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The Kenny Report | 14 October · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 3: This is day one of the next phase, Day one
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  Speaker 3: of a period where Israel has no living hostages in
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  Speaker 3: the hands of Hummas. Tonight I'll look at how the
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  Speaker 3: Albaneze government used the Middle East News.
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  Speaker 2: To take out the trash as they say.
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  Speaker 3: I'll cross to Israel's deputy Foreign Minister as well, and
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  Speaker 3: also an Aussie Holocaust survivor who's watching peace break out,
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  Speaker 3: Kristen Tate in the US, on how Donald Trump's being
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  Speaker 3: praised far and wide. Also, I'll be joined by Tim Blair,
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  Speaker 3: Zoey Mackenzie, Stephen Senna Tiempo, and Suzi O'Brien.
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  Speaker 2: So much to talk about. Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 3: Lots more on the Middle East tonight, but first let
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  Speaker 3: me focus on our federal government and their own cynical
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  Speaker 3: politics stuff I didn't have time for last night. After
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  Speaker 3: a year or more of criticism and controversy and digging
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  Speaker 3: over their terrible super tax grab, the Albanezy government made
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  Speaker 3: a stunning back down yesterday. They will not, after all,
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  Speaker 3: tax unrealized gains. That is, they won't tax people for
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  Speaker 3: the theoretical gains in their super funds before they've actually
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  Speaker 3: sold their house or shares or whatever assets and realized
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  Speaker 3: a profit.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of the worst, most unfair.
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  Speaker 3: And economically ignorant tax proposals ever made, and have effectively
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  Speaker 3: admitted that by finally scrapping that provision. But they deliberately
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  Speaker 3: chose yesterday to announce it a day when they knew
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  Speaker 3: the whole world would be focused on peace in Gaza
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  Speaker 3: and the return of the Israeli hostages.
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  Speaker 2: So get this.
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  Speaker 3: UMAs used the Israeli hostages for more than two years
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  Speaker 3: as human shields for their terrorist operations, and our government
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  Speaker 3: is so lacking in class and transparency that he'd used
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  Speaker 3: the release of the hostages as a political shield for
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  Speaker 3: the announcement of their super tax backdown. How horribly cynical
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  Speaker 3: and cowardly. And by the way, I think it's shameful
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  Speaker 3: that the Prime Minister is out of the country at
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  Speaker 3: the moment. He left the country on the weekend for
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  Speaker 3: a tropical holiday. Labor was so brutal about Scott Morrison
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  Speaker 3: holidaying in Hawaii when he was Prime Minister, and as
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  Speaker 3: I said then, it was a mistake for the PM
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  Speaker 3: to holiday overseas, and now Albow does the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's not as if he's not overseas enough. Ab Albow.
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  Speaker 3: They call him and he's off to Washington next week again.
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  Speaker 3: Yet he needs to holiday overseas, apparently, just when the
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  Speaker 3: Middle East peace deal is happening, just when the Australian
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  Speaker 3: Jewish community gets something to celebrate after two years of
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  Speaker 3: horrendous antisemitism that's been une checked here under Albanese's watch.
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  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister should be fronting up this week to
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  Speaker 3: show solidarity with the Jewish community, admit he was wrong
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  Speaker 3: to abandon the US and Israel in their strong military
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  Speaker 3: and diplomatic strategy, and to answer for his super backdown. Instead,
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  Speaker 3: he's out of the country spending his holiday dollars overseas.
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  Speaker 3: Prime ministers should holiday in Australia. They spend enough time
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  Speaker 3: overseas and should be at home and on hand for
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  Speaker 3: the country as often as possible. Just on this pin,
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  Speaker 3: I've worn it for the hostages, a little pin of
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  Speaker 3: friendship between Australia and Israel.
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  Speaker 2: There two flags.
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  Speaker 3: It was given to me by then Australian Jewish Association
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  Speaker 3: chief David Adler after this interview on the six month
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  Speaker 3: anniversary of the tobe of the seventh atrocities. He gave
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  Speaker 3: it to me in the ad break and I said
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  Speaker 3: this afterwards. I have on my lapel now an Australia
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  Speaker 3: Israel Friendship badge courtesy of Dava. I'm very happy to
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  Speaker 3: wear that, especially to Donna on this sad anniversary six
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  Speaker 3: months on from October the seventh, and I'll leave that
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  Speaker 3: on until all those hostages are freed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now more than two years later, seven hundred and
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  Speaker 3: thirty eight days after the atrocities, all of the living
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  Speaker 3: hostages are back and a warning. Even two years on,
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  Speaker 3: some of this vision is still distressing to have a
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  Speaker 3: look at. But I want to show you again hostages
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  Speaker 3: like Noah Agami, whose capture was videotape videotaped at the
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  Speaker 3: time while she was taken off on a motorbike, her
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  Speaker 3: partner Rvi Or was taken away by other terrorists.
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  Speaker 2: We feared we'd never see them again.
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  Speaker 3: Noah was rescued more than a year ago and Arvi
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  Speaker 3: was released yesterday, so they were reunited in Israel yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Also released yesterday and embraced by his family was Nimrod Cohen.
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  Speaker 3: I met his mother, Vicki in Israel earlier this year,
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  Speaker 3: and we spoke with her on the show in June.
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  Speaker 3: Prospects looked grim at the time, but now the Cohen
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  Speaker 3: family is reunited. Just brilliant scenes, so heartwarming. So all
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  Speaker 3: the living hostages are back. It's time to take this
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  Speaker 3: badge off. I'm happy to take it off now. It
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  Speaker 3: means that it means that something good has happened. It's
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  Speaker 3: it means that something just has happened. It means that
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  Speaker 3: something has been made right. But we can never forget
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  Speaker 3: the twelve hundred victims on the day of October the seventh,
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  Speaker 3: nor the one hundred the one hundred hostages who were
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  Speaker 3: killed while in the hands of Hummas. People like Shiri Bibas,
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  Speaker 3: a young mother and to two redheaded boys, Ariel just
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  Speaker 3: four and Kafir, just nine months old, murdered by Hummus.
