Latest / Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast / ⚓️ Below Deck S13 Premiere + 🍊RHOC Emotional Tokyo Fallout
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Drama, darling. Drama, darling. Drama, darling.
- 0:19Speaker 2: It's a double episode, darlings. We have Below Deck, the original,
- 0:24Speaker 2: season 13, premiere, and... A very emotional episode of The
- 0:29Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Orange County. Holy smokes. Well, joining me
- 0:36Speaker 2: is Emily Dresis. Welcome in, Emily. Welcome in, darlings. Hello.
- 0:41Speaker 3: Hello. Hi.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Hi.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Are you ready to recap what we have ahead of
- 0:46Speaker 2: us today?
- 0:48Speaker 3: Yes, Bronwyn.
- 0:51Speaker 2: It's like a crossover between like Bronwyn on NPR. It's like,
- 0:54Speaker 2: are you ready to talk about that?
- 1:00Speaker 3: I'm ready.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Yay.
- 1:03Speaker 3: That's great.
- 1:04Speaker 2: So basically, I think we should do below deck first because,
- 1:09Speaker 2: you know, a lot of moving parts, a lot of
- 1:11Speaker 2: new people, a lot of old people. Make new friends,
- 1:14Speaker 2: but keep the old deckies. One is silver and the
- 1:17Speaker 2: other is green. Fraser. Welcome in, Fraser.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Hi, welcome in.
- 1:25Speaker 2: I'm so happy he's back, obviously. I mean, he's a staple.
- 1:30Speaker 2: He's now in the fabric of our lives with Below Deck.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Like cotton.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:35Speaker 3: The fabric of our lives.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Nice.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Fraser.
- 1:40Speaker 2: He's going to be there for our lives because we've got,
- 1:44Speaker 2: you know, originally Hannah, Kate, Daisy, and Aisha, and Fraser.
- 1:51Speaker 2: And these are the ones.
- 1:53Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:54Speaker 2: These are our leaders on the ocean.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Well, also, let's not forget that Fraser suffered a pretty
- 2:02Speaker 3: crazy health issue with that, I think that heart attack
- 2:06Speaker 3: with the vaping, remember?
- 2:09Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That's right.
- 2:12Speaker 3: So we're lucky that he's here, is what I'm saying.
- 2:15Speaker 2: We are lucky he's not only here, but looking fabulous,
- 2:19Speaker 2: looks like feeling fabulous, and You know, fresh on a
- 2:23Speaker 2: break from Matt Rogers, celebrity couple alert.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Right. So this was filmed in June and July. I'll
- 2:32Speaker 3: tell you what happened, Lisa. June and July of 2026.
- 2:38Speaker 3: And I thought he and Matt, I thought Matt Rogers
- 2:41Speaker 3: said that they were done because of Fraser's health issues.
- 2:46Speaker 4: Right.
- 2:47Speaker 3: But this would have been after that.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Because of Fraser's health issues. Yeah, I can't be with
- 2:52Speaker 2: you because you're unhealthy. No, I remember that that happened.
- 2:57Speaker 2: But here's what we needed. We needed Fraser to tell us,
- 3:02Speaker 2: at least at this point, that they're on a break,
- 3:05Speaker 2: it sounds like. And they still have love for each other.
- 3:07Speaker 2: And they talk whenever they can and so on and
- 3:09Speaker 2: so forth. Whether that's like a PR statement, I'll buy
- 3:13Speaker 2: it and I'm fine with it. I imagine they're probably talking.
- 3:18Speaker 3: I think that those handcuffs are open. Yeah. You know
- 3:23Speaker 3: what I mean?
- 3:24Speaker 2: They are like, look, Matt's like, I'm going to shoot this.
- 3:28Speaker 2: I'm doing that. You're going to shoot this. Let's be realistic.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Yeah. There are multiple keys to the handcuffs. Have at it. Everybody.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Have fun. And I'll see you on the other side.
- 3:40Speaker 2: We're young people.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:41Speaker 2: You know, we're Americans. No, wait, no, actually.
- 3:45Speaker 3: No.
- 3:45Speaker 2: They're not both. No. I was trying to quote David
- 3:48Speaker 2: Bowie and it went horribly wrong. Like, when have I
- 3:51Speaker 2: ever tried to quote David Bowie and young Americans? Never.
- 3:54Speaker 2: And then when I do, one of them isn't an American. So,
- 3:57Speaker 2: you know, stop being disgusting.
- 4:00Speaker 3: Disgusting.
- 4:03Speaker 2: So, yeah, I mean, look, whatever is going on is fine.
- 4:06Speaker 2: I'm just like you said, I'm glad he's OK.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:10Speaker 2: You don't want to see a hospital pic of anyone
- 4:13Speaker 2: on Bravo. You know, you just don't want to see
- 4:15Speaker 2: that put up on there. And quite frankly, we get
- 4:17Speaker 2: them a lot. A lot. With peace signs. They're in
- 4:21Speaker 2: their hospital gown. You don't know how serious. His was serious.
- 4:26Speaker 3: His was serious.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:28Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was vaping. Yeah, it was.
- 4:31Speaker 3: That's what I remember.
- 4:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 4:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:34Speaker 2: At least that's what we're told.
- 4:36Speaker 3: That's what we've been told. Yeah.
- 4:38Speaker 2: That's what we're going to go with, like clearly.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 4:42Speaker 2: So anyway, Fraser's back. Rainbow is back on board. How
- 4:48Speaker 2: about that?
- 4:49Speaker 3: Okay, bravo. This is where I'm like, you are walking.
- 4:55Speaker 3: As an audience, we're all concerned.
- 4:58Speaker 2: I know. I was like, wow, they're going to bring
- 5:01Speaker 2: this back, this liability. That's amazing. Like, Whoa, she was having,
- 5:06Speaker 2: I mean, remember the vacuuming? She's already in a fetal
- 5:11Speaker 2: position in her room.
- 5:13Speaker 3: You might need Bish Therapist to recap this season because
- 5:16Speaker 3: I'm just like.
- 5:17Speaker 2: You're not equipped. We're not equipped.
- 5:20Speaker 3: She's not equipped. No, she's not equipped. Also, Bish Therapist
- 5:23Speaker 3: might not be equipped. I mean, this is a terrible idea.
- 5:26Speaker 3: It's really bad.
- 5:28Speaker 2: And Fraser's like, oh, thank gold. Oh, fantastic. And it's like, no, no.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Like deep down, he's putting on a brave face because
- 5:36Speaker 2: I'm sure he thinks like, this is not a good idea,
- 5:40Speaker 2: but it's great for the show. But overall, I don't know.
- 5:44Speaker 2: She was a hard worker. We know that. We knew
- 5:47Speaker 2: she took her job seriously. I feel confident that she's
- 5:51Speaker 2: going to do the work so much so that she's
- 5:53Speaker 2: going to like, you know, implode.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:57Speaker 2: On the first charter, should we say?
- 6:00Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's, She does all the work, which
- 6:04Speaker 3: is like too much because I don't think she's the
- 6:07Speaker 3: kind of person that can see a speck of dust
- 6:10Speaker 3: on a different yacht and not become obsessed about it
- 6:13Speaker 3: from two boats over and be like, we've got to
- 6:16Speaker 3: do it. We've got to get to that piece of dust.
- 6:19Speaker 3: We've got to get over there.
- 6:20Speaker 2: And also, she's not good at giving tasks to other people.
- 6:27Speaker 2: She is a micromanager. She needs to outgrow that. She
- 6:30Speaker 2: needs to move out of that realm and delegate to
- 6:35Speaker 2: the best that she can, but trust in the delegation.
- 6:38Speaker 2: I mean, I could completely understand why that Stu was
- 6:44Speaker 2: having a problem from her right off the bat when
- 6:46Speaker 2: she was trying to like go to bed. And the
- 6:49Speaker 2: Stu's just like, I've done this loads of time. You
- 6:52Speaker 2: need to trust me. Please go to bed.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Go to sleep. Go to sleep.
- 6:56Speaker 2: She's practically Bethany, Bethany-ing her.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Right.
- 7:01Speaker 3: And my concern here is that, total Bethany, my concern
- 7:06Speaker 3: here is that I've now noticed a pattern with Rainbow
- 7:09Speaker 3: in that on the last charter she was on, remember
- 7:14Speaker 3: she was blaming like her sisters and how she was
- 7:16Speaker 3: raised for her meltdown? Right. Yeah. Like when she's going
- 7:22Speaker 3: to punch Frenchie.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Yeah, when she was going to.
