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The Styling Mistakes Ruining Your Outfits ft. Paul Versace · Two Broke Chicks

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  Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on Gadigal land. Always was, always
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  Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal land. Hey chicks, I'm Sal.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Al.
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  Speaker 3: And this is Two Broke Chicks, a show that shares
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  Speaker 3: life lessons and tips to help make you rich in life.
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  Speaker 3: And today we are joined by celebrity stylist and content
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  Speaker 3: creator Paul Versace, also known by his handle.
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  Speaker 1: Styled by Bloom.
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  Speaker 2: He's dressed some of Sydney's shining stars like Sofa Dofa,
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  Speaker 2: Shani Grimman and Sally Obermeter, among others.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Paul.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here.
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  Speaker 1: So exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to fix every single wardrobe
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  Speaker 2: styling problem I've ever had in my entire life.
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  Speaker 4: I can try.
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  Speaker 1: No, it will happen.
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  Speaker 2: I also was like laughing this morning because I've dressed
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  Speaker 2: very cozy today, very comfy.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have it in me to
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  Speaker 1: like wear jeans today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of regretting this shirt.
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  Speaker 1: But it's okay. No, you look great.
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  Speaker 2: I look like a slob that I was like, do
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  Speaker 2: you know what? Great first impression.
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  Speaker 3: Before we dive into our questions, obviously we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be talking styling with you today, but we always start
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  Speaker 3: with a life.
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  Speaker 1: Lesson of the week with our guests. So would you
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  Speaker 1: like to kick us off?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I think this week, especially because I've got,
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  Speaker 4: I've had a few different projects on, I think like
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  Speaker 4: it's not that deep. So like when things don't go
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  Speaker 4: to plan, I'm just like, I used to really like
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  Speaker 4: stress out and be like, but now it's just like,
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  Speaker 4: it's okay. It's going to sort itself out. So that's
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  Speaker 4: been my week this week. It's like, it's okay. Let's
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  Speaker 4: just move on and we'll get on to the next thing.
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  Speaker 1: And you got through all of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like even today we started walking here and it
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  Speaker 4: started raining, but it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could let that ruin your day. Like
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  Speaker 1: you could let that put you in the worst mood.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: But it's like I can't control it and really is
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  Speaker 3: it that bad?
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  Speaker 1: Like what was the worst.
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  Speaker 4: Thing that happened? No.
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  Speaker 1: It's an inconvenience.
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  Speaker 4: It's on that tape.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on that tape. I love that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Shall we get into the questions? Yeah, let's do the
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  Speaker 1: damn thing.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to know, has fashion like always been
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  Speaker 2: a passion for rhyming, of yours? Like has that always
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  Speaker 2: been there? When did you realize you wanted to make
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  Speaker 2: styling a career?
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  Speaker 4: So I started my working career in social media. So
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  Speaker 4: I had a social media company called Bloom Media. So
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  Speaker 4: that's where the bloom actually comes from. But I always
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  Speaker 4: loved fashion, but I just knew how kind of cutthroat
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  Speaker 4: and intense that industry was. And I would always like
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  Speaker 4: watch the Brownlow and see all these ladies in amazing
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  Speaker 4: dresses and think it was so cool or just be
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  Speaker 4: so into fashion but then looking back on it i
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  Speaker 4: remember when i was like seven i used to take
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  Speaker 4: my sisters to like that like a shopping center in
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  Speaker 4: melbourne and i would dress them for a wedding so
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  Speaker 4: i was like indirectly styling them and i'd always like
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  Speaker 4: help my mom or be really interested in like what
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  Speaker 4: everyone else was wearing and then my best friends um
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  Speaker 4: they would just kind of like that follow through as
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  Speaker 4: well like But I also, like, at this point was still, like,
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  Speaker 4: not out. And I was, like, this, like, young guy
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  Speaker 4: that was trying to, like, help my girlfriends. It was
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  Speaker 4: just a whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: So you've just always had an eye for it.
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  Speaker 4: Always.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Always loved it. And I just had this weird ability.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why I have it, but I don't
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  Speaker 4: forget an outfit. Really? I'm not even joking. Like, once
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  Speaker 4: I see an outfit, it's just in there. So it's, like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen Suits before.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, like a little bit, not much.
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  Speaker 4: He has that photographic memory. Mine's not for maths or anything.
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  Speaker 4: It's outfits.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Have you ever watched the Lizzie McGuire movie?
