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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, February 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you Jack Wars Jaguars Time steps Actually Jaguars
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Speaker 1: starts right now. Good morning, Welcome in Jaguars Drive Time Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: brought to you by the Jet Home Loans. Were back
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Speaker 1: on our normal off season day Tuesday mornings. But he
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Speaker 1: wants to talk about this week. Trevor Lawrence's pro day
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Speaker 1: is complete. Reports that he is getting surgery this morning
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Speaker 1: on that non throwing shoulder. We have a coaching staff finally,
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Speaker 1: so many weeks of talking about when this is going
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Speaker 1: to happen, it has happened, and it is a large
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Speaker 1: staff with all kinds of things to talk about. And
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Speaker 1: we start this morning with somewhat of breaking news. Brian.
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Speaker 1: I know that you're not the biggest social media guy,
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Speaker 1: but the Jaguars have tweeted out that they are trying
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Speaker 1: to make teal their primary color. If they get twenty
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Speaker 1: one thousand re tweets on a tweet, now, I am
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Speaker 1: team Teal. Are you well? Go ahead and retweet for
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Speaker 1: me if you know however it is when you say
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Speaker 1: they're trying, I'm sure they'll get that done. I mean
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Speaker 1: the reaction to Teal jerseys and the Teal out and
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Speaker 1: I found it to be favorable from people that I
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Speaker 1: talked to. Talking, by the way, is the the old
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Speaker 1: fashioned way of communicating. Um. I love the teal Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know. I go back to July with his franchise,
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Speaker 1: and teal was the primary color. It evolved in the
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Speaker 1: early part of the two thousands where black became a
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Speaker 1: third color and then primary color. And but teal is
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Speaker 1: is the Jaguars identity. It's what sets it apart. Uh,
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Speaker 1: And I feel a special warmth. Let's say, when I
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Speaker 1: see the teal uniforms, and um so I'm excited that
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Speaker 1: teal is coming back. That's awesome news. All right, well
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Speaker 1: you're for it. I don't know if you're always okay
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Speaker 1: with change? Are you okay with this? They push this?
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Speaker 1: Are you well? Change is evil? Schlnn. That's one of
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Speaker 1: my mantras. But it's uh, you know, and unlike Brian,
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Speaker 1: I don't like to talk to people. People are evil.
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Speaker 1: Um So social media and texting is fine by me.
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Speaker 1: I will say this whatever number of tweets. If they
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Speaker 1: don't get it, then all the ninety thousand people who
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Speaker 1: email who email me about this topic every week should
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Speaker 1: get on social media and do it because you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I think this will be overwhelmingly welcomed. I
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Speaker 1: don't passionately care about a team color. It's just not
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Speaker 1: my thing. But Jaguars fans who I interact with all
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Speaker 1: the time via text, not talking, love the Teal, so
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Speaker 1: good for them. I think it will bring in energy.
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Speaker 1: I think people be excited about it, and for that purposes,
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Speaker 1: I am texting Team Teal alright. I just I want
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Speaker 1: to remind people who may not even know, but back
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Speaker 1: in the original days, as we were out promoting the franchise,
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Speaker 1: before they were players, even it was the Jaguars color
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Speaker 1: scheme was teal black and gold, right, teal black and gold.
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Speaker 1: I know gold has been diminished in the color scheme
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Speaker 1: um and after those hideous color Rush uniforms, thankfully those
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Speaker 1: are long gone. But always the best. Oh God, no,
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Speaker 1: please no, but it's good. It's good to know that
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Speaker 1: Teal is coming back. It's a distinct color, it's the
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Speaker 1: personality of the franchise. And I think the city is
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Speaker 1: better for having teal uniforms for their football team than
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Speaker 1: than the black uniforms. Absolutely, that is the good news
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Speaker 1: of the morning. Make it happen at Twitter. Spear Jaguars fans.
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Speaker 1: Let's get two big things. Big thing one is Lawrenceville.
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Speaker 1: The biggest question for Trevor Lawrence's pro day is why
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Speaker 1: did you have a pro day with plenty of college film.
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Speaker 1: You're a starter for three years, You've won national championships.
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Speaker 1: Why did you feel the need to do this? And
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Speaker 1: he says, well, I wanted to be like everyone else.
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be like everybody else, you know,
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Speaker 1: go through this process the right way. And it felt
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Speaker 1: like this is important for me to do, give all
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Speaker 1: the teams a chance to see me throw, and something
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Speaker 1: that you know, growing up you kind of dream about
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Speaker 1: having your pro day and everything is going normal. Then,
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Speaker 1: like I said, over their life happened sometimes and things
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Speaker 1: get switched up. So just showing that I can adapt
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Speaker 1: and adjust, prepare short notice, um, and still, you know,
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Speaker 1: put on a pretty good day, you know, obviously, and
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Speaker 1: how these things go. You wish you had a few
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Speaker 1: throwers back, but overall, um, I thought it was a
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Speaker 1: good day. But yeah, I just wanted to do the
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Speaker 1: process the right way, and I thought that was important
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Speaker 1: for us to still throw and to do that. Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence getting a pro day done before sold shoulder surgery,
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Speaker 1: and this morning reportedly Big Thing Too is best of
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Speaker 1: the best we've heard coach Meyers say that about what
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Speaker 1: he wants his coaching staff to look like. Well, we
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Speaker 1: know one thing, it's a very large coaching staff, assistance
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Speaker 1: on assistance. So now the question is, Coach Meyer, what
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Speaker 1: do you want this offense to look like? Oh? That's
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Speaker 1: all I think about seven and uh, this is a
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Speaker 1: this is a transformatal decision for the Jaguars. This is
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Speaker 1: we all know that it's a quarterback sport and obviously
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but it's also when I was talking,
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Speaker 1: we our offense line is pretty good. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: not blow up offensive line. You know, we've got some
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Speaker 1: other areas we've gotta fix. So I have a a
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Speaker 1: vision of what it looks like. Coach Schottenheimer and Bebo,
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Speaker 1: we've had those conversations. But it's gonna be built around
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Speaker 1: what we have and there's some good pieces there, but
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Speaker 1: we've got to make it even better. Alrighty, So we
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Speaker 1: talked offense, Now let's talk defense. Big Thing three is
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Speaker 1: scheme and we tried we try to get new defensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator Joe Collins to commit to a three four and
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Speaker 1: a four three, and he just wouldn'tvite. He wouldn't do it.
