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Sheev Palpatine Phone Home · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Node Palty.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: This is Nick and Ostasu, story editor on Star Wars,
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  Speaker 2: Matt, are you ready.
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  Speaker 4: To get rollin' with the deep dive topic as they
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  Speaker 4: like to say here on Aggressive Negotiations?
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  Speaker 2: Well? I am.
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  Speaker 1: But for a second there, I thought you were going
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  Speaker 1: sure if you were. You know, we were doing Charles
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you now. I'm so ready. I think we
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  Speaker 1: actually have a really fun, lively talk at tonight, as
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  Speaker 4: As we like to say, We have a couple of
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  Speaker 4: emails we want to get around to. But I'll tell
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  Speaker 4: you it has been some really great topics thrown at us,
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  Speaker 4: but it has been very, very difficult to sort of
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  Speaker 4: organize things. I'll tell you the hyperspace lanes have been
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  Speaker 4: absolutely hectic lately, So thank you for bearing with us.
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  Speaker 4: But we have a topic here that I think is
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  Speaker 4: gonna be really interesting to explore because I'm listening right
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  Speaker 4: now to the new audiobook recording of Shadows of the Empire. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: and there's there's a lot of good stuff in there,
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  Speaker 4: Like it's just it's a even if it's not great literature,
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  Speaker 4: like Charles Dickens, who we were referencing earlier, it's still
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  Speaker 4: really enjoyable. As Steve Perry, not the lead singer of Journey,
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  Speaker 4: wrote the book and just really got the characterizations down.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun and the new audiobook is
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  Speaker 4: wonderful too. But it got me to thinking we have
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  Speaker 4: different interactions. Moostafar doesn't exist at the time that this
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  Speaker 4: book has written, so we don't.
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  Speaker 2: Have Vader's castle.
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  Speaker 4: But then I was thinking to myself, when we're on Coruscant,
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  Speaker 4: where is the Emperor living? Hmmm, like where would it
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  Speaker 4: make sense for him to live in the original trilogy
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  Speaker 4: era on Corussant.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I love that you're asking this question
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  Speaker 1: because it was something, you know, the moment that you
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  Speaker 1: brought it up, I started thinking about this idea, and
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  Speaker 1: I honestly can't remember, but because if memory serves, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, uh that in the X Wing books, when
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  Speaker 1: you know, the whole that whole series is really leading
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  Speaker 1: up to them to retaking Courissant, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: when they got to Coorissant that the Emperor had turned
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  Speaker 1: the Jedi Temple basically into his own personal like museum,
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, I don't know, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: it's it's still true and Cannon, but I feel like
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  Speaker 1: as well that.
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  Speaker 2: That it was.
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  Speaker 1: The eu version that the the Jedi Temple had been
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  Speaker 1: placed on kind of a dark side nexus of the
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  Speaker 1: force as well, like as if to cover it or something.
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  Speaker 1: And so I've always thought that you know, the idea
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  Speaker 1: of the Emperor kind of utilizing the Jedi Temple is
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  Speaker 1: his own personal like bragging rights, you know, and turning
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  Speaker 1: it into basically his own private domain that nobody is
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  Speaker 1: allowed to enter anymore. Uh, and that you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: continued his research that he's been doing that. We know
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  Speaker 1: that he's been doing uh and those type of things.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I like to think that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he turned what was once uh the the Jedi Council
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  Speaker 1: chambers in his own personal bedroom, you know, just as
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  Speaker 1: a you know, middle finger to the Jedi. And so
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  Speaker 1: that was that was my first thought, is is where
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  Speaker 1: Palpatine would live? Because it just seems so petty and
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  Speaker 1: vigndictive and so Palpatine really, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, I think that there's a lot of merit to that.
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  Speaker 4: I have to go back and reread the x Wing
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  Speaker 4: novel because I no.
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  Speaker 1: I was just thinking that too. I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: should just go back and reread those.
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  Speaker 4: I could have sworn with them, pre dating the prequels
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  Speaker 4: at least to some extent. I have to go back
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  Speaker 4: and re explore the expression of Corescant back then, because
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  Speaker 4: I know that a lot of the visualization around Coroissant
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  Speaker 4: was not complete city planet. Like there's more natural life
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  Speaker 4: on Coroiscant in the EU of the nineties than there
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  Speaker 4: is in the Clone Wars or you know, even the
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  Speaker 4: prequel books. And I think that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: merit to the Emperor using the Jedi Temple as an
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  Speaker 4: administrative building, because what do you do when you have
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  Speaker 4: some sort of authoritarian regime takeover is they come in
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  Speaker 4: and they erase history. And so this would make even
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  Speaker 4: sense in terms of racing history where people if they say, oh, no,
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  Speaker 4: that was the you know, the Jedi Temple, Where was
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  Speaker 4: the Jedi Temple? That No, that's that's the Imperial you know, uh,
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  Speaker 4: city Hall or whatever that that that couldn't have been it.