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  Speaker 4: I literally just bought tickets to Hilary Duff. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: Me and one of my best friends were obsessed with her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We're obsessed as well. We're going to see her too
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  Speaker 1: in Sydney and in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: It's so good.
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  Speaker 3: There's that iconic quote from that movie and she's like,
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  Speaker 3: Lizzie McGuire, you are an outfit repeater.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, well, you are an outfit rememberer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But you use your powers for.
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  Speaker 2: Good, not evil.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't mean, I don't like, I just, it's
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  Speaker 4: just weird. I just, I always like, I'll remember an
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  Speaker 4: outfit from like five years ago. Oh my God. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It helps with my job because if I find something,
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  Speaker 4: I'll be like, yeah, there's that shoe or there's that.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's just a weird talent of mine.
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  Speaker 2: Is there like an outfit in like pop culture or
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  Speaker 2: like a TV show like Sex and the City or
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  Speaker 2: like Gossip Girl that you're like, that outfit was like
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  Speaker 2: 10 out of 10, like A + +?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I remember watching Gossip Girl especially and just like,
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  Speaker 4: I think it was like also the right age. I
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  Speaker 4: was the right age watching that too and it was
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  Speaker 4: just like, It just made– I'm all about like I
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  Speaker 4: love New York and Paris. And I like how you
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  Speaker 4: can just dress up for everything.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone there dresses so cool.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's why– just being able to dress up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like Australians are so much more casual, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like just going out and like wearing like your
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  Speaker 4: best outfit I think is so fun. Yeah. And I
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  Speaker 4: think watching Gossip Girl and they are so extra even
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  Speaker 4: in their like school uniform. That really like hooked me in.
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  Speaker 4: And then obviously Sex and the City. But then this
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  Speaker 4: show is like younger and.
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  Speaker 1: There's– Love that show.
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  Speaker 4: So underrated as well.
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  Speaker 2: We went to Marie's Crisis in New York recently where
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  Speaker 2: they go in the– Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was so fun.
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  Speaker 4: But also so underrated that show. Like I've binged it
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  Speaker 4: like twice. It's really good.
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  Speaker 1: It's so good.
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  Speaker 2: I actually haven't watched it for a second time that
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, do you know what? That's like a Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm locked in.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not moving.
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  Speaker 4: The main guy in it too.
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  Speaker 1: He's so, so hot. And again, Hilary Duff.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Love it. Just all these like huge fans. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love that two out of three of those shows
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  Speaker 2: had Hilary Duff in it too, which is amazing. I know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so true.
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  Speaker 1: My God, Gossip Girl.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, chickies, we've got a bit of
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  Speaker 3: rain going on in Sydney at the moment. So if
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  Speaker 3: you hear that coming through, enjoy the ambience.
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  Speaker 1: This is your free calm app.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so true.
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  Speaker 1: Essentially now. So true.
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  Speaker 3: But Paul, you've styled a lot of really cool people,
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  Speaker 3: as we mentioned. Are there any looks that you're particularly
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  Speaker 3: proud of?
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  Speaker 4: Think for me the brown low i know i know
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  Speaker 4: not everyone knows what it is is like they know
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  Speaker 4: what it is in sydney but i'm originally from melbourne
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  Speaker 4: so the brown low is like the met gala yeah
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  Speaker 4: melbourne and honestly like australia it's one of the biggest
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  Speaker 4: red carpets and i think the excitement of the build
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  Speaker 4: up for the brown low and then the brown low
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  Speaker 4: it's like a full production team it's like photographers and
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  Speaker 4: videographers and just seeing those looks come to life and
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  Speaker 4: i've worked with Alex Pendlebury and Annalise Dallins and just
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  Speaker 4: like getting the photos on that day. There's like, there's
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  Speaker 4: no better feeling than seeing them go live. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, the Brownlow for me is probably up there,
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  Speaker 4: but then there's moments where I've like gone to Paris with, um,
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  Speaker 4: shiny agreement. There's so many, like, I don't know. It's
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  Speaker 4: really hard to pick one because they're also special in
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  Speaker 4: their own way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And you spend so long working on them. And then
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  Speaker 4: there's looks that you, Might think they might be like,
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  Speaker 4: they're the ones that are going to, you're going to
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  Speaker 4: remember them for ages. When there's looks that I can,
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  Speaker 4: I'll like randomly think of, I'm like, wow, I did
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  Speaker 4: not think that would still be like there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know. It's hard to, everyone always asks
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  Speaker 4: me like, what's your favorite?
