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183. Shalane Flanagan, Live at the New York City Marathon · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: I feel like when I'm doing hard things, I actually
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  Speaker 1: feel more alive when I'm challenging myself, and I just
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  Speaker 1: want to, yeah, showcase to young women that sport can
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  Speaker 1: be for life and change your life for the better.
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  Speaker 1: I'm grateful that running came into my life and I
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  Speaker 1: went from an extremely shy young girl to you know,
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  Speaker 1: a moderately shy adult. Now I just felt the need
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  Speaker 1: to just do something challenging again.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on, Emily Abody? Here?
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  Speaker 3: You are listening to episode one eighty three of Hurdle
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  Speaker 3: a Well this focused podcast where I connect with everyone
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  Speaker 3: from your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs
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  Speaker 3: about their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between.
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  Speaker 3: We all go through hurdles in life, and my goal
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  Speaker 3: through these discussions is to empower you to better navigate
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  Speaker 3: yours and move with intention so that you can stride
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  Speaker 3: towards your own big potential and of course have some
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  Speaker 3: fun along the way. Now, if you can't tell if
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  Speaker 3: you're a regular listener to the show, then maybe you
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  Speaker 3: notice that my voice isn't in the best shape, and
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  Speaker 3: that is because I had a time over the weekend
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  Speaker 3: at the New York City Marathon, marathon number ten in
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  Speaker 3: the books. What an unbelievable day. The city was electric,
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  Speaker 3: and I am feeling just so inspired and motivated and
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  Speaker 3: also very very sore, and my voice has definitely been
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  Speaker 3: in a better place. I will be bringing you a
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  Speaker 3: recap of that day for this week's Hurdle Moment episode.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: But enough about me, because today I am so elated
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  Speaker 3: to bring you my conversation with Laine Flannagan. I say
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  Speaker 3: this in that episode, but she needs no introduction in
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  Speaker 3: my eyes. Just in case, though, you need to get
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  Speaker 3: cat up to speed. Selene Flanagan is a four time
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  Speaker 3: Olympic runner, a silver medalist, the twenty seventeen New York
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  Speaker 3: City Marathon champion, a coach for the Bowerman Track Club,
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  Speaker 3: and she just finished what they called to be Project Eclipse,
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  Speaker 3: which was six marathons in forty two days, all of
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  Speaker 3: them under three hours. Her fastest marathon unbelievable showing here
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  Speaker 3: in New York, the final one, the big Finale. She
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  Speaker 3: ran the New York Marathon on Sunday two hours, thirty
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  Speaker 3: three minutes, thirty two seconds. This interview has been one
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  Speaker 3: that I have wanted to do forever, but to do
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  Speaker 3: it here this weekend New York City Marathon weekend live
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  Speaker 3: in front of an audience thanks to my friends at
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  Speaker 3: inside Tracker. It was absolutely remarkable and talked about so much,
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  Speaker 3: not just project eclips and what went into this insane
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  Speaker 3: undertaking and why she even wanted to go slay six
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  Speaker 3: marathons back to back in the first place, but also
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  Speaker 3: you know how she got into running, how it was
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  Speaker 3: a part of her upbringing, what it was like for
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  Speaker 3: her to excel in college, and the sacrifices that she's
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  Speaker 3: made along the way to be so great in this sport.
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  Speaker 3: We also talk about what running is like in these days,
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  Speaker 3: having her son Jack, her philosophy, on the people that
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  Speaker 3: she surrounds herself with, how life was impacted over the
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  Speaker 3: last eighteen months as a result of the coronavirus pandemic,
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  Speaker 3: her new cookbook co authored with Elise Kopecki, and of
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  Speaker 3: course we had to talk about her recovery, her fueling
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  Speaker 3: or her nutrition, all that good stuff. There is just
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  Speaker 3: so much wisdom, advice, tidbits info about Jolaine Goodness in
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  Speaker 3: this episode. Now, as I mentioned, this episode is brought
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  Speaker 3: to you by Inside Tracker. I'm so grateful to share
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  Speaker 3: this sponsor with Salaine. They're really at the forefront of
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  Speaker 3: helping us get to better know our bodies. For those
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  Speaker 3: of you that are unfamiliar, Inside Tracker analyzes your body's
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  Speaker 3: data to provide you with a clear picture of what's
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  Speaker 3: going on inside of you and offer you science backed
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  Speaker 3: recommendations for positive diet and lifestyle changes. Now, during my
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  Speaker 3: marathon training at points, I had been feeling certainly a
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  Speaker 3: little bit sluggish, and I was pumped when inside Tracker
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  Speaker 3: and blood draw, Inside Tracker delivered a plethora of useful information,
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  Speaker 3: including the results that I used to be low in
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  Speaker 3: iron and farendin and now. What I really love about
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  Speaker 3: inside Tracker and what they do is that they work
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  Speaker 3: with you to give you tangible and clear recommendations on
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  Speaker 3: how you can positively improve things like your diet and
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  Speaker 3: your lifestyle when you're going after your goals. Now, Like
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  Speaker 2: Let's get to hurdling.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so amped today to be here with Selene Flanagan.
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  Speaker 3: I feel as though she needs no introductions. I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: she hears that line all the time, but I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to give you just a little like Top Highlights here
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  Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, NYC marathon champion feels pretty relevant to what
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  Speaker 3: we're here for this weekend, for a time Olympian Olympic
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  Speaker 3: silver medalist. Yesterday you were inducted into the New York
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  Speaker 3: Roadrunners Hall of Fame. So let's hear it for Slaine.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome today. So excited to be here with you. I
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  Speaker 3: feel as though a good way for us to kick
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  Speaker 3: off maybe a little unconventional, but I'm going to need
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  Speaker 3: some audience participation here.
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  Speaker 2: So how it's going to.
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  Speaker 3: Work is, I'm going to give you two options to
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  Speaker 3: pick which one is true about Shlaine Shelaanne. Please don't participate, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: you will raise your hand with which one you think
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  Speaker 3: is correct, and then Slaine will tell us which one
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  Speaker 3: is correct.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, dear, hopefully I don't fail this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Okay, So Shelaine's marathon pr is it either
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  Speaker 3: too twenty two fifty six or two twenty one fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: It's two twenty one fourteen for those.
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  Speaker 4: Berlin at home. Ran it in Berlin a long time ago.
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  Speaker 3: Fun fact that's less time than it takes to watch
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  Speaker 3: the New Bond movie, which is much longer than that.
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  Speaker 3: And also a fun fact, what's the one world major.
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  Speaker 1: You haven't run, Uh, well, Tokyo. I did my virtual
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  Speaker 1: Tokyo in Portland, Oregon. But yes, still have to run Tokyo.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: How many superhero muffins are in Rise and Run the
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  Speaker 3: new cookbook?
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  Speaker 2: Is it?
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know?
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  Speaker 3: Is it twenty four? It's a lot you are eighteen?
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  Speaker 3: I saw Sheeline she on that a little bit at least.
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  Speaker 2: But that's correct.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a little funny to be honest, because how
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  Speaker 3: many superhero muffin recipes were in the first cookbook?
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  Speaker 4: The first one only had one?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so have we have come a very long way
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  Speaker 1: with a superhero fandom?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, next question here, one of Sheleene's parents held the
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  Speaker 3: world record in the marathon. That's a fun fact fact.
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  Speaker 3: Is it her mom or her dad?
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  Speaker 1: Who is my mom? And does anyone know the time?
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  Speaker 1: This is how far women's distance running has come.
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  Speaker 4: This is a to me.
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  Speaker 1: Really, anyone have a guess of what time the world
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  Speaker 1: record was?
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  Speaker 4: When my mom said it?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Just just Pilsen, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, to fifty seven was the world record? Then?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: And the last question here, According to Sheelaine's former Bowerman
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  Speaker 3: Track Club, teammate Amy Cragg. This is the most nervous
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  Speaker 3: she's ever seen Slane. Was it towing the line in
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  Speaker 3: Rio or throwing out the first pitch at the Red
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  Speaker 3: Sox game?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we. I don't even think I need
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  Speaker 2: to ask them.
