Latest / Diogenes Club / Diogenes Club | E10 - You Cease, We Fire
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- 0:34SPEAKER_02: Hey, what's going on, y'all?
- 0:36SPEAKER_02: Welcome.
- 0:37SPEAKER_02: I'm Nick Pero.
- 0:38SPEAKER_02: Oh, we hit our names here.
- 0:39SPEAKER_02: I'm Nick Pero, not your dad, here for an incredible discussion.
- 0:43SPEAKER_02: As always, it's the Diogenes Club.
- 0:46SPEAKER_02: I'm joined by my friend Evan Fields.
- 0:48We are missing two of our four right now,
- 0:52but we'll have Walter here soon.
- 0:55He's in the middle of another interview with a friend of ours
- 0:59in the community,
- 1:00SPEAKER_02: and it's going to be great.
- 1:02SPEAKER_02: brother, Mr. Optimistic over there.
- 1:04SPEAKER_02: How are you doing today, man?
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: I figured I'd bullshit everybody today.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: I'm not.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: The world is burning.
- 1:14Incels doing 24 seven live streams,
- 1:18trying to captivate the minds of millions of young men and
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: We've got a new war going on every day.
- 1:27Did you see that Trump waged war on the U.S.
- 1:30Park Service today by dismantling,
- 1:32what was it?
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: Forest Service.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: Jesus.
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: Order dismantling the U.S. Forest Service today.
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: So that's his war of the day is on the environment.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: Fucking stupid.
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: I am kind of optimistic, man.
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: I'm doing good.
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: I'm happy to be here.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: I'm excited.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: I know I've been missing the past couple weeks.
- 1:55I've been under the weather and trying to get back into the
- 1:59swing of things.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: How are you doing, buddy?
- 2:02SPEAKER_02: I'm doing good, man.
- 2:03SPEAKER_02: I'm busy as hell.
- 2:10SPEAKER_02: It's a lot of work that I've been doing,
- 2:12SPEAKER_02: and you'll hear some piano in the background as my nephew plays.
- 2:16SPEAKER_02: You may also hear Uncle Nick, Uncle Nick throughout the
- 2:19SPEAKER_02: the show,
- 2:19SPEAKER_02: as always,
- 2:20SPEAKER_02: for everyone who's here with us,
- 2:22SPEAKER_02: you know me,
- 2:23SPEAKER_02: I have kids around all the time.
- 2:25SPEAKER_02: Good morning, everyone.
- 2:26SPEAKER_02: Actually, good afternoon, everyone in the audience.
- 2:28SPEAKER_02: I guess it's afternoon for a lot of people.
- 2:31SPEAKER_02: Good morning,
- 2:31SPEAKER_02: good afternoon,
- 2:32SPEAKER_02: good time of day,
- 2:33SPEAKER_02: whatever time of day it is,
- 2:34SPEAKER_02: you're catching this with us.
- 2:35SPEAKER_02: Hey, it's good to have you with us.
- 2:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm doing well.
- 2:39I've been building a lot of tooling and technical support
- 2:44systems behind the scene.
- 2:46I'm also working on getting hired as an independent contractor
- 2:49to use those
- 2:50SPEAKER_02: technical skills and work to support others.
- 2:55And I'm super excited to talk about that and discuss some of
- 3:00the things that I've
- 3:01been building and all the cool things that are going on because
- 3:05I think you'll
- 3:06SPEAKER_02: enjoy some of it,
- 3:08especially the new one that I've set up that allows me to
- 3:12publish notes toSubstack
- 3:14threads and blue sky all at the same time in a queuing order
- 3:18without having to pay
- 3:19somebody else to do it um or pay for another service yeah man
- 3:25i'm on threads i
- 3:26posted something yesterday hell yeah i got my first thread with
- 3:31over a hundred
- 3:32SPEAKER_02: likes um
- 3:34on it which is nick there he is oh yeah come follow me on
- 3:37threads friends i know
- 3:39it's facebook and it's meta and we don't like facebook and meta
- 3:43in a lot of ways
- 3:44threads is the business threads has like those perfect like
- 3:472017 2018 twitter vibes
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: where like
- 3:54and it's actually a good community like everybody on there kind
- 3:57of shits on meta
- 3:59and everything as a whole they recognize that you know the
- 4:02company sucks and
- 4:03everything but it's like i saw somebody say it's like all the
- 4:10overachieving burnt
- 4:12out gifted kids that are on there like talking about how what's
- 4:16actually going on
- 4:17SPEAKER_00: with the world right now i don't know it's a good place man it's
- 4:21One of those social media things where like you'll get an
- 4:25oddball person.
- 4:27SPEAKER_02: Hey, turn it down just a little, buddy.
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: You'll get like an oddball person that shares,
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: their outfit for the day or something like that and doesn't expect,
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: they didn't know that they posted it on threads or something.
- 4:41They just posted it on their Instagram account and then it gets
- 4:43like 20,000 likes
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: and everybody's encouraging them.
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: It's really cool.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: I like it on there.
- 4:49SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
- 4:50SPEAKER_02: I like that.
- 4:51SPEAKER_02: I'm glad that I'm expanding into that area then.
- 4:54SPEAKER_02: Because I'm now starting to post.
- 4:56SPEAKER_02: So on top of the auto posting text based messages for myself,
- 5:01SPEAKER_02: so I and it's not for those in the audience,
- 5:05SPEAKER_02: it is not AI writing the messages for me,
- 5:09SPEAKER_02: I write the posts,
- 5:10SPEAKER_02: and then I tell it to post it across three different services,
- 5:13SPEAKER_02: working to expand that into more services.
- 5:16SPEAKER_02: But we've also
- 5:18gotten into adding or i've gotten into adding video clipping
- 5:23and the ability to
- 5:24post videos automatically from oh we got dr eric oh shit did
- 5:30nobody accept their
- 5:31SPEAKER_02: show invites today y'all are y'all need to get on that
- 5:35SPEAKER_00: I accidentally,
- 5:36SPEAKER_00: like it popped up when I was joining and everything,
- 5:39SPEAKER_00: and I accidentally closed it out.
- 5:42SPEAKER_02: Look at this fine looking gentleman over here with a beautiful tie.
- 5:47SPEAKER_02: Man, you're looking good, brother.
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: I even got my badge.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: Fancy.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: How's the speaking engagements going?
- 5:58SPEAKER_01: Good.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: Start tomorrow.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: I've been just in my meetings and stuff today.
- 6:01SPEAKER_01: So, yeah.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: schmoozing, talking with all the big wigs.
- 6:04This is everybody in subs that gets to see how well put
- 6:07together I can be,
- 6:08right?
- 6:09SPEAKER_01: I love it.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: Look at him.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: He got a haircut and everything.
- 6:12SPEAKER_01: No, it's just hair gel.
- 6:12SPEAKER_02: You're looking good, brother.
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: You know, I try.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: Good, man.
- 6:17SPEAKER_01: Evan, it's nice to see you actually showed up on time.
- 6:19SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: I was a little late.
- 6:21SPEAKER_02: A little late.
- 6:22SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
- 6:23SPEAKER_02: We're all a little behind today.
- 6:25SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 6:27SPEAKER_01: So let me tell you.
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so when you guys, I'll get into our...
- 6:31SPEAKER_01: about what I was messaging you guys earlier with the keynote.
- 6:33SPEAKER_02: Let me finish real quick before we get.
- 6:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
- 6:37SPEAKER_02: so I on top of the text based multi platform distribution,
- 6:42we've now got or I've now got clip based multi platform
- 6:46distribution where so all
- 6:48of these shows that we do here on Restream create auto
- 6:52generated clips from the
- 6:53SPEAKER_02: discussion that we've been having,
- 6:55SPEAKER_02: which helps me distribute our content and get our faces out there.
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: And now after the shows,
- 7:01it automatically downloads those clips for me once they're
- 7:04produced and then use
- 7:05SPEAKER_02: them to get released to blue sky and threads.
- 7:09SPEAKER_02: I'm working on trying to figure out sub stack,
- 7:11but Substack is really tough because they don't have a
- 7:15programmatic approach to
- 7:16SPEAKER_02: their stuff.
- 7:16So you actually have to automate like web browser clicks,
- 7:20which is really interesting.
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: So it's pretty awesome.
- 7:24I'm having a lot of fun doing it and I'm about to get to be
- 7:27able to use it with
- 7:28SPEAKER_02: other people too.
- 7:30um so i'm super excited about that i feel like i feel like i'm
- 7:33overdressed guys
- 7:35well you should you are overdressed but that's okay good god
- 7:41over here looking like
- 7:42the million dollar man so what's the keynote going on tomorrow
- 7:48so no that was that
- 7:49was today so that was um yeah so let me tell you she she's
- 7:54amazing so she's so
- 7:57Kate was basically a mission specialist scientist assigned to
- 8:02the International Space Station.
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: So she's a microbiologist.
- 8:08SPEAKER_01: And,
- 8:08SPEAKER_01: like,
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: literally,
- 8:10SPEAKER_01: she was the first human,
- 8:11SPEAKER_01: for everybody watching the show,
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: she was the first human to sequence DNA in space.
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: Was that, like, what...
- 8:25So the actual DNA sequencing has always been done traditionally
- 8:29in a benchtop
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: laboratory with gravity.
- 8:32So she had to figure out how to pipette,
- 8:35how to spin,
- 8:36how much fluid and water to use.
- 8:38And literally,
- 8:44they had to create a laboratory for her to do all the work in.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: So the International Space Station has been up there how many years?
- 8:50SPEAKER_01: What, 20?
- 8:52SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 8:54She literally had,
- 8:55and they're only,
- 8:55this is the coolest,
- 8:56I did not know this.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: So when they go to spend, she was up there for 100 days.
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: So when they go up to the International Space Station,
- 9:02they're only allowed to bring five kilograms worth of stuff
- 9:06that they absolutely
- 9:07SPEAKER_01: need to have to do their work.
- 9:11SPEAKER_01: So there was no, she was telling, so there was no centrifuge on the ISS.
- 9:16So they basically took,
- 9:17they had a typical MacGyver because you don't have everything
- 9:21up there.
- 9:22SPEAKER_01: They had to create a centrifuge and they had a Makita drill.
- 9:26So they wound up jury rigging some plastic housed device to put
- 9:30all the tubes in
- 9:32SPEAKER_01: and attached it to a Makita drill and then basically ran the drill as the
- 9:36SPEAKER_01: centrifuge.
- 9:37SPEAKER_02: I love that.
- 9:38SPEAKER_02: That's Apollo 11.
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: That's Apollo 11 stuff, right?
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: That's so Apollo.
- 9:43SPEAKER_00: This was like a recent mission thing that she did it.
- 9:47SPEAKER_01: She was a mission specialist for the ISS.
- 9:50SPEAKER_01: She went up there to study NASA Center.
- 9:52SPEAKER_01: She was a fully trained astronaut.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: She was, you know, went up on the SpaceX rocket.
- 9:58SPEAKER_01: So now she's at the University of Pittsburgh.
- 10:01SPEAKER_01: Oh, sweet.
- 10:02SPEAKER_01: And she's built her own laboratory.
- 10:03And she's got,
- 10:04obviously,
- 10:04she gets all this funding now because she's,
- 10:06you know,
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: When you do that, you can't go up in space ever again.
- 10:10Now she takes all the research that they've learned there and
- 10:15applies it back down
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: here for translational medicine and translational science.
- 10:20SPEAKER_02: What is that doing for medical research?
- 10:22SPEAKER_02: What is the advantage of doing this in space compared to on Earth?
- 10:26SPEAKER_01: Learning how fluids work in different media.
- 10:30SPEAKER_01: Learning how bacteria are different in space.
- 10:33SPEAKER_01: Learning how this is what happens.
- 10:34SPEAKER_01: This is the kind of science that gets done.
- 10:36when we start learning how to do longer space travel like how
- 10:40does bacteria react
- 10:41in a in that type of an environment or viruses so pretty cool
- 10:47stuff space missions
- 10:49and stuff is like the different types of people that they put
- 10:52on the missions and
- 10:53stand out there and everything because it's not only just like
- 10:57the research that
- 10:57they're doing like as part of the mission but it's like the
- 11:00outreach and everything
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: they do with like the video conferences and everything
- 11:04SPEAKER_01: I didn't, I didn't take a picture of it.
- 11:05SPEAKER_01: She said there's like the one piece that the analyzers that they use now,
- 11:08SPEAKER_01: because like the ones that they use in the big laboratories,
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: like the big spectrograph analyzers,
- 11:12SPEAKER_01: like for microspectrocomy are like huge units or like as wide as my head,
- 11:17SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: which is about this big right now.
- 11:19SPEAKER_01: And then,
- 11:21so they've created ones from like companies that are literally
- 11:24the size of an
- 11:25SPEAKER_01: iPhone that can process.
- 11:28SPEAKER_01: It's really cool.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: I mean, like, this is like, this is really the Star Trek stuff.
- 11:33SPEAKER_01: Like this is really like 22nd century space technology.
- 11:39SPEAKER_01: Listen, this is what it is.
- 11:41SPEAKER_02: We should be all focused on this at all times.
- 11:43Like this should be what we're talking about all the time is
- 11:46the cool space stuff
- 11:47SPEAKER_02: and the cool technologies.
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: This was actually a picture of her.
- 11:51This was a picture of her in the lab with actually one of the
- 11:53liquid materials
- 11:54SPEAKER_01: actually in the station.
