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- 0:55Speaker 5: I'm Wes Carrol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean
- 0:58Speaker 5: cruising from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Sign Center.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Morning Sean, A good morning West. Good to be here today.
- 1:06Speaker 5: We had a pretty cool almost event. I mean, it
- 1:09Speaker 5: was a cool event anyway, but it was kind of
- 1:14Speaker 5: going to be a little bit cooler, I guess as
- 1:17Speaker 5: a starship had another launch and SpaceX was ready to
- 1:22Speaker 5: catch it in the little chopsticks as a demonstration with
- 1:28Speaker 5: some VIPs that were nearby to watch the event, and
- 1:32Speaker 5: it was being carried on live TV, and it was
- 1:34Speaker 5: sort of that double whammy of like, okay, the former
- 1:40Speaker 5: and future president, the President elect Trump was there on
- 1:44Speaker 5: site to watch all of this, Watch the launch, watch
- 1:47Speaker 5: the catch. He'd been talking about it obviously during some
- 1:52Speaker 5: of his rallies and speeches with Elon Musk there and
- 1:55Speaker 5: just talking about how brilliant he was and this amazing
- 1:58Speaker 5: thing that they were able to do at SpaceX. So
- 2:00Speaker 5: the fact that it had that extra not to mention
- 2:04Speaker 5: the fact that it's just a cool thing to see happen. Anyway,
- 2:08Speaker 5: for folks that haven't seen it yet, they should watch
- 2:10Speaker 5: the first time that this feat was accomplished. But this
- 2:14Speaker 5: was the next attempt at doing that. They were going
- 2:16Speaker 5: to catch it with the chopstick arms right there in
- 2:18Speaker 5: front of the President elect kind of show it off.
- 2:20Speaker 5: So this was being covered on you know, live news networks.
- 2:23Speaker 5: It wasn't just you had to go to NASA TV
- 2:26Speaker 5: or you had to go to the Space Extreme or anything.
- 2:29Speaker 5: This is one of those deals where just you know,
- 2:31Speaker 5: the news was carrying it. They were breaking into their
- 2:34Speaker 5: programming so we could see this super heavy get caught.
- 2:38Speaker 5: And then it didn't get caught, and they said, oh,
- 2:41Speaker 5: it's apparently not going to go to the chopsticks. So
- 2:46Speaker 5: what do we know about what happened? Like what went wrong?
- 2:49Speaker 5: And and you know, what's the story there.
- 2:52Speaker 3: Well, so, first of all, you gave an excellent introduction,
- 2:56Speaker 3: You set it up in an outstanding way. I have
- 2:59Speaker 3: my own twisted introduction that I would like to add
- 3:01Speaker 3: to that, which is simply, I have this vision of
- 3:04Speaker 3: you know, Don and Elon hanging out backstage at a
- 3:08Speaker 3: political rally or something, or maybe at a bar, and
- 3:11Speaker 3: Elon says to Don, hey, you know I can catch
- 3:14Speaker 3: a rock with a pair of chopsticks. Don says I'd
- 3:18Speaker 3: like to see that. Sure he would, Yeah, Well, come
- 3:22Speaker 3: on down to Texas. I'll show you.
- 3:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 3:24Speaker 3: In fact, I did it back in October and Don said, yeah,
- 3:29Speaker 3: I think I'd like to do that something like that.
- 3:32Speaker 3: Do you think that conversation could happen.
- 3:33Speaker 5: I'm not really sure, entirely possible that that happened. And
- 3:38Speaker 5: you know, because when you heard the now president elect
- 3:42Speaker 5: talking about it on the campaign, I mean that's kind
- 3:45Speaker 5: of similar to how he sort of described it. I mean,
- 3:48Speaker 5: just hey, he's catching that thing with chopsticks. So that
- 3:53Speaker 5: was the plan, and he was there, and there were
- 3:55Speaker 5: some others that were there with him, other VIPs, waiting
- 3:59Speaker 5: to watch this all play out, and it actually caused
- 4:02Speaker 5: me to run into the next room to you know,
- 4:05Speaker 5: get the TV on one of the news channels for
- 4:07Speaker 5: the boys and say, hey, he's about to do this.
- 4:09Speaker 5: It's about to happen right now. And then it landed
- 4:13Speaker 5: in the ocean.
- 4:16Speaker 3: I mean, as it does sometimes, right, I mean, you know,
- 4:18Speaker 3: when you're when you're trying to catch rockets with chopsticks,
- 4:21Speaker 3: you're going to drop a couple in the ocean. Let's
- 4:23Speaker 3: just be fair.
- 4:24Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. It happens. I mean, that's the way
- 4:27Speaker 5: everybody used to do it. They just dropped them in
- 4:29Speaker 5: the ocean.
- 4:30Speaker 3: That was the plan all along, back in the day.
- 4:32Speaker 3: The very fact that stilled the plan all along for
- 4:34Speaker 3: SLS by the way.
- 4:35Speaker 5: Yeah, and the very fact that it's even on the
- 4:38Speaker 5: table to catch it with chopsticks and use it again,
- 4:41Speaker 5: even if it's only, you know, one out of one
- 4:43Speaker 5: hundred times, that's still an accomplishment.
- 4:47Speaker 3: You know, if the wind's just right, we're going to
- 4:49Speaker 3: catch this baby with a pair of chopsticks.
- 4:52Speaker 5: More than one out of one hundred times. So it
- 4:57Speaker 5: came down, and then immediately the particular news channel that
- 5:01Speaker 5: I was watching at the time said, well, they're gonna
- 5:03Speaker 5: have to haul that thing out of the Gulf of Mexico,
- 5:05Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't think that's how that works,
- 5:07Speaker 5: is it. I mean they don't were.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Not aware that they're retrieving the rocket out of the
- 5:12Speaker 3: Gulf of Mexican.
- 5:12Speaker 5: I mean I've tried to lift like a you know,
- 5:15Speaker 5: if you've ever like tried to lift a wet pair
- 5:17Speaker 5: of jeans out of a like a tub of water
- 5:20Speaker 5: that's kind of heavy, you know, just just to whip
- 5:25Speaker 5: that was the whole thing when they do those, Like
- 5:26Speaker 5: if you fall in the water and you might be drowning,
- 5:29Speaker 5: take the jeans off first. They're heavy in the water. Uh,
- 5:33Speaker 5: this is this is a rocket booster. How are they
- 5:35Speaker 5: gonna get it out of the water. I don't understand
- 5:37Speaker 5: that at all. But you know, I didn't know how
- 5:39Speaker 5: they could catch it with chopsticks. I don't know what
- 5:41Speaker 5: all they can do with those chopsticks.
- 5:43Speaker 3: They can do a lot of things with those chopsticks.