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  Speaker 3: And neither should we forget the Palestinian civilians killed in
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  Speaker 3: this war, deliberately imperiled by Hummas to further Hummus's Islamist
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  Speaker 3: extremist goals. Those Palestinians, too, are not the victims of Israel,
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  Speaker 3: which went to extraordinary lengths to avoid civilian casualties. They
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  Speaker 3: are in fact, just more victims of Hummus. So I
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  Speaker 3: want to say something to the pro Palestinian protesters in
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  Speaker 3: the West, the anti Israeli protesters here in Australia, and
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  Speaker 3: the politicians like our own Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi and
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  Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Pennywong, who effectively have done their bidding, caved
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  Speaker 3: in to their demands by recognizing the non existent state
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  Speaker 3: of Palestine and breaking with the US and Israeli st
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  Speaker 3: strategy of confronting hummas. The protesters say they want peace,
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  Speaker 3: the politicians say they want a two state solution, but
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  Speaker 3: the reality at the heart of the protest movement is
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  Speaker 3: really something more hateful.
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  Speaker 2: They want to get rid of Israel. As we heard
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  Speaker 2: on the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: As long as Israel exists a genocidal and apartheid regime,
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  Speaker 4: there will not be peace for the Palestinian people.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, So, now that the guns have been silenced and
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  Speaker 3: we hope for and enduring peace, we have to consider
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  Speaker 3: outcomes after all that death and destruction, after the slaughter
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  Speaker 3: of Israelis, the hostage deaths, military casualties, and up to
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  Speaker 3: sixty thousand Gharzans.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps up to half of them hum us terrorists.
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  Speaker 3: But undoubtedly thousands of civilian casualties, including children. Well, we
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  Speaker 3: have to ask what did hum Us achieve. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: look at Gaza. Large parts of it are level, so
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  Speaker 3: it's people are homeless, just living day to day and
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  Speaker 3: getting shelter and healthcare and food and water and electricity
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  Speaker 3: will be a challenge for many more months to come.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if the.
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  Speaker 3: Peace holds, Gaza will be able to rebuild and it
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  Speaker 3: will be autonomous, it'll run its own affairs. But that's
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  Speaker 3: what they had before all of this started. Israel withdrew
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  Speaker 3: from Gaza in two thousand and five. Their army had
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  Speaker 3: to forcibly remove Jewish families who were determined to stay there.
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  Speaker 3: And so the Palestinians have had Gaza for two decades.
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  Speaker 3: Tragically they elected Humas and they were never able to
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  Speaker 3: shake off these Islamist extremist fanatics and two years of
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  Speaker 3: war and thousands of dead Palestinians and the destruction of
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  Speaker 3: homes and infrastructure is the result. So that's what Humas
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  Speaker 3: has delivered. By normal reckoning, by your standards in mind,
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  Speaker 3: you would say Hummas has failed. They've gained nothing from
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  Speaker 3: this Mayem. Gaza has gone backwards except that's not true.
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  Speaker 3: They've gained exactly what they wanted. Their sole aim, remember,
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  Speaker 3: is to eliminate Israel. Haummas's name actually stands for the
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  Speaker 3: Islamic Resistance movement. They exist to get rid of Israel,
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  Speaker 3: and delegitimizing it is a crucial step. So Hummas doesn't
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  Speaker 3: care how many Israeli men, women, and children it kills.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't even care how many Palestinians are killed in
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  Speaker 3: the resultant war.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, it deliberately ensures its.
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  Speaker 3: Own people are killed because it wants Israel to be
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  Speaker 3: a pariah. I mean, as you might have noticed, Hamas
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  Speaker 3: is an army who only ever put on a uniform
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  Speaker 3: when there's a ceasefire. The rest of the time they
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  Speaker 3: pose as civilians. That's what you're dealing with. Hummas feeds
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  Speaker 3: out propaganda about Israel deliberately killing civilians or bombing hospitals
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  Speaker 3: or starving people. It uses the chaos to feed out
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  Speaker 3: those lies, and the Western media goes with the lies
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  Speaker 3: rather than the reality, and Israel is demonized. So if
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  Speaker 3: you wonder what Humas got out of the war, well
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  Speaker 3: you've seen it on our streets. They've got protesters all
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  Speaker 3: over the world turning out against Israel, using the propaganda
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  Speaker 3: to blame Israel for every death, to fuel anti Semitism
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  Speaker 3: and fire up a global political assault based on visceral hatred.
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  Speaker 2: So we will keep fighting.
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  Speaker 4: We will keep fighting until Palatine is free from the
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  Speaker 4: river to the sea.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we've always stood for.
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  Speaker 4: That's why we were protesting long before the past two years,
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  Speaker 4: and why we'll keep protesting until we win liberation for
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  Speaker 4: the Palacinian people and we bring down the imperialist, racist
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  Speaker 4: maniacs that have carried out there's crime against humanity.
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  Speaker 2: Just shocking, isn't it. But that's it.
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  Speaker 3: That's the Hummus paid her and it worked. It led
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  Speaker 3: some national governments, including our own, to criticize Israel, break
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  Speaker 3: with the strategy to defeat HUMMAS and offer up recognition
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  Speaker 3: of a non existent Palestinian state as some sort of appeasement.
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  Speaker 5: The Comwealth of Australia recognizes the state at Palestine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Anthony Albinizi and the protesters and the global media
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  Speaker 3: have given Hummas the outcomes. It was after they demonized
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  Speaker 3: Israel and they isolated it diplomatically. The evil combination of
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  Speaker 3: Hummus murders and lies worked. So that's what I say
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  Speaker 3: to the protesters and their political mates, Well done. You've
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  Speaker 3: been willing dupes for terrorists and you've made sure that
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  Speaker 3: they got something out of this carnage.
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  Speaker 2: And while this time.
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  Speaker 3: The military strength of Israel and the US has prevailed,
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  Speaker 3: the great worry is that Hamas and other Islamist extremist
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  Speaker 3: groups have seen this as the way forward. They've seen
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  Speaker 3: how easily the Western media and political class will forget
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  Speaker 3: terror deaths and even forget hostages and just leap immediately
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  Speaker 3: into slamming Israel, blaming the victims, the political left, our
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  Speaker 3: own government, most of the media, and the protesters have
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  Speaker 3: rewarded terrorism. We just to have to hope now that
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't encourage more.
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  Speaker 2: Just on the media, what do.
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  Speaker 3: You think your taxpayer funded ABC was broadcasting last night
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  Speaker 3: while we gave you that superb Tony Abbott documentary on
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  Speaker 3: Australia's history and rolling live coverage of the historic events
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  Speaker 3: in Israel. Yeah, while we gave you live coverage of
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump speaking at the Knesset in Jerusalem, Middle East
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  Speaker 3: and global history literally being made.
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  Speaker 2: Before our very eyes. Well, the focus at the ABC
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  Speaker 2: was a little more small minded.
