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- 0:41Speaker 2: We backed another episode of Club for our twenty podcasts.
- 0:43Speaker 2: I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Special guest on my left, Indiana Legend in the building,
- 0:48Speaker 1: Introduce my man's last my far left. We got my dog.
- 0:51Speaker 1: This should be hearing out the periles. How you went nasty,
- 0:53Speaker 1: cool and nasty. Let's get to it.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Man, it's a long night, long night.
- 0:57Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm back though, I'm back a hundred and.
- 0:59Speaker 2: The neutral course get real tricky for sure, I'm back.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Look now he had a uniform normally here here with
- 1:05Speaker 1: the Black Forces with the white laces. You know something
- 1:08Speaker 1: from the two one nine. Have you ever seen the
- 1:10Speaker 1: Black Forces with the white lecens up north man.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Now with the white laces. I've seen in all black
- 1:15Speaker 4: the black laces.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Yeah? What that meaning? Two one on? What they got
- 1:20Speaker 3: us some forces? One?
- 1:21Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah that man? I mean you're ready step you
- 1:26Speaker 4: stepped watching the Black Forces. You gotta watch him go
- 1:29Speaker 4: he's doing.
- 1:30Speaker 3: I didn't put so much mud on the Black Force
- 1:33Speaker 3: like it wasn't like that one niggas didn't look at
- 1:35Speaker 3: people like that.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Bro, You're right.
- 1:37Speaker 4: I remember, man, I remember I had a middle school team.
- 1:39Speaker 4: All of them was hooping the low top Black Forces
- 1:42Speaker 4: hooping in them the game.
- 1:49Speaker 5: The whole team.
- 1:52Speaker 4: Team from Chicago Morgan Park, they all whole black like,
- 1:56Speaker 4: oh okay, get ready.
- 1:58Speaker 1: They pressed the whole game team flippers. But it's about right,
- 2:06Speaker 1: my dog, young I told your team you got you what?
- 2:08Speaker 4: And I'm cooling, man. We got a seven graduate. Yeah, bro,
- 2:13Speaker 4: it's gonna be a good show for sure. Man gigged
- 2:15Speaker 4: about this episode. Man, I ain't gonna hold you know
- 2:17Speaker 4: what I'm saying that two one nine.
- 2:19Speaker 1: I always love relationship up there, and I gotta say, man,
- 2:23Speaker 1: you are one of the most underrated players to come
- 2:25Speaker 1: out Indiana, Like one of the most underrated players that
- 2:29Speaker 1: don't get talking about enough from the state of Indiana,
- 2:31Speaker 1: from your high school career to your college career and
- 2:33Speaker 1: to having a decade plus in the league. Man, you
- 2:36Speaker 1: have one of the most underrated careers. Man, we're gonna
- 2:38Speaker 1: talk about that ship today. But if you don't know
- 2:39Speaker 1: who we got each one more and my dog man
- 2:41Speaker 1: appreciate you pulling up on the big job.
- 2:43Speaker 4: Appreciate having me. Man, I don't watch enough episode and
- 2:46Speaker 4: say Okay, by time I'm saying facts for sure.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Now I have my toe homies about I was like
- 2:53Speaker 1: Mike g GP Hollis like, hey, we gotta make that happen. Man,
- 2:56Speaker 1: I'm happy that we made happy without them, so we
- 2:58Speaker 1: can blame them for it.
- 3:00Speaker 3: Took my nigga to reil shout out the man, my
- 3:07Speaker 3: nigga put this together.
- 3:09Speaker 5: Love game.
- 3:09Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you big that look he really out
- 3:11Speaker 1: of pocket. He got to tell he got the basketart.
- 3:16Speaker 3: You know his love I had a loan.
- 3:20Speaker 4: You have a different he knew person about your career.
- 3:28Speaker 1: I feel for sure, man, we gotta take it back.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Like you said, class seven man growing up before having
- 3:35Speaker 1: any running.
- 3:36Speaker 4: Yeah, you remember the first time we played against him,
- 3:40Speaker 4: we thought him my boy field looking like.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Like like twin, let me twin, and he came out
- 3:48Speaker 2: and start killing us. We like he played for the
- 3:50Speaker 2: end of the league. I'm like, damn, this nigga nice,
- 3:53Speaker 2: like who is this nigga? And but he was cool,
- 3:55Speaker 2: he was like he is.
- 3:56Speaker 4: Now a full story. You know that the full we
- 3:59Speaker 4: were talking ship time story all the way, all the
- 4:07Speaker 4: way had went. So let me tell you how all
- 4:08Speaker 4: the way I went.
- 4:10Speaker 2: I want to an elite.
- 4:12Speaker 4: It's actually is actually our freshman year, our freshman year
- 4:16Speaker 4: of high school. And I'm playing with a whole bunch
- 4:18Speaker 4: of guys. I don't even know. They just know you
- 4:21Speaker 4: want to come. We're gonna get you some shoes, and
- 4:23Speaker 4: I'm yeah, come on, anything.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Free of me.
- 4:25Speaker 4: So pair of shoes, you get the travel, Come on,
- 4:29Speaker 4: I'm coming to hoop. So the guys are from middle
- 4:33Speaker 4: of Indiana. I don't know who nobody is. I'm the
- 4:35Speaker 4: only doing for EA Chicago. I'm just going out there
- 4:39Speaker 4: just hooping and and I see their team it's crazy.
- 4:42Speaker 4: I do remember the dude feel that hold on before
- 4:45Speaker 4: the game. They're like, man, you look like my boy
- 4:46Speaker 4: this show. When they joking on me, they don't say
- 4:48Speaker 4: they laughing. I'm like, okay, they think they think it's cool.
- 4:52Speaker 4: I think it's cool. That's crazy because you have the
- 4:54Speaker 4: long braids. Long braids. First, first couple of buckets, I
- 5:00Speaker 4: got you think you think he cold? Think he Cold's
- 5:04Speaker 4: they talking crazy? I'm on the team full of due
- 5:07Speaker 4: white dudes on my team and me and one other
- 5:09Speaker 4: black dude, and they never saw me before. Was the
- 5:13Speaker 4: first time that you know before that I ain't leave
- 5:16Speaker 4: out and gear each Chicago too. So that's my first
- 5:18Speaker 4: time even traveling the hoop. First couple of buckets. In
- 5:22Speaker 4: the next couple of buckets, are you weak ass? And
- 5:25Speaker 4: turned in and turned up a little about fifteen twenty
- 5:34Speaker 4: minutes of the game.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Are you a bit about time?
- 5:38Speaker 1: Oh?
- 5:38Speaker 3: Man?
- 5:39Speaker 4: He that comes to me clean. He's a bully, he man,
- 5:42Speaker 4: he was.
- 5:45Speaker 3: To that to you.
- 5:45Speaker 4: I got too out of got too many buck I
- 5:47Speaker 4: ain't even saying so one thing about me. Like most
- 5:49Speaker 4: people think I'm quiet, I ain't quiet. I'm just super
- 5:52Speaker 4: laid back man.
- 5:53Speaker 1: I can't.
- 5:54Speaker 2: I can't.
- 5:54Speaker 4: I can't talk, and who. So people like, man, you're quiet,
- 5:56Speaker 4: of course you just go up like I can't talk,
- 5:58Speaker 4: I can't function it. I ain't gonna I mess up
- 6:00Speaker 4: here play. I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot something crazy. I can't,
- 6:03Speaker 4: I can't talk, and who so you know what I'm saying.
- 6:05Speaker 4: I always just be chilling. I'll be mellow. I gotta
- 6:07Speaker 4: be calm.
- 6:09Speaker 2: So then a boy.
- 6:10Speaker 4: Then by one, I'm probably about taking about twenty points in.
- 6:15Speaker 4: I got a shoulder shove and everything. We just got
- 6:17Speaker 4: a little scuffing. I had to push him apart, like
- 6:21Speaker 4: you you know what I'm saying. But after that game,
- 6:24Speaker 4: but after that it was cool though. Man, But that
- 6:26Speaker 4: was our first time running to each souse. I'm like, damn, man,
- 6:28Speaker 4: he trying. You know what I'm saying. You want to smoke.
- 6:30Speaker 4: He wanted you want to swell. He was about the
- 6:36Speaker 4: same height, so we like I thought he was a forward.
- 6:39Speaker 4: He came out playing point guardship. I'm like, hell no,
- 6:43Speaker 4: after that, I knew who he was after that day.
