Latest / My Third Place Pod / Episode 113 - Heels S1E6 - House Show
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- 0:47Welcome back to the show My follow podcast, friends.
- 0:51I am your host. It is I.
- 0:54It is me. Not the problem.
- 0:57But I am EVO and you're listening to another awesome
- 1:01super show where I come to you and record from under the apron.
- 1:09I know. I usually talk about wrestling
- 1:11and have wrestling predictions or wrestling result of the
- 1:15latest wrestling event. You know the wrestling because
- 1:20we talk about the wrestling on here.
- 1:22But I wanted to branch out a little bit as they say.
- 1:25I wanted to evolve, I wanted to talk about something else or a
- 1:31Roman Reigns. One says like I can't be doing
- 1:33the same saying over and over. Missionaries like missionary
- 1:36position doing it over and over. Oh, I had to quote him.
- 1:41Sorry. The more actual wrestling
- 1:43content will be available soon. I promise.
- 1:46You know what? No, I can't promise you guys
- 1:47anything because I'm all over the place basically.
- 1:52But we do have a premium live event coming up.
- 1:55So you know, that predictions episode is coming up soon with
- 1:58my other cohost and podcast friend, friend of the podcast,
- 2:02my brother, sister, sister, brother, brother, sister, yeah,
- 2:06brother, brother, sister, sister, brother.
- 2:09Y'all know her, Sarah. But lately I've been checking
- 2:14out Twitter and it seems that there are fans out there of my
- 2:17the freaking show that I'm like currently watching healed.
- 2:21And I want to talk to you, the Heals fans, the Heals army and
- 2:25whatever you guys call yourselves.
- 2:28What did you think of season one and this rewatch that I'm
- 2:31currently doing? What are your current thoughts
- 2:33on Season 2 now? Once we get to them you agree or
- 2:40disagree with my initial reactions of the episode, let me
- 2:43know. I want to talk to you.
- 2:44I want some other opinions on this show.
- 2:47I kind of want to hear from you. So if I see you talking about
- 2:50heels on Twitter or anywhere else, I'm going to reach out to
- 2:54you and see if you want to hop on this show for We watch.
- 2:57We can do it. We can make it happen.
- 2:58Let's go. Or e-mail me from a behavior
- 3:01gmail.com. We will.
- 3:03Then again, we can already slimming over my words.
- 3:06We can make that happen. But right now I want to quickly
- 3:11get into this episode. This is season one Episode 6
- 3:17titled House Show. It aired September 19th, 2021.
- 3:21It was directed by Peter Segall who also directed episode 5.
- 3:26It was. It was written by Eli Jordan,
- 3:28who was a Co executive producer on The Walking Dead and is now
- 3:32an executive producer of The Walking Dead.
- 3:34Spin off that city synopsis of the show is the big day of Big
- 3:43Jim's Baby's baptism and a new beginning for everyone in Duffy.
- 3:48Jack's running around town prepping and promoting the
- 3:51upcoming matchup. The fair guest starring on this
- 3:54episode are David Roberts. That's Jim Kitchen, who you
- 3:58recall. Episode one retired from
- 3:59wrestling because he wanted to spend more time with his wife
- 4:02and newborn. And Erica Papas is his wife,
- 4:05Melanie Kitchen also making his second appearance on the show
- 4:08since that. If we saw the depth of his
- 4:10character in episode 3 is David James Elliott back as Tom Spade.
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- 4:52notes. So a house show is a live event
- 4:59of a professional wrestling event produced by a major
- 5:01promotion that is not televised, though they can be recorded.
- 5:05House shows are also often scripted to make the face
- 5:09wrestlers win most matches, largely to send the crowd home
- 5:13happy. The episode opens on Willie
- 5:18sitting in the office looking out into the ring.
- 5:21The janitors are cleaning up after a long eventful night.
- 5:24She turns down the radio after hearing that the score for the
- 5:28ball game is 15 to 3. The Braves lost their Cardinals
- 5:31for the third night in a row. She says Jack wrestled wealth
- 5:36night, but we hear another man's voice.
- 5:38Tom Spade is in his chair on his desk saying that they are losing
- 5:43a lot of money. They don't show the date at all
- 5:45or how long ago this was. So I'll have to do a little
- 5:49research on this one. Turns out the Braves lost to the
- 5:53Cardinals Cardinals for the third time in the series on July
- 5:5617th, 2006. So if this episode was aired in
- 5:592021, that means we are going back 15 years ago, so Jack might
- 6:05have started wrestling at a young age.
- 6:08If Willie is recounting that he did good that night back to Tom,
- 6:15who was upset that they're losing a lot of money, Tom says
- 6:18he feels like a failure for losing all that money.
- 6:22Willie reminds him that he built an incredible place where so
- 6:25many people find joy. Tom says it's not how you play
- 6:29the game, it's the score. At the end, he asked her to
- 6:33check the scoreboard. What does it say?
- 6:35It says that he F and lost. He throws the telephone at the
- 6:38door and it echoes as Willie snaps out of it.