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  Speaker 1: It would be really hard to pick.
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  Speaker 4: It's super hard. Yeah. Like they're all so special in
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  Speaker 4: their own way. So I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's so fair enough.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We want to get into.
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  Speaker 2: Styling our own outfits and maybe sometimes, like why the outfit.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't quite work. Like there's something just like missing.
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  Speaker 2: Like if someone's looking at their wardrobe and they're always going,
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  Speaker 2: I have nothing to wear. What's the first thing you
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  Speaker 2: would tell them to do before buying anything new?
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  Speaker 4: I think first clear out your wardrobe. I think so
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  Speaker 4: many people, well, I do the same thing. You have
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  Speaker 4: so much in your wardrobe and you think you have
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  Speaker 4: so much, but then when you actually look at it,
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  Speaker 4: you're not pulling out anything from that wardrobe. So I think,
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  Speaker 4: Empty out. Like, be really brutal. Like, I do it
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  Speaker 4: as well. There's those, like, four shirts that you think
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  Speaker 4: you're going to wear or save for a special occasion.
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  Speaker 4: You've had those special occasions. And you did wear it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I think, like, clearing out your wardrobe. But also,
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  Speaker 4: I've started doing that now. Buy pieces or, like, buy
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  Speaker 4: pieces that you actually love. I feel like a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people panic buy. And you'll like go to like
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  Speaker 4: a Zara or go to a H & M or
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  Speaker 4: go even to like a pretty expensive store and just
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  Speaker 4: quickly buy something because you need something.
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  Speaker 1: Or like you're missing a pair.
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  Speaker 4: Of jeans or like missing a jacket, but you don't
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  Speaker 4: actually love it.
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  Speaker 2: Is there anything that you do personally, whether it's like
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  Speaker 2: if you're styling for, like if you're looking for pieces
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  Speaker 2: for a shoot or an event or even just for
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  Speaker 2: yourself that you're like, how do I know that I
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  Speaker 2: genuinely love it?
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  Speaker 4: I always, for me, it's starting with one piece. So
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  Speaker 4: base it around, like, if you're going to a dinner
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  Speaker 4: or a lunch, pick a pair of pants that you
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  Speaker 4: love and then start by styling that. I think you
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  Speaker 4: get really overwhelmed when you're like, I have to style
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  Speaker 4: a look.
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  Speaker 1: Do the whole thing, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then you're grabbing, like, T-shirts. We're grabbing a shirt,
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  Speaker 4: different types of skirts, and they're all on your bed,
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  Speaker 4: and you're looking at all these things. And, like, I
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  Speaker 4: also think I have ADHD. I know I have ADHD.
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  Speaker 4: It's true. So you get really overwhelmed with making decisions.
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  Speaker 4: I think if you get a pair of pants that
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  Speaker 4: you know you're going to wear, even if it's a
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  Speaker 4: pair of heels, pull out the heels and then work
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  Speaker 4: your way back. I think that's what I do. Like
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  Speaker 4: even today, I would pull out a pair of shorts
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  Speaker 4: or like a shirt that I really want to wear
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  Speaker 4: and then style that back instead of being like, I
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  Speaker 4: need a whole look.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like rather than styling yourself, you style like a piece
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  Speaker 2: of clothing.
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  Speaker 1: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's such a good tip Cause I'm also the same.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, there's, it's, I got to do the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, where, where do I start? But it's like
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  Speaker 2: just going to one thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, even when I like get booked to style
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  Speaker 4: someone for an event, we're never just doing the whole
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  Speaker 4: look in one go. We're doing like a Pinterest board
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  Speaker 4: or we're starting with the dress or say, Oh, I
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  Speaker 4: love these earrings. Can we start by that? I think
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  Speaker 4: that's going to pull back the stress.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah what do you think is one of like the
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  Speaker 2: biggest mistakes and i know like fashion and style is
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  Speaker 2: you know subjective like a great look to someone could
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  Speaker 2: be like a grim vibe to another But in your opinion,
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  Speaker 2: what's like the biggest mistake that we make when we're
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  Speaker 2: styling our own outfits?
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  Speaker 4: I actually had a client yesterday that I had a
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  Speaker 4: fitting with her and it was the first time we've
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  Speaker 4: had a fitting working together. And I noticed I actually
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  Speaker 4: forgot that it happens so much, but so many people
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  Speaker 4: just automatically think that's not going to work for them.
