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Crooked College Wall Street Investor w/ Cristen Conger (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's Popping Congregation is your girl Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 1: older episodes from the Scam Goddess vault. That's right, Fraud
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  Speaker 1: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
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  Speaker 1: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, stay scheming Scam.
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  Speaker 2: Come.
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  Speaker 3: R froll.
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  Speaker 1: Scam, Come run from Scam Goddess. What's popping Congregation? It's
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  Speaker 1: your girl Lacey Mosley and we're back with another installmentive
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  Speaker 1: Scam Goddess. The podcast is all about robbery Friday and
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  Speaker 1: those who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we
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  Speaker 1: hate them. We'll see along the way. Y'all know how
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  Speaker 1: this goes. As always, one am I come on Parasocial girlies. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm extremely excited for today's guests. Today we
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  Speaker 1: have the creator and co host of the Webby Award
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  Speaker 1: a winning podcast, Okay Unladylike, where she explores contemporary feminist
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  Speaker 1: issues and historical contacts. I love that she also is
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  Speaker 1: a booked and busy writer, with her work appearing on
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  Speaker 1: Jezbel Bitch Media exo Jane and how stuff works. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: how stuff girlies. We know who y'all are. Congregation, please
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  Speaker 1: welcome the ever talented kristin Conger. I should have asked
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  Speaker 1: you before. Did I say your name right? Is it conjure?
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  Speaker 1: It's a summer.
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  Speaker 4: No, you didn't comment perfectly, you did, Conger, but the congregation,
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  Speaker 4: Come on, Conguer.
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  Speaker 2: Okay you already you're already reading my mind because well
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  Speaker 2: it's not that hard to put conger and congregation together.
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  Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, I am the youngest of
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  Speaker 2: five big family. As a kid, we went to church
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  Speaker 2: all the time, and for much of my childhood I
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  Speaker 2: thought that congregation was like a church joke about my
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  Speaker 2: big family.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you were like, oh, yeah, is so sweet.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was like this inside joke.
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  Speaker 1: Also, being the youngest of five as a scam, because
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  Speaker 1: we all know the first child is the practice child.
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  Speaker 1: That was me. If you get middle siblings and you
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  Speaker 1: know they trying to get their attention and then whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But the last one, Oh that's the sweet spot. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: your parents are too tired to punish you as much.
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  Speaker 1: Like we're like, oh, I don't know, go to your room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear the middle children and my family there,
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  Speaker 2: my middle siblings's ears are burning right now.
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  Speaker 1: Now I have to ask you first, if you don't
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  Speaker 1: mind sharing, what religion were you in church all the time?
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  Speaker 1: We're talking masks like get ups and down, get ups
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  Speaker 1: and down, like.
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  Speaker 3: Holy no, no, I mean my family was.
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  Speaker 2: They were kind of classic nineteen nineties like evangelical church hoppers.
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  Speaker 1: Churchhoppers.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, why I move it around so much. Well,
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  Speaker 3: they had a passion for Jesus and we're looking for
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  Speaker 3: the right place to to congregate.
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  Speaker 1: I love your family. Your parents just like assessing the
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  Speaker 1: vibes of the church, like they're just going to churches
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  Speaker 1: like a spree before living at the club. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: Wafers were a little stale. I don't know, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we could do better.
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  Speaker 3: It really it was not, You're not that far off.
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  Speaker 3: It was a lot. But at least I got a
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  Speaker 3: really fun congregation pun out of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know that you did. Did you go to youth
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  Speaker 1: church ever?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, because lazy. This is when I
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  Speaker 2: further revealed to you that I was homeschooled during this
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  Speaker 2: time as well.
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  Speaker 1: So this was your this was your interaction.
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  Speaker 3: You were like, yeah, yeah, if I was gonna see
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  Speaker 3: a boy I was not.
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  Speaker 4: Blood related to, I had to get to church, like
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  Speaker 4: Kristen loves going to church.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, and I adjusted out of it
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  Speaker 3: just right as Rain.
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  Speaker 1: I love that little Kristen was like, hey, y'all's Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: night prayer. I mean we need to go now, Like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I got youth group, come on, we're gonna be late.
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  Speaker 3: I have like a heavy eye shadow really getting gussied up, right.
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  Speaker 1: I love that for you. And also we always talk
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  Speaker 1: about this show like if you're a hater, like find
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  Speaker 1: a hater job like being a parking meter person or
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  Speaker 1: working in the ir rest. But also I think if
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  Speaker 1: you're a corny person, find a corny person job, and
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  Speaker 1: being a youth pastor peak corny person job.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but it's also a fine line between corny
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  Speaker 2: and creepy.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I actually, if.
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  Speaker 1: You're a creep, find a padded room like spare us please,
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  Speaker 1: that's the least you can do. I would be proud
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  Speaker 1: of somebody who was like, yo, I really started doing
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  Speaker 1: some thought and I'm a creep. So I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: stay at my house like not bother y'all, like, why
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  Speaker 1: don't you do that? You could just stay at your home, creepy.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's not your fault you were born a creep.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it probably is, so stay home, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: you know, don't bother everybody which your creepiness. But I
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  Speaker 1: know exactly what you're saying. We do not have to
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  Speaker 1: go down that road. But yeah, but the first row
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  Speaker 1: we are going to go down is Kristen. I have
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  Speaker 1: to ask you, what is your relationship with scams? Do
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  Speaker 1: you love them? Do you hate them? Have been scammed?
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  Speaker 1: Have you run these scams that are past the statute
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  Speaker 1: of limitations? It could be anything.
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  Speaker 3: I think yes, all of the above.
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  Speaker 2: I do love scams. I, as you pointed out so wisely,
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  Speaker 2: as the youngest of five, I am inherently a scammer. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and not only was I the youngest, Like there's there's
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  Speaker 2: a four year gap between me and the next kid,
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  Speaker 2: so like truly the baby, like I was a real
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  Speaker 2: oopsie daisy, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Where It's like we were done here you come scamming
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  Speaker 1: your way into your mama home, Like I'll be renting
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  Speaker 1: this out for the next nine months and sucking all
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  Speaker 1: the calcium out of your teeth, what's good.
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  Speaker 2: I was a scam and I think it's also something
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  Speaker 2: though as the youngest, or maybe it's just part of
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  Speaker 2: being in a bigger family where you do have to
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  Speaker 2: get scrappy, and you know, because the resources they're going
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  Speaker 2: to go to the oldest first.
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  Speaker 1: That's a scam of being the oldest exactly if they
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  Speaker 1: have the resources, if they have you when they are
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  Speaker 1: young and shit, then you grew up with a different life.
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  Speaker 1: Like I remember when I was a little kid, my
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  Speaker 1: mom did have an apartment at some point, and then
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  Speaker 1: after that, every house we moved into was built new,
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  Speaker 1: Like I never lived in a house that anybody else
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  Speaker 1: lived in. And my sister rolled around in Mercedes Benzes
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  Speaker 1: and shit. So she won. She won on that.
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  Speaker 3: But did she get your hand me downs at all?
