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Drive Thru News #59 - All roads lead to Le Mans Classic! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  There we go.
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  Welcome to Drive through episode number 59.
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  This is our monthly recap.
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  Put together a menu of automotive motorsport and
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  entertaining car adjacent news.
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  Now, let's pull up to the window number one for some automotive news.
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  You notice, Tanya, he puts the gun there just like Brad does.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It's something about the human mind.
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  We just add that the, the window number one.
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  Well, William, we are picking up where we left off.
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  Welcome back to the studio.
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  Thanks for joining us tonight.
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  Lots to talk about, but it starts with these really stupid hats.
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  You don't look good in that hat.
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  You don't like my hat Not worn.
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  That way it looks worse when I put it all the way on my head.
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  Wait, wait.
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  I'll show you what it looks like.
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  It is better that way.
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  It's better.
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  No, it's totally worse.
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  This, no, it's better.
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  It is better.
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  That way.
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  I can't get my headphones on.
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  Oh, there you go.
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  What the hell did you do to that thing?
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  You sit on it.
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  It was my suitcase that took care of the hat.
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  It does look like the lone ranger thing here.
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  It's all sorts of bent up and whatnot.
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  Oh my God.
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  My band already broke.
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  I mean, it broke when I set it down on my stand over here.
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  Just fell right off.
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  I'm like, yeah, I'm not even bothering.
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  Doesn't fit my head anyway, so this is perfect.
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  I have no idea how they could get away.
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  I, I should have stood there for about 10 minutes to see what sucker paid.
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  $60 for one of those, right?
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  I wouldn't pay 'em six bucks for this hat.
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  No, I saw that price.
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  Like that was sad.
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  So the audience is looking at this behind the scenes on Patreon going, what
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  the hell is up with this stupid hat?
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  So this is the infamous.
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  Docents straw hat that you're supposed to wear at events like Pebble and other
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  concourses and, and so we have not the Professor John Summers to thank for the
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  acquisition of these wonderful hats.
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  As we were talking about on our last drive through, we were getting ready to
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  embark upon this massive guy's vacation.
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  You know, all this car stuff.
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  And so it starts.
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  In San Francisco at the Hillsborough Concourse basically for 30 days.
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  A little break for a day here or two here then.
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  But yeah, getting out there, I'd never been to San Francisco too.
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  That was a first for me.
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  I've always been Southern California, everything like that.
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  So that was awesome about that.
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  But you know, it was well worked it because friend of mine hooked
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  us up with a little shop visit.
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  So we go to the old Riley, what is it?
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  Restoration shop or, which was phenomenal.
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  Can't remember.
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  What was the name of that shop we went to?
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  Wasn't it Bob Riley's place?
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  But then Brian, uh, what's Brian's last name?
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  More, whatever.
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  But he took it over.
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  But he moved it from where it was, it was, and this is a cool thing 'cause
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  if you drive by, you think it's an abandoned building, a hundred percent.
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  You, you not know what's in, like there's an old refrigerator
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  sitting outside the building.
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  This an old chicken farm or something.
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  The hatchery, I don't know, something like that.
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  But you go inside, it's one of those.
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  Old cool ass buildings, all brick.
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  It's got the big wood hand, Hoon, dormer, drafters.
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  Awesome.
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  And then, I mean, just BRM, dhe, what you saw in there was just incredible and
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  respecting owners' privacy and whatnot.
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  You know, we really didn't, we took some pictures, but we didn't share
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  because we just, you know, hey, you didn't want, it was like, which is
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  fine, which is cool, but I mean.
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  It was unbelievable the cars that were in there.
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  And it was cool to see because you got stuff that was just starting.
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  You had stuff that was basically just getting touched up or you
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  know, a little fine tuned for some concourse and stuff like that.
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  Well, millions of dollars worth of cars.
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  And you'd drive by it going, Jed Clampett lives there.
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  And you'd never pay attention to it ever again.
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  You know?
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  No, you wouldn't at all.
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  And it's not like it's got any shape or anything to it.
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  Think Okay, there's a bunch of carless or, I mean, just, it's crazy.
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  'cause I mean, all the metal working equipment seeing, I mean it just,
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  it's got all the stuff and they need to do the proper restoration
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  of cars of that magnitude.
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  Basically, though it's only three of 'em in essence doing it.
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  And actually only two of 'em really are actually doing any of the work.
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  Yeah.
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  Brian Kind is almost, I would say retired, but basically retired.
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  Just runs the shop.
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  He's got a married couple, which one of the individuals, that'd be
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  an interesting conversation to have.
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  That's an episode unto itself.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, because like, wait, what?
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  Wait.
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  Oh, okay.
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  But her metalworking is just unbelievable.
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  Especially that wanderer and redoing all that pieces that are missing
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  from that car and all that stuff that was in the back was super cool.
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  Yeah.
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  But you wanna talk about a small world, Tanya.
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  We walk into this place and Brian walks out, older gentleman, these big glasses,
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  and he's wearing a T-shirt and it's a blue t-shirt and all it says is Mirage.
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  I just have this smile on my face, do the, you know, the whole
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  Kojack point my finger like a gun.
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  And I'm like, man, you're wearing the right T-shirt.
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  He said, well, what do you mean?
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  And I said, I just interviewed Harley k Clarkson like a week ago.
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  And he goes, you won't believe it.
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  I used to work for Harley.
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  And so suddenly this whole conversation, he worked at Mirage, all these cars
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  and how Harley got started and this and that, and so we got a really interesting
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  backstory, which led us into the legend of Lamborghini and Bob Wallace.
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  And brought us back to camaraderie and the Corvette and it was like, who is this guy?
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  What have we stumbled into?
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  We're in the nexus now.
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  Right.
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  You know, I, I, all those conversations were great because one, Eric was
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  conversing with all these great stories and people he talked to and then he went
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  into his stories and it just kind of kept going because when he would bring
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  something up, it basically just got, oh yeah, I interviewed or I talk, you
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  know, so it all just kind of, all of a sudden little web we weave, so to speak.
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  And he really opened up.
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  'cause he's the kind of guy that throughout his years, you can
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  tell he's been like all these awesome places involved stuff.
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  But you know, he's the guy just kind of quiet, kept to himself, just
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  did his work and stuff like that.
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  But he was involved in all this stuff.
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  So he, he has all the connections.
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  So we're getting ready to leave.
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  We're outside.
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  I know he had mentioned before over at Sonoma at the racetrack, they had another
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  storage facility and the gentleman with Mark Addison, God bless him 'cause he's
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  the one that got this all set up for us.
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  Brian goes, well, hey, here, you guys wanna go?
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  Here's the key.
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  I mean, I'm like, I just look just like WTFI don't know you from Adam.
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  I met you an hour ago, right?
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Well here's the key, you know, go.
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  Yeah, just go over there and this unit, da da da.
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  'cause that was a whole nother thing, trying to find the unit
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  once we got there and we look like Keystone cops running around.
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  Yeah.
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  Trying to find the shop.
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  It was so bad.
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  They had on track stuff going on too.
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  So getting in, you had to do all this stuff.
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  Well, mark just pulls right past the gate.
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  These guys are, him and John, they're in the rental car we had and they
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  get stopped for like 20 minutes, get debriefed like by the Gestapo
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  or something, trying to get in.
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  We just blew right through 'em and just went, and I'm like, all right.
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  And trying to find the unit.
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  'cause the way it was explained to us and oh, it's this one.
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  It's, I mean, just made no sense.
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  But we're like, it's gotta be this one.
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  Try the key.
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  Try the key.
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  It opens the door.
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  You open the door and what do you find?
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  Another slice of heaven.
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  Oh my God.
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  And we got free roam.
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  I mean, just free run of it.
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  It was me.
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  Eric, John and Mark and whatever was living in that wall.
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  'cause there was something and was in that wall.
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  Yeah, there was something else overseeing, I think keeping an eye on everything.
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  'cause I mean it would make itself known every now and then you kinda just
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  like, all right it it is what it is.
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  Oh god.
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  Oh, the cars let, let me list off some of the cars.
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  Yes.
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  As soon as you walked in, there's two shadow formula one cars.
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  When was the last time you saw a shadow in picture, let alone in person.
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  So you got those two right up front and then you walk in and there was
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  that Ferrari 1 66 under the covers.
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  Yeah.
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  Then there was that Aston Martin bandage.
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  That Chevron, which looks like a McLaren P four, whatever it is.
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  Behind that was not just any McLaren formula one car, James Hunt's, McLaren
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  Formula one car up on the rack.
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  And then there was a bunch of other stuff.
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  And the car that got me when we got to the back corner of the shop, you know
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  we had been talking to Brian about the camaraderie, Corvette and Bob Wallace and
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  all this stuff, and sitting there in its original livery, fully restored, whatever
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  is the camaraderie, bird Cage, Maserati, that was at LAMA with the Corvette.
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  And I'm like.
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  You gotta be kidding me.
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  Like what?
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  Just the sheer chance of being in the presence of, you know, all
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  these cars and all this stuff.
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  Absolutely incredible.
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  I mean, scene one, if we walked into that shop and one of those would've been in
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  there, it would've been God is great.
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  Yeah.
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  But just the magnitude of everything that was in there was just.
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  Insane.
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  I still argue I would've taken that alpine home with me.
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  That was like perfect.
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  Yeah, that was a great little car.
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  And that thing was ready to go.
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  That thing was sweet.
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  You know, not only just the cars though, 'cause then you start looking
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  at all the stuff that's kind of laying around and stacked up or whatever.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Because it's just shop parts everywhere.
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  Yeah.
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  It's not like it's some place you're going into where they're on
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  display and it's like, no, these are cars are running on the track.
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  And so they got just all this stuff stacked up everywhere and
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  posters on the wall that are.
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  Probably not very appropriate.
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  You know, in this day and age in the eighties they were okay.
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  In the eighties they were great, but not this day and age.
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  Like, no, I might not wanna this.
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  But I mean, just seeing the old trinkets and stuff was unbelievable too.
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  'cause it's just like stuff you collect over the years, God, this
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  is from this and you know, and you, it's not like it's repo.
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  I miss the legit stuff.
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  It's original.
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  Yeah.
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  And plus, you know, the cars on the track in the background, so you got
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  this whole little vibe going on.
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  Yeah, that was crazy.
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  We've been blessed how we've started our trips from that one to the next one, to
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  the next one, all just kind of steamroll.
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  It's like, man, the a precedent was set right out of the gate.
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  You're like, wow.
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  And we do have to apologize to Sonoma Raceway.
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  You will sign the waiver the next time you come through there.
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  Yes, yes.
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  My apologies.
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  My bad.
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  Didn't know.
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  And I hope we weren't supposed to do anything when we left either.
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  'cause he just went right through on the way out too.
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  Mark's like, what, what?
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  And then we spent some time with John Summers, the motoring historian,
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  and we got to see his motorcycle collection, which is extensive.
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  Yeah.
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  He's got a problem.
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  And he keeps acquiring more.
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  And then it was like, how many cars does he have?
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  Like, I can't believe he fits that Pontiac down there.
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  I don't either.
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  With everything.
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  It's like, holy smokes.
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  Yeah.
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  I, I have no idea.
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  I mean, I'm amazed he doesn't have a shed out in his backyard with more stuff in it.
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  I, that's probably coming, but, well, he's got his other cars in
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  the warehouse, so of course it's not like he's buying these beat up junk.
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  He's buying bikes, getting a great deal on him that either needing just maybe
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  a little TLC or, you know, they're a little scratched here or there.
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  But they all run.
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  He rides 'em all.
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  And you know, he has his little post-it note on it.
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  Last time it was starting, I mean everything.
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  But I mean, I'm a big bike nuts.
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  What he had in there was just, I mean, GS six R at the Ninja
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  ZX six is all this stuff.
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  Crazy, crazy stuff.
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  Just all crammed in there.
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  And I, I will say this, when you see John's videos of where he is sitting,
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  it gives it a whole new context of his little hovel that he has where
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  he is sitting a hundred percent.
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  Changes your perspective completely.
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  You, you're like, please turn the camera around so I can see all the bikes.
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  There with you in that he just sit the other way and he says on his
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  show all the time, he's like, oh, I got all these bikes I gotta fix, you
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  know, blah, blah, blah in the garage.
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  And I'm like, they're three feet from you, dude.
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  They're like right behind you.
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  It's crazy.
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  Yeah.
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  It's like just goes like this and touching 'em all.
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  Yeah.
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  He needs to spin it around because then not to mention all the stuff he's
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  got on the one wall, which the ta, I mean he just needs to do an episode.
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  Just touring that thing, just like everything else we've talked about.
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  Like Don talks about on garage tile, you drive past some of these houses,
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  you have no idea what's inside them, what people have been hoarding or
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  storing or collecting or otherwise.
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  And like his neighbor, which leads us into the concord.
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  Yeah.
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  As we were point, what was it, 7:00 AM seven 30?
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  Yeah.
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  On the day we were going out to see this garage and stuff like that, we
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  catched a gentleman's garage was open and he had his two, three oh eights
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  sitting there and we're like, oh.
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  So we stopped as we get outta the car, walk towards the garage, the
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  garage cut and I'm like, oh, maybe he thought we were gonna go rob
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  him, but it turns out awesome guy.
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  It's John's dear friend.
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  John's actually driven his cars and stuff like that.
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  We met him following day at the Concor and had lengthy chats.
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  Him, great guy.
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  Lots of photos and stuff like that.
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  It's interesting to the point, especially in San Francisco, 'cause I mean, yeah, you
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  got basically a single car garage door.
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  I mean if you got a double wide garage, you're living large.
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  I mean, 'cause they're deep.
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  They're all like two car lengths deep at a minimum.
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  Two cars as in like a 57 Thunderbird, two cars deep.
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  They're huge.
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  Like you put three modern cars in those garages easily.
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  Exactly.
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  I mean, he's got his four door Catalina, his Mustang 2002 Mustang
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  bullet, one of the first series of bullets, and then 20 motorcycles.
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  If not more.
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  They're deep.
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  I mean, you're fitting a lot of stuff in there and it's just basically
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  garage space unless you redid it.
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  But yeah, they're huge.
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  It's very surprising, you know?
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  And then obviously on the hills and stuff like that.
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  So yes, it started out that first day set precedent and was like, fantastic.
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  Now we gotta talk about concor and the silly hats.
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  Exactly the weather, you know, it was wasn't too bad.
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  But that's a concern.
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  'cause not only you gotta wear the hat, you gotta wear the blue blazer.
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  Oh my god.
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  White collared shirt and khaki pants.
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  Poor Eric had to go to, I don't Did you go to Kohl's?
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  I bought everything.
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  I bought everything.
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  I had none of it.
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  But didn't you know the wardrobe before?
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  You didn't bring the proper stuff or you did and it was wrong?
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  No, no, no.
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  It was correct and I had to buy it ahead of time so we knew what the
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  dress code was gonna be, but it's worse when you put it all on my stuff.
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  Still had the tags on it.
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  Like if we don't go through with this, I could return it.
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  That's where I was even the morning of.
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  I was like, oh shit, I still got a tag on my, you know, my jacket kind of thing.
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  Those of you who listen or watch the channels and stuff like that?
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  No, I have an issue and a addiction to Diet Mountain Deuce.
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  Oh my god, that was so funny.
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  7:00 AM I found a Walmart.
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  No, I'm sorry, target.
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  That was about 10 minutes from the hotel I went.
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  I bought a cooler so that way I could take my own beverages
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  and I bought Diet Mountain.
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  Did it?
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  'cause you know I have a very serious problem.
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  It got worse when we got to France, but we'll get to that point.
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  Yeah, that was hor.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah, we'll get to that.
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  I was all right for two days 'cause I kind of strung some things out.
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  These Jones in after that.
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  Yeah.
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  So anyway, we get to the Concord.
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  I didn't know what to expect.
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  I don't think you knew what to expect.
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  No, I have no idea.
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  The only thing we had gotten, and it was literally the night before,
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  was this 200 car spreadsheet that we needed to somehow digest, memorize,
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  understand what was on the field, and then link these random abbreviations
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  to the groups and try to figure out where the cars were on the field.
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  And then I get there and I'm like, well the field's not that big because
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  he made it sound like it's gonna take an hour and a half to get to one
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  end of the field and then you're not gonna be able to cover the other half.
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  And like all this, I was like, what?
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  The way it was presented, it was very daunting and it was like, oh crap.
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  Because then you get nervous.
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  'cause the position you're being put into.
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  Yeah.
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  And how people are perceiving you.
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  You don't wanna look like an idiot.
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  But also to John.
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  And you know, the concourse individuals themselves have put on the event
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  because they put the trust in John to John, find the people and da da da.
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  So we come up.
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  So it's like, you know, it's a big responsibility.
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  But then to your point, we get there and it's okay.
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  This is very manageable, you know?
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  Which is great.
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  'cause that was the one thing about it.
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  It wasn't like they had 500 cars or something like that, you know?
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  Yeah.
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  You could technically stopping to look at some and this and that.
• 14:22
  Probably 45 minutes, an hour if you're really kind of stopping some
• 14:25
  of the cars and scrutinize them.
• 14:26
  It wasn't that overwhelming once we kind of got the lay of the land.
• 14:29
  Well, your slice of the cake was a lot easier than mine too, because Yes, it
• 14:33
  was all the Ferraris were together.
• 14:36
  Yeah.
• 14:36
  That made it, I was, yeah, that did make it very, very simple.
• 14:39
  They were all just in this one spot.
• 14:40
  Perfect.
• 14:41
  And basically almost in chronological order too, which was great.
• 14:45
  I was like, which manic?
• 14:46
  A DD person put all the German cars where they did, they were all over the place.
• 14:50
  I was like, it felt like a bee buzzing around trying to like weave a story.
• 14:54
  And so you and I strategized quite a bit on how we wanted
• 14:57
  approach the field, but in the end.
• 14:59
  What was it?
• 14:59
  We had a couple financial groups, US Bank, there were a bunch of different
• 15:03
  groups that had gone out and these tours and all this kinda stuff.
• 15:06
  So one of the docents took the US Bank guys and kind of went
• 15:09
  off with them by themselves.
• 15:11
  And then we were with John.
• 15:12
  I never saw this side of John before.
• 15:14
  I mean, he doesn't like it when we call him the professor, but I called
• 15:17
  him the professor in an affectionate way, like Gilligan's Island.
• 15:20
  Right.
• 15:21
  As a side note, in regards to.
• 15:24
  Mr. Professor, we kinda were told that he, we wished that we wouldn't
• 15:28
  call him that or put that out there anymore due to some circumstances.
• 15:32
  So, yeah.
• 15:32
  Yeah.
• 15:33
  We only can do that in private, I guess, from now on.
• 15:36
  So we're gonna continue to say it throughout this episode, right?
• 15:38
  Yeah.
• 15:38
  We're gonna continue to say it.
• 15:39
  So to drive it home because you a request was made, but we're like, sure.
• 15:44
  That's like the worst thing to do is to ask that.
• 15:47
  'cause then you're just gonna double down.
• 15:48
  Right?
• 15:48
  Right.
• 15:50
  So he starts lecturing and he starts with like these cheaty chitty bang, bang, open
• 15:55
  top cars from like the 1920s and stuff.
• 15:57
  And I'm like, okay, where is this going?
• 15:58
  And then eventually he's like, all right, Eric, William, you take over.
• 16:02
  And we're like, uh, excuse me.
• 16:04
  Yeah.
• 16:05
  Again then.
• 16:05
  And he wandered off too.
• 16:07
  Yeah.
• 16:07
  Stayed there and kinda like oversaw him.
• 16:09
  Just be sure you know.
• 16:10
  Nope, I gotta go like, all right.
• 16:12
  Thank God we were together and we tag teamed it.
• 16:15
  Yeah, I think that was very helpful.
• 16:17
  Instead of just getting thrown into the very deep end, that helped a lot
• 16:19
  too, because then he played off each other and as you're talking, someone
• 16:23
  can fill in a gap or what have you.
• 16:24
  So that, that worked out very well.
• 16:26
  'cause the other fact was the group we were taking around showing cars, you know,
• 16:29
  they're not car, I mean they like cars.
• 16:31
  A couple guys had a Porsche snap, but it's not like they're hardcore, right?
• 16:34
  Like us.
• 16:35
  But it was interesting, you know, you pick up on the cues of things that are gonna
• 16:39
  interest them 'cause you wanna keep 'em, uh, attention, captivate 'em and get 'em.
• 16:42
  So it's kinda like you had to see what perked people up and stuff like that.
• 16:45
  And being money and stuff like that.
• 16:47
  I started touching on about avoiding taxes and Montana license
• 16:50
  plates and all this kind of stuff.
• 16:51
  And you went into this whole investment thing and I was
• 16:53
  like, that gives me a break.
• 16:55
  I can collect my thought.
• 16:57
  They seem to kind of grasp bond of that.
• 16:59
  I'm like, I thought you guys'd be something they'd be interested in.
• 17:01
  Well, and they were, they were into the super fun facts.
• 17:03
  Right.
• 17:03
  And I think, yeah, we started off well talking about, you know,
• 17:06
  Porsche and 20% of the market for Porsche comes from California.
• 17:09
  Everybody's like, Ooh, ah, that's really cool.
• 17:11
  And then, you know, we led into other things, you know, and there
• 17:13
  was a lot we talked, 'cause I think we had them for 45 minutes maybe
• 17:16
  to an hour, just to ourselves.
• 17:18
  It was nice to know that by the end, granted they're there.
• 17:21
  It's part of like a corporate outing for this investment group.
• 17:24
  And you know, somebody paid for their lunch and all the thing, you
• 17:27
  know, to kind of wine and dine them.
• 17:28
  But we didn't lose anybody.
• 17:30
  No.
• 17:30
  When we got to the end.
• 17:31
  And I think that's a indication that we did an okay job.
• 17:34
  No, I agree.
• 17:35
  No one wandered off the herd, didn't thin out or anything like that.
• 17:38
  And I think that's a, hey that we're, I guess we're doing it right I guess, you
• 17:42
  know, so I like the whole docent thing.
• 17:44
  I think it's cool.
• 17:45
  Would I do it again?
• 17:46
  Yes.
• 17:46
  Obviously this is the thing that leads to the next thing.
• 17:49
  So we'll see when we get the call to go do pebble and all that.
• 17:52
  This was all part of building up to that.
• 17:54
  So your takeaway from being a concourse docent and, and I know your
• 17:58
  feelings on being a concourse judge 'cause you did an entire episode
• 18:01
  about that leading up to this event.
• 18:04
  I mean, no, I'd love to be a docent again.
• 18:05
  I mean, 'cause this weight's not getting put on you in regards to objectifying
• 18:08
  something and putting points to it.
• 18:10
  I would do it again, a heartbeat.
• 18:11
  And I thought that the idea presented was like, hey.
• 18:15
  Go to Pebble this year and shadow some people and stuff like that.
• 18:18
  I thought that was a great way to go about doing it.
• 18:20
  Then next year in 2026, then hey, you step in.
• 18:23
  Yeah.
• 18:24
  Instead of just like, okay, 2026, you step in.
• 18:26
  Okay, here you go.
• 18:27
  You've done a few more events or something like that.
• 18:29
  And I don't know if, hey, maybe we gotta do a few more.
• 18:31
  I don't know.
• 18:31
  But if we get asked, I mean, I'd do it in a second to be another docent
• 18:35
  again, because I thought that was great.
• 18:36
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:37
  You know, you get in for free, which is great, but hey, you know, you meet
• 18:39
  some nice people and stuff like that, you know, and it was a lot of fun.
• 18:42
  Definitely.
• 18:43
  It was a lot of fun.
• 18:44
  So big thank you to John for inviting us.
• 18:46
  Yes.
• 18:46
  And making us part of that.
• 18:47
  So yeah, for sure.
• 18:48
  Yeah.
• 18:48
  A huge thank Before we transition away from California and talk about Europe.