- 6:41She takes a sip up her coffee as she stares at the desk in
- 6:45complete silence. Again, we see where Tom's mental
- 6:50health issues originated from, which was the business.
- 6:55Even at the first sign of a struggle, Tom was having issues
- 6:58with that. Like and I, he's very anxious.
- 7:03He's very depressed, driven by his business and but the
- 7:09business is failing. His business is failing.
- 7:13She turns around to look outside the window and into the ring.
- 7:17Outside the ring are a big group of people sitting in a small
- 7:21circle with Apocalypse in the middle.
- 7:26It's an A a meeting pocket discussing having to deal with
- 7:30the damages of his mistake of his former life. i.e.
- 7:33Drinking life, he says. I struggle with the realization
- 7:37that I have to integrate the damage of the mistakes of my
- 7:40forward life, the drinking life, the things I said and did with
- 7:44the days today. Good guy, living and striving.
- 7:47I got to do now without hating myself because the yearning and
- 7:52the hopeful and achieving in me knows all about his mistakes.
- 7:56Still got to do stuff, can't be weighed down consciously.
- 8:01So I'm useless. But my tendency is to remember
- 8:04my mistakes or make like they weren't impactful because they
- 8:07don't fit the current mode of me being the good dude.
- 8:10The thing is, if I forget them, diminish them, I don't use them
- 8:14as you know, fertilizer for a better me.
- 8:17I'm liable to revert to the same terrible impulses, same terrible
- 8:21outcomes. Have gratitude for your regrets.
- 8:24Have gratitude for your regrets. They're there to remind you to
- 8:28be a better version of yourself. He looks around the room and
- 8:33back at a list that he has in front of him to announce someone
- 8:37has a one year anniversary. He picks up the one year silver
- 8:41pen and announces this for Diane, who's cabbed by Zoe
- 8:44Myers, who's been in dance with Dad and Anchorman 2.
- 8:47The legend continues. Diane gets up and gets a hug
- 8:51from Park, followed by her name being chanted by everyone in the
- 8:54a a group. Again we go back to Willie who
- 8:57was watching from the office. Upstairs takes another step up
- 9:00her coffee and size. She was right.
- 9:04Tom built a place where not only people find joy, but but for
- 9:08people like PAC to find his place and to hold meetings such
- 9:12as this one. So going back to episode 2, when
- 9:17PAC told Rooster that Tom Spade helped him get his life on track
- 9:22when he had a drinking problem, this is what he meant.
- 9:23The camera cuts to outside the Dome spanning all over the
- 9:28building and right in front of the trailer where Bobby has been
- 9:31released from the hospital and is recovering while playing on
- 9:34his phone or texting. Crystal Perhaps the next scene
- 9:39is the next morning. Jack is looking all over the
- 9:42house for his keys, including the kitchen where we see a shot
- 9:45of the gerbil that Thomas wanted.
- 9:49Jack looks around around the house while listening to a
- 9:52message from Constant Gerity of the South Georgia State Fair
- 9:54Commission. She wanted to talk to him about
- 9:57increasing ticket sales as preshow sales are tracking
- 10:00behind as Jack struggles to find his keys, Stacey rehearses her
- 10:08new song to play at baby Shelby's baptism, Shelby is
- 10:12Jimmy and Melanie kitchens baby from Episode 2.
- 10:16She asked Jack to stay and hear the song, but Jack has booked a
- 10:19spot on Dick Valentino's podcast to hopefully boost ticket sales
- 10:24and has to meet with Willie so he can't.
- 10:27Stacey reminds Jack to pack some church clothes and Ace is going
- 10:30to be the godfather to which Jack says he will be there.
- 10:33He will hear Stacey's song and he will bite his tongue.
- 10:36When Ace promises to reject the devil on Baby Shelby's behalf,
- 10:41he can't cancel Dick Valentino's podcast or he will trash Jack.
- 10:47Stacey tells Jack to do what he has to do, just to remember that
- 10:50for the people that loves him, all he has to do is show up on
- 10:53their big days. Being on time helps, but blowing
- 10:56them off doesn't. Rooster meets with Charlie Gully
- 11:01at Big Nick's Place restaurant. Charlie says he just got a text,
- 11:06so he started eating without him.
- 11:09Rooster says he's not staying long as he has a christening to
- 11:12go to. Charlie says that's cool.
- 11:15The world needs more believers like him.
- 11:17He believes he is building an independent wrestling promotion
- 11:20that has no equal. He is on his way and he wants
- 11:24Rooster in that way. Charlie offering Rooster
- 11:28position with the FWD Florida wrestling dystopia as the DWL
- 11:33doesn't much have much more left to live even with Rooster being
- 11:38their best. Rooster asked why Charlie wants
- 11:42to have Jack so bad, Charlie says because he doesn't like
- 11:45when people talk shit about his promotion, it actually affects
- 11:49his promotion. Rooster thinks Charlie is after
- 11:53him to get Jack, but Charlie assures him that he's after
- 11:57Rooster because his audience will eat Rooster up.
- 12:00Rooster smirks and says Charlie is laying it on pretty thick.
