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  All right, what's up everyone, welcome into Inside the Hoosier
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  I have an extremely special guest with me here that it's the
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  first time being on my show with me.
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  And he's actually the first person I've really told here in
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  Indiana that I do this show. Devin Phillips, he, believe it
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  or not, was my world history teacher back in my freshman year
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  of high school, which to to date, both of us was right after
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  the Colts just lost a Super Bowl.
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  So it has been a minute since he and I have talked football, but
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  he and I are both excited that he's here.
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  And I appreciate you for coming home, man.
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  Thanks so much for having me, man.
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  I'm really excited to be here and I always enjoyed talking
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  football with you. I'm, I'm sorry that you just
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  dated us 'cause that just means I'm that much older than you
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  are. But I, I, it's super cool that
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  you invited me on and anytime, anytime I can be out there and,
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  and especially talk anything Hoosiers or you know, Hoosier
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  esque, I'm definitely down. So I appreciate the invite.
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  Yeah, absolutely. And I know because you so a
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  little bit of a background. So Devin is from here in
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  Indiana. He taught here in Indiana.
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  Now he is he has a job out in California with a beautiful
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  daughter, if I remember correctly.
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  Still a die hard Colts fan. Still a lot of ties here to
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  Indiana. Still a lot of friends and
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  family here in Indiana too. I know we wanted to give a shout
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  out to a buddy's company that he helps endorse this too that is
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  also here in Hoosier land. Yes, so my best friend from high
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  school, he was the best man in my wedding.
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  His name is Kyle Champ. He owns Portland Insurance.
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  I'm originally from Jay County, Indiana and Portland is our our
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  capital. It's where I go visit when I'm
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  back in Indiana or one of the three places that I spend some
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  time in. And just wanted to give a shout
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  out to to Portland Insurance. If you're looking for insurance,
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  I know a guy called Kyle Champ and tell him that Devin sent
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  you. Awesome, awesome.
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  Definitely check that out. So man, let's get into it
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  because we're here to talk one of the most fun times of the
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  year. We're here to talk the NFL and I
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  know we were talking about it before we got started.
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  The best part about the NFL, all the drama, all the stories and
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  then everything that unfolds as we're just two games into the
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  season. We've got season ending
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  injuries. We've got so many changes on
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  stuff. So with all that being said, I
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  said we just dive right into a man as far as far as so we'll
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  we'll dive in with kind of the first one we'll dive in with
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  last Thursday Night Football's game with the Lions going to the
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  Bills. Bills get their first win in
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  their brand new stadium. As it looks right now, I know
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  it's only two games in the season.
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  The Bills look like the the big contenders in the AFC, but they
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  usually do whatever Josh Allen gets a premier wide receiver
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  like he has a DJ more right now. What was your thoughts behind
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  this? Is this the Bills kind of taking
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  a step forward or do you think this is the Lions continuing to
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  take a step back as they've lost Ben Johnson, as they've lost
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  Aaron Glenn for the last couple of years?
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  Yeah, I think that I think the storyline here is a lot more the
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  Lions taking a step back. While I do think the Bills are
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  are the dudes on the block that everybody needs to be keeping
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  their eyes on to know what what's gonna be happening.
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  I think the Lions have taken a big step back.
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  And I do think it's scheme wise, right?
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  Like they were just out coaching people regularly.
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  And while I love their head coach, I mean, I love the grit
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  and the biting off kneecaps and all the stuff that he sent into
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  the football verse. His his, you know, his
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  coordinators were a big part of that.
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  And they had that same fight. They had that same grit and they
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  were very opportunistic on defense with Aaron Glenn.
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  I mean that, you know, that guy was a great NFL player.
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  He clearly knows defenses. He's now, maybe I'm not willing
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  to commit to this, but maybe translating that into as a head
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  coach, I mean, The Jets pulled off some things I was not
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  prepared for, but Aaron Glenn's a dude.
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  And then I think anybody who understands, you know,
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  coordinating on offense, Ben Johnson is the standard for that
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  right now. And you strip that away from any
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  team and they're going to regress.
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  The problem I see with the Lions is they haven't figured out how
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  to slow that regression and possibly even turn it around.
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  And I think this was another example of it.
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  So that's, I definitely think that's the storyline.
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  Yeah, I think, I think part of it's a culmination and a lot of
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  people have pointed it out. Whenever everything is going
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  right, as far as you know, everybody's clicking,
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  everybody's doing what they're supposed to do.
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  And Jared Goff is a heck of a quarterback.
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  But it seems like when he has to improvise, if the team starts to
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  struggle, if like Amin Ross St. Brown isn't getting open, if Sam
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  LaPorte isn't getting open, there's a struggle.
