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EMERGENCY POD - Kamara is BACK · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: hashtag no music no intro we are that the same spot party podcast come in at you brought to you present it by precious works LLC for any of your business website needs reach out to our guy but john he will hook you up and
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[SPEAKER_01]: And not expect to be back so soon, but I will say, and glad to be back right before my trip and glad this happened when I was in Florida and try to figure out, like, till this is like an actly and emergency pseudo-emerge, I've got Adam joined by my guy Wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan, whatever you want to call them, we have over the Saints and Brian capacity last six plus years, combines senior bulls, you name it, we covered it, are regarding it on the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you have not listened to our episode last night, we recorded episode last night of questions we were demanding answers to.
0:57
[SPEAKER_01]: for training camp and the question that you pose that we both had that we were at something either near you were going to say it last night is you wanted to know if album commander was going to be on the team.
1:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the question and it was too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a man answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You literally word for word said that you want to see the tweet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to see like, oh, we're going to get that tweet from underhill from Captain Trail saying, Alvin, come on, I was reworked his contract, modified his contract, blah, blah, and it was literally word for word word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's homework, not even a full day Lena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the mold watching?
1:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Is the mold the mold must be watching?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my mold must be watching, bro.
1:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's like, remember getting these and they can see this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, shit out of here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Adam about to go on vacating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, let's just, let's just, let's just just get them a little brain, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's perfect, too, because like, we'll record this cool, as soon as we're done recording this, I'm packing my camera up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be packed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's like the time in the time in his nice about work out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get into what the bigger picture of A.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: being back to means to me, just in toes, in terms of just the Saints for an office, so Bobford Diamond, Dynamics of it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But just from a football perspective and as a fan perspective, I would say that like shouldn't this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: be how it should be of a beloved, a beloved saint essentially potentially will get to retire his career with the saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you could also, we don't know the details aren't out of what the rework contract actually is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming it's some type of pay cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm assuming it's some type of pay cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, A.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: has been pretty staunch and saying that he wanted to play New Orleans in the world, and it just seems like sensor minds prevailed in this situation of how the outcome seems to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think ultimately, it just came down to
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[SPEAKER_00]: the real decision makers saying get it done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get it done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because it just made no sense from the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had never talked about a contract up into this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's never been no requests to album comparison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, take a big cut and because there's a lot of people out there that's like, oh, he finally
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he finally, you know, related, and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He finally came.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, no, no, he didn't, it's just been, like, just just been a standstill, just no real communication.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just been weird from this standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's communicated the same thing over and over, want to be into waters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's figure it out, like you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's spend his whole time, this has been a team, this has been weird, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm glad they just kind of got past it and just got it done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause, look man, I know like I see a lot of people I was like, you know, like, all the same, some things just can't move on, it probably doesn't pop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get it, like I, you know, I'm completely on board with like turning the page, moving on to younger players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I have a American still help your team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like now you're running back room looks like looks pretty damn like it's just a team standpoint you know you could do everything you feel you just feel much better by the way, compare that and for another and you know he is the same smudgeon man like you want to just be pushing guys out the door you don't have to you know
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he was sitting there like, if he was like, well, I'm not taking a pay cut and I refuse to blah blah blah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's completely different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you don't have to push a guy out, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he's not trying to be here, if he wants to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you hit it on the head so much because I was going to bring it up just some other art or mind is just very similar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That just from a football on the field standpoint, just the running back room and the depth just makes so much more sense of you have your RB1.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and Travis HN.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing I had kept saying in this office is when this new strike started to kind of percolate a bit, you're going to be on the team, what you're not going to be on team is like, if he's not on the team, that shit from
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[SPEAKER_01]: HN to then like and I'm not I'm not including country Miller in any equation regarding right back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not he's not in my mind at all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's also coming up like a torn ACL, but even if he wasn't he's still probably wouldn't be in my mind, but like that that
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a toddler, just like it, and for a team, if we're orphans, we're a head coach where I really think this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you are going to see, I don't know how's going to be an execution-wise, but you're going to see a very concerted effort from Kellen Moore to try to have a dominant run game.
6:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I did everything that's just aligned with it in terms of off-season moves, the signing of David Edwards, they draft it, Oscar Depp, they signed no offense to go more 13% know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This team wants to be able to run the ball because it was so atrocious at running the ball last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like a magic view.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks so much better like, okay, HN in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then if HN is a break, a cake can go in there like that that that downgrade to like Devon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say this though, A.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: did not have a good season last year at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's worth what I want to see and we'll see if he's in on the field on third downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That blitz pickup, that past blocking bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It got a better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It got to be better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It got to be better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It got to be better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How he won't be on a field on third down, you know, I mean, right, which what just to be his super power, which is insane, and he was the third dollar running back, you know, so he has to he has to change that and maybe that maybe that'll open up some just kind of different runs runs that to suit him more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: cutting in front of the line and he's just standing there, just to get blasted like, can we not do that, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like can we not, was the last, was the last great A.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Passplay, and I don't know because I know what we think of passing plays, we think of him early in his career in doing like angle routes, choice routes against linebackers and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you could argue that his last great pass play he made was against Cowboys in that screen pass that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it could could be, it was the middle writing back screen that he called and he hosted, you know, what it looked like all he came, looked like all he came right there, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the last great one, it did he have like a nasty trap, was that against a man?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were there, bro, it was, it was, it was, um, it was like a, it was like a,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a true name, no, it's a trick play and he just because like we were there and that that we were just like, brother don't what he Rupp it because that that was the shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who was the interim coach for like spent so much busy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a really air isn't a really
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just get to one of the chat real quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cole, our dude Cole said, AK having no ego in realizing HN as RB1 helps both the Saints and AK himself and being willing to work with the team shows how much he loves the team in the city.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
8:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You could look at the, okay, keep going.
8:57
[SPEAKER_01]: James said, will we ever hear process again?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that means we're gonna miss it something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the process, the process, the process, the process, the process, the process, the process, the process, the process, the process, the process, the process,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you know here it you hear it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's not going to be about AK anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right white well said AK lucky this was a resolution he was going to get that cam Jordan hate for me if he kept up with the land Maybe that comment you made about like just say like like you just like white quarterback maybe that actually applies a crisp Watch it any however what what were you to say about
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was just saying like if you'd look at like AK's usage over the years when they've been trying to use him as like this every down like middle, something running back is it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's it's falling off like his production has continued to fall off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying like he needs to be like just a pass down back only, but I just think you could find more creative ways to use them now and just kind of limit that just the beating he was taking, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he died of HBC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also there's the, you know, hopefully upgrade and of the run game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please just from a run block at standpoint with David Edwards, you know, with, you know, every people held them in the back, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, you know, banks in a second year, get some runs on his side because I just didn't see enough runs on bankside that shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was like, it was, it was, it was, it like all the runs went to the right side with Reeves, and then you had to give me
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when it would go to bank size of time, it would look great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he'd just be over there and I was like, Nate, never think he's like, come on, Kevin, come on, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris said, AK and HN and the backfill could be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's green game back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, when I went and watched a lot of HN from last season, just very impressive, impressive how good he was in just the passing game in general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the the point of having to running back some of this caliber is like there become interchangeable to degrees right like you put a k out there can be a run in the past a chance out there can be run in the past it just keeps the deep it keeps the defense honest which is what you want as an offensive play caller
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's what it became when Cameroon first got here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mark Anger really changed his game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It became a run game and passed down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why they were just killing teams like 2017, 2018.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you didn't know what was happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mark Anger in his early years, like, everybody knew, like, when you come on the field, the tail, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The tail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody running, running the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody running the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the Y receiver when the DA error that was out there for Miami and the Colts player?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's his name?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bernie's going up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not smoke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not smoke.
12:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not smoke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Colts is like five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Five out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not smoke one out of a marijuana in my life, but as much shit I've been forgetting these days, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, can someone in the chat please please help us out because it's got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, thank you Mark Lynn Lynn bought it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, completely going worth the.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That those seats have just been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Coles said they had Neil and Estimates run his sweeps and outsides stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or they did make that AK and it's golden.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were struggling to get to that outside, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, Neil, and Neil finally hit one to anything that's hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll find a season, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, some kind of burst, and it was gone, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Since we're talking about running back to him we're taking a break, we're going to come back.
13:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So I talked to the 14 concurrent viewers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this was just random.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We wanted to get it out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm literally packing tonight because of flights tomorrow, but because this is how LA X is and just where we live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: our flights like at 10 a.m. tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's like awful traffic time for LA and when we live, it just made more sense to us to get a room close to LA X tonight and not deal with shit tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, Cole said, Nill's court.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nill scored that sweep in the hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gave out a
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[SPEAKER_01]: factoring into this just running back room discussion, a non-factor burn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not going to see like like not a factor in the right he's in a mix, obviously, like he's in the mix, but it's like such an incredibly possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just can't trust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just can't trust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't not trust him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just can't trust him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to, I'm going to, this, this is all thought my head did not have this plan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you four players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to rank these four players in terms of who you trust the most for most the least.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kindre, Joanne, where we's called grandissa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For most the least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say to one, I say find number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my list as bad as a reason it's going to be on the field right like he is, but I can at least say that bro, that's the one thing I can't see how I like the drawing and creep one I struggle with because I like sometimes like I want to flip it, but like I
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, but yeah, I think that's, I think you could flip me the one that it was best, but they, that's very fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's very fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take our first break on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're with 60 minutes in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to come back after this, after we've had this break and talk about what this means from like the front office soap opera dynamics of everything with AK coming back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to come back after this is SPP doing an emergency podcast episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with AK coming back to the Saints on a modified we work contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna be back to right after this break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back before we kind of get into the
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[SPEAKER_01]: We lose what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so into it over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to pull the the the the the gift where the guy had to get brought back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we were going to move that all in the tweets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just mention our guy, Jo's, Jo Horn cell phone, Canadian nominated both you and I for the ALS Challenge Ice Bucket Challenge.
17:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, people may know, may not know, like ALS is like near and dear to my heart, like my mom had ALS in 2021 passed away from it very quickly at the end of 2021.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So ALS is very like just though like it's awful, awful, awful disease.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously it kind of came back up and got brewed up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with the Chris Johnson farmer titans running back diagnosis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we know the police in the story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we will be doing, we are both going to be doing the ALS ice bucket challenge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm trying to do it in Florida on the family vacation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll figure something
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a nice little Airbnb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, get it, get it shot in 4k and get it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a shot to our new Joe Joe horn cell phone, who nominated us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's a part of me because ALS is a very, very, very, very poorly funded endeavor like medically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does not get a lot of funding at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will do it because it's near and dear to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know when people are actually doing it, like how much money or is going to the ALS foundation for research and things like that.
18:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I also want to give a shout out to Blinking of this name, shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll come back to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You would think I'm a pothead as much that I've been forgetting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were like, working, kicking my ass, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, it's like in there and then it's gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but the curry Hammond said AK back who that baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just it just feels good man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just Man, your vibe's been a vacuously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So season where I will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We here, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a just a vibe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They make a little like this in all season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you now let you buff that up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think it's the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what would you have said at the time when they signed their car the vibes were?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're really good.
19:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was like the last good one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It went like to this point, but no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was like the vibes we got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got, you know, we got car, like, you know, which was, you know, it was a mixed, the mixed, you know, reaction to it because remember we were arguing like, hey man, like, car, all right, y'all, like, you all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: for the most negative, same spot, castable of time, you'd be surprised about positive, we actually are at Towsbrook.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to the 25 concurrent viewers on right now, we got 89 views.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do expect this episode to blow up later just because of the time and everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to talk about the front office dynamics of this move of AK being back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about it at linked just about the whole,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who versus who was this with in the front office dynamic?
20:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And this him being back signals Gilbinson again got what she wanted as the owner of your own list seat.
20:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So what I mean by that I said before in this podcast, Gilbinson absolutely loves a K loves him to death at the player, loves him at the person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what was happening these last couple of months?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not like sharing like hitting news or anything.
21:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about on the podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what's happening is you had Mickey Lomus, the GM, of the Saints wanting to get rid of A.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you saw it through the media.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was using Jeff Duncan.
21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like a little finger.
21:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Just putting out that agenda, putting out, and not to be like, like you've said.
21:33
[SPEAKER_01]: some of the things that Jeff Duncan article was like accurate in terms of his production and all whatever, right?
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's also other parts of it, that word, you knew who it was from, like you knew who it was coming from.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on man.
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He put out two AK articles this this all season.
21:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So Mickey Lomers was trying to get the buzz out there to get AK cut to kind of like loosen, you know, just make the blow a little and just it didn't land and ultimately Gelbinson got what she will and it just goes and this is the second time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also we each had also doing the fact that part of the reason that Mickey Lomers wanted AK to be gone from the team is he was still upset that AK spoke his mind about Dennis Allen and so just fucking insane.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is the second time in recent memory where Gilbinson won at something overmaking Lumus, the first being firing him Dennis Allen, and the second being A.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: coming back, where she, she doesn't throw her weight around a lot to be fair as an older.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She'd rarely does, but those are two recent times where she has gone her weight around and kind of put her foot down on decisions being made in the front office on airline.
22:45
[SPEAKER_00]: She put them low, look kitty hills,
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[SPEAKER_00]: my name back.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's the only bro like she could do it.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Ultimately, I think it seemed like almost like Bikki was trying to get him to...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, request a release of something like that.
23:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
23:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the nigga that like, want to break up with the girl, but like he don't want to be the bad guy.
23:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, he started doing shit.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe, I'll do this and she'll just be like, oh, this don't, like, this, that's exactly what he was doing, bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, like, any, and then they can't just show up on the bottle, everything, you know what I'm saying?
23:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was like, no, no, babe, let's go with vacation together.
23:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when you talk about breaking up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh god no way No way
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: that him just, him doing that really door refuge in their whole plans, in their whole plan.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Even that little Jeff Duck and articles like, well, you know, Kellan Moore, like the all the people have been here, like the attendance, and he's like, but like, let me talk, like he literally has been doing this since his like second season in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Under Sean Payton, who was like notorious for notorious for attendance.
24:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But if it's voluntary, it's voluntary.
24:04
[SPEAKER_00]: My only question is all the things like, what hit, where is killing story?
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying, like, that's a good one.
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think if killing, I got to think if killing was like banged a table, I want to keep back.
24:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he would have, you know, a great himself to quickly, but I don't think, I think he was more ambivalent.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was just like, I think that, yep, if he's back, he's back, if he's not, we'll be running.
24:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that checks out.
24:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me catch up on the chat really quick.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Cole said, Matt about Dennis Allen two years later when the vibes weigh up.
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't stand Loomis.
24:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all over.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Loomis.
24:38
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I don't want to hear it, but I don't kill it.
24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: No, by the sea.
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Loomis making a comeback.
24:42
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, even, like, there are times where I try to be neutral and give him benefit of the doubts and some of whatever.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But then, like, you just hear, like, he, like, this isn't like a still mad about, like, one, the fact that he was mad about AK for not just him.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: There's multiple people on the team at the time that felt that didn't sound like, the leaders of the team felt like he should leave.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, that was too fucking, like, two years ago.
25:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It literally was two years ago.
25:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're still holding this, like, this grudge.
25:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you should be like, thankful.
25:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, save my ass.
25:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you looked in the Kellon more TBD, but like he's a barricost in Dennis Island, like I know that much.
25:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You got Tyler Schock, who is on the upswing and may end up being like a franchise quarterback when he was still trying to hold on to Derek.
25:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's so many fucking, like he's been saved from him so by the grace of God and who knows what else so like in this span of like these last two years,
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's insane.
25:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he brings car back and the only reason car has to go is like he injures himself in the off-season Do you realize the Stoke this motherfucker has had a look it for a lucky man.
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness Bush boys, best boy Buku said how how many running backs is the team running with this season?
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good question
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That feels about right.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said last night, I do think they'll try to like squeeze, bearing in brown and like running back, while it's like just like a gadget plate.
26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, type of flex, you know, like a flex plate.
26:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That's something like that.
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you know, we've seen a guy's like, just to me, you know, you could get them on a practical squad.
