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Chuck & Buck 12-30 hour 3: Gene Steratore, Everett Fitzhugh and do we have a running back competition? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's time for Checking Bucks weekly visit with former NFL
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  Speaker 1: and I ninety near the stadiums Now with Gene Sterotur,
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  Speaker 1: here's Checking Buck.
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  Speaker 2: Oh every Tuesday eight o'clock All football season long, we've
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  Speaker 2: had the privilege of chatting with CBS rules analyst and
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  Speaker 2: the greatest NFL official of all time, Jean Stertur, who
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  Speaker 2: joins us again today our final conversation at twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five with the great Gene Sterotor. Happy New Year, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Happy New Year, Chuck bucking Ashley.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any big plans where you're going to
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  Speaker 2: be for New Year's.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, my lovely wife and I are taking off New
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  Speaker 3: Year's morning and flying to Kansas City to visit the
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  Speaker 3: great children from my favorite child who's blessed me with
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  Speaker 3: a couple of those, and again we're gonna work our
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  Speaker 3: way back to New York for Week eighteen and a
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  Speaker 3: good slate of NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Would one of your other children throw a challenge flag
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  Speaker 2: on that or is it pretty obvious and clear that
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  Speaker 2: you have a favorite.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, daughter Natalie always gets the pass. The girls
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  Speaker 3: always get to pass.
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  Speaker 4: And the other son Andrew.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we just keep shipping more wine and telling
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  Speaker 3: them to drink more wine. And you know, the guest
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  Speaker 3: house was open. I don't know what's going on there,
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  Speaker 3: but we'll we'll work on it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, All right, Well, I hope you have a
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  Speaker 2: great time. We'll pick your brain here about a few
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  Speaker 2: things that happen. And I actually, I mean, we got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things to discuss from the last Seahawks game,
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  Speaker 2: but I do want to ask you about Monday night football.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I saw the best catch I've ever seen
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  Speaker 2: in my entire life watching football, and yet they ruled
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  Speaker 2: it in complete because Pooka Naku with one hand couldn't
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  Speaker 2: keep control of the ball. It did separate a little
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  Speaker 2: bit as he was falling out of bounds. But I'm wondering,
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  Speaker 2: how is that is that possible that that's a catch
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  Speaker 2: and then a fumble out of bounds because to me,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of looked like he had his arm ripped
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  Speaker 2: away from him after he'd already secured the ball. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I'll leave it to you to tell us exactly what
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  Speaker 2: you saw on the play and whether or not the
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  Speaker 2: officials deprived it the greatest catch of all time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Chuck, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: You know what it's I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: It brought back Lester Hayes days with me. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: when the stick them on the gloves seemed like it
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  Speaker 3: was just like non human But this was not the case.
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  Speaker 3: To me. That was one of the greatest. Like you
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  Speaker 3: talk about sticking a pass.
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  Speaker 4: He stuck it.
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  Speaker 3: But then you go into these beautiful rules about how
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  Speaker 3: we're going to define what a catch is and what
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  Speaker 3: happens to the player immediately after possession and and.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, You're right, he sticks it.
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  Speaker 3: He dots the eye both theeter in and is he
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  Speaker 3: falling at the time that he is doing that? So
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  Speaker 3: if he is falling at the time that he dots
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  Speaker 3: the eye, are we away from the upright person dotting
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  Speaker 3: the eye? And then the ball comes loose? Who cares
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  Speaker 3: or he steps out of bounds right after that?
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  Speaker 4: But if he's.
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  Speaker 3: Falling while he dots the eye, does he have to
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  Speaker 3: maintain possession of that football throughout the entire process? And
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  Speaker 3: then survive the ground, and I'm assuming I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 3: that's what they did with that last angle that we saw.
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  Speaker 3: That again was two camera frames, probably in slow motion,
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  Speaker 3: and looks like the ball suspending an air completely out
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  Speaker 3: of his control was a great play. The player did
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  Speaker 3: pull his hand away, but in the blended reality of
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  Speaker 3: real time, I don't even know if that separation of
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  Speaker 3: the hand even exists right like down on the field.
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  Speaker 5: Now, we live with.
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  Speaker 3: The replay situations because that's what the stakeholders have created.
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  Speaker 4: But I think this is one of those things where.
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  Speaker 3: In real time we slow that down just a little,
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  Speaker 3: you go, this might be one of the greatest catches
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  Speaker 3: we've ever seen, and inevitably it ends up as an
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  Speaker 3: incomplete pass. And that's some of the consequences of the replaccenarios.