- 7:25Speaker 3: And then this, and now this time, She's like, I've
- 7:28Speaker 3: learned so much. And now she's putting it all on
- 7:31Speaker 3: her trauma, she said. And the trauma is working with
- 7:36Speaker 3: Frenchie and whatever. I can't remember that gal's name, the stew.
- 7:41Speaker 3: But like not putting any logic around it at all,
- 7:45Speaker 3: which was that that gal, Frenchie, was a Love Island
- 7:50Speaker 3: contestant and had never worked on a yacht. Remember she like,
- 7:54Speaker 3: I got trained in a warehouse.
- 7:56Speaker 2: Oh my God. She was like, I did the course online.
- 7:58Speaker 2: It was a, you know, an all day thing. It
- 8:02Speaker 2: was so hard because it was all day. And I
- 8:04Speaker 2: had to log in and I had a problem. And
- 8:06Speaker 2: then it's like, they're just showing us the water and
- 8:10Speaker 2: the interior. So, but I did good. I pass.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Yeah. So like, Rainbow, like, that is not this. So
- 8:19Speaker 3: I guess I'm just like, there's always going to, to me,
- 8:22Speaker 3: that just screams like, okay, we've got, this is a
- 8:25Speaker 3: red flag situation here with Rainbow because she's never going
- 8:27Speaker 3: to be able to fully contextualize a situation. It's immediate
- 8:33Speaker 3: panic mode, anxiety.
- 8:35Speaker 2: And she was in the right with our Love Island
- 8:40Speaker 2: French gal in many ways. Yes.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Yes.
- 8:43Speaker 2: But, you know, here we are kind of already and
- 8:46Speaker 2: she has someone that clearly knows what they're doing and
- 8:50Speaker 2: she isn't able to, look, it's the first time. I
- 8:53Speaker 2: think after we get through this night, let's see how
- 8:56Speaker 2: she does the following night. Because, I mean, however, you know,
- 8:59Speaker 2: she's on 90s. I love at the beginning when Fraser
- 9:02Speaker 2: always gives all the assignments and it just sounds so
- 9:05Speaker 2: cute because I love the British language sometimes. I'm like, Hey,
- 9:08Speaker 2: your night teas, your morningsies, your snackies and dovesies, and
- 9:12Speaker 2: you've got beddies and sheetsies and laundriesies. Everything is just
- 9:16Speaker 2: so cute, you know? Ooh, Emily, I was so excited
- 9:19Speaker 2: for us because it looks like there's going to be
- 9:21Speaker 2: a little bit of drama in the laundry room. Already,
- 9:24Speaker 2: we have too many towels in the dryer.
- 9:26Speaker 4: Yes.
- 9:26Speaker 2: And I immediately was like, check the lint catcher.
- 9:32Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely.
- 9:34Speaker 2: It's crazy how that can really stop up a drying cycle,
- 9:37Speaker 2: you know?
- 9:38Speaker 3: And cause a fire. I mean, that's the other part
- 9:44Speaker 3: of that. Thank you.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Here she comes. Safety first.
- 9:49Speaker 3: Oh, don't get me. Believe me. Speaking of red flags,
- 9:52Speaker 3: big safety issue in OC, but we'll talk about it.
- 9:54Speaker 3: We'll get there.
- 9:55Speaker 2: On it. Emily, slow your roll.
- 9:58Speaker 3: I was worried that people wouldn't tune out. So I
- 10:01Speaker 3: just need them to know that the safety red flag
- 10:04Speaker 3: is coming, everybody.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Oh, everybody, don't worry. If you're waiting for your safety lesson,
- 10:08Speaker 2: you're on the edge of your seat. Also know that
- 10:10Speaker 2: it was a red flag warning up here in Santa
- 10:12Speaker 2: Clarita for wind yesterday. Boy, was it whipping hard.
- 10:17Speaker 3: So clean out your lunch traps.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Yeah because you don't want to fire no.
- 10:22Speaker 3: You don't want to fire in that wind i'll.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Tell you what that lint is is turning into tumbleweeds
- 10:28Speaker 2: up here it is nuts actually i mean no today
- 10:33Speaker 2: today you would have never thought that yesterday was what
- 10:36Speaker 2: it was i looked out not one leaf of flying
- 10:42Speaker 2: it's still as a it's it's as still as the
- 10:45Speaker 2: calm before the storm hey that's my book thanks for
- 10:49Speaker 2: the plug.
- 10:50Speaker 3: So, do you think that your house will leave the
- 10:52Speaker 3: dock today? This is so calm.
- 10:54Speaker 2: I don't know. The engine in the thrusters ain't working.
- 10:58Speaker 2: And I don't know why we didn't try it earlier.
- 11:02Speaker 2: But I don't know if we're going to. Let's try
- 11:05Speaker 2: it one time.
- 11:06Speaker 4: No.
- 11:06Speaker 2: How about another?
- 11:07Speaker 3: No.
- 11:08Speaker 4: All right.
- 11:09Speaker 2: If it doesn't work two times, it's not going to
- 11:11Speaker 2: work a third. Let's try it again. All right. One's working.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 11:14Speaker 3: What happened? I don't even know.
- 11:18Speaker 2: It's scary.
- 11:20Speaker 3: When Captain Cary started introducing us to the boat and
- 11:24Speaker 3: he was really excited about the new interior with a TV,
- 11:28Speaker 3: by the way, in the middle of the room. Sure did.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Caught it.
- 11:33Speaker 3: So then I realized that it was a much older boat.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Yes. Well, and he told us that too.
- 11:40Speaker 3: Right. Right. And then I got worried. I'm like, how
- 11:43Speaker 3: are you going to redo this whole room, put a
- 11:45Speaker 3: TV in it, and not update the engines? I know.
- 11:49Speaker 2: So when they were like, it's an old boat.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Okay.
- 11:52Speaker 2: And then now we got thruster problems already.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:55Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, you're going out. Are you sure going
- 11:58Speaker 2: to be able to come back?
- 12:00Speaker 3: Yes.
- 12:01Speaker 2: That's the problem. I guess you just sort of worry
- 12:04Speaker 2: about that.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Dragged in.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Dragged in.
- 12:06Speaker 3: Get a tugboat.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Drag me, Monique.
- 12:09Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be a great name for a boat? Yes.
- 12:12Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Drag me, Monique. You guys, welcome to the SS. Drag me, Monique.
- 12:19Speaker 3: I'm going to name my canoe that.
- 12:23Speaker 2: I'm going to name my swan raft that. Oh, Captain Kerry.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Love to see him back. It seems to me like
- 12:35Speaker 2: he loves the layout of this boat, but they have
- 12:38Speaker 2: to lean into something because clearly they're not thrilled about
- 12:43Speaker 2: necessarily the modernization of this boat. But it seems to
- 12:46Speaker 2: me like this is something that will work in Thailand well,
- 12:51Speaker 2: maybe because it can maneuver a little easier. It's smaller.
- 12:55Speaker 2: It can get into those parking spots that you wouldn't
- 12:59Speaker 2: be able to normally do.
- 13:00Speaker 3: That's a great point.
- 13:01Speaker 2: I hadn't even thought about that.
- 13:03Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Thank you, Emily. I appreciate that.
- 13:04Speaker 3: We got one. We got one. We got a great point.
- 13:08Speaker 3: We did it. Yeah, because he's already concerned about all
- 13:12Speaker 3: the traffic going on and all the things to work around.
- 13:16Speaker 3: So that makes sense.
- 13:17Speaker 2: He is dangerous over there, Emily. The way he explained that,
- 13:20Speaker 2: he's like, Thailand is this magical place. It's like really
- 13:23Speaker 2: won't go in the chocolate factory. You go in there,
- 13:25Speaker 2: you don't know what's going to happen. You bring your boat,
- 13:28Speaker 2: you don't know if it's going to come out. Oompa
- 13:31Speaker 2: Loompas are everywhere. They're swimming around. The boats are going
- 13:33Speaker 2: every which way. You don't know if they're coming or going.
- 13:38Speaker 2: And you're going to die. There are also murderers around
- 13:40Speaker 2: every corner. So, look, have your head on a swivel.
- 13:44Speaker 3: What? And then he yelled at the staff, the crew, to, like,
- 13:52Speaker 3: if you're not careful. I was like, you're already blaming
- 13:55Speaker 3: them for whatever the fuck is going to go down
- 13:57Speaker 3: in time. Yeah.
- 14:00Speaker 2: He's like, the blood is on your hands.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Not Bravo. Do you understand?
- 14:04Speaker 2: No. No. Not me. Not Rainbow. Certainly not Rainbow.