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  Speaker 6: At The heart of this story is the integrity of
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  Speaker 6: the highest office in the land, and as accusations of
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  Speaker 6: profiting from the presidency grow, our investigation has brought us here.
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  Speaker 2: We actually make money, but our.
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  Speaker 6: Two seek answers from the President himself.
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  Speaker 3: President Trance, how much wealthier are.
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  Speaker 2: You now than when you return to the White House?
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  Speaker 2: Where are you from?
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  Speaker 4: I'm from the Australian Broadcasting Operation Paul Corners program.
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  Speaker 7: In my opinion, you are hurting Australia very much right now.
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  Speaker 8: But President.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Middle East issues and peace suddenly didn't interest the ABC.
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  Speaker 3: It was more interested in Trump bashing and seeing it
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  Speaker 3: up as being high minded.
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  Speaker 6: Many Americans fear that democracy itself is being threatened. With
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  Speaker 6: a bitterly divided country and growing concerns from both the
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  Speaker 6: left and the right that there may be a breakdown
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  Speaker 6: of social cohesion. It's even more important than ever that
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  Speaker 6: Americans and their allies can trust implicitly in the accountability,
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  Speaker 6: transparency and integrity of the highest office in the land.
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  Speaker 2: Bitterly divided country.
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  Speaker 3: How about the anti Semitism that the ABC has helped
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  Speaker 3: fuel in this country? Could the ABC be any more
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  Speaker 3: undergraduate this after they spent three episodes of Four Corners
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  Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, running a ludicrous conspiracy theory that Trump
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  Speaker 3: was elected because of Russia's Vladimir Putin.
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  Speaker 2: The ABC called it the story of the century.
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  Speaker 3: It was the joke of the set, and they still
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  Speaker 3: have it on their online services. Yesterday's events were so
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  Speaker 3: earth shattering in Israel that the ABC's Media Watch actually
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  Speaker 3: updated its show with information on the day of broadcast,
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  Speaker 3: a rare effort, although the content was too puerile to
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  Speaker 3: be worth that effort.
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  Speaker 9: And what drove the fierce push by Trump to secure
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  Speaker 9: this deal? It might very well have been a desire
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  Speaker 9: to free hostages and disarmed terrorists and maybe even put
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  Speaker 9: an end to a campaign that has killed so many.
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  Speaker 9: But might it also have been a desire for coin,
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  Speaker 9: and by that I mean one coin in particular.
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  Speaker 7: Everyone says that I should get the Nobel Peace Prize
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  Speaker 7: for each one of these achievements.
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  Speaker 2: Alas it was not to be.
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  Speaker 3: Grown adults carrying on like this, but it gets dramatically worse.
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  Speaker 9: And for us in the media, it's a moment to
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  Speaker 9: mark the killing of more than one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 9: of our colleagues in Gaza, felled by Israel's war machine.
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  Speaker 3: Really, these so called journalists were not Hummus operatives, not
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  Speaker 3: terrorists in press vests, as some evidence suggests. And if
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  Speaker 3: journalists or Hummus propagandists were killed, was it because of
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  Speaker 3: Israel's war machine or because Hummus terrorists deliberately triggered and
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  Speaker 3: continued a war they always knew they couldn't win, except
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  Speaker 3: in propaganda terms.
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  Speaker 2: The ABC really is.
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  Speaker 3: A disgrace, which is why Rebel News host Alvi YEMENI
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  Speaker 3: couldn't resist hitting up the ABC's Jerusalem reporter in Hostages
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  Speaker 3: Square yesterday.
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  Speaker 10: You're going to finally report had in shame for the
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  Speaker 10: way that you're reported in the last two years. Much
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  Speaker 10: of the anti submiticate in Australia has to do solely
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  Speaker 10: on your reporting.
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  Speaker 6: How does a.
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  Speaker 10: Film you're here on this historic day thanks to Trump, make.
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  Speaker 2: Sure you're balanced.
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  Speaker 11: ABS has been an absolute joke, absolute joke.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I don't agree with everything Yemen he says and
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  Speaker 3: does for Rebel News, and I think he's a bit
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  Speaker 3: unfair blaming Matt Doran for all of the ABC's coverage,
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  Speaker 3: but he makes entirely valid points calling out ABC lies
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  Speaker 3: and misinformation.
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  Speaker 6: Please then so do you take me back some of
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  Speaker 6: your reporting?
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  Speaker 2: I stand by my reports. So they're starving in Gaza.
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  Speaker 10: Israel was starving the population, but you don't see anyone
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  Speaker 10: starving today there.
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  Speaker 2: You don't see anyone male Chursian.
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  Speaker 10: There today in the footage that was seen to come
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  Speaker 10: out of Gaza. They're celebrating. You also said that they
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  Speaker 10: were intentionally targeting hospitals, which was against international law. You
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  Speaker 10: stand by all that which was fueling anti Semitism in Israel? Really,
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  Speaker 10: can you say that while looking me in the eye?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, why stand by my reporting?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: There is a problem with ABC reporting and bias, and
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  Speaker 3: there's no accountability.
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  Speaker 2: I showed you last week week how the.
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  Speaker 3: ABC boss wouldn't even tell a parliamentary committee about why
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  Speaker 3: they'd failed to report Hummas executions.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be happy to speak to an ABC reporter or news.
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  Speaker 3: Boss or the ABC boss on air here anytime to
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  Speaker 3: discuss their Middle East reporting. They should be accountable and
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  Speaker 3: they should be prepared to defend their own reporting.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure Media Watch won't call out their lives. Let's
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  Speaker 2: catch up now with Zoe Mackenzie.
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  Speaker 3: He's just been promoted to the Shadow Cabinet Secretary Thanks
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  Speaker 3: for joining us at Zoe. Good to catch up with
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  Speaker 3: you from Victoria. Congratulations on that new gig. Just on
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  Speaker 3: the super tax the labour's changes yesterday. Obviously you'll be
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  Speaker 3: pleased that unrealized gains will not be taxed now. But
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  Speaker 3: did they deliberately use the events in the Middle East
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  Speaker 3: to try and make sure this didn't get too much attention?
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  Speaker 1: They absolutely did. Can you believe it?
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  Speaker 13: The time is to go as a holiday leaves the
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  Speaker 13: Treasurer with a hot potato. If if you needed evidence
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  Speaker 13: that things weren't all roses between those two, yesterday would
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  Speaker 13: be it. The treasure has to spend the whole day
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  Speaker 13: backtracking on something that's been in his heart and soul
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  Speaker 13: to press upon the Australian people for the last two years.