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  Speaker 6: Geane, do you like I mean, I'm just gonna ask,
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  Speaker 6: do you like that they slow it down? I mean
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  Speaker 6: super high def, super duper slow motion, because to me,
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  Speaker 6: it's obviously going to catch you guys in something that
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  Speaker 6: is incorrect or I guess validate when you are correct,
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  Speaker 6: like last night's situation. And yet it also is dependent
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  Speaker 6: on whether or not the angle of the camera catches
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  Speaker 6: it right. I mean, up until that last view that
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  Speaker 6: we got, it looked like, oh my god, he stuck
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  Speaker 6: that thing and then you see it floating in mid air.
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  Speaker 6: He's still caught the ball in my opinion, but I
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  Speaker 6: guess by the letter of the law, it's not right.
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  Speaker 7: Do you like how what they slow it down like this?
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, personally, I don't. I would love to see
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  Speaker 3: us find whatever percentage that is. It's something I've thought
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  Speaker 3: about for really a long time in my world.
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  Speaker 4: I think, if we turn this thing down twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Percent from real time, ran this thing in an eighty
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  Speaker 3: percent slow motion for so many reasons, and I think
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  Speaker 3: one of the plays that we may talk about, the
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  Speaker 3: walker catch fumble, is it a fumble?
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  Speaker 4: Is it a catch that at us?
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  Speaker 3: If you slow that down only twenty percent, you just
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  Speaker 3: look at that play and go, look, he didn't have
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  Speaker 3: the ball along and if it's incomplete and in these
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  Speaker 3: scenarios as well, I think so many things happen. And
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  Speaker 3: then quite frankly, Bucky, I think one of the bigger
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  Speaker 3: reasons why I don't like it is I rep this
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  Speaker 3: game in real time on the field, and just like players,
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  Speaker 3: when you finally get to that place, hopefully from experience
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  Speaker 3: and being out there. The game slows down a percentage
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  Speaker 3: in my world that was about eighty percent. Quite humbly
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  Speaker 3: that I thought I was seeing the game in slow
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  Speaker 3: motion in some ways out there. If replay is reviewing
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  Speaker 3: plays at a level that officials focusing on the game
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  Speaker 3: at a high level should be seeing it, Now we're
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  Speaker 3: marrying in technology with what officials think, like when they
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  Speaker 3: see that replay then and they look at it the
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  Speaker 3: next day, you know, I got to get that play
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  Speaker 3: right in real time. But when you look at this
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  Speaker 3: pooka play, an official is no way going to ever
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  Speaker 3: look and we.
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  Speaker 4: Don't want them to and think how can I get
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  Speaker 4: that right? Whenever it really happens to me.
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  Speaker 3: So it's kind of a it's a different level of
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  Speaker 3: why don't like it outside of the fact that I
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  Speaker 3: think the one hundred people in.
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  Speaker 4: The bar look at plays at twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Percent slower and we come to a better consensus rather
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  Speaker 3: than this dissection of frame by frame which no human
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  Speaker 3: eye could ever dissect and no brain could comprehend. And
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  Speaker 3: you're adding that to a game that is officiated for
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  Speaker 3: the most part.
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  Speaker 4: Without these safety nets.
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  Speaker 3: So no I don't. And we could talk about that
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  Speaker 3: probably for a whole show. But that's really my rationale
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  Speaker 3: is summarize as I.
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  Speaker 7: Could make it well.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, somebody he screwed us out of seeing
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest catches of all time exactly, but
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks benefited from it, So no big deal. Geene
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  Speaker 2: Stertur is with us a segment brought to you by
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  Speaker 2: BMW Seattle speaking of the Seahawks. So much to comb
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  Speaker 2: over from that game, I'll go ahead and start. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's not chronological orders, but since you've already brought it up,
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  Speaker 2: the Walker fumble incomplete pass or catch and where should
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  Speaker 2: it have been spotted? And did Mike McDonald get told
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  Speaker 2: that he couldn't challenge that? And then did they get
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  Speaker 2: the spot right? And I mean it was just utter
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  Speaker 2: chaos that entire sequence. What should have been called in
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  Speaker 2: that moment, now that you've had a chance to analyze it, tons.
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  Speaker 3: Of chaos and you know, chucky. We had technical difficulties
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  Speaker 3: in multiple games.
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  Speaker 4: Right in this window and in the ref studio.
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  Speaker 3: You can sit for thirty minutes, truthfully and not have something,
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  Speaker 3: and then it can crash from five different places and
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  Speaker 3: perfect storm for us in an unfortunate way with the
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  Speaker 3: little audio difficulty.