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: So she was what they found was that
- 11:58certain fluid mixtures actually didn't float away they actually
- 12:01adhere more to the
- 12:03surface because there's no gravity interesting like that was
- 12:06one of the things that
- 12:07they found out that certain reagents with certain liquids don't
- 12:11actually float in
- 12:13zero grav they actually adhere to the surface so this is how
- 12:17different polymers are
- 12:18getting found out like you start making different polymer
- 12:20materials for space
- 12:21travel for like this is the kind of stuff that winds up in our
- 12:25vehicles in 10 years
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: this is
- 12:28I saw somebody talking about it the other day and I'm obviously
- 12:31not a scientist.
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: I'm just a dumbass.
- 12:36But it was like they were talking about how it's not just the
- 12:39space travel.
- 12:40It's all the things that go along with it because with that
- 12:43first moon mission or
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: whatever,
- 12:45we got all these other technologies that we use on a daily
- 12:49basis in American life.
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: Those are the things that come along with funding NASA.
- 12:54SPEAKER_00: Those are the things that come along with
- 12:57doing these space programs and everything is that they make the
- 13:01american people's
- 13:02lives better as well you get like navigation and gps and
- 13:06bluetooth and wi-fi and
- 13:08all these different things that get discovered or whatever out
- 13:12of this one focused
- 13:14mission and there's so much beautiful shit that comes out of it
- 13:18like outside of
- 13:19just the pictures and the like hope and wonder of it all you
- 13:22know what i mean
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: there's so much scientific right
- 13:25like this was this was a video of her working in the laboratory
- 13:29on the station and
- 13:30she was working with the pipette tray and then literally like
- 13:34them like she said
- 13:35like she had to learn how to fill them like one third full so
- 13:39it doesn't actually
- 13:40drop out and float around like it's pretty cool like in full
- 13:42zero gravity it's wild
- 13:44SPEAKER_01: stuff i mean it's pretty cool guys i mean it's it's you know
- 13:49Those conferences have to be a ton of fun getting to meet
- 13:51people like that.
- 13:52SPEAKER_01: It is.
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: And this is her delivering the keynote, so she's wearing her NASA jacket.
- 13:57SPEAKER_00: Dude, that's awesome.
- 13:57SPEAKER_01: I apologize for the lighting.
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, it was pretty cool.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: So, let me see here.
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: Look at our big wig friend, Nick.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: Can you believe this shit?
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: Dude, isn't he cool?
- 14:13SPEAKER_02: That's so cool.
- 14:15SPEAKER_02: It is.
- 14:15SPEAKER_02: It's nerdy cool for me.
- 14:18I'm a space nerd and wanting to live in a society of Star Trek
- 14:25compared to Star Wars.
- 14:27SPEAKER_02: I want to be on the Star Trek side of things.
- 14:30Advanced polymers or figuring out how liquids work in zero
- 14:35gravity gets us to the
- 14:36place where we can make artificial gravity in space and figure
- 14:41out how to actually
- 14:42SPEAKER_02: Do stuff and go places.
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
- 14:44SPEAKER_01: and this is the stuff they're doing on the ISS,
- 14:46but we don't hear about it because a lot of it's top secret or
- 14:49it's nerdy stuff
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: that the general population doesn't know about or whatever.
- 14:53SPEAKER_01: But if anyone wants to Google search her,
- 14:55SPEAKER_01: her name is Kate Rubens,
- 14:58SPEAKER_01: R-U-B-I-N-S,
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: and she's comma PhD.
- 15:02You've got to get her on your Substack for a live and talk about
- 15:05all that.
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: She's busy, though.
- 15:07SPEAKER_00: I'll try.
- 15:09SPEAKER_01: It would be cool.
- 15:09SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
- 15:11Yeah,
- 15:11like it's she actually when I walked into the I'm in the
- 15:13speaker ready room.
- 15:14SPEAKER_01: So like,
- 15:15SPEAKER_01: for the faculty room for the speakers and at the conference,
- 15:17but she was sitting at a table across from me speaking with
- 15:20somebody who served in
- 15:21SPEAKER_01: one of her army units.
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
- 15:23So she was an army biomedical researcher and she hadn't seen
- 15:27him in 20 years.
- 15:29SPEAKER_01: And they were just sitting here connecting.
- 15:30SPEAKER_01: That's how cool this stuff is.
- 15:31It's just,
- 15:32you know,
- 15:33but I just I wanted to just kind of share that with everybody.
- 15:35SPEAKER_01: Like,
- 15:35it's not all like me sitting in my office doing Substack videos
- 15:38all day long.
- 15:39SPEAKER_01: This is
- 15:40SPEAKER_01: You know, this is what I do.
- 15:45SPEAKER_01: This is me advancing my industry and giving back to the communities.
- 15:51And the stuff that I learned here and the stuff that we learn
- 15:53here are the things
- 15:55SPEAKER_01: that providers and health care providers bring back to the offices,
- 15:59SPEAKER_01: nurses,
- 15:59SPEAKER_01: PAs,
- 16:00SPEAKER_01: podiatrists,
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: MDs,
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: DOs,
- 16:02to bring back all of this knowledge and technologies back so
- 16:06that we can treat you.
- 16:09SPEAKER_01: You know, and this is why continuing medical education is important.
- 16:12SPEAKER_01: This is why funding health care is important.
- 16:14SPEAKER_01: This is why funding the NIH is important and funding the CDC.
- 16:19So the things that the government's doing right now in cutting
- 16:22another five billion
- 16:23SPEAKER_01: from the NIH,
- 16:25SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 16:25SPEAKER_01: like literally imagine now that was the ISS.
- 16:29SPEAKER_01: But imagine that's some laboratory, say at some university.
- 16:33SPEAKER_01: whether it's Vanderbilt or Tulane or LSU or University of Michigan,
- 16:38SPEAKER_01: Boston University,
- 16:39SPEAKER_01: Tufts Howard,
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Harvard,
- 16:42SPEAKER_01: Yale,
- 16:43SPEAKER_01: University of Georgia,
- 16:45SPEAKER_01: anywhere in the United States,
- 16:46SPEAKER_01: that some researcher,
- 16:47SPEAKER_01: some graduate assistant researcher,
- 16:49SPEAKER_01: PhD working with a PhD professor,
- 16:52working in some translational laboratory could possibly be
- 16:55formulating the new
- 16:56SPEAKER_01: treatment paradigm for
- 16:58alzheimer's or cure for diabetes or cure for cancer but they
- 17:02can't get any nih
- 17:03funding because the government's cut it yep okay all this basic
- 17:09research we're
- 17:10losing right right and this is and then but not just that but
- 17:13there's a there's a
- 17:14carry down effect from all this it's what happens to all these
- 17:17students that see
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: that the nih isn't being funded so they don't go into research
- 17:23you know so what happens to all of those people all those phd
- 17:27candidates that want
- 17:28to go do research but they know there's no funding they're
- 17:30going to go work for
- 17:31private they're going to go work in private so what i'm saying
- 17:35is this is all right
- 17:36but this is just my little corner of the universe in my
- 17:40industry but imagine what
- 17:41this is like across the board where this funding is so integral
- 17:47to our future
- 17:47SPEAKER_01: health and our national security
- 17:50they don't give a shit and they're just saying well we'll just
- 17:52you know we just
- 17:53don't need to pay for it that's what because it's not about
- 17:55that's kind of what i
- 17:56was getting into therapy this morning is that there's such a
- 17:59disconnect with the
- 18:00people that like pay attention that much and are that in tune
- 18:03with it and like the
- 18:04everyday american that you just don't they don't put together
- 18:08that two and two of
- 18:09SPEAKER_00: the downstream effects of every kid
- 18:12SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
- 18:12SPEAKER_00: Like they see the news of that $5 million being cut,
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: but they don't see those effects of like how it,
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: like you said,
- 18:19with the research students and the people that want to go into
- 18:22that field,
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: that it deters them from doing so.
- 18:26SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 18:27the things that cure your illness or the research that goes
- 18:31into making that
- 18:31medical device are done in the laboratory before they even get
- 18:35into the operating
- 18:36SPEAKER_01: room or into the clinic.
- 18:38SPEAKER_01: And
- 18:41SPEAKER_01: there's always a ramification.
- 18:44SPEAKER_01: There's always a cost to pay.
- 18:46There's always a clinical or laboratory or pharmaceutical cost
- 18:55of doing it the wrong way.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: You know, and that's why we do, right.
- 19:00SPEAKER_00: That next man up thing,
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: are you seeing like the lack,
- 19:03SPEAKER_00: like in your field especially,
- 19:05are you seeing young people come into the field or are you
- 19:08seeing the lack of it?
- 19:09SPEAKER_01: No, particularly in the podiatry community, enrollment's down.
- 19:13SPEAKER_01: The colleges are struggling.
- 19:14Younger people are not willing to go into medicine because of
- 19:19the cost involved.
- 19:20They're not going to graduate with $300,000 in debt to make no
- 19:23money,
- 19:24right?
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: And this is,
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: so we've got some serious,
- 19:28SPEAKER_01: like if we don't,
- 19:29SPEAKER_01: the healthcare system is essentially,
- 19:31SPEAKER_01: we all agree,
- 19:32SPEAKER_01: you've heard me say it,
- 19:32SPEAKER_01: is inherently,
- 19:33SPEAKER_01: it's inherently not working.
- 19:36SPEAKER_01: It's entirely fractured, right?
- 19:37It's actually one of my colleagues back there,
- 19:39that's Dr.
- 19:40Greenstein back there.
- 19:42So with an inherently broken healthcare system,
- 19:47it makes it easy to fracture the country.
- 19:50SPEAKER_01: It makes it easier to start breaking off the country into regions, right?
- 19:57And this is why I see the pattern of what they're doing with
- 20:00our healthcare infrastructure.
- 20:02It's to basically break us off as people so that we are only
- 20:08controlled by one
- 20:09SPEAKER_01: monopoly company that's managing everybody's health care regionally.
- 20:14SPEAKER_01: I see what the plutocrats and the techno idiots are doing.
- 20:16I can see like the Aetna's of the world,
- 20:18the United Health Care's of the world,
- 20:19Blue Cross's.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: I see what they're doing.
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: And this should scare the shit out of everybody.
- 20:24you think it'll be like a system where it's like blue cross
- 20:27blue shield has the
- 20:28south and like whatever has like the west and only if we only
- 20:37if we allow it yeah
- 20:39so there's a bill in the senate right now it's bill senate bill
- 20:433877 i think it is
- 20:46SPEAKER_01: it's the breaking up the medicine act
- 20:49SPEAKER_01: And the bill was designed specifically to break up the PBMs,
- 20:53SPEAKER_01: the pharmacy benefit managers,
- 20:54with the insurance companies and the pharmacies and the drug
- 20:57manufacturers so that
- 20:58SPEAKER_01: there would be less monopoly in the system.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: So this was a bill that was sponsored by Senator Warren.
- 21:05SPEAKER_01: Of all people, Josh Hawley actually co-sponsored it.
- 21:08I think he's required to under Missouri's constitution that he
- 21:12has to do certain
- 21:13things for them or he can be impeached by them because they
- 21:15have some pretty strict
- 21:16rules around like healthcare in Missouri that are actually very
- 21:20progressive for
- 21:21SPEAKER_02: their state.
- 21:23SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 21:23SPEAKER_01: But right now it's stuck in the, but I'm weird.
- 21:27SPEAKER_01: So this is weird.
- 21:28So the committee that it's stuck in,
- 21:29it's stuck in the judiciary committee.
- 21:32SPEAKER_01: It was sent into, because I think the, well, you know why?
- 21:35SPEAKER_01: Because the, the health committee is part of judiciary.
- 21:39the health fucking eye listen does anything in dc make any
- 21:43sense no we need to we
- 21:45need to have those like subcommittees that are so it's stuck so
- 21:51it went into the
- 21:52subcommittee it went into the judiciary committee on february
- 21:5410th and it's been
- 21:55sat there since now you know listen there's a lot of stuff in
- 22:00that bill that needs
- 22:01to be fixed there's language in there that has to come out
- 22:03there's stuff in there
- 22:03SPEAKER_01: that the ama has put in there that is really wrong language because
- 22:07SPEAKER_01: looking at it from my sector in wound care,
- 22:11SPEAKER_01: like when we have multi-specialty care for patients,
- 22:16SPEAKER_01: that's when you get effective care,
- 22:18not going from physician to nurse practitioner to PA and
- 22:24breaking down care that
- 22:26SPEAKER_01: way.
- 22:26SPEAKER_01: It's better if we're all working together.
- 22:28And it's actually cheaper when you have a more open system
- 22:32versus a monopoly.
- 22:34SPEAKER_01: But anyway, enough of that.
- 22:36SPEAKER_02: I actually know I want to go into that a little bit more is what,
- 22:41how does this wrap into like dental insurance and vision
- 22:45insurance and things like
- 22:46SPEAKER_02: that?
- 22:46Because I don't have dental insurance and we just had to pay
- 22:50almost 300 bucks out
- 22:51SPEAKER_02: of pocket to get my son a tooth x-ray,
- 22:54SPEAKER_02: a inspection,
- 22:56SPEAKER_02: and they put,
- 22:57SPEAKER_02: and it's the numbing agents, but he didn't fall.
- 23:00SPEAKER_02: He,
- 23:00SPEAKER_02: it,
- 23:00SPEAKER_02: they ended up not pulling the tooth,
- 23:02which I'm kind of glad about because that saved us almost 400
- 23:05extra dollars to
- 23:06SPEAKER_02: fucking pull the tooth.
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: So the dentist covers anything anyway, besides every six.
- 23:12SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 23:12SPEAKER_01: So,
- 23:13SPEAKER_01: so dental,
- 23:14SPEAKER_01: so dental insurance,
- 23:16SPEAKER_01: maybe 15,
- 23:1720 years ago started not covering and it wasn't that they
- 23:21weren't covering,
- 23:21but they started putting in one year waiting periods before you
- 23:24could have major
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: dental work done.
