Latest / Club 520 Podcast / Club 520 - Ish Smith on his record-breaking NBA career, Wake Forest team with Jeff Teague
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Alright, we back at the episode of Club twenty Podcasts.
- 0:08Speaker 1: I'm the host, my name is DJ Well special guest.
- 0:10Speaker 1: To my left, were gonna introduce my man's last to
- 0:12Speaker 1: my far left, usual suspect, my dog Bishop after prailes,
- 0:16Speaker 1: my nigga be here.
- 0:17Speaker 2: How you what today? Man?
- 0:18Speaker 3: Cool?
- 0:18Speaker 2: And let's get to it.
- 0:19Speaker 1: They got they got it, tally man. They said, how
- 0:21Speaker 1: many episodes you're gonna have the violent shoes on?
- 0:23Speaker 2: Man? That the white license?
- 0:25Speaker 3: Oh?
- 0:26Speaker 2: Season two?
- 0:27Speaker 3: Season two?
- 0:28Speaker 2: What's up? Inspiring Doe boys across the nations.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Start worrying about it? Fuck y'all.
- 0:34Speaker 2: To my right, a juicual, my dog young your team
- 0:37Speaker 2: you up?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Man, bro got some weak heat on today. I don't
- 0:40Speaker 1: know they was weak closing. It is kind of weak though,
- 0:43Speaker 1: but the SB so no matter. Flex If you don't
- 0:46Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that jar a little like today,
- 0:48Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure that's accounting for Yeah, I oh,
- 0:50Speaker 1: like twenty dollars eleven, Mike, you count it.
- 0:55Speaker 2: That's Hayten, that's Niche Lokey too.
- 0:59Speaker 1: But to my left man for guests, man, we got
- 1:01Speaker 1: one of the fastest players to ever play fucking NBA
- 1:05Speaker 1: record breaking the NBA and just finishes last year in
- 1:08Speaker 1: the n b A coming off a championship.
- 1:12Speaker 4: Conference last season. We know where you're at now, point guard.
- 1:15Speaker 4: Respect we're.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Uh, one of the coldest point guards I ever played
- 1:25Speaker 1: against him, play with probably the fastest, one of the
- 1:28Speaker 1: nicest dudes you ever met.
- 1:29Speaker 2: I'm surprised he hasn't won one.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Of the awards for the nicest dudes in the NBA,
- 1:33Speaker 1: for sure, But my dog is Smith.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Hey, man, I appreciate you.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Yeah, man, appreciate you. Put up the five twenty man
- 1:40Speaker 1: all right, now, you fastest? Obviously we know that who
- 1:44Speaker 1: is the warm player you played against? Like, damn, he
- 1:46Speaker 1: might be faster than.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Me him over there. Really Yeah, no, I'm not gassy, man.
- 1:52Speaker 4: I don't think people understand like we know Derrick Rose
- 1:54Speaker 4: his that m v P year that he was on
- 1:57Speaker 4: one and then uh Wall was fast. But just Westbrook,
- 2:03Speaker 4: Westbrook was fast to Westbrooks fast. Yeah, Westbrook was fast.
- 2:06Speaker 2: No, but you remember when you and Todd Lawson went
- 2:08Speaker 2: at it.
- 2:09Speaker 4: Let's before you get going there. I was talking to
- 2:12Speaker 4: Marren Williams today, so we was talking. I was like, yo,
- 2:18Speaker 4: remember that Carolina game. Many Jeff looked at the bitchy.
- 2:26Speaker 4: I don't even want to go to this k gardy,
- 2:29Speaker 4: I said, y'all, Jeff was on one matter of fact,
- 2:32Speaker 4: I didn't even look at the rim that whole game.
- 2:34Speaker 4: I was like, man, I'm throwing it the Jeff the
- 2:35Speaker 4: whole game, and uh about me not? Cast need to know,
- 2:43Speaker 4: like I'm looking at the camera, like I know, we
- 2:45Speaker 4: get the podcast. We joke around you, you know what
- 2:47Speaker 4: I mean. We have a good time. But cast need
- 2:49Speaker 4: to know, like Jeff tige man, he was he was.
- 2:53Speaker 4: He was you know what I mean, Like he was him,
- 2:55Speaker 4: he really was.
- 2:56Speaker 1: But him and Ty Lawson in that game they went
- 2:59Speaker 1: layup for lay. That ship was four points that game
- 3:02Speaker 1: he had thirty four. He had thirty four. Man, listen
- 3:06Speaker 1: when you and that's just the mark of a point guard.
- 3:09Speaker 4: Like my job to make sure he ate like he
- 3:11Speaker 4: was rolling and so like I gave him the ball
- 3:14Speaker 4: and he kept it going. But uh, those five dudes
- 3:17Speaker 4: like Jeff thy lost was fast to myself, ship, John Wall,
- 3:22Speaker 4: Derrick Rose, Russell West. But it was fast fast ship.
- 3:26Speaker 4: That was yeah, it was fast.
- 3:28Speaker 3: Who else man, you call some deer fox smoke yet yo?
- 3:33Speaker 2: Yeah that's what yo.
- 3:35Speaker 4: He he when he first came in league. He up
- 3:39Speaker 4: there too, the fox up there too. Uh think about
- 3:43Speaker 4: dee Fox though, he ain't got me yet because as
- 3:46Speaker 4: soon as he scored, Man, get the ball out quick.
- 3:48Speaker 4: I'm running right like you better be doing like this
- 3:52Speaker 4: so uh yeah, nah, he ain't. He ain't embarrassed me yet.
- 3:56Speaker 4: He ain't, but he this year he might have my knees.
- 4:00Speaker 4: I gotta want my knees up. Man, that's crazy.
- 4:08Speaker 5: It was crazy, bro already already ready, already looking at
- 4:14Speaker 5: you when y'all be letting them trainers, get y'all ready
- 4:16Speaker 5: for the game, I'm like.
- 4:23Speaker 2: The job, man, want this gu.
- 4:28Speaker 4: Athletic trainers as Wow, we just add them to the photography.
- 4:32Speaker 4: Listening with the party promoters for sure. Sorry yeah yeah
- 4:39Speaker 4: so nah but defox defoxes. I've seen the part we
- 4:42Speaker 4: just talking about. Defose He he wanted them to.
- 4:46Speaker 2: Man, but damn, my career for show for real is Garland. Yeah,
- 4:52Speaker 2: but yeah, we got started with the orders. Man.
- 4:55Speaker 1: You know you're from North Carolina. Man, when did you
- 4:57Speaker 1: start off playing ball? And how did that start for you?
- 4:59Speaker 4: Man? I was a kid like my dad, I think
- 5:02Speaker 4: he uh smith, yeah, my dad like he wanted to,
- 5:05Speaker 4: like play basketball. Everybody used to joke around, like he
- 5:08Speaker 4: used to play in a thirty five and over church
- 5:10Speaker 4: league and so like for him, like that was his thing,
- 5:13Speaker 4: Like he wanted to And I think he just you know,
- 5:15Speaker 4: put all that into me at Paul's and uh wanted
- 5:18Speaker 4: me to, like I gotta.
- 5:24Speaker 3: Anybody outside of the field.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you, I got you. I gotta make
- 5:27Speaker 2: sure I'm on the point.
- 5:29Speaker 4: So yeah, it started my dad, like and my sister
- 5:32Speaker 4: she she hooped my brother Jeff no autumn like they played.
- 5:37Speaker 4: They might didn't play at the highest level, but they
- 5:41Speaker 4: That's what kind of started when I was a kid
- 5:42Speaker 4: and started when it was a kid. I played church
- 5:44Speaker 4: league when I was like five six years old, and
- 5:46Speaker 4: then I kind of just ran with it from there.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Yeah that's when you realize you was fast on everybody
- 5:50Speaker 2: else at five.
- 5:50Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what's crazy. I always been fast.
- 5:53Speaker 2: I can tell yeah, I always been fast.
- 5:55Speaker 4: Like and it ain't on on like if we got
- 5:57Speaker 4: on the line and like ran suicide, I'm not that fast.
- 6:00Speaker 4: As soon as we get a basketball, like and like
- 6:03Speaker 4: I was out.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Literally the fastest the ball every sing man. When Jeff
- 6:07Speaker 2: wanted to be fast. He wanted to, but but this
- 6:11Speaker 2: is what I learned to cases full court crossing over
- 6:15Speaker 2: run as fast. I used to work on that joint
- 6:18Speaker 2: in the gym. White full speed crossovers.
- 6:20Speaker 4: Yeah, we used to. I used to work on it.
- 6:22Speaker 4: I was on you and Eric that this kid, Yeah,
- 6:25Speaker 4: I heard Eric go was problem.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Yeah. He probably one of the best hig School players
- 6:31Speaker 2: to ever played basketball, y'all.
- 6:32Speaker 4: I was talking to Gordon hay Well. He was talking
- 6:34Speaker 4: about all the boys that was in Indiana basketball during
- 6:36Speaker 4: that time.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Nice run.
- 6:41Speaker 4: It was a probably y'all had it all man.
- 6:44Speaker 1: And what's crazy is Gore was cold, but like he
- 6:46Speaker 1: was alway, he was my year. Jeff was our seven.
- 6:48Speaker 1: So they had our sectional a lot. Imagine being as
- 6:51Speaker 1: good as you are and still having to deal with
- 6:52Speaker 1: another NBA player of your section.
- 6:54Speaker 4: That's crazy.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Any of the basketball, especially that time period, was different
- 6:57Speaker 1: because everybody had a pro player at one point?
- 7:01Speaker 3: Was it like that where you was from?
- 7:03Speaker 4: Man? Honestly, we had Jamie Skiing. Jamie was good man.
- 7:08Speaker 4: He went to vc U.
- 7:09Speaker 2: That was the final four run. Who was Steph was from?
- 7:12Speaker 4: You know? I grew up playing with Steph. Funny story, Yo,
- 7:17Speaker 4: So Jeff, we're watching. Uh, Jeff came to We was
- 7:21Speaker 4: at at what's a much joint? When you go in
- 7:25Speaker 4: the back door, I don't even remember it. Wait, so
- 7:27Speaker 4: you came to the room hung out. We was used
- 7:28Speaker 4: to play the game at uh at a phase room
- 7:32Speaker 4: video game.
- 7:33Speaker 2: So we was playing video.
- 7:34Speaker 4: Games and and Jeff like, this is Steph. The first
- 7:38Speaker 4: year of Steph at Hoop. I was like, yeah, you
- 7:40Speaker 4: know I used to play you waste that you didn't man,
- 7:43Speaker 4: I said, yeah, you don't remember. I play like I
- 7:45Speaker 4: played you in and whatever the case is. So they
- 7:47Speaker 4: end up doing something I think, yeah, all American things.
- 7:51Speaker 4: And Jeff was like, oh you did play.
- 7:56Speaker 2: I was like yeah, I was like this nigga.
- 7:59Speaker 5: Yeah it was a nigga too named Neil Mack that
- 8:05Speaker 5: was so down.
- 8:06Speaker 4: That's the homie. So he worked, Uh he do training.
- 8:10Speaker 4: So yeah, so he was getting me ready for the season.
- 8:13Speaker 4: And then I ain't gonna lie to you like I
- 8:14Speaker 4: was like, I ain't trying to play no more. Like
- 8:17Speaker 4: I was really like chilling, and uh, that's still my guy.
- 8:20Speaker 4: We talked all the time, being d back.
- 8:22Speaker 5: That nigga was at five start. Came with me bro
- 8:24Speaker 5: a while back. He was the coast nigga in the gym.
- 8:27Speaker 4: You know, fire start crazy.
- 8:29Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:30Speaker 4: L D.
- 8:31Speaker 3: Smith was in from North Carolina to who will.
- 8:34Speaker 4: Yeah he was Jeff l D. One of the most
- 8:41Speaker 4: athletics all Jose aside. No was that's our guy. Many
- 8:49Speaker 4: shout out to him, crazy shout out. He worked with
- 8:51Speaker 4: the G League now.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Uh j Yeah, he worked for Brooklyn. Yeah.
- 8:57Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, when I'm talking about athletic, can defend two
- 9:00Speaker 4: time All defensive Uh, we got man, we got a
- 9:05Speaker 4: super talented team. But l D was there.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Who else?
- 9:10Speaker 4: I don't know who else? Who else was it?
- 9:11Speaker 3: Donnelle Mack had a niggname, Sonny. I can't think of
- 9:15Speaker 3: that name. We'll get back to it.
- 9:17Speaker 4: You tapped, Yeah, real North Carolina world wild took my job.
- 9:26Speaker 3: I was supposed to be scamming these little necks a
- 9:27Speaker 3: long time ago.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Bro High School.
- 9:32Speaker 3: This is part of my cold niggas in North Carolina.
- 9:36Speaker 3: I just know y'all don't really get spoken on.
- 9:38Speaker 5: Everybody always speaking on the high school basketball back then,
- 9:40Speaker 5: we was like prominent big for sure.
- 9:42Speaker 3: But Pauls. But y'all d C North Carolina, New York,
- 9:46Speaker 3: y'all have some motherfuckers too out there.
- 9:48Speaker 4: Brod is by the point when he's growing up. Yeah,
- 9:52Speaker 4: you ain't know that na growing up?
- 9:56Speaker 2: Who else is?
- 9:58Speaker 4: Remember used to play a care Atlanta will Graves?
- 10:02Speaker 5: Oh yeah, William Graves had a clip Nigga. Yeah it
- 10:05Speaker 5: was nice for sure, that's sixth class.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, nigga really tapped in Nigga a tar Hill
- 10:13Speaker 2: North Carolina.
