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226: Raccoons Sound Off! Robyn's Out Of Control Spending Problem · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Okay. Her name is Amanda, Amanda, Amanda, Amanda.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, ladies, this is Amanda coming to you from
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  Speaker 3: the Dumfta of Ohio. I love your podcast and I
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  Speaker 3: And I feel like you guys have a great balance
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  Speaker 3: of calling out these fools while also giving them some
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  Speaker 3: grace whether they deserve it or not, and I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to say that this last episode, episode twenty,
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  Speaker 3: they were all really getting to me. I think after
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  Speaker 3: watching this whole season and seeing how they have just
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  Speaker 3: been ignoring everything that happened with Garrison and not even
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  Speaker 3: addressing it, has just really gotten to me. It was
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  Speaker 3: so clear to me in this episode that Cody was
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  Speaker 3: very emotional for reasons other than the baptism and Janelle
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  Speaker 3: was running off to North Carolina when you know clearly
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  Speaker 3: Garrison had already passed when she was leaving. She's leaving
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  Speaker 3: and several of her kids are still there, and she's
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  Speaker 3: just going to live with Maddie and pursue her dreams.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't really feel like it's great that she
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  Speaker 3: was leaving without telling Cody. I don't think she owes
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  Speaker 3: him anything. I really don't understand why Janelle did not
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  Speaker 3: communicate with Cody about her leaving, unless she was afraid
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  Speaker 3: for some reason. I just feel like it's so selfish
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  Speaker 3: and irresponsible and honestly kind of childish for her to
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  Speaker 3: not communicate with the father of her children, even though
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  Speaker 3: many of them are adult children who all live near
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  Speaker 3: him now she lives across the country. If anything were
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  Speaker 3: to happen, especially with Savannah, who is, you know, technically
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  Speaker 3: an adult but still very young and probably just living
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  Speaker 3: on her own or with one of her siblings, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to have that grade of a distance from your kids
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  Speaker 3: and for their dad to not even know that you've
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  Speaker 3: moved just seems very odd to me. And I know
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  Speaker 3: she's probably thinking that Christine can kind of help in
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  Speaker 3: her stead, but she's the parent and Cody's the parent,
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  Speaker 3: and they need to parent and be there for their children.
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  Speaker 3: And I just think, I know that it's we're not
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  Speaker 3: owed anything about Garrison's passing, but it's just so odd
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  Speaker 3: to watch all of these things happening in the wake
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  Speaker 3: of his passing and for it to not be addressed
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  Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form. It pisses me off.
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  Speaker 1: Is that how it is?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, one minor I think correction would be that Janelle
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  Speaker 1: actually left for North Carolina in January of twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four before Garrison passed, and even in the last episode
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  Speaker 1: she says she's leaving behind Gabe and Garrison and Savannah,
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  Speaker 1: so she names Garrison specifically. So at that time, Garrison
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  Speaker 1: was still alive. But Amanda, you're making an interesting point
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  Speaker 1: about Savannah, because Savannah would have just turned eighteen, maybe
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  Speaker 1: almost nineteen years old. She's still a young lady. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure she's going to school in the area. I'm wondering
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  Speaker 1: if she moved in with Garrison and Gabe or like
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  Speaker 1: one of her brothers in the area. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, as a mom, I would have a
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  Speaker 1: very hard time leaving my child at that age, even
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  Speaker 1: though they're an adult. It would be one thing if
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  Speaker 1: she left me, which obviously she did. She moved out,
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  Speaker 1: and she you know, started her life with you. That's excellent,
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  Speaker 1: that's the way that it should be. But I would
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  Speaker 1: not have left her in Texas and moved to fucking Chicago.
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  Speaker 1: Go start a new life with my kid over here
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  Speaker 1: after I moved her here, right, and Gabe too, because
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  Speaker 1: even though Gabe is twenty two, twenty three, like Gabe
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to come to flag Staff exactly, he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to stay in Vegas and finish his senior year of
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  Speaker 1: high school. You forced him to move to flag Staff,
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  Speaker 1: much to his mental health detriment. Yeah, and now you're
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  Speaker 1: just gonna leave him here even though he's an adult technically. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really respect that either.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I guess, I come from more of
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  Speaker 2: a personal thing with that total. I kind of agree
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  Speaker 2: with Amanda on this because I was a child where
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  Speaker 2: my family totally left me here and I'm twenty eight.
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  Speaker 2: My family left me when I was twenty six, but
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  Speaker 2: like they moved me out to Texas, I moved out.
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  Speaker 2: I did my own thing, came back to Texas and
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  Speaker 2: then my family was like peace, and so now I'm
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  Speaker 2: by myself here, So you know, there's like a little
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  Speaker 2: feeling of like, man, I guess my family wants to
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  Speaker 2: do their own thing, is leaving me out here. But like,
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, all of her kids are adults,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe they're all doing their own thing.
