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- 0:11Speaker 1: A lot.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Physical group. They play together really, really well. Have a
- 0:15Speaker 2: lot of energy, a lot of juice. You can see
- 0:17Speaker 2: each level complementing each other. A lot of really good
- 0:19Speaker 2: players individually. They play even better together. They're doing a
- 0:23Speaker 2: great job getting after the ball, a great job of
- 0:26Speaker 2: limiting explosives, trying to control things. So we're excited for
- 0:30Speaker 2: the challenge. Again, we have a ton of respect for them.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Really good scheme as well. They play it well, do
- 0:36Speaker 2: a lot of different things, but they do it. At
- 0:38Speaker 2: a high level, again, you don't see a lot of
- 0:39Speaker 2: busts on film. You don't see a lot of miscommunications
- 0:42Speaker 2: despite all the variety of stuff that they bring. So
- 0:46Speaker 2: that's really impressive. Yeah, so we have to be at
- 0:50Speaker 2: our best throughout this week. Make sure we're at our
- 0:53Speaker 2: best so we can give ourselves the best chance to perform.
- 0:56Speaker 2: And we're excited for the opportunity.
- 0:58Speaker 3: There you go. That is Bryce.
- 0:59Speaker 4: Bryce better be super excited for tonight's chance in Lambeau
- 1:05Speaker 4: against the Green Bay Packers. We are turning the page.
- 1:10Speaker 4: Turning the page from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That means
- 1:14Speaker 4: you too, Tampa Tammy. Any Tampa Bay fans in the window,
- 1:18Speaker 4: please move along. We need a shade that we can
- 1:21Speaker 4: pull down when Tampa Tammy appears outside the window.
- 1:24Speaker 3: Just pull the shade down. I still need to have
- 1:26Speaker 3: one of those one time. Oh, my goodness.
- 1:30Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Anyway, we got to talk. She's acting like she's rising
- 1:33Speaker 3: from the dead right now.
- 1:33Speaker 4: We got to talk back her game right now. Got
- 1:36Speaker 4: to hope Florida State routes her Clemson Tigers. And I
- 1:39Speaker 4: apologize to the rest of the Clemson fans out there.
- 1:41Speaker 4: I don't want to be anti-Clemson, but Tampa Tammy made
- 1:44Speaker 4: me do it. I thank Dabo lover out there.
- 1:46Speaker 3: All right. Let's focus.
- 1:48Speaker 4: Let's focus on the Green Bay game, Bo, because now
- 1:51Speaker 4: we are being distracted by Sunday's result.
- 1:54Speaker 3: And of course, Tammy in our window. Let's talk.
- 1:57Speaker 4: And by the way, for those of you wondering, we
- 1:59Speaker 4: keep getting questions about this. We will discuss the Hornets loss,
- 2:02Speaker 4: Brandon Miller's performance, but the number one thing to discuss
- 2:05Speaker 4: that y'all have opinions about on the text line is
- 2:08Speaker 4: the fact that Charles Lee benched Nas Reed for the
- 2:11Speaker 4: entire second half of a game we led by seven
- 2:13Speaker 4: on the road a half of, and then afterwards told
- 2:16Speaker 4: Shannon Spake and the whole world, yeah, Nas didn't live
- 2:19Speaker 4: up to the standard in the first half. So we've
- 2:22Speaker 4: got to discuss that at 725.
- 2:25Speaker 3: What do you feel good about?
- 2:27Speaker 4: I feel like this might be a weak bone where
- 2:30Speaker 4: it's hard to get Panther Nation to chime in on
- 2:32Speaker 4: this part of this segment. What do you feel good
- 2:35Speaker 4: about this week? I don't know if the confidence is
- 2:38Speaker 4: restored yet in our fan base. What do you feel
- 2:42Speaker 4: good about in tonight's game?
- 2:44Speaker 3: Anything, Bonesy?
- 2:45Speaker 6: I still have high confidence in Bryce. I don't think
- 2:47Speaker 6: that that's the true Bryce in 2026 that we saw
- 2:51Speaker 6: the other day. I think Bryce has a bounce-back performance tonight.
- 2:55Speaker 6: I think I feel good about that. I don't think
- 2:57Speaker 6: you're going to– I'm not saying he's going– completely bonkers tonight,
- 3:01Speaker 6: but I think you're going to see a much better,
- 3:03Speaker 6: more in line with who he was prior to Sunday
- 3:06Speaker 6: than we saw on Sunday.
- 3:09Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely, I would definitely agree with that. Jared
- 3:12Speaker 4: Goff threw for over 300 on him. One of the
- 3:14Speaker 4: things Bryce could not do last week, Bone, because the
- 3:17Speaker 4: pressure was on him so quickly, is he could not
- 3:20Speaker 4: get the ball.
- 3:21Speaker 3: Downfield the way he had been doing.
- 3:23Speaker 4: He had been averaging like eight completions per 10 yards
- 3:26Speaker 4: or more air yards a game. A big jump from
- 3:29Speaker 4: last year when he was at like four. And Jerry,
- 3:32Speaker 4: last week, Boney at three. So I would expect him
- 3:36Speaker 4: to be able to do that better against this Green
- 3:39Speaker 4: Bay team. Their defense is pretty good. But I don't
- 3:44Speaker 4: think it's great. I don't think we're going to, you know,
- 3:47Speaker 4: with that said, you know, like Tampa's defense, a top
- 3:50Speaker 4: five unit statistically. Green Bay's has been pretty good, but
- 3:53Speaker 4: not necessarily to that level. I also think we're going
- 3:56Speaker 4: to run the football tonight. I think Chuba Hubbard is
- 3:58Speaker 4: going to have a game. I think when you have
- 4:01Speaker 4: the offensive line injuries that we do, like.
- 4:03Speaker 3: What what did we do?
- 4:04Speaker 4: Well, bone and I understand Green Bay's defense is not
- 4:07Speaker 4: the Lions defense, right?
- 4:08Speaker 3: That Lions defense is. has some serious issues.
- 4:11Speaker 4: But what did we do in that game when we
- 4:13Speaker 4: had Moten and Lewis out together? We decided to go
- 4:18Speaker 4: quick passing game, a lot of RPOs, and then we
- 4:21Speaker 4: really got that run game going with Chuba. I would
- 4:24Speaker 4: be surprised if... if we don't go quicker with the
- 4:28Speaker 4: passing game at times than we did last week to
- 4:32Speaker 4: avoid any potential problems with the O-line and pass protection.
- 4:36Speaker 4: And I also think, get this O-line feeling good with
- 4:39Speaker 4: some runs, Bone. Get them opening some holes and getting
- 4:42Speaker 4: some confidence.
- 4:43Speaker 6: Let them get into an early rhythm that they definitely
- 4:46Speaker 6: didn't have last week.
- 4:47Speaker 3: And I think we have a chance to do those.
- 4:48Speaker 3: I think we can do those things tonight. Because none
- 4:50Speaker 3: of this... None of this matters.
- 4:52Speaker 6: Bryce Young, the wide outs, the run game of the
- 4:55Speaker 6: offensive line is not better than it was on Sunday. No,
- 4:58Speaker 6: the offensive line's not feeling good about itself.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Then none of the none of the other stuff at all.
- 5:03Speaker 3: We're talking about matters whatsoever.
- 5:04Speaker 4: And the problem is your two best linemen started Sunday
- 5:07Speaker 4: and they're out like that. That's a pretty alarming thing.
- 5:11Speaker 4: Now that we know D. Lou is out to go
- 5:12Speaker 4: with Moten. Oh, no, it's devastating. Absolutely.
- 5:17Speaker 6: You started the show with this outside of the Nas
- 5:21Speaker 6: Reed stuff. All five offensive line spots for this game
- 5:25Speaker 6: you're worried about.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Definitely.
- 5:27Speaker 6: I'm not saying that guys can't perform well and we
- 5:29Speaker 6: don't worry about it, but entering the game, there's not
- 5:32Speaker 6: one where I'm saying, oh, yeah, I'm overly confident about
- 5:35Speaker 6: this or that in this game on the offensive line.
- 5:37Speaker 3: I think Idzik will work around it. That's the way
- 5:39Speaker 3: I put it.
- 5:40Speaker 4: I feel like he worked around, Bo, on the offensive
- 5:42Speaker 4: line issues in the Detroit game.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Right?
- 5:45Speaker 3: Let's get it out quick. Let's run the ball.
- 5:47Speaker 4: So I feel like can we get Idzik and company
- 5:50Speaker 4: working around it today?
- 5:52Speaker 3: We'll see. Yeah.
- 5:54Speaker 6: We're a few offensive linemen from Frank Garcia getting a
- 5:57Speaker 6: call here at some point.
- 5:58Speaker 4: Oh, geez. Frank, I love you, man, but I don't
- 6:01Speaker 4: need to see you on that field, baby. I do
- 6:02Speaker 4: not need to see it. So is there anything else
- 6:05Speaker 4: you're feeling good about Bryce? The idea of running it
- 6:09Speaker 4: a little bit more, trying to run it early, the
- 6:11Speaker 4: idea of quick passing game, anything else bone we feel
- 6:15Speaker 4: good about, or is this going to be a segment
- 6:17Speaker 4: where the worries are going to outweigh the confidence?
