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Bears Over Beers: Bye Week Vibes, New Stadium Thoughts · 2nd City Gridiron

• 0:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: What is going on Chicago Bears fans?
• 0:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is Bears Overbears presented by Second City Gridiron, Ryan Drasty, Brian Ornchuk, and for the first time since October 13th, 2024, the Chicago Bears have won two games in a row, Brian, how you doing tonight?
• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic, my man, fantastic, you know, it's by week.
• 0:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we didn't necessarily have to meet up with everybody today,
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: coming off a big upset, come from behind, dramatic finish, and we have a huge game coming up after this by week.
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So stoked to be here, man.
• 0:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot to talk about, you know, in Bears World, and I can't wait to get to it with you here about what you're drinking first, man.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you got?
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I, I was trying to think about this.
• 1:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know if I had had this one on the pot or not.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I might have last year at some point, but let's be honest.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Last year we were drowning our misery in these beers when we had the show and you're right.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now we're feeling pretty good.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: 500 feels good as a bear's fan after the last few years.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, certainly furious.
• 1:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I guess it doesn't really fit the theme because I'm not furious tonight, Brian, I'm feeling really well, but this is one of my all-time favorite beers.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would say, yeah, I would say when I first got into craft beer,
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah, I guess I got into a little bit before this, but this is like around 2010 when my wife and I got together, she's a Minnesota.
• 1:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this was the used to only be sold in Minnesota.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So when we would go up to visit her family, I'd bring back multiple six packs of this.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: They only hold six pack tall boys at the time.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now you can get this beer all over the Midwest.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's wild, but it's still one of my all-time favorite IPAs.
• 2:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just keep it around all the time.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like more of an amber IPA has like some piney notes to it.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: A little malt flavor.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's really good.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when I had it the first time, it was like one of the strongest IPAs I ever had.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now the way IPAs have kind of evolved over time.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: pretty tame.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's a little bit like 7.5 a percent.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is 6.7.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, 7 years, very 7 percent.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Iconic, hoppy, and aggressive.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's all the Twin Cities.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Really good brewery.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've toured a couple of times.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got some good food up there.
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you're in Minneapolis, check out early.
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely, they were on the cutting edge of breweries, craft breweries in Minnesota here, like in the last 10 to 15 years I would say.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you got?
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I actually am trying something new from one of my favorite breweries.
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a local brewery and it is I believe the oldest craft brewery in Asheville and it's Highland brewery.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now this
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... bring on the good vibes is what it says on the on the box six pack lounging on our by week you know and we're doubling up on our wins so i got a double IPA here uh... and uh... excited about this one i love i love a good double IPA love a juicy IPA especially and uh...
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: looking forward to crack and this one opened.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, so Highland Brewery was, I think 1994 is when it opened up in Asheville.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: It has morphed into a pretty substantial process.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you ever make it to Asheville, it is a must visit.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: We obviously have, we talked about Sierra Nevada.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've got that out here now.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've got new Belgium out here now, but those aren't natives.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a brewery as a native and it's a really really cool spot indoor outdoor venue Really really awesome place great beer looking forward to sipping on this one man.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes Cheers.
• 4:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you got the matching certainly glad.
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to point that out my bears on Rebears one.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I use the other night, so it's not clean right now.
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got to clean that but
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good stuff, good, good, good.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, as you said, Brian, we were debating.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's by week, do we do a show this week or not?
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think last year the show went on break.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, during by week, I can't remember for sure.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: We were, you know, all kind of rotating as host last year, but we felt like, yeah, you know, we're coming off a pretty, maybe not, you know, the most stylish win, but still an important win.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got some stuff to talk about.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's bare stadium news out there.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to hit on that tonight.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, final thoughts on the win over Vegas and all of that, and pretty much just going to be a free flowing show tonight.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you are all in the chat, let us know if you're
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll talk about anything tonight.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: We want to, you know, have you guys help us drive the show tonight as we get going.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Brian, as I said, it was not the prettiest win, but you know, as someone famous once said, just win, baby, and the Chicago Bears just won.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they did what they needed to do.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just, to me, it felt so good to win a game like that, because it seems like
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: God, for how long now.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, going back to the Hail Mary against the Packers in 2013, it feels like we're always losing these close games.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: The double-doinck, you know, the blocked feels goal against the Packers, the Hail Mary last year, for us to actually come out on top in one of these ugly games where you need kind of a miracle play like that at the end.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Although really wasn't much of a miracle, we'll get into that here.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they scouted that very well.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: God, it felt good though to finally get one of those wins.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, Las Vegas Raiders, I guess, but you know what, I still feel a bit about it.
• 6:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So no apologies here.
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no apologies at all.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's part of this game we play.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as you said, we've been on the wrong side of these results.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: For as far as I can remember, just last year, we had at least 9 or 10 one score games.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: one of them, maybe if you count the Titans game last year, we won one of them.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess you can count the Rams game too, but like you said, Blockfield goals, Mistfield goals at the end, I feel like my memory is burned with Packers losses like that.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I told my, I told my brother and family before the game, I said, yeah, I have a bad feeling about this game.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're on the road, you know, in a game we should win against an inferior opponent.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's, and it's typically, especially when we play against a non-conference opponent that we should be on the road, just had the makings of an ugly loss, um, you know, I'm used to it.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then sure enough, we did not play.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good ball.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: We did not play good ball.
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I actually would go out in a lemon and say, we lost the defensive battle.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: We lost the offensive battle, but we dominated special teams, and we got turnovers.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what sealed the deal.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we're not used to that.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was an ugly game penalty.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: We lost a penalty game as well.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, Ben Johnson was pissed at half time, which we didn't even talk about potentially bringing that subject up, you know, but that has become a non-issue, but I, you know, I don't really care about the feelings of a reporter or his feeling, but what I, what I do care about is his intensity at half time.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: his his resolve at halftime and and I would have loved to have been a flying the wall at halftime to learn and hear how he addresses his team and we saw them come out and we saw them play better football in the second half and and that's what I was most you know excited to see but um but to come out with a win man after all that
• 8:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're not used to that.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so that that felt almost better to me than the Cowboys win because we snuck away with one and we are, you know, we don't do that as bears fans.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that was fun.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it put us in position where we wanted to be right now going to the buy two and two.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: with, you know, the rest of the season, you know, really at our fingertips.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, Stoke, man, stoked about that victory on the road, especially when you gave up so many yards of points to Ash and Jensie, who we talked about, you know, stud coming out of Boise State.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, um,
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: and we let up a lot of yards on the ground to him, but we had some guys step up, man.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you gave out game balls to everybody it seems, but we had a lot of guys that deserved this week for sure, especially on, you know, on the defensive side.