- 14:10Speaker 3: Right?
- 14:13Speaker 2: But it's going to be on you, Fraser. Not Rainbow.
- 14:18Speaker 2: Maybe Chef Mo. Maybe Elex, the bosun. Not sure about him. Matthew,
- 14:25Speaker 2: the lead dickhand. James Bishop. As you can see, I'm
- 14:29Speaker 2: running through the cast list. Jacena, a.k.a. Aina? What did
- 14:37Speaker 2: she call herself?
- 14:39Speaker 3: Oh, Jacena. Jacena is her name, right? And then she
- 14:45Speaker 3: wants to be called Jacenia.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Jacenia.
- 14:47Speaker 3: Jacenia, yeah.
- 14:49Speaker 2: So she's like Sen or something.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Kaylee. Kaylee? Kaylee?
- 14:59Speaker 2: Okay, I have to tell you guys about something that's
- 15:01Speaker 2: happening in my house right now that's giving me so
- 15:03Speaker 2: much joy. Tin can. Have you heard of it? It's
- 15:07Speaker 2: a phone, a landline phone. Okay, so my daughter has
- 15:12Speaker 2: wanted a tin can for, I am not exaggerating, about
- 15:16Speaker 2: a year because some of her friends have them. She's
- 15:19Speaker 2: been asking about it. I've been putting it off. Well,
- 15:23Speaker 2: guess what? We finally got one and you guys, she
- 15:26Speaker 2: absolutely loves it. And I think I might love it
- 15:29Speaker 2: even more because if you haven't seen Tin Can yet,
- 15:32Speaker 2: it's basically this adorable retro landline phone for kids. No screen,
- 15:38Speaker 2: no texting, no algorithms. It's literally just a phone being
- 15:42Speaker 2: a phone, which apparently is now revolutionary. I had to
- 15:45Speaker 2: teach my daughter how to pick up the phone and
- 15:47Speaker 2: say hello. And also how to leave a voicemail. Like
- 15:51Speaker 2: you guys, it's amazing. And here's the part that I
- 15:54Speaker 2: was not expecting. I'm watching my daughter experience all these
- 15:57Speaker 2: little things that were such a huge part of my childhood.
- 16:01Speaker 2: The phone rings like a phone on the hook. She
- 16:06Speaker 2: hears it. She goes running to answer it because she
- 16:08Speaker 2: has no idea who it is. It could be one
- 16:11Speaker 2: of her friends. It could be one of her family members.
- 16:14Speaker 2: She's not sure. But do you remember that? You just
- 16:16Speaker 2: answer the phone. And the other day I looked over
- 16:19Speaker 2: and she was talking on her tin can, twirling herself
- 16:22Speaker 2: up in the phone cord. You guys, I almost died.
- 16:25Speaker 2: I was like, wow, that's me. It is the cutest,
- 16:29Speaker 2: strangest little time warp. And this is my iPad loving child, okay?
- 16:33Speaker 2: Who knew that a retro phone with a cord would
- 16:36Speaker 2: be this exciting? And what I love is she's actually
- 16:39Speaker 2: talking to people. She's been calling her grandparents more and
- 16:42Speaker 2: having these real conversations with them. And she gets that
- 16:45Speaker 2: little bit of independence. Well, I still get the parental controls.
- 16:49Speaker 2: With Tin Can, kids can only call or receive calls
- 16:52Speaker 2: from people on the approved contact list. Calling other Tin
- 16:56Speaker 2: Cans and 911 is always free with no subscription required.
- 17:01Speaker 2: And with the party line plan, kids can also call
- 17:04Speaker 2: pre-approved non-Tin Can members. So grandma, grandpa, mom, cell, whoever
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- 17:56Speaker 3: And then that guy that honked on the jet ski
- 17:59Speaker 3: is Nathan on the lamb.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Nathan. Whoa.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Yeah. But did he get caught by the way? Because
- 18:10Speaker 3: Captain Sandy's in touch with him saying he's getting sober.
- 18:13Speaker 3: He's getting sober.
- 18:14Speaker 2: They must have, he must have turned himself in, you know,
- 18:17Speaker 2: because she's like doing an interview from the wheelhouse. Yeah. Well,
- 18:22Speaker 2: she's at work and she's like, hey, Norma just texted me.
- 18:27Speaker 2: And then while I was texting with Norma, Nathan texted me.
- 18:29Speaker 2: And so I turned it into a three-way text. So Norma,
- 18:33Speaker 2: Nathan and I are talking and Norma's got him in
- 18:36Speaker 2: a rehab that's real good.
- 18:37Speaker 3: All right.
- 18:39Speaker 2: She got him a good rehab. And she also turned
- 18:42Speaker 2: him into the law in two different countries. So she's
- 18:45Speaker 2: going to help him renew his passport and get a
- 18:49Speaker 2: good lawyer. I don't think so. Defense attorney.
- 18:51Speaker 3: All right.
- 18:53Speaker 2: We won't be seeing him ever again.
- 18:54Speaker 1: Okay.
- 18:55Speaker 3: Well, when we saw that wide shot of all the
- 18:57Speaker 3: jet skis in that inlet, I was like, which one
- 19:01Speaker 3: is Nathan? Like, undercover. And then all of a sudden
- 19:04Speaker 3: he's like, I totally forgot they're filming below deck in Thailand. Right.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Why did I choose Thailand? That was so stupid. Captain
- 19:13Speaker 2: Carrie loves it here. It's a magical place. You never
- 19:18Speaker 2: know what's going to happen.
- 19:21Speaker 3: By the way, did Fraser say that he and Moe,
- 19:23Speaker 3: because they grabbed their rooms first because they were there first.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Did he say that they're the only one with an
- 19:28Speaker 3: en suite? They're the only room with their own bathrooms?
- 19:32Speaker 2: With an en suite? Yeah, I didn't understand that. I've
- 19:35Speaker 2: never seen that. So that's tough because usually they have
- 19:37Speaker 2: their own bathroom and now they have to leave their
- 19:40Speaker 2: cabin and go share one down the hall?
- 19:42Speaker 3: That's what it sounds like. Woof.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Yeah. Woof. You know what I mean?
- 19:50Speaker 4: Saying oh i know what you're saying no that's bad
- 19:54Speaker 4: this is also like an old boat who did this
- 19:57Speaker 4: i don't know and crew night out is going to
- 20:00Speaker 4: take forever to get ready they're gonna they're not going
- 20:02Speaker 4: to get out to crew night out until.
- 20:04Speaker 3: 4 a.m you're right yeah Unless crew night outs, they
- 20:09Speaker 3: can use the guest rooms. Maybe they're going to be
- 20:14Speaker 3: using those rooms more.
- 20:16Speaker 2: Oh, good point. Yeah, excellent point.
- 20:20Speaker 3: Phuket.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Every time I hear Phuket, I think of, you know,
- 20:26Speaker 2: ready on the way.
- 20:26Speaker 3: Like a packet. Like a packet. What, Amy? What?
- 20:30Speaker 2: Sonia Morgan, international luxury lifestyle. I've been to Phuket. She
- 20:37Speaker 2: always drops Paquette?
- 20:38Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were going to say fuck it. Yeah.
- 20:41Speaker 2: Oh, no.
- 20:42Speaker 3: That's always how I read it because I'm in second grade.
- 20:49Speaker 3: If I ever said the F word, the F, if
- 20:53Speaker 3: I ever said fuck growing up, I'd say, but I
- 20:57Speaker 3: was saying it with a PH. It's a real fun way.
- 21:00Speaker 3: I still got in trouble.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Oh, man.
- 21:04Speaker 2: It's funny when Maddie swears. Like I let her, you know,
- 21:08Speaker 2: when she does it and it's the time and the place,
- 21:11Speaker 2: you know, I'm like, all right. That's not the time
- 21:14Speaker 2: and place. That's not the time and place. This is,
- 21:17Speaker 2: that's okay. But I have to make sure that she's
- 21:20Speaker 2: using it properly and she doesn't abuse her privileges, you know?
- 21:23Speaker 2: Because I feel like when you come down on it
- 21:24Speaker 2: like too hard, like don't ever say that word again.
- 21:27Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:28Speaker 2: You know, it's like, what's the, it's like, where's the lesson,
- 21:32Speaker 2: you know?
- 21:32Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 21:33Speaker 2: So I usually say things like, Okay, that was appropriate.
- 21:39Speaker 2: That's the correct way to use it. That is the
- 21:42Speaker 2: correct context. You nailed it. However, let's... These are weapons.