- 12:05Charlie says that Rooster should be a star, but right now he
- 12:08isn't one. He apologizes.
- 12:11He made this meeting so brief and thanks Rooster for coming
- 12:14out, so he offers a chance. He offers Rooster a chance to
- 12:19wrestle in Jacksonville and drop $1000 on the table and and lets
- 12:24them decide if Charlie's promotion is worth the time or
- 12:28just bullshit. He says Jack hasn't been worth
- 12:33Rooster's time and it never will be.
- 12:36Charlie walks out of the restaurant and gives the
- 12:38waitress a big tip as well. Rooster looks down at the money
- 12:42on the table, picks it up and walks outside taking offense and
- 12:46not appreciating Charlie, just dropping money on him like he's
- 12:50some kind of beating stripper from Follies.
- 12:54He dropped the money on the ground in front of Charlie, who
- 12:56insists that wasn't his intent and promises Rooster an
- 12:59opportunity of a lifetime if he joins the FWB.
- 13:04He tells Rooster not to whip up some imaginary disrespecting
- 13:08when he came here to tell Rooster that he's great and he
- 13:11threw $1000 on the table to indicate his interest.
- 13:15Charlie says he doesn't go to strip clubs because he respects
- 13:18women so he doesn't know how they throw money around there.
- 13:23Rooster rolled his eyes, not believing any of this.
- 13:25Charlie then says that Rooster comes to work for him.
- 13:28He will put all his money in the Manila envelope, wrap it in a
- 13:31bow and show him all loyalty, the likes he has never seen
- 13:35before. But don't tough guy him.
- 13:37It doesn't take muscle to be an effective tough guy.
- 13:40It just takes a quick temper and a big family to back you up and
- 13:44on that the Irish. They have a massive head start.
- 13:50Charlie turns around to get into his car.
- 13:52He tells what his assistance to pick up the money that's on the
- 13:55ground and they leave. Rooster watches as they drive
- 13:59away while Charlie yells that he has his number.
- 14:02Call him. Next scene, Willie calls Jack
- 14:08out to South Georgia University Stadium to not only get a look
- 14:12at what 10,000 fans will look like, but to also discreetly
- 14:16retrieve as to use alumni e-mail list.
- 14:21Jack promises he'll fill the seats, but there's still the
- 14:23matter of Wild Bill. After his promo, they don't have
- 14:27a choice but to include him. However, Willie is concerned as
- 14:32Bill is dangerous, not to mention a trunk and pill popper
- 14:36and a terrible human, and now that he's down on his luck, he's
- 14:40come back to DWL. Tom would never take this
- 14:44gamble. Jack tells Willie his dad built
- 14:49a Colosseum that was so damn expensive that he buckled Tom
- 14:53left Jack holding the bag and now he's trying to fix
- 14:56everything that Tom fucked up. If they're going to talk about
- 15:00pride and ego and all the different ways that the DWL
- 15:03never became what Tom wanted, why does Willie think that was?
- 15:07Was he a world class allergy towards input?
- 15:11Jack thinks his dad's Achilles heel was more along the lines of
- 15:14reflexive F and readiness to wallow in self pity anytime
- 15:18anyone hurt his feelings. Well, he tells Jack Tom was
- 15:22complicated, but he was a great man.
- 15:24He built something out of nothing and enlarged Bill.
- 15:28But Bill ever even acknowledged what Tom and the Delio did for
- 15:34him. Despite getting his start there,
- 15:38Bill could never show up for not for one night or for one
- 15:42exhibition to chip off just a little bit of fame for them.
- 15:45While they struggled, Bill forgot about the DWL.
- 15:48But now in the midst of his well effing earned asperation, He
- 15:52wants to help build. He wants to help and Jack.
- 15:57He wants to help. Jack wants to bank on and rely
- 16:01on while Bill. However, Jack believed they can
- 16:04at least use him for business purposes.
- 16:07He says that Wild Bill Hancock is the only wrestler who came
- 16:10out of Duffy and made a name for herself, and now they can use
- 16:14him to build back up the league to make it what they want, what
- 16:18his dad would have wanted. They don't have to forgive or
- 16:21forget, just trying to do business.
- 16:24And she was the one who told Jack to ask Bill for help and
- 16:27take emotions out of it. Willie says Tom saw the
- 16:31potential of Bill as a wrestler and she saw the potential in
- 16:35Bill as a person. Tom was right, she wasn't.
- 16:39She reminds Jack what Bill told her in episode cutting In
- 16:42Episode 4 Cutting promos, Bill told Willie it was probably
- 16:45Jack's fault. Tom shot himself, which caused
- 16:48Willie to slap him, punch him a few times.
- 16:50Jack says he told Ace their dad knew they were home when he shot
- 16:54himself, and they told Jack he was going to kill himself just
- 16:58like their dad. People say stupid shit, but
- 17:01they're in the business of bringing entertainment to the
- 17:03masses, and Bill brings a whole lot of masses to the masses,
- 17:08Willie tells Jack He brings a whole lot of more than that.
- 17:11She don't think she can handle that or will.