- 6:20Speaker 6: I mean, he had a quiet game as did the
- 6:23Speaker 6: entire offense. Can we Can we get a big T-Mac
- 6:26Speaker 6: game going here? Can we get another outstanding performance with T-Mac?
- 6:29Speaker 6: The reason they beat the Lions is because he had
- 6:31Speaker 6: an all-time day. Can we get him going here, Mac,
- 6:35Speaker 6: in this game? He had 86 against the Eagles. He
- 6:39Speaker 6: had 40 last week. Can we get T-Mac over 100
- 6:41Speaker 6: yards in this game? That would be huge because– Are
- 6:44Speaker 6: you saying you feel good about it? Yeah, I think so.
- 6:47Speaker 6: I think there will be a move to get him
- 6:50Speaker 6: involved like it was in the Lions game. Coker kind
- 6:52Speaker 6: of worries me right now because he's been so banged
- 6:54Speaker 6: up along the way here. It's like it's hit or
- 6:56Speaker 6: miss on him right now.
- 6:57Speaker 4: He's good to go. He's going to play. But, yeah,
- 6:59Speaker 4: it would be nice to get both those guys going.
- 7:02Speaker 4: Brandon Cisse is a rookie starting corner. He of NC
- 7:06Speaker 4: State and South Carolina both. So two local fan bases
- 7:09Speaker 4: know him well. They really are giving him props. For
- 7:13Speaker 4: how he's playing as a rookie, he's improving every week
- 7:15Speaker 4: type thing. He has given up 21 catches and 14
- 7:18Speaker 4: yards a catch. So when he's given up catches, Bone,
- 7:22Speaker 4: there's been some big plays there. So I wonder if
- 7:24Speaker 4: you can try. Again, I know they're going to pick
- 7:26Speaker 4: on our corners, and we'll get to that, I'm sure,
- 7:28Speaker 4: when we talk about what we're worried about. But can
- 7:32Speaker 4: you pick on Cisse, whether it's TMAC or Coker in
- 7:36Speaker 4: this game?
- 7:36Speaker 3: I also think bootlegs. Get some bootlegs going. Get Bryce.
- 7:40Speaker 4: Move Bryce forward. I don't feel like they moved Bryce
- 7:43Speaker 4: enough last week. Moved Bryce so he's not a sitting duck.
- 7:46Speaker 4: I feel good. You talk about feeling good about Bryce.
- 7:48Speaker 4: I believe Bryce is not going to get caught with
- 7:51Speaker 4: the ball and sack like he was last week.
- 7:54Speaker 3: That was uncharacteristic.
- 7:56Speaker 4: He had been a really good pressure to sack rate quarterback.
- 7:58Speaker 4: That means low amount of his, and I'm explaining for
- 8:02Speaker 4: Dan Orlovsky out there, Bone, low amount of his pressure
- 8:06Speaker 4: is actually result in sacks. Well, last week it was
- 8:08Speaker 4: the opposite. It was a high amount of his pressures
- 8:11Speaker 4: that resulted in sacks. I expect him to have the
- 8:13Speaker 4: head on the swivel and start making plays under pressure again.
- 8:17Speaker 6: Mac, I expect some points to be scored in this
- 8:20Speaker 6: game on both sides, and we went through this yesterday.
- 8:24Speaker 6: Green Bay is 24th in the league on third downs allowed,
- 8:29Speaker 6: so they're not great on third down, 44%. Red zone
- 8:32Speaker 6: scoring touchdown percentage, 68% of the time teams are scoring
- 8:36Speaker 6: touchdowns in the red zone. And I say that because
- 8:39Speaker 6: it goes into your sometimes theory about getting the sevens
- 8:43Speaker 6: versus the threes. There might be some times here in
- 8:46Speaker 6: this game where you may have to go for the
- 8:49Speaker 6: touchdown more so than settle for a field goal because
- 8:52Speaker 6: you're going against Jordan Love who may take advantage of
- 8:54Speaker 6: your secondary. I think an aggressive, not overly aggressive, but
- 8:59Speaker 6: strategically aggressive Canales tonight and taking some chances might be important.
- 9:03Speaker 4: It's not like the Eagle game where you say, it's
- 9:06Speaker 4: more like the Lions game. It's not like the Eagle
- 9:07Speaker 4: game where I liked when they punted. Because, hey, you
- 9:11Speaker 4: know what I mean? You got that team shut down.
- 9:13Speaker 4: This is a game like the Rams game last year
- 9:15Speaker 4: where we not only went for it on fourth down,
- 9:17Speaker 4: we hit two large touchdown passes on fourth down in
- 9:20Speaker 4: the Rams win.
- 9:21Speaker 6: So, yeah, I kind of see your point. You could
- 9:23Speaker 6: settle for a field goal tonight and Jordan will have
- 9:25Speaker 6: three passes. They're all of a sudden in the red
- 9:27Speaker 6: zone down there. So you got to I mean, I'm
- 9:29Speaker 6: not saying you go like wild, but this is a
- 9:31Speaker 6: game where, yeah, I'd like to see him play that
- 9:34Speaker 6: aggressive style more.
- 9:35Speaker 4: Tommy says, I noticed I noticed no one has said
- 9:39Speaker 4: they feel good about anything on defense yet. Yeah, I
- 9:44Speaker 4: feel like there's going to be some worries on defense.
- 9:46Speaker 4: I will say this. I will, and I am far
- 9:49Speaker 4: from locking it in, guaranteeing it, Bone, and betting the college,
- 9:53Speaker 4: the kid's college fund on it. I just feel like
- 9:59Speaker 4: we will probably do a good job against the run.
- 10:02Speaker 4: Now I understand some people might be laughing bone at that. Well,
- 10:06Speaker 4: they've not been gutted every single game this year. In between,
- 10:09Speaker 4: in between the bears, 291 yards rushing. And the Bucs,
- 10:18Speaker 4: 250 yards rushing, we did not give up 100 yards
- 10:21Speaker 4: to any team for four straight games. And that includes B.
- 10:25Speaker 4: John Robinson and Jameer Gibbs on the field during two
- 10:27Speaker 4: different games. That is the worst run offense in the NFL.
- 10:31Speaker 4: They have two starting interior linemen out. With the starters
- 10:34Speaker 4: in there, they could not block Boney in the run game.
- 10:37Speaker 4: I feel like Jordan Love, to now segue to the fears,
- 10:41Speaker 4: I feel like Jordan Love and his wideouts are more
- 10:44Speaker 4: of the fear than the run game is, Boney.
- 10:49Speaker 6: It's one of those weird things. I actually, Matt, don't
- 10:51Speaker 6: mind it if they run the ball a little bit
- 10:53Speaker 6: tonight because it's that old weird theory. that it takes
- 10:56Speaker 6: the ball out of Jordan Love's hands. So at times,
- 10:59Speaker 6: if they do run it and have some success, and
- 11:01Speaker 6: it's not Jordan Love picking up yards in a chunk,
- 11:04Speaker 6: because it's the equivalent of what we talked about yesterday. Hey,
- 11:07Speaker 6: if it's Tucker Kraft over the middle on some catches underneath, well,
- 11:11Speaker 6: if they're running the ball... To me, the biggest fear
- 11:13Speaker 6: is those speedy wideouts down the field.
- 11:16Speaker 3: If Josh Jacobs.
- 11:17Speaker 6: Is running the ball and it's not Jordan Love, that's
- 11:19Speaker 6: not actually the worst thing in the world.
- 11:21Speaker 4: That's the point I brought up. And it slows them
- 11:23Speaker 4: down a little bit. Big plays to the wideouts is
- 11:25Speaker 4: the biggest concern. They are a deep passing team, and
- 11:28Speaker 4: those two dudes are lethal. Now, we still don't know
- 11:31Speaker 4: if Golden's going to play. He is questionable for this game.
- 11:34Speaker 4: What's up, Fit Dog?
- 11:35Speaker 7: I was just going to say, that's the point I
- 11:36Speaker 7: brought up when I was on radio in Green Bay
- 11:39Speaker 7: on Tuesday. As bad as the run defense can be
- 11:42Speaker 7: for us, and there's no denying it can be bad,
- 11:45Speaker 7: I would much rather Green Bay want to try to
- 11:47Speaker 7: attack us through the ground. Because if Jordan Love stands
- 11:50Speaker 7: back there, Mac, and we don't have a pass rush,
- 11:52Speaker 7: and they just keep challenging us vertically down the field...
- 11:55Speaker 7: At some point, our back end is going to break
- 11:57Speaker 7: because of how beat up we are.
- 11:58Speaker 3: And you don't want your back end to break. You
- 12:00Speaker 3: know what I mean? Never. Really, either in front, back.
- 12:03Speaker 3: You don't want either end to break. I don't want
- 12:05Speaker 3: anything breaking, honestly. That is fair. It'd be different.
- 12:08Speaker 7: Even if we had Mike Jack or JC Horn, there
- 12:11Speaker 7: wouldn't be that level of fear.
- 12:12Speaker 3: But down both those guys?
- 12:14Speaker 7: Yeah, let Matt LaFleur want to try to run the ball.
- 12:17Speaker 3: And maybe try to shorten the game.
