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House of Gucci - Season One Finale · The Art of Costume Podcast

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  You're going to hit the shuffle button and we're going to see
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  who was our winner. Okay.
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  Are you ready? Kari?
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  Okay. Oh my gosh.
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  I'm kind of, I feel nervous. I'm nervous too.
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  It was with hold my hand and we find already.
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  Okay. At the rainbow wheel is
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  spinning. Okay, and it says, the winner is
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  hello and welcome to the art accosting.
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  Blogcast. I'm Elizabeth Joy glass and I'm
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  Spencer Williams, Elizabeth season finale.
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  We actually did it. I can't believe it actually did
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  it. We got our together and did it.
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  It's so surreal. I can't you believe we did it.
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  I just I was feel emotional. I had so much fun.
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  This has been like a dream come true.
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  I loved every single second of it me to like because we talked
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  about it and then we just like, didn't do anything about it for
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  like six months and then we're like, okay.
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  Hey, it's let's do it. It's the easy starting to
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  podcast. Okay, but it's time consuming.
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  Yeah, but like, We've had so much fun.
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  What were some of your favorite episodes?
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  Probably. So the ones I definitely like
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  had the most fun recording were Crimson Peak and holiday.
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  Those are like, I was so into it.
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  I was so excited. I loved doing the research for
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  those. I, those are two of my
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  favorites. I also loved Crimson Peak.
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  I was just so sick during the episode Crimson Peak.
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  If you think Squad I was. I had one foot in the grave.
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  You really. Did you really did.
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  I was shocked. We made it through those.
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  I also like to Crimson Peak my favorites, probably were Dune,
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  for sure. I love Doom.
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  I was actually just reading doomed this morning.
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  So I'm hooked, right? I loved the fifth element.
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  That was a lot of fun for me. Another one that I didn't know I
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  was gonna love but actually I became really obsessed with I
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  loved Halston. That was our third episode.
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  And that was one of the favorite shows.
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  I watched in a long time. Like there was lots of fun.
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  That was a really good one that I didn't expect to enjoy, right?
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  And then also like, I was so happy to finally see Bram
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  Stoker's Dracula. I mean, it's ridiculous.
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  I never seen it before and that was so much fun.
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  Yeah. That was a really fun one.
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  Another one. I wasn't really expecting to
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  like Sticker a night but by ended up being so much fun, the
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  Green Knight. And another one of my personal
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  favorites was Space, Jam 2, a new Legacy.
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  I mean station to a new Legacy that is like one of our our very
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  best interviews. One of them.
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  It's really up there. If you want to hear a grade A
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  top-notch interview, go to our Space Jam episode.
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  It's episode 8 and it's good quality work.
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  It is We had so many good interviews.
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  Oh my gosh, right? We had so many guests.
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  The season that we when we were playing this podcast.
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  I don't think we had any guests in mind.
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  At first. We were just kind of like
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  helping people will listen, let alone have guests.
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  You know, I know you were just like, okay, I don't you.
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  Who was the first person you interviewed for this journey?
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  Honest. And wanna from Halston.
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  Yes, we have so many great guest.
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  So we just To show all them out. We had Jerry honest and one
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  Andalusia majority from pose, Megan Casper lick from mayor of
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  East Town which, you know, I love Melissa, Bruning from Space
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  Jam, a new Legacy. What?
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  What? Same a pink came by for
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  Lovecraft country Alora. Montgomery, from what we do in
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  the shadows. I mean, amazing changed our
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  lives. And then of course, the one and
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  only carry Bennett from the This holiday special, we did Carrie
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  Bennett fat. That's another top-notch
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  interview, and she will be on a little bit later to announce the
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  winner of our the office robe giveaway.
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  That's right. Oh, I can't wait.
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  We've raised quite a bit of money.
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  So I'm really proud and I'm excited to hear who the winner
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  is. So it's gonna be so nice for
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  that person. I'm so excited and I don't know.
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  Spencer. I feel like we should just we
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  should jump into Gucci. Give us give us a summary.
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  Right? So for the season finale, what's
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  that thing continue for the season finale?
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  We figured there's no better way to end the season than with the
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  house of Gucci something that we've been talking about before
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  even the podcast was a thing. So I'm so excited and that's 50.
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  See what's happening here, and there's no summary.
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  You know, I thought about doing a summary but I was like, no,
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  Spencer always makes them really fun.
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  When he does them. The him them himself.
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  They're always really fun. So, I'll just leave that blank.
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  Okay. Well, maybe maybe for this.
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  Maybe first season finale, I'm gonna make up some Rihanna spot.
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  I love this idea. I think that's great.
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  Let's see if I could do it. Give us a summary Spencer.
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  All right, actually, I don't want to do it in just a No, I've
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  got to get up. We're gonna have to go back and
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  Daniel. Okay, will tell you when we
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  record the summary. Okay, let's if I'm gonna hit us
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  with a summary, go for it, when Patricia reggiani, an outsider
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  from humble beginnings, marries into the Gucci family.
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  Her unbridled ambition, begins to unravel their legacy and
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  triggers a reckless spiral of All revenge and ultimately
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  murder and that mean I don't know how it's the summer.
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  Is House of Gucci. It's Lady Gaga.
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  Lots of fashion and there's murder involved.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  That pretty much sums it up. This won't be a super spoiied
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  episode because we were only able to go see it once in the
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  theaters, right? But uh, we won't be holding
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  anything back. So this is your spoiler warning,
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  right? Also, this is based on a true
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  story, so you should kind of I have an idea what happened
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  already. I mean, I didn't I didn't really
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  know about this until I started listening to that podcast.
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  Oh, well, if you're like, Elizabeth, never mind.
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  All right, Liz with take us behind a wardrobe.
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  Let's go behind the Wardrobe. Our director was the legendary
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  for at least, Scott and equally, legendary costume designer.
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  Jayanti Gates. Hmm, her notable work includes.
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  M, for which she won an Oscar Kingdom of Heaven.
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  Prometheus the Martian Alien, Covenant, Spencer, I know you
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  love that one her most recent film besides house a cushy which
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  also premiered this year, the last tool which I've been dying
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  to go. See but of course as soon as I
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  got to the theater, is it wasn't there anymore?
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  What the heck? I really want to see it.
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  I looked at it. I was like, this looks silly.
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  Interesting. I cannot sit in the theater for
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  that long for this movie. That was like, that was my
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  thought process with that movie. I was like, I'll just looks so
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  good and then I saw the run time and I was like, I can wait.
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  I just totally missed it. But I am a big fan of jayanti
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  eights. Everyone knows I'm a big Ridley
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  Scott nerd alien is one of my all-time favorite movies, which
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  I believe we might be talking about a little later.
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  She did Alien Covenant and Prometheus, which Part of the
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  alien that Legacy, which I love both of those movies.
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  So, dearly. Jayanti.
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  Eighths is one of my all-time favorites never met her, but I'm
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  going to make this happen soon. Definitely.
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  Should I love Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven.
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  Such a good movies. I've still never seen Gladiator,
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  it's good. It's good.
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  Your face does not look convinced.
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  Hey. Don't comment on my face anyway.
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  Auntie Yates, she has to do quite some research.
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  To put this amazing wardrobe forever, which included access
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  to the Gucci archives. She said, I got archive costumes
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  from torelli in Rome, which were endless.
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  Wonderful Yves, Saint Laurent, wonderful D, or you name it.
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  They had it. She also went to research at the
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  Gucci Museum in Florence. She said she was a regular Our
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  visitor there, but they basically transform the room and
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  there were about 15 to 20 archived pieces.
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  So she was just like all in the Gucci archives.
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  Oh my gosh, that sounds so fun. I was like dang because like I
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  just assumed, you know, they were using you know vintage
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  Gucci pieces, but they actually got them on loan.
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  They had she said we had probably 30 dresses, 20 suits,
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  10 coats. I don't know how many blouses
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  and skirts and trousers we did, but it was fantastic and they
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  were kept in a highly secure room.
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  So it's like, oh, I can only imagine how much money was in
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  that room. Right?