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, peek behind the scenes, Brian's hazing me on text message.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, wait just a second.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: What is this shit?
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're giving out how many game balls?
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it might be a cop out a little bit, but God, I think, I mean, I felt like I had to honor multiple people on, you know, like, you know, I've been really hard on Cairo, but he came through many multiple field goals.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think two over 50 yards.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, obviously Josh Blackwell with the, with the block at the end.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, on defense,
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, he showed up, he's elevated his game this year under Dennis Allen, no question about it.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I felt like he deserved his props, and then an offense on the game won, Rome.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Rome is just having an unreal year, top 10 wide receiver in the week, so far this year, had to go with him, you know, most of the rest of the offense, and Caleb had an OK game.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't like some of his other games, you know, obviously wasn't as good as Dallas, but he had an OK game, not game ball, where the end thing, but Rome was very good.
• 10:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kaled made plays when he needed to make plays.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen this from him.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: He has put the team in position to win when the chips are down.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can do it.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen it multiple times going back to last year.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then we get Washington last year.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then the defense didn't hang out.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he's done this.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen him do this.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, he had a up and down game.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: But that's one of the things that gives me the most confidence in him moving forward.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can shrug off that stuff.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he can hit the field for that game winning drive potentially.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just that dude like he has that confidence.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't had many quarterback like that in Chicago.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, I, I like Justin.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: He, you know, I was a fan.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I supported him the whole way through.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still hope he has success.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But by his last year in Chicago when he went in the fourth quarter, he almost knew what was going to be a fumble or a turnover.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just happened all the time.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I don't have that vibe with Caleb.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, despite, yeah, some errors throughout the game, he came through and we needed it.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think the story on offense is Rome.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Doomsday was just once again, had a really good game.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And just the connection that him and Caleb have, you know, is outstanding.
• 11:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, you said it.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: The defense last week on the show, when we talked about what we expected going to this game,
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think we both were like, you know, I think Ash and Gentie might have his breakout game because we can't stop the run.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that we could still win even if he had the breakout game because I figured our offense would score more than we did.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, luckily our defense forced some of those turnovers because otherwise it could have been ugly, but, you know, that proved to be the case.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: He had an unbelievable game as best game as a pro average over six yards of carry and yet the bear still walked on top, Brian.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so first and foremost, if any of you guys know of a beer brewery called participace and trophy rhyme would like a piece of it.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, so like you said, Caleb's got that clutch factor.
• 12:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you see the back and forth between him and Max Crosby?
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then I saw Max talking about, well, then I heard Caleb after the game talked about Max's, the best players ever played against, and then Max kind of returned that compliment, Caleb's a competitor, kept getting up, coming for more.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it looked like they were trash talking during game, absolutely.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was intense all game, and to have a guy like that, breathing down your neck, all game, making plays, all game, and still compete, and put your team in position to succeed.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I loved it.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: come back fourth quarter come back wins on his record if we didn't get a feel-go-block or you know whatever last season.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: The same thing happened a lot.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: He drove down, think about that the the timeout game with with Eberfu some Thanksgiving.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he was putting them in positions to win that game too.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so he's got that clutch factor.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like what you had to say about this week.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love to see it.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you always feel like you have a chance and and that's that's really cool.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, I'm concerned about our defense.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm very concerned.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's sustainable for us to get the turnovers that we've had.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love seeing Kevin buyer back there, you know, look and vintage vintage all pro KB with the Titans.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, the ascension of Tyreak has been a site for sore eyes.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just need some, we need some run defense man, you know, some bodies up front that can stop them.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were getting, I mean, before the game, the raiders were one of the worst, if not the worst run off fence in the league.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're often why I was struggling to make holes and get space for ash.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was getting hit behind the line of scrimmage.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about that last week.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: He led the league in percentage of his yards.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: before or after contact in behind the line of scrimmage and
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: They dominated us, man.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Aside from a few plays here and there, big buildings made an impact a couple times, other than that, he was getting washed out or just irrelevant.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Ash and had room to run.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when you give that guy, or guys like that, space, bad things happen.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we saw.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm concerned about that.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: But hopefully we can get some guys healthy on the D-line, get some past rush back with Austin Booker,
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: more close to full health than he's been on a year.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was off this last week given another week to heal up Shamar Turner another, you know, another couple weeks in the system.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I liked what I saw from him But yeah, I'm I'm with you.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think if if we have a quarterback that can keep you in at the end of the game coordinate or like we've got and then
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: and an opportunistic defense who's hopefully getting some bodies back, you know, talk about Kyler Gordon a lot on here, TJ Edwards, and you get those guys back, Austin Booker, we said, hopefully eventually at some point, Jalen Johnson, you know, it's going to be a big deal for our defense.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully it mitigates some of that rush defense allowance that we give out, but
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, either way, take the W. We didn't do as good as we would have wanted on either side of the ball.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, aside from the turnovers, it was ugly performance.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was not fun to watch as bears fans.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was frustrating throughout.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure all of you here can attest to that.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: But at the end of the day, when it mattered most, we had more points than them.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: when the final whistle blew.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So cheers to that bearish hands, you guys enjoy it.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You deserve it.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been too many years of watching that sort of thing go, not our way, and boom, it feels good.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: We get to get to revel in it for another week and a half.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: before we get one day night against the commis in DC so we'll see just a gigantic game and then it's another one of those situations where we're going to have to wait through the whole weekend just like we wanted to that game you know coming out of the by week I guess it's good for our health and exactly.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: hopefully getting some of these guys back because you know we talk about yeah we're concerned about the defense for sure i mean they got no pushing that game gino Smith was not touched in the game you know and and that that makes it all the more standing how awful he played you know he had all day to throw he threw 21 passes three of them were picked off one and seven only had 117 yards passing yeah
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, Ash and Jenty, just 21 carries 138 yards, 6.6 per carry.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've been struggling to stop the run.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: We do have a ton of dudes out.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so there's hope.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, there's, we also have a lot riding on some guys that we, we haven't seen it from in the regular season.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned Shimart Turner, hopefully that, you know, he can start being a regular contributor, Austin Booker on the way.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Austin's a guy who we saw in preseason tearing it up, but we haven't seen it in the regular season.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: that he can develop into a really solid past pressure.
