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  Speaker 1: There is some more Buffalo Bills football to.
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  Speaker 4: Happen this week.
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  Speaker 1: The Bills are fully in the midst of their preseason
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  Speaker 1: schedule and at the end of this week on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: they will be in Pittsburgh to take on the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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  Speaker 1: And so the focus of tonight's episode will be kind of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, taking a step back now that we've had
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  Speaker 1: full opportunity to digest the underwhelming performance against the against
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  Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears in Week one and kind of taking
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  Speaker 1: a step back from that, analyzing the tape, putting all
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  Speaker 1: of that into perspective, and using it to kind of
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  Speaker 1: basically go forward in terms of who and what to
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  Speaker 1: watch for in Week two against the Pittsburgh Steelers, similar
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  Speaker 1: to what we did in Week one heading into that
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  Speaker 1: Bears game. But now we've got an actual, real, live,
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  Speaker 1: actual kind of football performance to evaluate off of to
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  Speaker 1: kind of set that table further, make a better foundation
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  Speaker 1: and have a better jumping off point going into Week
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  Speaker 1: two against the Steelers, And there are some significant pieces
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  Speaker 1: to talk about, and you know, as as Kendall and
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  Speaker 1: I talked on the postgame show after the Bears, the
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  Speaker 1: loss to the Bears. This it's not the end of
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  Speaker 1: the world, but it was a less than ideal performance.
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  Speaker 1: So that puts some players into perspectives, schematic and structural
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  Speaker 1: pieces in a perspective, and we're going to dive into
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  Speaker 1: those tonight in terms of, you know, the top things
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  Speaker 1: to watch for and look for, the who's and the
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  Speaker 1: what's going into this game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. And
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned Kendall, and I say we and that's because
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  Speaker 1: Kendall's joining me again for another episode. This is three
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  Speaker 1: episodes in a row, one of them of course being
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  Speaker 1: that postgame show, which is kind of special edition stuff
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  Speaker 1: once we get into the preseason. But Kendall, three episodes
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  Speaker 1: in a row for you.
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  Speaker 2: We're on a hot streak. This there's gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: be a heat check.
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  Speaker 1: I was literally gonna say. I was just about to say,
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  Speaker 1: we got to figure out a way to heat check.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how because it got apply in the scenario.
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  Speaker 2: No it doesn't, but that's that's definitely the term of choice.
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  Speaker 1: We need to like turn off our Wi Fi and
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  Speaker 1: see if it will still work. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that's like the heat check. We have to do something digitally,
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  Speaker 1: but you are back for your third consecutive episode, and Kendall,
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  Speaker 1: like we like I mentioned in the intro, and like
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  Speaker 1: we did last week, you know, going into that game
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  Speaker 1: against the Bears, top take, top things to watch for,
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  Speaker 1: who what, anything and everything could be high level, could be,
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  Speaker 1: could be detailed, but going into this game, like I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned in the intro, high level, now that we've had
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  Speaker 1: time to fully digest that Bears game, We've gone and
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  Speaker 1: we watched the All twenty two and really kind of
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  Speaker 1: let things sit in terms of that performance as a
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  Speaker 1: team and then also from an individual players standpoint, high level,
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  Speaker 1: where you at right now coming out of that Bears
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  Speaker 1: game going into this Week two game against the Steelers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the most general and broadest thing
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  Speaker 2: I could say going into Week two is just playing
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  Speaker 2: with a little bit more urgency. Like obviously there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of players on the roster that don't really have
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot to fight for, but there are a
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  Speaker 2: lot of position battles happening, and I just feel like
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  Speaker 2: from a from a mental perspective, like maybe discipline with
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  Speaker 2: all the penalties, and just an urgency perspective on wanting
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  Speaker 2: to play fast and decisive. It felt like we really
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  Speaker 2: only saw that from the star, which is frustrating considering
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  Speaker 2: those aren't the guys like fighting for the spots. So
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  Speaker 2: I think just generally seeing more urgency and some more
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  Speaker 2: discipline and headiness on the situations of Okay, it's third
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  Speaker 2: and twelve, like I can sink into coverage here and
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  Speaker 2: let this flat away because it might open something up
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  Speaker 2: at the sticks. Just just really playing more urgent and
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  Speaker 2: more heady with a game under your belt. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of the most general broad thing I can say.
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  Speaker 2: Moving and spinning this forward t week two against the Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's funny too.
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  Speaker 1: The penalties, Like I forgot about the penalties until like
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  Speaker 1: going back and watching the all twenty two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would.
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  Speaker 2: Just see so many plays.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just see like the flag get tossed,
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  Speaker 1: or i'd see like I'd be like, oh, like or
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  Speaker 1: I like, I forgot how the sequence of the game happens.
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  Speaker 1: So I'd be like, oh, that was a good game
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  Speaker 1: for the offense, Like how come this drive stalled out?
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  Speaker 4: And then I'd see the flag.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, because this this this completion got
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  Speaker 1: called back okay, never mind, like, yeah, yeah, just it
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  Speaker 1: very much felt like I think going back and watching
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  Speaker 1: on the All twenty two, it felt like it felt
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  Speaker 1: like a preseason game. Yeah, it felt like the opening game,
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  Speaker 1: like they were not. And again I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: mean to say this too, because there's some people who
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  Speaker 1: are I mean, we saw it in the postgame. So
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  Speaker 1: some people who are really super far out on the
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  Speaker 1: edge of like this season is done, this team is terrible,
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  Speaker 1: or the people who are anti Sean McDermott use this
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  Speaker 1: another example to be like see.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic jumping off point preseason week one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like McDermott can't get it done. Look how they
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  Speaker 1: showed up in a preseason week one YadA, YadA. But
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like, while I do
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  Speaker 1: think that is extremely extreme, they did not look good
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  Speaker 1: from an ecution standpoint, from a performance standpoint, just from
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  Speaker 1: a disciplant standpoint like you talked about, Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 1: even just settle for like a cleaner game, just more
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  Speaker 1: right mentals, more technique, less less rust. And again too
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  Speaker 1: like it's it is the first preseason game. I'm also interested,
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  Speaker 1: like we talked about in the postgame show, over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I am interested to see how these joint practices kind
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  Speaker 1: of that game does it help them kind of work
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  Speaker 1: out some of the kinks prior to the game. How
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  Speaker 1: much density is there Thursday and Friday and then how
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  Speaker 1: much of that transitions and kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of boils over spills over into the game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hoping this is kind of I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to say what It just flashed in my head and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to say this because
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  Speaker 1: it's a preseason, but like, how much of this is
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  Speaker 1: like a get right game for them?
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  Speaker 4: Which sounds ridiculous in the preseason, but also.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's kind of fair. I mean it, it left
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  Speaker 2: a bad taste in the mouth, like it just wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a good game. You want to spin forward positively. You
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  Speaker 2: don't want to stack negative performances like it Weirdly is
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  Speaker 2: it's a balanced back game. I can't argue with it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think and that's again, while there is the
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  Speaker 1: larger scale of it is the preseason, everybody take a break.
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  Speaker 1: This is more about depth evaluation roster filling than it
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  Speaker 1: is like getting everybody you know, getting the starters aren't
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  Speaker 1: sharpens iron and everybody's ready and rare to go. You
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  Speaker 1: do still want to see the starters click. You do
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  Speaker 1: want to see the deaf guys perform. And again, even
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have the most talented roster, you still
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  Speaker 1: want to see the fundamentals and the technique and the
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  Speaker 1: execution and the discipline that all the all the things
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  Speaker 1: that the Bills did not have in that opening game
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  Speaker 1: against Chicago. So yeah, I do think that's fair, just
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  Speaker 1: not to the point of jettison this team and the
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  Speaker 1: Sun and they're not accomplishing anything and they're not going
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  Speaker 1: anywhere anything else for you high level or do you
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  Speaker 1: want to jump right into it?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm good there. That's that's probably like my most
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  Speaker 2: broad thought on the Bills so far.
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  Speaker 4: SA same same, All right, let's jump into it.
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  Speaker 1: What and who to watch for Bills Versusteelers preseason week
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  Speaker 1: two as we do here on the show. Those of
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  Speaker 1: you joining us live playing at home, Questions, thoughts, comments, concerns,
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  Speaker 1: anything and everything you've got, throw it up into the chat.
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  Speaker 1: I will bring up as many things as humanly possible,
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  Speaker 1: as of course, as this tradition here super chats get
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  Speaker 1: pride already one because I respect the monetary donation too,
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  Speaker 1: because I see the color and it takes me away
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  Speaker 1: from everything else that I'm doing and puts my focus
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  Speaker 1: on it also too. If you think our who and what,
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  Speaker 1: Who's and what's to watch for our dumb feel free
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  Speaker 1: to jump into that and tell us that the chat.
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  Speaker 1: If you think they're great, feel free to jump into
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  Speaker 1: the chat and tell us that as well. I like
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  Speaker 1: this from Andrews, say and set the controls.
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  Speaker 4: For the heart of the Sun. Yeah, just send this
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  Speaker 4: team right there.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, Oh Pop's coming in
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  Speaker 1: and saying, who's going to be the backup right tackle.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of my points in that position specifically, but
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  Speaker 1: some offensive line pieces are specifically in there for me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun episode here, depending on where
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  Speaker 1: you are on this team, where your where your head's at,
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  Speaker 1: where your heart is at, all of those things.
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  Speaker 4: Kendall start us off.
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  Speaker 1: What and for those who don't know, we're each gonna
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  Speaker 1: go through our top three things that we'll be watching for.
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  Speaker 1: It could be a who, it could be a what.
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  Speaker 1: It could be large scale, it could be small scale,
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  Speaker 1: could be some tiny little detail. It could be something
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  Speaker 1: super broad. It could be anything and everything. Kendall doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know mine, I don't know his, and we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: going through. Oh nice ie. Roy Royce says, I see
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  Speaker 1: you change the tree. I changed the little things in
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  Speaker 1: the back. I still am rocking the red, white and.
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  Speaker 4: Blue Fourth of July style garland.
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  Speaker 1: But because the preseason and August doesn't really have like
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  Speaker 1: a holiday or calendar event that can go with a
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  Speaker 1: color theme for a tree, I just left it because
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  Speaker 1: it's Bill's colors, and I figure, hey, celebration because Bill's
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  Speaker 1: football is back. Preseason stuff. But I like where your
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  Speaker 1: heads at? Roy all Right, Kendall, you're up.
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  Speaker 4: What do you want to go?
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  Speaker 1: You could do anything and everything you want. Your most important,
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  Speaker 1: You're least important. They could all be equal. The floor
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  Speaker 1: is yours.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with offensive line because of how things
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  Speaker 2: went this week. I just feel like with the I
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  Speaker 2: feel like the tone was it tried to get set
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  Speaker 2: by Joe Brady and they wanted to run the football
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  Speaker 2: in the preseason and kind of prove to themselves like
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  Speaker 2: confidence booster wise that they can do that, and it
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  Speaker 2: just got off to such a bad start and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like it really never saw the light of day,
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  Speaker 2: there weren't a lot of big holes to be had
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  Speaker 2: in the game for any of the running backs. And
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  Speaker 2: I do kind of want to tie this to a
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  Speaker 2: conversation on the running backs because I want to get
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  Speaker 2: a better sense and feel for evaluating Ray Davis and
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  Speaker 2: Frank Or Junior. And I think this kind of muddies
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  Speaker 2: the waters a little bit, with you know, a few
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  Speaker 2: carries here and there being met like at the line
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  Speaker 2: of scrimmage or before the ball carrier really has a
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  Speaker 2: chance to make a move. Didn't happen like anything crazy
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  Speaker 2: alarming rate, but it happened enough to, you know, muddy
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  Speaker 2: the waters. So I think it's also a little tough
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  Speaker 2: because I want to see better from the starters, but
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  Speaker 2: because there's joint practice, I don't know how much we're
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  Speaker 2: going to see the starters this week. Kind of worries
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  Speaker 2: me just because I want to see it. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure if they don't play, it means they're fine. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I guess this then boils down to those backups because
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  Speaker 2: we saw this past week against the Bears, the backups
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  Speaker 2: didn't fare much better than the starters did in that game.
