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Episode 1672 - Fighting For Veteran's Rights · Drinkin‘ Bros Podcast

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it would work.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, Anthony, who do we got here today besides Zeus?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, well, we have VetClaims.ai.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been talking about it a little bit lately.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've seen us posted on social media about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Lucas is the founder.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, um, what we're going to discuss today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: is some of the just goofy nonsense surrounding the I guess the the non-profit service industry for veterans of course we've I mean look anybody that's followed anybody that was part of the geawatt knows how
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[SPEAKER_03]: fucking weird it's gotten how it's how weird it was always actually I guess right I mean you everybody remembers wounded warrior projects and how they turned their charity into a lavish lifestyle program for themselves which is what most charities do frankly my opinion yeah
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[SPEAKER_03]: my personal opinion on this and I understand why some people in the space, especially those who have some kind of monetary reason to do so, doesn't don't like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand that, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you've got a position on it, but it's been my position as a conservative man that I would rather pay for excellence rather than get socialized bullshit, which is why I don't go to the VA in the first place, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but yeah, that's always been my opinion, which is why I agree to have
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and so we'll start with you because I've been seeing your videos.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You've called out a million people here from non-profits.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've been following your social media and it's been very, very fun to watch, but you were also serious when you said, hey, come on, drinking bros.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Debate me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me what you're making.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me what you're actually doing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And tell me how you're actually trying to help veterans, but no one agreed to come.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no responses.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just the board meetings, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: People talking about us in their board meetings, DAV, VFW saying, how do we get rid of this guy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do we silence him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: When in reality, my goal isn't to abolish him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My goal is to drive accountability and open the reality of what's actually going on, which is them,
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to use technology that existed in 1980 to help veterans today, and that's the primary driver as to their in efficacy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when you dig deeper, you go into their executive salaries, you go into what they're doing with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They spend more money on paying fundraising consultants and they do on getting veterans taken care of for malpractice, getting veterans new homes, getting veterans out of homelessness.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's essentially NGOs, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you say silence, do you mean somebody's trying to pay you off or somebody's threatened you or sent a threatening email and they're the most recent one other than just the back room like PR campaigns that these assholes run and that's my word not his.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've also gone after his payment processor and stuff like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a classic move of globalist state cons, frankly, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what they do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's what they did with the trucker convoi thing during COVID.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They went after, they tried to seize people's money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They did it for various other political activities or social activities.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They disagree with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They tried to go after people's payment processing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Pay or what is it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go fund me like what ate accounts all sorts of stuff right all sorts of just nonsense that has nothing to do with the actual issue itself Which is that Veterans need a service.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's being provided in a very shitty way that's that's almost like intentional obsolescence in my opinion Right because they're using technology from the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It cannot keep up with what we're doing now and why would you when we have a new technology and
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[SPEAKER_03]: their argument is veteran shouldn't have to pay for this right better and shouldn't have to pay for the what does that mean what do you mean what do you mean shit yeah this used the free shitty government stuff yeah use the use the approved government stuff and under what conditions do veterans who are almost entirely conservative people right agreed to that bullshit slop no they don't is the is the answer to it right they don't agree to it only officers and above
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it gets crazier too, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we peel back veteran suicide statistics, VA right now says 17 a day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that numbers low, everybody else thinks that numbers low.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of that 17 a day, more than half of them are not connected to VA services.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, then we ask ourselves, why?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's a crazy fact, right, veterans are the only federal claimant who have to fail first before they can seek professional help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That means imagine you had to get your income taxes denied by the IRS, incur the fees and penalties, miss out on whatever returns you could have got before you could even go to Turbo Tax.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is the reality for veterans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're tied.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This isn't, uh,
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[SPEAKER_03]: just time and money that you might lose, it's your actual health, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your health that was damaged by your service.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The benefits, yeah, it's the actual coverage and access to educational benefits as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's start with wounded warrior.
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[SPEAKER_04]: wounded warrior was the first one that I saw that was actually being promoted on television with commercials.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was
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[SPEAKER_04]: what's called every eight minutes on Fox old day long right there was a dog there was you know uh... somebody in a wheelchair and all this other stuff now i uh... just being a normal american citizen looked at that and said holy shit they're actually trying to do some good for the world yeah what was the issue with the with the company like that for example
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[SPEAKER_02]: So with wounded warrior, you know, I think when it comes to helping with claims and doing whatever, they've changed their act up quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But my favorite anecdotal experience is one that actually significantly affected my life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when I finally did get my benefits and I did start going to college, I...
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[SPEAKER_02]: was out of 7,000 people selected to be my states, congressional intern in Nebraska.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was poor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was living in a double-wide trailer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a Purple Heart recipient, a wounded combat that I was 21 years old at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Had just gotten out of homelessness the point where I could get that double-wide trailer and go to school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I call a wounded warrior project.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, hey, I'm a wounded warrior.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need like, can you guys help me get like five Joe's feedback suits, which like, what's it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like 700 bucks, maybe?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know who could and was Gary Sinese.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got one of those suits from Gary Sinese.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Gary Sinese Foundation did this from 2000.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 10 until 2015, never got any credit for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He had a partnership with specifically with Joseph.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, is that true story?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do remember that being announced.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I called them and I was like, I just need five suits.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And is there like a couch I can crash on in DC because the DC's expensive to live in?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like in a double wide trailer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, oh, let us take that up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they took it up to whatever level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they called me back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mind you, their headquarters is in DC.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When were you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they said, no, we don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't do what specifically.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Any of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: any of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You had what was your response to that fuck you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like and I mean it's been that way to this day I've had interactions with their leadership and I'm like you guys might have changed but fuck you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that that was ever in your ethos, the fact that that ever existed in your program, the non-sat, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that same fact pattern applies across all these non-profits.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this I don't say this to like flex on myself, but being in the position I'm in my company
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[SPEAKER_02]: minimum, like phone call-wise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not counting digital spread.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We get all these people and how Zeus and I actually started working together was a veteran that we mutually knew told me about the VA committing malpractice on him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fractures heal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They put seven screws through one of them punctured into like where the nerve channel is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The surgeon was like, well, you know, keep doing physical therapy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and good luck.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and they refuse to give him copies of the text somebody to lie down because they got bedstores.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And mine, you know, this guy's like the white David Goggins, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like unfortunately, I got really great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, look, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look, David Goggins is what David Goggins would do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he calls me, because he knows I'm doing the DC advocacy thing and I'm talking to the VA and I'm like, this isn't sane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But within like four hours, we got on a phone call, got the former team surgeon from the USC Trojans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to you to agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we got him there, he would do the surgery for free.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get the screws out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Luke had to keep his leg elevated, and so what did I do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got him a private jet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I called him, we had brunch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, cool, I need you to book it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two days later, we're on a jet out to California.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get the surgery done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, yeah, the IRS is gonna hit me for whatever that cost, 200K.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These companies have, like, D-A-V has something like 140 million dollars in net assets, and that's not counting, like real estate and other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just from like an old 990.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and that they're not deploying the money to help that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so with your 200K for this experience, how do you come up with that in the first place?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so my company, our, how that claims work is we have a flat fee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, what exists currently in the world is you can go to the free non-profit VSO type people in a courthouse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have no technology, no training, you're going to get 30 minutes with them and it's going to take three months to schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to only write down what you say is wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to help you understand what you should be actually claiming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because a lot of veterans were tough and were hard-headed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to necessarily be able to attribute everything to service.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to say, well, that's part of just me getting older.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When in reality, no, dude, your knees aren't bad because your older your knees are back so you're the fucking pair trooper, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the free option, then you have these lawyers, and the lawyers will take anywhere from 20 to 33.5, 33 and 1.3% of your back pay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that can be anywhere from $6,000 to $50,000 depending on the back pay and the claim that you have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we charge $1250, flat fee, there's no upsells, there's no other stuff, and we have a money back guarantee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if we can't help you get the rating you deserve, you actually get your money back plus 500 bucks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now that's how I, that's our revenue mechanism.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's the obvious question here that I'm sure the audience is thinking about right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you take a salary?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's a thought profit company.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you were a for profit company.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And everybody else is pitching themselves as a non profit company.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, even though the DAV CEO generates less revenue than me and gets paid far more.
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[SPEAKER_03]: God, it got him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is the DAV seal make?
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[SPEAKER_03]: $656,000 per year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you serious?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Plus private travel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are they hiring?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Dan, I love you, but I'll walk away right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, Dan, I can do a hell of a job marketing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it is wild.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is wild.
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[SPEAKER_02]: God, damn it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, for the other talking point, though, is they don't want veterans to have a choice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my favorite part of this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, look, let's go down this rabbit hole today.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it starts with wounded warrior.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then did you start investigating all the rest of them?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Or did you go to them, genuinely needing help?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I went to, uh, no, for, for that opportunity to decede now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, the warrior strongly along saying they're going to escalate it, and when they said, finally, we don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had like two days left to tell the congressman that I couldn't do it, so I just didn't get to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it broke my fucking heart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The irony is now I'm walking up, up and down Capitol Hill all the time, and I'm running into these people and silly hats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, huh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder, how many veterans you could be bringing with you instead of taking a salary to just show up and make yourself look so important.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, Zuz, how did you get involved?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was doing a, I got a phone call from Brandon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hit it up or hair wrap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I got a call from Brandeys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a buddy of all of ours, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he asked me to do a campaign rally there in Holotis right outside San Antonio and so I showed up to do a few songs
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as I came off stage, I bumped into Luke and he was like, oh, man, my wife asked, she's going to be so jealous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like we came out to your film premiere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess two years prior with Black Rifle that we did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Texas tornado video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we
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[SPEAKER_01]: Took a picture, talked a little bit, and then went on our way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the next morning, my butt, our buddy Luke, who had been in agony for months, like I couldn't even get him out of the house for like a beer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He called me that morning, he was like, hey, let's go get breakfast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, fuck, he's in a, he's out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To get out, I'll come.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I came up for breakfast, and then Luke was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: man, we just started talking about his ankle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had mentioned that he had a plan to get it, you know, looked at and taken care of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, whatever I can do to help, I'd love to, you know, take that pain away, however we could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's like, all right, we'll fly out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, all right, well, let me know what airline or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll book my flight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, now we're,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to make sure it's legs elevated, so I really liked that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we were wheels up the next day, and I got to learn a lot about this mission and how he's taking care of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as veterans, we kind of know like everywhere you turn, there's organizations out there asking for money, and I don't know where it goes, I don't know where it goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure there's a bunch doing great things, but I got to witness what he does behind the curtains, that no one will ever hear about, like I witnessed him, like just changing lives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I said, man, anything I could do to help you, like if I can connect you with people or like doing music, entertainment, being one of the greatest the honorepers of all time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I met a lot of really cool people even you guys included.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys were the first one of the first calls I made when we were out in Atlanta talking about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like let me make a phone call Called Dan and I told them about the problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We ran into and Dan just like
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're describes describing Dan as somebody else like did he just looks like he's trying not to murder someone when you're talking Um, I didn't think Dan hated me the first time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I was like no, that's his permanent face Yeah, he's like permanent murder face Rusting murder face and he's like he's like looking in the zoom cameras like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love this a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was like, is she like, see that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I told you he likes you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's how it all kind of kicked off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's what I don't like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like socialist bullshit, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like this idea that somebody knows better about my life than fucking I do, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that I have to dump money into some pool of resources, 175 million a year that just DAV takes in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to pay their CEO 600 grand so that you and I can drive by their fucking headquarters in Virginia and see a fleet of brand new wrapped vehicles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's that for?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's fucking fundraising is what that's for.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would rather take $1,250 bucks in my own money, which by the way, you can split up over time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you need to, it's not that big of deal, or you can reach out to me and one of the organizations I work with will fund it for you, Motherfucker, and you can get what you are entitled to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: instead of having to deal with socialism, which is what that shit is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like that.
17:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, there's a place, a time and a place for charity, but to get you money is not one of those times of places.
17:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's be real about that, especially not when it's money that you're entitled to and they provide a service that's not on par with the for-profit service.
17:24
[SPEAKER_03]: The point of it all is not for it to be free.
17:26
[SPEAKER_03]: It's for it to be good, okay?
17:29
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see.
17:30
[SPEAKER_04]: And with the rap vehicle thing, it's funny you say that, like,
17:32
[SPEAKER_04]: You remember us driving by that and I'm you didn't know what it was.
17:35
[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't know what it was and I'm pointing at I'm like what the fuck is that?
17:39
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's half a million dollars worth of vehicles plus the wraps on all of them.
17:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Why for what purpose?
17:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't forget.
17:45
[SPEAKER_03]: It's free.
17:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah Exactly and free.
17:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't honestly we have a wrap truck for hearty f-celtzer.
17:52
[SPEAKER_04]: We were making a profits We were advertising the company and we're trying to get people to drink it, right?
17:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Why the fuck are you, I, I didn't even think about that.
17:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Why would you be wrapping vehicles for a nonprofit organization?
18:03
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't make any sense to me.
18:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Just burn the money.
18:05
[SPEAKER_02]: They're whole thing.
18:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So DTV is the best at marketing in the sector, right?
18:09
[SPEAKER_02]: When it were used to be until like a pp slap for stealing money and making their own people too rich.
18:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That, D.A.V.
18:15
[SPEAKER_02]: is now the best at marketing and then to your point, Ross, like what they're doing is they want that presence all around D.A.V.
18:21
[SPEAKER_02]: They want it all around the DMV area.
18:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Anytime they're driving veterans to and from a hospital or whatever, those are those wrapped vehicles to.
18:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like that whole, that whole thing is, it's their propaganda mission to be where the most present.
18:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We're everywhere.
18:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the Starbucks model.
18:37
[SPEAKER_04]: You should you should look and we're trying to do it, but we're not.
18:40
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not not not not profit.
18:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, like this is crazy.
18:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if the federal government gave heart AF, you know, a couple, a couple million dollars in grants every year to do whatever with that might be a different question.
18:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that government money shouldn't go to a radical sure, but the government's not paying you.
18:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, government, if you'd like to sponsor a seltzer.
18:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Hard enough.
18:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
18:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
19:00
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, we didn't pay for the rap vehicle here.
19:02
[SPEAKER_04]: That was one day, rap stuff.
19:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't tell you.
19:05
[SPEAKER_03]: He'd give it to us.
19:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't take money from the government for my business.
19:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And I would shut the business down and burn my own home down before I would do that.
19:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Just to be clear, they hit us up every week during COVID.
19:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you want some money for you?
19:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Want some money?
19:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you.
19:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Out of way, P.P.
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19:48
[SPEAKER_02]: My favorite thing about the PPP loans was that they were the most efficient way to get a supercar during COVID.
19:53
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was tracking.
19:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really?
19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: No, what they were for?
19:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Who knows?
19:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Hi.
19:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Not that was what they were.
19:59
[SPEAKER_04]: That whole period is a goddamn blur, thankfully.
20:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And when you watch the documentary, let me see somebody with a mask on, you're like, oh my God, we went through that.
20:07
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was fucking awful.
20:08
[SPEAKER_02]: That was what it was.
20:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It's two point though on fraud in this sector.
20:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
20:14
[SPEAKER_02]: frauds an interesting way to frame it, but what I do think is going to come out, right, is we have the DAV, we have the VFW, we have the American Legion.
20:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, why do they exist and why are they guarantee to see at every house and senate Veterans Affairs Committee meeting?
20:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they have a congressional charter.
20:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, here's the interesting part.
20:33
[SPEAKER_02]: That congressional charter existed because these organizations were the clear cut decisive, decisive representatives of
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: The DV, VFW, and American Legion have been hemorrhaging membership like they lost both legs and their dick.
20:48
[SPEAKER_02]: They definitely lost their dick.
20:50
[SPEAKER_02]: But they are a hemorrhaging membership, VFW can't even bounce a fucking checkbook, right?
20:55
[SPEAKER_02]: They had a negative 5 million balance in 2023.
21:00
[SPEAKER_02]: They're no longer representative of what veterans want.
21:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a seat in every committee meeting regarding veteran policy, right?
21:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But right now, we have Congress saying, hey, we're going to rob future veterans to pay for current veterans.
21:14
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the policy that's gotten to a floor vote at this point.
21:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And everybody's like, oh, yeah, VFW is fighting for us.
21:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And no, they're not.
21:23
[SPEAKER_02]: They're weaponized in competence as the reason this conversation even got here.
21:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You know?
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
21:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I think most civilians don't understand it unless you're around veterans who are actually going through it.
21:35
[SPEAKER_04]: My first experience was with a good buddy of ours, Derek Whitea.
21:39
[SPEAKER_04]: We had to interview, I think it was the president and the announcer of the Vegas Golden Knights, and then they gave us free Stanley Cup tickets, which was awesome.
21:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Why knew Derek lived in Vegas and said, hey buddy, I got an extra ticket.
21:48
[SPEAKER_04]: You want to comment on your huge fan, he's like, hell yeah.
21:51
[SPEAKER_04]: We got a prosthetic leg, so walking in, he goes, hey, I'm going to be a little bit late.
21:57
[SPEAKER_04]: This leg doesn't fit right.
21:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going through this with a VA.
22:00
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been going on for four years, and I go, when are you supposed to get the actual one that fits?
22:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
22:06
[SPEAKER_04]: And it goes, man, they're saying hopefully six to 12 months.
22:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Jesus.
22:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And I got,
22:10
[SPEAKER_04]: another year and everything else but cut to the end of the game we're fine and he'd gone up to the restroom once said that's about all I can do with the stairs and everything else and as we're leaving the stadium and he goes I had to ask you this man but can you help me?
22:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you, you know, and I was like, oh, yeah, of course.
22:28
[SPEAKER_04]: And, and he goes, no, no, no, can you help me like all the way outside into a cab and I go, yeah, dude.
22:33
[SPEAKER_04]: You want to my friends?
22:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Why wouldn't I?
22:35
[SPEAKER_04]: And I go, is it that bad?
22:36
[SPEAKER_04]: And he goes, it's that bad.
22:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And he goes a lot of veterans are walking around on these prosthetics that don't fit.
22:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
22:43
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's making it worse.
22:44
[SPEAKER_04]: It's making the problem worse.
22:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
22:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
22:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, over and over again, and I was like, holy shit.
22:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait until you hear about, uh, the non-competes that when a prostitution works for the government, then they take a job in the private sector, they're no longer allowed to help anybody on the other side of the aisle.
22:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
22:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
22:59
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
23:00
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a thing.
23:00
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the pharmaceutical industry or the medical industry.
23:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I believe.
23:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
23:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And they couldn't volunteer their services, for example, to a nonprofit should when exist.
23:10
[SPEAKER_03]: to get prosthetics for these guys.
23:12
[SPEAKER_03]: They cost about 85 grand, it takes somewhere around eight to 12 months to get, by the way.
23:16
[SPEAKER_02]: That is insane and I don't know Derek personally, but I was going through mental struggles in my own life and I followed him on Instagram and he was a massive, massive fucking inspiration.
23:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So shout out to you, man.
23:30
[SPEAKER_02]: But I remember watching this and I look back on it now with more understanding with the prosthetic thing.
23:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember working out for him was like,
23:37
[SPEAKER_02]: his that was his then that was his like mental health thing that's what he preached that's that's what helped me and I remember him making videos about how that prosthesis I keep showed his nub how it was all cut up all fucked up and I'm like you're you're taking away like maybe the one thing
23:53
[SPEAKER_02]: The one thing that can keep this guy together, that can get him on a path to healing, to calming down, to getting through what he's obviously been through.
24:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's more than just a physical pain.
24:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It is, this is affecting every single segment of a veteran's life when we have this weaponized fucking incompetence going on.
24:09
[SPEAKER_04]: In your Washington workouts, I'm talking about just exiting the stadium.
24:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exhing it like one of the your dream bucket list events right and you need help getting in and out of the fucking seat dude and it's sucked and it's sucked watching it as a friend and Until you actually sit down with somebody like that, uh, you know, a wounded veteran you don't know.
24:30
[SPEAKER_03]: you just think all right cool I saw the commercial I saw Toby Keith right I saw the dog I saw the fucking thing and everybody's happy and veterans are getting taken care of no they're not and it's still going on I think even I think even more so than how oblivious the civilian community is to it we're almost numb to it because so many of our friends are fucked up just like ah that sucks
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[SPEAKER_04]: There is days when I don't have it Luke.
30:47
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the VA. That's been the hardest part
30:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess making myself through, I present like that's a weird feeling like no one voted for me.
30:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But here I am, people voted for my company with their dollars, right?
31:01
[SPEAKER_02]: We've grown to be America's fastest growing tech and able service company.
31:05
[SPEAKER_02]: 22 months ago I started this, as of today, we've created over 400 veteran jobs.
31:10
[SPEAKER_02]: We help over 8,000 veterans a month go through our system.
31:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And with that, I guess that's my mandate, right?
31:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's...
31:19
[SPEAKER_02]: where I've gone with that is getting these veterans who are disenfranchised to realize that like, we do have a voice, I will spend my own money and I will go to Capitol Hill every month and I will fight for you.
31:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's the part that I get attacked online all the time.
31:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had like seven hit pieces funded by the opposition already.
31:38
[SPEAKER_02]: As Dan mentioned, they try to get our payment processor.
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: One of my favorite things, I'll actually give them a shout out here, my lawyers might not love this.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But, here we go.
31:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the military influencer conference you guys familiar with that.
31:49
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
31:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's essentially a pretty big, it's the biggest military influencer gathering in America, right?
31:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really good.
31:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Pull it up, Luke.
31:58
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good idea.
31:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And so the mix, right?
32:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've been doing this military spouse fest thing with them.
32:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
32:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I see.
32:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Where we go out.
32:06
[SPEAKER_04]: You were saying a bunch of people with it, yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So we go out to all the bases.
32:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've been given like keynote speeches at all these events on my own dollar.
32:14
[SPEAKER_02]: People are trying to pay me $30,000, $40,000 come speak.
32:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And I say, no, no, no, no, I'm going to come speak at this.
32:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I do that, and then the absolute craziness.
32:23
[SPEAKER_02]: We were supposed to be the sponsor of the Mick, military influencer Gala thing, right?
32:28
[SPEAKER_02]: We paid big money for brand exclusivity.
32:30
[SPEAKER_02]: We paid big money to category exclusivity and the sponsor of this Gala thing, these awards.