- 10:13Speaker 4: I told you I really like Carolina Squad.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Who you grew up up? I ain't gonna lot to you. Man,
- 10:20Speaker 2: my fault wait for hers? It was Carolina. How did
- 10:23Speaker 2: you get to wait? Like? Why did you go to
- 10:25Speaker 2: Wabody else?
- 10:26Speaker 4: Oh? Well, I ain't gonna lie to you. So when
- 10:28Speaker 4: I was a kid, like Muggy Bowl is my favorite player,
- 10:31Speaker 4: I knew I wan't gonna be tall. So I was like, man,
- 10:33Speaker 4: Muggy you know he fast whatever the case is. So
- 10:36Speaker 4: I knew he went to Wake Forest. Then Wake had
- 10:40Speaker 4: this other buzz with Tim Duncan Randolph Childrens.
- 10:43Speaker 2: I'm like, oh bet, Carolina was like, I ain't gonna.
- 10:46Speaker 4: Lie to you. Like they had uh Antoine James and
- 10:51Speaker 4: Vince Carter. They was loaded and colder like yeah they was,
- 10:55Speaker 4: that's colder flop man. They was cold blooded, like from
- 10:59Speaker 4: top to bottom and so like I was a fan
- 11:02Speaker 4: of them, but I you know what I mean, I
- 11:03Speaker 4: was thinking as I start getting older, like and they
- 11:05Speaker 4: ain't recruit me like they recruit outside of the state
- 11:08Speaker 4: of wherever they were going with, you know what I mean,
- 11:10Speaker 4: and that Carolina. So I didn't get who they want.
- 11:12Speaker 4: So then all of a sudden, Jay like we what happened?
- 11:15Speaker 2: They and then Chris Paul came, Josh Howard. Josh Howard.
- 11:22Speaker 4: And then way Fares always recruited off Carolina kids and
- 11:25Speaker 4: they would use it to be like yo, Duke and
- 11:27Speaker 4: Carolina ain't offer y'all, and so that.
- 11:29Speaker 2: We use that like to go play. Then when we
- 11:31Speaker 2: were you know, different things like.
- 11:32Speaker 4: That, I don't know how we got J T.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Chris. Yeah, see that's what it was like. Chris had
- 11:37Speaker 2: that buzz going.
- 11:38Speaker 4: We was like, yo, and you know, I didn't want
- 11:41Speaker 4: to play no princess that offense, So I want to
- 11:42Speaker 4: play fast.
- 11:44Speaker 2: But that's that's really be honest with you. Like I
- 11:46Speaker 2: was like, Yo, this point guard.
- 11:47Speaker 4: You if you really think about wake Forest, like it's
- 11:50Speaker 4: really point guard, you really think about.
- 11:52Speaker 2: It, like what the school as you thinking about though,
- 11:56Speaker 2: I say.
- 11:57Speaker 4: I don't know nobody else. They let us play like
- 12:00Speaker 4: the NBA game for real.
- 12:01Speaker 2: I start of Kentucky off.
- 12:04Speaker 1: I can't think of too many schools to just consistently
- 12:05Speaker 1: put out guards at that level, especially league guards.
- 12:08Speaker 2: But who out of Like you got Kentucky, you got
- 12:10Speaker 2: John Wall and Eric Blessing, they got Okay.
- 12:20Speaker 6: I don't even like the niggas.
- 12:23Speaker 4: But it's just like and then like the last ten years,
- 12:27Speaker 4: Cole started like, yeah, got.
- 12:30Speaker 3: So you're trying to give yeah ship, You're trying to
- 12:35Speaker 3: get a ship to wait for us for a point guard.
- 12:37Speaker 1: You though, after you start naming, once you start naming
- 12:43Speaker 1: all them, we've done got rings we dot, we.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Got yeah, we got rings? Man, that was crazy, j
- 12:52Speaker 2: you go ahead, man, don't mean nothing. How was it
- 12:57Speaker 2: waiting for your first year?
- 13:00Speaker 3: How was your first year at wait?
- 13:01Speaker 4: First year? It wasn't good? Like, yeah, it wasn't good man.
- 13:05Speaker 4: We was like fifteen and sixteen. It was like five
- 13:08Speaker 4: and eleven. In the ACC, I tore a ligaman in
- 13:10Speaker 4: my thumb. I had never been hurt before in my life,
- 13:12Speaker 4: like tour ligamany in my thumb. Like the this was
- 13:16Speaker 4: crazy about college man like, you know, God rest his soul.
- 13:19Speaker 4: Skip process like I remember I tore my ligament. We
- 13:22Speaker 4: were playing air force in my so my thumb like
- 13:25Speaker 4: it's down here and skip like. Man, you know I
- 13:28Speaker 4: recruited like tough guy. I'm like yeah, like I'm like dang,
- 13:34Speaker 4: like all right, man, let me let me take you.
- 13:36Speaker 4: Every time somebody hit, like I would get this rush
- 13:38Speaker 4: to my all. So we finished the season whatever the case.
- 13:41Speaker 4: But we knew we had like a really good recruiting
- 13:43Speaker 4: class in James, Jeff and Gary. So we was like, Yo,
- 13:46Speaker 4: we're gonna be striight. We're gonna be better next year.
- 13:48Speaker 4: We're gonna be way better next year. And when they
- 13:50Speaker 4: came in, man, we just got like my sophomore junior year,
- 13:54Speaker 4: we was we got Yeah, we was turned man. We
- 13:57Speaker 4: had wait, yeah, we turned we had wake like turned man,
- 14:01Speaker 4: we had wake turned up. I'm talking about people used
- 14:03Speaker 4: to come into the practice facility and like sitting there
- 14:07Speaker 4: and watch us practice. I'm talking about I'm saying, play
- 14:10Speaker 4: pick up. They're sitting in there like hey, Yo, you know,
- 14:12Speaker 4: hey what time y'all playing pick up? Was like we're
- 14:14Speaker 4: gonna be in there like four o'clock. They used to
- 14:16Speaker 4: sit in there like be like locked in, be like
- 14:19Speaker 4: fifty people in the gym just watching. I'm like, yo,
- 14:22Speaker 4: this it was crazy because we had talent. I mean
- 14:25Speaker 4: you think about the talented guy. We had four guys
- 14:27Speaker 4: that played ten plus years in the league in fact,
- 14:29Speaker 4: and I'm talking about like you know, legit, and that
- 14:31Speaker 4: they weren't just on the team whatever the case is.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
- 14:37Speaker 4: That's crazy. That don't usually happen. And wake ain't seen
- 14:40Speaker 4: it since they definitely won't y'all. And I'm looking right
- 14:43Speaker 4: here just to get right here. Yes, wait, get my
- 14:47Speaker 4: boy in the Hall of Fame and this jersey retiring?
- 14:49Speaker 2: He do that?
- 14:51Speaker 1: No?
- 14:55Speaker 2: I mad dad seriously about wait for man.
- 14:59Speaker 4: Yeah, but but we talked about listen, were talking about
- 15:02Speaker 4: on the court, though, talk about it is we're talking
- 15:04Speaker 4: about on the court. You got to give him his respect.
- 15:06Speaker 4: All American was second, which is crazy. He got second
- 15:11Speaker 4: team All a c C.
- 15:12Speaker 2: But All America.
- 15:13Speaker 6: That's why I.
- 15:14Speaker 3: Compared Antonio Brown all the time.
- 15:19Speaker 4: Yah, they think about second team All a CC. Listen,
- 15:24Speaker 4: we was the number one team in the country. That's
- 15:25Speaker 4: only happened one other time. That's Chris Paul. You average
- 15:29Speaker 4: twenty in college. You're not harder than the average twenty
- 15:31Speaker 4: in college hard bro, bro, that's hard.
- 15:35Speaker 2: And then a champion All star come on, man like thing.
- 15:39Speaker 5: For sure, like talking about his off court activity.
- 15:44Speaker 2: That was my dude.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Like he was he was like I met though, Yeah,
- 15:47Speaker 1: the first time we met, talk about that. It was
- 15:50Speaker 1: always nice as hell. So when I met him, I'm
- 15:52Speaker 1: like he was on the recruit visit.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I met him. He was cool as hell my
- 15:55Speaker 2: recruiting visits. But I was an asshole. Y'all know me.
- 15:58Speaker 2: I'm an asshole.
- 15:58Speaker 1: He was just quiet. Want I don't talk. When I
- 16:01Speaker 1: first met, I ain't say a word. But when I
- 16:03Speaker 1: got to wait for its, it's like my dad, you
- 16:06Speaker 1: know my dad.
- 16:06Speaker 2: He messed up.
- 16:07Speaker 4: Dude.
- 16:08Speaker 2: He like they already got a point guard. He let
- 16:09Speaker 2: the acc and assists I did.
- 16:12Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, He's like, you probably gonna play, so
- 16:16Speaker 1: you know me, I'm like, I'm on some like man,
- 16:18Speaker 1: fuck that nigga.
- 16:20Speaker 2: That's how I'm coming in. But he knew how to
- 16:21Speaker 2: get you.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Yeah, so I go, I come in. It's like, what's
- 16:24Speaker 1: the baby. I'm like, man, what the fuck is shaking
- 16:26Speaker 1: my head for the nigga know I about taking spot,
- 16:29Speaker 1: Like That's what I'm here for.
- 16:30Speaker 2: He like, yeah, y'all need something to eat? You want
- 16:32Speaker 2: to go somewhere, ye want to do it. I'm like,
- 16:33Speaker 2: he keep talking to me.
- 16:34Speaker 1: So the whole time, I'm not trying to talk to
- 16:36Speaker 1: this nigga, I'm telling Gear Geary like, nah, is cool
- 16:38Speaker 1: as hell?
- 16:39Speaker 2: Bro.
- 16:39Speaker 1: I'm like nah, Gary like nah, Bro, you tripping. I'm like, nah,
- 16:42Speaker 1: I ain't fucking with it.
- 16:44Speaker 2: So we go hoop.
- 16:45Speaker 1: I'm going straight at you and he going back at me,
- 16:47Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, he can hoop. I'm like, fuck it,
- 16:50Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going. So we start talking and Ship.
- 16:52Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, shoot, nigga. He like da da da da.
- 16:54Speaker 2: He going back.
- 16:55Speaker 4: He was like he looked at me. He was like,
- 16:57Speaker 4: all right, bet the niggas started. When we start doing
- 17:00Speaker 4: they start doing a pick a roll called waggle. I
- 17:02Speaker 4: ain't never guard no screening row man.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Man. They killing us. All the football players and they're like,
- 17:06Speaker 2: oh shit, oh Ship.
- 17:09Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, motherfucker's gonna have to learn something.
- 17:12Speaker 4: I was like, I'm like, damn, so I leave.
- 17:14Speaker 2: It's Gary. We go in the room.
- 17:16Speaker 1: Gary like that nigga who came. I was like, man,
- 17:19Speaker 1: nigga all right. I was like, I'm gonna take it
- 17:21Speaker 1: spoter niggas like nah.
- 17:24Speaker 4: But you know what we did though, man, we uh
- 17:26Speaker 4: one thing about me. Man, My mom and dad taught
- 17:29Speaker 4: me this, like you respect everybody like they game what
- 17:31Speaker 4: they can do. Like I learned this when I was
- 17:34Speaker 4: I was young. So you know in your area, you're
- 17:35Speaker 4: the coldest in your area. I went to the Nike Jamboree.
- 17:38Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all remember that Nike jam. So
- 17:42Speaker 4: I went to the Nike Jamboree. Man, I see there.
- 17:45Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, Kevin Love. I'm like, oh, I ain't
- 17:48Speaker 4: that good. But it taught me like yo, these like
- 17:51Speaker 4: it's dudes all over this country that got game. So
- 17:54Speaker 4: when Jeff came, I was just like, yo, he's just
- 17:55Speaker 4: gonna make us better. Like and our games. We both
- 17:59Speaker 4: needed the ball. But I was so like, I.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Was like, man, do you like I ain't tripping?
- 18:05Speaker 4: And so like his freshman year average fourteen and then
- 18:08Speaker 4: his second year you average twenty. And he'll tell you like, man,
- 18:11Speaker 4: the donkey had in Maryland.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Oh. I was like, man, I'm giving it to the
- 18:16Speaker 2: homie like remember, yeah, Like what a different nigga I'm
- 18:21Speaker 2: trying to say. I told you he's the nicest person every.
- 18:24Speaker 4: I'm also somebody I know.
- 18:25Speaker 2: Like so for Jay, like you just got Paul's like
- 18:29Speaker 2: cracking shield Like.
- 18:32Speaker 7: That's why I said, Paul, That's what I said, Paul,
- 18:38Speaker 7: I just got got up nigga, one of them ones.
- 18:46Speaker 2: Y'all.
- 18:47Speaker 6: Don't start that.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Don't start that.
- 18:50Speaker 8: No text message you have, but that's how Jay is
- 18:55Speaker 8: trying to crack the ship. You turn D twelve, Yo,
- 19:02Speaker 8: Oh my, tell the story show with Jay, like you know,
- 19:07Speaker 8: he was like he tried to come off like, yo,
- 19:09Speaker 8: I ain't talking to nobody like I'm locked in.
- 19:12Speaker 2: And this is the thing I did.
- 19:13Speaker 4: I did love about him, like he he knew what
- 19:15Speaker 4: he wanted when he came into school, like he knew
- 19:18Speaker 4: like y'a, I'm gonna be here for a little bit
- 19:19Speaker 4: then I'm out, Like, yo, I'm not I ain't coming
- 19:22Speaker 4: in here, Like I remember, yo, who would you work
- 19:25Speaker 4: it out with? First day at workouts, he was shooting
- 19:29Speaker 4: and somebody was like, hey, we could get your shooting.
