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Leon Black Storms Out Of His Epstein Related Congressional Interview (6/29/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. On Friday, the twenty sixth of June, Leon
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Black appeared before the Congressional committee overseeing the investigation into
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Jeffrey Epstein, and in the middle of that hearing, Leon
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Black ended up getting up and walking out when he
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found out that he was going to be hit with
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a subpoena to be under oath instead of just giving testimony.
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And according to sources, this all went down in the
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middle of the hearing. So Leon Black was being asked
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questions about NDAs and he didn't want to answer them,
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so in the middle of the hearing, according to sources,
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we weren't there obviously, but according to sources, Leon Black
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and his legal team decided enough was enough. And I
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think it really goes to the heart of what we've
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been talking about. Right, this committee has no teeth. If
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a guy like Leon Black can get up and walk
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out in the middle of a congressional hearing, does that
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signal to you that it's serious, that there's consequences if
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you lie, if you don't tell the truth. Because from
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more I'm sitting it does the opposite, and it just
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confirms everything I've been saying about this committee since the beginning,
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and this is why this voluntary nonsense is a bunch
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of bs. Everybody should be subpoena, everybody should be under oath.
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And if they don't respond to the subpoena they don't
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show up, well, guess what, they go to jail. We
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had no problem sending people to jail for not showing
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up for subpoenas previously, right, So what's the problem here?
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Why is this committee doing everything it can to continue
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to protect Jeffrey Epstein's friends. Today's article is from the
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New York Post and the headline House Committee subpoena is
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Leon Black midway through the Jeffrey Epstein testimony. And look,
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there's no doubt that that's a bit odd. That's not
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something you see all the time. So on giving testimony
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and then getting subpoena in the middle of that testimony
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by the same people that we are giving the testimony to,
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not exactly confidence inducing that Leon Black is telling the truth?
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Is it? This article was authored by Josh Christiansen and
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James Frainey. Billionaire investor Leon Black was hit with a
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subpoena from the House Oversight Committee midway through testimony on
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his relationship with late finance here and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
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The move came after Black, the co founder of Apollo
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Global Management, refused to answer lawmaker's questions about whether there
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are any non disclosure deals between him and women connected
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to Epstein. Lawmakers said, now, why wouldn't he answer that.
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with incriminating himself, right,
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Leon Black has paid close to two hundred million dollars
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when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, not to Jeffrey Epstein himself,
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but two hundred dollars in total, when we're talking about fines,
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when we're talking about settlements and NDAs. Does that sound
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like a man who's innocent, who didn't do any of
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this stuff, who wasn't around Epstein, who knows nothing, who
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gets up and walks out of a congressional testimony. I'll
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tell you who. Somebody that is scared shitless of telling
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the truth, that's who. And maybe, just maybe, if James
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Comer and his buddies would have went and sat down
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with Les Wexner, they would have come to the same conclusion.
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But they couldn't be bothered to do that. Black's now
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set to come back to Congress for videotape testimony under
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oath on July sixteenth, per one of the subpoenas. The
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other one demands the NDAs. Look, Leon Black stepped in it.
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This dude directly stepped in it. Now, do I think
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he's going to be held accountable? I don't. They're never
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held accountable. What would make this different? I mean, maybe
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that there's a little more publicity and people are paying attention,
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But besides that, I don't think anybody in Congress really cares.
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And I think that the litmus test is going to
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be after midterms. If people keep talking about the subject,
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the topic cool, but after the elections might yes, is
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all these people who have been riding the wave, trying
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to use this politically against their enemies, et cetera, et cetera.
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Those people, they're gonna fade into the background and they're
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gonna start talking about all the other shit they were
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talking about previously, and then whatever becomes profitable they'll jump
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on that. And that's the same cycle we've seen over
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and over when it comes to the Epstein story. People
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aren't built for the long haul. People don't have the
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patience people don't have the willpower to see it all
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the way through. And I get that there's a lot
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going on in the world. I completely understand, But for
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me personally, there's no issue bigger than this one. And
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that's why we're going to continue to harp on it
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no matter what. I don't care if we have a
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million listeners or five. The importance doesn't change because interest
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is fading away. So we're going to really see who's
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about it after this election cycle. And I want you
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to pay attention to the people that use this as
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vehicle to get where they're going, and then after they
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get to their destination, they abandoned the topic because believe
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me when I tell you it's coming. We need the
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NDAs to be able to move forward with the Investigation
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Oversight Committee. James Comer Toll reporters mentioning that they concerned
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women possibly in Epstein's orbit, not possibly for sure, Like
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this isn't new to us, and it shouldn't be new
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to Congress either, And I think that's one of the
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biggest problems that people have. If all of us knew
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about this for all these years, how did all of
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these folks miss it? Or was it that they knew
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and they just look the other way. I know that's uncomfortable,
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but a lot of these people that are in office,
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they don't have any tenable ground to stand on. They
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knew what was going on. We want to know was
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Jeffrey Epstein involved in the NDAs, was he involved in
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writing was he involved in awarding funds to the women
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for the NDAs? What was the reason for the NDA.
