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Folks, We're Doing A Clip Show: Leftovers, 2025 · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. This is publishing on Christmas Day,
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  Speaker 1: so Happy Christmas to all who celebrates Ollie Jolly. All right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: the hoe, the mistletoe, the boor and the peanut gallery
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  Speaker 1: over here is a huge what.
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  Speaker 2: A scrunch You said brooge, You said woo in a
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  Speaker 2: boo way? Did say woo in a boo way? Max?
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  Speaker 2: Woo and a boo way?
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  Speaker 1: Our super producer, mister Max Williams. Kid, he's got claws. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's Noel Copenhagen Brown. They call me Ben Bullen in
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  Speaker 1: this part of the world.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, and uh.
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  Speaker 1: By us the biggest goose in all of London. This
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  Speaker 1: is traditionous. This is a We're big fans of odd traditions.
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  Speaker 1: We consider them straight seahorse teeth. So we're recording this
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  Speaker 1: so I love.
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  Speaker 2: That you're trying to make seahorse teeth come back. I'm
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  Speaker 2: here for it. Ben. It's so funny because it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even thin we acknowledged maybe we did at
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  Speaker 2: one point that that is from a very early episode
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  Speaker 2: of the show about wooden teeth. Or about various material teeth, right,
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  Speaker 2: and they called them seahorses because not because they were
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  Speaker 2: the little tiny guys, but because the horse of the
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  Speaker 2: sea the hippopotamus. Yeah straight. Can you imagine making teeth
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  Speaker 2: out of actual seahorses. They'd be all kit and like crunchy,
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  Speaker 2: and it'd be a lot of article. It'd be a
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  Speaker 2: lot of work for little return.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite hippopotamus facts that we haven't mentioned
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  Speaker 1: on air is that the world's most dangerous large land
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  Speaker 1: animal is a vegetarian. The hippopotamus is not attacking you
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  Speaker 1: to eat you. It simply does not like other things.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And my favorite fake hip hop line involving a hippopotamus
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  Speaker 2: is from Fight of the Concourse or they say I'm
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  Speaker 2: the hip hopopotamus. My rhymes are bottless and then.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like eminem in the first act of eight Mile,
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  Speaker 1: we're recording this for you, folks. It's December eighteenth, as
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  Speaker 1: we're coming in with Big into the year energy. If
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  Speaker 1: you're hearing this when it publishes, it is Christmas Day,
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  Speaker 1: Tiny Tim lives and it's a bad day for the
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  Speaker 1: biggest goose in all of London. We are again, We're big, big,
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  Speaker 1: fans of traditions, especially made up ones. I guess old
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  Speaker 1: tradition is made up. At some point, we think it's
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  Speaker 1: Ann's bar, we think it's Falcon Around this time of year,
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  Speaker 1: we'd like to take a moment and explore some of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff we did not get to in previous episodes,
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  Speaker 1: because we're starting a tradition.
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  Speaker 2: We are, we are it was so we've done it.
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  Speaker 1: We We've done some leftover episodes before, some things we didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Get to, but we did pull it at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the year, like yes, now we're making it a
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  Speaker 2: holiday thing. This is nole. We make no promises.
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  Speaker 1: We'll try to keep track of it. Crack the web, Max,
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  Speaker 1: Oh good luck, Max, you got some You got some raucous.
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  Speaker 4: Almost done with the States.
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  Speaker 1: Almost take that so if John and yeah, Max, we
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  Speaker 1: got some, you got some serious cats to hurt.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna do this in sort of three acts, the
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  Speaker 2: first of which comes from a series when You're in
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  Speaker 2: Deear to Max's Heart, the series not of the States,
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  Speaker 2: but of the Wonders of the ancient world.
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  Speaker 1: Ah. Yes, And then we'll touch on tupperware. We might
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  Speaker 1: have some stuff to say about hair and inventors who
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  Speaker 1: died by their own hand. Okay, so we're very excited
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  Speaker 1: about our Wonders of the World series. Please do check
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  Speaker 1: out our upcoming episode in twenty twenty six where we
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  Speaker 1: finally ask what doth a wonder make?