- 19:31Speaker 4: He was like, I ain't doing that, like yo, this
- 19:33Speaker 4: is no. He was realized he was like, I ain't
- 19:35Speaker 4: doing that. Like y'all recruited me average twenty something in
- 19:39Speaker 4: high school with the same jump shot facts and I
- 19:43Speaker 4: was like, dang, it was all gullible. They like this,
- 19:47Speaker 4: do it like this, and I was man, all flicked
- 19:49Speaker 4: and everything was like, nah, this is why I'm doing it,
- 19:52Speaker 4: like y'all, I ain't changing. And I respected that. Like
- 19:55Speaker 4: he was like he knew what he wanted to do.
- 19:57Speaker 4: He'd be like, y'all is I ain't lifting no ways,
- 19:59Speaker 4: I'm just.
- 20:00Speaker 2: Doing push up. That's what he's doing.
- 20:05Speaker 4: Man.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Niggas was man, they was. He was crazy.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Bro.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Man, y'all talking about a nigga arms. Bro. They had
- 20:12Speaker 2: it was on steroids, bro, that's all they had us doing.
- 20:15Speaker 1: He was so strong. I was like, that's when I
- 20:17Speaker 1: started lifting because I was like.
- 20:19Speaker 4: Now, but Jay used to just do push ups like
- 20:21Speaker 4: push him, sit up. I come in the room when
- 20:23Speaker 4: I come, hollered them him and G and do.
- 20:31Speaker 2: With this loose white you know. He was just getting
- 20:39Speaker 2: it like.
- 20:41Speaker 4: G yeah for real and so uh. But like just
- 20:44Speaker 4: stuff like that. He was already like, and this is
- 20:46Speaker 4: why I give him a lot of them. He already
- 20:48Speaker 4: knew what he wanted when he came into school, like y'all,
- 20:50Speaker 4: you could see somebody like he was going like, y'all,
- 20:52Speaker 4: I'm locked in and go I'm locked in. And so
- 20:55Speaker 4: for me, it was a situation where I was like, dang, y'all.
- 20:58Speaker 4: So I ain't never like, had no ill will to
- 20:59Speaker 4: a nah. That was my guy, like he don't know this,
- 21:02Speaker 4: like we took it, and then he'd be trying to
- 21:04Speaker 4: fake on people.
- 21:05Speaker 2: So we had a what class. I'm abody to tell you.
- 21:08Speaker 2: We had a class, so Jeff act like he.
- 21:10Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on we're doing. And we
- 21:13Speaker 4: had a public speaking class, right damn. And so people
- 21:16Speaker 4: be sitting in there like, yeah, man, Jeff, Yeah, you
- 21:20Speaker 4: know it's you're so articulate, you know, I mean, I
- 21:23Speaker 4: call him, you know what I mean? Like they you
- 21:25Speaker 4: know what I mean, so articulately whatever. I'm like, y'all,
- 21:27Speaker 4: I could just know how to switch it up.
- 21:28Speaker 2: I can be around y'all. And then I go there
- 21:30Speaker 2: and like be cool.
- 21:31Speaker 4: So Jeff get up there, and when I say this
- 21:35Speaker 4: negro I'm talking about, he gave the best speech.
- 21:38Speaker 2: People sitting there like this like Jeff did.
- 21:46Speaker 5: Now he killed it did I change his voice?
- 21:50Speaker 2: Wait for he did.
- 21:53Speaker 4: But but the thing I respected it though, Like I said,
- 21:55Speaker 4: like when he came in, I knew he was called
- 21:58Speaker 4: and I knew like if we was gonna get that,
- 22:00Speaker 4: we wanted to get to like he had to be
- 22:02Speaker 4: the best version of him. James had to be the
- 22:03Speaker 4: best version of him for Rupe l d Chase, David,
- 22:07Speaker 4: all those guys had to be the best version of him.
- 22:09Speaker 4: And we weren't gonna win if he wasn't getting a dug.
- 22:12Speaker 4: It was just the facts, like.
- 22:13Speaker 1: He No, that ain't true, because you you the reason
- 22:16Speaker 1: we all got better because he was like you was motivated,
- 22:19Speaker 1: like we always motivated differently, but you would like push
- 22:22Speaker 1: everybody like we going to hoop, like some of.
- 22:24Speaker 2: Our teammates didn't want to go.
- 22:26Speaker 1: So he will say something like that's why we were
- 22:28Speaker 1: sad last year and then they had come hoop Like
- 22:30Speaker 1: he was like the leader.
- 22:32Speaker 2: It was nof segondate.
- 22:36Speaker 4: So his first his first year, we like you know
- 22:40Speaker 4: what I mean, We were like we actually should have
- 22:42Speaker 4: made it to the n I T that year. We
- 22:43Speaker 4: should have.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait talk about tournaments since you're the leader.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Yeah, he was, I was, I got something your story luck. Yeah,
- 22:55Speaker 4: let's talk about that second or whatever.
- 22:57Speaker 2: That second year. You should have lived that.
- 23:00Speaker 4: He was the leader, go ahead, hey, so much I
- 23:04Speaker 4: think about Remember he was in the locker room when we.
- 23:07Speaker 5: Lost and we lost state, right.
- 23:10Speaker 2: Ja said, yeah, I'm going to the league.
- 23:14Speaker 4: Hey, hard man, I apologizeta tell this story. So Harve
- 23:17Speaker 4: was sitting there crying like, hey, y'all got so much talent,
- 23:21Speaker 4: and man, y'all sitting here, yeah hard. Everybody got their
- 23:26Speaker 4: hands down and like hard crying. And I felt bad
- 23:32Speaker 4: hard because it was the senior year. It was Jeff
- 23:34Speaker 4: had the choice to come back and go. James had
- 23:36Speaker 4: the choice to come back, and Gou had a choice,
- 23:39Speaker 4: you know, I mean we all was like Harv was
- 23:41Speaker 4: like the only singing him Micha Lapour and Bobby.
- 23:44Speaker 2: But Harv was like, man, your goal, this talent.
- 23:47Speaker 4: All of a sudden, this get quiet. James said, hey, man,
- 23:51Speaker 4: shut that up, man, and then that I'm going to
- 23:57Speaker 4: the league. Yeah, I said. This is the bad part
- 24:00Speaker 4: about it is, you know how you get a woman,
- 24:02Speaker 4: your mam will tell you like, hey, suck it up.
- 24:05Speaker 4: That's what he was trying to like, was trying to
- 24:09Speaker 4: like he was like, I'm like, oh man, most dudes like,
- 24:13Speaker 4: hey man, this is my career.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Like I don't know Jamesohson, No, I don't know Jamesson.
- 24:19Speaker 2: I don't know James. When they got in the pocket
- 24:22Speaker 2: with James.
- 24:22Speaker 1: And I was I remember that, I was like, I
- 24:25Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. Fuck you everybody you love niggas
- 24:28Speaker 1: James said, say less.
- 24:32Speaker 2: The whole prank. I was just looking at that.
- 24:35Speaker 3: Yo.
- 24:36Speaker 4: They they were like best friends and then all of
- 24:39Speaker 4: a sudden, like they had us like they had us pect.
- 24:43Speaker 4: James and Jeff they were like best friends. Like they
- 24:45Speaker 4: came in what was yourll three? What was yours? Yeah,
- 24:49Speaker 4: fellow friend, fellow friends. So they came in.
- 24:51Speaker 2: I didn't know about this rap group. Yeah, I know, right.
- 24:54Speaker 4: They did everything together, and so Jeff was like ascending,
- 24:58Speaker 4: James was descending. Like James was averaging like sixteen a game.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Jeff was averaged.
- 25:02Speaker 4: It was hooping, and you know, my job was to
- 25:05Speaker 4: be like man, I gotta connect, like everybody together. And
- 25:08Speaker 4: so all of a sudden, like I think like they
- 25:14Speaker 4: both was going the same place, but they was like
- 25:16Speaker 4: I don't know what it was. So they in practice
- 25:17Speaker 4: they like just went off. We were like that, what's
- 25:19Speaker 4: going on? All of a sudden he said, he said, say,
- 25:23Speaker 4: let's we was looking like he ain't never said nothing.
- 25:27Speaker 2: I was like, ah, ship, like that was new. Yeah.
- 25:30Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I talked too, but I'm thinking
- 25:32Speaker 1: about Heim, Like, damn not this motherfucker.
- 25:34Speaker 2: I fight everybody, but not him.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Man, James, that nigga said, I'm a fuck you up
- 25:40Speaker 1: niggas sounds like the term ship.
- 25:43Speaker 4: I was no wonder that niggart was like, don't worry,
- 25:45Speaker 4: but I ain't gonna let yall fight. Yeah, please be
- 25:47Speaker 4: there because he was like the piece bag please. It's funny.
- 25:52Speaker 4: We had the free throw line.
- 25:53Speaker 2: You remember forgetting yo.
- 25:58Speaker 4: He had the free throw line, y'all. We're playing against
- 26:02Speaker 4: dang Jeff. I think this might have been your first
- 26:04Speaker 4: thirty point game. We was playing. Uh, this is why
- 26:06Speaker 4: I knew he was gonna be nice. We went to Anahei.
- 26:10Speaker 4: We had the free throw line. We're playing against who's
- 26:13Speaker 4: a little short cold pepper you youtub So we man,
- 26:18Speaker 4: we're going back and forth with them, and so we
- 26:19Speaker 4: had the free throw line.
- 26:21Speaker 2: It's James, the dude from utap me.
- 26:24Speaker 4: Jeff on the other side of the cross from me,
- 26:27Speaker 4: and then there was another utap playing and I think
- 26:29Speaker 4: it might have been like chasing something down there off
- 26:31Speaker 4: for Root and so James going back and forth with
- 26:34Speaker 4: the dude. They talking crazy at each other, and James said, Hey, Jeff,
- 26:39Speaker 4: y'all better tell him it's basketball stuff. That ag what
- 26:42Speaker 4: I do.
- 26:43Speaker 6: This is what my ball.
- 26:45Speaker 4: Was like, that's what he and we was like, yo, bro,
- 26:47Speaker 4: you might that is what he really do. Bro, it's
- 26:50Speaker 4: a part time Yeah. And you know who Colepepper is, right, yeah,
- 26:56Speaker 4: that's so we like, I'm I'm telling him like, bro,
- 27:03Speaker 4: you gotta do Yeah. Yeah, I was like this, I'm like, bro,
- 27:06Speaker 4: this what I'm like? He really be on that? Man.
- 27:08Speaker 4: We had to tell him. Oh boys, like he was like,
- 27:11Speaker 4: was like.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what he did. I was like, he
- 27:13Speaker 2: on hoop bro, he fighting man? He many I heard
- 27:15Speaker 2: it here from smith Man. Let's get Jeff back to
- 27:17Speaker 2: white Man. Let's get this. Oh you will come back.
- 27:20Speaker 2: I go, yeah, when they do your Hall of Fame,
- 27:22Speaker 2: I'm going back. Yeah.
- 27:23Speaker 1: When they doing it, I don't know what they're doing
- 27:25Speaker 1: for really, it's supposed to be like coming up the right, Well.
- 27:28Speaker 4: What now I'm playing like I don't think I'll be
- 27:30Speaker 4: able to do it, but but I do. And I'm
- 27:32Speaker 4: not even joking, like they need to, like it should
- 27:35Speaker 4: have been Jeff first, then James, and then they can
- 27:39Speaker 4: put me in for Rook in there or for up
- 27:40Speaker 4: before me, whatever the case is.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Because deserved though, Bro, all of us, James burn down.
- 27:47Speaker 4: I mean, we deserved.
- 27:50Speaker 2: You know what with us because James left right after
- 27:53Speaker 2: we left Los Bro.
- 27:54Speaker 1: He was on a flight. Yeah, this sounds crazy for you. Yeah,
- 28:00Speaker 1: it's waita.
- 28:03Speaker 3: Is that a Catholic school.
- 28:04Speaker 4: No, it's a Baptist school. Baptist yeah, yeah, But my
- 28:10Speaker 4: thing is.
- 28:10Speaker 5: Like I had a couple of Baptist sneaks rolled around
- 28:12Speaker 5: that It's crazy.
- 28:17Speaker 4: These dudes really like Jeff and James. Really, I'm telling you, man,
- 28:21Speaker 4: they held it down for us. That's and I told him.
- 28:24Speaker 4: I was like, it was funny my junior year when
- 28:27Speaker 4: I came back from injuries and they was rolling, I
- 28:30Speaker 4: was like, man, how I find my way? I was like, man,
- 28:34Speaker 4: these dudes are about to be pulling me over. I
- 28:35Speaker 4: gotta I gotta like, I gotta come in and hoop
- 28:38Speaker 4: and uh. But they held it down, like they held
- 28:41Speaker 4: it down for Shure, that's why they should be in
- 28:43Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame.
- 28:44Speaker 2: That's and that's real, and that's far.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Like you said, everybody there end up being a league
- 28:48Speaker 1: down pushing each other to the leg. For you, we're
- 28:49Speaker 1: trying to make that transition from White's NBA. How was
- 28:52Speaker 1: it for you, like the workout process and then going
- 28:53Speaker 1: to get into the rockets. Yeah, so, man, my my
- 28:58Speaker 1: four years was up and down far as like injuries
- 29:01Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
- 29:02Speaker 4: But like I and I'm not just trying to gasp
- 29:04Speaker 4: my dude because he's here, But like I knew jeff
- 29:07Speaker 4: It made it to the leaves of nineteen pick at
- 29:09Speaker 4: one time he was a lottery pick and one time
- 29:12Speaker 4: he was a lot o. So I'm thinking to myself, like, yo,
- 29:14Speaker 4: I'm playing against the best point guard in the in
- 29:17Speaker 4: the in the country at the time, Like yo, I
- 29:19Speaker 4: could like I can you know, I mean, I'll be straight.