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Speaker 1: He says, the man's got options. Well, we're still evaluating,
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Speaker 1: you know, our current roster. And you know I've been
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Speaker 1: involved with in fourteen years, eight years and a four
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Speaker 1: three scheme when we were multiple, in six years in
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Speaker 1: a three four scheme when we were multiple, and it's
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Speaker 1: all tailored to the personnel that you have. And I
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Speaker 1: think in both schemes, you know you have flexibility to
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Speaker 1: do both. I think, like anything, you just you keep
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Speaker 1: improving every day. You know, as a defense, you know
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Speaker 1: you want to you want to be an attacking defense.
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Speaker 1: You want to be the one that starts with you've
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Speaker 1: got to stop the run. A lot of people say
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Speaker 1: it's a throwing league, but you know, if it's it's
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Speaker 1: second and three and third and one all day, you're
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Speaker 1: not gonna have an opportunity to get after the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: But I just think as as the Jaguars move forward,
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Speaker 1: we just continue to get better and keep doing things
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Speaker 1: where you know what, we're a defense that will not
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Speaker 1: only stop the run, but get after the quarterback. Lots
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Speaker 1: of time to figure out what you want to run
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Speaker 1: it's only February, but we definitely would have liked to answer,
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Speaker 1: but we'll have much more opportunities to talk with defensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator Joe Collin as we go back up to a
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Speaker 1: big thing one which was Lawrence, Pille and John and
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Speaker 1: I for one thought it was interesting when I saw
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Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence was going to move up his pro
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Speaker 1: day and throw a for this shoulder surgery. But after
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Speaker 1: watching that pro day, there was more so of a
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Speaker 1: respect for this because he only had two weeks to
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Speaker 1: get this ready, whereas normally prospects have seven or more
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Speaker 1: weeks to prepare for a pro day, and definitely showed
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Speaker 1: the confidence that he has in himself that he can
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Speaker 1: pull this together in short notice and and still make
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Speaker 1: it happen. Well. This is the pro day NFL equivalent
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Speaker 1: of like your mom coming in and saying, hey, Slane's
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Speaker 1: time to get up and go to school and running
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Speaker 1: out the door with no shower, no lunch, grabbing the bus.
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Speaker 1: I know you didn't drive the bush lane, you were
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Speaker 1: Showford to school, but this is the NFL equivalent of that.
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Speaker 1: Very little preparation for Trevor Lawrence for this, in comparison
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Speaker 1: to most quarterbacks. He had a couple of weeks he
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Speaker 1: was throwing. He wasn't as buff as he usually is.
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Speaker 1: It looks like he's lost a little bit of weight
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Speaker 1: because he hasn't been able to lift this. That's speculating,
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Speaker 1: but there really was a whole lot of preparation. It
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Speaker 1: didn't feel as maybe I know it was scripted, but
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Speaker 1: he didn't have a chance to go out and rehearse
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Speaker 1: all this. He doesn't have to. When Urban talked to
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Speaker 1: him and said, hey, it's not a bad idea to throw,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Trevor was like, yeah, why not, let's throw.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's ball, right. So I think that's the
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Speaker 1: attitude that urban Meyer was looking for. It seems like
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Speaker 1: he got it. Uh you know it's he checks every box,
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Speaker 1: even the roll out of bed and go throw on
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Speaker 1: five minutes. Notice spots. He just radiates maturity. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he just you listen to him, you watch him, you
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Speaker 1: read the stories about how he interacted with the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: and with the other teams that were there. He gets it.
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Speaker 1: He just understands this game. And you know, why shouldn't
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Speaker 1: he be. He's been one of the top, you know, upcoming,
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Speaker 1: promising prospects at the most important position since he was
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Speaker 1: at Cartersville High School. So the kid gets it. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, but all I could
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Speaker 1: do with breathe a sigh of relief watching that last week.
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Speaker 1: Thank god the Aguars did not win some meaningless game
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Speaker 1: at the end of the year and give it back.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine being somebody from the Jets watching that
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Speaker 1: Jets fan or their front office watching that, going we
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Speaker 1: let this guy go for two wins that no one
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Speaker 1: will ever remember other than for having blown the chance
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Speaker 1: to have this guy. I mean, thank goodness that this
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Speaker 1: kid is the Jaguars and not going to the Jets. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I for one got excited after that that throw you
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Speaker 1: just watched on Jaguars dot com, the very last throw
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Speaker 1: of his pro day, which was a busted play that
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Speaker 1: he just chucked down the field and made it happen.
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Speaker 1: And yes, Brian, I'm with you. I remember back in
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Speaker 1: probably early December when it was win now and make
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Speaker 1: it happen. I'm okay with that. And I saw a
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Speaker 1: lot of Jets fans that were particularly unhappy on social media.