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  Speaker 13: And may I say that supertax would have disproportionately hit
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  Speaker 13: the people of the Mornington Peninsula, where my electorate is.
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  Speaker 13: About two percent of superannuation holders down here were in
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  Speaker 13: the frame of that attack more than the people who
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  Speaker 13: were under it were targeted by it in Tasmania. So
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  Speaker 13: it will be a great relief to my small businesses
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  Speaker 13: in particular who often put that part of their property
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  Speaker 13: into that small that self managed superfund and would have
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  Speaker 13: been obliged year on year to come up with cash
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  Speaker 13: for something they won't see potentially for decades. So it's
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  Speaker 13: a real relief locally. But what an extraordinary thing to do. Sure,
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  Speaker 13: just put that on the one when we should all
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  Speaker 13: be focused on the fact that it looks like there
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  Speaker 13: will be peace in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just knew it would be buried in the
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  Speaker 2: new Cybern cycle. Now Charmers.
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  Speaker 3: Jim Chalmers is in front of the media yesterday and
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  Speaker 3: today is very defensive about this. But the key thing
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  Speaker 3: is here is this crazy idea that you would tax
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  Speaker 3: money before it exists, You would tax gains and profits
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  Speaker 3: before they occur.
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  Speaker 2: So apart from fixing up this tax, it must be a.
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  Speaker 3: Great relief that this really dangerous economic or fiscal principle
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  Speaker 3: hasn't been established, because this would have could have flowed
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  Speaker 3: on more broadly.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes it could.
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  Speaker 13: So the notion that you can tax unrealized gains, paper profits,
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  Speaker 13: money you haven't seen yet, money you haven't touched, money
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  Speaker 13: that might evaporate before.
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  Speaker 1: It is actually realized in the future.
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  Speaker 13: The notion that you can tax that was indeed a
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  Speaker 13: very dangerous one brought to you, may I say, by
• 20:54
  Speaker 13: the blokes who've never had a job in the private sector.
• 20:58
  Speaker 13: I said, never had to accumulate wealth and then use
• 21:01
  Speaker 13: it to grow your business and to help your staff
• 21:04
  Speaker 13: and to get ahead. You know, it's straight out of
• 21:07
  Speaker 13: the government. Is the answer to all Ill's book. And
• 21:10
  Speaker 13: when I run out of my money, I'm going to
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: come after yours.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: It's a point.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: It's a point where made that they've never had to
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: deal with a profit or a loss. So a paper
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: profit profit it means nothing to them. They don't know
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: what a profit is. They learned a paper profit. Thanks
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: for joining Uszoe, I appreciate it. Zoe McKenzie there live
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: from the Morning, Morning and Penincula in Victoria. I want
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: to go back to the Middle East now and talk
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: about some of the strategic changes that we're seeing unfold.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I want to catch up again with Jonathan's spire from
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: the Middle East Forum. He's joined us live from Jerusalem.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, Jonathan. Just momentous days yesterday
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: and naturally enough, a lot of focus on what happens next,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: but I want to get your thoughts again because you
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: were one of the first people to point out that
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: that attack by Israel on the Hummas leadership in Qatar
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: was groundshaking, not because it necessarily because of that Hamas
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: leaders couldn't operate safely anywhere, but because it forced Qatar
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: to effectively choose a side. Tell us how that has
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: affected what we've seen in the last forty eight hours,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: that alongside the knocking out of Iran's nuclear and missile
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: weapons facilities.
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think with Chris with regard to kata As,
• 22:23
  Speaker 12: as I indeed have pointed out, kata has been playing
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: a very dangerous double game, not only regarding Israel, but
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: regarding the Middle East as a whole, where it backs
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: terror organizations, insurgent organizations, and then it offers the opponents
• 22:37
  Speaker 12: of those organizations a kind of mediation which in the
• 22:40
  Speaker 12: end ends up benefiting the insurgent organizations themselves. It did
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: this with the Taliban, it did it with Japatan Nusra
• 22:47
  Speaker 12: Islamist group in Syria, It's done it with Hamas. And
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: I do think that Israel's raid on Hamas leadership in
• 22:52
  Speaker 12: Doha did sort of put the cutteries on notice that
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: that's not infinitely sustainable. That you know, people forces noticing
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: this and that cut I will pay certain price for it.
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: I'm not sure the extent which that contributed to the
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: eventual deal. I do think it was a very important
• 23:09
  Speaker 12: step to have taken, and I hope there'll be further
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: steps towards removing that possibility of Cuta's strategy regarding the Iranians. Yeah,
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: it's a very central point. I think we mustn't forget.
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: This wasn't a one front war between Israel and hamas
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: it was at one time in the middle of twenty
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: twenty four at it's height, a seventh front war between
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: Israel and a network of proxy Islamist organizations headed by
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: Islamak Republic of Iran or armed and made and facilitated
• 23:37
  Speaker 12: by Islambag Republic of Iran itself. That's the war that's
• 23:40
  Speaker 12: been fought. At the end of it, and we hope
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: it's very much It has now ended yesterday. The Iran
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: led regional axis is vastly weaker than it was two
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: years ago, and that, to my view at least, is
• 23:51
  Speaker 12: the central achievement of the war that Israel has been
• 23:55
  Speaker 12: engaged in over the last two years.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: And that's also central, of course in getting more Arab
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: support from the Sunni Arab world where they can try
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: and take advantage of this period when around the Keyshia
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: forces on the back foot or disabled to some degree.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I just want to get your thoughts before we go.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: We've got a crowded program tonight, Jonathan, but we know there.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Are going to be many hurdles.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: But already with the peace deal, the dead hostages are
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: not being returned in numbers that are promised. Twenty eight bodies,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: only four have been handed over. Also, Humas are executing
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: more so called collaborators in Gaza. How worried should we
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: be about these developments on the ground right now?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I think we should be concerned.
• 24:39
  Speaker 12: I mean, as we know there's a person Trump had
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: his twenty point plan. You know, we've just had the
• 24:44
  Speaker 12: first phase. I'm very skeptical as to whether the subsequent
• 24:49
  Speaker 12: phases will indeed be correctly or properly carried out. The
• 24:54
  Speaker 12: fact is that Hamas are still there. As we've seen
• 24:56
  Speaker 12: in recent days, it started executing so called collaborators as
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: soon as well pull back from territory. You know, there
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: are a number of unfortunately bodies of hostages which have
• 25:04
  Speaker 12: not yet been returned. How must claims they can't locate them.
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: That very dangerous Islamist actor has been weakened in Gaza.