- 23:26SPEAKER_01: Like if you got a new policy,
- 23:28SPEAKER_01: let's say you had a policy in January and then you needed a root canal,
- 23:32SPEAKER_01: it wouldn't be covered.
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: You had to wait a year.
- 23:34SPEAKER_01: Just fucking stupid.
- 23:36SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 23:37SPEAKER_01: So they figured out a way.
- 23:38SPEAKER_01: So the dentists were like, fuck this.
- 23:41SPEAKER_01: We're just going to not take insurance for this stuff.
- 23:45SPEAKER_01: So a lot of dentists,
- 23:47what they do is they take basic dental insurance for
- 23:49prophylaxis and x-rays and
- 23:50SPEAKER_01: exams.
- 23:51SPEAKER_01: but they won't,
- 23:52SPEAKER_01: they'll,
- 23:52they'll charge cash for those procedures under the insurance
- 23:55payment system.
- 23:56SPEAKER_01: Like they'll basically say,
- 23:57SPEAKER_01: okay,
- 23:58SPEAKER_01: we're not going to participate with say like Cigna,
- 24:00SPEAKER_01: Cigna insurance.
- 24:01SPEAKER_01: Sorry guys, we're not going to pay for Cigna insurance.
- 24:03SPEAKER_01: We're not going to take Cigna insurance,
- 24:05SPEAKER_01: but we're just going to pay the,
- 24:07SPEAKER_01: we'll,
- 24:07SPEAKER_01: we'll,
- 24:07SPEAKER_01: we'll have you pay the cash charge as if you are insured with Cigna,
- 24:11SPEAKER_01: even though that's,
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: cause we don't participate.
- 24:14But then what happens is now it allows them to,
- 24:16to charge cash services for root canal,
- 24:20for,
- 24:21cavity fillings for bridges for you know whatever and not have
- 24:27to do so that's the
- 24:29way dental's gone but healthcare is a whole different animal
- 24:32okay it's the same
- 24:33thing with vision vision will pay for a basic refract they'll
- 24:36do a fraction you
- 24:38know dilation refraction they'll pay for really shit basic
- 24:40lenses but you know how
- 24:43many times you you get your lenses covered and they're like i
- 24:45can't wear that it's
- 24:46awful you know you end up spending a couple hundred dollars on
- 24:49a pair of frames
- 24:50SPEAKER_01: anyway
- 24:51I'm glad I get my stuff through the VA because the reason I
- 24:55have glasses that
- 24:56actually work for me and I can get new pairs of glasses every
- 24:59year is because I
- 25:00SPEAKER_02: have the VA.
- 25:02Which is why places like Costco and BJ's do really well with
- 25:06their optical because
- 25:08it's cheaper than going to your local optometrist and getting
- 25:11them through
- 25:12SPEAKER_01: VisionWorks or whatever.
- 25:15SPEAKER_02: Well, because that's all a monopoly anyways.
- 25:17The whole entire vision industry is a monopoly under like one
- 25:20or two companies that
- 25:21SPEAKER_02: own the glasses.
- 25:23SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 25:23SPEAKER_01: So what's happened in medical,
- 25:25SPEAKER_01: which is different,
- 25:26SPEAKER_01: is that we have all been trained that,
- 25:28SPEAKER_01: oh,
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: you work for a company,
- 25:30SPEAKER_01: you get health insurance,
- 25:32SPEAKER_01: right?
- 25:33Or,
- 25:33you know,
- 25:34you guys served in the military,
- 25:35so you guys are lucky to have VA coverage.
- 25:39SPEAKER_01: But for most people, they rely on
- 25:42SPEAKER_01: either employer-sponsored health insurance or they have to self-insure.
- 25:47SPEAKER_01: And we have been trained as a country to think that,
- 25:50SPEAKER_01: oh,
- 25:51SPEAKER_01: I'm working so I should get health care for my employer,
- 25:55SPEAKER_01: but that's not how it works anymore.
- 25:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 25:59And health care costs have gone up and up and up without any
- 26:04evidence that,
- 26:05SPEAKER_01: and meanwhile,
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: but CEO profits are going through the roof.
- 26:08SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
- 26:08SPEAKER_01: And we talked about this before,
- 26:10and it's a wonder why the CEO of United Health Group got two
- 26:12bullets in the back.
- 26:14SPEAKER_01: Because of one disgruntled,
- 26:15SPEAKER_01: because of a disgruntled patient who tracked him down,
- 26:20SPEAKER_01: followed him,
- 26:21SPEAKER_01: and then murdered him.
- 26:23SPEAKER_01: I'm not advocating this, okay?
- 26:25SPEAKER_01: No.
- 26:25SPEAKER_01: But one plus one sometimes does equal three.
- 26:29SPEAKER_00: I'll advocate it.
- 26:31SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
- 26:32SPEAKER_01: You don't want to have a...
- 26:33SPEAKER_01: I'm disavowing any knowledge of this guy up here right now.
- 26:36SPEAKER_01: That's not the way.
- 26:36SPEAKER_01: We don't do this.
- 26:37SPEAKER_01: We don't act like that.
- 26:39SPEAKER_01: You want to do that, you go on Joe Rogan's show.
- 26:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we don't act for violence that way.
- 26:44And we do advocate for the end of these systems because it's so
- 26:51destructive.
- 26:53SPEAKER_00: What I will say is that I won't advocate for the violence,
- 26:56but I don't feel bad for the guy for participating in a system
- 26:59that fucking...
- 27:01denigrated and destroyed the lives of millions of people i mean
- 27:05when you create i
- 27:06wouldn't say participated i would say he made this system that
- 27:10way he helped well
- 27:11he worked but when you when you're when you have a book hey
- 27:16walter where is he he's
- 27:19coming we got all four of us hey what's up y'all we got the
- 27:23whole crew today hey
- 27:24friends sorry about that but i had a wonderful talk with
- 27:27elizabeth we'll be talking
- 27:28SPEAKER_01: with you on tuesday so good nice
- 27:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:31SPEAKER_01: So we're,
- 27:31SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 27:32SPEAKER_01: but when you create a book this thick that the first 10,
- 27:35SPEAKER_01: 15 pages say,
- 27:36SPEAKER_01: deny,
- 27:36SPEAKER_01: deny,
- 27:37SPEAKER_01: deny,
- 27:37SPEAKER_01: deny,
- 27:38SPEAKER_01: this is what happens.
- 27:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 27:40SPEAKER_01: You know, and it's, it's just another example of profits over patients.
- 27:44SPEAKER_00: I don't feel bad about it.
- 27:47SPEAKER_01: But,
- 27:48SPEAKER_01: and I,
- 27:48SPEAKER_01: and I've said this before,
- 27:49SPEAKER_01: if,
- 27:49if the insurance companies were forced to pay and adjudicate
- 27:53and pay out every
- 27:53SPEAKER_01: single claim that they came through,
- 27:56SPEAKER_01: they'd be bankrupt.
- 27:57SPEAKER_01: They just would be bankrupt.
- 27:58SPEAKER_01: They're just, it's just, there's just not enough money.
- 28:01So they deny services in order to hold back 5% to 15% of the
- 28:07money so that they're
- 28:08SPEAKER_01: making interest on,
- 28:09SPEAKER_01: right,
- 28:10SPEAKER_01: so that they have a cash flow.
- 28:12But then there are other procedures that they will flat out
- 28:14say,
- 28:14deny,
- 28:14deny,
- 28:15deny.
- 28:15SPEAKER_01: Oh,
- 28:16SPEAKER_01: we're going to call this experimental investigational,
- 28:18SPEAKER_01: even though there's evidence,
- 28:20SPEAKER_01: even though it's been researched.
- 28:22They are just things that they can just make the determination
- 28:25and we don't have to pay for it.
- 28:29SPEAKER_01: You know,
- 28:30SPEAKER_01: and as a subscriber,
- 28:32it's not like you have free market to go buy another insurance
- 28:35if you're working
- 28:35SPEAKER_01: for an employer who only offers this plan.
- 28:39SPEAKER_01: You're stuck.
- 28:40SPEAKER_01: You're stuck.
- 28:41And now you are now as an American citizen,
- 28:44you're now a slave to the insurance company.
- 28:46SPEAKER_01: You don't have a choice.
- 28:49SPEAKER_02: We have to use that word more often too, I think.
- 28:52SPEAKER_02: Walter, you use it a lot in a lot of ways.
- 28:55we're slaves to this walter uses a lot of words differently
- 28:58than we all define it
- 29:02evan did you have a point though it sounded like you were
- 29:04talking i don't know if
- 29:05SPEAKER_00: your mic cut out no i no go ahead walter
- 29:11SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
- 29:12SPEAKER_03: I mean, and we were just talking with Elizabeth.
- 29:15SPEAKER_03: I was talking about this,
- 29:15SPEAKER_03: how our legacy media is so complicit in this,
- 29:19where they establish the dynamic of the fight in a way that no
- 29:22matter what side we
- 29:23SPEAKER_03: pick,
- 29:24SPEAKER_03: we lose.
- 29:25SPEAKER_03: There's things we're just not doing.
- 29:26SPEAKER_03: even allowed to talk about.
- 29:28And like the,
- 29:29just the human rights violation of not having healthcare
- 29:33available to people.
- 29:34SPEAKER_03: And yeah, let's open up the books.
- 29:36SPEAKER_03: Let's see the transparency, you know, and I get that too.
- 29:39And it's the same thing as when these democratic candidates who
- 29:42have been in there
- 29:43SPEAKER_03: for 50 years,
- 29:43ask for 10 bucks and they've already made themselves a
- 29:46portfolio of 200 million
- 29:48SPEAKER_03: while they've been in office for decades.
- 29:50SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 29:50SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 29:51SPEAKER_03: It's like, you give me 10 bucks.
- 29:53SPEAKER_03: That's why I kind of keep waiting for,
- 29:55I keep hoping that one of these actual sitting Democrats will
- 29:58come and talk to me.
- 29:59I'm happy to keep talking to progressive challengers until one
- 30:02of those assholes shows up.
- 30:03SPEAKER_03: But it's going to start being, hey, what's your portfolio?
- 30:06SPEAKER_03: What's your net worth?
- 30:08SPEAKER_03: Why do you keep asking us for money?
- 30:12SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the kickbacks they're getting, there's just no transparency.
- 30:17SPEAKER_03: There's all this stuff that gets done behind closed doors.
- 30:19SPEAKER_03: And we just have to focus on our side.
- 30:22SPEAKER_03: You cannot defeat the other side until you are pure yourself.
- 30:26SPEAKER_03: So it's critical.
- 30:29SPEAKER_03: We have to purge Blue MAGA from our movement.
- 30:31SPEAKER_03: We have to start having these ideas about basic humanity.
- 30:34SPEAKER_03: We can't be embarrassed about them anymore.
- 30:37SPEAKER_03: And we just have to be...
- 30:38SPEAKER_03: We've said it a lot.
- 30:39SPEAKER_03: Unapologetically, you know, working for integrity.
- 30:44SPEAKER_00: Oh, 100%.
- 30:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 30:45SPEAKER_00: That's like the exact thing I said in the piece that I wrote last night.
- 30:50SPEAKER_00: Is that haven't we had enough?
- 30:52SPEAKER_00: Haven't we fucking been abused enough?
- 30:54SPEAKER_00: Haven't we been through enough bullshit?
- 30:56SPEAKER_00: Haven't we had enough of Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries?
- 30:59Oh,
- 30:59I think we've all had enough of,
- 31:01you know,
- 31:01we've all had enough of this Schumer.
- 31:02SPEAKER_00: We've all had enough of Shafri's.
- 31:08SPEAKER_00: Jesus fucking Christ, man.
- 31:11SPEAKER_00: Give me Chris Murphy and Ro Khanna for this new Democrat.
- 31:17SPEAKER_03: Ro Khanna just endorsed Francesca Hong.
- 31:21SPEAKER_03: I interviewed her two months ago.
- 31:22SPEAKER_03: I saw that.
- 31:23SPEAKER_03: I was so excited about that.
- 31:25SPEAKER_03: Maybe Ro would come.
- 31:27SPEAKER_00: Oh, I bet Ro Khanna would come.
- 31:29SPEAKER_00: I bet we could get some time.
- 31:32SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
- 31:32I'm going to ask Francesca's campaign and see if they want to
- 31:35come on here and just
- 31:36SPEAKER_03: propose it.
- 31:36SPEAKER_03: Like I've been saying, it's like, help us build.
- 31:39SPEAKER_03: I mean, because we are the independent media.
- 31:41SPEAKER_03: We're the ones that are actually legitimately covering.
- 31:42SPEAKER_03: We're doing the groundwork.
- 31:44And then like all these progressive,
- 31:45I've been,
- 31:46it's like,
- 31:46it is healthy to have.
- 31:47SPEAKER_03: have robust primaries.
- 31:49It's healthy to have four,
- 31:50five,
- 31:50six Democrats canvassing a district,
- 31:52getting people excited.
- 31:53The establishment blue mega Democrats have been calling these
- 31:56people on the phone,
- 31:57SPEAKER_03: telling them to get out of the race.
- 31:59SPEAKER_03: I'm like, well, you got time to call them and tell them to quit.
- 32:02You got time to sit on a call with me,
- 32:04you know,
- 32:04and they refuse to do that.
- 32:06I don't know if you guys caught the conversation I had
- 32:08yesterday with that Alduina.
- 32:10SPEAKER_03: She's running a campaign for Congress.
- 32:14SPEAKER_03: It's like, I do not want money, she says.
- 32:16SPEAKER_03: No donations, no endorsements.
- 32:18SPEAKER_03: And she's got kids.
- 32:19SPEAKER_03: She's having high school kids help her with the campaign.