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Speaker 1: But John, the funniest thing of the day was the
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Speaker 1: broadcast of NFL Network and a CC network, and they
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Speaker 1: kept saying, look at Urban Meyer right there, he's so
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Speaker 1: close to Trevor Warren's look at him being so close
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Speaker 1: and talking to Dabbo. Wow, that's awesome. I think he
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Speaker 1: really likes them. It's like, yeah, I think there's a
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Speaker 1: reason that he's standing so close, and I'm okay with it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think he does like him. And I actually got
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Speaker 1: a couple of questions from people saying it looked like
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Speaker 1: Urban was talking more to Dabbo than he was watching Trevor. Well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, I don't care about that, and there's
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Speaker 1: plenty of tape to go back and watch. Urban went
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Speaker 1: up there. He has seen plenty of Trevor Lawrence. I
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Speaker 1: think he wanted to make sure that Trevor could perform
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Speaker 1: in this kind of a situation under a little bit
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Speaker 1: of pressure, so he got a little bit closer to him,
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Speaker 1: you know. And you know what, if I'm Urban and
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Speaker 1: the kid's head coach, who has been around him for
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Speaker 1: three years is standing right there, I'm gonna milk him
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Speaker 1: for as much information as I can during that time
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Speaker 1: and I try to get a fuel for him. So
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Speaker 1: absolutely he should have been out there talking to Swanny
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Speaker 1: and uh, that's all I had ghost Hey he was
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Speaker 1: he was planting the flag, right, he was claiming the
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Speaker 1: territory for his franchise, and he was probably turning and
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Speaker 1: we couldn't see it. But if it had been me, right,
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Speaker 1: and and since Jalen Ramsey was here, I've embraced the
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Speaker 1: petty um turning and smirking in the direction of the
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Speaker 1: other teams, like, I hope you guys are enjoying this.
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Speaker 1: You're going to see it in til on Sunday afternoons,
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Speaker 1: very very soon until I like, it's all right, let's
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Speaker 1: go to big Thing three, which is all about defense
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Speaker 1: and trying to figure out what scheme the Jaguars are
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Speaker 1: going to run this year. But Brian, he said that
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Speaker 1: he has options. There's ways that you can work this
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Speaker 1: either way. But as much as we wanted to answer,
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Speaker 1: I get where he's coming from. We don't know what
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Speaker 1: this personnel is going to look like. Eleven draft picks,
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Speaker 1: especially on the defensive line, You've so many questions of
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Speaker 1: what that'll be in. So it sounds like we're enough
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Speaker 1: to stay patient and that's okay. Well, a couple of
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Speaker 1: thoughts and again, you know, my history with the three
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Speaker 1: or four goes back to the Blitzburg days in Pittsburgh,
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Speaker 1: and and they had specific requirements for their defensive lineman,
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Speaker 1: right that nose tackle had to be immovable. And if
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Speaker 1: you're Joe Colin and you're looking at the stable of
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Speaker 1: guys you've got, do you have that immovable guy in
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Speaker 1: the middle, who's gonna line up on the nose. The
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Speaker 1: defensive ends didn't have to be pass rushers. They had
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Speaker 1: to be like big defensive tackles, maybe a little more
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Speaker 1: athletic because they were at the edge rushers. Those guys
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Speaker 1: were linebackers in the three four. Now he's got those blindbackers.
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Speaker 1: It appears with Caleb and Chase on Um and Josh Allen.
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Speaker 1: So he's got to be able to look and see
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Speaker 1: and and I think, and we talked about this on
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Speaker 1: our Jaguars Reporters podcast, and John alluded to the fact
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Speaker 1: neither Miles Jack nor Joe Schobert looked like that traditional
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Speaker 1: inside linebacker, that sturdy, two forty pound guy that can
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Speaker 1: step up into the gap and take on a guard. Um.
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Speaker 1: They may need to find one or two. They may
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Speaker 1: need to figure out how they're gonna work those guys around.
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Speaker 1: So if I'm Joe, I wouldn't commit to it either.