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  Speaker 1: No, but I think you're speaking to kind of what
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about. Like, even though you were twenty six
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  Speaker 1: years old when your parents left the place that they
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  Speaker 1: forced you to come to, Yeah, you're twenty six, you
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  Speaker 1: still feel abandoned to some degree. And so imagine Savannah
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  Speaker 1: so much more younger, like just starting her college career,
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  Speaker 1: and that's very traumatic for kids to have to go through.
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  Speaker 1: And like you're her mom and you're you're leaving, And
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be overly judgmental, but that does
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  Speaker 1: seem like a lot. Now. I love Amanda's point about
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  Speaker 1: Cody expressing emotions during the baptism fake scripted scene, like
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  Speaker 1: and us wondering like why where's that coming from? Like
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  Speaker 1: why are you inserting your emotional process into this scene?
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  Speaker 1: And I do think it's because just two weeks previous
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  Speaker 1: to that, Garrison passed YEP. And this is the emotion
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing from Cody, And this is really I think
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  Speaker 1: all we're going to get until the tell All's.
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  Speaker 2: I know exactly. And I wonder if they're even going
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  Speaker 2: to ask about Garrison at the time. Oh they better,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, But if we're getting a whole season
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  Speaker 2: where all we got was a disclaimer on episode one
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  Speaker 2: and that's it, and we have Garrison literally edited out
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  Speaker 2: of all of the footage, like I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna get much out of them, And like we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about this in our recaps, Like I understand to
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  Speaker 2: an extent of like not wanting to get into all
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  Speaker 2: of the details about Garrison's passing because it was so traumatic,
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  Speaker 2: and I understand like if the family was in a weird,
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  Speaker 2: turbulent time where everyone was fighting with each other and
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  Speaker 2: then this happens, Like I get not wanting to air
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  Speaker 2: out all of that dirty laundry because it is really
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  Speaker 2: fresh and really awful, but at the same time, to
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  Speaker 2: not even mention him and to act like he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: even really exist, And we're not gonna talk about why
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  Speaker 2: Cody's crying in this scene. We're not gonna talk about
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  Speaker 2: like Janelle's feelings and all this either, like cause I
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  Speaker 2: think some of these talking heads with Janelle are filmed
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  Speaker 2: after his passing and we don't see any emotion from
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  Speaker 2: her now. And I'm not sure trying to criticize Janelle
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  Speaker 2: on that at all, because that's all editing and shit
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  Speaker 2: like that. But it's like, I want to see you
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  Speaker 2: guys be human and I want you guys to talk
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  Speaker 2: about this thing that happened, but we're just gonna act
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  Speaker 2: like it didn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, back like when we went to school.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't happen when I was going to school. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: when you went to school high school, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: one of the kids in your school passed away or
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: there was some sort of a tragic accident and then
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  Speaker 1: you'd have like a big meeting in the gymnasium and
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: they'd bring in therapists and or if you need a therapist,
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: all you have to do is let us know, and
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: we're here for you. It's like, take that idea and
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: extrapolate that out to like the millions of people who
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: watch this show and who many of whom have dealt
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: with something like unliving yourself. And I'm sorry, I have
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: to say it that way, but we are censored if
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: we say the different word. But like many of us,
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: including us, have dealt with a family member who have
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  Speaker 1: unlived themselves, we have trauma. That trauma comes back up
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  Speaker 1: when we are watching a show where this is happening.
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  Speaker 1: And even if you don't have previous trauma, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of us out there that were traumatized
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  Speaker 1: by what happened because a lot of you grew up
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  Speaker 1: with Garrison watching the show. A lot of you are
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: mamas watching these little kids on this show, and we
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: watched every single season. And now you're asking this fan
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  Speaker 1: base who has an emotional connection, whether you like it
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  Speaker 1: or not, Dalec we have an emotional connection and now
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  Speaker 1: we're having traumatic responses throughout the audience. You just want
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  Speaker 1: to like pretend Garrison didn't exist. And again, as Amanda says,
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  Speaker 1: I know we're not owed anything, But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: aren't we Aren't we the ones that keep watching? Aren't
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: we the ones that are funding this entire enterprise? Aren't
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: we the ones that have prayed for you, have followed you,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: who have supported you and all of your business endeavors.
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  Speaker 1: Hasn't that been us? And this is what we get, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's unfair to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yet we get a produced baptismal storyline with Aurora, like
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  Speaker 2: we care and Cody crying over a baptism, but we
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  Speaker 2: know it's or we think it's because of Garrison, and
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  Speaker 2: it's like, why can't we elaborate on that. If Suki
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  Speaker 2: doesn't ask.
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  Speaker 1: She has question like she would have to do, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: That would be crazy to me. That would make me
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: not want to watch the show anymore, honestly, Like, if
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: we get through this whole fucking season which is so long.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the never ending season.