- 29:23Speaker 4: So when I went through the process, I remember who
- 29:26Speaker 4: was it Memphis They was deciding between three guys. It
- 29:31Speaker 4: was Jordan Crawford, my boy, Jordan Jordan. I played against
- 29:35Speaker 4: jac Xavier. Jordan gave us like thirty something professional bucket man,
- 29:40Speaker 4: he a bucket and I'll be trying to tell sid
- 29:42Speaker 4: and I'll be trying to tell the young dudes like, yo,
- 29:45Speaker 4: it's bigger than that, because there's some dudes that came
- 29:47Speaker 4: through here. It's ten times as good as you and
- 29:49Speaker 4: ain't all about like, oh man, I get a bucket.
- 29:52Speaker 4: Nah man, Like it's not like Jordan Crawford, Marsha Brook.
- 29:59Speaker 4: This is what I'm telling people like yo, y'all don't understand.
- 30:01Speaker 4: Like Terrence Williams, I played with him, and what these
- 30:04Speaker 4: dudes was cold. And so anyway, I get a call
- 30:10Speaker 4: and they was like, man, they trying to make a
- 30:11Speaker 4: decision between grievous Jordan Crawford or yeah, grievous my guy.
- 30:17Speaker 4: So Jordan went twenty fifth and then they decided to
- 30:20Speaker 4: go grievous. And then I can get a phone call
- 30:23Speaker 4: from Oklahoma City and they was like, man, we got
- 30:26Speaker 4: a forty second pick. You know, we'll take you, but
- 30:28Speaker 4: we're gonna stash you over see. I said no, no,
- 30:31Speaker 4: and I got on the street. That had to be
- 30:33Speaker 4: the lord because for me, like I ain't know what
- 30:36Speaker 4: I was doing all the time. I said, bro, I'm
- 30:37Speaker 4: not no overseas, but I don't stash me oversea because
- 30:39Speaker 4: I know you can get over there and get lost.
- 30:41Speaker 4: So I said, nah, I go n drafted. I find
- 30:43Speaker 4: my way. And so then like the fiftieth pick came
- 30:47Speaker 4: and that's when Detroit and Houston was like, hey, Detroit
- 30:51Speaker 4: actually offered me a Joe Dumars actually offered me a
- 30:55Speaker 4: one year guaranteed deal. And I was like, nah, you
- 30:57Speaker 4: know what, I just go to Houston And.
- 31:00Speaker 1: What made you do that? This nigga was y you
- 31:03Speaker 1: talk about betting on yourself.
- 31:04Speaker 2: What made you do? You know me, man, I don't
- 31:06Speaker 2: know whatever you thinking?
- 31:11Speaker 4: For one year guaranteed and then Houston offered a two
- 31:15Speaker 4: year non guaranteed. Most years was young guaranteed. And I
- 31:18Speaker 4: was just like, man, you know what. They played the
- 31:21Speaker 4: pay They played fast. You know remember back in the day,
- 31:23Speaker 4: Dero was like, I can't go to no system playing,
- 31:26Speaker 4: So so I went Houston played fast. At the time,
- 31:31Speaker 4: Rick Adaman was our coach. Y'all gonna cry laughing. It
- 31:33Speaker 4: was y'all mean. On my team, Brandon not Brandon brad
- 31:37Speaker 4: Miller playmate, No, just miss Tate the man.
- 31:43Speaker 2: Listen.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Another Kyle Lowry was on the team. I had Shane Battier,
- 31:49Speaker 1: that was a nasty roster.
- 31:52Speaker 2: But that was when Kevin Martin. But that's when you came.
- 31:57Speaker 4: Jared Jefferies.
- 31:58Speaker 2: Oh that was a filter. That's why. God, man, Joe.
- 32:04Speaker 9: Crazy different now like yeah, we're gonna keep it like yeah,
- 32:12Speaker 9: but like all joic, that was when you came in,
- 32:15Speaker 9: like Jeff getting tested it like when you came in
- 32:17Speaker 9: the league.
- 32:18Speaker 2: Like man, it was all head. Oh and you had
- 32:20Speaker 2: to work your way up.
- 32:22Speaker 4: Like think about it, Jeff when it came out of
- 32:24Speaker 4: college averaging twenty and he could just go somewherehere they
- 32:27Speaker 4: be like, hey, man, get you a bucket.
- 32:28Speaker 2: Man what oh he would have been able to get
- 32:31Speaker 2: like twenty five thirty.
- 32:32Speaker 4: Especially he knew how to get fouled like the league
- 32:36Speaker 4: now like back in the days, Man, you try to
- 32:37Speaker 4: get foul, they'll be like, man.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Do like that, yeah, get up now, that's crazy when
- 32:42Speaker 2: you was a rookie. To you were a rookie and
- 32:44Speaker 2: gett no costs now, like the dudes come in, let
- 32:46Speaker 2: me get casts.
- 32:47Speaker 4: That's crazy.
- 32:48Speaker 2: He cold.
- 32:49Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know how cold he was. He
- 32:54Speaker 4: got a game, so so yeah, that was my roster
- 32:57Speaker 4: and like man, old head would like tell you different stuff.
- 33:00Speaker 4: Shane Benny taught me how to like manage my money. Uh.
- 33:03Speaker 4: Then I got traded from there with the Memphis. I
- 33:06Speaker 4: got traded in Memphis. That's when I had z Bow.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Yeah. They was like z Bo was like, that's like
- 33:12Speaker 2: my guy.
- 33:13Speaker 4: Like those guys like taught me how to like be tough,
- 33:15Speaker 4: like fight through stuff, like push through stuff.
- 33:18Speaker 2: That was getting made it to the playoffs and we lost.
- 33:20Speaker 2: Shout to Mike Conley.
- 33:21Speaker 4: Yeah MC man, y'all, so.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Y'all to what I tell you before he came. They
- 33:27Speaker 1: the two nicest dudes I ever met in my life.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Bron They MC was my guy.
- 33:32Speaker 4: Man.
- 33:32Speaker 2: He a good dude.
- 33:34Speaker 4: Every time I see his dad, his dad, I was like, man,
- 33:37Speaker 4: you know I saw you in college.
- 33:38Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, man, you guys all made it.
- 33:41Speaker 2: That's nicest people in the world. Bro.
- 33:44Speaker 3: The he was on that that Memphis was the fire.
- 33:48Speaker 4: Yeah. We was good, man, We was good. But we
- 33:51Speaker 4: remember that was when I knew, like it's bigger than
- 33:53Speaker 4: like you got to figure out what role you gotta play.
- 33:55Speaker 4: So like, I ain't playing the playoffs, but they wanted
- 33:59Speaker 4: me to be Tony Parker, so I.
- 34:01Speaker 2: Had to scout team. So I had to be Tony Parker.
- 34:04Speaker 4: It was like, Yo, it's just do that fast though,
- 34:06Speaker 4: and that's what like I was coming off like you
- 34:08Speaker 4: remember tps to pass it.
- 34:10Speaker 2: And go all the way around.
- 34:12Speaker 4: Yeah, like, and so I had to be Tony Parker
- 34:14Speaker 4: and so z Bo they had made a decision at
- 34:18Speaker 4: the end. So when I got traded over there, I
- 34:21Speaker 4: kind of knew, like, yo, this ain't my color, so
- 34:24Speaker 4: like you know how I fit in whatever the case is.
- 34:27Speaker 4: And so we're getting ready for the playoffs and uh lot,
- 34:29Speaker 4: don't tell me Linel Hollins. He tells me like, yo,
- 34:32Speaker 4: it's you're gonna You're gonna come up to you know,
- 34:34Speaker 4: you ain't gonna play this serious. And I'm like, all right,
- 34:36Speaker 4: bet cool, Like I'm not tripping, I won't expected to play.
- 34:39Speaker 4: And so then that's what z Bo. That's why I knew,
- 34:40Speaker 4: Like z Bo just had this weird way of like
- 34:42Speaker 4: talking to you. So he pull you, Hey, little bro,
- 34:44Speaker 4: come in, little bro, come in.
- 34:46Speaker 2: That's him.
- 34:47Speaker 4: So he put his all around in like, hey, look, bro,
- 34:49Speaker 4: you're gonna help us win this series. And I'm like,
- 34:51Speaker 4: I don't know how we just heard coaches. He said,
- 34:54Speaker 4: I won't gonna play. He said, nah, a little problem
- 34:56Speaker 4: telling you you gon'na help us win this series. And
- 34:58Speaker 4: so that's what lott them tell me, Like, Yo, you're
- 34:59Speaker 4: gonna play like TP the rest of the history. And
- 35:03Speaker 4: then once we won.
- 35:04Speaker 2: The series, that's crazy.
- 35:05Speaker 4: That's when Zebo came to me. It was like, see
- 35:08Speaker 4: what I tell you a little bro, Like, if you
- 35:10Speaker 4: ain't played like that, we would have never got like
- 35:12Speaker 4: a visual with TP kind of play left.
- 35:15Speaker 2: That's hard and that's crazy. That's a testament like what
- 35:17Speaker 2: it takes a winning NBA.
- 35:18Speaker 1: Like everybody can be talking, everybody could be cold, but
- 35:21Speaker 1: just having somebody your team who can mock somebody else
- 35:24Speaker 1: makes your game preparation totally different.
- 35:26Speaker 2: They didn't have that for a mic at all.
- 35:28Speaker 5: Even more credit than you for taking on that road though, Bro,
- 35:31Speaker 5: a lot of niggas ain't equipped for that.
- 35:33Speaker 2: Egos checks.
- 35:35Speaker 3: So that's some love to you, for real.
- 35:37Speaker 4: There's a lot of dudes thoughn't met you. I mean,
- 35:39Speaker 4: we all got egos. Nobody said no, you.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Want to play, Bro, but I'm saying you, I'm talking
- 35:44Speaker 3: about your sacrifice.
- 35:45Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the biggest thing. A lot It's been
- 35:48Speaker 4: a lot of z BO pulling me to the side
- 35:49Speaker 4: and telling me like, yeah, it probably took you along
- 35:51Speaker 4: with yeah. Like like for me, I was like and like,
- 35:55Speaker 4: like I said, I go back to Wake like I
- 35:57Speaker 4: knew playing Wake with all these town the dudes like y'all,
- 36:01Speaker 4: I can't come in and be like, oh no, this
- 36:03Speaker 4: is how I'm gonna do it. Nah, I'm about to be like,
- 36:05Speaker 4: all right, what's needed, you know for the game of night.
- 36:08Speaker 4: Like if it's like I said that joking around the
- 36:10Speaker 4: Carolina game, score four point, he got thirty four, we won,
- 36:14Speaker 4: I'm cool, like yeah, like that's what matters because I
- 36:18Speaker 4: know it's gonna be a game where Jay might be
- 36:20Speaker 4: struggling and then I got to step up like it
- 36:23Speaker 4: is what it like, you know what I mean, That's
- 36:24Speaker 4: what that's what team is all about. Like so that's
- 36:28Speaker 4: when he told me that. I was like, yo, cold,
- 36:30Speaker 4: But it did mean a lot coming from ze Bo
- 36:32Speaker 4: because ze Bo z Bo, you know.
- 36:35Speaker 1: Or any good word I guess at heart because when
- 36:37Speaker 1: as fuck fact, man, if we know you said the record,
- 36:41Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, teams play the NBA. Now we
- 36:43Speaker 1: gotta ask you some tough questions. Top five cities you
- 36:45Speaker 1: played in no particular order, Like, yeah, Phoenix.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Now you said that Phoenix, Phoenixes City.
- 36:54Speaker 4: I was twenty four years old.
- 36:56Speaker 2: Phoenix was.
- 36:59Speaker 3: You know whatiggas a? I wasnteen.
- 37:07Speaker 6: I was a motherfucking back nineteen nigga.
- 37:11Speaker 2: That was when I was twenty five back yere, I
- 37:18Speaker 2: was Phoenix. Uh dang, you know why I rock with Detroit?
- 37:24Speaker 4: Man, I knew he was about to say that. I
- 37:25Speaker 4: feel like that's where you knew it too. You was crazy.
- 37:29Speaker 4: That was that was like the first time like I
- 37:32Speaker 4: got a chance.
- 37:32Speaker 2: To like hoop.
- 37:33Speaker 4: They took care of you to like one thing about Detroit,
- 37:37Speaker 4: like if you can hoop like my game may you
- 37:40Speaker 4: asked Jay? Like my game ain't like I'm doing a
- 37:43Speaker 4: lot of like zig zagg and like I'm getting them
- 37:45Speaker 4: like I'm not like in certain cities like that might
- 37:49Speaker 4: not be Like Jay's game was perfect for Atlanta, like
- 37:52Speaker 4: they turning up he dunking on cats like that's but
- 37:55Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, like even steps game
- 37:57Speaker 4: steps game perfect and San Francis Like you know what
- 38:00Speaker 4: I mean, Like that's the demographic and so for me,
- 38:04Speaker 4: like my game was perfect for like Detroit, they respected it,
- 38:09Speaker 4: you know what I mean? I was gonna give them,
- 38:10Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I was gonna play hard
- 38:12Speaker 4: every game and all that different type of stuff. So
- 38:14Speaker 4: but that was the first opportunity I got a chance
- 38:16Speaker 4: to hoop.