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Speaker 1: And let's face it, and everybody knows this, that just
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Speaker 1: on the the alignment of different linebackers and the personnel group,
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Speaker 1: how many defensive linemen you have in there, you can
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Speaker 1: play this hybrid scheme to make an offensive coordinator guess
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Speaker 1: he wants. But he said, and we should believe him,
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Speaker 1: it's about the personnel you have, and you have a
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Speaker 1: chance to build that personnel over seventy three million dollars
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Speaker 1: Twitter thing going on. Making teal the primary color needs
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Speaker 1: twenty one thousand retweets to make it happen. It's going
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Speaker 1: up before our eyes four thousand nine. Do your part,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars fans, if you want to be come on to you.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to you. We're hyped up this morning. Big
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Speaker 1: deal changes in the air. We love it. Let's go
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Speaker 1: to his own snapshot A man that loves change out
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Speaker 1: friendly more changed gott All right, here we go. Let's
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Speaker 1: go to sparks our guy, Bradley. An average fan can
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Speaker 1: see Trevor Lawrence is perhaps the top quarterback prospect of
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Speaker 1: all time when it comes to physical traits. Do you
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Speaker 1: and the other experts see any big question mark? And
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Speaker 1: these in tangible categories? Naturally, let's find something wrong with
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Speaker 1: this guy. Well, first of all, I'm no expert, but
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Speaker 1: I talked to people who I believe are and that's
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Speaker 1: what you're sort of looking for when you ask people
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Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence, because everything else about him is as
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Speaker 1: crystal clear clean as a prospect can be. He looks
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Speaker 1: the part throwing motion, everything's perfect. Does he have all
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Speaker 1: the off field stuff? That's the one question I have
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Speaker 1: in terms of ability to read defenses at the line
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I've said it before, you know. That's what
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Speaker 1: caused me to believe that Andrew luck was going to
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Speaker 1: be a knockdown all pro quarterback from very early on,
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Speaker 1: and I think he was. Does Trevor have that? Probably
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Speaker 1: didn't show it at Clemson, but everybody you talked to
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Speaker 1: said he is incredibly intelligent football wise, has the ability
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Speaker 1: to do that in the NFL. Is a study er,
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Speaker 1: is a in first, leave last guy. He's a what
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Speaker 1: you see is what you get. He understands well in
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Speaker 1: advance what is required of him. Uh, everything you hear
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Speaker 1: is that the off field stuff, every intangible that the
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Speaker 1: questionnaire listed is there. If that's all there, and if
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Speaker 1: that's real, then no way does he miss because physically
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Speaker 1: he's everything. The only thing that would make him miss
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Speaker 1: is if something's missing off the field. So look, I'm
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Speaker 1: not an expert either, but I talked to experts, you know,
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Speaker 1: coaches and scouts, and the people that I know who
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Speaker 1: have evaluated him say that, you know, perhaps the only
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Speaker 1: thing physically that you that you're going to really work
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Speaker 1: on is that he tends to be a bit long
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Speaker 1: in the pocket. He's six six um, and at Clemson
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Speaker 1: it was easier for the pocket to maintain its integrity
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Speaker 1: and for him to be able to use, you know,
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Speaker 1: his length to drive the ball. May have to change
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Speaker 1: that because obviously in the NFL, the pass rush, he's
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Speaker 1: a bit more intense off the field. The guy has
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Speaker 1: everything you could possibly want. Um, I've said it before,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think he looks like Peyton Manning to
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Speaker 1: me on the field and Tim Tebow off of it.
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Speaker 1: I know that's lofty praise, but the kid has leadership
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Speaker 1: qualities that he just he's radiates and you know the
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Speaker 1: way that he interacts with the coaches and the teammates
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Speaker 1: around him. But more than that, you watch the way
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Speaker 1: that his teammates radiated to him and reacted to him.
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Speaker 1: No way. I mean, this guy has got every single
19:29
Speaker 1: thing you could want. I'm interested in leadership for a
19:32
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. I study it. He's got it, and
19:35
Speaker 1: there's that quality that you just can't, you know, put
19:37
Speaker 1: your finger on. Graduated, getting married, mature, beyond it, understands
19:42
Speaker 1: the business side of it, wants to be great. Check yes,
19:46
Speaker 1: check the box. I saw on social media that after
19:49
Speaker 1: his pro day he went and spoke to every single
19:52
Speaker 1: staff member, janitor, anyone that had anything to do with
19:55
Speaker 1: his pro day. He went and spoke to each person
19:57
Speaker 1: for about five minutes and off the field. Need let's
20:00
Speaker 1: say you can check that box. So let's go to Jaytown.
20:04
Speaker 1: Our offensive line here we go. Buckle up, folks. Our
20:07
Speaker 1: offensive line is pretty good. It's not a blow up
20:10
Speaker 1: offensive line. I guess Urban hasn't read the comments section.
20:14
Speaker 1: Keep been pretty busy. John's I guess he hasn't noticed. Y. Yeah,
20:18
Speaker 1: that's in reference to uh everyone. In a while, somebody
20:23
Speaker 1: will mention the ozone mailbag the comments section. I have
20:26
Speaker 1: no idea what that really is, but I hear I
20:29
Speaker 1: hear one exists. Um, and this is something we've been
20:33
Speaker 1: harping on Brian Ashlyn on the show since early in
20:37
Speaker 1: the season. People love to criticize offensive line. They love
20:41
Speaker 1: to blame everything on an offense on the offensive line.
20:45
Speaker 1: We've said it a million times. This offensive line wasn't
20:48
Speaker 1: bad last year. I thought the first tell, the first
20:51
Speaker 1: hint that the new regime believed that was in fact
20:55
Speaker 1: that George Warhop was retained. If you thought the offensive
20:57
Speaker 1: line stunk, you probably wouldn't have brought the coach back. Um,
21:01
Speaker 1: it's clear to me they believe there's some continuity that's
21:05
Speaker 1: that would be a good thing there. They have a
21:07
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback who's probably gonna start, might start, might draft
21:10
Speaker 1: a quarterback, So you know, I think the big question
21:15
Speaker 1: is what happens with Cam Robinson, a free agent. Beyond
21:18
Speaker 1: the people who are free agents, I could see this,
21:21
Speaker 1: I could see all four coming back. Not major changes
21:24
Speaker 1: in the offensive line this year. I wish I had
21:27
Speaker 1: told you people would already so they have been prepared
21:29
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah. Well, look, Jan Bruten told everybody as
21:34
Speaker 1: well that this line was going to be bedrock for
21:38
Speaker 1: the team this year, and they improved from twenty nineteen.
21:43
Speaker 1: They did. And the proof of that is undrafted rookie
21:48
Speaker 1: free agent running back runs for more than a thousand
21:50
Speaker 1: yards um. The quarterback held the ball too long. I mean,
21:53
Speaker 1: that's just a fact. Here's the thing. Offensive line play
21:57
Speaker 1: isn't as easy to diagnose as some folk would like
22:00
Speaker 1: it to be. Yeah, when a guy gets beat around
22:02
Speaker 1: the edge or a spin moved back to the inside
22:04
Speaker 1: to tackle, perhaps it's easy to go, well, you got beat.