- 5:45Speaker 3: My friend, I mean, Bruce Lee could catch a fly
- 5:48Speaker 3: with a pair of chopsticks. There's a lot of things
- 5:51Speaker 3: that can be done with chopsticks, you know. I guess
- 5:54Speaker 3: it's my role on this podcast to be sort of
- 5:56Speaker 3: the serious more like Space newsy person, and I've clearly
- 6:00Speaker 3: not been in that role. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna
- 6:02Speaker 3: try to swing back around and give some serious analysis
- 6:06Speaker 3: to this situation that's taking place in Texas. So, first
- 6:09Speaker 3: of all, this is the biggest and most powerful rocket
- 6:12Speaker 3: ever built, bigger, more powerful than, yes, the mighty Saturn
- 6:18Speaker 3: five that took people to the surface of the Moon
- 6:21Speaker 3: back in the nineteen sixties. That's already crazy, right. This
- 6:25Speaker 3: thing is only in two pieces, fundamentally, a booster that's
- 6:30Speaker 3: the bottom part with the big engines that gets the
- 6:32Speaker 3: thing off the ground, and a ship, which is the
- 6:36Speaker 3: big shiny part on top, which, by the way, the
- 6:40Speaker 3: ship itself is larger than the Space Shuttle, so it's
- 6:44Speaker 3: not small. What happens is the big rocket launches with
- 6:49Speaker 3: these two parts on it, and ship goes flying off
- 6:53Speaker 3: and travels halfway around the world and lands somewhere in
- 6:56Speaker 3: the Indian Ocean for now at least, while booster the
- 7:00Speaker 3: lower part comes back down either in the Gulf of
- 7:04Speaker 3: Mexico or on one glorious moment back in October on
- 7:09Speaker 3: the thirteenth, SpaceX actually landed Starship's huge first stage booster
- 7:16Speaker 3: called the super heavy booster back at the launch tower
- 7:20Speaker 3: between two giant mechanized arms that SpaceX refers to as Mechazilla,
- 7:29Speaker 3: but the arms themselves have been colloquially named chopstick arms.
- 7:37Speaker 3: And these two chopstick arms are able to grab that
- 7:41Speaker 3: re entering booster as we saw on October thirteenth, out
- 7:44Speaker 3: of mid air, so that it doesn't have to have
- 7:47Speaker 3: landing gear, so you save all of the weight of landing.
- 7:54Speaker 3: But then if you can catch your booster out of
- 7:57Speaker 3: mid air, it's actually much more ready for a quick
- 8:03Speaker 3: turnaround fueling, being put back on the launch pad and
- 8:07Speaker 3: ready to launch another ship starship into orbit potentially. So
- 8:13Speaker 3: that's why they're even practicing trying to catch the main
- 8:18Speaker 3: stage booster with the giant chopstick arms of the Mechazilla mechanism.
- 8:24Speaker 3: So Trump said, yeah, yeah, I think I'd like to
- 8:26Speaker 3: see that. So he went down there and was there.
- 8:30Speaker 3: There are internet rumors, shall we say that the reason
- 8:34Speaker 3: they didn't try to catch it was because Trump was
- 8:37Speaker 3: there and they just couldn't endanger the future president. I
- 8:41Speaker 3: think their safety protocols really don't want to injure anyone
- 8:45Speaker 3: at SpaceX.
- 8:46Speaker 5: Yeah, that seems like, I mean, the goal would be
- 8:53Speaker 5: for this to all happen without injuring anyone. And I
- 8:57Speaker 5: can't imagine that the first time that they called this thing,
- 9:00Speaker 5: they would have done it if there was any danger
- 9:03Speaker 5: to anyone there who wasn't about to be sworn in
- 9:06Speaker 5: as president in January, so right, you know. But so
- 9:10Speaker 5: they actually activated the uh, they had to hit a
- 9:14Speaker 5: button to send it out.
- 9:15Speaker 3: So here's what happened. So it's coming in, it's returning
- 9:18Speaker 3: back to the tower, and as it's returning in, the
- 9:22Speaker 3: parameters are a little bit off. The speed at which
- 9:25Speaker 3: it's entering, the angle of a cent, it's distance out
- 9:30Speaker 3: from the tower. These are all things that they're looking
- 9:33Speaker 3: at that they have to hit just right in order
- 9:35Speaker 3: for the parameters to be correct, to hit it and
- 9:40Speaker 3: catch it. And so what was reported was the flight data.
- 9:46Speaker 3: This is a quote, by the way from SpaceX. The
- 9:50Speaker 3: flight data didn't support an attempt unquote. And then later
- 9:58Speaker 3: Dan Howt, who is the one of the company's representatives
- 10:02Speaker 3: for flight six, he's a SpaceX webcaster, he says, we
- 10:07Speaker 3: tripped a commit criteria. Now I have not seen where
- 10:12Speaker 3: they've reported which commit criteria that they tripped. But it's
- 10:16Speaker 3: going to be one of those parameters we just discussed,
- 10:20Speaker 3: how fast it's coming in, how far away it is
- 10:24Speaker 3: from the tower, what its angle of attack is, because
- 10:26Speaker 3: remember as that booster re enters, it turns sideways to
- 10:31Speaker 3: help slow it down as it's re entering as part
- 10:33Speaker 3: of its braking system. Before then it turns vertical again
- 10:38Speaker 3: and it's able to approach the tower. So something was
- 10:40Speaker 3: just off. One of those parameters was just off. They
- 10:43Speaker 3: didn't hit it quite right, and so as a safety
- 10:47Speaker 3: mechan well as the first order of safety mechanism, they
- 10:51Speaker 3: can just simply let it fall into the Gulf of Mexico.
- 10:55Speaker 3: And as Wes said, this is what happens with many rockets.
- 10:58Speaker 3: They re enter into the ocean, so it's nothing that
- 11:01Speaker 3: out of the ordinary. And so that's what they did.
- 11:03Speaker 3: They did a controlled splash down into the Gulf of
- 11:06Speaker 3: Mexico instead of trying to bring it back and grab
- 11:09Speaker 3: it with the Mechazilla chopsticks.
- 11:12Speaker 5: I mean, is it possible that they were extra sensitive
- 11:17Speaker 5: to having VIPs nearby? Certainly, but does that mean that
- 11:21Speaker 5: that was the specific reason.
- 11:23Speaker 1: No.