• 18:52
  Gotta talk about our rental car for just a second.
• 18:54
  So fast.
• 18:55
  So fast.
• 18:56
  We were chatting about this thing on Discord the other day and you know, new
• 19:01
  Volkswagens and all this kinda stuff.
• 19:02
  So you, you ended up with a 2025 Jetta with a 1.5 turbo slush box automatic.
• 19:07
  Oh.
• 19:07
  If you remember on the, I think it was the trip back or two Sonoma John
• 19:12
  started without sort of starting.
• 19:14
  He got under my.
• 19:15
  Skin because he's talking about how nice it is, and I'm like, you obviously have
• 19:19
  not owned Volkswagens in your lifetime because this is, oh, I got on my soapbox
• 19:24
  and I was going off about, oh, how much I disliked it, and then I got a chance
• 19:28
  to drive it, disliked it even more.
• 19:30
  And you sat there quietly, sort of just smiling and not saying anything.
• 19:33
  So I wanted to get your final opinion on our Jetta rental car
• 19:36
  because we're gonna talk about rental cars more as we go along.
• 19:39
  You think to yourself, God, this is probably the worst rental
• 19:42
  car there is on the planet.
• 19:43
  But then you get to Europe into the 2008,
• 19:49
  it gets beat.
• 19:50
  You're like, holy crap.
• 19:52
  It is possible to find something that's even a bigger pile of shit.
• 19:57
  To say that that Jetta was gutless is a compliment to that car.
• 20:01
  Oh my god.
• 20:01
  It was bad.
• 20:02
  Yeah.
• 20:02
  If you're a 16-year-old girl getting her first car, it's perfect.
• 20:06
  The Jetta's always had that reputation, so it's fantastic for that.
• 20:10
  No offense, Tanya.
• 20:12
  I don't think that thing had more than 90 horsepower.
• 20:14
  I don't know.
• 20:14
  It was, it was awful.
• 20:15
  And everything was plastic inside.
• 20:17
  I mean, you can just tell It's a mess.
• 20:19
  I mean, it's built to be a rental car.
• 20:20
  Yeah.
• 20:20
  Now basically that's all it is.
• 20:21
  Built and sell to all the rental car issues.
• 20:23
  That's all that thing is for Yeah, you might have one here, two
• 20:26
  or there on a lot or something.
• 20:27
  But I mean, I've said it before.
• 20:29
  I'll say it again.
• 20:30
  No one aspires to own a rental car.
• 20:33
  Hands down, right?
• 20:34
  No.
• 20:35
  So again, as we wrap out the California part of the trip, I
• 20:39
  wanna give another shout out to John Summers, the motoring historian.
• 20:42
  He's got an episode that's gonna air right behind this one, and he too talks about
• 20:46
  his rental car experience in Cape Cod.
• 20:49
  And I gotta tell you, editing it, I was laughing my ass off
• 20:53
  like it was that Seinfeld moment.
• 20:55
  It's gold, Jerry.
• 20:57
  It's gold.
• 21:00
  It's really good.
• 21:01
  You gotta listen to it and it really goes with the whole
• 21:04
  theme of the rental car thing.
• 21:05
  So check out the motoring historian after this airs on Friday,
• 21:18
  France.
• 21:19
  Do we start with your flight like you had some bad flights?
• 21:22
  Oh my God.
• 21:23
  Yeah.
• 21:23
  I mean, I was getting screwed by United Left, right and Center.
• 21:26
  Everything's set.
• 21:27
  Everything's good.
• 21:29
  Then get to the airport.
• 21:30
  Now mind you, I had bought extra leg room, all that stuff and everything
• 21:34
  because like I'm not gonna spend extra money, but I kept following the prices.
• 21:37
  I checked every couple days to see what it is, and all of a sudden, bam, it
• 21:41
  was $950 to upgrade the first class.
• 21:44
  But I was like, done.
• 21:45
  So upgrade the first class.
• 21:47
  I'm like, great.
• 21:47
  Hey, eight hours I can sleep.
• 21:49
  Then that way when I get there, hey, we're resting you.
• 21:51
  Get to the airport flight's.
• 21:53
  Delayed weather in Dulles.
• 21:55
  'cause that's where I was supposed to fly in from Cleveland to Dulles.
• 21:56
  Dulles over, it's delayed like six hours.
• 21:59
  So it's like, well I ain't making that connection.
• 22:01
  That ain't happening.
• 22:02
  I had like a two and a half hour later or so.
• 22:03
  It was like, okay, making it the flight to Paris.
• 22:06
  Paris.
• 22:07
  No, this is not the flight to Paris.
• 22:09
  Okay, the flight to Paris.
• 22:10
  You need to go to terminal two.
• 22:13
  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Flight 3 0 9.
• 22:15
  Service to Paris.
• 22:16
  Paris.
• 22:17
  So, you know, my phone starts blowing up, trying to get things switched, whatnot.
• 22:20
  And I'm like going, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
• 22:21
  And their first choice and response was, well, we can get you out tomorrow.
• 22:25
  Ah, I can offer upgrade.
• 22:27
  I upgrade you to the flight tomorrow.
• 22:30
  I'm like, no.
• 22:31
  What would you do if you go into Europe and all you lose a whole
• 22:35
  day and everything like that.
• 22:35
  Oh, it's just, oh, let's go tomorrow.
• 22:37
  I go, there's gotta be something better.
• 22:38
  I'm like, serious.
• 22:39
  It's like, you know, and they think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
• 22:42
  Like, oh, we solved this problem, we're the greatest.
• 22:44
  I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
• 22:45
  I'm not the only one.
• 22:46
  'cause all these other people too are, you know, in the same boat
• 22:49
  that we're on this flight, we're looking for passenger Marcos.
• 22:55
  Third for brown hold and iron glance.
• 22:59
  So then finally after about 45 minutes, I didn't get a phone
• 23:02
  call or nothing like that.
• 23:03
  All I get is another text with the thing saying, oh, okay,
• 23:05
  now you're flying to Chicago.
• 23:06
  Then Chicago, of course I might get in the person, but then I
• 23:08
  look at my seat, I'm like, all right, you are in the window seat.
• 23:12
  Okay, no problem.
• 23:13
  I changed the middle.
• 23:15
  It's premium plus I ain't gonna complain.
• 23:17
  It's still, you got the nice seat, everything like that, but you know it's
• 23:19
  not your own little cubicle, whatever.
• 23:20
  So it is a downgrade.
• 23:22
  Yes.
• 23:22
  So I get to Chicago, which you fly enough, you get to learn to airports.
• 23:25
  They have Diet Mountain Dew Hopkins.
• 23:27
  There's only two of the food places up Soon as you go through
• 23:29
  TSA that, so you gotta like buy 'em and walk all the way down.
• 23:32
  But anyways, it's a different story.
• 23:33
  He builds all his travel around where he can acquire Diet Mountain Dew.
• 23:37
  Exactly.
• 23:37
  And it's critical.
• 23:38
  It's like, I'm gonna do a travel guide on it.
• 23:39
  They had it, so I you like, I bought a couple, so I'm waiting 'cause
• 23:42
  it was like two hours, whatever before the flight was going over.
• 23:44
  So I call United said, Hey, uh, you got me there, which is great.
• 23:47
  I go, but what are you gonna do about the downgrade?
• 23:51
  Can you do something right?
• 23:52
  What are you gonna do?
• 23:53
  Nothing.
• 23:54
  And I just gave up.
• 23:55
  I mean I didn't even bother after I got home to bother with any of that.
• 23:57
  I'm like, it's just a waste of time.
• 23:58
  And the best part is, while this is all happening, you're texting
• 24:01
  with me, I'm talking with David Middleton, I'm talking with David
• 24:04
  Lowe from the A CO, all this stuff.
• 24:06
  And my flight had changed 'cause I was supposed to go to Boston and go over.
• 24:09
  Yeah.
• 24:09
  And I got redirected to Detroit and then went over and we were trying to
• 24:13
  figure out when are we gonna land?
• 24:14
  When are we gonna be there?
• 24:15
  Oh my God, you're gonna have to wait for me.
• 24:17
  And then it turned out I was waiting for you and like it was a whole circus and
• 24:21
  no, almost basically it was a flip flop.
• 24:23
  'cause it would've been, originally I was gonna get there 40 minutes for
• 24:26
  you and then now it just flipped.
• 24:27
  And you got there four minutes for me and I worked out big
• 24:30
  things just getting over there.
• 24:31
  But you get nervous 'cause you're like, okay, is this kinda
• 24:33
  gonna set the tone and whatnot?
• 24:35
  It's going over there.
• 24:35
  It's like.
• 24:36
  You know what got there.
• 24:37
  It was great.
• 24:38
  Now, of course, the one thing I will say is my partner for the trip stated
• 24:42
  that he's at the enterprise, but there's five different hubs and terminals over
• 24:46
  there at Charles de Golf, and each one has their own rental car thing.
• 24:50
  So I'm down in this parking garage, wandering around looking for,
• 24:53
  alright, where the frick is he?
• 24:54
  And he is like, oh, I'm standing right in front of the thing.
• 24:57
  I'm like, no you're not.
• 24:57
  He goes, no, there's only the one.
• 24:59
  I'm over at two.
• 25:00
  Like, well I'm in five so I'll be there in a half hour 'cause I gotta take a train.
• 25:04
  Eventually found him.
• 25:05
  It only took an hour.
• 25:07
  I mean, you know, and walking forever, five miles I think it was.
• 25:09
  I, I was amazed 'cause the last time I went, I went with Dave
• 25:12
  Middleton, you know, I was texting him and all this kinda stuff.
• 25:15
  He was on his way back to Germany anyway, and I'm like, Hey,
• 25:18
  remember, and this and that.
• 25:19
  And it took him like two hours to get through customs.
• 25:21
  I blazed through customs in like two minutes.
• 25:24
  I did too.
• 25:24
  Yeah.
• 25:25
  It was amazing.
• 25:26
  Yeah.
• 25:26
  So I go to the rental counter and I'm talking to the guy and he's like,
• 25:29
  wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 25:31
  Tell him what you thought you were getting.
• 25:32
  Well that's, that's what I'm getting at, right?
• 25:33
  So I'm talking to the rental guy.
• 25:35
  I said, please make sure I'm in France.
• 25:37
  I would like a French car.
• 25:38
  The last time I was here I got an Italian car, doesn't make any sense to me.
• 25:41
  Like I would like to rent a French car.
• 25:43
  And he's like, oh, not a problem.
• 25:44
  I already have you booked in one.
• 25:45
  I have a EO 2 0 8.
• 25:47
  I said, oh, okay.
• 25:48
  2 0 8. That's awesome.
• 25:49
  I was like, is it a GTI?
• 25:50
  And he goes, oh yeah, GT series.
• 25:52
  Oh cool.
• 25:53
  'cause I'm thinking Hot hatch 2 0 8, this is gonna be awesome.
• 25:56
  There's only the two of us.
• 25:57
  We can go bombing down some B roads with this thing.
• 25:59
  'cause I think the two eight is really good looking car.
• 26:02
  GTI sized it's appropriate hot little engine and all this kind of thing.
• 26:06
  Even if it had a downgraded version of the motor, I still
• 26:09
  would've been happy with it.
• 26:10
  So I tell William, I'm all excited.
• 26:11
  We're getting to 2 0 8, this is gonna be great.
• 26:13
  This is gonna be fantastic.
• 26:14
  Hopefully it's not that metallic mustard color that they come in.
• 26:17
  So they send us not to the normal parking lot that I'm used to
• 26:21
  where the cars are right there.
• 26:22
  'cause I kept looking at it.
• 26:23
  Some really cool stuff in the lot, the brand new Ipson, some Audis, like other
• 26:27
  stuff was in the, I was like, okay, well I don't see a 2 0 8 anywhere in the lot.
• 26:30
  I'm like, oh no, no, no, no.
• 26:31
  You gotta go to the bowels of de gall.
• 26:33
  Yeah.
• 26:33
  Three levels down into this parking garage where they hide
• 26:37
  all the cars under the airport.
• 26:38
  It's like subterranean, right?
• 26:39
  And we get down there and it looks like something out of black mirror and we're
• 26:44
  just walking and walking and walking.
• 26:46
  And there's just row after tunnel after row after tunnel of just cars and cars
• 26:52
  And cars are like, where the hell are we?
• 26:54
  And we finally get, it's like 24 out of 26 or something like that.
• 26:58
  And we get all the way down, the far end end, we're walking down
• 27:01
  the aisle and I'm like, I don't see any two oh eights anywhere.
• 27:04
  The key, when you blink the key, it wouldn't make any noise.
• 27:07
  So it was like, where is it?
• 27:09
  So we found this one guy, he was this random guy sitting in a chair.
• 27:12
  I guess he's the attendant.
• 27:13
  No booth, no nothing.
• 27:14
  Just in a chair.
• 27:15
  Yeah.
• 27:15
  He's just sitting there in the garage underground all day long.
• 27:18
  That's what he gets paid to do.
• 27:19
  And I'm like, I'm looking for this car and I can't find it.
• 27:22
  So he looks at the little tag and he walks us over and he goes, boop.
• 27:25
  And he blinks the lights and he goes, this is your car.
• 27:28
  I'll look at William.
• 27:29
  And then I run to the back of the car and I'm like, 2008.
• 27:32
  What is this?
• 27:33
  I forgot to add a zero.
• 27:34
  Oh on that little description.
• 27:39
  It was a manual, which is exactly what I wanted.
• 27:41
  But here's the deal.
• 27:42
  And Tanya, you can sympathize.
• 27:44
  'cause when we get to the Italy part of this, you could
• 27:46
  talk about your rental car.
• 27:47
  2008 is the size of a Tiguan.
• 27:49
  The older Tiguan, about that size.
• 27:51
  C-U-V-S-U-V, whatever.
• 27:53
  Do you know the specs of a 2008 peo?
• 27:56
  How many cylinders?
• 27:57
  How many hears pers on a scale of dog?
• 28:00
  Shit.
• 28:00
  Slow to Pretty much.
• 28:02
  Yes.
• 28:03
  Yeah, it's a turbo.
• 28:05
  I'll give you that.
• 28:05
  It is a turbo.
• 28:06
  It's a, it's an odd number of cylinders.
• 28:08
  We'll tell you that.
• 28:09
  Is it really a three cylinder Yes.
• 28:10
  Three cylinder of turbo?
• 28:11
  Yes.
• 28:14
  How many Hearst pers 115.
• 28:17
  115. That's generous.
• 28:18
  Oh man, that Jetta made 115 horsepower.
• 28:22
  You kidding me?
• 28:22
  We looked it up.
• 28:23
  I don't remember what the torque numbers were.
• 28:25
  'cause it did feel torque.
• 28:26
  Year 75 horsepower for something that weighs 3,200 pounds with two adult.
• 28:32
  And their luggage in it.
• 28:33
  So you can imagine how fast it was.
• 28:35
  Well, he thought it was a diesel.
• 28:36
  When we were leaving.
• 28:37
  It sounded like a diesel.
• 28:39
  I was like, oh, they gave us a diesel.
• 28:40
  We're screwed.
• 28:41
  So I would've scorched it off the line in my 40-year-old.
• 28:47
  Yes, a thousand percent Audi.
• 28:49
  A thousand percent.
• 28:51
  It did have that diesel sound to it.
• 28:53
  It hummed kinda like a motorcycle at high RPM.
• 28:55
  It revved up pretty quick.
• 28:57
  It just didn't do anything when it revved up.
• 28:59
  No.
• 29:00
  So it didn't, it got horrible fuel economy too.
• 29:03
  We're gonna talk about that.
• 29:04
  Yeah.
• 29:04
  So no, the fuel economy was amazing actually.
• 29:07
  Just enough.
• 29:08
  Just enough.
• 29:09
  Just enough.
• 29:10
  So it was toy, I think what saved it was the gearing was so tight
• 29:14
  and so short that it must have been like a four 11 final drive because
• 29:18
  it would spin up pretty quick.
• 29:20
  That's all it was, saving that car.
• 29:21
  'cause otherwise it wouldn't get out of its own way.
• 29:24
  So it took us an hour and a half to get out of Paris.
• 29:27
  Yeah.
• 29:27
  But yeah, you have to cut through it.
• 29:28
  So it took forever.
• 29:30
  And then the two and a half hours to Lama, three hours after that on the
• 29:33
  highway to get to the middle of nowhere.
• 29:35
  Driving through Indiana.
• 29:37
  That's what he told me.
• 29:38
  He's like, I flew all the way here to drive through Indiana.
• 29:42
  That part of France is like flat and just farmland and boring.
• 29:46
  And if you've driven on Route 70 going east or west in the middle of the
• 29:50
  country, it's almost exactly the same.
• 29:51
  It's like, all right, whatever.
• 29:52
  So we show up finally in downtown Lamont.
• 29:56
  I had never been there because the last time I went I stayed at the track.
• 29:59
  So that's what we did.
• 29:59
  So we're in downtown Lamont and I turned to you and I go, so we drove
• 30:03
  through Indiana to end up in Baltimore.
• 30:04
  Yeah, because that's what it looks like, the trams and everything.
• 30:07
  Oh yeah.
• 30:08
  All of it.
• 30:08
  Turns out Williams like, oh, my Airbnb is across the street from you.
• 30:12
  Well, across the street was under a bridge.
• 30:14
  Through a tunnel, but realistically, on the other side, on the other side of the
• 30:17
  block, I was directly out the front door of the downtown Lamont train station.
• 30:22
  So that was like right there.
• 30:23
  And we're like, oh, okay.
• 30:24
  This is cool.
• 30:25
  And it wasn't far from the track.
• 30:26
  It was what, three, four miles?
• 30:28
  Yeah, it wasn't that far.
• 30:29
  I mean, a little traffic in there, but yeah.
• 30:30
  Well, it depends on which route we went that day.
• 30:32
  That was just it.
• 30:33
  So the GPS never took us the same way twice.
• 30:36
  No.
• 30:36
  And it would take like a half an hour to go three miles.
• 30:39
  It was absolutely insane that one time we came back, we went down these roads.
• 30:44
  Where it's like, if you've seen those episodes of Top Gear where they're in
• 30:47
  Italy and they're trying to fit the car between the walls, it was really tight.
• 30:52
  Cars just parked as tight as they could be.
• 30:53
  And I'm like, are these one way streets?
• 30:55
  What if a car comes the other way?
• 30:57
  I mean, it was nuts.
• 30:58
  It wasn't as stressful as it is to drive in Paris, but it was really
• 31:00
  just kind of a obnoxious, the way Lama is laid out, it's very industrial,
• 31:05
  it's very tight, it's very old.
• 31:07
  It's cute, I guess you could say.
• 31:08
  Yeah, it's a lot of one way stuff.
• 31:09
  'cause of those trams, that's what kinda screwed everything up.
• 31:12
  'cause all of a sudden it'll be one way.
• 31:13
  So you gotta go through these little enclaves or whatever and that's the route.
• 31:17
  And they love a traffic circle.
• 31:18
  Geez, we But your hotel was remodeled, which was nice.
• 31:23
  I had a fiat in the lobby.
• 31:24
  It was awesome.
• 31:24
  Closet you had was a little tiny.
• 31:26
  Oh my God.
• 31:27
  Oh yeah.
• 31:28
  I had initially booked the room thinking David Middleton was coming with us.
• 31:32
  And I booked a room with two beds.
• 31:34
  And the pictures, everything looks bigger 'cause he's a fish eye lens and whatever.
• 31:37
  William comes, I checked out his Airbnb, which was super nice.
• 31:40
  He had a ton of space.
• 31:41
  I go up to my room, which was the coldest place in all of Europe.
• 31:44
  Yeah.
• 31:45
  Below zero all the time in that room.
• 31:46
  It was ridiculous.
• 31:47
  But I walk in and I'm like, oh my God.
• 31:49
  And he just looks at me, starts laughing.
• 31:51
  It's not two king beds or two queen beds.
• 31:54
  No, no.
• 31:54
  Two twins that are basically next to each other.
• 31:57
  And I'm like, oh my God.
• 31:59
  That would've been hilarious if Middleton did end up coming because
• 32:01
  you, I'm like, oh Lord, one of you would've been sleeping on my couch.
• 32:04
  He wouldn't have cared.
• 32:05
  He'll tell you the story.
• 32:06
  We shared a room in fer.
• 32:07
  But we'll leave that where it is.
• 32:09
  Yeah.
• 32:09
  But my r and b was nice.
• 32:10
  I had one bedroom.
• 32:11
  I mean it was ground for full kid.
• 32:13
  I mean it was nice to had this courtyard.
• 32:15
  The young couple above me, the kid worked at uh, he's A BMW salesman,
• 32:19
  the dealership there and they just adopted this cute little spaniel
• 32:23
  puppy and Oh yeah, it was great.
• 32:25
  He was having a good old time.
• 32:26
  Oh yeah.
• 32:27
  Meanwhile, the first day there was nothing going on at the track.
• 32:30
  So we went to the museum and figured, knock that out, get that outta the
• 32:33
  way, go to the official boutique, which is the official merchandise
• 32:37
  store and all that kinda stuff.
• 32:38
  So William, your impressions on the museum seeing it now, outside of the
• 32:41
  pictures that I had showed you when I went the first time, it's very car centric.
• 32:44
  You can see where they're getting to.
• 32:46
  But I mean, no, you go to some places, the settings all there, they really sell
• 32:49
  it on the ambiance, stuff like that.
• 32:51
  And obviously, you know, they're doing a huge expansion.
• 32:54
  Probably two years it'd be done, but it'd be cool to see what
• 32:56
  they end up finishing with.
• 32:57
  It's great because it's about the cars, it's about to race, stuff like that.
• 33:00
  And again, it's not some massive thing where you can get lost in it and it's
• 33:04
  like, well why do they have this here?
• 33:05
  You know, it's Lamont Cars.
• 33:06
  Cars that race at Lamont.
• 33:08
  It was a great way to start the trip for sure.
• 33:09
  Membership has the privileges, an A CO. So if you ever go, be sure you are an A
• 33:14
  CO member 'cause you get 'em for free.
• 33:15
  Yeah, that was awesome.
• 33:16
  And the other thing I love about that museum is.
• 33:18
  It's in chronological order.
• 33:20
  Yes.
• 33:20
  So you start with the earliest cars and you wind up with the newest winners and
• 33:24
  then they had their McLaren display and then they expanded and added the 24 hours
• 33:28
  of Motos display, which is pretty cool.
• 33:30
  I'm hoping when they expand the museum in the next couple of years, maybe they'll
• 33:33
  have some of the big trucks in there and some of the other stuff that they run.
• 33:36
  That would be really, really cool to see.
• 33:38
  You know, I didn't ask and I don't know if you had seen it but you know, 'cause
• 33:41
  you go to some of those ones kind of like when you go to an art museum, you
• 33:43
  get the headphones and you're like, you just do your own walking tour.
• 33:45
  I dunno if they had that, that'd be kind of cool if they did that.
• 33:48
  Yeah.
• 33:48
  But it was awesome to start from the beginning and you get all the way to
• 33:52
  wasn't last year's winning car was two years ago winning car, wasn't it?
• 33:56
  Still all dirtied up, everything like that, which is cool like how they kinda
• 33:58
  do for Daytona and stuff like that here.
• 34:00
  But it's really neat 'cause you can just see how things progress
• 34:03
  and were, and how things changed technologically, everything like that.
• 34:06
  And how went from street cars to full on race cars, kind of back to
• 34:10
  street cars, back to full on race car.
• 34:12
  I mean.
• 34:12
  So it's really neat to see that progressive and seeing the jump in
• 34:15
  certain areas where you can see like what it was like a huge jump in regards
• 34:18
  to aerodynamics and just the engineering thought that went into going something
• 34:22
  a totally different route in regards to just following the same old shit.
• 34:26
  It's really great.
• 34:26
  I mean it's definitely something you need to go see when you're there
• 34:29
  and it's right at the front gate.