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think he can be that guy, but we got to see it still.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Montez is a guy who some weeks you see him out there, other weeks you watch the whole game, you don't even realize the guys on the team.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, for a guy of making as much money as he makes, that's unacceptable.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: TJ, one of our best, you know, in run defense linebacker, getting him back will be huge.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously, guy, we're putting like third string DBs out there.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So to get Kyler to play for the first time this year.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that Tyreek is elevated his game so much.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's, that will make the burden of losing Jalen, it's, that's always gonna hurt.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the best corners in the league.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: But if you have a guy like Tyree who stepped up his game and then he get Kyler back in there, you know, you can stop the bleeding a little bit and then who knows?
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: If we stay in the mix down the down the road this year, maybe we get Jalen back, it's going to be a huge bump at a time when that schedule gets really, really difficult late in the year.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's hopeless.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: We just got, we just got to stack some wins here, Brian.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, there's, there's some games coming out of the, the by week here, where there's a real opportunity.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think for the bears to win like, I could see I wouldn't for the next six.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even five.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: If things go, you know, we, we're going to need this defense to perform.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to need some of those guys to get healthy.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, but we can talk about the schedule come out of the buy.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can put it on the screen here.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do that.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And while you're doing that, I just want to say a couple things.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is our first buy week with this new coaching staff.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am fascinated to see some of the changes that they could make on both sides of the ball.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: will stick on defense for now, but especially with Kyler Gordon, who in my opinion is the most versatile chess piece that we have on defense for Dennis Allen, who likes those sort of players.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: He played and has been mentioned to be able to play over the offseason by Dennis Allen and other coaches.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He all over the field on defense.
• 19:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's been known for playing slot.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can also play the outside boundary corner.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can play safety.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can play linebacker.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can do it all.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what's he going to do?
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do they want to keep Nishon right out there?
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do they want to put Kyler out on the boundary and base packages and have him in Tyreak?
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: and then keep stool in there who's been playing well with TJ and Tramaine to help with that run defense.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that makes a lot of sense, Ryan.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, but do they do that or do they keep him on in nickel and just have more of it?
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fascinated to see how they do that.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we've talked about the booker a lot.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: At some point, you should so the picture of of your daughter with Booker on one of these episodes, because Booker is our favorite, but
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But Booker reminds us of a young Mark Anderson, who is a third defensive and past-rust specialist.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're not getting any juice from our ends right now.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if he can come in and provide some of that juice and get after the quarterback, starting with Jane Daniels on Monday night, then that's gonna open things up from Montez and the other guys opposite him because he's gonna get some attention.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that would be so huge for our team to be able to get off the field on third down, get off of the quarterback and maybe get some sacks and better our field position a little bit.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, excited to see that too.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, you're looking at a schedule here, you know, if, and commanders are getting healthy, Jay Nails is back healthy practicing, although they're still down a couple receivers, Dibo and Terry McCorn did not practice today.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: But they go on the road and play the chargers in LA.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: This week, they don't have a buy.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they're gonna come in, you know, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not, you know, who knows, but we are going to be as fresh as we've been all
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: and we got that revenge factor.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: If we can get that win, all of a sudden you got the same so I think are on the contention easily for the number one overall pick as with the Bengals who we have a couple weeks later.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then the Ravens who are have way more of an injury issue than we do at this point.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: with some studs that are not eligible to play right now.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: The Marjacks and being one of them, Roadquants, Smith being another.
• 21:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are a lot of guys that play great all-pro level ball are pro ball at least on the Ravens that are not healthy right now.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if we get a hobbled up Ravens team after stringing a couple of wins together and NFC planned,
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden you're looking at a pretty solid win streak potentially going on right here.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if we can carry that momentum to that Vikings game and the Steelers and the Eagles where it's going to really start to stiffen up a bit, you know, who knows, man, a sky's a limit.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that the bears and Ben are really eager to get the Vikings back, Caleb as well.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm excited about that one.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And obviously we know the Giants lost their best player last weekend to Malik Neighbors.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all of the sudden things are looking a little bit different, and it's really all because we got that win in Vegas.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm liking the way it's set up.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I still think the Eagles are a powerhouse.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't expect to win that game, you know, really under any circumstances, unless Lane Johnson, you know,
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I'm excited to see some of the young guys step up, which I don't know if you want to talk now, but you know, regarding some changes on the offense, what's going to happen with that offensive line, man, what have you been hearing about the left tackle spot?
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to that in just a second.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Finish up the schedule here.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think, you know, I agree with you on what you said about the commanders.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think the night the schedule came out.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: We did the show with Jacob.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about how, you know, like on paper is going to be a really tough game, but you also have that motivating factor of, you know, then who seems to be just an ultra motivating coach from everything we've seen.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's the game that ruined our season last year.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we play them out there again, where it happened, you know, the side of the crime.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, like you said, there's some health issues there.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Jayden's coming back this week, but you know, who knows what it's gonna look like the week after.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you've got to imagine these guys want to get some revenge for what happened last year.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I know the Washington fans are gonna be thinking that too.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like if I was a commander's fan, I'd be thinking like, oh shit.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: The bears are going to come in here.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's you might think you're going to win on paper, but like they're going to be angry.
• 23:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: They learn what happened last.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's the kind of game as a fan that would make me nervous about the other team.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they're feeling that.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then you come home and get the Saints.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: God, they better win that game, you know, I'll be at that game.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: They better win.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, nice.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, I hope we hope that we have Alvin Kumar on our team by then.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: That'd be awesome.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: We can pull a trade for a guy like that.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: It happened.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: But either way, yeah, we should win that game.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about that too.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously Ryan Paul has been aggressive in the past, trading in season, you know, with mods and claypool, and you know who knows?
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be against trying to get running back in here.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a big problem.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very, very big problem on the steam.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Saints, whether or not they look different, that should be a win, like you said, Ravens.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think it's more win-able than I thought at the beginning of the year.
• 24:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think going into the year, I thought there's no way there's gonna win that game.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I mean, 70, 30, what?