32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: They call me last week, and they say, well, we got an email, and it went to us.
32:44
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a board meeting.
32:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And we just think, this is two contentious.
32:48
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want you there.
32:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, okay, I want a full fucking refund.
32:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, oh, well, you can keep doing the military.
32:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Spousefest, things where you go engage on the basis.
32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not this one.
32:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, you fucking cowards, are you kidding me?
33:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to represent military influencers, but the fight for veterans rights, the fight for veterans to have a choice.
33:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You think it's two contentious of a subject matter for you?
33:10
[SPEAKER_02]: absolutely insane.
33:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they have the audacity to send me a release offer with a mutual non disparagement clause.
33:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, you, you, by removing us from this, have disparages us.
33:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So here you go, Mick.
33:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And is this still going on over here?
33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: and hopefully not for much longer.
33:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
33:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And what's crazy is this is the company, this is what's crazy.
33:35
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the company that owns task in purpose.
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: This is it's all recurrent, right?
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So the current owns task in purpose, they own, we are the mighty, all these things.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And they think that veterans having a right to choose who helps them access their benefits is too contentious.
33:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It is the most insane thing to me, the cowardice that we're seeing.
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And so in this battle, right, like, and when I say right to choose, this is where I get, like, really passionate.
34:04
[SPEAKER_02]: What DAV-VFW, the American Legion, all these law firms, and apparently the Mick are now saying, is that the men and women who we entrust to jump out of airplanes maintain $1 billion aircraft, go to combat, fight for this country, run intelligence operations.
34:21
[SPEAKER_02]: They are too stupid, right?
34:23
[SPEAKER_02]: They all think that veterans are too incapable to make it a financial decision of $1,200.
34:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's insane.
34:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the most
34:32
[SPEAKER_02]: That is why I'm on this fight.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: There's 8,000 vets a month that say, we don't want the free shit, we want the good shit, we want the right shit.
34:39
[SPEAKER_04]: It's essentially Obamacare, right?
34:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, hey, you can do this, or you can go get your own ends, but they won't let you.
34:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is, this is, this is,
34:51
[SPEAKER_03]: If you think about it in a holistic way, I know very few veterans who use the VA and any capacity because of its incompetence.
35:01
[SPEAKER_03]: They just let another guy die last week, wait and in line.
35:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's be real, right?
35:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
35:05
[SPEAKER_03]: At no point in my adult life, have they been competent?
35:09
[SPEAKER_03]: in any meaningful sense.
35:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Now there are pockets, there are places that are good, right?
35:13
[SPEAKER_03]: But the organization as a whole is clearly not.
35:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think you can show that demonstrably, but everybody knows it anecdotally because they've experienced this in confidence.
35:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Know what I know uses it.
35:23
[SPEAKER_03]: They're all going to private services already and paying for it out of their own fucking pockets.
35:28
[SPEAKER_03]: So what's the difference?
35:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if I stop going to the VA because it sucks and start going to a private doctor, am I stupid for doing that?
35:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you.
35:38
[SPEAKER_03]: How about that?
35:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just it's hard to fathom and I got to ask the question.
35:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you ever call the head of the VA circuit?
35:47
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the same?
35:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Doug?
35:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been trying to get a meeting with Doug Collins for the better half of a year.
35:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And admittedly to his credit, right?
35:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not in the Bash Mr. Collins boat as of right now.
36:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not.
36:01
[SPEAKER_02]: He, they've lowered the backlog.
36:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They've sped up claims processing to a place where it's faster than it's ever been in American history.
36:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And they've done great things on the things that they've prioritized.
36:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That part, yeah, the claims process.
36:12
[SPEAKER_02]: There's parts that have been prioritized yet, which,
36:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the intake process, right?
36:18
[SPEAKER_02]: The speed to lead, that's the big thing.
36:21
[SPEAKER_02]: If I boil this down, I have two big missions that I would convey to Secretary Collins, right?
36:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Number one, I think the fastest, most effective way for us to reduce veteran suicide is by ensuring they're not homeless when they get out, right?
36:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I got out as a purple heart recipient.
36:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I left Fort Brag spent my last dollars getting my little Ford Mustang from Fort Brag North Carolina up to Nebraska.
36:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I then had to live in that car and tell I figured out how to get a job, right, which I was a Calvary Scout as a recon guy.
36:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's qualified to be a combat janitor.
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: getting people to have those benefits when they get out in a timely effective manner, that's number one, and the free shit's not cutting it.
36:56
[SPEAKER_02]: The second piece of this, right, is getting veterans to a place of stability so they can take bets on themselves.
37:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You've engaged with tons of successful vets who've done really cool stuff over your career.
37:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Their lives, if you go to all of them and you say, when did your life like, when did you really see like a tempo change?
37:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I guarantee you can pinpoint it to a time where they took a bet on themselves.
37:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is nanny-state bullshit, right, is what you're pointing to, and it's something that we discovered in the, let's say, 1803 to 1810 period American history.
37:24
[SPEAKER_03]: There was this prevailing theory by the Federalists, right?
37:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Adam's Hamilton, et cetera, who thought, and this sounds fucked up now, but at the time they thought, poor people need to stay poor because that's what makes them work hard.
37:37
[SPEAKER_03]: But as it turns out as they moved west and started prospecting and spending their money to make money, right?
37:47
[SPEAKER_03]: working a larger piece of land, which means they had excess, which means they sold instead of just using all the stuff they made, they sold their access to their neighbors, everybody started working harder as it turns out when you can apply your own labor to the earth, which is kind of the thing our governments found it on, frankly.
38:04
[SPEAKER_03]: then everybody works a little bit higher.
38:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody becomes a little more productive and every tide lifts every boat.
38:10
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how it works.
38:11
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fundamentally speaking, that's how our economy is designed to work.
38:15
[SPEAKER_03]: And when you try to segment out a portion of the population to control that portion of the population, separate but the equal is never equal.
38:24
[SPEAKER_03]: We've established this, right?
38:25
[SPEAKER_03]: And having a separate system for veterans that can only be managed by the government is fucked.
38:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Not only ask you this, with the government, are they actually hiring veterans to process these claims?
38:36
[SPEAKER_02]: That gets really interesting.
38:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So, no.
38:40
[SPEAKER_04]: The majority would be the easiest.
38:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, because the context in the understanding is critical.
38:46
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a big part of the success of my company is the veterans understand what you're talking about.
38:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I can give some really interesting examples later, but the VA Raiders are not bad people, but they are not veterans.
38:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And so the problem that exists is
38:58
[SPEAKER_02]: The status quo is submitting a claim with these things on it, these issues.
39:02
[SPEAKER_02]: But the substantiation is completely missing, and these raiders don't have the utility, the time, or the capability, or probably even the permission to go connect the dots for you.
39:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're not bad people, they're just doing their job, and they don't have the context to connect those dots.
39:15
[SPEAKER_02]: The other side of this, right?
39:17
[SPEAKER_02]: is accreditation, which this is what I'd really like to talk to you guys about.
39:21
[SPEAKER_03]: This is how the state at large uses regulation to gatekeep.
39:28
[SPEAKER_03]: This is how the government chooses winners and losers in private industry, right?
39:32
[SPEAKER_03]: So they create regulations that either cost too much.
39:36
[SPEAKER_03]: for a normal person to start a business or they create regulations that keep certain people out, right?
39:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is exactly what they've done in the scenario.
39:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so there's a crazy, like I'm gonna tell you about this, we're not seeing anything.
39:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Even navigating the alcohol distribution world, you're like, what the fuck?
39:52
[SPEAKER_02]: This is crazy.
39:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So via accreditation, only accredited people,
39:56
[SPEAKER_02]: accredited entities that are not entity people, right?
39:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Can help veterans for money, right?
40:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Only these two categories of accredited people, though.
40:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have accredited attorneys, which if you're a lawyer, then you have an active bar registration in any state, you just submit a piece of paper you're good.
40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: then you have accredited agents, they accredited agents, you don't have to be an attorney, you can just be a normal, normal person, but you have to take a test that has a less than 20% first time passed, right?
40:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Then there's an 18 to 24 month process before they approve you, and what's crazy to show you how broken the system is for a population of 19 million veterans in America, right?
40:33
[SPEAKER_02]: There is 521 accredited agents.
40:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an insane ratio.
40:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you try to take the test?
40:42
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, because to me it's untenable, right?
40:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a team of over 140 people right now where their direct job is what an agent would do interface, right, with the veteran, and so, technically, we're like illegal in some capacities here in saying, well, we're not accredited.
40:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But I've asked OGC, right?
41:00
[SPEAKER_02]: The Office of General Council of the VA said, how do I get these people accredited?
41:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you can't tell me, hey, hire somebody, and then look at them and say, past this less than 20% first time past, past, past, right test that has no study guide, then in something like 18 to 24 months, you can actually do work.
41:16
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the meantime, I'll pay you, I'll pay you, isn't it like what?
41:19
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a system designed to keep veterans dependent on the government.
41:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It was written by a lawyer, I mean, it was written by a lawyer to maintain a monopoly.
41:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And the DAV and VFW and American Legion, they defended adamantly.
41:32
[SPEAKER_02]: They paint me as the devil, because if I succeed, if I prove success in what we're doing, that is the one thing that keeps them relevant, right?
41:42
[SPEAKER_02]: The one thing DAV VFW American Legion do that keeps them relevant is help with claims.
41:48
[SPEAKER_02]: but they don't, they don't do it.
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you've got the lawyers and largely, it's become a somewhat partisan issue.
41:55
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems, anybody who's in support of big government should create more jobs and solve problems, they also think I'm the bookie man.
42:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that is where my attacks come from, and that's the big thing, to sum this all up too.
42:09
[SPEAKER_02]: The VA Office of Accreditation, I've been told this directly by the VA.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have four people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for people.
42:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Running the background text, the test registrations.
42:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why there's only fours enough.
42:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably not.
42:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably not.
42:26
[SPEAKER_04]: It's wild.
42:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is a problem.
42:29
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a problem that you can see.
42:31
[SPEAKER_03]: You see it in government a lot actually, right?
42:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So when a new...
42:36
[SPEAKER_03]: When a new party is executive takes power, new president gets elected.
42:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Typically what you'll see is slow roll in the process of appointments being verified, right?
42:48
[SPEAKER_03]: So for example, during the Obama administration, Republicans refuse to vote on or prove any of the immigration judges, which created a huge immigration backlog.
42:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the backlog we're currently dealing with right now.
43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I still do this day.
43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: That happened in 2008.
43:05
[SPEAKER_03]: this is how far it can cascade across time.
43:08
[SPEAKER_03]: If you don't have the people in place to adjudicate the cases the cases don't get adjudicated and they get moved and that's how we made it to a point like when I first applied for VA benefits in 2011.
43:22
[SPEAKER_03]: It took three years.
43:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus Christ 900 days before I got a rating.
43:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So what do you do?
43:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It was nine and that three years.
43:28
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you do?
43:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I I did that series.
43:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Mostly drugs.
43:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, actually, and I'm a thing that's what everybody else.
43:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but that's what everybody else is doing, right?
43:36
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, I I here what I did was I tried job.
43:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to school.
43:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I can handle that because my brain works.