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  Speaker 4: It had to be somewhere else, and suddenly nobody can
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  Speaker 4: remember where it was in terms of the Emperor living there.
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  Speaker 5: Though I love the idea and I but I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Latch onto it for one specific reason, and that's because
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  Speaker 4: I think it's even more heartless, even more soulless, to
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  Speaker 4: completely strip it of anything except a sterile bureaucratic function. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't even give it the dignity of hating it
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  Speaker 4: openly it's just a building. It's a it's it's just
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  Speaker 4: a stupid building that nobody likes.
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  Speaker 2: To go to.
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  Speaker 4: It's like the d m V on Corruson or something
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  Speaker 4: like that, right where it's like they suddenly turned it.
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  Speaker 1: Give you Okay, that's that's hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: I love that, And I think you know, and we
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  Speaker 4: can't put him. We can't put him underground because of course,
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  Speaker 4: like we all know that, in the original treatment for
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  Speaker 4: or the original development, I mean in pre production too,
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  Speaker 4: for Return of the Jedi, they had him in a
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  Speaker 4: lava field underneath the city and that's too Moostafar now,
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  Speaker 4: so we can't really cross over there. So let me
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  Speaker 4: ask you this question, did he live on Coroiscant at all?
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  Speaker 4: Because I have another idea, but I want to see
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  Speaker 4: I want to just throw the question at you. If
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  Speaker 4: he didn't live on Coroiscant, where would you have him live.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question because you don't get the
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  Speaker 1: sense that it would be like Naboo, right, that that
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  Speaker 1: feels that doesn't feel right for Palpatine. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: of course, you know Mustafar also isn't right for Palpatine.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's not going to be the place that he lives.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's that's the planet he kind of makes
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  Speaker 1: Vader live on to to you know, get him to
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  Speaker 1: over exercise the demons of that place. And so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, ah my gosh, where.
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  Speaker 2: See I know.
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  Speaker 4: But before you move forward, though, the Emperor living on
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  Speaker 4: Naboo makes sense because that is that's sticking a thumb
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  Speaker 4: in Vader's eye. You make Vader live on Moosafar where
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  Speaker 4: he gets totally messed up by his best friend. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: and then you live on Naboo where you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: look at this beautiful place that looks like the life
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  Speaker 4: you thought you could have had.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, but it's mine.
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  Speaker 4: Like that feels like a Sith type of thing to
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  Speaker 4: just give the middle finger to his own apprentice.
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  Speaker 1: See I I think you know, I hadn't thought of
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  Speaker 1: it that way, But you discussing it like that actually
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  Speaker 1: makes sense because it is kind of the double bird
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  Speaker 1: basically that he's being he's giving to Vader of like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm making you live on Mustafar basically, h like, I've
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  Speaker 1: given you that planet as if it's some like great
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  Speaker 1: thing to be given.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And but I live on the place that you know,
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  Speaker 1: your wife was from uh and so that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Oh what if he even lived in the lake house,
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  Speaker 1: Like what if that was his private residence?
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  Speaker 4: Right, that would be awesome, that would be freaking awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Even the Theberri family like comes to great misfortune and then.
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  Speaker 2: He just sees like, oh I got that, I got
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  Speaker 2: it in a steel.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's a you saying that. Does the Naberi family
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  Speaker 1: just disappear from history?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, oh god, yes, Oh there's no way. There's no
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  Speaker 4: way Palpatine lets them exist. No, there, they're they're a
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  Speaker 4: memory of better times. Like again, it may by disappearing
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  Speaker 4: people that are tied to people in the past, right
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  Speaker 4: as Stalin did it. You know, North Korea does it now,
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  Speaker 4: Like they disappear people so that when people are trying
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  Speaker 4: to remember what was happening, they can't anymore. They get
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  Speaker 4: them out of the records. But then additionally, it's a
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  Speaker 4: clear sign you step out of line. You don't even
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  Speaker 4: exist anymore, you will, history won't even consider you a footnote.
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  Speaker 5: You just you're not there. Like that's you know, creepy
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  Speaker 5: and terrible to begin with.