- 11:24Speaker 5: You you mentioned not having to have the landing gear
- 11:27Speaker 5: on it. Obviously weight, And I was going to ask
- 11:30Speaker 5: this question about why why they do this with this
- 11:33Speaker 5: particular rocket rather than what they typically do when they
- 11:36Speaker 5: try to you know, land them back, you know, vertically
- 11:40Speaker 5: on the platform. But obviously weight is everything when you're
- 11:43Speaker 5: trying to launch a rocket as big as this thing is, right, that's.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Correct well, and even for small rockets, right, the the
- 11:50Speaker 3: most important element of spaceflight payloads is what is the
- 11:56Speaker 3: carrying capacity of the vehicle that's going to take you
- 11:59Speaker 3: to space. So when you begin to develop a oh,
- 12:02Speaker 3: I don't know, a rover for another planet, or a
- 12:05Speaker 3: communication satellite, or any kind of payload that's going to
- 12:09Speaker 3: go into space, you have to know that you have
- 12:13Speaker 3: critically assessed all of the correct weight requirements for your payload,
- 12:18Speaker 3: and you want to make those You want to make
- 12:20Speaker 3: your payload as light as you possibly can, because the
- 12:25Speaker 3: costs increase exponentially for launching your payload to space based
- 12:31Speaker 3: on the increase in weight, and eventually they can become
- 12:35Speaker 3: so large, or the weight can become so large that
- 12:37Speaker 3: there simply isn't a launch vehicle out there at all.
- 12:41Speaker 3: And so when you're talking about the massive, the most
- 12:43Speaker 3: massive rockets, they're designed to launch the most massive payloads
- 12:47Speaker 3: where weight matters the absolute most. And so that's why
- 12:52Speaker 3: if you can get rid of all of that landing
- 12:54Speaker 3: gear and the kinds of things that would require that
- 12:58Speaker 3: booster to have stability when you're actually coming back and
- 13:00Speaker 3: landing it on the ground, if you don't need that,
- 13:03Speaker 3: if you can just catch it with a pair of chopsticks,
- 13:06Speaker 3: then then you save all of that weight and you
- 13:09Speaker 3: and that weight turns into payload capacity. So that's a
- 13:12Speaker 3: very very important factor.
- 13:14Speaker 5: And uh, a plush banana is uh what was the
- 13:18Speaker 5: significance of the banana other than it was just obviously
- 13:21Speaker 5: to be the zero gravity and heitter do we know
- 13:23Speaker 5: why they picked a banana?
- 13:26Speaker 3: Nope? I mean, why does Elon Musk do what he does?
- 13:30Speaker 6: I don't really know.
- 13:31Speaker 3: But anyways, Yeah, the very first ever Starship payload was
- 13:37Speaker 3: a plush banana and so not our natural banana. No
- 13:42Speaker 3: actual bananas were harmed in flight six. It's it's important
- 13:46Speaker 3: to get that out to the public.
- 13:48Speaker 5: That's true. You have to stress that's very very important.
- 13:50Speaker 5: You don't want to get anyone upset about the bananas.
- 13:53Speaker 3: By the way, the folks at Spaceflight now dot Com,
- 13:55Speaker 3: where I pulled most of the information for my story here.
- 13:58Speaker 3: They also wanted to make the point that the plush
- 14:00Speaker 3: banana was not actually deployed into space.
- 14:03Speaker 5: Which is important considering there is a Tesla roadster flying
- 14:07Speaker 5: through space right So, I mean, we have to make
- 14:09Speaker 5: sure people know it is possible that the banana would
- 14:14Speaker 5: have been launched into space. It was not in this case.
- 14:17Speaker 5: But again, were there not a Tesla roadster just flying
- 14:21Speaker 5: through space right now, which is really at some point
- 14:25Speaker 5: potentially going to confuse some sort of alien race that's
- 14:28Speaker 5: going to come upon it and say, this guy's not
- 14:32Speaker 5: moving in this car. We don't like, what's the Is
- 14:35Speaker 5: this the way that they and they'll be very confused
- 14:38Speaker 5: if they see it, and then they come to Earth
- 14:40Speaker 5: and see us driving around in one and then think, wow,
- 14:43Speaker 5: these things go into space as well. So the potential
- 14:47Speaker 5: there is for a great payoff in the future, possibly
- 14:50Speaker 5: way after we're long gone. So it is important to
- 14:53Speaker 5: make sure to let everybody know they did not launch
- 14:56Speaker 5: the banana into space.
- 15:00Speaker 3: I mean it did launch, it just didn't get deployed
- 15:02Speaker 3: like a satellite.
- 15:03Speaker 5: Yeah no, but I mean they didn't. I mean, when
- 15:05Speaker 5: I say they didn't launch it. They didn't like fire
- 15:07Speaker 5: it out of a tube like you know, Spock's body
- 15:10Speaker 5: or whatever.
- 15:10Speaker 3: They didn't. Yeah, exactly, that's right. So you know, for
- 15:13Speaker 3: those people, you know, for those people who are in
- 15:16Speaker 3: the Space Force, they used to be in the Air Force,
- 15:19Speaker 3: but now they're in the Space Force, and they're out
- 15:20Speaker 3: in the prairies of Colorado, just outside the great City
- 15:24Speaker 3: of Colorado Springs, and they're out at the station where
- 15:26Speaker 3: they track space debris. Don't worry about any plush bananas
- 15:30Speaker 3: at this time. I think that's the biggest that's the
- 15:33Speaker 3: biggest public service announcement so far in this story is
- 15:37Speaker 3: that the folks that are tracking space debris, which can
- 15:40Speaker 3: be hazardous to many of our payloads that we put
- 15:42Speaker 3: in space, or the astronauts themselves on the Space station,
- 15:46Speaker 3: they don't have to they don't have to worry about
- 15:47Speaker 3: being struck by a plush banana traveling at approximately twenty
- 15:51Speaker 3: five thousand miles an hour. That plush banana came back
- 15:54Speaker 3: down into the Indian Ocean with the Starship ship and
- 15:59Speaker 3: did a re entry. It was not deployed into space. Friends,
- 16:02Speaker 3: So we just want to make sure.
- 16:04Speaker 5: Yeah, and it won't be anything for farmers to keep
- 16:06Speaker 5: an eye out for. But we'll have a story about
- 16:08Speaker 5: what they do need to keep an eye out for
- 16:10Speaker 5: coming up in just a few First, let's talk about
- 16:12Speaker 5: optus X. What is optus X?
- 16:16Speaker 3: Oh, it's another thing from SpaceX. Wes uh huh. I mean,
- 16:23Speaker 3: if the sarcasm is high today, friends, it's because there's
- 16:26Speaker 3: a lot of Internet buzz. If you put the search
- 16:29Speaker 3: term Elon Musk into any web browser right now, there's
- 16:34Speaker 3: a lot of things out there's a lot of stuff.
- 16:38Speaker 3: And you know, I heard he's associated with that SpaceX
- 16:41Speaker 3: Company's I think there's some kind of direct connection between
- 16:44Speaker 3: Elon Musk and SpaceX.
- 16:46Speaker 1: I believe.