- 32:22SPEAKER_03: And the whole idea is to say, you can run for office with no money.
- 32:26SPEAKER_03: You have the power.
- 32:27SPEAKER_03: All you have to do is organize.
- 32:29SPEAKER_03: It's not their entitlement.
- 32:30SPEAKER_03: We can just grab it.
- 32:31SPEAKER_03: She's teaching.
- 32:32SPEAKER_03: I'm just like, holy shit.
- 32:34SPEAKER_03: And this is such a great story, like the children's campaign.
- 32:36SPEAKER_03: She accepts help from disabled people and children,
- 32:40the two groups that are completely ignored by our entire
- 32:42political movement.
- 32:43SPEAKER_03: I was sitting there with Natasha.
- 32:45SPEAKER_03: We were both like in tears just talking to her because she was just so,
- 32:48SPEAKER_03: it was just so inspiring.
- 32:49SPEAKER_03: And this is the kind of story that we love.
- 32:51SPEAKER_03: We're all tired of getting these $10.
- 32:53SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to do anything, but give me $10.
- 32:55SPEAKER_03: Her movement is I'm going to teach a bunch of kids to run for office.
- 32:59SPEAKER_02: Walter, can you get me
- 33:02in contact with her i'd love to have a discussion because
- 33:04that's like beautiful it
- 33:06was so beautiful yeah the beautiful thing about i'm sorry i
- 33:09missed that live that
- 33:10was probably just to see walter cry would have been oh it's not
- 33:14the first time it
- 33:15wasn't the first time and i said to her because she burst into
- 33:19tears and she was
- 33:19SPEAKER_03: like i'm sorry for like no and that's like here's the thing those those
- 33:23conservatives mistake our tears for weakness and this is power
- 33:27because that can
- 33:27SPEAKER_03: turn to rage pretty damn quick
- 33:29SPEAKER_03: It's that real rage of a father who wants to defend his fucking kids.
- 33:34It's like one of the things you want to see me crying because
- 33:37you don't want to see me angry.
- 33:39You better start treating my kids better because hell has no
- 33:43fury when you start
- 33:44SPEAKER_03: fucking with my kids.
- 33:46SPEAKER_01: Hell has no fury like Walter Scorn.
- 33:48The work she's doing is incredible to activate young people to
- 33:53make them realize
- 33:54SPEAKER_02: the next generation to make them realize that civic
- 33:58like virtue and getting into civics has a low bar of entry and
- 34:03can be a low bar to
- 34:04enter not a not a unqualified bar but a bar of like it's not
- 34:11for rich people it's
- 34:12not for people who go to law school it's not for constitutional
- 34:17scholars congress
- 34:19is for the people and the house of representatives is
- 34:22specifically for the people
- 34:25SPEAKER_02: And we need to have people who go in and who teach and who are like,
- 34:29SPEAKER_02: hey,
- 34:30SPEAKER_02: my campaign was run without big dollar donations.
- 34:32SPEAKER_02: And I didn't accept any.
- 34:34And all these high schoolers helped me get elected because they
- 34:36were part of the community.
- 34:37SPEAKER_02: And guess what?
- 34:38SPEAKER_02: Now all these high schoolers, they want to go into politics.
- 34:41SPEAKER_02: And now we have a new generation of young people who are engaged,
- 34:43SPEAKER_02: who are active,
- 34:44SPEAKER_02: who are ready to organize,
- 34:45SPEAKER_02: who are ready to fight,
- 34:46SPEAKER_02: who are ready to go on offense for a larger democracy.
- 34:50SPEAKER_02: We need more of that.
- 34:51SPEAKER_02: And that's fucking awesome.
- 34:53SPEAKER_01: And Walter, the reason why, oh, go ahead.
- 34:57SPEAKER_00: No, go ahead.
- 34:57SPEAKER_00: No,
- 34:57SPEAKER_01: I was going to tell Walter that before you came on,
- 34:59SPEAKER_01: we were discussing,
- 35:00SPEAKER_01: I was talking about how the keynote speaker,
- 35:05SPEAKER_01: Kate Rubins,
- 35:07SPEAKER_01: PhD,
- 35:07SPEAKER_01: who was,
- 35:08SPEAKER_01: she spent 100 days on the International Space Station doing translational
- 35:11scientific research in microbiology and was the first person to
- 35:15sequence DNA
- 35:18SPEAKER_01: outside the atmosphere of the US,
- 35:20SPEAKER_01: of the entire world,
- 35:21SPEAKER_01: really.
- 35:22SPEAKER_01: traveling at 17 and a half thousand miles an hour.
- 35:25SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 35:25SPEAKER_01: Which is kind of unique and pretty cool.
- 35:27But what it's what it does is I had related it back to the cuts
- 35:30at the NIH about
- 35:32SPEAKER_01: how all these all this funding cuts,
- 35:34this 18 billion that this fucking administration is cutting out
- 35:38of our research and
- 35:40how this downstream effect has on younger collegiate students
- 35:44who can't and will
- 35:46SPEAKER_01: not move into research because there's no funding.
- 35:51that they can't get their laboratories running at university
- 35:54levels and you're
- 35:56SPEAKER_01: relying on private endowments and private,
- 35:58SPEAKER_01: which always have their own little agendas,
- 36:01SPEAKER_01: you know?
- 36:02SPEAKER_01: And like,
- 36:03SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 36:03SPEAKER_01: now you're beholden to some private donor to get his wants research done,
- 36:08SPEAKER_01: dah,
- 36:08SPEAKER_01: dah,
- 36:08SPEAKER_01: dah,
- 36:08SPEAKER_01: dah.
- 36:09SPEAKER_01: So that's,
- 36:10SPEAKER_01: this is how,
- 36:10SPEAKER_01: but like to hear a story like this with younger people getting involved,
- 36:13SPEAKER_01: it's just,
- 36:15SPEAKER_01: it's very heartening.
- 36:16SPEAKER_01: All right, guys, it's 1.15.
- 36:17SPEAKER_01: I have to run to a meeting.
- 36:18SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much.
- 36:21SPEAKER_03: I love you, man.
- 36:22SPEAKER_01: We'll see you again next week.
- 36:24SPEAKER_01: I try to be a little, you know, spiffy.
- 36:27SPEAKER_01: Great.
- 36:28SPEAKER_02: Go follow Eric, too.
- 36:30SPEAKER_02: Everyone in the audience,
- 36:31SPEAKER_02: while Eric is dropping off,
- 36:32SPEAKER_02: I'm going to pull up his QR code real quick.
- 36:34SPEAKER_02: Guys, have a great rest of the day.
- 36:36SPEAKER_02: I love you guys.
- 36:36SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Eric.
- 36:37SPEAKER_02: Thanks, brother.
- 36:37SPEAKER_02: All right, buddy.
- 36:40SPEAKER_00: Love you.
- 36:40SPEAKER_02: Ciao.
- 36:41SPEAKER_02: While Eric drops, everyone go follow Eric.
- 36:43SPEAKER_02: Go support his work.
- 36:45SPEAKER_02: He's incredible.
- 36:46SPEAKER_02: He's doing a lot of really good stuff.
- 36:48a lot of really good work he works alongside blue amp media and
- 36:52is one of this is a
- 36:53medical editor there and talks all about this medical policy um
- 36:58and what we need to
- 36:58do to fix shit so all just extra work and he's doing this all
- 37:03on top of his job
- 37:05he's not asking for money he doesn't want he doesn't have paid
- 37:08subscribers go join
- 37:09SPEAKER_02: him for free
- 37:10SPEAKER_02: Follow his work, support what he's doing.
- 37:12And that's all we ask for on this one is just go support his
- 37:16work for free because
- 37:17SPEAKER_02: that's what he's doing.
- 37:17He's freely putting all this out there for us to learn from and
- 37:21grow off of.
- 37:21SPEAKER_02: So go support our brother, Eric.
- 37:24because holy shit yeah he's great just having that insight from
- 37:28the reality because
- 37:29sooner or later you're going to have medical issues friends I
- 37:32mean this isn't like
- 37:33this isn't a wishful thinking moment put your head in the
- 37:36you're good I know I'm
- 37:37old enough now where things have fallen apart and it's just
- 37:39sort of like shit
- 37:40better get this fixed you know yeah and I feel really bad for
- 37:46anyone who doesn't
- 37:47have the VA like and the VA is not perfect the VA is not great
- 37:52all the time
- 37:53SPEAKER_02: it has saved my life multiple times.
- 37:56SPEAKER_02: It,
- 37:57SPEAKER_02: a doctor there made me want to kill myself,
- 37:59SPEAKER_02: but there are many other instances of when I wanted to,
- 38:03SPEAKER_02: like the VA was there for me and saved my life.
- 38:06SPEAKER_02: And the doctor wasn't the VA's fault.
- 38:09SPEAKER_02: It was, that was just a bad doctor.
- 38:11SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 38:12and I can separate those two things into what they actually are
- 38:16is the VA is a
- 38:17SPEAKER_02: great service.
- 38:18SPEAKER_02: I feel so fucking bad.
- 38:20SPEAKER_02: for anyone who doesn't have that type of service in their life.
- 38:24Like I feel bad for myself because I have to pay for my fucking
- 38:27kids to get health insurance.
- 38:30SPEAKER_02: And well,
- 38:31I actually don't have to pay right now for it because I have
- 38:34the champ VA because
- 38:35SPEAKER_02: I'm broke as shit.
- 38:36SPEAKER_02: I'm on a fucking, uh, I'm on a fixed income.
- 38:43SPEAKER_02: Like,
- 38:44we were trying to build i'm trying to build this business while
- 38:47my wife is trying
- 38:48to actively build a business herself like we don't have a ton
- 38:51of money we don't
- 38:52have real medical insurance outside of champ va for our kids
- 38:58but my wife and i are
- 38:59covered we never have to worry about paying for prescription
- 39:02medicine costs we
- 39:03SPEAKER_02: never have to worry about
- 39:06SPEAKER_02: Going to the doctor, we are always guaranteed at least one visit a year.
- 39:11SPEAKER_02: We're always guaranteed to be able to see someone.
- 39:13SPEAKER_02: We get the services for the most part that we need.
- 39:17SPEAKER_02: And yes, they do sometimes get denied.
- 39:19I've had things denied on me,
- 39:20which I'm frustrated about and I'm not happy with.
- 39:25SPEAKER_02: But I don't have to pay for it out of pocket.
- 39:29SPEAKER_02: I don't have to pay extra for it.
- 39:32SPEAKER_02: I already pay for it.
- 39:33SPEAKER_02: We pay in our taxes for it.
- 39:35SPEAKER_02: Y'all help pay for my medical care.
- 39:39SPEAKER_02: Y'all help pay for my kids' medical care, my wife's medical care.
- 39:42SPEAKER_02: Everybody should have that fucking service.
- 39:45SPEAKER_02: That's all I want.
- 39:46SPEAKER_02: And someone in the chat, I think it was PJ, was saying that...
- 39:50Qasem Rashid Esquire had a guest on just a little while ago
- 39:54interviewing a
- 39:55SPEAKER_02: candidate running against Bob Menendez Jr.
- 39:58SPEAKER_02: in New Jersey.
- 39:59SPEAKER_02: Good.
- 40:00SPEAKER_02: And they're proudly for universal health care.
- 40:02SPEAKER_00: The sun is running?
- 40:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 40:05SPEAKER_02: Like,
- 40:05SPEAKER_02: we should be,
- 40:06SPEAKER_02: everyone,
- 40:07SPEAKER_02: the Democratic Party,
- 40:09SPEAKER_02: or our platform,
- 40:11SPEAKER_02: the pro-democracy platform,
- 40:13SPEAKER_02: for me,
- 40:14SPEAKER_02: is universal health care,
- 40:16SPEAKER_02: abolish ICE,
- 40:18SPEAKER_02: universal education,
- 40:20SPEAKER_02: universal housing,
- 40:21SPEAKER_02: social services,
- 40:22SPEAKER_02: and a basic universal income,
- 40:27SPEAKER_02: wealth minimum,
- 40:28SPEAKER_02: and wealth cap.
- 40:30SPEAKER_02: And yes,
- 40:31those sound radical if you live in a country that is captured
- 40:37by conservatism and
- 40:38fascism where everything that is for people and not for
- 40:43corporations or for
- 40:45SPEAKER_02: oligarchs is seen as radical.
- 40:48SPEAKER_02: it's seen as radical that I want universal fucking healthcare,
- 40:51but I don't want to anybody else to have to pay out of pocket
- 40:54to get services,
- 40:55SPEAKER_02: universal healthcare,
- 40:56SPEAKER_02: including vision,
- 40:57SPEAKER_02: dental,
- 40:58SPEAKER_02: all of it from tip of your tip of your head to the bottom of your feet,
- 41:02SPEAKER_02: to the ends of your toes.
- 41:03SPEAKER_02: Every single thing should be covered through our taxes.
- 41:06SPEAKER_02: It's not free healthcare.
- 41:08SPEAKER_02: It's,
- 41:08SPEAKER_02: I don't buy that fucking stupid ass lie.
- 41:12SPEAKER_02: It's not free healthcare.
- 41:13SPEAKER_02: We pay for it in our taxes.
- 41:16And what we need to do to get there is tax the rich so that the
- 41:20Epstein and pedo
- 41:21class come down a peg or two or five or 10 or all of them fall
- 41:27off that fucking
- 41:28SPEAKER_02: ladder of greed and get brought back to earth.
- 41:32And then face consequences for the actions that they have taken
- 41:35while they're in
- 41:35SPEAKER_02: this untouchable class because they are not untouchable.
- 41:39SPEAKER_02: We're not supposed to have a two-tiered system of justice in the US.