- 21:47Speaker 2: These words. Let's try to use other words. And also
- 21:53Speaker 2: don't do this at school or around any of your
- 21:55Speaker 2: friends because, you know, let's just keep it here. All right?
- 22:00Speaker 2: But like, or just with music, sometimes I don't really
- 22:03Speaker 2: care if there's a swear word in it and she's
- 22:05Speaker 2: just singing along, you know?
- 22:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:06Speaker 2: Like, we love the song, where the hell is my husband?
- 22:11Speaker 2: And so when she sings it, it's really funny. She's like, baby,
- 22:15Speaker 2: where the hell is my husband? Anywho, but that's fun. Anyway,
- 22:26Speaker 2: let's get back over onto the Oseul. That's the name
- 22:30Speaker 2: of the ship, I think.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Yeah, and just a reminder, a safety lesson's coming up
- 22:34Speaker 3: in the OC recap, so stay tuned. Oh, God. Tink, tink, tink, tink.
- 22:39Speaker 2: I've got an announcement to make.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Speaking of tink, tink and an announcement, there is a
- 22:47Speaker 3: cabaret show in this episode and no mention of Lou. Oh,
- 22:50Speaker 3: I know. Well, we didn't get to the cabaret yet.
- 22:53Speaker 3: So maybe she is going to zip line in.
- 22:58Speaker 2: She probably will. Darling, I have a gig in Phuket.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Below Deck is calling.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Hello?
- 23:05Speaker 2: Who's on the line? Below Deck? Hello? But we did
- 23:09Speaker 2: get a Bravo Liberty sighting. Taylor Ann Green from Southern Charm, formerly.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Nice little crossover here. She's boarded the Azul V with
- 23:24Speaker 2: some of the primaries. Gaston. She's part of this company.
- 23:29Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 23:29Speaker 2: Her Gaston, her boyfriend. She's part of this company, which
- 23:32Speaker 2: is like a resort.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Kenny Flowers.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Resort wear company.
- 23:38Speaker 3: Yeah. This entire trip is a write-off for them because they.
- 23:44Speaker 1: But.
- 23:44Speaker 3: Did you notice at the top, and I didn't write
- 23:46Speaker 3: down the company, there was another, like, boat life clothing
- 23:51Speaker 3: athleisure wear that had a bunch of bags in the
- 23:54Speaker 3: main room that Fraser said, oh, can't go anywhere without
- 23:58Speaker 3: our bop, bop, bop sponsor. And then on the same episode... Oh, God.
- 24:05Speaker 3: We have the test.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:07Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:08Speaker 3: Anyway, then they all came to dinner in matching outfits
- 24:11Speaker 3: from the Kenny Flowers line. And then the toast. So,
- 24:15Speaker 3: I guess they all worked together, too. Because they were like,
- 24:18Speaker 3: we work together and we're family. So, this must have
- 24:20Speaker 3: been a huge, this was just a write-off.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 24:22Speaker 2: It's one big happy family of Kenny Flowers and this business.
- 24:27Speaker 2: And I think it's so smart. I mean, what a
- 24:29Speaker 2: great connection Taylor made with Bravo to get them on
- 24:33Speaker 2: this yacht, you know, and showcase their business. resort wear
- 24:39Speaker 2: i think it's absolutely brilliant i'm just a little concerned
- 24:42Speaker 2: now i didn't see the product placement in the beginning
- 24:45Speaker 2: so i just if i were them i would have
- 24:47Speaker 2: been like really you couldn't wait till like next episode
- 24:50Speaker 2: to plug this other line of clothes like i i
- 24:54Speaker 2: don't know i would have just been a little bit
- 24:56Speaker 2: upset about the conflict of interest but whatever.
- 24:58Speaker 3: What are you gonna do if you blinked you missed
- 25:00Speaker 3: it and if you blinked you missed taylor ann green.
- 25:03Speaker 2: As well yes.
- 25:05Speaker 3: To the point that I texted you to say, is
- 25:08Speaker 3: there another episode of Below Deck this week? Because, like,
- 25:13Speaker 3: she was barely in it and they barely mentioned her.
- 25:15Speaker 3: We didn't even get the title. I didn't see it.
- 25:18Speaker 2: We didn't get her title. But also there's next week,
- 25:21Speaker 2: you know.
- 25:21Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe we get more.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Charter's not over. Yeah.
- 25:25Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 25:28Speaker 2: All right. So anyway, Mo, the chef, I love him.
- 25:32Speaker 2: I'm so excited about him. He seems incredibly talented, super
- 25:35Speaker 2: down to earth. He doesn't want to be called chef,
- 25:38Speaker 2: which is so interesting. We haven't really heard anyone say that.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:42Speaker 2: And he has worked so hard, Michelin star restaurants, like
- 25:48Speaker 2: here he is, and he's killing it already.
- 25:51Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we'll see. But so far, so good.
- 25:54Speaker 2: He had no complaints. What do you, what do, Are we... Wow,
- 25:57Speaker 2: that's kind of pessimistic.
- 25:57Speaker 3: We're literally in the first episode.
- 25:59Speaker 2: That's a pessimistic attitude. He's killing it. Can we celebrate
- 26:04Speaker 2: when there's a celebration to be had?
- 26:06Speaker 3: I'm celebrating. I'm just saying.
- 26:08Speaker 2: You said, well, we'll see. We'll see.
- 26:13Speaker 3: We'll see. We're going to see about Rainbow's mental health.
- 26:17Speaker 3: We're going to see about Mo as a chef. We're
- 26:19Speaker 3: going to see about Fraser and Matt Rogers. We're seeing it.
- 26:23Speaker 2: Um.
- 26:26Speaker 2: Okay, so, Jesenia seems awesome. Deck crew, down to clown,
- 26:32Speaker 2: hard worker. She's a pirate. Very excited. Yeah, I love her.
- 26:35Speaker 3: I love her vibe.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Yes, me too.
- 26:37Speaker 3: It's been a while. So far, we'll see. We'll see.
- 26:40Speaker 2: You know, the jury is out. We'll see. And then
- 26:43Speaker 2: Matthew Fitzpatrick Buck, he has two years of bosun experience,
- 26:52Speaker 2: and he's He seems to know what he's doing. And
- 26:55Speaker 2: so it looks like there's going to be a little
- 26:56Speaker 2: bit of friction between him and Alex, who is the bosun,
- 27:00Speaker 2: who maybe doesn't know as much as Matthew does. So
- 27:04Speaker 2: I'm interested in this.
- 27:05Speaker 3: Matthew's confusing because he looks so different in his interview
- 27:09Speaker 3: look than he does on the boat.
- 27:10Speaker 2: He looks so hot on the boat.
- 27:11Speaker 3: That's weird.
- 27:14Speaker 2: I felt the same way. When I saw him sweating
- 27:17Speaker 2: in the, like, I know that area I should know
- 27:20Speaker 2: in the Oh, damn. What's that area called in the
- 27:23Speaker 2: boat where they keep everything?
- 27:24Speaker 3: Undercarriage area in the garage?
- 27:26Speaker 2: Well, yes.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:28Speaker 2: The garage. I think it's called the garage. Thank you.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Is it? I don't know.
- 27:33Speaker 2: I think it is.
- 27:34Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
- 27:35Speaker 2: So anyway, when he was sweating and he's like, oh,
- 27:37Speaker 2: I don't know. We got to do this and we
- 27:39Speaker 2: got to do that first. I was like, who is this? Yes.
- 27:43Speaker 2: And then we got over to the confessional and then
- 27:46Speaker 2: I was like, wait, huh? Are you the guy? Isn't
- 27:49Speaker 2: that strange?
- 27:50Speaker 1: I know.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Yeah. Believe me, I was like... My note for Matthew,
- 27:56Speaker 3: so I can remember who we're talking about, is hot
- 27:59Speaker 3: on the boat. Not in confess.
- 28:03Speaker 2: Not in confess. Well, this looks like a really good season.
- 28:09Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I just... I'm concerned about Rainbow,
- 28:13Speaker 2: but I'm loving it. I also... I'm very interested in
- 28:19Speaker 2: someone who really does commit to talking out loud to
- 28:23Speaker 2: themselves and these pep talks that she does because she
- 28:25Speaker 2: did it last season and she's already doing it now.
- 28:28Speaker 2: And I do believe that this is just how she is.
- 28:32Speaker 2: She gives herself pep talks. She has to, you know,
- 28:35Speaker 2: do the mantras. And I'm just not familiar with that,
- 28:43Speaker 2: seeing anyone really do that.