- 38:17Speaker 2: Like before then, like you, j J liked you on
- 38:20Speaker 2: this team. Now yeah, man, I'm just trying to find
- 38:24Speaker 2: my way. It's still still well. I was. I was undrafted,
- 38:28Speaker 2: so I knew like my way was gonna be.
- 38:31Speaker 4: Like a different path. It wasn't gonna be like dang man,
- 38:35Speaker 4: these people invested in me, nah, like, and then each team,
- 38:39Speaker 4: like I tried to take a different little perspective. So
- 38:41Speaker 4: like when I was in Orlando with Jamia Nelson, I
- 38:44Speaker 4: was like, yo, Jamir at the time one of the
- 38:47Speaker 4: best point guards cold, So I was like, man, if
- 38:50Speaker 4: I play against him, I gotta get some confidence. When
- 38:53Speaker 4: I was in Oklahoma City Russ, I'm like, yo, yeah,
- 38:56Speaker 4: Like Russ almost came to wait. Yeah, yep, Rush almost
- 39:01Speaker 4: came to wait. So the story behind that is Russ
- 39:04Speaker 4: was getting recruited by he wanted to stay home. He
- 39:07Speaker 4: was just waiting for UCLA, and so they had Jordan
- 39:10Speaker 4: Farmore was trying to make a decision if they were
- 39:12Speaker 4: Jordan Farmer was gonna stay and leave, and so he
- 39:15Speaker 4: had two offers, big time offers that was like Wake
- 39:18Speaker 4: Forest and and well UCLA had not offered yet, and
- 39:24Speaker 4: some other like local schools. But he had took a
- 39:26Speaker 4: gross spurt late and so he had came on a
- 39:29Speaker 4: visit and UH, coach Prossec call me and said, hey, man,
- 39:32Speaker 4: I had my court, my Green ninety three court.
- 39:35Speaker 2: I drove all the way down from UH.
- 39:37Speaker 4: I drove like forty five minutes when my mom stay
- 39:39Speaker 4: and UH with Winston is like forty five minutes. So
- 39:42Speaker 4: I drove up and Uh that's when Russ dunked on
- 39:44Speaker 4: Trent Strickler. Dangn something nasty. But then all of a
- 39:48Speaker 4: sudden he went back. Jordan Farmer left, he ended up,
- 39:50Speaker 4: but me and Russ been cool since then, like since
- 39:52Speaker 4: he was seventeenth. Yeah, so we would have had him, Jeff,
- 39:56Speaker 4: that would have been crazy. I wouldn't come. Yeah, that's
- 40:03Speaker 4: too man.
- 40:03Speaker 2: I still don't know how he got how we got
- 40:05Speaker 2: him out of the state. Oh my fault.
- 40:09Speaker 4: Phoenix Detroit. Damn.
- 40:13Speaker 2: Well, let's start looking at him. Phoenix Detroit.
- 40:15Speaker 4: Charlotte was you know, I mean, Charlotte's to put them
- 40:18Speaker 4: one Charlotte's Home.
- 40:19Speaker 2: I mean it's not in those particular order. Charlotte's Home. Uh, Phillis.
- 40:26Speaker 2: I rock with Philly too.
- 40:28Speaker 4: I rock with Philly because they like again, I got
- 40:30Speaker 4: a chance to just hope, like when you're just sitting
- 40:33Speaker 4: on the bench like like yo, I'm telling you like,
- 40:37Speaker 4: that's why I like No Jay, he lied like last
- 40:41Speaker 4: year was and I gotta say Denver because we want
- 40:43Speaker 4: to chick. But last year wanted easy, like you going
- 40:46Speaker 4: in a situation where you're like, man, you know I
- 40:47Speaker 4: just came up. Well no, no, no, it's d CEDD
- 40:51Speaker 4: and uh Denver, I got DC.
- 40:55Speaker 1: You got hell of wizards highlights, especially against the pacers
- 41:00Speaker 1: all yeah, So with them, I just uh, Indiana, it's
- 41:04Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
- 41:05Speaker 4: I don't know why I said.
- 41:07Speaker 2: We're on the top of every highlight of word.
- 41:08Speaker 4: It's not just no, it's not that. When he was here,
- 41:10Speaker 4: they was cooking.
- 41:11Speaker 2: I don't know why highlights to get Si Deana too.
- 41:14Speaker 4: He went to Blake days when he came here with
- 41:16Speaker 4: the forty four.
- 41:19Speaker 3: The weekest go ahead, the week is yo.
- 41:23Speaker 4: Hey, he tried to go. So he tried to come
- 41:25Speaker 4: to Wake and get forty, but it was like, no, man,
- 41:27Speaker 4: you gotta get a low number.
- 41:29Speaker 2: Somebody said, oh d yeah, we.
- 41:33Speaker 4: They was like we've got it, and we wouldn't give it.
- 41:36Speaker 3: You keep that motherfucker awaed weekend.
- 41:42Speaker 4: So yeah, but like Jay ain't lying, Like it's hard
- 41:44Speaker 4: man when you especially when you've been playing like I
- 41:46Speaker 4: have been playing like six or seven years, like a
- 41:49Speaker 4: consistently started.
- 41:50Speaker 2: Playing and so went up. Now I had to be like,
- 41:52Speaker 2: all right, what road do I take?
- 41:54Speaker 4: You been on the bench. But if it wasn't for
- 41:56Speaker 4: like you know, the team camaraderie, like been around the
- 42:00Speaker 4: eyes and we just like enjoyed each other, it would
- 42:02Speaker 4: have been a situation. I'm like, man, I would have
- 42:04Speaker 4: been on like yeah, you know.
- 42:06Speaker 2: What I'm saying. So you start you start seeing it
- 42:09Speaker 2: like yeah, I'm damning her.
- 42:11Speaker 4: Cool off.
- 42:11Speaker 2: Some damning are.
- 42:12Speaker 1: Done like I was done when you get to that year,
- 42:15Speaker 1: like you year fourteen now, so you probably having a
- 42:18Speaker 1: good time.
- 42:19Speaker 4: Though no, I know, I enjoyed it because it's helping
- 42:22Speaker 4: the guys out. But I really had to talk to
- 42:24Speaker 4: my wife like I'm like I want to stay home.
- 42:27Speaker 4: But it was a situation where like my wife's like, yo,
- 42:30Speaker 4: it's home, like you, Charlotte, It's not like they asked
- 42:32Speaker 4: you to go to Houston, like you know what I mean.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Like, and then you got a good relationship obviously with
- 42:37Speaker 1: the front office. So it's gonna be an easy way
- 42:40Speaker 1: to Yeah, if he wants to keep doing with the NBA.
- 42:43Speaker 2: That's the hell.
- 42:44Speaker 3: That's a hell of a job. Though, you got brother.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Your team. We love to Charlotte Hornets.
- 42:50Speaker 3: He got a sunset park.
- 43:01Speaker 2: He bullshit.
- 43:02Speaker 4: They yeah, they straight up.
- 43:13Speaker 6: No cap.
- 43:19Speaker 5: A tough assignment, but they uh, bro show you want
- 43:29Speaker 5: to stay home your hands one.
- 43:37Speaker 2: Man, tough off good dudes, man, they really are man.
- 43:44Speaker 4: But think about this though, like we all came in,
- 43:47Speaker 4: like me and Jacob Lee, like it was like a
- 43:50Speaker 4: pecking on. You started down here. You had to work
- 43:52Speaker 4: your way up.
- 43:54Speaker 2: I think about it.
- 43:54Speaker 4: If you keep drafting dudes as nineteen, it's hard, man,
- 43:58Speaker 4: thinking about it, it's hard. So you got the blind
- 44:00Speaker 4: leading the blind. You know, I don't know y'all giving
- 44:02Speaker 4: me this like mellow my dog. Like when we won
- 44:06Speaker 4: the championship, he was the first one texting, like and
- 44:09Speaker 4: then when he got his money, like I texted him
- 44:10Speaker 4: like that's my god. He wrote, those guys remember scary
- 44:13Speaker 4: man like, but they kind of get it. Yeah, you
- 44:19Speaker 4: can tell they get it. Yeah they Brandon Miller may
- 44:22Speaker 4: he got game, I believe. So they got talented guys.
- 44:26Speaker 4: But you like, how you gonna know where to go
- 44:29Speaker 4: if you ain't never been, like, nobody's there to tell
- 44:31Speaker 4: you where to go. So like we had I had
- 44:34Speaker 4: all his many they.
- 44:37Speaker 5: So we talked about this a couple of poles ago. Bro,
- 44:39Speaker 5: I'm telling you, like, that's a lost art in the league.
- 44:42Speaker 3: Now, o G. Somebody who's season to come help the
- 44:45Speaker 3: young guys at least show him the little stuff that
- 44:47Speaker 3: you need.
- 44:47Speaker 4: You're not helping them out, and then you get mad
- 44:50Speaker 4: with him, and then when you're done with him, you
- 44:51Speaker 4: just like wash your hands with him and you're done
- 44:53Speaker 4: with him.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Now they needed you. It's like how we was a
- 44:56Speaker 2: way for us. We needed you.
- 44:58Speaker 1: If I didn't go to when I went to wait
- 44:59Speaker 1: for us, if you wasn't like trying to like if
- 45:01Speaker 1: you was like fuck you kept like trying to fuck
- 45:03Speaker 1: with me, I wasn't trying Like if you didn't do that,
- 45:06Speaker 1: I've been a wild boy because I was already quiet
- 45:09Speaker 1: into myself.
- 45:10Speaker 2: But like I wouldn't.
- 45:12Speaker 1: I wouldn't a workout dude, and I would go to
- 45:14Speaker 1: the gym with Geary because Gary was a workout dude,
- 45:16Speaker 1: and you would be in there. But you my competition.
- 45:18Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, ship, like he in here shooting
- 45:21Speaker 1: thousands of shots, got the music blasting, So I'm like,
- 45:24Speaker 1: I gotta do that ship because I'm ever play I
- 45:28Speaker 1: gotta play with. And then once he started telling me
- 45:30Speaker 1: he was the first one, like I took it wrong,
- 45:32Speaker 1: so y'all know me, I'm I'm my asshole.
- 45:35Speaker 2: He was like, Yo, I'm gonna be CP. You gonna
- 45:37Speaker 2: be Jay Gray. I looked at that nigga like he look, nigga,
- 45:40Speaker 2: you got me fucked up.
- 45:46Speaker 4: But you know what's funny though, all jose aside like
- 45:49Speaker 4: and then it flipped like I got hurt and Jeff
- 45:52Speaker 4: became because I honestly don't look people with no disrespect
- 45:56Speaker 4: talent wise. I don't think it's been a talent more
- 46:00Speaker 4: talented dude has ever walked into Wait. I'm just keep
- 46:03Speaker 4: it a being somebody who can jump, shoot, drive past
- 46:08Speaker 4: like he could do it all. Now, Chris, I love him,
- 46:11Speaker 4: you know what I mean? He wasn't this tall like
- 46:12Speaker 4: you know what I mean, he not dunking or you're
- 46:14Speaker 4: not doing none of that. He knew how to run
- 46:15Speaker 4: a team. Chris. Y'all people forget Chris is fast.
- 46:18Speaker 3: He forget the.
- 46:20Speaker 4: Ultimate point guard like he was elite like Chris is.
- 46:23Speaker 4: We know Chris is up it, but talent wise walked
- 46:26Speaker 4: into wake far as far as at the point guard
- 46:28Speaker 4: position is not nobody better. So for me it flipped
- 46:31Speaker 4: like because I got hurt and Jeff was cooking, so
- 46:35Speaker 4: he on magazine he doing all that, so it flipped.
- 46:38Speaker 4: He became Chris. Why I started telling him use some i'
- 46:40Speaker 4: never tell him this. I said, look, no offense to
- 46:42Speaker 4: this guy, love him. I was like, I ain't about
- 46:44Speaker 4: be no to Ron Downy tcause you know the rule behind.
- 46:52Speaker 4: You know what happened with TV so torn Downey. It
- 46:55Speaker 4: just came off a year where he was hooping, and
- 46:57Speaker 4: I love TD like this is my guy. But he
- 47:00Speaker 4: came out a year he was hooping, and uh, he
- 47:03Speaker 4: got like Mono or something like that, and we got.
- 47:05Speaker 3: Mono the hose. That's what happened.
- 47:08Speaker 6: By that mono for something like that, it's putting on
- 47:14Speaker 6: your figure. That nigga about homes out there and filth.
- 47:27Speaker 2: Wait, go to that decap what's going little? Excuse me?
- 47:31Speaker 4: We see girls like walking without they have mud on
- 47:36Speaker 4: their toes.
- 47:38Speaker 3: Issue hit something, no shoes on?
- 47:44Speaker 6: We get got him a barefoot.
- 47:49Speaker 2: Was cold.
- 47:50Speaker 6: I was.
- 47:55Speaker 2: Here. I was walking over stay for show. I'm like,
- 47:59Speaker 2: you just can't run. Oh.
- 48:00Speaker 4: Me and Jim went to State. I said, you ain't
- 48:03Speaker 4: nobody if my cousin with the State. So she's a
- 48:06Speaker 4: call and be like, yo, Jeff, that was over here, y'all,
- 48:08Speaker 4: amie ski.
- 48:09Speaker 1: The reason I went over there, I was like, man,
- 48:11Speaker 1: I don't know how to do this that way for it's.