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  I mean, these Gucci pieces were literally, I mean, they're like,
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  artifacts, you know, and they, they're protecting their
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  artifacts. That was one thing I liked
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  about, The movie because it starts in like the late 70s,
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  early 80s, right, but they talked about how like Gucci's
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  our Museum pieces and it's like, oh, yeah, that's very true.
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  Literally very self-aware. But those are our behind the
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  Horchow facts, the rest, we will hear in the episode.
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  I can't wait. I've been dying to do this
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  episode. So let's take a little break and
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  then we're going to jump into this episode.
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  We're going to be right back. And jump into Gucci.
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  Okay, Lisbeth hydrated. Jump into the house of Gucci.
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  I am so ready. Just let me in the front doors
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  father-son. I am just going to apologize.
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  Now if the fake Italian accent comes out, I'm In advance.
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  Yeah. We're we apologize to every
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  person from Italy about our bad accents.
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  I apologize. For some of my ancestors.
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  I know this is probably not what you wanted for me.
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  So for this episode, like Elizabeth said earlier, we're
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  going to take a little differently.
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  This is a pretty long movie and because it's just barely out in
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  theaters and it's not streaming anywhere.
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  We could only see it a couple times.
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  Ames. So instead of going seen by
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  saying, we're going to go character by character, and
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  we're going to start with some of the supporting characters
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  before we get into Gaga and Adam Driver, because we all know
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  that's why you're all here. So, we're going to make you wait
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  for it. So, let's actually start with
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  one of my surprise. Favorite characters, was Rodolfo
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  Gucci played by the Jeremy Irons, so good.
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  I was obsessed of his costume. He just, I love that freakin
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  handkerchief. He has around him, either.
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  This is what I asked. God.
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  Yes. This is what I aspire to be.
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  It looks so good. Actually.
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  Yes. This is going to be old man.
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  Spencer, like bass got the little jacket, the handkerchief
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  in the pocket. Got that, is you in like 50
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  years. Thank you.
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  I'm just obsessed. I just want to touch his
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  soothing. It looks so soft.
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  For those of you that don't know, the fidm museum.
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  Just had a great house of Gucci exhibit.
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  Where I actually got to go and check out a lot of these
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  costumes, right before the podcast and gain up close to
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  Jeremy iron suit. It's just looks so soft and
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  velvety. And he looks so comfortable.
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  But just so stylish and sophisticated.
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  It was incredible. It was incredible.
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  And I love how it just plays into his story because he was,
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  you know, a star of Italian Italian silent films.
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  And it's like, he really does look like a movie star even now
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  that he knows. Longer acts and just works for
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  Gucci. He still has that like that's
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  suaveness to him. Right?
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  He just looks so great. I don't know why I'm blanking.
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  Do how do I not know much of Jeremy Irons work?
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  Like I know him as a person but Ike like I know he's in Lion
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  King, but like why am I having a hard time been playing Jeremy
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  Irons right now? Honestly, me too.
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  Okay wait, we're off track already, but I'm looking him up
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  season one movie. He was in No, he was an ERA
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  Gandhi. Remember that Aragon.
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  Oh my gosh. Okay, sidebar complete sidebar.
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  So I loved those books growing up.
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  I've read all of them. Like at least twice to if that
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  was my first just like soul-crushing disappointment in
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  a film that movie was hot garbage.
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  It was hot garbage. Like it was so bad.
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  It's just like, how do you take something?
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  That's so perfectly set up to be a movie, right?
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  And make that like, oh, sorry. Yes.
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  I remember. I remember working so hard to
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  convince my parents to take me see that.
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  I was like, I promise you this movie is about to be straight
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  fire, we get there. We walked out.
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  My mom looked at me and I was like, I don't know.
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  It was so bad. I felt so bad for the guy.
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  They got to play Aragon because I'm I like it, destroyed his
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  career. I'm like, I'm sure he's like a
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  fine actor but like, I don't, I don't think I've ever seen him
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  after that. He was so young.
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  I felt so bad for him. We got everyone who's tuning in
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  for House. Of Gucci is like what?
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  Anyways, last year, someone accidentally fast forward to
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  this portion, Aragon. Anyways, Jeremy Irons.
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  He's a legend. The reason why I can't pinpoint
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  him is because he's so Legendary, he has like two
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  million films under his belt. So yeah, I just remembered he
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  was Alfred and the new Justice League, right, which I haven't
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  seen anyways, mind, but who's our next character do get that?
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  Unfortunately, Jeremy Irons wasn't in the movie that much
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  but like I was sad. He was I fell in love with is
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  his character so quickly, but I was sad that he was starting to
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  pass away. Yeah, and it was so funny
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  because like I said before this, I was listening to To a podcast
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  about the Gucci's and like he was so like overly involved in
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  his son's life. That I was like, oh, he's gonna
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  be a big part of this movie and I was just like, no.
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  Okay. Never mind.
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  Well the way that the film happens though, like it doesn't
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  feel like it but the film takes place over many many years.
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  So that's almost like every scene.
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  It was like a year had passed. So we didn't really get all of
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  the details, you know, no. But like how His father always
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  had. Somebody tailing him, right?
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  Like that probably could have used some more explanation.
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  But okay and I was like, this is trying to feel lonely
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  mafia-like, but that's okay. Anyway, our next favorite Gucci
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  out. Oguchi played by again.
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  Legendary. Al Pacino.
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  Oh my gosh. I did not think I was gonna like
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  Al Pacino is out of Gucci, as much as I actually did.
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  I kind of fell in love with him a little bit.
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  Like oh I want this guy to be my uncle to same like except for
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  the fact that he was like, yeah, I'll put the Gucci symbol on
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  crap. I don't care just character, but
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  he's just out of he was so kind and so just I don't know.
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  It's just he had such a positive energy.
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  Yeah, he had some negative qualities, but you know who
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  doesn't these days who doesn't, you know, end up in prison at
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  one point or another. Yeah, yeah, just some light tax
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  evasion, you know, but I do love cuz he's like quintessential 70s
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  and 80s. Businessman three-piece suit.
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  Wow, top loud, tie loud pocket square.
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  Like I'm like, that's what I think when I think of like a
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  businessman during this period, right?
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  I was reading the chant E8 said about Al Pacino that she had 14
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  suits made for him. And he always had the most
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  beautiful expensive Fabrics, which really checks to me on how
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  I'll do Gucci was. Oh, yeah, a funny note.
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  She said, she originally outfitted Al Pacino with a
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  Panama Hat, but he didn't want to wear it because he said his
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  hair. Look too great.
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  And I'm like, that's fair. Mr. Pacino.
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  I love that because his hair actually did.
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  Look quite good in this film. Not gonna lie.
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  I'm not gonna lie. But yeah, I'll do.
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  I'll do Gucci looked really good.
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  Also another embarrassing Revelation.
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  You're probably going to hate me for this.
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  I've yet to see Scarface or The Godfather.
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  Fun fact. Neither have I oh wait, we just
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  lost 10 subscribers. I just felt it out.
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  I think so. Oh my gosh.
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  Yeah, so I worked on a student film and it revolved around like
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  these two sisters just like being in their house and have
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  You know, like sibling conflict, but she showed us the final
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  scene from Scarface, like me, the producer and the DP, and
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  it's like this really bloody like shootout and she's like,
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  this is the kind of energy. I one from this one, specific
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  scene and it was like, okay, I mean, think about it, my dear
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  listeners, you really thought me and Elizabeth were growing up
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  watching Scarface or were We watching Aragon.
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  I yeah, I was watching Scarface or The Godfather.
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  I was watching War the Rings and every season of Stargate.
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  There was, there was doing, but obviously, I know what Scarface
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  and Godfather is. Like, I know the scenes of just
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  anyways, this is game bad. Al Pacino looked great in this
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  film. He did very Gucci.
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  I love how he was just like the cuddly uncle that like wanted
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  them to do well within the family business.
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  Like and then especially I was like, oh, I want to Uncle where
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  if I go into our family store. They're like, yeah, you can have
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  whatever you want. Don't worry about it.
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  Right? I was like, oh, I love this.
