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#68: Terrifier (2016) with special guest David Howard Thornton · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  What's your least favorite scary movie?
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  Welcome to watching the Least Favorite Scary Movie, the
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  podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, and the
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  absurd and all our favorite and least favorite.
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  Scary movies because we believe every horror movie rightfully
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  has its fan base. Even if we don't always get it.
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  My name is Travis. My name is Jessie, and today we
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  have a very special episode for everybody because we are talking
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  20 Sixteen's Terrifier. But we also have a very special
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  guest with us today. Yes, and we will introduce him
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  shortly, but we wanted to. We go ahead and get some of our
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  usual business out of the way. To that end, I'm going to go
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  ahead and unplug our socials up top.
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  So we don't forget at the end we've got a website.
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  What's your least favorite scarymovie.com?
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  Should be really easy. You know the name of our
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  podcast, justadda.com. And there you go, we've got an
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  Instagram least favorite scary movie podcast.
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  Almost our name. Not quite, but easy enough.
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  We've got our Twitter least fave pod.
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  That severely reduced. But Twitter has like crazy
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  character limits for your username.
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  We have a TikTok and I will not ever ever tell any of you what
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  our TikTok handle is. Don't you dare ask.
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  Don't ask. How dare you?
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  How? Dare you even imply I should
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  tell you what our TikTok handle is?
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  I do not have any other announcements today.
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  OK, I'm gonna blast through the polls real quick.
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  The poll this week was The zombie apocalypse Happens,
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  You're in the Dawn of the Dead 2004 remake universe.
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  Are you an Anna or are you a Dick like Steve everybody Dick.
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  Like Steve, Jessie is a Dick. Like Steve, everybody except for
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  one other person chose Anna. We had one person request to be
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  Chips the dog. That's our friend Taylor.
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  And Aquile Boobs wants to be the guy that is the organ player
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  that tries on high heels. Listen, I respect the
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  out-of-the-box thinking, but you're not following the rules.
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  There's a formula, people. A very simple formula.
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  I'm throwing that Randy logic at people right now.
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  I think I've said that like three times in the past 12
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  hours. You really have, actually.
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  Yeah, I haven't kept count, but that sounds right.
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  Yeah, if anybody is curious, that was Talia's squeaky toy at
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  the beginning. Because I don't have a tricycle
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  horn, no. And dog toy is the next best
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  thing. Yeah, it works.
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  I'm surprised Talia was OK with you borrowing her toy.
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  She hasn't objected yet. I mean, she likes the movie.
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  I think she wanted to participate.
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  I think that's great. She wanted to contribute.
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  Speaking of, we actually own this movie.
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  On a still book, Blu-ray. Yes, we I got it as a it was a
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  Valentine's Day gift, so lovingly as a Valentine's Day
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  gift last year. And yes, it was very special.
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  Yeah, and I got you the frame to go with the poster.
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  Guess we have him right behind me.
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  We have so many coins right behind me.
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  Yeah, he's staring at you. It's fun.
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  But if you do not have this, although I am gonna say it's
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  really fun because at the home screen it makes a little honky
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  sound. Yeah, yeah, it does that.
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  But if you don't have that, nor do you want.
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  That it's fine because this movie is fairly accessible.
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  You can stream it on to be Plex, Voodoo or the Roku Channel, or
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  you can rent it from YouTube or Google Play for a small fair
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  fee. All right, so no excuse.
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  It's free. You can watch it online.
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  You should watch it online because it's a very entertaining
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  movie. And let's go ahead and bang out
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  the cast and crew here. So this was written and directed
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  by Damian Lyon. They consented to be banged out.
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  If you consent, please continue. If not, you know you don't have
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  to get banged. It's OK.
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  Thank you. So all right.
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  Written and directed by Damian Lyon.
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  He had previously. Created the art.
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  The clown character? Yes, in several short thumbs.
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  Yes, called terrifier and also all.
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  How was Eve? Which was the?
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  9th circle The 9th circle Ooh, I haven't seen that.
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  I need to watch out. But yeah, it's a character that
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  was preexisting for a while now. They wanted to give him a
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  feature film, so they did that with this one.
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  He also does the special effects for this right here.
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  He started out as a special effects guy.
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  So it's kind of cool. It does.
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  The effects are amazing in this movie.
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  For what I assume is a fairly low budget film, is this bug
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  Ted. This is bug Ted and OK, so
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  first. I just want to say.
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  I'm not trying to jump into the bug set, I'm just saying the
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  special effects it's yeah for. Top tier for the budget?
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  Yes, absolutely. So music is done by Paul Wiley.
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  I think that this movie has a very effective score too.
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  And yes, this is Bug Ted. I'm gonna bring this up.
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  I think I have something I need to ask David while I have him
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  here because there have been recent things about.
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  Have you revealed that that's who our special guest is?
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  No. Yes.
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  Yeah. So I'm going to ask him about
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  that. But supposedly online it's
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  showing that the bug Ted is $35,000.
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  Hot Nam, Yes. Very, very small bug, Ted.
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  But yeah, we'll talk about that here in a little bit.
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  And let's go ahead with the cast and crew or we already got the
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  crew. Let's get the cast here.
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  So we have Jenna Canal as Tara Hayes, Samantha scoffed as
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  Vicki, Catherine Krikoran as Don, Matt McAllister as Mike the
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  Exterminator, and introducing David Howard Thornton as Art the
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  Clown. Hell yeah.
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  And before we get into our interview, special guests, yes.
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  So let's go ahead and drop our pre ratings here.
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  Jesse, what do you got? Yes, I'm gonna save a lot of my
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  thoughts for while we're talking to David, but I enjoy this
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  movie. It's grimy, it's nasty, it's
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  dirty. There are moments of it that I
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  have to love critically, and I'm sure we will talk about that at
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  some point during this, but overall, I think it's simple,
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  but it's effective, yes. So I'm gonna give it AN88.
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  All right, cool. This movie is one of my personal
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  favorites. I am a whore for killer clowns,
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  and you don't really get a lot of good killer clown movies
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  these days and you don't really get a lot.
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  Honestly, it's kind of weird. You feel like that would be a
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  super popular subject for horror movies, but I don't know, maybe
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  I'm just missing them. But when you do get them,
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  they're usually pretty shitty. This one right here, it nails
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  the look, it nails the creep factor, it nails the gore, the
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  effects and everything is amazing.
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  I I really like this movie. I think it is very light on the
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  story, but I don't think it really needs the story.
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  Not a lot of plot to get in the way of the story.
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  No, there's not. But having said that, I think
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  I'm gonna give this one A9. Nice.
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  All right. So we're starting off with an
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  8.5. I'm curious to see how our
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  discussion goes. All right.
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  We're very excited to share people's reviews with David.
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  Yes, we are. All right.
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  So let's get right on into it. All right.
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  We would like to welcome live and in person over the Internet,
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  a very special guest, David Howard Thornton.
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  David, thank you so much for being here with us today.
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  Thank you. I don't know why I tried to wave
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  at my computer right now and like you can't see me, so I do
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  that all the time too. So I appreciate it.
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  No, I'm getting to that age now. OK, so we we have a very, the
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  way that we usually do this podcast is we usually kind of go
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  through the events of things in the movie, like chronologically
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  from start to finish. But I kind of figured this time
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  we're just going to have like a chat in general, you know?
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  Yeah. Cool.
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  Sounds good to me. Yeah.
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  I mean, it doesn't even have to strictly be terrified, you know,
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  we just just happy to have you here to talk.
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  We're. Terrified too.
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  Yeah, we're terrified. What is that movie?
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  I don't. When is that coming out?
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  I don't know. So I guess we'll go ahead and
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  we'll get the obvious questions out of the way.
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  How did you come to be involved in Terrifier?
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  I just looked upon an audition notice they had online, looking
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  for a tall, skinny guy with a experience in physical comedy or
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  clowning to play art. And I was like, this is perfect
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  for me. So I convinced my agents to
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  submit me for it and the rest was history.
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  Nice. That's yeah, cuz that's
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  something we like in advance. We watched some of the previous
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  ones, like all How was Eve And the previous terrifier, short
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  stuff like that. We definitely noticed the
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  difference in the physicality between the previous arts
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  interpretation and yours and your way.
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  Like, I don't know, It's crazy how much acting you're doing
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  without actually saying anything.
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  Yeah, I I guess you could say I I learned from the best and just
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  applied it and made it my own, you know, So I I, I grew up
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  watching the great, you know, physical comedians of, you know,
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  cinema from like the silent film era all the way up to, you know,
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  like Rowan Atkinson, Jim Carrey and Doug Jones.
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  So it's like I I applied a lot of that to my interpretation of
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  art as well as I I was very fortunate for five years to
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  understudy Stephan Karl from like he was Rob Rotten from
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  Lacey Town. I I toured with him for five
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  years on How the Grinch Stole Christmas, The Musical.
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  Oh, nice. Yeah.
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  And and Stefan was, you know, professionally trained in
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  clowning and physical comedy. And so, I mean, I I literally
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  learned from the best in the business right there.
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  As like as he was just amazing at what he did, he had a mastery
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  over his body and really knew how to just add that extra oomph
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  to a scene. And that's what I applied to
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  arts because I had come straight from.
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  Basically the year before I had finished that tour and I was
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  like, you know, that was fresh in my mind.
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  So I was like, yeah, let's apply a lot of what I learned from
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  Stefan to art. It really comes through like I
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  no shade at all to Matt Gianelli cuz I think he did really good
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  as art in All Hallows Eve, but there's a definite almost like
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  attention to the physicality that you put into your art.
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  Yeah. Well, yeah.
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  Well, Mike set like a very good foundation for me.
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  And so I just built upon what he already laid the groundwork for.
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  How did it? How did it feel having to take
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  over that character? Cuz I think when Al hollows Eve,
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  that was definitely the part of the movie that stood out.
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  I know at least to us. And we watched it, so we were
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  really hyped for terrifier. Yeah, it was very, very much a
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  daunting task for me, cuz. I'm a fanboy myself of different
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  genres and you know, things, you know, like Joker and stuff like
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  that. So I I know how I am when a new
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  actor comes in, taking over a role from somebody.
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  And I can be I I keep saying I can be so judgmental.
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  I can be nasty. I'm like, Oh no, that's all
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  going to come back and bite me in the butt now.
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  And so that that was my big fears.
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  Like, Oh my gosh, how are the fans going to respond to my
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  interpretation of art? I was very worried about that.
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  So I wanted to keep true to what he had done but just make
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  embellishments on what he had done.
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  And but I I was definitely, definitely, you know, nervous.
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  Have you ever been in contact with him?
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  Have you guys talked about the role together?
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  Yeah, yeah, We've chatted some online.
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  We've actually still never met in person, and we live in the
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  same city, which is so funny. Yeah, he's like one of Damien's
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  best friends from childhood and we still have not met yet.
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  I'm like, I keep on telling Damien we need to somehow put
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  him into one of the future films, like some kind of cameo
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  or something. That's so.
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  Fun. Yeah, I would love that.
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  Plus I would just love to sit down and chat with him and stuff
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  like that in person. He became a dad recently, in the
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  past year or so, during the pandemic, so that's so he's got
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  new stuff going on in his life right now.
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  Man, jealous. I feel like my life just kind of
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  holds it with the pandemic. Yeah, yeah.
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  It's like, wow. That's that's great for him.
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  I I wanna have kids myself one day.
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  I just haven't lucked out and find the right person to do that
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  with yet, so. Speaking of the Joker and
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  different people doing different characterizations, who is your
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  favorite Joker? Mark Hamill by far yes.
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  Yeah you can't you can't beat him.
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  That's just like, Nah, that's that's no question no dumb like
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  he and see Mark has had you know.
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  Access to that character for almost 30 years now.
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  So he has spent all this time continuing to evolve the
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  character and find new nuances with him and he and he keeps on
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  just impressing me with his performances with them.
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  It's like, it's always fun to go back and watch the like the
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  first episodes of Batman The Animated Series and hear the
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  difference between his voice then versus what he does with
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  the voice now. It's just it's night and day.
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  In some ways it's like he almost sounds normal is the in the
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  first few episodes and he'd see him continually evolve the
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  character, especially in the Arkham games.
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  He really took it to a new life. Oh, yes, yeah.
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  Yeah. It's always.
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  It blows my mind anytime I hear like I find out that that's him
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  because it sounds so different from its normal voice.
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  It does. It does.
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  Especially like the version he does now, as opposed to like
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  what he was doing back then all. Right.
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  Cool. You passed the test.
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  You picked the correct joker. Yeah, you've done voice work
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  too, right? Yes, yes, yes, oddly enough for
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  a lot of little shows, for the little ones, which is really
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  funny. The opposite end of the
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  spectrum, career wise for me. Yeah, you cover a full range of
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  very adult. Silent acting and you go to the
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  other range of child friendly voice acting.
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  Yeah, and usually like animals and stuff like that.
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  I'm kind of like like Frank Welker, who does all those
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  animal sounds for most everything.
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  For years, like decades, Frank has been doing that kind of.
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  He was always a big influence on me, cuz I just love what he
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  does. I mean, of course, he's really
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  known for Fred from scooby-doo. I mean, he was like.
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  Abu and Aladdin, Dr. Claw, you name it, He did it, basically.