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  Speaker 2: So talked about it in the postgame show talking about
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  Speaker 2: it again, like there just has to be an improvement upfront.
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  Speaker 2: And it kind of also links to my prior broad
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  Speaker 2: thought on just the sense of urgency, kind of playing
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  Speaker 2: more dominant and physical and decisive. But that obviously is
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  Speaker 2: all tied to mental and you have to feel confident
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  Speaker 2: in your assignments and all of that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So it's all linked, and it obviously is all very
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  Speaker 2: broad and that's football. But I think it's offensive line
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  Speaker 2: for me, especially against the Steelers and AFC nor team
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  Speaker 2: that likes to be physical, Like this is a good
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  Speaker 2: litmus test for you know, how can we bounce back
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  Speaker 2: from such a poor showing in Week one. Here's our
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to kind of prove that we can get back
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  Speaker 2: on track. So I think there's a lot of layers
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  Speaker 2: to it, but yeah, offensive line, I'm eager to see
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  Speaker 2: how they bounce back.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of mine as well, so I'm in
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  Speaker 1: lockstep with you. Also, I'm not the big I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a big like Ross stats kind of guy, but and
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  Speaker 1: again his preseason, but the if you look at the
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  Speaker 1: Bills rushing numbers in that game against the Chicago Bears,
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  Speaker 1: and again preseason Week one, YadA, YadA, twenty six attempts
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  Speaker 1: for seventy seven yards. That's a yards per attempt of
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  Speaker 1: three point zero. Twenty two of those were for Shane
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  Speaker 1: Buschell scrambling. Twelve of those yards were for Mitch Trubisky,
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  Speaker 1: so that is what fifty five and so they had
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  Speaker 1: forty three yards basically for their non quarterbacks rushing in
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  Speaker 1: that game. If my math is correct, Ray Davis five attempts,
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  Speaker 1: two yards. Yeah, a yards per attempt of zero point four.
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  Speaker 1: That's really kind of where it. I'm in lockstep with you.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said in that regard, I I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see more from Ray Davis and more from Gore on
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  Speaker 1: his pops is in the comments. Yeah, Alan had a
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  Speaker 1: scramble for seven yards, so yeah, you have a Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen quarterback run there as well, one for seven yards.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to see what the running backs could do,
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  Speaker 1: and I saw some flashes from Ray Davis in the
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  Speaker 1: past game, especially on the tape, saw some flashes from
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  Speaker 1: Frank Gore, but I wanted to see more of it.
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  Speaker 1: In the traditional run. The run game really did not
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  Speaker 1: get going until the third team went in there, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we got some of those pin and poll
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  Speaker 1: runs with VPG kind of leading things out and Darrynton
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  Speaker 1: Evans following behind him. It was and like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it's frustrating because if the old line is playing bad,
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  Speaker 1: not only is the old line playing bad and that's
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  Speaker 1: bad for the old line, but it makes everything else
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  Speaker 1: so hard to evaluate, Like the quarterbacks don't have time
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  Speaker 1: in the pocket, the running backs don't have time to
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  Speaker 1: do anything, like Ray Davis was getting hit before the
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  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage or at the line of scrimmage on
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  Speaker 1: multiple handoffs. It just makes everything so much harder. There's
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  Speaker 1: that trickle down effect from a negative standpoint, and so
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  Speaker 1: much of the preseason, and like we talked about, is
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  Speaker 1: about evaluation, is about filling out their roster. Who can
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  Speaker 1: do what and in what scenario. And if the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line can't function, it makes it so hard to evaluate
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  Speaker 1: everyone else, like, oh, you know this wide receiver, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know because the quarterbacks running for his life in
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  Speaker 1: the first second and a half, and so the route
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  Speaker 1: distribution falls apart, in the past opportunity falls apart, So
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  Speaker 1: it starts with the offensive line. For me, and really
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  Speaker 1: just kind of holistically broad term, I would like to
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  Speaker 1: see if they can get push and create displacement. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and like you said, especially versus that Steelers front, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see who plays. But they've just got dudes Keanu Benton
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  Speaker 1: and then Adams, Ogan, Joby Watt, Hayward High Smith.
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  Speaker 4: I doubt Hey Smith plays.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a groin, so I doubt they, you know,
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  Speaker 1: gear him up for a preseason game. But whether it's
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  Speaker 1: the starters or the second or third team dudes, they
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  Speaker 1: can get after it in Pittsburgh. And then you know, again,
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  Speaker 1: like we talked about the postgame, and like you just mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like whoever they have, like once you put
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  Speaker 1: on the Steelers and uniform, like it just takes over.
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  Speaker 2: The few months they'll assimilate to that.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody who puts on that uniform assimilates to the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: culture and the mentality. It's like, yeah, they kind of
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  Speaker 1: understand the assignment and what they're there to do, and
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  Speaker 1: the brand just kind of takes over at that point.
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  Speaker 1: And I think also too again adding in the joint practices,
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  Speaker 1: I think gives them extra work as well, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: like even if those starters, those dudes aren't playing in
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the preseason game, they're gonna go against each other and practice,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: because those dudes are hopefully and most likely practicing, But yeah,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: can they get pushed, can they create displacement? Because it
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: was something that we saw this team struggle with from
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: the first from the starters, from the second team, from
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: the third team. Again, the third team I think had
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: some more positives to them in the run game and
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: some pieces in pass pro but man like Austin Booker
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: ninety four, that rookie from Kansas, he was given it
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to vandamark like and even on the right side of
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the line too.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Their backup edges looked good.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Robinson number ninety gave it to Spencer Brown on several
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: reps with the ones, and then even just the you know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I think I think it was kind of McGovern I'm
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: not positive who said it after the game, kind of like,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: you know, they were doing stunts and different things up
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: front that you know, as soon as we you know
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: it happened, we go to the sideline and we knew
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: everything they were doing and what they were talking about,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you know, YadA YadA, YadA. But it was just and
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: again the Bears weren't doing anything crazy, but it was disappointing.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: To kind of see the bills like ones just get
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: completely wrecked from like a run stunt and the little
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: pieces that kind of affect them like that, like just
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: like okay, cool, we're going to take.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: The practice and get better, Like yep, yeah, he gotta
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: react to it.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: That's it just taking a defensive end and being like
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: we're gonna put him in the B gap and put
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: this linebacker in the sea gap. That shouldn't destroy everything
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: that you're doing. And granted, sometimes the timing is perfect.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: You call a run stunt against the perfect run at
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the right time, and it just can blow everything up.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: So I call them that like that slot corner blitz
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: to the side that the quarterback is going to like
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: naked two, and it just you're just like, oh my god,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: what friggin timing for that play. So there was some
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: of that kind of like perfect storm aspect hitting them.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just thought overall again watching it back
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: on the tape, it was just a really bad offensive
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: line performance, lack of protection. Even though Buchelle kind of
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: invited some of that on him, he had some opportunities
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to get the ball down field, didn't take advantage of it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the old line overall was not great, but
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: going into some kind of like the hidden gems. I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: feel like I keep saying this lot as we talked
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: about in the post game. I liked what Cedric vanperen
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Granger did in the run on the move, getting to
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: the second level, climbing, attaching to dudes and kind of
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: staying on them for a bit. Something I thought he
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: needed to work on based on his tape at Georgia,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: but I liked what he did. I'm interested to see
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: kind of how he continues to grow as a rump
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: blocker and as a pass protector. We did see some
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: of the pieces that he showed at Georgia, the movement
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: and the physicality, but also like the awareness, the constant
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: scanning and trying to figure out who he needs to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: provide help to. I also thought Lyle Collins was a
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: nice piece at left guard with the second team. I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: think where he is at in his career, having him
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: be at guard, allowing him to lean into his experience
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and his size and his power and not having him
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: have to rely on athleticism and being able to mitigate
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the movement pieces by putting him at guard, I think
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: is one helpful for him but two, I thought he
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: was a nice calming piece on that line. He gave
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Vandermark some help at left tackle on multiple occasions. I
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: thought his length showed the technique, showed the veteran presence.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Like I felt good about him kind of being in
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the mix there. And I don't want to paint with
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: too broad of a brush, but like other than Collins
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and VPG, I really didn't like what the offensive line did,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Like it was just not you know what, I shouldn't
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: say that. Dean Dawkins had two really good snatch traps,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: so that was in mid season form for him, which
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I really liked. But yeah, I think it starts with
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the old line because, like we said, it just leads
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to the It's such a heavy factor in terms of
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: evaluating everything else for the offense, and it's an important
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: part of football, and with how important the run game
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: is going to be for the Bills this year part
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: of the whole, like oh Man reduced formational with and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: these body types they have at wide receiver and tight end,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of that value is tied to the threat
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of the run and being able to run the ball
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: as a team. And if you can't do that, I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to say they're dead in the water, but
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be significantly harder. And then if you also
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: add on like pass protection issues, then you're getting, you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: even more money. But I thought the ones, while being
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: underwhelming versus the run, I thought they largely were fine
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: in pass pro, like I thought from Dawkins Brown. Brown
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: had several reps where he looked kind of rough, but
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: then he had a couple where he looked great, So
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: it was kind of like the Spencer Brown roller coaster
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: rear its head again. But Torrents had a couple of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: really good reps in pass pro Soda McGovern. So I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: thought the ones were largely fine in pass pro, but
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the run game was bad. And then the second team
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: O line was pretty much bad in everything minus Lyle
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Collins and also kind of seeing that too. How does
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the depth show out? Like we talked about with corner,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: at some point, your corners are gonna get hurt, so
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you need at the corner. The same thing happens at
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: old line. What the Bills had last year with their
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: starting old line being healthy for the entirety of the year,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: That is a rarity times a thousand in football at
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: any level. So you know your depth is going to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: get tested. You need at least like two good dudes
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: on the bench that you're comfortable putting in, preferably a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: guard and a tackle.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Like right now, if something happened to.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Edwards or Torrance, I'm decently comfortable being like, okay, cool
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Lyle Collins can do this. If Brown or Dawkins go down, right,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I'm terrified of Yeah, I'm terrified of who's going into tackle,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Like I don't feel comfortable at all. Like Vandermark is
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: better on the left than he is on the right,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but he didn't look great in that first game. I'm
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: not confident in Grayble. We'll see what he can be.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: And then everyone else was kind of in that same boat.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, really seeing how that death kind of comes
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: into form, because it's scary after that first team and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: then again the first team they gotta get some push.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the depth was a scary piece to see.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, back to the run game specifically, I mean I
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: just went and looked at it. They the Bills allowed
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: they got sorry point nine yards before contact per carry
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: in this game, which only happened to them four times
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I would say, which is not good.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the four times it happened to them last year,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: they ran for less than four yards per carry in
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: those games.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: And so tying that into dang, let me guess I'm
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: not gonna be able to find it now. No. Oh yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: last year as a team, I don't have the exact number,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: but last year they were fifth in rushing yards before
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: contact as a team. And then and if you're talking
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: just running back carries, they were third in running back
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: yards before contact and second in running back yards before
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: contact per carry. So whether you're talking volume, whether you're
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: talking efficiency, they were tremendous last year. And keeping everybody
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: clean through the line, yeah, we did not. Like we
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: talked about the post game too.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: They ran Dart on that first run play and twice
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: in the first five plays in the game or something, and.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Edwards got mashed and got no movement and no push.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And then Tremaine. I thought it was so funny that
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: on that one, like Edmunds met Brown of the hole
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and gummed it up, and I was like, that's ironic that, like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: not only did this play work, but Tremaine Edmonds had
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: like a hand in it. Like I thought that was
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a little ironically poetic. Yeah, I'm locked up with you,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And again, I think it's nice to kind of the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: conversation like that was around this game last year with
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the Bills and Steelers, Like okay, cool, like Spencer Brown,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: like can he be more consistent?