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  Speaker 2: In this you'll s here it many times over with
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  Speaker 2: varying degrees of success and Noel.
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  Speaker 1: In advance of that episode on what makes a Wonder Wondrous,
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to share some of the things we didn't
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  Speaker 1: get to in our previous episodes on the Wonders of
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  Speaker 1: the Ancient World. How about we go to the Hanging
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  Speaker 1: Gardens conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. These are some deep cuts. And as
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  Speaker 2: they say, the first cut is the deepest. That's because
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  Speaker 2: it's made of glass, which can quite literally cut you.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about the Glass Beach in northern California.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the Glass Beach in Northern California. It's quite literal
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  Speaker 1: when when you see the name that says glass because
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  Speaker 1: once upon a time this was a city dump.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not cool with it now I'm not either, Glass Beach.
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  Speaker 2: This makes me think of the horror stories my parents
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  Speaker 2: told me about going to certain beaches where there'd be
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  Speaker 2: like hypodermic needles washed up on the shore. This doesn't
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  Speaker 2: sound cool. It's true, though. It was once a city
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  Speaker 2: dumb site and now it has transformed into quite a
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  Speaker 2: glittering coastline. However, it's not glittering with you know, sand
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  Speaker 2: and polished stones. It is glittering with literal, actual facts glass.
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  Speaker 2: From the early nineteen hundreds to the mid nineteen sixties,
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  Speaker 2: bottles and cans just clap your hands and appliances were
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  Speaker 2: pushed over cliffs in a sickening display of buggery into
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  Speaker 2: the ocean. And what emerged over time is this material
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  Speaker 2: kind of I guess coalesced were polished pieces of sea glass.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's a super popular tourist site along the
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  Speaker 2: northern coast of California.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's even a sea glass museum.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I want to throw it a Max here. Max, you
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  Speaker 1: have seen the glass Beach. Could you describe your experience?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a number about ten years ago when
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  Speaker 4: I was going up on the whole West coast. I
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  Speaker 4: was on California one, the very famous highway, and it's
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  Speaker 4: like outside of Fort Bragg, and I knew nothing about this,
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  Speaker 4: but I went to this thing and I'm like, wow,
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  Speaker 4: this place is really cool. I had no idea though
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  Speaker 4: at the time that it was actual glass that hadd
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  Speaker 4: like like the way, like the way it been created,
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  Speaker 4: because it just looks like it's like some beautiful like
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  Speaker 4: volcanic rock beetus, you know up there in the Port
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  Speaker 4: of California, all the stands like black and.
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  Speaker 2: Like volcanic and stuff. Super cool.
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  Speaker 4: It looks so beautiful and like natural. And then when
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  Speaker 4: I was doing this research, literally when I found out
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  Speaker 4: how it happened, when when I was researching hanging gardens,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, this is really cool, but
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  Speaker 4: let's not do this again.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, some mistakes are to be acknowledged and not replicated.
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  Speaker 2: So life finds a way situation, you know, where it's
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  Speaker 2: like sort of over time, the environment sort of adapts
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  Speaker 2: to the things that people do to it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a humanity finds art in error. It
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  Speaker 1: is probably way to play it like art based on error.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, and this.
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  Speaker 1: Brings us to another thing from hanging gardens we didn't
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  Speaker 1: originally get to. You ever look at a lake and
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  Speaker 1: thought what if this was peak full disclosure. I have
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  Speaker 1: thought stuff like that often because I am partially color blind,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just sort of.
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  Speaker 2: Great, genuine question. Yeah, I'm like, what, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it is perhaps some clown tights got dunked in there.
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  Speaker 1: Rise of the clown Pants another classic episode. This brings
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  Speaker 1: us to Lake Hillier.
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  Speaker 2: Easily mistaken for Lake Hitler. If you're looking at it
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  Speaker 2: on the page, that's not what it is. Just be careful. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and it has a dot com with lots.
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  Speaker 1: Of good information about Yeah, so apparently NOL. This one
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  Speaker 1: is actually a actual fact. Shout out to Lauren Vogelbaum, friend.
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  Speaker 2: Of the show, Oh we saw last night at holiday. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: this is a.