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  Yeah, nice. He's just he's such a talented
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  voice actor. I don't realize Fred and Abu
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  were the same voice actor. Yeah, same.
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  That's blowing my mind right now.
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  Yeah, he was also the voice of Megatron Dan, dude, That's.
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  Farmers. Yeah, That's a really good
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  filmography right there. Yeah.
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  Dude, you need an IMDb Frank Welker.
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  I mean, like the man's resume is like a mile long and it's your
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  whole entire childhood. Wow.
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  All right, I'm gonna do that. I'll fall down an IMDb rabbit
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  hole. So I'm gonna have to do that
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  after we're done here. So you.
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  Will be blown away. So like, did you ever have like
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  any intentions on getting into horror whenever you were acting?
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  Because like that. I mean, it seems like you've run
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  away with it at this point. I kind of, I see people like
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  they're casting you in all their other horror related projects.
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  You know, that kind of happens whenever you have a big
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  character in the genre, so. No, that was never my goal.
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  I I my whole entire life. I always did comedy and musical
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  theater, so that was my focus. It's like doing stuff with
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  voice, silly voices or like being the song and dance guy.
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  So because I was, I was trying to be honest with myself when it
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  came to horror, I was like, you know, I I I don't have the body
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  type. To really do horror, unless I'm
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  a victim, I'm like the Randy type of character.
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  I'm not usually, you wouldn't really think of me as like the
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  horror iconic killer. So I was like, wow, So yeah, I
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  never, you know, I would, you know, I had always wanted to
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  play a character like that. I thought that would be
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  incredible to play something like Freddy Krueger or something
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  like that. But I was like, ah, it's there
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  very, very slim, you know? So no, that was never my focus.
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  I am. When I first moved to New York,
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  I was really focused on trying to get on Broadway and doing
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  animation work. Oh, nice.
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  Like, actually, Terrifier was my first real film too.
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  So I had done some extra work, you know, here or there, but
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  never anything substantial. So I mean, this was a real foot
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  in the door for me. I guess you could say it's kind
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  of crazy how that happens, like the horror life chose you.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I I did a lot of learning
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  real quick on set about both just film in general and also
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  horror. I mean, I was a horror fan, but
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  you know, still there's a lot to learn.
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  Did you take any like influence from any characters necessarily
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  whenever you were doing this? Oh yeah, definitely.
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  I mean, if, you know, I I kind of looked at art as being like a
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  fanboy of all the slasher icons that came before him.
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  So there's little bits and pieces of every single.
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  Killer like from Freddy. Jason Chucky.
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  Pinhead, leather face. Hannibal Lecter.
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  There's Jigsaw. All that inside of art.
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  I can definitely see the Freddy influence.
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  That's kind of sense of humor there, which I guess really
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  makes sense given that you. Really.
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  We're starting out in comedy? Yeah.
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  Obviously the Hannibal Lecter piece, we get there too.
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  And the Jigsaw. I can see a lot of those
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  influences. Just very calculating.
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  Yeah. Terrifying and smart at the same
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  time. Yes.
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  Yeah, but he's also a little. He bumbles around some, too,
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  which I love about him. That's kind of like a common
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  thing with like the slasher, yeah, villain type thing.
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  I don't know, especially Ghostface.
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  Like you see that, like people like, yeah, notorious for
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  stumbling around all the time, you know?
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  Yeah, no, I think it kind of makes them more relatable too.
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  It makes them more human in some ways, where it's like, yeah,
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  they're not just perfect killing machines, they have their flaws
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  too. But I think that makes it far
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  more entertaining. That was something that Jesse
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  kind of like was talking about last night.
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  Like the like, she wanted to know if you had like some kind
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  of background in mind for the character, like whenever you
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  were doing that. So it's.
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  Kind of cool. So many, so many people I was
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  pulling from. I I mean, I I basically, in my
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  head looked at him as being the bastard child of Freddy Krueger
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  and Harper Marks. All right.
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  I would also say he's kind of like an evil version of Mr.
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  Bean. That was a good influence, Mr.
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  Bean. Yeah, I.
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  Love that, yeah, cuz he has that very child.
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  Mischievous type of nature to him like that too, but he's a
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  lot more vicious than Mr. Bean ever would be.
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  You know, that's not not the comparison I would have come up
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  with, but now that you've said it, I can totally see it.
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  Yeah, it's gonna you totally see it, Yeah.
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  So what about? There's kind of a supernatural
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  element to art, too. Definitely, definitely.
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  So I'm yeah. Is there more coming to that in
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  future movies, or is it just gonna be left kind of
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  unexplained? No.
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  No, no, we fully embrace that in Part 2.
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  I mean, I don't want you to think he's gonna be just like
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  teleporting and levitating things and stuff like that.
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  No, no, no. We still try to keep it grounded
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  in reality in that way. But it's like, but you know,
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  Damien figure, you know is like with.
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  With slasher icons, you always have to kill them off.
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  At some point. The good guy has to win somehow
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  or something like that, but you have to find a way to bring them
• 20:11
  back. And it's always a lot of films
• 20:14
  try to hem and haul around the whole supernatural aspect of it,
• 20:18
  but we're like, let's go ahead and just fully embrace that.
• 20:21
  So that's what we did when we added that scene of the corner
• 20:24
  scene. And then Terrifier was just
• 20:26
  like, Okay, Yeah, we're just gonna go ahead and embrace it.
• 20:29
  There is something more going on here than MCI with this
• 20:32
  character. And so, and we go with that
• 20:36
  whole idea in Part 2. Okay.
• 20:39
  Yeah, I love that decision too, because it's a pretty creepy
• 20:42
  scene, honestly. I like the.
• 20:45
  It's kind of a total power move to just normally, like you said,
• 20:50
  the killer gets killed off by the good guys in some way, shape
• 20:54
  or form. But art just kind of takes
• 20:56
  himself out and it Art is art. Was he aware of his own
• 21:01
  supernatural nature in that moment, or was it just kind of a
• 21:07
  I don't have my own terms. We we might explore more in the
• 21:11
  future films in a way. I don't really necessarily think
• 21:14
  that he knew he would come back from that.
• 21:18
  I I see that as him just taking the power away from everybody
• 21:22
  else and be like how you you think you've got me.
• 21:24
  Fuck you. I'm gonna do it myself, not give
• 21:26
  you the satisfaction of stopping me, but it is like I kind of
• 21:31
  look like he might be a little bit surprised to be back from
• 21:34
  the dead, but I think that's gonna add a little extra
• 21:36
  confidence to him and cockiness. Like, he needs more of that.
• 21:40
  Yeah, exactly. He's like, wow, wow, I can't be
• 21:43
  killed. This is great.
• 21:45
  I think that will enable him to take more risks in the future.
• 21:48
  He's just like, wow, OK, I can be a little bit more gutsy with
• 21:52
  what I'm doing now. I think that's one of the things
• 21:54
  I really like about the character as well is that he's
• 21:57
  very much. A wild card doesn't really have
• 22:02
  a set mo, because the movie starts off all of these really
• 22:05
  elaborate kills. We've got Steve and the pizza
• 22:08
  place, the whole Jack O Lantern face.
• 22:12
  We've got Dawn and her infamous scene, so all of these elaborate
• 22:17
  setups, and then Tara just gets shot in the head.
• 22:20
  Yeah, she just gets shot. Yeah, it feels so.
• 22:23
  Atlantic, yeah. I love how overkill that scene
• 22:26
  is too. It's just like pop, pop, pop.
• 22:29
  Oh yeah, that's. I remember like there was a
• 22:31
  controversy around that scene because people like, Oh no,
• 22:33
  that's breaking the slasher code.
• 22:35
  You shouldn't be using the gun, which is totally untrue.
• 22:38
  Guns have been used in so many slashers, especially like the
• 22:40
  screen franchise and the Child's Play franchise.
• 22:44
  Yeah, yeah, but it's like, but he didn't just use a gun.
• 22:49
  He used a gun like a slasher would use a gun.
• 22:51
  Yes. Yeah.
• 22:52
  It wasn't just a simple headshot.
• 22:54
  And that's it. I mean, he first used it just to
• 22:56
  maim her and to incapacitate her and then he comes back and just
• 23:01
  unloads on her and disfigures her.
• 23:03
  Yeah, I think the way that that scene really like what makes it
• 23:07
  so great is like, you don't expect that usually whenever the
• 23:10
  gun comes out in the splash of movies, especially Scream is
• 23:12
  whenever they're all in masks at the end and like.
• 23:15
  I don't know. Stakes are kind of different, I
• 23:16
  guess, but this one right here, like, you just don't expect it.
• 23:19
  And then it's just so crazy. Oh yeah, I love that moment.
• 23:24
  Yeah, it's not just a big turn for art, but it's a big turn for
• 23:27
  them. Maybe as a whole.
• 23:28
  Because up until this point, we've been following Tara and
• 23:31
  have assumed that she's the final girl.
• 23:33
  Oh yeah, we pulled a psycho on everybody there.
• 23:35
  I. Love that too.
• 23:36
  That's so great. Yeah, yeah.
• 23:38
  That was definitely a nod to Psycho right there.
• 23:40
  Because it's like, yeah, that make everybody think this is the
• 23:42
  final girl and then boom, Nope. We knew that was definitely
• 23:48
  gonna cause a reaction with people, both that killing her
• 23:51
  off and just the fact that he pulls out a gun out of nowhere
• 23:54
  and it's like that's no one was expecting that.
• 23:57
  Yeah, and I know a lot of people got kind of upset about that,
• 24:00
  just feeling like it. There was no set mo for him, but
• 24:04
  I think there's been plenty of iconic.
• 24:07
  Like movie killers that don't necessarily have, and we've had
• 24:11
  this whole discussion when we covered the Friday the 13th
• 24:14
  franchise. Everybody wants to attribute
• 24:16
  Jason to his machete, but Jason uses whatever's there and is
• 24:20
  convenient. The machete like not even a
• 24:23
  consistent weapon for him. It just somehow became iconic
• 24:28
  and I think that's kind of. What makes art scary is that
• 24:33
  it's weapons of convenience. But also, there's the
• 24:36
  theatricality of it, too. Yeah, see, that's the thing.
• 24:40
  It's like people don't think he has an MO.
• 24:42
  I mean, the homeless cat lady in the film actually sums up his MO
• 24:49
  perfectly, I thought. Or she's like, he just does this
• 24:51
  because he thinks it's funny. Yeah, my God.
• 24:56
  Got unduly upset at him stealing Emily.
• 24:59
  When we rewatched it last night, like, I was like, it's a doll.
• 25:02
  But I feel so bad for her because she's like, yeah, I
• 25:05
  mean, truly, you know, stick in some way, shape or form and
• 25:10
  she's just completely torn up. And just seeing him fuck with
• 25:14
  her like that before scalping her, well, that's the thing.
• 25:18
  He knows what, you know, motivates other people, what
• 25:21
  drives people. And he he uses that to lure his
• 25:24
  victims in. And that's what I thought was
• 25:26
  brilliant about that scene. It's just like he he knew that
• 25:30
  she had that motherly side to her and he used that to his
• 25:34
  advantage to like, bring her in for an easy kill.
• 25:38
  It's fucked up. It's very, it's very fucked up.
• 25:42
  It's just like, yeah, it's just like that's.
• 25:58
  Yeah. I love that scene.
• 25:46
  I love that there's so much you could read into that scene and
• 25:49
  so there could be so many red herrings even with that scene,
• 25:52
  because people are like, my gosh was he abused and blah, blah,
• 25:55
  blah, all that. It's like, Nah, he was just
• 25:57
  fucking with. I almost picture art as like, a
• 25:59
  pod person. Like he just popped into
• 26:01
  existence. Yeah, right.
• 26:03
  Yeah, which I think is in itself scary enough.
• 26:06
  Just like he's not doing this out of revenge or anything like
• 26:11
  that. He's just doing that because he
• 26:13
  enjoys it and that's to me scarier than anything else.
• 26:23
  And bringing misery to people. It's like he doesn't.
• 26:19
  That's what he's motivated for is he just has a lust for
• 26:22
  killing and. He's the anti clown because
• 26:27
  clowns are supposed to bring happiness and joy to other
• 26:30
  people and he does the opposite for his own amusement and not
• 26:35
  the amusement of others. Yeah, it's very much like
• 26:38
  Halloween, like the original Michael Myers where they don't
• 26:41
  give him that motivation with. Yeah, like the sister thing.
• 26:43
  It's just like he just stalks and kills because that's just
• 26:46
  what he does. Yeah, that's what makes it so
• 26:48
  creepy. It's very, very effective.
• 26:49
  I love it. So there was one thing I wanted
• 26:51
  to ask you about. I saw recently that you guys,
• 26:55
  you and Damian had, like, discrepancy online with the
• 27:00
  budget of the movie. Like it looked like it had been
• 27:02
  inflated by other people. Oh yeah, yeah, that was
• 27:06
  ridiculous. What was the number that people
• 27:08
  I thought was like, it looked like it was over $100,000,
• 27:11
  right. That they said that you guys had
• 27:12
  for this thing? Yeah.
• 27:14
  Yeah. Which is totally not true at
• 27:15
  all. I'm like, I I don't know the
• 27:17
  exact figure, but I know we made it for less than $50,000.