- 41:42SPEAKER_02: Yes, we do.
- 41:43SPEAKER_02: We absolutely do.
- 41:44SPEAKER_02: It is the rich and it is all the rest of us.
- 41:47SPEAKER_02: That's the two-tier system.
- 41:49SPEAKER_02: We can get rid of that.
- 41:50All we have to do is advocate for it and continue to talk to
- 41:53progressive candidates
- 41:54SPEAKER_02: that Walter is talking to,
- 41:56SPEAKER_02: continue to get them out there.
- 41:58SPEAKER_02: I have connections with folks like Lev Parnas who can help
- 42:02SPEAKER_02: interview and get messages out for other candidates as well.
- 42:06SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, nerd, stop pulling on my cords.
- 42:11SPEAKER_02: Don't be doing that, little man.
- 42:13SPEAKER_02: That's not cool.
- 42:14SPEAKER_02: Don't pull on cords.
- 42:15SPEAKER_02: You're going to break something.
- 42:17SPEAKER_02: No, you're going to break something.
- 42:18SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
- 42:21SPEAKER_02: The cords.
- 42:22SPEAKER_03: He's pouring his juice into the fan.
- 42:25SPEAKER_02: Don't be pulling on the cord for my webcam.
- 42:30SPEAKER_02: Then people can't see me.
- 42:32SPEAKER_03: I'm going to have to appeal to you, Evan, and have you come on.
- 42:35SPEAKER_03: We still haven't had our talk.
- 42:37SPEAKER_03: I'm looking forward to just a one-on-one with you at some point.
- 42:39SPEAKER_03: We won't get it.
- 42:40SPEAKER_03: But here's my thing going forward.
- 42:42SPEAKER_03: Oh, go ahead.
- 42:43SPEAKER_03: Sorry.
- 42:43SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
- 42:44SPEAKER_03: Go.
- 42:45SPEAKER_03: I was going to say my thing is,
- 42:47SPEAKER_03: from now on,
- 42:47SPEAKER_03: it's one candidate,
- 42:49SPEAKER_03: one creator,
- 42:50SPEAKER_03: and me on either side.
- 42:52SPEAKER_03: And so I'm going to keep doing this.
- 42:53SPEAKER_03: Bring in a creator.
- 42:54SPEAKER_03: Bring in a candidate.
- 42:55SPEAKER_03: And then now that you have this video of you interviewing a candidate,
- 42:58SPEAKER_03: you can appeal to everybody else on my list,
- 42:59SPEAKER_03: all these other people.
- 43:00the candidates and then you bring in a different creator and
- 43:03then that person does
- 43:04the same thing until and because what we're saying you know we
- 43:08have to get we got
- 43:08to start saying words like end the privatization tax because
- 43:12the reason we pay so
- 43:13SPEAKER_03: much is because we have to pay this additional
- 43:15SPEAKER_03: tax that makes billionaires rich.
- 43:18SPEAKER_03: And we just have to control that narrative.
- 43:19The legacy media deliberately doesn't cover primaries because
- 43:24it's easier for them
- 43:25to rig and give us this illusion of a choice between two bought
- 43:29and paid for
- 43:29SPEAKER_03: candidates.
- 43:31SPEAKER_03: If we take control of the primaries, even now people aren't
- 43:34SPEAKER_03: There's been a lot of change this week.
- 43:36SPEAKER_03: I've seen a lot of people do it.
- 43:37I had like three or four more people just interviewing these
- 43:39candidates just this week.
- 43:41SPEAKER_03: We are under the gun right now because the primaries are coming up.
- 43:44SPEAKER_03: Some of them are already going.
- 43:45SPEAKER_03: And if we can get Substack, make it a Substack trend where it
- 43:49SPEAKER_03: just explodes.
- 43:50SPEAKER_03: All we're doing is giving all this attention.
- 43:52SPEAKER_03: These bigger names have to be involved.
- 43:55SPEAKER_03: The bigger the name, the better.
- 43:56SPEAKER_03: I talked with Emily Berge yesterday on the Daily Whatever.
- 44:00SPEAKER_03: She's got a real chance.
- 44:02SPEAKER_03: It's either her or Rebecca Cook.
- 44:04in this district,
- 44:05and Rebecca Cook's the one that takes the donations from AIPAC.
- 44:08SPEAKER_03: So people got to know that, right?
- 44:10SPEAKER_03: And legacy media doesn't tell you anything about these candidates.
- 44:14They just push the anointed Democratic candidate that will
- 44:18maintain the status quo,
- 44:19and all we'll get is the same mess we got in 2021 when the
- 44:23voters gave Democrats
- 44:24SPEAKER_03: enough power to stop fascism.
- 44:26SPEAKER_03: The voters said, we don't want this.
- 44:28SPEAKER_03: Democrats didn't do a goddamn thing.
- 44:31SPEAKER_03: They allowed this to happen.
- 44:32SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 44:34SPEAKER_03: So we need a new generation of leaders.
- 44:36SPEAKER_03: And the way we do it is with the primaries.
- 44:37SPEAKER_03: Primaries, primaries, primaries.
- 44:39SPEAKER_03: Everybody's got to be talking about one candidate, one creator.
- 44:42SPEAKER_03: It's a nuclear reaction that expands.
- 44:44SPEAKER_03: I'm excited.
- 44:45SPEAKER_02: And we're going to be doing like
- 44:48SPEAKER_02: I'm,
- 44:48SPEAKER_02: after our show today,
- 44:50SPEAKER_02: I have a one-on-one meeting to get to know Kira,
- 44:55SPEAKER_02: I forget her last name,
- 44:58SPEAKER_02: from the Citizens Impeachment Organization,
- 45:01SPEAKER_02: and I am so excited to get to meet her,
- 45:04SPEAKER_02: and then we're going to schedule interviews,
- 45:05SPEAKER_02: and then I'm going to follow up with other interviews,
- 45:07SPEAKER_02: hopefully,
- 45:08SPEAKER_02: from other candidates,
- 45:09SPEAKER_02: and we're going to talk to a lot of people.
- 45:12SPEAKER_02: I want to be able to get her on also
- 45:14SPEAKER_02: with Lev Parnas,
- 45:16SPEAKER_02: with groups,
- 45:16SPEAKER_02: with folks like that,
- 45:17SPEAKER_02: because he's running for Congress and I'm supporting his campaign.
- 45:22SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 45:23SPEAKER_02: Not financially.
- 45:23SPEAKER_02: I am supporting his campaign.
- 45:25SPEAKER_02: No, I'm helping to grow it.
- 45:27SPEAKER_02: Like I think,
- 45:29SPEAKER_02: yes,
- 45:30he has had issues in his past and he's not using the campaign
- 45:34itself to recuperate
- 45:36SPEAKER_02: his image.
- 45:37SPEAKER_02: He's done that ahead of time.
- 45:38He's working on that ahead of time and he's using the campaign
- 45:42to actually campaign for change.
- 45:44SPEAKER_02: And because he's not taking super PAC money, he's not taking APAC money.
- 45:50He's taking small grassroots donations and your donations to
- 45:54help him run.
- 45:55SPEAKER_02: And he's using his own money to help himself run.
- 45:58SPEAKER_02: He's not taking the large donations.
- 46:00And the fact that he's not doing that encourages me that he's
- 46:03willing to listen to
- 46:04SPEAKER_02: other candidates too who also aren't doing that.
- 46:07SPEAKER_02: Because he's very against APAC.
- 46:09He knows exactly what they're doing and the destruction of the
- 46:11states because of it
- 46:13SPEAKER_02: and what's happening around that.
- 46:15SPEAKER_02: And getting these candidates together with others exposes them.
- 46:20And if we have someone who does have a large media like
- 46:23national platform who can
- 46:25get that message out there and help support us getting that
- 46:29message out there and
- 46:30who'd be willing to come on and talk with Walter and I and have
- 46:33an interview
- 46:34SPEAKER_02: himself,
- 46:34SPEAKER_02: like that's going to be part of this too,
- 46:36is he's going to come on for interviews with creators like us
- 46:40because it's
- 46:41SPEAKER_02: important.
- 46:42SPEAKER_02: Walter is a trusted name.
- 46:43SPEAKER_02: I'm like,
- 46:45Walter is a trusted name for these and he's becoming more and
- 46:48more trusted.
- 46:49SPEAKER_02: And the more that we expose these,
- 46:51SPEAKER_02: the better,
- 46:52SPEAKER_02: like then people actually know who they're fucking voting for.
- 46:54And then we can actually have real primaries where the
- 46:56democratic party isn't
- 46:58SPEAKER_02: buying off candidates.
- 47:01SPEAKER_03: The people in the district should decide who represents them.
- 47:04SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 47:05SPEAKER_03: That's how, that's what, what was written.
- 47:06SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, we can change this though.
- 47:09SPEAKER_03: We hate, we do the power.
- 47:10SPEAKER_03: We just need the motivation and the effort.
- 47:12SPEAKER_03: And I think we have that too.
- 47:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
- 47:14and I'm not going to ever invite Cory Booker on because he
- 47:16takes a shitload of APAC
- 47:18SPEAKER_02: money.
- 47:19SPEAKER_03: Well, if he wants to talk, I have a few things to say to him.
- 47:22yeah i have a few things to say but i doubt he'd want to talk
- 47:25um but i would be
- 47:26willing i mean he might have to they have to be i'd be willing
- 47:29to talk to rokhana
- 47:30especially oh god the role would be awesome i would love to
- 47:33talk to him and i bet
- 47:34he's not gonna talk to anybody you're right he's not gonna he
- 47:38is such a chicken
- 47:39shit coward he was pretending the other day that he doesn't
- 47:43even know who hasan
- 47:44SPEAKER_00: piker is
- 47:45He was like,
- 47:47I haven't heard of this person until my staff told me the other
- 47:50day.
- 47:51SPEAKER_00: Cory Booker is a fucking sociopath.
- 47:53That dude can do nothing but lie and try to play the nice guy
- 47:58game and everything
- 47:59SPEAKER_00: while he's just a puppet for APAC.
- 48:03And I think that goes to the larger point of why Walter said
- 48:08it's more important
- 48:09that we have to get these progressive candidates out there is
- 48:11because somebody like
- 48:12SPEAKER_00: Cory Booker has the access to
- 48:15SPEAKER_00: every mainstream media platform that he wants.
- 48:18SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
- 48:19SPEAKER_00: And I think,
- 48:21SPEAKER_02: yes,
- 48:21all of what you guys have been talking about for the past
- 48:23couple of minutes kind of
- 48:24SPEAKER_00: goes into the piece that I put out yesterday is that
- 48:28SPEAKER_00: Nick,
- 48:28you were saying that everybody deserves to have access to
- 48:32health care and stuff
- 48:33SPEAKER_00: like we do with the VA and everything.
- 48:36And I was talking about in the piece that I put out yesterday
- 48:38that I grew up living
- 48:41SPEAKER_00: on an Air Force base with medical health insurance,
- 48:46SPEAKER_00: everything provided for me.
- 48:47SPEAKER_00: Nobody that I grew up with was homeless.
- 48:51SPEAKER_00: that I grew up with,
- 48:52SPEAKER_00: went hungry or anything,
- 48:53everybody had access to medical care and dent care and could
- 48:57get taken care of.
- 48:58And they lived in a place where the community was safe and you
- 49:02could leave your
- 49:02front door unlocked if you left the house and you need a
- 49:06community that actually
- 49:08SPEAKER_00: served the community.
- 49:10SPEAKER_00: And why the fuck did I have access to that as a kid?
- 49:14SPEAKER_00: But
- 49:17a black or brown family or an immigrant family in dallas texas
- 49:21or something like
- 49:21that in a poor neighborhood why don't they have access to that
- 49:24because they pay
- 49:25taxes too they pay taxes just like the rest of us so they
- 49:28should have access to a
- 49:30neighborhood like that and an upbringing like that and a life
- 49:33like that and the
- 49:34SPEAKER_00: only way that we get that
- 49:36is if we root out these centrist candidates that are just
- 49:39giving us more of the
- 49:40same like walter said and the ones that the mainstream media
- 49:44are pushing and they
- 49:45give access to and that's why it's so important for independent
- 49:49media to be able to
- 49:50like interview these candidates and why we have to support each
- 49:54other like i just
- 49:55talked to well lev messaged me yesterday about doing an
- 49:58interview and everything
- 50:00SPEAKER_00: about oh awesome and
- 50:02SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to start.
- 50:04And the main thing that I've been looking at is I want to this
- 50:07district in Colorado
- 50:09five has been a fucking Republican stronghold forever in
- 50:14Colorado Springs,
- 50:15SPEAKER_00: Castle Rock,
- 50:15SPEAKER_00: like the area just south of Denver.
- 50:17SPEAKER_00: That's where I live.
- 50:18SPEAKER_00: And it's
- 50:21i don't know colorado's weird because it's like the whole state
- 50:25has been turning
- 50:26blue and everything for the last 10 years as long as i've been
- 50:28here but this strong
- 50:30the stranglehold in colorado springs that they have it's you
- 50:34just can't break it
- 50:35you know i mean it's where there's a large evangelical
- 50:39population there's been it's
- 50:40where the planned parenthood shooting was and everything and
- 50:44we've had doug lamborn
- 50:46SPEAKER_00: and now jeff crank and they're these hardcore maga people that just
- 50:51get elect get reelected off of the pro-life candidate and
- 50:56appealing to evangelicals
- 50:58and we've got to talk to these people that are more progressive
- 51:02candidates and get
- 51:03them some more shine and everything on independent media so
- 51:07that they can get
- 51:08elected i mean i think you make great points walter about like
- 51:13having a creator and
- 51:15a candidate on there so that like you create this ecosystem and
- 51:18stuff you know
- 51:19SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
- 51:20SPEAKER_03: yeah,
- 51:20and just send that send that link and i've been saying keep it
- 51:23short and sweet say
- 51:24i've been when i approach candidates i'm like hey i'm a creator
- 51:26this will be a free
- 51:27interview whenever you want all you need is a Substack account
- 51:30here's an example of
- 51:31what uh what it's like and then that's it you know just you
- 51:35don't have to send like
- 51:35pages and pages and pages and i've been so astounded by all
- 51:39these candidates i've
- 51:40i've never even really i'm just like are you you know are you
- 51:43gonna vote to impeach
- 51:44SPEAKER_03: okay that's all i need to know
- 51:45And I've just been,
- 51:46every single one I've talked to,
- 51:47they're absolutely brilliant.