• 24:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we have more wins in them right now.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's possible.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And certainly possible, bangles are just horrid right now.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to have Joe Burrow.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's probably out for the season, so that should be a win.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Giants, for God's sake, that should be a win too.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah, you get the revenge factor against the Vikings too.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, those are six games right there.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're honestly like, though four of them almost certainly should be wins.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel.
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, one of those other two,
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: should be a win.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I could be a win.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I should say, you know, we'll see what happens.
• 25:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Then you get the Steelers.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bears got to want to put a loss and Aaron Rogers.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then the Eagles game like you talked about.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, this is where you got to stack those wins because as I scroll down,
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we get the Browns later, which, you know, what, the Browns be the Packers?
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Never know.
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's given Sunday in this, in this league.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Packers twice, Niners lines again.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, yeah, it does get harder down the line.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of games.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's like a point in the schedule here where the games are pretty close together.
• 25:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: November 23rd with the Steelers 28th with the Eagles at five days later, you know, so
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: we got to stack some wins now is what we're saying like this this is the window where we got to do it we we remember last year when we went into the season and there was that stretch where it looked like the bears could run off a bunch of games in a row was a soft spot the schedule it was like Arizona New England in there but it was right after the hail Mary and they ended up like dropping all those games right that can't happen can't happen so no
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: If there's a real opportunity here, we feel good at two and two because if we were one and three, this is, there's just a world of difference between one and three and two and two.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, you know, we're a lot.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: We can make this thing interesting.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: One and three, you're feeling like you're way behind the eight ball.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And credit to this team and this coaching staff for pulling themselves out of an o and two hole and making themselves relevant at this point, you know, at the by week.
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is where we wanted to be.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, man, how we not won that game in Vegas, I would not be feeling good about this.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even if we came back, even if maybe we kicked it over time and then lost, I would not be feeling good.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's because that's what we're used to.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're used to, but this is a new coaching staff.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is a new culture we have at Halle's Hall.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I fully expect us to be able to win these games and we should win, moving forward.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, think about our schedule thus far.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: We dropped our first game ever with this new coaching staff in embarrassing fashion on Monday night.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: some pretty epic breakdowns on both sides of the ball, mostly defense, I would say.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And since then, we lost a game, you know, Super Bowl for the Detroit lines who look like a contender again this year, by the way, that Packers just happened to have their number week one, which was an anomaly in my opinion, because I've never been a huge
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: believe for the Packers, I think they're overrated perennially.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But either way, the lions that our game I wouldn't say in Detroit week two, we should have won.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: We won against Dallas, kick their tails.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we won against Vegas.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: We should have won that game.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: We did not play well enough to win, but we won.
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, let's just see how this plays out.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we definitely on paper should beat the commanders.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not as elite of a teamer, as good of a team as they seem to be last year.
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, they've got some injuries up front, which is pretty big for Jaden.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's hobbled, you know, can we get after him who knows?
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's gonna be key.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I have faith in our coaches, you know, for the games like the Saints we talked about.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: the bangles and the giants.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now that I've seen what we can do against the Raiders on the road, I've got some faith against those teams for sure.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I also felt a lot better about the team when I watched that game between Green Bay and Dallas.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And soccer in Bay give up 40 points of the Dallas Cowboys.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: A team discord 14 points against the hoveled Chicago Bears defense.
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: And again, we know any given week, any given Sunday, crazy stuff happens in this league.
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like my god,
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Micah Parsons is out there.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't stop him.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and so for all the talk about Green Bay Super Bowl, God forbid, it still could happen, but I agree with you.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think they're kind of overrated right now.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you and I have talked about the quarterback on text a little bit recently, and he's fine.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't inspire fear in me as a bear's fan like the last two guys, though.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm always going to feel like we got a chance against them.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what happens when we play him.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man, it's the big problem.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about it now.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned Kamara and, you know, there's also been people talking about, like, briefs, haul, I've seen stuff about, although now I guess it's been linked to the cardinals.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Would you pull a trade for a running back because I mean, this is such a big problem right now, man, I mean, the fact that Caleb is having the year he's having with a, but he's quarterback rating pass rating is in the high 90s, I want to say with no run game is pretty incredible for a second year quarterback and you know, two turnovers to two interceptions.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: with no run game supporting him.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, yes, some of it's going to be on the online for sure, but like, I don't know.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're not, we haven't been huge fans of Swift.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Manungai looks okay in spurts, not a world leader, but looks competent.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Rochon just can't get on the field outside of special teams.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what's going on there.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's had flashes in the past where I thought maybe he'd be a competent running back, but
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you had an opportunity, if you're Ryan Polls, and there's an opportunity to trade for a guy during the season like this, would you do a Brian?
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: For Ryan?
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not yet.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not yet.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the main problem is the offensive line at this point.
• 31:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know I've seen the metrics, I've seen the advanced statistics of the run blocking and the expected yards per carry based on the run blocking availability, all the success rate crap, but I've also watched the games and the start difference for me was first second half in Vegas.
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: what they do at the end of the second quarter, they bench Braxton Jones, moved Theo Benedict over to left tackle and put in Ozzie at right tackle.
• 31:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden, we can move the ball on the ground when we need to.
• 31:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's what's gonna come down to is getting this line more in sync and talk about it all season, you and I on this podcast is very podcast getting that line in sync.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're starting to do a better job in the past pro, although it wasn't great this past week.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: granted, it was against one of the best players in the league who had one of his best games ever.
• 31:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was just dominant all over the field looked faster, stronger, longer.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was everywhere.
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: He even had like soft hands and was quick with the ball when he intercepted it after batting it that like he would a monster insane.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what was you get to have that guy in the Chicago Bears?
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: My god.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember there was a time?
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember when he was on the trade block potential?
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I remember the rumors.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So so I would say not yet.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would say let because they're going to do something at left tack when I have some thoughts on that, but let them settle into their adjustments after the by week.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: See how we perform these next couple weeks if we're still struggling by the time the deadline rolls around.
• 32:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: then I'd absolutely be down.
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can get, because here's another thing too, is there's a number of running backs who might have been available had there not been injuries to their teams.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so let's let some of those guys maybe get healthier again, let their depth chart fill back up and then potentially pull a trigger for a brief haul, how huge on.
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He went Iowa State, you're right around the street from David Montgomery, you know, shoe step, following guy and I think
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he's kind of a mix between Montgomery and Gibbs, if you ask me, I think he's a stud.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm big on Kamara.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Kamara's a little bit older than we would like right now, but he is everything.