- 17:14Willie walks away, leaving Jack in the middle of the stadium
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- 17:52Next scene, Bobby strolls into DWL with a wheelchair, anxious
- 17:57to start his physical therapy. At some point, he runs into the
- 18:00park in Diego, who are discussing A variety of things.
- 18:03Bobby tells him it's given him a lot of time to think.
- 18:06Park says he's been thinking a lot.
- 18:08Also, Diego asked about if Jesus is coming back.
- 18:13Park says he never thinks about that.
- 18:16Diego points out that his name is Apocalypse.
- 18:18PAC tells him his nickname after the movie Apocalypse Now.
- 18:23His dad fought into Vietnam and the apocalypse itself.
- 18:27He was a cook, so he served. But he didn't serve serve just a
- 18:30fat asshole of a cook and a real prick his whole life, especially
- 18:34when you father a kid at 58. PAC then goes to gym back to
- 18:41show the boys his new robe he got from Carol spade mom.
- 18:45Flashy and shiny, but the inside material, the satin like
- 18:49material hurt his nipples. Bobby says to get Bliss decks.
- 18:54Diego says that Bliss decks going to leave a stain.
- 18:57Park then says he was thinking he has no idea why men have
- 19:00nipples. Diego says he's never thought
- 19:03about it, but Park says they should.
- 19:07It's on their body and he has no idea what they do.
- 19:11Bobby says this is a legit inquiry.
- 19:15Poc says milk aren't in them or coming out of them, so why are
- 19:18they there for? Diego thinks it's an evolution
- 19:23thing, like how you got grown up teeth above your baby teeth
- 19:26awaiting the call. The conversation takes a turn
- 19:30when Rooster joins them. And Diego says that maybe God
- 19:33knew that one day woman would be running the workplace and there
- 19:37would be more stay at home to have.
- 19:39So men got nipples just in case. Like a total gender revolution,
- 19:42but also in the case of emergency, like a famine or a
- 19:46plague. Both Park and Bobby look weird
- 19:50at Diego. Like what the hell is he talking
- 19:51about? Is this man high?
- 19:55Diego continues saying. What if all the women are out
- 19:59there fighting in the new Vietnam, getting their bodies
- 20:02blown to bits? So democracy could survive like
- 20:04men. So democracy could survive like
- 20:08men used to, only now all the future men need to be home.
- 20:12Bursting with nourishment from their nipples.
- 20:16Oh my. God jail, Rooster laughs and
- 20:26tells them they have got to be the most brain damaged
- 20:29individual that he has ever met. He's helped, dated and thought
- 20:33demented people and if those demented people were there, they
- 20:36would replace rejoice. They would rejoice in knowing
- 20:39that there exists far more demented people than they are.
- 20:42They all share in the laugh, of course, while looking for trivia
- 20:49about this episode on the IMDb page and came out short.
- 20:53Someone did however put in the reason men have nipples.
- 20:58No joke. In case anyone is wondering, men
- 21:00have nipples because embryos are always female in their early
- 21:03stages and males only differentiate from the female
- 21:07prototype after a few weeks. Thank you anonymous poster at
- 21:13IMDb for your contribution. Next scene, Ace watches his old
- 21:19home videos of his dad coaching him while his mom recourse and
- 21:23playing flag football. Young Jack, who's being played
- 21:27by Jackson McCann has who've been on Stranger Saints in
- 21:30Atlanta, tells his dad that young 8th here, played by Mason
- 21:34Gillett who played a young MacGyver on the reboot series,
- 21:39has a cannon on him. Tom remarked that Ace is Dan
- 21:43Marino times two that he has all strength, athleticism, good
- 21:46looks. He even had better footwork than
- 21:50Jack. Confident as hell, Jack says.
- 21:54Tom says that's confidence, poison confidence.
- 21:58That kid got flair 8th positive videos and gets a call.
- 22:03Phone call from Big Jim who asked Ace to daughter's
- 22:06godfather. Ace thinks Jim has a bad judge
- 22:10of character for having him be the backstop to his daughter's
- 22:12religious upbringing. Jim says Ace has to say a few
- 22:16words of the baptism, just some church words.
- 22:19Melanie told Jim to tell Ace a week ago, but he thinks he must
- 22:22have taken a lot of chair shots to the head because he forgot
- 22:25about it till now. All Ace has to do is say if he
- 22:29wears off the cuff, he's a wrestler.
- 22:30Just riff, Ace says. Talking shit about a wrestler is
- 22:34totally different than referring in church.
- 22:36Jim says it's good. Jim says it's just good.
- 22:40Receivable, crowds in the stands, dudes in funny costumes
- 22:44just don't powerbomb the pastor. Ace reluctantly agrees, as he
- 22:50isn't sure if he should be saying anything after what
- 22:52happened with Bobby, Ace finally says #1 don't expect it to be
- 22:56great. And #2 go fuck yourself, Jim
- 23:00says. He got this goddaddy and they
- 23:03hang up the phone as Ace goes downstairs to find his mom
- 23:08finally getting rid of his father's stuff.
- 23:10As it's taking up too much of Carol's space, Carol intends to
- 23:15donate it, but Ace doesn't want her to do that.