• 25:12
  Speaker 12: It has not yet been completely destroyed. It's going to
• 25:14
  Speaker 12: continue doing what we know it does. So I think
• 25:16
  Speaker 12: there's you know, much more tension to come at the
• 25:19
  Speaker 12: end of the day. I do hope we can avoid
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: a situation in which we've got you know, four maneuvering
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: divisions inside the Gaza strip. So, yes, conflict and tensions
• 25:27
  Speaker 12: still to come. Hopefully, however, large scale war absent at
• 25:30
  Speaker 12: least another Black Swan event can be avoided in the
• 25:33
  Speaker 12: period ahead.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Indeed, thanks so much for joining us, Jonathan. Jonathan Spire there,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Middle East Expert live from Jerusalem. We're going to get
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: to a break on the other side. I'm going to
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: catch up with an Aussie Holocaust survivor who's in Israel
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: watching peace breakout. I'm going to catch up in a
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: moment with an Australian the Holocaust survivor who we've met before.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: She happens to be in Israel while all this is
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Here's a reminder of what was un fre in Hostages
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Square in central Tel Aviv yesterday.
• 26:04
  Speaker 14: Tie those vehicles we understand are the first batch of
• 26:07
  Speaker 14: Israedy hostages. So these are the first pictures of the
• 26:11
  Speaker 14: vehicles carrying that batch out of Gaza.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Let's now go to Susie Smede Ozzie Holocaust survivor in
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Israel at the moment.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: You must be just amazed at the timing.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: SUSI to be in Israel while there's so much joy
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and celebration.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I could not believe.
• 26:37
  Speaker 15: What has been happening while we were here in Israel
• 26:40
  Speaker 15: was quite by accident that we happened to be coming.
• 26:43
  Speaker 15: And the joy and the exuberation and the excitement that
• 26:50
  Speaker 15: is happening here.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: In Israel at the moment.
• 26:52
  Speaker 15: And we've got to thank Donald Trump for what he's done,
• 26:55
  Speaker 15: which no one else could have done. But I was
• 26:59
  Speaker 15: at the Nova site yesterday as the helicopters were flying
• 27:03
  Speaker 15: over with the hostages and everybody was cheering. There were
• 27:07
  Speaker 15: flags everywhere. The country is celebrating because as you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 15: as Jews, we celebrate life where we want to save
• 27:17
  Speaker 15: every single life we can. And it's just been the
• 27:21
  Speaker 15: most exhilarating time. And I've met so many wonderful people
• 27:26
  Speaker 15: and hugged by so many people that have been in
• 27:29
  Speaker 15: tears all the time. It has been just the most
• 27:32
  Speaker 15: amazing time to be here in Israel.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Can say.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I just want to point out to our viewers that
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: you've seen live pictures there from Washington, the bottom corner
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: of the screen where President Trump has just landed back
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: in the United States after this momentous mission of him
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: of his where he spent so long in Israel and
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: then in Egypt on this peace plan, and then flying
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: straight back to the US. Now, Susie, I just wanted
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: to point out that we've had you on the program
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: before to talk about the horrible rise of anti Semitism
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: in Australia and how that brought back to you. It
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: has brought back to you and your community the memories
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: of the Holocaust that you thought the world would never
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: see again. Give me your reflections on being down in
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: southern Israel where the atrocities occurred, seeing that nova sight
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: with all of its Australian eucalyptus trees, but all of
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: these horrible.
• 28:23
  Speaker 15: Memories Australia, Chris, it's been amazing. I've had a trip
• 28:29
  Speaker 15: round not just there to the sites, but also to
• 28:32
  Speaker 15: the borders areas, and we must never forget what has
• 28:37
  Speaker 15: happened the horror that happened here on the seventh of October.
• 28:44
  Speaker 15: When you're showing the cars, there were one four hundred
• 28:48
  Speaker 15: cars burned. There had to be doctors, forensic doctors in
• 28:52
  Speaker 15: there trying to identify the bodies. I was in a
• 28:55
  Speaker 15: town called so yesterday, yes very thirty hour, a thirty
• 29:03
  Speaker 15: hour gunfight over the police station.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: There are.
• 29:09
  Speaker 15: Kibbutzers that people have not gone back to still because
• 29:14
  Speaker 15: they've been terrified. And people think that the seventh of
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: October was just a very small area. It was a
• 29:21
  Speaker 15: seventy killer meter long battle. It went not just at
• 29:28
  Speaker 15: the Nova festival in a few places. It went to.
• 29:32
  Speaker 15: They came in, they attacked kibbutzer's, they attacked towns. I
• 29:38
  Speaker 15: went into a bomb shelter where about sixteen people were
• 29:42
  Speaker 15: murdered as they were.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: In there, just showing hand.
• 29:47
  Speaker 15: Grenades in the barbarity is almost unspeakable, and our government
• 29:54
  Speaker 15: in Australia should hang its head in shame because it
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: has only done a very cursory support of the Jews.
• 30:04
  Speaker 15: We've been attacked in Israel. A lot of people I
• 30:07
  Speaker 15: know are coming back to Israel to live because they
• 30:11
  Speaker 15: find Australia unsafe and I was always a very proud
• 30:15
  Speaker 15: Australian and when I speak at schools, I always say
• 30:20
  Speaker 15: I'm a proud Australian. I find that a very difficult
• 30:24
  Speaker 15: thing to say today, Susie.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Thanks so much. We understand that, and we'll catch up
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: you with you again when you return. Thanks so much
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: for making time for us today and sharing the horrors
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of what you saw, horrors that you'd hope.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: You'd never have to see or think about again.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: But let's hope you get to continue to sharing the
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: celebrations and enjoy in Israel overcoming days, Susie Smith, their
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: holocaust survivor, having to go through all that, but very
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: happy to be there, as you heard, for the celebrations
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: of freedom of the last remaining living hostages. There's got
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: to Tim Blair now from the Daily Telegraph joins us
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: as Ever from Western Victoria and talk about his perspective
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: on this. Tim, you've written brilliantly, as Ever about how
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the lefties, the protesters, having to confront a piece that
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: they don't seem to be enjoying at the moment.
• 31:15
  Speaker 16: Well, they said they wanted peace, they said they wanted
• 31:17
  Speaker 16: an agreement they said they wanted to cease fire, but
• 31:20
  Speaker 16: apparently it's been delivered by the wrong person. They can't
• 31:23
  Speaker 16: get over the fact that Donald Trump, terrible, Orange man
• 31:26
  Speaker 16: bad has delivered this. It's a poisonous piece in their
• 31:31
  Speaker 16: point of view. And we see, you know, as you've
• 31:34
  Speaker 16: shown earlier in the show, we've seen still words of
• 31:37
  Speaker 16: anger and disenchantment, fury from people who have basically got
• 31:42
  Speaker 16: what they asked for. It's a pathology at this point.