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  Speaker 1: No, she just steals my nice clothes. Now, she was
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  Speaker 1: too good for that. I remember one time I took
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  Speaker 1: her to a dentist appointment, and this was like maybe
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  Speaker 1: it was like sixteen. I just, you know, got my
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  Speaker 1: driver's license and was driving and the roads were slick
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  Speaker 1: because it had just rained, and I got into a
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  Speaker 1: small fender bender. But I have the kind of car
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  Speaker 1: that like it. It was like a Hyundai at Lantra,
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  Speaker 1: and I said it like as a foreign work And
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  Speaker 1: so the car crumpled a little bit in the front
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  Speaker 1: because I think that's just like an impact protection. But
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't a bad accident. My sister was maybe like
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  Speaker 1: four or five at the time. She wasn't upset about
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  Speaker 1: the accident. I had a striped into her car seat
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  Speaker 1: in the back. But I had to get back in
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  Speaker 1: the car because it wasn't a big accident and move
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  Speaker 1: it so that we could get it off the road
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  Speaker 1: and somebody could tow it. Why the whole time my
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  Speaker 1: sister is not in distress. I'm like, we have to
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  Speaker 1: get back into the car city so we can move it.
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  Speaker 1: She breaks down crying, and I was like, what's wrong,
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  Speaker 1: what's wrong?
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you hurt?
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  Speaker 1: She was like, I don't want to get in a
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  Speaker 1: broken car. It's like you bouchie bouchie as me as
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  Speaker 1: the first boy would have been like, yeah, let me
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  Speaker 1: get in you when you try to fix.
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  Speaker 3: The engine, Yeah, I'll help push it.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, So you're scrappy because you're the youngest as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I'm scrappy. I'm a bit sneaky. I definitely was
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  Speaker 3: sat down many times by my mom.
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  Speaker 2: And my sister, like saying, you have to stop sneaking
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  Speaker 2: into your sister's closet and stealing her stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You think that you're getting away with it, you are not,
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  Speaker 3: because that's the thing. I just really I was like,
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  Speaker 3: who's gonna notice this, who's gonna she's she's not.
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  Speaker 1: Weare okay, but you live in the same house. Where'd
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  Speaker 1: you think you will go leave? And they won't go
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  Speaker 1: to see you.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: That's also the paradise Casper.
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  Speaker 1: The youngest friendly ghost. Yeah we see you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's you know.
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  Speaker 4: I guess I was kind of full of myself, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I love the confidence as the baby, and then I
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  Speaker 4: unfortunately never grew out of it.
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  Speaker 2: I like to think I'm starting to grow out of
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  Speaker 2: my kind of sneakish sh happiness. But first when I
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  Speaker 2: went to actual high school, so I was homeschooled through
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  Speaker 2: middle school. Then I got to high school, and I
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  Speaker 2: did earn the nickname Scraps.
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  Speaker 3: Because okay, I should.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Scraps.
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  Speaker 2: Because I was like willfully bad about bringing my lunch,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of like I don't really want to do this,
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  Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. And I would never really figure
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  Speaker 2: it out, and so I would just like wait, wait
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  Speaker 2: until my friends were done with their lunch, and they would,
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  Speaker 2: you know, slide down a gogurt told Scraps at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the table.
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  Speaker 1: Kids are fucking rude. Kids are rude, Like you've been
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  Speaker 1: giving you the food. They're like, okay, Scraps. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was also the poor kid at a private school,
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  Speaker 2: so you know I made note of that. But then
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  Speaker 2: also after college, in my early adulthood, I'm embarrassed to
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  Speaker 2: say that an entirely different group of people gave me
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  Speaker 2: the nickname of the Scavenger because I would scavenge snacks.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, the brand is strong.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I guess what I'm trying to say is, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I have a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what like TV jobs and like, oh, what
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  Speaker 1: do you do here? Oh, I'm here for crafty.
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  Speaker 3: I just got like pocketfuls of like you know, little
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  Speaker 3: snack packs. Anything I can get my paws on.
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  Speaker 1: I love that for you. Listen, if it's free, it's
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  Speaker 1: for me. Okay. If it's free, is for me, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take some home for later no matter what. Okay, listen,
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  Speaker 1: we all got to take advantage. I love that scal God,
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  Speaker 1: it's time for me and scraps. Oh no, to get
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  Speaker 1: into our first segment. Here, what's hot in fraud? Now,
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  Speaker 1: my scavenger queen, I need a fake name for you.
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  Speaker 1: We don't care about gender unless somebody marks it at
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  Speaker 1: the top. There's no mark here, so it could be anything.
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  Speaker 3: Doris.
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  Speaker 1: Doris, ooh, take us back, Doris Pain one of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite scammers, jewel thief, So Doris says, Lacey and the congregation. Now, Doris,
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  Speaker 1: I told you about Okay, but I'm gonna read this.
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  Speaker 1: I love and it's about eighty oh's here your show,
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  Speaker 1: and I wanted to share the day I almost got took. Okay, Doris,
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  Speaker 1: what happened? Dora says. I think of myself as someone
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  Speaker 1: that can't be scammed, and this boy right here had
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  Speaker 1: me driving in a car down the street to buy
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  Speaker 1: a gift card. Oh no, now, y'all, y'all know about
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  Speaker 1: the gift cards. Anybody who wants a gift card. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a burner phone. People get those to do crime. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: They can't be traced as well, just like gift cards.
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  Speaker 1: So Okay, Dora says, let's back up. Okay, Doris a storytelling.
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  Speaker 1: Here was a scam. My Amazon firestick wasn't working, and
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  Speaker 1: I Google customer service for Amazon Firestick. It took me
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  Speaker 1: to a number that I dialed. So you guys know,
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, like when scammers, they're reaching out
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  Speaker 1: to you, they're doing the legwork. But Doris is saying
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  Speaker 1: that she called because her Amrizon firestick was trash. And
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  Speaker 1: I've had that issue with firesticks back in the day
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  Speaker 1: when I used to use them. For some reason. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: they just like stop working, like you're plugged with your
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  Speaker 1: computer that get weird. It feels like a Nintendo. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta unplug it it and like blow it off and
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  Speaker 1: put it back in. So been there. The number sent
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  Speaker 1: me to the scammer, and this is why I was
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  Speaker 1: off my game because I called them. The Internet is
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  Speaker 1: a scary place, y'all. The Internet is a dark alley, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You always got to watch out. Anytime you click Safari
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  Speaker 1: or Google, or anytime you get on any of your apps,
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  Speaker 1: you're in a dark alley and you need to be
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  Speaker 1: aware of that. So he sounded very official and fast forward.
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  Speaker 1: He stated that they had to verify my location, and
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  Speaker 1: they could only do that if I brought a gift
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  Speaker 1: card and send them numbers to verify that it's me.
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  Speaker 1: Damn girl, you really want to join Amazon Firestick doors.
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  Speaker 1: Were you hooked on ten lass Arres?
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  Speaker 3: Why wasn't that your tael? It suddenly got very complicated
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  Speaker 3: that you should have known.