• 34:30
  You can't miss it right at the front.
• 34:31
  Yeah, it's right there.
• 34:33
  Did we go shopping after that or was that the next.
• 34:35
  Yeah, no, we went in because, yeah, 'cause we were looking at
• 34:37
  buying, I bought some books and I bought the remote control 4 9 9.
• 34:40
  Yeah, yeah.
• 34:41
  Got it.
• 34:41
  And the guy was there at the classic autograph and I was like, oh crap, I
• 34:45
  could've brought it, had him sign 'em.
• 34:46
  But he does those really cool comic book type storybook that were really, yeah.
• 34:50
  And they're cheat.
• 34:50
  There's only like 10, 12 bucks thing know, it was like I bought a couple of
• 34:53
  them again is that scenario you can kind of go through and you could spend a crap
• 34:57
  load of money if you really wanted to.
• 34:58
  But then you get into, which we kind of had this discussion is we'll get into the
• 35:02
  third day or second day we were at the track to, okay now space in my suitcase.
• 35:06
  Yeah, we mentioned at the museum too, it's like, well let's see
• 35:08
  if maybe it's somewhere else you can find a better price on it.
• 35:10
  If not, you can come back in the museum and buy it.
• 35:13
  But you know, I had a lot of cool stuff.
• 35:14
  I mean I could have went to town buying a lot of the books they had there.
• 35:17
  I bought the one.
• 35:17
  But like, just historical, everything like that.
• 35:19
  I mean just fantastic stuff there.
• 35:21
  It's nice 'cause it's, again, you can actually put your
• 35:23
  hands on everything like that.
• 35:24
  Yeah.
• 35:24
  So, but it's always gotta keep in mind if European sizes.
• 35:27
  To American sites.
• 35:28
  Oh boy.
• 35:28
  Because that is the dilemma you can run into.
• 35:30
  That can be a big problem.
• 35:32
  So day two, a Lama classic, the track is still not hot, they're still
• 35:36
  teching, they're getting cars ready.
• 35:38
  So we end up doing some shopping at all the different pagodas
• 35:41
  that are there in the villages.
• 35:42
  And then we do the paddock tour.
• 35:43
  Exactly.
• 35:44
  And I didn't know this, you know, I'm thinking, oh this is
• 35:46
  great how they have this set up.
• 35:48
  No on tracks, just all tech and stuff like that.
• 35:50
  All the cars are in the paddock.
• 35:51
  Once you can try and figure out which paddock is which and where they're all at,
• 35:55
  then you can go walking through 'em all.
• 35:56
  But then obviously go through all the merchandise day and stuff like that.
• 35:59
  You can take that time to do it.
• 36:00
  It's not like you got a day where there's all this on track stuff going on.
• 36:03
  Like, well I gotta watch what's going on in the track.
• 36:04
  Well, but I wanna go see this.
• 36:06
  You know?
• 36:06
  So yeah, you can spend that time and get the lay of the
• 36:08
  land and it's awesome to see.
• 36:10
  I know how they everything set up, but I didn't know previous tions of that.
• 36:13
  They didn't have that on Thursday.
• 36:14
  They jumped right in on a Friday and went, oh wow.
• 36:17
  So you didn't have that opportunity to do it.
• 36:18
  So I was like, oh this is great.
• 36:19
  It's just really cool to see.
• 36:20
  'cause everything's there.
• 36:21
  You can get right up on the cars.
• 36:23
  A couple of 'em here and there had kind of roped off and so they should have, because
• 36:27
  they were rather expensive vehicles.
• 36:28
  But 99% of 'em just walk right along the side, go talk to the
• 36:32
  crews, everything like that.
• 36:33
  So you can really get.
• 36:35
  Into it and looking at what they were doing and what the car was.
• 36:37
  And that was really cool.
• 36:38
  And they had some very unique cars there too.
• 36:40
  Yeah, that was awesome.
• 36:42
  You know, I mean it's, 'cause you, you had that access to get right up on 'em.
• 36:45
  I mean it was, it was awesome.
• 36:47
  Well, we never made it to the group C Paddock because they
• 36:49
  must have put it at the airport.
• 36:50
  It was so far away.
• 36:51
  Yeah.
• 36:51
  From everything.
• 36:52
  Yeah, exactly.
• 36:53
  They kept those cars hidden, but they were blocked off by eras.
• 36:57
  So you'd go into, you know, 1923, which is the beginning
• 37:01
  of Lama, to like, I think 1933.
• 37:03
  And then the next one was like 34 to whatever.
• 37:05
  And then there was like all the heyday of the Ferrari were all together and
• 37:08
  then, you know, the hoopla, the sixties with the GT forties and all that stuff.
• 37:12
  So they had all these like corrals just for the paddocks and you would
• 37:15
  move from one era to the next, which I thought was really, really cool.
• 37:18
  And then the legends of lama, those were up in a big pavilion, really
• 37:22
  pretty with the restaurants around it.
• 37:24
  That's where like all the main stationary shops are and everything.
• 37:27
  Yeah.
• 37:27
  So that was really cool.
• 37:28
  And then you had car clubs?
• 37:29
  Like everywhere.
• 37:30
  Oh, everywhere.
• 37:31
  Oh my goodness.
• 37:32
  You know, obviously it's a big place, the whole track itself.
• 37:35
  'cause they weren't using the Bugatti circuit, so that's where they had a
• 37:38
  lot of these clubs and yeah, it was one of those deals where every day
• 37:40
  we all of a sudden figured out there was something new we stumbled on.
• 37:43
  It was just like, oh geez, I didn't know this was here.
• 37:45
  You know?
• 37:46
  'cause you're just kind of going around following stuff, trying to figure out.
• 37:48
  And that was neat too 'cause you always find something new but it just,
• 37:51
  the car clubs itself are awesome.
• 37:53
  Well I read there was 8,000 cars on display, everything under the sun.
• 37:57
  You saw how big that place is.
• 37:59
  It didn't feel like it, but there were cars everywhere on display in groupings.
• 38:03
  What?
• 38:03
  I mean, again, it was fantastic 'cause it was kinda like get your
• 38:05
  cars and coffee almost in essence.
• 38:07
  Well I mean the Shelby Village alone was the size of the normal car shows.
• 38:10
  Huge.
• 38:11
  Yeah.
• 38:11
  And we find, didn't find that till the last day when it was raining too.
• 38:13
  That was the other thing too.
• 38:14
  Trying to find John Pierre and, and going there.
• 38:16
  And we met Mr. Aaron Shelby as well.
• 38:18
  But yeah, so it's like that alone, I mean, God now kicking ourselves that
• 38:22
  we didn't find that the day before because they must have had at least a
• 38:25
  hundred different variations of Shelby.
• 38:27
  GT 40, GT three.
• 38:29
  Oh it's insane.
• 38:29
  Cobras everything.
• 38:30
  It was just nuts.
• 38:31
  Well that and the original Shelby car carriers and the trucks.
• 38:34
  Yeah.
• 38:35
  And like all, oh, it was nuts.
• 38:36
  That was really cool to see.
• 38:38
  But the one thing I will say is I still can't understand why they call
• 38:41
  the different groupings plateaus.
• 38:42
  You know, I don't, I don't know why Plateau.
• 38:45
  And that was what the class they call Plateau two.
• 38:47
  Plateau One Plateau.
• 38:48
  What?
• 38:48
  And so the first day, though, I mean, that opens up a can of worms when you
• 38:51
  start going shopping because they have anything in everything under the sun that
• 38:55
  you could want, that you desperately want, that you desperately need in your mind.
• 39:00
  I need none of it, but I want all of it.
• 39:02
  Exactly.
• 39:03
  And it's kinda like the other place you go, a lot of them clustered up.
• 39:06
  A lot of 'em had the same things, so you kinda like could chop it, but
• 39:09
  90% of 'em all had different things.
• 39:11
  You know, you had all your models, stuff like that.
• 39:13
  But there were different types of models these places and just,
• 39:15
  I ended up buying some models.
• 39:17
  Eric's ended up buying some models because it's like, uh, you twisted my arm though
• 39:20
  and I'm, I am glad it is sitting here.
• 39:22
  I'll, I'll do a little show and show and tell.
• 39:24
  I had to buy a backpack to bring this home.
• 39:27
  This is sick wide body, second generation Audi Quatra coup.
• 39:31
  This is number 7 99 out of 2,500 that were produced.
• 39:35
  It was well worth it.
• 39:36
  Again, I had to buy a backpack.
• 39:37
  Just to bring it home, but it was priced good too.
• 39:39
  That was another thing too.
• 39:40
  It wasn't like it was obscenely priced, 119 Euros, so I paid
• 39:44
  more for model cars before.
• 39:45
  It was super cool.
• 39:46
  Yeah, and clothing wise, that was really cool too because there's a lot of stuff
• 39:49
  that you don't see over here, and when you go to any races here in the States,
• 39:51
  you know, you don't see any of this type of stuff that they're selling.
• 39:54
  You remember that Golf Mirage polo shirt that I bought?
• 39:56
  Yeah.
• 39:57
  My wife absolutely loves that.
• 39:58
  She's like, that was a super good pick.
• 39:59
  She's like, I really like it.
• 40:01
  Looks good on you.
• 40:01
  Nice colors.
• 40:02
  Yeah.
• 40:02
  Oh sure.
• 40:02
  I like the way it's made and that wasn't that expensive.
• 40:05
  We bought that from one of my favorite vendors.
• 40:07
  That I found the last time I was there, which is RS selection.
• 40:09
  They got some really nice stuff at really reasonable prices.
• 40:12
  If you're going in there to look for something special, you will definitely
• 40:14
  find something special there.
• 40:16
  A thousand percent.
• 40:16
  It's awesome.
• 40:17
  Great stuff.
• 40:18
  A tip.
• 40:18
  If you go take a really big suitcase and only pack it half
• 40:21
  full a thousand percent because you will leave with a lot of stuff.
• 40:24
  And again, it's not price bad either, so it's not that you're
• 40:27
  gonna spend thousands of dollars.
• 40:28
  The only thing you'll leave with less with is the money you started with.
• 40:31
  Yeah, exactly.
• 40:31
  Yeah.
• 40:32
  Your light wallet's gonna be a little bit lighter.
• 40:33
  But other than that, so we get to the first day of track time,
• 40:38
  which is practice and qualifying.
• 40:39
  Shout out to Ty and to Tebow.
• 40:41
  Are we allowed to use his real name?
• 40:42
  I'm not sure some secret squirrel stuff going on there, but shout out to them.
• 40:47
  I hung out with them when we were at the hundredth Lamont.
• 40:49
  Great guys.
• 40:50
  A lot of fun.
• 40:51
  Very knowledgeable about their area of the car world, especially Porsches
• 40:55
  and Renos and stuff like that.
• 40:56
  So we hung out with them for a while and then unfortunately I got called away.
• 40:59
  I had some a CO obligations that I had to take care of.
• 41:02
  And then you went off venturing and wandering and filming and
• 41:05
  being our roving reporter.
• 41:06
  So that kind of sucked up that whole day.
• 41:09
  But we gotta talk about some of the VIP experiences that we had.
• 41:12
  Yeah.
• 41:12
  Throughout the two days of racing that we got you going off to do what
• 41:15
  you had to do was very beneficial.
• 41:18
  For you.
• 41:18
  What ended up coming about with that?
• 41:20
  Fantastic.
• 41:21
  And it needed to happen too, but that was great.
• 41:23
  But yeah, we kind of stumbled onto some things that were like, it didn't
• 41:28
  seem like it was gonna be real.
• 41:29
  Our first thing we ended up in the BMW hospitality boost.
• 41:33
  Yeah.
• 41:34
  'cause we had found out, and it was very hush hush.
• 41:36
  It wasn't like they were shouting out to the world you could do this,
• 41:39
  that you could purchase a hot lap of the track now just like putting
• 41:42
  around in a bus with 50 other people.
• 41:44
  It was out the gate smoking the tires.
• 41:47
  It was 400 bucks.
• 41:49
  So you could split it if you want.
• 41:50
  So two people, I mean, you weren't driving, someone drove you, but
• 41:53
  it was a racer that drove you.
• 41:54
  It was in an M three touring.
• 41:55
  You guys were an M three.
• 41:57
  Yeah.
• 41:57
  But it was a hell of a deal and still not, you know, there was us
• 42:00
  three yourself and Mr. Withers.
• 42:02
  You go, you guys split it.
• 42:03
  And then I'm like, I go, I would spend $800 to do this myself.
• 42:06
  Yeah.
• 42:06
  Well worth the price of admission to do this.
• 42:09
  'cause it was unbelievable to be able to do, 'cause one,
• 42:12
  get the sense of the track.
• 42:13
  It's not as wise as it looks in TV at all.
• 42:15
  No at all.
• 42:16
  You know, and like he's, Eric said these guys, as soon as you
• 42:19
  got past that pit lane line.
• 42:21
  Boom.
• 42:21
  Floored.
• 42:22
  We're doing a buck 80 down the straightaway.
• 42:24
  Yeah.
• 42:24
  Bonkers guys.
• 42:25
  Were not messing around.
• 42:27
  I mean, having fun.
• 42:28
  I just, oh, it was great.
• 42:29
  But the cool thing was is Bill's, uh, wife Simone joined us that day.
• 42:33
  We tried to finagle it at first when we first went in to, to do
• 42:36
  the hot lab, 'cause you had to get your helmet and stuff like that.
• 42:38
  And the first, they kinda like being a little standoff, well no,
• 42:41
  she needed to sign it, da da da.
• 42:42
  It's like, well, it's paid for.
• 42:43
  So we're like, all right, we gave, it ain't gonna happen.
• 42:45
  Literally a minute before we're about to go.
• 42:47
  They're like, well, does she wanna go?
• 42:49
  Yeah, she wants to go.
• 42:50
  So she was able to jump in the car with me, which was awesome because she probably
• 42:54
  has never gone more than 65 miles an hour in her life, even on the highway.
• 42:57
  So it was hilarious.
• 42:58
  Listen to her giggle in the backseat when he's clicking off how fast we were going.
• 43:03
  'cause he's clicking off in kilometers, so he is like 2 80, 2 9, and it's like
• 43:06
  you're trying to calculate it out.
• 43:07
  You know, she's just laughing.
• 43:09
  That is alone.
• 43:10
  Like I said, that's worth $800 to do it.
• 43:13
  It gives you such perspective on the track that you cannot get from tv.
• 43:17
  We argue all the time as armchair quarterbacks going,
• 43:20
  why aren't they passing there?
• 43:21
  Just get around them, just go blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 43:23
  And then you realize it's a two lane road that they're doing 200 miles an hour
• 43:27
  on no shoulder and it's super narrow.
• 43:30
  Yeah.
• 43:30
  There is no room to pass.
• 43:32
  There's certain places where they've widened it a little bit, but
• 43:34
  realistically, when you're going down the mo sun, you get tunnel vision because
• 43:38
  you don't realize on tv, like all the trees, like how close everything is.
• 43:42
  Yeah.
• 43:42
  And then the two slowest corners going through, let's say Indian
• 43:46
  arage combination and then mosan corner, you need anti-gravity
• 43:50
  breaks to get through there.
• 43:51
  And then Yeah, it's like turning into somebody's driveway.
• 43:54
  It's a 90 degree corner.
• 43:56
  Yeah.
• 43:56
  And it's super narrow at that pace you're going through there like 40 miles an hour.
• 44:00
  It's insane.
• 44:00
  But what was really cool was Indianapolis Corner, and the Porsche
• 44:04
  curves obviously, but Indianapolis.
• 44:06
  Is banked.
• 44:07
  Yes.
• 44:07
  There's a ton of negative camra there that hooks the car and they come
• 44:11
  in just screaming with the tires on fire and it's just like, tap the
• 44:15
  brakes, let the turn, suck 'em in.
• 44:17
  And then they gotta lose all the speed going into Arage because
• 44:20
  that's a 90 degree righthander.
• 44:22
  Yeah.
• 44:23
  And it's just like, holy crud.
• 44:24
  But even there in that short stretch from Bolson to Indianapolis,
• 44:29
  they're back up to full speed again.
• 44:30
  You know?
• 44:30
  And then there's that kink.
• 44:31
  And again, on tv or even in a video game, you don't get the same perspective
• 44:37
  you do in the car and it becomes suddenly very real and Oh yeah.
• 44:41
  It's the shortest eight and a half mile lap you've ever done.
• 44:44
  Like it goes by in the blink of an eye, it's so fast.
• 44:47
  Oh yeah.
• 44:47
  But it's justifi because you're getting one lap, so they, they gotta cool down
• 44:51
  so you don't get a full lap, so you're not blasting through everything and
• 44:54
  then going back down the front straight.
• 44:56
  But to your point, that was eight and a half miles.
• 44:58
  Wow.
• 44:59
  Granted the cars we were in, yes, they were fast.
• 45:02
  But from what we are doing, you're probably take another 30 seconds off.
• 45:04
  Yeah.
• 45:05
  Wouldn't you think?
• 45:05
  Yeah, a hundred percent.
• 45:06
  And when the tires are warm and the cars actually warmed up and the
• 45:09
  brake, I mean, they just come out of the gate, the cars have been sitting
• 45:11
  there for hours, fire 'em up and just.
• 45:14
  Full bore out the door.
• 45:15
  And I'm like, yeah.
• 45:16
  Like I told my coach, you'll listen to it on the video that goes along with this.
• 45:19
  And I'm like, dude, the tires are cold.
• 45:21
  And he's like, yeah, yeah.
• 45:22
  And then he just steps on it even more.
• 45:23
  And I'm like, dude, yeah, let's warm them up.
• 45:26
  Yeah.
• 45:26
  And he's like, four wheel drifting outta one of the corners.
• 45:28
  I'm like, Bravo.
• 45:29
  We didn't die.
• 45:31
  Yeah.
• 45:31
  I mean, they did not hold back one bit.
• 45:33
  And again, that's what for the whole spirit is you would think
• 45:36
  in your mind like, okay, they're taking people out on the track.
• 45:39
  Yeah.
• 45:39
  You sign your life away, in essence when you sign your forms and stuff.
• 45:42
  Hit that line man foot to the floor and just gone.
• 45:45
  Yeah.
• 45:46
  They were not whole and going around all the court, I mean as fast as
• 45:49
  that thing could take it, they were going at it nose the tail.
• 45:51
  It was pretty awesome.
• 45:52
  Awesome.
• 45:53
  And to your point, the BMW booth was probably one of the coolest VIP
• 45:57
  experiences because we got to be over top of the pit box during the Group
• 46:02
  C run when they were qualifying and their pit change and all that stuff.
• 46:06
  And then obviously a pit fire broke out.
• 46:08
  You can check out the video.
• 46:08
  It's actually really comical.
• 46:09
  Yeah.
• 46:10
  But it was such a awesome view, such a great place to be.
• 46:13
  You're sort of in the middle of pit row too, so you could
• 46:16
  see from one way to the other.
• 46:17
  I mean it was, oh, that was awesome.
• 46:19
  That was, oh yeah.
• 46:19
  I mean the view and watch that was pheno food sucked.
• 46:22
  No Diet Mountain Dew beverages sucked.
• 46:24
  But the view was phenomenal.
• 46:25
  I mean, you're leaning right over and you check out the channels
• 46:28
  and the video, stuff like that.
• 46:29
  Everything's right there.
• 46:30
  And I mean, you get the sounds, the smell and everything like that.
• 46:33
  I mean, it just, and it was awesome when, and you wanted to use that adage
• 46:37
  of like a monkey to a football uhhuh and one of the stops and they're during one
• 46:42
  of the rings because it was just mass chaos from the perspective of, you know,
• 46:46
  these are historic cars, so normally you have a shop that's doing it, so that
• 46:49
  shop's doing other cars too as well.
• 46:51
  Yeah.
• 46:51
  So they were serving some other ones.
• 46:52
  So.
• 46:53
  You like had one guy that was by himself with about 20 people.
• 46:56
  Then he had five guys.
• 46:57
  With the five people working on all five cars.
• 46:59
  It seemed to be so, it was, it was really cool to see.
• 47:02
  But the sound, it's Clarkson says, gives you the fizz.
• 47:05
  It just, it warms you.
• 47:07
  I mean it just like, yes.
• 47:08
  I mean it just, it gets to your soul.
• 47:09
  It's so awesome.
• 47:11
  I still think the EO 9 0 5 B, the 19 92 1 with the V 10.
• 47:15
  Oh with the Jordan Formula one engine was the best sounding
• 47:18
  group C card there was by far.
• 47:20
  It just rips your ears out and it also kind of brings a tear to your eye.
• 47:23
  'cause you're like, that's when motors were motors in Formula One.
• 47:26
  Yes.
• 47:26
  Like they're pretty awesome.
• 47:27
  Yes.
• 47:27
  Talk about the pit stop.
• 47:29
  I still think those Porsche guys during the Porsche race heard you, because you
• 47:33
  want to talk about guys clowning around.
• 47:34
  They put this car in the air on the Jack with no Jacks stand.
• 47:38
  The dude slides underneath it and Williams's like leaning out and
• 47:41
  he's like, you think they should put a Jacks stand under there?
• 47:44
  Oh, OSHA's not involved over there one bit or anything.
• 47:47
  'cause in all I'm doing is just waiting for that thing to drop on
• 47:50
  this dude because I wouldn't trust that floor jack keeping that thing up.
• 47:55
  So from there I went with the A-C-O-U-S-A pre to the administrator's
• 48:00
  lounge, which is pretty cool.
• 48:01
  It's all a bunch of a CO people.
• 48:02
  They're even higher up.
• 48:03
  They've got a higher vantage point.
• 48:04
  It kind of sits almost directly above the BM BMW box.
• 48:07
  We went there for a little bit and then you and I went to the
• 48:10
  club to ot, which was pretty cool.
• 48:12
  Yeah, that's a different experience.
• 48:13
  That's like the exclusive driver's club.
• 48:15
  They have their own private box.
• 48:17
  It's all glassed in, got food, a whole bunch, good food, wine.
• 48:21
  They had the best food by far.
• 48:22
  Yes.
• 48:22
  So shout out to Charlotte Verne for doing that.
• 48:25
  And no air conditioning though.
• 48:26
  They don't believe in that.
• 48:27
  In Europe, they don't believe in that over there.
• 48:29
  Bit stuffy.
• 48:30
  It was.
• 48:30
  It was.
• 48:31
  And then if you opened the door, you got yelled at.
• 48:33
  Oh yeah.
• 48:34
  I mean you had some very pretentious people sitting in that thing.
• 48:37
  And it's like you look at it, so when you're in there, it's enclosed and,
• 48:40
  and when you're sitting in the thing, looking on the track, in the thing
• 48:42
  off to the right, there's a small little deck here, there's a door,
• 48:45
  you go out and right, there's deck.
• 48:46
  But then to the left, same thing, but it's much larger and it's got the
• 48:49
  grandstand seating over by the stairs.
• 48:51
  There's security, everything like that, keeping people from entering.
• 48:54
  So you're like, oh, it's part of it.
• 48:55
  So, and it was stuffy.
• 48:56
  So we went out there to someone inside decided to lock
• 48:59
  the door on us, like, oops.
• 49:01
  But on the other hand, you get to sit down and you get to talk with Jurgen
• 49:05
  Barth and you get to talk with Gerard Lause and you get to talk with all
• 49:08
  these pro drivers that are in there.
• 49:10
  So that was sort of cool.
• 49:10
  Yeah.
• 49:10
  And, and the club de Palat was our refuge when we got rained out on.
• 49:15
  Sunday.
• 49:15
  So that worked out really well 'cause it's the only place that is closed.
• 49:18
  So at that point I was like, well it's a little stuffy but I'm not wet.
• 49:21
  Yeah, it worked out well.
• 49:22
  I mean it's again, for experience wise, it's, you know, you're sitting there
• 49:25
  going, how in the hell did we end up here?