• 31:46
  Speaker 16: It's perverse and it's Stockley work itself. Any time in
• 31:50
  Speaker 16: a hurry, is it no?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And exposes their true sentiment.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: It exposes that there is really all about being anti Israel.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: It was not about freedom it which is what they've pretended.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: And of course one of the prominent voices of the
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: last forty eight hours or so has been the Victorian rogue,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Senator Lydia Thorpe.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Is what she said, and we will turn up.
• 32:12
  Speaker 17: Every day and if I have to brand down howld
• 32:15
  Speaker 17: and how to make a point, I'm not there came
• 32:25
  Speaker 17: I really.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Get jumped the people. Yeah, what a disgrace.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Now we've learned since the AFP say they've been investigating
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: these comments, no response or action from that yet. But
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: today the Opposition leader Susan Lee has written to the
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Senate President Sue Lynes, and she's asked that the the
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Senate urgently investigates the credibility of Senator Thorpe's threats and
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: the implications of her comments. I mean, Susan Lee's right
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: and the police are right to investigate this.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: If other people had said.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: The same thing about Parliament House, I'm certain we would
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: have seen action very quickly.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 33:03
  Speaker 16: Absolutely, And speaking of action, Chris, it wasn't so long
• 33:06
  Speaker 16: ago that Lydia thought, you know, stacked on a turn
• 33:10
  Speaker 16: outside a strip joint in Melbourne at three am. Much
• 33:14
  Speaker 16: abusive language, much much bad behavior. She received a lifetime
• 33:18
  Speaker 16: ban from Maxine strip Club. Now, apparently that joint, I'm
• 33:24
  Speaker 16: not personally familiar with it, but apparently that joint has
• 33:27
  Speaker 16: higher standards than Parliament, where the Senator isn't there spotted
• 33:32
  Speaker 16: what have you got to do? But she never tried
• 33:33
  Speaker 16: to burn down the strip joint, She never threatened any
• 33:36
  Speaker 16: kind of physical action in it. She was just just
• 33:39
  Speaker 16: being Lydia and that was enough for that joint to
• 33:42
  Speaker 16: take action.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: That is Australia's standards. Banned from the Strip Joint, but
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: you can sit in the Senate. Thanks so much for
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: joining us, Tim Tim Blair there, he hits it on
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: the head every time I say, let her back in
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: the Strip joint and get her out of the Senate.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: We've got to take a break on the other Side'
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: going to cross to Israel again. I'm going to catch
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: up with their deputy foreign minister. Such history being made
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: in the Middle East yesterday. If you were like me,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: you're up late last night here on sky On News
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: watching what was happening in the Kanesset with the US
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: President Donald Trump addressing Israel's parliament, as well as others
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: of course, and Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister, Sharon Haskell had
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: a front row seat you might have seen because you
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: even crossed live from within the Kannesset whilst she was
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: waiting for the President to arrive live into Sharry Markson's
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: show last night and Sharon Haskell joins me now live
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: from Israel. Good to talk to you, Sharon. That was
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: fantastic television last night. But talk to us more about
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the history. There was so much joy in that room.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: There was one interruption from I believe you know, an
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Arab member of Parliament, but.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: So much joy.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: But what I took from it because there's a lot
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: of backslapping, a lot of justified backslapping between the pre
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: and of course Prime Minister Benjamin Nett Yahoo, But there
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: was so much hope and promise that this would be
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: a new dawn.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Tell us about the event.
• 35:09
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I don't think enough people understand how
• 35:14
  Speaker 18: now that the hostages have been returned. You know, watching
• 35:18
  Speaker 18: this historic speech at the Knesset a real historic moment,
• 35:23
  Speaker 18: and you know, the Jewish people remember their history. This
• 35:28
  Speaker 18: was such an important point and while he was speaking,
• 35:31
  Speaker 18: would receive those images of the hostages coming back to
• 35:34
  Speaker 18: the loving arms of their family. For us in Israel,
• 35:38
  Speaker 18: it really means that finally we can breathe again. Since
• 35:42
  Speaker 18: the seventh of October we were holding our breadth. We
• 35:46
  Speaker 18: couldn't start a recovery process from this deep trauma, of
• 35:50
  Speaker 18: this horrendous day where crimes against humanity were committed against
• 35:55
  Speaker 18: our people. And finally, at that moment, with his word,
• 36:00
  Speaker 18: so much inspiration, so much hope for the future, the
• 36:03
  Speaker 18: images of them coming back, we could breathe. We could
• 36:07
  Speaker 18: be happy and fully be happy.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: That's a brilliant way to express it, because when I
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: was in Israel, this is what struck me. While there
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: were so many political differences and everybody had their own
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: perspective on the politics or how the war should end,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: but the one thing that united the whole country was
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: this preoccupation with the hostages and as you say, the
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: whole country holding.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Its breath until their return.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Which leads me to my next question, and that is
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Humas not honoring their deal so far on returning the
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: remains of twenty eight dead hostages. Only four bodies returned
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: so far, threats that this could break the deal even
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: in this early days.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: What's happening.
• 36:48
  Speaker 18: Look, we are really concerned, and my heart is with
• 36:51
  Speaker 18: the families who are waiting for the bodies of their
• 36:55
  Speaker 18: loved one who were murdered by Hamas to come back
• 36:58
  Speaker 18: home for you know, spected burial. Unfortunately, Hamas is not
• 37:03
  Speaker 18: keeping up to the terms of the deal. We have
• 37:06
  Speaker 18: built a mechanism. There's a problem because it wasn't just
• 37:09
  Speaker 18: Hamas that entered on the seventh of October. There were thousands,
• 37:13
  Speaker 18: if not tens of thousands of civilians, different militant groups,
• 37:18
  Speaker 18: you know, monstrous terrorist groups, not just Isis, but other cells,
• 37:23
  Speaker 18: and they've been spread among some of them, and Hamas
• 37:27
  Speaker 18: has been identifying trying to track back a lot of
• 37:31
  Speaker 18: the locations of those bodies. We are in the hope
• 37:35
  Speaker 18: of seeing real intention from Hamas to recover all of
• 37:39
  Speaker 18: them completely. And you know, we don't want war. Israel
• 37:45
  Speaker 18: never wanted war. We always wanted peace and stability here
• 37:49
  Speaker 18: in our region. This war was forced on us. We'll
• 37:52
  Speaker 18: always choose a diplomatic path whenever we have it. It
• 37:56
  Speaker 18: is only when we have no other choice but to
• 37:59
  Speaker 18: defend ourselves, to bring our people, our family members back home,
• 38:04
  Speaker 18: that will turn into a military campaign.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Sharon Haskell, thanks so much for that.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Good luck with that, because I know so many families
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: are so desperate for the closure and the dignity of
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: having the body's return. That's the Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Sharon Haskell, joining us again live from Israel. I want
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: to crows to Kristen Tate in the US in just
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: a moment. But first let's start where Donald Trump's day
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: ended last night. As you said, he's just flown back
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: into a DC, but last night he signed that peace
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: deal in Egypt alongside other world leaders.