- 48:13Speaker 4: Like it's a black school right there was the way it's.
- 48:19Speaker 2: Like seven minutes.
- 48:22Speaker 1: Cutting down the schools are though for real, it was
- 48:26Speaker 1: if you was I went over there, I was like,
- 48:33Speaker 1: I gotta go to the room.
- 48:35Speaker 2: It was hanging on the door.
- 48:38Speaker 4: Yeah, like on some like there on the block or
- 48:40Speaker 4: something up to what boy man? Yeahs y'all good. That's
- 48:46Speaker 4: how it was for real. We went to the N
- 48:48Speaker 4: Club one night and we.
- 48:50Speaker 6: Was is sharing that so we said envibing.
- 48:55Speaker 4: We was and uh, they'd be like hey, because Jeff
- 48:58Speaker 4: always like to stay low and uh, it was like, hey,
- 49:01Speaker 4: shout out to Jeff T Like.
- 49:05Speaker 2: What you mean.
- 49:06Speaker 4: It's like, trust, it's time to go. Let's get about
- 49:11Speaker 4: of facts. Bro was funny.
- 49:14Speaker 3: Bro Deal would have enough back home like high school.
- 49:16Speaker 2: So sigasiggas slide.
- 49:22Speaker 4: It's time to get about.
- 49:23Speaker 1: It all right, man, we actually your top five cities.
- 49:25Speaker 1: Now we got to push on the hook. Top five
- 49:26Speaker 1: players you play with? He plays killers?
- 49:30Speaker 2: Yeah, uh no order of course? Yo?
- 49:34Speaker 4: Man? He up there man for sure? Yok.
- 49:36Speaker 2: He just made the game just look so easy.
- 49:39Speaker 4: I played. It's crazy because I play with a lot
- 49:41Speaker 4: of guys. I didn't get a chance to play with
- 49:43Speaker 4: Joel and B but he was on the team. Hm,
- 49:47Speaker 4: So I don't know if I can count that. KTI
- 49:49Speaker 4: obviously is up there.
- 49:50Speaker 2: Uh Still who else who you think make the game
- 49:55Speaker 2: look easier? KD or yo? Yo?
- 49:58Speaker 4: And the reason why I say yo, it is because
- 50:02Speaker 4: like when you watching the game, like I ain't give
- 50:04Speaker 4: him his true respect that to I got there, like
- 50:07Speaker 4: you know how it is like when we was coming
- 50:09Speaker 4: out and he was coming up, like, man, I love
- 50:11Speaker 4: you yo.
- 50:12Speaker 2: Put him yeah yeah, make him go yeah, like y'all
- 50:15Speaker 2: beat him.
- 50:15Speaker 4: Remember that year y'all beat him like, and they always
- 50:18Speaker 4: talk about like how that was, Like they're like, yeah,
- 50:22Speaker 4: changing for him. So he was like, yo, when you
- 50:26Speaker 4: watching the game, you like, bro, he got sixteen rebounds
- 50:29Speaker 4: on the first hand, I don't know where this came from,
- 50:32Speaker 4: seventeen sixteen and eight in the first Like, I was
- 50:35Speaker 4: just sitting there watching, like, and he just he just
- 50:38Speaker 4: run down the court. And the thing about him is
- 50:40Speaker 4: he stayed at the same pace the whole game. So
- 50:42Speaker 4: it's like the totters in the hair. So it's like
- 50:44Speaker 4: we more like some guys are more athletic, but he
- 50:46Speaker 4: just keep going the same pace, same pace where he
- 50:49Speaker 4: can't stop it. You can't stop it. So he's him
- 50:53Speaker 4: kd uh dang, Jeff, it was man, Russ. Yeah, Russ
- 50:58Speaker 4: up there too for sure.
- 51:00Speaker 2: Animal Bro.
- 51:00Speaker 1: I don't know how many people be disrespecting him. I
- 51:02Speaker 1: hate it, Bro, he is an animal.
- 51:05Speaker 2: I was there though when in this shout out to
- 51:07Speaker 2: my guy man Russ.
- 51:08Speaker 4: I love Russ. That's like my brother. So I was
- 51:10Speaker 4: at the I was playing for Oklahoma City and I
- 51:13Speaker 4: told Russ. I was like, Russ, Yo, Jeff got game, man,
- 51:16Speaker 4: because I know when he's locked in. Jeff was could
- 51:19Speaker 4: have been easily one of the best point guards. When
- 51:22Speaker 4: he would be like locked in, like it was scary.
- 51:25Speaker 4: So he was sitting there and I seen Jeff like,
- 51:28Speaker 4: I was like, saw him on the other end. I
- 51:30Speaker 4: don't know if you remember this. We played against y'all
- 51:31Speaker 4: in Atlanta, and Jeff was like, he just did like this.
- 51:35Speaker 4: Usually we talked, he did like this.
- 51:37Speaker 2: I said, Oh, he locked in.
- 51:38Speaker 4: So I told Russ. I was like, Yo, Russ, he
- 51:39Speaker 4: locked in. And that's when you got to still like it.
- 51:43Speaker 4: So I remember that battle. He was going back and forth.
- 51:45Speaker 4: But Russ is up there for sure because when he
- 51:48Speaker 4: was in his uh that that MVP little stretch and
- 51:52Speaker 4: triple double because I played with him in Washington, man,
- 51:54Speaker 4: he was and he was still.
- 51:55Speaker 2: Killing in that Nigga is hell.
- 51:58Speaker 4: Bro. I don't know why people be disrespect because he
- 52:00Speaker 4: played for Theakers.
- 52:01Speaker 2: Bro, That's what happens.
- 52:02Speaker 4: And the thing about Russ is he don't like he
- 52:05Speaker 4: don't he just be keep driving it, driving it, driving
- 52:09Speaker 4: the basketball. Yeah, like he just and you be like, yo, Russ,
- 52:12Speaker 4: like calm down, yeah, like and he don't get tired
- 52:16Speaker 4: like you be like yo, this dude, keep like eating
- 52:19Speaker 4: that halftime because I'll be good the first have.
- 52:22Speaker 1: But when I got the halftime, all right, I'm look
- 52:24Speaker 1: at my phone. Who going out tonight?
- 52:27Speaker 2: You see? That was my problem?
- 52:29Speaker 4: I half fifteen that half okay, Who's going out tonight?
- 52:32Speaker 4: Russ come back out like he took an energy drink
- 52:34Speaker 4: or something like.
- 52:34Speaker 2: What the hell is wrong with this nigga? Man, Like
- 52:36Speaker 2: calm the fuck down.
- 52:37Speaker 4: You know you used to go in all the time
- 52:39Speaker 4: that I used to be like, yo, he got something
- 52:40Speaker 4: person with a Reggie.
- 52:42Speaker 2: Oh, because you know, why go at Regie jection when
- 52:45Speaker 2: we play that wake.
- 52:46Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember he dumped okay, hedn't
- 52:49Speaker 1: he like drops up and he dunk and he bumped Mek.
- 52:52Speaker 1: He might have been a freshman. He like bumped me,
- 52:54Speaker 1: and I was like what the fuck? Like you know
- 52:56Speaker 1: what I mean, because I was like, nigga, this is
- 52:58Speaker 1: Tyre's Rice team.
- 53:00Speaker 4: Even you ain't even him, Like why the fun you
- 53:04Speaker 4: bumping me?
- 53:05Speaker 2: Like I was shiitty ever since I seen him, I'm
- 53:07Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna try.
- 53:09Speaker 4: You always known when he's trying to, Like that's how
- 53:12Speaker 4: Jeff was, like, you always knew when he was trying to,
- 53:14Speaker 4: like yeah. We played against Tony Douglas.
- 53:17Speaker 1: He'd be like, oh yeah, yeah, I was trying.
- 53:19Speaker 3: To Will too.
- 53:21Speaker 2: Yeah, Jarn Williams.
- 53:23Speaker 3: He used to go at his ass.
- 53:26Speaker 2: He was cold too. It was cold, bro, there's somebod
- 53:29Speaker 2: who may handles this. They're like, y'all left me Will.
- 53:31Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, we definitely definite respective, but definitely
- 53:34Speaker 1: him and John Wallas the only people I know can
- 53:36Speaker 1: cross over going full speed.
- 53:38Speaker 2: I used to be in practice, like, how the fuck
- 53:41Speaker 2: are you doing?
- 53:42Speaker 4: Like a nigga was niggasu be broo put you on
- 53:48Speaker 4: that though, Bro, you know what we used to play, Uh,
- 53:52Speaker 4: it's funny. We used to play saying like you know
- 53:54Speaker 4: they called the saying love football. So like uh, I
- 53:58Speaker 4: used to be like in the back. I was the receiver,
- 54:01Speaker 4: so I would be like running, changing directions, changing directions,
- 54:04Speaker 4: catching the ball. Yeah, so I'd be like, yo, hold
- 54:08Speaker 4: on man, Like I was like seven eight years old,
- 54:10Speaker 4: so my mindset was yo. Like like I saw Reggie
- 54:14Speaker 4: buck Bush, he would change directions in football, like without
- 54:17Speaker 4: like changing, So I.
- 54:18Speaker 2: Was like, yo, this is crazy.
- 54:20Speaker 4: Shady Leshaan McCoy, Shady mcurt they would like change the direction.
- 54:24Speaker 4: So I'm like, yo, what if I can do this
- 54:27Speaker 4: with a basketball? So I just tried it and like.
- 54:31Speaker 2: Type of people.
- 54:34Speaker 1: Just growing back, like I'm not about to catch this.
- 54:37Speaker 1: I could wait to get on the other team.
- 54:38Speaker 4: That's the thing that like, this is what bothered me
- 54:40Speaker 4: is we played together like doing the game, but like
- 54:44Speaker 4: coach will always put.
- 54:44Speaker 2: On opposite side and practice.
- 54:47Speaker 4: And like when he did that.
- 54:49Speaker 2: If he scored, he knew.
- 54:53Speaker 4: If I scored, was gonna get the ball. Start playing
- 54:56Speaker 4: with the one used to get mad. This is not
- 54:59Speaker 4: gonna just be on one on one game, Like y'all
- 55:02Speaker 4: got to share the ball.
- 55:03Speaker 2: I'm we're going at it, like do you remember the
- 55:06Speaker 2: day with you know?
- 55:07Speaker 1: Custs me up. He went through the whole team. He
- 55:10Speaker 1: told everybody what they do good and he got to
- 55:12Speaker 1: me at the end. When was this We was like
- 55:14Speaker 1: we was winning.
- 55:15Speaker 2: We was on the roll. He was like, Chris Paul
- 55:17Speaker 2: was running this team. I think your foot might have
- 55:18Speaker 2: been broke, you still would have been hurt.
- 55:20Speaker 10: He was like, well, Chris Paul was running this team,
- 55:22Speaker 10: we would be the best team ever.
- 55:24Speaker 2: I looked at you.
- 55:25Speaker 1: I was so shitty, like I was like I could
- 55:27Speaker 1: have punched him. I was like, I fucking hate this.
- 55:30Speaker 2: He's like, and you're on the second team.
- 55:32Speaker 4: I wouldn't practice. Yeah, he was killing l D. I
- 55:37Speaker 4: was to like, LD you got him. He was kill.
- 55:42Speaker 2: I was killing this. Nick.
- 55:44Speaker 4: I know you was heart because I remember you was
- 55:45Speaker 4: on the side. He was like, chill j He's gonna
- 55:47Speaker 4: be all right you. He was good on worded about him,
- 55:50Speaker 4: was like, fuck this. Yeah, he was killing I was trying.
- 55:52Speaker 4: I'm telling you when he wanted to, like y'all seen
- 55:55Speaker 4: it in high school, bro, when he wanted to, like y'all,
- 55:58Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna go get a bucket every time like.
- 56:02Speaker 2: He did.
- 56:03Speaker 4: You was like, yo, it was on some burger king
- 56:05Speaker 4: type like having your weight from the three point line,
- 56:08Speaker 4: finish it, dunk it like yo. I was like, I'm like, yo,
- 56:12Speaker 4: this like, I mean he can get five. So we
- 56:16Speaker 4: was I remember that. I do remember that, But I
- 56:19Speaker 4: also remember when.
- 56:23Speaker 2: Yo. I remember that day that Joe was crazy.
- 56:26Speaker 4: But I mean you remember when.
- 56:27Speaker 1: I know because it was always the piece bager. He's
- 56:31Speaker 1: a good We had some rebels on our team. You
- 56:34Speaker 1: remember what I told everybody. I was like, yo, it's
- 56:35Speaker 1: one girl. Nobody could talk to him. This I think
- 56:42Speaker 1: he's gonna bring that up.
- 56:46Speaker 2: I was like, girl, we ain't dropping. So it was
- 56:52Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah yeah, it's like okay, everybody we got that.
- 56:55Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So what.
- 57:00Speaker 1: He decided to Like, what was he thinking? Oh no,
- 57:02Speaker 1: he decided to try me. I guess I was sure
- 57:04Speaker 1: he believed me. I was like, I pulled up on him.
- 57:08Speaker 1: I got active, called me.
- 57:10Speaker 2: Said j t Yo, what the heck? Man? What you doing?
- 57:13Speaker 1: Man said he tried me. I was like, he talked
- 57:17Speaker 1: to I said he can't talk to damn because Jeff.
- 57:20Speaker 2: Battle to hit me. Coach Be hit me. It was like,
- 57:23Speaker 2: go get go get Jeff. Y'all wonder why we don't
- 57:26Speaker 2: we got all this talent and we can't win.
- 57:28Speaker 4: No games because Coach Be used to always hit me up.