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  Speaker 4: Clearly, I am.
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  Speaker 1: I am a like a one trick pony athlete. I
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  Speaker 1: like running, I stick to it. Throwing is not my thing.
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  Speaker 1: So for sure being in the you know, throwing out
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  Speaker 1: the first pitch at the Boston Red Sox that was terrifying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: don't ever ask me to do that again.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you're saying a one sport athlete.
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  Speaker 3: But it seems as though you excel at a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things. So what is something you don't excel at throwing?
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  Speaker 1: I really want to be a great dancer, like hip
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  Speaker 1: hop dancing, but I don't. I don't actually think I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: In my head, I'm like really good, But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You could ask Aalise or any of my friends that
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  Speaker 1: are here what I'm not good at, and there's plenty,
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  Speaker 1: But I wish I was good at dancing.
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  Speaker 4: That's an answer.
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  Speaker 3: So you're like a hitch, stay in the safe zone.
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  Speaker 3: Side to side dancer.
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  Speaker 1: Probably yeah, yeah, oh wow with the finger guns finger
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  Speaker 1: gunger guns.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, not good?
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, I'd be remiss if I didn't start
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  Speaker 3: off with the question that everybody is wondering right now,
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  Speaker 3: which is, how are you doing really.
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  Speaker 2: At this point five marathons in now?
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  Speaker 3: Just some context quick before I let you answer this
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  Speaker 3: For those that may somehow be not aware of what's
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  Speaker 3: happening here, Selaine is about to run her sixth marathon
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  Speaker 3: in forty two days here in New York City on Tomorrow,
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  Speaker 3: November seventh.
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  Speaker 1: So, Slaine, that sounds really silly, doesn't it right when
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  Speaker 1: you say that, it sounds silly?
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, well, how you doing?
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  Speaker 4: I am tired.
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  Speaker 1: I am very tired, But you know what, like this
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  Speaker 1: has been the most fun I've ever had running genuinely.
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  Speaker 1: I think what's difficult and why I feel tired right
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  Speaker 1: now is I was on a roll. I had five
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  Speaker 1: of them really close back to back, and that kind
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  Speaker 1: of made it easy because as soon as I finished,
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  Speaker 1: I would recover and then I've got another one.
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  Speaker 4: I get amped up. But I've had three weeks kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Lingering to this one, and a lot of people are like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's like this luxurious amount of time you're gonna feel amazing.
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  Speaker 4: But the reality of my.
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  Speaker 1: Life is I have a son, I have another job
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  Speaker 1: of coaching, also writing cookbooks with a lease and the
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  Speaker 1: launch of our Rise and Run cookbooks. So there's just
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  Speaker 1: been a lot of other things that have transpired in
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  Speaker 1: the last three weeks that have enhanced my life. But
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  Speaker 1: yet also I it's made me tired. So I'm tired,
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  Speaker 1: But I feel the energy of New York, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: is unlike any other marathon. Like you arrive here and
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  Speaker 1: I get chills, I get butterflies, Like there's something magical
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  Speaker 1: about this place. So as soon as I got here,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the energy has picked up for me personally.
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  Speaker 1: Plus this place is just you know, I have an
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  Speaker 1: incredible team here with me. Elise is running her first
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  Speaker 1: marathon on Sunday as well, so a lot of motivation
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  Speaker 1: to do a good job here.
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  Speaker 3: And I know Jack is here as well. You brought
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  Speaker 3: him over to Central Park the other day. Talk to
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  Speaker 3: me about how that was being back there in this
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  Speaker 3: place twenty seventeen, big win and now in such a
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  Speaker 3: different chapter of your life with him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I think you saw me yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Describe what it was like bringing him out to Central
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  Speaker 1: Park the other night. I started crying, like immediately, could
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  Speaker 1: barely talk.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's really.
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  Speaker 1: Emotional, Like a lot has happened since twenty seventeen for
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  Speaker 1: all of us, but Jack. We adopted him in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty during the pandemic when a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 1: really tough moments. But he was like a shining light
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  Speaker 1: for my husband and I. He really, I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: made the pandemic not so terrible obviously by having him
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  Speaker 1: around and being able to spend so much time in
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  Speaker 1: bond with him, and then to just kind of bring
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  Speaker 1: him back into what I felt was like a previous
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  Speaker 1: life and to kind of have my world's intertwine.
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  Speaker 4: It's been.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really emotional because I loved that chapter
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  Speaker 1: of my life. But I'm actually so much happier now
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  Speaker 1: having him, and I just love having him around the
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  Speaker 1: people of the running community.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're just the best people, to.
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  Speaker 1: Be honest, and so I want him influenced by this community,
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  Speaker 1: and so bringing him into this has been like made
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  Speaker 1: everything just so much more meaningful, so much more depth
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  Speaker 1: to it, just like a lot more emotion in general.
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  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people look to you for
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  Speaker 3: running advice, but you have done the unthinkable by bringing
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  Speaker 3: him along with you over the last you know, forty
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  Speaker 3: one days tomorrow, day forty two. Any hot tip for
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  Speaker 3: traveling parents that he might need to know, You need.
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  Speaker 1: A Kate Burrowitz and Colleen Little and Alistko Pecky and
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  Speaker 1: Courtney White in your life.
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  Speaker 4: They're like the four Moms.
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  Speaker 1: So you need a team to be able to take
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  Speaker 1: care of children, and so I would definitely not recommend
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  Speaker 1: doing this alone. Doing it, like having Jack there with
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  Speaker 1: me has been great. He's a really good kid, I
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  Speaker 1: will say that, but he has his moments, he has
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  Speaker 1: his meltdown so, you know, face plant on the ground.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: Helped having people that really love him and help me
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  Speaker 1: be able to take care of him. But I think
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  Speaker 1: we've done things traveling because he's been with us that
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we would have done. Like when we
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  Speaker 1: were in Berlin, we went to the zoo, we went
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  Speaker 1: to the aquarium. I don't think a bunch of adults
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  Speaker 1: would have probably have gone and done that, but it
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  Speaker 1: was like it made our experience actually so much better.
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  Speaker 1: By having him and like forcing us to do things
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  Speaker 1: that we probably wouldn't have done.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I love the aquarium.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like I could see you
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  Speaker 3: being like, you know what we should do, do that, we
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  Speaker 3: should hit the aquarium exactly. Well, I've heard you, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: trust me. In preparing for this, I've listened to too
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  Speaker 3: many Jeline Flanagan podcast account I've like.
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  Speaker 2: Watched old Chileane Flanagan videos.
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  Speaker 4: I you know, I'm just like, you're tired of me already,
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  Speaker 4: not at.
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  Speaker 3: All, not at all, But in doing this, I've heard
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  Speaker 3: you say now that this experience over the last forty
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  Speaker 3: two days has truly been very different but also really
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  Speaker 3: beautiful and given you a new appreciation for run. I'd
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  Speaker 3: love if you could talk to us a little bit
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  Speaker 3: about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my relationship with running was very different as a
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  Speaker 1: professional athlete. I think I derived a lot of my
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  Speaker 1: self worth and confidence in my results, like if you
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  Speaker 1: work hard, you want it showcase by a win or
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  Speaker 1: a record, and so there was a lot of like
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I was carrying around a lot of
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  Speaker 1: weight to each run to be executed as best as
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  Speaker 1: it could be. And you know, I was driven constantly
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  Speaker 1: of like how can I be the best athlete? And
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  Speaker 1: that was just twenty four hours a day, three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and sixty five days a year for like almost twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: So now that that chapter of being a professional athlete
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  Speaker 1: and being paid to do that, and now that I'm
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  Speaker 1: not paid to be an athlete, the dynamic has drastically
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  Speaker 1: shifted and like for the better. Now running is just
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  Speaker 1: completely my own and I've described it as just being lighter,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't feel like I'm carrying this weight of
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  Speaker 1: expectation that genuinely I placed on myself.
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  Speaker 4: But now it's just a lot.
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  Speaker 1: More care free. I don't know that it's a better relationship.