- 12:19Speaker 7: Because I think that plays into the way we want
- 12:21Speaker 7: to play this game on the road, knowing that our
- 12:22Speaker 7: defense is compromised.
- 12:23Speaker 6: It's that old Belichick theory, Matt, we talked about a
- 12:25Speaker 6: couple weeks ago against the Bills in the Super Bowl
- 12:27Speaker 6: where they wanted Thurman Thomas to run it because it
- 12:30Speaker 6: slowed them down and it took away the passing game.
- 12:32Speaker 4: It wasn't in a rhythm. So it's a weird thing sometimes. Well,
- 12:34Speaker 4: this one's way different because we want the worst rushing
- 12:37Speaker 4: team in.
- 12:37Speaker 3: The league to run it. You know what I mean?
- 12:39Speaker 4: They wanted a great back to run it. But I
- 12:42Speaker 4: understand what you're saying.
- 12:44Speaker 3: But yeah, I would.
- 12:45Speaker 4: Jordan Love is... They're fifth in passing. They're 32nd in rushing.
- 12:49Speaker 4: So I'm going to put... What happened Sunday aside, and
- 12:53Speaker 4: I'm going to say, please run it with your crappy
- 12:55Speaker 4: running attack. But this game is a resistible force meets
- 13:00Speaker 4: the movable object situation. The Packers run game is the
- 13:04Speaker 4: resistible force. Our defensive against the run is the movable object.
- 13:09Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it.
- 13:11Speaker 3: Let's see.
- 13:12Speaker 4: Someone wants 50 mile per hour wins tonight. That was
- 13:14Speaker 4: part of the win last year when we went in there.
- 13:17Speaker 4: The run game was part of the win last year.
- 13:19Speaker 2: That's right.
- 13:19Speaker 4: So I'd like to see, I know we don't have Rico,
- 13:21Speaker 4: but Chuba's running pretty damn well. I'd like to see
- 13:23Speaker 4: them try to recreate the run game from last year.
- 13:27Speaker 4: But also the wind's bone really affected the passing in
- 13:30Speaker 4: that game. Remember, Bryce had a pass into the end zone,
- 13:33Speaker 4: ended up being a pick. The wind took it. But
- 13:35Speaker 4: Jordan Love also tried to go deep and Mary picked
- 13:37Speaker 4: him off. Ball got caught in the wind, too. Yeah,
- 13:39Speaker 4: five to 12 mile per hour winds tonight in the game. Ooh,
- 13:42Speaker 4: that's not enough. That's not enough wind for us tonight, man.
- 13:45Speaker 4: I was hoping I would have said like 65. Oh, God, seriously. 704-570-9610.
- 13:52Speaker 4: John says, the fact that Mac's not worried about turnovers
- 13:54Speaker 4: tonight shows he don't know ball. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
- 13:59Speaker 4: I don't know ball, yeah. Tampa Bay, number one in
- 14:03Speaker 4: turnovers forced in a league, number one in interceptions. And
- 14:06Speaker 4: when I just watched the Panthers turn it over four times, Bone,
- 14:09Speaker 4: I can't tell you that I fully believe we're going
- 14:12Speaker 4: to protect the football. I think Bryce will protect it better.
- 14:16Speaker 4: He protected it really well for five games and didn't
- 14:18Speaker 4: for one. So I, despite the pressure he was under
- 14:22Speaker 4: in those first five games too, so my gut would
- 14:24Speaker 4: tell me Bryce protects the football, but... Green Bay's got
- 14:27Speaker 4: a knack for forcing turnovers. But, yeah, we can't– this
- 14:30Speaker 4: goes back to the recipe idea of yesterday, the formula formula.
- 14:35Speaker 4: You can't hand them the ball. If you hand Jordan
- 14:37Speaker 4: Love the ball, Bone, give him short fields, we're in trouble.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Big time trouble. Max Celebrity Text here. Let me know
- 14:43Speaker 4: how the game goes. I may be sleeping during this one. Sincerely,
- 14:47Speaker 4: Al Michaels.
- 14:48Speaker 3: Wake up, Al.
- 14:49Speaker 6: We ain't going to keep you entertained, Al. We don't
- 14:52Speaker 6: need Kirk and Peter Herbstreit on the call together tonight.
- 14:55Speaker 6: Do you think we keep Al entertained tonight, Bone? Do
- 14:58Speaker 6: you think it's an entertaining game?
- 14:59Speaker 3: Yes, there's going to be points. Yeah, I think it'll
- 15:01Speaker 3: be all right.
- 15:01Speaker 4: Y'all think like a lot of points? It's not 16-13
- 15:06Speaker 4: of last year. I think it'll be all right. Sometimes
- 15:09Speaker 4: you don't know.
- 15:09Speaker 6: Him and Gus Johnson both can be moody during games
- 15:13Speaker 6: where we don't know how they're going to act. But
- 15:15Speaker 6: tonight I think we're going to get fresh out. He's
- 15:17Speaker 6: going to have some brats and some sausages. I think
- 15:21Speaker 6: it'll be all right tonight.
- 15:21Speaker 7: I'm leaning like 27-23. Just got to figure out who
- 15:24Speaker 7: I'm picking to win this game.
- 15:25Speaker 3: I know.
- 15:26Speaker 4: You got to figure that out because that's a tough
- 15:28Speaker 4: call for you, Finney. Look at the big grin on
- 15:30Speaker 4: Panther Finney's face over there. Come on, Tiny. This is
- 15:33Speaker 4: what I'm battling today. There's a part of me that
- 15:39Speaker 4: thinks that I know this Panther team, and they are
- 15:41Speaker 4: a hard one to figure out.
- 15:42Speaker 3: Right?
- 15:43Speaker 4: They are there all over the place. But it does feel,
- 15:46Speaker 4: and I think a lot of us feel this way, right?
- 15:48Speaker 4: That it is the type of game that we have
- 15:51Speaker 4: rose up and won recently. Detroit is the latest example
- 15:54Speaker 4: of this. And then obviously last year, I didn't realize
- 15:58Speaker 4: until yesterday, the exact same week we were in Lambeau
- 16:01Speaker 4: last year. And we were blown out by 30 the
- 16:03Speaker 4: week before at home to Buffalo. And we went on
- 16:06Speaker 4: the road and got the win.
- 16:07Speaker 3: So I like....
- 16:10Speaker 4: I'm pretty certain, Bone, that it's going to be a
- 16:12Speaker 4: tight game, and we are going to play exponentially better
- 16:16Speaker 4: than last week.
- 16:17Speaker 3: How could you play worse?
- 16:18Speaker 4: But I also just don't know, like, are we really
- 16:21Speaker 4: going to win, or is it just going to be
- 16:23Speaker 4: a performance where we're like, damn, that was a tough
- 16:25Speaker 4: one to lose, but at least the boys.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Showed fight and played better. I don't know which way
- 16:30Speaker 3: it goes.
- 16:31Speaker 6: It may benefit the Packers, too, but I think the
- 16:33Speaker 6: quick turnaround on the Panthers' side definitely helps them out.
- 16:36Speaker 6: that they don't have to stew on it for longer
- 16:38Speaker 6: than they want to. That game can be forgotten about
- 16:41Speaker 6: so fast, being the Tampa Bay game, that I think
- 16:43Speaker 6: the Thursday game actually benefits them mentally just to be
- 16:47Speaker 6: able to bury that one as quick as possible.
- 16:49Speaker 3: I think so.
- 16:49Speaker 6: If they had a couple more days, it might be like, man,
- 16:51Speaker 6: it feels like it's been forever since we last played
- 16:54Speaker 6: to get that feeling out of our system. I think
- 16:56Speaker 6: that probably helps. The fact that they're playing so quickly,
- 16:58Speaker 6: that's a benefit, I think, for the Panthers. I think
- 16:59Speaker 6: that's a good point.
- 17:00Speaker 4: Jerry from Harrisburg says it's got to be run to
- 17:02Speaker 4: win as the O-line can't protect. Yeah, could we finally
- 17:07Speaker 4: see the run to set up the pass game plan?
- 17:11Speaker 4: Could we finally see them come out and say, let's
- 17:13Speaker 4: commit to the run. When we're passing, like I said,
- 17:16Speaker 4: let's get it out quick. RPOs, stuff like that, like
- 17:19Speaker 4: we did with Detroit. And then that brings people up, Bone,
- 17:24Speaker 4: and then we hit them downfield. I wouldn't mind.
- 17:27Speaker 3: Seeing them attempt to finally say we are going to
- 17:30Speaker 3: run it at the start of this game for a change.
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- 17:47Speaker 6: Brandon Miller balls out, but the Hornets fall to Detroit.
- 17:51Speaker 6: The bigger story, though, might be Nas Reed benched in
- 17:55Speaker 6: the second half. People are talking about it. What actually
- 17:59Speaker 6: went on here? We're trying to figure that out. Sports Radio,
- 18:01Speaker 6: 92.7 WFNZ.
- 18:24Speaker 3: We didn't see Nas Reed play in the second.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Can you tell us what went behind that decision?
- 18:28Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, unfortunately, you know, Nas didn't meet our
- 18:32Speaker 1: standards in the first half. And at halftime, we made
- 18:34Speaker 1: a decision that he wouldn't play in the second half.