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  Speaker 4: So like I had all these options on a table
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  Speaker 4: and like, things that were scary and, like, things that
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  Speaker 4: she would never try. And I'd pull them up and
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  Speaker 4: be like, let's try this one. She's like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't suit me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, did they say that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't suit me?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but the thing is, like, how do you know
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  Speaker 4: that doesn't suit you? They've had one bad experience in
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  Speaker 4: a store. I used to do that a few years
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  Speaker 4: ago and just stick to what I felt good in
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  Speaker 4: at that one time and not only ever buy variations
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  Speaker 4: of that style. And I would see things in a
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  Speaker 4: store and be like, no, that doesn't– I can't wear
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  Speaker 4: a v-neck. yeah because I had this one time I
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  Speaker 4: tried on a v-neck and who knows.
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  Speaker 5: What mood I was in yeah yeah or like what
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  Speaker 5: the fit was like there's so many things to consider
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  Speaker 5: I think that is so relatable and something that I
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  Speaker 5: say all the time like I can't wear.
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  Speaker 4: That literally and like I think like you nine times
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  Speaker 4: out of ten I didn't even think it'd be nine
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  Speaker 4: maybe eight times out of ten you still might be
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  Speaker 4: right but there could be that little chance where you
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  Speaker 4: might try a top or a jacket or even like
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  Speaker 4: a pair of earrings that you're like, Ooh, I can't
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  Speaker 4: wear those earrings. Cause you've tried, you've had this weird
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  Speaker 4: memory that you think, Oh no, like I had that
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  Speaker 4: time where I tried it on and like, well, I
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  Speaker 4: can't wear, I can't wear halter neck tops. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: who said you can't wear halter neck tops?
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  Speaker 2: I also think we get in our heads of being like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not cool enough to wear something like, and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: but if you wear it, then you automatically are.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. But it's just like, it's great. I literally yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Whoa, this is like, it's still such
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  Speaker 4: a big thing. Cause I, I work with a lot
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  Speaker 4: of clients now they're like they trust the process with
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  Speaker 4: styling yeah and I'm always like just trust me just
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  Speaker 4: like try it on and like we might both hate
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  Speaker 4: it like there's been times with oh.
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  Speaker 2: Really yeah it's not it you're like okay you were
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  Speaker 2: right maybe it's not.
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  Speaker 4: It they've honestly been like there's been styling sessions for
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  Speaker 4: example with um Francesca Hung and we literally will have
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  Speaker 4: moments where we've like been texting each other this dress
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  Speaker 4: and we both think it's going to be insane. And
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  Speaker 4: then we go to put it on and like neither,
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  Speaker 4: both of us are like unverbal and we're just looking
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  Speaker 4: at it and we're just like, I hate it. Take
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  Speaker 4: it off. So like that happens too. But I think
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  Speaker 4: because I work in this space, I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 4: And I've got to just move on. Whereas that's really
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  Speaker 4: deflating to someone that has been on the internet, sent
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  Speaker 4: the photo to all their girlfriends and they're like, I'm
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  Speaker 4: obsessed with this dress. It comes in and then they
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  Speaker 4: don't actually think it's, The dress is not working for them.
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  Speaker 4: It's them not working for the dress. And I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to go anymore. I'm going to wear something in
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  Speaker 4: my own cupboard, but it's not actually you. It's the dress.
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  Speaker 4: Like the dress isn't right for you.
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  Speaker 1: I needed to hear that.
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  Speaker 4: A big thing that lots of women I find, they
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  Speaker 4: might not be that size six. And then they think
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  Speaker 4: straight away, no, I can't like show my waist. It
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  Speaker 4: needs to be loose. And I'm like, that's again a
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  Speaker 4: big mistake because your body like is– the canvas like
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  Speaker 4: you want to show off like your waist when you
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  Speaker 4: try hide it that's when the outfit starts going south
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  Speaker 4: south i feel.
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah when you're trying to hide yourself rather than your.
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  Speaker 4: Waist is your biggest asset like you've got to show
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  Speaker 4: it like it's showing the portions of your body when
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  Speaker 4: you try hide those that's when the it kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of gets a bit i don't know yeah you don't
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: see the the canvas if you will i love that
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: what are some things a celebrity stylist would never buy
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: It can just be personal taste as well. Just to
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: be messy, I want to know.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: I would never buy. That's a really hard one.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Because you're like, I'll give it to you.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: I still buy like LaVisa. For me, it's like if
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: it works with the outfit, I don't care if it's
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: $ 10 or if it's $ 500. But if it's going to
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: make the outfit better, I'm going to LaVisa and buying
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: those $ 20 earrings.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Love that.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: So I don't know. That's a hard question for me.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Cause I feel like if it, if it's right for
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: the look, I'm going to do it.