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Cool?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You're gonna go up against TJ wat a bunch, Like,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: let's kind of see what happens against the Steelers.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: So this will be a nice little litmus test.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, Yeah, I'm in lost up with you
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: on the offensive line, anything else on the old line
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: before we moved to our next topic.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: No, let's keep on moving.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: All right, you're up for number two.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see kind of how the rest of
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: your list follows through and how much were just like
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, same, oh yeah, same, or if we have
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: like different pieces.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: One for one, did you go order? Did you go
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: in an order? Did you rank them?
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: O line is number one for me?
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't rank mine, So I mean it's I guess
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: just coincidental that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fair.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I in theory didn't either.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: But if you like, yeah, like Oline is my top,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: but I could be sway now O line is is
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: my top overall because again mainly just because of the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: lack of push and displacement in the run game for
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the ones, and then just how bad everybody else was,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Like I was scared, like coming out of the game
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and out of the tape.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So my second one, I didn't really rank mine,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: But my my second one that I'm going to talk
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: about is kind of broadly rookies, but specifically Keon Coleman.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: After watching the tape, I was, you know, happy with
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the little things that he did, but from a route
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: running perspective, there's still just a little bit to be
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: desired with him. And I mean, obviously it's all to
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: work in progress, and the idea of drafting him in
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the first place was the fact that he has a
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: lot of room to grow. So it's not like dooming
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: gloom for me to say this. It's just kind of,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you know, he did some little things to get open,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and there were times that he was open when the
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: ball wasn't thrown his way and stuff like that. So
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it's not to say everything's bad, but there is definitely
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: still some room for growth. And I'm just kind of
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: eager to watch more reps because we only got so
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: many with him, and we got a handful with him
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: with Mitch Trubisky and not Josh Allen, so that like
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I want to hopefully get that overlap where we get
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to see him with Josh Allen. But like I said earlier,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I just don't know about the starters reps in this
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: game because of the joint practice. But then moving along,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I guess to other rookies, most notably, I would tie
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: it to Dwayne Carter because Dwayne Carter got a lot
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: of snaps because of Ed Oliver going down right away,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: and he played a lot of snaps in one Tech,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: which was less ideal than you know, we'd hope for someone.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: In going back and watching the tape, I was like,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: they're three tech in Austin Johnson a bunch, and I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: wonder if it was because they were like, man, you
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: really slimmed down, You look great. Do you want to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: play three instead of one? Yeah?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Whatever reason, But yeah, I'm just kind of eager to
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: see once again how he improves. I I remember we
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: talked about Dwayne Carter and kind of saying how how
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: underwhelming he was in this game, and after watching the tape,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I want to retract some of it because there were
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: definitely some times when he was at one tech and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: he was taking on double teams and he was he
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: was doing his job. It's just unnoticed.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: He had a couple of lies like tackles or stopped
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: thinking of the one. There was one I think towards
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the red zone for the Bears. Specter got out in
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: front and got under his man and he forced to
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: cut back in the hole and Carter made the tackle
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: because he was he came flat down the line.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: He didn't get reached by his zone.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, granted it was a little hard for that right
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: guard to reach him based on where Carter was, but
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: he did a good job not getting reached, get down
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the line making the tackle. I was like, okay, that's nice.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Like he did some things, but yeah, on first watch
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: on broadcast, it was like wow, like not feeling this
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: guy at all getting washed out of every play. It
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: was someplace. It did happen on someplace.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a couple of double teams where he
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: got like knocked back, But then he had one where
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: he like dropped the knee.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Wundt like, wow, okay, yeah, you're you can be useful
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: at one tech in a pin.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: That's why we say man with the trenches, you gotta
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: wait for the All twenty two because broadcast doesn't that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: side angle, especially if you are not the near side
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: to the camera. So if there's an edge player, a
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle and then you it's hard to see why
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the hell's.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Going to see? Yeah, you can't see much, but yeah
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you're not wrong. Like getting the coaches film for this
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: game was was huge, specifically for a player like him,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: because I would have gone into the next game like
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: so underwhelmed and upset with how he played. And I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: felt like he played a very middling game, like there
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: were things to improve on and there were things to
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: take away positively from it. So I'm kind of curious
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: how he's going to do in the next week. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: once again it ties back to the idea of playing
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the Steelers in the trenches, like another big test, another
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: litmus test. So excited for that. And then I'm trying
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to think there was definitely another rookie now because I
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: already kind of touched on Ray Davis.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Party VPG not having Javon Solomon.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: That was it. You nailed it. He he had a
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: really good game.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: And I feel like I did nail but I also
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: was just naming like.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Now you you got there. I threw a blank.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I'm a volume shooter.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know works works for a lot of people
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: It all against the board, and if something sticks.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: It was stuck.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: It stuck.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Uh Yeah. Javon Solomon had a really solid game, Like
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: just from takeaways on who he is as a rookie,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: what he was doing in early snaps against starters, like
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the reps he got against like Braxton Jones and Darnell
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Wright was very encouraging. You can definitely see this guy
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: has a lot of potential and room to grow despite
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: maybe his limitations because of his height, Like it it
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: really doesn't prove to be that limiting for him, Like
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: there's definitely some drawbacks for sure, but like he really
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: fights through, has really great get off, really good feel
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to bend around the edge. It's you talked about it
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: in the postgame, like his game is going to be
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: so immensely improved by that inside move to complement his
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: outside rush. And then there were still some handful of
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: plays where he was running down the line on the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: backside of some wide zones like he was obviously it's
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: not his strong suit to play the run, but like,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: especially if you get him out in space like that
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: where he's unblocked and he's on the back side of
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: a play, he's gonna fill the space great, and he
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: did it well with contain as well, So I I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: was very happy with how he played, and I'm hoping
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: he continues stacking. So I guess those are the three
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: rookies I really want to highlight with Ray Davis kind
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of really being I guess pay per clip to the
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: offensive line fair.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: I like that paper clip.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: That's nice. I like that.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I'll piggyback.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: So my second one was the defensive line I brought.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I brought brush gaw. But two of the talking points
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I have specifically were related to Carter and Solomon. I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: do want to start on Coleman with you mentioning exause
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I really like this comment from Pops. Pops said that
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Allen said Coleman got beat on that end route, but
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: then he became the dB and he's talking about that
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: one in the red zone, and then this isn't a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: knock against Coleman.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: I thought that was his best play of the day.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Like that was so heady to get in that moment
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and be like, oh and granted he got beat, so
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: it's a bad.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I should have never been in that position. Like the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: route was pretty lazy at the step, yes.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: But it was not a great route.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: But he made a good dB play like the punch
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: through the hands, the getting the break up, Like I
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: liked that he recovered in that way, and I hope
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: that it takes like that learning moment, especially against like
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: a corner of Jalen Johnson's caliber, who exactly who I'm not.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Pleased changed his number from thirty three to one.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I thought the changing their numbers get used to it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: It's Samuel's a different number, like he's not is he really?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: What is deebo?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I think he wears one now?
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, I hate it, And I just the the way
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the bears Bears have such a good look in Jersey
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and Johnson rock in the thirty three that symmetrical and
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: was so night Yeah it was so centered, like I'm
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a fan of center No, but it's so it's just
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: so skinny and it just looks mad. I don't like it,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and especially this is gonna be like such a boomer
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: take for me, especially on like a corner, Like.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not about THEO.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And yeah, what's with social media nowadays? And Technology and electricity. Yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I just can't like, if you're gonna go single digit
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: as a corner, I need it to be like a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: seven or like if gott to be like five and above,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the rest of the fonts just don't line up right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: And the one man Terry Johnson over here, tarn that's fair.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, seven is cool.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I was actually when I first thought of seven, I
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: was taking to like Patrick Peterson at LSU and yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: like I'm thinking of the sevens, like yeah, but so
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm annoyed to Jalen Johnson that he did,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm also annoyed that the other corner that game
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: was like Jalen Jones. I was like, really, we're rocking
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: double Jalen's. And then we got number of changes like
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: what is everybody doing?
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: It's a scouting pipeline. Just accept it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: That's fair, that's understandable. That's you know, who's what's your
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: n C double A twenty five pipeline set too, Jalen Jalen?
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: What do you mean like like not a country, Nope, it's.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Just sal just Jalen's.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Everybody on my squad is a.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Jalen oh Man.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: That's yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Well that's all the top five, you know, the five
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: star recruits. I got no pipeline for him. Why because
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: they're from like an area you're scouting. No, they're not
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: named Jalen. Yes, my pipeline it is what it is. Yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: he I mean Jalen Johnson had such a good year
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: last year, second team All Pro corner legit dude. So
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: it was nice to see kind of coma goal up
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: against him, and you know, Johnson's legit. And I think
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I take that as a learning lesson of like, yeah,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you can't get lazy with your routes.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: At any point in the NFL AE zone, like you
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: got you gotta be precise in the red zone. There's
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: not a lot of space. You can't get lazy with
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: false steps.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair. Oh Zack of all Trade said, speaking
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: of rap, going to nine is so bad in my opinion,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I like the nine on right. I feel you know
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: what's funny is I didn't I love a good twenty.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I didn't like the twenty on him.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I like the nine on him more than the twelve.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But I also think it's the way like this is
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: also going to like take it to another level. Good
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: number aesthetic is also tied. I think to like the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: size and frame of the player, and I think how rap. Yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: so I'm not good. I'm not crazy. I think the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: nine fits him well because of his size, and I
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: like this coming through rap as A twenty was so
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: much more men to say, I don't know. I feel
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: like I feel like the single digit on a safety
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: is like, oh, that dude's a psycho, especially if it's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: not one.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Like if it's just a single digit or if it
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: was a zero.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, uh oh, like that that guy's coming
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: for like a dude's head. Yeah, I feel like the
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: single digit on the safety, but I like that.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: That's definitely agree with. You don't know why that's fair?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: So I didn't love what I saw from Keyhunk Holeman,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: but again it's the preseason.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And I do think. I also think the bar for him.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it got like moved, but
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I think his athleticism and his size and frame plays
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: very well to training camp highlights and not that he
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: has not had a good training camp, because he has.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: But I'm wary of or I should say, I should say,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about how good of a camp he's had
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and the highlights that get put out, I'm afraid of
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: that setting a level of expectation for fans that he's
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: ready to hit the ground running and ball out and
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: then like as a rookie, and.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: There's just so much more to it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in the NFL regular season against the opposition's best
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: rep in repout, teams are studying you.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: They're game planning for you.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Like the most you're gonna get in training camp is
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: like you're going up against dudes you know regularly, and
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: you know, okay, you know you wind up against Rasoul
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Douglas five times today. By the second or third and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: especially fourth time, Douglas is like, all right, last time
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: he beat me with this, I'm gonna watch for this
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: or I can read him and do this. Once you
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: get into the season, like dudes are scouting for you,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: like they know your route stem, they know your releases,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: they know what you work and so on and so forth.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: And so I think that first game was not even
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: just and the offense didn't play great on top of it,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: so it made it worse. But I think it's kind
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: of is a little bit of a wake up call
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: for everyone that like the offense has look good in
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: training camp, but you're not just gonna set the world
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: on fire right out the gate from the preseason as
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: a team in general, but especially as a rookie and
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: especially for who, like we talked about, I think the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: ceiling is legitimately high for him.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I think he could be a true wide receiver one.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I just think it could take like three years to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: get there because of how raw he is and how
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: green he is. It all depends on what that trajectory
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: looks like from a refinement and technicality, polish precision standpoint,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: because he does not have that in his game. And
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: we talked about in in the post game, even that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: little comeback route that a bunch of people were like,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: look at the separation, Look at the separation. It was
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: kind of clunky and like it almost looked like he
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: jammed his leg into the ground and his leg like
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: locked out on him. Like it's he still needs that
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: aspect to his game, a.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Little rounding off on those jagged edges. But you can see.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I think the main takeaway from this is like, as
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: disappointing as parts of it were, there's still like there's
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: still hope, Like this guy is not someone we're closing
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: the door on. This is not someone we're disappointed the
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: bills took. It's really just like it's gonna take some time.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: And to your point on like the social the social
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: media camp post, Like to your point, his archetype is
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: literally like create highlights for social Like that's that's the
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: type of receiver.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: He's a power forward.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tice hit it on the night of the draft.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: He's Sean Kemp. He's this highlight power dunker that makes
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you go like ooh, and then it's like oh yeah,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: but he went you know, six to eighteen from the floor,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: but he had these highlights that made you go wow.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: The moments in between are like, we know you have
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: more in the tank, like give me the dunk, but
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: you're not always gonna get the dunk because.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of you know what it makes me
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: think of like early Clippers Blake Griffin that was just
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: this highlight dunk monster, but he had no mid range,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: he had no jumper, and then he started to get that.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: So it's funny you say that. While you were talking before,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about how the Chiefs got off to
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a slow start with Rashid Rice and then they kind
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: of realized what his strengths were through the season and
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: he kind of started to I think the bill are
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: going to have to do a little bit of that
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: to help Keon Coleman's development, because he's he's sufficient in
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: all areas, but there are some areas that you might
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: need to hide of his game more than others. And
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I think the Bills need to do him justice by
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: putting him in positions to win with what he's already
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: strong enough to win with and let him build that
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: confidence and then give him opportunities once he has the
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: confidence to grow in his areas of improvement. And I
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: think that's just all part of you know, human development
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I'm sure the Bills are
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: on top of it and they'll figure that out for him.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: But to me, that feels like a trajectory that can
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: help him, not that he needs help mentally, He's very
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: secure with who he is, but I think exactly. I mean,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you saw it on the pass breakup like it's he's
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: a smart dude and he wants it. So I'm not
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: worried about his trajectory, but I think something like that
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: could help him early.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: That was very well said. I wrote down this timestamp
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: so I could cut this as a promo. That was
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: very well said. I want to grab a couple of
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: comments from the chat. I want to grab this one
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: first from Zach, who said, an the design of your
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: shirt plus your red hats giving me KC vibes?