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, and maybe they maybe, I mean, maybe they might call us some down if we don't have a line but I think you know, I think they'll play fast and lose with a practical squad.
26:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Coles said I still think Kellen is cool with having him, but doesn't care if he's gone.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That, right on.
27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Mark said, Mickey, the epitome of failing upwards.
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a white male in the U.S.
27:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be hairstyles.
27:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Too hard to hold.
27:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Too hard to hold.
27:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Too hard to hold.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Cole said it's so bad his recent roster building is on the come up, but everything else is awful awful Doc said so who's the odd man out in the running back to me?
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd probably say estimate it's just I don't know gun to head feels a little extreme, but like if you were just asking me right now I'd probably say estimate and like I don't know what to expect from tight Chandler
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Lily's just like, I don't know, Brock.
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It also see honestly, I think you hit on the head when we did the Q&A episode, like, I could just see Kendra being gone, Brock.
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, you said he get, he get a hammer, you're some shit in training camp.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Some shit, stop, miss some, you know, miss a preseason game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's just like, no, not worth that.
28:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's unfortunate because when he's on the field, he's fun to watch, man.
28:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He is.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: He is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: very unfortunate, an extremely frustrating player.
28:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take our last break of the episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back and wrap everything up, talking about Alba Khmer coming back to the things when all we work on track will be right back after this.
28:29
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else just in regards to the AK news, this is something that we, I kind of saw in our discord, is that people kind of know how
31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: been completed or what have you that now that Crystal Lobby contract extension is gonna be right around the corner.
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you agree with that?
31:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Just the optimist in me, I was saying, like, we're getting it next week.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Next week, we get that deal.
31:24
[SPEAKER_00]: That's top to decide.
31:25
[SPEAKER_00]: But the realist in me feels more like, I don't know, like, into all this,
31:34
[SPEAKER_01]: As involved as he has been this entire off season, if he's not extended, come to 28 when training camp starts for the Saints.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to be like, you see at training camp?
31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you expect him to be at training camp?
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect him to be, but I expect him to, I expect him to be weird.
31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just like, like, like a hold in.
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold in, you know, maybe miss a little day in there, you know, it'll just be weird.
32:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's why I hope they just get it done.
32:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Get it done.
32:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, next week before camp.
32:09
[SPEAKER_00]: The vibes are just you've had a must that would just put the bulldozer season bro.
32:14
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it would be the it.
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is like, one of the biggest hashtag on paper seasons.
32:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We, oh, ever.
32:25
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so much on paper.
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So much on paper.
32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But dreams of paper, dreams of paper.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: injury day you know the the acquisitions if we agency like you had Chuck Chuck put out the day you had to work out in San Diego Drew Breeze at the workouts working out with with Chuck and and taking pictures with the players and everybody was out there Tyson wasn't there.
32:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
32:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: But everybody was there, you know, Chris and Lovey was there.
33:02
[SPEAKER_00]: The tight ends were there.
33:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually dealt with your wine, running back just there, like man.
33:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tyler shook, like pay for all of it, right?
33:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he paid for the flights, hotels, meals, like 18 players, man.
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, like, it shocked.
33:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Tyler shook Rich, but he's still on like a little, what he did.
33:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I was like a rock, what he did?
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Like remember?
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the guarantee, you know what I'm like?
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It's guaranteed but still like it's not it's not a drop in the bucket.
33:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a drop in a bucket, man That's that's some little coin, but at the end of the day is just a good move, man You know, it's just a good move.
33:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a leadership move, man That part right there that part right there of what of what it's signal for because like you asked this and this is this is not trying to just be going back to the past But it's like what like did there?
33:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Card do any like the hero he did he arranged something and who all is what we're saying we're talking about now play right I attracted I look closely it did that happen
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I did because I remember joking that I believe James put something together and the plan is working out while that's right In court James put the workouts together.
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: We should we should have knew we should have known bro I saw really when that the work I was doing man, but though, right Right, I wonder did he get it ready and get it in favor.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: He don't eat no No, I got that in on the show
34:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I said the a lot of anything is art.
34:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Saints must have a concern we don't know about.
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it has anything to do with that.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I do, we've talked about the a lot of big contracts.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to talk like go much into it.