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  Speaker 1: And I've enjoyed being a part of the sport, being
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  Speaker 1: with the masses. You know, that elite start line is intense.
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  Speaker 1: I when I furnished Berlin Marathon, my team was like
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  Speaker 1: how was it?
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  Speaker 4: I was like it was great.
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  Speaker 1: I made so many friends out there and they were like,
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  Speaker 1: what is what are you talking about? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: the elites don't talk to each other when we're out
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  Speaker 1: running a marathon, and so it's like two and a
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  Speaker 1: half hours in your own head, which is really dangerous.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, I got.
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  Speaker 1: To meet people and engage and it was just completely different,
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  Speaker 1: and it just I don't know, I love what I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing right now, and I'm just like excited that I
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  Speaker 1: took the leap of faith to do this challenge because
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  Speaker 1: it's changed how I look at running.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine that in those interactions you had
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  Speaker 3: like a very mixed bag, Like some people probably completely
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  Speaker 3: blindsided by the fact that you're running next to them.
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  Speaker 3: Others like very sure coming up to you. Did anyone
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  Speaker 3: like just straight up seek you out like a homing
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  Speaker 3: missile out there?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like I've had some very interesting conversations. Like one guy
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  Speaker 1: rolled up next to me and Lenny's like, dude, your
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  Speaker 1: kid is so cute. And I was like, I know right.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, Jack's awesome, gave me a fist bump,
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  Speaker 1: and then ran off. A guy in Chicago rolled up
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  Speaker 1: next to me and he's like, yo, I got some
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: of these energy bites from your cookbook.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: You want one?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: And you like pulled out of his sweaty shorts. I'm like, no, no,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I'm good. He found me at the finish He's like,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I got next one.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: You want one.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm really good. No, it's I've had
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: incredible interactions and genuinely like they're all like, like.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: I said, it's just the best people. So yeah, really fun.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: You mentioned twenty years of professional running back in college,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: you were already slaying and excelling beyond at that point.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Did you know I wanted to go pro because I
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: remember I read somewhere that you may have an arts background.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, that is true. Yeah, I was in high school.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: We had like an art major program. I grew up
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: in a little town north of Boston, and it was
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: very big in it like arts program, and so a
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: lot of people went on to be in theater. Like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I have really like famous classmates, but everyone's like art heavy. Actually,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: in fact, my best friend lives here and she works
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: for MoMA. But anyways, I basically essentially was creating art
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: portfolio to go to art school. I knew I would
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: run in college. I was recruited to go run for
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the University of North Carolina, but yeah, I didn't know
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: really what the landscape of professional running was. I'm like, wow,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that seems cool, like maybe I can do that, but
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what it would take to actually be
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: a professional runner. So in college I'm like, that would
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: be all and that would be really cool, but I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: didn't know how that would work out, to be honest.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: So it seems as though you've always found the joy
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: in running.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Would you say that's right?
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think I was a.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Really shy young girl and running gave me a tremendous
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: amount of confidence and that felt good. It felt good
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to be good at something. We all want to be
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: good at something, and so yeah, I stuck with it
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, well, I'm actually good at this.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: So I think like maybe the everyday runner would hear
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: this and they're like, wow, that sounds great. But like,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I don't always find the joy in running. Like some
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: days you go out there and you're like, wow, this
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: like really sucks. I completely feels like I've never run before.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Well, I have those days too. Well.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I remember yesterday you were saying like I had the
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: worst workout ever, and it was like two weeks.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Ago and you were like, I don't know what we're
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: going to do when we have to get to New York.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I had a really terrible workout with some
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: of the Bowerman lead athletes. That I've been kind of
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: like hopping in their workouts, and I was trying to
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: chop it up to being six forty five in the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: morning and like pouring rain and.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Such, but no, I felt terrible. But we all have
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: those days.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And literally one week later I went to go do
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a workout with that crew six forty five in the morning,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and I felt completely different. Athletes, So you just have
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to kind of ride the highs and lows, And there
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: are some days I get out there, I'm like, have
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I ever run before? I feel terrible, But I feel
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: like one thing I've learned during the pandemic is like
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: mood follows action, Like you you don't always have to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: be motivated to actually get out there, like you get
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: out there to then get motivated.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: It's been kind of like the manta.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I saw that you share that in Rise and Run
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I feel like for those individuals that those days really
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: string together is kind of when it can really feel
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: like a hurdle that's just you're unable to get over.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: So beyond riding the highs and lows, what actionable advice
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: can you offer to someone who has who struggles making
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: like regular movement a regular habit.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I genuinely believe like we all have
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: a movement that speaks to us, and it's not necessarily
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: running like that has happens to me, be my like
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: love language like movement, you know, for my dad, now
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: it's it's biking. And but I also do believe in
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: like a good variety because then it makes you appreciate
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: when you do get to go for a run. So
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: it's just being consistently active. It doesn't have to always
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: be the same sport. But I do believe that we
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: drive like a connection to some type of movement, like
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it can be danced, and some people thrive off of
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: doing it alone. Some people thrive off of like group
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: environments like now. You know, for years, I could do
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of training by my own and be completely.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Fine and enjoy it.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: But now it's like if I don't have someone to
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: run with, I'm just it's not really my thing. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: enjoy being in an environment where I'm talking and then
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I'm engaging. I look at it as like social time now,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: and I think especially with like people who are working
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a lot and like parents, like meeting up with girlfriends
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and engaging over a run and there's like a special bond.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it is, but I have this
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: seri that when you don't actually have to make eye contact,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: people will like pour their heart out to you and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: tell you the craziest stuff. So like on runs, I'm
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: always like, wow, like that was really insightful, and just
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: because I feel like the lack of eye contact actually
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: allows people to open up and maybe the movement makes
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: them more free to share.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: So for the rest of the podcast, I'm actually definably
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: not going to stare this way and not look at Slaine.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: We've heard it called before, the Slaine Landagan effect. I
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: think they called it in New York Times. You mentioned
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Barrum and track Club. Obviously a coach over there right now.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: We all, I think, as individuals, can reflect upon excellent
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: coaches and mentors that we've had in our life. But
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: these athletes that you train, they truly truly look to
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: you as a coach as a mentor. But I'm sure
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: for you you also learn so much from them.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: So if you think about.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe some of the best takeaways that you've had so
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: far in your time coaching since you I'll use these
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: quotes like retired because we've talked about what we're doing here.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: What have you learned from your athletes?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm going to be forever learning from them.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: But now that we've you know, I've flipped from being
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: where they are to now where I sit. In my view,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I feel like what I've learned is like just to
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: be a little bit more compassionate towards them, and like
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: some of the stressors that they go through, it's not
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: necessarily the physical stressors. It's more of like their mental
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: health that I'm learning that they sometimes need more of
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the mental health like and help than they do the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: actual physical Like anyone can write up the workouts and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I believe, you know, running is not super complicated, but
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I do believe that it's become more prevalent to help
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: address the mental side and mental component to have them
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: get to that next level. I think that's been neglected
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: for a long time, and so I'm learning that I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: have to not just check in like, oh, how's your
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: body feel.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Today, well like how do you feel?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Like ah, totality of the person, and I think, again
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: that has been neglected, and so I'm learning to, you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: make sure that we approach each athlete is like their
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: whole life, not and like them as a whole person,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: not just them that as an athlete.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: If that makes sense.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think like going back to the idea
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: of the effect, would you want to do you want
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: to tell us what the schleth I don't know, you.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Can call it Lindsay Krause she lives here.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: No that that article, like it made me chuckle because
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just being me and she like
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: makes me sound really cool, and I'm like, I'm not
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: really that cool, but she.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just I just believe that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: If we invest in other people, it can only elevate us.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: So and then when someone else has success, that is
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: also your success because you contributed to the success. And