• 33:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's far the skill set is concerned that Ben Johnson would love.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think there's some guys out there potentially.
• 33:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I also think we can make do with what we have.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am bigger on Swift than almost everybody at Wendy City Gridiron.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not the staff.
• 33:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about the staff, although I would venture to say, I am bigger on everybody on the staff.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: But definitely most people that I congregate with in the daily den and the comment section,
• 33:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I'm higher on swift and most people and you know he he put a damn when it mattered last week.
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had a couple runs that were good and Manangai has shown it to you mentioned Rochon.
• 34:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about Rochon and training can't lean up to the season.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was having a strong training camp and he was the number two guy in training camp.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: When pads came on they were goal-line crushing him scoring touchdowns in padded practices.
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: consistently.
• 34:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was like the main thing.
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: He even looked good like he had some hands and subdues in the passing game.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then he got hurt.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's not had any opportunities since then.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know, like you said, I don't know what's going on with him.
• 34:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I would love to see him activated.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even if it's just for one or two runs a game to kind of set the tone, you know, I remember his first game ever against the Packers and he ran over that Packer safety.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: like that's a type of attitude and style that you need to implement in a run game for the defense to respect you just a little bit more.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then all of a sudden you'll know what they're going to do boom, Caleb can throw a play action, you know, over the linebacker's head to the tight end or who member.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I say we're fine now, Ryan.
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I say we're okay.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see it.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have more concerns at left tackle, at defensive end, defensive tackle than I have it running back.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like tomorrow a lot.
• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about trading for him, just based on age and giving up.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Assuming that you'd be given up, you know, drafts capital for that.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Breeze hauled, I definitely would be more tempted on.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I like what you said about, you know, kind of waiting for these injuries to settle out when the depth charts recover a little bit and then maybe you don't have to overpay as much.
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a solid rationale there.
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you look at this online and you were talking about when they moved Theo over and they bring an Aussie, I know that they didn't have the greatest grades from
• 35:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I test-wise I had I need to watch it back again.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I watched the game live and then I watched it a second time You know the condensed version I I feel like I need to watch it another time just watch the online closely, but it felt live like after they made that switch Like there was a drastic improvement in the pretentment Yourastic and you know, so I was kind of surprised when I saw the grades were so low because it was like
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, like, Crosby was still getting in there, but not as much as before they made the move.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I did watch.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did want to, I want to NFL plus and I isolated Aziz plays a little bit.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there were times where you had Crosby just go right, wrapped him for sure.
• 36:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You would expect that, you know, it's like, what a great, a D-Lineman, Ed rushers in the NFL, but Aziz brand new.
• 36:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he also held up decent against him on some plays.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I liked what I saw.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, just that little shake up there, for sure gave them the spark, like Ben talked about in the post game.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you think, you know, so Theo at left tackle, Braxton getting benched, Ozzie at right tackle, you think that how that's how they're going to settle in or what was your thought on that?
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: To me, it all depends on Darnell rights, Darnell elbow.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, and that kind of throws a wrench in things.
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my hypothesis, if you were to put a gun to my head right now, is that they moved him to left tackle this week.
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Back in March, after Ben just got the job, Ben Johnson himself, compared Donald Wright to Penae's soul.
• 37:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Penaisuil was an all-world tackle drafted in the top five back when he came out of Oregon.
• 37:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know this, but he was one of those guys that he was a left tackle, can play either side and dominate.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: They had Taylor Decker, they still have Taylor Decker, so Suil has locked down the right side and is arguably top two tackle in the lead right now.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: He compared him to Penaisuil, later in the summer, right before season started.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He referred to Darnell Wright as a unicorn.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was talking about how he would all sorts of things with and through Darnell Wright, scheming the offense through and around his skill set.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then they go out and draft a right tackle.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody knew why, because we needed a left tackle.
• 38:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan, I propose to you this.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's because they viewed Darnell Wright as a left tackle.
• 38:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, they didn't want to, you know, throw some things around.
• 38:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got some bad tape at college at Tennessee at left tackle, but he has been a pro in the league a couple years now.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have a need at left tackle.
• 38:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: As he did not lock that down, Darnell Wright is our best offensive lineman.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Arguably given we got two in the now, but he is easily our best tackle.
• 39:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think if he's healthy enough, they're gonna try him out at left tackle.
• 39:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: If not, I think the line-up coming out of this by week, if he's not healthy enough or whatever, I think we're going to minimum C-bracks and on the bench and the what left tackle if they want to keep Darna.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: If Darna writes healthy enough, they don't want him at left tackle, he'll play right.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: but I hope given the way Ozzy looked at right tackle against Max Crossby, who was having a burner of a game and he held his own man.
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did not look at a position and we have seen bad tackle play in Chicago.
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can I get an A man and a cheers?
• 39:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey man, it's rehab.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: My God.
• 39:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ozzy looked the part.
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: He looked the part.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 39:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And keep him in there.
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let him develop.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the reason I think they're going to do it in this week is because last year, or that may, I think it was last year, may have been knows two years ago, his rookie year.
• 40:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: He played against Max Crosby with with with one arm and shut him down on the right side.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, Grinsson, new coaching staff, they brother in the new training staff, all that.
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they might be more conservative, but they got a buy week right now.
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: They held them out last week.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: My guess.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: is they slide him over.
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody thinks it's going to be Theo, but it's Darnell Wright come to the comedy's game.
• 40:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we got Ozzy on the right side.
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we're cooking on all cylinders.
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden Swift, who, by the way, had over 100 yards rushing against the commander's last year in that game?
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: blew up with some explosive runs.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that run gains back on track.
• 40:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just want them to get Rochon involved, even if it's just for like one or two carries for a fourth down conversion, you know, make that happen.
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get put that physicality.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not big on these quarterback sneaks, these push push, get your running guys, the ball that know how to do it, they're trained to do it, especially with this offensive line, especially with Rochon who was top three in the league.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was number one in the league in short-yardish conversions.
• 41:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to see him in there, convert some stuff, amp him up this team, galvanizing them, pumping everybody up, but I say, wait on the trade, let's see what we can do, but I do expect our now right on that left side.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's a bad idea.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people are concerned about how do you feel about moving a right tackle to the left side, honest with me.
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, I'm not against it.
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like Darnell is actually, you know, he's kind of taking a step back this year to be honest about it.