- 6:46Speaker 4: Since then, though, it's been cool. Man sore. After that
- 6:49Speaker 4: for real, we just found out, like damn, I'm like Dan,
- 6:51Speaker 4: here's somebody else is like you know what I'm saying,
- 6:53Speaker 4: because I'm I mean, y'all Northeast, you know what I'm saying. Neighborhood,
- 6:57Speaker 4: neighborhood kids, probably the kids, but I'm leaving outside of here.
- 7:00Speaker 4: I'm thinking of all the other people from everywhere else
- 7:03Speaker 4: down and like preppy and like I'm like dann hold on.
- 7:06Speaker 4: They just like me. They talking like you know what
- 7:08Speaker 4: I'm saying. We hoopd the Indiana All STARF no crazy.
- 7:11Speaker 4: I played against you. Well I played let me tell
- 7:13Speaker 4: you this story. So I played against them for three minutes.
- 7:16Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, but we played when you was on
- 7:21Speaker 4: s y F. Yeah you Robbie. I had one too,
- 7:27Speaker 4: but a very time that we saw each other after, man,
- 7:29Speaker 4: it was cool.
- 7:30Speaker 2: That was cool.
- 7:31Speaker 4: I actually liked. I'm like, okay, they just like us.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Indian All Stars was a time man.
- 7:36Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, we had We had a
- 7:38Speaker 4: real good.
- 7:39Speaker 2: That's what I knew.
- 7:40Speaker 4: He was different though, All Stars because you know, everything
- 7:43Speaker 4: was geared around Eric. Like so we go to practice.
- 7:46Speaker 4: You know, they was all going to Indiana schools. I'm
- 7:49Speaker 4: going to wake so I wasn't getting no love. They
- 7:52Speaker 4: was the Purdue verse you and practice.
- 7:55Speaker 5: He like I got Eric.
- 7:56Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, it was average, Like I got him,
- 8:05Speaker 4: what's up? Like he different. I'm like, he's gonna be
- 8:10Speaker 4: go at it. I'm like, yeah, it's crazy because I
- 8:13Speaker 4: know people used to always try to like, uh, prepare
- 8:15Speaker 4: and at the time, I ain't gonna lie to you.
- 8:17Speaker 4: I thought I was cold. And then I'm like, I'm
- 8:19Speaker 4: colder than him. Can he ain't messed with you know
- 8:22Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
- 8:23Speaker 2: I look back.
- 8:24Speaker 4: I look back on him. I got once about time
- 8:26Speaker 4: I got to I said what he was like, I
- 8:31Speaker 4: was like, maybe way colder than me, Like he was strong.
- 8:34Speaker 4: They could have went to the NBA tenth grade.
- 8:37Speaker 3: I went to that game where I played them. He
- 8:40Speaker 3: had that fifty p you got your link back, got
- 8:48Speaker 3: his link back.
- 8:49Speaker 1: His career so underrating obviously at time period, like everybody
- 8:53Speaker 1: every year, we had consistent McDonald's Americans. But Eric was
- 8:57Speaker 1: so good, but y'all was just right there to It
- 9:00Speaker 1: just didn't help because everybody pushed that. But y'all was,
- 9:03Speaker 1: like you said, you wouldn't state the time where everybody
- 9:05Speaker 1: was caught.
- 9:06Speaker 2: You had to play everybody good to get that one yeah,
- 9:09Speaker 2: we had.
- 9:10Speaker 4: Yeah, competition was crazy as the amount of dudes that
- 9:13Speaker 4: made it to the league too. Man, I tell people
- 9:15Speaker 4: all the time, man a competition we was and one
- 9:18Speaker 4: like nobody doesn't no smoke. Everybody wanted to play against
- 9:21Speaker 4: each other. It was all love to at the same time.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Even with y'all, Like it was just so crazy because
- 9:26Speaker 1: pite even in years was going twenty two and four. Yeah,
- 9:29Speaker 1: you got to play Greg Golden and if you get
- 9:31Speaker 1: lucky and beat them, you get Eric Gordon.
- 9:33Speaker 2: That sh is crazy.
- 9:34Speaker 4: They had Josh roberts bro then we have people like
- 9:38Speaker 4: people forget like Dominique James.
- 9:40Speaker 2: That was cold rich Ship.
- 9:41Speaker 4: We played Juwana and then he was at Franklin Central.
- 9:44Speaker 4: They beat us one game, like damn really escape but
- 9:50Speaker 4: NBA player really Yeah basketball, I feel like indiwna high
- 9:53Speaker 4: school basketball the best in the country.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:56Speaker 4: I mean for other people, they might want to argue that.
- 9:58Speaker 1: For me, I feel like it's the best. It's especially
- 10:00Speaker 1: that air for sure, that goal there here. Everybody had
- 10:03Speaker 1: a NBA player. Everybody had multiple D one players. Like
- 10:05Speaker 1: you couldn't duck that smoke. But you said that seven
- 10:09Speaker 1: class man, I was y'all was different like all across
- 10:11Speaker 1: the board, like everybody who got drafted and then y'all
- 10:14Speaker 1: going to college.
- 10:15Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Did you know y'all almost
- 10:16Speaker 2: played college basketball together?
- 10:18Speaker 5: No?
- 10:19Speaker 1: No, No. He the reason I didn't play because I
- 10:24Speaker 1: just took my high school team to Purdue. I was
- 10:26Speaker 1: telling coach Painter like I had committed to Purdue, right,
- 10:30Speaker 1: but they had no scholarship for me, for real, because
- 10:33Speaker 1: of you.
- 10:34Speaker 4: Ide put his head on just like that somebody else.
- 10:44Speaker 2: It was like, I'm going to Purdue and he was like,
- 10:47Speaker 2: we don't got no scholarship because I got a highlight.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Coach he was just telling me, was like it was
- 10:53Speaker 2: between me and you, right.
- 10:55Speaker 4: But he was like he knew he was you and
- 10:57Speaker 4: Robbie was going to school together or something like that, right,
- 11:00Speaker 4: And he was like, uh, I ain't about to pass
- 11:03Speaker 4: up on you, twyning to rob you for you, Like really,
- 11:05Speaker 4: you're a different position. You're the man of point. And
- 11:08Speaker 4: I was like, but we all would have played together.
- 11:10Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, it was, I would taking no chances.
- 11:14Speaker 4: I was like, damn, but I wanted to go to
- 11:16Speaker 4: produce bad bro you have been That's why he went
- 11:18Speaker 4: the way for it. I'm gonna get some black and gold.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
- 11:22Speaker 4: We would have been so nasty that'd been That'd have
- 11:26Speaker 4: been crazy. And then when I mentioned then the All Stars,
- 11:29Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I swear what Coach Prosser had died
- 11:34Speaker 4: that summer.
- 11:35Speaker 2: So they was like, you can leave. You got like
- 11:37Speaker 2: thirty days ago wherever you want to go?
- 11:39Speaker 3: Right?
- 11:39Speaker 2: And I called my mom, was like you think we
- 11:40Speaker 2: should call for My dad was like, hey on not first,
- 11:44Speaker 2: I want you now why you want to go back there?
- 11:45Speaker 2: I'm like, it's been fun as hell, want cool as.
- 11:48Speaker 4: He even Rob like people ain't was as cool as
- 11:52Speaker 4: he was now for real, wed together in high school
- 11:54Speaker 4: and Paraiso probably what thirty five minutes from Chicago. I'm
- 11:58Speaker 4: saying I didn't win over that hung out with him,
- 12:01Speaker 4: kicked it. He cool, real, real cool man.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Yeah, and was cold like obviously in college, but high
- 12:06Speaker 1: school too, like Scott Maday, that's what I said for
- 12:09Speaker 1: y'all to win y'all regional up there, and like it was.
- 12:11Speaker 2: It was a lot of pros up there. Yeah for sure, Yeah,
- 12:14Speaker 2: a lot of pros.
- 12:15Speaker 4: It's crazy because even like in my high school team,
- 12:17Speaker 4: we had like six sets, like seventy one dudes, like
- 12:20Speaker 4: on my high school.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Shot he was cold.
- 12:25Speaker 4: Oh yeah he was cold.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:28Speaker 4: College so easy, Oh so easy. He's coming to open
- 12:31Speaker 4: gyms were for due. I think about he a lot,
- 12:34Speaker 4: d lyn. He he's six fol three ten, three fifteen,
- 12:38Speaker 4: and he coming out there killing off, killing some of
- 12:42Speaker 4: the dudes that was started. He come out there shooting three,
- 12:44Speaker 4: posting them up.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Light on his feet, bro, light on.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Who was the other dudes you had?