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  Speaker 1: Then when is Amazon Firestick like we need to verify
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  Speaker 1: your location? Absolutely not. So it says I was swept
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  Speaker 1: up in the fact that I needed to get my
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  Speaker 1: firestick going for a house party. His seeing your desperation
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  Speaker 1: was high. You had a house party coming up. The
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  Speaker 1: girlies needed to watch Amazon all your firestick, and so
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  Speaker 1: you were ignoring all the flags.
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  Speaker 3: I believe you think they were gonna want.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, because now I'm trying to think like
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  Speaker 1: house party and Amazon Firestick. Maybe she had Amazon Music
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  Speaker 1: and she was like, I'm not gonna have a DJ.
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  Speaker 1: I already told everybody to wear white linen. If they
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  Speaker 1: show up and I don't have no tunes, I'm down bad.
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  Speaker 3: Doris was in a frenzy. You know, she was in
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  Speaker 3: a frenzy.
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  Speaker 2: She realized she did not leave herself enough time to
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  Speaker 2: plan this party, and suddenly she found herself.
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  Speaker 3: In a car with a man all Doris losing party planning.
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  Speaker 1: She went to Costco panic buying.
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  Speaker 3: Oh she.
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  Speaker 1: She already had sent it out on paperless posts. She
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  Speaker 1: was like, everybody has rsvp' yes, there's only three maybies.
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  Speaker 1: I'm down bad. I gotta I gotta get the vibes.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. I like to host to Doris, so
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  Speaker 1: I understand. So she swept up trying to throw the
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  Speaker 1: house party. She says he had a very official sounding voice,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't know what that sounds Is that just
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  Speaker 1: a white man? He sounded tall and like he had
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  Speaker 1: a full hit of hair.
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  Speaker 3: What if it was just like a robot voice?
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  Speaker 1: We must verify and it's like this, does robustles sound
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  Speaker 1: like this anymore? We must Sparifyyoh, the okation send us
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  Speaker 1: a wildmart Gipt guard Like what, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: that sounds like now, But okay, you said it's official.
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  Speaker 1: So Doris says, I got into my car and I
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  Speaker 1: drove to publics. Publics, Where are you Florida? Atlanta?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm in Atlanta and I love a pup sub.
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  Speaker 3: I'm right around the corner for publics.
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  Speaker 1: Public says that spot. I do love a public, especially
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  Speaker 1: a public's rotisserie chicken, So I'm not mad. And okay,
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  Speaker 1: so Doris is black, I said, then this nigga told
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  Speaker 1: me that she boarded it up. I had to get
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  Speaker 1: a hundred dollars gift card. My brain kicked back on. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: I said, hey, there has to be another way to
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  Speaker 1: verify me. PS. I don't even have one hundred dollars
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  Speaker 1: to get to gift scam card. I hung up and
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  Speaker 1: drove home, shaking my head. I was still shocked that
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  Speaker 1: he got me that far. For sure, congregation stays scamming Doris. Okay, Doris,
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  Speaker 1: But Doris, how was the party? Yeah, Doris, how was
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  Speaker 1: the party? Did you figure out how to get the
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  Speaker 1: music popping? Because it's given Atlanta, it's giving Florida, it's
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  Speaker 1: giving somewhere around there. And also, Doris, did you send
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  Speaker 1: this from your work email. I'm not gonna say what
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  Speaker 1: it is, but Doors the man the name that you
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  Speaker 1: said does not match the sign off nor the business.
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  Speaker 1: So I know you like scams, and I love that
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  Speaker 1: for you. I really wish. Oh oh, and we got
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  Speaker 1: one of the locations, right. I'm not gonna say which one,
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  Speaker 1: but the end of this world? Why are you sending
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  Speaker 1: me emails from work doors?
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  Speaker 3: I love that for you?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, quiet quitting, she said, I'm an email scam gun
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  Speaker 1: as well by my job from the company doors. Delete
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  Speaker 1: the company email that you sent to me. That's probably
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  Speaker 1: why she bleeped out the airwork. She was like, just
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  Speaker 1: in case of corporate or hrces this email.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, doras see someone on ones they think about
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  Speaker 3: creeping around online.
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  Speaker 1: Doris, Look, you were in a desert position. You were
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  Speaker 1: trying to provide vibes, probably hookah because you know that
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  Speaker 1: has our community in the chokehold. Okay, and the last
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  Speaker 1: thing you needed was your firestick to have no fire
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  Speaker 1: I understand, but I'm glad that you stopped. When you
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: realize that one hundred dollars gift card to fix an
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Amazon firestick, that's definitely not one hundred dollars anymore. It's
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: not worth it. You could have just bought a new one.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Are they like forty five bucks? Now?
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Probably?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Girl. With inflation, they making up all
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: types of prices. You go to the grocery store, it
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: feels like they auction and now we gotta salarate we
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: gotta sealerate nine, who's hungry, who won't celerate? Who wants
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to eat tonight? Come on home, America. We got five
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: in the back. We got five in the back with
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: a woman with a family.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I'm just driving up prices unnecessarily.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Literally, that's what our fake inflation is right now? Okay, Yeah,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Amazon sticks are like the fire sticks are like twenty
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: four to ninety nine now, sis.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's a good lesson.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: If anyone wants you to pay one hundred dollars, you say,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I could get four firesticks, official sounding sir.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And also these days, like scammers know how to put
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: their numbers online and so also subvert algorithms, and you
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: might search something and they will pop up if that's
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: their scam. Apparently Amazon five stickers had enough problems that
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: some scammer realized that they could cash in. Why this
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: wasn't too good to be true. This was too much work.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: You gotta drive, you gotta get a gift card that's
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: worth more than the value of the thing. But at
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the same time, there might be some people who would
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: be willing to fall for this. Nothing is really official anymore.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: You kind of have to just wait and almost like
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you're in a police interrogation, Like if you're sitting there,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: we all know the rules are ask for a lawyer,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: ask for a lawyer, don't give up any personal information.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: And that's how you have to be online now because
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: people have figured out ways to pretend to be everybody,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: including myself. So and I will get into the new
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: updates about the hacker who got me on Twitter at
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: some point, but not right now, but I just want
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you all to know, like who they're working hard out
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: here these days.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: It does sound yeah, it sounds like a beyond a
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: full time job.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Scamming is a profession, and I think that's what people forget.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: They think that people are lazy, they think that they're stupid.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: What in reality, there just hard working people who want
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to do crime. Yeah, if you give anything, you're all
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you can be successful. Okay. I'm sure a lot of
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: scammers watched like Oscar speeches and shit, and we're like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you can be whoever you want to be, and they
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: were like, okay, I can be a bank roper.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: They're talking to me.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some people take that as I could be president.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Other people were like I could do financial crimes a
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: lot I believe in myself.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I can scam with firesticks.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: You could be the future of frig guys. Believe in yourselves.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Oh that's all, and it's time for me to regale
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Kristen with a famous concaper group of criminals. We'll see
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: if we like them, see if we hate them. So
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: we're going back to nineteen eighty eight. Oh, a twenty
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: three year old Wall Street whiz kid was caught stealing
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: millions from his friends to invest in the stock market. However,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: instead of increasing the wealth of the hundred of his
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: closest friends and associates, he became a professional lush. Oh no,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: he came out of money.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: To Greg or, were they drinking in eighty eight?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Right? How you still it from one hundred people for cocktails?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It feels like you don't need that much money. So
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: we have a picture here. David's on the right. So
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: David's investment scheme began when he was just a freshman
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: at Duke University in nineteen eighty two. Wow, so he's