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  Speaker 1: Pink colored lake because it lies just next to the
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  Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean, and if you regard it from above, the
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  Speaker 1: color of the lake really pops with the blue of
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  Speaker 1: the ocean. As long as you're able to see all
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  Speaker 1: the colors. Before we move on, we do have to
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  Speaker 1: we do have to explain the mystery. Once upon a
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  Speaker 1: time place was pink?
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  Speaker 2: Why was that? For sure? And as he said, nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with clown pants. It was to do with
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  Speaker 2: micro organisms. If anyone is from or has visited the
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta area, there is an incredible wonder of our area anyway,
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  Speaker 2: called Arabia Mountain where there are these incredible little red,
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  Speaker 2: bright red pools in certain areas, and it is because
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  Speaker 2: they are habitats to these micro organisms. Specifically, in the
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  Speaker 2: case of Lake Hillier, we're talking about hallow bacteria. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And as we know, fortunately or unfortunately, the pink
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  Speaker 1: color has started to dissipate.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing too. If you go to Arabia Mountain,
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  Speaker 2: they don't want you to trod in those pools because
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  Speaker 2: you do. They do want to preserve these ecosystems and
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  Speaker 2: they are quite striking. If you ever visit that place,
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  Speaker 2: it feels kind of like being on the moon or
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  Speaker 2: like another yeah or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Pet Cemetery too was filmed there. I spent parts
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  Speaker 1: of it. I spent a lot of formative years in
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  Speaker 1: Arabia Mountain.
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  Speaker 2: I know it well.
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  Speaker 1: Funny story about that, by which I mean sinister. There
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  Speaker 1: were a series of ritualized murders there in the nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventies that got covered up. But don't let that ruin
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  Speaker 1: your time. I love Arabia Mountain. I think everybody should
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  Speaker 1: go check it out. And while you are in the area,
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  Speaker 1: do please do please take an extra few hours to
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  Speaker 1: visit our Lady of the Holy Spirit, the Trappist monastery
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  Speaker 1: just right up the road. You can hang out the
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  Speaker 1: entire time. They've got a sick bonze garden, they've got
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  Speaker 1: a good cafe, they've got a great museum. The cathedral
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  Speaker 1: is stunning. I would just say, watch out for the geese.
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  Speaker 2: They're the only bad for that's words to live by,
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  Speaker 2: ben I'll always live your life watching out for the geese,
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  Speaker 2: because they'll sneak up on you when you least expect it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know how you could live at a
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  Speaker 1: place that serene and holy and still be a curmudgeon.
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  Speaker 2: But the geese do it. They really do. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 2: really cranky. Not to mention the level leveled up Pokemon
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  Speaker 2: form of the goose the swan, which literally dragged our
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  Speaker 2: friend Scott Benjamin as a small child to his watery grave.
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  Speaker 2: Yeh almost. I think it was going for his ice cream. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've had some run ins with those creatures as well.
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  Speaker 1: It look not to be anti swan. But anytime you
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  Speaker 1: think you can trust those creatures because they are picturesque,
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  Speaker 1: just pull up your Internet browser choice and look at
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  Speaker 1: the inside of.
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  Speaker 2: The beak for sure. They're just like looking into the
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  Speaker 2: maw of hell and just really quickly. I'm glad we
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  Speaker 2: talked about Arabia Mountain because it does have some really
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  Speaker 2: cool striking these little pools. They are apparently a very
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  Speaker 2: specific type of small fragile flower, and not exactly the
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  Speaker 2: same phenomenon we're talking about with Lake Hillier, but a
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  Speaker 2: worthy tangent less.
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  Speaker 1: The fourth largest basaltic extrusion. Actually, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: be fun at parties, you might be. You might be
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  Speaker 1: having a holiday shin dig and someone brings up a
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  Speaker 1: pink lake and you think, well, I see you, pink lake.
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  Speaker 1: I raise you Rainbow Mountain. This is This is from
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  Speaker 1: our mausoleum at Halakarnassis episode that's.
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  Speaker 2: Got Oh my god, there has to be a psychedelic
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  Speaker 2: rock band called Rainbow Mountains. Two of those mountains too good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you've got Rainbow is also a band. Let's put them
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  Speaker 2: together and we get Rainbow Mountain. Yeah, steal that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what what is the deal with Rainbow Mountain? I can
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  Speaker 2: already picture it in my mind. It just seems so painterly.