- 51:48Because again,
- 51:49the mainstream media,
- 51:50the legacy media does not talk to experts about anything.
- 51:53SPEAKER_03: They are deliberately shut off.
- 51:55SPEAKER_03: And these just brilliant,
- 51:57SPEAKER_03: active people that want change,
- 51:59SPEAKER_03: people of integrity and authenticity,
- 52:01SPEAKER_03: they don't speak like politicians.
- 52:03SPEAKER_03: Every single time I talk to one, I just feel hopeful for the future.
- 52:08SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 52:09SPEAKER_00: That's what you've noticed that.
- 52:10Like the candidates are speaking more like normal people rather
- 52:13than using like the
- 52:14SPEAKER_00: talking points of the party and stuff like that.
- 52:17SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 52:17SPEAKER_03: And just the fact that they're willing to talk to me.
- 52:19SPEAKER_00: And that's what people are looking for.
- 52:20SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 52:21SPEAKER_03: The first thing I say when they come on is say,
- 52:23thank you for being the new generation of politician that is
- 52:26willing to talk to
- 52:27SPEAKER_03: just a regular person like me.
- 52:29SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
- 52:30SPEAKER_03: Because that's the message.
- 52:31Because we have to remove the incumbents because the incumbents
- 52:35fucked us.
- 52:36SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's basically what it comes down to.
- 52:39yeah we i mean you can't fix a system with the same broken
- 52:45candidates yes and you
- 52:47try to get a hold of those people and they won't answer you
- 52:50they won't reply they
- 52:51won't give you the time of day they won't do anything it's just
- 52:58the whole system's
- 52:58frustrating but i think that we're doing the work to try and
- 53:01change it like i think
- 53:03SPEAKER_00: that's such a great idea that you have walter is
- 53:07SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 53:08SPEAKER_00: Introducing each other to the candidates and everything.
- 53:13SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
- 53:13SPEAKER_03: And these candidates that are the grassroots ones,
- 53:16SPEAKER_03: they're canvassing,
- 53:16SPEAKER_03: they're knocking on doors,
- 53:18SPEAKER_03: they're using all the old tactics.
- 53:20Big money isn't going to win these because people are fed up
- 53:22with watching these AI
- 53:23SPEAKER_03: generated ads and bullshit.
- 53:25SPEAKER_03: It's like, you know, it's like you can win a campaign.
- 53:28campaign with you know they might have 80 million dollars but
- 53:31if you've got enough
- 53:32to just knock on every door in the district it only takes
- 53:35sometimes only takes like
- 53:3620 000 votes and we're still like six months away if you have
- 53:39people talking about
- 53:40it and then through these talks people in that district and
- 53:43like oh holy shit that
- 53:44person's in my district and bit by bit we keep expanding and
- 53:47getting bigger and
- 53:47empowering these people we can beat them without money that's
- 53:50what that edwina
- 53:51SPEAKER_03: edwina said edwina english
- 53:53fantastic i'm so inspired by it and yeah we're gonna we're not
- 53:56gonna let him beat
- 53:57us again no no and we don't have to like we don't we don't have
- 54:04to we can just keep
- 54:05doing what we're doing and yet our friend neuro says in the
- 54:08chat too is they have
- 54:09stream yard i she is streamer we have we have restream here you
- 54:14don't actually have
- 54:14SPEAKER_02: to have aSubstack account i mean it's helpful if they want to have like a
- 54:20easy access to the video afterwards so we don't have to send it
- 54:23to them and they
- 54:25SPEAKER_02: can get their own clips and they can use it,
- 54:27SPEAKER_02: which is the advantage of having a Substack account for it.
- 54:31SPEAKER_02: But they don't even need that.
- 54:32SPEAKER_02: We just need them on.
- 54:33SPEAKER_02: Like,
- 54:34SPEAKER_02: yes,
- 54:34as long as they're willing to talk to us and come on to these
- 54:37discussions,
- 54:38that's the most important part of it is like being able to talk
- 54:43to them and just
- 54:44SPEAKER_02: see that there and have them show that who they actually are.
- 54:49SPEAKER_02: And are they people?
- 54:50SPEAKER_02: Are they willing to listen to us?
- 54:52SPEAKER_02: Are they trying to run away with our money and just enrich themselves?
- 54:57SPEAKER_02: Or are they there to actually do the damn job?
- 55:00SPEAKER_02: And if they're not going to do the job,
- 55:02SPEAKER_02: which right now that job is progress, is to fix the system.
- 55:07If they're not willing to fix and progress,
- 55:10then they're not the right candidate.
- 55:12SPEAKER_02: And we're allowed to say that.
- 55:13SPEAKER_02: That's what primaries are fucking for.
- 55:15SPEAKER_02: Don't let the party tell you, oh, we have to be united right now.
- 55:20SPEAKER_02: We have to always be united.
- 55:24SPEAKER_02: No.
- 55:24SPEAKER_02: They didn't support Mom Donnie.
- 55:26SPEAKER_02: They still don't support Mom Donnie.
- 55:30SPEAKER_02: And he's accomplishing incredible fucking things.
- 55:32SPEAKER_02: He is an example of someone who listened to the people.
- 55:36SPEAKER_03: Go ahead, Evan.
- 55:39I was going to say on March 5th that four Democrats voted with
- 55:43the Republicans to
- 55:44SPEAKER_03: allow this war to continue.
- 55:46SPEAKER_03: It was on the House floor.
- 55:48SPEAKER_03: The resolution, I think it was 38th.
- 55:51Two of the Republicans actually voted with the Democrats to
- 55:56stop the war.
- 55:57SPEAKER_03: And four Democrats defected and voted with the Republicans to allow it.
- 56:02SPEAKER_03: And we're just supposed to forget about these things,
- 56:03SPEAKER_03: these betrayals of these establishment Democrats.
- 56:06SPEAKER_03: Again and again and again,
- 56:07they find just enough Democrats to allow the Republican
- 56:11authoritarian regime to
- 56:12SPEAKER_03: just march all over us and waste our money and hurt our kids.
- 56:16And we're just supposed to just forget about that and support
- 56:18them without question?
- 56:19that's that's bullshit they need to answer for that yeah they
- 56:24have to like they
- 56:28have to be able to push back against us like it's fucking
- 56:33bullshit that we have all
- 56:36these folks who are in office right now who are refusing to do
- 56:40just a simple
- 56:41SPEAKER_02: fucking task like that's all we're really asking um
- 56:47All we're asking is a simple task for them to do,
- 56:50and they just refuse to do it.
- 56:52SPEAKER_00: I think that's what people... Yeah, go ahead.
- 57:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
- 57:01SPEAKER_00: and I think that whole big fight last week,
- 57:03SPEAKER_00: we saw the hiker and the comments that he made about...
- 57:10Gavin Newsom about how if he was the candidate he wouldn't vote
- 57:13for him he kind of
- 57:14walked it back but I think that that's the point that he was
- 57:17trying to make is that
- 57:20we have to stop being beholden to these centrist corporate
- 57:24we're just going to do
- 57:24the same old shit who aren't going to think about us we have to
- 57:28ensure that like
- 57:28we're highlighting these progressive candidates who are going
- 57:31to actually work for
- 57:33SPEAKER_00: us you know what I mean and the goal is to make
- 57:36a progressive like that the candidate over Gavin Newsom instead
- 57:40of just falling
- 57:41into the same old trap because he's got a nice smile and you
- 57:44think he's a good
- 57:45person like I saw a thing yesterday like Gavin Newsom is not
- 57:49your fucking friend I
- 57:50saw an article yesterday about how him and his wife what did he
- 57:55say his wife said
- 57:57that she was shocked to find out that their son thought Andrew
- 58:01Tate was cool and
- 58:03SPEAKER_00: this was after the whole thing with
- 58:06SPEAKER_00: Remember when Newsom started the podcast,
- 58:09SPEAKER_00: he was like,
- 58:09SPEAKER_00: oh,
- 58:10SPEAKER_00: my son's so excited to have Charlie Kirk was coming on.
- 58:14SPEAKER_00: Like, this dude is not a progressive candidate.
- 58:17SPEAKER_00: If he's raising a son like that at home and his son –
- 58:27SPEAKER_02: What do you think the kind of shit that he's paying attention to is?
- 58:31And you think that that's going to be the candidate that's
- 58:33going to lead you to
- 58:34SPEAKER_00: advance progressive values and policy and everything.
- 58:37SPEAKER_00: Like you have to look at someone like AOC who's come out and said like,
- 58:42SPEAKER_00: no more money for fucking Israel.
- 58:44SPEAKER_00: Like she said, I'm drawing the line.
- 58:47Like those are the kind of stances and red lines that we need
- 58:50to know that our
- 58:51SPEAKER_00: politicians are going to take for us.
- 58:53Yeah,
- 58:54and I want to make sure,
- 58:55too,
- 58:55we talked about this,
- 58:56Walter,
- 58:57on Wednesday.
- 58:58SPEAKER_02: It's not a purity test.
- 59:00SPEAKER_02: It's a qualification test.
- 59:03The right wing calls things purity tests because they're all
- 59:05about purity culture
- 59:07SPEAKER_02: and forcing people into this strict culture.
- 59:11SPEAKER_02: This is a qualification test.
- 59:13And if you are not qualified to lead the nation as a whole to
- 59:18include trans people,
- 59:20SPEAKER_02: women,
- 59:21SPEAKER_02: children...
- 59:22SPEAKER_02: anyone of a minority,
- 59:24SPEAKER_02: if you're not willing to include those people by default,
- 59:27SPEAKER_02: disabled folks,
- 59:29SPEAKER_02: then you're not a fucking good candidate.
- 59:32You're not a progressive because progressives believe that all
- 59:36people deserve
- 59:38SPEAKER_02: rights because they are inherently valuable themselves.
- 59:42SPEAKER_02: And if you like Evan, like you just said, that's an important point.
- 59:45SPEAKER_02: If he can't pay attention enough at home to know that his son is,
- 59:50or care that his child likes Ben Shapiro or Andrew Tate or
- 59:56Tucker Carlson or any of
- 59:59SPEAKER_02: those fucking monster podcasters,
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_02: then he's not going to pay attention to us also.
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_02: Gavin Newsom is a corporatist owned by the technocrats.
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_02: He is a technocrat in disguise.
- 1:00:15SPEAKER_02: If he could, he would be part of the America First Party.
- 1:00:19SPEAKER_02: That's what I believe of Gavin Newsom.
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_02: He is not our friend.
- 1:00:23SPEAKER_02: He never will be.
- 1:00:25SPEAKER_02: He doesn't have principles to stand on because he shifts with the wind.
- 1:00:30SPEAKER_02: And yes, politicians shift their ideas often based on what they're
- 1:00:35constituents say and want them to do but there's a difference
- 1:00:39between a politician
- 1:00:40like Ro Khanna who shifts his position because he is learning
- 1:00:45and growing and is
- 1:00:46actually shifting his positions compared to Gavin Newsom who
- 1:00:50just says shit to get
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_02: attention like
- 1:00:53SPEAKER_02: Gavin Newsom wasn't even effective earlier.
- 1:00:56It wasn't Gavin Newsom who was writing all those amazing posts
- 1:01:00and social media messages.
- 1:01:03SPEAKER_02: It was his assistant.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_02: It was his social media manager, and she was fucking awesome.
- 1:01:08SPEAKER_02: Not him.
- 1:01:09SPEAKER_02: She was the one writing all the stuff.
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_02: He was just taking credit for it.
- 1:01:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he had minorities doing it for him, and he took all the credit.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_02: He took all the credit.
- 1:01:21There was very little mention of who his assistant was,
- 1:01:26who his social media managers were.
- 1:01:28SPEAKER_02: They're the ones who deserve the credit, not him.
- 1:01:31SPEAKER_02: He just stole it.
- 1:01:32SPEAKER_02: He just took it.
- 1:01:33And that's part of the patriarchy is this whole thing of strong
- 1:01:37men with every good
- 1:01:39SPEAKER_02: man has a woman behind him actually doing all the hard work.
- 1:01:43Well,
- 1:01:43yeah,
- 1:01:44there's a difference between I have some incredible women
- 1:01:47helping me out.
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_02: but I give them fucking credit every time I talk about it.
- 1:01:52I can't do the work that I've done to build the Broadbanner
- 1:01:56ecosystem if I didn't
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_02: have the support of my friend Courtney.
- 1:02:00I couldn't have started the sick of this shop and got products
- 1:02:05out initially if I
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_02: didn't have the support of Beth.
- 1:02:08I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing on my disability work if I
- 1:02:12didn't have the
- 1:02:13SPEAKER_02: support of Beth,
- 1:02:14SPEAKER_02: Soso,
- 1:02:15SPEAKER_02: and Stephanie.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_02: Like,
- 1:02:17The intelligent masculinity works so much because I have
- 1:02:21support of women and I
- 1:02:22acknowledge them and I shout out the work that they're doing
- 1:02:26and all of the
- 1:02:26SPEAKER_02: incredible things and how I can't do this without anybody else.