- 18:36Speaker 1: But I look forward to him meeting those standards come
- 18:39Speaker 1: next game.
- 18:42Speaker 4: Charles Lee, Hornets head coach, telling Shannon Spake on the
- 18:45Speaker 4: postgame show on the Hornets television network last night why
- 18:49Speaker 4: we did not see Nas Reed for the second half
- 18:53Speaker 4: of this basketball game. The broadcast had no answers. I'm
- 18:57Speaker 4: sure everybody's what you brought up a good point, too,
- 18:59Speaker 4: that I didn't even think of. He was sick. on
- 19:03Speaker 4: the injury report with an illness on Monday but played.
- 19:06Speaker 4: So you thought, oh, is he sick again?
- 19:09Speaker 3: Nope. Charles Lee told you right there what the hell
- 19:11Speaker 3: was going on.
- 19:12Speaker 6: And they're protective of injury information. So I thought maybe
- 19:15Speaker 6: they're just not saying anything about whatever it may be.
- 19:17Speaker 6: He's sitting right there, so it can't be too bad.
- 19:19Speaker 6: I did not see, based off of this point in
- 19:23Speaker 6: the season and the reputation of Nas Reid and who
- 19:26Speaker 6: he is and how beloved he is in Minnesota, I
- 19:29Speaker 6: wouldn't have never guessed that this was a– a punishment
- 19:33Speaker 6: for not meeting standards. I know you didn't either, but
- 19:37Speaker 6: I never would have guessed that was going on there.
- 19:38Speaker 6: I never would have thought that would be a thing
- 19:40Speaker 6: that would occur with him as a player. He was
- 19:42Speaker 6: under the weather, not feeling right, so we just didn't
- 19:44Speaker 6: want to put him out. I did not see this coming.
- 19:46Speaker 6: All right, so we're getting a bunch of text about it.
- 19:50Speaker 8: This.
- 19:50Speaker 4: It is overwhelmingly against Charles Lee early on on the
- 19:54Speaker 4: text line. And I find that very interesting because I
- 20:00Speaker 4: thought this town wanted our coaches to be hard asses.
- 20:03Speaker 4: Like I thought our town bone thought, honestly, before last night,
- 20:09Speaker 4: I thought they grouped Charles Lee in with Dave Canales
- 20:12Speaker 4: and said, our coaches are just too damn nice. When
- 20:15Speaker 4: are they going to hold someone accountable? So I just,
- 20:18Speaker 4: it's very, again, I think it basically comes down to,
- 20:21Speaker 4: we lost the game and fans aren't going to like
- 20:24Speaker 4: whatever the approach is bone.
- 20:26Speaker 3: If the game was lost.
- 20:28Speaker 4: But I just want to point out, y'all, is it
- 20:30Speaker 4: the worst thing in the world that we have a
- 20:32Speaker 4: coach that is holding somebody accountable? I didn't think Nasri
- 20:36Speaker 4: was the sort of guy we had to worry about
- 20:37Speaker 4: this either. And I know the play bone that they
- 20:40Speaker 4: showed on social media, that doesn't look like anybody should
- 20:44Speaker 4: be benched for that. But, and after that play, they
- 20:48Speaker 4: have the video of Charles Lee giving him the business
- 20:50Speaker 4: about something. But I'm going to respect the fact that
- 20:56Speaker 4: actually we have standards because there were plenty of times
- 20:59Speaker 4: we didn't have a standard to hold players to, Bo,
- 21:01Speaker 4: in this organization. So the fact that we have a standard,
- 21:04Speaker 4: and then secondly, I'm going to appreciate the fact that
- 21:07Speaker 4: Charles Lee is coaching.
- 21:08Speaker 3: And you brought this up earlier.
- 21:10Speaker 4: Nas Reed already looked like he responded to it because
- 21:13Speaker 4: he was over there being the greatest teammate in history
- 21:15Speaker 4: of basketball.
- 21:15Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.
- 21:16Speaker 4: Over there cheering for everybody, dapping everybody up. It almost
- 21:19Speaker 4: made me think he might have gotten the message.
- 21:22Speaker 6: Already felt like it just just watching look i'll repeat
- 21:25Speaker 6: what i said hour number one that i don't think
- 21:28Speaker 6: that charles lee's first incident or whatever you want to
- 21:32Speaker 6: call it with Nas Reed would lead to a benching.
- 21:35Speaker 6: I don't think it would be in that circumstance. You're
- 21:37Speaker 6: beating one of the best teams in the league. He's
- 21:40Speaker 6: having a good night. You're trying to win as many
- 21:42Speaker 6: games as possible without two starters already. The game was
- 21:47Speaker 6: right there. I don't think there was a little back
- 21:49Speaker 6: and forth. And Charles Lee said, you're not playing the
- 21:51Speaker 6: second half. There has to be.
- 21:54Speaker 3: And I don't know.
- 21:55Speaker 6: But there has to be something that led up to that.
- 21:58Speaker 6: Was there a previous thing at a practice in the
- 22:00Speaker 6: locker room? Was there a, it was not as we
- 22:03Speaker 6: told before, don't do this. We're going to sit you
- 22:06Speaker 6: down there. I don't think Charles Lee's Mac first thing
- 22:08Speaker 6: would be, I'm not playing you. There had to be
- 22:11Speaker 6: a lead up to that based off the circumstances. We
- 22:14Speaker 6: don't know what it was, but I don't think benching
- 22:17Speaker 6: was the first thing that Charles Lee thought of. There
- 22:19Speaker 6: was something prior to that. I promise you. I just
- 22:22Speaker 6: don't know what it was.
- 22:23Speaker 4: You would think, although it's been such a short period
- 22:25Speaker 4: of time, you know what I mean? It's like, how
- 22:27Speaker 4: could he have gotten in the doghouse that quickly? But yeah,
- 22:31Speaker 4: it's like, I saw that clip that everybody's 22.
- 22:33Speaker 6: Because I don't think Charles Lee's going to sacrifice, because
- 22:35Speaker 6: basically you... You kind of sacrificed a win there based
- 22:39Speaker 6: off circumstances. I don't know if Charles Lee would do
- 22:41Speaker 6: that just on a whim. There had to be something
- 22:44Speaker 6: else there that made him do that. Whatever it is,
- 22:47Speaker 6: it's a big deal to Charles Lee.
- 22:49Speaker 4: Because, yes, now people are acting like it was a
- 22:51Speaker 4: guarantee if Nas Reed plays, we win that basketball game.
- 22:54Speaker 3: I would like to change that narrative.
- 22:56Speaker 4: Like, but I understand the frustration of people who are like,
- 22:59Speaker 4: we got a chance to beat a really good Detroit
- 23:00Speaker 4: team on the road. We're up by seven points and
- 23:03Speaker 4: Nas Reed doesn't play. And it's one, and I get it.
- 23:07Speaker 4: I get it. I know exactly what y'all are thinking.
- 23:09Speaker 4: Khan's out. Kobe's out. Those are two of our best scores.
- 23:13Speaker 4: Nas Reed has already had to take on a role
- 23:16Speaker 4: as basically the number two scorer bone to Brandon.
- 23:20Speaker 3: And then you take him out too.
- 23:22Speaker 4: It's no coincidence our offense really struggled in the second
- 23:25Speaker 4: half of that game. 14 turnovers the second half, by
- 23:27Speaker 4: the way, was pathetic. But anyway, I understand what you're saying.
- 23:30Speaker 4: And then also another guy that's out is the guy
- 23:32Speaker 4: that would have gone in. If you benched Nas Reed
- 23:34Speaker 4: and he's healthy, Grant Williams would have started the second half.
- 23:37Speaker 3: Right. If he's healthy, I'm pretty damn positive about that.
- 23:40Speaker 4: Instead, he had to go smaller and start Royce O'Neal.
- 23:43Speaker 4: So I do understand why y'all are upset. I just,
- 23:46Speaker 4: I need to say this now because this texture says
- 23:49Speaker 4: no game is worth proving a point. Y'all I missed
- 23:52Speaker 4: the fact that we were in game five of a two,
- 23:55Speaker 4: two NBA, uh, Eastern conference finals. Like y'all are treating
- 23:59Speaker 4: this game. Like this is the most important game in
- 24:02Speaker 4: the history of basketball. And I just don't understand it.
- 24:06Speaker 4: It is a basket one out of 82.
- 24:09Speaker 3: It's a basketball game in freaking October.
- 24:12Speaker 4: I'm going to say that if he views bone, sacrificing, hey,
- 24:17Speaker 4: we might lose this game, but it's worth it to
- 24:20Speaker 4: prove a point to Nas.
- 24:21Speaker 3: And y'all remember this, when you do.
- 24:23Speaker 4: This sort of thing as a coach, it ain't just
- 24:25Speaker 4: a message to the guy you're doing it to. It's
- 24:28Speaker 4: a message to everybody about the standard. Because people look
- 24:33Speaker 4: at that and say, damn, he just sat Nas down.
- 24:37Speaker 4: Wonder what he'd do to me.
- 24:39Speaker 3: We have a coach setting a standard here for this team.
- 24:43Speaker 4: Maybe it is more important than winning a damn game
- 24:46Speaker 4: in October when you play 82. Because here's the thing.