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  Speaker 2: Ah yeah yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: These are the mountains in China. The Joanie Danjia National Park.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to Carly Hoak in her article twenty two
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  Speaker 1: Strangest Natural Wonders of the World, they these mountains in
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  Speaker 1: Danja have a range of colors. They have this vast
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  Speaker 1: spectrum that again I probably I probably can't see, but
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  Speaker 1: I hope everybody else can.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They coat the mountains throughout the year. It's all due
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  Speaker 1: to layers of sediment that have settled over millions, millions
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  Speaker 1: of years, millennia upon millennia, and ancient people probably thought
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  Speaker 1: this was painted on purpose. It looks purposeful if you pull.
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  Speaker 2: Up a picture. Yeah, very painterly. Indeed, in fact, as
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  Speaker 2: they put it in the piece that we were referencing,
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  Speaker 2: or in Carly's piece, rather painted by the gods. And
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  Speaker 2: there are more wonders to get to. Such wonder we've
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  Speaker 2: showed you another.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move on to some Yeah, well this is another wonder.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah tupperware Uh switch so no, it's true, did it
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  Speaker 1: at the time?
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  Speaker 2: Remarkable? An absolute game changer.
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  Speaker 1: Resealable as well, remarkable and resealable. Before Tupperware, people often
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  Speaker 1: would preserve their leftovers by putting a shower cap over
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  Speaker 1: a bowl or a dish.
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  Speaker 2: Because pretty industrious. So I'm not gonna let it. I
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  Speaker 2: respect the I respect the life hack of that right.
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  Speaker 1: And Tupperware, as we learned, was displayed at the New
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  Speaker 1: York Museum of Modern Art in nineteen fifty six in.
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  Speaker 2: Total Wonder it became art deck. They got it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they know what modern art. Yeah, thank you both. This
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  Speaker 2: is the MoMA. I love the MoMA, so I think
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  Speaker 2: it's one of your favorites. To Ben, I love it too.
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  Speaker 2: H this this idea of Tupperware.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, there's a lot of stuff we didn't get to
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  Speaker 1: in that episode, but we did want to have a
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  Speaker 1: couple of mentions. Are pal the inventor Tupper also invented
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  Speaker 1: something called sure State hairpins, and they were supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be a better way to hold the modern hair. Problem
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  Speaker 1: is the product was unsuccessful. The slogan was so bad.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the slogan. Many women wear more or less false
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  Speaker 1: hair wigs cost good money, and romance or social prestige
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  Speaker 1: often hangs by the has on one's head. A good
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  Speaker 1: sure stay hairpin is needed. Creepy voice like Bond villain voice,
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  Speaker 1: aggressive side, a little, a little insulting, Yeah, especially like
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  Speaker 1: you're attacking people by trying to as a way to
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  Speaker 1: try to sell stuff to them.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I just googled sure Stay hairpins and nearly
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  Speaker 2: nothing comes up. Be you know why, because it was
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  Speaker 2: like the hairpin that time for good. Because all the
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  Speaker 2: ultimately needed in a design that hasn't changed in many, many, many,
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  Speaker 2: many many years is the humble bobby pin, which you
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  Speaker 2: can use to do all those things advertised and also
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  Speaker 2: to pick a lock during I Sure Stay was such
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  Speaker 2: a wampwomp as far as hair products go, because you don't.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like this and beat me here for
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  Speaker 2: this part, Max, because we're at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine you have your try to sell a car. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you Wait for it though, imagine you tried to sell
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  Speaker 2: a car right your forward and you're trying to sell
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  Speaker 2: cars and you.
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  Speaker 1: Say, hey, buddy, fuck you, you don't have a car.
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  Speaker 1: You're bad at hitch hiking. You need a Ford, And
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  Speaker 1: then later and then late thank you backs, and then
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  Speaker 1: later the top brass at Ford is like.