• 27:21
  The IMDb, which we always know, that's kind of bullshit.
• 27:23
  It kind of speculates 35,000, which that sounds about right, I
• 27:27
  guess. I don't know.
• 27:28
  Like yeah, that's that's yeah, that's what I think one of our
• 27:32
  people on the production side actually put on IMDb to clarify
• 27:36
  that because of that cuz I think over inflating our budget does a
• 27:41
  disservice to the the work that the whole entire team put into
• 27:44
  this. I'm showing that we can make a
• 27:46
  movie like this off of a very, very small budget is is it's, I
• 27:52
  mean this I mean we made it for less than what they made the
• 27:55
  original Texas Chainsaw Massacre back in the early 70s.
• 28:00
  That's counting inflation. You know, this is like, yeah,
• 28:04
  that's not even counting inflation because they made
• 28:06
  that. We've made it still for less
• 28:07
  than what they made back then. And a lot of those movies back
• 28:10
  then were like, way more simple, too.
• 28:12
  This one had so many effects and you see so much stuff on screen
• 28:15
  it's impressive. Well, and that was actually, you
• 28:18
  know, we talked about this before before we got you hopped
• 28:24
  on here, David. We were talking about the
• 28:27
  special effects and people classing this maybe as.
• 28:32
  Part of the torture porn subgenre, which we kind of
• 28:37
  disagree with. Absolutely disagree with I don't
• 28:39
  think it's torture porn at all. And that was one of the movies
• 28:42
  that came to mind for me was Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
• 28:45
  Is that people misremember how much is actually on screen in
• 28:50
  terms of the kills. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:53
  You don't really see blood in Texas Chainsaw Massacre that
• 28:56
  much. Yeah, but everybody's just
• 28:58
  convinced themselves they've seen, like, the nastiest
• 29:01
  gorgeous movie out. Because everything else about
• 29:04
  that movie is Nest. Yeah.
• 29:06
  Well, that's kind of how I feel about this, though.
• 29:08
  Is that like when we were rewatching it last night?
• 29:10
  I was like. I remember some of these kills
• 29:13
  as being much more explicit than they were.
• 29:15
  Now. Granted, we do see the bodies
• 29:17
  after the fact and they are very nasty and gory and the effects
• 29:20
  are amazing. Yeah, I mean, there are some
• 29:23
  very gory moments and it's like the stabbing of the pizza guy
• 29:26
  and obviously the most famous scene of the whole movie.
• 29:29
  Like, it definitely goes there and it shows it on screen.
• 29:32
  But yeah, some of it's a little bit restricted.
• 29:35
  Yeah, it's it's like, you know, I wouldn't necessarily call our
• 29:38
  films torture porn per se. They do have torture elements to
• 29:41
  them, but we're not trying to be torture porn.
• 29:44
  There is a difference there. I look at other films maybe like
• 29:50
  hostile and stuff like that being more like torture porn.
• 29:53
  Yeah, But yeah, I mean, I will say there is a kill in Part 2
• 30:00
  that people will definitely be saying, oh God, that is torture
• 30:02
  born. That is horrible.
• 30:06
  Oh my gosh. But it's like, but the whole
• 30:08
  film isn't that way. It's just one kill that's like
• 30:10
  that. And it's just like, yeah, that's
• 30:12
  not the whole focus. There's other elements to this
• 30:14
  as well. We're I kind of like, look at
• 30:17
  this. It's like we're a blend of
• 30:19
  different slasher genres. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:21
  I can see that. Definitely.
• 30:23
  Like, I mean like that scene where he has her tied down in
• 30:27
  the basement and then like he has the other girl upside down,
• 30:30
  you know, everything happens. I mean, he doesn't necessarily
• 30:34
  torture Dawn, but, you know, I don't really know what the
• 30:36
  intention. OK, we don't know how long she
• 30:38
  was hanging upside down. That's a good point.
• 30:40
  Yeah. Probably not too long since she
• 30:43
  still was conscious. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:45
  Human being can't hang upside down for too long before they
• 30:48
  lose consciousness. So.
• 30:50
  Speaking of that, I've noticed a lot of people have been into
• 30:53
  doing like recreating that at conventions with you.
• 30:56
  How do you feel about having people do that?
• 30:58
  That's pretty cool. I love it.
• 31:00
  I love it when people, when we're doing the photo OPS, they
• 31:02
  come in with their own ideas and have different things in mind
• 31:05
  that they wanna do. Cuz I mean I myself, I try to
• 31:08
  keep things fresh and I like to do different ideas with people,
• 31:13
  but I love it when other people have ideas too, cuz I don't want
• 31:16
  to be that guy that just takes the same photo with every single
• 31:19
  person. Just like just pointing the
• 31:20
  finger at the other guy. Hey, it's that guy.
• 31:22
  Type of photo that just seems so impersonal and just boring to
• 31:28
  me. That's fun.
• 31:31
  We went to our first convention in October and those were
• 31:37
  definitely fun moments where we actually Felisa Rose when we saw
• 31:41
  her, we were. Yeah, We were in Casey Becker in
• 31:45
  Ghostface Cosplay, and she was like, you're gonna get a
• 31:47
  picture. And I was like, yeah, but can
• 31:49
  you be stabbing me? And she was like, of course.
• 31:51
  So we kind of blended our movies together.
• 31:54
  That's great. That's Felisa too, for you.
• 31:56
  She I God, I just adore her. Yeah, she's she's in.
• 32:01
  Terrified too. Too, right?
• 32:03
  Yes. Yes.
• 32:04
  Yeah. She has a small little role in
• 32:06
  there, so it's fun. It's a fun role for her.
• 32:09
  She's hilarious. Yeah, we were talking about
• 32:11
  that. That must have been cuz
• 32:13
  everything we've seen of you online, all of our interactions
• 32:16
  with you on Instagram and then obviously talking to you now for
• 32:20
  the past half hour between you and Felissa Rose.
• 32:23
  It must just have been such a wholesome set.
• 32:25
  Yeah, you know it. It was just like visiting Mr.
• 32:29
  Rogers neighborhood. Yeah, it's like we we had fun on
• 32:34
  set. That's is we had to because like
• 32:37
  a lot of the the environments we're shooting in in the middle
• 32:41
  of winter, I will say we're not the most fun places to film in
• 32:45
  miserable conditions. It's like that's how we had to
• 32:48
  keep our sanity because we're on set for like 12 plus hours a day
• 32:52
  in this miserable environment. So we we we had to keep the
• 32:57
  laughter going just to keep our sanity.
• 32:59
  And it wasn't just me. It was like other crew members,
• 33:01
  especially Jason Levy. He's one of the Fuzzle and Linz
• 33:04
  guys. He was one of the cops in the
• 33:05
  first one. He's the bald headed cop and
• 33:07
  it's like yeah, at one point it was one night where I think it's
• 33:11
  like day three or four after consecutive days of us just
• 33:14
  being there forever and it was cold and miserable.
• 33:18
  We're all the morale was down. He just comes out of the
• 33:21
  dressing room dressed in Lauren Laverra's Sienna Valkyrie
• 33:26
  costume and it was just like oh God no, Oh my God, no.
• 33:34
  But it was so funny because it's like especially when you know
• 33:37
  Jason it was just like the funniest thing to see him do
• 33:39
  that And it was like and he did that just to get morale up on
• 33:43
  set is like we're all doing that kind of stuff.
• 33:46
  It's like I'm always trying to crack jokes and stuff like that
• 33:48
  myself, just to keep things light.
• 33:51
  Because I know, especially for my costars, they're doing some
• 33:54
  heavy work there with very emotional, complex scenes and
• 33:59
  which can be draining. And if you're doing that for
• 34:02
  days and days and days and days over and over again, it's gonna
• 34:07
  affect you in a negative manner. And so I try to do something
• 34:11
  just to break them out of that funk.
• 34:14
  How do you handle the emotional switch between?
• 34:19
  Filming and then breaks between filming cuz we've seen behind
• 34:23
  the scenes stuff and you like you said, you are joking around
• 34:27
  and having fun with everybody. How do you handle that mentality
• 34:32
  of switching back and forth? That's easy for me.
• 34:35
  That's how I've always been as an actor.
• 34:36
  It's just like I I've always been able to switch it on,
• 34:39
  switch it off and you know, I might take a few seconds there
• 34:42
  just to get my head in the game again, but that's about it.
• 34:44
  It's like I can easily go in and out of character.
• 34:47
  I don't have to do any of that. You know, method acting is a lot
• 34:50
  of people, not a lot of people. But you know, some actors do or
• 34:53
  they have to live as the character for a while and they
• 34:55
  distance themselves from everybody and all that.
• 34:57
  I'm like, Nah, Nah, I don't. I can just turn him, turn him on
• 35:01
  and off. It will.
• 35:02
  And so it it doesn't affect me mentally because you know, it's
• 35:05
  it's acting. I I I feel like I'm just doing
• 35:08
  as I did as a kid when I was playing pretend and I was just
• 35:11
  like yeah, I'm just pertaining to be this vicious serial killer
• 35:14
  right now. So hey hey step step, step, step
• 35:17
  Okay back to myself. I can only imagine how scary
• 35:22
  that would be though, if you had to live in that head space for a
• 35:25
  little bit to get into character.
• 35:26
  I think everybody on set would hate me.
• 35:30
  They would all hate me. They would just that would have
• 35:34
  been so miserable for everybody. I mean, granted, I like to
• 35:38
  sometimes creep around and scare people though, because Lauren
• 35:42
  especially is actually afraid of clowns in some ways.
• 35:46
  And so, yeah, and I was playing a dangerous game because, I mean
• 35:49
  she, she has different, you know, she's trained very, very
• 35:53
  different, many different forms of martial arts.
• 35:55
  So. So I was, I was, I was risking
• 35:59
  my life, I think at times. And I would just like just sneak
• 36:01
  up behind her while she's just conversing with someone and just
• 36:04
  stand there and make a face at her.
• 36:06
  And so, like, when she turned around, I'm like, right in her
• 36:08
  face. And she would just but gotcha.
• 36:13
  I'm surprised she never just took me out with a kick.
• 36:17
  I'm glad she didn't. I can only imagine, like,
• 36:22
  especially at cons because we went like, like we said, we went
• 36:25
  to our first one, but we saw a lot of people dressed as art.
• 36:28
  Like if you, like, walked around the con fully in your makeup and
• 36:33
  costume and you're just like actually putting on a show for.
• 36:35
  Have you ever done anything like that?
• 36:37
  Like I feel like that would be more fun.
• 36:39
  I I love to do that any anytime I I do my photo OPS at the
• 36:42
  conventions. I stay in character.
• 36:44
  I I don't talk or anything like that.
• 36:46
  I I want to give people the art experience so even when I'm
• 36:48
  walking around the floor I I interact with people and mess
• 36:52
  around and I love it. It's fun for me.
• 36:53
  I like this. This past weekend, some guy made
• 36:57
  some, you know, joke about me being, you know, a clown or
• 37:00
  something about my horn or something like that.
• 37:02
  And I just turned around and stared him down and started
• 37:05
  making fun of him right there in front of everybody.
• 37:07
  And everybody was just eating it off.
• 37:09
  It was it was great. I that's amazing, but also is
• 37:13
  kind of creeping me out picturing it.
• 37:16
  I'm one of those though that like I'm terrible about staying
• 37:20
  in character whenever I'm dressed up.
• 37:22
  And I mean, obviously I'm not an actor, so it's probably good,
• 37:28
  but like, you know, going to things like conventions or like
• 37:31
  Kings Island does their fright nights, I.
• 37:35
  I get really thrown off really easily by people never breaking
• 37:39
  character, and I hate it. So yeah, I can understand that.
• 37:46
  But it's like, I think my version of not breaking
• 37:49
  character is a little bit more entertaining than just like a
• 37:51
  guy dressed as Mike Myers just standing there and staring at
• 37:54
  you the whole entire time. Yeah, that could be very
• 37:56
  unnerving. I saw a guy down at Spooky
• 37:59
  Empire and he was dressing Mike and the whole entire time he was
• 38:02
  on the floor he was fully in character.
• 38:04
  I I remember just one part because they had a it was two
• 38:07
  floors that they had and so they had this like a balcony area
• 38:12
  going over the on the 2nd floor. And I look up and I just see him
• 38:16
  just standing there staring down at the floor at everybody and he
• 38:20
  was there forever just doing that.
• 38:23
  And I was like, God, that is the most unnerving thing.
• 38:26
  I was like, that is just dude, I'm.
• 38:31
  Trying to imagine what's going through his head, he's like,
• 38:33
  this is so fucking awesome. Yeah, if you like to like people
• 38:37
  watch. I could see how that would be
• 38:39
  easy enough to just stay there for, yeah?
• 38:41
  Nobody questions you staring at them.
• 38:43
  They're like, it's just Michael, Let's find out.
• 38:45
  Exactly, exactly. It was fun.
• 38:48
  It's like I even came across him when I was dressed as art and I
• 38:50
  just started trying to steer him down and started clowning around
• 38:54
  him and stuff like that. It was I love that kind of
• 38:56
  stuff. What I love also is just seeing
• 38:58
  how different people react. And it's like I've know it's
• 39:02
  really funny is like the people you would think would be totally
• 39:05
  fine with art are the ones that are usually more scared of art
• 39:07
  and like other. And the the inverse is true.