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: probably just what like eighteen seventeen, Yeah, an entrepreneur. Along
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: with other students, they formed a seemingly legitimate investment pool
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that generated eight thousand dollars with inflation, that's about twenty
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: grand today. That's a good I mean, I guess you're
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a duke. So kids parents probably have more money than
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: most because I'm like, you got this from college students.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely sounds like they had monopoly money at
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: their disposal, you know, right.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: They weren't stretching twenty dollars over a week like normal
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: college students. They weren't eating ramen, you know how. They
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: always have to have those little information sessions and dorms,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and for some reason, there's always something targeted towards like
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the CIS male college students. Just like, hey, guys, if
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you put robin in the microwave, make sure you put
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: water with it. Please don't start a fire. And every
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: year there's a microwave fire from some freshmen who can't
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: cook a robin noodle.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Oh man, that's oh. I believe the children are the future.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: That's right there.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I can't even judge. I look, you started a small fire.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I left a flat iron on when I went to
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a football game and like incinerated a chair. It was
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: all good, though, like the building do burned down, just
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: like the chair got a little melted.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I did that with a with a curling iron once
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: and like left a brown stain on my counter. So yeah, yeah,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: right of past, it was all of us. We're all
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: fire hazards, Lacey.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: We're all fire hazards. That's the big lesson of this episode.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Don't worry, guys. It's okay if you burned something to
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the ground. So, Smoky, we ain't listened to that bear,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and we ain't listened to that lion from dare you know? Sorry,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: we failed you both, those smokers, Like only you can
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: prevent I'm sorry, Smoky, you got to find somebody else
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to pervet the forest fires, damn. So with some measure
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of success on the books, David was easily able to
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: attract investors to business after he graduated with a degree
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: in art history in nineteen eighty five. So you didn't
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: even get a degree in finance.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: He must have been rich then if he left Duke
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: with an art history degree and.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: You're not even getting into, like I don't know, selling
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: like high end paintings, like you're not working at Sotheby's.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: He just wanted to be able to like be obnoxious
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: at his like rich rich person parties. Maybe when he
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: was making all of his scam money.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have got a bougie degree. He was like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: what's gonna make me bougie er? Not necessarily into the workforce,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: just bougie. Love it. So, David said he tried to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: repay Duke later by pledging one million dollars to create
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: an endowment fund for Duke's art museum to buy paintings
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: by American artists. However, the school said that less than
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars had been paid. I mean, he
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: gotta be one hundred g's like, come on, universities, that's
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: more than you're gonna get out of most of your students.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: That's the most ghetto thing. You graduate and then immediately
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the Loved Association.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Is like, hey, you want to donate.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, girl, I just donated for tuition. What
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: do you mean. They're like, yeah, but you got a
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: job yet you want to give back?
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: No?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I don't not yet. Maybe ever, college is a scam.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: So at the same time, in the eighteen months following
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: his graduation, David acquired nearly five million dollars worth of
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: art and three million dollars worth of real estate. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: think you're right, Kristen. He had to have been rich already.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: He got automobiles, jewelry and furniture.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: And he's just a little guy.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Right. This is the biggest success story straight out of
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: college I've ever heard. So David was even featured in
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the New York Times magazine as one of Wall Street's
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: newest breed of private investors, whose bigger ambitions included building
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: an important art collection. Okay, so he was tying in
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: art the whole time. He was like, I rib people,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I love art. These are my pasts.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, but wait, Cassle tell me, but I feel like
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: the arts of skins.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: He's keeping it in the brand though, he's keeping the
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: brand strong, just like you, thank you, scraps. I'm not
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: gonna call you that no more. I don't know if
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it's triggering.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: It's not, it's not.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I just love it. It's just very funny. So in
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: an article he said, first I decided what I want
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to buy, then I worry about how I'm going to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: pay for it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Cool. So he's like Elon Musk.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Literally literally a super villain lex Luthor because I'm like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: most average people are, like I guess we do figure out,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: like oh, I want this, but then we saved to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: pay for it, or we figure out if we have
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it in our budget or our bank accounts. But he's
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't know. I want to buy a bridge.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I'll figure out how to get it. Yeah, I love
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the confidence. It turns out he skipped the step in
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: making money from his clients by not investing their money
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in the stock market at all. Oops. Oh oh, when
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: y'all gave me the money, y'all have wanted me to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: y'all had wanted me to do some waited other than
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: by automobiles. Oh, y'all should have been more specific. We
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: y'all gave me the money. I didn't know you wanted
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: me to like invest it and like make it back
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and get dividends and returns. Oops.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: My dad was a thought. It was a gift. The
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: donation of sorts to the arts. Do you not love
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: arts much?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: You really believed in my lifestyle? You weren't sponsoring me.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: This wasn't a scholarship. I love it by at right.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: So the first Ponzi scheme, because obviously this is a
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Ponzi scheme when you take people's money and you say
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you're gonna invest it and you just use it and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you don't invest it. We're working on a Ponzi scheme.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Shout out to burning maid Off. I'm looking down on you,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: thinking about you right now. Love you so much. So
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: he told his clients that he would acquire stocks and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: options on their behalf through the New York brokerage houses,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: but instead he fraudulently created fake statements showing non existent trades.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: That's the business. You cook up, you get on photoshop,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you cook the books.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: You know so much. But like we were saying, this,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: so much work.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You fry the figures, saw Tael the numbers of couse
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: he scanning as a job. Just because he wasn't doing
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the right thing doesn't mean he wasn't working very hard.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: It's a lot to keep up with.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: So as an investment advisor who held a lot of
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: other people's money, David would also be required to register
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: with the SEC, the Security is and Exchange Commission. He
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: did not, So he's investing for people. It's just some dude.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: He's just gone rugue, like just just a free agent.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh yeah, I just consult for investing. The
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: SEC don't need to know about me. It's like if
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you were like, we've talked about this before, like I
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: do braces. There are people on Instagram and businesses are
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: like I do braces. You can't just do braces. You
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: gotta be all the time like no, no't know, we
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: skipped out that orthodotic stuff I do. I just do braces.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Do you want some, I'll give you some. So, when
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: his clients wish to withdraw their money, he used other
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: clients accounts to pay them off, otherwise known as yes
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: a Ponzi scheme. That's where you just move money around
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: so that people think that they're making money, so that
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: they don't blow the whistle on you when you're like, oh, oh,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: when you gave me money, you want to sign back.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy, Okay, okay, I'll see what I can do. So,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: in order to create the impression that he was making money,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: David continued to buy lavish and very expensive items. And
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: we've talked about this. Just because you see somebody having
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like a nice watch or a nice car, it doesn't
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: mean that they have money. A lot of people do