- 28:45Speaker 3: They always do it on Below Deck when they're by themselves. See,
- 28:50Speaker 3: I think, and I thought you told me this, that
- 28:52Speaker 3: you think that the producers tell them to talk to themselves.
- 28:57Speaker 3: Maybe you should talk to yourself.
- 29:02Speaker 2: I just love the fact that I'm like, I've never
- 29:05Speaker 2: seen anyone on TV do a mantra to themselves in
- 29:09Speaker 2: a mirror all the time. And you're like, they always
- 29:13Speaker 2: do it.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Amy remember your book everybody talks to themselves on below
- 29:18Speaker 3: deck i read it three times.
- 29:21Speaker 2: No i i agree first of all fraser is really.
- 29:24Speaker 3: Good at this now i'm talking to myself on the
- 29:27Speaker 3: show why is she saying this why is amy doing
- 29:31Speaker 3: this no she wrote a book about talking to yourself.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Did i write a book about talking to myself huh
- 29:39Speaker 2: fraser does a really good job of it because he's
- 29:42Speaker 2: kind of like funny and he is sort of presenting
- 29:46Speaker 2: like as a narrator in real time walking around the boat.
- 29:49Speaker 2: So he's really great at that. I'm talking about these
- 29:54Speaker 2: emotional breakdown moments where you're coaching yourself Like you're not
- 30:00Speaker 2: necessarily narrating what's going on. Like, oh, I guess I'll
- 30:02Speaker 2: set the table now because someone's being a bitch. It's
- 30:05Speaker 2: more like, I'm okay. You can do this.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:08Speaker 2: I got this. I'm okay. You're okay. You know, like
- 30:11Speaker 2: that type of thing. And it's, that's all rainbow to herself.
- 30:15Speaker 2: That's a very unique characteristic that I haven't quite seen
- 30:18Speaker 2: other than her.
- 30:20Speaker 3: So maybe in her case, it's like the producers are like,
- 30:23Speaker 3: you know what? No notes. You are working it out
- 30:27Speaker 3: loud because of some tools that you've learned, some cognitive tools,
- 30:32Speaker 3: and just have at it. We will stay back here.
- 30:35Speaker 3: Maybe I should.
- 30:36Speaker 2: I guess it's just making me think like maybe I
- 30:37Speaker 2: should start doing that. Maybe that will work.
- 30:40Speaker 3: Like out loud.
- 30:41Speaker 2: I'm not an out loud person where I'm like looking
- 30:45Speaker 2: in the mirror and I'm like, okay, it's time to
- 30:48Speaker 2: take on the day. You are a fierce mother who
- 30:53Speaker 2: works hard. and a wife, and a daughter, and a friend,
- 31:00Speaker 2: and you've got this girl. Like, I don't know, maybe
- 31:03Speaker 2: I should do this. I don't know.
- 31:05Speaker 3: Well, it works great for rainbow. It works great. Do
- 31:08Speaker 3: you do it? I don't think I do it. I mean,
- 31:11Speaker 3: I talk to myself all the time.
- 31:13Speaker 2: But not like that. That's what I'm trying to say.
- 31:15Speaker 2: There's a difference between talking to yourself like, Walking around
- 31:19Speaker 2: the boat, walking around the house, in the car, da, da, da, da.
- 31:22Speaker 2: You know, I'm talking pep talk.
- 31:23Speaker 3: Like Stuart Smalley.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Yes. Mantras.
- 31:27Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, I definitely don't. And I'm not saying
- 31:33Speaker 3: it's a bad thing and I could see.
- 31:35Speaker 2: No.
- 31:35Speaker 3: But it would have to be something that like, and
- 31:38Speaker 3: I'm sure it is great. Just like handwriting something out
- 31:42Speaker 3: is way better than typing it out.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Right.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Maybe I, I guess that's what I'm saying. Maybe I
- 31:46Speaker 2: should start talking out loud. Maybe it will regulate me more.
- 31:49Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm going to start now. Okay, it's
- 31:52Speaker 2: time to move on to Orange County.
- 31:54Speaker 3: You got this. You know what it's reminding me of?
- 31:57Speaker 3: On Traders, Morgan, that is like her deal, like her
- 32:01Speaker 3: Instagram account is a lot of this inner monologue that
- 32:04Speaker 3: she's voicing over, and it is hilarious. Oh, really? Yeah.
- 32:08Speaker 2: Okay, I've not seen that.
- 32:10Speaker 3: A lot of talking to herself, yes.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Yes. That being said, let's move on to....
- 32:19Speaker 3: Got my apple just this is how i think now
- 32:21Speaker 3: let's move on right now you did not we've got
- 32:25Speaker 3: to go let's do oc.
- 32:28Speaker 2: How long have you had that apple in there.
- 32:30Speaker 3: It's been a minute because this is how i like
- 32:32Speaker 3: to think now i like to toss an apple in
- 32:34Speaker 3: the air.
- 32:35Speaker 2: Joe you fucking traitor you're the worst at the apple
- 32:39Speaker 2: game um we are going to be watching that this
- 32:43Speaker 2: weekend girl i watched you already watched it Don't tell me.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Don't even look at me. Don't look at me. Don't
- 32:52Speaker 2: tell me. Catch.
- 32:53Speaker 3: Think. Think fast. Open your mouth.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Oh, no.
- 32:55Speaker 3: I'm murdered. I'm just getting my pastry started.
- 33:01Speaker 2: We got to watch Great British Baking Show. Don't tell me.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Don't look at me. Did you already watch it?
- 33:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched it. I'm not looking at you.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Okay, good.
- 33:10Speaker 3: I would eat this apple, but I think it's so
- 33:12Speaker 3: gross to hear crunching on a microphone, so I'm not
- 33:14Speaker 3: going to do it. I'm not going to do it.
- 33:15Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that would not be good.
- 33:15Speaker 3: But I eat apples all the time. I eat them
- 33:17Speaker 3: all day and night.
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- 40:09Speaker 2: got to talk about Orange County. Yes. Oof. I don't
- 40:15Speaker 2: know what the darlings are saying over on Patreon. I
- 40:19Speaker 2: haven't checked in with them yet on this. I don't
- 40:21Speaker 2: know what the internet is saying. All I know is
- 40:24Speaker 2: that was one hell of an episode. And holy shit.
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- 40:31Speaker 2: these Orange County ladies and the history they have.
- 40:34Speaker 3: For 15 years.
- 40:35Speaker 2: 20.
- 40:35Speaker 3: Oh my God.
- 40:37Speaker 2: We've been friends for 15 years. 20.
- 40:40Speaker 3: It's... It's schematics.
- 40:45Speaker 2: It's f * * * ing disgusting. It's not. It's semantics.
- 40:49Speaker 2: That's how I say it. I always will say it
- 40:51Speaker 2: like that. Forget it, okay? Get over it.
- 40:53Speaker 3: It means drawing, Heather.
- 40:57Speaker 2: It means, yeah. Oh, my God. Heather was so funny
- 41:03Speaker 2: in that one moment. She was so raw, and she's like, well,
- 41:06Speaker 2: I mean— I'm fake. So that's what I'm really good at.
- 41:09Speaker 2: So whatever works for me. Yeah.
- 41:11Speaker 3: She's like, I'm fake as fuck. I was like, okay,
- 41:14Speaker 3: Heather has arrived.
- 41:15Speaker 2: I fucking loved that lady right there. That's what I
- 41:20Speaker 2: want more of.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Yes.
- 41:22Speaker 2: And it makes it, does it make it worth it
- 41:25Speaker 2: to wait for those long periods of time to get
- 41:28Speaker 2: those chunks of gold? Yes, it is. But I just
- 41:31Speaker 2: wish you would lean a little bit more into it.
- 41:33Speaker 2: That's all. She's wound so tight and I get it.
- 41:36Speaker 2: But when she can loosen up that champagne cork, she
- 41:40Speaker 2: can really get to a place that is so endearing
- 41:46Speaker 2: and so likable.
- 41:48Speaker 3: You know what, though? This might be my favorite season
- 41:51Speaker 3: of Heather. And I know that people are saying it's
- 41:53Speaker 3: a boring season, but.
- 41:55Speaker 2: I like it. I'm on board now.
- 41:57Speaker 3: I'm totally on board.
- 41:58Speaker 2: The beginning was tough, but now we are. Man, are
- 42:01Speaker 2: we cooking. I can't believe how deep we got.
- 42:05Speaker 3: Yeah. It's my favorite season of Heather because people aren't
- 42:08Speaker 3: all ganging up on Heather. She's had to play defense
- 42:11Speaker 3: the last couple seasons that she's been on. And you
- 42:13Speaker 3: know what?