• 49:27
  Yeah.
• 49:28
  I mean it's one of those things like you're thinking to yourself,
• 49:29
  the people you mentioned are just hanging out in there, stuff like that.
• 49:32
  And again, it just adds to this experience that just seemed to
• 49:35
  get better and better and better.
• 49:37
  Yeah.
• 49:37
  And I kept collecting more and more armbands as time went on too.
• 49:41
  You need an armband to go everywhere, right?
• 49:42
  Yeah.
• 49:43
  And you need to scan your ticket to enter, you need to scan a ticket to
• 49:46
  leave or your armband or whatever.
• 49:48
  I mean, so they were gathering data left, right, and center.
• 49:51
  And then obviously we did all the A CO stuff like La Chappelle and the Our
• 49:54
  Tribune and that was all the Tribune was great for breakfast the morning.
• 49:57
  Yeah, it rained and all that stuff.
• 49:59
  But there's two more things that we did I think that are super cool.
• 50:02
  We had to split up in order to do them.
• 50:03
  So you went to the grid walk and I'll let you talk about that.
• 50:06
  And I went to the SPORTIF mode, which is the famous building you see on tv.
• 50:12
  The round one that has the panorama.
• 50:13
  It sits over top of start finish and you can see down the Porsche
• 50:17
  Chicanes down in, you know, where the Ferris wheel is and all that.
• 50:19
  And I will tell you the view from there, and I took pictures and
• 50:23
  stuff is absolutely incredible.
• 50:25
  Now granted, there weren't a lot of people up there.
• 50:27
  We could hear a pin drop.
• 50:28
  It was like a library up there.
• 50:30
  Club de OT had the best food.
• 50:31
  Hands down.
• 50:32
  We can agree on that.
• 50:33
  But the Sportif model, it's one of those places when you go up to that
• 50:36
  fifth level, you gotta have the special access and the handshake and the
• 50:39
  colored band and the whole nine yards.
• 50:41
  And you're just like, I am in a place.
• 50:43
  I think maybe this is where the Pope watches Lamonts.
• 50:46
  You know what I mean?
• 50:46
  Yeah.
• 50:46
  Like it's, it's super special.
• 50:48
  It's super exclusive.
• 50:50
  So that was really neat.
• 50:51
  Now could I have spent the whole weekend there?
• 50:53
  Not unless all my friends were with me because there wasn't enough atmosphere
• 50:56
  at classic versus what I was told is at the 24, that place is bumping.
• 51:01
  It's like a club and it's like a whole thing and there's music
• 51:04
  and you're watching the race.
• 51:05
  And so with a different group of people, different atmosphere,
• 51:08
  that would be a lot of fun.
• 51:09
  That would be holy cow.
• 51:11
  Sees so much from there it's got a 270 degree view.
• 51:15
  So it's like you can see all around you, which is awesome.
• 51:17
  That's a neat thing.
• 51:18
  Yeah.
• 51:18
  Been on cron 'cause right where that thing's located.
• 51:19
  I mean you're seeing down the one way you're seeing down the other way.
• 51:22
  I'm sure that was spectacular.
• 51:23
  And again, that was the cool thing too, is you got to be able to go do that stuff.
• 51:27
  I got the opportunity to go do some other things too.
• 51:29
  So I mean we got these experiences Yeah.
• 51:31
  That we can share.
• 51:32
  Yeah, we did a lot together and knew it but then we got to do these
• 51:35
  separate things that really kind of just took it to the moon in regards
• 51:38
  to what the experience was regarding.
• 51:40
  The grid walk was unbelievable and a huge thank you to Bill Withers
• 51:43
  'cause he had gotten a band to do it as a thank you for getting his wife
• 51:46
  to go on the, a hot lap, whatever.
• 51:48
  He gave it to me and I was unbelievably humbled that he
• 51:53
  actually, you know, gave that to me.
• 51:54
  'cause you can pay to get to do it but it ain't cheap.
• 51:57
  Probably the most expensive upgrade.
• 51:58
  Yes.
• 51:59
  It was like 1500 bucks or something, wasn't it?
• 52:01
  So it was insane.
• 52:02
  Yeah, it was crazy amount.
• 52:03
  So I mean that was like huge on his part.
• 52:05
  I mean I just like, I could not believe it.
• 52:06
  So yeah, that was really cool to go out there and there might've been, I
• 52:10
  don't know, 500 people, 300 people that probably got out there to do it out of
• 52:14
  the 200,000 that were in attendance.
• 52:16
  Uh, you wanna talk about humbling thing?
• 52:18
  'cause you know, so we go in and as you start going down the line,
• 52:21
  'cause you're at the tail end, things start thinning out where people start
• 52:24
  stopping to talk all this stuff.
• 52:25
  So, you know, you're not in such a crowd.
• 52:26
  But I got all the way down and was filming stuff that night.
• 52:29
  Stopped, got separated, like went out in the middle of the track up
• 52:33
  front as far as I almost could go.
• 52:34
  And I had to change my battery.
• 52:36
  So I'm down on the ground all of a sudden, you know, I stand
• 52:38
  up and I look at the crowd.
• 52:40
  You wanna talk about holy shit moment because I mean, right there alone's gotta
• 52:44
  be about 80, 90,000 people standing there and you know, they're looking at you
• 52:48
  going, how's this jackass get down there?
• 52:50
  It's very humbling to see that crowd like that.
• 52:53
  I mean, it's really puts things again into perspective for what these guys see.
• 52:57
  It's.
• 52:58
  Unbelievable seeing that and seeing what the lineup was.
• 53:01
  The cars talking to the guys.
• 53:03
  'cause they started out, I think it was Plateau four, I think it was.
• 53:06
  Yeah.
• 53:06
  It's all like the cobras and the GT forties.
• 53:09
  Yeah.
• 53:09
  All the stuff from the sixties.
• 53:10
  Yeah.
• 53:10
  That did the start.
• 53:11
  They did the running Laman start, which was epic.
• 53:13
  Yeah.
• 53:14
  They did the actual one and it's like, I'm amazed at a couple of the guys
• 53:17
  didn't fall over from heart attacks.
• 53:18
  That guy in that Cobra late elevens for quite a long time.
• 53:23
  There was a some sketchy moments, some of those guys pulling out
• 53:26
  going, Ooh, that's gonna be expensive, but that one's cool too.
• 53:28
  Bringing that back.
• 53:29
  They have done such an awesome job putting that together and just
• 53:34
  creating the experience and how and how you can partake in it.
• 53:37
  Yes, granted some of the stuff's gonna be a bit pricey, but you know, somehow
• 53:40
  some way if you can do it, I highly recommend trying to get all these
• 53:43
  experiences and especially when you buy your ticket, don't go buy the base thing.
• 53:46
  You gotta go buy the ones where you got the paddock access, everything like that.
• 53:50
  Become an ACL member.
• 53:51
  You get even more stuff that pays for itself tenfold.
• 53:54
  I'm telling you right now, thousand percent.
• 53:55
  It pays for itself tenfold.
• 53:56
  But it was just, again, the experience again, you know, you see Lifetime,
• 53:59
  it's gonna stick with lifetime.
• 54:00
  But that's something that's gonna stick at the forefront of your mind
• 54:02
  because it's just unbelievable.
• 54:04
  And the racing too.
• 54:05
  Yeah.
• 54:06
  Seeing those cars in picture, seeing them in a museum is one thing,
• 54:09
  but seeing a nine 17, seeing an Audi R eight, seeing a Ferrari 3
• 54:13
  33 SP a PEO 9 0 5 B at full tilt.
• 54:16
  Yeah.
• 54:17
  Lamont's Classic isn't a race, it's a freaking time machine.
• 54:20
  Like it's taking you back to that era of racing and suddenly you're like,
• 54:24
  it's as if you were there for real.
• 54:26
  And these guys aren't messing around.
• 54:27
  It's like Goodwood when they do the revival, not the Hill Climb,
• 54:31
  which is the festival of speed.
• 54:32
  Yeah.
• 54:32
  They're going at it.
• 54:33
  I mean, they're driving nine tenths.
• 54:35
  They're not messing around.
• 54:36
  And it's like, you guys okay, you're going home.
• 54:38
  First of all, I heard every driver pays like 10 grand or 40 grand or
• 54:42
  whatever the heck it is, and they're going home with a plastic trophy, but
• 54:45
  they're running the crap outta these cars that are in some ways priceless.
• 54:48
  Some of them are Oh yeah, one of one, right?
• 54:51
  And you're just like, what?
• 54:52
  Yeah.
• 54:52
  You're talking, this is high stakes poker right here.
• 54:55
  Seven Figure Cars, and some of 'em starting with the five to eight.
• 54:58
  Yeah, I mean, it's just.
• 54:59
  And God bless 'em too.
• 55:00
  And the cool thing is it's not like you're just hearing this engine just
• 55:02
  blip the throttle and just sitting there.
• 55:04
  I mean, you're hearing that thing coming out, full chat going,
• 55:06
  I mean it just singing unreal.
• 55:08
  And it makes you sit there going, why are they getting away from this?
• 55:10
  Yeah, you get it 'cause environment, this kind of stuff.
• 55:13
  But I mean there's gotta be some way to bring that back.
• 55:15
  'cause I mean it's, I wanna say majority of the conversations where
• 55:18
  when you kind of hear other people eavesdrop and whatnot, everything
• 55:22
  kept pointing out was about just how.
• 55:23
  Glorious those things sounded.
• 55:24
  Yeah, I mean just, oh, fantastic.
• 55:26
  And for those just, Hey, I dropped a 20 minute video and all it
• 55:29
  is is just all on track stuff.
• 55:31
  I'm not even talking, it's just hearing the cars go so awesome.
• 55:34
  Let them do the work.
• 55:35
  'cause I mean, that's all you need to hear.
• 55:37
  And Tanya, they beat us too at, we've joked about this before, like on the
• 55:40
  rich people, thanks where, you know, we should get the go-karts together that
• 55:43
  look like the replica cars and go racing.
• 55:45
  They do that at Lamont Classic with the kids and it is.
• 55:48
  Hilarious.
• 55:49
  Yeah, the cars look good.
• 55:51
  I mean, they're really cool.
• 55:52
  Yeah, definitely got the corner marketed on that too.
• 55:55
  Some of them couldn't even make it up the hill in that first straight
• 55:57
  'cause that is a hill that goes up.
• 55:58
  It is.
• 55:59
  It's deceptive.
• 56:00
  It's steep.
• 56:00
  Yeah.
• 56:00
  Yeah.
• 56:01
  I mean it's, you don't realize how steep that is.
• 56:02
  And it was ones that had two kids in it, so I think they pushing
• 56:05
  maximum weight limit on that.
• 56:06
  But it's really cool to watch.
• 56:08
  'cause I mean, God, they had to have close to 80.
• 56:10
  There was so many, I mean they had to grid 'em up going way back.
• 56:14
  I mean it was, it was really cool.
• 56:15
  Yeah.
• 56:15
  And they do qualifying for that too.
• 56:17
  Yeah.
• 56:17
  It's just hilarious.
• 56:18
  Yeah, I mean they take that stuff serious.
• 56:20
  That was really cool.
• 56:21
  See, 'cause it gets the kids involved, it gets them to doing something.
• 56:24
  A little side story.
• 56:25
  This is a point when I was kinda wandering around myself and I
• 56:27
  was walking past the one paddock.
• 56:29
  Sure enough, as it's trying to come out outta the paddock to go down to wherever
• 56:33
  this lister Kny was sitting there rumbling away and they're trying to turn
• 56:37
  right and you know, obviously, you know, these cars don't have any turn radius.
• 56:40
  Behind it was the bread van.
• 56:42
  But these three kids and those little carts were coming up.
• 56:44
  There's a car parked and they're trying to come, they stopped him right next
• 56:47
  to that car and they told the guy and the lister, Hey, alright, come out.
• 56:50
  So the guy's doing a 10 point turn to try and get around him side pipes right there.
• 56:54
  Blast these little kids right there at ear level.
• 56:56
  This guy going by.
• 56:58
  I'm like, just move those kids.
• 57:00
  Get 'em outta the way.
• 57:00
  Tell 'em to go.
• 57:01
  I'm just watching this take place going.
• 57:03
  That kid's gonna be deaf now.
• 57:05
  Yeah.
• 57:05
  But seeing those things go like that, and again, it was just those little things
• 57:08
  that all of a sudden it's like, oh my god.
• 57:10
  Elicit.
• 57:10
  But then the bread van infamous of Bread Van Ferrari right there,
• 57:14
  pulling out everything like that.
• 57:15
  I mean, again, talk about value of a car and everything like that.
• 57:18
  And she's like, great deal.
• 57:19
  Pulling on out, driving away.
• 57:20
  That was so cool.
• 57:21
  It was great because we talked last time I went to Lama two years
• 57:24
  ago, like how much walking David and I did and obviously mm-hmm.
• 57:27
  You know, we're recounting this, some of it for him because
• 57:29
  he's gonna listen to this.
• 57:30
  He's gonna get Yeah.
• 57:31
  More jealous than he was when we were texting him the whole time.
• 57:33
  Yeah.
• 57:34
  I was Florida.
• 57:35
  Yeah, I was Florida.
• 57:36
  Exactly.
• 57:36
  So we went from Tetra Rouge to the four Chicanes where the Ferris wheel
• 57:42
  and the Porsche Experience Center is.
• 57:43
  That's sort of like our area outside of the hot lap where we
• 57:47
  got to see the rest of the track.
• 57:48
  That's where we walked.
• 57:49
  I recalculated, we were just shy of 40 miles of walking in those four days.
• 57:54
  So that's not too long.
• 57:55
  Well now that was you.
• 57:57
  Yes.
• 57:57
  By yes.
• 57:58
  I had a few extra things in there because yeah, you're like a busy bee, so going
• 58:01
  around, but two of the days, because I have some ailments in my body that
• 58:06
  I reach maximum, I'm gonna go lay down because my body can't take anymore.
• 58:10
  Luckily, the tram goes out there, but it's not close.
• 58:13
  And found it the first day.
• 58:15
  And it was funny enough 'cause I was walking out and uh, Ty was walking there.
• 58:18
  I ran his, so I walked with him to it and I walked down the one street right there.
• 58:22
  He went past the K one cart.
• 58:24
  It wasn't bad.
• 58:24
  It was maybe a mile and a half at most, maybe a mile.
• 58:27
  So jump on and go.
• 58:28
  Well.
• 58:29
  Next day kind of saying I gotta go.
• 58:32
  They decide to close that stop for whatever reason.
• 58:35
  That's the coast to the track.
• 58:36
  They rock strike.
• 58:37
  Yeah.
• 58:37
  There's three other people.
• 58:38
  There's two girls standing there and then there's an Indian fellow
• 58:41
  standing there and we're sitting waiting at time's up there.
• 58:43
  I don't read French.
• 58:44
  I have no clue.
• 58:44
  They just goes right past us.
• 58:46
  Then guy's talking and we going basically, I could tell what he's saying.
• 58:49
  He is like, what the hell?
• 58:50
  I could make out that and look it up and think whatnot.
• 58:53
  And he points down.
• 58:53
  So I go, I guess this one's closed.
• 58:55
  We gotta go to the next one.
• 58:56
  So I'm hustling down the street to the next stop because I don't
• 58:59
  wanna get passed again by the train.
• 59:01
  It was nice.
• 59:01
  'cause the fact is where we were staying, it basically dropped you
• 59:04
  off right at where we were at.
• 59:05
  So, which was great.
• 59:06
  Didn't have do much walking out, but it was a hike just to get
• 59:08
  to that tram to take it back.
• 59:10
  And I don't, I never paid, I think, to buy the ticket I just hopped on.
• 59:15
  And if someone asked, I figured out.
• 59:16
  It's sort of like the Sonoma thing.
• 59:18
  You apologize now, next time you'll pay, right?
• 59:21
  Yeah.
• 59:21
  Well they, but I didn't feel bad because Wither's wife,
• 59:24
  Simone, she's the same thing.
• 59:25
  She just gets on and she goes, if someone asked, then I'll pay.
• 59:28
  Okay.
• 59:29
  I'm not the only one.
• 59:30
  So they asked, asks good it it's a lot of walking.
• 59:33
  We did a lot of walking.
• 59:34
  We did a lot of walking.
• 59:34
  Even when we got back, 'cause we walked everywhere even to go to dinner
• 59:37
  and we finally found what like the hot spots are for the restaurants
• 59:40
  and that was at Republic Square or whatever they call it, downtown Lamont.
• 59:43
  We finally found some good places to eat.
• 59:45
  We had dinner with some folks, so that was all good.
• 59:47
  We did a lot of car spotting while we were roaming around.
• 59:50
  Yeah, that was neat.
• 59:51
  All sorts of weird stuff that was out there.
• 59:53
  Like the sunburst 3 0 8 and you know, some of the other stuff that's just randomly
• 59:57
  parked like here and there and everywhere.
• 59:58
  I mean there's cars from all over, from Switzerland, from
• 1:00:00
  Italy, from France, from Jersey.
• 1:00:01
  People are coming in.
• 1:00:02
  Obviously 200,000 people coming in for this event.
• 1:00:04
  So you got cars all over the place and you start to recognize, oh those
• 1:00:07
  guys are at our hotel and they've got the triumph and you know, that's the
• 1:00:10
  guy with the three 30 Ferrari that was driving downtown or whatever.
• 1:00:13
  Yeah, I gotta do my hot car picks.
• 1:00:15
  I came in with two cars, I would've taken home from France
• 1:00:18
  Street cars are on the track.
• 1:00:19
  No, no street cars.
• 1:00:19
  Like I would take these cars home with me.
• 1:00:21
  They are a little bit more modern.
• 1:00:23
  So here, here are my hot picks for cars.
• 1:00:25
  I would take home from France.
• 1:00:26
  I already know which one is I?
• 1:00:28
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:29
  The first one is that EO 5 0 8 Sport Wagon.
• 1:00:33
  Remember that one?
• 1:00:34
  The really wide low?
• 1:00:35
  That thing was cool.
• 1:00:36
  Super aggressive.
• 1:00:37
  It looks kind of like a Audi RS six.
• 1:00:39
  That was hot.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah, that was sweet.
• 1:00:41
  Yeah.
• 1:00:42
  That's my number one pick.
• 1:00:43
  Yeah, that thing was killer, followed by the hotness of all hotness.
• 1:00:47
  That Alpine A one 10 R al team?
• 1:00:50
  Yeah, or whatever they pronounce that dude.
• 1:00:53
  That's what I would take too.
• 1:00:54
  I agree with you on that thousand, that thing was gorgeous that that car's
• 1:00:58
  gotta come here somehow, some way.
• 1:00:59
  I mean that thing was phenomenal at that level, that old team level.
• 1:01:03
  I mean that's basically a GT three specked car.
• 1:01:06
  I mean it's all gutted out and caged and there's carbon fiber every
• 1:01:09
  time you turn around on that thing.
• 1:01:10
  I mean, the only thing, it doesn't have sort of like the alpha male four
• 1:01:14
  C 'cause of the tub and everything.
• 1:01:16
  It doesn't have a manual transmission.
• 1:01:18
  No.
• 1:01:18
  So it It's all computerized flappy paddle.
• 1:01:20
  But you know what?
• 1:01:21
  Because of all the other cool stuff it comes with, I'm totally okay with it.
• 1:01:25
  Oh yeah, I agree with you on that.
• 1:01:26
  I mean, Matt, fair Smoking Tire channel, they got their hands on
• 1:01:30
  one, some has it here for a year.
• 1:01:32
  I know it was show display or something, but did what he had to do and they
• 1:01:34
  made the same exact comment in saying, you know what, you know you can't get
• 1:01:37
  AEM manager, but the way the gearbox, everything works, you don't miss it.
• 1:01:40
  Yeah.
• 1:01:40
  You know, it just.
• 1:01:41
  Unbelievable.
• 1:01:42
  But the other car I would've taken this F told TDF that was there.
• 1:01:44
  Oh yeah, that'd been the other one.
• 1:01:46
  But again, they were just parked up in the parking lot where we were parked,
• 1:01:48
  you know, underneath the car yet.
• 1:01:49
  But it just tells you the level of cars that were just out and about.
• 1:01:53
  I think that's one of the cool things about over there.
• 1:01:55
  Granted for us, it's driving for me, like Ohio to Indiana, to Michigan,
• 1:01:59
  whatever that, but you know, they're driving from France to Italy, you
• 1:02:02
  know, for UK and stuff like that.
• 1:02:03
  They take their cars and drive 'em on these road trips, which is awesome to see.
• 1:02:07
  It's a lot more prevalent over there than it is over here.
• 1:02:10
  I think it's really cool to see.
• 1:02:12
  But that's a cool thing going over there, just seeing the
• 1:02:14
  stuff that we can't get here.
• 1:02:15
  Stuff you can drool over, man.
• 1:02:17
  We should have that.
• 1:02:18
  And just, and, and not just the newer stuff, the older stuff as well.
• 1:02:21
  I mean, just stuff that like you know about, you've read about, especially
• 1:02:23
  like the hot hatches and stuff like that.
• 1:02:25
  It's like, man, these things are just so cool.
• 1:02:27
  I will say the one cool thing if you go there, when you go to the square
• 1:02:30
  area, when you figure out where the square's at, there is the coolest
• 1:02:34
  merry-go-round I've ever seen Two stories.
• 1:02:38
  Unbelievably beautiful.
• 1:02:39
  Really cool.
• 1:02:39
  Especially if you've got kids or little kids.
• 1:02:41
  I mean, is that the one next to the Kentucky Fried Chicken?
• 1:02:44
  Yeah, it's right next to the Kentucky Fried Chicken.
• 1:02:45
  You can't miss it.
• 1:02:46
  It adds a little ambiance.
• 1:02:47
  You can smell the wave of the fried chicken made no sense.
• 1:02:52
  So bizarre.
• 1:02:52
  Yeah, and they got the drive through window that nobody can drive up to.
• 1:02:55
  You walk up to the drive to it.
• 1:02:57
  So bizarre.
• 1:02:58
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:02:58
  There's a lot of contrasting things.
• 1:03:00
  'cause you know, you're walking in cobblestones, you have this beautiful
• 1:03:03
  old square and then all of a sudden there's Kentucky Fried Chicken.
• 1:03:05
  It was so bizarre.
• 1:03:06
  And, and that's the one thing, France food was super eclectic.
• 1:03:09
  I know if Brad was here with us, he'd be wanting to know about the food.
• 1:03:12
  Lots of Persian stuff and Indian and curries and like there was a good blend.
• 1:03:17
  It wasn't like the typical like, oh my God, we're gonna eat escargo.
• 1:03:20
  Or you know, something like that.
• 1:03:21
  It would, there was a really interesting mix of cuisine in France,
• 1:03:24
  so I wasn't disappointed with that.
• 1:03:26
  I don't know that we had a bad meal.
• 1:03:28
  Well, once we got found to a place that would serve Americans.
• 1:03:30
  Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  It wasn't bad at all.
• 1:03:31
  Well, there was that problem too.
• 1:03:32
  Yeah.
• 1:03:33
  You don't have a reservation.
• 1:03:34
  We'll let 20 other people in because you don't have a reservation.
• 1:03:37
  Exactly.
• 1:03:38
  Yeah.
• 1:03:38
  Whatever.
• 1:03:38
  As we said, you got French.
• 1:03:40
  Oh, that other place is better anyway.
• 1:03:42
  Yeah, well it turned out and you're eating three courses.
• 1:03:45
  God, and they look at you very strangely.
• 1:03:47
  If you don't eat one of the courses, they're like, look at you like you
• 1:03:49
  have a third head or something.
• 1:03:51
  Because man, you gotta have your app, your Maine, your dessert everyth like that.
• 1:03:54
  So it's like starve yourself a little bit to the day.
• 1:03:56
  'cause you will a hundred percent.
• 1:03:57
  We had this discussion over there too.