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  I also I also love the transformation of all do.
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  How once he came back from prison, his costumes got very
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  different. It was a lot more being down,
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  like he was still trying to To dress nicely.
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  But you could tell that he was really not himself anymore.
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  And I thought that the way that jayanti Yates did that I thought
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  was really brilliant. Yeah, it was clear that it was
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  like a little bit cheaper or like like Warren, not like nice
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  and new because he always looks like he's wearing something new
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  and every scene. Our next lovely co-star is Piña
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  played by Selma Hayek. I was like, you know, This is a
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  big budget filled with important people movie.
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  Once Salma Hayek is just a like supporting role.
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  Right? And I loved what she did with
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  this character. It was, you know, there's not a
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  lot of information on Pina, but I thought what she did with it.
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  I, you know, I've thought she did a really great job.
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  I agree. And I just love her introduction
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  on on the TV because she's like a TV psychic.
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  And like she's just wearing this great like floral printed black
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  robe where it's like, yeah, you definitely try to make yourself
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  look a little Mystic but you didn't put too much effort into
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  it. Right?
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  Just everything looks beautiful in summer, Hayek.
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  I mean, there's there's no way. I mean even in prison I saw that
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  was the only time she looked disheveled was not a prison in
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  the courtroom. I was like, oh, is that so my
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  Hayek, but other than that, She always looks brilliant.
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  She did Elizabeth. Did you know, some of my
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  ex-husband is the CEO of caring which at one point or still does
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  own Gucci? Which I thought was a really
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  cool tie. What that's funny.
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  It was fate. It's almost like penis saw in
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  one of her mystical fortune-telling moments.
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  I think she did. I think she did.
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  She didn't have a lot of costumes in this film.
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  But when she did, she really made it count.
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  I personally, He loved her costume.
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  Win her and Patrizio were waiting to meet the gentleman
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  who had soon carry out some very evil Deeds.
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  I was like, is this supposed to be a disguised moment, but I
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  thought it was great. That was great.
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  I guess that's like the most laid-back scene in the entire
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  movie and I'm just like, wow, you're really trying to dress
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  nondescript right here, right? Well, let's move on.
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  Who wasn't trying to dress in an Script fashion Paulo Gucci
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  played by Jared Leto. I I loved Paulo Gucci so much.
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  Let me just say I have never been a big fan of Jared Leto.
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  I think he's an interesting guy. He's beautiful.
• 23:33
  I think he has a great sense of fashion.
• 23:35
  But after that after that first Suicide Squad, I was really kind
• 23:39
  of turned off. I was like, what was that and
• 23:42
  like All the stories. I was really trying to let us
• 23:44
  such a weird guy, but he really, I really turned around.
• 23:48
  I pulled myself out of a after I saw house, iguchi.
• 23:51
  I'm like, well, this is genius, work.
• 23:53
  I cannot get over this bridge rail.
• 23:55
  It's so ridiculous. And so, over the top.
• 23:59
  I'm sure the coochie family was not happy about this, portrayal.
• 24:04
  I thought it was great. I, I agree.
• 24:07
  I'm like, fine with Jared Leto and like, okay, you're a weird
• 24:10
  dude, whatever. I do like your band.
• 24:13
  All right, but I'm just like as an actor.
• 24:15
  I'm just gonna hang out or whatever.
• 24:17
  What? Like, you're fine.
• 24:18
  You're good. Great.
• 24:20
  This was like, oh my gosh, how what is happening?
• 24:28
  He opened his mouth and you just like wanted to laugh is so
• 24:34
  bizarre and I loved every second of it.
• 24:38
  Okay, my I'm only gonna do this one, bad, Italian accent and I'm
• 24:42
  just going to To get it out of the way, but when the scene with
• 24:45
  Gaza and I keep saying carga, batricia and Paulo, when she's
• 24:50
  trying to convince him to do some shady, which that's like
• 24:53
  every single scene for her when she's telling him that she she
• 24:58
  likes his designs and he's literally like stop it.
• 25:02
  He'll go to make it a me cry. Oh, thanks for busting.
• 25:08
  I was busting up laughing. Yeah.
• 25:13
  It was just so hilarious. Like I love the scene with him
• 25:17
  and Jeremy Irons when he's like. Oh, so you're going with pastels
• 25:22
  and brown just like, yes. Yes.
• 25:28
  Oh my gosh, corduroy suit, which I actually kind of like, I don't
• 25:35
  know why his family was down on it, but it just like perfectly
• 25:39
  encapsulates who he is. I did.
• 25:42
  This suit. Look, I am a huge Lady.
• 25:46
  Gaga fan, Super Fan status. I've been to like to hunt of her
• 25:50
  concerts. I'm crazy, but this suit stood
• 25:53
  out so hard to me. I think this might have been my
• 25:56
  favorite costume of the film. I love it so much, so much.
• 26:00
  So Elizabeth, I've started working on a sewing pattern
• 26:04
  because I'm going to make myself a suit.
• 26:06
  I'm so inspired out of corduroy. Like it won't do it.
• 26:09
  I won't be as complicated as this but like I need a quarter,
• 26:12
  right? It was just so good, do it.
• 26:15
  I love that idea because I love this.
• 26:16
  I'm also a big fan of corduroy. I'm kind of upset that it's not
• 26:20
  like more prevalent. We're bringing in our fashion
• 26:23
  these days. Yeah, we're bringing it back
• 26:25
  Elizabeth. We have to like Paolo Gucci is
• 26:28
  the moment. He is a Moment Like This, like
• 26:32
  the color that like vibrant maroon, which I'm like, where
• 26:36
  did you find that? Like that color corduroy?
• 26:40
  And then just like it's there's so many unnecessary.
• 26:42
  Hairy details, like the straps over the bell and like two
• 26:47
  buttons for your belt. Like what's happening here.
• 26:52
  It's so good. I love that suit.
• 26:54
  So freaking much. I think they described it as a
• 26:57
  raspberry color, which I'm like, okay, that works.
• 27:00
  It's so good and it's just like it doesn't end like when he's
• 27:04
  showing Patricia. His designs like that.
• 27:07
  Just the purple plaid with that. Like ugly Brown.
• 27:13
  Ty. I'm like what is your obsession
• 27:15
  with adding Brown everything? That's a good character.
• 27:21
  I was obsessed of all of his looks.
• 27:24
  I had a hard time watching his fashion show scene, though, I
• 27:28
  felt so sad. Working sad!
• 27:30
  I'm like, is who's this? Is this movie about Patricia
• 27:33
  reggiani? Or is it Paulo Gucci?
• 27:35
  Because I worked all those theaters being like, I can't
• 27:38
  believe what they did to about the Gucci.
• 27:41
  I don't know. I that was one thing.
• 27:44
  I was kind of annoyed with with this movie is because like just
• 27:48
  like the little bit of like research.
• 27:49
  I've just done about the story. Like, outside the movie is like
• 27:53
  the key kind of like rearrange history because I'm pretty sure
• 27:57
  this happened before they made their deal.
• 28:00
  And then even after they made their deal, they just didn't let
• 28:03
  him design anything. Yeah.
• 28:04
  I want everyone to know that when you watch House of Gucci is
• 28:09
  definitely not at all, how it happened.
• 28:11
  I mean, there's lots of Hurry, there's a lot of very accurate
• 28:15
  things that seem to happen in the movie.
• 28:16
  And there are a lot of things that seem to like happen out of
• 28:19
  order. Yeah, you know, but like that's
• 28:23
  a version of the truth is just really out of order.
• 28:25
  Yeah. Controversial take.
• 28:27
  I think they did that. To make batricia seem like more
• 28:32
  of a monster than she actually was who?
• 28:35
  That is a controversial take. Yeah.
• 28:39
  Definitely. I think in the theatrical sense,
• 28:42
  I think. They did do that.
• 28:44
  I think they just but still reading about her story.
• 28:47
  Though is still to me. She still seemed like a Monster.
• 28:51
  Yeah, but like he told her they were getting a divorce by
• 29:00
  sending his doctor to their apartment with Valium that scene
• 29:04
  where he likes triangles her a little bit in the bedroom.