- 12:49Speaker 4: Man?
- 12:49Speaker 2: Angel?
- 12:50Speaker 4: Yeah, Angel, Yeah, we're hell.
- 12:52Speaker 2: He come from I don't know what.
- 12:55Speaker 4: Hey, you a fan A seven foot KD coming out.
- 13:02Speaker 2: I said, it came out of nowhere.
- 13:03Speaker 3: It was.
- 13:04Speaker 2: It was cold. I did not need that edition, bro
- 13:06Speaker 2: y'all did not need that edition.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Him kwan in that front corn and.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Dribbling the boll. I'm like, man, he got bullies.
- 13:17Speaker 4: I was like, he ain't. No, that's only that's only
- 13:20Speaker 4: English word, you know, pastor. Yeah, that's all he knew.
- 13:25Speaker 4: But man, he was nice.
- 13:26Speaker 2: It was nice for sure. Man.
- 13:28Speaker 1: And then obviously you know what I'm saying, you going
- 13:29Speaker 1: to Purdue having a crazy career a Purdue. How has
- 13:32Speaker 1: it been seeing him like with the success and like
- 13:34Speaker 1: back of that time period, like how was that playing in.
- 13:36Speaker 2: The Big Ten with the big team was the Big Ten?
- 13:39Speaker 2: Like everybody was lit there. Man, it was nice.
- 13:41Speaker 4: So it's crazy, Man, I ain't had a capable when
- 13:45Speaker 4: I grew up, you know what I'm saying. So Purdue
- 13:47Speaker 4: was one of the only few teams on TV. Purdue
- 13:49Speaker 4: and Illinois. It was closest to supposed to do. Tell me,
- 13:54Speaker 4: so you know me, I was watching the gaming, man, hag.
- 13:57Speaker 4: I wish I could hoop somewhere like that. So going
- 14:00Speaker 4: that was like crazy. I'm like, dang d when they
- 14:03Speaker 4: first off miss scholarship, I'm like, y'all show y'all want me,
- 14:05Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, because you just don't know.
- 14:08Speaker 4: But man, going out who especially Glenn Robinson for being
- 14:11Speaker 4: our way big dog us looking up to him.
- 14:13Speaker 1: That was that was crazy to go be on the
- 14:15Speaker 1: same court at that time period was so good. But
- 14:19Speaker 1: who is the part of the hardest matchup you had
- 14:21Speaker 1: in college? Who is that one player called you just
- 14:24Speaker 1: like that was the college person I played.
- 14:25Speaker 4: Against out of the Big Ten, just in general, because you.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Know, y'all had all seasons, y'all was going to the
- 14:30Speaker 2: tournaments and stuff like that.
- 14:32Speaker 5: I don't know it's.
- 14:33Speaker 4: Crazy because we called Steph like he's aid Davison, you
- 14:36Speaker 4: got to chase something around. He was going crazy, damn.
- 14:40Speaker 4: Obviously Ever Turner, who was even Turner in college was
- 14:44Speaker 4: crazy six eleven, I mean six seven point.
- 14:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:48Speaker 4: Man, it's a lot of it's so many, it's it's
- 14:50Speaker 4: just it's hard as to name. But those couple of people, Isaiah,
- 14:53Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas another look, he was going crazy at Washington.
- 14:56Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember Isaiah Thomas. My boy, he was tough.
- 15:01Speaker 2: But yeah, it was crazy.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Man, be planning on Twitter kind of like you like
- 15:06Speaker 1: you kind of like down play Acura, but just be
- 15:08Speaker 1: fun like yeah, you know, just you know, just walk
- 15:12Speaker 1: your way to the number two picks.
- 15:16Speaker 2: The year.
- 15:17Speaker 5: Come on. Man.
- 15:17Speaker 4: He was cold, he was unstoppable. He posting people up,
- 15:21Speaker 4: locking people at six seven he missed mash.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Yeah he was.
- 15:24Speaker 2: He was like that for sure. If you wasn't going
- 15:27Speaker 2: to Doue World, she was gonna go.
- 15:29Speaker 4: It's crazy. Other schools I like Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee. And
- 15:34Speaker 4: Georgia Tech was other two schools I like Tech. Yeah,
- 15:37Speaker 4: I like Georgia Tech. Paul Hill. You know, like I said,
- 15:40Speaker 4: I would left for some familiarity.
- 15:41Speaker 2: So I like Paul Hood, you.
- 15:43Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, Like I probably can relate to him.
- 15:45Speaker 4: And what I'm saying, you know, doing this thing in
- 15:48Speaker 4: Georgia text and the guys that went down there will
- 15:50Speaker 4: buying them, man, you know what I'm saying, Jack and
- 15:53Speaker 4: them and seeing their guards go out then ball out
- 15:56Speaker 4: and then Tennessee, I just like their style. They was
- 15:59Speaker 4: playing fast up timboat trapping.
- 16:03Speaker 3: You know.
- 16:03Speaker 4: Brucepurrol he was pretty cool too. So yeah, yeah, so
- 16:08Speaker 4: that I like.
- 16:09Speaker 3: But damn.
- 16:12Speaker 4: I met j J. Then they messed it up. Man.
- 16:15Speaker 4: They all, man, we should go to school to Yeah,
- 16:17Speaker 4: so I'm all, perfect.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Let's go do it. That's a help of that's a
- 16:21Speaker 2: help incoming class that he together.
- 16:22Speaker 4: Now they class really changed the whole thing for producing.
- 16:25Speaker 4: Y'all got it cracking again because Dave Dave t you
- 16:29Speaker 4: like a distant cousin. They didn't really have it going
- 16:33Speaker 4: like that, yeah, up and down. Yeah, then y'all came
- 16:37Speaker 4: and it just turned ever since then a powerhouse really. Yeah,
- 16:41Speaker 4: and it's crazy cool for Indiana just see. You know
- 16:43Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Indiana up, Yeah, because are you they
- 16:47Speaker 4: same thing they had been kind of up and down
- 16:49Speaker 4: for a little bit, so just the whole state.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Yeah, represent but.
- 16:53Speaker 1: Like getting like you and t it's wrong. It's a
- 16:56Speaker 1: little different than getting like are you getting like old
- 16:58Speaker 1: deep one them? It was like more reputation for people
- 17:00Speaker 1: from like city for sure. Now obviously you had a
- 17:04Speaker 1: crazy career. You know what I'm saying, It's time to declare.
- 17:06Speaker 1: How was that process for you?
- 17:09Speaker 3: Man?
- 17:09Speaker 4: That process is crazy. I mean people always ask you
- 17:12Speaker 4: to ask me the question, like, man, you always like
- 17:14Speaker 4: dream going and you always news to go there and
- 17:15Speaker 4: be I'm like, nah, I was just hoping first, just
- 17:19Speaker 4: because the oneing else to do is the hoop of
- 17:22Speaker 4: get in trouble. So I'm saying, I'm fall in love
- 17:25Speaker 4: with this basketball man. So me for real, I ain't
- 17:27Speaker 4: really realize I can go to the NBA, probably to
- 17:31Speaker 4: like my sophomore year. I know, after my sophomore going
- 17:34Speaker 4: to my junior year. My first couple of years, I'm
- 17:36Speaker 4: just hooping. I'm just having fun. I'm like, man, if
- 17:38Speaker 4: I can go over season, be more than I grew up.
- 17:44Speaker 4: I'll give you a little decent cor ye, give me
- 17:48Speaker 4: a little Cadillac, Give you a little decent. Yeah, but
- 17:59Speaker 4: for real, Jeff c was one of Jeff was one
- 18:02Speaker 4: of the dudes that inspired me for real because so
- 18:05Speaker 4: I saw him hooping and ball in. I saw him
- 18:07Speaker 4: like going, get ready to go to the li I'm like,
- 18:09Speaker 4: dangn these same dudes and I'm hooping against they going
- 18:13Speaker 4: and my class. You know what I'm saying, Like damn,
- 18:15Speaker 4: if they can do it, then I'm just saying like
- 18:16Speaker 4: I can do it too. It wasn't like it wasn't
- 18:20Speaker 4: like no envia like I was like, I'm like I'm
- 18:22Speaker 4: better than I'm like, damgn, hold on, but on the
- 18:24Speaker 4: same car fads of my class et. You know what
- 18:27Speaker 4: I'm saying. All the all guys that i'm saying was
- 18:30Speaker 4: in my class. But it's crazy, especially you was was
- 18:33Speaker 4: a big one. I was like, man, Joe, I'm like, dang,
- 18:36Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. From what I'm saying the
- 18:38Speaker 4: same type of doing like Dan, I feel like, you
- 18:40Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I got a shot. So after that,
- 18:42Speaker 4: like myself Moore going to my junior year, I did
- 18:44Speaker 4: all the extra stuff before. I wasn't really even lifting
- 18:46Speaker 4: weights or none of that. I was just just hooping.