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that to convince you so that you will give them money.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So additionally, he incorporated under the name Greater Sutton Investor
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Group incorporated Wow very official for four names there and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: opened an office at nine West fifteen fifty seventh Street,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: a block away from Central Park. So that's expensive real
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: estate even in the eighties. And I always think of
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: New York and I think about what Darren Started did
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to my brain when it comes to New York City,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: because I grew up like and as a kid, I
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: would watch Sex in the City, you know, whenever I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: could sneak it and my mom was watching it, and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I thought New York was this fabulous place where a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: writer could have a nice rent control apartment and spend
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: all her money on Manolo Blinics, and you know that
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: was normal. It's like, no, New York City's expensive.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: And you could go for endless brunches. Everything was very clean.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Think I need to run like a three am ad.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: It's just like if you were loved moved to New
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: York City because you saw sex in the city and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: thought you could be Carrie Bradshaw, you might be entitled
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to damage it. It's like carry You ain't tell us
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: about all these rats, Yeah, tell us. We couldn't walk
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: at nineteen blocks and Manolo Blinics and then.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Not to totally like derail us, but did you watch
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: and just like that?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I watched that mess.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It just reminded me of whatever episode it was where
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Carrie just like walked the length of Manhattan because she
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: couldn't sleep. She's just prancing around. I'm pretty sure she
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: was in of course, in heels that day in the gown.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I'm over here with goddamn Bunians and sneakers.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Lacey like, that's a lie.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: She lied to us, She straight up lied to us,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and like and just like that, Oh, they really got
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: us with that, because I was just like, I don't know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: More Sex than the City. Yes, it was problematic, and no,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: they never wrote black people well, which is one of
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: my favorite things about Sex and the City. It's like
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: one of the few episodes where they have Samantha Dayton
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to black eyes. Of course, she's like, hey's blag, it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: big block. It's so extra. But they have a fight
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in the club. She gets in a fight with his
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: sister because his sister doesn't want him to be with her.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And when the fight breaks out, he pops back up
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: this black man. He breaks up the fight asays, keep
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: it real, keep it real. No black person as ever.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: You was keeping reel like this and.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: This is so funny.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Oh man, they watched one nineties music video. We're like,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: we got it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would I would like to see, you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: because they did like the podcast like writers Room for
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: and just like that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I would love like the Writer's Room backstory, just for
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: just for that episode.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like walk us, walk us through, let's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: U And that podcast was given Hello, fellow kids, we
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: know about podcasts and Carrie has one.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Like what, like, well, that's the thing, okay.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I felt like I did feel so scammed when I
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: saw the first episode of just like That and just
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: like that, because I fancied myself a young Carrie Bradshaw.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: You know, I spoke and uh you know, and wrote
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: my little things and overshared about sex.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I couldn't You couldn't help, but wonder you couldn't help.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: There were so many things I couldn't help, but wonder
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: And if you had told me back then, like, hey,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: guess what, you are going to end up doing the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: same thing as Carrie Bradshaw.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: She's actually gonna start doing what your job is and
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: she's going to be a podcaster.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I was like this.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: It's not supposed to be like this.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: No, this isn't burrowsing, but here we are. So David's
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: got this office near Central Park. He hired this isn't
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: quotes to employees to answer phones and mail, and had
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: stationary printing because you got to look officials. So he's
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: got the official letterhead of we do business for real,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: give us you money, We definitely will give it back
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: to you, that business. But he kept no accurate business
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: records and disclosed no financial information to his clients or
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: anyone else because he didn't have any was just supposed
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to say I stole it. Would you like a letterhead?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: You don't want that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going to get the letterhead, you can
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: at least, you know, put some fake charts on it
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Just several fake charts are just the lines, yeah, like
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: an error going up up up up up money money money.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: We're in the black black black black, Like he just says,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you're rich, congratulations. There's no like map on it. There's
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: no like information on what the numbers mean, Like you
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: didn't even what is it? On a line graph? You
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: have like the tall part and then the long part.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I've been at a business school for a while.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: It's just the like, uh, the emoji, the smile emoji with.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Like the dollar sign, Like that's what he just calls it.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: He calls it the length and the width. And they're like, sir,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: there's nothing, nothing correlates. She's like, you see it's going
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: up half and it's going long. Why you're making money?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: What's happening? Still, he continued to keep and attract clients
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: by falsely claiming his clientele included the Sultan of Brunei,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the Rockefeller family, and Bill Cosby. Well, that's the only
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: saying selling all the jello pudding because this is the eighties.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I was about to say that is the most like
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: like peak eighties fake client portfolio.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Ever, I Rockefeller, Assaultant and Bill guys. Yeah okay. Over
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the course of two years, David collected over ten million
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: dollars from one hundred clients and friends, primarily friends of
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: his parents. Ooh damn. Now your parents can't even go
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to dinner parties. They've ruined this social reputation.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, holiday parties are gonna be awkward.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: They're getting no invice, they're gonna getting Christmas cards, nothing.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Everybody talking cash shit when they come in the country club,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to do doubles tennis with them anymore.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Like a hush falls over the dining room.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they walk into the room and it's just
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: fall silent every time. Ooh wow. But eventually David could
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: continue paying out his clients for one another. And in
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: March nineteen eighty eight, at the age of twenty three,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: he was caught in charge with mail and security spread.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: We talked about this a billion times, y'all. Don't do
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: your crime through the mail. The US Postal Service will
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: pull the fuck up and they'll put you in cups
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and drive you away. It won't even be no doors
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: on the van. Oh, he's just hanging on till you
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: get to the precinct. Okay, the mailman will put you
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: in jail. Don't do craft the mail.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Oh they're gonna throw you in the back of like
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: a little mail carrier. And I hope you don't fall
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: out on the way to jail. Okay, they've got no
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: seatbells for you.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: He was sentenced to eight years in prison and had
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to surrender forty paintings by great American artists, his two
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: million dollar East Hampton house, his upper East Side condo
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and his two cars, and one was an Aston Martin
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and the other was a Mercedes Bins. So he had
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to give up all the loot. Oh wow, that's so eighties.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: This is the most though, This is most eighties car
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Like this eighties car Now, I'm coughing
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: on hairspray, Like what that was nice for the time.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: That was like, oh he got the whip and it's
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: very long. In the eighties, they really loved a long
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: front of a car.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: It reminds me of I forget the car that they
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: drove in Ferris Buellers, but the Mercedes has that vibe.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: It does. I guess it's given sporty and aerodynamic for
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the time. But I don't know why everybody was like, hey,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: instead of having more room in the car, let's just
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: make the front so long.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: It's true. Well it's very phallic, right it is.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: It's like people will see the front of your car,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and then five minutes later they'll see you when you