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  Speaker 4: But I thought the.
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  Speaker 3: Walker was again that example as I saw it and
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  Speaker 3: got to look at it in studios.
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  Speaker 4: Slowing it down.
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  Speaker 3: If you look, when he possesses the football, this backfoot
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  Speaker 3: is just down, so it's beginning to come up in
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  Speaker 3: replay that counts as a one. In real time, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't even look like it exists. And then you have
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  Speaker 3: two really quick steps as he's turning tucking the ball away.
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  Speaker 4: But during those other two tap taps as he's spearwetting.
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  Speaker 3: You've really now touched three feet down on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: And then he's turning in just as you said earlier,
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  Speaker 3: he loses the ball on his own. But I think
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  Speaker 3: if you break it down and really go to this
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  Speaker 3: frame by framing, it appeared to me that there was
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  Speaker 3: firm possession and three feet did make their contact to
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  Speaker 3: the ground in a step ball, though very.
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  Speaker 4: Quick steps and take place now fumble.
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  Speaker 3: I believe Walker did recover his fumble, which may have
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  Speaker 3: changed something about down in distance. That's the question for
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks coaching staff. They also are on the offense,
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  Speaker 3: so they have the luxury of the play clock even
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  Speaker 3: though time may have been of the essence.
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  Speaker 4: But if you've got.
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  Speaker 3: Three timeouts remaining and it's a play where you're looking like, look,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to stop the clock anyway and get it
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  Speaker 3: two for one, throw the flag because if you miss,
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  Speaker 3: it's a timeout anyway, you were going to take it.
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  Speaker 7: But that's about my pay grade.
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  Speaker 3: But I thought if it broke down frame by frame
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  Speaker 3: that there was a chance, a good chance that that
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  Speaker 3: could have been a catch fumble recovered then by walker.
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  Speaker 4: I think for a couple of yard games.
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  Speaker 6: Further than the incompletion, wow, well, there was a lot
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  Speaker 6: of crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 7: I mean.
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  Speaker 6: Another interesting play was the interception. Mike Jackson intercepted the
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  Speaker 6: ball there in the third quarter. The first review, the
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  Speaker 6: first thing that I looked at was, oh, looked like
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  Speaker 6: his toe was out of bound. They end up reviewing
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  Speaker 6: it like they do all turnovers, and said, yeah, his
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  Speaker 6: shin hits the ground.
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  Speaker 7: First.
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  Speaker 6: To me, that was one where all right, if it did,
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  Speaker 6: then it did. It didn't look like you could say
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  Speaker 6: that it did for sure, as much as you couldn't
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  Speaker 6: say that it didn't touch the ground. Is that the
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  Speaker 6: way you looked at it or could did you get
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  Speaker 6: an angle where you could see exactly that it did
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  Speaker 6: touch the ground.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think you hit it, Bucky, if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 4: Did they rule interception on the field on the play
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  Speaker 4: I was trying to Yeah, So I think that one again.
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  Speaker 3: And you're right when that leg buckles underneath where this
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  Speaker 3: shin starts to play down by contact plays or in
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  Speaker 3: this scenario, that shin right above the ankle, if the
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  Speaker 3: ankle rolls are the foot rolls, they don't count it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the back of the wrist on a hand plant,
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  Speaker 3: so that really doesn't count as a body part down.
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  Speaker 3: But then right above that that body part once that
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  Speaker 3: starts to crumble and hit that ground, And in this case,
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  Speaker 3: I think it was that man. Did that part of
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  Speaker 3: the shin above the ankle make contact with the ground
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  Speaker 3: inbounds and in a frame or two that foot's on
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  Speaker 3: the white And again you're back to this really wild
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  Speaker 3: frame by framing and then making a decision as to
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  Speaker 3: whether the shin beat.
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  Speaker 4: The foot down on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: But I think when we get into shins, it also
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  Speaker 3: because we're not really down on the ground surface, you're
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  Speaker 3: playing with just a tiny bit of Is that shin
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  Speaker 3: really down yet or is there this you know, index
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  Speaker 3: card level of distance between it in the in the
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  Speaker 3: surface before we thought it was down. But then I
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  Speaker 3: think when you get to these the best and the
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  Speaker 3: most prudent way, and really the way the book is written,
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  Speaker 3: these are plays that are so tight. All right, let's
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  Speaker 3: go back to what they did on the field. That's
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  Speaker 3: the best answer for the play. But I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was really tight. I kind of felt like the shin
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  Speaker 3: was down before the foot. But man, you're talking one
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  Speaker 3: two hundredth of a second camera frame difference.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So is it safe to say that if they
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  Speaker 2: would have called that incomplete, that would have been held
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  Speaker 2: up as well as opposed to fall in that.