• 29:07
  He actually did that in front of their daughters.
• 29:10
  Oh dear. Yeah.
• 29:14
  Let me put like not it. I mean the story had to have a
• 29:19
  bad guy and obviously it was going to be her, but I think
• 29:22
  that's why they made the rearrangements.
• 29:24
  They did. I did not leave the theater
• 29:26
  thinking. My retail Gucci was a saint at
• 29:29
  all. I definitely think that there is
• 29:31
  a lot of things that I understood why Patricio was
• 29:34
  pissed about to like I don't think either them were very
• 29:37
  good, but my read Co didn't go on and hire an assassin though.
• 29:41
  So know that. It is a monster levels, right?
• 29:46
  She and neither of them were good people, but I'm like, oh,
• 29:48
  you've really rearranged history here, right?
• 29:52
  Anyways, Paulo Gucci. Hello Gucci.
• 29:55
  Speaking of when they screwed him over that orange.
• 30:00
  This is what this is like what he looks is most shuffled when
• 30:03
  he's confronting them, right? You know what it reminded me of
• 30:07
  when Paula came out and he was really pissed, some read.
• 30:10
  So and Patricia he reminded me of Joaquin.
• 30:12
  This is version of The Joker when it came out.
• 30:15
  And like this really kind of, like, weird color suit looking
• 30:18
  all the shoveled reminded me of like the Joker.
• 30:21
  No, I agree. Which I thought was pretty
• 30:24
  awesome. Actually.
• 30:25
  I thought that was like a kind of a subtle note where he's just
• 30:28
  really falling apart. I mean Paolo Gucci spent like a
• 30:32
  good according to the film's, but a good portion of his life
• 30:35
  just being sidelined and laughed at and made kind of like a clown
• 30:39
  and yeah, so Joker status Totally.
• 30:43
  I think next we should talk about our two main characters,
• 30:48
  but maybe we should take a little break.
• 30:50
  Definitely. We should take a break.
• 30:52
  I'm gonna go start archiving all of my special Gucci pieces in my
• 30:56
  closet. So it's going to take a couple
• 30:58
  minutes. Okay, I think that's a good
• 31:00
  idea. I want to know where you're
• 31:02
  getting this coochie, but I think that's definitely
• 31:05
  something you need to do. All right.
• 31:30
  Well, we are back from break and we had to finish talking about
• 31:34
  Aragon. So don't worry that's in the
• 31:37
  past. We're not going to bring it up
• 31:38
  again. It was a very Lively
• 31:39
  conversation. Yeah, we just still Had too many
• 31:43
  thoughts and feelings about the topic that we had.
• 31:46
  We had to take a break and talk about it.
• 31:51
  We should do the episode next season.
• 31:54
  Don't put me through that kind of torture.
• 31:58
  Anyways, watching that movie is physically paint.
• 32:04
  She can't even talk. It's too painful.
• 32:07
  But you know what? I can talk about Spencer.
• 32:10
  Patricia reggiani played by Just beautiful.
• 32:14
  Perfect Lady Gaga and Maurizio Gucci played by the equally
• 32:18
  Perfect. Adam Driver roof.
• 32:20
  This is the moment. We've all been waiting for.
• 32:22
  This is the Super Bowl of costume.
• 32:24
  Design podcast moments. Oh, yes.
• 32:28
  Oh, yes. Like to perfect actors.
• 32:32
  Playing these incredible roles and jayanti eights.
• 32:36
  Really had just an amazing time working with Lady Gaga because
• 32:40
  she was kind of afraid she was like, is she.
• 32:42
  Anna. You know, she's very into
• 32:44
  costume and she was afraid. She was going to kind of want
• 32:47
  something over the top. But she said to Vogue for Lady
• 32:51
  Gaga, who said she wanted to be dressed, like her Italian mama.
• 32:56
  I had her own archive and the Glorious Gucci archived to draw
• 32:59
  from. So, when Lady Gaga told her,
• 33:02
  like, oh, I want to look like my mother did.
• 33:05
  She was like a few, like she's not going to be wanting to wear
• 33:08
  like anything crazy, all the time, right?
• 33:11
  And Was good, because they had quite a big wardrobe for
• 33:16
  Patricia. She has 54 script days.
• 33:20
  So they had to create 54 different outfits because she
• 33:25
  never repeats a look Yates said to Vogue, she doesn't even
• 33:29
  repeat an earring. Well, that's crazy, which I'm
• 33:33
  like that's a lot on the other hand, Maurizio Gucci, had a very
• 33:39
  sophisticated. Look always, very suited up.
• 33:42
  Jan T8 said, in an interview that she wanted Maurizio to show
• 33:46
  an arc in his costumes. Transitioning him from Savile
• 33:50
  Row suits to look you more relaxed toward the end of the
• 33:53
  film when he had his new girlfriend.
• 33:55
  So your notice he wears a lot more velvet toward the end.
• 33:58
  Once he gets into the 90s because he's trying to dress
• 34:01
  down a little to impress, his new girlfriend, but throughout
• 34:05
  the film, Adam drivers pretty suited up.
• 34:08
  He wears a suit pretty well, Elizabeth.
• 34:10
  I'm just going to say also I Never been a huge fan of Adam
• 34:15
  Driver acting wise, but that's because I come from the kylo.
• 34:20
  Ren Arc where I was slow to pick up on kylo Ren, but by the end,
• 34:28
  I became Adam Driver fan and House of Gucci, cemented it for
• 34:31
  me. I am now.
• 34:33
  Adam Driver fans. Certified.
• 34:35
  Good. Good.
• 34:38
  Oh my God. I thought she was gonna jump
• 34:40
  through to screen for a second. I Almost did because he always
• 34:46
  looks perfect in this movie, especially when they first meet
• 34:49
  at that masquerade, that scene was so much fun.
• 34:54
  Got looks so good. In that red dress.
• 34:58
  I want this red dress. I want this red dress.
• 35:01
  It needs to be mine. I read a story from Jane T8
• 35:05
  saying that this dress is actually changed on the spot
• 35:09
  because really Scott saw and he said no, no, no, He wants Lady
• 35:13
  Gaga to be showing more leg in this club scene.
• 35:16
  So they had Lady Gaga stand on the Apple box.
• 35:19
  Which by the way, Lady Gaga is a very, very tiny and they had her
• 35:23
  stand on an Apple box and it cut like, 18 inches off of it.
• 35:27
  I was like, what, what, what were they doing with that dress
• 35:30
  that long in the first place? That's like a foot and a half
• 35:36
  while so Ridley Scott. I mean, I have to say he came
• 35:41
  through with the costume. Decisions on that one.
• 35:43
  I thought that was a good. Good choice.
• 35:45
  It really was. And I love this dress for this
• 35:48
  scene because she walks in like, just wanting to have a good
• 35:51
  time. But as soon as she finds out who
• 35:55
  she is, she kind of turns into like a seductress and it's like
• 35:59
  it's a red dress. Of course.
• 36:01
  In our last episode. There has to be a red dress, of
• 36:04
  course, Lady Gaga has multiple red outfits.
• 36:08
  In this film, have all sorts of red flag.
• 36:12
  To them. So, oh my gosh, we're ending our
• 36:14
  season with another red dress, another red dress.
• 36:19
  So it's perfect because it's like, yeah, it just, it looks,
• 36:22
  it looks fun and cute. But when she's like, oh, I gotta
• 36:25
  get this man. It makes her look like a
• 36:28
  seductress, which is just like, so perfect.
• 36:31
  The way garga as Patricio was able to like you could tell when
• 36:36
  there was something up, you know, like something would
• 36:39
  change, where she would go into like, oh, I'm about to seduce
• 36:42
  Mauricio. Gucci right now.
• 36:43
  Like there is, you could tell when something, go off in her
• 36:46
  head and she did almost transform until like whatever
• 36:48
  she needs to be for that moment. This is the first time he saw
• 36:52
  and I was like, who like retro and then once she bumps into
• 36:58
  him, the next day, I'm like, I love this little like,
• 37:03
  undercover outfit of yours. The like the plat trench coat
• 37:07
  with the silk scarf around her head.
