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LeBron & Lakers beat Rockets, WNBA's "Too Online" issue, Giants trade Dexter Lawrence | 04.20 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 2: y'all episodes, but I was on the road last week.
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  Speaker 2: Saw y'all kind of went a little crazy on a
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  Speaker 2: topic that I'll get to in just a moment. But first,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be perfectly honest with you. I decided
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to, you know, take a little time, so
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  Speaker 2: I went and took a little time. But I specifically
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  Speaker 2: set it up so that I would be back here
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  Speaker 2: on the morning of April the 18th because the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: were going to start. And, Ryan, I believe this is
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  Speaker 2: our first NBA playoffs that we have done together.
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  Speaker 3: We did a little bit last year. We were just all–
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  Speaker 3: this is our first– Start of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. First start. OK, I'm bad. I am bad
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  Speaker 2: at remembering when exactly we got this whole thing started.
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  Speaker 2: The beginning of the playoffs. Hey, man, this is people
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  Speaker 2: who follow me and have done my shows for a while.
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  Speaker 2: They understand this. Some people don't like to hear me
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  Speaker 2: when it gets to the point of complaining. This is
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  Speaker 2: my absolute favorite time of the sporting calendar. We have
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  Speaker 2: great basketball just about every single night and it kicks
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  Speaker 2: my ass. It is a tough one when you get
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  Speaker 2: into them late nights, and them late nights start stacking up,
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  Speaker 2: and they start stacking up, and they start stacking up,
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  Speaker 2: and people are like, oh, you complaining about getting paid
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  Speaker 2: to watch basketball? Nope, I'm complaining about staying up late.
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  Speaker 3: 1040 tips on NBC.
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  Speaker 2: Yo! Are you serious? I guess that, yeah, I guess
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  Speaker 2: I could... Look, here we are. That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be a fun eight weeks.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great time. We're going to be a little
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  Speaker 2: cranky from time to time as it goes. The only
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  Speaker 2: thing is the play-in game has made the opening weekend
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  Speaker 2: a little bit janky just because you wind up having
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  Speaker 2: four series that involve teams that just got through playing
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  Speaker 2: some real high stakes basketball and i haven't researched this
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  Speaker 2: but anecdotally those playing teams go out there and get
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  Speaker 2: their asses kicked to start the playoffs it feels like
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  Speaker 2: a tradition unlike any other they come out there and
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  Speaker 2: they get their asses kicked but we got a good
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  Speaker 2: setup i thought on saturday right i thought we um Toronto,
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  Speaker 2: shout out to you guys. You know, welcome to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: That was not. They got Cleveland, smoked them. James Harden
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  Speaker 2: looked excellent. Remember, the problem with James Harden is not
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: It's the last few games of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: The last game of the season. That's the one that's bad.
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  Speaker 2: But otherwise, they looked really good. And I have no
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  Speaker 2: problem admitting this, right? Like, people throw that casual thing
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  Speaker 2: around like it's an insult. And I'm like, nah, man.
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  Speaker 2: I just a little bit busier than you are in
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  Speaker 2: some respects and the playoffs. I don't try to find
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  Speaker 2: out what's going on with everybody at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the year. If you worth it, I will find this
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  Speaker 2: out in these two months of playoff basketball and the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs will run two months in one day this year.
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  Speaker 2: If you get to a game seven of the NBA finals,
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  Speaker 2: do the Toronto Raptors. I feel like whatever the Raptors
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  Speaker 2: make it to the playoffs this time of year is
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  Speaker 2: called meet the Raptors. We find out about all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of things that's going on with the Raptors at this
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  Speaker 2: time of year. Like, Who was their coach, for example?
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  Speaker 2: They got Brandon Ingram. They got Scottie Barnes. They got
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  Speaker 2: Purtle and Raptors.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and other Raptors.
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  Speaker 2: Other Raptors who better get their asses in line because
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  Speaker 2: they got smoked in that last game, right? But the
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  Speaker 2: most interesting game so far, I think, and we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about others in a few, but the most interesting game
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  Speaker 2: was the Rockets and the Lakers.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going to happen in this series.
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  Speaker 2: If you think you have any idea what's going to
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  Speaker 2: happen in this series, you are, as the French say,
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  Speaker 2: a goddamn lie. There's no way in the world that
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  Speaker 2: you can tell this. Number one, who knows what's going
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  Speaker 2: on with Kevin Durant and his knee? He hurt his
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  Speaker 2: knee in practice where they said it was a knee-on-knee collision,
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  Speaker 2: which is the worst.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I got some questions about what kind of practice they
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  Speaker 2: were having where this happened, like right, go in advance
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  Speaker 2: of game one. I don't know what's going on here,
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  Speaker 2: but he went out there and he tried to play.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the athletic had this story. And this
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  Speaker 2: is something I just didn't know really about Durant is
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  Speaker 2: that he is a guy that has a reputation for
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  Speaker 2: playing through stuff. Which is interesting because the last seven
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  Speaker 2: years of Kevin Durant have mostly involved him not playing.
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  Speaker 2: But he played 78 games this year.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: He's second most minutes in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's not. He had a weak one, right? Like, he's
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  Speaker 2: coming out here and he's playing games and he's certainly
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  Speaker 2: going to play in the playoffs. And they said he
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  Speaker 2: went out there trying to shoot before the game and
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  Speaker 2: it was terrible. Right.
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  Speaker 3: He looked miserable.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't do it. And look, the Rockets have enough problems.
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  Speaker 2: Because they have good players. We'd all agree. They have
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  Speaker 2: a decent number of good players. They just don't have
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  Speaker 2: a point guard. And coming into this season, they needed
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  Speaker 2: somebody to go out there and get a bucket when
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  Speaker 2: you need a bucket. They still don't have a point guard.
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  Speaker 2: And get a bucket when you need a bucket is
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  Speaker 2: not playing. So it's basically Shingun is going to be
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  Speaker 2: out there. Ahmed Thompson, who I saw people tweeting about this.
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  Speaker 2: He seems destined to be this generation's man, what if
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  Speaker 2: he could shoot? Right. Did you see that was going
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  Speaker 2: around when people were sending the question about, man, how
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  Speaker 2: good would this guy be if he could just shoot?