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: pull up, Like why is it so long? What if
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it was a limo but for people to drive normally?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the Martin is popping and they're both red.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: So he was definitely trying to get, you know, attention.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so it's like a spider.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: You think he picked up a lot of babes in
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: those cars.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, the wind was blowing through their overly
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: processed hair, and I love that for them. I love it.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: The SEC also prohibited David for ever again working in
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the industry or associating with investment at all, so he
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: couldn't be a securities dealer, he couldn't be an investment advisor,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: and he couldn't work for any brokerage company. They were like,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you are now banned from gambling with government subsidy funds
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: from corporations who have too much money and way too
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: much help. They kicked him off the table.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, that doesn't sound that bad.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I mean eight years in the cling. That's the thing.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Financial fraud will put you in jail, jail, which I've
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: always been like. They didn't murder anybody, they stole people's money.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know how beneficial it is for taxpayer dollars
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: to go towards them being in a cushy prison. However,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: David's career fraud did not end in the eighties. He said, okay,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he was jail at twenty three. That's really young. So
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: if he only got eight years, he's getting out at
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: thirty one.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I guess at that point too, that's kind of all he.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Knows, right, and now his reputation is destroyed. So what
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: else is he gonna do but crime?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: How's he going to pick up babes anymore?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: He's walking now. They got to feel the wind through
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: their hair on the street. David was released from prison
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four, but was back in the game
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: by nineteen ninety nine. In two thousand, he was caught
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: again for grand larceny and violations of business law after
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: stealing another fifty thousand dollars and scheming to defraud at
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: least ten people. Can't stop, won't stop. He spent another
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: five years in prison and was paroled in two thousand
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and six. At this point, I feel like he's going
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: to prison. He's like, let me get that bad that
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I had last time. A few years later, he met
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: his next mark, the woman ugh no who would take
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: him to California. David met Nancy Ozias or Ozi's in
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: a Manhattan bar and immediately charmed her.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: No.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: He told her he was an investor, but offered few details.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: She was like, oh where he was like, you know, places,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: old street, the present, No details, but Nancy was wise
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: enough to look him up and discovered his criminal history.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: When she confronted him, he apologized and said he was
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: going to change.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Sure, they all do, Nancy, right.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Nancy, I'll change for you. I know I've been to
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: jail several times. But now now that I'm with you,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I'm different. Oh is this them together? Nancy? You are
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: so cute to let this man do this to you.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: That's an They're an interesting match.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Nancy probably was a powerful woman who was lonely, and
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: she was like, look, I'm just trying to get consistent
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Dick in the crazy New York streets.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: She was like, I just want to be with a
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: man who's comfortable being a little bit shorter than me,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and I don't because I don't care about.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: That, doesn't mind when I wear heels. Yes, we stand
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: a short king.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: We do? You know?
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I think I'm coming around to David now.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: He's so ambitious. We love him, David, what's your number?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: We call him?
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: So.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: The two married in two thousand and nine and moved
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: to Los Angeles in twenty eleven. No, Nancy, Nancy, the
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: flags were.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: There and you found them. But it wasn't true love.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe, but it seems like he needed her more than
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: she needed him. Well yeah, yeah, and that's when men
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: want to get married straight ones at least.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Like you are too good for me.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Somebody get the government involved right now. I want to
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: make it difficult for her to lee.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Exactly. You'll have to get lawyers in order to bring
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: this up right, and.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: It will take so much time and so much more
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: money than when we got married. So he struggled to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: find work, though according to Nancy, she didn't see him
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: running any scams at the time. He eventually lost his
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: job at an ad firm, but money continued to roll in,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: and they lived in a million dollar loft in Venice.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I love how what just white man they persevere. You
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: haven't been to jail fifty eleven times. Then scammed his
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: whole all his cousins, all his parents, friends and family,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and yet he gets an ad sales job and now
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: he's living in a million dollar home with Nancy. So
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Nancy gets frustrated, but was stuck in a marriage her
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: family and friends didn't approve of. On the other side
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: of the country. Yeah, that's why he wanted to marry
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you girls, so he can make it difficult for you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: to run away. Imagine coming home you married a man.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: They're sitting all your couch eating wise potato chips. Oh no,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: not the wise watching daytime TV. You tie, you come
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: home feet her and you've been working all day fighting
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the patriarch.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: And they're like, hey, bo, hey, nanch how's the Afish.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I put in a bunch of job applications today. I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: haven't heard anything back yet. Yeah, David, it's been it's
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: been three year. You need to get a job. Look,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: bab of trying, just nobody wants to hie.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: And then and you know what he does.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: She's a suffirmative action. Black people are taking all the jobs, bab.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I bet that's the point when he like breaks down
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: and he's like, you know, I'm trying.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: You know I am.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Nancy.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I love you, Nancy. Come on, Nancy, how need your
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: gucha tonight?
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Come on, white potato chips.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: So the bubble finally popped when in twenty seventeen, Nancy
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: came home to find a collection of notices for credit
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: cards that had been opened in her name, not see.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: This is why you cannot if you see the flags,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: if you see that you were dealing with a hobosexual,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: you cannot do it. It's not worth the companionship. They
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: always will fuck up your Credit's the first thing they
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: go for. They will ruin your credit. So he had
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: been paying for his international business trips and vacations with
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Nancy's money, so when she thought he had money, he
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: was really swiping cards in her name. I mean, Nancy,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: how did you not notice that when he pulled out
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the billfold you didn't check any of the receipts where
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: yall had. You're like, Nate, why does this say Nancy?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Nance, I'm nance.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I at least hope that David could fuck because if
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: he couldn't, then what are we even doing. So at
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the same time, David was swindling at least two Venice
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: business owners out of one hundred thousand dollars after he
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: offered to help them earn returns when a large amount
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: of equipment was stolen from them. So he stepped in
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and was like, oh, I work with your insurance. No, no, no,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you don't need to get on the phone with State Farm.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I got no, no, no, no, They're gonna be able
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to check to my house and then I will rerouted
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: And they were like, that sounds great.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: So after David ghosted them, they sued him and Nancy
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: both for fraud, believing she was in on it. Nancy
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: filed for divorce in June twenty seventeen. Damn Nancy, finally
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: this man drunk you too, hell fucked up your credit.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Now you in court looking crazy, all for this man
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: that you knew was a two time criminal when you
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: met him.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I just remembered Nancy did her homework at first.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yep, and caught him as a scammer, and yet believed
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: him when he told her he would reform.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: What okay?