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Stop it too better?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: This is the Bills hat and then this is a
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes T shirt.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know what I did wrong. How is I
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: give it KC vibes? I don't understand.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I don't understand, and.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I take that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I do have a Derek
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Thomas jersey because I loved Derek Thomas as a player.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I should just go and change into that.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I like.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I want to grat this comment from Jerry, who said
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: did players ever change numbers without changing teams ten years ago?
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: I don't remember it as much and a lot of
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: it for me.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Sorry, there's no way right.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: No, No, players did not change as much, but also
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: too and I think this is still the rule. If
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you change your number, you have to buy all that backstock. Yeah, okay,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: so you have to buy all the backstock of all
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the jerseys that have been put into production with your
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: old numbers. So Deebo, if he changes from nineteen to one,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: he has to buy every Deebo Samuel number nineteen jersey
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: that's already been made. And so I think for like,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: especially the bigger players, that's like a have to chunk
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: of change.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I believe that's why Kirk Cousins didn't change to eight,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: because then he would have held he would have had
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: to help Kyle Pitts buy out his remaining Kyle Pitts jerseys.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: God, that's brutal, man, Kyle Pitts. Just if the thing
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I keep feel like every year, I'm always like, man,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the Falcons, the Falcons, the Falcons. Then if the Falcons
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: still can't get it together with like a new coaching
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: staff and Kyle Pitts and two quarterbacks, bro, I'm just bijon.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Is so good Pitts, I understand, is it conventional, but
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: is nasty? And then I love Drake London. You and
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I both love Drake London like Kyler el.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Is going to get the touches. So you know for.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Yourself, Oh man, just so disappointing.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so we'll see what Coleman can be in
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: this next game. I wondered also too, how much he
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: draws of Like I'd like to see him versus Joey
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Porter Junior, some physical and physical action. Let's see kind
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: of what we get with that. Yeah, with what Coleman
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: can do. But again, I do think I think the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: highlight aspect of training camp may have set an unfair
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: bar for him. Come to season, and you know we
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: will see. I just don't. I just don't want people
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: to see like in the first game he's got like
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: two catches for twenty two yards and the next game
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: he's got like one for thirteen.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: He he's the worst. Yeah, let's all learn from the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmunds experience and not just set unreasonable expectations.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: And Olive I think is in that boat too, because
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: people were like, oh, there could be another Aaron Donald and.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Then that's I mean, who you could say it with
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: any top three round draft pick, or how Terrell Bernard
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: was used after year one? What a wasted pick. I
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: did that, I know I did that. So like, let's
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: let's all learn from prior experiences, like give the guys
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: some grace kyri Elam if he pans out this year,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Like let's let's just be patient, like there's four years
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: where this guy has room to grow and prove that
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: he belongs.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: To stay level headed.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Kendle over here breaking the time my best you do
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: and it shows. So Dlon was my other point for
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: number two, and you mentioned some of them, so overall
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: high level just for like the group as a whole,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I just I wanted to just see more
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: effectiveness up front. Give me some penetration versus the run.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Generate some pressures, sacks, anything to show some wins up front.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Like we talked about on the post game, it felt
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: like in order to get a stop against the run,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: like they had to bring a un a run blitz,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: like they had to bring bodies. It wasn't like, oh
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: okay because so and so did this, or so and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: so on upfront, or they had multiple guys that do this.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: It felt like they were winning with volume.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: They're winning with quantity instead of quality, and that's not
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a successful rescue for success. And it felt like just
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: versus Chicago, it was overall like from the starters all
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the way through, for the.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Most part, it just felt like a dull performance.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Upfront.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: You had some guys who who made some nice plays.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: You know, I thought Epanessa, like we were talking about offline,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I think Evanessa had a fine start. You know, you
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: mentioned Salomon one Wan to talk about I thought Cameron
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Klein had some nice reps as a pass rusher, but
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: also in he was one of the few edges in
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: that game from a volume standpoint, who did a good
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: job setting the edge versus the run. He had a
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: couple of good reps where he was working through double teams,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: he was getting a tackle end to tight end on him,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and he was splitting and reducing his surface area, you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: and maintaining his gap integrity and responsibility.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: So I like some of the things that he did.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: But again overall, just for the group, I thought that
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you know, when they would run stunts, it was really clunky.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: They had clunky stunts and two man games. Guys were
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: running into each other, their timing looked off and just
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: all kind of going through to that lack of execution piece.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Things just did not seem smooth on that smooth things
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: were not smooth and effective. On the defensive line for
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills against the Chicago Bears and then diving
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: into some of the players, you know, I'll start with
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Carter just because you went with him first.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: On you know, in the post game, I talked about
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: how I really liked the game that Austin Johnson had
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: and I did not like what Dwayne Carter did. After
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: watching the All twenty two, I liked Carter a little
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: bit more and I liked Austin Johnson a little bit
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: less because there were some reps where Johnson got blown
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: off the.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Ball against some doubles.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And granted that happened for Carter, but you know, I
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: think Carter still is a work in progress. He did
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: flash more than I thought, But can he can he
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: just be more?
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Can he just show more in some way because the.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: And I've said this so much like the tape A
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Duke showed a guy who, again against double teams, he
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: would get blown off the ball. He wasn't dropping the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: knee enough, he wasn't reducing his surface area, he wasn't
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: recognizing that feed block coming from the side and recognizing
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and adjusting. Anybody get kind of blown, you know, off
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the ball and blown out of the gap and allow
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: for like kind of an alleyway to be created.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: And that happened at times against the Bears.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: But also just like the lack of pass rush pop
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: from him, like he was a quick get off yeah,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you know, gap penetrator, like he fit that Bill's mold
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: for a three tech. Like somebody who's going to shoot
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: their gap and you know, maybe maybe they get caught
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: in a trap or block, but man, they're gonna get blown.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: They're gonna jump off the ball more.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Often than not, and they're gonna get into the backfield
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: cause some problems for the QB.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe they don't get home, but he'll generate.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Pressures, he'll cause tackles for loss and negative plays against
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: the offense. We just really didn't see that. We didn't
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: see the gap shooting, we didn't see the penetration. It
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: just seemed again overall, I feel like his performance was
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: kind of somewhat of a microcosm of the defensive line
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: as a whole, where it was just dull, It lacked bit,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: it lacked juice, and it was just very kind of
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and again, like you said, like on watching the All
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: twenty two, there were reps that I liked, and so
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I felt better about him than I did coming out
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: of the broadcast, but I still did overall not like
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: his performance against the Bears. Solomon, on the other hand,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: like he talked about, he's another one in me for
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: my details. I like the game that he had. I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: liked him reading the mesh point against the run and
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: making those plays at the line of scrimmage. You know,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: one was early on and he read it on his
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: side and came down made the tackle. One later, I
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: you know, it was a boot leg with Beigent, And
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he read it or just guessed
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: and sold out to make the stop on the run,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: but either way he made the stop.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: He had one. Two that was nice.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Burr I think it was Beigent was still the QB.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: It was when the Bears are.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Kind of backed up towards their own goal line and
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Beijing ends the quarterback steps up to try and scramble,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and Andresen like kind of makes the stop a yard
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: or two pass the line of scrimmage. But Solomon tries
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: to beat the left tackle around the corner. Oh and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: then Cameron Klein beats the right tackle, which forces Beijing
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I think, to step up and evade, and Solomon sees
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: it and immediately slams on the brake, spins and turns
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and gets up field. And Andresen makes the stop. But
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Solomon was right there. And I see little pieces like
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that along with his athleticism and his juice and his
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: bend and his dip, and yeah, I was really encouraged
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: by his opening performance. But like we talked about, and
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: like the tape showed, I put a couple of them
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: out on Twitter. He was going for that move that
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: he won with so often at Troy, where he takes
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: off to try and turn the corner. He flashes that
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: hand to try and get you to commit, and then
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: he dips and he's either gonna beat you around the
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: corner or even if you get hands on him, because
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: he's got a lower center of gravity and he's got
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a strong core, he'll dip and flatten through your hands,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: and he'll rip through your arm and he'll flatten and
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: get to the QB. Darnell Wright just got enough of
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: a hand on him to force him out and it
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: made him round out a little bit. It was on
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the big scramble by Kayleb Williams for the first down
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: on third down when the Bills ran two man and
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Solomon still got around him, but it was just that
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: little bit instead of getting clean and getting right to Williams.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: He just got pushed off a little bit and then
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: had to retrace and go through the pocket. It happened
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: to him later as well. Again, it's not the end
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: of the world. But NFL length and strength and technique
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: is far different than college in general, but especially in
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: no disrespect. What is Troy in like the Sun Belt Conference,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I believe so that even more so, it's not like
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: he's play an edge in the SEC, you know, even
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten now because the Big Ten has like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: seventy five teams. Also, maybe you mass according to your
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: NCAA universal kind of see how No, no.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Not anymore. No, I went, I went acc.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, I wanted you to go crazy, be like I went,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I went. I joined the PAC twelve. It's me Oregon
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: State in Washington State. That's that's the three of the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: pack three. I would love that. Like, who's in the
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: pack three? Oh, it's Oregon State, Washing State?