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Are there any like certain items like, or styles, like
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: the first thing that pops into my mind is like.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Capris, which is a thing for me.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: That it's like certain things that you're like, I just don't,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: can't make that work.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Like you're like, that's the one that I'm like, I
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: think for me it'd be skinny jeans now. I don't
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: think I– and I see it coming back.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: And I'm a hand on heart used to be that
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: guy that wore the tightest skinny jeans but I didn't know.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: I just don't want them to come back.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so fair. Yeah.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: We had this conversation the other day as well and
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: we were like– because it's also coming back in like
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: women's and men's fashion.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: No, it was like all over the Prada runway. Like
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: everything was tight and I'm like, it's coming.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, no.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: I say that, next year I'm going to be in
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: like the tightest jeans. I'm like, it's okay.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. Honestly, and that's what we say.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: We're like, also it can come back and you can
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: style it in a different way, you know, in a
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: more modern way. But what actually makes an item easy
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: to style and wear repeatedly?
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: I think the fit. So I think if you love
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: the way something fits, you're going to be able to
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: style it so many ways. It's when you get that
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: pair of like jeans or pants. And what I do
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: is I alter everything. So I think a lot of
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: people don't do that. Or they're time poor and they don't.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I have like an alteration lady in Sydney and Melbourne.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Like this little lady, this lady that lives in, it's
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: just in Haymarket. And I literally drop everything to her.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: And it's not expensive, but it changes the way you
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: feel in the clothes. I think just like taking in
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: the waist that little bit or taking up the hem
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: or taking in the pant a little bit because it's
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: those things when you wear it and you're like fidgeting
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: and you hate about it. So then when you're trying
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: to style it, you already hate the outfit, but you
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: don't realize it's the fit. So I think the fit
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: for me is really important.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: So it's such a good tip as well because I
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: think when something like works, like when it fits you
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: well and it works.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: You end up wearing it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: All the time because it'll be like maybe you're going
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: out for friday drinks or something and you're like i'll
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: just wear that because you're like that's the faithful there
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: is literally.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: No better feeling than when someone says oh my god
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: i love your outfit because then you're like oh my
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: god i look so good yeah that's like then then
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: your confidence like i do a lot of styling for
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: people that then go on like meet morning shows and
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: or they'll be behind the camera and i think you
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: don't realize if you love the way you feel in
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: an outfit like i have friends that say to me
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: oh i I don't really care about fashion. I'm like, yeah,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: but you don't realize that if you are in an
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: outfit you love, your mood is just like 20 times better.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: And even if you don't like, you're not this huge
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: fashion person, it's how you feel. Like, and you see
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: them when they come to like a dinner and they
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: are loving their dress and you're like, where have you been? Like,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: just like feeling so good.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: That's so good. Do you have any like golden rules
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: for fits? So for example, I hear like, I don't
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: know that you're, I heard somebody the other day saying
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: that your pants should always kiss the ground.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: So do you have any like tips around that?
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: For like suiting, there's all different types of things like
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: that rules you should follow. But my thing is just
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: like dressing to your body shape. I think like I
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: could say to you like, oh, like, the pants you
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: need the pants to be to this length or you
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: need the pants to be here but that might not
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: be good for your body i think like try not
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: it's it's easier said than done try not to compare
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: what you're doing to the person next to you and
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: like i do like big styling suites with that where
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: i'm styling seven women for an award show and i
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: try to make sure that it's hard but like you
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: don't want any of them to look at the other
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: person and be like why does their dress look like
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: that on me? It's, yeah, it's, but I think for me,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: just dressing to your body. Yeah. Would be a tip.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: What are some of the things that people could do
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: in like their everyday outfits, like work fits or like
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: weekend fits that instantly just like level it up a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: little bit. Like it goes from just like a fit
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: to like a fit.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Accessories for me. Like I just recently, and I like,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: and buy that, buy that like, staple like that that
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: belt that you've been looking at for ages like for
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: me it was I actually saw another guy wearing the
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: this Gucci belt but I had always seen it I'm
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: like oh that's really cool like I feel like I
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: could style that in heaps of different ways but it's
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: like one of those pieces that if I can buy
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: it I'll buy it and then I was I just
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: was like no fuck it I'm gonna I swear yeah
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna buy it and then honestly it's made so
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: many outfits feel so elevated but even like a pair
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: of shoes that I really want or just like there's
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: one little styling accessory pieces for women it's like I'm
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: always about the bags yeah Or the shoes or like
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: I'll like throw in this like random contrast shoe or
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: a pop of color. Yeah. I think like if you're
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: like someone that likes wearing monochrome and all black, add
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: in a pop of color, add in something. Yeah, a
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: little red. Also what we said at the start of this,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: like I think dressing like it's like a sex in
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: the city or it's like one of those shows, like
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: when you like are a bit extra, that's when someone's
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: noticing your outfit. When you're in active wear, I was
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: talking to a friend, she's like, why do we come
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: back to Sydney and Australia and we're always in active wear?