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: And nothing nothing about his behavior, like I'm sorry if
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I catch you. It's just not enough charm in the world.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: There's not enough charm in the world. And look, this
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: is not discrimination against anybody who's been in the car
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: soial system, because a lot of people end up there
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: because of the circumstances they're born in or what they
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: look like, how they identify. There's a lot of reasons
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that people get wrapped up into what our government is doing,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: which is basically still slavery. But this man when to
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: jail for eight years for fraud and then came out
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and said, let me do a little let me get
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: it one more piece, and went back again. I'm sorry,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: two strikes, no no, And he had enough resources to
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: obviously get other jobs. He got a job at an
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: ad sales firm. He came from privilege. There's no excuse, Nancy,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: you brought this on yourself. Sis. I'm so sorry, but
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I know sometimes we'd be down bad. It's lonely out
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: here and cold, and you know that that that body
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: pillow can only do so much. Nancy. You gotta go
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: get you a vibrator or some sis, because the vibrate.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: And a vibrator, yep, get.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Won't get you sued, okay, and keep you warm at
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: night and you can go to sleep easy. So David
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: admitted to the fraud and the case against him settled
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. For several months in twenty twenty one,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: David resurface making die so he was going to dive
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: bar like the frolic Room, and he would make it
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: his office. He once again promised wind falls to anyone
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: who fell for his lives. That he could sell them
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: stocks before they went public. So now he's like, I'm
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: on the inside of inside of training. You thought Martha
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Stewart knew. Nah, I'm your guy. One anonymous restaurant owner
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: gave David thirty thousand dollars for early access to shares
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: of Soo House, a member's only club in West Hollywood.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: After the restaurant went out of business, the shares and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the property David also tried to offer them didn't exist. Duh, yeah,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: when is anything existed?
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: That's what you get for wanting like an early and
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: on Soho House.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Right, you know, and making a snoppy rich people club.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Let me get it early and on that. David was
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: like imagination, that's all. He was operating on imagination and charm.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: At the time, David was living at the luxury Villa
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Carlotta Apartments in Franklin Village, across from the Church of
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Scientology celebrity Center. I know exactly where this is. Damn, David,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: are they not even a good grift? They're cute and like,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Franklin Village is cute many, especially during this time. I'm
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: over there a lot. There's a uc BE Franklin over there,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: so I'm over there a lot. So he made the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: right choice. Many of his neighbors would become his victims,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: which ended up being his downfall yet again. So he's
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I got popping neighbors everybody. I know
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: what they rent costs. I know what it costs to
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: live over here. They got money, and I'm gonna get
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: it from them. Several residents who hadn't seen returns on
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: their investments started talking, and eventually one did a Google
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: search on David, which turned up his criminal pass. Why
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you do a Google search on anybody before you
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: give them your money.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing a.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Google search on people before I give them my Coolchi,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely doing a Google search before I give you
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: my money.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I'm so curious, Like, what kind of charisma he has? Right,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: because it doesn't come through pho photos.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but oftentimes it doesn't, right because some people.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: You know, listen, that's what I tell people about my photos,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: that my curacy doesn't come through.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: No, but wait till you see me though.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: You see me now, I'm on in photos. I look
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: like scraps, okay, but you get me, get me live.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: There's a little bit more there. All right, you're gonna
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: like it. You're gonna be enticed, Okay, I promise you.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: They confronted him at his apartment, where he denied the scam,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: then promise to pay them in the morning. Yes, angry mob,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: y'all better get pitched forks. Y'all better go to hobby
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: lobby and get some torches, teaky torches and show pull up.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I love an angry mob. I wish I could see
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the email thread of like, okay, so when is everyone
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: available to do the angry mob at David's house Wednesdays
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: at APM? Work great for me? I can I can
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: make a win to meet. We can make a Google.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Doc like we got this, you know that and it
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: was just an endless, endless scheduling thread.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Let's make a WhatsApp because you know, Craig still got
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: an Android and we can we can coordinate this. We
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: can schedule our angry mob. So David moved out not
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: long after dub because all his neighbors hated him and
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: all of the neighbors slash victims were seeking restitution. Oh,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I know that next door app was bouble Oh. For
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: the following year, he continued to bounce around Hollywood napping
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: similar small thefts. He was arrested on suspicion of twelve
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: counts of grand theft on August ninth, twenty twenty two,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: and released after posting forty five thousand dollars bail. This
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: man is still out here, oh okay since the eighties.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: My guy has been robbing people for almost forty years.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: That is a career. This is hall of fame.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: It is wild how he is able to just kind
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: of seems like bounced just in and now the car
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: socol system, like he's just like, oh you got me again, fellas.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: All right, here's forty five k all right, let me hearkay, like.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Keep playing Cops and robbers. He's like tag, oh, I
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: mean okay, I'll see I at the precinct, like what sir.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: His case is currently being reviewed for charging, and his
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: current activities are unknown, which means, you know, he is
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: still out here in these streets and these called the
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: sacks and these boulevards. Rabbit people.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Lacy, I bet he was the guy Doris called about
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: the firestick.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: He had an official sounding voice.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: He's got small grips, he's got large grips. He's the
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: scammer who took over my Twitter account. He's hard at work.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: This man is the hardest working man in crime. Okay,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: he needs to retire with a full four oh one.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: K Okay, give this man his social security because he's
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: earned it. Okay. No one's working harder in crime. No
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: one's more dedicated.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's just bored when he's not scamming.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Because you don't do this for this long, especially if
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: he had other opportunities, like the advertising firm, like the
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: rich wife Nancy. He could have just laid up with Nancy,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: gave her some good dick, rubbed her shoulders, you know,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: listen to her stories about how you know Janelle in
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: accounting is trying to thwart her business, and you know
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: he could have just stopped. He had so many opportunities
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: to stop. So he has a passion. It's got a
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: passion for fraud. Okay, he can't stop. It's his calling.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: One victim said, he already went to prison. It's not
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: going to change anything. He doesn't know how to work differently.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Now that victim, you're right, yeah, because this is how
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: he works. This is his talent. Why would he give
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: up his skill. He's perfected it. He got all the y'all.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine robbing people where I live. That just
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: feels so precarious, Like I checked my mail, I'm gonna
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: get accosted by a mob like that just feels I'm
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: not gonna rob.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's the same thing you did to Nancy, right,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah he was.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: He was living with her and robbing her. So you're right,
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  Speaker 1: And that's even worse. You're going to bed every night
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: next to the person that you are robbing, Like, oh,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: you want to watch Jimmy Vallen boo. Also, what's your
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  Speaker 1: mom's favorite car? What's the first elementary school you went to? Baby?
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  Speaker 1: I just want to know more about you.
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  Speaker 4: You know me?
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  Speaker 3: The name of your first pet? I love that story?
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  Speaker 1: It was my favorite. It was a bird, right, let's
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  Speaker 1: have me more about it. And also the name and
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  Speaker 1: the spelling and did you use any caps when he's
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  Speaker 1: about it? What's your favorite two numbers to put in
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  Speaker 1: a password? At the end? My baby, how is work?
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  Speaker 1: What's your favorite special character?
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  Speaker 3: What this is?
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: It's terrible, But guys, that brings us to the saddest
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: part of the show, the end where I have to
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: let Christen go. But before we do that scammer of
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the week, this is where we honor a charlatan who's
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: worthy of our praise or maybe not. We'll see, might
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: be a business, might be a group of people. We'll sing.