- 16:48Speaker 5: Yeah, we we hadn't really planned to talk about this,
- 16:50Speaker 5: but and at some point maybe it. I'm sure it's
- 16:53Speaker 5: going to be a big story if it's but I mean,
- 16:56Speaker 5: the fact that he's going to be involved in any
- 16:59Speaker 5: way in the next administration next year will certainly be
- 17:04Speaker 5: fodder for But he's got all these government contracts, so
- 17:08Speaker 5: I mean, there's going to be some of I know
- 17:10Speaker 5: it's already kind of been brought up, but once he
- 17:13Speaker 5: starts cutting funds from certain people, they're really gonna start
- 17:16Speaker 5: raising those questions. But anyway, that's another discussion for another time.
- 17:19Speaker 5: But we've talked many times on past shows radio and
- 17:23Speaker 5: here when an administration changes, when there's a new administration
- 17:27Speaker 5: that comes in, there's always some things that take place.
- 17:29Speaker 5: There's always like a transition of things. But NASA tries
- 17:33Speaker 5: to make sure that they're able to be compliant with whatever,
- 17:37Speaker 5: no matter who's in there. And but this is just
- 17:40Speaker 5: a this is an interesting little thing that's kind of
- 17:43Speaker 5: hanging out there that could become an issue.
- 17:46Speaker 3: Yeah, So just for those keeping score and their little books,
- 17:51Speaker 3: he's not actually under current government contracts. He already received
- 17:55Speaker 3: the money right to do a job, which he's already done.
- 18:00Speaker 3: That is true.
- 18:03Speaker 5: Just a small point anyway, all right, that's a great
- 18:05Speaker 5: point to make for the people that are going to
- 18:07Speaker 5: start digging into that. But I'm sure that at some
- 18:10Speaker 5: point in the future there may be other contracts that
- 18:12Speaker 5: he'd like to be involved in.
- 18:13Speaker 3: So and maybe among our listeners there aren't many of
- 18:17Speaker 3: those people. Thank you, listeners, Yeah, thank you, yeah, just
- 18:21Speaker 3: thank you. All right. So from space flight Now another
- 18:24Speaker 3: story off this x SO. It involves SpaceX SO on
- 18:27Speaker 3: November seventeenth, which is since the last time we did
- 18:30Speaker 3: a podcast here, SpaceX launched a mysterious payload into space
- 18:35Speaker 3: what some people claim was a communications.
- 18:38Speaker 5: Satellite, others claim it was a plush banana.
- 18:42Speaker 6: It might have been a red cherry red Tesla roadster
- 18:45Speaker 6: for all we know. Who knows what it actually was,
- 18:49Speaker 6: but some sort of mysterious payload. But apparently in the
- 18:53Speaker 6: inner communications of SpaceX themselves, they called the mission TD seven.
- 19:00Speaker 6: Now that sounds like a reference to John Elway number
- 19:04Speaker 6: seven throwing touchdowns. That's what I would infer it to be.
- 19:07Speaker 6: And for those of you who don't know who John
- 19:09Speaker 6: Elway is, just googled. All right, thank you for your
- 19:11Speaker 6: younger listeners.
- 19:12Speaker 3: By the way, but the payload was launched from Kennedy
- 19:16Speaker 3: Space Center, launched Complex thirty nine A, and the space
- 19:20Speaker 3: commentator referred to it as a communications satellite during the
- 19:27Speaker 3: live stream of what SpaceX internally called the mission as
- 19:32Speaker 3: TD seven. However, here's where it gets mysterious. Friends. However,
- 19:39Speaker 3: all the regulatory filings and the US government agencies like
- 19:43Speaker 3: the Space Force and the Federal Aviation Administration, in all
- 19:48Speaker 3: of their paperwork, they called this payload Ready Ready optus X.
- 19:57Speaker 5: That's right.
- 19:57Speaker 3: I said it Optus X straight out of a nineteen
- 20:02Speaker 3: seventies James Bond movie or a new Transformer.
- 20:06Speaker 5: I don't know, satellite that transforms into a robot that
- 20:09Speaker 5: could work. I don't know.
- 20:11Speaker 3: I'm not talking Daniel Craig. I am talking Roger Moore. Friends,
- 20:16Speaker 3: it's too cheesy for Sean Connery. Roger Moore. Optus X.
- 20:21Speaker 3: Probably some innuendo buried in Optus X. Souther it would
- 20:24Speaker 3: be yeah, yeah, So Optus X is what the is
- 20:29Speaker 3: what the mission is called by some people. So SpaceX, though,
- 20:33Speaker 3: has been shroud well, this is according to Spaceflight noow
- 20:37Speaker 3: dot com. They use these words SpaceX has been shrouded.
- 20:41Speaker 3: It has been shrouding the mission in secrecy to the
- 20:44Speaker 3: point of not disclosing any specifics of the mission and
- 20:49Speaker 3: not using its original name. I don't know which one
- 20:53Speaker 3: of those is the original name. I think maybe Optus X.
- 20:56Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 20:57Speaker 5: That's a good question, because.
- 20:59Speaker 3: SpaceX is calling it TV seven the John Elway Mission,
- 21:06Speaker 3: So here we have it.
- 21:07Speaker 5: Friends, that's very different than TB twelve in the Tom
- 21:10Speaker 5: Brady mission.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Right, Maybe they have that as another secret innundo code
- 21:17Speaker 3: name for one of their other missions shrouded in secrecy.
- 21:20Speaker 3: I'm not aware of TV twelve. Yeah, but it would
- 21:22Speaker 3: be a good one. We should suggest it, you know.
- 21:25Speaker 5: It's it's there's a there's some of those quarterbacks you
- 21:28Speaker 5: just throw their initials and a number in there or whatever.
- 21:30Speaker 5: But so we don't know what it is. We don't
- 21:33Speaker 5: know what the mission is. Uh and is that something
- 21:36Speaker 5: that we're ever going to know or was it just
- 21:39Speaker 5: going to be that? It's just yeah, what.
- 21:43Speaker 7: We love is speculation, right right, So there's Internet speculation, friends,
- 21:48Speaker 7: and some have speculated out on the Internet regarding opt
- 21:52Speaker 7: to sex spacecraft in its origins, and they have leaned
- 21:55Speaker 7: toward the fact that.
- 21:56Speaker 3: It's a fulfillment of a contract between North Grumming, another
- 22:02Speaker 3: company called Space Logistics, and a mission called the Mission
- 22:08Speaker 3: Robotic Vehicle that's not a very creative name. The MRV
- 22:14Speaker 3: spacecraft on behalf of the Ready Ready Optus Networks Priorty
- 22:20Speaker 3: Limited Optus Networks Party Limited, a company that gets abbreviated
- 22:25Speaker 3: as Optus that's an Australian telecommunications company.
- 22:29Speaker 5: We s, what do you know, I'm I'm familiar. I
- 22:33Speaker 5: didn't immediately think of that when I heard of Optus X.