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of room for people to share and to
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: be successful.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Like it's just it's fun to sho I hear that joy.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's super fun to share that joy. I'll
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: never forget. And uh, there was a research study that
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: was released that actually talked exactly about that. It talked
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: about the benefits that you get as an athlete by
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: lifting others up as you're aunt like literally in the
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: act of it. And I believe I read that study
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: very conveniently right before the twenty eighteen Boston Marathon, a
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: great time for Selene and I both, And I was
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: out there struggle city, like drenched. I think I was
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: wearing a black trash bag. It was very like, very
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: chic and just running by people. I'm so miserable, and
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you're doing great, doing so well, And I
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: mean that day, even for you, it totally came into play.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're talking about my my potty break.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I mean like I'm like hinting at that, but like
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: boasting others up has always seemed to play you well
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So I feel like dez owes me, you know, a
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: big pat on the back because she I had to
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: make a pit stop during the marathon in twenty eighteen
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: when we were all experiencing hypothermia. So I just wanted
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to duck in a porter potty to get warm real quick,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and she said, hey, I'll hang back and I'll wait
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: for you and try to slow down the field. Well
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the field, notice I went in there and they took off,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: so she hung back. But the concept is the act
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of her trying to help me, I think, then bolstered
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: her to be like, Okay, I'm fine, I'm back in it,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and she actually then was wrote history. So her act
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: of kindness towards me because earlier in the race, like
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: literally mile five, she's like, yo, I'm dropping out today,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and I was like, it's a mile five does and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, no, it's not my day.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I don't feel good, and I'm like it does. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: was like, I was like, yo, no one feels good.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: But yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I think she thought maybe like other people felt good
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, no one feels good. But then
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I think after that little interaction of the porter potty step,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: she's like, yo, yeah, a lot of people don't feel good.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe I feel better than I think.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And so it just allowed her to have a shift
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: of you know, like some positivity with it.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know, I mean not just that day,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: but throughout your career, You've obviously had races that didn't
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: go as you had hoped for so many Maybe two
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: points of advice. One, what does someone do if they're
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: in the middle of it and they realize that they
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: need to pivot, Like maybe you lace up, You're going
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: to run the New York Marathon and tomorrow like all
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: that you've got is less than you'd hoped. How does
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: someone keep going in that moment?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I can say this, I've had more mediocre, disappointing
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: races than I've had great races or exceeding my expectations.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: So the norm is like more towards like the little.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Bit disappointed, right, But yeah, pivoting is essential.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I liked it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: In my head as I approach each race that I've
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: run in my careers, I have like a list of
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: three goals so that you're not written in just like
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: obsessed with just the one goal, because then if that
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: one thing goes wrong, then you're like, oh, I'm done,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: can't do it, like you want to like just give up.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: You can't have that happen.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And so, because believe me, I've done that before, so
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I always like to list out like I got goal one,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: goal too, goal three. On the way here, Alice and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I were talking about like she's like someone talking. We
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: were talking about goals, and she's like, well, I've already
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: achieved my goal. And I'm like, wait, the gun hasn't
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: gone off because she's running on Sunday. She's like, no,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: just get to the start line healthy, Like that's my
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: number one goal. So it can be you know, really
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: big audacious goals. There can be like very concrete, just
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: like simple things like just get to the start line healthy,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that's awesome, you know. So for like me, I'd be like, Okay, yeah,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: on a perfect day, I'm winning on you know. If not,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: if I'm not winning, then maybe I'm running a PB
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: or maybe I'm placing top ten, you know. And so
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: like when things were going awry, I would just be like, Okay,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: well that's not happening. I'll go I'll move on to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: goal number two now and something to focus on, and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: like that's tangible.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: What would you say the I feel like you said
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: big Harry as describing a word for like big, hairy,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: audacious goals. What would you say, The biggest, hairyest, most
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: audacious goal you've ever set has.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Been winning the New York City Marathon by far. Yeah
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: it's hard.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I had to face Mary Katani here so many times,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and she's really just a badass.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: So yeah, this is where the world's best comes is
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: New York. Genuinely believe that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: And so then let's fast forward a little bit to
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. You making the announcement that you're going to
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: retire for you at that time, coming off of back
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: to back knee surgeries, something that so many people I'm
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: sure are in your DMS about talking about injury and
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: how to navigate that experience, which can be so lonely
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: for some. Give us some insight into where your head
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: was at when you came to terms with the fact
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: that this was.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: What was on the docket for you.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I think I was in denial that I was going
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to have to go through knee surgery. So I tried
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: everything under the sun, calling is here. She and I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: came up with like everything that we could do to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: not have surgery, because like that's the last resort option,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: but it was inevitable.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I had torn on both knees, a.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Significant amount of my patilla attendant off the bone, so
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I now have kudaver tendons and both knees screws all
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: suitured down. The prognosis was not great. I sought out
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: one of the best doctors in the world for knee
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: surgery and he asked me, like, well, what's your goal
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And I said, uh, just to be able to run again.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: And he's like, I can do that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: But he's like, I just want you to know, like
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: likely probably not any professional running, right, And I'm like, yeah, we'll.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Take that off the table.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: So I in my mind was like, man, if I
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: can just one run ever again, that would be great.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: And then two if like I could just run a
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: few times a week, maybe thirty to sixty minutes, just
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: enough to be able to like run with my athletes, like, man,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I'll be so happy. And here I am, so that's crazy. Yeah,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I think it. I had a great surgeon.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'm obviously really stubborn, and then I had great physical therapy.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I think the back half the surgeon can only do
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: so much. You really have to do a lot with
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: physical therapy it's essential, and then obviously a good diet
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and taking care of yourself.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: But upon you know, those two surgeries, I think when.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: You stripped away like physical exercise, I could not do
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: anything for like it was extremely painful. First of all
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the surgeries, they were it was really bad. But being
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: like bedridden and not being able to really move much,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: from going from being so physically active and then being
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: like inside so much, I was not good for my
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: mental health completely.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I remember just feeling.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Like like who am I this is like a former
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: shell of me and like not just not feeling good
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: So it's really was difficult time.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: For Now that you've gone through that, I'm sure that
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: you're able to recognize that there are things that you
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: can do to maybe like boost that mental health or
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: reach out a little bit more. And some reflections from that.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: So for someone that may be going through that exact
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: experience right now, what do you have to offer them?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: My mental shift was like, oh, you know, I went
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: from I can't do this, I can't do this, I
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: can't do this, feeling sorry for myself, and then I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: had to shift it and be like, well I can
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: do this, and then you know, feeding off the momentum
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: like oh I can get on crutches today, Oh I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: get to I would celebrate the little tiniest things of
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: being like oh I got out of my sweatpants today. Yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: like I took a shower today. I can do these
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: things instead of the I can't. And that just like
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: kept on just feeding on itself of like focusing on
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: what I can do instead of what I can't.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I think that, I mean, I would think that everyone's
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: probably gonna nother their head, but that's like what we
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: learned over the last you know, twelve sixteen eighteen months
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: was that we need to find those small wins and
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: take some happiness and the smaller joys. For you over
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: the last sixteen eighteen months, aside from spending more time
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: with Jack and now to complete your six marathon in
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: forty two days, what would you say have been some
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: of the small joys for you?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean it to me, the small joy is
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: like I think we took a lot of things for granted,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and so just the reemergence of the little things and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: like the sense of gratitude of just like even us
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: sitting here all together, having events where we can even
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: just giving like my friends a hug, touching one another again,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: like just like the those kind of things those have
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: been like what we're like taken for granted, joys have
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: become like huge joys to me.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: If you had to articulate maybe a high and low
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: of this marathon journey for you, what would you say
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: those are?