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's, you know, he's not been maybe as good as we've seen in the past.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Still, he's one of our best linemen.
• 41:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, I know that.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, you said it.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: He has played, he played, he started 13 games I believe at left tackle at Tennessee.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned the tape isn't super great up and down.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he said, yeah, if this coaching staff sees him as a versatile guy, I think that that's probably the best case scenario because then all of a sudden your first round guy is playing over their left tackle position and you've solved that huge hole.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: in his first long stretch of playing time, looks really way better than I expected against one of the best
• 42:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you got that center of the line with all that talent that we've assembled if Jonah Jackson could step things up a bit.
• 42:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that.
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's starting to look really good.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, if they can adjust and start opening up some holes.
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I'm not like a huge fan of the Andre Swift.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: You like a more than me.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not super negative on him.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just get really frustrated about
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we've seen this from two different coaching staffs now how when they run them up the middle like this is never worked with the address, why are we doing this, but if you get to if you get the guy out in space, you know, he is dangerous with the ball we've seen that and to his credit when they've needed the yards at the ends of games this year he's delivered you know that touchdown run he had on Sunday where he popped it out to the left side.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was tremendous stuff.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was terrific there.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he can do it for sure.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, you got to have the right guys around him.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to have someone else change a pace that can run it up the middle.
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I've always thought it was Rochon.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't understand what's going on with him.
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're obviously we're not in the building.
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're not seeing what's happening in practice.
• 43:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: But in the times we've seen him, he seemed like the guy that could pound the rock up the middle.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I would like to see him get in some of those carries. 100%.
• 43:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I mean, you know, having a seventh round or contributing is a good thing, right?
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Typically it's a great thing.
• 43:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and Manangai has, he has looked, he has looked like he belongs in the league too.
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, he had some tough runs, some just feisty runs.
• 44:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think his energy that he brought when he got the ball, I think that inspired Swift.
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could be totally wrong.
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like after that, Swift was running with more decisiveness and attitude.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what Swift needs to do in his game.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Run with more decisiveness and attitude because he tries to kind of,
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was almost going to say bad word, but he tries to pick his feelings when it comes to when it comes to, you know, finding the whole, he's timid and he kind of, he's too, he's too soft.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, and he needs to just go because he's got the speed.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he can go and get in the open field, one of the things that people talk about with Swift is he has got bad vision.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is such crap.
• 44:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do not, I do not, I played running back.
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has great vision.
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, granted, there's a difference between, you know, in the muck and then in space, for sure.
• 44:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: But in the muck is not about vision as much as it's, it's, it's decisive, it's a decision.
• 45:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, and for God, that's God, vision, it's got speed.
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You want to get, any, every running back wants to get in space,
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: he wants to get out in that space because he knows he's more dangerous there now and that's what biannemy talked about this offseason was it was making him more decisive into the whole bottom line swift can get it done he has gotten it done people hate on swift i understand why i understand why his yards per carry
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: His expected yards average is is is not good so far, but our run I mean if our run offense Our offensive line was doing where job there were not had been a switch in the second quarter last week I don't care what the metrics say and all these fancy websites Ben Johnson would not have pulled their long time starting left tackle for an undrafted second year player who's 23 24 years old
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I run if for our run game he specifically said for our run game one of you get some juice the run game If if our run game was working yeah, he wouldn't have done it.
• 46:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: So let's see how these new guys can can adjust and and and and wait a little bit on this trade.
• 46:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm open to trade but like I said
• 46:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Priorities for me, defensive tackle, bro.
• 46:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get a damn, gritty Jarrett old school.
• 46:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not the gritty Jarrett version we have, because he is playing not good.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Defense event, then you get me a left tackle, then a running back.
• 46:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those are my priorities.
• 46:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, can we get one of those guys, I'd be open to it, but,
• 46:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously comes at a cost, but let's see how it plays out with this new office of line combination before we make any moves.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is why I love doing a show with a former running back, you know, your stuff, man.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Excellent, good analysis.
• 47:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, when you said you're almost going to swear, I was going to say, that's all right, George McCaskey isn't listening.
• 47:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can swear for it.
• 47:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have a maybe one day.
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to work for the Chicago bearer.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would be cool, but we know you did a podcast on YouTube now.
• 47:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't swear on their name, Brian.
• 47:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had one of my interns checking you swear at 13 times.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's on the no entry list at Hallis Hall for that.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of bears facilities, let's talk about this.
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: We saw some renderings of the potential new stadium out in Arlington Heights.
• 47:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: To my knowledge, nobody on the second studio gardener has really talked about this week yet, so we thought maybe we could be the first.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll actually pull up the renderings here on our website, or our stream, the video stream.
• 47:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we can, we can take a look at it.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you watch the Vegas game, you saw.
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, yeah, pretty much.
• 48:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is basically, yeah, it's like basically a copy and paste deal.
• 48:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, here we go.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me share my screen here.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: We take a look at it.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're the calling it Arlington Heights Stadium right now.
• 48:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it's got Arlington Park Stadium.
• 48:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
• 48:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this is, you know, direct from the Bear's website.
• 48:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's pretty much what we saw when they were floating idea of building on the lake front, which I think almost nobody thought that was ever a real possibility, you know, I, I, I know that Warren and the guys, they say, oh, you know, we really wanted to do that.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I tend to think that that was leverage.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I never, I never saw how that was even feasible, you know, when they were talking about building that thing.
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just a little bit south.
• 48:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think a soldier like and starting.
• 48:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: There were been absolutely nowhere to park then the park is already an issue It was just hard to imagine them having them the funds to do it there
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, especially when they had this huge acreage out there in our Arlington Heights, which just seems so well set up for what they want to do with, you know, owning the stadium themselves and having this whole district around it, which would be, look, that'll be really exciting.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have been a proponent of building it in Arlington Heights.
• 49:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love the lakefront, but every time I go to a game, yeah, I mean, it's kind of a pain to get out of there.
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not against moving it out of the city if it's going to give us, you know, the the best game day situation.
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, when you look at these pictures here, my problem is to me, it looks too cookie cutter.
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I know some people will push back and say, you know, but by the time they actually build a thing, the interior is going to have a little bit more team flavor to it.
• 49:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's probably true.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think this initial design has a lot of,
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: for lack of a better term curb appeal, you know, like when you're looking at the house, because it looks so much like a legion, I don't want that era, you know, like the old stadiums like Bush Stadium and RFK, where they all look the same, just a big circle.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like that to me.