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  And then I'll be honest, aside from Aiden Hutchinson and aside
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  from like Jack Campbell as well as their safety, I'm trying to
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  remember his name. Oh, branch, Branch.
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  There's a whole lot of kind of no names on that defense.
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  And, and I feel like the defense, like the offense is
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  still kind of able to keep, keep the head afloat.
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  But that defense, like you mentioned, as far as a lot of
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  regression and, and part of that is due to a lot of injuries.
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  So I feel like they're definitely one of the more
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  injury Riddle teams. Even when Ben Johnson and Aaron
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  Glenn were both their injuries were a big issue and kind of
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  continue to stay that way. But I feel like the defense is
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  really what's harming them. On the flip side, though, we've
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  got the Bills like Joe Brady and Josh Allen, you know, that that
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  connection continues. They were lucky enough to keep
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  that chemistry. I do kind of worry a little bit
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  about the Bills defense though, as a result of that.
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  I mean, the Texans were able to put 31 up on them.
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  The Lions were able to put 31 up on them.
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  Now, credit to both the Lions and the Texans because, you
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  know, even in the last couple of years, and obviously the Texans
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  are over 2 to start the year, they're still a good football
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  team and to put 31 points up is still a pretty impressive feat.
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  Do you feel like that's the one thing the Bills might have to
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  worry about is their defense might be the Achilles heel for
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  them? Yeah, Tony the great set up,
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  brother. Absolutely.
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  There's no question with that. The the Bills defense is
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  definitely still a question mark.
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  Their offense is going to go out and score probably 32 plus every
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  week, but their defense giving up 31 points to a Texans team
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  that just turned around and only scored 6 this week, I think
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  really speaks a glaring issue that exists there.
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  And here's the thing about Jared Allen getting him in a shootout.
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  He's going to play his best football, right?
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  But he hasn't won a lot of those games.
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  He's been a superstar in it. He hasn't won a lot of games.
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  So you got to fix those problems.
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  And, and I do think that that is is how teams will beat the
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  Bills. They will just outshoot them on
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  a given weekend because the defense is is the is the
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  problem. Absolutely.
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  It is funny. I did see a meme, the NFL memes
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  posted of the clip from Full Metal Jacket where Gomer Pyle
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  was just kind of zoning out and said Josh Allen when he realizes
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  last year was the year that he had to try to win it all because
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  the Chiefs were regressing. And now it seems like the Chiefs
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  are back at the current moment. But we'll we'll get into that
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  here in a little bit. Nonetheless though, another team
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  that I thought was kind of interesting just because they're
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  quarterback gets a lot of hate. And even though I'm not a
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  Cowboys fan anymore, I. I can't remember.
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  A cow would die hard. I'm gonna say I I've I've left
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  said toxic relationship at the moment, at least sometimes.
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  You have to do that. You do I I'm very critical of
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  Philly still. Nonetheless they go into
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  Nashville. It was apparently like 150° on
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  the field there in Nashville Sunday.
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  It was super hot. The Eagles squeak out a win
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  against a Titans team. Now I know they've gotten
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  better. They have Robert Salas the
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  coach. They have Brian Dabal as the
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  offensive coordinator, albeit that's, you know, with what he
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  did with The Jets. That's not exactly a precedent.
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  But as a coordinator, Brian Dabal did good.
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  He's got a number one overall pick in Cam Ward.
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  He's got Cardinal Tate at wide receiver.
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  There's building blocks there, but we don't expect anything
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  crazy from Tennessee. Do you think this is one of
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  those? You look at the Eagles and
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  you're like, why are you playing down to an opponent like the
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  Titans when you still have guys like Hertz, You still have
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  Barkley, you still have Devante Smith, and albeit they're
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  starting to do with some injuries, their offensive line
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  is getting older. They still have Victoria Fangio
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  on the defense, though. But you're playing down to an
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  opponent like the Titans. Do you think this is something
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  you look at the Eagles and like they're they're still a
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  formidable team, but they're not the big, bad, scary team that we
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  probably once looked at the mat the last couple of years?
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  Yeah, they're definitely not the big bad scary.
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  But I, you know, I, I, I tend to think the storyline is here,
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  that the Eagles always find a way to play down or up to who
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  they play. Very rarely do they get blown
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  out or blow somebody out. You know, like now the, the year
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  they went on that run and won the Super Bowl, they were
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  blowing people out. But Saquon Barkley was out of
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  his mind in some of his plays during.
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  I mean, there were things happening that were, you know,
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  different than what had happened before.