- 42:13Speaker 2: They tried in the beginning of the season, too. They tried.
- 42:16Speaker 2: And they tried, they tried, and it went to the wayside.
- 42:19Speaker 3: So.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 42:20Speaker 3: So now Heather's just kind of able to be Heather
- 42:23Speaker 3: and it's great. Yeah.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Right. I, um, this is some real ass stuff. Like
- 42:29Speaker 2: this is very real. This is very sad. It doesn't
- 42:32Speaker 2: mean that Tamara has been right all these years. It
- 42:34Speaker 2: just means that her pain is real and it sucks.
- 42:38Speaker 2: And it's gotta be absolutely awful to not have your
- 42:41Speaker 2: daughter talking to you. Not since that sprinter van in Ireland, uh,
- 42:46Speaker 2: have we seen Tamara cry that hard? And that was
- 42:50Speaker 2: also over Sydney. Yeah. Because Kelly Dodd brought it up
- 42:53Speaker 2: in that Sprinter van. Obviously, that's her trigger point. But,
- 42:58Speaker 2: you know, that was years ago. It was devastating then,
- 43:02Speaker 2: and it's still devastating to see her cry that hard.
- 43:04Speaker 2: I mean, I was so upset for her. I was crying.
- 43:09Speaker 2: I was crying. I just, like, I can't even imagine
- 43:12Speaker 2: what that must be like. And it was also really
- 43:13Speaker 2: touching to, that the women were really comforting her because
- 43:17Speaker 2: she had a full on meltdown. That was a meltdown.
- 43:21Speaker 2: That was a guttural cry.
- 43:23Speaker 3: Primal.
- 43:24Speaker 2: Primal.
- 43:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:26Speaker 2: And that's why I just found it so moving because
- 43:30Speaker 2: we don't really see that side of Tamara. She's tough
- 43:33Speaker 2: as nails. She doesn't show us that, but this is
- 43:36Speaker 2: like deep, deep stuff.
- 43:37Speaker 3: It just felt like all of a sudden with no, like,
- 43:42Speaker 3: I was like, why are we all digging back years now?
- 43:45Speaker 2: Vicky and Tamara are at an impasse where they both
- 43:50Speaker 2: think that what the other one has done to them
- 43:54Speaker 2: is cause for a war between which thing hurt the
- 43:58Speaker 2: most to the other person. I think Vicky has kept
- 44:01Speaker 2: her at an arm's length and Tamara is just confused
- 44:04Speaker 2: about like, why are you doing this? Why can't we just,
- 44:07Speaker 2: you know, come back together? And Vicky doesn't want to
- 44:09Speaker 2: have anything to do with her. And that's been very
- 44:11Speaker 2: clear now. It's very clear. because she thinks she's toxic
- 44:15Speaker 2: and she doesn't want to have anything to do with her.
- 44:19Speaker 3: But Tamara and Vicki have been really close. They're together.
- 44:26Speaker 3: And then Vicki gets pissed at Tamara because of the
- 44:29Speaker 3: brain scans at the doctor's office that Tamara went and
- 44:32Speaker 3: told everybody that vicky had concerning plaque okay yeah yeah
- 44:37Speaker 3: and i also am now thinking if tamra's aware of
- 44:41Speaker 3: it or not it does feel like this is her
- 44:43Speaker 3: play to get closer to shannon as emily is now
- 44:46Speaker 3: producing the show and being like um what shannon how
- 44:51Speaker 3: do you feel about the things that vicky says about
- 44:53Speaker 3: you on my gosh different show like and and then
- 44:57Speaker 3: in the van you're saying that So I wonder if
- 44:59Speaker 3: Tamara's also like, I'm still pissed deep down about Vicki
- 45:03Speaker 3: and this is why. And so, because the thing that
- 45:07Speaker 3: in the Sprinter van and this, Shannon is the one
- 45:10Speaker 3: that soothes Tamara in those situations. And I, not that
- 45:14Speaker 3: I don't even think Tamara means to do it, but
- 45:16Speaker 3: I do think she's so desperate to be friends again
- 45:19Speaker 3: with Shannon in a very close way that she's like
- 45:22Speaker 3: willing to like cause friction and, call Vicky out so
- 45:27Speaker 3: that she and Shannon can bond about how, like, Vicky's
- 45:31Speaker 3: betraying them.
- 45:32Speaker 2: I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't be surprised about that.
- 45:35Speaker 2: It's very clear to me now that, like, Shannon and
- 45:39Speaker 2: Vicky are really, really close. But it was weird that
- 45:42Speaker 2: Vicky was like, I mean, we're not strangers, like, about,
- 45:45Speaker 2: you know, answering that question.
- 45:46Speaker 3: That was wild.
- 45:47Speaker 2: It was weird. I mean, that was so strange.
- 45:52Speaker 3: And then on the after show episode, They were talking
- 45:55Speaker 3: about how Vicky goes on Jeff Lewis and talks shit
- 45:58Speaker 3: about Shannon's finances in a very public way. And then
- 46:04Speaker 3: they're talking about that. And Shannon on the after show
- 46:06Speaker 3: is like, I don't like that at all. And so
- 46:09Speaker 3: there's a big, there's an overwhelming, and Shannon on the
- 46:12Speaker 3: after show says, I'm paraphrasing, but basically, yeah, I'm a
- 46:17Speaker 3: much better friend of Vicky than she is to me.
- 46:20Speaker 3: And that's just the way it is.
- 46:22Speaker 2: I believe that 100%. And, and the fact that Vicki
- 46:28Speaker 2: said that about Tamara on her podcast is awful. Like
- 46:32Speaker 2: the Brooks scandal aside that I do not think that
- 46:37Speaker 2: they're equal. I mean, I really am team Tamara on this.
- 46:40Speaker 2: Like I think to have brought up her daughter on
- 46:44Speaker 2: her podcast all those years ago, and then also to
- 46:47Speaker 2: double down, which Vicki doesn't know what that means. And
- 46:51Speaker 2: that's concerning. Um, But to then kind of sort of apologize,
- 46:56Speaker 2: I guess, again to Tamara, but then go back and
- 47:01Speaker 2: she says it again in the van. And then Emily
- 47:05Speaker 2: goes and tells Tamara, well, you know, she had to
- 47:10Speaker 2: because that is how Vicki still feels. And Tamara's like, well,
- 47:14Speaker 2: there goes that, you know, because that is how Vicki feels.
- 47:18Speaker 2: She's not going to stop bringing it up on camera again.
- 47:21Speaker 2: She said that she was quoting Sydney. I know. Stop
- 47:25Speaker 2: saying that, though.
- 47:26Speaker 3: It's so hurtful. Yeah, I agree.
- 47:31Speaker 2: Get my daughter's name out of your mouth and quoting her.
- 47:34Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what she said. It's not for you
- 47:37Speaker 2: to continue to bring up. It's like, have you ever
- 47:40Speaker 2: been friends? It is the lowest that you can go
- 47:43Speaker 2: when Tamara said that. It really is. And despite what
- 47:46Speaker 2: Tamara's mistakes have been, Or the choices she's made. It's
- 47:53Speaker 2: obviously very painful. And if you have any care at all,
- 47:56Speaker 2: I just don't think it's worth bringing up like that.
- 47:59Speaker 2: Unless you just really don't like somebody. And it seems
- 48:01Speaker 2: like Vicky really doesn't like Tamara. That's kind of how
- 48:04Speaker 2: it feels.
- 48:05Speaker 3: I think she just doesn't trust her. Because I don't
- 48:07Speaker 3: think Vicky has the patience and the endurance to do
- 48:10Speaker 3: a Tamara drag out fight. Or to have her.
- 48:14Speaker 2: She doesn't. She's like, I hope we solved something here.
- 48:17Speaker 2: I don't even know if we did. I hope we did.
- 48:19Speaker 2: I mean, she's tired. And I don't blame... Because it's
- 48:21Speaker 2: the same thing over and over again. But like, that's
- 48:23Speaker 2: why I found this episode so powerful. Because Vicki and Tamara,
- 48:30Speaker 2: from the, you know, maybe not from the very, very beginning,
- 48:32Speaker 2: but Tamara's been there for a long, long time. And
- 48:35Speaker 2: they have been through some shit together. So to see
- 48:39Speaker 2: where they stand now, where... they just have pain in
- 48:43Speaker 2: between them and just the deep cuts that they both made.
- 48:47Speaker 2: It's such a sacrifice in their lives and with each
- 48:50Speaker 2: other that they do this stuff on this show because
- 48:56Speaker 2: they basically bleed out for entertainment and they just kind
- 48:59Speaker 2: of destroy each other. And it's just sad.