- 24:49Speaker 6: If there has been problems or whatever's going on or
- 24:51Speaker 6: whatever the issue was last night that led to this,
- 24:54Speaker 6: Charles Lee's trying to get ahead of that. He sees
- 24:57Speaker 6: something going on or there is something going on that
- 25:00Speaker 6: he doesn't like, that's affecting stuff, whatever it may be.
- 25:04Speaker 6: He's thinking, I'd rather get ahead of this right now
- 25:07Speaker 6: and we can make up a game. It's October 28th, yesterday, 29th, today.
- 25:12Speaker 6: I can't let this thing seep in to November or
- 25:15Speaker 6: later on in the year. I think a good coach, Mac,
- 25:17Speaker 6: foresees issues. before they affect the whole operation. So Charles
- 25:22Speaker 6: Lee and the staff, they saw something they didn't like.
- 25:25Speaker 6: They said, we got to get ahead of this before
- 25:28Speaker 6: it permeates the whole entire team. Now, with that said,
- 25:30Speaker 6: it is still very hard for me to understand in
- 25:33Speaker 6: five games as a Hornet, what Nas Reed could have
- 25:39Speaker 6: done that made Charles Lee take that drastic action. Like,
- 25:42Speaker 6: it is very hard for me to think about that
- 25:46Speaker 6: and to understand.
- 25:46Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's shocking, honestly.
- 25:49Speaker 4: It is really hard to understand, but I respect what
- 25:53Speaker 4: he is doing. I do respect what he is trying
- 25:56Speaker 4: to do here. 704-570-9610. App State Steve says it's Cam
- 26:01Speaker 4: and the tie incident all over again. The difference there
- 26:05Speaker 4: is you only play 17 in the NFL, and back
- 26:07Speaker 4: then you only played 16. So, like, you sacrifice an
- 26:12Speaker 4: NFL game to prove a point, I might not support you.
- 26:17Speaker 6: That was a GM rule that he broke, too. Rivera
- 26:20Speaker 6: got stuck in the middle of that, right? Yeah, yeah,
- 26:23Speaker 6: it sounds like it. Well, Rivera's like, I kind of
- 26:25Speaker 6: don't want to do this, but I kind of have to. But, like,
- 26:27Speaker 6: you get what I'm saying, Bo?
- 26:29Speaker 4: Yes. Like an NFL game. Like then I would go
- 26:31Speaker 4: with y'all's argument about sacrifice in a game at one
- 26:34Speaker 4: out of 82. I don't I don't know if that
- 26:36Speaker 4: argument works.
- 26:37Speaker 3: All right. So let's also Charles Lee. Very honest in
- 26:40Speaker 3: what he said. Also, he could have. Oh, he wanted
- 26:42Speaker 3: it out there.
- 26:43Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 26:43Speaker 6: He could have danced around that and done a coaching
- 26:45Speaker 6: where he said, we just went with this group or whatever.
- 26:48Speaker 3: Blah, blah, blah.
- 26:49Speaker 6: No, he went directly to the to the. Not the
- 26:52Speaker 6: info of what happened, but he just told you, oh,
- 26:54Speaker 6: this wasn't health.
- 26:55Speaker 3: This wasn't injury. He didn't just want him benched. He
- 26:57Speaker 3: wanted the whole world to know that he didn't meet
- 26:59Speaker 3: the standard.
- 27:00Speaker 4: He used the media to then, you know what I mean,
- 27:04Speaker 4: punish him in a way even more. I find it interesting, though,
- 27:08Speaker 4: because Charles Lee has never done this. He has never
- 27:11Speaker 4: called out a player like that after a benching. And
- 27:14Speaker 4: I bring up LaMelo because when he benched LaMelo, Bone,
- 27:18Speaker 4: it was different because It was for a few minutes
- 27:20Speaker 4: and it only happened like two or three games to
- 27:22Speaker 4: my recollection where he like sat him down, whether it
- 27:26Speaker 4: was shot selection or turnovers and just felt like we're
- 27:29Speaker 4: better with him off the floor. I don't think it
- 27:31Speaker 4: was like an attitude thing or anything, but like he also,
- 27:34Speaker 4: after the game did what you just said, he downplayed it. Well,
- 27:38Speaker 4: I just liked that unit and the way they were playing.
- 27:40Speaker 4: So this is a, this is different for Charles Lee,
- 27:42Speaker 4: but like, I appreciate this. I didn't know, really know
- 27:45Speaker 4: Charles Lee had this in his bag. I didn't know
- 27:48Speaker 4: he had this club in his bag. And he took
- 27:50Speaker 4: that club and hit Nasri with it last night. But
- 27:52Speaker 4: I didn't know he had this sit a very important
- 27:55Speaker 4: player down for a whole half and then tell Shannon
- 27:58Speaker 4: Spake exactly what the problem, like, you know what I mean?
- 28:00Speaker 3: He has not been like this.
- 28:02Speaker 4: And somebody finally texted it in, said Coach Canales needs
- 28:05Speaker 4: to learn from Coach Lee. And I appreciate that text
- 28:08Speaker 4: because that's keeping it real. Because some of y'all are
- 28:10Speaker 4: the same texters that get on Canales for being Mr.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Nice Guy. But Charles Lee goes hard ass and y'all
- 28:16Speaker 3: got a problem with that. I don't understand.
- 28:18Speaker 6: I think people have a problem with anything that coaches
- 28:20Speaker 6: do sometimes. I think it doesn't matter.
- 28:21Speaker 3: In a loss.
- 28:22Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't matter. That's what it comes down to. Mac,
- 28:24Speaker 6: I have a problem with one of your guys on
- 28:26Speaker 6: the text line 704-5709-610. That would be Guy Dorfmeister.
- 28:28Speaker 5: No!
- 28:32Speaker 6: Not just saying that. Not the lovable guy, Dorfmeister. No,
- 28:35Speaker 6: he's not lovable. This is Homer Radio, he says. Never
- 28:39Speaker 6: go against the organization.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Hey, Guy.
- 28:41Speaker 3: I'm just telling you how to say it, man. I
- 28:43Speaker 3: know you've been listening your whole life.
- 28:45Speaker 6: Did you not hear us go after the team during
- 28:48Speaker 6: the whole MJ run? Have you not heard us go
- 28:50Speaker 6: after draft choices we didn't want before? Have you not
- 28:52Speaker 6: heard us go off before on the Hornets during about
- 28:55Speaker 6: a 20, 25-year period of time? Get out of here
- 28:57Speaker 6: with that nonsense. I'm the one that we were going
- 29:00Speaker 6: nuts with that draft of Brandon Miller.
- 29:02Speaker 3: I didn't want him.
- 29:02Speaker 6: Now look at me over here. I'm just saying, don't
- 29:05Speaker 6: act like it's been all Homer radio during all these
- 29:07Speaker 6: Bobcats and Hornets years.
- 29:08Speaker 3: Get out of here, Guy Dorfmeister.
- 29:13Speaker 4: That's nonsense. How do you yell at a guy who's
- 29:15Speaker 4: named Guy Dorfmeister? Well, I felt good about it.
- 29:17Speaker 3: With a straight face. Homer Radio.
- 29:18Speaker 6: We've been ripping the team for a long time. Get
- 29:20Speaker 6: out of that bowl stuff. Guy Dorfmeister. I'm telling you
- 29:25Speaker 6: how I see it. I'm telling you how I see it, bro.
- 29:28Speaker 6: If you don't like it, that's fine. That's why we're
- 29:30Speaker 6: doing sports. How about you sit out the second half
- 29:32Speaker 6: of the show, Guy?
- 29:33Speaker 4: All right, um let's see here this texter says charles
- 29:38Speaker 4: lee lost us that game and that ain't cool i
- 29:41Speaker 4: would say maybe naz reed cost us that game.
- 29:46Speaker 3: That's what i would say have any of y'all ever
- 29:48Speaker 3: coached I have. It's starting to seem like some of y'all... Sorry,
- 29:54Speaker 3: I didn't mean to laugh at your coach. What are
- 29:55Speaker 3: you laughing at? I didn't mean to laugh at your coach.
- 29:57Speaker 3: I was four and five.
- 29:58Speaker 4: It just kind of seems like some of y'all don't
- 30:01Speaker 4: appreciate what a coach is doing. Now, the thing is,
- 30:04Speaker 4: we don't know exactly what he was doing. Was it
- 30:07Speaker 4: just effort? He had a 7.6 rebound game. It didn't
- 30:11Speaker 4: stick out to us. There was a clip floating around
- 30:13Speaker 4: on social media right before Charles Lee gave him the
- 30:16Speaker 4: business going into a timeout. It looked like he was
- 30:19Speaker 4: kind of loafing back after he turned the ball over, but.
- 30:23Speaker 3: There were guys back on defense to pick the ball up.
- 30:25Speaker 6: Like, I don't know. To your point, Bone, that in
- 30:28Speaker 6: its own didn't seem like it was benching. He had
- 30:32Speaker 6: a terrible shot that he missed. There's a highlight reel.
- 30:34Speaker 6: Was it a turnover or was the ball blocked or something?
- 30:37Speaker 3: Whatever it was. You don't get benched for trying to
- 30:39Speaker 3: go to the basket and not finish it.