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  Speaker 3: I think Donald's pass fumble fell in that. I think
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  Speaker 3: we had.
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  Speaker 4: A We had so many things in your game so quickly.
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  Speaker 3: It was look it was job security from an analyst
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  Speaker 3: for your point, like, if I ever want to like
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  Speaker 3: go sell myself somewhere, I think if I take these
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  Speaker 3: two and a half minutes from this game, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you mean that could really all happen, Yes, in one
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  Speaker 3: game too. So what do you think do you think
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  Speaker 3: I have bow you once a year or not? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you tell me, but n unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, most of it happened in one drive. For goodness sake. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Jeene Sterritor is with us here on the program, and
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  Speaker 2: that's right, you were in jj Watt's ere. I even
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  Speaker 2: wrote it down on all of my notes. But for
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  Speaker 2: some reason, when I was recapping this last hour, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: whoever Jean's guy is was telling jj Watt apparently that
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  Speaker 2: there was not a horse caller, So I want to
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  Speaker 2: clear this all up. So we thought, and I think
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  Speaker 2: the whole world thought, that there was a face mask
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  Speaker 2: and a horse caller on a jay and tackle and
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  Speaker 2: that both were missed. And then jj Watts said something
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  Speaker 2: to the effect of, I guess that wasn't really a
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  Speaker 2: horse collar. I don't know if you got in his
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  Speaker 2: ear on that and explained it, but maybe you need
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  Speaker 2: to explain it to us. Did the officials just blow
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  Speaker 2: two calls on one play or is there an explanation
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  Speaker 2: as to why there wasn't a flag drone there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the face mask myths one hundred percent miss and
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  Speaker 3: from an officiating window, there's a deep official on that
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  Speaker 3: sideline that really isn't or shouldn't be focusing on the
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  Speaker 3: runner immediately. Whenever plays start down the sideline, that really
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  Speaker 3: is for the official that will be kind of behind
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  Speaker 3: the runner in that's case.
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  Speaker 4: But once that defender starts to threaten the runner, and
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  Speaker 4: when a hands near a face mask.
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  Speaker 3: That downfield official needs a transition from the blocking that's
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  Speaker 3: in front of them to the action on the runner
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  Speaker 3: for secondary help because that official is the only one
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  Speaker 3: that's going to see that head turning the hand in there,
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  Speaker 3: so miss on the face mask the horse caller play
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  Speaker 3: just a little bit of level of subjectivity. Now by rule,
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  Speaker 3: horse caller is inside the collar on the side behind
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  Speaker 3: on the name plate, which this was, and immediately pulling
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  Speaker 3: the runner backward. So in this one, I think the
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  Speaker 3: face mask actually look the hands on the name plate.
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  Speaker 3: The jersey starts to go down, the other hand is
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  Speaker 3: grabbing the face mask, which kind of twist.
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  Speaker 4: It twists the runner so.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't feel and I'm again trying to teleport to
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  Speaker 3: real time.
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  Speaker 4: Like is that immediately pulling him to the ground or
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  Speaker 4: is he spinning him with that hand? And I think
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  Speaker 4: a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: The spin may have come from the face mask and
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  Speaker 3: how it creates the body spin. And now at the end,
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  Speaker 3: he kind of felt like as we went into the sideline,
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  Speaker 3: you know a what I think he finishes him because
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  Speaker 3: of what he has on the nameplate. I get reluctant
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  Speaker 3: to tell guys if I get to them on air,
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  Speaker 3: if I think there's levels of some subjectivity, may lead
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  Speaker 3: them into a place where they make this absolutely definitive statement,
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  Speaker 3: and then this little tweak of a play causes it
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  Speaker 3: not to be that. I'm more safe on those, if
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  Speaker 3: that makes any sense. And in Jay J's case, I
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  Speaker 3: think he's so talented and he gets so much about
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  Speaker 3: what refs do, which most players don't, and it's because
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  Speaker 3: of his study and prep and how he's really morphing
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  Speaker 3: into what I think is really a great color analyst.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's kind of where he was alluding to.
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  Speaker 3: Again within this window, we have this technical difficulty, but
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  Speaker 3: I thought he'd did a good job.
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  Speaker 4: The face mask. You got to get though, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which you got to get to play?
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  Speaker 7: Is there one? Isn't there one horse caller?
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  Speaker 6: Is it a quarterback or something in the in the
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  Speaker 6: pocket where you can horse caller? Because that was one
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  Speaker 6: where I was wondering if that was part of it.