• 1:03:58
  It's how they're making money because it's not like here, the states where they're
• 1:04:01
  turning tables, turning tables like, Hey, we need four turns to this dinner service.
• 1:04:05
  They're basic.
• 1:04:06
  Like one turn.
• 1:04:07
  I mean that's just you.
• 1:04:07
  That's it.
• 1:04:08
  Then they're done.
• 1:04:08
  They close up shop, they go home.
• 1:04:10
  Bizarre.
• 1:04:10
  It's unbelievable.
• 1:04:11
  It's all baffling, but tweak their own.
• 1:04:13
  So God bless 'em.
• 1:04:13
  My number one top tip, if you go to Lama now that I've actually had to drive
• 1:04:18
  there and do that part of it, 'cause I didn't have to do that the first time.
• 1:04:21
  I would say the expo parking outside of the main gate across the museum,
• 1:04:26
  right by the T 22 Tribunes and all that stuff, which isn't far from the
• 1:04:30
  A CO Tribune and the Porsche box and the Club de Piot and all that stuff.
• 1:04:33
  That is choice.
• 1:04:34
  Like that is prime parking.
• 1:04:36
  It was quarter full.
• 1:04:38
  Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  It cost me 40 bucks to park there for four days.
• 1:04:42
  Undercover too.
• 1:04:43
  That's other nice.
• 1:04:43
  They have the solar panels everywhere.
• 1:04:45
  So I'm like, top tip, if you can buy expo parking, doesn't matter what event
• 1:04:49
  you're there for, buy those parking passes because it's a short walk to everything.
• 1:04:54
  That's the best spot to park, period.
• 1:04:56
  Five minute walk to that main gate right there.
• 1:04:58
  Done.
• 1:04:59
  I mean museums, right?
• 1:05:00
  Yeah.
• 1:05:00
  I mean 40 bucks.
• 1:05:01
  That's the deal.
• 1:05:02
  That's make a note of that because that was perfect.
• 1:05:04
  So let's talk about our return trip.
• 1:05:06
  We kind of alluded to this earlier on the way out to Lamont, it was sort of like,
• 1:05:12
  eh, typical traffic, blah, blah blah.
• 1:05:14
  Nothing really to write home about the way back though, because it was Sunday.
• 1:05:18
  Now remember back into our earlier discussion regarding gas mileage.
• 1:05:22
  Go ahead.
• 1:05:22
  Yes, yes.
• 1:05:23
  Yeah, we're gonna, Tanya wants to know about this.
• 1:05:25
  So they filled the car for me at Daal.
• 1:05:27
  We drove all the way to Lama.
• 1:05:28
  We run around, we get lost, we miss an exit or two a couple of times.
• 1:05:32
  That one we backtracked like 20 minutes lost all that time.
• 1:05:35
  So anyway, on our way back to the airport to Paris, we are rained out of the race.
• 1:05:40
  Like they red flagged a bunch of the plateaus, the sessions,
• 1:05:43
  whatever you wanna call them.
• 1:05:44
  So we hung out at the Club de Palat, and then you finally were like,
• 1:05:47
  man, let's get the hell outta here.
• 1:05:48
  Let's just beat the traffic of anybody leaving the track, and let's get out
• 1:05:51
  of the area and head back to Paris.
• 1:05:53
  What did we have, like maybe half a tank left or something like that on this.
• 1:05:56
  Little three cylinder corn popper.
• 1:05:58
  It was below half.
• 1:05:59
  Yeah, I mean, it was right there, but I was like, uh, if I do
• 1:06:02
  the math, it's this far away.
• 1:06:04
  We should be okay.
• 1:06:04
  It's mostly highway.
• 1:06:05
  It should have been fine.
• 1:06:06
  Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  Yeah.
• 1:06:08
  Should have been key work.
• 1:06:09
  So I prepaid the fuel and I was like, I'm not spending any money
• 1:06:12
  on this car if I don't have to.
• 1:06:13
  We're doing okay until we basically get to the edge of what I call
• 1:06:18
  Dante's nine circles of hell, which is all those circles of Paris.
• 1:06:21
  And we have to cut across Paris to get to De Gaul because it's on the
• 1:06:25
  north eastern corner or whatever.
• 1:06:27
  So you gotta go through all this mess to get there, and the traffic's
• 1:06:30
  getting worse and the rain's coming.
• 1:06:31
  And it's just like the last time I drove in Paris.
• 1:06:33
  And the drivers are super aggressive cutting people off, and the trucks
• 1:06:37
  just get over when they feel like it.
• 1:06:38
  And you're quietly sitting there and I'm like, gnashing my teeth the entire time.
• 1:06:43
  Well, I had a pee real bad.
• 1:06:44
  There was that too.
• 1:06:46
  And I'm like, we're not gonna make it.
• 1:06:48
  No, we're not gonna make, and then it was like the mileage was just plummeting.
• 1:06:51
  And I'm like, we're gonna have to stop.
• 1:06:53
  There's nowhere to stop.
• 1:06:54
  There's nowhere to get off.
• 1:06:55
  There's no fuel.
• 1:06:56
  Even the GP PS says there's no gas around.
• 1:06:58
  And then the car starts making weird.
• 1:07:00
  Bing, bing, bing.
• 1:07:01
  You're like, what was that?
• 1:07:02
  Ignore it.
• 1:07:02
  Making some big noises now like, okay, go a little further.
• 1:07:06
  Bing, bing, bing.
• 1:07:07
  And then a little light turns on.
• 1:07:09
  But one point it shot back up like, oh look, it did.
• 1:07:11
  And the mileage, because we started moving it, so it was like, oh,
• 1:07:14
  we're, we're in the home stretch.
• 1:07:15
  We're clear.
• 1:07:16
  And then the traffic doubled down on us and it got worse.
• 1:07:19
  And then more lights started turning on the dashboard.
• 1:07:21
  So I kid you not Tonya, we get to desal.
• 1:07:23
  Dugal is massive.
• 1:07:24
  I mean it's its own city and you're driving around and we're
• 1:07:27
  trying to get to the rental place.
• 1:07:28
  And so again, they love their roundabouts.
• 1:07:30
  It's like circling a toilet bowl to get to the rental car place and terminal too.
• 1:07:34
  So you gotta go all the way and go here and go there and this
• 1:07:37
  and that and the other thing.
• 1:07:38
  And we finally get there and it's all these lights are on the dash.
• 1:07:41
  I don't know if you saw 'em or not, William.
• 1:07:43
  Oh.
• 1:07:43
  But I've told them, I said We are gonna coast in, there's nothing left.
• 1:07:46
  So we get in there and I just, I put it in neutral and we roll in.
• 1:07:50
  According to the gauge, there was 10 miles left in the tank.
• 1:07:54
  Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Which I don't know was the truth because it was on zero.
• 1:07:57
  It was red.
• 1:07:58
  It was like that top gear episode where they sealed the gas tank and they kept
• 1:08:01
  driving and kept driving and they're like, when is it gonna run outta fuel?
• 1:08:04
  I think it was whatever was circulating in the fuel rail,
• 1:08:06
  it's what we were running on.
• 1:08:08
  Yeah.
• 1:08:08
  'cause there there was nothing left.
• 1:08:09
  Good luck getting that to the station of, fill it back up by.
• 1:08:12
  That's gonna be one of the fucking Americans.
• 1:08:16
  Hope they had a Jerry can somewhere with some gas.
• 1:08:18
  'cause that wasn't making it to the gas station.
• 1:08:20
  We got every penny out of that gas tank.
• 1:08:23
  The three cylinder turbo, all 75 horsepower got us to Lamont back on fumes.
• 1:08:27
  That's the only impressive part about that car was that Otherwise
• 1:08:30
  it was wholly unimpressive.
• 1:08:32
  Yeah.
• 1:08:32
  Ugh.
• 1:08:33
  I will say that the hotel, the Hilton, whatever's right there.
• 1:08:36
  Yeah, stay there.
• 1:08:37
  And another little tidbit, if you're coming back out and you got a flat
• 1:08:40
  stay at the Hilton, that's right there because you can get up in the morning,
• 1:08:43
  just walk right over to the airport.
• 1:08:44
  You roll out of bed and you're at your terminal.
• 1:08:46
  It's like done.
• 1:08:46
  Super easy.
• 1:08:47
  Nice hotel too.
• 1:08:48
  Good food restaurant's.
• 1:08:49
  Really good.
• 1:08:50
  Another recommendation for you guys, stay there 'cause it was awesome.
• 1:08:52
  So shout out again David Milton, we miss you next time.
• 1:08:56
  We are gonna shame you into going with us.
• 1:08:58
  So your trip ended, you went home.
• 1:09:00
  Other things going on?
• 1:09:01
  I continued the voyage and I met up with my family in Italy and my
• 1:09:06
  sister and my mom were already there.
• 1:09:07
  This is where Tanya picks up the story 'cause we're gonna talk
• 1:09:09
  about driving adventures in Italy.
• 1:09:19
  Tanya, you got there like a couple days before he went over, right?
• 1:09:22
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:23
  It's been a while since I've driven in Italy.
• 1:09:25
  So I have these not necessarily romantic fantasies about what it's like driving
• 1:09:30
  in Italy, but I began to realize about 20 minutes in to picking up the car at Maza.
• 1:09:36
  That driving in Italy has changed a lot.
• 1:09:39
  Remember I was telling you in the car, oh, just, you know, the French,
• 1:09:41
  they're aggressive, but when you get to Italy, it's like they're
• 1:09:44
  off the chain, they're unleashed.
• 1:09:45
  Everything's like a Grand Prix.
• 1:09:47
  And that might be true in Naples from what I understand, but the
• 1:09:50
  rest of Italy is, I don't know.
• 1:09:52
  'cause I guess you hadn't driven there in a hundred years.
• 1:09:54
  'cause the only thing I found different was I felt like there was more people
• 1:09:59
  taking too long to leave the left lane right to camp for passing.
• 1:10:03
  But otherwise.
• 1:10:05
  In the types of roads I would drive on.
• 1:10:07
  It wasn't like Autobahn in Germany, people were always normal.
• 1:10:11
  Is that because of the cameras and the systems that they use over there?
• 1:10:14
  The cameras have always been there.
• 1:10:15
  I'm like, what was it that you drove that they didn't exist?
• 1:10:18
  They were there when I drove 10 years ago.
• 1:10:20
  Right.
• 1:10:20
  I mean, the tele camera system tutor or whatever they call it that they have
• 1:10:25
  over there has been around a while, but now it feels like it's every 10 feet.
• 1:10:29
  So there's two different systems.
• 1:10:31
  Okay.
• 1:10:31
  The Tudor system on the large highways, and it's only on the big alto stratas,
• 1:10:36
  which is like our equivalent of 95 up and down the East coast or whatever.
• 1:10:40
  The Tudor system is an average speed camera, so it's actually
• 1:10:44
  not a point specific speed camera.
• 1:10:46
  So when you cross it the first time, couple miles later.
• 1:10:49
  You cross it again and it's supposed to calculate your average speed in
• 1:10:52
  that, cross the two, and then give you a ticket if you exceeded whatever
• 1:10:56
  the hell the average limit is.
• 1:10:58
  I'm so screwed
• 1:11:01
  because they're trying to not have somebody slam on the brakes two
• 1:11:05
  seconds before the speed camera and then do a million miles an hour and
• 1:11:09
  then slam on the brakes again, right?
• 1:11:11
  So if you kept an average speed, you're fine.
• 1:11:13
  Then they have the auto veloc system everywhere else, like in America
• 1:11:17
  where you have stationary cameras that are on the side of the road
• 1:11:20
  in various shapes, forms and sizes.
• 1:11:23
  Those are taking in point specific reading, but unlike hours which only
• 1:11:27
  work in the direction that the cameras pointed, apparently some of those doesn't
• 1:11:31
  matter which side of the road you're on, it can catch you in either direction.
• 1:11:35
  I'm so screwed.
• 1:11:36
  So if you thought you were safe, 'cause the camera's on the other side
• 1:11:40
  of the road so I can just keep going.
• 1:11:42
  Ooh, might not be the case.
• 1:11:45
  I've never gotten, knock on wood, I don't think I've ever gotten a speed ticket.
• 1:11:50
  I got a weird parking violation ticket one time, not even parking.
• 1:11:54
  It was apparently I drove down a street that it was in the two hour window of
• 1:11:59
  which you should not have been driving down the street, and I literally went
• 1:12:02
  like three cars deep on this street.
• 1:12:05
  U turned because I realized it wasn't even the street I needed to be on.
• 1:12:08
  U turned left and then six months later got this ticket about how
• 1:12:11
  like I was on an uh, unauthorized.
• 1:12:13
  Street or something.
• 1:12:14
  I'm like, whatever.
• 1:12:15
  How do you pay that?
• 1:12:16
  Hey man, it's modern times.
• 1:12:18
  Just go online and pay it.
• 1:12:20
  They hunt you down.
• 1:12:21
  Don't, you should see yours about December.
• 1:12:25
  That'll be my Christmas gift from Enterprise.
• 1:12:27
  Yeah.
• 1:12:28
  Basically they'll Merry Christmas, they'll send it to them and
• 1:12:30
  then they'll forward it along.
• 1:12:32
  I mean, hopefully not, they're really hard because the speed limits
• 1:12:36
  tend to fluctuate like a a lot.
• 1:12:39
  Wildly, wildly.
• 1:12:40
  Like suddenly you're like, oh, well first of all, you don't
• 1:12:43
  know what the speed limit is.
• 1:12:45
  Like I think I drove for half an hour at one point and I was like, I
• 1:12:48
  haven't seen the speed limit sign.
• 1:12:49
  I don't know how.
• 1:12:50
  And I'm like passing under the tutor thing.
• 1:12:52
  I'm like, I don't know how fast I should be going.
• 1:12:54
  But I was feeling rest assured by the quote locals who
• 1:12:58
  aren't slowing down at all.
• 1:13:00
  So I'm like, well, if I'm not going any faster than all these other people
• 1:13:04
  that are blowing by every form of camera, I guess hopefully I'm okay.
• 1:13:09
  Could you really go that fast in your rental car?
• 1:13:11
  I mean, what'd you have?
• 1:13:13
  I had a Citroen C3 Air Cross.
• 1:13:16
  Compact.
• 1:13:17
  SUV.
• 1:13:18
  It was slightly larger than what I was supposed to have gotten.
• 1:13:21
  I should have gotten probably something the size of a golf.
• 1:13:24
  However, when I booked the reservation that I made, you had to set the time
• 1:13:28
  you were picking it up and in the US you set a time and it really doesn't matter.
• 1:13:31
  It's Yeah, like an indication of when they start billing you.
• 1:13:35
  Right.
• 1:13:35
  But apparently in Europe, in Italy, when you show up at the rental counter and it's
• 1:13:39
  1115 and you said you were picking up at noon, they go, we don't have your car yet.
• 1:13:43
  You reserve a car.
• 1:13:45
  Okay, we have a problem.
• 1:13:47
  Your car is not available.
• 1:13:49
  We can do a bicycle.
• 1:13:51
  Okay.
• 1:13:52
  Or a 7 47.
• 1:13:56
  She got French in Italy.
• 1:13:59
  We can upgrade you for 10 extra euros a day if you don't wanna wait.
• 1:14:03
  And I'm like, okay, I've already been up.
• 1:14:06
  I left America, I didn't sleep on the plane.
• 1:14:09
  I really wanna stand here for 45 minutes.
• 1:14:11
  I can offer a discount.
• 1:14:13
  It is a special discount because it is a discount of.
• 1:14:17
  Uh, more money you need to pay.
• 1:14:20
  Screw it.
• 1:14:20
  I'll pay 10 extra dollars.
• 1:14:22
  So I don't know what I should have gotten or what I would've gotten, but this is,
• 1:14:25
  I got this Citroen compact SUV thing.
• 1:14:28
  It's okay because I landed at the same airport as you
• 1:14:33
  and they didn't have any golfs anywhere, so we got the upgrade as well.
• 1:14:38
  So I ended up with a Nissan Qua.
• 1:14:41
  Oh geez.
• 1:14:42
  Yeah.
• 1:14:42
  Oh.
• 1:14:43
  How you pronounce that.
• 1:14:44
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:45
  Qua don't know why they call it that in America.
• 1:14:47
  That would be the equivalent to the rogue, more or less.
• 1:14:50
  It's in that size range.
• 1:14:52
  It's a Renault like anything else.
• 1:14:54
  How many horsepowers did you have, Tanya?
• 1:14:55
  I think it only had like a hundred or something, I think.
• 1:14:59
  I think.
• 1:14:59
  I think that's what I saw when I looked it up.
• 1:15:01
  It wasn't a lot.
• 1:15:02
  I had 158.
• 1:15:04
  Yeah.
• 1:15:04
  Woo.
• 1:15:05
  Race car.
• 1:15:06
  Chasing her in the mountains was like, no problem.
• 1:15:08
  And Jess was like, you need to back off.
• 1:15:10
  'cause I think she's got it floored.
• 1:15:14
  So driving in Italy to Tanya's point, it's not like the old days.
• 1:15:17
  That's what I noticed.
• 1:15:18
  They do drive slower.
• 1:15:20
  Although they were making fun when I was talking to some of the locals,
• 1:15:22
  like you were talking to some of the locals, they were like, don't
• 1:15:24
  you guys drive fast in America?
• 1:15:26
  I'm like, no.
• 1:15:27
  National speed limit is 65 miles an hour.
• 1:15:29
  Which is like what, one 10?
• 1:15:30
  They're all doing 80 on the highway.
• 1:15:33
  Yeah.
• 1:15:33
  The speed limit there is basically 80 on the The large highway.
• 1:15:36
  Yeah.
• 1:15:37
  Kilometers or miles per hour.
• 1:15:38
  There's 130 kilometers an hour, which is more or less 80 miles an hour.
• 1:15:42
  Yeah.
• 1:15:42
  Which our speed limit is 65 miles an hour and everybody's doing 90.
• 1:15:46
  So we do drive fast.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah.
• 1:15:48
  Yeah.
• 1:15:49
  They don't drive as aggressive as they used to.
• 1:15:51
  That's for sure.
• 1:15:52
  The one thing I did notice is France.
• 1:15:55
  Didn't have nearly as many trucks as Italy did.
• 1:15:59
  The right lane in Italy is truck after truck, after semi after semi.
• 1:16:04
  And they're all limited to like they can do 65 miles an hour, like tops 55 miles.
• 1:16:09
  I mean, they're really slow so they stay in the right lane.
• 1:16:11
  But the problem is usually on the raa it's three lanes, sometimes
• 1:16:15
  four, but it's three lanes.
• 1:16:16
  Generally they'll get over.
• 1:16:18
  And then you got this slow mule train of semis trying to pass
• 1:16:23
  another slow mule train of semis.
• 1:16:26
  And so now you're down to the left lane and then everybody tries to shift over.
• 1:16:30
  And then you got some 87-year-old guy in a Fiat 600 that can't get out of its
• 1:16:36
  own way and he's just parked in the left lane and it's like, what are we doing?
• 1:16:41
  I did flash my lights at some people, it worked at the left lane and it worked.
• 1:16:45
  They moved over, dude, I came up on somebody 'cause I was trying to clear
• 1:16:48
  some traffic and we were booking, so I flashed the lights at this dude in a
• 1:16:51
  Mercedes suddenly just boom outta the way.
• 1:16:53
  Goodbye parted this red sea.
• 1:16:55
  And I was through and I backed off and then I got over 'cause I was like, I felt
• 1:16:59
  bad 'cause I was holding somebody up.
• 1:17:01
  I saw like a Porsche coming and I'm like, I gotta get here.
• 1:17:03
  I gotta get outta the way.
• 1:17:04
  I'm already in the left lane so I gotta dump it and go.
• 1:17:07
  But yeah, it was like flashlights.
• 1:17:09
  That still works.
• 1:17:09
  I was happy about that.
• 1:17:10
  Maybe they drive a little bit slower now, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:17:13
  But they still respect, maybe there's a lot of tractor trailers on the road.
• 1:17:17
  I don't know.
• 1:17:17
  I didn't think it was any more than I've seen before.
• 1:17:20
  But they still respect the rules of the road for the most part.
• 1:17:23
  Yeah.
• 1:17:24
  You get this ass wipe that I'm like, am I in America right now?
• 1:17:26
  Like why are you in the left lane?
• 1:17:28
  But they will get over on the above average scale.
• 1:17:32
  Everybody gets over, they get out of the way.
• 1:17:34
  They don't just sit there doing stupid stuff in the left lane,
• 1:17:38
  but they don't know how to merge.
• 1:17:39
  I realized they don't know how to merge.
• 1:17:42
  Every traffic jam we ended up in was because they were closing a lane.
• 1:17:45
  It was like, you guys have forgotten the zipper.
• 1:17:48
  Like that used to be the thing.
• 1:17:49
  I didn't have any of those experiences.
• 1:17:51
  We did, and it was horrendous.
• 1:17:53
  Every time there was a traffic backup, what I experienced, which
• 1:17:56
  I could not understand 'cause we did hit traffic at one point.
• 1:18:00
  It was the most bizarre thing.
• 1:18:02
  I couldn't understand.
• 1:18:03
  There were no ramps and we were dead.
• 1:18:05
  Stop not moving.
• 1:18:06
  And I'm like, oh, this is gonna be fun.
• 1:18:08
  We're gonna be here for a while.
• 1:18:09
  Not moving, not moving, not moving.
• 1:18:11
  And then we'd move a little bit, not moving, not moving.
• 1:18:14
  Move a little bit and then suddenly you're doing 80 again.
• 1:18:16
  It was like a green light and all of a sudden we were moving and we were
• 1:18:20
  flowing, and then we'd stop again.
• 1:18:21
  But then like five minutes later, suddenly we stopped again.
• 1:18:24
  And I'm like, but there was no ramp, there was no shoulder.
• 1:18:27
  Why were we stopped?
• 1:18:28
  I couldn't understand it.
• 1:18:29
  Yeah.
• 1:18:30
  We had that problem too, this weird flow that I've never seen before.
• 1:18:33
  Despite the fact that the GPS that I was used in France got us lost a whole bunch
• 1:18:38
  for whatever reason in Italy, it was actually a godsend because it would tell
• 1:18:42
  me what the speed limit was, despite the fact that it was rapidly changing and it
• 1:18:47
  identified where the speed cameras were.
• 1:18:48
  Yeah.
• 1:18:49
  And on which side of the road it was on.
• 1:18:51
  So that was awesome.
• 1:18:51
  So that's why I jokingly, I probably got away with quite a bit because
• 1:18:56
  the GPS told us where everything was.
• 1:18:58
  So that was pretty awesome.
• 1:18:59
  So where it failed me in France.
• 1:19:01
  It worked out really, really well in Italy.
• 1:19:03
  So no problems there.
• 1:19:04
  The other thing I noticed about Italy, despite all the big trucks on
• 1:19:07
  the road, is the amount of trucks.
• 1:19:09
  I put air quotes rather, that people are driving now in Italy, there
• 1:19:12
  are more SUVs per capita in Italy than there's ever been before.
• 1:19:15
  Like, I mean, granted I'm in an SUV myself.
• 1:19:17
  I mean, that is not a fact check number.
• 1:19:20
  I'm telling you.
• 1:19:21
  It was like nine out of 10 were SUVs.
• 1:19:23
  There's always the Fiat 500 and the golf and all the little cars.
• 1:19:27
  But it was like I was constantly surrounded by, if it wasn't the
• 1:19:30
  Nissan, it was a EO or it was uh, you know, the Mercedes SU BMWs,
• 1:19:35
  I felt like I was in America.
• 1:19:37
  I was like, your roads and your towns weren't built for these size vehicles.
• 1:19:41
  Like when did you supersize, when did you get the Big Mac,
• 1:19:45
  you know, of cars in Italy.
• 1:19:46
  It just doesn't make sense.