- 30:41Speaker 6: There was a highlight reel somebody put out there, but
- 30:43Speaker 6: nothing was in there that was like, oh, my gosh,
- 30:46Speaker 6: I can't believe he did that. There were some bad plays,
- 30:49Speaker 6: but it wasn't anything that was not worth playing at all.
- 30:51Speaker 6: I just, you guys are softies, man.
- 30:53Speaker 4: Like you guys act like you're hard asses, but Charles
- 30:56Speaker 4: Lee does some good, tough, hard coaching. And you guys
- 30:59Speaker 4: are crying like babies. Like seriously, forget the tough guy
- 31:03Speaker 4: act on the text line. Every one of you, because
- 31:06Speaker 4: the truth is coming out right now. Like you don't,
- 31:08Speaker 4: you apparently don't like tough. Like, like look at a
- 31:10Speaker 4: mitt here.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Mr. Tough guy, a mitt.
- 31:13Speaker 9: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
- 31:31Speaker 9: Nas Reid can handle it, broski. He ain't little Johnny
- 31:34Speaker 9: in five-U soccer. I mean, I just, like, I really
- 31:37Speaker 9: cannot believe what I'm getting from people today.
- 31:40Speaker 4: The toughest, roughest group of texters. Dave Canale has got
- 31:44Speaker 4: to tough it up. He's just a pretty boy coach.
- 31:47Speaker 4: And you guys are out here crying for Nas Reid. Like,
- 31:51Speaker 4: Nas going to be all right, y'all. He is going
- 31:53Speaker 4: to be able to bounce back from this. Look like
- 31:55Speaker 4: he already did on the bench as he was cheering
- 31:57Speaker 4: his teammates and not sulking. You know, so, like, come on, y'all.
- 32:01Speaker 6: And sometimes there are moments within a team that need
- 32:05Speaker 6: to happen to kind of get everybody on the same page.
- 32:08Speaker 6: So we may look back on this, and by the
- 32:11Speaker 6: time we get to midseason, Matt, we may be like, oh, yeah,
- 32:13Speaker 6: remember that moment there? Maybe it's a coming together moment
- 32:16Speaker 6: that they haven't truly had yet. Did none of y'all
- 32:17Speaker 6: have a hard time? You've got to have adversity to
- 32:19Speaker 6: get better, so maybe this is part of it.
- 32:20Speaker 4: Right did none of y'all have a hard-ass coach when
- 32:22Speaker 4: you were young i bet didn't play sports did none
- 32:24Speaker 4: of bones coming after him today um did none of
- 32:28Speaker 4: y'all have dads that coached your ass is hard like
- 32:32Speaker 4: i just it's it's is this where.
- 32:33Speaker 3: We're at in the world is this the softy world
- 32:35Speaker 3: that that that that we're.
- 32:37Speaker 6: Becoming someone named little johnny said i texted it said
- 32:40Speaker 6: that's not right You went after little Johnny's out there.
- 32:42Speaker 3: Little Joey could work, too. Y'all get the point.
- 32:44Speaker 4: Poor little Johnny. Adam says little Johnny's catching straights. Right now,
- 32:48Speaker 4: Johnny's riding to school. He's like, dang, that happened to me. Anyway,
- 32:53Speaker 4: let's talk about the other angle here, Bone, that is
- 32:56Speaker 4: going on. By the way, it's not getting talked about
- 32:58Speaker 4: that Brandon Miller. I'm making everybody's last name Lee in
- 33:01Speaker 4: this segment. Brandon Miller is that effing dude. You're talking
- 33:05Speaker 4: about a guy that is playing through contact and finishing,
- 33:08Speaker 4: getting to it. He's becoming a professional scorer in front
- 33:12Speaker 4: of our very eyes. But anyway, I want to make
- 33:13Speaker 4: this point here, too, about Seon James, because we're getting
- 33:18Speaker 4: a lot of these texts. We're getting a lot of
- 33:21Speaker 4: texts with Seon James about Seon James. Why isn't he
- 33:24Speaker 4: getting benched? And they're bringing up his shooting, right? It's
- 33:27Speaker 4: been ugly.
- 33:28Speaker 3: And he is really hurting this offense.
- 33:31Speaker 4: I can't wait until the open threes bone are shot
- 33:34Speaker 4: by Conn Knipple or Kobe White or maybe even Brandon
- 33:37Speaker 4: Miller because defenses can't go all out to stop him
- 33:40Speaker 4: when we get those guys back. But Sion is getting
- 33:42Speaker 4: open look in the corner after open look in the
- 33:44Speaker 4: corner and breaking them. It's been horrible. It really hurts.
- 33:46Speaker 6: I mean, it's not even it's not even some of
- 33:48Speaker 6: these shots aren't even remotely close.
- 33:50Speaker 4: But here's the thing. I'll tell you when he gets benched,
- 33:52Speaker 4: when Conn Knipple's healthy. That's when he goes back to
- 33:54Speaker 4: what his normal role is. He is being forced to
- 33:56Speaker 4: play a role. I guess I shouldn't say being a
- 33:58Speaker 4: force because they could start Grayson Allen. But I think
- 34:00Speaker 4: they want Grayson's scoring with the bench unit. I think
- 34:03Speaker 4: that's why they're doing that. And I think they want
- 34:05Speaker 4: Seon's defense with the first unit. But like what Seon's
- 34:09Speaker 4: doing is not like an effort thing or a standards thing.
- 34:13Speaker 3: It's just he ain't hitting damn shots right now. No,
- 34:15Speaker 3: it's bad.
- 34:16Speaker 4: It's different than what Charles Lee feels like Nas did
- 34:20Speaker 4: or didn't do.
- 34:21Speaker 6: And there's a reason why he's open taking those shots.
- 34:24Speaker 6: There's no fear from the other teams. Mack, in a
- 34:26Speaker 6: perfect world, he does the intangible things well that they like,
- 34:31Speaker 6: defense and the other things outside of shooting.
- 34:35Speaker 5: I mean.
- 34:36Speaker 6: Liam McNeely is not the same player as Seon James,
- 34:38Speaker 6: but I do feel like at some point those open
- 34:41Speaker 6: corner threes, the current roster set up now, can Liam
- 34:45Speaker 6: McNeely maybe get some burn and hit some of those threes?
- 34:47Speaker 3: I'm trying to find other guys that could shoot the
- 34:49Speaker 3: ball off the bench.
- 34:50Speaker 4: He could, but then you're sacrificing on the other end.
- 34:52Speaker 4: That's the old rubber root. That's the give and take
- 34:55Speaker 4: there as well. I know Schroeder hit two or three
- 34:58Speaker 4: last night. He was the only guy in double digits
- 35:00Speaker 4: other than Brandon, so I shouldn't slander him too bad.
- 35:02Speaker 4: But Schroeder's another guy that they double-team Brandon off of.
- 35:06Speaker 3: They don't worry about.
- 35:08Speaker 4: We're going to get a backcourt eventually, Bone, where both
- 35:10Speaker 4: guys can nail those open shots.
- 35:11Speaker 6: It's going to be completely different. Christian Anderson, Mac, feels
- 35:14Speaker 6: like he's going to need some G League time as well, right?
- 35:17Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely. I would agree.
- 35:18Speaker 6: He kind of got pushed up a little bit because
- 35:20Speaker 6: of the roster, but both rookies feel like that they're...
- 35:24Speaker 6: They're kind of should be on ice right now developing.
- 35:27Speaker 6: And Anderson's playing basically out of necessity more than the
- 35:31Speaker 6: want to play him right now. Yeah, he looks uncomfortable
- 35:34Speaker 6: and unconfident, although he rose up on that fall away
- 35:37Speaker 6: from the base. I don't know how he hit that
- 35:39Speaker 6: one at the end of the shot clock, but the
- 35:40Speaker 6: turnovers are a little sloppy.
- 35:42Speaker 4: 704 says, Mac, Brandon Miller or Scoot? What is the
- 35:47Speaker 4: statute of limitations for chop busting over the men of Scoot?
- 35:51Speaker 4: And why didn't Bone get the same text? Is Walker
- 35:53Speaker 4: going to get the same text later? Because I'm fighting
- 35:55Speaker 4: guys with the last name Dorfmeister.
- 35:58Speaker 3: I'm aroused.
- 35:59Speaker 4: People are now checking in to say, Mac, I had
- 36:02Speaker 4: hard coaching in school. I appreciate it. I finally used
- 36:06Speaker 4: some rhetoric that has people like, oh, no, I like
- 36:09Speaker 4: hard coaching. I don't know if you do, though, y'all.
- 36:13Speaker 4: Don't know if you do.
- 36:14Speaker 6: My dad tells me the story of basketball when they
- 36:16Speaker 6: used to make him hang from the bleachers for as
- 36:19Speaker 6: long as they could back in the day. The back-in-the-day
- 36:23Speaker 6: stories always make me laugh. They're hanging from the... They
- 36:25Speaker 6: would have to do... You've told.