- 23:18He asked what he wanted, what if he wanted it, but Carol says he
- 23:22left everything to her so it's her choice.
- 23:26Ace grabs the ties that belong to his father and it's sad that
- 23:29his mom is doing this. Next scene, Jack arrived at the
- 23:35DWL to find Rooster outside the building, waiting to talk to him
- 23:39about his slot within the fair. But Jack asked if he can wait
- 23:42until the barbecue and tells Rooster that if he wants to
- 23:44smoke, he has to take it out round to the back.
- 23:48There's a jewelry convention scene going on inside the Dome
- 23:50right now that they rented out so it would look good if one of
- 23:54the two faces of DWL was having a smoke.
- 23:57Rooster dropped a cigarette and tells Jack he was thinking about
- 23:59quitting anyways. Jack enter his office to find
- 24:03while Bill with his feet up on his desk.
- 24:06He reveals that he just came from saying Dick Valentino as
- 24:08their old acquaintances. With the State Fair only a month
- 24:12away. Bill came to tell Jack that he's
- 24:15all in with the DWL, the fans are blowing up his socials and
- 24:20Barstool wants to promote his comeback.
- 24:23However, Jack doesn't want his help as Bill never offered it to
- 24:27Tom when he needed it. Although Bill reveals that Tom
- 24:31never asked for help, he couldn't accept that Bill was
- 24:35chosen as he wasn't. Not to mention, Bill did come
- 24:38back when he tried to take Ace, but Jack ruined that.
- 24:43He thinks that the two of them could use each other to rise to
- 24:47the top, which is something Dick Valentino can offer.
- 24:52Bill recalls the one time he read a Dick in Atlanta and how
- 24:55he broke Bill's wrist in an I quit match.
- 24:57However, Jack refuses to discuss the State Fair any further with
- 25:01Bill until he lashes things over, hashes things over with
- 25:04Willie. Jack walks into the room and
- 25:09finally meets up with Dick Valentino who was played by
- 25:12wrestling legend, multi title, multiple multiple time wrestling
- 25:16champion Mick fully. Hey, I've met him before.
- 25:20Y'all gotta listen to that experience how that went for me
- 25:24On episode 93, I'll have it in the show note, but when I
- 25:30initially saw the Foley show up on the screen, I popped and did
- 25:33the Leonardo recapture point at the TV meme.
- 25:37I was so excited that this legend was on the show.
- 25:40I mean, yeah, the same about theme park, but this is make
- 25:45freaking Foley we're talking about here, right?
- 25:48Bigger legend. You know what I mean, Dick
- 25:51Valentino says. He loves the craftsmanship
- 25:53around the room and just bought some jewelry from the lady in
- 25:56the corner. He shows Jack, a sapphire and
- 25:58silver poundant that he got, and Jack Ass if they can record the
- 26:02podcast in his office. Next scene, Crystal approaches
- 26:06Willie outside baptism and ask what her role in the fair will
- 26:10be. With Crystal no longer working
- 26:14at Ace's valet and Bobby out on a broken leg, she wonders where
- 26:19that leaves her as she feels that she's being left out, which
- 26:24Willie blames on Crystal for growing a script.
- 26:28Crystal says she didn't mean for Bobby to get hurt.
- 26:31Willie tells Crystal she doesn't want to be Dragon lady here
- 26:33because she knows women have to stick together in a rod and all
- 26:36the world run by idiotic men. But Crystal decided she didn't
- 26:39like what was written for her, so she decided to change it.
- 26:42She lit the match. Don't be pretending you don't
- 26:45know how. Fireworks, darling, but everyone
- 26:49need knows we also now answer the Jack Spade.
- 26:54Willie smirks and walks inside the church, leaving Crystal to
- 26:57turn to her right and watches as Pop, Ruth and Diego help Bobby
- 27:01out of the truck. Crystal feels even worse and
- 27:04enters the church. Jack appears as a guest on Dick
- 27:11Valentino's podcast, during which they discussed while
- 27:15Bill's return and how he personally called out Jack and
- 27:18Ace. Let's talk about.
- 27:19This main event here's to my eyes like Wild Bill is back in
- 27:24the mix that has yet to. Be decided, I think his actions.
- 27:27In the ring, decided Jack. Folks around here, they're
- 27:29invested, he laid down. Some pretty wild attacks and
- 27:32Jack Spade doesn't let fighting words go on his, and I use some
- 27:35of those. Fighting words against your
- 27:36brother Ace Spade as well. So Ace, he's got to be in the
- 27:39main event. It's all still percolating.
- 27:41Percolating. What the hell are we promoting
- 27:44here, Jack? Seems to me like there's a beef
- 27:46brewing between you brothers. I'm sure you remember.
- 27:48From your wrestling days, Dick, that when you've had the belts
- 27:51as long as I have or you did, people don't attack you from all
- 27:54angles, even your own kin, which is what's going to make this
- 27:57State Fair so darn explosive, depending on who's in.
- 28:01It the problem is I can't tell my listeners, Dick Valentino's
- 28:04listeners, who's in the main event.