• 1:19:47
  Well, did they force it down their throats with cross platform, you know,
• 1:19:51
  uh, manufacturing, all that stuff.
• 1:19:53
  You have to buy these now.
• 1:19:54
  Well, they might've, because you know, the other thing is.
• 1:19:57
  There's not a lot of old cars on the road.
• 1:19:59
  There's always the guy with the fiat multiple.
• 1:20:02
  There's always somebody with the Chiquito, you know, from the
• 1:20:05
  nineties or something like that.
• 1:20:06
  But they're fewer and far between because I think the way I understand it is
• 1:20:10
  Italy heavily taxes, keeping old cars.
• 1:20:13
  And so people are constantly sort of getting new stuff.
• 1:20:16
  If you looked around, it was all within the last five years, it was all really,
• 1:20:20
  really new cars, the way they drive.
• 1:20:22
  So transmission mechanics must make a lot of money.
• 1:20:26
  Right.
• 1:20:26
  Especially the older people when you see them a little bit sometimes,
• 1:20:30
  and it's just like, Ooh, my thought was in France, body shop, my
• 1:20:33
  heart hurts for this transmission.
• 1:20:35
  The clutch is alone, right?
• 1:20:37
  I mean, you're just like, man, ugh.
• 1:20:39
  You can't find it.
• 1:20:40
  Grind it.
• 1:20:40
  But you bring up a really valid point 'cause William and I noted that in
• 1:20:43
  France it was like nine out of every 10 cars, maybe eight out of every
• 1:20:47
  10 cars was still a stick shift, unless it was super new or a hybrid
• 1:20:50
  where they don't come with manuals.
• 1:20:52
  But Italy the same.
• 1:20:53
  There was a surprising number of cars you're like, I didn't know
• 1:20:56
  that was offered in a manual.
• 1:20:57
  Like those Jeeps that we saw, like all of them were stick shift like
• 1:21:01
  the Cherokee and not in gear when parked always with the hand brakes.
• 1:21:04
  That was weird about France.
• 1:21:06
  Like they don't leave them in gear.
• 1:21:07
  None of them.
• 1:21:08
  No.
• 1:21:08
  That's even a thing.
• 1:21:09
  I think that's sort of a universal thing they recommend not doing.
• 1:21:13
  Why?
• 1:21:13
  I mean, I've heard that even here, you should never leave your car in gear.
• 1:21:16
  It's bad.
• 1:21:17
  Yeah.
• 1:21:17
  It's easier to steal it if it's not in gear.
• 1:21:19
  Yeah, I totally, but yeah, I don't know.
• 1:21:21
  Like I've never had a transmission promise as a result of leaving it parked in gear.
• 1:21:24
  So I don't know what bad thing I've been doing.
• 1:21:27
  Yeah.
• 1:21:27
  I trust leaving my transmission in gear, then relying on my
• 1:21:31
  handbrake to hold the car.
• 1:21:32
  You know what I mean?
• 1:21:32
  Seeing some of these hand brakes on cars, that's not the most beefiest brake.
• 1:21:37
  And I accidentally the other day went to pull my handbrake and weld the cables.
• 1:21:41
  Came off again.
• 1:21:41
  So that's, guess I'm leaving it in gear
• 1:21:47
  to William's Point about France and seeing some cool cars.
• 1:21:50
  Well, what I didn't see a lot of, which I was surprised, I
• 1:21:54
  hardly saw any alphas in Italy.
• 1:21:56
  Yes.
• 1:21:57
  Yes.
• 1:21:57
  And normally there's tons.
• 1:21:59
  I think I saw two, there were not many.
• 1:22:01
  There were some Stelvio's every now and again.
• 1:22:03
  But that was pretty much it, the what we saw.
• 1:22:05
  But to your point, William was saying earlier, cool cars that we
• 1:22:08
  saw on the roads, there's a lot of stuff that isn't cool that you've
• 1:22:11
  seen in pictures and magazines.
• 1:22:12
  You're like, yeah.
• 1:22:13
  But I will say there's still a lot of VWs in Italy, which is
• 1:22:16
  totally cool and totally fine.
• 1:22:18
  But you know, we talked a lot on previous drive-throughs about like the ID two,
• 1:22:22
  the ID three, and you know, oh, that'd be kind of cool if they brought it here.
• 1:22:25
  Now that I've seen them in person, you can keep all of 'em.
• 1:22:28
  They look horrendous.
• 1:22:29
  They actually photograph better than they look in person, which is odd
• 1:22:32
  because usually cars don't photograph as well as they look in person.
• 1:22:36
  But these new VWs are just, ugh, I don't like 'em.
• 1:22:39
  They're getting out there in regards to styling and how, what they're doing.
• 1:22:42
  And it's almost like they don't do any type of focus group or let's do
• 1:22:46
  something or let's just go out into the public and talk to people in general.
• 1:22:49
  Get a consensus or get a little feedback.
• 1:22:51
  But it sounds like, nope, this is what we're doing.
• 1:22:53
  So I will say there was an ID buzz on the highway that's massive
• 1:22:58
  next to the things it was next to.
• 1:23:00
  At that time it did not look massive.
• 1:23:02
  Um, 'cause to your point, it was surrounded by a bunch of tractor trailers,
• 1:23:06
  but it was like a worker van of some sort.
• 1:23:08
  So it was white, but they had paneled out the back glass and the side glass.
• 1:23:14
  You only had glass at the front doors.
• 1:23:16
  It looked really cool actually.
• 1:23:18
  It didn't seem like it was like, see-through that, it was just like white,
• 1:23:21
  but the driver maybe could still see out.
• 1:23:23
  It seemed more like how sometimes we have those worker vans where
• 1:23:26
  they've closed off all the windows.
• 1:23:28
  It was like all white.
• 1:23:29
  The taillights were like blacked out and all this stuff, so maybe it wasn't a
• 1:23:32
  worker van, but um, it looked really good.
• 1:23:34
  That trim.
• 1:23:35
  See the car.
• 1:23:36
  I like the car I would take home, the car I would buy if I was in
• 1:23:39
  Italy was the Fiat Tepo wagon.
• 1:23:42
  I actually really liked that.
• 1:23:43
  It was reminiscent of older VWs.
• 1:23:46
  It had a very German look to it.
• 1:23:47
  At first I was like, what is that?
• 1:23:49
  And then I was like, that's a fiat no way.
• 1:23:51
  I really liked the look of that.
• 1:23:52
  I just saw the sedan version, but I think the wagon, something about
• 1:23:55
  the long roof, it just looks better.
• 1:23:57
  So that was my pick.
• 1:23:58
  You know, nothing to write home about in the performance department, but if you're
• 1:24:01
  looking for a family wagon with a manual transmission, like yeah, that's not bad.
• 1:24:05
  Looking at all outside of that, my number one pick for Italy was the Alpha 1 47
• 1:24:09
  GTA that we saw at Lamont's Classic.
• 1:24:11
  So that thing was awesome.
• 1:24:12
  Yeah, that day was nice.
• 1:24:14
  Let's talk a little bit more about our rental cars and driving in the mountains.
• 1:24:18
  How was that with your alleged a hundred horsepower and my
• 1:24:21
  legendary three spoke steering wheel, three spoke steering wheel.
• 1:24:26
  So where I was staying, I had a 20 minute ride up the mountain to get to where I
• 1:24:31
  was in a 20 minute ride down the mountain.
• 1:24:33
  She says ride, she means rally stage.
• 1:24:35
  Yes.
• 1:24:35
  I mean, it's hairpins and lefts and turns and all that.
• 1:24:38
  Is this the roads you were explaining to me, Eric, when you're talking about when
• 1:24:41
  you were younger going there and Yes.
• 1:24:43
  Yes.
• 1:24:44
  Following the car Uhhuh?
• 1:24:45
  Yes.
• 1:24:45
  Yes.
• 1:24:46
  Okay.
• 1:24:46
  It hasn't changed.
• 1:24:47
  It's more paved now than it used to be.
• 1:24:49
  That's the only difference.
• 1:24:51
  Except for the spots.
• 1:24:51
  It's not.
• 1:24:52
  Well, it's like Pikes Peak used to be gravel.
• 1:24:53
  I was pavement, so I I going up the mountain, I had to do a lot of shifting.
• 1:24:59
  You don't say a lot downshifting constantly.
• 1:25:01
  I'd say downshift.
• 1:25:02
  Yeah.
• 1:25:02
  Only one direction down.
• 1:25:04
  It won't go any lower,
• 1:25:07
  but you know, like honestly, the car wasn't anything, you know what,
• 1:25:11
  it got me where I needed to go.
• 1:25:13
  It took the bumps, it took everything like a champ.
• 1:25:18
  You were rowing the boat.
• 1:25:19
  If you needed to get around somebody, you had to plan it.
• 1:25:22
  Be strategic.
• 1:25:23
  You're constantly down shifting to, to get the curves and go
• 1:25:27
  up the hills on the mountain.
• 1:25:29
  You were riding with your mom, right?
• 1:25:31
  Uhhuh and a lot of this.
• 1:25:32
  How was she as a passenger?
• 1:25:34
  Did she critique?
• 1:25:35
  Is she quiet?
• 1:25:35
  She didn't say anything.
• 1:25:36
  The only time she got nervous was there are, so we, we ended up
• 1:25:42
  crossing through the mountains.
• 1:25:43
  We took sort of a back way to go visit some family.
• 1:25:47
  There were certain parts that got extremely tight, like I can only fit,
• 1:25:51
  I hope nobody's coming and there's a hairpin turn and I can't see and
• 1:25:55
  we're gonna have a head on collision.
• 1:25:56
  Then she was getting nervous, but otherwise she didn't really say much as
• 1:26:00
  long as there was kind of room for two.
• 1:26:02
  Let's fast forward to us going lead follow down the mountain, us behind Tanya and
• 1:26:08
  what was my wife saying the whole time?
• 1:26:09
  So I don't know if you realized, because again we came back through
• 1:26:13
  on part of a section where there was a lot of more turns that were tended
• 1:26:18
  to be blind and some corners that got narrow and like cliffs on one side.
• 1:26:21
  So, and I was in the front and I don't know if you noticed, I wasn't
• 1:26:24
  just driving like an ass, but as soon as I could see nobody was coming,
• 1:26:28
  I would cut onto the other side.
• 1:26:30
  Yes.
• 1:26:31
  Be like signaling, you can take the turn however you want.
• 1:26:34
  Nobody's coming.
• 1:26:35
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:35
  I've taken the opposite side of the road.
• 1:26:38
  No, no, no.
• 1:26:38
  I picked up that, that, so I want, I wanted to ask you because
• 1:26:41
  we didn't talk about it then figuring we talk about it now.
• 1:26:45
  I don't think we were driving overly aggressive whether we were coming
• 1:26:48
  down from the castle or we were going up, whatever we were doing.
• 1:26:51
  I don't think we were really pushing the cars because I think both of us
• 1:26:54
  agreed that they were giant pieces of crap and they weren't going to give
• 1:26:57
  us very much, even if we wanted it.
• 1:26:59
  I would like to think we were pretty well behaved.
• 1:27:02
  Other people might have.
• 1:27:04
  So I, so going up the mountain.
• 1:27:09
  I had people that would pull over and let me go right there.
• 1:27:12
  So it's obvious.
• 1:27:13
  They can tell that's, oh, that's an American.
• 1:27:14
  They're like, that's Tio right there.
• 1:27:16
  Just, they gotta tell that I was going to go at a little bit faster clip,
• 1:27:21
  like they were going, some people were going like, painfully slow.
• 1:27:24
  I'm like, dude.
• 1:27:25
  Seriously.
• 1:27:26
  I know I'm a gutless wonder, but we can go faster than this.
• 1:27:29
  According to Eric, he says that everyone has to stop at every house.
• 1:27:32
  Someone's car's in the driveways, they gotta stop and chat.
• 1:27:34
  Hundred percent.
• 1:27:35
  We got stuck behind a tractor.
• 1:27:37
  I was making a joke.
• 1:27:38
  I said, somewhere up here, we're gonna get stuck behind a
• 1:27:40
  tractor whip around the corner.
• 1:27:41
  Boom, tractor got stuck by him.
• 1:27:43
  I got stuck twice behind the final destination Tractors.
• 1:27:48
  Ah.
• 1:27:49
  Or trailers with like these wood piles.
• 1:27:51
  And it wasn't like final destination with the big long beams.
• 1:27:54
  No, this was, they had chopped it up in the nice little pieces and then
• 1:27:57
  somehow, as we had plenty of time to watch this and I'm sitting and going,
• 1:28:01
  my God, don't let a piece come off bounce and come through the windshield
• 1:28:04
  because I don't wanna pay for this.
• 1:28:05
  They had somehow strategically stacked all these in this beautiful stack that
• 1:28:10
  like mounded, like a pyramid up out of the back of the, of the tractor
• 1:28:14
  trailer, nothing securing anything down.
• 1:28:16
  I'm like, how the hell are these pieces of wood?
• 1:28:18
  Just, they weren't tied down.
• 1:28:20
  No gravity.
• 1:28:20
  Gravity holding.
• 1:28:21
  No, they were just sitting there magically not, and I was,
• 1:28:25
  and I was like hyperfocused.
• 1:28:27
  I was just staring at the wood waiting for one to wobble.
• 1:28:29
  You were on a hill too.
• 1:28:30
  I was far back and not a single one move.
• 1:28:34
  I was like, okay.
• 1:28:35
  The tree sap was holding them together.
• 1:28:37
  That's what was going on there.
• 1:28:38
  Back to your passengers.
• 1:28:39
  Okay, so I gotta put this in reference.
• 1:28:41
  We've talked about this before.
• 1:28:42
  The roads over there are narrow, you know, you talk about mountain roads in the us
• 1:28:47
  you're gonna drive up into the Rockies or the Appalachians or something like that.
• 1:28:51
  It's a two lane road.
• 1:28:52
  Like you drive tail of the dragon.
• 1:28:53
  It's a two lane road.
• 1:28:54
  Yeah.
• 1:28:54
  You go to Italy, you cut that in half, and then in some places you cut it.
• 1:28:58
  And half again.
• 1:29:00
  So you're driving on a one lane road basically at one point, I'm following you.
• 1:29:04
  I think it was when we were going down the mountain to go to that pizza place
• 1:29:07
  or whatever, which by the way, my kids got totally sick of pasta pizza pane,
• 1:29:11
  which is bread and prosciutto by the end of it, they don't wanna, they don't
• 1:29:13
  wanna hear, eat, or see any of it.
• 1:29:14
  At this point.
• 1:29:16
  It's gonna be a while, but, so anyway, we go to this pizzeria and I'm following
• 1:29:19
  Tanya down and I'm doing everything I can to like not be on top of her.
• 1:29:25
  As you probably noticed.
• 1:29:26
  I'm literally riding the brakes and my wife's like, why
• 1:29:28
  are you being so aggressive?
• 1:29:29
  And I'm like, I'm not.
• 1:29:31
  I was just going.
• 1:29:32
  Normal for my car.
• 1:29:34
  Literally the weight of this behemoth is pulling it down the mountain.
• 1:29:37
  Like I'm just doing everything I can to just maintain any sort of distance.
• 1:29:42
  And I wasn't going.
• 1:29:43
  I had gone down faster on other trips with just me and mom
• 1:29:48
  and not anything super fast.
• 1:29:50
  But I definitely driven faster than that.
• 1:29:52
  But here's the deal, you got a big heavy car with teeny little breaks.
• 1:29:55
  Yeah.
• 1:29:56
  Coming down a mountain, you know what you're gonna do If you ride 'em
• 1:29:58
  all the way down, you're not gonna have any by the time you're done.
• 1:30:01
  So you gotta play this game of, I gotta take this corner, I gotta scrub
• 1:30:05
  off some speed, I gotta let it kind of just do its thing or, or whatever.
• 1:30:08
  And the roads are not smooth.
• 1:30:10
  They're not bumpy, but they're literally like if there was a boulder, they paved
• 1:30:14
  over the boulder and now that is, it's like a, a mogul when you're skiing, right?
• 1:30:18
  So it's just part of the landscape of the road.
• 1:30:20
  So the whole car is like jostling as you're coming down.
• 1:30:22
  And it's like being in Baja, right?
• 1:30:24
  My girls are used to taking off ramp, whatever it is, you
• 1:30:28
  know, they don't really care.
• 1:30:29
  But 200 turns later down the mountain, 'cause that's what it ends up being,
• 1:30:33
  they're turning green in the back.
• 1:30:35
  And even my wife is like, Jesus, is this roller coaster ever going to end?
• 1:30:39
  Because you know, it's been a long time and we'd only gone up and down that
• 1:30:41
  road one time 10 years ago, her and I.
• 1:30:44
  So she's forgotten what it's like.
• 1:30:46
  And I'm like, for me, I'm like, oh.
• 1:30:47
  Paradise, right?
• 1:30:48
  This is autocross, there's heaven.
• 1:30:49
  But it was just everything I could do to keep people from getting
• 1:30:52
  the barf bags out in the car.
• 1:30:54
  But again, I didn't think we were driving that hard, you know?
• 1:30:58
  Anyway, the Nissan, that one stretch of highway that we did, or that
• 1:31:02
  section there, that's from like Bartos back to the mountains or whatever.
• 1:31:05
  I got around that one guy.
• 1:31:06
  I lost you.
• 1:31:07
  It was like, I could tell we both pulled out and I had the torque.
• 1:31:10
  I was gone.
• 1:31:10
  It was, yeah, I was unprepared to make a pass.
• 1:31:15
  I was like, oh, I got double the horsepower.
• 1:31:17
  I'll see you later.
• 1:31:18
  That being said, somewhere along the trip though, in our quash qua
• 1:31:22
  legendary Nissan product related to the R 32, in some way or another, we
• 1:31:27
  picked up a rock on the windshield.
• 1:31:29
  Oh, oh, yeah.
• 1:31:30
  And it continued to grow.
• 1:31:32
  It continued to get worse.
• 1:31:33
  I mean, we broke the windshield.
• 1:31:34
  I mean, it wasn't my fault.
• 1:31:35
  It came from something.
• 1:31:37
  So during the trip, the midway point, we were somewhere in Sienna.
• 1:31:40
  My wife finds.
• 1:31:42
  Loctite super glue.
• 1:31:43
  So we glued the windshield to try to keep it from cracking.
• 1:31:46
  And the only time it did it it, you remember when we were all there
• 1:31:49
  together, Tanya, I told you the windshield was busted or whatever.
• 1:31:51
  So it stopped.
• 1:31:52
  The only other time it expanded was when the car sat in direct sun
• 1:31:57
  and then suddenly like it just kept cracking and then we would glue
• 1:31:59
  it some more and it would stop and we'd try to park it in the shade.
• 1:32:02
  But even going down the mountain, all that stuff, I was figuring, man, it's
• 1:32:05
  gonna twist because this thing is a flexible flyer and it's just gonna break
• 1:32:09
  the windshield the rest of the way.
• 1:32:10
  But it didn't do anything.
• 1:32:11
  I mean the super glue held up I guess.
• 1:32:13
  So we'll see if Enterprise sends me a bill.
• 1:32:14
  I did buy the insurance, so I think we're okay man.
• 1:32:17
  I was so went, we drove down to CNA and for me that was
• 1:32:21
  a three hour one way drive.
• 1:32:24
  It was 30 minutes.
• 1:32:26
  So this is like the midpoint of the trip almost for me, I guess.
• 1:32:29
  So I've already had the car for five days or something, 30 minutes
• 1:32:33
  from arriving at the destination.
• 1:32:34
  I notice all the sudden like there's a little light on in
• 1:32:37
  the dashboard and it's this.
• 1:32:38
  Orange wrench, symbol.
• 1:32:40
  And I was like, I don't know the F. That means that can't be good.
• 1:32:44
  I'm like, well, I'm not gonna say anything.
• 1:32:46
  Just gonna keep going.
• 1:32:48
  Just gonna keep going.
• 1:32:50
  Well, all this talk now going on in regards about rental cars.
• 1:32:53
  You're saying about getting a bill, is it Hertz?
• 1:32:56
  They're installing those AI scanners now.
• 1:32:59
  That's who I rented with.
• 1:33:00
  Yeah.
• 1:33:01
  People are getting clipped big time.
• 1:33:02
  They're creating a lot of headaches.
• 1:33:04
  Speaking of that, 'cause I did rent with Hertz and my orange.
• 1:33:07
  I looked it up on the wonderful interweb, so the orange wrench symbol, which I was
• 1:33:10
  hoping can't be the check engine light.
• 1:33:12
  This must be like a service symbol and, and according to the
• 1:33:15
  internets, that's what it was.
• 1:33:17
  I guess it was due for an oil change and they didn't say anything to me,
• 1:33:20
  anything to me when I returned it.
• 1:33:21
  You exceeded the maximum number of shifts in a particular period.
• 1:33:26
  Transmission fluid needs flushing.
• 1:33:29
  No, so when I picked it up from the rental, I did the walk around and
• 1:33:32
  all that stuff and then did little bullshit piece of paper they gave
• 1:33:36
  me with some chicken scratch on it.
• 1:33:37
  Like I couldn't tell.
• 1:33:38
  The car actually had like a big scrape on the front bumper and then it had
• 1:33:41
  a couple other nicks here and there.
• 1:33:43
  And I'm like, well I couldn't tell that they had it marked, it
• 1:33:46
  took me like 45 minutes to get the freaking car out of the parking lot
• 1:33:50
  and get all the, anyway, whatever.
• 1:33:51
  To your point, it's not quite the AI that does it to themselves, but, and
• 1:33:55
  they're like, oh, well we emailed you all the pictures of the car.
• 1:33:57
  I'm like, oh shit.
• 1:33:58
  Did you, okay, lemme look at that.
• 1:34:00
  So they have the little scanner thing and they go and it goes and it's
• 1:34:04
  like this little price checker thing and they take like a photo of it.
• 1:34:07
  And so then they upload all the photos and then they mark it on the
• 1:34:09
  paper and then they give it to you when you pick up the car or whatever.
• 1:34:12
  So you have that record.
• 1:34:13
  If you found something else, they could add it to that.
• 1:34:16
  So they give you all the photo documentation.
• 1:34:18
  Oh, that's from the start.
• 1:34:19
  And then when I returned it, I purposely, I, I was like, I'm returning the
• 1:34:23
  car and you know, the light came on the wrench symbol, I think it's the
• 1:34:26
  maintenance for the oil or whatever.
• 1:34:28
  And he is like, okay, that's fine.
• 1:34:29
  He's like, do you want me to email the receipt?
• 1:34:31
  I was like, do you wanna check the card?
• 1:34:32
  I, I can, do you wanna wait?
• 1:34:34
  I'm like, yeah, I'll wait.
• 1:34:35
  So then he got his little scanner around and he starts walking around it.
• 1:34:40
  And I made a big deal before I left because based on the scratches
• 1:34:44
  they had indicated on the car.
• 1:34:46
  They were like little things.
• 1:34:47
  I was like, well, here's a little scratch and you didn't write it down.
• 1:34:50
  And I like made the guy come out and I was like, well, there's this and this.
• 1:34:52
  And he's like, well, these are too small.
• 1:34:54
  We're not gonna count 'em.
• 1:34:55
  It's fine.
• 1:34:55
  So he didn't record 'em.
• 1:34:57
  I'm like, okay.
• 1:34:58
  So then when I returned it, same guy sitting there walking around
• 1:35:00
  the car and he's like, oh geez.
• 1:35:03
  Literally doing stuff on something.
• 1:35:05
  I'm like, there's nothing there.
• 1:35:06
  What?
• 1:35:06
  There's like dirt on the car.
• 1:35:08
  I'm like sitting here going, man, are you gonna find these same
• 1:35:11
  scratches I pointed out to you before that you didn't record down.
• 1:35:14
  He's got a little scanner thing.
• 1:35:15
  Do you know how many times he's charged people for the
• 1:35:17
  scratches on that citra one?