• 50:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't feel, Chicago is such a, I put this on Twitter today, Chicago is such a city known for its architecture.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe you go to any, I've been to all of major cities in America, New York, Chicago, Houston, whatever.
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Chicago's skyline is second to none.
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: No other city has a skyline like it, uniqueness of it, the creative architecture.
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for the bears to finally build a stadium and have it look so cookie cutter and just like a stadium that already exists, I just don't like that.
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe just do something that differentiates this from existing state like look at what they did up in Minneapolis.
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is one cool looking state of US bank looks phenomenal.
• 50:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I've only driven by I've been inside, but you know, I've seen a TV and I've seen it from the outside and it is such a unique look in place and this is just like a circle that looks just like a legent and the inside is just really nothing special to it Brian, where do your thoughts?
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, I'm right there with you.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to remove the Bears website logo from this screen and the Bears pictures there, you could not tell what city this was.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have no idea.
• 51:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a problem.
• 51:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: At least in Minnesota, Minnesota's got cool design.
• 51:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not worthy, but on the inside, you can tell at least because they've got the horn.
• 51:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, they've got that set up there and and there's there's zero things that I can tell that is is unique to Chicago and any of this.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I heard I think I saw one person say it's facing toward the skyline, but I don't see any buildings in that and that window.
• 51:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's far away.
• 52:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you'll be able to see it in the distance, probably, but like it's so I don't know that that makes it I think it was it was lazy and and like I feel like whoever did this.
• 52:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: they couldn't have considered that the current stadium and the history of the columns.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sandra, fucking field.
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry George.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing about it that screams that even whispers the bears.
• 52:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you have to have colonates.
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have to implement colonates somehow in the stadium.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Colonates, I mean, if you didn't have colonates, but you had like bare skins hanging down every and yards in the rafters instead of flags.
• 52:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, like something bare related, it could be different.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bear teeth for lights or something.
• 52:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like a bare jaw on the end, like around the windows.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Something.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like the bridge downtown Chicago is in and have the river turns green like like have a bridge to walk to the stadium.
• 53:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to be a genius a creative savant to think outside the box to connect to your audience and this is a piss poor effort and and I am annoyed that they're getting publicity and like a lot of people have said talk to me when the freaking shovels in the ground because this is this is.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: this it this to me seemed like you would get it it it talking about teaching right like you would get it a sea minus if you're lucky in my class with this nonsense yeah I was yeah
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I messes you, I think, or no, I, you respond to my tweet I think, because I was like, people under as underwhelmed, because I saw people celebrate.
• 53:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, a lot of people liked it, and I was stunned.
• 53:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was stunned, and I'm like, there's nothing special about it.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like what we've already seen.
• 53:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: The coolest part is what looks like grass tailgating fields.
• 53:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the part of the whole design.
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty much the exact design that they had for the lakefront one, but they're the window made sense because it would look right at the skyline and they have that in the models.
• 54:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was right there.
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but here it's just like, well, you're way out and I like to hide.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that that's like a huge draw to have the window right there.
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, maybe they'll, they'll super up a little bit and they'll add more character to the inside.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just,
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man.
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, even just the way the seats are situated, not a huge fan.
• 54:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, like there's really no 200 level for fans.
• 54:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, sweets and then the upper level.
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was complaining about one of my buddies who's a Niners fan that was out in the Bay Area.
• 54:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was like, hey, man, it's all right.
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: We hate our stadium too.
• 54:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, Levi's is a pretty plain Jane stadium.
• 54:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like, man, are we of one of this for years?
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted the bears to build a, you know, 21st century and actual 21st century stadium, not what they did with the renovation at Solter.
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And man, oh man, this is underwhelming as hell to me.
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just 60,000 people.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 55:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that fewer than Soldier Field currently?
• 55:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like a couple thousand?
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 55:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like this, I would have to give them a D. I give you a D.
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: come back when you're, when you're ready to talk to me.
• 55:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're trying to get $800 million from the state of Illinois to build infrastructure on this.
• 55:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I tell them, now I'm started until you redesign that thing.
• 55:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they're going to get that anyways to be honest with you.
• 55:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's going to pass, but so you, you, you make me think of a good point.
• 55:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is probably too optimistic of me to think, maybe they're one step ahead.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're thinking, okay, we're going to, you're in a low-bottom, low-bottom, make them, make them think that it's really, we're really bad at what we're doing.
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we're going to come back, undersell it and over-deliver with, okay, this is what we got, and they got colonies, they got bare stuff.
• 55:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've got all sorts of like cave mentality stuff, and they blow us all away.
• 56:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: everybody outside of state and state's given them money to make this happen, you know, that could be the case, but I doubt it.
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is underwhelming for sure.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 56:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 56:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we'll see how this develops, but this just seemed like you're actually in a publicly unveiled this design and it couldn't have been more unflattering, unexciting in my opinion.
• 56:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just was just so underwhelmed.
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys let us know what you think.
• 56:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can tweet us, add bears overbears and let us know your thoughts.
• 56:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I hope this is not the finished product.
• 56:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I hope this is just a starting point in the
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: change some things.
• 56:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do think in the end if they give this thing built, it's going to be so nice to just have that stadium district and it'll be a good time to, you know.
• 56:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: go to a game, maybe do some live podcasts out there, even Brian, but I worry years away from this, and I just wanted to do it right.
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to have a stadium for 20, 30 years or more, and be like, man, look at all these cool-ass stadiums are building, we have the most generic, like this is like, create a stadium on Madden, and you've made like two changes to it, and this is what we have.
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I'm in the future.
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: There are so many creative things happening out there with some of these stadium designs.
• 57:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like we mentioned, US Bank, such a cool stadium, even though what they're doing in Buffalo and Tennessee, and then it's like, yeah, I know Elegent is one of the best stadiums in the league, but it already exists.
• 57:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to copy of that.
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: We went something, something totally unique, you know, this franchise does or something unique if you're spending $3 billion on the stadium for guys.
• 57:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, and if you're going to move outside this city, like you've got to be extra unique, not or vanilla.
• 57:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 57:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm with you, man.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's funny how this this can take an up as much time as it did or so.
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you're right.
• 57:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And
• 58:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, but what's not the pressing is a two-game win streak heading into the by getting some guys healthy and I'm Monday night.