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  So, you know, for me, the, the Eagles might not be the big bad,
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  but they're the guy. They're the they're still the
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  guy that when they enter the room, you get up and let them
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  sit down because they they've earned that respect and you
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  you're looking at them accordingly to me.
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  You know, first of all, I don't think Robert Saul is a good head
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  coach and I didn't think Brian Dabel was a good head coach.
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  And you know, he comes from a Lion tree line of coaching that
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  may be the best ever, but I still don't like it.
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  And so, you know, I don't give them the respect that maybe
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  they're due. So for me and and I'm a die hard
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  Colts fan, as you mentioned before.
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  So, you know, I want to keep the Titans with everything down as
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  we possibly can. So that's going to be my
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  narrative. And so to and so to me, like,
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  you know, the Eagles played down to them.
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  They allowed them to stick around.
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  And then when Jalen needed to turn it on at the end, he did.
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  I there's actually a clip of him talking to Justin, I think
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  Simmons, who came up to him to talk at the end of the game and
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  he said, like, you started this, I had to end that shit.
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  You know, like, I mean, that's who Jalen Hurts is, right?
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  Like, and the, the question kind of that you led with is like,
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  why? Why aren't they that every week?
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  And that, to me, tends to be a coaching problem.
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  Yeah, and I, I don't disagree and I think I do agree.
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  Like when you look at Robert Saleh and Brian Dewall both as
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  head coaches, it's kind of ironic.
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  They both get the New York jobs and they both are just
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  absolutely off. I feel like at this point with
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  the exception of having Eli Manning near New York is just
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  cursed as far as those two teams go.
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  If you if you want to include the Bills just because name wise
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  they're they're they're associated with them.
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  I I have fear that soft Gardner brought it to Indianapolis that
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  that's honest. That that that was going to be
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  my question when we get to that, believe me, because I think the
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  record is like one and seven since acquired name and I'm like
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  that's crazy for what they spent.
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  We'll move on to the next game though, one that and obviously
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  again, being having been a Cowboys fan, this team has ended
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  playoff dreams and any type of positive hopes for many years,
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  whether it's Aaron Rodgers or Jordan Love.
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  The Packers go to New York to face Geno Smith and The Jets
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  with Aaron Glenn and they just barely escape a win.
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  I mean, again, it it's two weeks into the season, there's some
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  injuries happening. There's a lot of rust and having
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  to get used to new system, new guys, you know, coming in, new
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  guys leaving. This is 1 though.
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  I feel like the Packers were one of those teams.
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  When you look at the NFC North, you could honestly make an
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  argument for any one of those teams being able to win the
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  division. And I feel like this is almost
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  another one of those instances. Just like Philly, the Packers
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  are playing down to their opponents.
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  But it's ironic because when they faced Minnesota, they were
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  up and it's kind of like they got cocky.
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  OK, we knocked Kyler out. Now Carson Wentz comes in.
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  He's kind of hit and miss. Now he's more of that journey in
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  the backup quarterback. But at one point he was a
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  perennial starter that was pretty damn good in all honesty,
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  even though his tenure with the Colts didn't end positively,
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  statistically, he's great. I mean, he 27 touchdowns and
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  seven picks with just the one year he was with them.
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  Do you think it's almost time for kind of a panic with the
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  Packers because they've paid Jordan Love top dollar and a ton
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  of money? The wide receiver room, you
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  know, on paper it's great. I mean, they've got Marcus
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  Golden, they've got Watson, they've got Reid, although Reid
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  ended up getting hurt. Like they've got the talent.
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  They can draft really well, but it just seems like now Lafleur
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  and that Packers team just can't make it all click together.
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  Well, I tend to think that they're not a first half team
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  and that probably is coaching. That probably is a little four
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  thing. But you know, they they seem to
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  get hot down the stretch when you want them to get hot.
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  And so to me, this isn't them playing down.
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  This is them figuring out their system and how they're going to
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  work through it. This is similar to what I think
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  the Colts are going through. The difference is the the
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  Packers are still finding a way because they've I think that
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  unit has been together and understands some processes a
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  little bit better. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  And on the other side, I mean, I know it's it's kind of
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  self-explanatory, but but The Jets, do you, do you think there
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  is an upside for The Jets? I mean, Gino, Gino kind of makes
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  his return it seems like because he's got to go on this NFL
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  journey. He's learned a lot.
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  It seems like he's probably more comfortable being in The Jets
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  now. They still have Garrett Wilson,
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  they're still positive pieces there.
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  And obviously they have a ton of draft capital going into the
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  next couple of years. So they could really build
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  themselves up to be a team that's formidable in the future.