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Hmm high, We'll start with the highs.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite traditions that we started on this
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: whole journey with the women that I've traveled with is
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: we have champagne and fries after every marathon, so I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: always have like that to look forward to, Like I
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: get to the finish, Li'm like, oh, yes, it's champagne
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and friest time.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: So that's I'd say that's been a high.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: And like just having them there at the finish, Like
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: having people that care about you at the finish makes
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: it that much more fun and that much more motivating
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: to get to the finish line as quick as possible.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: That combined with the ability to have Jack with me
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: at all of these for the most part, he didn't
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: come to Chicago and Boston because that was a quick turnaround.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, just having that support team at the finish
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: line has been a huge low. We've probably been walking
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: in London. It was like I was in a massive
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: paint cave in London. I misjudged my pacing and the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: last like ten k five k were really really hard
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: for me, Like I was very, very uncomfortable and had
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to walk for the first time marathon. But it taught
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: me a lot, Like now I actually think I'll be
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: a better coach and giving advice for the marathon because
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I had never gotten in that bad of a place before,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: so I actually think you can turn it into a positive.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I now can like recommend, like I told the least
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: a couple of times already, I'm like, it's okay to walk.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Walking is very cool, It's great, you should walk if
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: you need more fluid, you've got a cramp. It can
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: actually go from like what could be a disaster of
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a day and maybe not finishing to then you got it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't take long. Sometimes it's just thirty seconds, and
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: it changes the whole trajectory of the actual race by doing.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: That, I mean, speaking of Elise running her first marathon
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: here in New York, a lot of other beginners, I
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: mean I would argue, if you like you're you can
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: be a beginner marathon or but if you're about to
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: go out for a marathon, then you're a pretty experienced runner.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I would hope.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: So for those that are either tackling their first marathon
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: here this weekend, or maybe thinking that one day they
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: could want to do something like that, what do you
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: tell them in terms of like maybe a best strategy
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: tip or.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean there's there's a lot of there's
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of things you could tell someone, but ultimately
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: they have to have like the desire to actually want
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: to do it, like you shouldn't do it because you
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: feel pressure to do it. There needs to be a
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: genuine desire to do a marathon because there's nothing easy
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: The training's not easy, the actual race is not easy.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: So like, you got to really want to do it,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: and you got to know your reason why you're doing it,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: and because if you don't have that, why then you
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: have a lot of lonely miles of trying to figure
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: out why you should put another foot in front of
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: in front of another. So yeah, you just you got
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: to know that reason why you want to do it
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and genuinely feel it in your in your soul.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Taking a break from today's episode to give Insidetracker a
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• 37:02
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  Speaker 2: Big, audacious goals. Thanks for that, Chalaine.
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  Speaker 3: com slash Shalaine. That like makes me think about the
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: opportunity costs that goes hand in hand with running a marathon,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: right Like, You'll talk to so many runners and especially
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: elites that talk about not being able to go to
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: family functions or weddings because they have to incorporate certain
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: training into their routine and traveling just doesn't seem to
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: be a part of it. When you think about some
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: of the opportunity costs that you've undertaken, you know, over
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: your career.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: What does that bring to mind for you?
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you have a hard goal and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: a big goal, there's always some sacrifices that go along
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: with it to try to achieve something big. And I
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: missed so many. I mean I don't think I went.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't even go to Alisa's wedding. I'm as so
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: many of you know, friends and families gatherings, and fortunately
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: they were very understanding in my my, my big, hairy,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: audacious goals. But yeah, now I now I've tried to
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: invest my time in supporting other people a lot more now.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the sport can require some selfishness to a degree,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: but it at the same time that selfishness also when
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: it does like play out, there's a lot.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Of positive that goes along with it.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Like I don't regret some of those decisions, even though
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: they were really hard to do and I felt like
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I was missing out a lot and it would make
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: me sad a lot of times. But the joy that
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I also saw when I won the New York City
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Marathon on people that care about me, their faces and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the joy it brought them, then that's just what.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: You have to weigh the cost benefit.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: It's interesting, right because I like take a step back
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and I ask myself, Slash, I'm about to ask, like
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: if you had gone through the last year and a
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: half or two, like imagine if the COVID nineteen pandemic
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: happened ten years ago, right, Yeah, and we all have
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: this like very I would say maybe a little bit
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: different of a perspective on life and everything now than
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: we did eighteen months ago. So if you think about
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: maybe some of those decisions at this point, having had
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: the experiences you have had with your family, do you
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: think that you may have made some of those same decisions.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean like missing out on some of those things. Yeah, Yeah,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: that's a really good question.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I mean I think at the same time, the pandemic
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: has also made me realize like seizing the opportunity right
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: in front of me a little bit more, not to
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: be reckless, but like you just I want to just
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: throw myself into things because, like you just, it's like
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the you never know kind of scenario. So now I
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm ending up seeing like yes to things
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that maybe I would have been like no, like wait
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: till later, wait till later. I'm like kind of not
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: in the wait till later mode. I feel like a
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: sense of urgency of when an opportunity presents itself to
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: be like Nope, now's the time.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Nope, now's the time.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I think I was like really good at delayed gratification,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: and now I'm like, I get I get a little
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: bit of worry because of the pandemic of like nope,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: we need to like capitalize and we need to do
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: it now.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: For you, I mean, this is a simple segue into
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: why you chose to take on Project Eclipse, as it's called. Now,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: why you decided to make the call to run all
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: six marathons in this short time span. Why don't you
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: shed a little bit of light on that for us?
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, there there's a short answer, and then there's like
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a really long winded answer.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: So how long is the long winded answer?
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I'll give you the short one is I would say,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the reason, like or why I'm doing it is I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: like to just say because I can, and by that
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm capable of it and I can, so
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, does that make sense like I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: because I can and not everyone can. When when the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: schedule came out and I was like, oh, wow, like
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: six marathons in forty two days. Someone to do that?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, like why would I say that?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Someone else should like why not me? So that's always
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: been like a phrase that I've had my career of
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: like so, oh that would be great to do. I'm like,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: well why not me? And I think everyone should always
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: be asking themselves like why not me? Why can't that
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: be me? And doing that? You know that that big
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: scary thing. But yeah, also I just, uh, the reason
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: more layers to it is I felt like, basically I
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: was struggling mentally and felt like very depressed during the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: pandemic and retiring and going through knee surgeries, and I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: missed having a goal I call it like the pandemic,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: like a goalless abyss. And I just felt the need
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: to do something kind of hard again. And I feel
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: like when I'm doing hard things, I actually feel more
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: alive when I'm challenging myself that and I just want to, yeah,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: showcase to young women that sport can be for life
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and change your life for the better. I'm grateful that
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: running came into my life and I went from an
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: extremely shy young girl to you know, a moderately shy
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: adult now.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: And yeah, it's it's just.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: It's changed my life for the better, and I just
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: felt the need to to just do something challenging.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Again.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: You mentioned going through that tough time of feeling a
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: little bit depressed during the pandemic. I'm sure many people
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: listening to this or watching this right now can certainly
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: relate to that. For you, having so many eyes on you,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: does that make you feel some kind of way about
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: how you're supposed to quote unquote present yourself outwardly, like
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Selene Flannagt is not supposed to be depressed.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Uh, I don't. Yeah, I don't know.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I think I just am like pretty
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: good at being genuinely myself at least I try to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: like always do a gut check of like are you
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: genuinely doing this because you want to? Or are you
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: trying to people please? And you know, to a degree,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: we all do things to you know, be a people pleaser.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I didn't.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I don't feel shy and sharing that, like, yeah, I
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: didn't feel great during the pandemic. I think more people
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: can relate to that than not, and it's understandable, you know.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: And I don't know.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I yeah, I just I believe in trying to be
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: as authentic as possible. I'm probably not great at all
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the time, but yeah, I try not to.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Worry about what people think.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: And if it is, you know, people think negative things,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Well, then we probably wouldn't be friends.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: So okay, were there any considerations going into Project Eclipse
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: that like made you.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Kind of for a second be like, wait, is this
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: the right thing?