- 36:26Speaker 4: Me this before. I've never heard such a thing. Hanging
- 36:29Speaker 4: from the bleachers. That would last two seconds for me,
- 36:32Speaker 4: and my weak arms would drop me. Don't fall. You're
- 36:34Speaker 4: not getting a milkshake at the diner after practice. When
- 36:38Speaker 4: we come back on the Mac and Bone Show, sounds
- 36:41Speaker 4: of the QC. One ex-Panther tells you not to quit
- 36:45Speaker 4: on this team. An interesting question about the Panthers and
- 36:48Speaker 4: the Green Bay Presser.
- 36:50Speaker 5: And.
- 36:51Speaker 6: We have an all-time Willie P moment during last night's
- 36:56Speaker 6: FC broadcast.
- 36:57Speaker 3: Don't miss it. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFMZ.
- 37:31Speaker 6: All right.
- 37:33Speaker 4: We got to move on and have some fun because
- 37:34Speaker 4: literally some of y'all are triggering me, man.
- 37:36Speaker 3: I just I I am in literal shockbone.
- 37:39Speaker 4: How many people don't applaud a coach for sending a
- 37:42Speaker 4: damn message and standing for something and setting standards like y'all.
- 37:46Speaker 3: Have lost me, man, completely on this one. Oh, my goodness. Anyway,
- 37:52Speaker 3: if he does this in a playoff game, we can talk.
- 37:54Speaker 3: But in October.
- 37:55Speaker 6: But if Bryce Young goes 0 for 3 tonight on
- 37:58Speaker 6: the first drive, they'll lob Bryce Bench tonight. Amidst serious.
- 38:02Speaker 6: Set the standard there, Canales. So you want a standard
- 38:05Speaker 6: set for one team, but not another team. In the
- 38:07Speaker 6: same town, in the same week. It's just, again, I'll
- 38:11Speaker 6: say it again. if we lose a basketball game, people
- 38:14Speaker 6: will bitch about what the coach did.
- 38:16Speaker 3: It's that simple.
- 38:17Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if he was not a hard ass
- 38:20Speaker 4: or was a hard ass. If the game was a loss,
- 38:23Speaker 4: that approach is a problem. And I just don't think
- 38:25Speaker 4: that lacks consistency. I don't think that's, that's, that's fair.
- 38:28Speaker 4: All right. Anyway, let's have a little fun with this
- 38:30Speaker 4: segment coming up at eight o'clock bone. It is game day,
- 38:33Speaker 4: by the way, we do got to get our minds right.
- 38:35Speaker 4: We got to get back on the same team, y'all,
- 38:37Speaker 4: for tonight as the Panthers try to bounce back on
- 38:39Speaker 4: Thursday night football. Come on out and scream at me
- 38:42Speaker 4: about Charles Lee tonight at Platform Sports in South End.
- 38:46Speaker 4: Hang out with us, KB and I. KB's doing a
- 38:48Speaker 4: show there at 3, but KB and I are doing pregame.
- 38:50Speaker 4: And that's a guy in MAG with no standards. Yeah,
- 38:53Speaker 4: come on, come on.
- 38:54Speaker 3: Who? KB?
- 38:55Speaker 1: No, you.
- 38:55Speaker 7: Oh, me?
- 38:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, yeah, you've got no standards. You'll be
- 38:58Speaker 3: out there. Okay, okay.
- 38:59Speaker 4: Yeah, no standard is set here. No benchings tonight. Everybody's
- 39:02Speaker 4: going to get through the whole show tonight. All right,
- 39:04Speaker 4: let's have a little fun here with some sounds at
- 39:06Speaker 4: a QC. We'll talk about Panthers and Packers specifically coming
- 39:10Speaker 4: up at 8 o'clock. But two of these cuts are
- 39:12Speaker 4: going to apply to Panthers and Packers, and then the
- 39:15Speaker 4: final cut is going to be an amazing in-game moment
- 39:18Speaker 4: during the Charlotte FC 4-0 win last night by Willie P.
- 39:21Speaker 4: But let's start, Bone, with the handoff podcast that Jake
- 39:25Speaker 4: DeLome and Jonathan Stewart do every week for the Panthers
- 39:28Speaker 4: and Panthers.com. and this is Jake talking about bounce back
- 39:33Speaker 4: chances tonight and Jay Stu sending a message Bone to
- 39:37Speaker 4: the doubters.
- 39:38Speaker 6: It's just such a good opportunity and I love the
- 39:41Speaker 6: short week aspect of it I don't think any player
- 39:43Speaker 6: likes the short week aspect because of the.
- 39:47Speaker 3: Body getting the body ready to go in that short
- 39:50Speaker 3: a period of time. But that's the world we live in,
- 39:53Speaker 3: and it's not going to change. So we just got
- 39:54Speaker 3: to accept it, and we got to move forward with it.
- 39:56Speaker 3: And we're 3-3.
- 39:57Speaker 7: We're 3-3.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 39:59Speaker 3: We're 1-1 in division. Like, it's early.
- 40:04Speaker 6: Early.
- 40:05Speaker 3: So don't panic.
- 40:06Speaker 2: Don't hit any panic buttons.
- 40:08Speaker 7: Don't be talking bad about your Panthers because they'll bite
- 40:11Speaker 7: you in the butt.
- 40:11Speaker 3: I keep receipts.
- 40:12Speaker 2: I'll be watching you all out there.
- 40:15Speaker 3: So there you go. He's keeping receipts on the Panther
- 40:17Speaker 3: doubters right now. Jay Stu. How about that?
- 40:20Speaker 6: I'm going to put that in my nose in case
- 40:22Speaker 6: I make a Packer prediction.
- 40:24Speaker 3: Here while you're running the show. You're going to be
- 40:25Speaker 3: on the list. I don't want to get stiff-armed like
- 40:27Speaker 3: Rondé Barber.
- 40:29Speaker 6: We will see. My thoughts and prayers to Rondé Barber.
- 40:32Speaker 6: Still on the turf over there at the bank.
- 40:34Speaker 4: Listen, it's early. We're in first place. We're also really hurt.
- 40:39Speaker 4: Like that's what's got me the most worried is, you know,
- 40:42Speaker 4: D Lu and Moten both out again, the same game, icky,
- 40:46Speaker 4: nowhere near coming back. Apparently both edges out, both corners
- 40:50Speaker 4: at like the injuries are what, you know, has me
- 40:53Speaker 4: a little nervous about whether or not I Panther up tonight.
- 40:56Speaker 3: Cause it feels like a Panther up time. It feels
- 40:59Speaker 3: like a bounce back spot where people don't expect them
- 41:02Speaker 3: to do it.
- 41:03Speaker 6: It's coming off a loss. But, man, they're wounded in
- 41:06Speaker 6: the trenches. Yeah, I sense a close game. It's just
- 41:09Speaker 6: a matter of, I said earlier in the show, really,
- 41:12Speaker 6: both offensive lines are banged up, not very good right now.
- 41:16Speaker 6: What offensive line can just hold up and give their
- 41:18Speaker 6: quarterback enough time to make the plays to those.
- 41:20Speaker 3: Wideouts down the field tonight?
- 41:22Speaker 6: Casey and Mooresville. I think it's all offensive line based
- 41:24Speaker 6: on both sides of this thing. Casey and Mooresville is crazy. Yeah,
- 41:27Speaker 6: it is because they're both wounded and they both have issues.
- 41:31Speaker 6: No doubt about it.
- 41:32Speaker 4: Casey and Mooresville is hilarious. Mac, Mac just said y'all
- 41:36Speaker 4: are POS listeners, but hey, come out and hang with
- 41:39Speaker 4: us later at a restaurant.
- 41:41Speaker 3: I did not say that.
- 41:43Speaker 4: I was just upset with you guys being so bothered
- 41:46Speaker 4: by a coach doing actual coaching.
- 41:48Speaker 3: That's all. We just view it differently.
- 41:50Speaker 4: We can all get together and hang out tonight and
- 41:53Speaker 4: throw down some dang wings at platform.
- 41:55Speaker 6: I got benched a lot when I played sports and
- 41:57Speaker 6: I'm better for it. We're talking about like full seasons. Oh, man.
- 42:02Speaker 4: There's definitely a reason for that. And my parents were
- 42:04Speaker 4: happy about it. All right, let's continue with the sounds
- 42:08Speaker 4: of the QC. It's all building up, by the way,
- 42:09Speaker 4: to the greatest comic relief you're going to hear today,
- 42:12Speaker 4: which is Willie P educating Anna Witte and really a
- 42:16Speaker 4: whole town last night during Charlotte FC's win. But one
- 42:19Speaker 4: more clip. Listen to the question. Listen closely to the
- 42:24Speaker 4: question that is being asked at the start of this
- 42:26Speaker 4: clip to Matt LaFleur, Packers coach. in his presser yesterday.
- 42:31Speaker 4: Listen to how the Green Bay media member phrases it.
- 42:34Speaker 3: What do you see out of Carolina's defense when they
- 42:36Speaker 3: give up a million points in some games and almost
- 42:39Speaker 3: nothing in a couple others?
- 42:40Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a, again, I think it's a
- 42:43Speaker 5: very tough defense to go against because they're going to
- 42:47Speaker 5: try to keep a lid on you and they're going
- 42:49Speaker 5: to make you earn it. And so you've got to
- 42:50Speaker 5: be consistent with not just one person, all 11 have
- 42:55Speaker 5: got to be consistent throughout. And you've got to be
- 42:59Speaker 5: You've got to stay patient when you get your shots
- 43:02Speaker 5: to take them, and you can take them.