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  But I I do have to ask because we, we have to joke about it.
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  Do you think they do the most Jets thing possible when just
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  enough they like knock themselves of not only being
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  able to get a potential top quarterback in next year's draft
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  and potentially hurt themselves out of getting a top weapon or a
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  top offensive or defensive piece to complement with him?
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  Because I feel like that'd be the most Jeff's thing to do.
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  If they want that quarterback, they got to give up those two
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  picks to go getting when they could have just lost and they
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  could have the best of both worlds.
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  Yeah, I do think this is, I do think this is a team that's
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  gonna be picking around 1516 this year.
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  I do think they're gonna be a 7 and 8:50 and, you know, 8 range.
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  But they also got the Colts pick and unless the Colts turn some
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  things around, they might be drafting first anyway.
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  So, you know, I think it's funny that you say this like I do
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  think there is possibility in this.
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  It's not something I'd spend any time thinking about, but I The
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  Jets always find a way. But if that curse is somehow
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  left and I do legitimately that I've spent time thinking about
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  the possibility that this has happened.
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  If that has happened, then probably what's going to happen
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  is they're going to end up being a dog for the next 5 or 10 years
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  as they bring some people in. But you know, that's a wait and
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  see game. I've never been a Geno guy, but
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  Geno has figured out over his career how to win games and
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  that's gonna come in handy this year.
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  Absolutely. And I, I think a lot of that's
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  due, I think a lot of that was his time in Seattle.
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  I mean, getting, getting an opportunity, obviously he went
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  to the Giants, he's been with The Jets.
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  I think he was with the Chargers even at one point, like he's
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  been around the league. But I think being in Seattle,
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  even though it was at the tail end of Russ's time and then him
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  kind of feeling as a starter, I think gave him just enough of a
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  positive and successful foundation to really build off
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  of. Now, obviously the Raiders time,
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  not as positive, but I mean, it's it's the Raiders and we'll
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  we'll get into them too here in a little bit.
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  The Raiders, the other one that was probably the biggest
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  surprise. And I hope you appreciate the
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  the straight face. So it's funny you said that.
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  I was like when I was looking at it, I was like, oh, it's right
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  there. I got to, I got to take the
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  chance. It's right there.
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  He would have. He would have taken that chance
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  again. Absolutely so.
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  And if for anybody who's watching and you're listening, I
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  have on here the Browns and the Buccaneers.
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  Watson gets his happy ending finish in Tampa Bay due to a
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  weird weathered storm. Baker Mayfield's possibility of
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  spoiling against his old team that that let him go get spoiled
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  in in a pretty major win for the Browns there.
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  There's so much we could talk about with the Browns.
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  I mean, we could probably make a whole hour episode with them as
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  far as the whole quarterback controversy, who should start,
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  who shouldn't, all of that. I really want to focus, though,
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  on Tampa Bay because I mean, this is a team.
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  Yes, they lost Mike Evans in free agency in San Francisco,
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  but you still have Chris Godwin, you have a Mecca Buca Baker is
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  still solid, the offensive line is good, and they finally paid
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  Vita Vea in order to get him and to keep him there.
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  And of course, they draft a Ruben Bane.
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  Who, if anybody, watched Miami last year, he was a solid
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  defensive player, But they start the year O and two, they got
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  beat pretty bad by Cincinnati and now they lose, you know,
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  back back-to-back against the Browns.
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  Do you think it's almost panic time for Tampa Bay?
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  Because I feel like Todd Bowles has been one of those coaches.
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  He's been on the hot seat for, I would say a couple of years now,
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  even though he's won the division and like, they've
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  really been the only relevant team in the NFC South for the
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  last couple of years. They're still like, yeah, no,
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  we, we might have to get rid of it.
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  Yeah, I as a, as a human being, I really like Todd Bowles as a
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  head coach. He's really terrible.
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  It is my opinion on that. Yeah, he did get in.
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  You know, he did win the division, but if I remember
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  correctly, he won it with a losing record.
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  Weren't they like 8:00 and 9:00? So like that's, you know, I'm,
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  I'm not calling my mom to tell her that I went 8:00 and 9:00,
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  you know, like that. So nothing to show shout about.
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  So yeah, I just, I, I don't, you know, I also am not a big Baker
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  guy. I, I love his commercials.
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  I love, you know, he's come forward a lot about his
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  Christianity. Big fan of of who he's become,
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  but he's not a guy who I'm gonna hang my hat on for a franchise.