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's not like a typical, which is weird though, because Drake London is also missed.
34:47
[SPEAKER_01]: quite a few games in his career.
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just like, it's what the injuries are.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that is maybe, and I don't know this.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't want to come out and pronounce it like I know I'm just speculating that because of Chris O'Lave's injury history, the concussions, especially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Concussions and now a blood clot that he's coming out of off of,
35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: As a team, the guarantees is really going to be the crucial part of that contract.
35:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the less,
35:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Difficult when you have players like Drick London, Kyle Pitz, who just got extended, that's a kind of kind of cut and paste contract.
35:27
[SPEAKER_01]: This contract, it should be easy, but because Chris Alavey wanted to have the long term security, which he's earned at this point, and the Saints want to be able to have some type of protection in case there's it, he gets an injury, maybe his career's cut, whatever, that's why I feel like the delicate balance is,
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Lily, Mickey, Luma's like a couple months ago or a couple months ago was saying like how close they were and Mickey never fucking sounds like that, right?
35:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Like never just like that.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So like it's around the corner, but I could almost guess that those are where the the hold up it's going and I will say like the drink London contract extension like didn't help matters.
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like no no no no you wait to where's he gets.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're, I'm sure they're like, it's more like the APY stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they already did.
36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's coming down to, it's coming down to the protections because you gotta understand, like there's, there's guaranteed and then there's guaranteed for injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: teams really look at that guaranteed for injury because yes, guaranteed for injury means if you get a career ending injury you get this amount of money, you know what I'm saying, but so you're good like up.
36:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So if it's like $80 million or $100 million and he has a career in the injury like week two, that money is on the books, you know what I'm saying?
36:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: They have to like, figure that out and figure out all that's going to like, got this dog going to be something just some given take there, you know, I'm saying because he has a lot of questions in Ohio state is had a couple with the saints, you know, you're always one injury away.
37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It could bite up because it could be a knee injury or whatever, but man, that head injury is different.
37:18
[SPEAKER_01]: it is a little hilarious how and I'm not I'm not faulting them for like I get that like I get why they want to make sure this contract is right for the organization and for the team but it's like it's hilarious how Garrett Carr was coming off of injury and got 40 million guaranteed.
37:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Dessa and didn't even have a physical like come if you have a physical breath.
37:41
[SPEAKER_01]: 40 million guarantee me man just a Larry to allow me showing up at workouts
37:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's bad, man.
37:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is.
37:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we want to just come up here, knock this out, talk about the, about Abba Kumar are coming back with the same sort of we worked, modify contract, like, whipset, like, the vibes are immaculate right now.
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Immaculate right now.
38:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, don't let this thing like have a good training camp, like minor injuries, but nothing like major, they go, don't let this thing go in a week one in B.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the Lions decisively.
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't mean like, oh, they win with like a, you know, Charlie Smith, you know, last minute, last second field goal, like don't let them go out and be the last about like 10 to 14 points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell them more, I can't have more team.
38:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I've ever seen it, bro.
38:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We had like those, those are like the easiest one,
38:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Me, it was kind of close to that just game at half time, it was probably saved the giants.
38:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but even the Giants game a lot of that was the defense the defense rate, but like we just haven't seen like the orphans just Dominate I don't really had no point last year honestly, so the best I think the best liver of Potential with the offense, especially considering the talent that they had at the time and I and I know and I know I know there wasn't a good defense or whatever, but I would say it was a Titans game like that was the game works like okay
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what it could be in theory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not Dante Pettis.
39:29
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a crazy game.
39:31
[SPEAKER_01]: The most the most saints play in Everbrook like that.
39:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
39:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to go watch it.
39:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Just to have a lap.
39:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it was nuts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate y'all for joining us for this emergency podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens while I'm in Florida from tomorrow through Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if the Chris O'Lave contract extension drops or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to check, see where we are right now, in terms of people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We 48 woof, as of this morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think when I counted this morning, it was up to 20-ish tickets, which means we were rolling like 20-beat to the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The vibes are great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The vibe are immaculate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully they continue that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The week before training camp to talk about the Saints is always appreciate y'all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love y'all with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.