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  Speaker 6: This wasn't that rule, But is there one?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's out of the pocket, Bucky, But yeah, player
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  Speaker 3: in the pocket between the tackles. Horse callers are allowed
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  Speaker 3: kind of because defensive players are blasting into an offensive
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  Speaker 3: lineman who's got to reach over a defender to a
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  Speaker 3: quarterback that if he's in the pocket for most situations
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  Speaker 3: is stationary where the horse caller becomes more of a
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  Speaker 3: threat if you are running and now I pull you
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  Speaker 3: back and if the impact on the legs in a
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  Speaker 3: running movement to pull backwards is more inclined for safety,
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  Speaker 3: So they do put that in in the NFL college
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  Speaker 3: found no matter where, because the quarterbacks are more active
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  Speaker 3: inside the pocket.
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  Speaker 4: But that's the.
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  Speaker 3: Rationale behind where they have that activity happen and why.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: One is and one is not.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Well, then there was an actual face mask penalty that
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: might have been the play of the game. It might
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: have changed the entire game. Was it a self fulfilling prophecy,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: like we have to have another face mask to fix
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: what was missed earlier in the in the game to
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: set the world right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: In the backyard and when I played hoops on the street,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: that's just called Balldo lodge that's called Baldo loge. We
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: left with the sporting gods come up, they find ways
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: at times.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: And sometimes we're lucky by that.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: But the Baldo lie because I can assure you that
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: in many cases.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Well, let's we got to talk about that, Sam Darnold crazy.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Was it a fumble? Was it an incompletion? Almost got
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: to intercept it? I mean, just the insanity. Another insane play.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: So walk us through that one and what should have
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: been done?
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: It's frame by frame, right, I mean, rule most referees,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I would say ninety nine point nine percent of the
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: time in these plays are gonna rule fumble because they
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: don't want to be blown an incomplete pass and find
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: out that football started to move two camera frames before
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: his arm went forward, and it was a loose ball
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: basically pushed forward by our replay technology. So you're gonna
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: see fumble ruled almost always on that play, and they
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: should for safety for safe reasons about it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: If it is a fumble, let a play.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: And then you get into plays like this, which there
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: are not many of those, and it is that really
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: almost by one camera frame, this football all it feels
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: like it is starting to move just as this arm
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: is going forward, and I think those fall in these buckets,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and I think if we stayed at twenty percent slower
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: than real time, we would still come to a lot
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: of these conclusions, like you know what, that's too tight
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: for us to sit here and try to make some real,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: definitive answer. We go with what they ruled on the field,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: and I thought that still was in that bucket. Although
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: pass fumbles I have ruled on them where it was
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: one or two camera frames and felt like he still
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: had control. And this was I think, quite honestly, maybe
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: the closest one I saw this year. And really, I
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: think when you're just clicking one camera frame and it's changing,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I think you stay.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: With what you had, all right, all right, Well there
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: was a lot going on in that game, man, Yeah,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I think we.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Could still talk more because Milli Pender he actually inherited
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: my ref number one fourteen. He worked in my ref
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: studio before he became an active NFL official.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: There was a clip of showing.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Him jumping over top of equipment boxes without his hat
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: on to try to get to the skirmish I think
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: on the sideline during the game, and I told the
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: guys in the studio, well, when I had that number
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: on my back, I could have never jumped on top
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: of that box like that. I'd had to look for
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: three players and say, come here, lift me up, get
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: me on that box so I can jump over here
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: and stop the mess in the sideline.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: But yeah, there was a lot going on Fellaws for sure.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Uh well, Uh cheers to a happy new year, and
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: uh cheers to all the refs and the very difficult
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: jobs that they have, and may they have a spectacular
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: new year in twenty twenty six, getting all the calls
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: right because we're in the playoffs and we're gonna need
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: a fair shape.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: You're here.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Everybody needs the at the lead level.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: We got one month of football up and then one
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: beautiful game after this month.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: This is why we do what we do. So we
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: hope everybody is at their best right now.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: All right, be safe, Happy new year, Thanks guys, you too,
• 20:15
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• 21:00
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• 21:17
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• 21:20
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• 21:21
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say if that wasn't written in there,
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: let's make sure we get that in pen.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the first thing, first first law of
• 21:28
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• 21:31
  Speaker 2: so joining us here on the program to celebrate the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: close of twenty twenty five and the promise of twenty
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: twenty six is the voice of your Seattle Crack and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the amazing Everett fits You. Good morning, sir, Happy New year.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Oh fellas, Happy New Year. And Bucky.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: There's something just so safe about just collapsing into your arms,
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: big old bear hub. Look, man, it's just feels so warm. Oh,
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: I know that I'm going to be all right.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, feelings mutual, and you're not a small
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: fellow fits and so I feel the same.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Never gets to feel tiny, no, Yeah, and yet listen.