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just generally worried maybe that I
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: would do something to my knees, and I didn't want
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to compromise the hard work that my surgeon had done
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: and my PT done and just you know, getting back
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: to a good place of actually running. So I was
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: definitely worried about that. And I was able to use
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: this Nike Sports Research Lab and they've been monitoring my
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: knees throughout the whole thing and doing scans to make
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: sure I wasn't doing any damage because at the end
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: of the day, I didn't want to be injured again,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you know. So while I wanted to do this, I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: was like, wait, can I physically really do it? Just
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: because it's here doesn't mean it's here. So that's been
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: really nice to know that, like I have that, and
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: then using inside Tracker being able to track my biomarkers
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: through my blood to make sure I'm maintaining good health
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: throughout this whole project, and then obviously eating from rise
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and run. I mean, I've got a team of people
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes to make sure. But like my ultimate
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: worrying concern was is just like staying healthy.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to be out here being.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, breaking things and just you know, looking
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: like I was reckless. I want to be able to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: promote health and wellness and taking care of yourself. And
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: so that's why I enlisted a really great support system
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: to be able to do it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're definitely highlighting something that is so important again,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: this support system. I think so often we want to
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: prove to ourselves that like, I've got this on my own,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I can do it, but sometimes reaching out for help,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: extending your hand and being like, hey, I can't do
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: this alone.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Getting to that place of admitting that is the first thing.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I think I'm actually like too good at it, I'm like,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I need help, I need help, I need help. So yeah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm an advocate. If you don't know that area,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: like get the best people around you. People have said like, oh,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the success you've had, and like it's only because I'm
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I'm honest and be like I don't know how to
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: do that, like and I need your help, Like I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: need help with this, I need help, and like not
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: being afraid to me, It's like, why wouldn't you Why
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you find the best people to help you.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Do you remember a circumstance where was there i mean,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: was there a specific time that you reflect on where
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: maybe you weren't as good at that and you kind
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: of learned a lesson about it the hard way.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a great story there. I can't think
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: of off the top of my head, but yeah, it's
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sure for absolutely has happened, and I'm sure that's
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: why now I am so.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Good at it, so good at it. Please help.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you announced that you were going to do this,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you also probably got some like feedback and
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: then maybe all so some like helpful advice or tips
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: and tricks yourself. Can you think of anyone's advice to
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: you embarking on this journey that really stands out.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I think I got a lot more like You're crazy.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: One of the big thing has just been like my
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: nutrition and trying to dial that in to make sure
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I'm getting in enough calories and monitoring that component.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: I think has been like where people have really reached out.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I think they people in general like know that I
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: understand the running component, even though this is like completely
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: new to me. I've never done anything like this, so
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it's like, how do you even prepare for it? But
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is like I've been relying
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: on my team for my nutrition has been like the
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: big one and that they've reached out, and I've been
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: really trying to listen and do a good job with that.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: We mentioned twenty four different superhero muffins in the Rise
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: and Run cookbook.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite?
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: The dark chocolate banana are probably my favorite.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: One of two superhero muffins I've ever made.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Oh nice, okay, Jogi is the original super muff super wow?
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your original muffin?
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: And then this one from Resin Roun That's a good one.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, you can't can't go wrong.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: So we're talking about the importance of nutrition. It feels
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: like a really great time for me to maybe call
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: upon Stevie from Inside Tracker. You guys had worked together
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: over the last you know, handful of months as well
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: as previous to that, and in working together, you definitely
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: learned a lot Stevie, as I said, a registered dietitian,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: and so shedding some light on what it is that
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: you've been doing and your your little journey here, Stevie,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: talk to us about what you've learned working with Shelaane.
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: She is a superhero herself. After looking at some of
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: her blood work after Boston and Chicago back to back,
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: but honestly getting more real, a little bit more scientific
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: that you can tell in her blood work since we've
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: been working together, specifically starting right after she got back
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: from the Olympics, how much her and her team have
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: really worked to dial in her nutrition and her recovery.
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: Obviously we know Shelaine Elise. They have these amazing cookbooks
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: as resources for all runners and active individuals, even anyone
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: just looking to eat a little bit healthier. So they
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: know how to eat, they know how to fuel, but
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: especially when you're taking on a big challenge. Right For
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: some people that might be go on couch to ten
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: k or for Slaine, it's doing all of these marathons
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: that when yes, you can eat healthy, you can eat
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: your vegetables and whole grains. But by using blood work,
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: blood biomarkers to inside tracker, we've really been able to
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: help guide her to take that to the next level.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: Take a closer look and see how she can continue
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: to fine tune with all of this, you know, not
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: just physical stress, but also the mental and emotional stress
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: of all the travel and momming and everything she has
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: on her plate, nutrition and kind of monitoring. Are we
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: fueling our bodies not just for all these amazing marathons,
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: but also all of the other responsibilities and things that
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: we love to make sure that we're staying healthy doing that.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: And she's done an awesome, awesome job through her blood work.
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: I was like, I had been waiting for the results
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: after all of them, and when I saw them after
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: Boston and Chicago.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh my gosh, but yeah, so can
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: we share like just a little bit. Like so, for example,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: we did a baseline test in August after the Olympics.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: It showed that I was kind of stressed after the Olympics, rightfully,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: so watching my athletes compete. And then we did a
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: test right after Berlin and London, and again some of
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: the typical markers of corgisol was spiked.
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: The as alt, ASD and alt which are enzymes that
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: also indicate muscle breakdown, muscle damage along with creatine kina
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: and as well as your inflammation. Those all went up,
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: which would be a normal response. Those will elevate right
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: after a marathon. They should start to drop back drop
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: down within seven days of completing a marathon.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: So those elevated, yes, And but then I did the
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: doubleheader of the Chicago Boston back to back, which you
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: think would be obviously kind of traumatic to the body.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: But I think I'd done a good job of like
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: adjusting after we saw some of the biomarkers kind of
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: spike up. I actually had better markers after the Chicago
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Boston just because I was a little bit more on
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: top of stuff and took the feedback and my levels
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: had dropped and in terms of some of those liker
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: ir irritations to the body essentially, which was like crazy
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: to see.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't you take an ice bath after Chicago. Yes,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: everyone goes to buy multiple, multiple baths of ice and
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: gets in an ice.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: There's just torture.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: They're terrible, but I've seen results, so I was like, ugh,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: if there's.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: One time to do it now, it would be a
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: good time.
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah it was. It was pretty remarkable to
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: see those drops. And then we did one more kind
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: of a few, like a couple of weeks, like nine
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: days after you did your virtual Tokyo, and some of
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: those marklers markers already went back down into her optimized zone,
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: which was pretty incredible and nice to see. Like, Okay,
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: yes she has all the life stress with you know,
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: rise and Run launching everything else. She's handling coaching again.
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: But everything she's done has really set herself up to
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: come into this, you know, grand finale of Project Eclipse.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Ready to go, so ready to go, no excuses here now,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: I mean one more question for you before I let
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: you go. STV is for those that are interesting. I mean,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: it's so easy right to just be like I'm going
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: to get a blood test on Tuesday, but then what
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: happens after that, Like making that appointment is literally the
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: easiest part because so many people don't follow up to
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: understand what these results mean for them.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: So why is that important? Why is it important to.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Maybe talk with a registered dietitian or maybe more in
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: depth with the physician about what we're seeing as a
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: part of getting blood work.
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great point and great question. So yes,
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: of course information is helpful. It's good to have those markers,
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: whether it's your first blood test or your fifth blood test.
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: But it's just like anything, they could just sit there
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: and then if you don't take any actions to improve them,
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: they're never going to get better. With Inside Tracker, we
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: will give you an action plan with recommendations, very easy,
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: digestible things that you can start to do, whether it's
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: through nutrition, lifestyle rest, if you choose to take supplements,
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: we give very scientific and guided supplement advice. But if
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: it's something that's still confusing to you or you're unsure
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: of how to put those actions into place in a
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: way that will benefit you, working with someone to help
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: you break it down, make it a little bit easier
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: and kind of fit your preferences, your lifestyle. Make those
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: small actions that are of course goals that are attainable
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: and achievable, so then you can start to feel better,
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: have more energy, and you know, as Shelaanne has said,
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: you know, she wants to run forever. I find that
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: testing with inside Tracker is a really really good way
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: to kind of get that longevity in sport, so you're
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: not just worrying about performance right now, but also keeping
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: an eye on your health long term as well.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for shutting you on that. Really
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: really appreciate it. I do want to go back to
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: the note that you said before about it's important to
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: have multiple goals. Right. I'm going to talk really close
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: to this microphone now while this siren goes by. So
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: that is very New York, right, sounds fine, love New York. I.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: You mentioned the importance of having three goals, right, like
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: having multiple things that you can aim for going into
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: any race. And it was so funny to me that
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: you said the number three, because I'll never forget that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: My old boss, her name is lis Plosser. She's not
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: the other in chief at Woman's Health. She always told
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: me when it comes to running. For her, she also
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: had three goals, and it was the goal that, like
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: you like put out there publicly, the goal that like
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: maybe you tell your friends and the goal you tell
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: no one, right, Like the goal that just sits like
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: right in the middle of your chest and like your
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: anxious zone.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: That's like all of your scary, big potential.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to talk a little bit about
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: where your goals are at going into New York?