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  Speaker 2: No, holy shit, We're on a hiatus. I have a
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  Speaker 2: mid season hiatus right now. Like, if we get through
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  Speaker 2: this whole fucking season and we don't mention him at all,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna want to watch because like,
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  Speaker 2: what the fuck are we doing? Are we just gonna
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  Speaker 2: have more produced storylines in season twenty one and we
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  Speaker 2: just pretend like Garrison never existed? That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so unfair and unkind to Garrison's memory. Like
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  Speaker 1: this young man struggled with what happened with his family,
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  Speaker 1: struggled with the loss of his father, and there are
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  Speaker 1: some inherent, intrinsic place problems with the structure of this family,
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  Speaker 1: how it is unfair and unequal it impacts the children.
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  Speaker 1: I think Garrison is an example of this, and we're
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  Speaker 1: just not going to explore that as a television show
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  Speaker 1: at all. That's yeah, It's just I feel like there
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  Speaker 1: is not a debt that tlcows, but like there's just
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  Speaker 1: a responsibility that they have to like talk about the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing, not just the part that you want to
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  Speaker 1: curate and pretend is happening. Oh, we're going to North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to the storage facilities somewhere in Arizona. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. But like these bigger, huge issues, that's
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  Speaker 1: what we should be focusing on. It drives me crazy,
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  Speaker 1: and I totally agree.
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  Speaker 2: And what do you think about our last point about
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  Speaker 2: Janelle moving to North Carolina and not telling Cody.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Like if it were a functioning and
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  Speaker 1: healthy co parenting relationship with someone who is not unconscious
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  Speaker 1: and a total massive asshole, then of course we'd have conversations.
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  Speaker 1: We would talk about it. Does she owe it to him?
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  Speaker 1: She does not. If she had talked to him about it,
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  Speaker 1: would that have been reasonable, yes, But the fact she
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  Speaker 1: didn't is that also reasonable? Yes? I feel like she
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  Speaker 1: is just cutting the as we call him Hawaii the
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  Speaker 1: AKA chord. She's like, I'm cutting these chords. You don't
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  Speaker 1: have any access to me whatsoever. We're not having that
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  Speaker 1: final conversation. You don't need closure from me. I already
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  Speaker 1: said no, Noah is a full sentence and answer, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm out. So I respect it personally me too. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think she owes that man he stole from her,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: robbed them all blind. He has said the worst, most
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  Speaker 1: vile shit about this woman to her face and on
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  Speaker 1: camera like yeah, no.
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  Speaker 2: Well and he's a narcissist. So like she's kind of
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: going no contact and being like, yeah, you don't fucking
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  Speaker 2: need to know anything about my life, so peace out.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like that's fair and valid. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I would understand the point of telling him if the
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  Speaker 2: kids were younger, but since they are all adult, like
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  Speaker 2: they can function on their own, does Cody really need
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  Speaker 2: to know? And is Cody really involved in any of
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  Speaker 2: Janelle's kids lives? Like?
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  Speaker 1: No, Remember after the Christmas fight with Janelle and Cody,
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  Speaker 1: it was months upon months that he even reached out
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  Speaker 1: and or inquired about Savannah was at the time still
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  Speaker 1: a minor. He does not care. Not so if you
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  Speaker 1: don't care, Plus you're a narcissist. I don't need to
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  Speaker 1: engage with that. That's toxic, it's unhealthy, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, but like at the same time, like should
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  Speaker 2: have Janelle left all of her kids in Vegas while
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  Speaker 2: she goes to or sorry flags a.
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  Speaker 1: No no, And that's different to me, Like she has
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  Speaker 1: a different relationship evond with her children. Yeah, and as
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  Speaker 1: a mother, that hits different for me exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So good points, Amanda, Thank you for your call.
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  Speaker 2: Next one we have is Jill.
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  Speaker 4: Jill, Hello, Beatrice and Dehlia. First, let me tell you
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  Speaker 4: how much I love and appreciate everything you guys do.
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  Speaker 5: You are rock stars.
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  Speaker 4: This is Jill, a squirrel calling from a dumps in
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  Speaker 4: Always Hot Mesa, Arizona. Just want to give you a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of my knowledge about the non denominational Christian Church.
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  Speaker 4: I am guessing that is the church that Aurora and
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Brionna are attending. Some form of non denominational Christianity. In
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  Speaker 4: that church, they do not require the baptizer to be
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  Speaker 4: any sort of a priest or ordained in any way.
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  Speaker 4: If you have been baptized by immersion, you are then.
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  Speaker 6: Able to baptize somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: So if your mom, your dad, your sister, your brother,
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  Speaker 4: your best friend, the person who is your mentor or
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  Speaker 4: your pastor any of those are able to baptize you
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  Speaker 4: as long as they have already previously been baptized by immersion.
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  Speaker 4: And we do know that Cody, being a member of
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  Speaker 4: the LDS Church, was baptized by immersion, which would then
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  Speaker 4: make him eligible to baptize anybody else in this particular church.