- 18:49Speaker 4: I ain't ever had a trainer before that. Nothing like
- 18:52Speaker 4: I just I just used to hoop, you know what
- 18:54Speaker 4: I'm saying. But then once I got somebody that showed
- 18:56Speaker 4: me how to work out and show me how to
- 18:57Speaker 4: do stuff, then I was over that. But yeah, but
- 19:00Speaker 4: it was crazy, man, pre draft. You know, I'm going
- 19:04Speaker 4: out all the workouts. I had probably about fourteen workouts.
- 19:08Speaker 4: Let I know, all these things drifting.
- 19:09Speaker 2: When they got me come in. It's so crazy. You
- 19:13Speaker 2: got to do it.
- 19:14Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta do some of the teams like, man,
- 19:16Speaker 4: you got the fifteenth figure, I know I ain't going
- 19:18Speaker 4: to fit. Man, I'm barely on the draft. Boy, yeah,
- 19:23Speaker 4: you're going ahead working out for another fifteen. But but
- 19:26Speaker 4: it was cool though. Man, pre draft process and then
- 19:30Speaker 4: getting drafted is a long night for me. Fifty fifth pick.
- 19:34Speaker 4: But I feel like everything for a reason.
- 19:36Speaker 2: So sure, for sure.
- 19:37Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, to be second round pick
- 19:39Speaker 1: in half a decade the NBA, it's crazy. It's a
- 19:41Speaker 1: lot first rounds who fizzle out, don't get to that
- 19:44Speaker 1: second contrail.
- 19:45Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
- 19:46Speaker 3: Man.
- 19:46Speaker 1: You've been in a couple of cities, man, I mean, unbiasedly,
- 19:49Speaker 1: what's one of your favorite cities?
- 19:50Speaker 2: You played in.
- 19:51Speaker 4: Played in Man, it's crazy, but I mean I'm not
- 19:55Speaker 4: you based. You're laying for the Bulls is crazy.
- 19:58Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm growing up.
- 20:00Speaker 4: Like I said again, I had a cable, so only
- 20:02Speaker 4: game came on and ser Bulls and some of the pacers.
- 20:05Speaker 4: But I'm Channel nine w G. You know what I'm saying,
- 20:07Speaker 4: im getting all the you know what I'm saying, growing
- 20:09Speaker 4: up during the mid nineties. Jordan era real. I mean,
- 20:12Speaker 4: it's just a real. I mean I never even even
- 20:15Speaker 4: dreamed of that. You know what I'm saying, that I'd
- 20:16Speaker 4: be playing for the Bulls. You know, you be outside
- 20:18Speaker 4: Jordan's you doing moves. But you know what I'm saying,
- 20:21Speaker 4: you never really thought. You thought you have to be
- 20:23Speaker 4: lucky to make it that far, you know what I'm saying.
- 20:25Speaker 4: So so that was crazy. All my folks get to
- 20:27Speaker 4: come see me, come to the games. Uh, tickets with
- 20:30Speaker 4: created everybody need a ticket but your hotel, everybody trying
- 20:36Speaker 4: to pull take it. I got a little smart with it.
- 20:38Speaker 4: I got a little smart with it though, because everybody
- 20:40Speaker 4: want to come to the game with Lebron You're playing
- 20:44Speaker 4: the Celtis or something.
- 20:46Speaker 2: I had to spread it out.
- 20:47Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't got nothing for this, but you come
- 20:49Speaker 4: playing about to play Detroit, you want some you gotta learn,
- 20:58Speaker 4: you gotta spread them out in these days. So you
- 21:00Speaker 4: gotta know what I'm saying.
- 21:02Speaker 3: They were coming to what you're trying to do. Man,
- 21:06Speaker 3: I got my god.
- 21:12Speaker 4: But yeah, so uh yeah, I got I got a
- 21:14Speaker 4: little smart with it after after what I'm saying started out,
- 21:17Speaker 4: I ain't got none of this, but you come to
- 21:18Speaker 4: the next week, you free on free on Thursday. You
- 21:21Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So but it was cool though, Man,
- 21:24Speaker 4: everybody come see Washington ball.
- 21:26Speaker 2: So it was dope for sure. Man, that's that that bulls.
- 21:29Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Crazy seven class again you
- 21:32Speaker 2: and d ros the same team?
- 21:33Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was that was that was That's that's
- 21:35Speaker 4: crazy to d rose Man another I know seven. I
- 21:38Speaker 4: ben't know him since middle school. First time we hoved
- 21:41Speaker 4: together to Crazy that's crazy. It's like first time, Jeff,
- 21:44Speaker 4: we was in the gym and the remember that it's
- 21:47Speaker 4: like a little nothing right right.
- 21:52Speaker 5: Gym.
- 21:55Speaker 2: Now, I'm telling like the gym was like, oh yeah.
- 21:57Speaker 4: They had woods sticking up and I don't know where
- 22:00Speaker 4: they are is at. But d Road. Same thing, man,
- 22:04Speaker 4: you know him being you know me from being from
- 22:06Speaker 4: East Chicago, Indiana. I just kind of crazy. I always
- 22:09Speaker 4: got to explain that to people your first car, like nah,
- 22:12Speaker 4: it's technically Indiana, but other people they just run with us.
- 22:15Speaker 4: But this school, I get the best of both worlds.
- 22:17Speaker 4: I'm on the border, so you get the best. You
- 22:19Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I get the best of both worlds.
- 22:20Speaker 4: And d Roe's only being probably twenty minutes away. We
- 22:24Speaker 4: was in middle school. First time I saw him. Man,
- 22:26Speaker 4: he was crazy. What we like seventh going in the
- 22:30Speaker 4: eighth grade, and I'm telling he them the jumping from
- 22:32Speaker 4: the free throw line.
- 22:33Speaker 2: He was crazy.
- 22:34Speaker 4: And in middle school were on a little sade Joah
- 22:37Speaker 4: think we like provised on East High School, something little
- 22:39Speaker 4: like a Zillia. You know you got the gym, you
- 22:41Speaker 4: got the gym upstairs to the side, man for the
- 22:45Speaker 4: free throw I'm telling you about. Like now, So I'm thinking,
- 22:48Speaker 4: so when I'm I'm young, like I said, I haven't
- 22:50Speaker 4: been out really outside, like I'm always hooping thirty forty
- 22:54Speaker 4: minute radius and I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm the coldest dude.
- 22:56Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm from I saw him.
- 22:59Speaker 4: I'm like, I went back to the to the crib.
- 23:01Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, My look at my neighborhood.
- 23:03Speaker 4: I gotta just this dude. I'm telling you his whole
- 23:06Speaker 4: he is the bat. I'm telling like, man, you go
- 23:08Speaker 4: to go to Lee out of eighth grade and went
- 23:13Speaker 4: I went back home to my father, daddy, all them.
- 23:15Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I saw this dude. That was crazy.
- 23:18Speaker 4: So that was cool for us, you know what I'm saying,
- 23:20Speaker 4: going way back then to be on the same team.
- 23:22Speaker 1: I think that's what the craziest parallel is like, even
- 23:25Speaker 1: for the crib, for like E and Ship, it's just like,
- 23:27Speaker 1: even if you're not going around no places like these
- 23:30Speaker 1: are the best niggas everywhere. But they really are though,
- 23:32Speaker 1: Like it ain't even just you being biased that's the best. No,
- 23:34Speaker 1: they're better than everybody everywhere everywhere them too.
- 23:37Speaker 2: Almost going to college together in your class is crazy.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Still.
- 23:40Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's sick.
- 23:41Speaker 2: I'm playing you streets. Did y'all play me in Streets?
- 23:45Speaker 5: Yep?
- 23:46Speaker 4: Play from the Peace Dam Championship. I'm mad they boxing
- 23:50Speaker 4: won me too, shot my boy, Reggie rose Man. That's
- 23:58Speaker 4: what I got before the game said he like, he
- 24:01Speaker 4: can't never say my name right each time. You ain't
- 24:03Speaker 4: getting off. Today I got some foo you I got something.
- 24:07Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just laughing. I'm laid back, all right. Man.