• 58:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, a lot of people, I'm pretty sure the Dallas game was the game of the week and a lot of people saw Caleb and that offense light it up.
• 58:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't see it live action like we did depressingly so against the Raiders, but they did see the win.
• 58:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to be, yep, we're going to be riding high in Washington after this by week.
• 58:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, be watching that commander's game against the Chargers, the Chargers by the way, are down to their second or third left tackle.
• 58:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: We could maybe trade, Braxton Jones to them, and who knows what we get in their turn, but that might be something that to consider, but I'm hoping that they beat up on the commanders and that they come in limping even more.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, Diane Henley, the linebacker there is a fast dude.
• 59:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully
• 59:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man, I've stoked about this Monday night game coming up.
• 59:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously got me a little bit, but yeah, we had to get on man big win ugly win, but there is no such thing as an ugly win ugly ball still got the win.
• 59:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of changes, a lot of a lot of guys coming back, a lot of question marks and excitement about how the team is going to address.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: this week with changes on both sides of the ball.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So thank you for joining us.
• 59:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's always a pleasure, my man.
• 59:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Likewise, even though you drink slow, which is kind of a problematic, but.
• 59:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know why.
• 59:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 59:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like in my defense, I've been nursing this beer because I went out after work today with a work friend to watch the Cubs game and had a few beers and I messaged Brian and I'm like, look, I know we get the podcast and I end the gimmick as we drink.
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've already been drinking, but I'm still going to pour one of this.
• 1:00:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, it comes, unfortunately, it comes and get the win.
• 1:00:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got the win yesterday, hopefully they can win the decisive game three tomorrow.
• 1:00:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what happens.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, this is always a highlight of my Wednesday night.
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So pleasure to get on here and talk a little bears with you guys and Brian, especially, and we will, we'll be doing it again next weekend, right?
• 1:00:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: For the comments.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: See you next week.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: and it might be a highlight of Ryan's Wednesday night, but it's a highlight of my week.
• 1:00:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully it's a highlight of your week as well.
• 1:00:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:00:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, anybody that knows a participation, uh, trophy brewery or beer, send it our way.
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan needs to get on that.
• 1:00:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: He loves that sort of thing.
• 1:00:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He'll give a, give favors for the day of the week and not just the week itself.
• 1:00:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
• 1:00:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: The
• 1:00:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: As our friend Bill Zimmerman would say, that's right.
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
• 1:00:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, yes.
• 1:00:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of which, we got some good stuff and Bill was on this week.
• 1:01:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mac and Ross were on this week.
• 1:01:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, we got some good stuff still this week, including ourselves obviously.
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you want some more bears content.
• 1:01:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: This best place to get it.
• 1:01:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got our shop.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: We didn't even talk about our shop this week.
• 1:01:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: You saw my glass.
• 1:01:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is empty at this moment.
• 1:01:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
• 1:01:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got that tap up.
• 1:01:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna share it.
• 1:01:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll put it up while you talk.
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead and show it off.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah, I got this.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've gotten some pictures of our bears over Birmingham last in the wild as well.
• 1:01:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: This week I was hoping that somebody special would share it on Twitter and they have not yet, but hopefully it will.
• 1:01:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, pint glass, you can't beat it.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I've got, I like pint glasses, man.
• 1:01:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I keep them for friends and family coming down to poor coal once the sticker on this, not sticker, but the heat, whatever this is, the logo is not going anywhere it's perfect.
• 1:01:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they got hoodies, you got a hoodie, has it feel, have you worn it yet?
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have it because it's almost 90 degrees here.
• 1:02:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I need to follow the start, man.
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a well-nursing these IPA's, bro.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:02:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's turned the weather, but yeah, they got hoodies, we got hats.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need to get a coffee mug.
• 1:02:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a good coffee mug with the beloved on it, but yeah, and we got some, you got to get that rocks glass, man.
• 1:02:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's probably going to sell
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got one, and I drank from at the other night to celebrate the Vegas win, and it is phenomenal, and it's only, look, these rocks glasses, they are heavy duty, like they are thick, they are in the logo on their solid, they won't come off 14 bucks for a good made rocks glasses, not a bad buy.
• 1:02:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, it's it's good stuff.
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like Brian was showing you, there's the pint glass.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got bears over beer shirts, hoodies, as he said, all kinds of stuff, all colors.
• 1:03:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you look at that, I mean, there's multiple different colors.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys can get plus five more nine different t-shirt.
• 1:03:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: colors.
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's lots of them.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're well made.
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've worn the shirts on the show here before too.
• 1:03:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you want to browse the store.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Plus all the second city grid iron shops.
• 1:03:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: The link is here in the podcast and video description.
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Check it out.
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just another way to support what we are building with all the other people over here at second city grid.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate your support everybody.
• 1:03:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 1:03:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, Brian.
• 1:03:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's been fun.
• 1:03:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: We thought it might be a short show and here
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's always a good time when you're having fun with the boys, right?
• 1:03:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, even though it's only your, your favorite thing to do on Wednesday is it's my favorite thing in the week.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're, we'll call it even, and like we'll cheers to that, my man.
• 1:03:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we'll see.
• 1:03:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we'll see you guys next week, cheers one more time, Brian.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, and listen, you said we might do some special.
• 1:03:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: if we can win this game against DC coming up.
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So keep that in mind.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, if you get some memorability to get a shirt or something, when we do have a live show, closer to soldier field.
• 1:04:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: There just might be a free drink on us if you're wearing some of this garb.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, yes.
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You might want to keep that in mind, rep it, show us, we will retweet you all the way.
• 1:04:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have no followers.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, but the second city will re-tweet you.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan will re-tweet you.
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get Wendy City to retweet you, get you some recognition, get you some love.
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's all about some bears love out here.
• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're coming at you on a buy week talking all sorts of business.
• 1:04:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Left tackle, undrafted free agents, stadium renderings, you name it.
• 1:04:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got you covered whilst drinking some good delicious local brews.
• 1:04:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some of our favorites on the night.
• 1:04:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cheers everyone.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cheers.
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bear down.
• 1:04:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bear down and enjoy the by-week everybody.
• 1:04:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back in seven days.
• 1:05:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Have another.
• 1:05:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good night with you.
• 1:05:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's over beers.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: It gets no better than that.
• 1:05:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: See you next time, everyone.