22:07
Speaker 1: But you don't know what kind of games they're playing
22:09
Speaker 1: up front, what the assignments are, who's supposed to have who,
22:12
Speaker 1: where they're sliding the protection, Because the quarterback is making
22:15
Speaker 1: all those checks and changes with the center at the
22:16
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So where you think you're seeing weakness,
22:20
Speaker 1: you might not be. You might be seeing some mental
22:22
Speaker 1: errors here or there. They cleaned that up in twenty
22:24
Speaker 1: to twenty uh and so the line is good. It's
22:28
Speaker 1: not you know, the Dallas Cowboys of the last decade good,
22:31
Speaker 1: but it's good and it can get better. And there
22:33
Speaker 1: are players in this draft, and there are players in
22:36
Speaker 1: free agency that can help them get better. But as
22:38
Speaker 1: you said, John, it's gonna depend on what they think
22:40
Speaker 1: of Cam Robinson, how much they're willing to pay, how
22:42
Speaker 1: much you know Cam is going to ask for, how
22:45
Speaker 1: much he's willing to accept. Um. The good news for
22:48
Speaker 1: the Jaguars is you're not tearing this thing down. You're
22:50
Speaker 1: looking to build it up. And that's I thought. George
22:52
Speaker 1: warhop did an excellent job last year. He really is
22:56
Speaker 1: a tremendous coach. And that's not just my opinion, that's
22:59
Speaker 1: the opinion of people around the league. When I say, hey,
23:00
Speaker 1: tell me about George Warhop, Um, and I was with
23:03
Speaker 1: you when they kept him. My thought out. Okay, Jake
23:06
Speaker 1: Gruden was right. This offensive line was solid, and the
23:09
Speaker 1: Jaguars agree by keeping him as their offensive line coach.
23:12
Speaker 1: Going and more, Trevor Lawrence to wrap up ozone snapshot
23:17
Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville, Kyle, what do you got for us?
23:20
Speaker 1: I'm as excited as anyone else about Trevor Lawrence coming
23:23
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. Is there any chance he might refuse to
23:26
Speaker 1: play here? I believe it's happened a couple of times
23:29
Speaker 1: before Manning Elway any concern here, Mr Oser, No, and
23:37
Speaker 1: oh period, And I was gonna stop there, but I
23:42
Speaker 1: can't be just one word guy. Look, he's clearly communicating
23:46
Speaker 1: with urban Meyer. He came out in the draft knowing
23:49
Speaker 1: that Jaguars had to pick. This is, you know, Jaguars fan, angst,
23:55
Speaker 1: popping back up, worry over nothing, all of these things.
24:00
Speaker 1: He's not gonna say no to playing here. There's no
24:03
Speaker 1: reason to write stories or comment in the comments section
24:06
Speaker 1: about Hey, it looks like Trevor maybe likes you. If
24:10
Speaker 1: they draft him, which I firmly believe they will, He's
24:12
Speaker 1: gonna play here. As a Seinfeld set or is uh
24:17
Speaker 1: Banniel said on Seinfeld, this is the meal, this is
24:20
Speaker 1: what it is. He's gonna be here the end. Enough
24:24
Speaker 1: with the drama. Here's what I can add. Why wouldn't
24:29
Speaker 1: you want to live in Jacksonville? Right? I mean you
24:31
Speaker 1: people around the league like to poke fund because the
24:33
Speaker 1: team hasn't been that good in recent years. But that's
24:36
Speaker 1: why he's coming here. You know, he's coming here to
24:39
Speaker 1: lift this franchise up. Where would you rather live right now?
24:42
Speaker 1: In North Florida or in New York? Are you kidding?
24:45
Speaker 1: I forget the taxes, we all know the tax situation here.
24:48
Speaker 1: But the sunshine. He's gonna make enough money that if
24:51
Speaker 1: he wants to live on the ocean or on the river,
24:52
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to do that. Uh. And we
24:54
Speaker 1: are living in an open society of responsible people who
24:57
Speaker 1: are dealing with the pandemic, as opposed to one that's
25:01
Speaker 1: been closed down for all this time. Where would you
25:03
Speaker 1: want to come? Plus, he's from Georgia. I mean, it's
25:05
Speaker 1: not like he's from New York in New Jersey or
25:07
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and wants to go home. He is home. And No,
25:10
Speaker 1: this is a great market. This is a great place
25:14
Speaker 1: to live. And once ownership gets this thing turned around,
25:17
Speaker 1: it's going to be a great franchise and he's a
25:19
Speaker 1: big part of that. Now, if I'm him, Jacksonville sounds
25:23
Speaker 1: really really good to me. Brian, Brian live on the river.
25:31
Speaker 1: He's gonna be about to buy the river? Are you
25:32
Speaker 1: kidding me? He's gonna own the river? Well, if I'm him,
25:37
Speaker 1: come out towards the beach and I find an ocean
25:40
Speaker 1: front home. And you know, I mean, look, he and
25:42
Speaker 1: his fiance are going to be in a marketplace where
25:47
Speaker 1: he will be able to enjoy a really strong quality
25:50
Speaker 1: of life. Yes, he'll be a huge fish in a
25:52
Speaker 1: smaller pond, but this is a place where people let
25:55
Speaker 1: you live your life. He'll be able to go out
25:57
Speaker 1: to dinner, sign some autographs, shake some hands, but people
26:00
Speaker 1: will leave him alone and let him enjoy dinner with
26:02
Speaker 1: his wife out. This market fits him better than any
26:06
Speaker 1: other market in the NFL. I think, because he's from
26:08
Speaker 1: small town Georgia. I love it. I think it's going
26:11
Speaker 1: to be an awesome pairing. And you'll remember not to
26:15
Speaker 1: hit myself on the chest too hard. I said last year,
26:18
Speaker 1: I would I would be willing to accept any record
26:20
Speaker 1: whatsoever in if it meant I got him. He fits
26:25
Speaker 1: this marketplace so well. Devout Christian, a person from the South,
26:31
Speaker 1: a person who is a high character that this market values.