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  Speaker 2: High on that list for me, Darius Miles.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Darius Miles was good at everything except for two little things,
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  Speaker 2: dribbling and shooting.
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  Speaker 3: Important for guards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those two little things, those were coming up as
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  Speaker 2: the issues. But for the Rockets, I don't care what happens.
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  Speaker 2: You can't lose this series. No. With Kevin Durant, without
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, no matter how it is that you want
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  Speaker 2: to spin it, this is not one that you can lose, right?
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  Speaker 2: The Lakers don't have Luka Doncic. They don't have Austin Reeves.
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  Speaker 2: You can't lose. And they looked bad in that game.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: They looked bad. They didn't have a plan.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And look, Ime, people were very high on Ime coming
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  Speaker 2: out of that year with the Celtics. Which, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: another year where he did not have a point guard,
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  Speaker 2: to be fair to him. But man, those dudes would
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  Speaker 2: blow some games, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and same issue with a very lack of creative
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  Speaker 3: offense late in games.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he has tough teams. He has teams that go hard.
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  Speaker 2: And I contend also that a big part of why
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  Speaker 2: so many people were so into him in Boston is
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  Speaker 2: deep down inside, A lot of y'all agree with Robert Sarver.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like one day, Brad Stevens,
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  Speaker 2: who is an excellent coach, looked around and he would
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  Speaker 2: never use the same words as Robert Sarver. But he
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  Speaker 2: appeared to arrive at a very similar conclusion as Robert
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  Speaker 2: Sarver and decided that those brothers needed a brother. And
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  Speaker 2: E-May was the coach. And E-May came in there and
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  Speaker 2: E-May was talking bad to him. calling them punks, all
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I don't think he used that
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  Speaker 2: exact word, but you know what I mean? But people
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  Speaker 2: love the idea of somebody getting in an NBA player's face,
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  Speaker 2: telling them they ain't shit. They love that. E-May did that.
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  Speaker 2: They went to the finals. People was ready to put
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  Speaker 2: E-May in the Hall of Fame immediately. Jimmy Butler hits
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  Speaker 2: that three in those conference finals that he walked into,
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  Speaker 2: and they have the biggest Game 7 collapse, I think,
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  Speaker 2: maybe ever in the Eastern Conference Finals. That's the same coach,
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  Speaker 2: all right? They got these guys out here, and right,
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  Speaker 2: it looked like they didn't have a plan. You know
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  Speaker 2: who did have a plan? Because he seems to always
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  Speaker 2: have a plan, LeBron. That's who had a plan. You
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  Speaker 2: know what LeBron looked like? LeBron looked like, damn, I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know what to call it. LeBron looked like
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  Speaker 2: he had been sitting in the back seat, riding in
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  Speaker 2: the middle seat. I don't know what they call that
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  Speaker 2: where you're from, Ryan, but where I'm from, they call
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  Speaker 2: it but I'm not going to say it in front
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  Speaker 2: of my mama. You understand what I'm saying? But LeBron
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  Speaker 2: looked like.
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  Speaker 3: I think backseat driving is a.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm talking about that specific seat.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's call it backseat driving.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the one that said he wasn't even driving. He's
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  Speaker 2: just in the backseat.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the backseat, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's just back there. Think about this with the backseat.
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  Speaker 2: The backseat changed so much that the car makers stopped
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  Speaker 2: even pretending that they were really for five.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They started being like, all right, seats four comfortably. That's
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  Speaker 2: what they started doing. But anyway, LeBron had been riding
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  Speaker 2: in the back. LeBron used to drive. That's all LeBron
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  Speaker 2: did was drive. Now he in the back and he
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  Speaker 2: could tell people when to drive. Don't nobody care when
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  Speaker 2: LeBron say to turn. Don't nobody care. Hey, you're going
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  Speaker 2: a little too fast. Don't nobody care anymore. LeBron just
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  Speaker 2: back there. Let me know when you need something, right?
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  Speaker 2: But no, now LeBron back in the front seat. And
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  Speaker 2: he was like, it's like a glove. He would hit
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  Speaker 2: that preset button over there on the left. Press that
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  Speaker 2: button number one. slid right back to where his legs
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  Speaker 2: ordinarily go. Now you got to understand LeBron a little
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  Speaker 2: older than he used to. So he got to change
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  Speaker 2: the lumbar support a little bit to get him a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of help or whatever it is. But he
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  Speaker 2: looked very happy to be back in the position. The
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  Speaker 2: only position in basketball that he has known since he
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  Speaker 2: was six years old.
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  Speaker 3: It's him and not just him doing that role, him
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  Speaker 3: in that role. With a bunch of people, with the pips.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, man, I feel like a kid again.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: This is like back to 06 or 07. I got
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  Speaker 2: a white in the corner here. Living the LeBron James life.
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  Speaker 2: And good for him. Because let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: I say I don't know who's going to win this series.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know who's going to win this series. If
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  Speaker 2: they do, I think that this would be quite an
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  Speaker 2: achievement for him. Because I don't think Reeves or Lukaku
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  Speaker 2: is going to come back in the course of this series.
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  Speaker 2: If he were with Kevin Durant, without Kevin Durant, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: If this Lakers team that none of us at any
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  Speaker 2: point this year have thought was as good as its record,
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  Speaker 2: Every time they did something well, we went right back
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  Speaker 2: to yeah, but, right? Their record is this. Okay, but
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  Speaker 2: what is your point differential? Okay, they go on this
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  Speaker 2: run where Luka is terrorizing the league at the end. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you're not going to do anything in the playoffs, right?
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  Speaker 2: We know you don't have a chance. We know Houston
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a chance. Maybe it's okay. They worked out together.
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  Speaker 2: But everything at every point was a yeah, but. If
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  Speaker 2: LeBron could take these guys, he out there with a
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  Speaker 2: dude that seems to cut his own hair. And all
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: I'm saying about that dude is I don't know what
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: it's been like to grow up as Rui Achimura. I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like to try to find
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  Speaker 2: a barbershop in Tokyo when you are Rui Achimura. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? He's been in the league for
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  Speaker 2: all these years looking like Bruce fucking Leroy with that
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  Speaker 2: curly situation that he had going on there, right? Clearly
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  Speaker 2: there's some things going on with him that I don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: But I am going to tell him is this. You
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  Speaker 2: in America, you don't have to go to Little Tokyo
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  Speaker 2: to get your hair cut. The brothers will cut your
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  Speaker 2: hair down there on Crenshaw or whatever it was. Somebody
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  Speaker 2: might do it for you for free. But I looked
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  Speaker 2: at whatever it was that he had going on in
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  Speaker 2: the course of that game. I'm like, I don't even understand.