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  And I know that that was what everybody was talking about when
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  he had his big season there. But you know, I learned a
• 19:13
  lesson. You spoke about my daughter
• 19:15
  earlier. My daughter's 14 years old now
• 19:18
  and she's been a, I've been a competitive soccer player since
• 19:22
  she was like 7 or 8 and that's a whole different world.
• 19:26
  Whole hour we could spend on that and what I've seen in that
• 19:29
  crazy world. And and again, just to date you
• 19:31
  and I, the fact that you just said she's 14, I'm like, isn't
• 19:33
  she only like 5 or 6? Yeah, dude, she's a she's 14.
• 19:36
  She's a freshman in high school. He's what you were when?
• 19:41
  Yeah, crazy. If you think it's crazy, trust
• 19:44
  me, it's insane. But what?
• 19:47
  You know, what are the things I, I learned from her and I didn't
• 19:50
  I, I, I'm, you know, I, I'm thankful that I've seen this and
• 19:53
  understood this because as a coach, I, I didn't understand
• 19:56
  this at all. She has to be socially
• 20:00
  comfortable to play her best soccer.
• 20:04
  So when she joins a new team. Like for the first two or three
• 20:08
  weeks, and I hope she never hears this, she is terrible out
• 20:11
  there. Like she doesn't even look like
• 20:13
  she's played the game of soccer, right.
• 20:15
  And then all of a sudden after two or three weeks, once she
• 20:18
  finds a friend, she gets comfortable, she becomes one of
• 20:22
  the best defenders on the field. And it it has been at this time,
• 20:26
  I've seen this happen with three separate teams.
• 20:30
  And and, you know, at first, as an athlete myself, I didn't care
• 20:36
  who I was playing with. You put me out there and these
• 20:38
  are the guys. You're OK, let's do it.
• 20:39
  We're let's figure out how to win this game.
• 20:41
  Like I didn't care who they were.
• 20:43
  I didn't care if they were nice me.
• 20:44
  Like none of that mattered to me.
• 20:46
  I think that's Baker Mayfield. I think everywhere he was, he
• 20:50
  wasn't socially comfortable. And he got there in in Tampa, he
• 20:56
  got comfortable. He's now put in his roots and
• 20:59
  now it's not working the same way it was before.
• 21:02
  And so I'm concerned he's going to go back to that uncomfortable
• 21:06
  level. And when that happens, things
• 21:09
  get real ugly. And I don't think 8:00 and
• 21:12
  9:00's going to win the division this year.
• 21:13
  So I I think this is going to be a rough season for the Bucks.
• 21:16
  Yeah, and and I, I do agree and and I, I will to push back a
• 21:21
  little in kind of defending. I think for him coming into
• 21:24
  Cleveland, he kind of needed to be that I would say like swagger
• 21:29
  bully, like he had to be the over cocky.
• 21:32
  Like I got the biggest one in the room and I'm just going to
• 21:34
  whip it out no matter what kind of kind of attitude.
• 21:37
  He's a trophy winner from Oklahoma, of course he felt that
• 21:40
  way, right? And number.
• 21:41
  One over pick. Yeah, 100%.
• 21:43
  And, and it's one of those like Cleveland needed that.
• 21:46
  Like if Cleveland ever needed like a personality, somebody to
• 21:49
  just basically come in and be, you know, how many first round
• 21:52
  picks have we seen that's like, you're going to Cleveland?
• 21:55
  I mean, I feel sorry for him, right?
• 21:57
  Like, I mean, you know, Johnny Manziel apparently didn't like
• 22:01
  go to practice or like, like watch film or whatever.
• 22:04
  But that talent was, I mean, the talent that's been wasted there
• 22:08
  that could have found a way in the NFL is just, it's travesty.
• 22:12
  Yeah. I mean, for years.
• 22:13
  I mean, you look at, you know, some great quarterbacks.
• 22:16
  You look at Brady Quinn, I mean, Brandon Whedon, he was like 30
• 22:20
  when he finally went in. So I mean that that one doesn't
• 22:22
  really count. But yeah, to your point, I mean,
• 22:24
  look at how long they had Miles Garrett.
• 22:26
  And I mean, he finally gets out and goes to, you know, a
• 22:28
  legitimate team now. And I mean, and he said and he's
• 22:31
  hurt and he still had success. It's like how how good do you
• 22:35
  have to be to still have success on the Browns type of guy?
• 22:38
  But nonetheless, I mean, Baker deals with that.
• 22:40
  And I felt like what really hurt him was he got hurt with the
• 22:43
  shoulder and he does what any true what I would say franchise
• 22:47
  quarterback wants to do and should do.
• 22:49
  If he tries to play through it, he plays extremely poorly and
• 22:54
  the fans are mad at him because he's playing poorly.