• 39:10
  Like little girls, little girls love art.
• 39:14
  They I they come up to me and just hug me and I'm like, you
• 39:18
  should be terrified of me but then I'll see little boys.
• 39:20
  They see me and they go run and hide behind their parents.
• 39:24
  And then I I've had, you know, like when I was at Astronomicon
• 39:30
  a few years ago, my, my security guy, big huge mountain of a man.
• 39:36
  He and I had been chatting before I was in costume and
• 39:39
  everything. And he was, we're having fun and
• 39:41
  I'm in costume and he's trying to escort me down to the floor.
• 39:44
  We're in the elevator together and he's just backed up into the
• 39:47
  corner almost in tears. And I was like, well, I can't
• 39:53
  let this just go. So I just go over and just get
• 39:56
  like, I just inch closer and closer to his face.
• 39:59
  And he's just over there. Like please stop, please stop,
• 40:02
  please stop. And I just slowly bring up my
• 40:04
  horn into his face and just, and he's just cringing and cringing
• 40:09
  and just waiting for me to honk the horn.
• 40:12
  And then I don't. He's like God.
• 40:15
  And then if someone he doesn't, then I do honk it and he's like
• 40:19
  God. He just and that's right when
• 40:21
  the like the elevator doors open up.
• 40:23
  So everybody sees him in there going in the corner.
• 40:28
  It was so funny. It was so funny.
• 40:30
  I'm like, dude, you could pick me up and throw me across this
• 40:33
  whole entire convention, I think so.
• 40:34
  I'm like, you're fine. That horn, though, is.
• 40:40
  Creepy it is, yeah, that's really.
• 40:42
  And I think that was probably one of my favorite sequences in
• 40:46
  in Terrifier is where Art is chasing Vicki and then just
• 40:52
  aggressively honks the horn at her in her face and then hits
• 40:58
  her with the truck and starts playing very aggressive jazz
• 41:01
  music. Something about that sequence of
• 41:04
  sounds is very unnerving. And I was just like, this is it,
• 41:07
  this is the Timex of the movie. I loved it.
• 41:10
  I loved it. It's like he's such an asshole.
• 41:14
  He's such an asshole. I just love that whole bit with
• 41:17
  him. Just like she gets away with him
• 41:19
  and he just shoves the horn through the door and just starts
• 41:21
  talking right in her face, just like cuz he knows he's got her.
• 41:26
  He's just toying with his food. It's just I love it.
• 41:30
  Such an asshole. I.
• 41:31
  Completely forgot that he, like, even starts eating her at that
• 41:34
  scene. Yeah, There's even, like,
• 41:36
  elements of cannibalism in this movie.
• 41:38
  Oh yeah, Yeah, he loves his head cheese.
• 41:41
  I guess you could say so. One of my favorite bits of the
• 41:44
  movie, though is whenever he like a you first go into the
• 41:47
  pizza place and you're just sitting across and you're just
• 41:50
  making all of those faces like that one face where you're just
• 41:52
  like cheese and at them the entire time I.
• 41:55
  Laughing every single time. I love that was fun.
• 41:59
  The bubble machine ring. Yes.
• 42:01
  Moment. Because that's something like
• 42:04
  you could actually see going down at 1:00 AM on Halloween
• 42:09
  night with the few drunk people in a like you could see like
• 42:12
  that weirdo. And the booth over there like
• 42:14
  goes and gets this like plastic ring and proposes to the girl
• 42:18
  who just has no interest in being stared down the way she's
• 42:22
  being stared down. Which is like just a terrifying
• 42:25
  moment of like very, very real to life.
• 42:31
  It is very real to life. I mean, I live here in New York
• 42:33
  City. I see people do that kind of
• 42:35
  stuff all the time on the subway.
• 42:37
  And it just like where I watched guys just stare at a woman and
• 42:44
  it's just, it's the most creepy, unsettling thing.
• 42:47
  It's just like, dude, please stop.
• 42:49
  That is just like that's I I think that's what I love about
• 42:53
  that scene. It's like it's very entertaining
• 42:55
  to watch, but it's also very real in a lot of ways.
• 42:57
  That's a real, real fear that a lot of women especially have,
• 43:01
  yeah. You know, that's I I really
• 43:04
  appreciated the, the diner owner Steve, where he like, you know,
• 43:09
  tells him he's got to leave and then he checks on them, gives
• 43:12
  them their food for free, like that's, you know, good guy
• 43:15
  moment. Yeah.
• 43:17
  So then he dies. Well, yeah, I mean, no good deed
• 43:20
  at all. Yeah, he was a good guy.
• 43:23
  He was a good guy. He was doing this.
• 43:25
  He was doing what any gentleman should do.
• 43:27
  It's just like, yeah, good for him.
• 43:30
  It's a real fuck you, though, to have to clean up all that shit
• 43:33
  in the. Bathroom God, that's such an
• 43:36
  interesting decision. That's a real thing, too.
• 43:40
  I know it is. That comes from a place.
• 43:43
  I've waited tables for 13 years and I remember one time they
• 43:47
  told me to go clean a bathroom and there was and it was the
• 43:52
  person that was in there before was like a middle-aged woman.
• 43:56
  And I go in there and there's poop on the ceiling.
• 44:00
  My God, exactly. That was my ration.
• 44:03
  How? How did that get?
• 44:05
  How? How have you guys?
• 44:08
  Have you ever seen like the diagram of people showing how
• 44:10
  this is done? Where people are just like
• 44:12
  sitting on the toilet and their ass is just like up towards the
• 44:15
  ceiling? It's just, but how is and it's
• 44:20
  like when you especially when you saw the woman, you're like
• 44:24
  this this this person did that. Pat what?
• 44:27
  Because you this, it's not the person you would ever assume
• 44:30
  would do anything like that. But obviously they did.
• 44:32
  And it's just like this is just disgusting.
• 44:35
  I'm like, I am not cleaning this up.
• 44:36
  I do not get paid enough for this.
• 44:38
  I have to got, I have to take place of food out the tables.
• 44:43
  This is unsanitary for me to do. And so I just refused.
• 44:47
  I'm like, no, no, I don't know. I had to clean vomit up at work
• 44:53
  one time. I can't do that.
• 44:55
  I can't either. I started throwing up and my
• 44:57
  coworker that was helping me was like, you need to leave because
• 45:00
  I'm not cleaning up. Double the amount, just go.
• 45:02
  Yes, like, I'd rather do this alone than deal with both.
• 45:05
  I can handle blood. I can handle poop.
• 45:08
  But vomit. Oh my God, no.
• 45:10
  I just no. I hope if I ever get married and
• 45:15
  have kids, I hope my wife has a much stronger stomach when it
• 45:18
  comes to that, because I'm like, I will change the diapers no
• 45:21
  problem. That's no problem.
• 45:22
  But the puke? Nope.
• 45:23
  Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope. You're gonna be cleaning up a
• 45:26
  lot more puke. The amount of times Travis has
• 45:28
  had to say that to me, because we'll do the same.
• 45:30
  We've got 2 cats and a dog, so we've had to clean up messes and
• 45:35
  the vomit I always struggle with.
• 45:37
  And he's like, what are you gonna do if you have kids?
• 45:38
  What what is gonna happen? And I was like, you're gonna,
• 45:40
  we'll see. It's just they vomit all higher
• 45:43
  cleaning service. Although.
• 45:46
  In our history with our nieces and nephews, the children tend
• 45:49
  to vomit all over. I know.
• 45:50
  It's like I'm a bullseye. Yeah.
• 45:53
  God, that's. I was a camp counselor and a
• 45:57
  teacher for a while. So I'm like, I've seen that too.
• 46:00
  And I'm just like, God, no thank you, no thank you.
• 46:06
  I just, I hate it when people show that kind of stuff in
• 46:09
  movies and TV shows, too. I'm just like, why?
• 46:12
  Especially when I'm eating, I'm like, why did you do that?
• 46:16
  Why? I can't even hear the sound
• 46:19
  this. Oh no, It makes me start
• 46:21
  gagging. And we've had, you know, we'll
• 46:23
  meet people and that somehow comes up in conversation, you
• 46:26
  know, as it does. And they don't believe it.
• 46:29
  And then they start to make the sound and then I have to leave
• 46:32
  to throw up. And they're like, wow, She was
• 46:33
  serious. I'm like, yeah, that that even
• 46:35
  happened to me on set for Part 2 at one scene.
• 46:38
  And it wasn't the character was going to throw up or stuff like
• 46:41
  that. But they were making those
• 46:42
  sounds and I was getting nauseous this, and I was like
• 46:46
  Dave staying character, staying character.
• 46:49
  I was like, but on the inside I'm just going.
• 46:52
  I feel like I'm getting a little queasy.
• 46:54
  All of a sudden it was just the sounds they were making and I
• 46:56
  was like and I had to compliment the actor afterwards.
• 46:59
  That was a good performance. Here you actually got me.
• 47:03
  You got me, so I wanted to. I asked about the makeup process
• 47:12
  cuz we've seen the time lapse videos a few times, but
• 47:16
  obviously they're time lapse. How long tongue lapse?
• 47:21
  Yeah, that would be different. Well, you gotta make the
• 47:25
  prosthetic stick somehow. Yeah, yeah, I just bring a dog
• 47:28
  in. It's like here.
• 47:34
  Obviously it's a time lapse, so it's not a minute and 40 seconds
• 47:40
  to do the whole process. How long does it typically take
• 47:45
  when we're doing part one? It took a lot longer than now,
• 47:50
  but it took about 3 to 4 hours because originally Damian was
• 47:54
  painting all the white on the makeup on the mask later on and
• 47:59
  that you had to wait for it to dry.
• 48:00
  Then you could put more stuff on.
• 48:02
  So that took a lot more time than what it takes now.
• 48:05
  Now we've got down to about an hour or a little bit more,
• 48:09
  depending on like, you know, how much battle damage I have on
• 48:13
  like how much blood has to be added for continuity purposes
• 48:16
  and stuff like that. But it's we're also trying.
• 48:19
  We tried it like one or two days near the end of filming Part 2
• 48:22
  where we've been trying a new mask with a foam latex instead
• 48:26
  of the silicon gelatin mask that we were using.
• 48:30
  And it holds up so much better cuz the gelatin would break down
• 48:34
  around my mouth all the time, cuz it's any liquid gets on the
• 48:40
  gels and it starts to dissolve it.
• 48:42
  And the teeth I was wearing would always make me drool.
• 48:45
  And so it would just break down very easily, especially with the
• 48:48
  faces I'm making. And I have a very expressive
• 48:50
  mouth. And so that would stretch out
• 48:52
  the makeup and destroy it. So that was always a pain,
• 48:55
  trying to keep my makeup intact. So we usually would have to film
• 48:58
  all my closeups first so we can you film those before it all
• 49:02
  gets destroyed. And then, you know, sometimes
• 49:06
  send me back to triage. I would call it, you know, to
• 49:09
  Damon have to cut up pieces of bulb cap and glue it to my face
• 49:13
  and paint over it and stuff like that or just add more blood to
• 49:17
  it. That was always the thing.
• 49:17
  Just put more blood on them just to cover it up and but with the
• 49:23
  new foam latex we haven't had those problems and it's so much
• 49:28
  easier and it comes off better too.
• 49:31
  Do you do the full makeup process for conventions or do
• 49:34
  you have, like an abbreviated version?
• 49:36
  Wow, we need the full process. Yeah, that's anytime someone
• 49:39
  wants me to be in full costume and makeup at a convention for
• 49:41
  photo op. It's a deal that Damien and I
• 49:45
  have with each other. He's the one to do it.
• 49:48
  So if they want me to do that, they gotta bring Damien out,
• 49:52
  okay And so cuz we don't want if people are gonna be paying for a
• 49:55
  photo op with art, we don't want it to be some half assed version
• 49:59
  of it. We want them to get the full
• 50:01
  deal. That's awesome.
• 50:02
  Yeah. Is it the paint that you use?
• 50:05
  I'm just gonna ask cuz I play around with body paint and
• 50:09
  special effects stuff. Is it grease paint?
• 50:13
  No or. Is it the alcohol paste?
• 50:16
  I don't know exactly what it is, but it's not grease paint.
• 50:19
  Okay. Yeah, yeah, I know.
• 50:21
  Like for like the black, he uses a Mac pin for a lot of the black
• 50:25
  on my face. Yeah, which works really well.
• 50:29
  I love it. It just it it holds up so well.
• 50:33
  Yeah, I didn't do enough research when I bought my first
• 50:36
  kit to play around with, and it's OK.
• 50:39
  It's so. Damien's still so messy.
• 50:41
  It's so messy and unpleasant to clean up.
• 50:44
  But I'm also like, I'm gonna use this, all of this before I buy
• 50:48
  more. Yeah, yeah, you learn as you go.
• 50:52
  That's the thing. It's like, it's that's you learn
• 50:55
  from those mistakes. And I mean, like I said,
• 50:57
  Damien's still learning new things with the makeup.
• 51:00
  So what are some of your personal favorite scary movies?