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  Speaker 2: It was all straight. It was all very, very, very confusing.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one of the people that LeBron James has
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  Speaker 2: to rely on to make shots. A man that appears
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  Speaker 2: to cut his own hair. That's tough. We're asking for
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  Speaker 2: a lot out of LeBron. And LeBron got it done.
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  Speaker 2: It looked good. Now, of course, Ryan, LeBron's 137 years old.
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  Speaker 2: There's no telling if he's going to be able to
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  Speaker 2: pull this off. in the next game.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We don't, we don't know what it's going to look
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  Speaker 2: at look like, but 19, 13 and eight and a
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  Speaker 2: plus 11. Look good.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, I think he said he, uh, like
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  Speaker 3: I said, he said on that golf show, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he goes to bed questionable and wakes up doubtful.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's going to be either two to four
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  Speaker 3: weeks of that in playoff basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, let me tell you who I do think though,
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  Speaker 2: probably stands to gain the most out of this. Um,
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  Speaker 2: That's DeAndre Ayton.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like the only like look, Chris Paul, who already helped
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  Speaker 2: DeAndre Ayton make a gazillion dollars. Right. I think Chris
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  Speaker 2: Paul and LeBron are the two guys that are like, hey, man,
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: just go be tall. It's like buddy in the sandlot.
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  Speaker 2: Just go stand over there with your hand up. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Just stand over there like that.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you worry. It'll get to you the way that
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  Speaker 2: you need it.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Lakers. Shout out to them also. They got more Caucasians
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: in the tuck. They had two Caucasians play in that game.
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  Speaker 2: And they got two that got DNP coaches decisions. When
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  Speaker 2: the white boys goes down, don't you worry. Don't connect.
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  Speaker 2: Getting ready. Maxie Kleber. He out there. I wonder if
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  Speaker 2: he's ever heard of Maxie Priest. Anyway, that was enjoyable.
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  Speaker 2: Like that game was a good one. Minnesota. So Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: and Denver. I was talking to somebody about this. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize this ride. This Minnesota dude, they don't like
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: It is not simply like, oh, we've had some good
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  Speaker 2: games or whatever it is. They don't like those dudes.
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  Speaker 2: I told somebody, it's like, it don't matter what year
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  Speaker 2: it is. I'm turning on Minnesota, Denver, and Anthony Edwards
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: is passing the ball to somebody I've never heard of.
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  Speaker 2: In this case, Ayo Dusunmu, and he's hitting a wide
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  Speaker 2: open three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like Minnesota is such a terrible matchup for whatever reason
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  Speaker 2: for Denver. We saw them put them out of the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs a couple of years ago. But this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be a fun one. It's just I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: just seems to me to be a matter of like
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  Speaker 2: how well Aaron Gordon holds up.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, you saw him in the season
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  Speaker 3: last year hobbling around on one leg.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Look, healthy Aaron Gordon Nuggets might be the best team
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  Speaker 2: in the West. You know, like, it's there. They are
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  Speaker 2: that good. Jamal Murray's been that good. Christian Brown, see,
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  Speaker 2: this is why the Nuggets are going to win a
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  Speaker 2: championship this year. They got the team back together that
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  Speaker 2: they had for the championship that they ain't had. Brown
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  Speaker 2: and Browner. Which one is which? Yeah, they got Brown back.
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  Speaker 2: They got the other Brown he'd been there. Brown and
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  Speaker 2: Brown is back in business, baby. It's out here making
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  Speaker 2: it happen.
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Also, I felt like Christian Brown and my boy Dante,
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  Speaker 2: they was out there looking like the Spider-Man being in
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  Speaker 2: that game.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: They're the same guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They even get their hair cut by the same dude.
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  Speaker 2: Someone who they need to introduce to Rumi Achimura. But
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  Speaker 2: that's a good game. Hawks Nuggets. I mean, Hawks Nuggets.
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  Speaker 2: Hawks and Knicks. That's going to be interesting. I talked
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  Speaker 2: to Vinny there. Madison Square Garden was cracking, but also
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  Speaker 2: like tense in there. The mayor got it wrong where
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: he talked about blaming everything on Trey Young. Did you
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  Speaker 2: see that?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's a good bit, though.
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  Speaker 2: Can I have safe space?
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  Speaker 5: Always.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: I forgot to. I was like, I don't understand why
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: people are sitting this route. This doesn't make any sense.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, yeah, Trey Young doesn't play for them anymore.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: I completely forgot about that. Oops.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: He should just show up anyway.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I know this, though.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Like a wrestling character.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this. I saw Stephen A. Smith say this.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: And he's right. Ain't about no analysis. Ain't about nothing else.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: This is very simple what I got for you right now.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Knicks better not lose to the Hawks, brother.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: No.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: No, you can't, especially, you know, they will run cat
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: out of town.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: They will run cat out of town. And look, I
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: was talking about Brown and Browner, but they'll treat Mike
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Brown like the brownest of them all. They'll be, nah,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: but nah, they expect to go to the NBA finals.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: They fired the dude that went to the conference finals.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: The expectation is they're going to the NBA finals. Losing
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: to the Hawks. Like you might be able to get
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: to the second round and something happens and people let
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: it slide. Losing to the Hawks.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Can't be that.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: No, sir.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Um, Philadelphia 76ers, they're going to be out of here
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: real soon, as are the Phoenix Suns. Now, again, play-in situation, right?