- 28:06It seems to me neither can you. I got the belt.
- 28:09You can tell in my minute. This past fall.
- 28:14Your promotion gained a level of Internet infamy when you
- 28:17defeated your brother Ace in 15 seconds with a hold that
- 28:22appeared to these eyes to be really painful.
- 28:24And then Ace burst into tears. Now your daddy, King Spade, was
- 28:28known around these parts as a great wrestler, but he also had
- 28:32a tenuous grasp on his composure and that brought with it a great
- 28:35sense of real danger to the ring.
- 28:37Come clean with me, Jack. You got some of your old man's
- 28:40anger. I thought we were here to talk
- 28:45about the future of the DWL. We got an hour.
- 28:47Jack, we'll get there. Now, this is just me just
- 28:50thinking out loud, remembering your father.
- 28:53Well, he was just going to say it.
- 28:55Your father, Tommy, was one tough son bitch.
- 28:57Jack always had to have things his way.
- 29:00So when I get the news that your father kills himself, I'm not
- 29:03fucking talking. About that, my apologies.
- 29:11For cussing, It's OK, Jack. It's a podcast.
- 29:14You ever listen to my podcast? I never miss it.
- 29:16It's called No. Questions barred for a reason.
- 29:19Because I use my platform to get people to care.
- 29:23They support me because I tell them the truth about this
- 29:27business we all love, but also about its cost, your father's
- 29:32death, and how it made you feel. That's interesting to my
- 29:36listeners. It's not interesting to me.
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- 29:57memory lane with cult classics, jurassics and other genres that
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- 30:06I'm your host, Mixtape Majesty, inviting you to join me and an
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- 30:13Bring your own popcorn. Stacy performs her song at Baby
- 30:31Shelby Baptism. I'm going to play a little clip
- 30:34of it. This is my song for you.
- 30:43This is my song, little one. This song is for beginnings.
- 30:51You don't know much, but you'll get there soon.
- 31:08I remember if I said this on the first episode of Heels, but she
- 31:11is an amazing singer. Add to the fact that she's been
- 31:15in musicals such as Matilda, where she played Miss Honey, the
- 31:18main character on waitress Jesse Mueller and El Faba, and the
- 31:23first national tour of Wicked in 2013, Yeah, she's an amazing
- 31:28singer. Back to the show.
- 31:30Jack is not in attendance as promised because he's stuck on
- 31:34the road due to an accident and can't move forward.
- 31:38Ace then goes up to say a few words.
- 31:40He and Jim have known each other since grade school, more
- 31:45specifically, detention. They've been inseparable ever
- 31:48since they were kids, and now Mel and Jim are baptizing their
- 31:51own kid. Baptism is a lifelong journey, a
- 31:54winding Rd. of mistakes, making and learning and growing.
- 31:58You know, if you're a lot like this congregation, and
- 32:01especially him, you're going to stumble.
- 32:04You're going to get scuffed up and you're going to wrestle with
- 32:06some demons, some real, some imagine, some put upon you and
- 32:10some you put upon yourself. He looks around the
- 32:14congregation, crystal nodding, the boy sitting in one row
- 32:18watching Ace, who turns to his goddaughter and says Shelby,
- 32:22This is the start of your story, a story that says you gotta
- 32:26inherit a lot of original bias stuff, but we wash that off
- 32:30today. Know that if you make a mistake,
- 32:32it don't mean you can. You can't be turning the page,
- 32:37revising your story, saying your stories, and starting anew.
- 32:40I mean, that's what life is about, right?
- 32:42Writing a story we could all be a part of, even if it's got some
- 32:46bad or boring chapters in it. Like it or not, you're part of
- 32:50the Buffy story now. The Duffy family.
- 32:54I can't wait to watch you grow up.
- 32:57He looks back at everyone. Folks, I present to you Cheryl B
- 33:02Warren Kitchen. Everyone claps their hands to
- 33:05this wholesome moment, at which point Jack finally arrived and
- 33:08collapsed along as well. We go from the church to the
- 33:13kitchen's house with everyone celebrating the big day by
- 33:17getting food from the grill, Thomas and the other kids
- 33:22playing cornhole and puck, being told that he was that he had a
- 33:27great share. The other night at AA, Big Jim
- 33:32thinks Ace for a job well done. During the baptism he did
- 33:36inquires about Bobby, who Ace has yet to apologize to.
- 33:42I don't know, like I rather be told sorry by the guy who like,
- 33:47broke my leg. Pretty much in the living room,
- 33:50Crystal blamed herself for Bobby's broken leg as she
- 33:54knowingly provoked Ace, who is volatile.
- 33:58She apologized Bobby, but he doesn't blame her as he knew the
- 34:01risk of getting in the ring. He then says that she should be
- 34:06a wrestler, assuming she bulks up, while Jack and Willie may
- 34:12not think so. Bobby does, Who tells her My mom
- 34:16always says you're under an obligation to accept someone
- 34:19else's assessment of you? Crystal laughs as she goes to
- 34:23grab Bobby another beer. Jack approaches Stacy and Pastor
- 34:29Henry in the front yard. The BBQ.