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: This took three thousand years to get to this point,
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: can you believe it?
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And it's going to hold up to It's going to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: hold up.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's smart diplomacy to get all these countries involved
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: in the next stage. But as I put to Kristin Tate,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: the real highlight of the day was Donald Trump's address
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: to the.
• 39:01
  Speaker 19: Yes, this could really be the defining moment, perhaps of
• 39:06
  Speaker 19: Donald Trump's second term. He's stepping up and proving that
• 39:09
  Speaker 19: he's the leader the world needs right now. Israel loves him,
• 39:13
  Speaker 19: America loves him. I mean, Chris, many people never thought
• 39:16
  Speaker 19: they would get to read the headline twenty living hostages
• 39:20
  Speaker 19: return to Israel.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: This is just astonishing, these developments.
• 39:25
  Speaker 19: I've been very skeptical of Trump's son in law, Jared Kushner,
• 39:29
  Speaker 19: but he it was a big part of this with
• 39:31
  Speaker 19: the Special ENVOYE. Steve Whitcoff. They worked very hard with
• 39:35
  Speaker 19: the President and his team to get this done. You know,
• 39:38
  Speaker 19: Trump and that clip said, and a few clips said
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  Speaker 19: that he thinks this steal is going to be long lasting.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a bit skeptical there.
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  Speaker 19: Hamas is the ultimate bad faith negotiator, but this is
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  Speaker 19: a phenomenal day for the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's much to be worried about in the future.
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  Speaker 3: You really need to defeat an Islamist extremist ideology, not
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  Speaker 3: just one organization. But late last night Australian time, I
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  Speaker 3: was watching all this live on Sky. There was a
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  Speaker 3: sense of not just triumphalism, but an enormous amount of
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  Speaker 3: optimism for the future. Here's some of the President's address.
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  Speaker 7: I just want to congratulate you for having the courage
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  Speaker 7: to say that's it. We've won, and now let's enjoy
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  Speaker 7: our lives. And the choice for Palestinians could not be
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  Speaker 7: more clear. This is their chance to turn forever from
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  Speaker 7: the path of terror and violence. Has been extreme, to
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  Speaker 7: exile the wicked forces of heat that are in their mets,
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  Speaker 7: and I think that's going to happen Kristin.
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  Speaker 2: It was a vintage Trump.
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  Speaker 3: There was a prepared speech on the autoque, but he
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  Speaker 3: went free ranging, often a lot of humor, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of good grace, absolutely rapturous applause, and numerous standing ovations
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  Speaker 3: from the Israelis assembled there.
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  Speaker 2: What's the reaction been back in the US.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's been phenomenal.
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  Speaker 19: Everyone is happy right now, even you know, the Democrats
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  Speaker 19: with egg on their faces are having to admit that
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  Speaker 19: Trump got this done and it was him and his
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  Speaker 19: team who did this. Hilariously, Chris, right now we're seeing
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  Speaker 19: the Biden administration.
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  Speaker 1: That the former.
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  Speaker 19: Officials from his team, including Anthony Blincoln, his former secretary
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  Speaker 19: of State, coming forward and trying to take credit for
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  Speaker 19: all of this, saying, oh, this was actually our plan.
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  Speaker 19: He just you know, executed on it. But he should
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  Speaker 19: have done it sooner. Hello, Joe Biden was president for
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  Speaker 19: over a year and three months of this crisis.
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  Speaker 1: Why didn't he get it done?
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  Speaker 19: Maybe it was because he was a brain dead vegetable
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  Speaker 19: in office.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it was because the vice president.
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  Speaker 19: At the time continued to you know, slam Israel for
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  Speaker 19: political reasons. Maybe it was just because Israel the Middle
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  Speaker 19: East did not fear Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: It could have been any of those reasons.
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  Speaker 19: The bottom line is Donald Trump was the one to
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  Speaker 19: get it done, and even the media here in the
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  Speaker 19: US has had to admit that this is a wonderful
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  Speaker 19: day because of this president and what he did.
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  Speaker 3: You're so right, everybody who's uttered the word peace is
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  Speaker 3: trying to suggest that they've got some ownership of this result.
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  Speaker 2: That's nonsense. Our own prime.
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  Speaker 3: Minister was one of those who caved in to Harmas,
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  Speaker 3: who tried to appease Hummas by recognizing a non existent
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  Speaker 3: state of Palestine. Along with the French and the Canadians,
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: the UK and the rest of it, they don't own
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  Speaker 3: this piece. The only reason that Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Trump have got peace is because they pursued with strength
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  Speaker 3: their strategy of militarily overthrowing Hummas.
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  Speaker 2: Here is the Israeli Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 5: Last night, I have submitted you're a nominition to be
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  Speaker 5: the first non Israeli recipient of the Israel Prize, Israel's
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: highest award. As to that other prize, just a question
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: of time you'll get it, But I want you to
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  Speaker 5: get the Israel Prize, our highest to our greatest friend.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously as such, warm embrace and applause and gratitude from Israel.
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  Speaker 3: But of course on a global scale, if this cease fire,
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  Speaker 3: if the end of this war just holds for a
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  Speaker 3: while and enables some sort of reconstruction in Gaza and
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  Speaker 3: a new dawn in the Middle East, of course Trump
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: will go down as one of the great presidents. So
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  Speaker 3: many of them have fallen over in trying to get
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  Speaker 3: deals like this in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: I want to go to the.
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  Speaker 3: Cover of Time magazine now, not a magazine that's known
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: to be friendly to the conservative side of politics, but
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: they've got Donald Trump and his triumph right across the
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  Speaker 3: cover louding this. There's much uncertainty as to what happens
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  Speaker 3: in the Middle East in the months and years to come, Kristen,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: but certainly Donald Trump will be lapping up this praise
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: now and he deserves it thoroughly.