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's just what it was. The Sixers have a
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: lot of guys whom I have heard of. It feels
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: like they should be better.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, Paul George missed a good chunk of the
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: season due to that bizarre suspension, and you'd think he'd
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: be rested, but he just looks.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: He was on the steroids that he took for his
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: mental health. Yeah. I don't think I'm allowed to laugh
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: because he said, but he had the Lexapro make them
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: steroids now. Is that what that stuff called? Lexapro?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, apparently he got the Anabolicon. Look, man, I
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, but the Celtics look good.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: The Thunder look good. The playoffs are here. I am excited. Um,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie, though. We're recording this before
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: San Antonio plays Portland and before Detroit plays Orlando. There
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: are two reasons. You don't care about Detroit and Orlando.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: And we saw enough from these other play in matchups
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: that I am reserving the right to go to sleep
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: whenever I damn well please tonight. OK, it's a long season.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I got to rest up. All right, Ryan, so I
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: was in South America, minding my own business, casually tapping in,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: kind of seeing what's going on. You know what I mean? Like,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I enjoy what I do. I don't feel the need
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: to be like, I'm not going to pay attention to
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: any sports. That's ridiculous. I don't want to do that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Me and the homie Vinny, we was made a run.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I think we went to like Playa del Carmen, right?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: You know, see what's cracking out there. And it was
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: when Imei got fired by the Celtics.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that was a fun night.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: No, we were just, it was the whole day. We
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: are just all, each of us, you hit up who
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to hit up who I know.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: We're just on our phones. It is like, this is like, otherwise,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: you can't go to Beat Writer. Beat Writers are always
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: on the beat, right? Right. So I'm like, nah, man,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: put your phone down. No, not for that one.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Not for that one. Because we forget how scandalous that
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: was and how out of nowhere that was. And it
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: was just... rumor and innuendo and uh that that's the
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: best time.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Yes like that was a phenomenal time but i say
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: all that to say when i'm on vacation i'll pop
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: in a little bit right like even ryan was like
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: you know i know you're on vacation i'm like i
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: probably won't mind what you have to talk about right
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: you know what i mean like okay we'll do that
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: so a story popped up while i was gone i
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: felt like it was still going strong through friday ryan
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: am i wrong about yes okay And it's the AZ
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Fudd situation in Dallas. Now, I've discussed before, and I
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: understand if you are a WNBA fan and you wish
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: that we would talk about the basketball more and not
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: all this other stuff that comes around it. I understand
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: why you feel that way. But again... People don't seem
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: to enjoy when I try to talk about the basketball
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: and it makes it less fun for me in reverse.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I saw somebody say they're like, oh, you blame it
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: on haters. I'm not blaming it on haters. I'm just
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: saying we ain't got a chemistry about those things.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: But larger macro issues. Wheelhouse, baby. That is what I do.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: And that situation, I think, is so interesting and so amazing.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Amazing is maybe going too far. It just felt right
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: when I said that. I do think it's very interesting, right?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: And I think it is a reflection of of something,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and Ryan, you know me, I love talking about this,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: about how the internet has broken our brains, right? And
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the internet has turned just about everything into something for
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: people to fight about and everything to get tribal about
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: and everything else. And the WNBA is so online to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: its own detriment, I would make the argument, right? And
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: it's online in a very particular way that feels very familiar,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: like five to 10 years ago, Like it's, it's, it's
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: a league in search of a safe space, which I'm
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: not saying as an insult, right? I'm not saying that
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to be dismissive. It is understandable, right? Like it's a,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: it is a league full of people who are members
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: of a, a marginalized group, then further marginalization below that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: And it's often very, very young people that are involved
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: in this league and, On the internet, at least, I
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: find that women older than those women have a tendency
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to be very protective when they see up-and-coming women in
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: their late teens and early 20s that they like, that
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: they want to protect them from the big bad world,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: or if nothing else, protect them from a lot of
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the things that they went through coming up, right? All
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: of that. But it makes a very interesting stew of
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: when something crosses over that involves a certain measure of
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: controversy and the discussion can truly become maddening at points,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: at least for me, because the conversations deviate from most
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: of the established paradigms that I understand in terms of
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: how we talk about and how we cover sports. Now,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: this is something that I've talked about in the past,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: which is the reason that it can feel that way
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: with the WNBA, because these paradigms are built around the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: idea that sports, are played by men with implicit in men,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: straight men, right? Like everything, so much of what we do,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: what is okay, how we go about things is based
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: on that, right? Men part first, the straight men part
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: is implicit, but as important as we'll get into here.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: But for example, watching women's basketball game, And see if
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you ever hear anything involving the word big. It's impolite
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: to say a woman is big. So we don't say big.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I've seen or heard the phrase good size.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: But what's the woman's name that played for Iowa State
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and just transferred? Audie Crooks.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Audie Crooks, yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Imagine the nicknames that we would have for her.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: If she were a man. And I know this because
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I can think of some of them. You're probably too
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: young to remember the meat hook.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Right? That's before my time.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't remember the meat hook. But Glenn Davis
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: was like a more athletic version of the meat hook.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: But all those guys, Khalid El-Amin, the way we used
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to joke about him and everything else, we joke about
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: fat basketball players. We love fat basketball players. Right? There's
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: a whole, like, we kind of have eradicated them from
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the game now. But, you know.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jokic and Luka have their moments.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: But they ain't no Stanley Roberts. They ain't no Glenn Davis.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: It ain't the meat hook. Like those guys are t-shirt fat.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Or shack on, you know, certain basketball teams that need
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: them to do this career.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But we don't talk about women that way, right? It's,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: it is, the paradigm is different, but the paradigm seems
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that it has not like been fully established. Like, I
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: wonder if we need to have meetings, right? And what
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I mean by meeting is, Ryan, you and I both
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: have a tendency to read doom and gloom books about technology, right? Yes.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I read a different one. Did I tell you about
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: this one? It's called, this is for everyone.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I have not read that one, no.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: So it is a book by the literal inventor of
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the World Wide Whip. which is a fascinating idea to
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: consider that somebody could invent the World Wide Web. But
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: he did, right? But one thing that was interesting in
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: reading that book they talked about was that so much
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: of what the internet is, like HTTP as a protocol,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: HTTPS as secure, the use of HTML language and everything,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: all of these things were determined in conferences. It started
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: small enough that they would all get together and be like, okay,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: so this is how we're going to write for the internet.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: This is how we're going to code for the internet.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: These are the protocols that we're going to use, so
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: forth and so on. And it all built up to
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: where all these things are established in the internet through
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: all these changes. It still builds upon what was there, right?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like we need to get together and have
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: a conference about this in terms of how we talk
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: about women's basketball or something, because it seems like something happens.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: And as a media, in some total, we are wildly
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: unprepared for what to do, even though something might happen
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: that we know happens. Like two players dating. This happens
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: in this world, right? And it's interesting for me because
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I used to date a basketball player and she told
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: me that the one rule of teams, and I'm going
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: to sanitize this for the audience a little bit, is
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: don't sleep with your teammates. Apparently that rule is not
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: as ironclad as she had me to believe. So I
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: realize I've gone a long way around this. Here's what happened.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know, AZ Fudd played
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: at UConn. She was the National Player of the Year
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: this year. Paige Beckers played at UConn last year. She
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: was the National Player.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Well, no.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Kate Clark was the National Player of the Year. No,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: she was not. She was really good. She was really
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: good at UConn, yes.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Say again?