- 34:31Pastor Henry is played by Spencer Garrett who is currently
- 34:35on winning time. The rise of the Lakers dynasty
- 34:39which is a show by the look back at the professional personal
- 34:41lives in the 1980s Lakers. Spencer plays Chick Hearns, who
- 34:45was a sport caster and the play by play announcer from the
- 34:48Lakers and the NBA for 41 years. Jack tells Pastor that was a
- 34:57lovely sermon he told earlier. Stacy adds in the little sash of
- 35:02her own, knowing that he came late for the ceremony by asking
- 35:04Jack what part did he enjoy most.
- 35:07Pastor comes that he had to be Stacy's song, although Jack and
- 35:10Missy heard it was great and apologize for being late as he
- 35:13had business to attend to. Stacy once again digs it in.
- 35:19The DWL never Sleeps Pastor and Jack talk about the State Fair
- 35:24and how exciting it's going to be for them to for the brand
- 35:27exposure. Stacey gets frustrated with Jack
- 35:30after having shown up late to the batism and excuses herself.
- 35:37Ace noticed Bobby's struggling to get a plate of food and
- 35:40rushes over to assist. He takes this moment to
- 35:42apologize for breaking his leg. Oh, finally.
- 35:47Finally, you know, couldn't do it at church.
- 35:51Couldn't do it earlier. Gotta wait until the right
- 35:54moment when I'm struggling with my food so he can come apologize
- 35:59to me for breaking my leg. Great.
- 36:01Bobby forgives him without a second thought, though Crystal
- 36:04joins him and volunteers to help Bobby to the table.
- 36:09The awkwardness and the small scene after Ace apologized to
- 36:13Bobby, and Bobby tells Ace not to worry about it.
- 36:15The new day, he really is going for the information.
- 36:18That shit can happen, but hey, you can't do shit about it.
- 36:22It's the next day he's up and then Crystal shows up and they
- 36:25all stand there quietly for a few seconds until Crystal looks
- 36:31down at the plate Ace is carrying.
- 36:33And she says that's a lot of ranch.
- 36:35And it's kind of like, what are you doing, Ace?
- 36:37That's a lot of ranch. But then Ace said it's for
- 36:40Bobby, who says he loves ranch, and suddenly Crystal thinks it's
- 36:43cute she. Grabs the plate from Ace and
- 36:46takes Bobby to the table while Ace just awkwardly walks away.
- 36:54Rooster approaches Jack about potentially throwing him in the
- 36:57main event for the fair, but when Jack turns him down and
- 37:01again, Rooster simply sees himself out.
- 37:05Jack says it seems to him. We keep having the same
- 37:07conversation. Rooster responds when it seems
- 37:10to the same, but each time it's a little different and Rooster
- 37:13is right. Rooster wants to be seen, so he
- 37:16asked for a push. Next time you see Rooster and
- 37:24Jack talking, he wants to know if Jack knows his name.
- 37:27This time he just wants to know what the situation is going to
- 37:30be at the State Fair, who's in the main event, because Jack
- 37:33hasn't told anybody that W Championship is going to be the
- 37:36headlining. So Rooster just wants to know
- 37:39what his spot's going to be like.
- 37:41But each night that Rooster comes to talk about Jack has
- 37:44something in his mind, whether it be his brother, the State
- 37:47Fair or the podcast that ended up being sheddy in him showing
- 37:50up late to the baptism. Another wholesome moment is
- 37:56everyone in the backyard getting along.
- 37:59Willie's husband Ted drinking a beer and playing cornhole
- 38:03against Park 8th, Diego and Crystal while Bobby doing play
- 38:07by play. Ted tells him as they were
- 38:10growing up and playing real sports, he was drinking and
- 38:12playing cornhole. As the night comes to an end,
- 38:16Melanie sees the guest out, though Crystal stays behind to
- 38:20play with baby Shelby and A States to chat with Jim, who is
- 38:25happy with the life he's made for himself.
- 38:28While he misses the guys he doesn't miss wrestling.
- 38:30A is then asked to hold a child smiling with baby Shelby in the
- 38:34hand. The space returned home and and
- 38:41Stacey takes Thomas out back to catch Firefly for his school
- 38:44project, but Jack stays inside, consumed with work.
- 38:48While Stacey's out in the backyard helping Thomas catch
- 38:51the Firefly, she looks at the window in her kitchen and is
- 38:54upset Jack is inside on his phone, working on wrestling
- 38:59stuff rather than enjoying what they're doing on the way to her
- 39:04car. Crystal apologized to Ace for
- 39:06going off script during the match and Ace apologizes for how
- 39:12he treated her. Too late for that buddy as they
- 39:16had a real thing. Good thing as they had a real
- 39:19good thing going. I don't think they did.
- 39:23Crystal just nods and drives away leaving alone by his car.
- 39:29As Willie is closing up at the DWO, Wild Bill comes by to
- 39:33apologize for what he said to her.
- 39:36She advised him to take a good look at his self a long time ago
- 39:41when he was still in Duffy and they were together.