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We want to know everything about the NDAs, added Comer.
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And look, that's well within Congress's purview. And if the
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DOJ ever files charges against Leon Black, those NDAs go
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out the window. Criminal court is where NDA is going
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to die. And we saw it with Diddy, we saw
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it with Epstein several times, and will continue to see it.
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The NDA has no bearing when it becomes a criminal case.
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The investor earlier told the committee in a closed door
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deposition that he played no part in Epstein's sex trafficking scheme.
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A lawyer for Black voiced outrage over the subpoenas well.
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Of course, that's the last thing I want to do,
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be under oath, have to tell the truth God forbid,
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and why a guy like Leon Black was given the
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option to appear voluntarily is a mystery for the ages.
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Every single person that was even considered a co conspirator
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at some point, they should not be given voluntary interviews.
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They should be under oath and forced to tell the truth,
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and if they don't, there should be serious consequences. Mister
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Black came here voluntarily to assist the committee. This was
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nothing more than a planned political stunt. Mister Epstein had
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no involvement with any NDAs, whether they exist or not.
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Attorney Susan Estrich said in a statement, let me reiterate,
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the committee did not ask a single question about the
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legitimate payments to at Epstein for a professional services on
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tax and estate matters. Let me reiterate. Your client isn't
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there to set the terms. Your client's there to answer questions.
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And if you guys don't like that, nobody gives a
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fuck anymore. I'm so sick of these ultra rich people
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thinking they can do whatever they want and then people
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showing up and acting like, yeah, you know, he's being
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unfairly targeted. No he's not. No, he's fucking not. The
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guy's an absolute liar. And it's my opinion that if
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a competent prosecution took over, and they looked into Leon Black,
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and they looked into his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. They'd
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come to find that there was a lot of money
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laundering going on. But I guess we're not going to
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follow the money trail, right, not salacious enough, A bunch
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of clowns. One of Epstein's biggest clients. Black told the
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committee he had been deceived by a man he hired
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for tax advice. Imagine hiring Epstein for tax advice? What
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is the H and R fucking block? Yeah, I'm Jackson
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hewit over here. What does Jeffrey Epstein know about taxes
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besides how to hide money and launder it? Oh, that's right. Nothing.
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But let me give him hundreds of millions of dollars.
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And for my next trick, I'm gonna pay a mechanic
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five hundred million to cook me food. I've never abused
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old woman, he said. I have never been with an
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underage woman. I've never engaged in sex trafficking. Black also
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denied paying Epstein for access to women, insisting he had
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never been blackmailed. Well, I thought Jeffrey Epstein was the
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greatest black mela in the world, and that's how he
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got Les Wexner and Bill Gay to get on board,
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or maybe hear me out. They didn't need any convincing
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you ever think about that. I was not involved with
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and had no knowledge of, any of Epstein's he and
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his conduct, he said. The seventy four year old, worth
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an estimated thirteen and a half billion, according to Forbes,
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paid Epstein one hundred and fifty eight million over five
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years for his state and tax planning thirty million a year.
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Bro was making more than Jalen Brunson. Okay, think about that.
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So do you think that Jeffrey Epstein's advice about taxes
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was worth that kind of money? Worth more than Jalen
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Brunson's contract. I'm not buying it now. If you want
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to believe it and you want to buy it, I
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really don't care. I don't care what anybody else thinks,
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what anybody else does, what anybody else says. He told
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the committee that he thought he was paying far less.
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Drafted testimony claimed that Epstein falsely promised the fees were
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tax deductible or sixty cents on the dollar. Oh yeah,
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I'm sure he promised that. Easy to blame everything on him, right,
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Epstein's gone. Nobody can say, oh, well, that's a lie.
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What Black believed was ninety five million in net fees
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turned out to be one hundred and fifty eight million,
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he said, while admitting that the late pedophile solved the
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massive estate problem that lawyers could not. Yeah, I'm sure
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he did illegally backdoor channels, doing things he shouldn't do.
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By the way, Leon Black, have you declared your art?
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How much of that art have you declared? How much
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of it's taxable? Where's it dashed? Do you have it
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hidden overseas? How many accounts do you have? We can
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go all day. The problem is the committee doesn't have
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the stones. He fired the finance here in twenty eighteen
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after a dispute over fees and unpaid thirty million dollar loan.
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Black stepped down as Apollo's chief executive in twenty twenty one.
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The company is now led by Mark Rowan. Black's testimony
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cited a review by the law firm Deckert, which found
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that he paid Epstein the mass of some but uncovered
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no evidence he took part in any crimes. Oh of
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course not. But it was bad enough. He had to
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step down right, forced out by Josh Harris forced out
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by Mark Rowan, But sure, nothing to see here. Keep
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in mind that Leon Black's son is part of the
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Trump administration. Black said that Deckert examined sixty thousand documents
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and interviewed twenty people over three months. He called himself
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the only public figure in Epstein's orbit took commission an
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independent investigation and make the results public. Ah, yeah, independent investigation?