43:45
[SPEAKER_03]: But I tried working at jobs.
43:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't do that.
43:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I tried just making my way through life.
43:49
[SPEAKER_03]: My testosterone level is 160.
43:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.
43:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Once one six zero.
43:54
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it was and it took me 940 days to get my initial rating and it took me another year and a half to get the final final rating, which is still not correct.
44:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
44:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And since then, I've just given up.
44:07
[SPEAKER_03]: And so let me ask most people by the way.
44:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, most veterans because there is no good option because they've called the DAV and their full of shit because they've called the VFW and their full of shit, they've simply given up.
44:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, but are they doing this on purpose?
44:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Because they don't want to pay.
44:24
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just incompetent.
44:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
44:25
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't don't think they're doing it on purpose.
44:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's a malicious thing.
44:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the raw fact.
44:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I call myself the combat capitalist.
44:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I will I even with what we're pushing in Congress right now and advocating for it is open a regulated market.
44:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not give loop billions of dollars.
44:40
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not make my company the one and only choice.
44:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It is
44:43
[SPEAKER_02]: let's allow competition, right?
44:45
[SPEAKER_02]: If someone thinks they can build a better product than me that serves veterans faster, I am for it.
44:49
[SPEAKER_02]: But with these non-profits, they do not have ability, well, the DAV can definitely afford it, right?
44:55
[SPEAKER_02]: But for them to pay minimum wage and volunteer and then use all the money.
44:59
[SPEAKER_03]: They take in 175 million a year and they pay their adjudicators, that they're not adjudicators.
45:03
[SPEAKER_03]: They're claim helpers, 25 dollars an hour.
45:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:06
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're, while they see you, it makes 600 plus and has a private jet.
45:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like fuck off dude.
45:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And like you can't, you don't have moral high ground to stand on.
45:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You're rolling down the fucking hill, bitch.
45:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a wild thing, and I equate the VA to being this living room where you go in and you think you're going to be supportive.
45:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But the sign on the wall has something a little often, instead of live-life love, it just says live-life, toaster bath.
45:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It's this thing of, you know, good, good, yeah, kill yourself.
45:34
[SPEAKER_02]: That, like, just as good luck, right, beyond.
45:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you get the GWOT box, as I were lovingly called it, the like, with the resources?
45:42
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, like, I lived in this, like,
45:44
[SPEAKER_02]: This double-light trailer and I used to get this box every month and mind you I didn't have like diagnoses a supported needing these things.
45:51
[SPEAKER_02]: My handy means and it would be a bottle of percussive Which was pretty cool A bottle of lorazapam Enough ibuprofen slash tonal hybrid thing to kill a horse and your kidneys.
46:05
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I got perks and
46:08
[SPEAKER_03]: What's that muscle relaxer?
46:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I know what you're talking about.
46:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Something not terrible.
46:13
[SPEAKER_03]: What is it?
46:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Cyclone.
46:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Cyclone.
46:16
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
46:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
46:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.
46:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I used to watch House of Cards and take two of those per cassettes.
46:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was my weekend party.
46:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I used to watch House of Cards and get touched by Kevin Spacey.
46:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, with that costs more that was a private thing it was the VA would not fund that and he was for profit I used to pay him 1250.
46:32
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, it was nice.
46:34
[SPEAKER_03]: That was perfect and there was no guarantee Right, you didn't get your money back.
46:38
[SPEAKER_04]: We would watch saving private Ryan together the opening scene and then he would jack me off and Like just during the first 20 minutes looper.
46:45
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46:47
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, uh, we can mix it up.
46:48
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46:50
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46:50
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's a little different.
46:51
[SPEAKER_04]: That upside down technique is is rare, but when it's pulled off correctly.
46:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Did he two hand the one hand or rather?
46:55
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46:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's always going 12 seconds on a bull.
46:56
[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's fine, but 12 is.
46:57
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46:58
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47:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got a bottle opener, a little hay-wide dispenser here.
47:13
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you have that box, just leave it here on the table before we leave the show.
47:16
[SPEAKER_04]: But my next question is the VFW's.
47:21
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
47:23
[SPEAKER_04]: So I see these everywhere, all over the country.
47:26
[SPEAKER_04]: And I hate to laugh about this, so forgive me.
47:29
[SPEAKER_04]: they are always empty and it feels like it's a drug house or a place to stash money or do something else.
47:36
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen more than two cars there when we were in Los Angeles.
47:40
[SPEAKER_04]: It was an inside joke amongst producers when you're location scouting and trying to find a location called the VFW first.
47:47
[SPEAKER_04]: It's always empty and you can get it for 300 bucks for the entire day.
47:50
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was it and there was one old lady who was working in there and she was like
47:55
[SPEAKER_04]: here it is and it was from the 1970s it was in the valley i think we shot seven different films there uh me personally but all of us knew hey this is what this is for and i was like wait what do you mean what it's for do you not help veterans or what like what actually goes on there because oh i know it's filming locations or just emptiness or occasionally bingo they have here there's some decent ones like the ones and uh
48:21
[SPEAKER_03]: smaller areas like in Montana and Idaho and shit like that are pretty dope.
48:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
48:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I want to make like a big call because you bring up a great point.
48:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything we're saying about DAV, VFW, and American Legion is not in a front to your one down the street for me.
48:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It is not the one in Wilmington.
48:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the one in Palm Beach.
48:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's no.
48:39
[SPEAKER_02]: These local chapters are actually usually the shit.
48:42
[SPEAKER_02]: They're ran by like people who's whole heart is into it.
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: They want a collection place.
48:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They want local community.
48:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're typically doing the right thing.
48:49
[SPEAKER_03]: the how it were it was it these are the people these are the people that are throw in events and providing dollar beers yeah guys so they can hang out together not the people who are taken in millions of dollars in pack money yeah they can fucking do this or that or pretend like they're pretty yes right the big differentiation is the national the national ones right so dv national vfw national american legend national they are the ones and also this little
49:19
[SPEAKER_02]: There are the ones that we're talking about who are misappropriating irrelevant, not effective, hurting veterans, advocating against veterans' rights.
49:28
[SPEAKER_02]: These local branches are the ones typically in the fight, but there's a crazy story that just came out.
49:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is in Sacramento.
49:35
[SPEAKER_03]: a local DMT or you're talking about the way they just passed their offense, yeah, yeah.
49:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So a local DMT and Sacramento, someone that went there often, I guess, passed and they left, I think it was 40 or 70,000 dollars for give me, you can Google it, but 40, 70,000 dollars, they wrote up to the national chain, I guess, just saying like, dude, this is so awesome.
49:56
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like the biggest check we've ever gotten.
49:59
[SPEAKER_02]: D.A.V.
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[SPEAKER_02]: National swooped that money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Stop.
50:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And they said, no, it's for us.
50:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, there's CEOs making $656,000.
50:09
[SPEAKER_03]: That's some, that's some Tony's apprenticeship.
50:12
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got more than $140 million at an asset.
50:15
[SPEAKER_02]: What money?
50:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Daddy, are you coming after the American lesions for that money?
50:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, the DAV went to the local local DAV and said no local chapter because they're separate non-profits.
50:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So each of these branches in every place is it's own little non-profit and DAV will take in big money and then they'll do grants to the little ones, right?
50:34
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they'll do.
50:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But those grants, you can pull it up on the charity network.
50:38
[SPEAKER_04]: For interest rates and stuff like that.
50:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody mixing that earlier in the chat.
50:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean that that happened.
51:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I saw that I saw that recently There's look, there's no end to the retarded bullshit that goes on over there, which is and this is the problem I will say this until I die and I have said it until I'm blue in the face
51:17
[SPEAKER_03]: if government is inefficient, they will hire more people that suck to do that same job even worse.
51:23
[SPEAKER_03]: If a private company's inefficient, they go out of business.
51:26
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I spend my money on private companies.
51:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Period.
51:29
[SPEAKER_02]: That right there.
51:30
[SPEAKER_02]: My accountability is the free market.
51:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And I try to tell that.
51:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I can take your money anywhere you want.
51:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I shout it on the rooftop of LinkedIn, which is, and it's not that cool for rooftop of the fuck, like the best thing I got right now.
51:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But I tell them, like,
51:43
[SPEAKER_02]: 8,000 veterans a month vote with $1,250 and say this, this is the solution that I want.
51:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the crazy part, 98% of our customers, 90% of our customers have gone through the VSO's prior.
51:56
[SPEAKER_02]: But I want to draw something else to that no one thinks about.
52:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was actually very unaware of how prevalent of a problem this was.
52:05
[SPEAKER_02]: MST, military sexual trauma, right?
52:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not specific to one branch.
52:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even specific to one sex.
52:12
[SPEAKER_02]: But you think about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're in the military and you get molested abuse any number of things that call falls into that category.
52:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And what the DAVVFW and American Legion want is for your only option to be that you go to a dilapidated courthouse or a smoke-filled bar
52:34
[SPEAKER_02]: that you don't know, we'll get only 30 minutes with and tell him about your sexual trauma.
52:42
[SPEAKER_02]: That is not only incredibly irresponsible and a mechanism for opening up a wound and then leaving that person with no recourse, no aftercare, no community, no communication.
52:50
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going home after opening that shit again.
52:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But furthermore, they're just not gonna fucking do it, right?
52:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not gonna do it.
52:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the guy?
52:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he licensed, is he a therapist?
53:01
[SPEAKER_02]: No, oh God, no.
53:02
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, you just somebody to talk to?
53:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You go volunteer at the VFW and say, I wanna become a VSO, and you go through essentially whatever, 20, 30 hours of click-based training.
53:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Then they get you a cat card like an ID card and access to a system and you do it and that So that's the thing is like when it comes to military sexual trauma They don't want those people to have an option because no one's gonna do that right you're not gonna sit down with some stranger open these wounds Even if you could do that in 30 minutes and make it it just doesn't it doesn't work and it's so inconsiderate it It blows my fucking mind but
53:41
[SPEAKER_02]: That takes me to the next part of this, which is what we've done with my company, because we're not accredited, because we're not within the system.
53:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get access to VBMS, which is the VA's back end for vendor medical records.
53:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So, to put this in perspective, I'm whipping the prize fighters ass with both hand side by my back.
54:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get to see that veteran's holistic records.
54:04
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't get that, right?
54:06
[SPEAKER_02]: The VA won't allow it because we're not part of one of those two accreditation types.
54:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So basically, he has to send this veteran who's been reeling from a lack of or incompetent services into the belly of the beast to pull out his own records.
54:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
54:21
[SPEAKER_03]: despite the fact that they are, I mean, what do you mean by qualification?
54:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a credential?
54:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Or do you have a track record of actual success?
54:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I kind of care about one more than the other, right?
54:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Credentialism is a bunch of bullshit.
54:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
54:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's how it goes, right?
54:35
[SPEAKER_03]: You send this person who doesn't really know what they're looking for.
54:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, into the belly of the beast, like, hey, we need to find these things and this kind of leads me into a question of the chat as About nexus letters.
54:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what they are and do they actually fucking do anything right, but yeah, that's the phrase It a lot of people like to use surrounding this this is one of my favorite favorite favorite favorite you like propaganda misinformation.
54:58
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a wild one
54:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And it explains to everybody what a Nexus letter is.
55:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So Nexus, you know, you take the dictionary term.
55:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It's merely a connection between one and more things, right?
55:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So Nexus in this context is meant to say, it's a letter that is showing how this service connected injury is connected to service or how this injury is connected to service.
55:16
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I'll give you a great example of one of my favorite Nexus letters we ever got to write.
55:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is in the early days of that claims.
55:24
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a guy who the VA had been denying him for knee injuries for like seven years, right?
55:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And this story is also up on vetrights.com, which we can talk about in a minute, but seven years have you had been denying him for his knee injuries.
55:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, well, you were a tanker, you know, you didn't have any deployments.
55:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you have no in-service a recorded history of knee injury.
55:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So, no, you're done up.
55:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I go and I'm like, wait, wait, wait.
55:50
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a tanker.
55:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
55:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, how tall is an M1A1 Abrams tank?
55:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I look it up.
55:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how tall six to half, seven feet, whatever the fuck it is, right?
55:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what are you wearing?
56:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, combat boots.
56:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, cool, issue combat boots.
56:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And how much do you weigh?
56:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I won 150, plus 40 pounds.
56:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And how much, how much with kit?
56:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And what are you carrying on and off of the tank every day?
56:11
[SPEAKER_02]: How many times per day or how many days per week are you getting on and off the tank?
56:15
[SPEAKER_02]: We boil all this down.
56:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Then we go to find peer-reviewed medical journals, like because the VM, the VM might say the Luke Siminer and that claims that AI is wrong.
56:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But they're damn sure not going to say, hey, you know what, we want to go to court and say Harvard Medical Refuse Rock.
56:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we go find peer-reviewed medical journals, and then we show that this number of impacts with this weight from this height is the equivalent to essentially a fucking car accident per week.
56:36
[SPEAKER_02]: That better and get circling improved.
56:39
[SPEAKER_03]: one go one go seven years of fighting the idea that a tanker or a calf and of any sort or infantry or anything in combat or to be honest people that are loading equipment or anything like that don't immediately look if you've got a verifyable injury obviously you just don't walk and get it but if you've got an injury to your lower body and you don't immediately get that shit it's wild to me.
57:01
[SPEAKER_03]: because there are some things that are presumptive, right?
57:05
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're in the infantry, for example, and you say, I've got PTSD, they don't really ask many questions.
57:11
[SPEAKER_03]: 50% unless you can demonstrate more, but it's right off the bat, right?
57:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Which makes sense.
57:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Because if you're in a combat zone in the infantry, it's not about
57:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's the caricature of the dude of like the end of traffic thunder, where he's like blubbering and his buddy's done in his hands.
57:27
[SPEAKER_03]: But the reality is it's a prolonged exposure to heightened levels of stress, right?
57:31
[SPEAKER_03]: That's really what causes it for the most for most people.
57:34
[SPEAKER_03]: That and then the amplifiers later, things like the moral injury, like I survived, my buddy didn't.
57:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Why should I survive?
57:41
[SPEAKER_03]: You started to question your own.
57:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Survivors now, so it's a spiral, right?
57:45
[SPEAKER_03]: It really is.
57:46
[SPEAKER_03]: But you, it's obvious.
57:48
[SPEAKER_03]: And how is it not obvious that a fucking paratrooper or an infantry guy?
57:53
[SPEAKER_03]: has shitty knees.
57:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is a clock.
57:55
[SPEAKER_02]: To Ross' question earlier, are they hiring veterans?
57:56
[SPEAKER_02]: No, these raiders do not have any idea what the actual context of your tanker, do you not know?
58:02
[SPEAKER_02]: You drive a tank, right?
58:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
58:03
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't think about jumping on and off with 50-pound ammo cans and 50-pounds of armor and equipment and being in jump boots and doing that every single day after running five miles for PT that morning.
58:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But to the next slider thing, where this gets really interesting, is I set the little veteran claim social media sphere on fire for a bit there.
58:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And because everybody in their mom, these lawyers, and all these other claim-shark ass firms out there, had peddled and convinced the world that a nexus letter had to come from a medical professional.
58:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I can come from your buddy.
58:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I can come from your platoon medic.
58:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it can come from your dog.
58:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
58:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It, it genuinely, I mean, if your dog can write that sick.
58:41
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, it's the information that matters at the end of the day.
58:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I go into 30, see if, if I, I look up the literal fucking federal law, like, this isn't like some classified shit, right?
58:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not George Floyd's record deal.
58:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's, sorry, I opened it up.
58:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But, no, it's fine.
58:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't breathe anyways.
58:55
[SPEAKER_04]: He'll make it up.
58:56
[SPEAKER_04]: He'll make it up, so it's your fault.
58:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But the bliss and I've been canceled a few times, I like it.
59:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So the thing is, it's not classified.
59:04
[SPEAKER_02]: 30 CFR federal law, a nexus letter, it's backing, it's substantiating the claim.
59:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It can come from anybody.
59:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is one of the biggest things that that claims is done that is led to our disproportionate success and growth.
59:20
[SPEAKER_02]: The average veteran has a claim cycle of four to six, meaning they'll go claim, appeal, claim, appeal, blah, blah, blah, four to six rounds.
59:26
[SPEAKER_02]: with us?
59:27
[SPEAKER_02]: How long does it take?
59:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, now each took me five years in total.
59:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, secretary Collins to his credit.
59:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's done.
59:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the best thing he's done to like up.
59:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, shit.
59:38
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, so they're like sub three months now.
59:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
59:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's moving really, really way.
59:42
[SPEAKER_03]: At least for the initial, like you need something to like addendum, then that obviously that depends on how long it takes to get the information all that shit.
59:49
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not their fault.
59:50
[SPEAKER_02]: The more complex stuff, yeah, definitely things time.
59:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But with us, we've got it now into 1.8.
59:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is why, I mean, that's why, for this whole movement, we put together that website that writes.com is
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We veterans need to speak and we need your voice because right now, I don't even think Congress, I don't even think Secretary Collins is tracking how big of an issue this is.
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_04]: No, they are, they may be, but that's in a damn for sure.
1:00:20
[SPEAKER_02]: The big thing is if we can get it to where veterans can choose professional help on the first time, right, for their first claim.
1:00:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I firmly believe we can reduce the veteran suicide rate significantly.
1:00:32
[SPEAKER_02]: We can get people to stability quicker.
1:00:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, it's 45, 44, 45 a day, not 17, not 22.
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_03]: If you include people that are drugging themselves to death, the dive things like that, right?
1:00:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Suicide by comp, et cetera, all that stuff.
1:00:46
[SPEAKER_03]: It's 44-ish on average.
1:00:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Another question.
1:00:51
[SPEAKER_03]: This one goes, well, I'm not going to, I'm not going to editorialize here.
1:00:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Why don't VSOs discuss secondary issues when you're applying for benefits?
1:01:00
[SPEAKER_02]: they don't have time and they don't have training.
1:01:03
[SPEAKER_02]: The VSOs, the people themselves do in the work are good humans, but they genuinely don't have the time or training to do this.
1:01:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you also have to understand like part of the training when a veteran comes into work for me.
1:01:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Typically, most of them are PJs, Sarks, Corman, Army Medics, Air Force Medics, etc.
1:01:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So they've got some understanding of anatomy and physiology.
1:01:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But what we have to talk about when it comes to secondary claims is medical etiology.
1:01:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you ever watched an episode of Dr. House, right?
1:01:30
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't really a grandize way like, oh, you cut your ear and that's how you got tetanus and that's why you're vomiting fecal matter or something, right?
1:01:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But for us, it's more so, okay, cool.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You got, you know, blown up and you had a cervical neck injury from that, right?
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_02]: But now you've gotten a ropathy down the right arm.
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_02]: and your left hip, your left hip is, you know, experiencing whatever, right, neuropathy, neurology, whatever it is.
1:01:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do we find the peer reviewed medical journals?
1:01:57
[SPEAKER_02]: This is where VECLAMES.ai does the magic.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_02]: As we find the peer reviewed medical journals that can show, hey, a cervical spine injury can obviously lead to that, that right arm neurology.
1:02:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:02:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It can also, that misalignment now can lead to altered gate and your left hip issue.
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And then what's, if you tell me that, Dan, the first thing I'm going to ask you is,
1:02:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you've got a left hip issue.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_02]: How's your right ankle?
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you sleeping?
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_02]: And how's your right knee?
1:02:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because if you're left if your left hip soft, that means you're probably favoring the right, taking more impacts.
1:02:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And that that's where you go ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.
1:02:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And what would have been a 10% claim is now 70%.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's what they do for athletes.
1:02:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:02:35
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, you have a calf injury, try to play early, and you get any please.
1:02:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's very obvious that you're right hip.
1:02:43
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a mountain of medical evidence for this stuff.
1:02:45
[SPEAKER_03]: It is unobjectionable and not questionable in any way.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_03]: This isn't like, you'll see dudes like Caleb Hammer and Noah, no offense to the guy, but he doesn't understand what the phrase VA disability really means.
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Most people don't actually well we can we can talk more about that in here at a moment most people Don't understand what that phrase actually means it is not that I'm disabled and can't work is that you fucked up my body And now I have to do this for the rest of my goddamn life.
1:03:12
[SPEAKER_03]: So you got to pay me.
1:03:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's Harriet, right?
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_03]: So one of the most common ones one dead
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_03]: all of us probably have dealt with is that you get your head banged around, whether you know what or not, there's an explosion, a mile away, a one-five-five round, a mile away produces enough concussive blast to cause a minor concussion, okay?
1:03:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
1:03:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And how many of those did you experience?
1:03:34
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're inside of a tank, if you're artillery, if you're infantry, any of that stuff, and your pituitary gets damaged even a little bit, your testosterone is done.
1:03:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, and then all the fucking stuff that comes as a result of low testosterone.
1:03:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:03:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:03:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll take it a step further.
1:03:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would love to talk to Caleb Hammer because I don't think he's being malicious, but I agree.
1:04:00
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he's not just him.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody that talks about this stuff, including most veterans to be honest, are completely ignorant to what that payment is for.
1:04:09
[SPEAKER_03]: That is not medical disability in the same way that if you got hurt on the job, you are getting disability from the state.
1:04:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not the same thing.
1:04:16
[SPEAKER_03]: It's I came into this with a functional body.
1:04:18
[SPEAKER_03]: My functional body has been butt fucked by you, right?
1:04:22
[SPEAKER_03]: And now I'm gonna be compensated for it because me personally, I've spent over the last 10 years.
1:04:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say I was probably spent somewhere between 250 and 300,000 dollars on my own shit, right?
1:04:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, her at a pocket because I'm fucked up and because you were incompetent.
1:04:38
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what that money goes towards.
1:04:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not, I'm not fucking, I don't drive a Lamborghini, motherfucker.
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And neither do any of these other guys.
1:04:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:04:45
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, what, you got a full-time job and you're getting four grand a month from the government?
1:04:50
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, yeah, but I have to spend that money making my life manageable.
1:04:55
[SPEAKER_04]: But also your life-talking about it is pretty miserable.
1:04:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, and I hate to say, yeah, but with tonight's, so my father has, right?
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Just something as simple as that.
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll fuck you up the rest of your life and nobody takes that in a consideration.
1:05:11
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the sad part about all this.