- 43:05Speaker 4: Hey, Coach, the Panthers seems like some weeks they give
- 43:08Speaker 4: up a million points and some they don't give up any.
- 43:10Speaker 4: And here's the thing, though. I'm just nodding my head
- 43:14Speaker 4: listening to that. I'm like, yeah, you've done your scouting,
- 43:16Speaker 4: Green Bay reporter. Yeah, that question there made you do
- 43:20Speaker 4: the Alonzo Mourning dodge, yes.
- 43:21Speaker 3: Yes, no doubt. Where you shake one way and go, oh, yeah,
- 43:24Speaker 3: you know what, probably– Really true. Have you noticed that
- 43:27Speaker 3: might be my favorite bone? Have you noticed that?
- 43:28Speaker 2: I do, I do.
- 43:29Speaker 6: You use it well, though. I feel like you don't
- 43:31Speaker 6: overuse it, and it comes out at the right time.
- 43:32Speaker 7: It's not like Sir Loin and the six GIFs he
- 43:36Speaker 7: tweets at us.
- 43:36Speaker 4: Sir Loin, you've got to get your GIF, GIF game,
- 43:39Speaker 4: meme game, whatever we call it, you've got to get
- 43:41Speaker 4: it a little more expanded, a little more variety, Loin.
- 43:44Speaker 4: Some would say you've got to get a little more variety, too,
- 43:46Speaker 4: in your score predictions. I just realized something. We don't
- 43:49Speaker 4: have a pep talker for tonight, do we? Are we
- 43:52Speaker 4: going pep talk free, or are we going Loin? Let's
- 43:55Speaker 4: get Amit on there.
- 43:55Speaker 1: Amit!
- 43:56Speaker 4: Amit, tell us why the Packers are going to win tonight. Yeah, Amit,
- 44:01Speaker 4: that's the funny thing, Amit. Do you even want the
- 44:03Speaker 4: home team to win? And you're so upset by last
- 44:04Speaker 4: night's loss. I don't even think you want the home
- 44:06Speaker 4: team to win the games. Let me go try to
- 44:07Speaker 4: find a pep talker.
- 44:08Speaker 3: Let me work on this. Or do we just go
- 44:10Speaker 3: pep talk free? I don't know. I'm pretty good. I
- 44:12Speaker 3: feel like yelling at more people. Do I just yell?
- 44:14Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 44:14Speaker 6: Someone says on the text line, Mac, you can't punt
- 44:17Speaker 6: games away in the NBA.
- 44:18Speaker 3: Excuse me.
- 44:19Speaker 6: I see a lot of that in the NBA, actually,
- 44:21Speaker 6: when guys sit out for weeks at a time.
- 44:22Speaker 3: When you sit out.
- 44:23Speaker 4: Out the whole team somebody did say we're the hornets
- 44:25Speaker 4: we can't afford to give.
- 44:26Speaker 6: Games away there's a lot there's a lot of games
- 44:28Speaker 6: in the nba that are oh well we'll just go
- 44:31Speaker 6: ahead and sit out half the team tonight it happens
- 44:33Speaker 6: folks quadsworth shortfellow wants to do the pep talk.
- 44:37Speaker 4: That's a texter on the text line. It's also an
- 44:41Speaker 4: alternative fitting nickname as well.
- 44:42Speaker 6: That doesn't feel like a name that's going to fire
- 44:44Speaker 6: up the masses. This is Quadsworth Shortfellow. All right, let's
- 44:48Speaker 6: get to the P-man here, shall we?
- 44:51Speaker 4: So Charlotte FC gets a Leal Abada hat trick off
- 44:54Speaker 4: the bench last night. That's a real good sign, man.
- 44:56Speaker 4: He's kind of lost his starting job to a loco.
- 44:59Speaker 4: but he responded when he went in there. The only
- 45:01Speaker 4: bad thing from last night, Maxie was brilliant, but he
- 45:03Speaker 4: got hurt. Got an ankle injury in the second half.
- 45:06Speaker 4: As we sit in fifth place, two points out of Chicago,
- 45:09Speaker 4: going into Orlando on Saturday. But allow Willie P to
- 45:13Speaker 4: educate and entertain at the same time, Bone. This actually
- 45:17Speaker 4: broke out on a broadcast of the Charlotte FC game
- 45:22Speaker 4: last night against Montreal.
- 45:24Speaker 3: Willie P, take it away. The waning gibbous moon.
- 45:29Speaker 8: Troops over the Bank of America skyline to our north.
- 45:33Speaker 1: How do you know? Are you into moons?
- 45:35Speaker 3: I am very into moons.
- 45:37Speaker 8: Ask my wife.
- 45:38Speaker 3: I'm very into moons.
- 45:39Speaker 1: Okay.
- 45:40Speaker 7: Or the moon, I should say.
- 45:41Speaker 1: Have you ever been to the planetarium in Chapel Hill?
- 45:43Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely.
- 45:44Speaker 9: I was going to say, that must be up your alley.
- 45:46Speaker 3: Big, big moon fan.
- 45:48Speaker 1: 77th minute.
- 45:51Speaker 3: Thrown in towards Tiger Smalls. What is this one again?
- 45:56Speaker 3: It's a waning gibbous.
- 45:58Speaker 1: Waning gibbous.
- 45:59Speaker 3: We had a full moon a.
- 46:00Speaker 8: Couple nights ago.
- 46:00Speaker 3: And how do you know it's a waning gibbous?
- 46:02Speaker 8: Because it's the end of the moon cycle as opposed
- 46:05Speaker 8: to a waxing gibbous, which is at the beginning of
- 46:06Speaker 8: the moon cycle.
- 46:07Speaker 3: Because it's evening?
- 46:09Speaker 8: No, because of where we are in the moon cycle.
- 46:11Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
- 46:12Speaker 8: Left side, weak Carmona. If you had moon cycles being
- 46:18Speaker 8: put on the broadcast today.
- 46:21Speaker 3: That shows you how this game is going. It's been
- 46:24Speaker 3: slow at times.
- 46:26Speaker 6: I thought waning gibbous was one of the players on Montreal.
- 46:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:30Speaker 6: Because he did play by playing the middle ball. I
- 46:32Speaker 6: thought Winnie Gibbets was a guy on the other team.
- 46:34Speaker 6: Sounds like a Shakespeare character.
- 46:35Speaker 4: You ain't kidding, y'all. I have never heard that term
- 46:38Speaker 4: in my life. Had no idea what he was talking about.
- 46:40Speaker 4: Anna Witte was all of us on that clip. Anna
- 46:42Speaker 4: Witte trying to figure out what the heck P is
- 46:44Speaker 4: talking about.
- 46:46Speaker 3: But I respect your game.
- 46:47Speaker 4: P-Man proudly pronouncing how in the moons he is is
- 46:51Speaker 4: also good unintentional comedy as well.
- 46:53Speaker 3: There's no way this guy wasn't shoved in lockers in
- 46:56Speaker 3: high school, right?
- 46:57Speaker 4: No.
- 46:57Speaker 7: I mean, he's a grown-ass man, and I want to
- 46:59Speaker 7: show everyone now for being so educated.
- 47:01Speaker 3: About the moon. Oh, my God. That is brilliant right there.
- 47:04Speaker 3: That's what we needed.
- 47:05Speaker 6: He also said, ask my wife how much I love moons.
- 47:07Speaker 9: I know.
- 47:08Speaker 3: Is that not hilarious? Does he even know what he's saying?
- 47:10Speaker 7: No, he doesn't.
- 47:11Speaker 3: He's so in. What is it? The waiting? Is it
- 47:16Speaker 3: waning or waiting? Waiting Gibby?
- 47:18Speaker 1: What was it called?
- 47:18Speaker 3: Waiting Gibsus or Gibbous? Welding Gibby? The Welding Gibby?
- 47:22Speaker 4: He's so into the minutia of moons that he doesn't
- 47:25Speaker 4: even realize what.
- 47:26Speaker 3: He is proclaiming. It's a waning crescent moon. Okay, there
- 47:29Speaker 3: you go, baby. No, he called it a welding gibson
- 47:31Speaker 3: or something. P-Man, I'm telling you, bro, I know you
- 47:35Speaker 3: think we get on you too much. You are one
- 47:37Speaker 3: and one, baby. The content you create is sheer brilliance.
- 47:40Speaker 7: It's the final phase of the lunar cycle, appearing as
- 47:43Speaker 7: a thin silver of light on the left side in
- 47:47Speaker 7: the northern hemisphere just before the moon turns completely dark
- 47:51Speaker 7: at the new moon.
- 47:52Speaker 3: I only go to Willie for my moon knowledge, sorry.
- 47:54Speaker 4: Professor P teaching lessons, man.
- 47:56Speaker 6: When we come back, what do fans expect tonight? Another
- 47:59Speaker 6: bounce back effort or another debacle? And do you believe
- 48:03Speaker 6: Bryce will return to form in Lambeau tonight? We ask
- 48:07Speaker 6: the audience, courtesy of QC Mechanical, next on Sports Radio
- 48:10Speaker 6: 92.7 WFNZ.