• 1:35:18
  That's the racket of all the car rental agencies, but the bigger
• 1:35:22
  racket outside of the us I think so.
• 1:35:25
  At the end of the day, they marked it all off.
• 1:35:27
  It was all good.
• 1:35:27
  Nothing was wrong with it.
• 1:35:28
  I'd returned it completely full, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:35:30
  Everything was fine.
• 1:35:31
  So paid the bill, got the receipt.
• 1:35:33
  Hopefully you shouldn't receive any notification from them.
• 1:35:36
  That is the most frustrating thing outside of the United States to rent a car
• 1:35:40
  because they don't hold us strapped like they do in Europe, in the United States.
• 1:35:46
  It's very clear.
• 1:35:47
  They're like, oh, if it's smaller than a quarter, we don't care.
• 1:35:49
  Don't about it.
• 1:35:50
  No big deal.
• 1:35:50
  Don't worry.
• 1:35:51
  But it's much more loose.
• 1:35:52
  But over there it's like, oh, there's like an eyelash length scratch there.
• 1:35:56
  I'm gonna bark you down and charge you $200, but I'm not gonna fix it.
• 1:35:59
  So I'm just collecting money to your point, like every time there's
• 1:36:01
  a new thing, I've heard horror stories about that and at least
• 1:36:04
  you got some customer service.
• 1:36:06
  'cause we run it through enterprise.
• 1:36:07
  So I took the quash quoi back with its broken windshield and we show up it.
• 1:36:11
  It was a whole thing to figure out where to take the car.
• 1:36:14
  'cause we picked it up in one terminal.
• 1:36:15
  We were supposed to drop it off another terminal, no big deal.
• 1:36:17
  So we do that whole thing and then we get there and the guy had
• 1:36:19
  warned us when we picked it up.
• 1:36:20
  The guys that were there when we picked up the car were super nice,
• 1:36:24
  very just accommodating, whatever.
• 1:36:25
  And as we know, you know, customer service isn't usually the priority
• 1:36:29
  in, in Europe as William and I discovered even in France.
• 1:36:31
  So we get back in the morning, we drop the car off.
• 1:36:35
  10 minutes before Enterprise is supposed to be open.
• 1:36:37
  And the guy had told us, look, if there's nobody there, put the keys
• 1:36:40
  in the Dropbox and go about your business and don't worry about it.
• 1:36:42
  I said, okay, cool.
• 1:36:43
  I'm looking around where the hell's the Dropbox?
• 1:36:46
  'cause in America the Dropbox is at the little toll booth thing where the
• 1:36:49
  people usually sit with their scanners, like Tanya's talking about you put
• 1:36:52
  the keys in the box and you drag your luggage and you go about your merry way.
• 1:36:55
  Instead, we had to wander all around terminal to uh, Mel Paya to go figure
• 1:37:01
  out where the hell enterprise was.
• 1:37:03
  And it was like way out of our way and we're like, we gotta go catch this
• 1:37:06
  flight, but I gotta return the keys.
• 1:37:08
  I could have possibly waited in the garage for the guy that was gonna show
• 1:37:11
  up at nine o'clock in the morning.
• 1:37:12
  'cause just 'cause they say they're open at seven doesn't
• 1:37:14
  mean they're actually open.
• 1:37:15
  So I finally get there.
• 1:37:16
  There is a woman at the enterprise counter and I walk up and she
• 1:37:19
  goes, we're not open, we are open.
• 1:37:20
  11 2, 11 10. God bless it.
• 1:37:23
  It's like two minutes before you open.
• 1:37:25
  What time was that?
• 1:37:25
  This is like, I don't know, seven in the morning or something like, okay.
• 1:37:28
  Or eight in the morning or whatever it was.
• 1:37:30
  And I'm like, I'm getting flashbacks of like the post office and the DMV.
• 1:37:33
  Like it immediately my blood pressure is starting to build, right?
• 1:37:36
  And I'm holding up the keys and I'm like, I need to return the keys.
• 1:37:40
  And she's like, oh.
• 1:37:41
  And I'm like, hand her the keys.
• 1:37:42
  And then she kinda looks at me like a deer in the headlights.
• 1:37:45
  And I said, I also want to report damage to the vehicle.
• 1:37:48
  If you have a problem, you can telephone four zero seven.
• 1:37:54
  Go.
• 1:37:55
  Ah, fun.
• 1:37:56
  Cool.
• 1:37:57
  You want to speak to the manager?
• 1:37:58
  Okay.
• 1:37:59
  No, you don't understand.
• 1:38:00
  I bought the insurance.
• 1:38:01
  I'm letting you know the windshield is broken.
• 1:38:03
  It got hit by a rock.
• 1:38:04
  We have three levels of insurance.
• 1:38:06
  All the three levels they cover nothing.
• 1:38:09
  But I don't have your ticket in front of me, so I don't know
• 1:38:10
  that you bought the insurance.
• 1:38:11
  I, I'm telling you, I bought the insurance.
• 1:38:14
  Why you want the contract?
• 1:38:15
  Okay.
• 1:38:15
  I go get to the contract now, but I wanna let you know that the windshield is broken
• 1:38:20
  so you can put a note in and blah, blah.
• 1:38:23
  And she was just like, if you don't know, it is not my problem.
• 1:38:26
  It's lunch.
• 1:38:26
  Ah, ah.
• 1:38:28
  The whole thing was irritating.
• 1:38:29
  Yeah, you're trying to do the right thing.
• 1:38:31
  Yeah.
• 1:38:31
  By let them know.
• 1:38:32
  So, but then, well I will say the people it hurts.
• 1:38:35
  Were quite nice.
• 1:38:37
  The people in enterprise were great until I returned the car.
• 1:38:40
  I went back into their office like literally three or four times and
• 1:38:44
  every time they were like super.
• 1:38:45
  Okay,
• 1:38:49
  well anyway, the Italy trip isn't all about rental cars.
• 1:38:52
  There was some car stuff in this.
• 1:38:53
  Yeah, you gotta see some really cool stuff for you William.
• 1:38:56
  I went on your behalf.
• 1:38:58
  You visited the Ferrari museum.
• 1:38:59
  Am Ello vicariously through me.
• 1:39:02
  Yes.
• 1:39:02
  I will say if you get a chance to go, go, I would also say go to the other one.
• 1:39:07
  'cause there's two.
• 1:39:08
  Yes.
• 1:39:08
  The other one is more motorsports focused.
• 1:39:10
  The only problem I have with going to the Ferrari Museum of
• 1:39:13
  Ello is it Ello is a hellhole.
• 1:39:14
  There's no parking people everywhere.
• 1:39:17
  There's the Ferrari experience thing where they're driving off to Fiorano, like you
• 1:39:20
  can rent a 2 96 or a F eight or whatever.
• 1:39:23
  Like they all have different cars.
• 1:39:24
  And then you go with a driver and you're driving the car and you go
• 1:39:27
  off to Fiorano and you can go do laps of the track and it's just chaos.
• 1:39:30
  It's Italy in a nutshell, right?
• 1:39:32
  But you drive down there and you think you're driving through Hollywood
• 1:39:36
  where there's just buildings.
• 1:39:37
  It's very industrial, there's a lot of factories.
• 1:39:40
  It's not that nice.
• 1:39:41
  Lots of cool stuff once you get there.
• 1:39:43
  So inside the museum, again, one of the few places that has air
• 1:39:46
  conditioning in Italy, you get in there, you know it's hot outside.
• 1:39:49
  They kind of gate keep you in terms of coming in.
• 1:39:51
  But once you come in, the experience is cool.
• 1:39:53
  I expected slightly more cars than there were.
• 1:39:56
  There are not many.
• 1:39:57
  Yeah, no, but it's kind of cool.
• 1:39:58
  It's like a whole evolution thing, right?
• 1:40:00
  Obviously there's the superstars that are in there.
• 1:40:02
  You've got the 2 88 GTO, you got an F 40, you got a LA Ferrari, everything
• 1:40:06
  you expect to be there, Schumacher's, formula one car, all this kind of stuff.
• 1:40:09
  So it's cheap.
• 1:40:10
  It's worth going.
• 1:40:11
  You can actually buy a pass.
• 1:40:13
  I don't think it matters which of the two museums you go to first,
• 1:40:16
  but you can actually buy a pass that lets you go to both of them.
• 1:40:19
  So you just drive to the other one and then go check out what's over there.
• 1:40:21
  It's one museum split into two locations and then Fiorano ISS right
• 1:40:24
  there, and you can go check out the track and all that kinda stuff.
• 1:40:26
  So I posted a bunch of pictures on your website, kind of did a photo dump of a
• 1:40:30
  lot of the things that were in the museum.
• 1:40:31
  Again, really cool stuff, totally worth seeing.
• 1:40:34
  We did a coast to coast sort of trip.
• 1:40:36
  We drove all the way out to the Adriatic and then we drove all the
• 1:40:38
  way out to the Mediterranean of this whole loop of North central Italy.
• 1:40:42
  So along the way we're kind of strategizing.
• 1:40:44
  My wife was like, oh, we should go to San Marino and check it out,
• 1:40:46
  because it's one of the little provincial kingdoms into itself.
• 1:40:49
  You know, sovereign kingdoms that live inside of Italy, sort
• 1:40:52
  of like the Vatican is its own thing and it's not really Italy.
• 1:40:54
  And I said, oh, San Marino, that's cool.
• 1:40:56
  We should go to Amela.
• 1:40:57
  And she's like, yeah, you wanna go to the track.
• 1:40:58
  Like last time we went to Italy, we drove past Magie and
• 1:41:02
  she was like, we should stop.
• 1:41:03
  But it was like the middle of winter.
• 1:41:04
  There's no reason to stop in Magie.
• 1:41:05
  The track's closed.
• 1:41:06
  It's wintertime like, what are we gonna do?
• 1:41:08
  I'm like, well go to Amala.
• 1:41:09
  Right?
• 1:41:09
  So we go there and secretly with all the work that we've done with the professor
• 1:41:14
  about Sena and yeah, commemorating his death after 30 years, I was
• 1:41:18
  like, this is an opportunity to go.
• 1:41:20
  See the Senate memorial and to go see the track.
• 1:41:22
  So my girls were sort of dragging their heels a little bit, right?
• 1:41:25
  And they're like, oh my God, we're gonna go to a racetrack and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:41:28
  Unlike Mar, which was in the middle of just an industrial park, Mila's sort
• 1:41:34
  of off the beaten path, it's almost like going to an American race track.
• 1:41:37
  You get there and there's a fast food joint and a gas station and a couple
• 1:41:41
  of houses, and there's nobody around.
• 1:41:43
  But they built the track around this town or the town of Imus.
• 1:41:48
  Sits in the, it's really bizarre.
• 1:41:49
  Yeah.
• 1:41:49
  Like the way it's laid out.
• 1:41:51
  But when you get there, you realize sort of like Montreal, the track is open.
• 1:41:55
  You can't get on the track like you can in Montreal, but you can walk
• 1:41:58
  around it, you can go everywhere.
• 1:42:00
  And then once you cross under the tunnel, which goes under like start, finish,
• 1:42:04
  like that area, the track where the grandstands are, you can cut into the
• 1:42:08
  inside and there's all these parks and like sporting complexes and like all
• 1:42:11
  this stuff that belongs to the track.
• 1:42:12
  So there's all these signs that say, you know, Nu Memorial and this
• 1:42:17
  memorial and that memorial and then the SNA one and like the SNA one's
• 1:42:20
  like way out there because you walk all the way to Ello, right?
• 1:42:23
  So you go out there, you go out there, you go out there and
• 1:42:25
  you keep walking, keep walking.
• 1:42:27
  I actually had walked past it and I didn't realize, I saw all these banners
• 1:42:30
  and flags and I'm like, I'm close.
• 1:42:32
  Like I can see there's a sign that says Sena and it's on the opposite
• 1:42:36
  wall on the other side of the track.
• 1:42:37
  And I said, this is the Ella Chicane, I'm here, but like, where's the memorial?
• 1:42:41
  Right?
• 1:42:41
  This is really strange.
• 1:42:42
  So I walk past it, I walk all the way to the gates and there's this guy there, and
• 1:42:46
  I don't know if he worked at the track or not, but he was super nice older guy.
• 1:42:49
  And I said, Hey, excuse me, I don't know if I missed it or
• 1:42:52
  what, but I said, where is.
• 1:42:54
  The Senate memorial and he's like, oh, if you're looking for the point
• 1:42:57
  of impact, like where the plaque is and whatever, I'll show you.
• 1:43:00
  It's actually kind of hard to find.
• 1:43:01
  So he walks me back and inside of all that mess of t-shirts and flags and flowers
• 1:43:06
  and just all this stuff that's maintained there, there's this little plaque and it
• 1:43:10
  looks directly at the point of impact when you look across the track where he hit.
• 1:43:15
  And so at that moment now you realize you're kind of like in the trees.
• 1:43:19
  You're up against the guardrail, you're looking at this plaque, you're looking
• 1:43:23
  out over the track, you're surrounded by all this memorabilia and all this stuff.
• 1:43:26
  And then there's this statue like in bronze of Sena, sort of almost looking
• 1:43:30
  like the thinking man, I don't know.
• 1:43:32
  Maybe it's just me, but there's this overwhelming sense of like,
• 1:43:36
  I don't know what to call it.
• 1:43:36
  Like John tried to even explain it in his article that he wrote about when he went
• 1:43:40
  to go visit and all that, and it just.
• 1:43:42
  It's weird, it's very emotional and it's very quiet.
• 1:43:44
  And then you sort of realize in the distance there's a
• 1:43:47
  park with kids and stuff.
• 1:43:49
  You know, Sena was big with kids and helping kids and giving money and the
• 1:43:52
  foundations and all, and it's sort of like, it's just this juxtaposition that
• 1:43:55
  you're just like, okay, I get it now.
• 1:43:57
  Like it becomes suddenly becomes very real, his whole legacy and everything.
• 1:44:01
  And so for me, I don't know, emotional, spiritual moment,
• 1:44:04
  but it was very worth going.
• 1:44:05
  And I would say if I had to pick a European track to go watch an F1 race at,
• 1:44:11
  I don't know, you know, I've never been to Monza, but I think Monza would be cool,
• 1:44:14
  but I think MLO would be on my list of top places to go check out a Formula One race.
• 1:44:19
  I just, I like the whole atmosphere.
• 1:44:21
  I like the whole vibe.
• 1:44:22
  I like the way it's laid out.
• 1:44:23
  I, I like the vantage points and everything.
• 1:44:25
  I think it was pretty cool.
• 1:44:26
  Yeah, no, definitely.
• 1:44:27
  I think Italy is one of the, if you go for an F1 race, it's one of the places to go.
• 1:44:30
  Just, I mean it's de fci.
• 1:44:31
  I really like that.
• 1:44:32
  I mean, just, it's supposed to be unbelievable.
• 1:44:34
  Well, and I tried to do one more thing 'cause on our last day
• 1:44:36
  we went to go visit my uncle.
• 1:44:37
  He invited us over for lunch and the day before we were supposed to leave.
• 1:44:41
  And so he lives.
• 1:44:42
  Eight miles from the Dara Academy.
• 1:44:45
  And so they got their whole museum thing there too.
• 1:44:47
  And I know Tanya's been before and she wrote an article about it
• 1:44:50
  and took pictures of everything.
• 1:44:51
  I said, oh, this is my chance.
• 1:44:53
  I didn't go the last time I was here.
• 1:44:54
  I wanna check it out.
• 1:44:55
  We've literally driven by it 16 times.
• 1:44:57
  'cause it was on the road where our Airbnb was or whatever.
• 1:45:00
  So I'm like, okay, you know, I want to go check this place out and
• 1:45:03
  we're looking online and you know, okay, it's open Mondays from this
• 1:45:07
  time to this time and you know, blah blah, all this kind of stuff.
• 1:45:10
  And so we get there parking lot's full.
• 1:45:11
  We're like, that's a good sign.
• 1:45:12
  You know, find a parking spot, walk around close due to like renovations or whatever.
• 1:45:17
  Like, ah, you gotta be kidding me.
• 1:45:21
  I took a picture in front of the de la you know, the same way Tanya did.
• 1:45:24
  I stood behind it instead of in front of it.
• 1:45:25
  And, and now I realize, I was like, how far back were you to take that picture?
• 1:45:29
  Because it's right up against the road.
• 1:45:31
  I mean, you know, that kind of thing.
• 1:45:32
  Tanya, if you want, because you've been there, you wanna describe what the De La
• 1:45:35
  Academy Museum is sort of like, I mean, when you first walk in, there's like
• 1:45:38
  all these placards that kind of take you through the history of De La and it's all
• 1:45:42
  the chassis work with the, the Indy cars and even Formula cars and all that stuff.
• 1:45:47
  Are they still building those road cars?
• 1:45:48
  They're, I know they don't sell 'em here.
• 1:45:50
  Are they still building those for Europe?
• 1:45:51
  I think so, yeah.
• 1:45:52
  But then they have a bunch of other race cars that they were involved with.
• 1:45:56
  They're all on display basically.
• 1:45:58
  And it's, it's a weird building inside that kind of, almost
• 1:46:00
  has this like circular ramp.
• 1:46:02
  And then there's, I think there different rooms and there's
• 1:46:04
  Lamborghinis and there's.
• 1:46:06
  Barons and you know, a whole bunch of stuff.
• 1:46:08
  Well, the one thing I saw in the window that I thought was pretty
• 1:46:11
  cool, kind of ogling from the outside.
• 1:46:12
  Not that I didn't see it in person.
• 1:46:13
  The garage 56 car is in the Delara Academy.
• 1:46:16
  Well, that's new.
• 1:46:17
  It's sitting up in the Oh, interesting.
• 1:46:18
  In the glass.
• 1:46:18
  It's the car furthest back.
• 1:46:20
  I mean, honestly, I'd have to go back and even read my own
• 1:46:22
  article to see what was there.
• 1:46:24
  It's been a decade.
• 1:46:27
  The adventures didn't stop there.
• 1:46:28
  William, you set off for Miami.
• 1:46:30
  What was going on in Miami?
• 1:46:32
  I land and my flight's coming back from Chicago is delayed two and a half hours.
• 1:46:37
  Lovely.
• 1:46:37
  United again.
• 1:46:38
  So when I finally get back here, phone turns on and I get a text message.
• 1:46:43
  From our good friend Mr. David Beatie from Slot Mod.
• 1:46:46
  He goes, well what are you doing next week?
• 1:46:48
  I, I don't have anything.
• 1:46:48
  He goes, he goes, I'm going to Miami, can you come with me?
• 1:46:51
  Yeah, sure.
• 1:46:51
  And I'm like, what's going on?
• 1:46:53
  And he tells me that he's, you know, hooked up to go to Barry
• 1:46:56
  Konik collection 'cause Barry's interested in buying a track from him.
• 1:46:59
  Barry's very public in regards to his collection.
• 1:47:01
  Like that.
• 1:47:02
  Super nice guy.
• 1:47:03
  Unbelievable cars, unbelievable artwork.
• 1:47:05
  You know, we were with him for a couple hours, you know, he's got a real keen
• 1:47:08
  eye for art and it's really cool stuff.
• 1:47:10
  It's not kinda your basic, just boring stuff.
• 1:47:12
  And he finds these guys like on Instagram or street artists, stuff like that.
• 1:47:16
  So it's really cool stuff.
• 1:47:17
  So I was really neat to see.
• 1:47:18
  'cause I mean he just got a crazy collection of cars and when he
• 1:47:21
  first started getting into car stuff, he was into the muscle cars,
• 1:47:24
  you know, the chopped cars like 49 Mercks and that kind of stuff.
• 1:47:27
  Which he has some there.
• 1:47:28
  But then obviously grew into what he has now is Daytona sp threes, you know,
• 1:47:32
  he is got his A MG ones coming, he's got a cones, a lot of high class stuff.
• 1:47:36
  But that was neat.
• 1:47:36
  But in talking with Dave before we left, he wanted to try
• 1:47:40
  and fill in some more time.
• 1:47:42
  One was about going to Curated.
• 1:47:43
  I know those guys well.
• 1:47:44
  So I said, well that's not a problem you forever I go.
• 1:47:46
  But I don't know if Herschel or John would be there.
• 1:47:48
  'cause you know, Dave just kind of wanted to meet him, networking, stuff like that.
• 1:47:51
  But the other one was garage 26.
• 1:47:54
  I had never heard of them.
• 1:47:55
  He sent me their Instagram page.
• 1:47:56
  But there's a few things on there.
• 1:47:57
  You do a little research, find out father son duo real estate and everything.
• 1:48:01
  The son, Tommy, he runs in Ferrari Challenge, that kind stuff.
• 1:48:04
  So he's trying to get a hold of someone to find out how we go in there.
• 1:48:07
  He's not have much luck and he knows Adrian Fernandez very well.
• 1:48:10
  I he's, so Eric, you just interviewed Adrian.
• 1:48:12
  When's listening?
• 1:48:13
  Go listen to that episode.
• 1:48:14
  Awesome.
• 1:48:15
  I was, I was digging around.
• 1:48:16
  I noticed there's a little blurb in there about Adrian's office and that is in the
• 1:48:21
  same building as his garage 26 and it kind of throws you off 'cause you're like, you
• 1:48:25
  know, Adrian's on the fourth floor and hey, they're on the fifth, blah, blah.
• 1:48:28
  I'm like, okay.
• 1:48:28
  He reaches out to Adrian.
• 1:48:30
  Lo and behold, Adrian's part of that whole thing.
• 1:48:32
  So it's like boom, there's our entry.
• 1:48:34
  And so after we go to Skolnik, we go over there and we meet Adrian's nephew, jp.
• 1:48:40
  Awesome dude.
• 1:48:41
  Super nice.
• 1:48:42
  He does these cool things.
• 1:48:43
  I was trying to get some more details outta my, anyways, we go to the
• 1:48:46
  building five stories high, right then.
• 1:48:48
  Tesla dealership First street forwards.
• 1:48:50
  Well, you go into where the parking lot's at, so you got
• 1:48:52
  your service doors and like that.
• 1:48:53
  Well, then there's these little, maybe I'd say six foot wide red door
• 1:48:59
  entryway and it's for Gable's Auto Vault as it that was being called.
• 1:49:02
  And you look through there, you can see this bank door and like that.
• 1:49:05
  And to the right of it, maybe about 15 feet, there's these two
• 1:49:08
  double glass garage doors that you look through when they open up.
• 1:49:12
  Then there's two car elevator doors.
• 1:49:14
  They're like, okay, this has gotta be it.
• 1:49:16
  Initially this whole building was supposed to be like a private garage
• 1:49:20
  type deal for owners and stuff like that.
• 1:49:21
  Display the cars.
• 1:49:22
  Well, when they did it, Tesla approached 'em.
• 1:49:25
  I guess, you know, obviously the dollar talks.
• 1:49:27
  So Tesla's got the first three floors.
• 1:49:29
  So we go up to the fifth floor.
• 1:49:30
  That's the first one.
• 1:49:30
  This is garage 26.
• 1:49:31
  There's the whole floor doors open up.
• 1:49:33
  As soon as it opens up, you step out.
• 1:49:35
  There's a hallway, there's a mannequin right here that's a cop.
• 1:49:38
  Whatever that looks so realistic, you swear it's a person,
• 1:49:40
  it kind of throws you off.
• 1:49:41
  The elevator door opens, you look straight ahead.
• 1:49:43
  There is a 2003 Ferrari F1 Michael Schumacher a Ferrari 3 33 SP F 40 LM a pi.
• 1:49:52
  So I mean, just those four cars there you see alone the lms.
• 1:49:55
  9 million, 10 million, maybe 3, 3, 3 sps probably five, 6 million.
• 1:49:59
  Now maybe even a little bit more.
• 1:50:01
  God knows what you're gonna put a price on uh, X shoe marker, F1 car.
• 1:50:04
  But then you step out and it's a hallway.