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: She was really good at UConn.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: There we go. Look at me, showing all that knowledge. Anyway,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Paige plays for the Dallas Wings. She was the number
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: one overall pick. They got the number one overall pick
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: again this year. They drafted AZ Fudd. The thing is,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Those two dated or I'm saying dated in the past
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: tense because I know that in the past they had dated.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I have no idea whether they date right now. OK,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: but they have dated. Right.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: That is on the record by their by their own words.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It's on the record by their own words. It's on
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the record by the time I saw a picture of
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: AZ Foot at a basketball game with a phone case
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: that said on the back, Paige Becker's girlfriend. I have
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: seen video of them on Instagram with the how well
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: do you know your basketball playing girlfriend, spouse, whatever it is.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: And Paige Becker's just running through all the things. It's
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: not a secret.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: It was not a secret. Yeah, I've seen people.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Talk about this as though it was some kind of rumor.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, it can't be because I know. Like
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: it got all the way here. This is a thing
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: that people know what people are aware of. And so
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: after Fuddy got drafted there, I saw that there was
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: discussion about, so like, are we going to talk about
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the thing here? And the thing is you got a
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: franchise player and it looks like you just drafted a girlfriend. That's,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: A thing.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Okay? Now, what kind of thing you can say in
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: your head right now, whatever it is, but the bottom
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: line is, that is a thing. Now, let's fast forward
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: to the introductory press conference that she has when she
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: gets to Dallas. And I imagine, Ryan, that was a
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: room full of people saying the following. You gonna ask?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Which one of you?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Me?
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: You?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Not a lot of elbowing. You got it, dawg. You know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I was always admired you for your courage.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Then a gentleman asked the question. I thought he asked
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: it very professionally.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Like he brought it up. Like you said on Tik TOK, Yes.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: It was a way of introducing the question. Like, like
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: not like he was inferring or making an assumption.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: He asked. Yeah. I mean, I don't remember exactly what
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the phrasing was, but the elephant in the room was
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: addressed by the question and the Dallas wings PR team
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: jumped on that grenade. Right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: They're like, Hey, Hey, Hey, no, we're not going to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: have any questions about that. And obviously there was a
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: lot of discussion about how the PR team actually made
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: it worse for because they made it more of a
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: story by doing that. I will just throw this out there,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: and I do not know anything. I want to be
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: very clear about this. However, there are reasons why I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: could see why the PR team would decide to do that.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: And it would be a reminder, we don't know the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: particulars of what that relationship is, and maybe that person does,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and there's a reason why they jumped in. I don't know. However,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I fully push back on the idea that this is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: none of our business.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: And you know why it's our business? Because y'all told us.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't ask about any of this stuff. I know
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: this because they told us. I think that's fair to say, right?
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Speaking of being extremely online.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you a story. A friend of our show,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll even hear this, but a
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: friend of our show had a situation once where he
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: was married and his wife's brother came to stay with
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: them and overstayed his welcome. But he wouldn't leave. And
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: my man could not kick him out. And he goes
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and asks questions about it. He eventually had to get
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the sheriff to give him some paperwork. Basically, he had
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to go to eviction court to evict the person from
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: the house.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I say that to say, once you let somebody into
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: your house, you can't just tell them to leave.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can, but they don't have to leave.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: You're the one that invited them in. Once you've invited
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: them in, they got a seat at the table. That's
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: how it works. And your business is the exact same way.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Once you let people in, it's very difficult to then
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: go to the, hey, it's none of your business. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: You told me we could come in here. I didn't
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: even want to. I was on the way to go
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: do something else, but you was like, no, no, no,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: come on in here and get a slice of cake.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't even ask to get in there. But functionally speaking,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: That's how it works. Once you make a decision that
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: your relationship is going to be public, your relationship is public.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I can understand why you might not want to talk
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: about it, but that's how it works. Now, let's add
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: it to this. You tell me if I'm wrong here, Ryan.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: If A.Z. Fudd had moved to Dallas and was dating
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, there would be a question at the press
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: conference about it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: And that would have nothing to do with basketball. Okay?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: If She showed up and she was dating Big X
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: the plug.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Would get brought up.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You know, your boyfriend lives in Dallas too. You know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: what's that going to be? And look, she would have
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the option of being like, yeah, I don't really want
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: to talk about that right now. But okay, cool. But
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: that question is going to come up. But you think
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that you're dating somebody on the team? And that's not
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: a question? That actually has something to do with basketball.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And you think like people think that's not a question
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: to ask. I don't think that's it. That's not invasive
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: at that point. And by the way, it's endlessly fascinating
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: for those of us who don't exist in the world
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: of women's basketball. This don't happen over in our other world.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Like maybe it does happen and we just don't know. Right. Ryan,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: you ever heard of the culture club?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: You know the situation they had going on over there?
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I am unfamiliar.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: All right, so you're familiar with Boy George. Yes. He
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: was in a relationship with the guitar player who was
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: very not out. And it was a thing. It would
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: cause them a lot of trouble or whatever it is.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I say that to say maybe that's happening on one
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: of these NBA teams that ain't nobody ever told us, right? Right.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: but we don't, we don't have this.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: It would be a story if it did.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: This is new to us. We don't have this happen
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: in the world of men's sports. So this coming up, no,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: this is interesting. This is a question to ask. How
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: do you balance that? How do you manage such a thing?