• 51:04
  I know you've mentioned a lot of the inspiration that you brought
• 51:07
  into art and I know you said that you watched a lot of silent
• 51:11
  comedians films but what is some of your personal favorites like
• 51:17
  just chilling as David watching horror movies.
• 51:21
  Yeah I I love like the original original Texas Chainsaw Massacre
• 51:24
  and Halloween movies of course. Of course Nightmare on Street
• 51:31
  Part 3 Dream Warriors is just fantastic.
• 51:34
  Love that one. Exorcist Omen the first Scream
• 51:38
  movie. Oh my God.
• 51:39
  I I recently when I was traveling out to Vegas I just
• 51:41
  watched it on the plane again and I'm just like God this is
• 51:44
  this still holds up so well today.
• 51:46
  It's such a good movie. It's just it's the it's the
• 51:50
  ensemble that's in it. It's just So what an amazing
• 51:53
  cast that movie had. It's just the nuances that
• 51:56
  especially that the like skeet in Matthew or would bring to the
• 52:00
  roles and it was like you'd see them, you you pick up on things
• 52:04
  like if you know where to look you you'd see them like you
• 52:06
  know, giving each other side eyes and stuff like that.
• 52:09
  It's like oh God, how did I not see all of this in the first
• 52:12
  time? It's like it's so it's so.
• 52:15
  It's such a smart film in so many ways.
• 52:18
  Have you seen the new one? Yeah, yeah.
• 52:21
  Well, not a fan. It was OK.
• 52:25
  It was just like, I don't know, it's just, it was missing
• 52:29
  something. I felt like the legacy
• 52:31
  characters were totally just underutilized.
• 52:34
  There was no real rhyme or reason to them being there,
• 52:36
  especially Sydney and GAIL. I'm like, what?
• 52:38
  Why are they here? They serve no real purpose to
• 52:40
  the plot. It's just like they added them
• 52:43
  then, just to bring people into the theater.
• 52:46
  I would have loved for Neve Campbell's entire appearance to
• 52:49
  be her getting the phone call about a new ghost face and then
• 52:53
  her going no, I've got a husband and kids, I'm not getting
• 52:57
  involved and then boom, that's it.
• 52:58
  I was really hoping that was the turn they were gonna take with
• 53:01
  her. Yeah.
• 53:02
  Yeah, that would have made much more sense.
• 53:04
  It's just like, yeah, it's just like this.
• 53:07
  I don't know. There's so many things.
• 53:09
  It just, I don't know, I hate to talk bad about it.
• 53:13
  So because there was a lot of good stuff in it as well, but
• 53:16
  it's just like when you compare it to the original, it's just
• 53:21
  night and day. My main problem, my main beef
• 53:24
  was like the motivation of The Killers and stuff like that.
• 53:28
  It was just like. Yeah, man.
• 53:30
  Yeah, that's lame. It was lame and weak and I was
• 53:33
  like even though I called them from the get go, I was like it's
• 53:36
  going to be this person and this person.
• 53:38
  It's like it was just obvious to me.
• 53:41
  I'm usually like that I it seems like I always called the killers
• 53:43
  in these type of movies. It's like, I don't know I guess
• 53:47
  that's how my mind works. But you know, there definitely,
• 53:51
  I mean it wasn't the worst movie I've seen by far.
• 53:55
  You know it had had some fun elements to it and stuff like
• 53:58
  that. So it's like, I hope they they,
• 54:01
  you know, learn from some of the mistakes and build upon it in
• 54:04
  part six. You know, I I want it to.
• 54:08
  I want them to be as good as the first one.
• 54:10
  You. Know.
• 54:11
  Yeah. Well, it's cool that you kind of
• 54:14
  have like a different perspective on it.
• 54:15
  That's kind of one of the things that we try and tackle on this
• 54:18
  podcast. We kind of want to like bring
• 54:20
  all of the perspectives. So like, you know what people
• 54:22
  love about it, what people hate about it, You know, it's just
• 54:25
  kind of like get all angles of people's interpretations on,
• 54:28
  Yeah, movies and stuff like that.
• 54:30
  Yeah, I do like that. I think that they had a very
• 54:34
  subtle terrifier reference in it, though, with the name of the
• 54:38
  sisters Tara and Tara and Samantha.
• 54:43
  The younger ones think Tara, just like the younger sister and
• 54:46
  terrifier was Tara and the older sister was Samantha, and the
• 54:50
  older sister and terrifier was Victoria, who was played by
• 54:53
  Samantha Scaffidi. So.
• 54:56
  That's interesting. Yeah, yeah.
• 54:57
  I don't know if that was a on purpose or is that was a happy
• 55:02
  accident, but like I like to think that was a terrifier
• 55:04
  reference in their cells. Like typically a tiny hat to
• 55:07
  that. Considering the people that made
• 55:09
  it, I could definitely see that being a legitimate thing.
• 55:12
  Yeah, who knows? Who knows?
• 55:14
  But it's like it is like if that was, I take that as a badge of
• 55:19
  honor to be recognized in a screen film.
• 55:21
  So plus they had the little snippet of ghost face using a
• 55:26
  flamethrower like we have art. Using a saw throw, Yes.
• 55:29
  Yeah. So I was like, I'll take that.
• 55:31
  I'll take that. I'll take that.
• 55:34
  It's like now I kind of want to see that version of stab eight
• 55:38
  though. I'm like, OK, what's going on
• 55:40
  that? I know, right?
• 55:41
  The metallic Ghost face mask is amazing.
• 55:44
  Yeah, yeah. I was like man, cuz I was such a
• 55:46
  tease and they were showing that image in the back before I was
• 55:49
  like, that was just an image from Stab and I was hoping that
• 55:52
  was a new look for Ghost face. Man.
• 55:56
  Man. Man.
• 55:58
  Yeah. So like we said, we kind of try
• 56:01
  and get different perspectives. On movies, this started off with
• 56:05
  us just arguing about movies that one of us likes and the
• 56:08
  other one doesn't get why they like it.
• 56:10
  And it's kind of turned into the whole thing where we get reviews
• 56:15
  from listeners or we'll pull reviews from Internet and kind
• 56:18
  of try and figure out what does and doesn't hit Yeah with with
• 56:22
  the with the movies and have some discussion about that.
• 56:26
  And we know that Terrifier has been a fairly divisive movie for
• 56:31
  people. Yeah, of course it has.
• 56:35
  Would you be interested in hearing some of the reviews
• 56:37
  we've got? Yeah, I mean, I've seen so many
• 56:40
  reviews myself and both positive and negative.
• 56:44
  Yeah, just to be clear, both of us will have terrifier.
• 56:47
  So generally whenever that happens, I try and pull some of
• 56:51
  the negative ones since we both like it so much.
• 56:53
  So yeah, but we also listen, man, anytime that there is a bad
• 56:58
  review, everybody always praises your performance though.
• 57:00
  So there's always a little. So I know that's The funny
• 57:05
  thing. It's like, yeah, it's like
• 57:06
  there's never, I've never personally gotten a bad review
• 57:09
  as far as I know. So I'm like, OK, that's cool.
• 57:13
  All right, well, I grabbed 2 online.
• 57:17
  I wanted to go for like some really weird, like, funny ones,
• 57:20
  like non critic reviews. So this one right here is on
• 57:25
  IMDb. It's titled Viewers who like
• 57:27
  this movie need Psychiatric Treatment.
• 57:32
  All right, it continues. Or else they will be the next
• 57:35
  Ted Bundy, Dennis Rader or Gary Ridgway.
• 57:38
  Just sick flick, No point other than a torture murder fest for
• 57:42
  the sadists. Let's download three star
• 57:44
  reviews and above. Oh my God.
• 57:48
  Oh man. It's crazy.
• 57:50
  I don't understand why people have that interpretation that if
• 57:53
  you like watching like gore and sick shit like this, you are
• 57:57
  automatically like a depraved person yourself.
• 58:00
  I know that's totally, actually untrue.
• 58:02
  They've done studies into that. That actually has no effect on
• 58:05
  people whatsoever. It's just like actually it seems
• 58:08
  like the people that are do watch the stuff are the most
• 58:12
  well adjusted people that you will meet in life.
• 58:16
  Yeah, I've actually talked about that before is that this horror
• 58:20
  in general is a way for me to kind of confront some like hyper
• 58:26
  vigilant tendencies that I have as a result of my past.
• 58:30
  Like it was just a way for me to understand how fear feels and
• 58:34
  how to respond to it. And how to like understand when
• 58:38
  it's like a real present danger versus when it's just?
• 58:42
  That emotion, like it's been very therapeutic for me in a
• 58:45
  way, which I think is something that people don't always
• 58:49
  understand. That perspective of.
• 58:50
  Yeah. And what's so funny too, is a
• 58:53
  lot of these people that don't like horror movies, you look
• 58:57
  like these. You know, I hate saying it, but
• 59:00
  these religious extremists out there, they're actually the ones
• 59:03
  doing real horror in real life to people.
• 59:06
  You know, the ways they have subjected people to their
• 59:12
  fanaticism in the way they've used that to denigrate sex of
• 59:19
  society in very horrible ways. I'm like I had a My uncle, when
• 59:27
  I was two years old, was murdered by the KKK in New
• 59:32
  Orleans for being gay. Wow.
• 59:35
  Wow. That's awful.
• 59:36
  Yeah. And that's the thing.
• 59:38
  And that's with horror films. They turn the mirror on society.
• 59:45
  They show us some of our the worst things that society can do
• 59:49
  to people. And it's it's a way to, you
• 59:52
  know, learn from the what not to do.
• 59:55
  And like, we're not really trying to glorify the violence.
• 1:00:00
  We're trying to show you what evil is and not to be that way.
• 1:00:04
  It's like art. Yeah.
• 1:00:06
  Art is not someone to idolize by any means.
• 1:00:09
  It's like. Cuz I I know we have gotten like
• 1:00:12
  a lot of people's like, oh, this film's misogynistic.
• 1:00:15
  I know that's been some reviews and stuff like that.
• 1:00:17
  I'm like, he's the bad guy. Yeah, that's what makes him the
• 1:00:22
  bad guy. Yes, he is doing horrible things
• 1:00:24
  to people, but he's not done. I I don't view him as being
• 1:00:27
  misogynistic. I view him as just hating
• 1:00:29
  everybody. He is pure.
• 1:00:31
  He's evil Incarnate. Well, yeah.
• 1:00:34
  And I. So that's one of the biggest
• 1:00:36
  criticisms that I've heard and that I've.
• 1:00:41
  Kind of had to look at a little bit.
• 1:00:43
  Is the scene where Art scouts the cat lady and then wears her.
• 1:00:49
  Yes. Yes, that's a funny scene when
• 1:00:54
  I'll get to it, yeah. Yeah, and that's one of those
• 1:00:57
  that, like if you're not a person that's looking for ways
• 1:01:01
  to condemn non straight. People like you're just like, Oh
• 1:01:08
  well, art is, you know, trying to look like Tara and throw
• 1:01:11
  Vicky off like it doesn't even, because that's what exactly he
• 1:01:14
  was doing. Yeah, but some people interpret
• 1:01:17
  that as, oh, well, he's the sick guy and he's also crossdressing.
• 1:01:21
  So there's that correlation there, which I don't see as the
• 1:01:26
  intention in the scene. It's just one of those
• 1:01:28
  unfortunate things that we don't get a ton of varied
• 1:01:31
  representation in film. Exactly.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  So that's probably the biggest criticism that I've seen of this
• 1:01:41
  film that. Really.
• 1:01:42
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:44
  That's what I thought was, I wouldn't say funny.
• 1:01:47
  As I said earlier, I don't see it as a funny scene, but it's
• 1:01:50
  like, it's funny that you mentioned that, because that's
• 1:01:52
  something I've debated a lot with some people about in the
• 1:01:55
  past. Because first of all, that was
• 1:01:58
  our nod to Silence the Lambs. That's Buffalo.
• 1:02:02
  I call it the Buffalo Bill scene.
• 1:02:04
  And that's the whole reasoning behind it, that he's trying to
• 1:02:08
  lure Victoria in, making her think that he's her sister.
• 1:02:13
  That's why he's dressed up like that.
• 1:02:15
  And he's okay. Now I'm just gonna prance around
• 1:02:17
  and just fuck with her. They had none is like cuz I've
• 1:02:21
  had some people say, oh this is transphobic and you know, all
• 1:02:24
  that kind of stuff like no, no, no, that was never the intention
• 1:02:26
  of it. And the irony of them saying
• 1:02:28
  it's transphobic cuz they don't realize the actress that plays
• 1:02:31
  the cat lady, Puya, she is actually a trans actress and
• 1:02:37
  she's very outspoken about being that she's she's very open about
• 1:02:42
  it. You know, she's she's from Iran.
• 1:02:44
  So she has an amazing story to tell, like what she has endured
• 1:02:48
  her whole entire life. And so if anybody thought that
• 1:02:52
  scene was transphobic and had a problem with it, it would have
• 1:02:55
  been her and she would have let us know from the very get go
• 1:02:58
  that she was not fine with that, blah blah, blah, blah.
• 1:03:01
  I even asked her about it when I first came across someone, you
• 1:03:04
  know, saying that about the scene.
• 1:03:06
  And she's like, oh, that purse is full of shit.
• 1:03:09
  She's there's nothing transphobic about that at all.