- 39:43He was more open to being kind, but he's changed since then.
- 39:48When Willie doesn't accept his husband my apology, he follows
- 39:50her out and actually apologizes. He then reveals that he was kind
- 39:54back then because he loved her, but then one day she just
- 39:58dropped him and it crushed him. She explains that Tom was being
- 40:04scouted and asked her to be his valet.
- 40:06Which she accepted, as she thought it was a better bet with
- 40:09being Tom's valet than Wild Bill's.
- 40:12Willie apologizes for hurting him along ago, and for that
- 40:16she's sorry, but she thought that allowing him to stay at her
- 40:19house would make up for it and show that she was there for him
- 40:23as a friend. But her daughter had nothing to
- 40:26do with what Willie ever did, which is why Bill shouldn't have
- 40:29said what he said and is apologizing.
- 40:34Next scene, Rooster gives Gully a call.
- 40:36When he doesn't answer, he simply leaves a message saying
- 40:39he's in. Back at home at Jack's plays
- 40:46Jack apologize for missing Stacy's song.
- 40:49She asked about work, which isn't going well as it could so
- 40:54Jack in considering bringing Bill on, which Stacy is wary of
- 40:58as she doesn't like what he brings out of people.
- 41:01However, Jack doesn't have many options as he still needs to
- 41:04sell the State Fair pre show ticket.
- 41:08Stacy tells Jack that she is tired of being ignored between
- 41:11the squirrels in the attic Shelby's christening in the
- 41:13gerbil she asked Jack not to get for Thomas that he got anyway.
- 41:20She's starting to feel like she's being ignored.
- 41:24Stacy just wants part of their life proceedings towards
- 41:28something unified. She feels as though she needs to
- 41:31sing something more in life when they're doing stuff as a family.
- 41:35She knows who she is, but lately she feels like she's just
- 41:38observing. While she appreciates all he
- 41:40does to support the family, she thinks she's made out to be more
- 41:43than just a spectator. She thinks she.
- 41:48Jack tells her that she's kind and remarkable.
- 41:50However, she simply doesn't feel like she's floored in life.
- 41:53Moving on to Thomas, Stacey explains that he and Jack need
- 41:56to spend more time together than any more than just an exhausted
- 41:59and depleted Jack. Ace brings a couple garbage bags
- 42:05filled with his dad stuffed up to his room and then begins
- 42:08playing the home video of his father speaking so proudly of
- 42:11him and his expectations for him to go to the NFL believing that
- 42:15young age was destined for greatness.
- 42:18The camera pans from the TV playing the old footage to Ace,
- 42:21who is sudden saddened by those words and the show and right
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- 43:58Let's talk initial reaction.
- 44:19So the first time I watched this episode, after the whole setup
- 44:22of the episode before that, I was expecting backlash on Ace
- 44:26for what he did to Bobby, but I guess everyone just keeps on
- 44:29living their life. The baptism felt wholesome,
- 44:34especially given that you hated Ace of last episode and this one
- 44:39you feel for him and he's still a douchebag for what he did and
- 44:43sort of makes up for it when he apologizes to Bobby without any
- 44:46excuses. We also see that Ace and Crystal
- 44:49are truly not broken up, but she'd rather be helping Bobby
- 44:52than dealing with Ace, which she apologizes for being such a
- 44:54douchebag to her as well. The next apology is from Wild
- 45:00Bill to Willie, who in turn apologized to him for leaving
- 45:03him to be Tom Spade's manager. And that's where all the anger
- 45:07comes from. Jack asking Bill why he didn't
- 45:09come back to help his dad when in reality he wants him.
- 45:12He wanted nothing to do with the guy that stole his girl because
- 45:15he thought he was the one that was going to make it big.
- 45:19While Bill's anger stemmed from those of what Tom Spade caused,
- 45:23but he apologized to Billy Willie about what he said about
- 45:27his daughter, which in reality she wasn't part of that war.
- 45:34Ace is still going through a lot of mental anguish with his
- 45:36father being gone. His dad believed in him and his
- 45:40career, and then his mom wants to throw everything away because
- 45:43she's hurting and doesn't want that memory.
- 45:46Maybe that's more to that. Takata, Kenny.
- 45:55And finally we get to the disconnection of the space that
- 45:57I've been talking about since the first episode.
- 46:00Jack pulls out of his focus on the DWL rather than his family,
- 46:04and Stacy is upset that Jack nor everything she says and thinks
- 46:08he doesn't care about her when she told her about the
- 46:10squirrels, the christening and the gerb gerbil plus the whole
- 46:14rather be working while they're out catching fireflies.
- 46:18Stacy wants Jack to focus on them a bit rather than him being
- 46:21the whole wrestling 24/7. She just wants to be a part of a
- 46:25thing. It was a lot to take in from
- 46:30everyone's perspective and how they fit into the story or how
- 46:33they fit into Jax. We're going to have to see what
- 46:35Jax thinks of Rooster leaving and going to the other side
- 46:39while more stuff being put on his plate, like the State Fair,
- 46:42his wife, the WL and Wild Bill. All in all, that was a good
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