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  Speaker 2: Why does no one like our cars? Is it because
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  Speaker 2: we were rude to them? Mean to them? I'm surprised
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  Speaker 2: anybody still likes cars considering the scheme of it. All
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  Speaker 2: with the salespeople, and no shade on anybody that's a
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  Speaker 2: car salesman, but they do quite frequently have a certain
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  Speaker 2: aggressive demeanor.
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  Speaker 1: It's unnecessary rent sinky middle man system. It's very doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to it doesn't have to happen that way, just
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  Speaker 1: like privatized insurance.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have to be that way. Yeah, exactly got
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  Speaker 2: to be a better way, and there is, but it's
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  Speaker 2: one of those things that's just been that way, and
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  Speaker 2: these industries have a stranglehold on the way things are.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what is pleasant? Ben? What are pleasant?
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  Speaker 2: What are plus? Cartoons? Ah? Yes, we really like cartoons.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to stick with the hair for a
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  Speaker 1: second because in an earlier episode, courtesy of our research
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  Speaker 1: associate red on hair dye, we learned some surprising things.
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  Speaker 2: About Egypt and cartoons. Great. We did learn that the
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  Speaker 2: Rameses the Great's hair likely was red. There was a
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  Speaker 2: certain prestige that went along with that. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was a difficult hue to obtain and he wore it
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  Speaker 2: as a bit of a flex and then everyone else
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  Speaker 2: started wearing it too. It's it's escaping me a little
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  Speaker 2: bit bit. Could you maybe help us fill in the
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  Speaker 2: details about what was so special about red was that
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  Speaker 2: a material that was more precious. Uh, the idea is okay.
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  Speaker 1: So for a long time people were going back and
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  Speaker 1: forth about this, because a mummified corpse of a human
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  Speaker 1: sometimes when exposed to air, the the hair or whatever
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  Speaker 1: fibers are left over, will react to the atmosphere and
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  Speaker 1: turn red.
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  Speaker 2: However, ramses our boy.
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  Speaker 1: Was uh, he was rocking this as sort of an
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  Speaker 1: aspect of his regal persda right, because it was.
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  Speaker 2: Alex It was a standown. I did remember that detail.
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  Speaker 2: And I can't remember what the stuff was that they
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  Speaker 2: used to make it, but they mashed up all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of things like like what like powdered insect shells and
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  Speaker 2: various segments and all kinds of stuff. They were also
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  Speaker 2: so great at cosmetics and other remedies, you know, poultices
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  Speaker 2: and things. The Egyptians were onto something. But we did
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  Speaker 2: promise cartoon talk and if anyone remembers the early aughts,
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  Speaker 2: the earliest of aughts cartoon now our original series Courage
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  Speaker 2: the Cowardly Dog. You'll remember it's sort of a monster
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  Speaker 2: of the Week show wherein Courage the Cowardly Dog and
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  Speaker 2: his family, the kindly farmers are menaced by some sort
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  Speaker 2: of creature apparition. It's got Scooby Doo vibes, and despite
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  Speaker 2: his cowardliness, Courage usually saves the day. Yes, and in
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  Speaker 2: an episode from two thousand, actually this may when the
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  Speaker 2: episode is from. I seem to remember Courage me and
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  Speaker 2: have started a lot of those shows started in like
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: ninety nine, King Ramsey's Curse. The name of the episode,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the monster of that particular week was King Ramses. Ah.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the red hair. I just looked back at
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: our previous research. The red hair was associated with royalty
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and with the deity set. Okay, Yeah, So people are
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: still wondering whether this was a genetic familial trait. Was
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: this a natural redhead or day walker or was there
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: a dye job. We know that Ramses is redheaded. When
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: he plays his villainous role in encourage the cowardly dog.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: To be fair, he just wants back what is his.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: But then Courage and his family sort of gets swept
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: up in the madness and there really had nothing to
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: do with it. His sacred slab is toldn by Robbers
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and his apparition appears outside of Courage's you know, family's
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: farmhouse to get it back, and our researchers associate Ran
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: delightfully put the quote return the slab king ramses from.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: This, and there's another thing we wanted to mention about
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: hair Dye. Fast forward through Diamond Space to the story
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of Howard Hughes. We have an episode coming up on
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: how he laid, but he has a little bit of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: an historical footnote in the story of hair Dye. He's
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a guy born in Texas. He becomes a millionaire at
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the young age of eighteen. He inherits his father's estate
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and he's a really chiseled looking guy.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: You know, he's a Tony Stark character, right hire percent. Yeah,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a real smoke show, a real playboy. He got into Hollywood.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: You know, he was a producer and maybe even director
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: of some very popular Hollywood properties at the time, one
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of which won him an oscar. Yeah, something about PWPW
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: fighter planes. Some of the shots are like for the time,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: were revolutionary in terms of like showing air combat and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: people almost thought it was like news footage. It was