- 24:11Speaker 4: He won't let me touch the ball. It was crazy, man,
- 24:14Speaker 4: I'm too that was electric. It's crazy because he offered me.
- 24:17Speaker 4: He tried to get me come play with them too.
- 24:19Speaker 4: He yeah, come over here, man, Man, you're gonna be
- 24:21Speaker 4: crazy and you can shoot, so they gonna get I'm like, nah,
- 24:24Speaker 4: I ain't enough balls over there. Yeah, enough basketball.
- 24:32Speaker 2: If you would have played on that team, because we
- 24:33Speaker 2: played them in a big time final four.
- 24:35Speaker 5: All right.
- 24:35Speaker 2: We was beating about like twenty.
- 24:37Speaker 4: Yeah, every crossed me a half court and dunked on
- 24:40Speaker 4: this dude name Tommy Freeman right right.
- 24:43Speaker 2: Boom, crowd went crazy.
- 24:44Speaker 4: They called the charge. Reggie jumped on the court, got
- 24:48Speaker 4: a tech with crazy. So you know, Indiana Ship, we
- 24:51Speaker 4: started kind of like holding the ball a little bit.
- 24:54Speaker 1: Started going crazy, like we sick of that white boy stuff,
- 24:57Speaker 1: like they're doing crazy on it.
- 24:59Speaker 2: So we start trying to hoop and Eric went for
- 25:01Speaker 2: like forty in the second half.
- 25:02Speaker 5: Bro.
- 25:03Speaker 2: They beat us about twenty was up.
- 25:05Speaker 4: I was like, he was a different monster. Come on,
- 25:09Speaker 4: not literally out of tenth grade. He could have went
- 25:11Speaker 4: to the league and averaged fifteen out of twelfth grade
- 25:15Speaker 4: last two years of high school. He was just he
- 25:17Speaker 4: was really just was he was just having fun.
- 25:20Speaker 3: He was already.
- 25:23Speaker 4: You said the description.
- 25:25Speaker 2: He could have went to the league sophomore.
- 25:27Speaker 4: It's crazy, like literally, manep saw like that, like for
- 25:31Speaker 4: he was for real, he was legit.
- 25:33Speaker 3: What's the best team you didn't played on? I think
- 25:35Speaker 3: I know, but it's your career.
- 25:38Speaker 4: He's best team and ANBA my best team. Oh that's
- 25:46Speaker 4: hard to say because I mean, my boss, my first
- 25:50Speaker 4: year was crazy. We played them. I'm gonna really get
- 25:53Speaker 4: in the game. They might put me in for a
- 25:55Speaker 4: defensive getting there for three seconds.
- 25:58Speaker 6: About that, you know what I'm saying, kid, I could
- 26:03Speaker 6: be out of the twelve. Throw me up for three minutes.
- 26:06Speaker 6: Come out, you know you know kids, look let me
- 26:18Speaker 6: on everything, bust something up.
- 26:21Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
- 26:22Speaker 2: I don't know that.
- 26:23Speaker 4: It's a processing business.
- 26:26Speaker 2: Process, bron.
- 26:30Speaker 4: They might throw me in, you know, doctors, man, throw
- 26:33Speaker 4: me in into the second quarter for the last forty
- 26:37Speaker 4: seconds or something like something crazy might being found from here.
- 26:40Speaker 4: Just throw you little stuff like that.
- 26:42Speaker 2: But it was crazy.
- 26:43Speaker 4: But no, my boss was crazy.
- 26:45Speaker 3: Man, I was crazy.
- 26:47Speaker 5: Bro.
- 26:47Speaker 4: The Pelicans thing, yeah, I know, I heard y'all talking
- 26:50Speaker 4: about that before. Yeah, we all thought we were for sure.
- 26:53Speaker 4: We all thought we was gonna We thought we had
- 26:55Speaker 4: a chance to win the chip for sure.
- 26:57Speaker 2: That's one of the most the teams that don't get
- 26:59Speaker 2: spoke on enough.
- 27:00Speaker 4: That team was sick just with Boogie and a d Bro.
- 27:02Speaker 4: It's like a twin tow. It was crazy like it was.
- 27:05Speaker 4: And then you had really three combo guards. You know
- 27:09Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I'm playing a small but I really
- 27:12Speaker 4: but I really could play the point and two. So
- 27:15Speaker 4: it's like, you know what I'm saying. It was crazy
- 27:17Speaker 4: like we had mismatch and then we often guard anybody.
- 27:21Speaker 4: I heard like, yeah, I was okay switching with Dre.
- 27:23Speaker 2: I was switching to.
- 27:25Speaker 3: That's what.
- 27:27Speaker 4: I play. I can lock up too. But yeah, so
- 27:32Speaker 4: it was so it was crazy, man. We was playing
- 27:34Speaker 4: so fast man, so bully and get hurt for show.
- 27:37Speaker 4: We definitely thought we had We all started clicking, you
- 27:42Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Everybody started knowing it rolls start
- 27:45Speaker 4: you know, you know what it felt like. You ain't
- 27:47Speaker 4: really even got to talk no more. It's just okay automatic.
- 27:50Speaker 4: You already know that.
- 27:52Speaker 2: I used to do that pistol action, set the slip
- 27:55Speaker 2: the screen. I hate that ship.
- 27:56Speaker 4: It was crazy because the thing we used to do
- 27:59Speaker 4: it so fast. People they know it's coming. They know
- 28:03Speaker 4: it's coming.
- 28:03Speaker 3: Man.
- 28:04Speaker 4: He used to push off and get the little pass though.
- 28:07Speaker 4: Drew was hello good at that ship. Be like, Bro,
- 28:10Speaker 4: they're playing too fast teams, the players that the man
- 28:13Speaker 4: slow down. Like man, we used to be flying. It
- 28:16Speaker 4: was so crazy. He was playing so fast sometimes. But
- 28:18Speaker 4: bug will touch the ball for like five possession. Man, y'all,
- 28:24Speaker 4: y'all up the court. He he gonna give us one
- 28:30Speaker 4: of two was one of the two touches. Man, y'all
- 28:33Speaker 4: y'all flying like ship.
- 28:37Speaker 3: Bro for sure.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Man, that's great. That was fun. And to hear y'all
- 28:40Speaker 2: talk about he's still doing it to this day.
- 28:42Speaker 1: To see Drew, how they still killing like start off
- 28:45Speaker 1: even with y'all still can see I mean he in Boston,
- 28:48Speaker 1: Like it's just crazy to hear like all the stuff
- 28:50Speaker 1: that y'all talked about, and now to keep seeing it.
- 28:52Speaker 1: Then people start technology because he was back when Drew
- 28:55Speaker 1: went crazy and locked up down.
- 28:57Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, man, that was sick. That was I
- 29:01Speaker 4: mean Drew, he wanted all the smoke. He and dun
- 29:02Speaker 4: no smoke.
- 29:03Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 29:04Speaker 4: That's one thing, you know, gall on the team with him,
- 29:07Speaker 4: the best player on every team, Like it is either
- 29:10Speaker 4: you're gonna bust you gonna you're gonna you're gonna give it,
- 29:13Speaker 4: You're gonna mess him up, he gonna mess you. It
- 29:15Speaker 4: ain't no in between. You know what I'm saying. That
- 29:17Speaker 4: he coming at you, you going at him. So that's
- 29:20Speaker 4: one thing each and every night. You know what I'm saying.
- 29:22Speaker 4: He's a he's a competitor and that's my guy. That's
- 29:24Speaker 4: probably one of the one of my one of my
- 29:27Speaker 4: teammates I talked to the most. That's the league.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Good dude, what you're gonna be here? Drew Drew.
- 29:41Speaker 5: Cold.
- 29:42Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't understand, Like even man think about what
- 29:45Speaker 4: he's in Philly, like man, how cold he was like man,
- 29:48Speaker 4: Handles was crazy. Man. He used to be so athletic
- 29:52Speaker 4: like man. He used to take off with the leven Man.
- 29:56Speaker 4: Drew Cold just done to see him still doing the
- 29:58Speaker 4: same ship, still playing, are still killing, still locking people up?
- 30:01Speaker 4: So you got some good knees.
- 30:03Speaker 2: I don't know what he ran.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Out of the round playing under the room. Slow down, bro,
- 30:14Speaker 3: it's not one. Mike Colley still in.
- 30:18Speaker 5: The league, still under the.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Under the round players challenge for sure?
- 30:24Speaker 4: Right about that?