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Is it? You mean? Internal investigation? Stupid? The Wall Street
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big wigs said that he met Epstein in the mid
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nineties and gave him a second chance after his two
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thousand and eight conviction force solicit a minor. These people
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are so fucking dumb that it's not funny. And furthermore,
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Alan Dershowitz and his big fucking mouth running around yapping
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all the time about how he doesn't have anything to
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do with anything. Yeah you do, bitch, Yeah you do.
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What's up with the NPA? How many backroom deals were
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made to have that happen? How deeply were you involved?
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How many times did you do the end around the
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local southern district of Florida to go to Maine justice?
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Stop the bullshit. The whole entire point of that first
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prosecution was so we'd be here now, so later on
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down the road these idiots could point to that prosecution
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and say, oh, we had no idea. We thought it
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was a girl with a fake ID. She was seventeen.
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Fuck you, fuck them, and fuck that narrative. He said.
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Epstein told him the case was an isolated incident involving
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a fake ID. I knew, jack O Black said, I
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didn't know Hyde. Oh no, sure you didn't. Just had
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him involved in calling the FSB to press Zelgonieva, but
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no big deal. I had no idea who he was.
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He said. He didn't learn of Epstein's sex trafficking of
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miners until the financier was charged for the crime in
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July of twenty nineteen. The Justice Department alleged to Epstein
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created a vast network of girls, some as young as fourteen,
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for him to sexually abuse between two thousand and two
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and two thousand and five FBI files released by the
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Trump administration. Released by the Trump Administration, Kicking and Screaming
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is the author for real here. I'm getting sick of
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this shit too. And if you haven't noticed, like Circe Lanister,
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I woke up today and I chose verbal violence I've
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had enough, enough of the gas lighting and enough of
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the bullshit. One Epstein victim told agents in twenty nineteen
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that Epstein directed her to give massages to Black and others,
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but New York prosecutors examined the claim and ever charged them. Yeah,
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the whole idea was to control the blast area, just
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like I told you. Black devoted much of his Friday
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statement to three civil suits brought by the whig Door
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law firm, calling them baseless and fabricated. The first two
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were dismissed with prejudice. In the third, the ex Apollo
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CEO said, a federal judge issued a seventy six page
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ruling last month sanctioning the plaintiff, her lawyer, and the
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firm for submitting false evidence. He said that the plaintiff
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testified she bore four of Epstein's children, three of them
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kidnapped at birth. As a result of this torrent of
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lies and misrepresentations, I've received death threats and my family
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now feels unsafe. For the first time in my life,
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I've had to deploy a body guard. Black said, according
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to the prepared remarks, these people are all the victims. Now.
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The whole idea what they're trying to do here is
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throw a lid on the conversation. They don't want you
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talking about Leon Black, they don't want you talking about
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Les Wexner. For the first time ever, these dudes are
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in the spotlight and guess what. Welcome to the show.
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Before the session began, Comer told reporters he believed it
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might be the most groundbreaking hearing yet in the committee's
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nearly year old Epstein probe. What stop it, Give me
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a break, James Comer, Okay, this could be a pretty
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significant deposition as we try to get answers, he said.
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The committee is investigating how the federal government handled Epstein
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and his associate, Glenn Maxwell, the socialized daughter of a
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British newspaper tycoon. Epstein died by suicide allegedly in August
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twenty nineteen while awaiting trial. I'm glad the author is
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so confident in that well, he died by suicide. The
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government told me so, and it was backed up by
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Nicholas Tartaglioni. The panel previously interviewed former President Bill Clinton
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and billionaire Bill Gates, who both denied wrongdoing. Black and
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his family on about fourteen percent of Apollo Representative Robert Garcia,
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the top Democrat on the Oversight Committee, support of subpoenaing Black.
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There are numerous allegations of real abuse by women by
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survivors against mister Black. Garcia said, we understand that mister
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Black may also be connected and had a relationship with
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President Trump. Always President Trump thrown in, and that of
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course causes more division, Like we get it. Okay, Trump
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is overseeing this cover up. But if you try to
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connect every single piece and thread directly back to Trump,
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this is gonna fail. Trump certainly played his part here
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with a cover up and certainly had a relationship with
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Epstein in the past. But the whole story isn't about Trump,
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and the more people like Garcia try to make it
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all about Trump and not about the overall empire. Notice
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he doesn't talk Rico. Notice he doesn't talk the NPA.
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Notice he doesn't talk holding people accountable from the first negotiation. No,
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what does he do? Sam old shit? So I told
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you from the beginning about Garcia and the thoughts I
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had about him, and how I didn't think he was
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being honest, and I feel the same way now, In fact,
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worse him and comer two peas in a pot and
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this committee absolute joke. All the information that goes with
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