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Like I've seen things in women's games where you'll see
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: two women who are in a relationship who play on
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: different teams and one of them break up a fight
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: involving the other and be like, all right, we'll talk
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: about this later or whatever. Like, This league is a
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: different kind of league. And I get that. But we
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: don't have any rules for how it is that we
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: talk about it or any understanding of what it is
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: that we do. But you date your teammate. That's you
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: know why that's a question. It's a basketball question. I
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: just saw something about a couple who, again, the perils
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: of being public in your relationship. They had to put
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: out a statement and a video because they broke up.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: And by the way, they're not going to do any
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: podcast together no more. Because that's what happens when you
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: break up with somebody, right? Like there's nothing crazy about that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: That all makes sense, right? That's what happens when you
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: break up. So what happens when you break up and
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: you're on the same team? These are legitimate, real live questions.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: By the way, I would hate to be the coach.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Like these are these are actual things that come up.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: And I was so surprised to see a number of
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: people act as though this is not something worthy of discussion. Now,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I want to be clear. I thought the majority of
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: people involved in this did think that this was a
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: question to be asked. Right. It is one that requires
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: a certain level of finesse, one that I would have
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: been terrified to ask because I don't know if I
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: would have enough finesse to have gotten it right. But
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: not everything has to be a tribal fight. And not everything,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: there was no need to protect that grown woman in
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that time. She was 23 years old, right? I feel
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: like she was probably ready to deal with that question.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Had to be in some form or fashion. If not,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: that's her fault. But this is a grown-up world. This
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: is at least my understanding of how things work in
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: this world, okay? That's how it goes. Is it not
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: how it works over there? I don't know. I don't
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: traffic in that nearly enough. But I say this from
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the standpoint of somebody who like works in media and
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: sees how these things go. You can't tell people they can't.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Even if it's just a softball question. It's not like
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: people are necessarily going to need to update every week.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it's not like, oh,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: so how you guys doing? Hey, I saw you guys
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: weren't passing the ball to each other. What's that all about?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think it necessarily has to be that. Or
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: how about this? You guys played together at UConn, where
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I think you might have been dating. You know, what
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: is that?
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: How's your relationship changing now that you're on the same
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: team in the pros?
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: And by the way, don't you tell me for a
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: second the public doesn't want to know. And that's a
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: big part of the job of the reporters is to
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: ask these things. But I don't know. I just thought
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: that these were all real questions that I thought it was.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I thought it was all fair game for people who
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: behave professionally about it. And I thought ultimately it was
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: handled professionally. But it just came to be another example
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: of how as a media in a larger way, we
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: are not prepared to deal with this league. And number two,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I think this is something I've talked about before and
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: we got to figure out how to deal with this part.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: How many people who cover this league do not treat
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: it like a league or a business, but rather treat
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: it like a cause? Because it's not.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: At least in the way that I understand that we
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: deal with these things. This is sports. If we are
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: going to treat it as a cause, that is fine,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: but I'm just here to let you know, people don't
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: get paid that much money to work for causes. You
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, I don't mean as much
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: as I mean, just saying just generally, that's not, that's
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: not how I understand sports to work. And if sports
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: over there is going to work completely differently. And I
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: think there's room for media coverage to be a little
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: bit more humane. I think that's fair, but I also
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: think we get a bad rap. I don't think we're
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: nearly as terrible, especially in sports to the people that
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: we cover as advertised because they have all the leverage. Now,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: you know, the people, the people who are bad to
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: the people, the, the, the media members who are bad
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to the players are, are the people farthest removed from
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the play. And I say that as somebody who is
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: pretty decently removed from the players in the work that
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I do. But the ones that you got to watch
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: out for are not the ones that are showing up
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: to a press conference. That man took that for everybody.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: It's people who are coming in over the top of
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• 37:06
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• 37:07
  Speaker 2: But like that guy right there, he did that for
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the squad. He need to be the beat writer of
• 37:11
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  Speaker 3: All right, Bo, if you haven't heard, big news in
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: the NFL draft. The Bengals traded the 10th overall pick
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: to the Giants in exchange for defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: They gave him a one-year, $ 28 million extension. Bo, what
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: was your biggest reaction to this news?
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: That this was clearly only kind of, sort of about money.
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  Speaker 2: And Dexter Lawrence hated playing for the Giants so much
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: that he went to the Bengals. Look, a one-year $ 28
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: million extension on this? Now, okay, so for those who
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: don't know, the thing is that Lawrence had three years
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: left on his contract, and he wanted an extension because
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the market blew up since he had done that, and
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: he is absolutely their best player, right? Period. So the
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Giants did not want to renegotiate. But what I thought
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: was interesting about this was they tried to pull it together.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: They tried to get the general manager out of it
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: because apparently Lawrence does not like the general manager. They
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: tried to get him out of it. They want to
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: call Harbaugh in. And he was like, no, I don't
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: want to talk to him like he was afraid the
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Harbaugh might talk him into state. He had just decided
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: he's going to be out of here. And this is
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the first time in the history of the NFL. that
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: anybody has said to himself, I can't get the money
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: that I want here, but I bet I can from
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: the Bengals. No one has ever said that. Ever. And
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: by the way, did not get that much money from
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: the Bengals.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: No, just the one year extension.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: But also one year at 28. And so 28, I
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: was talking to somebody in the business about this, and
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: they're like, 28 is low for his 2024 performance. But
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: for his 2025 performance, perhaps 28 is right in line.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: But that just tells me that this was not strictly
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: about the money. What it also tells us now is
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: that the Giants and the Jets combined have 25% of
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the first 16 picks in the draft. Each of them
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: has two in the first 16. And, buddy, we get
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: to see how they fold chances to fuck it up.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Cannot wait and also not only do people go to
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati to get paid People saying, I need to go
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: to Cincinnati to be under better management.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Yes!