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  Speaker 4: But no, I mean you agree, I'm thinking I mean
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  Speaker 4: and the Beery's got to go right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, see, I kind of you know, when
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  Speaker 1: I asked the question, I was thinking, I just don't
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  Speaker 1: see I don't see them living, right, Like, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like Palpatine finds a way to take them out. And
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  Speaker 1: mainly it feels as though you don't want anybody who
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  Speaker 1: possibly could know the truth about Anakin and padme. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, even though you know it was not seen
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  Speaker 1: in the film, right we we did not see uh
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  Speaker 1: Anakin visit her family? Uh me too, me too, But
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  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that the possibility that that happened
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  Speaker 1: isn't there? Right that that that and especially too right
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  Speaker 1: in attack of the Clones. I can't imagine that her
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  Speaker 1: family doesn't know, uh you know that she is in danger,
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  Speaker 1: uh and that you know, it just feels as though
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  Speaker 1: they would have known a lot of those details, right,
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  Speaker 1: and they could have put more pieces together easily. And
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  Speaker 1: so no, I think you're absolutely right that Palpatine is
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  Speaker 1: not going to let them live. And again, this sticking
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  Speaker 1: the eye to Vader really is you know, the possibility
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  Speaker 1: of him living there, which I think you know is
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  Speaker 1: such a fascinating thing. I also, you know, I also
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  Speaker 1: have always wondered, you know, we tend to you know,
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  Speaker 1: in in and Or, actually we never saw Palpatine be
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  Speaker 1: in the Senate, but in in you know, in episode three, right,
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  Speaker 1: we saw that he has underneath the Senate, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he has his layer basically of the High Chancellor or
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  Speaker 1: of the Chancellor the Republic at that point. And that
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  Speaker 1: also makes me kind of wonder is it did then
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  Speaker 1: is the possibility that he expanded that under the rotunda
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  Speaker 1: and and and this gets into kind of a more
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  Speaker 1: esoteric thought. And the reason would be is because even
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  Speaker 1: though he's not necessarily seen in the Senate much, his
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  Speaker 1: ability to sway through the dark side the Senate and
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  Speaker 1: its dealings with him being underneath the Senate building allows
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  Speaker 1: him to be able to do something like that. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's subtly influencing senators throughout the force, which
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, to me seems like a plausibility
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  Speaker 1: and actually, you know, not out of the realm of
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  Speaker 1: possibility for somebody like Palpatine to want to do, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, he loves to control things.
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  Speaker 2: The idea has a lot of merit.
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  Speaker 4: I think that Palpatine atter a certain point doesn't need
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  Speaker 4: to exert the dark side on the Senate. It just happens,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if anything as well, and they definitely don't
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  Speaker 4: go this route in anything we've seen on screen, But
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  Speaker 4: in my brain, I think that Palpatine also eventually starts
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  Speaker 4: whittling down the Senate so that the number of people
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  Speaker 4: in that August body gets smaller and smaller, so that
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  Speaker 4: he can keep the power concentrated on a few key allies.
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  Speaker 4: And then with the people who aren't his allies, they
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  Speaker 4: realize they're in the even more precarious position of not
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  Speaker 4: stepping down, and so like the Senate, instead of being
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  Speaker 4: a thousand thousand worlds all giving voice and voting just
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  Speaker 4: over time, eventually comes down to a couple hundred where
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  Speaker 4: it's like they're regional senators instead of senators.
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  Speaker 5: From each planet.
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  Speaker 4: Right, that's represented because you know, streamlining and efficiency and
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  Speaker 4: we want to get things done quickly and everything like
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  Speaker 4: that is an easy sell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And.
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  Speaker 4: I want to throw a the idea out at you
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  Speaker 4: because I think your idea has a lot of merit.
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  Speaker 4: Also because then Palpatine can show up when he wants to.
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  Speaker 4: But we've seen on screen that when Palpatine does show up,
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  Speaker 4: it sort of takes people's breath away where they're like
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  Speaker 4: whoa whow hey, oh no.
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  Speaker 1: Like he did in that episode of The Bad Batch,
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  Speaker 1: right right, he's suddenly there, yeah, meaning he's not there,
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  Speaker 1: Like nobody's quite sure where he is.