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  Speaker 4: This is just my guess that I give you a
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  Speaker 4: little little tibot of what I knew. Keep doing what
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  Speaker 4: you're doing. I appreciate you ladies so much, and I'll
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  Speaker 4: be listening. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Jill.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some information interesting. I mean, I still don't get
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  Speaker 2: why Cody's allowed to baptize when he's a literal demon.
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  Speaker 1: But and not in the same religion.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's weird, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay. What if I'm fully immersed in the Church
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  Speaker 1: of Satan, right, does that mean I can come into
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  Speaker 1: your charismatic Christian church or your assemblies of God church
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  Speaker 1: and baptize a person, like it just feels a little
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: weird to me. I actually come from non denominational Christianity,
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  Speaker 1: Charismatic Christianity, Calvary chapels, First Assemblies of God, Like I've
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  Speaker 1: been part of everything goody, you name it, I've been
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a part of it. Fancy on the Christian side of things.
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  Speaker 1: So when I was baptized, I was actually baptized by
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: somebody who was not a pastor at the time, but
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: he actually baptized. Yeah, so I do understand, like how
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: they do things and when you take get back to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the scripture and Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and like John the Baptist wasn't a reverend per se.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Like I get the historical order of that. But my
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: problem is with the fact that Cody would waltz into
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: a I think First Assembly of God church. I think
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: that's where she's going. Is that non denominational, it's Pentecostal.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's a denomination. And I could be wrong
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: about the church. I could be getting that totally wrong.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think I am, but like, it's just odd
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: to me that as an LDS Mormon or somebody questioning
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: his faith and whether he even believes would be able
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to go into a church like that and participate. I mean,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: if we zoom out and we say well. But also,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: he's her father, he loves her, he wants to give
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: his blessing and her spiritual prier. I could see how
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: he might be invited into the process. But it's still
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: a little strange to me.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: It's weird. I mean I grew up really Christian, but
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: we had like a really poor church. Like I don't
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: even know what our denomination was because we were assembling
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: in the back of a high school. I heard that poor. Yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: And so we had baptisms and stuff. I never got
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: baptized because I was afraid of going under the water.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Oh sweet baby, really you don't want the water.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: To your nose. I was so afraid of it because
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: my cousin tried to drown me when I was four. Okay,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: so I didn't want to.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: But my pastor always did the baptisms, like he was
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the only one that was allowed to. So like, even
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: when he was not at the church and somebody wanted
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: to get baptized, you would be called and he would
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: be So I don't know, but I just think, like Cody,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: it's so ichy for him to baptize Aurora, And like
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: if Aurora is genuinely serious about this whole, like non denominational, Pentecostal,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: whatever Christian journey she's on, Like, why would you want
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: somebody as evil as Cody to baptize you? I feel
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: like that would taint.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Your well because she doesn't see him that way. She
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: sees him as a father, she sees him as who
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: subsidizes her entire life, and she's bought the kool aid,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: she's drunk the kool aid of her mother. And so
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: she's a traumatized individual who is disoriented and confused about
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: who this man is embarrassing. It is ikey, though, that's
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the right word. Yeah, so I think he probably has
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a basis to be there, but like I think it's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: ikey that he is there.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, thanks Jill for your insight on them.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: Thank you, jo.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Next one we have is from Julianne Julienne.
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: Hey, ladies, it is Jillian here, calling from the suburban
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: dumpsters of Chicago. I am calling because I'm infuriated. I'm
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: fed up with Cody and Robin and how they are
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: abusing Brianna and Aura. It is sickening. These are two
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: narcissistic parents who have no true love for these girls.
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: They know how to use these girls, They know how
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: to manipulate these girls, and they think, oh, well, because
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: we provide food and shelter, we're entitled to use and
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: abuse them as we see fit. The crying is astonishing,
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: And the only reason when I say that is because
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: I myself can relate. You have a very low threshold
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: for dealing with real life when you've got narcissistic parents
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: and all they're doing is using these girls, and the infantilization,
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: the oh making. The fact that these girls feel the
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: need to beg for acceptance and approval at this point
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: in their lives is absolutely sickening. Robin and Cody should
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: be ashamed of themselves, and those girls need to be rescued,
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: and so do the little ones, the tenders as they
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: call them. Thanks so much, Hope you guys are well.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Take care.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you? Is it Julienne? Yeah, like vegetables, Julienne, vegetables,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I love it. What do you think
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do think that these kids are being
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: manipulated and probably abused emotionally, but I don't think they
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: realized they are. I don't think I think they're under
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the kool aid, like you said, they're totally under the spell.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: They don't realize what they're experiencing is toxic. They would
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: need fucking therapy to realize that kind of stuff. And
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna get therapy because they got
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: two narcissistic parents that also need therapy but don't go
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to therapy, And they're just gonna be stuck in this
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: household until they wake up and realize, like, oh fuck,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: my parents are literal demons who have robbed all of
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: these women of all this money, and they have completely
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: destroyed our entire family and you know, fucked our lives over.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, but I take issue with Julian saying that Robin
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and Cody don't love these kids.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: You can be a very broken person, you can lack
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of morality and a lot of integrity, but
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I think even narcissists can love their children.