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Like, this is the Giants, man. You and I have
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: been here about the same amount of time.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I think we got here 2017. Yes, yes. So we
• 42:57
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• 43:00
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  Speaker 2: Things First with Nick for a while. Me and Nick
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: got here the same week.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Like, we literally got here the same week. We've seen
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: one good football team between two franchises in nine years.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: It seems, I mean, keeping Joe Shane around, I don't
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: think that Giants situation is getting better anytime soon.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: The Giants, they love some ochre, boy. They love Eli's
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: ochre ass. They kept Daniel Jones' ochre ass around as
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: long as they possibly could, but they get a hold
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: of some ochre, and they 100% do not let go.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, imagine if they tried to trade five and
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: ten for one to get Mendoza. Talk about someone who
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: would fit in great with how the quarterbacks they kind
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: of like.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: And you remember like there was a run for a
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: while during the draft where they would always talk about
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: all the hardships and tragedies that all the players had
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: gone through. It had gone just a little bit too far.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: You think they could do that with the Giants except
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: they'd be taught by Steve Tisch? You remember him? He
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: was the dude that was in the Epstein files where
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the girls were complaining because he was looking for love.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: And they was just trying to get in a movie.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: They was just like, I thought I could kick it
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: with him, maybe kick it to him, and then I
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: would get in movie. And they're like, no, he's trying
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: to go on dates and ask him how they feel.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: And they're like, what are you talking about? Anyway, let's
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: talk about that during the draft.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Speaking of dysfunction at MetLife, FIFA and New Jersey Transit
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: are having a bit of an impasse. Right now, World
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Cup train tickets coming back from games at MetLife confirmed
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: to be One hundred and fifty dollars. If you want
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: the cheaper option, you can take the alternative bus priced
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: at eighty dollars per seat. But what was your reaction
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: to this news?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: So when I got back, I was at the airport
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: on Saturday and I was reading the sign. I was
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: reading in Spanish because I like to practice. I don't
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: know the right word. Right. But what is the politically
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: correct term for an unlicensed taxi? I don't know what
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the word is that we could use now, but something
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: tells me they're going to be out there deep. Yeah. Deep.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: This is unlicensed. The World Cup? Because, I mean, I've
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: gotten got by the unlicensed.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Probably around the same time I moved here.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Man, I got to the airport one day and this
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: smoking hot woman walked up on me and was like,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: do you need a ride?
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need a ride.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I need a ride with you. But I forget what
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: usury rates she charged me for that ride. But. The idea,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: New Jersey Transit is making the argument that they have
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: not gotten any money to account for everything that's going
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: to happen, so they need to make the money back
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: off a $ 180 train ride. $ 150 train rides, yeah. Sorry, $ 150.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: But still.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: And how much was it, $ 80 for the bus?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: In New Jersey?
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: No!
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: No! No, and I saw something where people were like,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I saw a lot of people were like giving the hacks,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: like if you, you know, well, if you go here
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and catch this bus, you can pay to A, man.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: If you ain't from here, if you really come to it,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I do recommend you pay to 180. The locals, y'all
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: can play these other, you got here playing these reindeer games,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: but you out here fucking around, just trying to navigate
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: New Jersey transit. Yeah, good luck.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: And finally, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame revealed
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: its 2026 class. Phil Collins, Billy Idol, Iron Maiden, Oasis City,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Luther Vandross, and the Wu-Tang Clan all make up the
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: 2026 class. Bo, what was your reaction to this group?
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I have to give you my hot take in looking
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: at that full range of people that were on that list.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I kind of understand Gene Simmons' point. I know that
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: this makes people very upset. The Gene Simmons thing is,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: this is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: should be for rock and roll artists. I think that
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: rock and roll is used more as a branding term.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: It is to speak a little bit more about an
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: ethos or a generation than it is about the specific
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: sort of music. But I can totally understand how somebody
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: could look at this list of people and be like,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: so tell me what the fuck they have in common.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, I see why somebody
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: would have that point. The thing that struck me, though,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: from looking at this is they're running out of people.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Okay? And I say that you just got around to
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Luther Vance.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Or just got around to Phil Collins.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were ever going to put them in,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: you just got around to it. Phil seems to be
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: a polarizing figure. Like, white people don't like Phil nearly
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: as much as me and my people, it seems. Even
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: though Phil sold a gazillion Interesting. And has an incredible catalog.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: But like David Bowie disavows himself of let disavowed himself
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: of less dance toward the end. And he would say, quote,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I was in my Phil Collins phase, unquote, as though
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: that's an insult.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: I did not realize there were this kind of vitriol
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: from my own about.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: There's a little too cool for school. I love him.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: There's a little too cool for school element when it
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: comes to Phil. Billy Idol ain't no business in nobody's
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. He's just a dude that made some
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: cool songs. Right.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: At a point.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Joy Division got a song I know. Oasis, I get it, generationally. Sade, again,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: you just got around to it. Her first album came
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: out 41 years ago. By the way, white people love Sade.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: If you ever get a chance, look up how many
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: records Sade sold, album after album after album. They sold
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: double platinum every single time out. They are so rich
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: just off selling records. But you just got around to that?
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Like we're just here. They're running out of people, guys.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: they're running out of people.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: All right bo a lot of voicemails as we were
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: uh you were on vacation last week a bunch of
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: good ones here's our first.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Yo what's up bo This is Travis down here in
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: New Orleans. And I got a question for you. And
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you the story that made me
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: spot a question.
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: But the question is, what's the wildest thing you have
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: ever seen up.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Close or on the sidelines of a football game?
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: Now, we was discussing this with a couple of friends
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: of mine.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I went to North Carolina.
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  Speaker 5: A & T while.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I played ball.
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: And One of my teammates had said he was being
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: recruited at the time by North Carolina.
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: And he was on the sidelines of North Carolina as
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: Greg Jones, if you so violently remember.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: Put his forearm into the chest of some young man
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: and completely decapitated him for everybody to see.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: But he says, as that happened... Greg Jones.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: At some point looked to the sideline and said, I'm
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: too big for this shit. He said at that point,
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: he looked around and thought to himself, you know what?
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: Maybe D1 ain't where I need to be.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: He said later on he committed.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: To North Carolina A & T where I had met him,
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: and he said he had not regretted his decision.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: The other thing he said was, This was ACC football.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: What was ACC football like?
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  Speaker 6: And I can only imagine because the rules was a
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: little bit different around that time, too.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, I just wanted to ask that question.
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  Speaker 5: What's the wildest thing you've ever seen on the sidelines
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: of any sporting event?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: First of all, Ryan, are you familiar with the Greg
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Jones play?