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  Speaker 19: Yes, that's right, and I love that Time magazine cover.
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  Speaker 19: I love that the left wing media who's been saying
• 44:02
  Speaker 19: Trump couldn't get this done are all having to report
• 44:05
  Speaker 19: on what happened and admit they were wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just great.
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  Speaker 19: Seeing the media, you know, having to report on this
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  Speaker 19: phenomenal success. And I mean, there's really no argument to
• 44:18
  Speaker 19: give us a great day for the world.
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  Speaker 2: There is no argument.
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  Speaker 3: The three hostages tell the story. Thanks so much for
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: joining us, Christian appreciate it. Thank you, Chris, Kristen Tate
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: there we've got to take a break, then, Susio O'Brien
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: and Stephen Senati Empire. One of the things we'll talk
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: about is victorious police commissioner hitting out of the pro
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  Speaker 3: Palestine protests for taking up police resources. Let's go to
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  Speaker 3: the panel now with Susio O'Brien News Corps National Education
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  Speaker 3: Editor and Stephen Senati, Empire Radio host from the nation's capital.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks both for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: I want to share some of the news about what
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: unfolded on the streets of Melbourne this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look.
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  Speaker 20: It's a same that looks like it should be out
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  Speaker 20: of a movie, but instead it's early morning in Melbourne's CBD.
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  Speaker 20: Through the crowd, a man walks calmly down the street
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  Speaker 20: again in his hand. The man allegedly causing chaos in
• 45:13
  Speaker 20: the streets of Melbourne, taken away by emergency services and
• 45:17
  Speaker 20: treated a Royal Melbourne Hospital. It's believed the alleged defender
• 45:21
  Speaker 20: started the ordeal at a service station in North Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: What followed was two.
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  Speaker 20: Card jackings that ended in him driving erradically through Melbourne's CBD.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Susie, so many crime issues in Melbourne, yet the
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  Speaker 3: police are busy trying to look after protests all the time.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's fascinating. Mike Bush, the new commissioner has come
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  Speaker 8: out and said two twenty five thousand shifts were used
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: in police ships were used up covering the Palestinian protests
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  Speaker 8: and some of those were absolutely massive. To think that
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  Speaker 8: they are saying they're going to continue these protests now
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  Speaker 8: that the peace still has been struck is kind of baffling.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I have some compassion for their cause, but
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  Speaker 8: at the same time they should have compassion for the
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  Speaker 8: people of Melbourne who are well and truly.
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  Speaker 2: Sick of it.
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  Speaker 8: And we want police doing what they do best and
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  Speaker 8: keeping the streets safe, not just patrolling these kind of protests.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's extraordinary, isn't it, Stephen.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty five thousand police shifts devoted to these anti Israel protests,
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  Speaker 3: which is what they really are.
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  Speaker 2: And it's obvious to anybody.
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  Speaker 3: That Victoria and Melbourne in particular has a crime problem.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's not just that.
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  Speaker 11: If you extrapolate this across the country, Chris, we're probably
• 46:41
  Speaker 11: talking about one hundred thousand shifts really, because you look
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  Speaker 11: at these protests have been happening in every jurisdiction in
• 46:47
  Speaker 11: Australia and there is a massive shortage of police numbers
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  Speaker 11: in every jurisdiction in Australia. If you look at New
• 46:53
  Speaker 11: South Wales, it's in the thousands. Here in the Act
• 46:55
  Speaker 11: it's two or three hundred. Victoria is probably in the
• 46:57
  Speaker 11: same boat. Western Australia's way behind. In Northern Territory, they
• 47:01
  Speaker 11: can't even cope with their crime problem. We've got domestic
• 47:03
  Speaker 11: violence issues on the rise in some jurisdictions. We've got
• 47:07
  Speaker 11: car theft going through the roof. Whilst they tell us
• 47:09
  Speaker 11: overall crime numbers are coming down, you wonder if that's
• 47:12
  Speaker 11: because of lack of reporting, because there's no police to
• 47:15
  Speaker 11: deal with these and they're tied up dealing with these uneducated,
• 47:19
  Speaker 11: useful idiots. Well, the organizers, I'm going to go even
• 47:22
  Speaker 11: beyond that, but the fellow travelers who go along with
• 47:25
  Speaker 11: these anti Israel and pro har masked protests think they're
• 47:28
  Speaker 11: doing the right thing. But what they're doing is actually
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: creating a bigger problem for the broader community that can't
• 47:33
  Speaker 11: be handled by an understrength police force.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, spot on, Just a brief word from each of
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: you on Anthony ALBERNISI is it okay for the Prime
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Minister SUSI to be holidaying overseas? He's overseas a lot
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: often takes as his fiance with him. Why wouldn't he
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: have his holidays in Australia.
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: I hadn't even thought of that. I was just thinking that,
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: you know, everybody deserves a week off.
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  Speaker 2: He has.
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  Speaker 8: This is apparently the first week that he's taken off
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: this term.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: But you time.
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  Speaker 8: But you know what, it's not like anything's happening on
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  Speaker 8: the world stage. It's not like it's a big newsheek.
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  Speaker 8: You'd think perhaps he would want to be across what's
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: happening there, not going to some secret tropical location.
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  Speaker 3: You know about absolutely after all the Hulla balloo with
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Scott Morrison in particular, Stephen, I reckon spend your dollars
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: in Australia. Be in Australia in case something happens. Don't
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: be airbus elbow.
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  Speaker 11: Every week of the year, particularly given that our hospitality
• 48:30
  Speaker 11: businesses are crying out for business. But look the poor bloke,
• 48:33
  Speaker 11: he's so tired from all these overseas trips that he
• 48:35
  Speaker 11: had to go on an overseas trip. But yeah, you're right,
• 48:37
  Speaker 11: he should be holidaying here in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff. Thanks for joining us again, Stephen and Susie.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: A little bit of time just to share some of
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: your feedback from yesterday's program.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday's events really one of yours says, what a day amazing.
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  Speaker 3: May there be peace in the Middle East. Heart and
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: prayers with the hostages and their families. Welcome home, Gloria says,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: God bless Netanyahu and Trump for them persistence to stand
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: and fight for their nations and surviving the hostility of
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: their political enemies. And another viewer says, blessed are the peacemakers.
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  Speaker 2: Blessed.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, it has been great to share some good news
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: over the past two days, but there are many difficulties ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me. Peter Kredlin is up next.