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: so well done.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: And in our episode on hair Dye, we talked about
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Gene Harlowe, one of the original blonde Bombshells another smoke
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: show right right, because of the hair dye, which was
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: one of the decisions made by Howard Hughes. He signed
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: her up to act and then he directed her first
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: major role, Hell's Angels nineteen thirty. So Howard here to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: get away with that swear in the title be right, Yeah,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Howard Hughes, we're saying is partially responsible for the concept
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: of the blonde bombshell And we cannot wait for you
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: to hear the rest of our the rest of our exploration.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: We really leave this story out. I mean that I
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: did because he was a real pill about it, like yeah,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: really very toxically masculine in his wanting to shape miss
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Harlow in this image that he had in mind, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: to get your hair that shade of blonde back then
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: required all sorts of very damaging damaging not only to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: the hair but to like the skin. And I think
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: even some of the chemicals that could have caused I
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: don't want to go so far to get into your
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: system is cons Yeah. Can we go into a little
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: more detail about that?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I do want to huses his own thing. There's a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: million things we could talk about I love how did
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: it go? Like, what what ended up happening with with
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Gene Harlowe? Is she okay? She died at the age
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: of twenty six. Dude, it's not necessarily hair related, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: it couldn't have been good all those fumes and stuff too.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of how he's behavior, even
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: at that point is indicative of his precipitous mental decline.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: If you've seen the film, which I only just saw
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: it for the first time very recently. Of course it
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: was good Scorsese, but it was pretty good. He yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: died alone of his own choice. He was surrounded by whomever,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you know, would he wanted to have in his company,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: having that level of power, but he excluded himself.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: And I believe he was like peeing in the jars
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: and like wearing tissue.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Boxes for shoes, not trimming his toenails, his fingernails.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Look, all the money in the world doesn't solve every problem.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: In fact, I was very interested in some research from
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a few years ago that says we'd have to adjust
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: for inflation, but statistics show us that making your country
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: or your community's equivalent of seventy thousand dollars a year.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Up to that point, money does provide happiness. After that,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you run the risk of getting into Howard Hughes situation.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: More money, more problems. I think p did he once
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: said no, that wasn't him.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I think he wrote, yes, I had to watch very
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: good I mean, you know good quote unquote.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: But it's like that guy was apparently just an utter fraud. Yeah. Yeah,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: not not a good neude, not an ideal person nor musician.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Going back to Howard Hughes, we do have a bit
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of a through li like we've been doing for a
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: while now, a series of mutual unanimous fascination for us
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: inventors who.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Died by their own hands, but not in the way
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you might typically think of that phrase. They didn't unlive
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: themselves on purpose? Right, oh great?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Is like what's it called, ben the Ignoble Prize Awards.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: That's right, there's the Ignoble Prize, and the Darwin Awards
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: is the one for people that have like The Ignoble
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Prize I think is like the Razzies of of the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: science and innovation, and the Darwin Awards is awarded posthumously
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to people who unlive themselves in bizarre and accidental ways.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: And the Ignoble Awards are a raucous good time. They
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: actually this year the Ignoble Awards are mpr aired part
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: of the Ignoble Awards, and the people who show up
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: are great like these are these are scientists, These are
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: actual academics. They love sharing their work. It's in all
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: around good time. It's kind of like a nicer version,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: a nicer, more nerdy version of a Friars Club roast.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you who knows how to party? Been scientists?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I can't even You know, back when
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I used to party even, I couldn't hang with mathematicians.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Those guys are nuts, absolutely nuts, always jotting formulas on
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the back of our cocktail napkins, making you feel dumb.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'd always tried to talk into huffin ether It.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what century is this? What's on that rag? Delightful?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: So some inventors we wanted to mention we have more
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of this coming up in future iterations of our series.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Because it's not anarly exhaustible subject.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a well that keeps giving terrible of frightening water.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But here are a few we didn't get to previously.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: We want to introduce you to a guy named William Bullock.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: He before we beat will Though Noel Max, we got
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to meet a guy named Richard Hoe Hoe. That's right,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: and eighteen thirty two. Printing was revolutionized by mister Hoe
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: with an e Hoe who converted the process from one
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that used flat surface as a transferring to paper into
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: one that used these cylinders. Think of like a classic