• 37:09
  I was like, oh, girl, like you're really Out to win this
• 37:14
  phrase. She looks so beautiful in this
• 37:16
  scene and I love the scarf around her.
• 37:18
  I was like really though like we all see you.
• 37:21
  You're not hiding. She might as well had the
• 37:23
  glasses of the nose and the fake mustache.
• 37:27
  I'm like, 32 not gonna lie, your kind of stupid.
• 37:34
  How do you not see this girl right now, but I do love how
• 37:38
  they subtly match because like he just has lucky.
• 37:42
  At the tan trench coat with that, like tan black and white
• 37:47
  sweater. And it's like they do, there's
• 37:50
  like a little bit of Matty match between the two of them.
• 37:53
  Right? I mean they were kind of they
• 37:55
  were pretty good mats. At first.
• 37:57
  It seemed like, you know, at the beginning of this movie, I was
• 37:59
  like, wow, this is really fairy tale.
• 38:01
  Like they fell in love. They were matching.
• 38:04
  I was I was into it which in the end.
• 38:06
  It's kind of sad, you know, to think about what ended up
• 38:09
  happening because the way they got together just was like such
• 38:12
  You're brilliant. True.
• 38:14
  Love at first. Yeah, I think she does
• 38:17
  definitely chase him. But I think she really did love
• 38:20
  him because like she hurt like in real life.
• 38:24
  Her mother was basically like you have to marry rich and she
• 38:28
  married him when he literally had nothing.
• 38:31
  So I'm like if she was truly a gold digger, she would not have
• 38:35
  done that. Right?
• 38:36
  Totally so good. Also good.
• 38:40
  All the rest of her little outfit, she wears.
• 38:42
  There's a lot of brown, which really looks good on Lady Gaga
• 38:47
  and like would not have thought of like that is like a
• 38:51
  flattering color on anybody. No, but I mean, of course, Gaga
• 38:55
  pulls it off, but I loved her little brown polka dot dress
• 38:59
  that she wore on their first date.
• 39:02
  So cute. I love that dress.
• 39:04
  I love that silhouette on her. It's so cute.
• 39:07
  I love gargas, wigs, ridiculous, and I love them.
• 39:12
  Play. I must say, she made a lot of
• 39:15
  like, interesting hair choices in this movie.
• 39:17
  Right? And that's kind of why I loved
• 39:19
  it because I think the real Patricio reggiani made
• 39:23
  interesting hair choices. So I like how they captured
• 39:26
  that. Yeah.
• 39:28
  No, that was brilliant. Also, I love their date outfit.
• 39:34
  Both of their day outfits when they go out in the rowboat.
• 39:38
  Oh, yeah. That was a good scene.
• 39:40
  I specifically liked Adam Driver.
• 39:42
  Ivers and blue suit that he were, I thought was very nice
• 39:46
  and also felt like pretty modern, you know, like this is a
• 39:49
  Gucci, you know, he comes from a fashion family and those little
• 39:53
  notes really showed on Adam drivers character.
• 39:55
  Absolutely. It was very modern like the blue
• 39:58
  jacket with, like the white turtleneck.
• 40:00
  I was like, oh, this is she, right?
• 40:04
  And it glasses really worked to. I know they were just as
• 40:06
  glasses, but they were School, something about them.
• 40:09
  I was very like, yes, I like that Adam Driver.
• 40:12
  Actually where those those are like not attractive glasses on
• 40:16
  most people so he like really pulled them off.
• 40:18
  Yeah, I agree. That's the magic of Adam Driver.
• 40:22
  Also magical Lady Gaga's wedding dress, our final wedding dress
• 40:29
  of the season. And this one is well worth the
• 40:32
  wait. I've personally always imagine
• 40:34
  what it'd be like to see Lady Gaga get married.
• 40:38
  So I was pretty excited about this and a trust was so So
• 40:43
  beautiful. It was so beautiful.
• 40:46
  It was Jenny hates favorite costume.
• 40:49
  She said we met two different dresses.
• 40:52
  We made one as per photographic evidence, which was actually
• 40:58
  Gucci. And then we also made a
• 41:00
  confection one. I call it.
• 41:01
  We didn't make our minds up until the morning of the shoot
• 41:05
  and put Gaga in both. The result was overwhelming.
• 41:08
  She looked so pretty in the confection dress.
• 41:11
  That we just went with it. So not historically accurate,
• 41:15
  but they were like, it looks good on her and it does, right.
• 41:21
  I love the how they're like. We have this archival.
• 41:24
  Like Gucci look. And then we have the stress of
• 41:27
  just looks bomb as hell on Lady Gaga.
• 41:29
  We put on both and they're like you look real good in that one.
• 41:32
  So we're just going to do it and that's fine because to me the
• 41:36
  dress, still felt, you know, still felt period.
• 41:39
  So still felt real to me. Yeah.
• 41:41
  I know and I thought It looks beautiful on her.
• 41:44
  There's so much detail in that dress.
• 41:46
  There's so much detail. I love the lace is very 70s.
• 41:52
  Very 70s. Very like applique, very just
• 41:58
  prominent, but I also loved her veil over that like half the
• 42:04
  hive right. Brilliant.
• 42:07
  So beautiful. It's so so big I went and saw in
• 42:11
  person. And this thing was the size of
• 42:14
  my living room like this Veil is huge but it's so beautiful.
• 42:20
  Another thing that's interesting to me about it is that it's like
• 42:22
  a high-low skirt. It's higher in the front lower
• 42:25
  in the back, which I thought was like an interesting choice.
• 42:29
  Also. It's such a tiny dress.
• 42:31
  I just have to say again gargas. So tiny and petite this little
• 42:35
  dress is so tiny. I know I'm looking at the
• 42:37
  pictures you took and I'm like that looks like it's for a
• 42:40
  child. Like that really is petite.
• 42:45
  Right? But the freaking Vale could have
• 42:47
  went across the entire room. It was huge and a so beautiful.
• 42:52
  So beautiful. Another beautiful white.
• 42:54
  Look. She has is when they go to his
• 42:58
  uncle's birthday and she wears this beautiful white strapless
• 43:04
  applique dress with the matching shrug like, oh my goodness.
• 43:11
  Oh, so beautiful. I love The shoulder piece, the
• 43:14
  shrug you're talking about look so beautiful on her.
• 43:16
  I love how gargas character starts to move into white,
• 43:19
  especially as she becomes, you know, Patricio Gucci as we had
• 43:23
  say, she kind of leaves like the funky colors and the Browns a
• 43:27
  little bit more behind as she marries into the family starts
• 43:30
  really sophisticated with the white.
• 43:33
  I agree. This is one of my favorite looks
• 43:34
  also. Yeah, it's beautiful.
• 43:36
  And like the fit on her was just like, out of this world.
• 43:41
  Like it's, it's Knee length, just like straight pencil skirt
• 43:46
  on it. But like it looks beautiful.
• 43:49
  It like accentuates her perfectly and then Adam Driver
• 43:54
  in that white and blue checkered shirt with the Navy Blazer.
• 43:58
  I'm like, oh my gosh. Hello.
• 44:02
  You did the two of you look perfect next to each other,
• 44:04
  right? It's almost like Maurizio brat
• 44:07
  Patricia, and she's like, showing up looking like an
• 44:09
  angel, because she's wearing all white.
• 44:11
  He's taking her to the family. Only for like the first time and
• 44:14
  she just shows up glowing and Everyone Falls like, in love
• 44:17
  with her right away. It's the perfect setup for the
• 44:20
  perfect nightmare of events. That's about to take place.
• 44:24
  Oh, yes, if she gets out of white pretty quickly though,
• 44:28
  because his father dies, not long after they have their first
• 44:33
  child, but she still looks good at the funeral.
• 44:37
  I love her funeral outfit. I mean, it was a nice dress.
• 44:41
  I love the white necklace. It came with it and I love, you
• 44:44
  know, the little veil on top, just very sophisticated, very
• 44:47
  classic but still fashion though, and I love Adam Driver
• 44:53
  suit here because it's not just like a plain black suit.