• 22:57
  It's like you can't have it both ways.
• 22:59
  You got to you got to respect the fact that he is playing hurt
• 23:02
  now, albeit he's not doing the best thing.
• 23:05
  Would you rather him, you know, sit on the bench and you just
• 23:08
  say always milk in the injury like he needs to be out there or
• 23:11
  do you want him out there? At least give him the effort.
• 23:13
  And then it doesn't help. He goes to the he goes to the
• 23:16
  Panthers, which at the time even more of a mess because they had
• 23:19
  him and Sam Darnold. They fumble.
• 23:21
  Both of them play. Your best ball then, right?
• 23:25
  And then, you know, he goes to the Rams.
• 23:26
  It seems like he has a little bit of revitalization just
• 23:29
  because he has an offensive head coach, which I think that would
• 23:32
  be probably the more interesting thing.
• 23:34
  If Todd Bowles gets fired, you know, who comes is at the head
• 23:38
  coach or if he leaves Tampa or if he gets traded from Tampa, if
• 23:41
  he goes to an offensive minded coach, do we see potentially a
• 23:45
  better version of Baker Mayfield?
• 23:48
  But to your point, I think I think part of the other issue,
• 23:50
  he comes to Tampa post Tom Brady and same thing, you know, won
• 23:54
  the division, has a losing record, but comes in.
• 23:57
  There's still a lot of talent there and and he's able to be
• 24:00
  successful. But like you said there, there
• 24:02
  might have been some complacency kind of been factored in.
• 24:05
  It's you know, he's maybe a little bit pissed because they
• 24:07
  didn't give him a big contract immediately.
• 24:09
  He's having to sit there and negotiate with it.
• 24:12
  But I, I think the biggest thing I would say even for him, like
• 24:15
  what what better way to just say, OK, I'm going to make you
• 24:20
  like eat your own words and I'm going to make you pay me because
• 24:23
  I'm going to go out here a ball out.
• 24:25
  Yeah, he needs to go back to the guy who entered that Cleveland
• 24:28
  room, the one you talked about that wants to whip it out and
• 24:30
  make sure, but he sees how big it is.
• 24:32
  He needs to go back to that swagger because if he did that
• 24:36
  and he was winning, I don't think there'd be any question
• 24:39
  what would be coming his way. Right, absolutely.
• 24:42
  But that that was what I thought.
• 24:44
  I just thought was area and I couldn't believe it when I saw
• 24:46
  the end of it. It's like, really?
• 24:47
  It's like they lost to the Browns.
• 24:50
  Yeah, but honestly, like, here's the catch to that.
• 24:52
  Like, I don't think people are actually given the Browns enough
• 24:55
  credit. Like I do think the Buccaneers
• 24:57
  are, you know, a middle of the road team this year, maybe maybe
• 25:03
  only six wins, but potentially up to 9, you know, somewhere in
• 25:06
  that range. They're oh, and two now, But I
• 25:09
  think the Browns are a lot better than people want to give
• 25:12
  them credit for because the narrative is always, well, it's
• 25:14
  the Browns. And you know, I'm not a, you
• 25:18
  know, I'm a Colts fan. So I couldn't stand Deshaun
• 25:20
  Watson for years. Then he goes and does this crazy
• 25:22
  stuff and it makes it worse. But if you guys watched him play
• 25:26
  on Sunday, he looked like the guy that I feared that we used
• 25:29
  to play. I don't even know how many years
• 25:31
  ago, 6, five years ago, whatever it was that JJ Watt used to be
• 25:36
  so upset that they were giving away the best years of his
• 25:38
  career. And he looked like that guy on
• 25:41
  Sunday. And so everybody who's
• 25:43
  questioning, like, why is Shadir not playing?
• 25:45
  Or, you know, it's 'cause Deshawn may still have something
• 25:48
  in the tank that nobody's been giving him credit for.
• 25:51
  And if that's the case, this Browns team can they're they're
• 25:54
  gonna, they're gonna be able to sneak up and bite some people.
• 25:57
  Yeah. And I do think the other
• 25:58
  advantage they have is, is Cleveland really young?
• 26:01
  I mean, aside from Desean, they're a truly young team.
• 26:04
  So there's a lot of, and it's kind of the same as it is every
• 26:07
  year. There's a lot of young building
• 26:09
  block foundations there. It's just making sure you at
• 26:11
  least have the quarterback right and the head coach because that
• 26:14
  seems to be the two biggest issues they always have.