- 57:31Speaker 4: And I said, I'm like, all right, let me let
- 57:34Speaker 4: me call him. So I called him. He was like,
- 57:36Speaker 4: y'all they said he had him him jump on the wall.
- 57:44Speaker 2: Yeah, Yo had up on the wall.
- 57:48Speaker 4: But it's respect. The thing that blew me was like yep, pause,
- 57:51Speaker 4: Like you can't say respect, Yo, he had him.
- 57:55Speaker 2: But they was like, yo, he already told me to yo,
- 57:58Speaker 2: he already told you.
- 57:59Speaker 6: That was the like I used to be like, we're confidence.
- 58:07Speaker 4: First of the foremost, the only reason that person was
- 58:10Speaker 4: there because yeah, I was tender for that Reason's keep
- 58:13Speaker 4: it a bean, Let's keep it the bed. He told me.
- 58:18Speaker 4: We had listen. The Lord utilizes so many people in
- 58:22Speaker 4: so many different ways.
- 58:23Speaker 6: Freak, you gotta.
- 58:28Speaker 2: Let's this is the season. But keep it a bean,
- 58:35Speaker 2: like my dog told me.
- 58:36Speaker 4: He was like, let he did, Like that's really I mean,
- 58:39Speaker 4: like get mad.
- 58:40Speaker 2: You know you can't get and then leave. It's freaking.
- 58:44Speaker 4: And then this is the thing. She used to do
- 58:47Speaker 4: a little certain things to try to trigger Jay, And
- 58:49Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't need a trip, Like just do
- 58:51Speaker 4: certain things about here.
- 58:53Speaker 2: Call me be like let's let's go to the gym.
- 58:54Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't need a trip.
- 58:56Speaker 2: Even after that incident, he was like, damn was yeah
- 59:03Speaker 2: right there with me on the show. She walked with me.
- 59:09Speaker 2: He like, yeah, yeah, hold on, I know you're doing that.
- 59:17Speaker 2: That's that door. Let me hot you open that door.
- 59:23Speaker 2: It was, oh, you know.
- 59:27Speaker 6: What I'm saying, don't kill. How you find out?
- 59:29Speaker 2: Talk to how I found out?
- 59:31Speaker 3: How you find out killer?
- 59:32Speaker 2: Remember how exactly I found that out? To the blackberries.
- 59:36Speaker 6: It might have been liked love and.
- 59:41Speaker 4: Facebook beef is crazy, which is crazy to me because
- 59:43Speaker 4: now you got people's grandmas and.
- 59:45Speaker 2: Stuff Facebook you but now it's.
- 59:49Speaker 3: Like grandma's and city girls too, bro.
- 59:55Speaker 2: Man.
- 59:56Speaker 4: And then remember that year, yo, this was funny. Our
- 59:58Speaker 4: first day backed my junior year. We're playing pick up,
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: going back and forth and this is when that person
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: was hooping. Yeah, the person was hooping, man.
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: Yo. He was like, so after.
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: We had their recruiting class, then for Rook and the
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: recruiting class come in. So now we got for roop
- 1:00:20Speaker 4: Tony Woods, ty Walker. Who else was in that class? Yeah,
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: it might have been it might have been them three.
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: So they come in and now we got like an
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: NBA team for real because we got seven footas on
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: seven foots like them boys.
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: Is huge.
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: Short pause. So we're sitting there and we're playing and
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: stepping out hitting.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: Three because was there.
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: He said, I'll never forget because you was cooking CEP
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: and he was like, let's start doing this pick and
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: roll ship.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: Because I was on C team.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was like, and ty started hooping, I'll
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: never forget, and how he was like he one.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: Baby Tyson Chandler. Yeah, that nigga t would sit.
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: That nigga just read up to him. Whoa what because
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: the nigga say he was baby Tyson Chandler.
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: The team was nuts.
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love he was the only saying Now
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: we all had our awn little crazy.
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: After after that, I didn't get to see that wal Bro.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: We never seen it. He was he supposed to go
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: to the NBA. Yeah he was.
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: He was.
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: He was as tall as hell. You deserved our career
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: for the you had to deal with it now.
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: But you know what they don't understand, Like I was
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: with him my guys.
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was the same one.
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: Like I mean, it was my dudes, like, man, we
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: was crazy, I'm.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: Thirty for thirty up, come out of retirement.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: We needed thirty Philip like phil Yeah, he was like
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: just like that's why they just like like he was
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: such a like now y'all come on, nah and did
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: He'll make you like come together.
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: Just did stuff together.
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: Because I'm over there, like you know, I gotta fucked
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: up mind. I'm over there. When you hit him, like.
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: Ni, he ran downstairs. I'm like so remember we was
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: like yo, that's it. We go downstairs.
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: We don't find him.
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: All of a sudden everybody phone blowing up, were like, yoh, like,
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: who calls us coach battle? Like I said, oh, yeah,
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: it's coach b It's.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: What are you doing.
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: I'm like, man, what you mean? Like we was playing
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: got a little whatever scuffle. He was like, Tya's mother
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: just called me. It's saying y'all was laughing at him
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: getting punched in the face.
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I mean it was me. What we
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: all was like, oh, like so we was was like, yo,
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: Tony jacked up, bro, you do that? Like Tony, why
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: did you do that? Tony was like, Tony didn't give
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: the explanation.
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: So we went downstairs. Whatever the case is. We couldn't
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: find time after that. Man, I love time. Man shout out,
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: that's my guy. But he just yeah, he could have been. Yeah,
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: he really should have been. And he not telling you.
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: The truth was it was another time we was hooping,
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: playing five on five and CP again. We love you, bro,
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: But me and Jeff when he used to come, we
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: ain't wanted to play on his team. We was like, man, Jeff,
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: we're on the same team. And so Chris used to
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: come back all the time and bring uh, bring Jay
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: Greg shout out to Jay Gray. He coaching Western Carolina.
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: Now that's my guy, Eric Williams bringing back Eric Williams,
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: Like he used to bring back all these guys and
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: we used to be like, yo, y'all would not have
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: to beat us, Like you don't know how much talent
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: we got, Like nah, that's not y'all would have. Whatever
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: the case is. So this is one's particular day. Jeff like,
- 1:03:40Speaker 4: hey man, stop calling them picking rolls. Try to get
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: by me, just one on one. And he like and
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: Jeff when he wanted to like defend all, he like
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: getting over screens.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: He's like, hey man, I'm telling you I do this.
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: And then he came back. You know, Jeff was the
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: king of one on one. This is what I do.
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: Bang like I'm talking about what's hooping and then that's
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: when some other stuff.
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: I'll tell you what my boy, No, I hit a
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: reverse layup. Ye was like that.
- 1:04:11Speaker 10: Ship nasty, that's fucking nasty. He was like, shot up, nigga,
- 1:04:15Speaker 10: you ain't do it, like what start going at it?
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: Yeah, was still hooping or still we were still hooping,
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: but like kind of going back. He started chasing that
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: nigga around the jail like running after not running, but
- 1:04:33Speaker 4: he just was talking and then he was like y'all yeah,
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: he was just like was like it took a minute
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: for James because he really was off for a minute.
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: Like we couldn't get him to come around. I'm like,
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: see peop about to go hoop. He was like, no, there,
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: it's up.
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: He would have caught that nigga.
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: I think like the first couple of years to lead, like, yeah,
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: he would mess with he was because Chris made here
- 1:04:58Speaker 4: a good dude. But like he'll try to hit you
- 1:05:00Speaker 4: like some little trigger to like get you mad.
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: Yeah, he like and he go like low.
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: He tried to go low, like like if he know
- 1:05:06Speaker 4: you like lost your dead, like I lost your dog
- 1:05:10Speaker 4: when you was like four years old something like that.
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: He'll say something about that.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: You'd be like, y'all want to kick your dog like
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: something like that.
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: Or like I remember he was playing against I was
- 1:05:19Speaker 4: wide open in the corner one time I was we
- 1:05:22Speaker 4: was playing he was in Phoenix and so he was
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: guarding me in the corner and Brad Joel and he
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: stood there like to like force him kick it, and
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: then he tried to play my games with Brad was
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: like see you. You gotta play the right way.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: You want to be playing the right way.
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: He ride open in the corner.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: You got throwing the ball like.
- 1:05:38Speaker 6: Like this stuff like that.
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: You see, like why would you go that low? But
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: I know, see so I don't be tripping. I'd be like,
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: all right, see like it is, I wouldn't do with that.
- 1:05:46Speaker 4: I like, yeah, Jeff, Jeff be like, no, I don't
- 1:05:49Speaker 4: play that game. I be like, because you can go
- 1:05:52Speaker 4: as lowd as you onto, I don't care.
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: Like I know I am yeah, I'm that. I'm that.
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: I'm not.
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: And what's the problem because this is when I knew
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: you was gonna go to the NBA, like because.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: Like I knew our team was the NBA. But I
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: remember we had it was Pargo, Jared Jack, Rudy g
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: k D. And I think they might have had like
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: Brian McKnight or somebody. Yeah.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: So we're playing on five on five and this is
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: when we like we like, yeah, get ready. So Rudy
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: gave him they chilling and is going at Jared Jack
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: and c P. I'm like ship, I said, I said.
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Pargo, start guard me because see start your
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: name was like cook. You't even like that after the game,
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: Park was like, now this motherfucker is gonna be an NBA.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: Yeah, we're hoping like this is gonna be in the NBA.
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: Man.
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: That's when I knew. Like I was like, yo, we
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: we're gonna be called Yeah. I was like And then
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: two days later I broke my foot.
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: I remember I was at the movies. They called me,
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: was like come home. I'm like where then, I'm at
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: the movie. You need to come and get serious about basketball.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: I'm like, what it's like, it's broken his foot. I
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: ain't gonna lot my heart drop because I we had
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: just started.
- 1:07:08Speaker 4: We started working out. Yeah, and I'm like, oh because
- 1:07:11Speaker 4: the middle of his well, Jeff like the first ten games.
- 1:07:15Speaker 4: But we knew it was gonna change. So then after that,
- 1:07:18Speaker 4: Jeff went on this tear the whole we play started
- 1:07:21Speaker 4: to gethering freshman.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: Yeah, so we started rolling.
- 1:07:24Speaker 4: And then after that we started the year and they
- 1:07:26Speaker 4: had us top twenty five. Yeah, like starting point guard
- 1:07:30Speaker 4: is two guard jet like, so we had already played.
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: We was like, oh man, we're just about to be hooping.
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: And you guys think he put me in a mind
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: to just like go get buckets. So when Nates called
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: me like, you about to be the point guard? Mind
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: you just got three make dollars. All Americans like we
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: got j J. I'm a bucket getter. I'm like, hell no,
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: Like you'all think I'm about to be passing this, but
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: I told yeah, in trouble somewhere there, I wasn't, but
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: I told what I told you.
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: I was like, man, don't be don't be me, be
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: you man.
- 1:08:02Speaker 4: When I say we were playing at b YU, this
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: is one I was like, Yo, Jeff is the real deal.
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: So we go, we kill in Anaho and then we
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: beat the crap out of Indiana? Are you he took
- 1:08:16Speaker 4: that person? He beat beat the crap out of.
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: So now we're like eleven challenge yeah, ac channel yeap.
- 1:08:22Speaker 4: Then we won some more games and then we went
- 1:08:24Speaker 4: out to b YU and that's what I was like, Yo,
- 1:08:26Speaker 4: this is the real test. And it was Legiti white
- 1:08:28Speaker 4: out white people, but like legit white out. So we
- 1:08:33Speaker 4: sit there, bro, it was twenty three thousand.
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: Yo, all yelling, screaming, saying some wild stuff. Wow, warming up.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: I'm shout racism yeah because I use it run bro.
- 1:08:51Speaker 4: So we were in there and I'm like, we saw
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: Danny Ainge at the game like it was a lot
- 1:08:56Speaker 4: of scouts. Then of course all of a sudden like
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: oh yeah, Danny Age went to be yeah, I forgot
- 1:09:00Speaker 4: about Yeah. So we're sitting there, but there was some
- 1:09:02Speaker 4: other scouts there and we're like, okay, Man, jem put
- 1:09:05Speaker 4: on the show. Would you had thirty four that night?
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: Something like that, man put on a show?
- 1:09:12Speaker 4: Was I was going crazy? I was going now Jim
- 1:09:18Speaker 4: had twenty three?
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he was good. I just remember he made
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: James touch Earth. Yeah he hit a crossover nigga James
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: oh ship hit that three.
- 1:09:25Speaker 4: I said, because pack Because coach Kelsey came in and
- 1:09:29Speaker 4: were sitting around and he's like, yo, this guy plays
- 1:09:32Speaker 4: like Darren Wims.
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: We looked at each other. Let me get the fuck out.
- 1:09:37Speaker 4: What it was like, Man, stop Darren Wims.
- 1:09:39Speaker 3: Y'all didn't know nothing about him.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: No, not like that.
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: We played in the year before and he ain't do nothing.
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: He ain't doing nothing sophomore years. The sophomore he was
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: another one. He had like he had the Jeryman run
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: in college, Like he's another person. If he would have
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: probably came out like three or four years later, he
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: did probably had a different career.
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: He's top five white boys ever do it on the college.
- 1:09:58Speaker 4: I feel bad for because he just he's just in
- 1:10:00Speaker 4: a different era. Think about shooting threes now, yeah five
- 1:10:06Speaker 4: years ago, be like like one of the top shooters
- 1:10:10Speaker 4: and figure it out for him out Like the same
- 1:10:14Speaker 4: thing I said about Jo been like if you don
- 1:10:17Speaker 4: went to the team, like how they do guys now?