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  Speaker 5: So when he shows up, it's like, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: I would throw this idea out there that maybe before
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  Speaker 4: the Second Death Star started getting built and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 4: if Palpatine lived on Endoor or the Moon of Endor,
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  Speaker 4: however you want to address it, where he just had
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  Speaker 4: something where like just think about it, like he's buried
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  Speaker 4: in a forest somewhere. It's almost like a perverted flip
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  Speaker 4: in a weird way of he's living on this lush,
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  Speaker 4: forested moon with giant trees, while Yoda's living in the dark,
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  Speaker 4: dank swamp. You know, when Yoda's the ultimate being of
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  Speaker 4: light and he's the ultimate being of darkness. And the
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  Speaker 4: way that they mask themselves is they live among a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the living force, but masked by stuff that
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  Speaker 4: isn't them. Yeah, that's sort of the antithesis of them.
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  Speaker 4: Yoda's in a tough place with monsters, and Palpatine is
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  Speaker 4: in this beautiful place with nature and harmony, and that's
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  Speaker 4: just complete antithesis of him making him harder to sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean again, that's one of those things
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  Speaker 1: where I mean it actually does make a lot of sense,
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  Speaker 1: the idea of you know, him being in a place
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  Speaker 1: like that. Plus I think when you think about it,
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  Speaker 1: it's a really unexpected place, right to find Palpatine. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and and so him having some sort of place there
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  Speaker 1: makes sense, you know. Also, I mean it's cannon, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So we know that he had these repositories all over
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  Speaker 1: and so in some ways, you know, he had one
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  Speaker 1: on Jackku, and he had one in other places. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we learned through the extended universe that's been created now
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  Speaker 1: through Disney.
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  Speaker 4: So let's let's bring somebody to speed who may or
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  Speaker 4: may not be on the other microphone right now, Uh,
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  Speaker 4: clue them in on this repositories thing, or jog his
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  Speaker 4: memory because he might have forgotten what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, especially it's in the Aftermath books and
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  Speaker 1: it's in other books that have come out as that
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  Speaker 1: the Emperor had had places, uh secret places around the
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  Speaker 1: galaxy where he had stored information. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess now it even makes slightly more sense in
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  Speaker 1: light of Ahsoka, right when we know that there's a
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  Speaker 1: whole other universe and so uh and and in some
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  Speaker 1: ways kind of keeping watch on what might come outside
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  Speaker 1: the universe, uh and places for him to keep you know.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I remember now, I remember what you talked about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: So uh and and and and that that's also a
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  Speaker 1: place too where again uh. You know the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he has all these areas set up, it makes sense
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  Speaker 1: then for him to to you know, he doesn't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: live in just one place. He can kind of bounce
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  Speaker 1: from place to place yea uh and and which would
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  Speaker 1: also make sense that you know, when he's not on
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  Speaker 1: course ont uh that you know, he would not be
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  Speaker 1: readily he would not be easily found, right Like you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily know where he was, because he kind of
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  Speaker 1: bounces from location to location. And so that that's also
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  Speaker 1: another thing when you think about where he might live.
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  Speaker 1: You know that he had definitely plenty of places in
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  Speaker 1: the galaxy where he could have gone.
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  Speaker 2: See.
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  Speaker 4: See, I really plug into that idea that the Emperor
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  Speaker 4: is constantly on the go, and not just because he
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  Speaker 4: wants to be hard to find, but because he's also
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  Speaker 4: constantly seeking these artifacts and talismans of power that will
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  Speaker 4: enhance his dark side connections and additionally going.
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  Speaker 2: Out there.
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  Speaker 4: Because he has all of these different places investigating ways
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  Speaker 4: to keep him alive, to cheat death rightly and so,
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  Speaker 4: and he's hiding them from Vader too. And so he's
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  Speaker 4: got there thing where it's like, you know, left hand
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  Speaker 4: never knows what the right hand is doing. And he's
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  Speaker 4: got all of these things where it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he goes, you know to you know, he goes to
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  Speaker 4: Tan and it's like, oh.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, this is a really cool idea. That's really good.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that didn't work out. Well, it's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: I had this other idea over here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna fly over there really quick, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to check that out and just have these competing
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  Speaker 4: dark laboratories perverting science and nature right to his to
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  Speaker 4: his ends.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I mean, you know, whether we like it
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  Speaker 1: or not, as well, it's pretty clear that Exagal is
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: also a place that you would would be able to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: find Palpatine every once in a while, I'm sure. And
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: it being a place that is very difficult to get
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  Speaker 1: to and very hidden, you know, also makes sense for
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it being a great location for him, I don't. I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: don't think of that as being his main place of residence.