1:05:13
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, obviously you see the MPTs, that you know, because you can see it.
1:05:18
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the mental shit that you can't see.
1:05:20
[SPEAKER_04]: And you can't get inside somebody's brain unless you are an actual veteran.
1:05:24
[SPEAKER_04]: And you are in one of these committees.
1:05:25
[SPEAKER_04]: It says, hey man, you know, you need to start looking for this this and this versus whatever the fuck you've been taught because it's not, it's not correct.
1:05:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll take this a step further, and I'll share a story here that I've never shared before.
1:05:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Anywhere with anyone, like no one besides my wife, Stephen track in this, this also covers the malpractice.
1:05:48
[SPEAKER_02]: To dance point that this is not like so security disability where it's saying you can't work, this is retroactive workers' compensation, right?
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_02]: We took away a degree of your body's usefulness, and that's that.
1:06:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Now medical malpractice within the military, you can't sue.
1:06:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you can't now because it's actually.
1:06:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:06:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, maybe it's a state call, but it's still it takes.
1:06:11
[SPEAKER_03]: It takes forever.
1:06:11
[SPEAKER_03]: No one's actually gotten one through yet.
1:06:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, also technically events.
1:06:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Technically, the 2019 NDA made it they erased the fairies doctrine under certain circumstances.
1:06:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe a lawyer can help me with this and I'll tell the story.
1:06:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:06:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, even our friend that we met event, looking into suing the VA from Al practice.
1:06:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's not good.
1:06:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good law.
1:06:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's capped at 250k.
1:06:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:06:31
[SPEAKER_04]: It's pointless.
1:06:31
[SPEAKER_04]: You can do it.
1:06:32
[SPEAKER_04]: It's pointless.
1:06:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Your legal fees will match that dollar amount.
1:06:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about the next petition.
1:06:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, nobody knows what a lawyer's going to take that case.
1:06:37
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's capped at 250k.
1:06:38
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, they won't.
1:06:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, but for me, right?
1:06:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I am at this point 19 years old, station at Fort Bragg, I took a
1:06:48
[SPEAKER_02]: direct line like shot to the kidney coming down on a airborne jump, right, landed on a rock wrong, just boom, like whatever it was pinpointed, I get knocked out, wake up, seems fine.
1:07:01
[SPEAKER_02]: The next morning, I literally can't pee, like can't pee.
1:07:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing comes out, trying my heart is horrible pain.
1:07:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh fuck, I gotta go to the ER.
1:07:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So go to the ER, call my call my first start and I'm like, I don't know what's going on, but I'm in the ER.
1:07:16
[SPEAKER_02]: They proceed to try to categorize me five times.
1:07:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Five times, I have an army doctor, shove a crazy straw down my dick.
1:07:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, I have PTSD from orange crazy straws.
1:07:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Five times, right?
1:07:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, well, it appears there's a structure.
1:07:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what's that?
1:07:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And he said a blockage.
1:07:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, no fucking shit.
1:07:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't fucking pee.
1:07:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says, well, we're gonna have to call the urologist.
1:07:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, you're not a dick doctor.
1:07:43
[SPEAKER_02]: and you've been touching my dick.
1:07:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going through the most excruciating pain known in mankind, right, in my opinion.
1:07:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that is horrible.
1:07:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They finally called this urologist.
1:07:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, yeah, we're going to have to knock you out and use a wire guide.
1:07:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And so whatever happened, the toxins from my kidneys went into my re-threature, a cause of stricture somewhere between the bladder.
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_03]: It like the trauma of makes it close off because it thinks something's fucked with something was fucked up.
1:08:09
[SPEAKER_03]: And it doesn't want bile to get out into the rest of your bodies essentially.
1:08:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they wireguide me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for the rest of my life.
1:08:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I could tell a missile bitch for the rest of my life.
1:08:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time I pee, I deal with excruciating pain to the point of my leg's fucking shaking.
1:08:23
[SPEAKER_02]: To the day?
1:08:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there is no fix.
1:08:25
[SPEAKER_02]: There is no anything, right?
1:08:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's one surgery they offered me, which is where they take your wiener and they cut it open and then they resection their wiener.
1:08:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, oh, the Caitlyn Jenner.
1:08:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, you're not, you're not hot dog sausageing.
1:08:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:08:39
[SPEAKER_03]: If they add a couple, I just maybe.
1:08:41
[SPEAKER_03]: But other, yeah.
1:08:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I might ask thick and throw it in.
1:08:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, my point is, and like, I still have all my limbs.
1:08:47
[SPEAKER_02]: My shit still works.
1:08:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy, right?
1:08:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get it twisted.
1:08:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still fucking like a champ.
1:08:51
[SPEAKER_04]: But the point is, if I haven't organized them, though.
1:08:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but part of the one right now, if you move your finger a little faster Ross, we'd be in good thing to try.
1:09:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm on my third finger though.
1:09:02
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a lot.
1:09:03
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a point.
1:09:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm a flexible man.
1:09:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:09:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But the point is, that's invisible.
1:09:08
[SPEAKER_02]: You never know that about me.
1:09:10
[SPEAKER_02]: People and people can see me.
1:09:12
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a hilarious part.
1:09:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually did by Lamborghini.
1:09:14
[SPEAKER_02]: and people can see me driving that.
1:09:16
[SPEAKER_02]: People can see whatever the hell I'm doing in my life.
1:09:18
[SPEAKER_02]: They will never understand that, you know, 12 of my friends killed themselves, post-service, three of my friends died on deployment.
1:09:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It hurts like a motherfucker every time I pee, and my knees sound like popcorn.
1:09:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time I hit it from the back, my wife asks who's making popcorn.
1:09:31
[SPEAKER_02]: it's fucked up okay and so like my life can be Gucci as shit and if the VA pays me 4,000 dollars a month hell yes I don't care how much money any veteran has they deserve it it's not because they can't work it's because you sacrifice for this country they made a promise to you and when you got out you had injuries that will affect you the rest of your life.
1:09:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So you own a land of Lamborghini currently?
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I do why?
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a dream.
1:09:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
1:09:56
[SPEAKER_02]: It was an absolute dream of mine, and it was one of those things for me where
1:10:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what we're doing is in a contentious space and people are attacking me from every angle.
1:10:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But I absolutely refuse to be the veteran that goes from homelessness to taking a bed on myself and college to, you know, even I went to school for nursing, right?
1:10:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I stopped nursing because it messed up my head too much.
1:10:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And I teach myself how to code.
1:10:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I start my first company, the first company blows up in fails.
1:10:27
[SPEAKER_02]: The second company is this one, Catastrophic insane success.
1:10:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I refuse to not make an absolute hallmark example for every other veteran out there and say, look dude, I don't care how crazy, how shitty what you're going through is.
1:10:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Bit by bit, take those bets and look what you can do.
1:10:45
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of, it's the bookmark.
1:10:48
[SPEAKER_04]: But what about the people on the other side who look at you and say, hey, you're going after these companies and nonprofits, and then you were driving a Lamborghini?
1:10:56
[SPEAKER_03]: What is he going after?
1:10:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I help more people here.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the same argument as school choice.
1:11:01
[SPEAKER_03]: If I can provide a service at a cost, that beats your free service, that's your fucking problem, not mine.
1:11:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, like you're not entitled to socialized anything in our society, get fucked.
1:11:12
[SPEAKER_02]: When I think we have too many, to your point, I think we have too many bashful capitalists.
1:11:16
[SPEAKER_04]: too many bashful capos who don't why I was reading your Instagram comments before you came on the show and it's you know all over the board by the way with you like it's everywhere I was just like I don't even read my own I read the gas when they come on and she'll like that but I'm reading yours and it's I see people coming after you for saying all right great I've made a hundred million dollars I drive a Lamborghini I do this this and this and they're like are you helping veterans as much as the next company and your response to that is
1:11:41
[SPEAKER_03]: The VA's process and stuff in 1.8 and he's doing it in 3 and he's doing it in 1.8.
1:11:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you don't get what you're looking for from this company, you get your fucking money back.
1:11:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I also think that like to the viewers watching this, I mean, you guys got like live comments, right?
1:11:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you not want to see someone who is building something that actually moves the needle for the veteran community enjoying what that brings with it?
1:12:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I certainly do.
1:12:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it's one of those things where I can also, and I can happily print receipts for it, too.
1:12:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I guarantee I spend more money, more money on helping the veteran community and helping specific veterans every month out of my own pocket, not a nonprofit.
1:12:20
[SPEAKER_03]: What is it?
1:12:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Is the one you just cut this week?
1:12:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that, uh, can we talk about that?
1:12:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:12:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So 107 foundation who, if you remember, uh, do you remember me fundraising with, uh, Ian and Andy at a couple of people to rebuild that town in North Carolina, a couple of years ago, 107 that did that.
1:12:39
[SPEAKER_04]: But they're primers, uh, hurricane.
1:12:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 107 was the lead on that, but primarily what they do is they give veterans cancer screening because we are all fucked, right?
1:12:48
[SPEAKER_03]: We are just a toxic exposure burn peds, et cetera, and that's what they do and you guys had some deal within this week.
1:12:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so, you know, how this worked out is the first thing I did is I called Hunter 7, Chelsea and Chachi, who run that over there, and I said, look, I need to get these VSOs, the DAV, VFW American Legion 2 a debate, and I want to do this in a way that they have to come talk, they have to come answer.
1:13:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
1:13:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And what I would like to do is, you know, we do roughly 150,000 of philanthropy every month, anyways, which a guarantee is more than any other company of our size.
1:13:25
[SPEAKER_02]: But we do that anyways, additionally this month, in addition to what I want to do is I want to put $50,000 up to 107 foundation.
1:13:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to put another $25,000 up if one representative from these national headquarters will show up, their national commanders.
1:13:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I put it out.
1:13:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I tagged the VFWDAV, everybody for, I mean, it's been 30 days.
1:13:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they refused.
1:13:48
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't even respond.
1:13:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I've tagged their board members directly.
1:13:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I've tagged their pages.
1:13:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had thousands of people comment on their pages.
1:13:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Hunter 7 Foundation who has a very huge following as well.
1:13:57
[SPEAKER_02]: His comment to Dan has shared it.
1:13:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Drinking Bros. has shared it.
1:14:01
[SPEAKER_02]: No responses besides closed door board meetings talking about how to make me shut up.
1:14:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So as of last night, knowing no one's going to show up, we just wired the whole 75,000 over to the Hunter 7 Foundation.
1:14:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to end up getting, I think, over, Chelsea can give me the correct number.
1:14:17
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be over 200 veterans through these cancer screenings.
1:14:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And out of every four, I think she said the stat is out of every four, one will need additional care, additional treatment, or follow up.
1:14:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that we're going to keep building a bigger relationship with them because they are a veteran nonprofit where I know every dollar in goes into serving the veterans I love the nonprofits where they have like a direct mission I do one thing and I do a really fucking well.
1:14:43
[SPEAKER_04]: that stuff.
1:14:45
[SPEAKER_04]: So would your ultimate dream be to see that there's, let's say, 20 other companies like yourself, and that there was an open market for everybody.
1:14:53
[SPEAKER_04]: So it would speed up the process and get them in and out of it with a guarantee.
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Because one of the,
1:14:59
[SPEAKER_04]: the most impressive things about your company is that you are giving a guarantee.