• 1:50:06
  'cause these are all glass doors and these things are behind the garage doors.
• 1:50:09
  They're all glass, real nice marble floors and that.
• 1:50:11
  So you gotta a real wide hallways going down.
• 1:50:14
  You know, as you scan on there, you know, there's this model sitting here.
• 1:50:17
  They got a wire frame of an F1 car's hanging a wall,
• 1:50:19
  but all you see is Ferrari.
• 1:50:21
  Ferrari, Ferrari.
• 1:50:21
  You go, then you pan 'em the other way.
• 1:50:23
  Just Ferrari, Ferrari, Ferrari.
• 1:50:24
  Everywhere that I can see.
• 1:50:26
  You wanna talk about me being in heaven, open up the doors, everything like that.
• 1:50:29
  And so that was the plan was, is you could buy these units depending
• 1:50:32
  on size and whatnot, you know, you stash your collection there.
• 1:50:34
  So like I said, SP one, sp two sp threes F 42 8 8 GTO La Ferrari a
• 1:50:40
  12 comps, the creme de la creme.
• 1:50:42
  The cars that are impossible to get.
• 1:50:44
  People want, like there's multiples.
• 1:50:46
  And then you go down little other side, there's a 9 6 2 Porsche, you
• 1:50:50
  know, you got some Porsches and stuff.
• 1:50:51
  Unbelievable stuff.
• 1:50:52
  JP is like opening the doors.
• 1:50:53
  Oh, let's go in here.
• 1:50:54
  I mean, wide open, you can check everything out.
• 1:50:56
  It's got, it's hanging out there.
• 1:50:58
  It's got a bar, two story area, nice glass, I mean gorgeous.
• 1:51:01
  You go around, it's got your little seating area and stuff like that.
• 1:51:03
  But another thing, you go up the flight of stairs to the roof, there's still an
• 1:51:07
  indoor area there where there's a, a loft.
• 1:51:08
  The simulator that they have is an actual tub from a 4 8 8 race car.
• 1:51:14
  Wow.
• 1:51:15
  So they took off the front, they took off the back end.
• 1:51:17
  It's the actual tub is the air jacks, I mean.
• 1:51:19
  Unbelievable.
• 1:51:20
  Then it's got a beautiful outside deck, everything like that.
• 1:51:22
  So then we go down to the fourth floor and that's where Adrian's office is at.
• 1:51:26
  But then you have smaller units, you know, still all the
• 1:51:29
  glass doors, everyth like that.
• 1:51:30
  But these are ones where some owners got smaller space.
• 1:51:32
  Like one guy's just got two cars in there.
• 1:51:34
  He is got a 12 company, a 12 TDF.
• 1:51:36
  Other side guys have got a rough CTR, all this.
• 1:51:38
  I mean just again mind-bending stuff.
• 1:51:41
  But Adrian's unit was super cool 'cause it's his office and everything.
• 1:51:45
  So you go in there at the end, he is got a new 3 5 6 that he bought.
• 1:51:48
  He's got one of his old Indy cars that's on display engine
• 1:51:51
  lids off everyth like that.
• 1:51:52
  I mean fully functional, the whole thing.
• 1:51:54
  He's, he's got one hanging on the wall too, right?
• 1:51:56
  Yeah.
• 1:51:56
  And he's got one that does over here hanging on the wall.
• 1:51:59
  And then he is got all his trophies, race suits, all his old helmets.
• 1:52:02
  And then on the one end he's got the track he bought from Dave.
• 1:52:05
  It's very minimalistic, I guess you could say.
• 1:52:07
  You know, it's not like the, some of the ones where he is got all
• 1:52:09
  the trees and all this stuff.
• 1:52:10
  It's very sleek and fits in perfectly with the decor.
• 1:52:14
  I mean, it's just dead nuts on.
• 1:52:15
  Then you know, you go up, he's got a little office area, he is got a
• 1:52:17
  seating area, he is got a track, he's got a couple, you know, simulators.
• 1:52:20
  I mean you wanna talk about presentation and just mind blowing way to have
• 1:52:25
  your vehicle stored, displayed.
• 1:52:26
  I mean, this is like another level.
• 1:52:29
  Unbelievable.
• 1:52:30
  The quality of the cars that were in this, not just in the garage 26.
• 1:52:35
  'cause that was just unbelievable.
• 1:52:36
  But the other units too is, and then the elevators, I posted a quick video
• 1:52:40
  of it 'cause it's like you're going in the bat cave, like, oh my God.
• 1:52:42
  Check out those cars.
• 1:52:43
  You, it's going.
• 1:52:44
  Then when it goes down, it opens back up.
• 1:52:45
  You're like, oh my God, look at these cars.
• 1:52:47
  Me and Dave were both just absolutely blown away.
• 1:52:51
  The cars that were in these collections, and again, JP was.
• 1:52:54
  Awesome.
• 1:52:55
  I mean, just Awesome, awesome dude.
• 1:52:57
  I can't say enough about him when you finally get through the backlog of editing
• 1:53:00
  all your videos and stuff, I look forward to seeing 'em up on YouTube, but also,
• 1:53:04
  you know, maybe we'll see some of these garages and private collections showing
• 1:53:07
  up on Garage Top Magazine as well.
• 1:53:08
  Some of the photos that you took.
• 1:53:09
  So we'll keep everybody up to speed on where you are with all
• 1:53:13
  your travels and everything.
• 1:53:14
  But I mean, I can't wait to look at all the pictures.
• 1:53:16
  It's pretty awesome.
• 1:53:17
  I, I still have one more video to, I gotta do all the paddock one or the grid walk
• 1:53:20
  for Lamont, then I'm gonna do those ones.
• 1:53:22
  But it's some really cool stuff and I, and again, to Barry as well, and
• 1:53:26
  I mean, oh, do whatever you want.
• 1:53:27
  Take as many video, you know, I mean, just have at it.
• 1:53:30
  And I was trying to get a Barry's getting fo of some of the stuff
• 1:53:33
  that you really don't see.
• 1:53:34
  'cause you know, a lot of people just take this stuff that everyone sees.
• 1:53:37
  Very rare that someone gets that access to Garage 26.
• 1:53:40
  So I think people should definitely see that because it's not something that, oh,
• 1:53:44
  everyone can go in or just say, give a call or something like the Stars aligned
• 1:53:47
  and days of relationship with Adrian and Goddess in and everything like that.
• 1:53:51
  'cause again, and Adrian was the same way.
• 1:53:52
  I mean, I didn't get to meet him.
• 1:53:53
  He was out of town or something, but he was like very a comedy, you know, telling
• 1:53:56
  David, well get ahold of my nephew.
• 1:53:57
  Oh he'll get, you know, and everyth like that.
• 1:53:58
  So great people definitely check him out.
• 1:54:00
  You'll be amazed at what you see.
• 1:54:02
  William, it's been an adventure.
• 1:54:04
  It's been a lot of fun.
• 1:54:05
  I know by the time this airs, you'll have already closed out rocks and
• 1:54:09
  revs and all that kind of, the merry ground is coming to an end here.
• 1:54:13
  Any projections, things you want to take off the bucket list for
• 1:54:16
  maybe next year, the year after?
• 1:54:17
  What are you thinking?
• 1:54:18
  Goodwood, that was the one thing too, is like if I was able to figure it out.
• 1:54:22
  Perfect.
• 1:54:23
  'cause Goodwood is the following weekend after head up North and do it.
• 1:54:26
  I mean, that would be outstanding to that.
• 1:54:27
  I mean, it wouldn't be a cheap trip, but you're already over in Europe.
• 1:54:30
  Might as well just, hey, just spend a few more days and go up north.
• 1:54:33
  But Goodwood would be the one to go to.
• 1:54:35
  But I would definitely do the revival.
• 1:54:37
  I wouldn't do the hill climb.
• 1:54:38
  Yeah.
• 1:54:39
  'cause I mean, they're just driving up this driveway that wouldn't always, I
• 1:54:42
  kind of scratched my head it as like, I mean, yeah, they do a lot of, you know,
• 1:54:45
  launches and that kind of cool stuff, but, eh, I, I wanna see 'em go on the track.
• 1:54:48
  So I, I'd go, I'd love to go to the revival.
• 1:54:50
  I think we might be tainted though, because if we go to the revival Yeah.
• 1:54:53
  And we're gonna be comparing it to Lama Classic Disappointed and then
• 1:54:57
  it's like, well why do we do this?
• 1:54:58
  We'll just do classic again.
• 1:54:59
  Which is nice because classic they've announced starting this year, it's
• 1:55:03
  gonna be every year instead of like whenever they feel like it kind
• 1:55:06
  of thing or what they were doing.
• 1:55:07
  So it's cool to see.
• 1:55:08
  Classic has got some legs underneath of it, so there'll be an opportunity
• 1:55:11
  to go back and I kind of like that.
• 1:55:13
  Right.
• 1:55:13
  Go to the big lama like the next.
• 1:55:15
  Hundredth.
• 1:55:16
  Yeah, the actual hundredth.
• 1:55:17
  Hundredth running, you know, is the next big one, but the
• 1:55:19
  rest of the Lamont 24 hours.
• 1:55:20
  You watch it on TV and that's great, but classic, again, it's just got that vibe.
• 1:55:24
  It's got that feel.
• 1:55:25
  It's a time machine.
• 1:55:26
  There's something awesome about it.
• 1:55:27
  Well, especially now going to it once, getting the lay of the land,
• 1:55:30
  understand things get, okay, this is how they're doing stuff now.
• 1:55:34
  You can really attack it in regards to what you'd wanna accomplish.
• 1:55:37
  Kind of know the ins and outs.
• 1:55:38
  That would definitely be something to go back to, would be that.
• 1:55:41
  I mean, it's well worth it.
• 1:55:42
  Everyone I've talked to, I said, buckle this thing.
• 1:55:44
  If you ever get the chance, you have to go do it.
• 1:55:46
  You have to figure out some way to go do it.
• 1:55:48
  Well, it looks like we took over the whole episode with our adventures.
• 1:55:52
  Seems like it.
• 1:55:53
  Since Brad isn't here.
• 1:55:54
  We'll kind of reconvene our normal news next month.
• 1:55:58
  We got all the lots of cool stuff that in essence of time we will cover next time.
• 1:56:02
  But there's a couple things I do want to add that are part
• 1:56:05
  of our European adventures.
• 1:56:06
  I did, I found a lost and found for you, Tanya, when we were at Lamont.
• 1:56:09
  Do you remember this one?
• 1:56:10
  William?
• 1:56:10
  You can buy an R 18 Audi l and p one car.
• 1:56:13
  Yes you can.
• 1:56:14
  It's for sale.
• 1:56:15
  Don't ask.
• 1:56:15
  With the low, low prices though, low, low price of a million dollars
• 1:56:18
  somewhere in that neighborhood.
• 1:56:19
  Yeah.
• 1:56:19
  They were making sure it was in tip top shape.
• 1:56:21
  I love the for sale sign official Audi for sale sign on that R 18.
• 1:56:25
  I mean, it is diesel powered.
• 1:56:26
  It can't be worth that much, that clean diesel, you know, that kind of thing.
• 1:56:30
  Okay.
• 1:56:30
  What you gonna pay for it then?
• 1:56:31
  You're gonna pay 10 times that much every year trying to operate it again.
• 1:56:34
  It is just a situation where, okay, you actually will have the
• 1:56:36
  car in your possession then do you They fly the text in or no audio.
• 1:56:40
  Keep it.
• 1:56:40
  You own it, but it's gonna stay at Audi then whenever you wanna drive with it.
• 1:56:44
  Uh, no.
• 1:56:44
  That's a Ferrari thing.
• 1:56:45
  Don't be confused.
• 1:56:46
  Yeah.
• 1:56:48
  If I own something, I want it in my possession.
• 1:56:51
  So, jumping ahead.
• 1:56:52
  We do have an uncool wall nominee this month and this comes straight
• 1:56:55
  outta Italy, but it's French.
• 1:56:57
  Mind you, I saw plenty of ugly cars while I was over there,
• 1:56:59
  but this one took the cake.
• 1:57:01
  We were walking down the one of the roads.
• 1:57:03
  In S Mione, which is on the lakes up in Italy.
• 1:57:07
  My whole family stopped and was like, what the heck is this thing?
• 1:57:10
  So I present for your consideration, the EO 1007 and it's sliding doors.
• 1:57:16
  Oh wow.
• 1:57:17
  That's interesting.
• 1:57:19
  They don't ride the brakes much.
• 1:57:21
  Look at the there, this little bit of brake dust on those front wheels.
• 1:57:23
  Ah, I mean, can you imagine having a two-door car and the doors slide and
• 1:57:28
  obviously that tells you the parking over there in regards to how people
• 1:57:32
  probably park next to each other.
• 1:57:33
  Right?
• 1:57:33
  There's not a car without a door done.
• 1:57:35
  Yeah, the interior looked like a handicap shower, so you know, you can imagine.
• 1:57:40
  But the whole thing, it just was like, I don't know, it was so bizarre.
• 1:57:44
  It's the most bizarre car I've seen in a long time.
• 1:57:47
  But like what possesses a designer to say, you know what?
• 1:57:50
  We're gonna make it two doors and it's gonna be the shape of a
• 1:57:52
  box and we're gonna make the door slide quintessentially French.
• 1:57:55
  The person colorblind that bought this, I mean, why would you buy that colored boot?
• 1:57:58
  This is that metallic mustard copper stuff that they like.
• 1:58:02
  I don't, Ugh.
• 1:58:03
  It's awful.
• 1:58:04
  Since you're here, William, and I know you made it part of your summer
• 1:58:07
  vacation and I'm sure we'll talk more about Formula One in our next episode.
• 1:58:20
  But I've gotta ask because we joked we made fun of your $10 movie theater.
• 1:58:24
  Did you go see the F1 movie?
• 1:58:26
  Hell yes.
• 1:58:27
  It's awesome.
• 1:58:28
  Is it, I think it's a, I think it was a fantastic movie.
• 1:58:30
  I thought it was really good.
• 1:58:31
  And again, though I can asking, I said this like with Ford verse fire
• 1:58:34
  and stuff, this is for entertainment.
• 1:58:35
  It's not trying to nail it down, but they did a hell of a job capturing
• 1:58:40
  like the speed, the sound, everything.
• 1:58:43
  I mean, some of the shots that they got were ly.
• 1:58:45
  'cause I mean you saw when they were filming how immersed they
• 1:58:48
  were with the actual F1 after races and everything like that.
• 1:58:51
  Obviously you can clearly tell lots the CGI stuff, this and that.
• 1:58:54
  Like, oh, that'll never happen.
• 1:58:55
  So there's a lot of stuff you go like, uh, but you gotta take with a grain of salt.
• 1:58:58
  It's pure entertainment purposes.
• 1:59:00
  Most of the racing footage was.
• 1:59:02
  Literally real racing footage that they went and CGI didn't change the colors of
• 1:59:06
  the car, so there wasn't, you know, an Alpine or a Red Bull and stuff like that.
• 1:59:10
  Well, the one cool thing is they go back to, in the eighties when he like got
• 1:59:15
  into it, they used Martin Donnelly's actual crash video and footage of
• 1:59:19
  him crashing, lying in the middle of the track, the whole nine yards.
• 1:59:23
  Wow.
• 1:59:23
  So it's like that, it's the actual video of it.
• 1:59:25
  So they used some real stuff in it.
• 1:59:26
  They kind of cji to make, you know, so it was him in the car driving that
• 1:59:30
  lotus, but they used a lot of old footage back then, kind of having flashbacks
• 1:59:34
  and kinda how like he was supposed to be the next big thing just, and it's
• 1:59:37
  kind of based Martin do never got back into an F1 car, but no spoilers.
• 1:59:42
  All right, so let me ask this.
• 1:59:43
  Lemme ask again.
• 1:59:44
  Brad Pitt, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:59:45
  It's like Tom Cruise and the rest of 'em, and you talk about the CGI and
• 1:59:48
  all this cool stuff in my mind, I think that the storyline, the plot,
• 1:59:53
  the acting, the, oh, it's crap.
• 1:59:54
  Okay, so it's like Grand Smo then, right?
• 1:59:56
  Yeah.
• 1:59:57
  I mean, come on, you go look at the thing.
• 1:59:58
  Go.
• 1:59:59
  This would never happen.
• 2:00:00
  It's a complete joke.
• 2:00:01
  Oh, come on this guy.
• 2:00:02
  You're trying to do the math in your head.
• 2:00:04
  Okay.
• 2:00:04
  If he was.
• 2:00:05
  Even 18 or 19 when they're saying he would have to be in the eighties when
• 2:00:09
  he break, and then what the years now would be, he'd be in his sixties.
• 2:00:13
  I would never, ever freaking happen.
• 2:00:15
  It's Alonzo.
• 2:00:16
  It's just the story of Alonzo.
• 2:00:17
  That's, it's Brad Pitts.
• 2:00:19
  All right.
• 2:00:19
  He's made some good movies, but I mean, every movie he is in he,
• 2:00:22
  he is the same demeanor, same.
• 2:00:25
  It's just plug and play and doing it how he acts.
• 2:00:27
  But I enjoyed it.
• 2:00:29
  I think it's definitely worth it to go see it.
• 2:00:31
  We didn't stay for it, but we actually went to the drive-in the other
• 2:00:34
  night and it was the second movie.
• 2:00:35
  We went and saw Superman and it was supposed to be the second one, but I was
• 2:00:38
  like, yeah, I don't feel like staying.
• 2:00:39
  That's when I'll wait till it comes back out on Apple TV and I'll
• 2:00:41
  watch it, you know, on my TV again.
• 2:00:43
  But I thought it was good.
• 2:00:44
  Speaking of Apple tv, I heard that Apple is bidding for Formula
• 2:00:48
  One coverage for next year.
• 2:00:49
  I think they got it.
• 2:00:50
  Did they really?
• 2:00:51
  No, I thought Disney did.
• 2:00:53
  What is the deal with Disney and Formula One?
• 2:00:56
  Everyone's trying to get on the bandwagon and depending on how long
• 2:00:58
  they buy the rice for to do it, if they buy it for any more than five
• 2:01:01
  years, they're gonna be effed because I guarantee in five years the.
• 2:01:05
  Popularity here in the States is gonna start waning big time.
• 2:01:08
  It's gonna do that NASCAR thing where NASCAR was boom, boom, boom.
• 2:01:10
  Yeah.
• 2:01:11
  You know, same thing's gonna happen here with that.
• 2:01:12
  What?
• 2:01:12
  Because everyone's gonna just like, nah, it's the same to your weekend to point.
• 2:01:16
  We heard a lot of that when we were at Lamont Classic and we
• 2:01:19
  were talking to other people about other racing disciplines and
• 2:01:21
  you know, people were surprised.
• 2:01:23
  200,000 people showing for a vintage event is just ridiculous numbers.
• 2:01:27
  But you heard the same thing from a lot of people.
• 2:01:29
  I'm really tired of Formula One.
• 2:01:31
  The racing's really boring.
• 2:01:33
  The drama is really fake, blah, blah, you know, the same thing.
• 2:01:35
  And it, and I know I've been saying this, hearing it from other people,
• 2:01:39
  unsolicited, you're sort of like, well, I guess I'm not alone on Survivor Island.
• 2:01:44
  Okay.
• 2:01:44
  First of all, formula one TV has always been boring.
• 2:01:47
  I mean, it just doesn't matter what era you pick.
• 2:01:49
  Kind of like you've always said.
• 2:01:50
  You watch the beginning, you snooze in the middle.
• 2:01:52
  You watch the end and it's over.
• 2:01:54
  But now it's to me more spec racing than it's ever been,
• 2:01:58
  at least during the S days.
• 2:01:59
  And Schumacher, the cars were sort of different, you know,
• 2:02:02
  especially during the Sena days.
• 2:02:03
  You had the flat 12 Ferraris and the V eight Judds and you know,
• 2:02:07
  the turbo this and the that.
• 2:02:08
  And so it was a mixed bag of stuff.
• 2:02:11
  And then the V 10 era was obviously amazing, but now,
• 2:02:14
  I don't know, it's just hard.
• 2:02:15
  And I think the whole COVID is over for a long time now.
• 2:02:18
  People have gone back to, let's say, quote unquote normal, and Formula One doesn't
• 2:02:22
  have the same draw because we're not all.
• 2:02:24
  Stuck at home with nothing else to watch.
• 2:02:25
  I agree.
• 2:02:26
  I mean that's why I say, you know, the shine will come off of that
• 2:02:29
  diamond or everyone I call it, it'll be Shinola when it's done.
• 2:02:32
  Yeah.
• 2:02:32
  I especially like the Vegas race of Miamis.
• 2:02:34
  I'll be amazed at that Miami races last another three or four
• 2:02:37
  seasons because it's just crap.
• 2:02:39
  You know, Austin's always gonna be there 'cause you're gonna have that one Austin,
• 2:02:41
  you know, great tracker like that.
• 2:02:43
  But, and in Vegas too, I think it's just, I'd rather watch the WEC race at Austin
• 2:02:47
  than the Formula One race at Austin.
• 2:02:48
  I, I agree with you on that.
• 2:02:49
  A thousand percent.
• 2:02:50
  So, yeah, I mean, and the obscene amount of money that either Disney or Apple,
• 2:02:53
  whoever ends with is gonna have to pay.
• 2:02:55
  I mean, Liberty Media is just cash cashing and it would not surprise me within the
• 2:02:58
  next five years, Liberty Media ends up selling up to the oil rich nations of
• 2:03:02
  Saudi Arabia, one of those DAE funds, whatever, and just walks away making
• 2:03:06
  their billions and billions of dollars.
• 2:03:08
  'cause it's at that point, saturation 24 races.
• 2:03:11
  I mean, that's just too many.
• 2:03:12
  I mean that's, and it's total cash grab To close out this thought on
• 2:03:15
  Formula One, as we sort of wrap out this impromptu bitter sports news.
• 2:03:18
  I gotta give props to Hulk burg.
• 2:03:20
  It's taking like 25 years to podium.
• 2:03:22
  Yes.
• 2:03:23
  You know, I'm sad to miss that race 'cause that actually looked like it
• 2:03:27
  was a really good race at Silverstone.
• 2:03:29
  I watched the highlights, you know, that's why they always wish for rain at
• 2:03:32
  every race because it evens things out.
• 2:03:35
  I make everything interesting when it's rain.
• 2:03:37
  I'll watch the whole race.
• 2:03:38
  I'm be like, okay, this will be interesting.
• 2:03:39
  Yeah, I'll watch whole thing if it rains.
• 2:03:52
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  Yeah, congrats.
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  That's a big milestone in this statement.
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  That's huge.
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  A lot of come and go, you know, a lot of these things come and go
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  and, but you take it, you grow with it, make things happen and, and
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  it's going in the right direction.
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  So, I mean, it's, it's gonna be cool to see what the next 10 years brings.
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  Well, I'm glad you're along for the ride.
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  Yeah.
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  So, yeah, I'm excited.
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  Besides more gray hairs, but you know, and all the fans, friends and family
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  who support Grand Touring Motor sports and the Motoring Podcast network.
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  Without you, none of this would be possible.
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  Tro and we're out.
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  Did William freeze?
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  William froze.
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  Do looks like it.
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  He was a little choppy there for a second.
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  I thought it was me.
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  I thought it was me too.
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  Well, I guess we'll have to wait till he comes back.
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  This is like when Brad was frozen back like episode.
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  I remember drive through 13 or something like that.
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  He's like B Tanya.
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  Anything you wanted to add?
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  It's man, it's like you guys listen to these stories baiting so fast
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  when here we are in the drive through line.
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  Me and her cars in front of us, cars in back of us all just waiting to order.
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  There's some idiot in a Volvo with us.
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  Brights on behind me.
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  I lean out the window and scream, Hey, what ya trying to do?
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  Blind me.
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  My wife says maybe we should park.
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