- 49:02Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sad, but it's just going to be what
- 49:04Speaker 3: it is. I think by next week, Vicki will forget
- 49:06Speaker 3: half of this conversation and, Tamara will be over it.
- 49:10Speaker 3: And then, and if the show is still on, if
- 49:13Speaker 3: they're still on the show in two years, it'll come
- 49:18Speaker 3: back up. And as though none of this has happened.
- 49:21Speaker 3: It'll be fresh as a daisy.
- 49:23Speaker 2: Vicki really can't apologize for what she said about Sydney,
- 49:27Speaker 2: because she will continue to say it again and again. She,
- 49:29Speaker 2: and I understand what she's saying, because Sydney said it.
- 49:32Speaker 2: And if that's the facts, that's the facts. But it
- 49:34Speaker 2: doesn't matter. She's not apologizing for continuing to bring it up.
- 49:37Speaker 3: Oh, what am I saying? It's only going to get
- 49:39Speaker 3: worse because Tamara's telling everybody that Brianne and Vicki are
- 49:44Speaker 3: having problems. So as soon as that is discussed, that
- 49:49Speaker 3: Tamara brought that up, Vicki's going to lose her damn mind.
- 49:53Speaker 2: Listen, I don't even fault Tamara for that. I actually don't.
- 49:57Speaker 2: I mean, could she have taken the high road? Absolutely.
- 50:01Speaker 2: Would she have been the better person? Sure. But not
- 50:03Speaker 2: when Vicki's in the sprinter van saying it again. And
- 50:06Speaker 2: it's like you continue to shame people. And she shamed Carmela.
- 50:10Speaker 2: You know, that's a running theme here. She's just like
- 50:12Speaker 2: mom shaming people.
- 50:13Speaker 3: And it's. Yeah.
- 50:14Speaker 2: And trust me, I'm like, Tamara, if Sydney had a
- 50:17Speaker 2: problem with you being on the show and didn't want
- 50:19Speaker 2: you to be on the show. Yeah, you should have
- 50:21Speaker 2: gotten off the show if that really was what it was.
- 50:24Speaker 2: Was it parental alienation that.
- 50:27Speaker 3: She said that when she was she's like, then I
- 50:29Speaker 3: didn't do the show. And then we still like it
- 50:31Speaker 3: didn't matter. But we think that that's because she got fired,
- 50:35Speaker 3: not because she was doing that for Sidney. See, I, yeah.
- 50:38Speaker 2: And, you know, that's where, like, I'll have my own judgment.
- 50:41Speaker 2: But if she's my friend, I'm not going to bring
- 50:43Speaker 2: it up over and over again on this show. I
- 50:45Speaker 2: don't know. I think that.
- 50:46Speaker 3: They all have these very real relationships off screen in
- 50:50Speaker 3: the moments where it matters. And I'm thinking of, like, Shannon's.
- 50:55Speaker 3: DUI and she went to Vicky's and.
- 51:00Speaker 2: Remember Tamara was pest about that and kept exposing what's
- 51:05Speaker 2: going on over there because Tamara's been nasty.
- 51:07Speaker 3: Well I'm just thinking that I think that they all
- 51:10Speaker 3: have these guard down moments when the cameras aren't there
- 51:14Speaker 3: and they don't even realize that they're stockpiling ammo from
- 51:17Speaker 3: these moments and then the cameras come up and if
- 51:22Speaker 3: one of them just gets a whiff that they've exposed
- 51:25Speaker 3: one of their secrets, they go nuclear. And then it's
- 51:30Speaker 3: like war breaks out. Because like, well, I thought, you know,
- 51:34Speaker 3: you said this, and you weren't going to say that.
- 51:36Speaker 3: And then you did this. And it's just like, everything
- 51:39Speaker 3: comes out. Yeah.
- 51:41Speaker 2: And I think Vicki is to the point in her life,
- 51:43Speaker 2: coming back to this is such a chore. It has
- 51:47Speaker 2: been demonstrated episode after episode at this point. And that's
- 51:52Speaker 2: what is making this such an interesting watch, because she
- 51:57Speaker 2: really doesn't deserve to be in this situation anymore. She
- 52:00Speaker 2: shouldn't be there in the sense that, like, it's not
- 52:03Speaker 2: helping her. It's not empowering her life. It doesn't seem
- 52:07Speaker 2: to be something that is bringing her joy.
- 52:10Speaker 3: I am starting to see a pattern, unfortunately, where we
- 52:14Speaker 3: are bringing the wives back. And I said it before,
- 52:17Speaker 3: like it's a little Pet Sematary-ish. We all want it.
- 52:20Speaker 3: And then when we get it, nobody's happy. And it's
- 52:23Speaker 3: happening right now with Carol in New York. Like the
- 52:27Speaker 3: internet is going for Carol.
- 52:29Speaker 2: That's stupid. Okay.
- 52:31Speaker 3: And she's handling it the opposite of how Vicky's handling it,
- 52:34Speaker 3: where she's.
- 52:34Speaker 2: All about joining in. The New York Post is coming
- 52:36Speaker 2: for Carol, actually, because she's a parking menace. But she
- 52:38Speaker 2: paid for tickets. There's a whole, like, I don't know
- 52:41Speaker 2: if you guys saw this, but the cover of the
- 52:43Speaker 2: New York Post yesterday was Carol. And it says, the
- 52:46Speaker 2: New York City parking menace or something like that. And
- 52:50Speaker 2: Andy Cohen did a video and was like, Carol Radzowel,
- 52:53Speaker 2: look at you. And it had the $ 8, 000 of parking
- 52:56Speaker 2: tickets that she's racked up or whatever. And it's a
- 52:59Speaker 2: picture of her and it's so funny. But anyway, did
- 53:02Speaker 2: you say that she's paid the tickets?
- 53:04Speaker 3: She paid them before that. And I know everybody's going
- 53:07Speaker 3: to be like, you, you know, you love Carol. I
- 53:10Speaker 3: do love Carol. But I'm saying like, it doesn't matter
- 53:13Speaker 3: if you come back with a great attitude or a
- 53:16Speaker 3: shitty attitude like Vicky. It just, and we've also seen
- 53:21Speaker 3: like Taylor come back. We've seen other people come back
- 53:23Speaker 3: and it just isn't working for some reason. To have
- 53:28Speaker 3: these legacy cast members come back in. So maybe the
- 53:32Speaker 3: legacy show on E! where it's all the same or,
- 53:35Speaker 3: you know, Ultimate Girls Trip style. Yeah. Maybe that works.
- 53:39Speaker 2: Maybe that does work. This is experimental for her coming
- 53:42Speaker 2: back at this point and being inserted into this madness.
- 53:47Speaker 2: And it's kind of like we're figuring out, does this work?
- 53:49Speaker 2: Does this not work? When she stomps her leg on
- 53:51Speaker 2: the ground and that's the leg with the bandage on it.
- 53:54Speaker 2: And she was like, I don't want to be around her.
- 53:57Speaker 2: It was like, oh, mom's really mad. You know? Really mad.
- 54:04Speaker 3: It's so true. Like, not that leg.
- 54:06Speaker 2: Not that right.
- 54:06Speaker 3: And she was also dressed like a visiting first lady.
- 54:10Speaker 3: I did not understand the look.
- 54:12Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it. Everything about it. But
- 54:14Speaker 2: it was like, that's the thing. It was so real.
- 54:16Speaker 2: I mean, it's like when you get, as you get older,
- 54:18Speaker 2: and I attest to this, it's like you just, you're tired.
- 54:21Speaker 2: You don't have time for that shit. I have my boundaries.
- 54:25Speaker 2: I don't want to be around this person. This is
- 54:27Speaker 2: what I think about this person. I said what I said.
- 54:29Speaker 2: I'll say it again. Like, it's just she is kind
- 54:32Speaker 2: of done with a lot, you know?
- 54:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 54:34Speaker 2: And to your point— And it's.
- 54:36Speaker 3: Not even jet lag. I mean, they're all jet lagged
- 54:39Speaker 3: over there. But, like, Vicki's like— she' s constantly operating in jet
- 54:43Speaker 3: lag at this point.
- 54:44Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 54:45Speaker 3: Yeah. Now back to what was my point, my wonderful
- 54:48Speaker 3: point you were about to say. Yes.
- 54:51Speaker 2: Oh, yes. Well, I was going to say, to your
- 54:54Speaker 2: point— maybe it is after we see Vicky on this season,
- 54:58Speaker 2: maybe it is better to keep the OGs in a
- 55:01Speaker 2: different type of environment so that they don't have to
- 55:04Speaker 2: like go through all this.