• 1:03:12
  It's just like, no, he's he's that's what people forget.
• 1:03:15
  He is the bad guy. Yeah, he is evil.
• 1:03:19
  This is what evil people do. They're not.
• 1:03:21
  He's not. What do you want him to do?
• 1:03:23
  I like balloon animals and give out free candy to everybody.
• 1:03:27
  It's like, no, he's the bad guy that is.
• 1:03:30
  What makes him the bad guy? Yeah, I never read it as him
• 1:03:33
  cross dressing. I read it as him wearing
• 1:03:36
  somebody's skin exactly. And see that?
• 1:03:38
  To me, that's just sick enough. That's just, I mean, that's the
• 1:03:44
  leather face too. It's just like, it's that whole.
• 1:03:48
  It's like, that's horrible. It's a horrible thing to do.
• 1:03:53
  And we're not condoning it by any means.
• 1:03:55
  My God. Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  And obviously I'm glad to hear Puya's take on it, because
• 1:04:05
  there's only so much that we can speak to it, ourselves being.
• 1:04:10
  Gender. As for the misogyny, like I'm
• 1:04:15
  gonna speak as a woman, that's fucking real to life.
• 1:04:18
  Like, yeah, I experience it daily.
• 1:04:22
  Like, seeing it in a horror movie where it's being clearly
• 1:04:27
  condemned is not problematic to me.
• 1:04:30
  Like, exactly. Like, yeah, he's the bad guy.
• 1:04:35
  He is the bad guy. And like the the women he's
• 1:04:38
  going up against are bad ass women.
• 1:04:42
  Yeah, they're like both. I would say both films pass the
• 1:04:48
  Bechdel test as well. Yes, that's the thing.
• 1:04:53
  It's just like and people don't realize both Damian and I come
• 1:04:58
  from very feminist minded families.
• 1:05:01
  I mean, Damian is raised in a house full of women, so it's
• 1:05:05
  like, no, we're not that way at all.
• 1:05:07
  And that's why we portray art in such a way, showing how evil he
• 1:05:11
  truly is. But he's not.
• 1:05:12
  Just like I said earlier, he's not just against women, He's
• 1:05:15
  against everybody. He hates everybody equally.
• 1:05:17
  And he actually kills more men than women in terror fire.
• 1:05:21
  Well, and that's something that, like when you pay attention all
• 1:05:24
  there are actually a lot of male victims in movies.
• 1:05:28
  And you know, we've got the whole final girl trope because
• 1:05:32
  it ends up being. The final girl that survives
• 1:05:35
  exactly. And there's a reason for that.
• 1:05:37
  And it deals with like psychology in a lot of ways,
• 1:05:39
  where an audience empathizes with the female victim over the
• 1:05:44
  male victim. They cheer more for the female
• 1:05:47
  to win. That's who you want to see come
• 1:05:49
  out and kick ass. I agree with that.
• 1:05:52
  I mean, there's a reason people are still aligning up to see
• 1:05:55
  Laurie Strode. Yeah, 40 years later.
• 1:05:58
  Yes. That's why they in the new text,
• 1:06:01
  Chainsaw Massacre, they had Sally come back.
• 1:06:04
  It's. Like, have you watched that one?
• 1:06:06
  Yeah, yeah, I. Wanted so much more with Sally.
• 1:06:12
  Didn't we all? Didn't we all?
• 1:06:15
  But that was my point. It's that's the trope in, I mean
• 1:06:22
  got you think of all the franchises, basically it's
• 1:06:26
  usually, you know 90% of the time it's the female that is the
• 1:06:32
  final, the person that survives at the end that the final girl,
• 1:06:36
  the fine, you know is that's where that trip comes from is
• 1:06:38
  it. And it's I mean it's not just
• 1:06:42
  that you have other films like, you know Aliens, you know, Ellen
• 1:06:47
  Ripley. Oh my God, I'm like hell yes.
• 1:06:51
  It's like those are the characters that you know we love
• 1:06:55
  and that's that's why Damian really created the Siena
• 1:06:58
  character for Part 2. He's like this is a character he
• 1:07:01
  had created before he even created art.
• 1:07:05
  This is someone he's wanted to put in the film for a long time
• 1:07:08
  that he he just loves this characters badass, you know, no
• 1:07:12
  hold barred lead that's going to come in and go toe to toe with
• 1:07:17
  art. And it's and that's what I love
• 1:07:19
  about Her story in Part 2 is that you see that Hero's journey
• 1:07:23
  that Damien specifically researched the hero's journey
• 1:07:27
  and applied it to Terrifier too with her character I'm.
• 1:07:30
  Very excited to see that oh it's just like and Lauren Laverra who
• 1:07:35
  plays her is just oh she's so good.
• 1:07:38
  Oh she's so she just she she raised the bar on the film.
• 1:07:42
  Her just by her performance is just, it added so much more to
• 1:07:47
  no, the film itself and my performance.
• 1:07:49
  I just everybody's gonna just love her.
• 1:07:52
  I am like she's the new final girl that everybody's gonna go
• 1:07:56
  gravitate to. I truly feel that way.
• 1:07:59
  I am super excited to see this. Yeah, me too.
• 1:08:02
  That sounds amazing. Which kind?
• 1:08:03
  Of leads me to a question I wanted to ask about how you feel
• 1:08:07
  about everybody saying that art is going to become one of.
• 1:08:10
  Those were icons. I love it.
• 1:08:15
  I'm honored. It makes me very, very happy.
• 1:08:19
  I never imagined that would happen to me.
• 1:08:24
  But I'm very honored to take that mantle of people want to
• 1:08:29
  place that upon me because I think it's time that we start
• 1:08:32
  getting new heart icons again. It's like all we're getting
• 1:08:37
  right now are a bunch of reboots and remakes and everything of
• 1:08:41
  input. They're not near as good as the
• 1:08:43
  originals. It's just like they've run out
• 1:08:45
  of fresh ideas. And that's the thing.
• 1:08:46
  We need new villains, just like, you know, Freddy and Jason and
• 1:08:52
  Mike Myers and all those characters took over from the
• 1:08:55
  original Universal monsters back in the days.
• 1:08:58
  Like, we need new blood, but we can still make movies with the
• 1:09:01
  original guys. I mean, we still get Dracula
• 1:09:04
  movies and stuff like that today, but we need new blood.
• 1:09:07
  And I'm hoping it's like we're paving the way for other
• 1:09:11
  filmmakers to come out and start innovating again.
• 1:09:14
  Because it just feels like the industry itself, not just horror
• 1:09:19
  films but Hollywood in general, has just been stagnating this
• 1:09:22
  past decade. Yeah, it's like there's they're,
• 1:09:26
  they're not is like big Hollywood is not willing to take
• 1:09:31
  risks on new ideas. Independent Hollywood.
• 1:09:34
  And you know film industry itself is like you see a lot of
• 1:09:36
  it on Netflix now. But like what's being put in
• 1:09:38
  theaters is just sequel after sequel after sequel after sequel
• 1:09:41
  after sequel and reboot, reboot, reboot, Ruby reboot.
• 1:09:46
  And it's just what what Damien and I talked about this all the
• 1:09:50
  time because Damien is a huge film buff like I am.
• 1:09:53
  And we, we've really noticed that with comedy there has, you
• 1:09:59
  know, like we grew up with iconic comedies coming out all
• 1:10:02
  the time, especially in the 80s and early 90s, and we haven't
• 1:10:05
  had anything like that in the past decade.
• 1:10:08
  I I can't really think of a big comedy that came out in theaters
• 1:10:13
  in the past decade that has really resonated with people
• 1:10:17
  like God, everything from the 80s, you know, and 70s like Mel
• 1:10:22
  Brooks in itself. You know, just like, you know,
• 1:10:25
  you have, you know, you know Blazing Saddles and you know
• 1:10:28
  Young Frankenstein, Rob Hoodman and tights.
• 1:10:31
  All those moves. And you have the, of course all
• 1:10:33
  the John Candy and Steve Martin movies and Eddie Murphy movies
• 1:10:38
  that came out back that it's like we don't have anything like
• 1:10:41
  that now. And this is and And I I'm hoping
• 1:10:45
  that, you know, people are finally getting fed up with, you
• 1:10:48
  know, just recycled crap over and over again and start
• 1:10:53
  bringing new ideas to the front. That's why people like Taika
• 1:10:57
  Waititi make me so happy. Yes.
• 1:11:00
  Cuz I like what we do in the shadows.
• 1:11:04
  That's a great movie. Thank you.
• 1:11:06
  Love that movie. Love that series.
• 1:11:08
  Will kill to be on it. I'm like, if you're out there
• 1:11:10
  listening, please, please put me in coach.
• 1:11:14
  Also, take a YTT. If you are listening to our
• 1:11:17
  podcast, please, please, please tell us.
• 1:11:19
  Yes, I'm like I see. I think I want more of that.
• 1:11:24
  I want. Yeah, that's I love that
• 1:11:26
  innovation. They're finding new things to do
• 1:11:28
  now. And I'm like, thank you, thank
• 1:11:30
  you. There at least some people
• 1:11:32
  taking risks and taking those chances now.
• 1:11:36
  There is something I was reading and I cannot remember where I
• 1:11:39
  read it, but a big I guess. Dissonance that's happening is
• 1:11:46
  that all of the more innovative movies that are coming out don't
• 1:11:50
  have that like face for the franchise.
• 1:11:54
  Like they don't have the iconic killer.
• 1:11:57
  It's more of a concept or a situation.
• 1:12:01
  Groundbreaking movies, but you can't necessarily franchise
• 1:12:04
  them. And so that's very true.
• 1:12:08
  Yeah, so studios are not like the bigger studios are not
• 1:12:11
  necessarily wanting to take the huger risks on those things that
• 1:12:14
  they can't franchise. It's weird.
• 1:12:18
  Yeah, it's a shame too, because it's like, God, I'm like,
• 1:12:23
  there's been some really good potential franchises too.
• 1:12:27
  And they, and I blame the studio system for basically butchering
• 1:12:32
  them. It's just like the bye Bye Man
• 1:12:37
  because Jenna was in that as well and she she she left us to
• 1:12:41
  go film bye bye Man like 2 days later.
• 1:12:43
  So we had to film all her stuff. So she she told me the whole
• 1:12:48
  plot of bye Bye Man and what all was going on with the script
• 1:12:51
  before you know they filmed and everything And then when I saw
• 1:12:54
  what was on film I'm like whoa what happened to this and this
• 1:12:56
  and this and this and this and this and this idea and this idea
• 1:12:59
  and she's like Oh yeah that all got cut.
• 1:13:02
  They because the studio wanted to make it more of a PG-13 than
• 1:13:06
  a rated R movies. So they cut all the things that
• 1:13:08
  really explained things and fleshed out characters better
• 1:13:11
  because I'm like, I thought the character, the Bye Bye man, what
• 1:13:14
  a great, brilliant concept. It's like, it's like that's a
• 1:13:18
  horrifying villain and it's like that and Doug Jones playing the
• 1:13:22
  character, so my God, you couldn't cast a better person
• 1:13:24
  and it just fell apart. I'm like, God, this would have
• 1:13:28
  been an amazing franchise. Yeah, it is.
• 1:13:31
  If they just really dropped the ball there and it's because they
• 1:13:34
  butchered it. They were trying to make it more
• 1:13:35
  safe for an audience and because of that they took the whole soul
• 1:13:39
  out of the film. With you guys being fully into,
• 1:13:42
  you guys don't have to deal with any of that stuff, right?
• 1:13:44
  No, no, that's that's been the beauty of making Terrify too.
• 1:13:48
  Especially we didn't have a studio saying Nope, can't do
• 1:13:51
  that. That's too too risky.
• 1:13:53
  That's that's too over the top. You can't do that.
• 1:13:55
  Nope, Nope, Nope. We took that as a challenge upon
• 1:13:59
  ourselves to actually push the envelope more now.
• 1:14:02
  I think that's what's been going on too, is like horror film
• 1:14:06
  makers are not taking those risks that they used to take.
• 1:14:10
  And this is the genre where you can take those risks.
• 1:14:12
  See how far you can go with the concept.
• 1:14:15
  Yeah, I do wanna ask if you know anything about this.
• 1:14:19
  So we have terrifier on Blu-ray and we saw there were some
• 1:14:25
  deleted scenes. We were really excited and
• 1:14:27
  checked them out and they really just seemed like extended
• 1:14:30
  versions of just two separate scenes.
• 1:14:34
  Yeah, we didn't really have scenes that we really cut out of
• 1:14:36
  the film. And they really just, it was in
• 1:14:40
  the diner, Steve taking a couple extra minutes to talk to Don and
• 1:14:45
  Tara, and then in the car where Art jumps in with Don and then
• 1:14:50
  we see him drug her. Do you know why those moments
• 1:14:55
  got cut from the final? Because it's a short runtime, as
• 1:14:58
  is. The diner scene was cut for
• 1:15:01
  length. It was just like Damon just felt
• 1:15:04
  that that was just like, yeah, the scene was like, our producer
• 1:15:08
  thought it was already a long scene anyway.
• 1:15:10
  And yeah, and so he just cut some of that just for timing
• 1:15:15
  reasons and stuff like that. As for the the, the car scene
• 1:15:18
  with Dawn that was, Damon decided to cut that because he
• 1:15:22
  didn't want to reveal the needle before Art used it on Tara.