26:36
Speaker 1: No way, man, this is the perfect pairing. And thankfully
26:39
Speaker 1: the Jaguars went one in fifteen. I was willing to
26:41
Speaker 1: endure that to get this kid. And now I'm just
26:44
Speaker 1: all smiles because I know what he means for this
26:46
Speaker 1: franchise and this city. Yes, the end of his pro day,
26:49
Speaker 1: he said he was the biggest fan of Casey Musgraves
26:52
Speaker 1: and his favorite song was Butterflies. I'm in that's a
26:56
Speaker 1: great fit for Jacksonville. John, go look up Casey Musgraves.
26:59
Speaker 1: You'll of her. You gotta tell me who she is? Yeah,
27:03
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27:06
Speaker 1: send you some tracks. You're gonna like her, and so
27:08
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27:11
Speaker 1: She's not from Jacksonville, but she's a country seeing a
27:13
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27:19
Speaker 1: He fits. This is gonna be a great This is
27:21
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27:24
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Speaker 1: table on both of them. And you know, I look
29:30
Speaker 1: at Miles jack as a guy is very floyd to guy,
29:33
Speaker 1: can't you know, get downhill, very athletic, and a guy
29:37
Speaker 1: who's really good at open space. And then I just
29:40
Speaker 1: yesterday Joe came by to see me for the first time.
29:42
Speaker 1: We sat down and talked a long time, and the
29:45
Speaker 1: same thing with Joe. You know, you're looking at two
29:48
Speaker 1: backers that kind of are in the prime of their
29:51
Speaker 1: career and because of the amount of time, the length
29:56
Speaker 1: of time that they have been in the NFL, but
29:58
Speaker 1: guys that can make plays and and guys that will
30:01
Speaker 1: become the staple of our defense because if you if
30:04
Speaker 1: you're not good at linebacker, then you really don't have
30:07
Speaker 1: much of a chance to play really good defense. But
30:09
Speaker 1: it makes UH really really looking forward to coaching both
30:13
Speaker 1: of them because they want to learn. You can tell
30:15
Speaker 1: their learners they want to learn and they want to
30:18
Speaker 1: they want to get better. It's all about creating value,
30:20
Speaker 1: and those guys want to create value for themselves and
30:23
Speaker 1: they want to become the best Miles Jack Joe Shobert
30:27
Speaker 1: the peak of their careers. That's what Jaguars fans want
30:29
Speaker 1: to hear. That was Charlie Strong, assistant head coach and
30:32
Speaker 1: inside linebackers coach, on his press conference last Thursday when
30:36
Speaker 1: urban Meyer announced that coaching staff, that very large coaching staff.
30:41
Speaker 1: As we're back on Jaguars Drive Time with Brian Sexton
30:43
Speaker 1: and John Ousier, it is officially to interrupt you real quick.
30:47
Speaker 1: Of course, go ahead, I'd interrupt you real quick because
30:49
Speaker 1: I was in Gamesville, UH this weekend with some friends
30:53
Speaker 1: and they're huge Gator fans, and they had a gathering
30:56
Speaker 1: of people and lots of Gator fans and they were
30:58
Speaker 1: all disappoint Did that Urban Meyer hired Charlie Strong because
31:04
Speaker 1: they wanted him. They thought he was going to come
31:06
Speaker 1: back to Gainesville and be the Gators defensive coordinator this year.
31:10
Speaker 1: That's how strong he is in Gainesville. The people down
31:14
Speaker 1: there were very disappointed that he landed in Jacksonville. And
31:18
Speaker 1: I said, I don't care. I'm glad he's there. Not
31:22
Speaker 1: so fast, Skator fans, I see what you did there
31:25
Speaker 1: with the Strong Strong reference. You're on it this Tuesday morning,
31:27
Speaker 1: as we get ready for beyond number one. We took
31:30
Speaker 1: a big look at all the draft picks last week,
31:33
Speaker 1: eleven of them to be exact, and took a big
31:35
Speaker 1: picture look. And now we're gonna stay in the first
31:37
Speaker 1: round and go to that second pick in the first round,
31:40
Speaker 1: number twenty five. And I pose this question to you.
31:44
Speaker 1: There are a lot of options that you can go at.
31:47
Speaker 1: Most recently, cornerback and safety have been mocked to the
31:51
Speaker 1: Jaguars at but John, if they do switch to a
31:55
Speaker 1: three four and you have Joe Schobert and Miles Jack
31:57
Speaker 1: most likely as inside linebackers, is that strong enough? Do
32:01
Speaker 1: you feel good enough about that to not bring in
32:04
Speaker 1: any other options. We take a look at four linebackers
32:08
Speaker 1: who are in the first round or mocked to be
32:10
Speaker 1: in the first round. Maybe you pick one of these
32:12
Speaker 1: guys if you're gonna shift that defense. But you also
32:16
Speaker 1: make the argument there a lot of needs and you
32:18
Speaker 1: can go a bunch of different directions with that pick. Yeah,
32:23
Speaker 1: and you know it'll be this is gonna be so hard,
32:26
Speaker 1: and I get we have to do the drill um.