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Okay. Here's what people need to understand. and he referred
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: to that other guy like he was just some guy.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: The other dude's name was Dexter Reed. Dexter Reed was
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: an awesome college football player. Like, Dexter Reed was not
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: some bum. That play was a metaphor for that whole
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: year of Dexter Reed coming from the other side of
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: the field, trying to make a tackle that some bum
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: couldn't make, and then this is the price that he
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: paid for it. If you look, Dexter Reed jumped right
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: up and was shaking his head at him to say
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: there wasn't no back down in him because that's the
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: kind of dude Dexter Reed was. And that's who Greg
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Jones did that to.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: It's all we're saying, right? You don't want no problems
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: with Dexter Reed. Just to be abundantly clear, D. Reed,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I'd never met D. Reed myself, but that was my
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: first year at Carolina. That was the first football game
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Carolina had after I had shown up on campus. It
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: was also the first game of the new Jumbotron. And
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: so they ran it over and over again.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Rack it back.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Rack it back. It was so... I'm telling you, dude.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Dee Reeves was no joke. I can't say that enough. Anyway, wow.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I keep getting stuck on that. I would say I
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: have two things that stick with me for being on sidelines. One...
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I went on the sideline once for a Clark Morehouse game.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I want to say in 05, this is Division II football.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'd been on the sidelines of a
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: college game at that point. I'm like 25. I was
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: standing behind Denzel Washington because the Sun was on the
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: team at the time. Hey, man, if that's what Division
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: II was hitting on, I was like, oh, no, there's
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: no way. My mama tells a story about my brother.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: My brother's always been a fairly big fella, right? He
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: thought about playing football. And mama got him on the
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: sideline at Clark when she worked there when he was
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: growing up. Got him on the sideline to watch a game.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Said he watched the whole game. Said they were leaving
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: the game. Said he didn't say anything. I think they
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: got back to the car. Said mama looked at her
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: and said, you know what? I think I'm going to
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: just be in the band. But for me personally, 2008
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: at Kenan Stadium, the same place, Carolina played Virginia Tech.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And this was the second year of Butch Davis. That
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: was a really talented team. And this was like a
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: big game. And they played really well against Virginia Tech
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: until TJ Yates got hurt and they had to bring
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: in a backhoe quarterback named Mike Paulus. Mike Paulus was
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: a heavily touted recruiter quarterback. He was Greg Paulus' younger brother,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: for those of you who don't remember this. And so
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: what we had here was a redshirt freshman quarterback being
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: thrown to the wolves of Bud Foster. And I went
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: down to the sideline. For that game, for that last drive.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think you understand those two and a half
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: seconds that you got to make a decision in. It's
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: really fast. It's really, really fast. I watched a young
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: man's career end before it even started. I could not
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: believe that they were getting.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: There that fast. You know Bud Foster smelled like food.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Yep, food. That was it. He did that to JT Barrett.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: That year, Ohio State won the championship. His first start
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: was against Navy. They lost a home game to Virginia Tech.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it. Bud Foster, who'd been running the same
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: plays since 1994, was like, food. Watch what we do
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: with our food. Oh, my God. I was like, I
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: can't believe that people do this. you know, back then
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: for free. Gotta be kidding.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our next one.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Bo, I love all the Prince content you have been
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: doing lately. I'm a big Prince fan myself. Mark from
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Los Angeles. And it's funny, if anyone hears this that
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: knows me, and they say, Mark from Los Angeles, talking
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: about Prince, they'll know exactly who I am. Because since
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I was six years old, people have been telling me,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: you look like Prince. Do you know who you look like?
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: Do you know who you look like? Do you know
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: who you look like?
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: The Prince.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Hits and B-sides profile picture could be my senior picture. Anyways,
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: going off of everything you have been doing on the
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: last Throwback Tuesdays and the Wally Sparks, I just had
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: a story, thought I would share it with the crew.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: My girlfriend in 2001 won concert tickets from the radio
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: station in Oakland to see Prince. And she knew, like,
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: that was my guy. So we go, and I'm not
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: saying I could touch the wall in the nosebleed seats,
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: like to the edge of the stadium, but I could
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: see it. But we're sitting seven stories up. Prince comes out.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: It's 2001. He does, like, Let It Go. He does, like, Emancipation.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: He's doing just new stuff. Nothing classic. Nothing that anyone who,
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: you know, would come to see Prince came to see him.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: He does the show. He ends the show. He says,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: thank you, Oakland. Good night.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: He walks off.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: There is a purple light emanating from the stage. And
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: it goes and everyone gets up and they go, I
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: guess the show is over. I go, why is that
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: light on? And people get up and they leave and
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: it's five minutes and they get up and they leave
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: and it's seven minutes and they get up and they leave.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: 20 minutes. I say, I am not leaving because that
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: light is on for a reason.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: All these people leave.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: It's like the 2013 heat or whatever it is. I
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: don't know. 20 minutes in, Prince comes out and does
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Purple Rain track to track, front to back. And I'm
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: standing up there in room row 27,000 jamming out to
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: hearing him do Purple Rain, the entire album for another
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: two hours. Just like it's nothing. It's nothing. And that's
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: my Prince story. So don't leave concerts early. Thank you
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: for what you're doing. Mark from Los Angeles. Yes, I
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: look like Prince.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I know it. Have a good day.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Yo, that was an amazing payoff. I also have the question,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: not so much if you look like Prince, but if
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: you do look like Prince, how tall are you? No,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I'd say I went to a Prince show in Raleigh
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: once and it was encore time. I think he did
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: second encore and we're there. And I'll just never forget
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: this for the life of me because I learned something
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: very interesting that night. So while he's doing it, there's
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: one woman. First of all, not only were an encore status,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: like I'm on the floor at this point. I can't
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: remember my seats are on the floor. We're on the floor.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: It's encore status. Now you can smell the weed, right?
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: The weed done been fired up. But some woman was
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: standing on her chair. She jamming out and buddy got
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: that yellow jacket on and he's in front of her
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: telling her to get down. She looking right through like
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: he ain't even there. Just keep going. And then when
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: he finally walked away, she was like. And I was like, yep.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: And it was an important lesson. Once the encore hits,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: security has lost all leverage. What you going to do,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: throw me out? Show's over, right? And I just remember
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: looking at that woman and I was like, huh, this
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: is something that can be applied to my larger life.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: But ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: here on The Right Time. We do this four days
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: a week. Ryan Brumley handled everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir.
• 58:53
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• 59:05
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