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It might be a fucked up way to love somebody,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: a warped way, a conscious or an unconscious way to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: express love to somebody, But I mean, I wouldn't go
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: so far as to say that. I feel like Robin
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: loves her kids. Yeah. I think Robin is doing a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: lot of what she's doing to set her kids up.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I think she wants all of those plots on Coyote Pass,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: one for each of her children. Buddy, I think she
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: genuinely loves them. Does Cody love the kids to the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: degree that he can love anything other than himself? I
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: wonder whether Aurora and Brionna and Dan actually get to
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: watch the show. Yeah, it feels to me like they
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: don't watch the show in the house. Remember during the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: lookbacks when they were filming from the McMansion, how pissed
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: off Robin looked like she had to be dragged into
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the room and asked questions, and she did not seem
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: happy to be there. It feels to me like those
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: kids have probably never been able to see the show
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and gain an outside perspective of what's actually happened on.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: So they don't hear what Maddie has to say, they
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: don't hear what Janelle has to say. But if they did,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I wonder how they'd feel. And I actually wonder whether
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Dayton has had an opportunity to see something, because again,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: for some reason, he's not filming at least in twenty
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: twenty four, he's not filming with them anymore. I'm just
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: wondering if he was able to see the show and
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: get a different opinion.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I wonder that too, And actually that brings up a
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: memory of mine that I saw a Reddit post not
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: too long ago of I think Brianna's Pinterest page, and
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: she was pinning some kind of passive aggressive things that
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: were about like fucked up parents and sucked up families
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and people were insinuating that it
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: was about Robin and Cody, and like maybe she was
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: finally waking up to some of their bullshit. But that
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: would make sense if they are just kept from the show,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: And maybe Robin and Cody see that as a way
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: of protecting their kids and protecting them from the publicity
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: and the negativity, because what they have is fine right now,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: But it's because the kids only know Cody and Robin's perspective.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: They don't know anybody else's, they don't get to see
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: anyone else's voices. They just know what Cody and Robin
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: tell them is going on. I do think you're right, though,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Robin does love her kids, but I do think she's
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: really emotionally manipulative. Yes, and so she does, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: love them in the way that she wants them to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: act like, so she she molds them into what she
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: wants them to be.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, like Aurora looks exactly like Robin. It's like crazy,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and you know, some of that can be normal, but
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: some of that is like totally manipulation. So I don't know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: there's some weird shit going on in that house with
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: those vampire kids.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Well, you know they say she's a witch, right, Yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: she practices the witch ground, right, She's no, I'm not
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: saying that she does, but maybe she's casting spells. Who
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: maybe those children are under a spell. They are sleeping
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in coffins in the basement with the haunted dolls and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the kids in village sleep.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Or that.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I apologize, and it's true. I mean, it's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Julianne for you very much.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Next one we have is from Just Just Just.
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: Hi, Beatrice and Dhlia. This is Jessica calling in from
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: a dumpster in cold Southgate, Michigan. I am currently rewatching
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: Sister Wives from season one, episode one and I just
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: don't understand how these dalists celebrities have managed to fail
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: at being marketable, at being somebody with a large social
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: media presence, Like they just have failed drastically, Like where
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: is their PR team? So what I want to know
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: is I was looking back at the episode where Cody
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: says they're living in Las Vegas and they don't have
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: anybody reaching out to them saying they want to do
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: Sunday service at their house in Las Vegas. It's like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: how hard is it to create a social media profile
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: and then invite people? Like they are such victims, they're
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: not self starters, like go out and get it. Why
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: don't they have tons of Instagram sponsorships, TikTok sponsorships. Why
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: aren't they capitalizing on their branding and marketing like with
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: Sister Wives Closet, going back and watching those stupid ass episodes,
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: like there was so much potential for shit to be good,
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: and they just fail at every fucking thing, and I
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: don't know how. So I guess my question is how
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: are they this terrible? What advice would you have given
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: them if you were a public relations team and during
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: the time when they were a launching my Sister wife's closet,
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: and or when being sponsored or endorsed as a you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: dalast celebrity became a thing. Thanks, have a great day, girls, listen.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just absolutely no business documen,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: no vision, like the people perish for a lack of vision.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: That's the bible, hoodie. You don't have a vision, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you don't have that mapped out for yourself, Like how
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you ever gonna get where you want to go? I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: just felt like they were drinking from a fire hose,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: like all this shit was coming their way. They had
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: TLC all of a sudden, we're moving to Vegas, Now
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: we get to move to flag Staff. They're just doing
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: They're just going with the flow. They're not intentional people.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: They do not have a vision, nor do they know