• 26:17
  And for all the things that the the Browns have done so
• 26:19
  terribly, you know, people were really upset with them for
• 26:23
  trading Miles Garrett, but I actually thought they won in
• 26:27
  that trade. They got rid, they got rid of a
• 26:30
  stud that they got what, 2 first round draft picks for I think.
• 26:34
  And Jared Verse, who I believe Jared Verse is the up and coming
• 26:39
  premier defensive end. He's a guy who was a game
• 26:43
  wrecker as a rookie. Now you didn't put up the same
• 26:46
  numbers by any means, but if you had two first round picks to
• 26:49
  that, like I think they got way over market value and he's a
• 26:54
  scary, scary end on on an already pretty, you know, it was
• 26:58
  pretty decent defense even last year.
• 27:01
  And, and I feel like it's kind of the same situation as The
• 27:03
  Jets, like if they play, if they play everything right, you know,
• 27:06
  they could potentially get a quarterback for the future and
• 27:09
  they compare him with either a wide receiver, they comparing
• 27:11
  with an, you know, get an offensive line, shore that up
• 27:14
  or, or really any other type of weapon you'd want to do.
• 27:17
  You know, them and The Jets both, if they play their cards
• 27:19
  right, I think it'd be the same thing.
• 27:21
  They could be somebody that could really contend with and
• 27:24
  you know, you look at the schedule like damn, we have to
• 27:25
  deal with them for, you know, the next five years or so.
• 27:29
  We'll move on to the next one. They're they're in division
• 27:33
  rival and your Colts division rival of the Bengals at the
• 27:37
  Texans. Now this, this one, I feel like
• 27:39
  it it is a kind of a tale of two interesting stories because for
• 27:43
  the first time in really a long time, we've seen Zach Taylor and
• 27:48
  Joe Burrow come off of a hot start starting out two and O,
• 27:52
  whereas for what the last two or three years we've usually seen
• 27:55
  the opposite. You know, they start out O and
• 27:57
  two. It's like they're really
• 27:58
  sluggish. They can't get anything going
• 28:00
  and then they're having to play catch up as well as just hoping
• 28:03
  other dominoes fall into place to get them into the playoffs.
• 28:06
  So we have Cincinnati coming off to a hot start, but then Houston
• 28:10
  coming off of a really slow start, not only losing to
• 28:13
  Buffalo and what was a close game, but then kind of getting
• 28:16
  embarrassed by Cincinnati at home against them.
• 28:21
  So I guess we'll we'll start with the Texans first because
• 28:24
  obviously they're your in division rival.
• 28:26
  Do you feel like this is one of those this is just kind of an
• 28:28
  early test and you feel like CJ Stroud is going to make that
• 28:32
  change around post the the AFC championship game or not AFC
• 28:37
  divisional game against the Patriots.
• 28:39
  Do you feel like he makes that turn around or do you feel like
• 28:41
  this is one of those? It may be the same thing as like
• 28:44
  Tampa Bay. Most everybody comes back.
• 28:47
  They've added a little bit of pieces, but maybe they've gotten
• 28:50
  complacent and everybody's already figured out the Texans
• 28:54
  of old and now they have to try to replan for 2026.
• 28:59
  I think that one's tough and and I don't know that I have enough
• 29:02
  data to fully answer that question right now.
• 29:05
  I saw a graphic earlier today that CJ Stroud's statistics
• 29:10
  starting off this O and two star are worse than his rookie year
• 29:15
  when they started off O and two. So I tend to think that they're
• 29:18
  on the decline, but I'm afraid that that might be a bias and a
• 29:21
  hope more than it is what's really happening.
• 29:24
  Right. So, you know, I I want to see
• 29:26
  more data on that one. But I, you know, I, I do think
• 29:30
  in this game, the real story is the Bengals are also those
• 29:33
  dudes. And I do, you know, I, I think
• 29:35
  we, you know, we'll get to that. But I, I think that was part of
• 29:38
  what the Texans ran into. And so I don't think, I don't
• 29:43
  think that the Texans were prepared for that.
• 29:45
  I think that what they saw, you know, before when I think the
• 29:50
  Bucks and Bengals played week one, right, Isn't that I think
• 29:54
  they just assumed that was more the bucks than it was the
• 29:57
  Bengals. And I think that they I think
• 29:59
  that snuck up and bit the Texans.
• 30:01
  I don't think they were prepared with the right game plan because
• 30:04
  the Bengals defense is much, much improved from what it has
• 30:08
  been. And, you know, I, I think CJ
• 30:13
  Stroud was the I, I still think he's the premier quarterback
• 30:17
  from that class. I wanted it to be AR Clearly the
• 30:21
  Panthers thought it was Bryce Young and he's kind of showing
• 30:23
  that maybe they were right this season.