- 1:02:30SPEAKER_02: I can't do this alone.
- 1:02:33Yet Gavin Newsom and folks like that claim they can make it
- 1:02:37sound like they can.
- 1:02:39SPEAKER_02: He's just another Trump, just lesser.
- 1:02:42SPEAKER_02: He's like he's a J.D.
- 1:02:44SPEAKER_02: Vance who can talk.
- 1:02:45SPEAKER_02: He's JD Vance who can talk.
- 1:02:47SPEAKER_02: He's slimy.
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_02: He changes.
- 1:02:49He's willing to say whatever the wind tells him to say just to
- 1:02:53get clicks and views.
- 1:02:54SPEAKER_02: He is not helpful for us.
- 1:02:57SPEAKER_02: He's thrown trans people under the bus.
- 1:02:59SPEAKER_02: He's thrown minorities under the bus.
- 1:03:01SPEAKER_02: And I refuse to do that.
- 1:03:03SPEAKER_03: And he's got time.
- 1:03:04SPEAKER_03: If he's got time to interview people like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon,
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_03: but he's never going to talk to us,
- 1:03:09SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 1:03:09it's just like it becomes frustrating when people that were
- 1:03:13like the purity test
- 1:03:14SPEAKER_03: that gets weaponized.
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_03: And it's like,
- 1:03:17SPEAKER_03: yeah,
- 1:03:17but you're talking about that false choice because they don't
- 1:03:20even give us an
- 1:03:20SPEAKER_03: opportunity to speak.
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_03: It's like we are cut off.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_03: They don't even get a chance to choose us.
- 1:03:27SPEAKER_03: We're not part of that equation.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_03: The Democrats have to stop with this electability bullshit.
- 1:03:33They have to stop saying things like America's not ready for a
- 1:03:36black woman.
- 1:03:37SPEAKER_03: All this is just racist, misogynistic
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_03: bullshit.
- 1:03:39And if the Democrats are going to be an alternative to MAGA,
- 1:03:42they have to walk the walk.
- 1:03:44SPEAKER_03: They have to be actively anti-racist.
- 1:03:46SPEAKER_03: They have to be willing to recognize and fight against white supremacy.
- 1:03:50SPEAKER_03: They have to stop denying that the Republicans engage in gerrymandering.
- 1:03:54SPEAKER_03: They engage in voting purges,
- 1:03:56that extremist right-wing groups have been allowed to buy up
- 1:04:00all the tallying
- 1:04:01SPEAKER_03: machines.
- 1:04:01SPEAKER_03: They cheat at elections.
- 1:04:04And for Democrats to be just like,
- 1:04:05well,
- 1:04:05we just trust election integrity.
- 1:04:07SPEAKER_03: It's like, you know, purity test.
- 1:04:09SPEAKER_03: It's like you guys, you're just completely missing the whole fight.
- 1:04:13So it's time to stop just allowing that false choice to dictate
- 1:04:18all of our political dialogue.
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_03: And that's why people come to independent because people have known it.
- 1:04:23SPEAKER_03: They've known something's wrong.
- 1:04:24SPEAKER_03: And I want people to be mindful too.
- 1:04:26SPEAKER_03: The celebrity journalists who have already come to Substack, some of
- 1:04:29SPEAKER_03: of them are very well-meaning,
- 1:04:31but they were raised up within this culture of disregarding the
- 1:04:34primaries and being
- 1:04:35SPEAKER_03: beholden to their oligarch masters.
- 1:04:38SPEAKER_03: So whether they know it or not, they're maintaining that false system.
- 1:04:42SPEAKER_03: And so this is why you have to embrace the new idea.
- 1:04:45It's up to the people to make it a Substack trend because it's a
- 1:04:48lot easier to win
- 1:04:49SPEAKER_03: these congressional seats than the establishment wants everybody to know.
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_03: It is a lot easier.
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_03: They want to pressure us.
- 1:04:57SPEAKER_03: This is why they come at us with this full-card press of messaging.
- 1:04:59SPEAKER_03: This is why they refuse to talk to us.
- 1:05:01SPEAKER_03: This is why they platform these extremists.
- 1:05:03It's because they know if a couple of us get organized and
- 1:05:06people are out there
- 1:05:07SPEAKER_03: canvassing the district,
- 1:05:08SPEAKER_03: knocking on doors,
- 1:05:09SPEAKER_03: that beats all the money in the world.
- 1:05:11SPEAKER_03: The face-to-face interactions surpass online interactions.
- 1:05:16SPEAKER_03: And the people that we're interviewing are going to win.
- 1:05:19SPEAKER_03: I mean, not all of them, but some of them will.
- 1:05:23SPEAKER_03: And we're going to change how the government looks.
- 1:05:24SPEAKER_03: I guarantee it.
- 1:05:25SPEAKER_03: I guarantee it's going to happen.
- 1:05:27It will change how the media looks too because with those
- 1:05:32progressive candidates
- 1:05:33SPEAKER_00: winning,
- 1:05:33SPEAKER_00: the ones that you're talking to right now,
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_00: the ones that are willing to talk to you once they get into Congress,
- 1:05:37SPEAKER_00: they're going to come back to you and tell other people about you.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_00: And then next thing you know,
- 1:05:42we're rooting out those sort of mainstream mediums that are
- 1:05:47like promoting those
- 1:05:49SPEAKER_00: same centrist bullshit candidates.
- 1:05:51SPEAKER_03: it's already happening too.
- 1:05:53SPEAKER_03: I'm already, I've seen a lot of people say blue mega.
- 1:05:56SPEAKER_03: I was the first person to say that it's coming up.
- 1:05:58SPEAKER_03: I'm seeing it on feeds on social media now.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_03: I mean,
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_03: that shit's getting out there and just all these things,
- 1:06:03SPEAKER_03: there's stuff I was saying three or four years ago that I,
- 1:06:06SPEAKER_03: you know,
- 1:06:06SPEAKER_03: I'd,
- 1:06:06SPEAKER_03: I'd get shunned.
- 1:06:07SPEAKER_03: I'd get no clicks on an article.
- 1:06:09SPEAKER_03: Now that shit blows up.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_03: People are recognizing it.
- 1:06:12SPEAKER_03: We've had this grand awakening.
- 1:06:14SPEAKER_03: I've gone through my own awakening too, but we keep pushing it.
- 1:06:17SPEAKER_03: And we know that people are ready for this.
- 1:06:19SPEAKER_03: They can tell.
- 1:06:21SPEAKER_03: can't fool all the people all the time.
- 1:06:24SPEAKER_03: They can look around.
- 1:06:25SPEAKER_03: They can tell shit's not working.
- 1:06:27They're sick of seeing kids in tears because they've been
- 1:06:30abducted by like
- 1:06:31SPEAKER_03: nameless,
- 1:06:31SPEAKER_03: faceless men.
- 1:06:32SPEAKER_03: We don't know who these men are.
- 1:06:34SPEAKER_03: Are these men rapists and pedophiles?
- 1:06:36SPEAKER_03: We don't know because we don't know who they are.
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_03: And people are sick of that.
- 1:06:40Even though the media is trying to cover it up,
- 1:06:41it's trying to suppress it.
- 1:06:43SPEAKER_03: It's trying to pressure us to be silent.
- 1:06:45SPEAKER_03: Oh, Walter, that sounds like a purity test.
- 1:06:48SPEAKER_03: Fuck yeah, it is.
- 1:06:49SPEAKER_03: I don't want pedophiles telling me what to do.
- 1:06:52SPEAKER_03: I don't want to be around my kids.
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_03: Again,
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_02: basic qualifications,
- 1:06:55SPEAKER_02: like basic level of qualifications is if you're running for office,
- 1:07:00submit a DNA test so that we know that you're not on a rape kit
- 1:07:03somewhere.
- 1:07:04SPEAKER_03: Jen Bud's idea.
- 1:07:05SPEAKER_03: That's Jen Bud's idea.
- 1:07:06SPEAKER_02: And I know Jen was here.
- 1:07:08If she's not still here with us,
- 1:07:09she was here with us earlier for a little bit.
- 1:07:11SPEAKER_02: If you aren't following Jen, go subscribe to the work she's doing.
- 1:07:15SPEAKER_02: She's doing fucking incredible work,
- 1:07:17and she's working now not just on exposing the truth about DHS
- 1:07:22and ICE and the
- 1:07:24white nationalist and the Christofascist and the rape culture
- 1:07:27that they exhibit and
- 1:07:28SPEAKER_02: the fact that they are the human traffickers themselves.
- 1:07:32Epstein would have never happened without the support of DHS,
- 1:07:36without the support of...
- 1:07:39SPEAKER_02: Customs and Border Patrol and ICE.
- 1:07:41SPEAKER_02: Without any of that, they would have never been able to do what they did.
- 1:07:44SPEAKER_02: They had to have support.
- 1:07:46SPEAKER_02: And that organization is rotten to its core.
- 1:07:49But what she's doing now is she's working on policy proposal
- 1:07:53and policy discussion.
- 1:07:54SPEAKER_02: And you know what?
- 1:07:56None of that would have ever happened if we had not all gotten
- 1:07:59on here and just
- 1:08:00SPEAKER_02: started fucking talking about it.
- 1:08:02SPEAKER_02: And Jen put that stuff out there and we listened.
- 1:08:06SPEAKER_02: That was the next step as we...
- 1:08:08heard and we listened and now we're listening with ears wide
- 1:08:12open and speak speak
- 1:08:14the truth when you hear it and bring more grassroots movement
- 1:08:16it's not one person
- 1:08:17they keep saying nobody's coming to save us we all have to say
- 1:08:20and i'm actually
- 1:08:21believing it now i'm like okay that's just a thing but now what
- 1:08:24you see the power
- 1:08:25you see the change and this reality of all these wonderful
- 1:08:28candidates that are
- 1:08:29running and who have this power and they're they've got the
- 1:08:31establishment scared
- 1:08:32SPEAKER_03: and like you know
- 1:08:34They're just going to freak out once we start taking some of
- 1:08:37these seats away.
- 1:08:38SPEAKER_03: Once they start getting primaried,
- 1:08:40you're going to start seeing the ones that are in there
- 1:08:42actually start to do their
- 1:08:43SPEAKER_03: job.
- 1:08:43SPEAKER_03: And even when they start to do that, primary them anyway.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_03: They've already shown it.
- 1:08:48SPEAKER_03: They're gone.
- 1:08:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_02: People listen and watch what people do.
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_02: And if they're only...
- 1:08:57shifting their narrative just to stay in office and not
- 1:08:59actually going to do
- 1:09:00anything they're not our friends if they've shown in the past
- 1:09:02that they're not our
- 1:09:03friends and that they aren't here to support and fight and
- 1:09:06advocate for and go on
- 1:09:08offense for democracy not just playing defense then they're not
- 1:09:11worth our time we
- 1:09:12SPEAKER_02: need candidates we need politicians who are willing to fight
- 1:09:16SPEAKER_02: for democracy, be on offense at all times for democracy.
- 1:09:22SPEAKER_02: Even if bills can't pass,
- 1:09:24SPEAKER_02: the act of proposing them,
- 1:09:27the act of getting that out there is important because it adds
- 1:09:32it to the narrative.
- 1:09:33The right wing is great at introducing stupid fucking bills
- 1:09:36that eventually shift
- 1:09:37SPEAKER_02: our Overton window towards conservative ideas.
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_02: The left
- 1:09:41specifically progressives we need to get really loud with our
- 1:09:44ideas and put them
- 1:09:45out there and propose all of them because the more we do it the
- 1:09:48more people listen
- 1:09:50universal healthcare is going to be adopted in the united
- 1:09:52states when we win
- 1:09:54because everybody is out here going we need this and we don't
- 1:09:58settle for anything
- 1:09:59less don't settle for anything less and don't they're gonna
- 1:10:02start get you well you
- 1:10:03already had so much isn't that a it goes all the way the
- 1:10:07momentum doesn't stop
- 1:10:08SPEAKER_03: This fight doesn't end because it can always be better for our kids.
- 1:10:12SPEAKER_03: We keep fighting.
- 1:10:13SPEAKER_03: We keep enduring.
- 1:10:14SPEAKER_03: And just the act of moving forward is a victory.
- 1:10:18SPEAKER_03: Celebrate those victories every step.
- 1:10:20SPEAKER_03: The act of coming here today and talking about this, that's a victory.
- 1:10:23victory we're gonna keep doing it every time we empower a young
- 1:10:26person to be
- 1:10:26excited about the primaries i was talking to ginger murray the
- 1:10:29other day about it
- 1:10:30and she says she was on reddit and she's like oh look the kids
- 1:10:33on reddit she said
- 1:10:35SPEAKER_03: they were laughing because it's the two people going for the primaries in
- 1:10:38wisconsin's i think this is the seventh district she said there
- 1:10:41was fred and ginger
- 1:10:42they're like haha it's fred and ginger so at first i'm like and
- 1:10:45then i'm like wait
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_03: a minute
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_03: I'm just happy the kids are engaged in the primary.
- 1:10:49SPEAKER_03: I'm just happy.
- 1:10:49SPEAKER_03: That's a win.
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_03: That's a win.
- 1:10:51SPEAKER_03: They know.
- 1:10:52SPEAKER_03: I never once knew who the two primary candidates were when I was 20.
- 1:10:56SPEAKER_03: So, yes.
- 1:10:57SPEAKER_03: And the establishment's freaking the fuck out.
- 1:10:59SPEAKER_03: And the more we pressure them,
- 1:11:01maybe at some point they'll come on here and try to win back
- 1:11:04the narrative.
- 1:11:04SPEAKER_03: And then we got them because we're not backing down.