- 30:27Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, man, obviously you still still up
- 30:30Speaker 1: the game heavily. Who's some of the younger guards you like?
- 30:33Speaker 1: You say young some of the young guards you like guards?
- 30:36Speaker 1: I mean, man, you name it's crazy shave shake go crazy?
- 30:41Speaker 1: Oh man, say shake go crazy. You can't even speed
- 30:44Speaker 1: him up like he's being slow motion.
- 30:46Speaker 4: He's so crafty. You know, you know what I'm saying,
- 30:48Speaker 4: get them files. Obviously you got job. I mean, you
- 30:52Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Forget about Joab. You know you
- 30:55Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, out of say out of mind.
- 30:56Speaker 4: Everybody just keeps forgetting about. But man, he a beast.
- 31:00Speaker 4: I mean, I've got Maxie. Nobody expected for him to
- 31:03Speaker 4: be as good as he is. He's cold, Yeah, MAXI
- 31:06Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. For him to do what
- 31:07Speaker 4: you do, it's crazy, but yeah, it's just a man.
- 31:10Speaker 4: It's a whole bunch of guards. Them call get my
- 31:14Speaker 4: boy colder shut out. Just that's my boy, my boy cole.
- 31:18Speaker 4: He right here in Orlando and to show some love.
- 31:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 31:21Speaker 4: Man looking good too, Yeah, Orlando A they gonna be
- 31:25Speaker 4: something recking with maybe mano man wow man. Oh yeah,
- 31:33Speaker 4: they got a nice young corps. Man. They got a
- 31:35Speaker 4: lot of basketball too. That's that's that's kind of tough.
- 31:38Speaker 4: You know what, that big, those big lineups. You know
- 31:41Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Everybody everybody six six is taller. They
- 31:46Speaker 4: was starting Marfa Markel at the at the point he's
- 31:48Speaker 4: six five six six and everybody else six a the taller.
- 31:52Speaker 2: Man.
- 31:52Speaker 4: That's tough. They all locking up because molds too. Man,
- 31:56Speaker 4: he's doing his thing.
- 31:57Speaker 2: So he'd be cold. He got the extension to be Yeah.
- 32:00Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nice. First time coach. You know what I'm saying.
- 32:04Speaker 4: Hell yeah, them being you know what I'm saying, one
- 32:07Speaker 4: of us. That's that's pretty cool because we now get
- 32:09Speaker 4: that same.
- 32:10Speaker 1: So that's that's because a lot of times you see,
- 32:12Speaker 1: like you see situations, most of black coaches getting really
- 32:15Speaker 1: tough situations. They gotta turned around the whole bunch before
- 32:17Speaker 1: they get a chance to even with the benefits and
- 32:19Speaker 1: them turn around so quick.
- 32:20Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a turnaround. I mean a lot of
- 32:23Speaker 4: people on the outside probably won't look for them to
- 32:25Speaker 4: be as good as quick as they were. But when
- 32:28Speaker 4: I came back and play here was that, you know,
- 32:32Speaker 4: something like that. But man, I'm like, yeah, they they're
- 32:34Speaker 4: gonna be all right. They got a squad, They're gonna
- 32:37Speaker 4: be good going forward. They probably gonna be like right
- 32:39Speaker 4: behind Boston next year if they take that next week
- 32:41Speaker 4: in Boston, if they take that next they got the
- 32:46Speaker 4: like you said, they got the big line up.
- 32:47Speaker 2: They can switch one through five. They got everybody talented and.
- 32:51Speaker 4: They play together.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Yeah. Take They need a bucket out if they need it.
- 32:56Speaker 2: They need a bucket I mean if I take that
- 32:58Speaker 2: next leap and just become the guy guy, Yeah, they
- 33:02Speaker 2: they got it.
- 33:02Speaker 4: They just need a little bit more shooting. Yeah, a
- 33:04Speaker 4: little bit more.
- 33:05Speaker 1: A lot of people saying Blake Monk would look perfect
- 33:07Speaker 1: on that team. They need a guard Hooper score. Maybe
- 33:11Speaker 1: not Malik exactly, but they need a guard Hooper score
- 33:13Speaker 1: for sure.
- 33:14Speaker 3: Can go get them a dub a night though they.
- 33:16Speaker 4: Don't really need to guard and score. Somebody's make some shots.
- 33:21Speaker 5: Get your solid.
- 33:23Speaker 4: They need saying about somebody hit them timely shots, like
- 33:26Speaker 4: when you need somebody make a big shot, big play,
- 33:29Speaker 4: but you can depend.
- 33:30Speaker 3: Onlik need the peel now.
- 33:35Speaker 2: I don't want you know him and with my favorite
- 33:39Speaker 2: back for ever. They need like an Austin Reeves.
- 33:43Speaker 4: The magic they ain't gonna get, but they need like
- 33:46Speaker 4: they can make shots and he can still handle the
- 33:48Speaker 4: ball stuff.
- 33:50Speaker 3: That's true.
- 33:50Speaker 2: They not getting him.
- 33:51Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what the player. They need, somebody like I
- 33:55Speaker 4: mean with the purpose. Milik might be too much. You
- 34:01Speaker 4: need a ball brope with you, bro, somebody has the
- 34:06Speaker 4: cheese would have been nice to them, perfect cheese. Oh man,
- 34:10Speaker 4: so good. Somebody can get a bug at timely twenty
- 34:13Speaker 4: every night and get eighteen to twenty when it matter
- 34:17Speaker 4: and and it looks explosive.
- 34:18Speaker 2: You know what.
- 34:18Speaker 4: I'm like, somebody like him, be per, But I mean
- 34:21Speaker 4: you might be able to get like Bogie Bogie. Oh yeah,
- 34:25Speaker 4: you gotta be nice.
- 34:29Speaker 3: Nice.
- 34:30Speaker 4: I got to get him healthy, healthy, yeah, Bogy nice man.
- 34:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Because the Inastern Conference is that that young talent
- 34:37Speaker 2: is the day up there.
- 34:39Speaker 3: They got a chance. It's pretty weak over there. Miwaking
- 34:47Speaker 3: with her mention her now when they was what the
- 34:51Speaker 3: patient was moving on.
- 34:56Speaker 2: I don't get I don't care. I don't care. I
- 35:00Speaker 2: ain't I'm not rolling with the Pacings.
- 35:02Speaker 1: This year's that ship for gott enjoyed my season, bron.
- 35:09Speaker 3: G Bro triggered me.
- 35:12Speaker 4: Bro had for a couple of years.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Man, I have year. I love I love playing for
- 35:20Speaker 2: that was the best year of my life. But man,
- 35:24Speaker 2: show you say.
- 35:29Speaker 5: Like I have freedom.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Bro?
- 35:34Speaker 2: You know you got freedom. I freedom with the Hawks,
- 35:37Speaker 2: Bro Spurs. Bro, you had to do it a certain way.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Yeah, your career I got Bro. They was like, you
- 35:46Speaker 1: could do whatever. You just past the PG after that,
- 35:49Speaker 1: you can do what.
- 35:49Speaker 4: You say on the mic and keeping it real.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Right now, I'm keeping it real. I'm talking far.
- 35:54Speaker 4: Off the field, he said. I don't take it.
- 36:01Speaker 3: Though, I'll be fucking with you like I even got it.
- 36:04Speaker 3: I'm like, Bro, why do you want to come here?
- 36:05Speaker 3: Like He's love Indianapolis throw and through. So I know
- 36:08Speaker 3: he was going playing for the patients. Eventually, you know
- 36:11Speaker 3: that was cool.
- 36:11Speaker 2: So what made you?
- 36:12Speaker 4: I saw you got forty four to was.
- 36:16Speaker 2: So yeah, you think it's about forty four.
- 36:20Speaker 4: When I was in high school with forty four because
- 36:22Speaker 4: I wanted the biggest shorts and then like all my friends,
- 36:26Speaker 4: I grew up on the West side Indianapolis, so like
- 36:29Speaker 4: it was to represent them so I could do that.
- 36:32Speaker 5: Wow, man, all the top definitely was fast.
- 36:49Speaker 2: He definitely was. It was crazy.
- 36:52Speaker 4: So man, funny story, my brother was at the game
- 36:55Speaker 4: and he nine years old of me, so he used
- 36:57Speaker 4: to get to come see me play a lot and
- 36:59Speaker 4: he saw me playing against y'all and the game we
- 37:01Speaker 4: got into it. Like, Bro, you know they're from then.
- 37:04Speaker 2: Now it's a whole It might be a whole bunch of.