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: newspaper printing them tage, you know, rolling across the paper.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: This is apparently a lot more efficient, took up a
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: LSS space all of that stuff. Earlier presses could only
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: print around four hundred sheets an hour, whereas the cylinder
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: press could turn out between one thousand and four thousand
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: pages and that same amount of time.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's real. That's eighteen thirty two. Our
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: buddy Willie is coming on to stage in eighteen sixty five.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: He has a breakthrough with something he calls the Bullock
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Press in a burst of humility because his last name
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: is Bullock. This is a rotary press that gets fed
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: by a continuous sheet of paper. Right, so again we're
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: thinking back to the newspaper printing press montage scenes. This
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: continuous roll of paper like a roll of toilet paper.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It's stored on one side of the machine and just
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: goes through. You can cut it later. This saves so
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: much time because also the way l.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Ron Hubbard wrote his short story, like I believe he
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: actually typed onto rolls of paper because they were just
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: like throw away. He wrote so many of these schlucky
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: sci fi story before he found it a religion.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: There is a true story about one of the Beat
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: poets or Beat writers, Jack Kerouac, who took a bunch
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: of stimulants, became somehow intoxicated on uppers, and then just
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: wrote on a typewriter on a continuous sheet of paper
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and just kept going.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: So we have mister Hoe who invented the cylinder rolling process,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and then mister Bullock who introduced the continuous roll of
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: paper that just doubled up on the efficiency of what
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Hoe had previously done. Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, so the pre Hoe printing press, which is not
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: going to sound weird out of context ever, Yeah, Yeah,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: four hundred sheets per hour if it's at its top
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: redline speed. The Hoe printing press, because of the cylinder
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: we mentioned, could go one thousand to four thousand pages
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: in an hour. The Bullock press can go twelve thousand
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: sheets per hour. And but wait there's more. It can
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: print on both sides and the rolls are like five
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: miles long.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Even today, I'm impressed that a printer can print on
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: both sides. Yeah, yeah, wow. The future we're living in
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: is wild.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: That sense of anticipation with the page goes out and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you see the first pasion and it's like not yet,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: not yet, and then it goes back in.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: But then you can imagine that to achieve that level
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: of productivity, these roles had to be going that a
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: hefty clip, that's the thing.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, so our buddy Willie does not have a
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: long time to rest on his laurels. He does successfully
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: get this out into the world, and he makes a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: big splash. He makes some headlines on multiple levels. But
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: he is at the Philadelphia Public Ledger in eighteen sixty
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: seven supervising a bullet press and he tries to kick
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a driving belt onto a pulley.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and very similar to the plot of The Stephen Kings,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: the mangler dude gets me hard on the leg. Yeah, crushed.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: He doesn't die right then and there, though, as is
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: often the case with some of these inventor deaths. It
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: gets infected and goes gangrenous, and he eventually does succumb
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: to the infection just a couple of days later. The
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Mangler is such a great short story, pretty good. Do
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you remember what led to the Mangler being a ghost
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: machine that could they accidentally put like gelatin in it,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: or like a variety of things that got spilled into
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: this laundry press were just the right things to curse
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: it and have it be sncient demonic entities they accidentally
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: summoned to demon right with just a little bit of
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the wrong herbs. Because I believe the gelatin it was
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: literally like horse hooves that they used to put in.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: The material that's in horse hooves, I guess was part
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: of whatever the spiritual was. But you know, people give
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Stephen King a hard time because it's like what if
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I made a spooky newspaper machine. Okay, it's the hell
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: of a drug man, that's true. I love that guy.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Oh he's the best, and I'm glad that he got right,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you know, in terms of his struggles with addiction, and
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I think he's you know, continued to do some really
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: impressive output over the It's like.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Blood of a virgin bat's blood, horses hoof because there's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: a container of jello.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: That's right or something. Yeah. I don't remember how the
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: bat gets in there, but it happens over the span
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: of time. But yeah, okay, so our guy.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Willie Bullock is no more unfortunately. Yeah, and he had also,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: by the way, credit we're due, he had created several
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: other pretty impressive mechanical devices, a grain drill away, a
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: proto automation for seed planting, a hay press.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: And why don't we end this? What do you guys ever?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Do you guys ever think about riding motorcycles?