- 1:10:18Speaker 4: But man, just go get a bucket. Man, what but this.
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: Nigga just told you what he was doing at halftime.
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: That's because I had already figured out my role. Yeah,
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: that's what young boy. Like. They was like I was
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: came in out of score score score ye.
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: And then when I got to the NBA, they like, yeah,
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: you ain't gonna be doing that, Like you're about to
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: go to the corner and you're gonna pass this motherfucker
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: to Joe and you're gonna wait, see if you want
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: to pass it to you, and then you're gonna come
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: out and you know that messed up with your head,
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: Like yeah, I can score good as HM Like no,
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: the hell you can't.
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I could score it, Like, na, that's
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: a good thing you said before we got here.
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: Last question, what do you think the hardest adjustment they
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: try to make your game, like change for s C
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: A or for a B A.
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: You said change emotion. Not for me, It was the
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: NBA for you. I wash.
- 1:11:06Speaker 4: It was privately college for me because when I was
- 1:11:09Speaker 4: in when I went to the NBA, like I was
- 1:11:12Speaker 4: you know, I was on teams for a little bit
- 1:11:13Speaker 4: and then I would go, uh, once I got to
- 1:11:16Speaker 4: the league, like I kind of figured out the game
- 1:11:18Speaker 4: like it was pick and roll game, whatever the case is.
- 1:11:21Speaker 4: And then like dude asked for the ball, like I
- 1:11:23Speaker 4: throw him the ball, you know what I mean, Like
- 1:11:25Speaker 4: it wasn't no problem. I just needed to find the
- 1:11:27Speaker 4: right team. It kind of like fit you know how
- 1:11:30Speaker 4: I was gonna play, Like I wasn't really tripping. But
- 1:11:32Speaker 4: college was crazy because like they it wasn't even a
- 1:11:36Speaker 4: bad thing. It was just like I was just like
- 1:11:39Speaker 4: why did eye bushy tail?
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: Like what did you say? Coach?
- 1:11:41Speaker 4: Okay? Cool? And that's why I said I respected Jeff,
- 1:11:43Speaker 4: Like Jeff was like, no, this is this is how
- 1:11:45Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it. That's what I'm gonna get done.
- 1:11:47Speaker 4: And guess what, when you do it right and you
- 1:11:50Speaker 4: do it like he can guess what they do. They
- 1:11:51Speaker 4: be like that we win it. I don't care what
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: you say like that, that's that's the facts, and I'm
- 1:12:00Speaker 4: not saying like it for sure helped me, but like
- 1:12:03Speaker 4: it was just a situation.
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: For me when I was in college, like they would
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: be like I.
- 1:12:07Speaker 4: Was in high school. I was like, man, I shot
- 1:12:08Speaker 4: the ball like this, and it was like, nah, it's
- 1:12:10Speaker 4: just we're gonna do like whatever the case is. So
- 1:12:13Speaker 4: but when I got to the NBA, it was it
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: was cool. It was a cool, litt adjustment because I
- 1:12:17Speaker 4: had seen everything. I had been hurt twice, Like, I
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: didn't play with talented dudes.
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: So for me, it was like all right, man, like
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: no injury. I'm an see like on an art experience.
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: I don't play with great players, so I know how
- 1:12:28Speaker 4: to like play off of them or play you know
- 1:12:30Speaker 4: what I mean, play with.
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: Him like it was what it was.
- 1:12:32Speaker 4: So I like the adjustment in the NBA wasn't bad.
- 1:12:34Speaker 4: But I know for Jay it was. I remember it
- 1:12:37Speaker 4: was funny. We came in and saw me and G
- 1:12:39Speaker 4: drove down from Winston come see G play. I mean,
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: he's come to see JT player, And J was like, yo,
- 1:12:46Speaker 4: is gh Like I was like yeah, because they was
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: forcing him to play like you know what I mean,
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: like when we first came in the league, like you had.
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: To play like a true point guard, like.
- 1:12:57Speaker 4: Like everything was like and I was so proud of
- 1:13:00Speaker 4: him when he got his Uh I think it one
- 1:13:02Speaker 4: year it was your second year and you know what
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: I mean, Mike Bibby got hurt up and then that
- 1:13:06Speaker 4: was his coming out party and then that's when they said,
- 1:13:08Speaker 4: oh the next year he started like that was a
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: jet that was him and d Rose going back and
- 1:13:13Speaker 4: forth and uh that that was the time where I
- 1:13:16Speaker 4: was like, yeah, that's that's the jetf I know, like
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: he still had to like get everybody in, but it
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: has just been like all right, go then you know
- 1:13:24Speaker 4: you probably would have saw a different dude. But he
- 1:13:26Speaker 4: he did it the right way.
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: Man.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Look, I ain't joking around. I'm so proud of him.
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: No, I'm proud of you because you did it the
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: right way. Unbelievable, bro, Like.
- 1:13:34Speaker 5: You got a story bro fourteen years.
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: That's why I say, like, wait, they gotta they got
- 1:13:44Speaker 4: so like you don't get an opportunity like Kentucky, like
- 1:13:47Speaker 4: they get that stuff, Like I remember we played against him.
- 1:13:50Speaker 4: And I always tell John this, like if I would
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: have had my goons and we have played against that
- 1:13:55Speaker 4: Kentucky Kentucky because when we played good teams, Bro, all right,
- 1:14:01Speaker 4: well for Kentucky, but.
- 1:14:07Speaker 11: Hold on this Swiss his posture got hold on. They
- 1:14:17Speaker 11: was gonna kick yourys. It was gonna kick your ass
- 1:14:21Speaker 11: by yard, Bro. But they don't kick your ass.
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: When we played good teams, Bro, we always won.
- 1:14:26Speaker 4: We always want to play good team.
- 1:14:27Speaker 3: We had that brother, it's one of my favorite college
- 1:14:29Speaker 3: players ever.
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: Bro.
- 1:14:30Speaker 5: But that UK team Bro, I'm telling you, Bro, they
- 1:14:32Speaker 5: beat the sleeves off you.
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: We beat Carolina?
- 1:14:35Speaker 4: Did we beat Carolina?
- 1:14:37Speaker 6: They was the national champs Carolina.
- 1:14:40Speaker 8: He han' dup and then James that shout out to you.
- 1:14:44Speaker 4: No no, no, I'm just telling well keeping the team together,
- 1:14:47Speaker 4: No no, no, no.
- 1:14:49Speaker 6: Wall blood, yes, okay, who was gonna guard the markets?
- 1:14:55Speaker 6: We had five you know I feel about palls.
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: We had five seven footers.
- 1:15:00Speaker 5: Name was no good and then my guys like they
- 1:15:02Speaker 5: got puss in his face. He would he wouldn't work
- 1:15:05Speaker 5: a quarter.
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: Chase, That's my god.
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: The first chase.
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: The chase was good at college chase.
- 1:15:11Speaker 6: The reborn Shane Brown. Fuck him, y'all was toast.
- 1:15:16Speaker 5: I would have been a good game, all right, John
- 1:15:20Speaker 5: John Wall, I'm picking my dog. Yes, y'all lost the
- 1:15:25Speaker 5: fucking Cleveland good to get.
- 1:15:29Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to We've been having a good interview.
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: Hold on a little.
- 1:15:37Speaker 3: I lost my whole sam sclub. Check what you talking?
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: Leader?
- 1:15:41Speaker 4: Talk to me man, I was talking about.
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: The leader. He said, boys, Bro, when we get off
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: this show, other stories lead that.
- 1:15:51Speaker 5: Had been a good game. I ain't gonna say y'all
- 1:15:52Speaker 5: have dust them. I'm hating because just talking ship. But
- 1:15:55Speaker 5: now for that had been a good game. I wasn't
- 1:15:56Speaker 5: gonna smoke him.
- 1:15:57Speaker 4: No, no, we're not saying smoking. We would have went
- 1:16:00Speaker 4: so we played good against there we go. We struggled
- 1:16:03Speaker 4: when we used to play against like the Miamis.
- 1:16:05Speaker 5: You want to like trying to Patrick Patterson, what's my
- 1:16:09Speaker 5: nigga from Ja Lexington? Okay, okay, there's Miller six all the.
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: People Carolina had, Bro they went off the Pine Bro.
- 1:16:23Speaker 3: They had a whip shout out to Yeah, they had
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: a whib.
- 1:16:25Speaker 2: We beenished that year.
- 1:16:28Speaker 4: Look they had seven Think about that team though, No,
- 1:16:31Speaker 4: I'm not saying Kentucky.
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: Not listen, I'm just saying we wanted.
- 1:16:36Speaker 4: Look, we lost themout real, they beat us back, but
- 1:16:41Speaker 4: we got j T and James what look a little different?
- 1:16:46Speaker 6: Look j five, John Wall.
- 1:16:51Speaker 3: And the Marca's cousins. Was unfucking real.
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: Bro Ye, you wouldn't watching a lot.
- 1:16:57Speaker 6: I'm tapped. I knew you before you knew who you was.
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: We played good against the good things. But we beat Baylor.
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: We be all the teams that was good. But when
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: we play that John, we used to just be like
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: sucky Duke.
- 1:17:19Speaker 4: Remember let me tell you know the Duke game on YouTube.
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: Let me tell you what this jugger did. It was
- 1:17:25Speaker 4: the fun I tell people this story all the time.
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: So we go to Duke. They beating up forty one
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: to nineteen like they like, they beat it.
- 1:17:33Speaker 4: Jeff coming in a huddle and Youno drawn over play
- 1:17:36Speaker 4: and I looked at Jim, I said, and man, he
- 1:17:40Speaker 4: was like, don't eat trip. I got you. Man.
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: He came down to momb like two threes after that,
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: let's go. I was like, man, we all know that's wrong.
- 1:17:50Speaker 4: Came. We should have won that game.
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: We came.
- 1:17:53Speaker 3: That was no swimming for cale singling man.
- 1:17:56Speaker 4: Cole Singer couldn't do nothing with.
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: James come with on. It was he couldn't do off
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: Like I love James Johnson, I love James. We gotta
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: get out of here. But he was doing Greg. I'll
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: never forget, Bro, you had Greg Paul's legs. Bro.
- 1:18:15Speaker 4: We was cooking.
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: Remember, I was like, damn he did it? Like, let
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: me tell you.
- 1:18:21Speaker 4: We would like we ain't run no place in the
- 1:18:24Speaker 4: white point guards something real. We'd be like, hey, Jeff
- 1:18:28Speaker 4: got out at you were playing kill him, come down,
- 1:18:32Speaker 4: get to that pad and floater like he was just
- 1:18:35Speaker 4: they back up shooting man.
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: We was like, hey, next, hey man, you got him kidding.
- 1:18:40Speaker 4: We used to like go and then Elliott Williams traveled
- 1:18:44Speaker 4: all the way from No.
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: That was cheating coach Kate ripping off his jacket. I got.
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: I definitely got Elliot Williams was nasty. G P three
- 1:18:53Speaker 3: was hard too.
- 1:18:54Speaker 4: Though we beat Carolina that year.
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: Greg Paul, I'm just saying you got.
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: No.
- 1:19:03Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say. Greg Hous was on y'all level. Bro.
- 1:19:06Speaker 5: He was a great. He was a great college player.
- 1:19:08Speaker 5: He went to he he wants to end up. He
- 1:19:10Speaker 5: ended up going to he was New York. He wanted
- 1:19:13Speaker 5: to play quarterback. But I'm saying they had a good team.
- 1:19:16Speaker 4: Y'all.
- 1:19:17Speaker 5: Quit y'all gonna quit disrespecting these niggas. Y'all, was you
- 1:19:22Speaker 5: was better than great posts. You got him dancing like
- 1:19:24Speaker 5: a jab Walker. Yeah, that's cool. But I'm saying, like.
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: Jill Henderson was called Joe Henderson was three bigs.
- 1:19:32Speaker 5: Kobe he did, he was bro Number fifteen was nasty.
- 1:19:37Speaker 3: He was one of the best due players. He was.
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: I kept trying to tell these niggas, Bro.
- 1:19:41Speaker 5: They used to compare him to Kobe, not saying he
- 1:19:44Speaker 5: was like Kobe, but the similarities though.
- 1:19:47Speaker 4: He was.
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: He was Kobe in college for real.
- 1:19:49Speaker 6: Bro, say that before my nigga went, before my nigga
- 1:19:53Speaker 6: had to go ball.
- 1:19:54Speaker 5: Joel with with the hety Fame nasty.
- 1:20:00Speaker 4: Against Carolina and Tyler Hansboro over there playing and like
- 1:20:04Speaker 4: James like, yeah, yeah, look at this, what's wrong with
- 1:20:09Speaker 4: this dude?
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: Man?
- 1:20:10Speaker 4: We know he talked to none. He did run, but man,
- 1:20:13Speaker 4: it was a good old time. But we would have
- 1:20:19Speaker 4: got that Kentucky. Yeah, facts, Bro, it was good man.
- 1:20:21Speaker 4: I look, I played against them, but they we're gonna
- 1:20:23Speaker 4: throw Polo. See how people feel about that.
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: They definitely they're gonna say Kentucky, especially in this region. Man.
- 1:20:28Speaker 6: Shout out to bless So Niggy.
- 1:20:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate.
- 1:20:33Speaker 4: Y'all, So proud of y'all. Man, I'm so proud of
- 1:20:38Speaker 4: y'all man for real.
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: Like shouts to the Patrech Game. Shouts at the Volume
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: Club five twenty
- 1:20:45Speaker 4: Volume