- 37:07Speaker 4: Like the like get me a jumped. That was cool though. Man,
- 37:13Speaker 4: that's the story.
- 37:13Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy, go way back, Man, that's crazy. Man
- 37:17Speaker 1: shout to the seven draft class now Indianada guys. Man,
- 37:19Speaker 1: like I said, Man, we give your flasers. You definitely
- 37:21Speaker 1: one of the people who desire about one of the
- 37:23Speaker 1: most outther writed players. It does not get talked about
- 37:25Speaker 1: what we talk about players from from Indiana going crazy.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Bro sire, I bring them up Favery time.
- 37:32Speaker 5: Ahead.
- 37:33Speaker 4: I'm saying, I just bring him up every time, him Eric,
- 37:35Speaker 4: all them tails on the Indiana All Stars. I talk
- 37:37Speaker 4: about it all the time because I was like it
- 37:39Speaker 4: was no team better than us and ever come out
- 37:41Speaker 4: of Indian All Stars.
- 37:42Speaker 2: Bro. Everybody close, know, so you know what's crazy?
- 37:47Speaker 4: You know the Junior All Stars play to Senior All Star.
- 37:50Speaker 2: We we was killing.
- 37:54Speaker 4: Year two years older. Were killing them like I'm about
- 37:57Speaker 4: not even close, like killing them.
- 37:59Speaker 2: It's crazy week close.
- 38:00Speaker 3: And that was Michaels hold on niggas.
- 38:02Speaker 4: Yeah ye don't want those smoke, yell, don't want those smoke.
- 38:06Speaker 2: I played, they played, but they smacked.
- 38:10Speaker 4: It was like three games, like a North South and
- 38:12Speaker 4: it was like.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Our our senior year. I player our junior year. I
- 38:15Speaker 2: got in trouble. I even play.
- 38:19Speaker 7: Yeah we murdered, yeah yeah yeah play. They beat them
- 38:27Speaker 7: like fifty he didn't have to go to sleep.
- 38:31Speaker 2: Running around the hotel. Yeah yeah, fregating. That was our
- 38:44Speaker 2: pre game in c L BRO.
- 38:47Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's crazy.
- 38:50Speaker 2: I never forget this day. I was like, all these
- 38:52Speaker 2: dudes is cool.
- 38:52Speaker 1: Bro.
- 38:53Speaker 2: The my homies for life.
- 38:54Speaker 5: BRO.
- 38:54Speaker 4: That I had one of the most fun times though
- 38:56Speaker 4: fund stands playing basketball and down All Star man, we
- 38:59Speaker 4: had a ball. We had to make our own fun too,
- 39:01Speaker 4: because we had some games. I was in Evansville and
- 39:04Speaker 4: I know we've been in before we one time it
- 39:08Speaker 4: was like Martinsville.
- 39:09Speaker 5: We were like.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Having Mars is crazy.
- 39:14Speaker 4: Now some places. Brother, I was like, I ain't hold
- 39:16Speaker 4: on y'all, y'all might be.
- 39:20Speaker 5: Away.
- 39:20Speaker 4: I'm away up north, so I don't want used to
- 39:22Speaker 4: going to some places. So we know what I'm saying
- 39:25Speaker 4: over the story. We made our own fun, like no
- 39:27Speaker 4: matter what we went every every city we went to,
- 39:30Speaker 4: we was we was clowning.
- 39:31Speaker 3: Man.
- 39:31Speaker 4: We had a we had a ball. We had we're
- 39:32Speaker 4: making our own parties and we it was crazy.
- 39:35Speaker 2: That's it's a good thing.
- 39:37Speaker 4: We didn't have no cameras.
- 39:43Speaker 2: We had so much fun.
- 39:45Speaker 4: Those stories that man, if you want that and you
- 39:49Speaker 4: want to know about it.
- 39:49Speaker 2: But we was clowning.
- 39:51Speaker 4: We had the ball.
- 39:52Speaker 3: So I remember you'll came bro. Your freshman year, y'all
- 39:55Speaker 3: played ripple came down.
- 39:58Speaker 5: You remember that. That's I knew.
- 40:00Speaker 3: That's what I used to behave. But you killed yeah
- 40:07Speaker 3: this nigga. Yeah, walk in the gym, you feel me?
- 40:10Speaker 3: You you swaggy. I had the big ass weekend. So
- 40:14Speaker 3: they came in like a.
- 40:15Speaker 2: College three years look college, all right.
- 40:21Speaker 3: They put my nigger the power four bro.
- 40:24Speaker 4: Damn, that's great man. He yeah, he take it away back.
- 40:26Speaker 3: You play power four, Bro? You had a you had
- 40:28Speaker 3: like twenty and fifteen Bro.
- 40:30Speaker 4: Crazy, you know what's crazy? That was my second high
- 40:33Speaker 4: school game.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I say I was always because we used to
- 40:37Speaker 2: pull up on you.
- 40:38Speaker 4: Yeah, that was only my second. One's crazy. So you
- 40:41Speaker 4: say that because at first I thought I was gonna
- 40:44Speaker 4: be I thought it was gonna be six eight, like
- 40:46Speaker 4: he said, I was the same height. Yeah, grow that much.
- 40:49Speaker 4: I was already like six to two. You know what
- 40:51Speaker 4: I'm saying. Come on the first year and I'm saying
- 40:53Speaker 4: I'm handling. But so I used to see teammate Tmger
- 40:56Speaker 4: is my favorite player about man, but Mac was my
- 41:01Speaker 4: favorite player. Was he was my favorite player growing up. So, man,
- 41:04Speaker 4: I always was like a big guard. Since I'm sixth grade,
- 41:07Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm five five ten, sixth
- 41:11Speaker 4: grade point and I'm saying point forward, So I'm saying
- 41:14Speaker 4: I thought I was. I thought I was gonna be
- 41:15Speaker 4: six eight, So I'm saying I thought would be like
- 41:17Speaker 4: a point foward.
- 41:18Speaker 2: So it's crazy, that's what I said.
- 41:19Speaker 3: I said, Damn, he played just like me. The first
- 41:27Speaker 3: forward with the light on it.
- 41:31Speaker 2: That's why you did the.
- 41:36Speaker 3: Like, yeah, so when did you start playing guard?
- 41:42Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 41:42Speaker 3: See though, so it's.
- 41:44Speaker 4: Crazy, like you said. By the time he saw me playing,
- 41:47Speaker 4: I mean, he was like, man, he's playing the point.
- 41:48Speaker 4: But I started transfer once I saw one growing no more,
- 41:51Speaker 4: I'm like, hold up, just really really like my freshman year,
- 41:55Speaker 4: I started trying, like hold on, I ain't growing no more.
- 41:58Speaker 4: I was six to two at the start of the.
- 42:00Speaker 2: End of the year.
- 42:00Speaker 4: I'm still sick.
- 42:02Speaker 5: I'm still six to so.
- 42:04Speaker 3: Man.
- 42:04Speaker 4: After that, I gotta get my guards skilled straight. It's crazy,
- 42:08Speaker 4: and I couldn't. I couldn't even shoot threes then if
- 42:12Speaker 4: pose game after getting too the whole I had like
- 42:15Speaker 4: a little wire shot. But I had my like my godfather,
- 42:18Speaker 4: coach Bobby Mouse. He took me under his wing and
- 42:21Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and he's like man like, man,
- 42:25Speaker 4: if you want to have a chance to go to
- 42:26Speaker 4: the lead, you gotta you gotta be a guard, and
- 42:28Speaker 4: you gotta learn how to shoot.
- 42:29Speaker 3: Man.
- 42:29Speaker 4: He used to come get me like six o'clock in
- 42:32Speaker 4: the morning and bring me to the gym, had me
- 42:35Speaker 4: doing form shooting and all that changed my whole change
- 42:38Speaker 4: my whole shot. And man, that was bid you know
- 42:41Speaker 4: what I'm saying, so credit, Yeah, I'm in death to
- 42:44Speaker 4: him forever.
- 42:45Speaker 3: So he was a dog. Bro.
- 42:51Speaker 4: I used to always signs of high school, always look
- 42:54Speaker 4: forward to coming to Indy. You know what I'm saying,
- 42:55Speaker 4: coming out there the hoop, that's all the teams. So
- 42:58Speaker 4: that's crazy stressing.
- 43:01Speaker 3: I was a scout early seventh once he make it out,
- 43:09Speaker 3: that's the tig We used to go to the Chicago
- 43:15Speaker 3: play and I had people out there. I'm like, who
- 43:16Speaker 3: these niggas is living like this because yeah what I said,
- 43:20Speaker 3: they finish break nigga, take it out the game.