32:30
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if they go linebacker at number
32:33
Speaker 1: twenty five because of what's on the roster and because
32:39
Speaker 1: it's linebacker at that spot is a tough spot because
32:45
Speaker 1: you often don't get the value and impact. Trent val
32:48
Speaker 1: Ki is a value drafter bleas in value of the position.
32:54
Speaker 1: So I'd be surprised if they go linebacker there. I'm
32:57
Speaker 1: thinking it will probably wide receiver, tie it end, maybe
33:01
Speaker 1: even an impact playmaking running back, somebody to add some
33:05
Speaker 1: dynamics to this offense. But Parsons, I think it's Parsons
33:09
Speaker 1: from Penn State, if I'm reading right, that's the guy
33:13
Speaker 1: that you read the most about, that you hear the
33:16
Speaker 1: most about as a possibility there. For me, if they
33:19
Speaker 1: go three four, you've got three lines, you've got four
33:22
Speaker 1: linebackers to go across if they stay four three, Yeah,
33:25
Speaker 1: I don't know that you really need a first round
33:27
Speaker 1: linebacker in that spot, So I would be surprised if
33:31
Speaker 1: this is the move. I'll I'll remind you that Trent
33:36
Speaker 1: Balky was in San Francisco when the Niners used a
33:40
Speaker 1: top ten pick on Patrick Willis, so I wouldn't put
33:43
Speaker 1: it past him to draft one. And where you look
33:45
Speaker 1: at the Jaguars at five and thirty three, if there's
33:49
Speaker 1: a linebacker there, and I think the Collins kid from
33:51
Speaker 1: Tulsa fits the mold of an inside three or four
33:55
Speaker 1: linebacker better than most. He reminds me of Levon Kirkland
33:58
Speaker 1: in his body style. He's it's the pounds. You want
34:01
Speaker 1: a guy who can get up in there and clogg holes.
34:04
Speaker 1: You know that's your guy right there. There are a
34:06
Speaker 1: couple of other linebackers. Nick Bolton from Missouri is there. Um,
34:09
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me at all if at in the
34:13
Speaker 1: part of the five in the first round or thirty
34:16
Speaker 1: three at the top of the second round. If the
34:19
Speaker 1: Jaguars thought one of these linebackers fit that, they wouldn't
34:22
Speaker 1: grab them. Remember in a three force geame and to
34:25
Speaker 1: get worth assuming we're playing this game in a three
34:27
Speaker 1: force geame. It's about the linebackers. In a four three scheme,
34:30
Speaker 1: it's about the defensive ends. It's about the guys up front.
34:33
Speaker 1: You can never have enough linebackers. It seemed forever that
34:37
Speaker 1: the Steelers were grabbing linebacker after linebacker after linebacker, you know,
34:41
Speaker 1: Joey Porter, and I mean, I can't remember them all.
34:44
Speaker 1: There were so many. But if you go back and look,
34:46
Speaker 1: they were always drafting guys that fit their mold. So
34:49
Speaker 1: if the Jaguars want to run a three form, it
34:52
Speaker 1: would not I wouldn't put it past them at all
34:55
Speaker 1: to either put Christian bar Moore from Alabama. There Orsavan
35:00
Speaker 1: Collins who kind of fits right there. And I think
35:02
Speaker 1: the biggest question for not the biggest question, but something
35:05
Speaker 1: you have to address his Shock Quarterman, the Jaguars fourth
35:08
Speaker 1: round pick of the draft last year. Where is he.
35:11
Speaker 1: We haven't seen a lot of him, and we talked
35:13
Speaker 1: a lot about him in training camp, John, But maybe
35:15
Speaker 1: that's the guy that you start plugging and playing and
35:17
Speaker 1: and seeing more of and seeing the potential there. Because
35:20
Speaker 1: Shock Quarterman was a guy that started his freshman year
35:22
Speaker 1: and then went on to start all four years at Miami. Yeah,
35:26
Speaker 1: I mean he would fit three or four inside linebacker
35:29
Speaker 1: because he's not really as much as side to side
35:32
Speaker 1: as he has attacked the line of scrimmage, So he
35:36
Speaker 1: would make sense. And you know, the more I listened
35:38
Speaker 1: to Brian, you know, I'll back off a little bit.
35:41
Speaker 1: I'll say, uh, you know, linebacker in the first round, Brian,
35:45
Speaker 1: you convinced me. Congratulations first time. And remember I said,
35:50
Speaker 1: I said, but I kind of snuck in on the
35:52
Speaker 1: top of the second round and thirty three. There are
35:56
Speaker 1: some linebackers there. Let me give you another name. Um
35:59
Speaker 1: the kid Day. This kid from Kentucky stands out. Bolton
36:03
Speaker 1: from Missouri, jabro Cox from l s U. Um, these
36:07
Speaker 1: are guys that are gonna fit you know where the
36:09
Speaker 1: Jaguars are between and thirty three. Again, we could be
36:13
Speaker 1: walking down the wrong road. They could be like, look,
36:15
Speaker 1: we are four three all the way. We like what
36:18
Speaker 1: we've got, but we don't know who they're gonna go
36:20
Speaker 1: after or who they're gonna land in free agency. Um,
36:23
Speaker 1: they're not gonna tell us what what scheme they're gonna run.