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  Speaker 1: So today we're talking about professional cornhole. Okay, that's just
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: like a whole thing. Okay. So it's been rocked by
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: controversy after illegal beanbags were used in the twenty twenty
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: two American Cornhole League World Championship in August. So if
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: you don't know what cornhole is, you probably don't have
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: many white friends.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: I do. I feel like the ven diagram of cornhole
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: players and pickleball enthusiasts is closed to the circle.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: They're both in the circle. Yeah, you know, cornhole is
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: white people's bades. Okay, you go to any white people
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: cook out, they gonna have them cornholes poppin. If you
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: don't know what it is, it's like you separate these
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: two wooden boxes away from each other, and the boxes
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: have holes in them at the top. So the point
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: of the games, you throw a bean back and you
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: want to land the bean back through someone else's hole.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: That's how you get the most points. But if you
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: throw a bean back and you land it on the
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: box and not in the hole, that still counts for
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: like lesser points. I'm doing this. I'm not reading anything, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I just I played a lot of corn hole in
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: my life. Also, you can knock off points from the
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: other team by throwing a bean bag and knocking like
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: a bean back off of bears, like you know what
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, kind of like with croquete, like you can
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: kind of like knock there. Yeah, so you can also
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: like help yourself win that way. But yeah, you're literally
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: never gonna go to a white barbecue function and not
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: see corn hole, not if they're the real ones. Okay,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: so I didn't know that they had a professional I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: mean they had a professional everything. You can go to
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: the Olympics for power walking, So why am I shocked?
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I also love that the sponsor is Bush's Baked Beans
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: and it's just the burl and there's one guy who's
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: jacked wearing you know, Bush's Baked Beans across and.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Epsom salts, the two key season like barbecue. It's just
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: the girl with the umbrella. So the incident has been
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: dubbed bag gait and came with a fifteen thousand dollars
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: cash prize at stake, so you know, when you get
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: money involved, like, people will find a way to cheat
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: if they can't. Player Devin Harberg has complained that a
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: rival component Mark Richards and Philip Lopez, used bags that
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: were smaller than regulation during the finals. So if the
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: bag smaller, you can go through the hole easier, because
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it'll like bounce off the hole, land
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: right on the whole and a little bit of a
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: bag will go in but not the whole piece. I
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: know what's happening here. Officials investigated on the spot and
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: determined that none of the bag used by either team
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: were regulations. So y'all tried to snitch and hey, y'all
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: bags were not regulation either. Wow, that's some audacity. How
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: are you gonna be cheating and be like look over there.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I from the looks of these guys too, I'm just
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: imagining like their you know, secret bean bag like meetups
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: of like, oh dude, we want to suff the bags
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: like they're very they're very bro like.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: I want to hear them talking about like.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, also, I want to imagine bros like in the
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: basement sewing like I got my grandma's sewing machine. We're
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: not losing the fifteen k this year. Bro give me
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: those little lead weights. I know, I went on pictures.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I learned how to sew on YouTube. Let's do it.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Oh man, you have a thimble like I always poke
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: my thumb.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah it hurt. Also, why is the professional Cornhole League
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: letting you bring your own bean bags in the first place.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: That's a great question, Lacy that because that seems like
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: isn't that part of like with professional sports, like they
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: supply you're not bringing your own basketball to an NBA game.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Right, Lebron don't come his own Notice the ball I
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: like to use. No, they have holls there.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: So this is kind of on the lead because why
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: are y'all let them bring their own bags? Anyway?
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: That's because it's this corn hole.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're right now, got a budget that high, got
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: that happen. We're doing this cornhole league, but we ain't
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: got enough money for all these bags. So y'all gonna
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: bring your own bags. Well, you know, they're your own
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: corn holes.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Wood prices are pretty high right now, and they need
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: that just to like build the little you know, the court.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: If you would like to throw on grass, Please go
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: to home depot and get your own astro turf and
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: unroll it.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Like what.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: So this whole thing is a scam. It's also giving
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: that the cornhole of you know, championship is a scam itself.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: So according to the ACL regulations, cornhole bags must be
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: six by six inches when laid flat and weigh sixteen ounces.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: With my violations tolerated because dug, y'all scam it. Two.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: You told people to bring their own bag. It's not publics,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: this is not Ralphs. We don't bring our own bags.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Provide the bags. The bags used were thinner, which was
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: advantageous by the players because if it's a thinner bag,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: then the weight of it isn't gonna sit if it's
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: on the side of the hole, so part of it
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: goes in the hole. It's all gonna slide in the hole,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: according to the According to the ACO, top players earned
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: as much as two hundred and fifty thousand a year
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: from winnings, sponsorship deals, endorsements, meaning that players sometimes do
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: anything they can to give them a leg up in
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: the fast growing sport. Oh Man two d and fifty k.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of money, but you're gonna have to
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: be wearing a lot of bushes baked bean.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Logos like a NASCAR player. But it's just it's not
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: even ebsence, I said Epsen. I don't even know what
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: the name of the little girl with in the salt
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: is a little more salt girl.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: I like it as epsin salt though, because it's like, oh,
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: that's for baths. It's like tough day after full day
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: of bagging.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: You to see right if your bag throwing arm is
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: getting sore epsin salt. I imagine they're sponsored by the
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: most random people, maybe like Tomato Ketchup, Like, hi, you
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: get involved.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe I can see like an axe body spray.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would definitely get involved. Oh that's a
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: good sponsorship pitch. I'm trying to think. Who else a
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: red Bull? I feel like they do anything over there.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Would it be.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like red Bull might get Cornholers too amped, you.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Know, monsters. Who's the sports and the sports drink for Cornhole?
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's an energy drink for sure.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Mountain dew, Oh yeah, do the do do the do
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: bag the bag, do the work it out?
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: But these likely. The players involved deny that they boiled
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: their bags, which can cause shrinkage, and the tournament was
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: allowed to continue. They were like, we don't care.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: They're out your boiling bags.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Boiling bags. I guess we thought that you sewing machines.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Apparently it's more scientific than that.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: We got little lab coats beakers.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: The next white barbecue I go to, I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: one second, I just need to go in the kitchen
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: real quick with all my going old bags. Y'all got
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: a pot, it's just boiled. Why are your bags hot? Lacy,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Like you're throwing them in the hat and they're wet.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Really small, and they're really hot.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: They're really hot. And I got splashed when it landed
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: on the board. Yeah, you know what. I love this.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Mark Richards won the Pro Singles and Philip Lopez won
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the Pro blind Draw, which is where partners draw blindly.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: So wow, I mean it looks like y'all were caught
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: for scamming. And then because the whole tournament is a scam,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: they're like, you guys, you little rap scallions, y'all get
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: out there which a little boiled bags, this cornhole, who
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: gives a fuck? I love that for everyone involved. And
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I also love that when they got caught they were
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: just like whah and let them keep going.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Don't don't boil the bags, fellas.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Guys, Next time, just don't don't boil the bags. But
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: that's fine right now? Like what why even do the
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: work of investigating is when you get the results, you
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: don't care.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got a lot of questions for Big Cornhole.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Big Cornhole is corrupt. I'm upset about that. If
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: anywhere I thought they were being honest and true, it
• 1:00:46
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• 1:00:49
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