- 22:38Speaker 3: You see because they got Optus in their name, right. Yeah,
- 22:41Speaker 3: I didn't think of what we're doing here. Yeah, I
- 22:43Speaker 3: didn't think of that as a you know, I didn't
- 22:45Speaker 3: think of them immediately. But now I feel silly. I
- 22:48Speaker 3: just feel silly. Why didn't I think of them? However,
- 22:52Speaker 3: spaceflight now dot Com has reported that no, no, no,
- 22:56Speaker 3: Sunday's mission is not the execution of that contract between
- 23:02Speaker 3: Northrop Grumman Space Logistics, Optus, the Australian Community Telecommunity Educations Company,
- 23:10Speaker 3: and SpaceX. So they're reporting no. So I'm going to
- 23:14Speaker 3: have to just say that as of today the recording
- 23:16Speaker 3: of this podcast, the mystery remains, friends, what is Optus X?
- 23:24Speaker 5: We don't know a couple things. One, Optus isn't doing
- 23:27Speaker 5: a great job of their marketing as directed at Americans
- 23:31Speaker 5: married to Australians who've immigrated to American become American citizens
- 23:36Speaker 5: who occasionally go back and visit Australia. Two, I walked
- 23:41Speaker 5: all over your James Bond joke and I messed up.
- 23:42Speaker 5: I'm sorry about that. I was trying to get in
- 23:44Speaker 5: my Transformer reference and I just walked all over it.
- 23:48Speaker 5: Coming up after a quick break, we're going to talk
- 23:51Speaker 5: about if you're a farmer in North Georgia, really anywhere
- 23:58Speaker 5: your help is needed. We'll talk about that next. All right.
- 24:15Speaker 5: So I said they're looking for farmers in Georgia, but
- 24:18Speaker 5: they're really they're they're looking for I guess a widespread
- 24:22Speaker 5: pan of farmers. It's not just farmers in North Georgia.
- 24:25Speaker 5: But they want some help concerning solar activity. And but
- 24:30Speaker 5: the folks at spaceweather dot com are wanting to hear
- 24:33Speaker 5: from farmers, right.
- 24:35Speaker 3: Yeah, from farmers. Well, and that's unusual, right, Why would
- 24:38Speaker 3: the folks at spaceweather dot com, a sun activity monitoring website,
- 24:44Speaker 3: why would they want to talk to farmers. Well, here's why, friends, Because,
- 24:48Speaker 3: as we've reported on this show many times, when you
- 24:51Speaker 3: have the most powerful types of solar flares, maybe not
- 24:54Speaker 3: the most powerful, but the most powerful class of solar flares,
- 24:58Speaker 3: let's put it that way, when you have those kinds
- 25:01Speaker 3: of storms occasionally occurring, they can eject so much material
- 25:07Speaker 3: from the Sun's surface that it comes into effect the
- 25:11Speaker 3: atmosphere of the Earth and the magnetic field of the
- 25:14Speaker 3: Earth in such a way that those things can actually
- 25:16Speaker 3: be overloaded a bit, and you can actually have interference
- 25:21Speaker 3: between the solar radiation and electronics that human beings have created,
- 25:26Speaker 3: both in space and on the ground. Now, farmers friends
- 25:33Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four make great use of what we
- 25:37Speaker 3: call the Internet of Things IoT. They deploy IoT devices
- 25:44Speaker 3: throughout their fields to help them keep track of weather conditions, humidity,
- 25:49Speaker 3: mostly rainfall, and water irrigation amounts so that they can
- 25:53Speaker 3: monitor their crops carefully by the use of technology. Well,
- 25:57Speaker 3: these are often GPS guided systems. There are also other
- 26:02Speaker 3: kinds of agricultural systems that are GPS guided. One could
- 26:06Speaker 3: think of robotic tractors or things like that that might
- 26:11Speaker 3: be perusing the fields based on some kind of a
- 26:13Speaker 3: GPS signal, so they can have highly precise locations of
- 26:17Speaker 3: those devices. Okay, well, whatever those are, farmers, we know
- 26:21Speaker 3: we have a lot of farmers that love the show
- 26:22Speaker 3: and listen. Thank you, farmers. We're glad to have you here.
- 26:26Speaker 5: We appreciate you and all of your hard work. Yes,
- 26:30Speaker 5: and keeping our bellies full.
- 26:32Speaker 3: Food supply is an important part of space travel.
- 26:35Speaker 5: And all of the peaches and all of the peanuts
- 26:39Speaker 5: peaches that probably aren't clingstone if you're in Georgia, but
- 26:42Speaker 5: that's okay, but that's you know, that's another issue altogether.
- 26:47Speaker 5: Hey fuzzy, but you know the all of the nuts,
- 26:51Speaker 5: the peanuts and the like and the light yeah all.
- 26:58Speaker 3: That so or the apples their North Chorgia, right, which
- 27:01Speaker 3: get dehydrated and sent into space and meals ready to
- 27:05Speaker 3: eat anyway, So all of these things listen, in all seriousness,
- 27:08Speaker 3: if you know a farmer, or if you are a
- 27:10Speaker 3: farmer and you've had GPS issues because of space weather,
- 27:17Speaker 3: doctor Tonyphillips at spaceweather dot com wants to hear from you. Now,
- 27:21Speaker 3: this is serious. We like to joke on the show,
- 27:24Speaker 3: but this is actually a serious thing. Doctor Tony Phillips
- 27:27Speaker 3: is doing a survey among farmers to see how much
- 27:30Speaker 3: interference that they're in very important equipment that's tied to
- 27:34Speaker 3: our country's food supply. How much interference is actually being
- 27:39Speaker 3: caused by solar phenomenon during this particular solar max. It's
- 27:44Speaker 3: the solar maximum, the maximum period of activity on the Sun.
- 27:48Speaker 3: It's the solar maximum that is occurring during the time
- 27:52Speaker 3: period where humanity is employed more technology than ever before
- 27:58Speaker 3: to help grow crops and to feed people. So if
- 28:02Speaker 3: you think about that, and you think about the potential
- 28:04Speaker 3: interference caused by the magnetic cycle of the Sun and
- 28:08Speaker 3: its many solar flares and interactions. We call those geomagnetic
- 28:13Speaker 3: storms interactions with the Earth's magnetic field. And by the way,
- 28:17Speaker 3: just quick side note here, we've had a couple of doozies.