36:25
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that if they if they decide that
36:28
Speaker 1: they want to run A three four where they're at
36:31
Speaker 1: with their second first round pick and their first second
36:34
Speaker 1: round pick, and maybe even the second second round pick,
36:36
Speaker 1: which is at there are some guys there that that
36:39
Speaker 1: fit that. How did you call it attack the line
36:41
Speaker 1: of scrimmage linebacker mentality? And you said this on the
36:44
Speaker 1: podcast yesterday, You're exactly right. Neither Joe Schobert nor Miles
36:48
Speaker 1: jack are attacked the line of scrimmage guys. They are
36:52
Speaker 1: more runaround, beat guys to the point of attack kind
36:56
Speaker 1: of linebackers. Um, But some of these guys may fit
36:59
Speaker 1: that more. We shall see weeks and weeks and weeks
37:03
Speaker 1: to talk about what the Jaguars will do with the
37:05
Speaker 1: first pick and the second pick in the first round
37:07
Speaker 1: at all eleven draft picks in the segment beyond number
37:10
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Speaker 1: McNair family and I have asked them for my release
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Speaker 1: I came here ten years ago as a kid from
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin who had never really been to Texas before, and
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Speaker 1: now I can't imagine my life without Texas. In um,
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Speaker 1: the way that you guys have treated me besides Draft Night.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys booed me on Draft Night, but
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Speaker 1: every day after that you treated me like family. J. J.
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Speaker 1: Watt out of the Houston Texans Organization, Ajor News in
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Speaker 1: the a f C South to start this What's Trending
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Speaker 1: segment on Jaguars Drivetime looking at all things around the
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Speaker 1: NFL with Brian Sexton and John Osier. So let's take
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Speaker 1: a look. He starts out this What's Trending segment a
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Speaker 1: street free agents, not literally, but he is on the
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Speaker 1: street looking for a team you could go sign. Him
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Speaker 1: today if you wanted to j J. Watt out of Houston, Texas.
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Speaker 1: And that brings us to our second point, which is
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Is he going to stay the Texans quarterback?
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Speaker 1: The Texans have said we are not trading him, We're
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Speaker 1: not answering phone calls. No, no, no, Deshaun Watson says,
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Speaker 1: get me out of here. How do you find a
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Speaker 1: middle ground here? And finally staying in the a f
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Speaker 1: C South, who is the Colts quarterback going to be?
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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has retired and all kinds of talks about
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz possibly going to Indianapolis, but the Colts have said,
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Speaker 1: we want a long term solution here, a long term marriage.
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Speaker 1: We don't want a two year stint and do the
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Speaker 1: same thing we just did bringing in a veteran quarter
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Speaker 1: This guy has to fit. So, John, you spent multiple
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Speaker 1: years Indianapolis. How do you see this shaking out his
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Speaker 1: carsone's going to go there? Yeah? Well, uh, my multiple
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Speaker 1: years Indianapolis set ended ten years ago. So I don't
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Speaker 1: have much insight into actually what they do now beyond
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Speaker 1: what I see, but it feels like that's gonna be
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Speaker 1: where Wentz ends up. Uh, it feels like right now
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia wants more than the Colts want to pay. It
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Speaker 1: sounds like that's where Wentz wants to be. My guess
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Speaker 1: is it eventually works out, and it made us have
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Speaker 1: to take some time for uh, the two sides to meet.
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Speaker 1: I guess at this point I would be a little
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Speaker 1: surprised if he's not there. I'd put the odds, you know,
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Speaker 1: sixty forty. I would lean towards Wentz being there. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: right now you're seeing any you know. I think it's
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Speaker 1: worth noting that the Cults were a franchise of immense
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Speaker 1: quarterback stability. Right Peyton Manning goes there in Finish Your
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Speaker 1: Stuff in eleven, they take Andrew Luck in twelve, and
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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you know, they're playing this
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Speaker 1: this roulette game trying to figure out who their guy is.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting because that's something they've never really well, I
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Speaker 1: shouldn't say never, but Colts fans have not had to
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Speaker 1: deal with that in more than twenty years. They have
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Speaker 1: been remarkably, remarkably stable and sound at the position, and
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Speaker 1: now they're trying to figure it out. They don't get
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Speaker 1: in on Stafford. It's not a done deal with Wentz
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Speaker 1: by the way, um and do you really know what
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Speaker 1: you're getting in Wentz? I mean he was benched for
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Speaker 1: Jalen hurts Um and they don't want him, and he
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Speaker 1: brings pretty big salary cap number to you. So does
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Speaker 1: Wentz fix it or should they maybe use some draft
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Speaker 1: capital and move up. They've got a really nice roster,
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Speaker 1: a really really nice roster, and if you get Wentz
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Speaker 1: in there, maybe he fixes it, but maybe he doesn't.
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Speaker 1: And and maybe they're on the edge of this instable
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Speaker 1: quarterback unstable quarterback thing that a lot of franchises go with,
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Speaker 1: and they just kind of flounder in middle until they,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, find their guy or tank and end
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Speaker 1: up with a guy high in the draft at some point.
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Speaker 1: Who knows that's not that's not a turnkey there, number
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Speaker 1: one in the division kind of thing. Yep. The favorites
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Speaker 1: Carson wins San Francisco forty niner is in Indianapolis Colts.
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Speaker 1: We'll see where he ends up. And that's what's trending
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Speaker 1: in the NFL and what's trending on social media right
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Speaker 1: now in Jacksonville is making teal the primary color for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguar six thousand, fifty retweets. Get him up to
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Speaker 1: come to and it happens. Let's go Twitter, get to work.
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Speaker 1: It's early, make it happen. Twenty one retweets and we'll
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Speaker 1: do our part. That's three retweets right there for you Jaguars.
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