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: It's been my dream to be small spoon once in
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: my life. You're about the closest that I've ever come.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I got for a fleet moment, I thought this must
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: be what it's like to be Ariana Grande. Well, I
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: think the last time I chatted with you, because I
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: took a little time off and we've had the holidays,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: we couldn't figure out how to win a game. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, I'm sitting here talking to
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you about not being able to make it five in
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: a row last night. So things have turned since last
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: we spoke.
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know what, It sounds so cliche, but
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: this team is it got back to simplifying their game.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, you look at their last five games.
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: If you you know, we're not going to count the
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: shootout goal because it wasn't a goal against the Krack
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: and now for five straight games have allowed one or
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: two goals in each of those games. It's been a
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: defensive structure that made them successful the first month of
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: the season, which got them off to that franchise record start.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: So it's it's been a simplifying of their game. I
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: think when when you're going through slumps that will happen,
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: you try to be a little bit too fancy, you
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: try to maybe you grip the stick a little bit
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: too tight, you try to do a little bit too much.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: And I think the message just got through to the guys, like, hey,
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: you know, let's simplify our game.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: We know who we are, we know what makes us successful.
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: And and they got back to it, and and it
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: wasn't the right time the game and Calgary, I remember,
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: you know, listening to a couple of guys postgame, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: it was it was very melancholy, it was very frustrating
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: and very annoying in the locker room these the way
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: that the guys worked hard and couldn't get it done.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: So then you go to San Jose, you sweep your
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: way through California for the first time ever against three
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: pretty good hockey teams and against three teams that are
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: above you in standings, and just like that you're making
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: up ground. You went from being seven points back to
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: at least for about forty five minutes yesterday, one point
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: back of a playoff spot in the span of eight days.
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: So the crack back in it. And that's, I guess
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: the beauty of this season, the compacted schedule. Everyone is
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: so tight, everyone is so close. You can overcome a one,
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: nine and one stretch with a five game point streak,
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: which is what they're on right now.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Wow, that is crazy how quickly they got back into
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: the mix, and yet the unfortunately the wind streak comes
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: to a close last night against the Canucks and the
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: overtime shootout. I mean, they just looked tired to me.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: I have no idea how difficult hockey is it. I'm
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: sure that it's a it's a lot, there's a lot
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: going on there, but they just seem tired in the shootout.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: I mean just the way in which they'd skate up there.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: Is there anything to that with the you know how
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: they've been playing up to this point and then finding
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: themselves even after extra time, having to go to the shootout.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the shootout's been an area of opportunity. I'll say
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: they've worked on it quite a bit in practices. If
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: you're asking me personally, I think the shootout was a
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: wonderful gimmick twenty years ago when when they put it in,
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: and now I think a lot of players fans maybe you're.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Going a bit tired of it, but it's still part
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: of the game.
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: You know, the shootout is it's it's a total crap
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: shoot right. I mean Kevin lanket in for the Vancouver Canucks.
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: I read all time that he has won thirteen of
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: his fourteen shootouts.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: In his career.
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: There are some goalies that are just lights out during
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: the shootout. Kevin Lankinton's one of them. And the cracking
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: and running into some hot goalies and I mean, you're
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: really you can't coach the shootout, right, It's like trying
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: to coach a home run derby, you know what I mean.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: It's like, hey, you just go up and hit the.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: Baseball, give me your best move and try to beat
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: the goalie. There's no system, there's no you know, two
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: on one there there's nothing, right like, it's go up
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: there and try to score. So you can't coach the
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: home run derby. You can only practice invp. You can't
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: really coach the shootout. You can only just try your
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: best moves in practice so many times and unfortunately for Seattle,
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: and they've fallen victim now four times to the shootout
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: this year.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Well, if you ever do find yourself in a home
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: run derby, Bucky could at least give you some tips.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, maybe he.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Can't coach you, Yeah yeah, if you ever, but if
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: you ever find yourself in that situation, he's your guy.
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well I'll coach you.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: It's just whether or not you're coachable enough and talented enough.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I think you are.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: And we're gonna go down the line. Can I use
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: a metal bat?
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we'll get you a big one.