• 44:56
  It's like pinstriped, right? It looks really good on him.
• 45:01
  I mean, there's not a single suit in this movie.
• 45:03
  That didn't look good on out of a driver.
• 45:06
  He just wears a suit, so, well, he does, but she has to wear a
• 45:11
  red dress. To do some shady again.
• 45:14
  Yeah, I mean, when the red dress comes out crazy stuffs about to
• 45:18
  start happening, Patricio. It really falls into like the
• 45:22
  house of Gucci like, you know, Mission pretty quickly.
• 45:26
  She really does. And I love this dress, but I
• 45:29
  love the co even more, like, the coat with the oversized
• 45:34
  sunglasses. I'm just like, oh, you really
• 45:37
  just went for it, right? Shoe and the glasses with it,
• 45:41
  too. And I love the like side buttons
• 45:45
  are happening on the side of her dress.
• 45:47
  It's so beautiful. There's a scene actually that I
• 45:51
  want to bring up that got cut from the actual movie.
• 45:55
  Elizabeth. What happened to The Studio 54
• 45:57
  seen? It was cut and I'm very sad
• 46:00
  about that because we're about to get some hella good costumes.
• 46:03
  They had it in a trailer. I watched a film and I was
• 46:06
  saying they're like, where is Studio 54?
• 46:08
  After our Halston episode? I was basically counting down a
• 46:12
  day. Days, and now it's gone and I'm
• 46:14
  really sad about that Jan. T8 said that there was actually
• 46:18
  quite a bit of costumes and seen Sarah cut.
• 46:20
  So I'm hoping that we get some sort of director's cut with some
• 46:24
  more content, maybe on like a Blu-ray disc or something.
• 46:27
  I mean, that would be quite nice.
• 46:30
  But considering this was like two hours and 40 minutes.
• 46:33
  I understand the cuts Studio 50s Justice for Studio 54 singing
• 46:41
  give it to us. But Lady Gaga is becoming very
• 46:44
  unhappy with the family business when she finds out that their
• 46:49
  uncle is just letting anybody put the Gucci label on anything.
• 46:53
  Oh, yeah, she can't real scary real quick.
• 46:56
  I have to say that I didn't really understand why she was as
• 47:00
  upset. I'm like clearly.
• 47:02
  It's still working though. You know, I get I get I get why
• 47:05
  they're upset, but also I was like, it's okay.
• 47:08
  We're going to be fine, though, you know.
• 47:10
  Yeah, I will say I think this This was the time and Gucci when
• 47:15
  they're like their notoriety was kind of going down with
• 47:19
  wealthier clients. There were like newer, more
• 47:23
  exclusive designers on the market.
• 47:26
  So I think that's kind of, like, where she's coming from like
• 47:30
  because Gucci was like a status symbol and like, she's seeing
• 47:34
  this as like, well, if anyone can have it, then how is it a
• 47:37
  status symbol, right? Which, by the way, I want to
• 47:40
  shout out Jan. It's basically said, I believe
• 47:43
  she says her assistant costume designer.
• 47:46
  So I went on her team. They were basically in charge of
• 47:49
  doing all the fashion shows that happened, which we don't really
• 47:52
  even have you no time to talk about.
• 47:55
  But there were some multiple fashion shows that happened in
• 47:58
  this film. That were really beautiful.
• 47:59
  There is the Versace 1984 show. There was.
• 48:03
  There's that beautiful Tom Ford show em for Gucci and 95 that I
• 48:09
  thought was absolutely beautiful.
• 48:10
  The costume designer was, Possible for doing that.
• 48:13
  So believe. Jayanti said, it was her
• 48:15
  assistant costume designer and their name was Stephen o
• 48:19
  denardis. She said her associate designer.
• 48:22
  So shout out the Stefano killed it.
• 48:25
  I forget which one, but I think they actually it must have been
• 48:29
  the Tom Ford one, but I think they actually like, inner cut it
• 48:32
  with actual archive footage. Oh, because there is like a shot
• 48:37
  of Kate Moss and it's like definitely Kate Moss from the
• 48:41
  90s. I didn't notice that.
• 48:44
  Yeah, off to go back, but that Versace show though was, I'm for
• 48:49
  such as my favorite designer. So that was so good and like,
• 48:53
  seeing Grace Jones like when they went backstage, I was like,
• 48:57
  oh, yeah, so good, so many. Good little details in the
• 49:00
  background, that are even a part of the movie.
• 49:02
  It was so good. It was so good.
• 49:04
  And I feel bad for Maurizio in that scene because he's talking
• 49:09
  to the guy and guys like no one here would work for Iguchi, are
• 49:13
  you crazy? And feel like that's when
• 49:14
  Mauricio was kind of like, hey, hold on a second.
• 49:19
  It's not very nice. But anyways, back to where we
• 49:22
  are, where we are in the film Garg is really spiraling out of
• 49:25
  control. And then we get to this scene
• 49:27
  that I talked about earlier with Patricia and Paulo Gucci.
• 49:32
  And I feel that this dress. I'm kind of indifferent towards
• 49:38
  it because this one felt the most cos to me to me, if you
• 49:42
  know what, I mean with that, that black with the pink polka,
• 49:45
  dots of like, this felt a little caricature to me.
• 49:50
  Maybe it is so 80s though, right?
• 49:54
  I mean, that's the thing went essential 80s.
• 49:57
  It's so 80s. I mean, she even says that in
• 49:59
  the scene, she's like, hello ladies.
• 50:01
  And I'm like, well, hello little dancing.
• 50:06
  The two of them do, right. I was like, what is this?
• 50:12
  I love. Of it, but I don't know if we
• 50:13
  needed it so good. I mean, that's that's my
• 50:16
  favorite scene of the movie. I just felt.
• 50:18
  I was like this costume is crazy, but it probably is
• 50:21
  accurate honestly, so, you know, it was crazy.
• 50:24
  But I'm also like she probably wore it to appeal to Paulo, like
• 50:30
  that was definitely something he would probably have responded
• 50:33
  to, and been like, oh, you look great because it is so kind of
• 50:37
  like out there. That's, that's such a good
• 50:39
  point. Elizabeth.
• 50:40
  I didn't realize that she's totally wearing Just to like
• 50:43
  impress Paulo. So oh, yeah 100%.
• 50:47
  I'm so glad he said that she there is a motive behind
• 50:50
  everything with her. Oh, yeah.
• 50:52
  She never. She always has a motive.
• 50:54
  I think except for when she joins Maurizio and where are
• 50:59
  they Aspen? I don't really, I didn't really
• 51:02
  know. But the very snowy winter.
• 51:05
  He's scenes, where I thought all these costumes were brilliant,
• 51:09
  starting with the darker scheme. Yeah.
• 51:12
  Yeah, like, when she shows up just for hat, fur coat,
• 51:17
  completely black gold jewelry. I was like, oh, girl.
• 51:21
  You look so good, but you really stick out amongst these people,
• 51:26
  right? I mean, she shows up like she's
• 51:28
  the evil queen or something that costume though is just so good.
• 51:32
  I love all the fervor that white hat.
• 51:35
  Why I said hat, weird white hat, white hat.
• 51:38
  It was so good. But then Adam Driver in that
• 51:41
  turtleneck. I'm like, hello.
• 51:43
  That's, that's a good stuff right there.
• 51:46
  The man was made to wear a turtleneck.
• 51:49
  Like, that's what maybe 1% of the population.
• 51:52
  Looks that good in a turtleneck. It's like a gift from God.
• 51:56
  I would never even dare touch with turtleneck.
• 51:58
  Like he just has a, you know, I do because I live in
• 52:02
  Pennsylvania and it's freaking cold over here sometimes.
• 52:07
  But he just like it looks good on him.
• 52:10
  It looks so good on him. The cable knit.
• 52:13
  The pure White's, snowing ski ski jumper.
• 52:18
  I don't know. I don't ski skiing.
• 52:21
  I don't know skiing is but like this was this photo that were
• 52:26
  describing. It was like the first photo that
• 52:29
  came out from set to 1 as we were filming.