- 28:20Speaker 3: Right back on May to tenth, we saw northern lights
- 28:23Speaker 3: from Columbus, Georgia, actually they saw them all the way
- 28:26Speaker 3: down to southern Puerto Rico, and again on October tenth, strangely,
- 28:31Speaker 3: strangely same day anyway, So October ten, it's not really
- 28:35Speaker 3: that strange. It's just a coincidence. But anyway, we happen
- 28:38Speaker 3: to see those both on the tenth of day of
- 28:40Speaker 3: the month. But in two months here in twenty twenty four,
- 28:43Speaker 3: so we know that even as far south as Georgia,
- 28:46Speaker 3: solar activity and its interaction with Earth's geomagnetic sphere is
- 28:51Speaker 3: really causing some effects even where we live. So farmers,
- 28:56Speaker 3: once again, check out spaceweather dot com, contact dot Tony
- 29:00Speaker 3: Phillips and communicate all of your GPS agricultural equipment woes
- 29:05Speaker 3: that may have been caused by space weather to doctor Tony.
- 29:09Speaker 3: So that he can catalog that and help to study
- 29:11Speaker 3: the effects of space weather right here on the service
- 29:14Speaker 3: of the Earth.
- 29:15Speaker 5: So like Aurora happened and we were able to see
- 29:22Speaker 5: obviously this phenomenon that took place, as you pointed out,
- 29:25Speaker 5: those two days five months apart, the places that normally
- 29:31Speaker 5: get to see Aurora, I guess just couldn't stand it.
- 29:34Speaker 5: So in Norway just to say, well, fine, you have
- 29:39Speaker 5: our northern lights. We got our own thing here that
- 29:42Speaker 5: we can show off with this amazing photo. We have
- 29:46Speaker 5: trimethyl aluminum twisters, as photographed by a Norwegian guy who
- 29:52Speaker 5: was ready to look for Aurora and take photos and said, ah,
- 29:56Speaker 5: this is way better than whatever you guys are looking
- 29:58Speaker 5: at in Georgia.
- 30:00Speaker 3: Maybe some people call them t M A T T
- 30:05Speaker 3: try methyl aluminum twisters about that. Maybe maybe I don't
- 30:09Speaker 3: know that they don't call it that.
- 30:10Speaker 5: This photo does not even look real. I mean, that's
- 30:13Speaker 5: how amazing this just the whole thing. I mean, this
- 30:16Speaker 5: looks like something that was maybe done with AI or
- 30:20Speaker 5: you know, somebody generated it for a movie. This is
- 30:23Speaker 5: just a cool and I realized this is, you know,
- 30:26Speaker 5: an audio show. But anyway, let's talk about what they are,
- 30:31Speaker 5: and then we can try to describe the photo a
- 30:33Speaker 5: little better. But I mean, just incredible shot this guy got.
- 30:36Speaker 3: I mean, I think you've done fantastically, my friend, with
- 30:39Speaker 3: the theater of the mind.
- 30:42Speaker 5: I mean, I'm assuming this is this is some sort
- 30:45Speaker 5: of water in the bottom right. I mean, this is
- 30:47Speaker 5: he's looking over a lake. There's mountains in the background,
- 30:52Speaker 5: there's some sort of a light or fire in the
- 30:54Speaker 5: middle that looks like an exclamation point upside down, and
- 30:57Speaker 5: then lights maybe from some sort of a dwelling off
- 31:01Speaker 5: to the side, that also are being reflected into this lake.
- 31:05Speaker 5: And then up above here are these giant squiggly white
- 31:10Speaker 5: lines in the sky that sort of look like, I mean,
- 31:14Speaker 5: the number three over and over again, or like giant
- 31:16Speaker 5: question marks. I mean, that's about as great as I
- 31:19Speaker 5: can describe it, but it doesn't do a justice. And
- 31:21Speaker 5: I'm sure if you go to spaceweather dot com you
- 31:23Speaker 5: can see this incredible photo.
- 31:26Speaker 3: Which that was a fun trip. Thank you very much
- 31:28Speaker 3: for that theater. I mean, but yes, it's what I
- 31:32Speaker 3: was going to refer to, which is it's in the
- 31:34Speaker 3: archive for spaceweather dot com. If you're not catching us
- 31:36Speaker 3: on the day of release of our podcast, which, by
- 31:38Speaker 3: the way, sign up for that so you can get
- 31:40Speaker 3: the little notification that we've released a new podcast, and
- 31:43Speaker 3: here on the actual day we're talking about it. But
- 31:45Speaker 3: likely you haven't, so spaceweather dot com check out the
- 31:48Speaker 3: archive for November twenty first of twenty twenty four and
- 31:51Speaker 3: you will see this picture that Wes has just brilliantly
- 31:54Speaker 3: described of trimethyl aluminum twisters just glowing up in the
- 32:01Speaker 3: nighttime sky like corkscrews. It's a really interesting phenomenon. So
- 32:05Speaker 3: there was a gentleman by the name by the name
- 32:07Speaker 3: of Gear Spensen, and Gear Spensen from Laffeton, Norway, came
- 32:13Speaker 3: out to hunt auroras on the night of November sixteenth,
- 32:16Speaker 3: and what Gear saw instead were tmat trimethyl aluminum twisters,
- 32:24Speaker 3: three of them, glowing in the nighttime sky. They are
- 32:27Speaker 3: not a natural phenomenon, friends, They were actually a material
- 32:31Speaker 3: that was launched from Andoya Space Center in Norway on
- 32:36Speaker 3: a NASA rocket so that people could track the way
- 32:41Speaker 3: this bright glowing substance trimethyl aluminum. Because see, once it
- 32:44Speaker 3: gets out there in the atmosphere, it tends to glow.
- 32:47Speaker 3: That's why they launched that stuff, and so you can
- 32:50Speaker 3: see how the atmosphere is behaving. And there are these
- 32:54Speaker 3: mysterious vortices in the upper atmosphere that a research group
- 32:59Speaker 3: from Klem University was wanting to study. So they launched
- 33:03Speaker 3: a small rocket payload called Vortex, that's the name of
- 33:07Speaker 3: the mission, and Vortex deployed the TMA trimethyl aluminum. It
- 33:13Speaker 3: glowed up there, creating the twisters TMAT and our good
- 33:17Speaker 3: friend Gear s Fencon. Actually I don't know Gear, our
- 33:22Speaker 3: internet friend Gears I don't know. We're not friends on
- 33:24Speaker 3: the internet either. Anyway, Gear s Fencen, astrophotographer from Norway,
- 33:28Speaker 3: captured these tmats sent them over to space Weather. Doctor
- 33:33Speaker 3: Tony Phillips posted them up and wow, what a cool shot.