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: how to create a vision. Even though again Robin is
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a witch. Yeah, and so she should know how to
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: conjure her own future. But she doesn't.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I will correct you. Robin does have a vision.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: She has a vision from my sister wive's closet. But
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: it's gonna bring the family together.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Is that a vision or is that a delusion? I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: feel like that's a delusion.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: A delusion is a type of vision.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: It is it is so.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, she does have a vision, but it's how
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: to execute it. I think they're all lazy, like you
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: said earlier in our recap earlier this week, how Robin
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: just expected to be the creative talent and everybody else
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: does all the work for her. But it's like, even then,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: my Sister Wives closet was a failure from the start.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna buy this ugly fucking jewelry that is all
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: about your brand, Like when all of the designs are
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: absolute dog shit, like you have ball sack necklaces and
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: then you have weird phoenixes that don't look like phoenixes.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: They just look like squished up pennies on a fucking necklace.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: It's like crazy that they thought that this would ever
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: work out. And so to Jess's point, like, what would
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: my advice be, I don't know, Cody, shut the fuck up, Robin,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: stop with your dumb ideas and sell T shirts like that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: It's as simple as that shirts.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Simplify. That would be what my message would be. Simplify. Also, therapy,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: h simplify and get some therapy. I don't know, Actually
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you can't therapize an arc, so simplify. But you know
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: they are poor people who got money fast, yeap. So
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: what is the saying? Money talks, wealth whispers honey. So
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: they get the money and now they're out here getting
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: labels and Robin, I mean people are clocking her jackets,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: her shoes, and how much she's paying for all of
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: her American girl dolls Cody's jacket like they're spending money.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: That's what they think is important. They're very much invested
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: in the presentation of success and money without really knowing
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the inner workings of how to sustain and maintain that.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Like if you're a wealthy person, you know, oh, I'm
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: gonna have to live within my fucking means. I'm gonna
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: have to save, I'm gonna have to budget. Like wealthy
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: people are often very frugal. Cody's not frugal. Robin's not
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: frugal because they're poor asked people who happen to be
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: in a season of money. But when the money run
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that girl, when that fire hose turns off, I just
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: want to be a fly on the wall, raccoon and
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the dumpster on the top, just perch Hoddy watching with
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: my monicle like, what.
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: Do you people go do now?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: What are you going to do now?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I wonder if Cody and Robin now
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: like fight a lot over money, because how can they
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: afford the shit that they have right now? They got
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: to be selling some of those investments that ugly ass
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: art that they bought.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: They're not selling anything. They don't have to because TLC
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: is giving them thirty episodes. So they're rolling in the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: door right now. But again, this is a season of money.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: They don't spend their money wisely. They don't have great
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: business ideas. You've got Robin out here buying doll clothes
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to the tune of sixty thousand dollars, which feels like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: an echo of Victoria's secret in the amount of seventeen
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: thousand and thirty thousand whatever. It was like, she's got
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: a problem, and so she's in a season of money.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: But when that money stops, and it will, it will,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: it's gonna.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: We'll just see what happens.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, bankruptcy, simplify.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: If my advice would be simplified, get out of debt.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And I feel like they're trying to rehab their I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: would say, try to rehab your image. I feel like
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: they're trying to do that, but nothing is gonna work. No,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: nothing at this point is gonna work. Not after the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: passing of Garrison, not after your wives have left you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Nope, everybody fucking hates Coding and Robin, so there's nothing and.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Rightly so, oh of course valid.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: They are hateable. So thank you Jess for your call.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Next have us from is from Beth.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Beth.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, hello, my beautiful raccoons. This is Beth and I'm
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: coming to you from a dumpster in Pittsburgh. And I
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: am leaving this because I'm absolutely and completely outraged by
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: a video I saw from miss Katie Joy without a
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: crystal ball, don't come for me, but she seems to
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: have comeced with receipts on this one that Robin Brown
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: has spent sixty one thousand dollars on baby clothes and
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: not for a real baby, no, for a baby doll.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, baby doll clothes. So if this is true,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: can you imagine how this must feel to the wives
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: knowing this, because I'm sure they know. And I'm starting
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: to think that the reason that the wives absolutely loathe
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: Mary is because she brought this train wreck trash into
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: their home, who is now going absolutely crazy on Etsy
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Mine period baby clothes, like from Bridgerton, Like what, I
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: can't I think I'm done. I can't. I can't. I
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: can't do it anymore. I can't tuge that anymore.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: If this is true, where do we go from here? Raccoons?
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: Where do we go from here?
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Beth?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: It's true, It's true. You know it's true.