• 1:15:27
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, yeah, maybe I
• 1:15:30
  shouldn't have cut that because that is kind of funny with him
• 1:15:32
  screaming back. I love that.
• 1:15:33
  Yeah, I was about to say that's what I'm sad we missed out on.
• 1:15:35
  Was the silent Scream back at her?
• 1:15:37
  Yeah, cuz that was fun. That's like one of those things
• 1:15:40
  I just did in the car and they thought it was hysterical.
• 1:15:43
  Like, hey, let's film that. How much of that stuff was
• 1:15:47
  instructed of you? Like how much of it was you
• 1:15:49
  improvising it? Or like directed by Damian.
• 1:15:52
  There was a lot back and forth between the two of us and it was
• 1:15:55
  like, I mean, I would say about I don't, well, maybe about 70%
• 1:16:00
  was scripted, 30% improvised. Like especially a lot of stuff
• 1:16:02
  in the diner scene was improvised, Okay.
• 1:16:05
  And like I added that little boop on the nose later on
• 1:16:08
  because Dawn did that to me and the diner site booped her on the
• 1:16:11
  nose when I had her upside down. I was like, I wanted to bring
• 1:16:13
  that full circle and then me flicking Victoria off.
• 1:16:19
  I love that. That was not scripted.
• 1:16:22
  That was me just goofing around on set with Samantha because
• 1:16:25
  they're already saying, hey, let's go again.
• 1:16:27
  So I was like, ah, and they caught it and the whole crew
• 1:16:30
  started laughing and like, oh, we got to put that in the film
• 1:16:32
  because, yeah, I had talked about it at one point.
• 1:16:35
  It's like, shouldn't Art flick someone off?
• 1:16:38
  At one point? He's like, ah, this seems too
• 1:16:39
  contrived, but then it just worked.
• 1:16:42
  In that moment. He's like, well, that's actually
• 1:16:43
  a funny moment. It works very organically.
• 1:16:46
  And it was, it was an organic moment there.
• 1:16:49
  And it it's one of those things. But it's like, but like Part 2,
• 1:16:54
  there's a lot more improvisation because like when he wrote part
• 1:16:56
  one, he didn't know me at the time.
• 1:16:58
  He didn't know my style, cuz I like to play around and
• 1:17:01
  experiment and add things here or there.
• 1:17:03
  I did that especially a lot when I did stage work.
• 1:17:06
  And and so he wrote scenes in Part 2 where he gave the basic
• 1:17:11
  premise, the bare bones concept of what's going on in the
• 1:17:14
  moment. But he wouldn't say exactly what
• 1:17:16
  Art was doing cuz he's like, we'll just it's gonna be a bit
• 1:17:19
  where you just play around and we'll figure that out when we
• 1:17:24
  get on set. So we'll see what's in the
• 1:17:25
  environment and you just come up with a routine to do and that's
• 1:17:28
  what I would do. There are two scenes.
• 1:17:30
  Three scenes I can especially think of in Part 2 or I I do
• 1:17:34
  that, you know those things were so much fun.
• 1:17:36
  One of them he he definitely cut a lot out of for time reasons.
• 1:17:40
  But I I had told huge routines with this one object and I hope
• 1:17:45
  he puts that all on like the the DVD's.
• 1:17:47
  But it was, it was, it was cut for like, you know, timing
• 1:17:50
  reasons for a logistic purpose because like, why would this
• 1:17:53
  person just stand there watching me do this whole entire routine
• 1:17:56
  with this when they could just be running away?
• 1:18:00
  But it's just like, but it was fun.
• 1:18:01
  It was fun. And I love those kind of
• 1:18:03
  moments. And that's the great thing about
• 1:18:05
  Damian, too. He's a very collaborative type
• 1:18:08
  of director. He knows what he wants, but he's
• 1:18:10
  also willing to hear new ideas and new concepts and see what
• 1:18:14
  people can bring to it. And it sometimes has led to some
• 1:18:17
  great moments. I mean, we even had a very great
• 1:18:20
  happy accident moment that happened on set for Part 2 where
• 1:18:26
  it's it doesn't reveal much, but I was at one point just supposed
• 1:18:29
  to be bust through a window, and we had gotten to the breakaway
• 1:18:33
  window and stuff like that. We had ordered it, and they're
• 1:18:36
  taking out of the boxes late at night.
• 1:18:38
  And this is the last day we had to film in this location.
• 1:18:40
  So we had to film all the stuff that night, and they're opening
• 1:18:43
  the box and the window's broken and there's no way we could get
• 1:18:47
  a replacement or anything like that.
• 1:18:49
  So we're just like, oh Jesus, this whole scene depends on him
• 1:18:52
  coming through this window. So what can we do?
• 1:18:56
  So we just put our heads together and we concocted this
• 1:18:59
  whole new entire scene that revolves around this whole
• 1:19:04
  incident. And I I think it's so much
• 1:19:07
  better than what we had originally had scripted.
• 1:19:09
  And it's, it's a fun little scene there and it's creepy as
• 1:19:13
  hell too. Oh my God.
• 1:19:14
  It's very unnerving and it's not something I've never seen before
• 1:19:18
  in a horror film. And I I think it just adds more,
• 1:19:21
  you know, character to art. It's like, God, this guy is
• 1:19:26
  just, it's fun, I love it. And it never would have
• 1:19:29
  happened. We would never even thought
• 1:19:31
  about doing this if it had not been for that blast breaking.
• 1:19:35
  I love when that happens. So I feel like moments like that
• 1:19:37
  kind of make, like whenever you have to improvise and work like
• 1:19:41
  on your feet like that kind of brings some amazing moments.
• 1:19:45
  Yeah, yeah. It's just those happy accidents
• 1:19:50
  can be wonderful at times. It's just like, Yep, this worked
• 1:19:53
  out well. They actually improved things.
• 1:19:56
  Okay, so I figured since we already got the one random IMDb
• 1:20:01
  review, we'll go ahead and just get a couple of listener reviews
• 1:20:05
  that we have here. Okay.
• 1:20:07
  So none of them telling us to get therapy?
• 1:20:09
  No. Yeah, yeah, we don't.
• 1:20:12
  None of these people judge us for liking this.
• 1:20:15
  Yeah, yeah. All right, so this one is from
• 1:20:19
  Smiley. Sorry friend Chris from Always
• 1:20:22
  Room for more. Yeah, he says.
• 1:20:24
  What a fun name. Smiley.
• 1:20:27
  And he's got clowns in his name, too, so kind of fitting.
• 1:20:30
  Love it. He says Terrifier is a great
• 1:20:32
  scary clown film with a truly unsettling scene that makes
• 1:20:35
  everyone cross their legs. And then we have Michael Grover
• 1:20:40
  says I'm not a fan of torture porn, so I wasn't expecting to
• 1:20:43
  like it as much as I did. Genuinely creepy and disturbing
• 1:20:46
  with the quality of a nightmare. Outstanding performance by David
• 1:20:49
  Howard as Art. And yes, that scene will never
• 1:20:52
  be forgotten by anyone. The main take away from
• 1:20:56
  everybody? Yeah, the the world's worst
• 1:20:58
  gynecology appointment. Oh, no.
• 1:21:04
  Yeah, Wolf, I I always call it the the up the crack of Dawn
• 1:21:10
  scene. Yeah, that's great.
• 1:21:13
  Yeah, I love a pun and that is beautiful and terrible.
• 1:21:19
  It is all right. And I got one more of you here.
• 1:21:24
  It's from Creepy Girly on Instagram.
• 1:21:26
  It's a longer one, but she had a lot of thoughts and she was
• 1:21:30
  really excited for you to you to hear this.
• 1:21:33
  So it says that Terrifier was terrifying the entire time
• 1:21:36
  because characters acted like they had never seen a horror
• 1:21:39
  movie before and don't know the basic rules of survival.
• 1:21:42
  One Take off your helos when being chased by a killer. 2
• 1:21:45
  Never leave your friend alone on a creepy Halloween night 3 When
• 1:21:49
  you hear a killer is on the loose in the streets you walk
• 1:21:51
  the freaking door 4 Don't stab once and run.
• 1:21:55
  Double tap that shit. Make sure the killer is dead 5.
• 1:21:59
  If you are walked safe in a room and the police are on the way,
• 1:22:02
  stay there. Six Probably not a good idea to
• 1:22:05
  hide in the building. That says keep out ridden on or
• 1:22:08
  written with blood and the chain quiz.
• 1:22:11
  Seven, make sure the freaking killer is dead. 8 If the killer
• 1:22:15
  is down on the ground, don't wait for them to get up.
• 1:22:17
  We're better yet, ask them to get up before you attack.
• 1:22:20
  Stupid stupid stupid. You all deserve to die.
• 1:22:24
  That being said, I really love that this felt like an older
• 1:22:27
  film with lots of great practical effects.
• 1:22:30
  Fun scary film over the top core and then lots of hearts and
• 1:22:34
  ghosts. Yay, I love it.
• 1:22:39
  That's one of those things, like, I love those tropes that
• 1:22:42
  are in there, and we did that on purpose.
• 1:22:43
  Of course, it's just to acknowledge all that.
• 1:22:45
  It's just like, but I've always said we need to make a movie
• 1:22:49
  where we acknowledge all those tropes and show what would
• 1:22:53
  happen if someone did what they were supposed to do.
• 1:22:57
  Yeah. I guess it's like failing, it
• 1:22:59
  wouldn't have an effect. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
• 1:23:03
  It's like. I don't know.
• 1:23:05
  They run out of the house instead of running upstairs.
• 1:23:07
  And when they open the door, there's a Garrett wire on the
• 1:23:10
  door. I already thought of that.
• 1:23:12
  And it's like, yeah, I was like, you're next I think is one of
• 1:23:16
  those movies that acknowledges having somebody who knows the
• 1:23:21
  tropes and things to look out for and they have the Garret
• 1:23:25
  ready there in it, it gets the sister's neck.
• 1:23:29
  Yeah, love it. It's like those would be fun to
• 1:23:34
  address. You just like it's like, I mean,
• 1:23:37
  we address some of those, I would say in Part 2, it's just
• 1:23:41
  like someone running upstairs or something like that.
• 1:23:45
  It's like, yeah, why would they run upstairs?
• 1:23:47
  And we're like, This is why they would run upstairs instead of
• 1:23:49
  running out the door or something like that.
• 1:23:51
  So yeah, And it makes logistical sense.
• 1:23:53
  I'm like, of course. That's why I'll give Mike the
• 1:23:57
  benefit of the doubt for trying to leave the building because
• 1:24:00
  he's probably got some pretty severe head trauma.
• 1:24:03
  Might not be thinking the clearest in that moment.
• 1:24:06
  Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 1:24:08
  It is like, that's like if they had stayed in that room after
• 1:24:12
  calling the cops. Art Wood still found a way in
• 1:24:14
  there. Yeah, that's The thing is like,
• 1:24:16
  he would he would find a way. It's like he's he's he's a
• 1:24:20
  resourceful little pain in the ass.
• 1:24:26
  I kind of look at him as like a MacGyver type of character.
• 1:24:29
  He'll find a way to make it work, yeah.
• 1:24:32
  Yeah, I could definitely see that.
• 1:24:34
  Well, that's all I had for listener reviews, so all.
• 1:24:37
  Right, I love them. Those are great.
• 1:24:38
  It's like it's when we started writing Part 2, Damian looked at
• 1:24:45
  all the reviews that he got, both the negative and positive
• 1:24:48
  and took ideas from both so he could improve on everything.
• 1:24:53
  And I think he really addressed a lot of that kind of stuff.
• 1:24:55
  Especially I know, I know like one of the main beefs people had
• 1:24:58
  was the plot. Now, like even he was like kind
• 1:25:01
  of, I wish he had, he always felt like he could have, you
• 1:25:04
  know, expanded on Victoria's character even more, flesh her
• 1:25:08
  out better and stuff like that. But it's like, you know, that's
• 1:25:11
  that's just what it is like. But you know, when you look at
• 1:25:14
  it like a lot of the original slashers that came out, I'm like
• 1:25:18
  Texas Chainsaw Massacre, That really doesn't have much of A
• 1:25:20
  plot, no? It just.
• 1:25:23
  These teenagers go into this house with this crazy family and
• 1:25:26
  all hell breaks loose. That's how a lot of them started
• 1:25:29
  back in the day. They only started adding more
• 1:25:31
  complex plots as they did more sequels.
• 1:25:34
  Yeah, it's like, OK, we got to start really building the
• 1:25:37
  universe now. So that's that's kind of what we
• 1:25:39
  were acknowledging. There was like the basic bare
• 1:25:41
  bones plot. It's like actually, when you
• 1:25:43
  think about Terrify actually does have a real plot to, and
• 1:25:46
  it's not really really around part of the clown per se.
• 1:25:50
  It's around the character Vic. And it's it's actually kind of
• 1:25:54
  the same Plot is like one of the biggest graphic novels of comic
• 1:25:59
  history, The Killing Joke, and sit around that whole concept
• 1:26:03
  like all it takes is 1 bad Day to reduce the sameest person to
• 1:26:08
  lunacy. And that's what happens to Vic.