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: And you mask what a what a travel schedule everywhere
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: that's brutal.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so it just you're not gonna win like
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: that consistently at that size and again at the level
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: of competition is just significantly higher here in the NFL.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: And so I want to see, Yeah, does he develop
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: more of an inside move. Can he threaten the outside
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and stab inside? Can you get a spin something to
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: or even maybe instead of trying to bend and rip
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: through the arc, maybe going with that arm drag a
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: little bit where you kind of like get through and
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: then you grab the arm.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: And use it to pull your sells you a little bit.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe adjusting some of the hand technique, just something too,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: because I do think that the bread and butter of
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: his game is going to be the athleticism.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: But that shouldn't go away. It should still be attacking
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the outside shoulder. But yeah, diversified the.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Portfolio exactly, and so just putting more moves together. And
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: like we talked about, like this is a dude who
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: he understands pass rush plan. He understands if I do
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: this move in the first quarter, I can do it again,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: and then in the fourth quarter, I'm gonna make them
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: think it's come in and I'm gonna do something else.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: So but again, either way, like even with that very
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: encouraging performance from him in that first game, then also
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: kind of with the defensive line as well, we alluded
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: to it, can they just be better? Versus outside runs,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: like just basic stuff like zone toss and crack toss.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: They got crushed as a group. And then also specifically
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you know, pops through it out there, he said like
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Smoot in all caps, Yes, Smoot got got a couple
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: of times and not set in the edge and letting
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: some runs get outside. I think Smooth was the one
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: on the edge on that play that you and I
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: were texting about earlier where Rapp blows up the full back.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I think they turned the corner because gets put inside. Yeah,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: they just did not hold the edge well as a group.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: And that's like.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: That's like as football one oh one, as it gets
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: like don't let the run get outside. You you have
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to be that forced player, like you have to set
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the edge, no pun intended as the edge player there.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: So can they do that bettering?
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: And I think that goes into kind of like the
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: fundamentals and the technique of it, going into the kind
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: of the dull performance, the group lacking bite and tenacity,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and then let's throw anybody else in there too, like
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: if anybody else can make a play. But I thought,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: you know, Austin Johnson was all right. After watching the tape,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't like what Deshaun Williams put together.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: I felt like he was.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Getting bounced all over the line of scrimmage and getting
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: put out of his gap. We'll see more of you know,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: the starters maybe in this game. But yeah, maybe do
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: we get any Casey two Hill? What kind of impact
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: can he have? Just Cameron Climb build on his game
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: and kind of go forward. What does Solomon do? So
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: on and so forth. Defensive lines are so important in
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: football day, but especially to the Bills based on the
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: type of defense that they play, so they can't afford
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: to have kind of these performances stack, you know, one
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: after the other. And if and if ed Oliver is
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: out again, you know, right, what does that rotation look like?
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: And exactly that is your opportunity? Cool Doane Carter, You're
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: gonna get more reps to Shawn Williams. You're gonna get
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: more reps so on and so forth. Anything else on
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: your second point rookies or defensive line stuff, No, I'm good,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: copy that all right, Kendall. Your third point, befoor is yours, godspeed.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Third point is secondary depth. I think there's just a
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: lot of moving and shaking in the secondary and there's
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of battles to be had to make the
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: end of this roster within that position group. And I
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: also just love watching coverage on coaches film, so I'm
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: gonna be geeking out on all of that stuff for
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the next game as well. And Steelers always have good
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: pass catchers, so it's a good test there. They know
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: how to coach him up in Pittsburgh. But yeah, like
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Kyrie elam really there. I guess after watching the All
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: twenty two I'm still very encouraged based on what I
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: said in the postgame podcast about how he seems to
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: be playing a lot more confident and why he looks
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: exactly poise is definitely the right word, like he's very
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: sure of himself and he doesn't get rattled by much
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: right now. You can see he's just mentally calm like that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: But there's still like there's still a lot to prove,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: and he's still kind of working from behind the eight ball,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: which sucks for him, but it's kind of the bed
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: that he made for himself, and I want to keep
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: watching how he progresses because watching him in tandem with
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: like JaMarcus Ingram, both of them have quiet feet, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: the way they do. It is very different like Ingram
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: is very like calculated and controlled with his movie mins,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: and I feel like Elam is very long and loose
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: at times with his movements, and I kind of want
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: to see him get a little bit like tighter and
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: more compact and explosive out of those movements. But obviously
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: so much of that is just limited by your body type,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: like who you are and your natural gait, like some
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: of that is is unchangeable. But it felt like he
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: was kind of getting, you know, losing a split second here,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: like maybe half a yard there in separation just because
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: of some of those movement patterns of his. It's just
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: little things I noticed, But I am overall very happy
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: with how he performed in the first game and hope
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: that he can keep that going. Then cam Lewis, I mean,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I thought he played a great game. I can't wait
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: to see if that keeps going, because I feel like
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: we're always talking about like, oh my god, if Deron
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Johnson goes down, like what are we gonna do? And
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I felt like he played a very solid game. And
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: back up there in the nickel that coverage that we
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: thought wasn't a penalty. Again, I honestly still think it's
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: close though, Like he definitely puts hands on him, but
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: like he impeded him significantly, but he had great positioning
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: like he's playing outside leverage and then he outbreaks it
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: without any deception, like he's in the right spot, ran
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: the route for exactly, like at a certain point, like
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know. To me, I don't. I don't love
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: that flag, Like I could see how it's called because
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: there was contact for sure, and I believe it was
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: called illegal contact.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Not like yes, which is why I thought, which is
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: why I was fine.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, by the letter of the law, that is
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: illegal contact, so it's okay, but it was it was
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: good coverage, Like.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: It was good coverage.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I also just hate like that dude's play, like it's
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: so hard to be a freaking dB, like.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Come on, man, exactly. I was like, come on. So
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I'm happy with what Camp Blue is showing us. And
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: then safety, there's just a lot, there's a lot going on.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: It's safety right now, obviously. Yeah, we talked about a
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: play where Rap just absolutely blows up full back on
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: a toss, which is awesome, very decisive from him, and
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: it allows his teammates to flow to the ball because
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: he forces the ball back inside. It was a good
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: play by him, and then Tamar Hamlin just kind of
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: quietly very sound game. But I want to see more
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: from him because I feel like he wasn't really put
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: in positions or sorry, I shouldn't say he wasn't put
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: in positions. He just happened to not be in positions
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to make plays this game. There were a couple of
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: times where he was just washed out by some trash
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: in the run game. He just couldn't make the play.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Some of that's on him, some of them is just
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: play some of that's just play calling. But I want
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: to see if he can make a little bit more
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: of a splash, not necessarily like interceptions and stuff like that,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: but just a little bit more of a splash to
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: show his impact on the field in this next game
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: because there's just a lot of moving shaking in the secondary.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: So I kind of want to see how that continues
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: to play out because I feel good about the starters,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: but we also don't really know what the ideal starters
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: are at safety. And then I want to see how
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: the depth stuff works out at corner. Uh.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm with you for this last point I titled
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I literally titled that moving and shaking in the secondary
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: when you know, starting with the Ones, I thought it
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: was interesting. And I guess maybe not so because Hamlin
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: isn't like super athletic either, but I thought it was
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: interesting with the single high stuff that the Ones did.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Rap was predominantly the post safety and Hamlin was predominantly
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the box safety or the guy who was down, whether
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: they were running Cover three sky or buzz like he
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: was the one who was coming down and not that. Again,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: it shouldn't be too crazy because it's not like, well
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Hamlin is a speed demon it has great range because
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: he doesn't. But it's interesting to see, especially pairing it
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: with last year when Milana went down. The first thought
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: for me was like, oh cool, now Taylor Rap can
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: be the dime linebacker, and instead they were like, nope,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: player is going to be the dime linebacker and Rap's
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: going to be deep.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: And I was like, they clearly don't like him in that,
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: like overhang roller.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they don't like him in that
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: or they just like him deep like. Either way, I
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: find it very interesting because I again, I know it
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: was several years ago I'm gonna keep going back to
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: him being the guy who played dime linebacker in the
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and was covering down on Jamar Chase and
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd and making an impact. Like again, it's different
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: than being in that role on first and second down
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: when there's more run responsibility, But it is very interesting
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: just with how he's being used as that post guy.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: And again, either way, it scares me because like a
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: rap Hamlin Combo doesn't have single high post safety range,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Like those aren't dudes that are gonna kind of make
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: plays either way, So kind of scares me a little bit.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I so was starting with the safeties. I
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: kind of want to see how that rotation continues to
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: work out. Kendall Williamson really stupid penalty with that hid,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: But I thought he had a couple interesting plays in
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: the game. He had a nice cover down with Hamlin
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: in the red zone, the big completion to Comet from
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Everybody was talking about the throw from Caleb Williams.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: They're in cover one on that play and Dorian gets
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: caught with his eyes in the backfield and Comet just
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: blows by him. And so that play isn't on Williamson.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: It's a hard play because it's yeah, like.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: He could have see he could have reacted maybe a
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: little faster.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: He puts himself.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: He does a thing right as Williams is booting too.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: So if if if I'm Williamson, Caleb is booting this
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: way for some reason. Right as Caleb starts booting, he
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: takes like a jump step to his right right and
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: then has to get on his horse to make a
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: play on Comet. If he doesn't take that jump step,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: he might make a play on the ball. And even
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: with that, I like that. So Caleb puts the ball
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: kind of behind Comet and kamence to turn and catch it,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: and Williamson goes for the punch yeah, and tries to
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: knock it out and he almost gets it.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's a super loud sidne Can you hear that
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: on the mic?