- 33:38Speaker 3: Now it turns out that these vortices in the upper
- 33:40Speaker 3: atmosphere are poorly understood, and that's why the whole experiment
- 33:44Speaker 3: was done. So we can better understand things that take
- 33:47Speaker 3: place in our atmosphere that lead to all kinds of
- 33:49Speaker 3: weather changes and how our air behaves. That's all important
- 33:52Speaker 3: to know. I think Tony over at Space Weather did
- 33:55Speaker 3: want to make sure that people understand a NASA statement
- 33:59Speaker 3: about TMA vapors released by their rocket says that quote,
- 34:04Speaker 3: they are not harmful to people or life on the
- 34:06Speaker 3: ground unquote. Tony goes on to say this may be
- 34:11Speaker 3: technically true, but only because people on the ground are
- 34:13Speaker 3: so far away from the vapors. If they were closer,
- 34:16Speaker 3: they might not be quite as friendly as what that was.
- 34:19Speaker 3: What my takeaway is, Doctor Phillips reports the tammate is
- 34:22Speaker 3: highly flammable, corrosive, and reacts violently with water, hence why
- 34:26Speaker 3: it's glowing in the atmosphere up there right. It's also
- 34:29Speaker 3: one of the chemical bride products of its luminous reaction
- 34:34Speaker 3: is aluminum oxide, and that compound happens to be involved
- 34:38Speaker 3: in ozone depletion. So yeah, it's not that harmful in
- 34:41Speaker 3: really small quantities if you're very far away. But obviously
- 34:45Speaker 3: we don't want too much of that stuff building up
- 34:47Speaker 3: in the atmosphere either.
- 34:47Speaker 5: Anyway.
- 34:48Speaker 3: Check out that story spaceweather dot com.
- 34:51Speaker 5: And it's never fun when you get the vapors either.
- 34:54Speaker 5: You don't want to get the vapors. That happens sometimes,
- 34:58Speaker 5: but one of my mom's friends will get the vapors.
- 35:00Speaker 5: You know, you just you don't want to have the vapors.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Let's take one more quick break.
- 35:05Speaker 5: When we come back, we'll talk about a star that
- 35:08Speaker 5: was imaged in detail outside the Milky Way for the
- 35:13Speaker 5: first time. We'll do that next. I mean, if we're
- 35:35Speaker 5: able to get an image, a detailed image of a
- 35:39Speaker 5: star outside the Milky Way, how like can we start
- 35:43Speaker 5: catching you know, like the aliens flying by waving at us.
- 35:45Speaker 5: I mean, how close are we to get in one
- 35:47Speaker 5: of those shots? Like if they're just gonna, you know,
- 35:51Speaker 5: just kind of walk through our shot. I mean there's
- 35:53Speaker 5: a chance, right, possibility, we're gonna catch that by accident,
- 35:56Speaker 5: just you know, somebody just cruising by and waving. Or
- 36:01Speaker 5: maybe that guy that Connor Stallion's at a Michigan football
- 36:04Speaker 5: game out in deep space standing on a sidelines. I
- 36:08Speaker 5: don't know. Just watch that documentary. Sorry, it's fresh.
- 36:11Speaker 3: If we could pick up Connor Stallions, why have we
- 36:14Speaker 3: not found aliens?
- 36:15Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I'm saying.
- 36:16Speaker 3: Connor Stallion's on the sidelines of a Michigan game. Where's
- 36:20Speaker 3: the aliens? Is that what you're asking? West Carol?
- 36:23Speaker 5: I think that's what I'm asking because I mean you
- 36:25Speaker 5: see him and you go, that's him. He's holding them
- 36:28Speaker 5: the cod documentary, He's holding the picture up next to himself, going,
- 36:31Speaker 5: this guy doesn't look like me. No, it looks exactly
- 36:34Speaker 5: like And if you didn't want anybody to think it
- 36:39Speaker 5: was you, you probably shouldn't have told Dave Portnoy it
- 36:42Speaker 5: was you, because he just told everybody eight seconds ago
- 36:44Speaker 5: in the documentary it was you anyway.
- 36:49Speaker 3: I mean, only if Dave Portnoy had any kind of
- 36:51Speaker 3: inside information about UFOs, then we might we might have
- 36:54Speaker 3: already imaged aliens. I mean, maybe we have. And Dave's
- 36:57Speaker 3: just as he confirmed he knows.
- 37:01Speaker 5: A pizza, he knows Michigan football. Let's add aliens to
- 37:05Speaker 5: the list. Why not?
- 37:06Speaker 1: So what have they done?
- 37:07Speaker 5: They've gotten this image outside the Milky Way? How does
- 37:11Speaker 5: this work?
- 37:12Speaker 3: Yeah, that star has to be really bright, because see,
- 37:15Speaker 3: there are stars that are in our own Milky Way
- 37:18Speaker 3: galaxy and actually in the general neighborhood that are so faint.
- 37:23Speaker 3: It's really, really, really hard for us to get any
- 37:27Speaker 3: kind of light detection from that star, let alone an
- 37:31Speaker 3: image of its stellar neighborhood, Like you know, like the
- 37:36Speaker 3: people in your neighborhood. Who are the people in your neighborhood?
- 37:39Speaker 3: You know, it's like, we need to know these questions. So,
- 37:42Speaker 3: but the stars in the Milky Way they're too small
- 37:44Speaker 3: and faint. Fortunately for this story, there happens to be
- 37:48Speaker 3: a companion galaxy that's somewhat near to the Milky Way,
- 37:51Speaker 3: And even though it's not part of the Milky Way,
- 37:54Speaker 3: it's relatively near. It's called the Large Magellanic Cloud, the LMC.
- 38:00Speaker 3: It's visible in the Southern Hemisphere, probably down there by
- 38:03Speaker 3: Optus X I mean Australia, I mean something like that. Anyway,
- 38:06Speaker 3: So this, this nearby galaxy has one whopping gigantic star
- 38:13Speaker 3: in it. This star is called w h G sixty four?
- 38:21Speaker 5: Was it named after like by Joey Lawrence? Whoa like?
- 38:25Speaker 5: Was it?
- 38:26Speaker 3: Is?
- 38:26Speaker 7: That?
- 38:26Speaker 5: What could be is that where then they came from?
- 38:28Speaker 5: WHOA G sixty four? I mean just have an image
- 38:35Speaker 5: of him with the flannel shirt around the waist talking
- 38:38Speaker 5: to Blossom. Whoa GGG sixty four? It could be that
- 38:45Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know, I mean, maybe it's.
- 38:46Speaker 3: A catalog number, or maybe Joey Lawrence was actually involved.
- 38:49Speaker 5: Wait was it the girl? There was a girl on
- 38:51Speaker 5: the show named six right, So this says WHOA G
- 38:54Speaker 5: six four? Maybe that's what it was.
- 38:59Speaker 3: I think we're getting at the bottom of this. This
- 39:01Speaker 3: is the kind of investigative reporting that you listen to
- 39:03Speaker 3: this podcast for ladies.
- 39:04Speaker 5: I mean, we dig, we dig as deep as we can.
- 39:07Speaker 5: If we can figure out what that four means, well
- 39:09Speaker 5: know what going on?