• 1:26:12
  I never even really thought about that.
• 1:26:13
  But yeah, that's, you know. Yeah, You're seeing It's Her
• 1:26:15
  story that the first film is her story.
• 1:26:17
  It shows what led her to the events that happened, the very,
• 1:26:21
  very beginning of the film. Like, what caused this perfectly
• 1:26:24
  sane young woman to go crazy and kill a talk show host?
• 1:26:32
  What drove her to that? One of the things that I love
• 1:26:35
  too, is that when Tara calls her to come pick her up and she
• 1:26:40
  realizes that she's got a midterm she's studying for, she
• 1:26:43
  doesn't try and guilt her, which I feel like is something that
• 1:26:47
  you would normally say. Hey, like, come on, please, real
• 1:26:50
  quick. I'll make it up to you.
• 1:26:52
  And she's like, shoot, no, we'll find another way.
• 1:26:54
  And then the drunk roommate comes in and she's like, well,
• 1:26:57
  I'm not gonna be able to study anyway, so I'll just Yep, like,
• 1:27:02
  if her roommate hadn't come in, how would things have gone
• 1:27:06
  differently? That's very that's.
• 1:27:08
  I never really thought of that. That's a great question to ask.
• 1:27:12
  It's like, wow, yeah. It's that stupid drunk
• 1:27:18
  roommate's fault. All this is because that's
• 1:27:20
  stupid drunk roommate. So we do something with every
• 1:27:25
  movie we talk about where we try and figure out which character
• 1:27:29
  we relate the most to. And I personally would say that
• 1:27:34
  I relate to Tara because if I'm gonna be murdered, it's because
• 1:27:39
  I have to pee. That's what's gonna happen and I
• 1:27:42
  can't hold it. That's great.
• 1:27:47
  Do you have one trav? You know, I'll go with Mike
• 1:27:53
  because cuz you're gonna exterminate rats with bug
• 1:27:57
  poison. Naturally, but I would say
• 1:28:02
  mostly because. I like to think of his reaction
• 1:28:05
  to whenever the cat lady comes up to him and is like, freaking
• 1:28:08
  out about stuff. That's our dog Talia barking at
• 1:28:10
  me. Like freaking out about
• 1:28:12
  something in the neighborhood. I'm like, it's fine, it's fine,
• 1:28:14
  Don't worry about it. Just.
• 1:28:16
  And then I'm gonna die one day because of it, because she's
• 1:28:18
  actually gonna be warning me of a real threat, and I'm not gonna
• 1:28:20
  take her seriously. Yeah.
• 1:28:23
  I I, I totally identify with Erik Symor's character there at
• 1:28:26
  the diner with, you know, cleaning up the bathroom, all
• 1:28:29
  that I was that. I know how that goes.
• 1:28:32
  It's like that poor guy was just at the wrong place at the wrong
• 1:28:35
  time. He was just trying to do his job
• 1:28:39
  and then he gets just killed for.
• 1:28:43
  Poor guy. Terrible last moments, yeah.
• 1:28:46
  I forgot. Terrible.
• 1:28:48
  It's a horrible way to just. It's a blade to the face like
• 1:28:51
  that. It's just like having his hand
• 1:28:55
  cut off. It's just like, my God, poor
• 1:28:59
  guy. Well, I guess having all of that
• 1:29:04
  said and done, I guess it's time for us to wrap this one up.
• 1:29:07
  Yeah. This is.
• 1:29:08
  I know this isn't so much fun talking.
• 1:29:11
  To you, Yeah. It's been amazing, yeah.
• 1:29:12
  We can. It's been fun talking to you
• 1:29:14
  guys too. Thank you.
• 1:29:15
  We can't thank you enough for joining us today.
• 1:29:18
  You're most welcome. It's been my pleasure.
• 1:29:20
  Yeah, this is one of the ones that when we started this
• 1:29:23
  podcast, we're like, yeah, we wanna talk about Terrifyre.
• 1:29:25
  But it would be amazing to have David on the show for this.
• 1:29:29
  And the fact that you actually agreed to do it was super
• 1:29:31
  special to us. So yeah, we really thank you.
• 1:29:33
  Well, I'm glad I could do it then.
• 1:29:37
  If you wanna let the people know you wanna plug yourself, where
• 1:29:41
  to find you. Obviously, upcoming projects
• 1:29:44
  include Terrifyre 2. Yeah, you can find me on
• 1:29:48
  Facebook and Instagram under David Howard Thornton.
• 1:29:52
  And of course, Terrifyre 2 is coming out by Halloween this
• 1:29:55
  year. We're about to get into the
• 1:29:57
  hands of distribution right now, so hopefully we can work out
• 1:29:59
  something there for release date and all that fun stuff.
• 1:30:02
  That's all out of my hands, so. I'm waiting on like, you know
• 1:30:07
  all that, just like you guys are right now.
• 1:30:10
  In addition to Terrifier too, I've also been working on
• 1:30:13
  another film called Stream Not Scream Stream With.
• 1:30:18
  A lot of the Terrify 2 team, and we have a lot of horror legends
• 1:30:22
  in that as well, like Jeffrey Combs, Dee Wallace, Daniel
• 1:30:25
  Harris, Melissa Rose, Tony Todd, Daniel Roebuck, Dave Sheridan,
• 1:30:31
  Oh my God. Terry Alexander It's just it's
• 1:30:35
  amazing cast. It's like an it's a great
• 1:30:39
  script. Hopefully it's going to be
• 1:30:40
  another franchise as well and Damian's doing the prosthetics
• 1:30:43
  on it, so you know that the kills are going to be gnarly.
• 1:30:46
  Awesome, so. And that's been a lot of fun to
• 1:30:49
  do. So we're almost finished with
• 1:30:50
  that. And yeah, I'm about to start
• 1:30:52
  doing a lot more conventions as well this year.
• 1:30:54
  Next month I'm gonna be at Harhound in Cincinnati.
• 1:30:59
  So if you're in that area, come out and see me.
• 1:31:01
  I'm gonna be at Astronomicon in April and gonna be doing a lot
• 1:31:06
  more in the coming year as well. Maybe you'll make it to
• 1:31:10
  Lexington in October. If they invite me, I'll come.
• 1:31:15
  I've got some message them on Facebook.
• 1:31:20
  Yeah, you're talking about what? Yeah, I'd love to come back.
• 1:31:21
  Scare fast? Yeah, definitely.
• 1:31:24
  All right. Cool.
• 1:31:25
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:31:27
  All right. Well, we'll go ahead and wrap
• 1:31:29
  this up. David, thanks again for coming
• 1:31:31
  on. Thank you.
• 1:31:32
  You're very welcome. Thank you.
• 1:31:38
  So that was our interview with David Howard Thornton.
• 1:31:41
  Like we said, not necessarily our typical format, but he was
• 1:31:47
  really psyched to hear everybody's reviews, answered
• 1:31:51
  some of our questions. If you guys are curious, I'm
• 1:31:55
  definitely keeping my writing the same.
• 1:31:59
  Actually, I might bump it up to an 8 1/2 after the discussions.
• 1:32:02
  OK, what made you change it? Just hearing about something
• 1:32:05
  like the thought processes that went behind the scene.
• 1:32:08
  I've already said that, you know, in the past that I'm very
• 1:32:10
  much biased towards if I hear stuff behind the scenes, I will
• 1:32:15
  let it affect how I view the movie.
• 1:32:17
  Yeah, so. No, Yeah.
• 1:32:18
  I mean it's it makes a difference.
• 1:32:20
  Really. Yeah.
• 1:32:22
  Yeah. I think I'm fuck, man.
• 1:32:25
  I'll put mine a path of .2 like for 9 1/2.
• 1:32:28
  Fuck it. It's close to a perfect movie.
• 1:32:30
  I know that he mentioned that. You know the plot.
• 1:32:33
  Like that It does have a plot and you know, it is there.
• 1:32:36
  But I like, I mean, even Damian himself, like recognizes this.
• 1:32:39
  It was a little bit weak and, you know, weaker than it could
• 1:32:43
  have been. So yeah, if they had that like
• 1:32:46
  fully unlock, I think that this would have been, yeah, a 10 for
• 1:32:50
  me. But I mean, everything else is
• 1:32:52
  so great. Like I said, like.
• 1:32:54
  They just know everything else. And yeah, I'm super excited for
• 1:32:58
  Terrified too, especially after talking to him.
• 1:33:00
  Yes. Hearing that, he's really taking
• 1:33:03
  in all of the feedback he's gotten and is willing to push
• 1:33:07
  things even farther, and I'm very excited to see what comes
• 1:33:12
  out of it. Not only that, they did a whole
• 1:33:15
  Kickstarter for just one scene in a movie.
• 1:33:18
  Yeah, yeah, I heard. And it exceeded its budget by a
• 1:33:21
  lot, so I can't wait. Like, that one scene got more
• 1:33:26
  funding than the first movie entirely.
• 1:33:27
  It's insane. I can't wait.
• 1:33:29
  Yeah, it's gonna be great. So, all right, Talia was very,
• 1:33:34
  very active during this movie, playing a lot, barking a lot.
• 1:33:38
  She watched a lot of the movie. I'm gonna say Ty.
• 1:33:41
  It probably gives us a nine, which is our average rating.
• 1:33:44
  She squeaked during it too. Yeah, she's with the toy, so.
• 1:33:46
  She's getting into character. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:33:49
  And Zoe did watch the movie with us.
• 1:33:51
  She loved it. Like, yeah, pretty much the
• 1:33:53
  whole movie. I think there was like, near the
• 1:33:55
  end she got up. I don't know where she went, but
• 1:33:58
  she was on the couch watching the TV the entire time.
• 1:34:01
  Even Scout watch. Even Scout was here.
• 1:34:03
  Yeah, it's a good movie. Everybody should watch it, yeah.
• 1:34:07
  So I don't even want to try and do a dream sequel just because
• 1:34:10
  I'm so excited to hear. We'll be covering the rest of
• 1:34:13
  this series as it comes out, probably.
• 1:34:16
  So we can probably do the next like whenever 2 comes out, we
• 1:34:19
  can do it. Hell yeah, yeah.
• 1:34:22
  So as you guys know, it is a new month, which means by the time
• 1:34:25
  this episode has come out that we will have released our March
• 1:34:29
  schedule. So be sure to go to our social
• 1:34:32
  media and check that out. I already plugged those at the
• 1:34:33
  beginning of the episode, but in honor of spring and their
• 1:34:41
  reawakening of the bugs of the world and all of our talk of
• 1:34:47
  Jawlows and how that's Travis's jam, I decided it would be fun
• 1:34:52
  to pull the one Jello that I love more than him.
• 1:34:56
  Not that I love the movie more than I love him.
• 1:34:58
  Like I love the movie more than he loves the movie.
• 1:35:00
  I don't. Know many might love it more
• 1:35:02
  than me. Maybe some days.
• 1:35:06
  And as a bonus, it has Donald Pleasants because Halloween 3
• 1:35:12
  does not have Donald Pleasants this month.
• 1:35:14
  Yeah, we're filling the quota. Yeah, we're filling the quota,
• 1:35:17
  but we're going to be watching phenomena.
• 1:35:19
  Yay. It is available if you have a
• 1:35:22
  premium subscription to Sling TV or Amazon Prime currently adds
• 1:35:27
  on shutter. As of today, when we're
• 1:35:31
  recording this at the end of February, supposedly it's going
• 1:35:34
  to be leaving shutter, but we're not.
• 1:35:37
  We don't have a confirmed date for when it's leaning right.
• 1:35:39
  Now some point in March, allegedly, we haven't seen any
• 1:35:42
  confirmation on that yet. Yeah, so, but it's also on to be
• 1:35:46
  that I saw. So yeah, it doesn't come up on
• 1:35:50
  Google when I search it, which is where I usually check for
• 1:35:54
  streaming information, it's not popping up to be, and normally
• 1:35:58
  it does. I've got an app that gives me
• 1:36:00
  all the stuff and it, yeah, and we were on to be last night and
• 1:36:03
  we saw phenomenon. But did we?
• 1:36:05
  Didn't we? I don't remember I pulled it up
• 1:36:07
  on the on my app though. OK, so yeah, yeah, but it's it's
• 1:36:12
  weird. It's weird.
• 1:36:14
  There is a girl that can talk to bugs, and there's a helpful
• 1:36:18
  monkey sidekick. Donald Pleasant's monkey
• 1:36:21
  sidekick Yeah, Donald Pleasant's is helpful monkey sidekick,
• 1:36:24
  although he ends up hanging out with the girl that talks to
• 1:36:27
  bugs. He hangs out with both of them.
• 1:36:29
  Yeah, there's a basement garbage swimming pool.
• 1:36:35
  It's Jennifer Conley too, so it's a good cast.
• 1:36:39
  Yeah, watch it for sure. It's a weird movie, but I really
• 1:36:43
  enjoy it. People will like it.
• 1:36:45
  Yeah. I think it's gonna be a fun way
• 1:36:46
  to talk about. Yeah.
• 1:36:47
  So. All right.
• 1:36:50
  Is that it? That's it, all right.
• 1:36:52
  Until next time. Bye.
• 1:37:05
  Sorry, I'm trying to think of. That's OK, I have those moments.