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy loud wild. I have the windows up
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: because it was such a beautiful day. Sorry everyone, or
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I guess the cops just are like, no, Williamson sucks
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: light a bust. He's the worst. So I thought, like
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: that play, like the recovery wasn't too bad, but.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Right, but that's why the initial positioning on that play
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: is somewhat problematic, where he he had an opportunity to
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: read the free man like Comet got by Dorian very quickly.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Obviously he has a lot to process. There's a lot
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: in that field of vision for a deep safety. So
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: it's tough to see that flash of navy blue and know, oh, okay,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: he's that's the guy I gotta pick up.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: And I can understand you're in and again, like you're
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: in the post. Comet can break towards you, break away
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: from you like you. That's funny from Popsit your adding
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: sound effects, that's good like, So you got to respect that.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: But it did like he was watching Klem and Caleb boots,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, bro, he's booting, go with him. But
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: then I guess there is the opportunity. Maybe there's a
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: leak back the other way. So I get it. But
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how he plays, because I really
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: just none of the other safety stood out in any
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: way shape.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Or I agree. I agree, he was the only one
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: that flashed in the depth.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, And what does Mike Edwards' timeline look like? What
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: does Cole Bishop's timeline look like like? There's a very
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: realistic chance that you're going into the season with wrapping
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Hamlin as your starters and Kendall Williamson is your safety three.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Like that's what it looks like right now, depending on
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: what happens with Edwards' return from injury. Does he play
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: next week? Does he get any time at all? If
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: he does come back between the end of the preseason
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: and the regular season, I feel like it that's not
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be enough for them to push him up in
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: becoming a starter, Like does he even make the squad
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: at that point? There's so many there's so much muddiness
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: around him, and so yeah, I feel like there's a
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: realistic Like if there's betting odds, I feel like it's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: a realistic shot if you wanted to bet, like the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: top three safeties for Week one are going to be
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Taylor rap To, Mar Hamlin and Kendall Williamson. Like Burgess
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: had a really ugly mistackle. You didn't really get a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: lot from Delaney. I mean, Kareem Jackson's a vet. He's
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: probably safety four just because you're putting him back there
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: as a known quantity, I guess. But overall, I think
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: the safety spot is ugly. And again it's funny or
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: maybe like painfully ironic that it's ugly compared to what
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: it's been for the entirety of the McDermott tenure, which
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: is like hiding poor or hide and poorer. You're fine.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Even though they looked a little long in the tooth
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: last year, they were still a fine safety tandem even
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: with their limitations due to their age and the miles
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: on the tires. But yeah, safety is still a little
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: ugly for me. I am interested to see again what
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: continues to happen at Corner. I really like what JaMarcus
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Ingram did. Like the physicality the one play I sent
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: you earlier when I texted you like that jump press
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: at the line where he just buries the dude like
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: he times it so perfectly. Yeah, he's there in press
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: and you can see him waiting for the snap to develop,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and as it does, he drops his inside foot and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: then launches and just buries the dude. It was so
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: well timed, so precise with his movements and his keys
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: in his hand positioning. He had another rep two that
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I tweeted out before the show went live. Oh, it
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: was on the the.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams the Cole Comet play.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: On the other side of the field, he's in press
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: against keene Allen, who I know, Keenan Allen is in
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: prime Keenan Allen, but he's still a very good route
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: runner and he has a tremendous release package. He and
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: DeVante Adams are still up there for like the dudes
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: who have the best release packages in football.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: And he he's in a soft shoe press.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, it means he's impressed
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: on the line and on the snap, he's not going
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: for the jam, but he's right up in Keenan Allen's
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: face and he's mirroring what Keenan Allen's doing. So Keenan
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Allen takes a you know, a step this way, Ingram
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: takes a step this way, Keenan Allen takes a step
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: that way. He takes a step that way, and then
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: he gets hands on Keenan Allen is physical with him
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: throughout the entirety of the route, doesn't even let him
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: get beyond like five or six yards. Keenan Allen tries
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: to run a drag. He tries to get vertical at
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: one point and snap it off and Ingram is just
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: all over him and like suffocating him. It was really
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: that rep was really great in addition to the other
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: one that I talked about, and I thought he had
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: a really strong game, Like I was probably most impressed
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: with him than I was any other corner.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: And I thought Kyrie Elam had had some nice plays
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: It's just the expectational level, but I thought Ingram had
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: a really strong day and that type of physicality and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: tenacity that he brings, it's just so welcome on a defense.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Like I love dudes that maybe aren't the most skilled,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: but they have no fear going up and being like, yo,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna punch you in the mouth and.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: We're gonna see what happens.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Like I loved the Bengals Bill's playoff game. Early on
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: in that game, Cameron T. Taylor Brett, the rookie corner
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: from Nebraska, gets into Diggs's face and jams him and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: literally punches him right in the face like on the snap,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: And I love that as like a dude who's gonna
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: like set the tempo to let you know, like I'm
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: here all day. You might beat me, you're gonna have
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: to work for it, Like I'm gonna be on you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: all day.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be a grind like.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: I like the tone that he sets in, the intensity
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: that he plays with, and he had a good game
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: from a technique standpoint. It wasn't just like vibes and
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: dog mentality stuff, So I like what he did. Dike
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: one Hardy had a couple of nice reps but nothing
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: too notable to Corey Kouch got beat really bad on
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: that one big conversion that he also got flag for
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: pass interference for, but he had a couple of nice reps.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Aside from that, he had a really nice run fit
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: that he missed a tackle on. I'm really just again
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: continuing to monitor the whole like back up to Taron
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Johnson position. And I also think too to go in
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: the cam Lewis discussion, if safety is murky, right, is
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: cam Lewis more of like safety three or safety four?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: And the great question.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Because that also ties into what they think of cam Lewis,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: But also if someone else can emerge as the second
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: team Nicol, then they can feel more confident putting cam Lee.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I think that's more what it's about. I think that's
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: more what it's about because I think Nickel is far
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: more important to this defense than either of the two safeties.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Believe it or not, I don't know. Maybe that's that's
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: just what I think. And they're worried about what the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: deft behind Tarn looks like versus what the starters in
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: safety looks like, which is I guess a weird contingency
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: to be worried about than the starters. But I don't know.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like you preclude yourself from putting Lewis at
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: safety without a backup plan behind Arran.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I completely agree, and it just with we talked about
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: it with outside Corner, like corners are gonna get banged up,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: They're gonna get hurt. Nickel, I feel like is even
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: more so because they're involved in run fits so.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Much like we saw it for the first like three
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: years with Tarren.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Arran would play like a psycho and he would
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: get banged up all the time. And I say psycho
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: as like a very complimentary like term because I like
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: no raise. But you're just you're like always getting hit,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: like whether you're in contact with somebody in coverage or
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: you're taking on a block or you're making a tackle,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: like being in and around the box, like being that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Apex defender. It's extremely demanding mentally but also physically. So
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: that's a spot that's more likely to get banged up
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: than the outside dudes, and the outside dudes are already
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: at a high risk.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that's a very fair point.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Like and not that the depth charts mean anything, but
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: like Cam Lewis was listed on the depth chart as
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: like a second team safety going into that game, but
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: played like the second team nickel stuff, And again, not
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: that that means anything, but I feel like, yeah, that like, okay, no,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: somebody's got to show us something for us to move
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Cam out of this spot. Granted is preseason kind of
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: see what happens there, but yeah, I think there's so
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: many questions still to be answered, like what is the safeties,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: what does the how good do the starting safeties look?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: What does the depth look like behind the starters and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: the group as a whole, who's backing up Terran? How
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: does that impact the safeties? And then yeah, what's the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: outside corner battle looking?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I again, I still I'm still it's Benford and Douglas
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: for me right now? Who are you know? The starters?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: And Kyer was like Oh really nice corner three. I
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: don't know, Like JaMarcus Ingram looked like a legit dude
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: against the Bears, against their starters. Like if that continues again,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like like if JaMarcus Ingram comes out
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: and bosses George Pickens, Like, are we like JaMarcus Ingram
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: is corner three? Like if he continues to show out
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: against dudes like that, because also, remember this was a
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: dude who got in two years ago that stupid heat
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: game in Miami.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: Benford got hurt.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: The corners from the majority of that game were Elam
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: and JaMarcus Ingram.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, JaMarcus Ingram.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Was playing in that game, going up against Hill and
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Waddle and their whole squad of dudes, and we didn't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: come out of that game going, man, JaMarcus Ingram got torched.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: We came out of that game being like, we can't
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: do that again, because it's frightful. It was terrifying.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: And granted, the Bills had the ball for like seventy
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: five percent of the game, so the defense wasn't on
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: there a.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Ton, but it still felt like It's felt scary every
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: defensive snap.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every time, because I was just like, oh,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: we're so banged up.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Like you're not wrong. Like in hindsight after that game,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: you weren't like, oh my god, like they played terrible.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: We need our starters back. You needed your stars back
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: for your mental health.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was also nice with Ingram. He gives you
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: inside outside versatility, like he started as a Nickel dude.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: So then I'm like, okay, is he the backup Nickel?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Does he see backup Nickel reps in this game? Like,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: there's so many then to get those answers right, And
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: that's why I toddled it, like the moving and shaking
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: in the secondary, because there's so many it's a lot.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say holes, but there's so Yes,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: there's so many possibilities, and there's multiple puzzle pieces and
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: multiple open spots and you can kind of put the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: puzzle pieces wherever you want.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: It's still gonna make the puzzle fit.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: And yeah, so I'm very interested to see how that
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: plays again and against a group in Pittsburgh who we'll
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: test you a little bit. You know, Fields is still
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Fields at this point, but there's athleticism there. You do
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: have George Pickens And why am I blanking on I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: was about to say Deontay Johnson, and I was like, no, wait, he.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Got to Wilson's inured.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, Roman Wilson is banged up, So it's ah, that's
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: what I was thinking of Van Jefferson.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: The other talking well of Calvin Austen too. They like
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Kelvin Austin down there right now.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: I like Kelvin Austin when he came out of what
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: was it, Memphis?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, but he hasn't done much, but I know,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I know the Steelers are talking him up a lot.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: There's a This is a receiver group that is interesting,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily mean that complimentary. Pickens, Van Jefferson,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Calvin Austin, Quez Watkins, des Fitzpatrick, Roman Wilson, Jacob Cotland,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Jerray Jenkins, Scottie Miller, and then Deuce Watts.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Well, by the time it's game time, they could have
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk oh wild.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: Anybody could have you snipped that.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: That's the ultimate Michael Scott like office snip snap stip
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: snapstip snap, Like every day it's like I don't know
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: where he's going or what he's doing. So yeah, I'm
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: interested to see kind of who gets matched up on
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Pickens and yeah, if it's another day where especially for
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: a dude like Pickens who is athletic and like violent,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I really want to see Ingram on him, cressing him.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: I want to see that type of like heavy wings.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I want to see that for like all
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: of our corners, for all four of our top four corners.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I want to see what they look.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: But I feel like fair, but I feel like the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: mentality of it.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know what you said, Yay, I definitely like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: that's probably the marquee ones just in terms of like
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: the archetype matchup. You want to see that. But I
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: also I want to see that measuring stick for all
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: four guys, because even risuts Douglass, it's like kind of
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: that strength on strength, like you want to you want
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: to see what length and strength versus each other looks like, yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: He's just more quiet.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: I could see Douglas like it, jamm And just being
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: like kind of like whatever. But I could see like
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Ingram Jam and Pickens and Pickens John at Ingram and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Ingram giving it right back. Like I said this in
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: the film room last week when Eric and I were
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: at Camp Claypool and Ingram got we're going at it
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: with each other a little bit, and Claypool is obviously
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: like a monster of a man, right, And I looked
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: right at Eric and I was like, dude, I would
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: rather fight Chase Claypool than JaMarcus Ingram, Like any day
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: of the week.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: I think JaMarcus Ingram like.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Got that crazy from a from a bill standpoint, JaMarcus
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Ingram is very much near the top of the list
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: of dudes that I would not fight on the Buffalo Bills.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Obviously they're football players, They're bigger and stronger than all
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: of us, But like Ingram is close to the top
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: of my list of like dudes that I just don't
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: want it with, Like I feel I would take jamarket.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: You could put JaMarcus Ingram against like Trent Williams, the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: left tackle for the and they'd be like who wins
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: in a fight, And I'd be like, Jermarcus Ingram, Like
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I just feel like Ingram is that dude where like
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: even if he loses, like he's taken like your a cl.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: With him, or like coming out with a pinky Yes, he's.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: Ripping out part of your rib cage, or like something
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: is coming with him, And I just don't want any
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: part of that, but it's awesome to have him.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: And yeah, the dB conversation, it's fun.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: It's interesting how it's it's kind of become a position
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: group as we've gone forward. I think safety has become
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: like a talking point, but more in a scarier fashion,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: and the corners have become a talking point but more
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: than like.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: A fun like oh my god, this embarrassment of riches. Yeah,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: it's it's definitely an interesting vibe going on at corner
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: because it's the funny thing too, is like nationally, no
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: one cares about our corners. Nationally, no one has a clue,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: and they're like the bills are weak in the secondary,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: and it's like, well, safeties have some concern.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: Nobody knows Christian, Yeah, are.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: Actually kind of just hidden national national and they're all
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: fairly sufficient.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny too because I keep seeing all these
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: like the people at PFF and like all these like
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: data scientists, people keep posting all these charts for like coverage.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: I showed one of them last week, that separation one.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: There's so many like that, and all of them, literally
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: all of them, they're different, all have like Christian Benford