1:15:03
[SPEAKER_04]: If we do not get this, you get your money back, plus 500 bucks, no, but he offers that.
1:15:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that what you want to see is more companies like yourself or help from the government to make companies like yours bigger and more accessible?
1:15:20
[SPEAKER_02]: two fold right you know I have this I have this pie in the sky idea that we could be the front end of the VA and I could save the VA somewhere between two and three billion dollars every year just based upon you know the amount of claims that are filed with the VA that makes things take so long is that they're missing one of the core ingredients right they don't have an ongoing diagnosis they don't have a connection to service or so and so forth so by pairing that down and making sure the things that are submitted are things that have the
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_02]: we could do that more effectively.
1:15:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And that might be the fastest, strongest way to get veterans.
1:15:52
[SPEAKER_02]: There's their benefits.
1:15:54
[SPEAKER_02]: That said, though, I'm also fully aware how the federal government works.
1:15:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that might be that even if even with the best intentions, maybe that wouldn't work the way I think it would.
1:16:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And so thus to your point, yeah, my, my,
1:16:07
[SPEAKER_02]: the second best thing or maybe the first best thing is having a regulated market, right?
1:16:11
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't need people taking your vanage of veterans, but at the same time, I'm of the mind that if you wanna go and say, you know what, for $50,000 down, I'll help you with your claim.
1:16:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, what do I get with that?
1:16:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, a reach around.
1:16:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And you wanna pay me $50,000?
1:16:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a grown-ass man.
1:16:27
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
1:16:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Association that's fundamental to liberty, my friend.
1:16:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:16:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Last I checked, this is fucking America.
1:16:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, because what it sounds like you said to 8,000 a month, how many people are getting out of the military?
1:16:41
[SPEAKER_03]: 16,600 a month.
1:16:42
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's another 8,000 people that need.
1:16:46
[SPEAKER_03]: There's also, uh, there's 16 million GWAT veterans.
1:16:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And the vast, as he mentioned, 98% of the people that come through this organization have already been to one of these BSs.
1:16:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So they've already tried and they've failed.
1:16:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Or they've tried and they've come up short to some degree, right?
1:17:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're not just talking about the 16 and a half thousand, although during peak season I think it's more like 30, but the average of 16, 6 a month, you're talking about millions of people who are going on service or underservice for the better part of a decade maybe longer at this point.
1:17:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Which gives you more and more time to think about your injuries, what happens to you, and potentially taking your own life.
1:17:21
[SPEAKER_04]: It'll take 10 years and of his business to fix this problem with the VACs, what 300,000
1:17:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, current numbers is closer to 260,000 claims, I think, to, call it 260,000 claims per month, right now.
1:17:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And out of those, you know, the data isn't clear enough to show us how many of those are like initial claims versus follow-ups, but to put that in perspective, right, 260,000, 200,000, whatever it is.
1:17:51
[SPEAKER_02]: we're doing 8,000 right now.
1:17:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And we can scale, we can scale all the way up.
1:17:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And our efficiencies, like this is the crazy part, right?
1:18:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Dan, you're talking about like PireTruper's Infantry, whatever it is.
1:18:03
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's certain things where we should like, what is considered presumptive?
1:18:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we could save a lot of time with this.
1:18:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But it gets even better with what we've done over just 22 months and the machine learning, right?
1:18:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that claims that we sell no data and we have zero data retention policies with everything that we do.
1:18:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That said, we do have our own internal machine learning and with that we have some crazy findings, right, like if you were a maintainer, these are the things that they kind of shocked me like the aircraft maintainers almost all of them have whatever their dominant side is if it's a right hand strong.
1:18:35
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to have, you know, carpal tunnel.
1:18:37
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to have severe arthritis in the right wrist.
1:18:40
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to have knee injuries because what I didn't know, is these crazy little things that like the big patterns that scale of data can put together for you, is you can't use power tools in an aircraft, right?
1:18:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're doing little, little hand crank there, but then you think the thing that they have,
1:18:58
[SPEAKER_03]: right that the thing that they would carry out their ordinary live after service that they could do for money.
1:19:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
1:19:03
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no longer useful.
1:19:04
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fucked.
1:19:04
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
1:19:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean not.
1:19:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't.
1:19:08
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just so it's everything is so obvious.
1:19:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:19:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:19:11
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so obvious.
1:19:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I think what you know, certainly there is you're servicing
1:19:20
[SPEAKER_03]: 3% of the claims as it stands right now so there's plenty of room for growth not just for you what other companies there's also room and other avenues for growth as well.
1:19:32
[SPEAKER_03]: How many veterans out there know how to get money to start a business?
1:19:35
[SPEAKER_03]: How many of them know how to get money to, and there have been people that have tried it before, street shares up in DC, tried it back in the day to like fund small veteran business.
1:19:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody could really get it off the ground.
1:19:46
[SPEAKER_03]: But education benefits.
1:19:48
[SPEAKER_03]: How many people really know how to do that?
1:19:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a great one out in California.
1:19:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Great one, right.
1:19:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was called There was two companies one was called swords to plow shares and they helped you get a credit issues It's shit like that and the other one was a VA employee that I met out there this lady that helped me out And this was for vocational rehabilitation that program is pretty buttoned up If you can get a devote rehab, just probably somebody that can help you with that to be honest That might be the most buttoned up program that the VA offers
1:20:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, so we are building, we've got it in like the beta test right now.
1:20:22
[SPEAKER_02]: A chapter 31, which is vocational rehab journey.
1:20:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Navigational tool, right?
1:20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: The cool thing, Ross, is about chapter 31, right?
1:20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So GI Bill, you have like a finite amount of time.
1:20:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You have finite hours and you're going to get finite money or program with chapter 31, for example, I used it because I was going to nursing school.
1:20:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I got my my nursing degree.
1:20:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And then after working as a nurse, I was like between my knees and my PTSD.
1:20:49
[SPEAKER_02]: this does not put me in a good spot like this is not a scalable career.
1:20:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So I had an over 30% VA rating which is one of the wrecks to use chapter 31 Vogue Rehab and I start that program and I tell them I'm like look yes I use my GI Bill I've still got some time left but I like this career it's I can't it's not going to last me my life
1:21:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And so physically and also mentally, right?
1:21:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going home empty a shit every night because I love working in the ERC so you can make an impact, but God, I applaud nurses so much because that you're leaving it all in the field every single day.
1:21:22
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's also, like, you mentioned, you briefly mentioned it, but some measure of upward mobility.
1:21:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, are we really comfortable as a society?
1:21:32
[SPEAKER_03]: sending our veteran out to their ordinary life after their service and to saying, this is where you are forever.
1:21:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that we got no chance to rise now because of what we did you.
1:21:41
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, I mean, I don't know.
1:21:43
[SPEAKER_03]: When you say it like that, it kind of sounds fucked up, doesn't it?
1:21:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's part of, that's part of the beauty and tragedy of the chapter 31 book, Rehab, is I was unable to go say, well, I want to go to law school.
1:21:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
1:21:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be a medical pat in attorney.
1:21:56
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I really thought I wanted to do.
1:21:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, well, yeah, yeah, it's justified.
1:22:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So the chapter 31 for veterans listening, if you've got look up their requirements for it, I believe it's 30% rating.
1:22:08
[SPEAKER_02]: God, it's the black card of government spending.
1:22:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You can literally go as far as you want to go as long as you can justify it.
1:22:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're building a tool that'll be free or incredibly cheap, just a API cost for us for you to get those letters of justification.
1:22:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And to your point, Dan, like, that to me is the travesty of this.
1:22:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I am the American Dream.
1:22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I grew up in Section 8 housing to a single mom.
1:22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I am getting to impact, fuck the money.
1:22:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting to impact over 8,000 people's lives every single month and more through our content, right?
1:22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And live a great life doing it.
1:22:43
[SPEAKER_02]: The saddest part to me is how many of our service members fought for the American Dream?
1:22:49
[SPEAKER_02]: But get home and never realize that they can participate in it.
1:22:53
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, that's, it's a Jack Reager quote.
1:22:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I spent my entire life overseas, and I figured I would come home to America and experience them with a freedom I was, I kept here in a mountain, right?
1:23:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:23:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:23:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, if you want, I can call my friend, he's senior Senate, Mitch McConnell.
1:23:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
1:23:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, but if you need, guys, if you need help, you talk to him for 20 minutes.
1:23:14
[SPEAKER_04]: If you, as soon as I talked to him for 20 minutes, okay, well, the Mexican gets up to drink to Keela.
1:23:20
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1:23:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I hope so.
1:23:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I hope so Jesus Christ.
1:23:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
1:23:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he alive?
1:23:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let's take one of these.
1:23:35
[SPEAKER_04]: No, he's definitely now.
1:23:36
[SPEAKER_04]: You got a green apple on there.
1:23:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, dude.
1:23:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I try one of those?
1:23:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
1:23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: A Ross will part of Texas or we in right now?
1:23:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, for what?
1:23:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Hard AF?
1:23:46
[SPEAKER_01]: No, just in general.
1:23:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know where I'm at.
1:23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We got off the jet.
1:23:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, here.
1:23:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's go with Carolina.
1:23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're in your taxes.
1:23:51
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
1:23:51
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1:23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
1:23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We're near it.
1:23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You're all really near.
1:23:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never had it.
1:23:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there you go.
1:23:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll take one too.
1:23:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
1:23:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:23:57
[SPEAKER_04]: That is really great.
1:23:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Apple.
1:23:58
[SPEAKER_03]: If you got it, thank you.
1:23:59
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just, John, I'm sure.
1:24:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.
1:24:02
[SPEAKER_04]: I got peach.
1:24:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're all just like we're younger.
1:24:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Nick Cage saying I could eat a peach for hours and also young.
1:24:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know what that meant.
1:24:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you do.
1:24:10
[SPEAKER_02]: To every latina they're under five six.
1:24:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I can eat a peach for hours.
1:24:14
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
1:24:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Are you not married?
1:24:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I am.
1:24:16
[SPEAKER_02]: She likes women too.
1:24:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Really?
1:24:18
[SPEAKER_04]: That's okay.
1:24:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Holy shit.
1:24:19
[SPEAKER_04]: That might have been the you said a lead with that.
1:24:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's roll the b-roll.
1:24:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So okay.
1:24:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So the other day I found out that my videoographer Kevin over here.
1:24:28
[SPEAKER_02]: once banged a chip while playing violin and I got so mad that he did not introduce himself with this qualification.
1:24:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, do you know I would have paid you at least 20% more?
1:24:36
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you fit that all in one business card?
1:24:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll figure it out.
1:24:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
1:24:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Go to onlyvets.com, dude, and you can get some work.
1:24:45
[SPEAKER_04]: That's another industry.
1:24:47
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a URL.
1:24:48
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to talk about the domains I own.
1:24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God.
1:24:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's show you're squatting on a lot of them, aren't you?
1:24:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's an epilome.
1:24:55
[SPEAKER_04]: here i i think i have a factio jeans is what i own but yeah well that's a callback for some day one homies there but uh um yeah she's probably shits i should that's just a few of them but probably shouldn't read all those out loud yeah but it's black midgets like to fly dot org
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's not.
1:25:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Are you helping them?