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Or we're all just like not dressing up just for
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: the daytime.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Some celebrity that was talking about this and I can't
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: remember who it was and it was some like, more
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: mature woman who was like an.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Icon and she was like, I hate it when people
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: were active wear. She was like, stop wearing it everywhere.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: She's like, unless you go into the gym, don't wear it,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: which like I'm very much like a lover comfies evidently.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: And what about if you have a special event?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Like if you have a birthday or a wedding or
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: what can you do to elevate your outfit?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Where would you start?
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I think like way to go back to your question.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I am a huge believer in that. The outfit doesn't
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: just stop on the outfit. The outfit is about the
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: glam and about the whole look. Honestly, I like, I
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: work with Natalie Ann hair in Sydney a lot. And I,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: what she always says, she's like, you get so, you're
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: so hands-on and so excited by the hair and the glam.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Cause it does, it changes the look. So I think,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: especially for a wedding, I think I, I, A lot
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: of people will like get a dress, be like, oh no,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I'll just do the glam when I, because I'm in
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: a rush or they won't think about how the hair
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: and makeup is going to make the look. And it does.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: How would you like know what hair to do with
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: like what style? Like for example, if it's like a
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: high neck, like do you do a certain style?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I'm on Pinterest. So like I will literally like search
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: that dress and see what, who's, or find like a
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: celebrity that, I'm obsessed with and see what hair she's
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: done and then show that to my hairdresser because, like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: we're not hairdressers and, like, we're not makeup artists. But
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I think especially with makeup artists, like, I work with
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: so many, but you want to be able to show
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: them what you want. A big mistake is they'll sit
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: in the chair and be like, I just want to, like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I just want to be bronzy. But, like, what is that?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so vague.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: And that version of bronze. is so different to the
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: makeup artist to what you've got in your head. So
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I'm a visual person. I think you've got to be
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: able to have, save all the inspo.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: One thing that a makeup artist said to me, like
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: asked me recently was like, I like took an inspo
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: photo from Pinterest and then they went, do you have
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: any photos of like makeup on yourself that you really liked?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And like, can you show me that? And then show
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: me like makeup that maybe you didn't like and why.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: And honestly, what I do now is, yes you can
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: get inspo but go through the makeup artists that you've
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: booked and find something on their page that you love
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: it's like if someone books me to sell them and
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: they didn't like any of the styling on my page
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: i'm like what are we doing here yeah what am
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: i to find something on their page that you love
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: because then they'll work off that it's easier to do
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: that than to do a completely random.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Look how would you describe your style of styling.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I think mine's kind of like I'm a bit more
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: pulled back. A lot more, like, less is more. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: don't think you need to have everything in an outfit.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I think, like, if it doesn't need it, I won't
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: do it. Or, like, I like to edit. So, like,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: once the outfit's all together, I'll literally look at it
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: and be like, no, I hate it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Is it Coco Chanel or something? It's like, take one
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: thing off. Yeah. Is that it?