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: in the quadrant with like sauce gardener and likening and
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: like all these doing and not one person is.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Like should I go watch Christian If you don't, yeah,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: if you don't watch the tape, Like I would never
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: go out on a ledge for Christian Bedford. It's just
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: it's not then. It's a sixth round rookie from Villanosa and.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: It's not like he had like seven interceptions or something.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have these eye popping moments. Like he's just
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: a solid dude.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: He's very solid, like very dependable when he's on the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: field and healthy. So it's it's tough to stick your
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: neck out for him if you're a national guy.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: It's just funny, though I would have thought somebody would
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: have connected the dots, like no pun intended for those
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: parts and like they're waiting for more sample. But like
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: even with that, like I just wanted one person to
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: be like this guy keeps popping. Let me go watch
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: the tape and be like, oh okay, Like that cover
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: three rep where he picks off Tua when he's covering
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill in week eighteen where he splits I think
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: he splits Hill and Cedric Wilson and Hill is in
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: the slot they send him on that cheat emotion. He
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: splits them both sees that the ball is going to
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: hill and granted to underthrows it a bit. Yeah, he
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: comes over the top.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Of the positioning like if he wasn't in that position,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: he couldn't capitalize on the mistake of the slightly poor throw.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just uh man ooh wald, he says. I
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: love that Aunt seemingly has a Bills Players to Fight
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: list equip with rankings that is like a it's every year,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: it's fuddy. I hate coming to these realizations like as
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: the season is coming through, because now once the season
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: is starting, like you have the content, the schedule in
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: the rhythm. This is very much like an off season
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: episode content of like let's rank the top ten dudes
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't want to fight, and the top ten dudes
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: are like the top five we wouldn't want to fight,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: and the top five we would. And yeah, it's just
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: I thought of it the other day literally just because
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: of watching him jam the hell out of that receiver,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Like he's just yeah, he's just a dude that's gonna
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: get at you.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: I like this claude with a tremendous casino reference. He says,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: aunt Ingram is Nicki and Casino. If you beat him
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: with hands, he'll come back with a bat. If you
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: win with a bat, he'll come back with knives. And
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: then have you ever seen casino? I haven't all, And
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: then the quote goes on from there. It's like, if
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: you beat him with a knife, he'll come back with
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: a gun. If you come at Nicki with a gun,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: you better kill him. I know Nicki is Nicky's played
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: by Joe Pesci.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: Casino. That's where the blueberries line in the beginning of
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: the show.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Oh right, I did know that.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, de Niro is running the casino and his cook
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: is not.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: He It's so random, like de Niro is eating breakfast
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: with like somebody important and the guy's talking to him,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: and de Niro like cuts open his muffin and the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: blueberries are like not if even So he goes back
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: to the cook and is like, from now on, an
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: equal amount of blueberries in each muffet.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: It's both of them.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: He stops the guy talking and he's like, look how
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: many blueberries your muffin has and look at mine. I
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: have none, And he's like, come on, and he takes
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: them back to the kitchen to yell with the chef.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Well done, Claude, Claude, you win this episode. You win
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: this episode for this comment you just made this day
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: you did. Casino is a top five movie of all
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: time for me. I've seen it probably over fifty five
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: sixty times. It's my favorite.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Mom I'm gonna have to start number one. Watch dude.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: It's you know what's funny too, is it's one of
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: those movies that, like, oh I love this, Actually I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: just watched I rewatched Casino two weeks ago.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: It's one of those movies that, like, if you have
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: the movie channels.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Like they play it on like the Stars all the time,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: or like Showtime, one of those types of things. It's
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: it's the way like TNT plays the Accountant that movie
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: with Ben Affleck, like every frigging week, no matter what,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: at like ten o'clock on like a Thursday or like Wednesday.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Casino.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: We all know the shows, we all know the movies.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: They're everywhere, they're and everywhere.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta watch Casino. Casino is a good one.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: Well done, Claude.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: Anything else anything to watch for a player?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: A niche aspect to coach anything or everything that is
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: on your mind potentially, No, I.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Mean, if we're going broad again. Yeah, it just goes
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: back to urgency. I don't want to say prep because
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: it's just preseason. It's it's really just about being ready
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: and urgent for your next opponent. And I feel like
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: they're gonna come out with a level of urgency that's
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: definitely gonna be different from Game one. And obviously that
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: all starts with McDermott and then how they execute this
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: week in this joint practice setting. I think it's a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: really good opportunity for them to improve over the next
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: four days or so. So I think it's going to
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: be a different vibe from the Bills. I think. I
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: don't think we're gonna see them come out as flat
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: as we saw.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: I hope so. And I you know, you and I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: talked about it going into the start of the post
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: game show with just like how the Bills looked and
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: like not ready to play in the physicality aspect, and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: then tying it into what off season schedules are like
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: now added practices of hitting and tackling and physicality and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So I think I think
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: these joint practices like really are a godsend. I think
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: they wrapped up the intensity, like I don't want anybody
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: getting hurt.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: But like I loved watching.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: All the Lions Giants fights last week, like it shows
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: people want it.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: They're competitive.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, and I just missed that.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Like again, I know player safety is better now we're
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: all in the league, but I just again this is
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: probably another Boomber take like back in my day, but
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: I just remember growing up and how important and intense
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: to a days were, like the idea of like two
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: a days or everything, and that's when like teams become
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: a team and physicality and the intensity and I even
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: remember like little things like the Jaguars used to have
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: their practices at night because it was too hot during
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: the day and between the heat and the physicality, like
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: they couldn't practice during the day, and like it just
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: there was so much more intensity, and I think and
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: again the league was played differently back then. Yeah, stylistically
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: in the rules, but I you know, tack we talk
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: about it every year, like tackling gets worse, it seems
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: like every single year, and it's like they're trying to
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: teach new techniques and things to be able to tackle
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: but still be safe, and it just seems like a
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: lot of it. And again, I am all for player safety,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: but so much of this game at its core is
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: get big and strong, put on equipment, and slam your
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: body into another dude who's also trying to get big
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: and strong wearing equipment. Like, you can't remove that physicality,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: and I don't want anybody getting hurt.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: But trying that is the core, yeah, like mechanic of
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: this game.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so trying to remove that is tough, and it's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I know so many people are like, noah, dude,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: I want to see touchdowns. I want to see you know,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: games that are forty five thirty five, And I'm over
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: here being like, no, give me a seventeen to ten
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: game where like the corners fit in the run and
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: up ending and running back.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hearing somebody like.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: I'm actually exciting because it's rare when you get points.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: It means something more when points are earned.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want that kind of you know, make defense
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: great again type of thing. Give me a good, old fashioned,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: like big ten football game.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Where it's oh, no, watching too much. Iowa, no, bro,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: That's where.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: I draw the line there are there there's a difference
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: between good defense and bad iola. Yes, in Iowa, I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: want to see good defense. And and again I think
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: something is to that. Like you you don't want kind
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: of friendly fire happening in camps, so you try to
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: limit that and limit physicality. But when you go to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: these joint practices, even if you're trying to be safe,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: that intensity gets ratchet up. Dude, start popping pads and
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: throwing the hands a little bit. So I'm interested to see, yeah,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: how how those joint practices go in a vacuum for
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: themselves in and of itself, but also how that leads
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: into the game, how that transitioned transitions into the game
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: against the Steelers, and especially, like we said, for a
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: team like the Bills who did not bring it in
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: week one of the preseason against the Bears. Anything else
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: on your mind before we start to wind down a
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: little bit, kind of nah, that's it beautiful, all right.
• 1:19:51
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  Speaker 1: in my humble opinion. And I don't say that because
• 1:19:59
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• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw up the banner that says tootles folks,
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  Speaker 1: asho start to wind down when we have this comment
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: from Zach's Back in my day, we had our leg
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: cut off on the job.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: It still came to work the next day. These young
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: ones wouldn't get it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I was talking to I
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: was at a baptism Sunday and I was talking to
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: and then we had like a barbecue after and I
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: was talking to my buddy's dad and we were talking about,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: like because he played football, and you were talking about
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: what football was like in the seventies and eighties and
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: all those things. And the thing that he was talking
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: about was like they used to purposefully deny you water
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: because like that was the sign of weakness, like you
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: didn't need water. And I remember my dad telling me
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: what coaches used to tell him was, you wouldn't put
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: cold water on a hot engine in a car, so
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: why would you put cold water in a hot body.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: During a practice?
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like, the how bad the science was
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: back then was just wild. And it's so funny some
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: of the back in my day stuff that was like
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: legit of like, yeah, we're not giving our players water
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: because that's that's weakness.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: Like that's for quickers. You want water.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: That's for your equitter. It's just like man like how
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: things had changed a little bit. Oh and I got
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: to bring up this from Roy. Roy says he's never
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: seen casino, which is fine. Can let's see you that
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: it happened. He said, I've never seen casino. I've never
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: had one pipe pizza. I haven't had chicken wings in
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: over forty years.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: I'm a mess.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I have a bit of a hot take. I'm not
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: a big chicken wing guy.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: How dare you?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: I don't mind them. I'm cool eating. I mean I
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: do have favorite chicken wing spot.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: There's not like uh, readily available craving that.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: You're a no, And I would much rather do chicken
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: fingers or like boneless chicken bites like that which dart
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: like anything.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Like it's I think it's me. It's not chicken wings.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I hate like and especially because I'm a
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: barbecue guy.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: So then like my hands are all barbecue e I
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: gotta do the thing where like if I want to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: drink my glass, I gotta grab it with my palms,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: like do this then like I'm trying to be a lot.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's better at home. But then of
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: course you can't make wings. No art better at home,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: They're usually better.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Like, yes, I am, I am a drums guy exactly.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: I'm a drums guy over flats guys. I think the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: meat is better on the drum like the flat. I
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: never feel like I get the meat out properly, Like
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: it's just like I feel like there's so much going on.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: And I'm also like a big lee a lot. Yes,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: I'm also a big blue cheese guy.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: So the drum is perfect so I can like dip
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: the chunk in or I can rip the chunk out,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: dip and eat like I feel like it's hard to
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: put a flat into the blue cheese. It is. Ye,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: this is a guy like this fromald. She said, I'm
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: gonna do your favorite and forget you said all this.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: I will go out like me and my boys are
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: like going out weird. Yeah, like will do wings.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: And I grew up on man, they don't don't think
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: they even do it in buffal anymore.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: I remember like the spots that would do like twenty
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: five cent wing night Tuesdays and we'd go and house
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: like fifty wings. Like I like wings, but I don't
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: like love them. And if if my option is pizza
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: or wings. I'm taking pizza one thousand percent every single
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: day of the week, Like it's not even close.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: This isn't to say you don't like wings. This is
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: to say you have a lot of gripes with it.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm not I'm just not a big and
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: I think some of it for me, especially like living
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: in New York City for nine years, like people, oh
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: you're from Buck and like the two things are always
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: like haha, the bills suck. And then the other thing
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: was always like, oh, like do you love chicken wings?
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm always like they're all right, like their chicken wings.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: It's more to Buffalo than chicken. It's fair, Zach said,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: wind up, both, there can be both. I'm a big
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: like pizza and wings guy, but if I have to
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: pick one or even like, so, say say we're doing something,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: say we're having like a family get together or having
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: a party or something, we're doing pizza and wings. I'm
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: definitely gonna get like three or four slices of pizza
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: and maybe like five wings if that like, I'm gonna
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: rock the pizza first, and if I still want some wings,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: I'll go get some.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: But just pizza trumps the wings for me.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, I get it. If this is the preseason, these
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: comments don't matter. That's fair.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all just getting in form. We're all just
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: getting in form.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Roy says boneless quote unquote boneless chicken wings. Otherwise there's
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: no meat. Yeah, it's just almost chicken fingers are my
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: top thing. You give me a good like dry rub
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: chicken finger.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, it goes for the dry rub.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, if you get a dry give me a
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: dry rub chicken finger and then glaze me some barbecue
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: sauce on it, and then also give me a cup
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: of blue cheese. That's what I'm rocking up. Boy Pop
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: says boneless wings or nuggets. That's fine, give me a
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: chicken nugget. I'm cool with a chicken nuggets.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Everyone's description of like what a boneless chicken wing actually is,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: like even allowed to say chicken wing When I say boneless,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: So, Yeah, it's fine.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: Give me.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Give me a chicken nugget. If you want to put
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: it in the shape of a dinosaur, I'll take that
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: as well, Right, I don't. I'll take some time on nuggets.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: It all goes down the same. It's all the same process.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: Oh I missed.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Appreciate this from Teddy. Thank you very much for being
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: here and thank you for the super chat. Teddy says,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: Aunt my favorite Buffalo sports personality. Cheers brother, Thank you
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: very much, Teddy.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: That's awesome. I appreciate you.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the kind words and the
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: super chatt and for being here. Tangning just says, the
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: best wings are dinosaur.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I do.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: Like if I go to bar Bill, I'll get some wings,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: but their chicken fingers. They do a barbecue rub that
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: is so good, and I know everybody's.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: Like the buffalo the wings are good, man? What is
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: I think?