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Well, the like which one I don't know.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like waiting for you to give us the big deal.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Like what everyone knows is that I want to finish
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: tomorrow for sure, finish project clips. But the one that
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm keeping closer to my chest. That would
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: be like we've all had this, hopefully where you get
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: out there and you're like, I'm having a day. I
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: feel great, and you're kind of in this state of flow.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: You're like you click off the mouse. You're like ooh,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: like that's nice. That didn't feel that hard, you know,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: and it just like comes natural and you're not forcing it.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I would love to have that kind of a day tomorrow,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: have it click feel good. You know, it's not going
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: to feel good the entire way, but just in that
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: state of flow where you can enjoy running, where it's
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: not a struggle and you have to really you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: grit down and so that I can run fast, but
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: yet I can enjoy what New York City Marathon has
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: to offer. My ultimate goal for myself is to been
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: is to like enjoy these marathons, and so I would
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: love if they coincided with just entering in that state
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: of flow where things come nice and natural and easy
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and I get to enjoy it.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: You and I have the same goal. That's so awesome. Yeah, wow, never.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Thought, never thought.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, now, as we mentioned before, you said that
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: you really try not to worry about what all the
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: other people think as you're going about, you know, your life.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Many of us follow you on Instagram. One of the
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: four hundred thousand people that follow you on Instagram, when
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: they come to your page, they see a woman that
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: has now retired, but a professional runner and a mother
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: doing a lot of really cool fun things over in Oregon.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, what is it that
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: you see looking back at you?
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: I have I don't even know who am I I
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: don't know, I mean, I have what I like? Would
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: hope that I think about myself? I don't know.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I mean I again, I just hope that like I
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: am as close to being authentically me is possible in general,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm I'm I'm I feel like
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I'm a fairly confident person and I don't know that,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: yeah that I feel good about myself and proud of
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: what I do. I try to, yeah, do things that
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I feel like we should at times,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: like you can look to other people for inspiration, but
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like hopefully we all
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: like find inspiration in what we do. So hopefully, like
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: you know, when I look at myself like and be like, yeah,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: that was that was good.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: You're doing a good job.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: You're doing a good job.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna take this opportunity right now.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: We have thumbs up in the bacheline's doing great.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this opportunity right now to open up
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: for about like ten to fifteen minutes to audience questions.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: We do have a microphone that they will bring you.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: But what will happen is they will bring you the microphone,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: you will ask it, I will reiterate it, and then
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: we will move forward. So this is your big moment
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: right now, really to get outside of.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Your comfort zone.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: A Slane's done many times and maybe ask her a question,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: So feel free to raise your hand.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I'll go with Audrey front right.
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: Hi both of you. First of all, thank you so
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: much for this today. This has been so exciting and great.
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: My name's Audrey. I'm from Boston. I know that you
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: still have to run tomorrow, but I was wondering what's
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: been your favorite marathon throughout this project and.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Why Audrey wants to know what Slaine's favorite marathon has
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: been from Project Eclipse.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: The one thus far.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I think tomorrow is probably gonna be my favorite, but
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: just projecting that, but thus far, it's actually one that
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: surprised me because I was basically the race director of it.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: It was the virtual Tokyo in Portland. I had very
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: low expectations just because there was going to be it's
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: not a real race a lot. There was no you know,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: typical enthusiasm of crowds and other runners.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: It was basically just myself.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: And my family and my team of people supporting me
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: out on this island called Savvi Island outside of the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: city of Portland, where there's pumpkin patches and farms and cows,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: and it's it's very beautiful, and I've trained on it,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: you know, for years now, and I just was like
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: really tired going into it, thinking, oh, I just don't
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: have a lot of energy and it won't be that
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: fun just because it's not a real race with other people.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: But it was actually my favorite. I had so much fun.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: It was you know, Nike was great. They set up
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: the course for me. I got to pick out where
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I wanted to run it, how I wanted to run it, made.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: My own bib that said Jack's Mom. I got my
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: own playlist of music.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: I even had one of my athletes hop in for
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: a good chunk towards the end, Courtney Ferris, who's Olympic
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: silver medalist, you know, no big deal, and yeah, we
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: just and Jack was there and it was just a blast,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Like we had so much fun putting it together and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: just dictating, you know, whenever I wanted to start was
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: when we started. It was very chill and relaxing, and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't think I was going to enjoy
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: it as much as as I did.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: Two things to double click on from that response.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: The first thing is like referencing Courtney as being Olympic
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: silver medalist, so it's like there's two Olympic silver medalists
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: just out for a run, and of course that's unsanctioned.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't get.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Anything blocked off. So there's cars going by.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Does anyone realize what's happening as they drive by you?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: Well, we had Yeah, I have the cutest Nike team.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: One of one of the guys had like one of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: those you know, reflector vests, and he would hop out
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: of his car and he'd act like he knew what
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: he was doing, like directing traffic, and so that was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: really cute.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: We even had like like tent.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Porta potties, Like it wasn't a real porta potty. It
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: was like I don't I don't even know, like a bucket,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: but it had like a tent over it, and like
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: we had even that we had a fire pit.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: I mean it was It was very cool.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: And you mentioned a DIY playlist. Oh yeah, can we
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: talk about the playlist?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kate, I think contributed so to Colleen. It
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: was like a conglomerate of you know, everyone's taste of music.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: Even my dad had a few songs in there. Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I think my favorite one is American Woman by Lenny Kravitz.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: That was my favorite on there, so.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Well goes to update my marathon playlist before tomorrow. Okay, okay,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: next question hands up? Yes, right here.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Hi.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 8: I'm Fabriana from Missouri or I've lived in New York
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 8: for about eight years now. I love your post race
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: champagne and FRI's ritual. I was wondering if you have
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: a favorite pre race dinner the night before and or
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 8: like pre race ritual that's not nutrition related.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Fabriana wants to know about your pre race dinner or
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: tradition situations.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in general for marathons, you stick with like
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: tried and true. Unfortunately, you don't not want to be
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: experimenting very much. So like I've been eating very boring
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: these last few days just because I'm trying to just
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: stick with safe foods, and it is rice, chicken and
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: sweet potatoes. I go to ritual. I am very much
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: like an organized person. So the night before I my
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: bag is already packed. I've literally got the kit ready
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: to go. I don't want to have to think. I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: want to go on automatic pilot the next morning and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: not be scrambling.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: So my pre race ritual is like early to bed.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe a nice bat if I need it, and just
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: being like very organized all even like right out, like
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: at what time I should take a sip of coffee,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Like It'll be that detailed.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: If I need it to be.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: But I'll work back from like gun time all the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: way from when I wake up and I list out
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: everything I'm going to need to do and what time
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: buses all that, so that, yeah, I'm not like stressed
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: before I get to the start line. I want to
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: like run a race before I run my race, So
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: that's kind of like my my thing to get centered
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: and organized.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: And when you're traveling, are you staying in hotels? Are
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: you staying places where you'd be able to make your
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: own food.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: No, we have just been having to like do a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: lot of research and scramble to just try to find
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: the right foods. But I have been packing a lot
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: of Superhero muffins and the race date oatmeal that transports
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: really well the dinner situation, obviously they need a little
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: more fresh. Not going to be taking that all over
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: the world with me. But yeah, a lot of like
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: our breakfast stuff is what I've been snacking on and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: taking with me because it's really easy to like transfer
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: and port YEP.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Another audience question. I see one over here on the left.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Hi. I'm Jen.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: I'm from north of Boston as well, grew up in Hamilton,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 9: love It, just up the street from Marblehead. But my
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 9: question for you is, can you just run us through
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 9: what the logistics were like in terms of thing from
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 9: Chicago to Boston, Because I feel like you must have
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 9: really had to hustle and I've kind of always imagined
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: what that plane, that flight must have been like for
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: all the other athletes that were doing Chicago Boston.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: Can you just walk us through what those forty eight
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: hours were like for you.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Jen wants to know, Jen, Yeah, Jen wants to know
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: what it was like getting quickly from Chicago to Boston.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the quicker I finished in Chicago is the like
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: easier and you know, pad time to get everything manipulated.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we picked out a pretty tight schedule to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: make sure I got into Boston so that I had
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: like a little time to decompress, get you know, get
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: some food, and get some you know, like a light
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: massage with my pet who's been traveling. So that allowed
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: me to I didn't want to be getting in at
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: like eleven PM and then having to get up at
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: like four A. It was a really tight turnaround. So
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: I think the thing is, is we as soon as I finished,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I think we took Yeah, we took like a cart,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: like a I don't know whatever, what.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Is it called golf cart. Took a golf cart right.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: From the finish line to the hotel, ran in, rinsed
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: off real quick, didn't even wash my hair, rinsed off.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: A car was waiting on the backside of the hotel because
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: all the streets were like shut down, so to try
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: to get to where we need to go to get
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: to the airport, that was like strategically placed the van
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: and then we all piled in everyone that was with me.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: In fact, my friend who was going to be running
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: with me in Boss and he works for Nike and
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  Speaker 1: was an old teammate of mine.