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: Sixty one thousand.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: That's higher than I thought. I thought it was just
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: sixty Oh my god, girl, it's just gonna keep.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: One thousand, ten thousand. I mean, even that amount would
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: be egregious. The fact that she's got fuck you money
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to that that's what she thinks she does have fuck
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you money to that extent, is wild. And yeah, I'm
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sick of it too. Because you hate to see
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: wicked people prosper You have to ask the question, why, God,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: why not me? I'm a good person out of here?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Come on, why don't prosper me? Why don't you prosper me?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: But this is where we're at. She's a deplorable person
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: who spends her money not on her children that she
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: says she loves. And I'm talking about Christine's children and
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Mary's children and Janelle's children, but she spends it on
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: doll clothes. I just can't, dog Lie, I just can't.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely insane. That's why I wonder. I'm like, how
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: much money did they have, like liquid from like TLC
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: and all of the other wives, Because if you're spending
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: sixty one grand on Etsy, like, you're blowing through all
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: of that cash unless you're taking out multiple credit cards.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: People do a bunch of like things where they move
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: money around, and so I'm just wondering when that money's
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: gonna dry out. I really can't wait for it. I
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: want to know how much money they're gonna end up
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: in debt, Like if she had thirty grand from Victoria's
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: secret debt on a credit card, like, imagine how much
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: debt she's got now. And you know, to your other point,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Beth about the other wives hating Mary, I can see that.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I can see why they would be annoyed with Mary.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, Mary's also annoying, right objectory is like totally
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: overbearing and super critical and stuff, and she probably would
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: have been a hard personality to get along with. But
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: all out aside, like the fact that she was the
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: one allegedly that brought Robin into the family and then
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: she literally ruined the family. Like, yeah, I'd be like
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: fuck you, Mary.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I guess I would.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I'd be like fuck you.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Now they're all kind of joining together because Mary finally
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: woke the fuck up and worthied up.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And allegedly right allegedly.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: But during the time I could see it, I could
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: see why they would hate her for that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: They could have said no, presumably. I mean, I would
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: imagine it would take four yeses in order to onboard Robin,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and if one or two of the other wives said no,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I would imagine that they wouldn't have done it. So
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like everybody agreed. I feel like everybody was complicit.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe Christine very begrudgingly. Yeah, But the spectacle of that
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: much money on doll clothes, just the reality that like
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: you and I are out here, you know, pinching our pennies,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: buying our nine dollars dozen of eggs and like trying
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to just stay alive in this ecotomy bit, and you've
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: got Robin out here just buying whatever the fuck she wants. Remember,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: during the pandemic, during their Halloween trick or treating. They
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: opened the door and there were boxes and boxes and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: boxes behind Robin and Cody, and it's all the shit.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: It's all the dolls, it's all the Dickensian village, it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: all of the gun shit. I mean, the amount of
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: things they have is obscene. Yep.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: And this is why the wives should all join up
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: in a lawsuit because I feel like, you have all
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: this footage and stuff.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna want to do it. No, they're not
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: gonna want to go through discovery. They're not going to
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: want to have their ass hanging out in front of everybody.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: So they're gonna settle with you, like, right, that is
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: what you should do.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I know I want them to do that. But will
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: they No, probably not. But anyway, thank you Beth for
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: your message.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Beth.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: You are awful. You are great. You're awesome.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: And the last one we have is from an anonymous raccoon.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, I get nervous, I know, but this
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: one's good. I get a trap.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: It's about VPR.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah that's right, Yeah, Okay, this is it? Yeah, okay, cool,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Hey raccoons.
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: It's anonymous from Toronto, Canada. Since sister Arrives has been
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: on hiatus. I have been digging through the archives of
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: your podcast to revisit old episodes. I listen while I work, cook,
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: and commute, and I have done since the inception of
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: your podcast. I've an og raccoon. I have always skipped
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: your vand brumpt Rules episodes because I was at Canadian
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: do not get Bravo unless I pay for a cable,
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: and I'm not about to do that. But Netflix just
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: dropped only season three and four, and I'm hooked. I
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: know you hate him D, but I know nothing about him,
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: and I can't help but be attracted to him, at
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: least until I know more. Who am I talking about? D?
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: Who am I talking about? It's Tom Sanderbal. I've always
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: been attracted to tall, dark, handsome, and weird looking men,
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: especially weird. His freckles are so cute and his hair
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: is lovely. Twelve. Just tell me why I should hate
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: myself for the honestly, tell me why I should ate
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: myself for this because I don't see it. Maybe when
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: I watch more episodes, I know that it turns out anyways,
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: turns out he's bad.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, he's very bad.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I thought she said, turns out he's by okay. Now,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I can see if you're watching season three or four,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: how you might find Tom's features symmetrical. I mean, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: he's not especially repugnant. I mean, I mean, if you're
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: like looking for a mate in the Neanderthal world, I mean,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I guess he will do. But like as the seasons
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: march on and he becomes more into himself, sniffing his
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: own fart, becoming eclectic in the way that he dresses, and.