1:25:17
[SPEAKER_03]: It's an advocacy group for a midget tossing.
1:25:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I always actually working on a private equity deal to acquire spirit airlines and make it only for, I believe, little people is what they prefer.
1:25:27
[SPEAKER_02]: But if that's neither here nor do you kidding.
1:25:29
[SPEAKER_04]: No, that would have been awesome.
1:25:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I need high skirt.
1:25:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they still fight in the lobby.
1:25:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, sure do.
1:25:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I imagine how many of those little fuckers you could fit on when aircrafts are going to do.
1:25:39
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you're dead.
1:25:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, overhead.
1:25:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, overhead.
1:25:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's like a little sleeping bag.
1:25:43
[SPEAKER_04]: You could have six per row instead of three, dude.
1:25:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly.
1:25:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Full-size bank accounts, half-size seats, we're running it up.
1:25:49
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go, dude.
1:25:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to have a whole new demographic of people leaving nasty comments now.
1:25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
1:25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Or he just popped up on WorldStar either day.
1:25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we live.
1:25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we live.
1:26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we live.
1:26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we live.
1:26:02
[SPEAKER_03]: My boy got some motion on the wall.
1:26:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody's weave out at a bar.
1:26:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So I got, well, there it is right there.
1:26:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I got on WorldStar because...
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[SPEAKER_02]: This real?
1:26:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:26:11
[SPEAKER_02]: When Grand Theft Auto announced the days that they were coming out,
1:26:15
[SPEAKER_02]: majority veteran company, I wrote an email saying, hey, you know, given the fact that the fucking apocalypse is probably gonna have to have to this.
1:26:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I almost had to have back surgery before GTA 6.
1:26:26
[SPEAKER_02]: What the fuck?
1:26:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I was like, look, y'all get two days off, paid.
1:26:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So go enjoy.
1:26:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that real?
1:26:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:26:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And that falls on you.
1:26:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Play that clip, not talk to our known team, right?
1:26:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, yeah.
1:26:36
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, Juneteenth is when it goes, Jun.
1:26:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:26:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Luke no is it October 29 is that when GTA six is called number 19 Number like it's like 19 20 or 18 19 three days before Kennedy.
1:26:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, sure.
1:26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: My birthday is the 21st What if he's in the game?
1:26:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's in the convertible dude, and you get to fucking Merck JFK again play this video.
1:26:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I love look
1:26:59
[SPEAKER_02]: As this goes after the team, Archie Fliegel officer has brought to my attention that November 19th is the official release date for Grand Theft Auto 6.
1:27:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Given the likely apocalypse following this long-awaited release in the high operational tempo we have maintained, I have made the executive decision to designate November 19th and 20th, 2026 as official non-operational days.
1:27:20
[SPEAKER_02]: These days will be effectively one-off paid holidays.
1:27:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for all your hard work and dedication to the mission.
1:27:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Look at that, dude, doing God's work.
1:27:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Just to be honest with you.
1:27:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much.
1:27:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Big, big fan.
1:27:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for being here, man.
1:27:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Now's the point in the show we get to the drinking bro the week, which is someone who has inspired you or how it should become the person you are today, which is like to give drinking bro the week too.
1:27:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.
1:27:44
[SPEAKER_04]: This is already given it up.
1:27:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I, he gave us both a lot of druby, I think, right?
1:27:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Or just anybody, yeah.
1:27:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Caesar shyness, he was.
1:27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, Andy for Zella would be my my it's a great one.
1:27:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he loves you guys, but I his friend of mine is MFCEO project inspired me.
1:28:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually But try to start a dog toy company at one point and I sent him like a Christmas present for his bulldog.
1:28:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure it got picked up in security But either way that dude's a non-stop inspiration.
1:28:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So shout out to you Andy and thank you for all you do man
1:28:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I can tell you in real life, he's just as awesome as a human being as you see online.
1:28:18
[SPEAKER_04]: He's one of those rare people that he lives up to the hype where you're like, okay, I get it.
1:28:24
[SPEAKER_04]: That's it.
1:28:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I damaged friends with him.
1:28:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I hadn't met him before.
1:28:27
[SPEAKER_04]: First, when one of our best advertisers in the show, I just know him from how great his products are.
1:28:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I never got to meet the guy in real life until last year when he was on the show and watching his operation, watching him, communicate with people and
1:28:41
[SPEAKER_04]: and helping people on a daily basis is inspiring, impressive.
1:28:45
[SPEAKER_04]: That dude absolutely lives that fucking life, man, that's a great drinking bro.
1:28:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I love Big fan of him.
1:28:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope I get to meet him one day, but thank you Andy for all you do.
1:28:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
1:28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Zeus, what's the next album coming out?
1:28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, so about that, when I came across Luke in his mission, I was so fascinated by it and inspired by it, I said dude, I'll go,
1:29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: ball's deep and fall you into any mission you got that can help vets.
1:29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Prior to my last album, I had produced music festivals on military bases across the country and it just was extremely impactful to me because I always had a passion, obviously, for my country and for music entertainment.
1:29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I have about two albums sitting on ice right now and was just waiting for the right time
1:29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Luke has done an incredible job letting me kind of guide some of the resources I have with people.
1:29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I got my producer here, Dustin Cavassos.
1:29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I got my videographer Kevin.
1:29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They've all joined the squad and the purpose and we're traveling all over the country.
1:29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting new ideas.
1:29:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm inspired.
1:29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fucking fired up.
1:29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been just like building these bridges to make.
1:29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: This is biggest possible.
1:30:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we do drop that it just has, you know, bigger impact.
1:30:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're sitting on some fucking bangers sitting on ice.
1:30:08
[SPEAKER_02]: You said can we talk about timeline to get mastered in the next few months.
1:30:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love that.
1:30:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, before the summer.
1:30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, before the summer.
1:30:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we just summer ends.
1:30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We, yeah.
1:30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Before the summer ends, we just, we just full speed ahead, man.
1:30:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, we could turn it on right away.
1:30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I think we broke the mold of like waiting on labor.
1:30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm independent.
1:30:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do whatever the fuck I want.
1:30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I mean in at any point I might just just drop it to drop it.
1:30:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's it's there.
1:30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's ready I would love to share with you guys.
1:30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to come back on and Absolutely any time you guys like you're one of our friends in real life.
1:30:41
[SPEAKER_04]: It's besides the show and shit And it's like I we also love your music Thanks selfishly.
1:30:46
[SPEAKER_04]: I want you to drop the fucking album.
1:30:47
[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing else out there.
1:30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some heat on it.
1:30:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it's out Yeah, what's what's come I mean Dana is that this conversation will you go?
1:30:53
[SPEAKER_03]: It's coming out.
1:30:54
[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing here.
1:30:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:30:56
[SPEAKER_04]: For whatever reason, nobody's really recording.
1:30:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Country is in that space.
1:31:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:31:00
[SPEAKER_04]: They're gasing out albums and brand new superstars and all that other stuff.
1:31:03
[SPEAKER_04]: But, uh, rap is fucking dead.
1:31:05
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what's crazy?
1:31:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, doing great.
1:31:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, USA'd stopped.
1:31:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:31:09
[SPEAKER_04]: But, oh, you're going to go there.
1:31:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're going to go there.
1:31:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, does that do you believe in that?
1:31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that true?
1:31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you got to ask Dustin about George Floyd and D.J.
1:31:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Screwshed.
1:31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you just drop the jam?
1:31:22
[SPEAKER_04]: George Floyd and G.J.
1:31:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Screw?
1:31:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can take my ear in for that.
1:31:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Jumping in there really quick, let them know.
1:31:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I just talked directly into the mic.
1:31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Two seconds here.
1:31:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh boy, so George Floyd was a Fed.
1:31:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And he infiltrated DJ Screw's operation.
1:31:40
[SPEAKER_00]: DJ Screw had vehicles lined up in front of his house every day.
1:31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And they thought he was selling drugs.
1:31:49
[SPEAKER_00]: but George Floyd infiltrated, said everything checked out, and that's that on that.
1:31:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea who any of these people are.
1:31:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I know George Floyd is.
1:31:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, Saint Floyd of a friend.
1:31:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize for that.
1:32:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't expect this evening.
1:32:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew the Kirby or enthusiasm music.
1:32:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Cheers, Joel.
1:32:13
[SPEAKER_04]: he could bring it up Jamie, but it's like just walking on for two minutes going to him and saying it's not real, uh, take care everybody about dude, uh, just tell me.
1:32:24
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't DJ screw is, uh, is that real?
1:32:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that a true story?
1:32:28
[SPEAKER_04]: A pair of hands on the mixtape, right?
1:32:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I, if you could find an audio, just something of it, I would love it more than life itself.
1:32:38
[SPEAKER_04]: In either way, that's a really fun Reddit conspiracy.
1:32:41
[SPEAKER_04]: So thank you for that, sorry.
1:32:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for your service today.
1:32:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
1:32:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, Zeus didn't know Santa wasn't real, so thanks for that.
1:32:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
1:32:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
1:32:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You've disappointed my favorite Mexican, and I'm upset.
1:32:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying he's not, um, obviously, I'm just saying, you know, like Megan Kelly is not black, but yeah, what she was, whatever, whatever.
1:32:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Should we talk about Candace Owens?
1:32:56
[SPEAKER_04]: What were added?
1:32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we've already gone down that yesterday in a whole week here.
1:32:59
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1:33:15
[SPEAKER_04]: he got it up right there and he found it took us that it was born for this shot dude you didn't really fucking find it dude holy cow why uh rap proposes fader fader's a big publication by the way this isn't like a
1:33:30
[SPEAKER_04]: a janky the 46-year-old unarmed black man who was a funny apple is police earlier this week once wrapped in DJ screws legendary Houston do you think you trademarked the phrase big Floyd because if not we're making some merch today wow do big Floyd yeah man
1:33:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Why don't you kneel, why don't you kneel, I mean, we, boy, I can go down a fucking rabbit hole.
1:33:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Greg, AJ in the chat, fake Craig's, uh, gave us a hundred bucks.
1:33:58
[SPEAKER_03]: He says, Oh, it's shit.
1:33:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's shit.
1:34:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, damn.
1:34:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's shit.
1:34:02
[SPEAKER_04]: George Floyd was George Floyd in the game.
1:34:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I like how they're talking about like his accolades and like, is the, is the pregnant woman held at knife point in there?
1:34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be.
1:34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a, that was a bogo deal.
1:34:11
[SPEAKER_04]: He got to find one.
1:34:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:34:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
1:34:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
1:34:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
1:34:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
1:34:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
1:34:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you don't like a fucking good deal.
1:34:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought you were a cat or a bitch, okay?
1:34:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you.
1:34:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck off.
1:34:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get out of here.
1:34:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate you tuning in, go to our championship five start.
1:34:25
[SPEAKER_04]: And leave a quick review.
1:34:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, I don't know where to spot if I video will be up on Sunday night at 8 p.m.E.S.T.
1:34:33
[SPEAKER_04]: gentlemen.
1:34:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for flying out.
1:34:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate you being here with us today.
1:34:37
[SPEAKER_04]: For David and Anthony Holloway, I'm Ross Fatterson.
1:34:39
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the drinking bro's podcast.
1:34:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Good night everyone.