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, before you leave the house, take one thing off.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I just think, like, it doesn't, like, it can... If
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: everything makes sense in the look, that's going to be
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: stronger than having, say, every amazing thing you've found.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. How can people edit their outfits?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: I still kind of do. There's like a three-color rule
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: that I try to stick by. So if you use
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: three colors in the same scope, so if you use
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: like a pink, an orange, and a green in a look,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: but you just stick to those in the whole look.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: So if it's like a pale pink and then a
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: darker pink, it actually all does work. So sticking to
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: a three-color rule is great or I love a monochromatic look.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: So I wore a suit yesterday where everything was beige.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Not for everyone, but I think that's really strong and
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: it's not wearing like seven different colors, but not saying
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: that if you want to wear seven different colors, go crazy.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: But I think as a guide– The three-color look does
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: really help.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: What do you think about, like, the seasons and how
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: the color theory has, like, really popped off of being, like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I'm an autumn.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. And it does, like, I see, like, a
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: lot of– I do think it does work. I haven't
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: actually done mine yet. I probably should.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I'd be so invested to know what you are.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: But, like, I don't know.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Would you listen to it, though? Or would you be like,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to wear whatever I want?
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would take it on board, but, um,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I do like, I have known some people that are
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: so hard on it. Like, um, they'll be like, no, no, no,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I can't wear anything but burgundy. I'm like, Oh, okay. Like,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: or like, they'll just, it's, I'm just, I'm just a
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: warm color. And like, I think there is, there is
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: truth to it. So I don't know. Again, it's however
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: you feel in it. And I think that does help
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: put answers to why you feel better in some colors
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: and You know what I mean?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, 1,000%. There are colors that I'm like, yeah, that's
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the color. And then I'm like, there's colors that I'm like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: get it away.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Allergic.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: One thing that like I feel like I've fallen into
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: throughout my 20s especially was like buying clothes for like
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: a fantasy version of myself or like the different like
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: characters maybe that I wanted to be that wasn't actually
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: like the life I live or like who I am.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: And especially now we have so many things that it's like,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Mob wife.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Is that it? Yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Then like the clean girl and like so many different aesthetics,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: so many different like trends and so many different like
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: basically brands like sell you lifestyles now.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: They don't sell you clothes.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Like so how do you stop buying things for like
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: a different version of yourself?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Like how do you identify who that is?
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I think it's for me it's like I always try
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: for like a cost per wear. so especially for like
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: mob wife there were those really big fur jackets and
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: it was like where am i going to actually wear
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: it i think asking yourself like you'll try it on
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: and you'll feel oh my god this is so cool
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: and you'll be like this is amazing and you're looking
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: in the mirror and which.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Is great but then like bougie it's.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Like but where are you wearing it like yeah and
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: then it's like i i'm always like am i gonna
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: wear this like i'll try on a pair of jeans
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: that are like trying this pair of like acne jeans
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: that were like, I'm not going to be in New
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: York or I'm not going to be like, I'm where
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: am I actually going to, am I going to actually
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: wear these walking down Oxford street? Probably, but it's like
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: asking yourself how often, but then like, I don't know.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's, if it's a really expensive piece
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: from that aesthetic as well. I don't know. I just,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I think asking yourself how many times you're going to
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: wear it. And also like if it's, If it's going
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: to be something that you're going to pick up a
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: year from now, and some people do.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: And you have those friends, you're like, how do you
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: rock every single aesthetic?
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: You're like, what the fuck? I can't even wear that.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: But then, yeah, I don't know. I think it's just like,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: but then also if you, I'm contradicting myself, but if
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: you want to be in a mob wife era for
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: a week, do it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Like that's how you kind of figure out like what
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: you do and you don't like sometimes as well is
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: like going outside of your comfort zone a little bit.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Because they're at there there's gonna be outfits you look
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: at back on in like three months that you thought
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: you loved but.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: You might hate them oh my god that's me looking
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: looking at outfits when i was like in my.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: 20s i'm like what were you doing yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Like all those like instagram trends where it's like post
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: yourself from 10 years ago. And then you're looking at
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: what you're wearing from 10 years.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Couldn't pay me to.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I won't participate in that one. Speaking of,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: we already covered skinny jeans.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: So you know where we stand there, but as a
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: celebrity stylist, what's one fashion trend you would bring back
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: and what's one you would banish forever?
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: One that I would bring back. I like love, I
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: love everything. Like I'm just trying to think what I would,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: bring back anything from that 90s supermodel era yeah i
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: feel like it's already.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Coming back anything from the 90s is just like perfection literally.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Like yeah um what would i not want back at
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: all though do you remember those like two-tone jeans the
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: two-tone it was like the front was the front was
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: a different color to the back i had a pair
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: of those but.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah they can go they can go um.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: What else or like the um Suit shoes, those real
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: thick suit square toe shoes with like skinny jeans. I'm
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: really painting a picture of what I used to look like.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You're just reading yourself, Phil.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Or actually, do you remember those like block heels in like,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: that would be like electric blue. pink, that whole era of, like,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: the block heel. Yeah.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Stiletto king.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I love a point. What about you guys? What would you?