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  Speaker 4: He was there. So we got everyone on the van,
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  Speaker 4: loaded up.
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  Speaker 1: Nike and some of my support team already had like food,
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  Speaker 1: we had smoothies in there, just chugging and trying to
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  Speaker 1: get like refueled and rehydrated as quick as possible. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the van ride was just consumption of food and beverages
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  Speaker 1: as much as possible. Got to the airport, and I
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  Speaker 1: think we actually had some like a luxurious amount of time.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like super stressful, just because everything was so
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  Speaker 1: organized and detailed, and ate some more food in the airport,
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  Speaker 1: got on the plane, took a nap, got off, went
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  Speaker 1: straight to the hotel as soon as we got in,
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  Speaker 1: more food, more drinks, and I had a massage and
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  Speaker 1: some work done with my pt Colleen, ice bath and
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  Speaker 1: then to bed and then it was maybe like seven
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  Speaker 1: hours later, maybe six hours later, back up again to
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  Speaker 1: do it all over.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, it was smooth.
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  Speaker 1: It could have, you know, could have easily have been
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  Speaker 1: really stressful, but I think because we planned everything out
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  Speaker 1: so well it was it wasn't that bad.
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  Speaker 3: So the answer to your question is Seline flew commercial.
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  Speaker 3: She didn't have a private job. Yeah, to go to Boston. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'll take another audience question.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, I'm Sarah. I'm from California. And my question. You've
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  Speaker 5: talked about your nutrition, your rest, your recovery to get
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  Speaker 5: you through the last forty one days. What's kept you
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  Speaker 5: in the mental game from day one all the way
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  Speaker 5: through tomorrow. If you've had mental hurdles, mental struggles, you know,
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  Speaker 5: is it visualization, is it recognition of your you know past?
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  Speaker 5: What is it that keeps you in the mental game.
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  Speaker 3: Sarah is a hurdler who won a spot to come
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  Speaker 3: here and hang out with you today, but she wants
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  Speaker 3: to know about what keeps you in the game mentally
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  Speaker 3: here right now after forty one days and twenty ten hours.
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  Speaker 1: For me, right now is like I'm having fun doing
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  Speaker 1: what I'm doing, So like there's.
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  Speaker 4: Not an element of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Like I like to describe running now is like I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go play running.
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  Speaker 4: It shouldn't feel like like you have to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I know it sounds weird because it's like it's an
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  Speaker 1: individual thing, but it should feel like you're playing to
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  Speaker 1: a degree, there should be an element of fun in running.
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  Speaker 1: And so like I try to assess, like, well, what
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  Speaker 1: seems fun for my running today and different days, Like
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  Speaker 1: certain things seem more fun than others. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know this To me, this challenge seem fun. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize how much I was gonna have, like how much
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  Speaker 1: joy it was going to bring me.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, ah, that that could be really cool.
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  Speaker 1: And but yeah, so I like to try to phrase
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  Speaker 1: it in my head like I'm gonna go play running today.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, for me, getting new challenges is what
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  Speaker 1: keeps me in the game. Right now, I think having variety,
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  Speaker 1: doing doing things on the roads. But you know, my
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  Speaker 1: next thing that I think I want to do is
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  Speaker 1: doing some more stuff on the trails. Like I live
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  Speaker 1: in a beautiful part of the country in Oregon and
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  Speaker 1: there's incredible access to trails, and so just doing more
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  Speaker 1: more girlfriend type trips and involving trails, to me, that
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  Speaker 1: seems fun and that's what like keeps me intrigued in
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  Speaker 1: in the in the game.
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  Speaker 3: We've the last couple of questions have focused on mental
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  Speaker 3: health for someone who's like just so in their head,
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  Speaker 3: whether maybe it's like maybe it's before you know, a
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  Speaker 3: regular run, or maybe it's before a marathon and they're
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  Speaker 3: psyching themselves out, they're freaking out. What is it that
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  Speaker 3: you say to yourself when maybe that kind of creeps
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  Speaker 3: into your ecosystem.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I try to look at it as like I don't have
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  Speaker 1: to do this, Like I get to do this, Like
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  Speaker 1: it's just all about like rephrasing it, like I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to go run tomorrow, but I get to Like
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  Speaker 1: that's a privilege, Like I stand on the start line
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  Speaker 1: and there should be a deep sense of gratitude and
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  Speaker 1: like this is a privilege to be able to do this,
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  Speaker 1: Like not everyone can do this, Like and especially coming
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  Speaker 1: from a time where I thought like I wouldn't really
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  Speaker 1: be able to run, it's like even more so, like
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  Speaker 1: the gratitude is tremendous. So if you're like too much
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: inside your head, like you got to be thinking about like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: this is a privilege.
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  Speaker 4: I bet you.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many people that you could list out that
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: would wish they were me right now. So like that
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  Speaker 1: should just give you a good sense of like gratitude
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  Speaker 1: and excitement for.
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  Speaker 4: What you're about to do.
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  Speaker 3: Hands raised in the audience for who would like to
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: be Shalaine for a day? Yeah, Okay, that's what I
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: had a hunch. The way that I end the show
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: every time is asking my guests about how they would
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  Speaker 3: perhaps offer themselves a piece of advice looking back on
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: a hurdle moment in their journey. For you, you talked
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: about the difficulty that came hand in hand with the
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: beginning of the pandemic, the surgeries, the emotional toll it
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: took on you. What piece of advice, would you Slaine
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  Speaker 3: right now? November sixth, twenty twenty one. I have to
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: think about the date for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Give to Slaine at that time, during that hurdle moment.
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  Speaker 1: Looking back on it, Yeah, just not take anything for
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  Speaker 1: granted and really like be in the moment. Like a
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: lot of people have been asking, like, what are you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: going to do next? I'm like, I don't know. I'm
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: living in the moment. So definitely just appreciating what you're
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: doing at this moment. Sometimes I think we're so going
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: oriented past what we're doing, so yeah, let's give it.
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  Speaker 3: Up for Slaine. This was absolutely amazing. Thanks everyone, really
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: appreciate you coming here to join us today. A huge
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: thank you to Inside Tracker for hosting us. I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: be more grateful. I had to put like take off
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: my fangirl moment to like have this here with you today,
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  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna put it back on for tomorrow because
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's gonna help me on my way.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: But thanks to everyone for coming, and thanks to Shlaine for.
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  Speaker 2: All of your wisdom. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Emily, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.