- 55:06Speaker 3: I just can't think of one time it's worked. I mean,
- 55:10Speaker 3: unless you want to count Tamra coming back, but she
- 55:13Speaker 3: really wasn't gone. Like they seem to bring back like,
- 55:18Speaker 3: and guess who's back after all these years.
- 55:21Speaker 2: Then we have like Jen who's calling out Vicky, like,
- 55:24Speaker 2: you can't take accountability for anything. And she's yelling at her.
- 55:27Speaker 2: And I'm like, Vicky doesn't need to be there across
- 55:30Speaker 2: from Jen telling her to take accountability. Like, leave Vicky alone, okay?
- 55:34Speaker 2: She's done her tour of duty. She feels how she feels.
- 55:39Speaker 2: And leave her alone.
- 55:40Speaker 3: So do you think Vicky can just yell, or Vicky
- 55:42Speaker 3: can just, like, go low with all these gals and
- 55:45Speaker 3: we just treat her like grandma in the corner? Like,
- 55:47Speaker 3: she's kind of losing it. She didn't mean to say that.
- 55:50Speaker 2: That is sort of how I feel, but After this,
- 55:53Speaker 2: I think that maybe she shouldn't be in this situation
- 55:57Speaker 2: because I don't think that she deserves it either. Sometimes
- 56:00Speaker 2: you're done, you know? You don't need to be answering
- 56:03Speaker 2: questions from like Jen.
- 56:05Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't need to be saying shit either.
- 56:08Speaker 3: And if Carmela was there, it would be 10 times
- 56:10Speaker 3: worse because Vicky has said some crazy ass shit. By
- 56:13Speaker 3: the way, on the after show, Carmela, I guess Shannon's
- 56:17Speaker 3: house flooded and Carmela said, well, just use my rental.
- 56:20Speaker 3: That's $ 35, 000 a month. And she let Shannon stay there
- 56:24Speaker 3: for free.
- 56:25Speaker 2: Wow.
- 56:27Speaker 3: That's pretty fucking nice.
- 56:28Speaker 2: That is nice.
- 56:30Speaker 3: Yeah. Because Shannon has like the dogs and everything and
- 56:32Speaker 3: was worried that she wouldn't be able to find something.
- 56:34Speaker 3: And I'm thinking like.
- 56:35Speaker 2: Did this just happen like the other. Wait, when did
- 56:38Speaker 2: this happen?
- 56:39Speaker 3: In the after show.
- 56:40Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 56:41Speaker 3: I don't. Gosh, I have been thinking about those gals
- 56:44Speaker 3: out in the OC. I know.
- 56:45Speaker 2: There's a lot of fires.
- 56:46Speaker 3: Mm hmm. So like Carmel is pretty nice. And Vicki
- 56:50Speaker 3: has multiple places. Like I don't hear that Vicki offered
- 56:53Speaker 3: Shannon a place to be. And I don't know.
- 56:58Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point. I'm not saying that Vicki
- 57:01Speaker 2: should have a free pass. I'm not. She knows the
- 57:05Speaker 2: job of a housewife. You know, she's an equal opportunity
- 57:09Speaker 2: cast member just like anybody else. And she should be
- 57:12Speaker 2: able to say what she wants, and other cast members
- 57:14Speaker 2: should be able to say what they want to her,
- 57:16Speaker 2: and then they go. But I guess I just felt
- 57:20Speaker 2: so much pain last night in Tokyo, in that room,
- 57:25Speaker 2: and it was so sad, and it really weighed heavily
- 57:28Speaker 2: on me.
- 57:30Speaker 3: Look, I love Michael Jordan, but he should not go
- 57:33Speaker 3: play for the Chicago Bulls today. He couldn't. Sometimes you
- 57:38Speaker 3: retire when you retire, and that's how it should be.
- 57:41Speaker 2: Well, then if Bravo put her on here, you know,
- 57:44Speaker 2: then maybe they should tell the cast members just leave
- 57:48Speaker 2: her alone.
- 57:49Speaker 3: Got ahead of themselves at BravoCon, planning BravoCon, and then
- 57:53Speaker 3: we give Vicky the orange. And I think everybody thought
- 57:58Speaker 3: Vicky was game ready, and she's not.
- 58:01Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, not in that way. Right. She shouldn't
- 58:04Speaker 2: be having to, like, wrestle with these ladies. Jen, Jen.
- 58:10Speaker 2: or Emily, or even Gina, like, at this point. She's
- 58:14Speaker 2: earned her stripes, and it should just been a friend of.
- 58:17Speaker 3: Yeah. Although I don't think Vicki would have done a
- 58:19Speaker 3: friend of, even though she probably would have made more money. Yeah.
- 58:23Speaker 3: She's like, no, I'm a wife, I'm a wife.
- 58:25Speaker 2: I just don't know how you can come out of
- 58:27Speaker 2: The Real Housewives and have a genuine, like, friendship with
- 58:30Speaker 2: someone else on the show without just a tremendous amount
- 58:34Speaker 2: of baggage. You know, I don't think Vicki and Tamara
- 58:36Speaker 2: are ever going to have any kind of real friendship.
- 58:40Speaker 2: They're just not. There's too much damage.
- 58:42Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, maybe. But I think that they've actually really
- 58:46Speaker 3: been there for each other when the cameras are down.
- 58:49Speaker 3: I do think like Emily and Gina are legit friends.
- 58:52Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, we'll see what happens in the future.
- 58:56Speaker 3: But you can't have a show of Emily and Gina.
- 58:59Speaker 3: Like that's not a show.
- 59:01Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Shannon is in a tough position, you know,
- 59:05Speaker 2: in the middle of these ladies in a way. And
- 59:07Speaker 2: it's interesting to see Shannon be kind of like the
- 59:09Speaker 2: rocket of everybody because many, many seasons we've seen Shannon
- 59:13Speaker 2: just eyeing all over the place because of everything she's
- 59:16Speaker 2: been going through. So it's a good season for Shannon.
- 59:19Speaker 3: Oh my God, when they were in the van, punching
- 59:23Speaker 3: each other in their frontal lobes.
- 59:24Speaker 2: Oh Lord, that was great.
- 59:27Speaker 3: It was so It was like Tamra was Carole Kane
- 59:31Speaker 3: in Scrooge. Oh, yeah. Yes. Like when she's beating the
- 59:36Speaker 3: shit out of Bill Murray.
- 59:38Speaker 2: That's a good.
- 59:40Speaker 3: That was a ghost of Christmas present. Yeah. That's all
- 59:43Speaker 3: I could think of because they're like in this car.
- 59:45Speaker 3: I was like, what is happening? And then I'm worried
- 59:48Speaker 3: about the damage to their brains.
- 59:50Speaker 2: But safety.
- 59:51Speaker 3: Here it is now. Safety alert, everybody.
- 59:54Speaker 2: Okay. You finally made it.
- 59:56Speaker 3: Go-karts driving through the city, a city they don't know
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: at all, in traffic. I'm like, where are the helmets?
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: I could not. Because they had these little outfits on,
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: and some of them had hoods up. And I'm like,
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: are they under the hoods? No.
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: No. So they look cute when they get hit by
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: a car.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: That was awful. I couldn't believe it. I know. I
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: couldn't either. I was watching this like, Heather, especially, because
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: I feel like she had something around her hands. I'm like,
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: you can't grip these handlebars. And this is making me
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: so nervous.
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: And they're going like 30 miles an hour, like faster
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: than you would on a bike. Yeah. I just couldn't
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: believe it. I was like, so nervous. I knew nothing
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: was going to happen because we would have known. But
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: at the same time, I was like, if I'm a
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: producer on this show, I am not going to sleep
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: the night before because I'm out trying to find helmets
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: for them. Like I would never, ever let that happen.
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it.
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: That was nuts. The caviar bars were like, not what
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: I expected. I couldn't get over those balls. Oh, and
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: the balls, the bite and the balls were crazy.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, the balls were nuts. They're the first thing.
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: I saw in that shot. They were nuts. Those balls
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: were nuts. They were the nuts.
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: But yeah, they were not as cute as they are
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: in memes.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: No, my goodness. But Tokyo is definitely bringing it and
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: more to come. So, all right. Well, thanks everyone for listening.
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: As always, leave a great review and some nice stars.
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: And if you want ad-free and video, head on over
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- 1:01:47Speaker 3: Bye, Ems.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: Bye.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Drama darling. Drama darling.