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: I remember the story Caitlin de Boor one time told
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: he was talking about how he played college baseball. He
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: was he was a baseball prospect, and he knew it
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: was time to give it up when he said he
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: hit the hardest ball he'd ever hit his entire life
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: with a wooden bat, and it barely made it out
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: of the infield.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: And I feel like that's that's me. I feel like
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: that would be me.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: I would just get a hold of one and it'd
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: be a little number right back to the third piece.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Ever fits you is with us?
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: So how important is this New Year's Day game with
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the Predators? And I say it from this perspective, So
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you went on this drought and then all of a
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: sudden you got in a tear uh, and then you
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: lose a game via a shootout, but it's.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: Still you know, you don't win the game.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: So how important is it then in this next game
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: against the Predators to to just remind yourself, like, all right,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: we're not gonna sync back in anything more. What we've
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: been doing lately is real. That whole losing straight that
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: was out of character. We gotta we gotta make sure
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: that we got to keep this good thing going and
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: not less a shootout loss trip us up in any way.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: So I've just asked, how important from that standpoint is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: winning New Year's Day at home against Nashville.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean you said it right, you have to
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: get back on the horse.
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: You can't let you can't let that that game affect
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: you moving forward. Nashville is a team that is one
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: point you in the playoffs, So you're playing a really
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: good team who's been surging as of late. Your next
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: four game, I mean, your next ten games essentially are
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: going to be against either playoff teams, teams that are.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Directly with you or or two to four points back
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: of you.
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: So against Nashville, I mean, you've had a lot of
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: success against them. You beat them twice in their building
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: last season. The Kraken can't let that shootout loss affect them.
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: And like I said before, their last five games they
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: have allowed one or two goals in each of those games.
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: They've gotten back to what's made them successful. They're a
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: point back of Seattle. So you have to go into
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: this game thinking another playoff mindset, Right, we have to
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: get these two points. Nashville wins this game, they're gonna
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: leap fraud us in the standings.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: That's the motivation going into Thursday.
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: And then you're back in Vancouver on Friday Day with
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: a chance at some revenge so to speak. So I
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: mean two really important games Thursday and Friday. But Nashville,
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: you need to get back in the win column, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: you can't dwell on a really good effort last night
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: that didn't result in a second point.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, happy New Year. To you, sir, are
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: you gonna do anything? I mean, you'll be home, so
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: anything to celebrate You and Al gonna get together with
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the wives and you know, maybe toast the top the
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: space needles, you know, something fun, something you know, meg
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Ryanish like that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna put my three year old to bed, and
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: my wife and I are going to toasting nice glass
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: of sparkling grape juice and then we'll go off to we.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Celebrate that what we're calling it these days. That's the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: weirdest euphemism I've ever heard.
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: Yep, sparkling grape juice.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Sparkling grapeeers. We celebrate East Coast New Year.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: So ten, it's been like four years since I've even
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: made it to midnight.
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: I tried, I've tried.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't happen.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Last year, yeah, last year I was. I was a bachelor.
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: On New Year's Eve, my wife and my son were
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: back back in Jersey where she's from, so I went
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: uh downtown.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: I saw the fireworks on the needle.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: I was hanging out at Buckley's with some friends watching
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: some football, and I caught the fireworks and it was
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: really cool. I've never experienced a seattle New Year's Eve
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: and it was.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: It was pretty fun last year. So I got my
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: one in.