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I think about it and then I immediately recoil and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: think that's a terrible idea. It seems fine, but I
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: just it's so dangerous. I do like to ride bikes,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: but I'm very cautious.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Good friend of the show, Andrew Howard has a bike.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It's a moto boy. He's a moto he's a moto man.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: We say, he has a bike.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: You can ride it if you like. It's got a basket,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: pedals and things to make it look good.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd give it to us if he could, but
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: somebody borrowed it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: So really kind of girl that fits into my Yeah.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So this is the story not of our pal Andrew,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: but of our pal Sylvester H.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Roper.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: In eighteen ninety six, before the dawn of the modern
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: crotch rockets. Our buddy is perfecting his roper steam velocipede.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I love the word. It's velociped You know what's funny.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: William Bullock, who you're talking about, is the name also
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: of the sheriff in the show Deadwood, and there is
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: a plot line in that show that involves a velocipede.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It is what you might call a bone shaker, the
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: one with the wheel in front. See like the muscleman
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: with the curly must a penny farthing, but this was
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: called the character who's a believe runs the tavern, one
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: of the taverns, one of the lesser taverns. He brings
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: a velocipede and shows it to everybody. So what is
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the twist in this version of the thing.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is basically a primitive or proto version of
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: the modern motorcycle. Story goes that one day Sly is
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: out or still I like Sly. Yeah, all right, So
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: buddy Sylvester is working on the roper steam powered velocipede.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: He goes out, I don't right.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: He goes to drive this thing, and he wants to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: prove to the population, prove to the public in the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: world at large, that his invention is a good idea. Basically,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: look how fast it goes. Steam is the future. Yeah,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: we can go long distances. Yeah, we can go on
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: public roads.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Off road even Wow, I don't know about that. But
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like you know, of course, maybe you're picturing
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: some sort of horrific Hindenburg explosion, you know, but that's
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: not what happened at all. It was just it was
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the guy's time, and it happens to be the time
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: that he was demonstrating the velocipied. His heart went too quickly.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's too stoked.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got so excited, he got overrevved, He suffered
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a heart attack, He was incapacitated while on the vehicle,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and he lost control of the velociped He crashed and died.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: At least he died doing what he loved.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, at least, yes, that is true. Man, I was
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: going to make a joke, but you're absolutely right. It
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: also makes us wonder about the way's history could have gone.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: You know if this guy popularized this steam velociped we
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: have steam powered motorbikes today.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I would say probably not the steam.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: There was steam powered lots of stuff, and then eventually
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: it just you know, gas power just was like, yeah,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: we can do better, right.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And we are powered by neither gas nor steam. We
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: are powered by a fascination of all things ridiculous. Raffeine
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Hey caffe Oh yes, and shout out to no offense Max,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Big thank you to our other super producer all of
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the caffe.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Oh we're sus.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: What power is your it's what steam power is you're
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: super producer.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah we uh we.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: By the way, folks were an audio podcast at present.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: We all three organically like good improv. We just held
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: up our caffeinated drinks and cheers.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, colbrew and hot coffee at the same time.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: That's maniac you cold brew for cold brew for us,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: hot brew for the rest. Big thanks to our super producer,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: mister Max Williams. Big thanks to our composer Alex Williams.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Big big thanks to the Rude Dude's a ridiculous crime.
• 37:02
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• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Many Christmas.
• 37:07
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• 37:10
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