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  Speaker 2: Really more of a vacation home.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I mean, it's just all about it all.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: It's all about the views. And you know, clones of
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: oneself that are hideous. I mean, can you ask for
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: better views?
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  Speaker 4: You know, honestly, if I made a giant vats of
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: hideous clones of myself, I would be too tempted to
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: form some sort of perverted boy band sort of thing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: And just you know, I mean, why not embrace it?
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Just go ahead, and it's like there are five of
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: me and we're like the in sync of the Star
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Wars Galaxy. But if anybody boos us or doesn't buy
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: our album, I can shoot forced lightning. Yeah at any
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 5: You're deserving at that point.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, you just you gotta want it. That's
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the real trick. You gotta want it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: But I think that moving around idea is really slick.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: But I like, I still think a permanent like the
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: place where he receives people. I don't think, and I
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: know this flies in the face of any sort of
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: idea of canon. I just think it's not on Coorissant.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: That's the one thing is I don't think the Emperor
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: lives on Chorissant because it's too.
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  Speaker 2: Obvious, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: And by being off of Coruissant, but never like he doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying he announces that. I'm saying, like, very
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: few people know he doesn't live there.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, And I was just thinking, like, Vader has
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the Executor, right, and so we've seen his ship, but
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: have we ever seen the Emperorship other than the one
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: that he flies in, you know, which is really just
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: a hyperspace shuttle, you know, and so like, have we
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: ever I don't feel like we ever saw a vehicle,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and so it makes me wonder, then is there a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: ship then that the Emperor has? You know, obviously he's
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: doing all this traveling, but I mean, is this like
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a top secret super secret ship that like we've never
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: seen in Star Wars, which now we all need to
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: see because uh, you know, it was the Infor's personal ride.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I would argue that we did see the Emperor's personal
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: ride and it was called a death Star. Unfortunately they
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: both got totaled, so you know, which of course makes me,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: well it just makes me think of robot chickens exactly,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: That's what I think.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't even paid off.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: We'll just go to my credit I didn't pay this
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: thing off yet.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Oh just build another one where we got the money
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: for that atm on that torso light fright of you.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I just immediately go right into that phone call.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I can't help it. I can't help it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: What an absolutely It just makes me think of the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: triumphant comic dog, you know, or he's like talking to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the guy who's gonna Vader thing. Is this the button
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I pressed to call your mommy to come pick you up?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Oh, thank goodness for the Internet keeping
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: these bits alive for all time. Just back with people
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: had senses of humor about themselves. What a magical time
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: we lived through. How I miss it? But what I
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: don't miss Matt is harassing you online, which is something
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I think that everybody else should do because it's a fun,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: fun thing. So where can people find you out there online?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, so all over social media. If I'm on
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the platform, you will find my name under the Matt
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Rushing zero two. Of course, here on the network, I've
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: got a completed show called Owl Posts I did with
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Dray Kaufman as we talked about every single chapter of
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the Harry Potter series, one chapter time and then over
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: on the TFM network. Of course, you'll find me on
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the six or two Club, where John is a frequent guest,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: talking about Star Wars and all of those other fandoms
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that we love, as well as quite a few shows
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: talking to my good friend Chris Jones about Star Trek.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So check all of that out. But John, if you
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: know people have an idea of where they think Palpatine
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: lived and they wanted to share it with you, where would.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: They find you, Well, you can find me on your
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: social network of choice as Kessel Junkie kes s E
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: l j U n K, you know, Letterboxes, where I
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: have the most fun because I watch a lot of movies.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: And speaking of watching a lot of movies, I'm also
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: co hosting a show here on the network called House
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Lights with Tristan Model and Darren Moser, where I weekly
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: remind them of why my movie reviews are the best
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: ones and that everybody should agree with them. Although Tristan
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: will have his car catch on fire at some point
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: in the near future, I'm not saying to me saying
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: it will eventually happen. And of course, since you talked
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: about Star Trek when I'm offline, I've gone so far
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: as to get my youngest padawan to watch the animated
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: series of Star Trek on the strength of the fact
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: that she loves the Clone Wars and it has opened
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: up her mind to franchise animation. So let that be
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: a note everybody that the Clone Wars has even helped
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: make somebody else a Star Trek fan. How crazy is
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: that while you chew on that, I will be chewing
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: on a Banfa steak in the cafeteria at the Jedi Temple.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: And I believe I just heard the lunch bell ring.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: So Master Rushing, I think it's time to close these negotiations, John,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: negotiations are closed.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Join the Revolution, Join the Nerd Party.