- 1:11:07SPEAKER_03: We're not going to.
- 1:11:09SPEAKER_02: No, we don't back down on this.
- 1:11:11SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 1:11:11SPEAKER_02: We're a little past our hour mark,
- 1:11:14and I actually have a phone interview with Kira here soon to
- 1:11:18begin talking about.
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_02: Say hi to her.
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_02: Say hi to her.
- 1:11:22SPEAKER_02: And I will say hi to her for you, Walter.
- 1:11:24And so let's close out our show like we always do,
- 1:11:27which is support each other.
- 1:11:29SPEAKER_02: How do we find each other?
- 1:11:30SPEAKER_02: How do we find the work that we're doing?
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_02: Evan, go ahead, my friend.
- 1:11:34SPEAKER_02: You first today.
- 1:11:39SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
- 1:11:41SPEAKER_00: Guys, if you're not already, you can subscribe to new little.
- 1:11:47SPEAKER_00: Fetishments, interviews and everything.
- 1:11:49SPEAKER_00: I get a little nervous being on camera,
- 1:11:51but I do about one live a week and I have my show the midweek
- 1:11:55burn that you can
- 1:11:55SPEAKER_00: find on there too.
- 1:11:56SPEAKER_00: I've had guests like.
- 1:11:57SPEAKER_00: Tara Palmieri and Rick Wilson.
- 1:12:01And I've got some more stuff lined up coming up so you can find
- 1:12:04some big names over there.
- 1:12:05SPEAKER_00: You can get it for $5 a month or you can be a free subscriber.
- 1:12:09SPEAKER_00: I appreciate everything.
- 1:12:11SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
- 1:12:12SPEAKER_00: I love you guys.
- 1:12:15SPEAKER_00: You two are the best.
- 1:12:17SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it.
- 1:12:17SPEAKER_02: Love you too, brother.
- 1:12:19SPEAKER_02: Love all the support and love all the work you're doing.
- 1:12:21And make sure,
- 1:12:22yes,
- 1:12:23you absolutely do need to follow Evan and the work he's doing.
- 1:12:27SPEAKER_02: and support him on some of his other platforms too.
- 1:12:29Go over the threads and support him over there and follow his
- 1:12:34discussions there and
- 1:12:34SPEAKER_02: his conversations because the more we talk about this,
- 1:12:37SPEAKER_02: the better.
- 1:12:38SPEAKER_02: The more we follow each other, the bigger the community, the better.
- 1:12:43SPEAKER_02: Evan getting unhinged on threads.
- 1:12:45SPEAKER_02: That's what I like.
- 1:12:46SPEAKER_02: That's what I want.
- 1:12:47I want unhinged,
- 1:12:48Evan,
- 1:12:49to just start coming out and just balls to the wall.
- 1:12:52SPEAKER_02: Just go for it.
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_03: We got to do our life together.
- 1:12:55SPEAKER_03: We can feed off each other.
- 1:12:58SPEAKER_02: And so you two next, we've got Walter Reiner, level 36 magic user.
- 1:13:03SPEAKER_00: Don't worry.
- 1:13:04SPEAKER_00: I'm going to send you a message after this, and we'll get it set up.
- 1:13:07SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
- 1:13:07SPEAKER_03: I'm looking forward to it.
- 1:13:08SPEAKER_03: And thanks, everybody's here.
- 1:13:09SPEAKER_03: I don't have the chat in, so I didn't get to see.
- 1:13:11SPEAKER_03: I usually draw energy.
- 1:13:13I draw energy from the chat and hear what people say,
- 1:13:15but I didn't see that today.
- 1:13:17SPEAKER_03: But yeah, everybody, it's wonderful.
- 1:13:19SPEAKER_03: I always love being able to chat with you guys.
- 1:13:22It's been such a relief that we call it the touching grass
- 1:13:25moment,
- 1:13:25the validation.
- 1:13:26And my goodness,
- 1:13:27how much we've learned in these,
- 1:13:29I don't even know how long it's been.
- 1:13:31SPEAKER_03: It's been over a year, I guess, we've been doing this now.
- 1:13:34SPEAKER_03: But yes, we need your help.
- 1:13:35SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you can become a free subscriber, that helps.
- 1:13:38SPEAKER_03: Please restack those interviews with those candidates.
- 1:13:41SPEAKER_03: We have to do the grassroots thing, get people to see it.
- 1:13:44SPEAKER_03: And I'm just telling you, we can win this.
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_03: We just have to wake up from this lethargy,
- 1:13:49this lie that the authoritarians have put over us to make us
- 1:13:52think we don't have
- 1:13:52SPEAKER_03: power.
- 1:13:53SPEAKER_03: It's like getting out of any abusive relationship.
- 1:13:56SPEAKER_03: They make you think the trick of every abuser is to make the abused
- 1:14:00SPEAKER_03: not understand that they're abused.
- 1:14:01SPEAKER_03: You've been abused by the United States of America.
- 1:14:04SPEAKER_03: We have a right to ask more.
- 1:14:06SPEAKER_03: Reject this.
- 1:14:07SPEAKER_03: You should be grateful bullshit.
- 1:14:09SPEAKER_03: What do you have to be grateful for?
- 1:14:11SPEAKER_03: You can't buy food.
- 1:14:12SPEAKER_03: You can't buy gas.
- 1:14:13SPEAKER_03: You can't buy health care.
- 1:14:14SPEAKER_03: Your kids aren't educated.
- 1:14:15SPEAKER_03: And we have the power to change it.
- 1:14:17SPEAKER_03: We just have to fortify each other.
- 1:14:19SPEAKER_03: We have to stand by each other.
- 1:14:20SPEAKER_03: We have to help each other grow, get bigger and bigger and bigger.
- 1:14:23SPEAKER_03: You can all contribute in different ways.
- 1:14:25SPEAKER_03: Those of you who
- 1:14:27SPEAKER_03: Are up against the wall economically.
- 1:14:28SPEAKER_03: I totally get it.
- 1:14:29We're trying to work for you guys We're trying to get you
- 1:14:32better health care,
- 1:14:33but it and you can help by restacking sharing leaving comments
- 1:14:37Those of you who are
- 1:14:37doing better economically if you can become a paid Sponsor that
- 1:14:41really helps i've
- 1:14:42got a whole list on the bottom of every one of my articles You
- 1:14:45can put a coupon
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_03: code you can pay whatever you want.
- 1:14:48SPEAKER_03: I haven't had many this week I think I think subset got mad at me with my
- 1:14:52Talk with This Will Hold and Ellie Leonard where we were going
- 1:14:54into election
- 1:14:55integrity and I got poor old Nick banned from TikTok because
- 1:14:59the establishment
- 1:15:00doesn't want us to know that the goddamn election was stolen in
- 1:15:042024 because that
- 1:15:05SPEAKER_03: guy steals it.
- 1:15:06SPEAKER_03: Everything he does,
- 1:15:08SPEAKER_03: he cheats at golf,
- 1:15:08SPEAKER_03: he cheats on his wife,
- 1:15:09SPEAKER_03: he cheats on business,
- 1:15:11SPEAKER_03: he cheats when he talks.
- 1:15:12SPEAKER_03: He couldn't put a two-piece Lego set together without,
- 1:15:14SPEAKER_03: he couldn't do that anyway,
- 1:15:16SPEAKER_03: but he cheats to try to get it done.
- 1:15:18SPEAKER_03: So please support me if you can.
- 1:15:21SPEAKER_03: I really need it.
- 1:15:22SPEAKER_03: And I appreciate it.
- 1:15:23And we're going to just I'm going to work till I collapse or I
- 1:15:26start spitting blood
- 1:15:27or both because I'm not going to stop talking until we have
- 1:15:29universal health care.
- 1:15:31SPEAKER_03: And if it's my last breath and we get it on that day,
- 1:15:33SPEAKER_03: I will die a happy man because I will achieve something.
- 1:15:37You know,
- 1:15:37you've planted the seed for the tree that you'll never
- 1:15:39experience the shade of.
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_03: That's our commitment here.
- 1:15:42SPEAKER_03: And I guess I'm using up all the time.
- 1:15:44SPEAKER_03: So turn back over.
- 1:15:45SPEAKER_03: No, brother, you're good.
- 1:15:47SPEAKER_02: You're so good.
- 1:15:47SPEAKER_02: I appreciate all of it.
- 1:15:49SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it.
- 1:15:50And I appreciate the friendship that we've,
- 1:15:51we've been able to make over these past months.
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_02: Like it was needed.
- 1:15:55SPEAKER_02: I needed it and I'm better for it.
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_02: Go follow my friend, Walter.
- 1:16:00SPEAKER_02: He's fucking awesome.
- 1:16:01SPEAKER_02: And then finally come support me here at sick of the ship publications.
- 1:16:04SPEAKER_02: If you've got the funds,
- 1:16:06SPEAKER_02: like Walter said,
- 1:16:06SPEAKER_02: if you're able to please support with a paid subscription,
- 1:16:10SPEAKER_02: they really,
- 1:16:11SPEAKER_02: really help.
- 1:16:12SPEAKER_02: And they,
- 1:16:13SPEAKER_02: They feed my family.
- 1:16:15SPEAKER_02: They keep this running.
- 1:16:16SPEAKER_02: They feed me and my family and my kids.
- 1:16:18SPEAKER_02: And like I said,
- 1:16:19I'm on a fixed income and any support you can provide is really
- 1:16:23beneficial to
- 1:16:24SPEAKER_02: continuing to grow this and getting us out there more.
- 1:16:28SPEAKER_02: That said, if you can't be a free subscriber, that's totally wonderful.
- 1:16:33Like I love free subscribers too,
- 1:16:35because you guys are,
- 1:16:36you guys get the message out so much.
- 1:16:38SPEAKER_02: And
- 1:16:39SPEAKER_02: You love coming back.
- 1:16:40SPEAKER_02: There's so many of you in this audience who always come back every week,
- 1:16:43SPEAKER_02: who come back and support us,
- 1:16:44SPEAKER_02: who smash the heart for us each time,
- 1:16:46SPEAKER_02: who subscribe,
- 1:16:48SPEAKER_02: who boosts the work.
- 1:16:50SPEAKER_02: That's what we're asking for is the likes, the shares, the resex.
- 1:16:53SPEAKER_02: I know it's annoying sometimes and it's algorithmic and it's not.
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_02: You don't always feel like you're doing something, but you are.
- 1:17:01SPEAKER_02: You're getting that message out there.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_02: Another thing you can do other than just restacking these,
- 1:17:06SPEAKER_02: share them with your friends and family.
- 1:17:09SPEAKER_02: Share them with your community.
- 1:17:11SPEAKER_02: Share them on Facebook.
- 1:17:13SPEAKER_02: Share them in your chat groups.
- 1:17:14SPEAKER_02: Share them all over the place.
- 1:17:16Go and share these with folks because I've heard back from
- 1:17:19people who said,
- 1:17:21SPEAKER_02: oh,
- 1:17:21SPEAKER_02: we've heard Nick.
- 1:17:22We've listened to him because I sent it over to him and this
- 1:17:24was a really cool thing.
- 1:17:26SPEAKER_02: I've heard that.
- 1:17:26SPEAKER_02: That's really fucking cool.
- 1:17:27SPEAKER_02: I never thought I would hear that in my life.
- 1:17:29SPEAKER_02: I never thought I would hear that in my life.
- 1:17:32SPEAKER_02: And that's because of y'all.
- 1:17:34SPEAKER_02: The only way we do that is through you guys.
- 1:17:36SPEAKER_02: So...
- 1:17:37all of the support is incredibly needed and incredibly helpful
- 1:17:40like i said paid
- 1:17:41subscribers really really help um however free subscribers are
- 1:17:45great too either way
- 1:17:46i'm going to keep doing this work until i run out of money or
- 1:17:50run out of the
- 1:17:50ability to do it and then i'm going to probably keep doing it
- 1:17:53anyway um so come
- 1:17:55join me here like i said we're going to be doing some
- 1:17:58incredible stuff on sick of
- 1:17:59SPEAKER_02: the ship publications
- 1:18:00SPEAKER_02: Walter Ryan does incredible stuff.
- 1:18:02SPEAKER_02: Evan Fields does incredible stuff.
- 1:18:04SPEAKER_02: Dr. Eric Lulove does incredible stuff.
- 1:18:06SPEAKER_02: We're all here trying to support and help.
- 1:18:08SPEAKER_02: And our one goal is save democracy,
- 1:18:11SPEAKER_02: is progress democracy,
- 1:18:12SPEAKER_02: not even just save it,
- 1:18:13SPEAKER_02: but progress it to a more perfect union.
- 1:18:16SPEAKER_02: And so come join us.
- 1:18:17SPEAKER_02: Come help us do that because we're sick of this shit.
- 1:18:21SPEAKER_02: We're done being sick of this shit.
- 1:18:23SPEAKER_02: We're asking people just to suck less and do more.
- 1:18:27SPEAKER_02: Suck less, do a little bit more.
- 1:18:30SPEAKER_02: And that's it.
- 1:18:31SPEAKER_02: Let's go have a great day, y'all.
- 1:18:32SPEAKER_02: This is the Diogenes Club.
- 1:18:33We'll be back next week,
- 1:18:35as always,
- 1:18:35Thursday,
- 1:18:361230 Eastern Time for another Diogenes Club.
- 1:18:39SPEAKER_02: I'm excited to see y'all again next week.
- 1:18:41SPEAKER_02: I'm excited to hang out with Evan and Walter again.
- 1:18:44SPEAKER_02: Have a great week, y'all.
- 1:18:45SPEAKER_02: We'll talk to you again soon.
- 1:18:46SPEAKER_02: Thanks, everyone.
- 1:18:47SPEAKER_03: Bye.