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: Just like such a adult, such an adult, Yeah, I mean,
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: he becomes deeply unattractive by the time we get to
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: him cheating with Raquel oh Ariana, a veritable goddess.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: He's so ugly to me, He's so disgrossed to me.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even see how he's attractive in general.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Well, but you're a besbian, I know.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: But I can appreciate an attractive man, and I will
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: point it out. I'll be the first one.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Of Jackson's attractive. Oh fuck no, Tom Schwartz.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Schwartz is okay.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: He's kind of James Kennedy.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I think James is okay. He's not like, he's not
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: like super handsome. I can see how people would think
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: he's cool because he's a DJ and stuff.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: But like.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Sand of All, no, maybe, okay, maybe in like an
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: alternative rocker way, like, oh my.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: God, he's cool.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: He's seeing some stuff and he plays guitar, like, yeah,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: rules are into that, yes, and this is why she's anonymous.
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: Truly.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, but Tom sand of All is on this
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: current season of Traders, which is on what do you
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: mean what's that You got peacock?
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: No?
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I don't you do have peacock? Well, I mean I
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: haven't when we watch shows.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, you don't have peacock right now? Oh. The
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Traders is a show where they have to determine it's
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a panel of people. It's a whole cast of people.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: They're dealers, celebrities. It say, there's twenty of them, Okay,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: three of them are going to be deemed the Traders,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and they're on the down load. Nobody knows who the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: traders are, and the traders have to eliminate everybody in
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: order to win, and everybody else and these are called
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the faithfuls have to try and figure out who the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: traders are. Oh my god, what yeah, and then outum
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: and then eliminate them like a survivor, they get voted
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: off the island, and so it's like who gets to
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the very end? Is it a trader? Is it a faithful?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I watched the first season and it was very entertaining.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: This season has Tom Sandoval. He walks in and I
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: think it's Nikki Bella and Kroschelle are just like, don't
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: even look at me, cropping him out of photos, like
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: nobody wants to talk to him. But he's still there.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: He's been there quite a while. I don't think he's
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a trader. I think he's a faithful. And in this
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: last this last challenge, I think in this last week,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it was something about music and they were playing some
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: song backwards and I didn't watch, and so I could
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: be butchering this, but they were playing the clue was
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: a song played backwards, and so Tom was really into
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: it because I'm the only musician here listen to this
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: song backwards and I'm gonna sing it forwards and I'm
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: gonna get it. And it was just like the entire
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: time was he singing? Yeah, I mean yeah, he was singing,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and he was listening to it was just that's Tom,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: how can your basement flood? For a man like that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe it's me hoodie. I mean, I
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: don't know. I like me a big man, Yeah, I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: like me a sturdy, strong lumberjack text and man, he's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: got cowboy boots out of a shitty. He knows how
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: to pick up a car engine, and he knows how
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: to rock my boat. That's the kind of man I like.
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: I look at.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Tom Sandval and I think I would snap you like
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: a twig.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, first of all.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Because I would hate you. Of all, because I'm seventy
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: pounds heavier than that. Say, he's a small little wee man.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, he's Well, I can't say that it's
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: gonna be too mean.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's go uncensored, Just go uncensored.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And so back to the main pod now that you said,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you're horrid shit that we had to censor. By the way,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: if you want to hear all of our uncensored stuff,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: you've got to go to Patreon. That's where we dropped
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the uncensored videos. But yeah, Tom is just he just
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't do it for me. But like I don't want
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to yuck, you're yum sure. Anonymous from Toronto, if that's
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: yummy to you, then I want that for you.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure a lot of women think the same
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and men about Tom's handibal and think that he's very attractive. Sure,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: but yeah, Anonymous from Canada, he gets way worse and
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: he just becomes uglier and uglier like in his personality
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and everything, and he wears skinny jeans.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And it's just it's not cute and like leggings. Yeah, no,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I can't do it. I'm sorry.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: But you know, we've had people who think Cody Brown's
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: attractive too.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: That's true. So there's something. There's somebody for everybody. Yes,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: somebody for everybody exactly. My gosh, Well, thank you for
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the call, Anonymous.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: That was funny.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Again I can see why you're anonymous. Yeah, well this
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: was really fun. If you guys want to give us
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the call or contact us, all you have to do
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: is go to Speakpipe dot com, slash Reality TV cringe again.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: You got ninety seconds to go off. It's absolutely free
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and we'd love to hear from you. We cannot play
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: all of the messages. We do get so many, and
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: so Beatrice over here curates what we listen to. I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: have nothing to do with it. Don't be mad at
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: me for calling in it. Don't be mad either, be mad?
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else that we need to say to
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: these beautiful raccoons before we get up on out of here, Beatrice?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Well, if you love our podcast, please go to your
• 43:50
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• 43:53
  Speaker 2: It really helps us grow the dumpsters so we can
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: get fatner and more raccoons can join us, and we
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: really appreciate it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: We will be back next week to talk Sister Wives again.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: We are in season six. This is a crucial season.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: This is the season of my Sister Wives closet. This
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: is the season of discontent and we are here for it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: These are the seasons running up to the Catfish. We're
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: gonna get there too. So if you want to spend
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: time with us as we rewind into the Sister Wives,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: come back next week for that. Until then, please do
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: not forget that we have nothing but love for you
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: and pease and night. Bye guy.