• 52:32
  So this is our first like look into what house of Gucci was
• 52:35
  looking like. And The world went crazy when we
• 52:38
  saw her in his black and Adam Driver and that cable knit
• 52:42
  sweater. Whoo, I mean, and for good
• 52:45
  reason, it's one of the two better costumes of the film.
• 52:48
  Truly. Like I remember I like I hadn't
• 52:50
  really heard about it. And then I saw this this photo
• 52:53
  and I was like, oh, I need to know all about this, but this
• 52:56
  brings us to my other favorite costume of the film, The
• 53:00
  patrizia's, a red ski jumpsuit. I love this costume so much
• 53:05
  because things have Oddly gone, terrible.
• 53:08
  And she shows up straight dress, like, the devil.
• 53:11
  She is. Mad of she is so mad.
• 53:17
  She like, confronts Paola. And I'm just like, she actually
• 53:22
  brings it up quite smoothly and Paola, just looks at her, like,
• 53:25
  she's crazy. But I'm like, you are kind of
• 53:28
  sleeping with her husband, like, right.
• 53:31
  I mean, makes sense that you, she would be upset with you when
• 53:33
  God said down in that red jumpsuit, I am Really knew that
• 53:37
  something bad is about to happen, like that cos 2 to me.
• 53:40
  It was just screaming. Like, she was basically on fire
• 53:43
  and she didn't have to like scream.
• 53:45
  She didn't have to yell. She sat down off that, like,
• 53:48
  glass of tea and, like, gave it a real hard bang with her spoon,
• 53:52
  and I about Yelp tie. If I were probably would have
• 53:55
  started running away. Scary.
• 53:57
  I don't consider myself a particularly at the court woman,
• 54:00
  but I am Fair besides Paolo's, like raspberry suit, we're
• 54:06
  talking about, Earlier, this red ski jump suit is my favorite
• 54:09
  costume because it's, it's just so fun.
• 54:12
  It says everything. Also, I love the Saint Laurent
• 54:15
  belt that she has around her. It's not even Gucci at Saint
• 54:18
  Laurent and it's just that's all just so good.
• 54:22
  She looks like the devil and I love it.
• 54:24
  It is so good. And I'm just like, you clearly
• 54:28
  are not here to ski. You're just here to look good.
• 54:33
  She's clearly here to stab someone with her skis.
• 54:37
  Maurizio. She's here in summary Co with
• 54:39
  her skis, right? But things just gets sadder and
• 54:43
  sadder for for Lady Gaga and Maurizio leaves her and she kind
• 54:51
  of goes crazy. Yeah, she unravels I guess for
• 54:56
  lack of a better word. Yeah.
• 54:58
  This the last like 30, 40 minutes of the film were
• 55:01
  actually kind of, at least for me.
• 55:02
  I thought very depressing knowing that this is based on a
• 55:05
  true story. Obviously, I think according to
• 55:09
  the story, I'm going based off of the film.
• 55:13
  I felt that Maurizio was definitely not a saint.
• 55:18
  I did not agree. If a lot of things he did,
• 55:20
  especially the way he like separated from her, you know, I
• 55:24
  don't have to if that's actually how it went down.
• 55:27
  That was pretty shitty. But Patrizio really like falls
• 55:31
  off The Rocker though, and I mean, she basically had this man
• 55:36
  a saint The needed because she, she's just upset about this
• 55:40
  divorce. I'm like, oh my gosh, we
• 55:42
  everyone's getting divorced these days.
• 55:44
  You know, like it was just, I was like, come on, don't do this
• 55:48
  girl, especially with her daughters.
• 55:49
  And I feel really terribly for her daughters.
• 55:53
  Yeah, and I just, I love the final scene there in together
• 55:58
  where he has that tan overcoat and she's in the tan fur coat
• 56:04
  because it's like they're still matching.
• 56:06
  And they're still matching because in a ways it's almost
• 56:09
  like they are made for each other, you know, because
• 56:12
  Mauricio doesn't think he's on the same level as patrizia
• 56:16
  sometimes but he does equally as she stuff sometimes or he's
• 56:19
  going to as we see in a couple scenes later where he ends up
• 56:23
  doing exactly what he made his uncle do.
• 56:26
  But if so sad seeing Patrizio all disheveled like that showing
• 56:29
  up to the apartment. That was so cringy.
• 56:31
  I didn't want to watch it. Oh that was some good acting
• 56:34
  with the with the photo. I was like, honey.
• 56:39
  Oh my oh, I wish she didn't bring up the photo album.
• 56:41
  That was terrible that I wanted to leave.
• 56:45
  I was like, this is terrible. No and I just thought his final
• 56:51
  his final costume, which is just like a charcoal, you know,
• 56:55
  jacket and pants with like the blue blue button-down think it's
• 57:00
  like a charcoal tie as well. I feel like he's almost come
• 57:03
  full circle and he kind of like I think that scene where he's
• 57:07
  just sitting at the cafe, he's kind of realized his mistakes in
• 57:11
  life. Yeah.
• 57:12
  I feel like they played it off as where he's kind of like a
• 57:14
  piece, you know, because in real life, he had already sold his
• 57:18
  shares. Like he had moved on, you know,
• 57:21
  he didn't really get that idea from the film, but like all of
• 57:24
  that bad stuff is kind of like, it happened is over with so I
• 57:27
  guess he was. I once they retire just like
• 57:30
  having coffee, you know, and so leisurely.
• 57:33
  He looked happy in a moment, which was nice because we hadn't
• 57:35
  seen him happier. In an hour girls, so yeah, so
• 57:40
  yeah, that was hard to watch but the costuming was really great
• 57:44
  to the storytelling. It really was and then her
• 57:47
  outfit when she shows back up to their home to kick out the
• 57:51
  girlfriend. I was like, oh talk about a
• 57:54
  Revenge outfit. She is nicknamed in real life,
• 57:58
  the Black Widow. And to me this costume, says
• 58:02
  everything about that. I mean, she shows up.
• 58:05
  I mean, she supposedly show. Showed up, not long after she
• 58:08
  felt, you know, about the murder kicked out his girlfriend.
• 58:11
  She wore like her best costume best outfit.
• 58:15
  She is a black widow. She didn't look sad.
• 58:17
  She had a tear so, but yeah, that was one of my favorite
• 58:21
  costumes, but happened at quite the inopportune time.
• 58:25
  It really did. Just like it's literally a
• 58:28
  leather trench coat with a fur collar.
• 58:32
  It feels like she planned this outfit.
• 58:34
  Like she knew what she was going to wear today.
• 58:36
  He was Third. I think she did.
• 58:38
  And like, I like the leather, because it's like, oh, she's
• 58:40
  like protecting herself. From any like, you know,
• 58:44
  accusations or like negative feelings.
• 58:47
  That might come towards her, right?
• 58:50
  I mean, I about died. I'm trying not to, I'm not
• 58:54
  trying to take away from the fact that this is a true story
• 58:56
  for the most part and it's very sad, but I'm going at this as a
• 59:00
  Gaga fan right now in this scene when she hugged the girlfriend
• 59:04
  and was like, can you please Score her out.
• 59:07
  I use like screamed again. I was like, oh my God, Gaga, you
• 59:11
  know, because it's like she looks at her and she hugs her
• 59:15
  like, oh, yes, we have like a shared sorrow in this moment and
• 59:20
  then it's just like, get the fuck out.
• 59:23
  I was like, oh my god. I've turned out the fan, girl.
• 59:31
  That's crazy. I was just so excited to see
• 59:35
  garga. From an actress point of view,
• 59:37
  playing a villain. I thought was very interesting.
• 59:41
  It was very interesting. The whole thing was interesting,
• 59:44
  the costumes top-notch top-notch.
• 59:49
  This was well worth the way. I had so much fun.
• 59:53
  And I'm going to re watch this movie again.
• 59:55
  And again, I think I'm actually going to the theaters tomorrow.
• 59:58
  Honestly, do it go. See it again.