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: What would I banish forever? What do I hate?
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: The thing is it always comes back. So I'm like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: I say that, but then maybe in like two years,
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: all the bloom girls are wearing block heels.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I will say I'm not like a low, low rise
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: girl like that. I think I'm, I'm too old.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Like even like for me, kidding, really small kid in heels.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: I like, I know they're really chic, but I struggle.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I like a heel.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. They're like, we went to an event
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: yesterday though.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And we had a friend and she was wearing like,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: and I would, That's the thing is I would never
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: wear this outfit, but she looked incredible. She was wearing
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: this like cinch blazer, capris and a kitten heel. And
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I was like, I need to go home and get changed.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Like I was like, I need to level up here.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Like I was like, you look so good.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Then you go try it on and you're like, this
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: is not me.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I couldn't like, I know that we're saying, we're like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: we need to stop saying that. But I'm like, I,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: it's not an outfit for me. Like I wouldn't enjoy
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: myself in that. But looking at someone else, I'm like,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you look incredible, which I think like that's such.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: A good, point to get to of being.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Like i don't have to wear everything i don't have
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: to wear every single thing that's in like the new
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: arrivals or that is trending or that is like the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: it piece but.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Also in the same breath try it at least even
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: if you don't have to wear it just try it
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: on once like so many people don't try things.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And you might end up loving it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: You might like a lot of my clients that i
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: styled i never like one of the biggest things they'll
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: say is i never would have picked this and like
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: the whole like looking in the mirror and that's why
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I love what I do it's that like second look
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: when you look back in the mirror and you're like
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: I look so fucking good but that's that moment where
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: you're like fuck yeah like that's why you should.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Wear clothes do you know what my favourite feeling in
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: the world is is when you don't have your makeup
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: done you don't have your hair done you don't have
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: a fake tan on and.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: You feel amazing and you like the outfit you're like
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: this is gonna.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Hit I have that many fitting photos that we'll like
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: take a photo and we'll be obsessed with the outfit
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: and we're both just like If it looks this good now,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: imagine when it's all done and like with like nice lighting.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: You're like, I'm going to be too powerful.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I want to play a quick little game to wrap up.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Style or skip.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you like outfits or trends
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: or products and you can tell us whether or not
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: you would skip it.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Or you'd style it. You'd love it.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Skinny jeans.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Skip.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Ballet flats.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Style.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Ooh. Is there a specific type of ballet flats?
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: The ones that– I like the two-tone ones. Pretty much
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: anything from the new Chanel.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: It's very Gossip Girl.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: It's so Gossip Girl.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Capris.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Ooh, skip.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Ooh, low rise.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, a style.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Ooh, what about high rise?
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Skip.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Really? I'm too old.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like I would– I need my high rise.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, statement belts.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Style.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Matching sets.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Style.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Leopard print.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Style. I love leopard.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like we need to play around with animal
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: prints more.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: I literally like, I love animal print. Same.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: It's a neutral to me.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: I have so much animal print coming in. My look's
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: coming up. So I love it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: What are some of the like upcoming trends that you
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: reckon we'll be obsessed with in the near future?
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: I think animal prints one for sure. And color. I
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: think color is a really big one. Mixing metals. I
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: used to always be really shy away from it, but
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: mixing silver and gold, I think it's really cool.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I love that too, yeah. And also, then I feel
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: like I wear more of my jewelry too if I
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: And I kind of think watches are coming back.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: And I used to be a big watch guy, but
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: now the moment you start to look at them and
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: take a second look, I'm like, they're coming back.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's a very grown up purchase and
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: like piece to have. I feel like when I get
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: a watch, I'll know I've got my shit together. If
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I'm wearing a watch, like best believe it's for the look.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Not because I need it for the time.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have a battery in it. Yeah.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't, I wouldn't even know how to read it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, what's that? No, it's okay.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Don't even worry about it.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: We have like a little Mickey Mouse one.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Well, Paul, thank you so much for coming on the show.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: But before we let you go, for any of the
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: chicks who don't already, where can they find you and
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: follow you?
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: So on Instagram, it's styled by Bloom underscore. And then
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: on TikTok, it's Paul Versace.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. It's been so much fun.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: It's been wonderful.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And thanks to you chicks for having us in your
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: new halls. We love to be here.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Bye. Bye.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Bye.