- 39:12Speaker 3: So Whoa G six 'y four is two thousand times
- 39:17Speaker 3: the size of the Sun. In other words, you could
- 39:20Speaker 3: line up our sun two thousand times across the diameter
- 39:26Speaker 3: of Whoa G sixty four, which means it's a really
- 39:30Speaker 3: big star. Okay, So if you're gonna try to photograph
- 39:35Speaker 3: not just the light from a star, but actual details
- 39:39Speaker 3: of the star surface itself, and it's nearby neighborhood, it
- 39:43Speaker 3: might be a good idea to look for Woe G
- 39:47Speaker 3: six ' four as one of the candidate stars or
- 39:51Speaker 3: a star similar to it, because it's just so large, right,
- 39:54Speaker 3: And so that's exactly what the astronomers have done, and
- 39:57Speaker 3: they've used an instrument called the very large telesc I
- 40:01Speaker 3: would stop there, which is just too funny. There actually
- 40:04Speaker 3: is a telescope called the very large telescope, uh huh,
- 40:07Speaker 3: because it was bigger than the semi large telescope or
- 40:10Speaker 3: the kind of big telescope or the sort of large telescope. No,
- 40:14Speaker 3: this is the very large telescope. But this is not
- 40:16Speaker 3: just the VLT friends, this is the VLT interferometer, the
- 40:21Speaker 3: very large telescope interferometer. That's a process by which we
- 40:24Speaker 3: use many different telescopes to simulate a massive diameter of
- 40:29Speaker 3: one single telescope that allows us to get even more
- 40:33Speaker 3: detailed imaging of tremendously distant objects. So the VLTI was
- 40:39Speaker 3: the instrument that was able to capture an image, not
- 40:42Speaker 3: just light coming from the star. That's the important part, friends,
- 40:45Speaker 3: It's not just photons coming from the star. We get
- 40:47Speaker 3: that from lots of different really distant galaxies, but an
- 40:51Speaker 3: actual picture of the face of this star and its hair,
- 40:55Speaker 3: it's surrounding neighborhood woe G sixty four, WHG sixty four.
- 41:02Speaker 3: And so this is the first time that we are
- 41:05Speaker 3: ever able, using any instruments on Earth to image the
- 41:10Speaker 3: actual details of a star's surface and its surrounding neighborhood
- 41:14Speaker 3: when that star is in another galaxy not named Milky Way.
- 41:19Speaker 3: So that's a really really interesting thing. These outflows of
- 41:22Speaker 3: materials that are filling up the surrounding neighborhood of the
- 41:25Speaker 3: stars are an indication that WOHG sixty four is a
- 41:29Speaker 3: dying star. It's actually in its final stages of life,
- 41:33Speaker 3: leading up to potentially a massive supernova explosion. If we
- 41:37Speaker 3: understand how stars behave stars like whoa G sixty four
- 41:41Speaker 3: blow up, they blow up really powerfully. They make a
- 41:45Speaker 3: very large supernova explosion. That's what we anticipate is going
- 41:48Speaker 3: to happen in the near future, at least on the
- 41:50Speaker 3: ages of stars in the near future for this star
- 41:55Speaker 3: as it approaches its final death throws so interesting story.
- 41:58Speaker 3: Check it out on space Dot.
- 42:00Speaker 5: Best I can come up with with the four is
- 42:02Speaker 5: that maybe he was playing golf. Just throw that in
- 42:04Speaker 5: at the end. One small correction on something that you said.
- 42:08Speaker 5: You said we all need to know our neighbors. I
- 42:10Speaker 5: don't cay see if my neighbors are listening. We're good.
- 42:15Speaker 5: I know the ones I need to know. How about that?
- 42:17Speaker 5: You know if I know you were good, That's all
- 42:19Speaker 5: I'm saying. Just with the West's neighbors, you don't need
- 42:25Speaker 5: to come into my yard. We're good like the ones
- 42:27Speaker 5: that I know. You're welcome anytime. The others we're good
- 42:30Speaker 5: like we have a good established boundaries. I think we're
- 42:33Speaker 5: we're kind of comfortable where we all are. Let's talk
- 42:37Speaker 5: about we got. Next week is obviously Thanksgiving, so you
- 42:42Speaker 5: guys will have some adjusted hours at the Coca Cola
- 42:45Speaker 5: Space Science Center and then it's never too early to
- 42:47Speaker 5: start thinking ahead about next year when you guys will
- 42:50Speaker 5: resume music under the Dome.
- 42:53Speaker 3: Yeah. So, so next week is Thanksgiving. Wish everybody a
- 42:57Speaker 3: great first holiday in the holiday season, Thanksgiving Holiday, and
- 43:02Speaker 3: what we're going to do for folks here at Space
- 43:05Speaker 3: Science Center is we're going to be closed on the
- 43:08Speaker 3: Wednesday prior to the Thursday of Thanksgiving, So we will
- 43:12Speaker 3: be open the Monday and Tuesday of the week leading
- 43:14Speaker 3: up to Thanksgiving, but we're going to let our folks
- 43:17Speaker 3: have a little extra time with their families as well,
- 43:21Speaker 3: and so we're going to be closed on that day
- 43:24Speaker 3: prior to Thanksgiving, the Wednesday, and we're going to reopen
- 43:27Speaker 3: on the Monday following the weekend after the Thanksgiving holiday.
- 43:31Speaker 3: So all of that is going to be taking place
- 43:33Speaker 3: next week. Come and see us on the Monday and Tuesday.
- 43:36Speaker 3: If you don't catch us, than we'll see you after Thanksgiving.
- 43:39Speaker 3: On that Monday that follows Now. An additional fun thing
- 43:41Speaker 3: that's happening in December, we will be having our Mystery
- 43:44Speaker 3: of the Christmas Star Show, our Christmas show that plays
- 43:47Speaker 3: in our planetarium for the holidays. You can come down
- 43:50Speaker 3: and check that out in the Atmosphere Theater. Check our
- 43:52Speaker 3: website for the schedule there, and also, as Wes mentioned,
- 43:55Speaker 3: check the website for the upcoming schedule for our Music
- 43:58Speaker 3: under the Dome concerts in our Atmosphere Theater Planetarium. Those
- 44:02Speaker 3: are hosted with a schwob School of Music here at
- 44:04Speaker 3: Columbustate University, and it's a really great time to see
- 44:07Speaker 3: a concert. Maybe you could even give folks concert tickets
- 44:11Speaker 3: for Christmas. There's a gift idea of perfect So I
- 44:16Speaker 3: check that out all right, So the website www dot
- 44:19Speaker 3: cc SSC dot org. Charlie Charlie SamSam Charlie dot org.
- 44:25Speaker 3: Check out all the information on Columbus State University's Coca
- 44:28Speaker 3: Cola Space Science Center at that web portal.
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