• 1:00:02
  Well, Elizabeth that brings us to the end of the House of Gucci
• 1:00:05
  but Because this is our season finale.
• 1:00:08
  We're going to take a quick break and we're going to come
• 1:00:11
  back. So we could wrap things up here
• 1:00:13
  before we say goodbye for the holidays.
• 1:00:16
  Try not to cry. Yes, I'll hold in my tears.
• 1:00:19
  And when we get back, we're going to have Carrie Bennett to
• 1:00:23
  announce the winner of our giveaway.
• 1:00:26
  Finally. Let's do this.
• 1:00:50
  Welcome back, everybody. We are happy to have Carrie
• 1:00:53
  Bennett back with us to announce the winner of our office holiday
• 1:00:57
  giveaway. Thank you so much for coming.
• 1:01:00
  Very nice. Oh my gosh.
• 1:01:02
  I'm so excited for this. Oh my gosh.
• 1:01:04
  Happy holidays. How's the holidays?
• 1:01:06
  Treating you? You thanks.
• 1:01:07
  Good. Good.
• 1:01:08
  Just trying to, you know, I always think I'm ahead with my
• 1:01:12
  christmasing. Now.
• 1:01:14
  It's just here. It's all happening, and I'm not
• 1:01:16
  ahead, right? I'm so behind.
• 1:01:21
  Don't tell Elizabeth. And Daniel, that's real bad
• 1:01:23
  right now, but we missed. You were so glad to have you
• 1:01:29
  back. Yeah, likewise.
• 1:01:31
  So we are here for the drawing of our holiday special office.
• 1:01:36
  Robe giveaway. There's so many names to it.
• 1:01:40
  First Carry. I would love to hear a little
• 1:01:42
  bit about the charity you picked.
• 1:01:43
  And why? Okay.
• 1:01:46
  Well, I we were, we've been doing this Rogue giveaway to
• 1:01:50
  raise money for the sunrise movement.
• 1:01:54
  I found these guys because I was like, hmm, how to best.
• 1:01:58
  Spend my dollars to save the Earth, right?
• 1:02:02
  I mean, you know, like you do, you know, you think about that
• 1:02:06
  and I saw I kind of just was Googling around and I found this
• 1:02:09
  amazing article in the Atlantic that talked about the resolve
• 1:02:13
  and the passion that this youth movement has.
• 1:02:16
  And I listened in on some of their calls.
• 1:02:19
  They have a university so they can teach other youth to be
• 1:02:23
  stewards of the earth. That's awesome.
• 1:02:25
  And I just was totally blown away.
• 1:02:27
  They're so activated. They're so dedicated.
• 1:02:30
  They're organized. They're so well-spoken inclusive
• 1:02:33
  and informed, I just was smitten.
• 1:02:36
  And I feel like they're going to save us from ourselves.
• 1:02:41
  So that's, that's it. It said there there, a youth
• 1:02:44
  movement that and their focus is to stop climate change and
• 1:02:47
  create millions of good jobs in the process.
• 1:02:49
  Well, I love that. Yeah, I mean, you can't go
• 1:02:51
  wrong. I love these guys, right, we're
• 1:02:55
  so happy. It's are accosting.
• 1:02:56
  Blog has to have done this with you.
• 1:02:59
  We have so much love for you and we're so glad that we've been
• 1:03:01
  able to give back in the process and we're excited to share with
• 1:03:04
  you that we raised over. Thousand dollars for the sunrise
• 1:03:08
  movement. Oh my God, you guys amazing.
• 1:03:15
  You guys. I'm so impressed.
• 1:03:17
  Yeah, so thank you to everyone, who donated.
• 1:03:20
  I mean, this has been really special for us.
• 1:03:21
  I'm so so happy. I'm so thrilled that people who
• 1:03:25
  picked up the ball and ran with it.
• 1:03:29
  I'm so excited to see who's gonna win this foam after all
• 1:03:32
  this. Yeah.
• 1:03:33
  Well, speaking of, let's do this thing.
• 1:03:34
  We're excited to drive a names are Ready Kari, let's let's do
• 1:03:38
  this thing. Okay, how are we going to do it?
• 1:03:40
  So we have taken all the names and put them into a electronic
• 1:03:44
  hat. So you could generate the winner
• 1:03:47
  for every five dollars. Donated your name was entered in
• 1:03:50
  a hat. So if you donated $10 your name
• 1:03:52
  was entered in twice and so on and so forth.
• 1:03:55
  You're going to hit the shuffle button and we're going to see
• 1:03:58
  who was our winner. I see some people, some people's
• 1:04:02
  nature in here. A bunch of times.
• 1:04:04
  That's amazing. Thank you for those big.
• 1:04:06
  Donations, that's so cool. People really passionate about
• 1:04:10
  stopping climate change. Yeah, let's stop it.
• 1:04:13
  Come on. Okay.
• 1:04:15
  Are you ready Kari? Okay.
• 1:04:16
  Oh my gosh. I'm kind of I feel nervous.
• 1:04:19
  Nervous too. Elizabeth hold my hand.
• 1:04:23
  It's gonna be fine. Ready?
• 1:04:29
  Okay now thing at the rainbow wheel is spinning.
• 1:04:33
  Okay, and it says the winner is AC Salisbury the winner of a
• 1:04:43
  special one-of-a-kind robe from the set of the office, courtesy
• 1:04:47
  of the brilliant costume designer carries in it, a new
• 1:04:53
  home that will love and cherish it.
• 1:04:56
  Hey, Casey, Casey, we're gonna email you for your address.
• 1:05:00
  You have 48 hours to get back to us.
• 1:05:03
  If you don't, then we're going to draw another name and we're
• 1:05:05
  going to keep doing this till someone.
• 1:05:06
  Gets the Rope. So Casey, look out.
• 1:05:09
  We're coming for you and a good way in the best way.
• 1:05:13
  Oh my gosh, best Christmas present ever.
• 1:05:15
  Yeah, Carrie. Thank you so much for
• 1:05:19
  everything. This has been so fun.
• 1:05:21
  We love you here. And yeah, just come back.
• 1:05:24
  Like every episode we're going to miss you.
• 1:05:27
  I would love to. I I you three are really
• 1:05:30
  crushing it. I'm just tickled to be here and
• 1:05:33
  thank you for so much for playing along with this idea
• 1:05:35
  that I whipped up. I'm so glad it worked out.
• 1:05:38
  Of course. Thank you for letting us do this
• 1:05:40
  with you. Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:42
  I'm so glad we made so much money.
• 1:05:43
  It's so great. Let's do it again sometime.
• 1:05:46
  Okay. All right.
• 1:05:48
  Anytime next Christmas tradition, okay.
• 1:06:15
  We're back for the last time for this podcast has been a part of
• 1:06:24
  our like everyday life for the past since.
• 1:06:28
  No. No.
• 1:06:28
  May. Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
• 1:06:32
  And it's not ending though. We are coming back.
• 1:06:35
  We're so excited to announce that.
• 1:06:37
  We're gonna be coming back with season two on January 18th.
• 1:06:41
  Yes, January 18th, make sure you're following us on all your
• 1:06:47
  platforms. So, you know, when we drop that
• 1:06:49
  next episode, we are so excited for season two.
• 1:06:53
  We have some really good lineups.
• 1:06:56
  Oh my gosh. She just hope you all enjoy.
• 1:06:59
  We We have, we basically have a calendar for the entire next
• 1:07:03
  year. We have so many films and shows
• 1:07:05
  you want to talk about, but please always head to the Arctic
• 1:07:09
  costume blogcast.com and let us know some of your suggestions
• 1:07:13
  to, you know, next year hasn't happened yet.
• 1:07:15
  So send us some suggestions. Maybe we'll maybe, we'll agree.
• 1:07:19
  Maybe you want to see Aragon. That's fine.
• 1:07:23
  Aragon and I will use my producer power to veto that
• 1:07:27
  option. Don't listen to She's into it.
• 1:07:32
  Am I supposed clean? I'm gonna miss you all terribly,
• 1:07:38
  but I'm so excited for January. We're going to take a quick
• 1:07:42
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