- 43:27Speaker 4: Yeah, you come to the man, You come out high
- 43:28Speaker 4: school games crazy, man, like I Bro, I hold all
- 43:31Speaker 4: our neighborhoods was behind us, Like you come to a game,
- 43:34Speaker 4: the whole bottom sections, all dudes from neighborhood. They're talking
- 43:37Speaker 4: crazy and ye arena.
- 43:40Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, the hardest high school gym that we played in.
- 43:42Speaker 2: Bro.
- 43:43Speaker 4: Yeah it was tough.
- 43:43Speaker 2: It was said before, Yeah like that was y'all know.
- 43:47Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all know. Came up to Willie Fraser.
- 43:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm tapped my big bros for sure.
- 43:57Speaker 2: For sure. Man, listen man, we appreciate at your rock
- 44:00Speaker 2: wet man we gotta do this again. Man, Yeah, we
- 44:02Speaker 2: gotta do this again.
- 44:03Speaker 3: Man.
- 44:03Speaker 2: We gotta get like shopping it with the homie for sure. Man.
- 44:06Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Man, next time I gotta come. I gotta
- 44:08Speaker 4: come nowt town man, come to come through.
- 44:11Speaker 2: Man. I love man.
- 44:12Speaker 3: What you got going on?
- 44:13Speaker 1: Man?
- 44:14Speaker 3: You want to speak on anything you got ahead or
- 44:16Speaker 3: what you're doing now? Any new business visits you want
- 44:18Speaker 3: to speak on?
- 44:19Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. I like all moneybody want to
- 44:23Speaker 4: invest in, saying your money is to bring it to me. Yeah,
- 44:32Speaker 4: We're gonna triple your money now, man. But you know
- 44:34Speaker 4: what I'm saying, just transitioning to the other side, going
- 44:37Speaker 4: on two years being out a new tours the end hooping,
- 44:41Speaker 4: probably my last two three.
- 44:43Speaker 2: I'm like it's.
- 44:44Speaker 4: Winding down, you know what I'm saying.
- 44:46Speaker 2: What I'm gonna do next? Like i' went for free agency.
- 44:49Speaker 4: Uh. Before I went to New Orleans, I had probably
- 44:52Speaker 4: like half the league called me, had probably like fourteen
- 44:54Speaker 4: teams called me.
- 44:56Speaker 2: Man.
- 44:56Speaker 4: After I left New Orleans, I had probably like three
- 44:59Speaker 4: teams called then I went to Phoenix. After I left
- 45:03Speaker 4: Phoenix about one to two tail Okay, yeah, wear down.
- 45:07Speaker 4: I started seeing that trend man, So like, let me
- 45:09Speaker 4: make sure I'm saying. I get my saying, get all
- 45:13Speaker 4: my cheese, you know what I'm saying, say my future.
- 45:15Speaker 4: So I started getting into some First I started doing
- 45:17Speaker 4: real estate just you know what I'm saying, regular single
- 45:20Speaker 4: flipping homes and stuff like that. Then I got to
- 45:22Speaker 4: some commercial real estate. One of my coolest projects. I
- 45:27Speaker 4: got to do aviation development in Dallas. That's pretty cool,
- 45:32Speaker 4: you know. So, you know, just transition into that business
- 45:34Speaker 4: side that's been I've been pretty cool, you know, and
- 45:38Speaker 4: you know, hey, man, it's it's a blessing. Gotta keep
- 45:41Speaker 4: it going, you know what I'm saying. But also I
- 45:43Speaker 4: might try to do something basketball. I want to try
- 45:45Speaker 4: to you know, getting maybe to some front office type
- 45:48Speaker 4: stuff exact. You know what I'm saying, Get my suit
- 45:51Speaker 4: and tied. Now, I don't need a man.
- 45:59Speaker 2: Regular, don't come out, don't dress like I did. I
- 46:04Speaker 2: pulled up like this to work. I was out of pocket.
- 46:08Speaker 4: Up.
- 46:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, you got some of this story.
- 46:10Speaker 4: We got to what happened. I was working for the Hawks. Man,
- 46:13Speaker 4: I was a scout. My first meeting, you have a
- 46:16Speaker 4: six hour day. I pulled up in the outfit like this,
- 46:19Speaker 4: everybody else came with polos.
- 46:22Speaker 2: So I was still in hoop mode, you.
- 46:26Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
- 46:26Speaker 2: I'm still thinking I'm the guy like about to walk in.
- 46:29Speaker 4: We got to chill to do these meetings, and I'm
- 46:31Speaker 4: forgetting that I'm on the other side of the basketball.
- 46:33Speaker 4: Now I'm in the front office. I don't get on
- 46:35Speaker 4: the court. So I was all out of pocket. I
- 46:37Speaker 4: felt so out of place. I'm looking at everybody. I'm
- 46:40Speaker 4: trying to get up and get water and like so
- 46:42Speaker 4: they want like sit in the back so they won't
- 46:44Speaker 4: notice me. But nah, I was out of pocket. But
- 46:46Speaker 4: I knew that wasn't I knew it was for me.
- 46:49Speaker 1: That's what that was your first I mean out saw
- 46:51Speaker 1: the Mars dress, first time geting drunk. Yeah, that was
- 46:53Speaker 1: my first job was working at the grocery store bro.
- 46:56Speaker 1: So I ain't really.
- 46:58Speaker 4: Fastball a job to me. It was like yeah, saying
- 47:00Speaker 4: we would have did for free, right right. But working
- 47:02Speaker 4: in the front office, I was like, dang right, I
- 47:05Speaker 4: tell you all the time, I ain't make it playing better.
- 47:07Speaker 4: I'll be hoping at the Boys and Girls Club anyway.
- 47:09Speaker 5: Yeah, just just for fun.
- 47:11Speaker 4: But yeah, man, I said, you know, I just try
- 47:14Speaker 4: to you know what I'm saying. Obviously I love basketball
- 47:15Speaker 4: and always mentoring young guys and guys is in college
- 47:19Speaker 4: guys that you know what I'm saying, that in the
- 47:22Speaker 4: league still, so I'm like and I'm watching all the games,
- 47:24Speaker 4: so like, man, why not try to know what I'm saying,
- 47:26Speaker 4: stick around the game and you know, being a player
- 47:28Speaker 4: and going through every step. Like I was a starter
- 47:32Speaker 4: for four five years, came off the bench for three
- 47:36Speaker 4: four years. They had two years where I was kind
- 47:39Speaker 4: of playing, really not playing. So what I'm saying, I
- 47:43Speaker 4: didn't got the taste of everything in the league. So
- 47:46Speaker 4: why not try to give back being a player. They
- 47:48Speaker 4: need more more players, more guys like us that I
- 47:52Speaker 4: understand what's going on and we can't know what I'm saying,
- 47:53Speaker 4: relate to the younger guys now because guys coming in
- 47:56Speaker 4: at nineteen like my first year, like yeah he was
- 47:58Speaker 4: on the old team too, but my first year on
- 48:01Speaker 4: the team maybe had like eight dudes is like thirty
- 48:03Speaker 4: three years older.
- 48:04Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 48:05Speaker 4: I'm in Boston, so now the lead like younger, and
- 48:08Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, just try to bridge that gap.
- 48:10Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying front the front office, and
- 48:12Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, some of the players, I
- 48:13Speaker 4: feel like that's something that they need a little bit
- 48:15Speaker 4: more of and you know, help help give a little guidance.
- 48:18Speaker 4: So I feel like what I'm saying somebody like maybe
- 48:21Speaker 4: a good candidate. So if y'all see this, listen, look,
- 48:25Speaker 4: I'm looking for a job.
- 48:28Speaker 1: Up next time we do an episode, but we're gonna
- 48:31Speaker 1: be axecutive office, your position.
- 48:34Speaker 2: We're gonna pull up into a podcast y'all.
- 48:36Speaker 4: That that'll be that'll be lit. Yeah, in the jail,
- 48:44Speaker 4: that would that would be cool.
- 48:46Speaker 2: Man. I hope I hope that happened for you though
- 48:48Speaker 2: for sure.
- 48:48Speaker 1: Man, Like I was saying, man, appreciate you slotting be
- 48:51Speaker 1: here and telling people that could buy some March
- 48:52Speaker 3: Shop Club five twenty dot com Baby were out, Yes, sir,
- 48:56Speaker 3: we're out.