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: What is it the somebody I guarantee somebody in the
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: check goes to barbela punch. What's the wing? Well, what's
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: the one that everybody loves at Barbill? I think that
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: josh Anas like the cage butter, Yeah, something like that.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: I know it's honey butter. I know that much is in.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: I think it's Cajun honey butter.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: They're good. I'm just a barbecue guy, like I love
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: all down dairy wall just as boldness. Wings have a
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: non contact. No pans of chicken. That's very good, oh,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: Zach Neil, Yeah, Cajun honey, butter barbecue.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: Barbecue in there, Okay, well done. Are a lot of flavors.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: That is a lot of flavors in one. They're delicious, though.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Kendles are just as Kendalls is big on Dinal nuggets
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: and a Caprice Son. Oh I ever got the Caprice
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Son jokes.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand how anyone like, look, I
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: understand we all grow up, but you never grow out
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: of that. Like I was gonna say, I don't know
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: what Caprice Son like. You're not growing out of that.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: We're all just down.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: If I had somebody, if one of my friends like.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Look, if it's every day, you got to turn it
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: down one, it's just not good for you.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: But if I offered somebody like Dino nuggets and a
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Caprice Son and they were like, no thanks, I'd be like.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at them with like a Sideway's face.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, this this guy is a little strange.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: What's going on.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: I went to my niece's birthday party like a couple
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: months ago, and they had like it was like a
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: bunch of families. So we had like a whole bunch
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: of coolers and you had like pop in one and
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: like waters and alcoholic stuff, and then another one with
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: a bunch of Caprice son and juice boxes. I house
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: like four caprice Sons, Like they're fantastic, even though they
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: changed them since we were little, because they tried to
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  Speaker 1: remove the sugar. Oh, trying to remove my day. Yeah,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: back of course, back in my day. Trying to remove
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  Speaker 1: the sugar from a Caprice Son is like trying to
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: take the physicality out of football. Like, no one's drinking
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: the caprice Son for the natural juice and the health
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: they're drinking because it's like three percent fruit juice and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: ninety seven.
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  Speaker 4: Percent just drink it for the pouch, all the pouches.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you gotta stab the pouch sometimes hard to
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: get in there. Jason has a good comedy. He says
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  Speaker 1: Kendall is using that deaging technology they used on Robert
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: de Niro.
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  Speaker 4: And the Irishman. No way, it's a year later and
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: he looks younger.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair, oh, Jason, with another one saying
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: you don't go out of nuggets and caprice and until
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: a woman lives with you, and you were trying to
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  Speaker 1: pretend you are sophisticated.
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  Speaker 4: I second, as a married man, I second that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and see you revert after you get married and
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  Speaker 2: you're comfortable with one another in your life.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to Costco for one hundred capriso.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: That's when I come home from grocery shopping and she
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: is putting everything away, and she says, you got pizza
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  Speaker 1: roles again, And I'm like, yep, that's just.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Just a big kid over here trying to live life.
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  Speaker 1: They're just they're just sometimes you just need a pizza role.
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna get heart burned. I know they're terrible.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to know what's in them.
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  Speaker 4: They're delicious. A good God, it's fantastic.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: A good Saturday afternoon in like October, watching college football
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: all day and then cracking like a good IBC roopier
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  Speaker 1: and some pizza rolls man man man oh zach covid.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Seeing if somebody won't accept it, I know, nuggets and
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: a caprice sun means that person has the soul sunned
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  Speaker 1: out of him.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: We've all lived once.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: That's right. I like this too, married men walk around
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: in their boxers drinking caprice son. Oh man, we have tankness.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I buy lunchables to bring back memories of fifth
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  Speaker 1: grade science camp. I was never a lunchibles guy.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: Did I've done this recently? I've literally done this recently
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: where I was like, I passed it. It's been so long.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: I have memories of this. It's it's got to be done,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: it's got to be done.
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  Speaker 4: What did I do recently?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: I got some of the you ever had, like the
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: honey wheat pretzels.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, wait, the pretzel sticks.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the braided twists like the honey wheat ones. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I had those like three weeks ago. They were delicious,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: but that brought me back to being like my childhood.
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  Speaker 2: I love those.
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  Speaker 4: I would eat the role gold ones like a million
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: times a year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those are problematic. If you buy those ones, you
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: keep looking for them every time you go back there.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, you can't stop that.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: You can't stop. I don't know if I'm gonna lead
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: like title this closing thoughts or if I'm really gonna
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: kind of detail. Yeah, food ramp off the rails about
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: food stuff, Yes, zack of all trades that yeah. Ooh
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: those pretzels all they hit those honey, those honey wheat twists.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what brand you get. You could
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: get like really old gold ones.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: Or they could get knock off ones. I get the
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: Snyder's ones.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Oh good, GoF Snyders makes a good pretzel. Oh rices
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I work at Craft, I get free lunchable sometimes. Oh No,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: I want to give me the thing I love from Kraft.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: The character Mac and Cheese is like the Scooby Doo
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Mac and Cheese, SpongeBob mac and Cheese. The the cheese
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's real. It's basically powder,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: but like the noodle cheese ratio and combination, it just
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: hits different. The Craft character Mac and Cheese is amazing.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: I would think you've learned in the last ten minutes
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: as an audience, and I'm I'm part of the audience
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: at this point, is that Anthony has a lot of
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: strong feelings about the things that go into his body,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: most importantly the food. There's a particular way about how fair.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: But there's there's a particularness about food ingestion that we've
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: all just learned recently.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: No, I just have rankings for things everybody has rankings,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Like everybody loves a certain kind of mac and cheese.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Some people through the preparation style of chicken wings and
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: which type of chicken wings. It's all very specific that
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: but that.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Will know as a Buffalo person that one that's actually
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: that has to be classified. If we were doing a
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: show in like Iowa, I would do that because I'd
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: be like nobody cares like. But as a as a
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: Buffalo person, if you say anything about chicken wings, like
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like you have to.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: Con to explain yourself.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, because everyone's gonna be like, what do you mean,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: like you don't have a chicken wing tattooed on your face?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: What do you mean you don't love them like you're
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: from Buffalo. Royce says, we don't do mac and cheese
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: at the planet I work at. That's just wow.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: That is tough. That's fair stuff, that's fair.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: We really got off the rails here.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: This is a good time. This is a good time.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: There's no better way to get ready for Bill Steelers
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: than talking about chicken wings, mac and cheeses, lunchables, caprice sons,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: and tiny nuggets.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: We covered the gambit, we did.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: We hit everything.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: This is a really good one.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: Any parting thoughts for the people before we say go bye.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: Now, everyone just revisit their childhood and make yourself happy.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: I would say, everybody go out and grocery shop tomorrow
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: and get something that makes you feel one thing that
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: makes you feel like, yeah.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: Something that you're nostalgic for.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Go do it.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: It's good to do those things every once in a while.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: This is a really fun episode.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: It was nice to have you back for the third
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: episode in a row talking Bill Steelers and you know,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: a potential for as much as there can be like
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: a right game in the preseason, this kind of maybe
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: might be that for the Buffalo Day and I don't
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: want to because I don't know if I holistically believe
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, so we'll see kind of what happens,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, detailing who and what to watch we're
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: going into this game. This was a really fun time.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: So thank you very much Kendall for taking the time
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: and joining me again.
• 1:32:57
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  Speaker 4: Oh, this is a nice call back to being a kid.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: Royce as a slinky. Yeah, I have a sinky right there,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: I have a rainbow slinky right there.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: Howses the little Walt Disney World Football.
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  Speaker 4: I'm right there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, good job, Roy, way to bring it back.
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  Speaker 1: Well done. Appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: Claude, thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed the show.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much. To you again, Kendall, thank
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• 1:34:19
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• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: watching it later, listening, downloading, whatever have you.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: Greatly appreciate that, so.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Roy says, fifty three roster man
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: projection next week. I'm trying to figure out where to
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: work it in.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be before before, like way before. But
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: there's yeah, there's definitely a prime moment.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: The I think the roster cut down is Tuesday to
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: tuesdays from now is roster cut down day, but usually
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: teams start cutting down on that Sunday. So like the
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: last Bills game is next Saturday. So they played the
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Steelers this week, then they play the Panthers the following Saturday.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: They I start part of the postgame show for correctit
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: like honestly, it might be. I think that's when you
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: should do it. Yeah, it's August the twenty seventh. Last
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: Game is the twenty fourth. I think you're gonna have
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: to do it on the post Game show. Yeah, so
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure that out. I don't know if
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: it's going to be the episode next Tuesday, or if
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: it's going to be part of the post Game after
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: the Panthers, or maybe going live early Sunday.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: To do a projection show.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: I want to do it in some form or fashion.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: I've never done one. I've never been a roster projection person,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: but I kind of like to.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: It's fun, but it's a little nitty gritty because you've
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: got to look into the history of what like McDermott
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: is kept and stuff like that.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: So it deals with the player evaluation, player performance, history, contracts,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: all those pieces. So it is a fun exercise, but
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: it does take a little bit. So yeah, good question, Roy.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where I would like.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: To do one.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: I just need to figure out when and where how
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: to work it in and then also tying it into too,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Like I'm assuming like a lot of other people on
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: the network are going to be doing a roster projection. Yeah,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: I don't another one that's lost in the shuffle, I
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: actually think if I'm correct, Yeah, I think the show
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: before me, Joe de Rosa when he did his Under
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Review show, that was a roster projection show. So I
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: don't wanted to do. Pop says I need a dry
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: e race board for the fifty three projection. Yeah. Oh,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: I just just get a giant dryer race.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: Board to do it that way, like a fantasy draft.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: It'd be kind of cool. So yeah, good question, Roy,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate you asking that. I am trying to
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: work it in specifically for myself and the show. I
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: just got to figure out when and where and how
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Oh, Roy says, do
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: a clab maybe, yeah, maybe we'll do a network one
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: that might be kind of I would.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna kick some ideas around.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do kind of like a cover one Roster
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Projection super Show episode on that Sunday afternoon or something
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: like that to kind of figure that out.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: Good question, and well done, Kendall.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: When I seen a little alley up there, good teamwork.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Anything else or should we say bye?
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: I think that's it from us copy that.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: I think that'll be it from us again. Hope you
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: and your family and friends and loved ones are doing
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: well and staying safe. Be kind of one another, take
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: care of one another. Thank you very much to everybody
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: who tune into the show live, post live, download, listen, view,
• 1:37:03
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• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: super chat.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: Take care, be kind to one another. God speed.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow Wednesday, August fourteenth, for an episode
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: of the Cover One Film Room, and then I will
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: see you Saturday night immediately following Bill Steelers for another
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: special edition postgame edition of Disguised Coverage, and then back
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  Speaker 1: live next Tuesday, nine pm Eastern for a regular scheduled
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: edition of Disguised Coverage. But that I'll do it for
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  Speaker 1: us here on this show for Kendall Mursky, I'm Anthony Preaska.
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  Speaker 4: This has been another episode of Disguised Coverage.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: God speed and as always go Bill's