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: But uh no, we're gonna We're gonna watch the ball
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: drop in Times Square at nine pm, and I will
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: be fast asleep by ten.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, cheers, stay cozy, Cheers to the fits Hughes,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you next year.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: We'll see you next year.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: All right, ever, fits you the voice of your Seattle
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: crack and he and L will be back on the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: call New Year's Night against the Nashville Predators coming up next,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Walker or Charbonney? Do we have to make that decision
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: before Saturday night's game. Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: kjr FM. All right, So is the new Dallas Renegades
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: head coach still joining us.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: At nine o'clock?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: As far as I know, I checked in with him yesterday.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Now this was pre new sheriff in town toay, well,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: we do have a little bit of breaking news. I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: don't know how that's going to affect Sports Radio ninety
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: three point three kJ r FM. But Rick new Isel
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: might be changing jobs after some flirtation with Washington State.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Looks like he's going to be going to the Dallas
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Renegades of the watch a Ma Jigger League, you know,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the the UFL, the combination of the.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: XFO, the USFL.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: The UFL. And so he's been involved in those leagues
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: before and had a lot of success down there in Arizona.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: But he obviously wanted to coach. He wanted to coach
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: some ball while he's still young enough to coach some
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: ball and lead some men. And so he was obviously
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: very serious about that. And so he is going to
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: become the next head coach of the Dallas Renegades. That
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: announced about an hour ago. So that said, we'll chat
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: with him, hopefully at nine o'clock if his life's not
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: too crazy, we'll still have our opportunity to talk some
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: college football with him and find out about this newest
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: adventure for Rick Neuheisel. In the meantime, Seahawks forty nine
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: ers getting ready for Saturday night. And look, I don't
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: know if it's time to make a change to the
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: starting lineup, if you will, heading into the last week
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: of the regular season, when you've accomplished so much. I mean,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: you're thirteen in three right now. But I will say this,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: that was about the most frustrated I've been with ken
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Walker in a game that I can remember, and I
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: think I was the most impressed. I've been with Zach
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Sharboney in a game that I can remember. And so
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: when you put those two things together and you're getting
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: ready for your biggest game of the year, I can't
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: help but wonder if you're not Mike McDonald thinking about
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a bigger role for Zach Charbonay, maybe more of the
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Lion's share of Carri's. I watched Sharbonay run decisively and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: excellently on Sunday against Carolina and Bucky, I swear I
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: watch ken Walker and I wrote down on my sheet,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is he ever going to run where the
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: play's designed? And I realized that he wasn't getting a
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: lot of help up front, but Zach Sharbonay's got the
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: same offensive line in front of him, and he seemed
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: to be finding his way down the field. Ken Walker
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: just now it's not there and just bailed on it
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: almost every single carry on Sunday. Probably most of those
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: decisions were justified, but at some point you do just
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: kind of have to go where the where the play
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  Speaker 2: is designed to go, and I don't think ken Walker
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  Speaker 2: did it once on Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: Uh yeah, I mean I didn't notice it that like
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: you're talking about, but I do tend to notice that
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  Speaker 6: just overarching kind of feel where it rightfully so to
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: some extent, there's times where it looks like it's heading
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  Speaker 6: in the a gap or something and there's two dudes
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  Speaker 6: right there, so he's immediately trying to bounce it. There's
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: other times where it's like the bounce should happen at
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: the land of scrimmage or beyond the line of scrimmage,
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: if there's a if you can there's an ass you
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  Speaker 6: can run off of, then hit it, you know, two, three,
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  Speaker 6: four yards?
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  Speaker 7: We all. I mean, you don't have to be a
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: running back. You don't have to be a former quarterback
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: to have watched football and know that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Sometimes the best running back in the game, or the
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: guys that are having good years sometimes they just see
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: it and they're like, yeah, it's not much, but I
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: can split right between these two guys and I'm going
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: to get two, maybe three or four yards, And now
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: of a sudden, you're kind of still on track. You
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: try to bounce it and you lose a yard or
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: you just barely get back to the line of scrimmage
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: and at second and ten that's completely different than the
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: second six. And I do think that he does that
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: more often than I would be willing to bet, more
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: often than the organization wants him to.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: There's this great line from Gladiators that has always stuck
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: with me. Or Gladiate, not Gladiators, Gladiator, the difference between Gladiators, yes, Gladiator, yes.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: But Maximus at one this point he turns to like
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: his servant, if you will, and you know, they're all
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: talking about the whole thing's about freedom and all that stuff,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: and he just asked him. He's like, do you enjoy
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: your job? And he says, sometimes I do what I
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: want to do. Most of the times, I do what
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I have to do.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: Mh.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: That's life as.
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  Speaker 7: A running back.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Sometimes the play opens up and you've got open field
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: and you get to do what you want to be
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: a running back. You get to gallop in the meadow
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: and for as many yards as you can and if
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: you can outrun all the other horses, oh man, that's
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: our breathtaking feeling. But as a running back in the
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: National Football League, most of the time, you just got
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: to take what the defense gives you. And then hopefully
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: get a little bit more. That's the job of a
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: running it. Saquon Barkley had to learn that. He was
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the same way and Brian day Balls. The one thing
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Brian da Bole contributed to football, he taught Saquon Barkley
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: to be a superstar. He had superstar potential, but he
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: had to start running like an NFL running back and
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: not like a college running back who could just out
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: juke everyone. And that's the same thing with ken Walker.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: And I thought Sunday was about the worst I've seen
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  Speaker 2: him perform in that arena. I thought he was terrible
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: at it on Sunday. And it didn't help that Zach
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Charbonnay was so effective running just the opposite. So I
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: don't know, we'll see, We'll see if there's a change
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: an adjustment. I would imagine ken Walker gets the start,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: but maybe as a little shorter of a rope heading
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: into Saturday, because I don't know if Mike McDonald's gonna
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: live with that in such a big game for mini carries.
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