• 30:26
  But I still think CJ Stroud was the best quarterback in that
• 30:29
  class. What he did at Ohio State
• 30:31
  against Georgia in that playoff game alone told me he was that
• 30:34
  dog. But I think they went out and
• 30:37
  they got, you know, I really, they got David Montgomery to
• 30:40
  solve their running problems. I love David Montgomery.
• 30:42
  I mean, you want a guy who brings culture and who is just
• 30:46
  an all out dog running the ball. David Montgomery is the first
• 30:49
  guy that comes to mind. But I saw a clip of him about, I
• 30:54
  want to I want to say it was about a week before the season
• 30:56
  started and he talked about how he was still getting accustomed
• 31:01
  to the culture and how he there was, he expressed missing
• 31:05
  Detroit. And that's when I was like, oh,
• 31:09
  maybe this isn't what I thought it was going to be.
• 31:12
  And it seems like that's part of the problem.
• 31:15
  And that defense really hasn't shown out to be who I think I
• 31:20
  What's the name of the coach of the Texans of.
• 31:23
  Oh, Damico Ryan's. Yes, Damico Ryan's an ex Texan
• 31:26
  who was a dog himself, brought that culture.
• 31:30
  You know, it's one thing to teach culture and get some
• 31:33
  instant success. It's another thing to teach
• 31:37
  culture and then game plan and have that full on all season,
• 31:42
  year after year success. And I think he was able to bring
• 31:46
  the culture. I'm not sure he's able to bring
• 31:48
  that every year success. And I think that's what we're
• 31:51
  starting to see. I, you know, again, I'm a Colts
• 31:54
  fan, so this might be my bias getting in the way, but that's
• 31:57
  that's where I see the Texans and what's going on.
• 31:59
  And I'm sure we'll get to it at some point.
• 32:01
  But, you know, I'm happy the the the Texans are coming to Indy
• 32:05
  this week right now. Oh, for sure.
• 32:06
  And we will, we'll, we'll definitely get to that as we do
• 32:09
  we, we'll do a week, week 3 preview.
• 32:11
  I do have to kind of ask your thoughts on it because you, you
• 32:15
  know, because they're an indivision, you know, you'll,
• 32:16
  you'll see them a lot more. I feel like CJ is the de facto
• 32:20
  leader for the Texans, but realistically, I feel like he's
• 32:23
  only in that position because he's a quarterback.
• 32:26
  Like when you look at the team, you know they've got Derek
• 32:28
  Stingley, like he's a dog, but he's, it seems like he's kind of
• 32:32
  more quiet, more reserved. He's not really out there doing
• 32:34
  much. Same with Will Anderson.
• 32:37
  Same with Daniel Hunter, you know, same, you know, same with
• 32:41
  even David Montgomery. You know, this is a guy that he
• 32:43
  was, he was with the Bears, he's with the Lions and it's like he
• 32:47
  is the epitome of ground and pound, old school Smash Mouth
• 32:51
  football running. Back.
• 32:52
  He's one of my favorite football players to watch because of
• 32:54
  that. Absolutely, and I mean you and
• 32:57
  and it I think it's kind of hard for him not to miss it because
• 33:00
  you know, you you had kind of the perfect balance in Detroit
• 33:03
  of like it's third and short. Oh yeah, I gave it to Dave
• 33:06
  Montgomery. He's absolutely pounding through
• 33:08
  the offensive line to get you that first down.
• 33:10
  But if you want a speedster, you give it to Gibbs.
• 33:12
  I feel like for the Texans, they they he doesn't have that
• 33:16
  complimentary person to him. So he has to be the every down
• 33:19
  bell Cal, which he he probably could, but he's not going to put
• 33:24
  up put up the big gaudy numbers that you want him to get.
• 33:27
  And then like I said, I feel like they don't have that
• 33:29
  leader, that voice to kind of help establish that culture to
• 33:33
  help establish like, Hey, this, this is who we are.
• 33:36
  This is the this is the city we fight for.
• 33:38
  Now. I've heard CJ do that in
• 33:39
  interviews and I know he's tried to embrace Houston a lot, but I
• 33:43
  think a lot of it has been Houston fans are are frustrated
• 33:47
  with him because he had such a phenomenal rookie season.
• 33:50
  And then yeah, he's just been up and down the entire time.
• 33:53
  And it feels like whenever he gets in the big moments, you
• 33:56
  know, such as the divisional round, he he did 4 turnovers
• 33:59
  against the Patriots and kind of ultimately ended that.
• 34:01
  It's like I, I think if he kept it closer, if he played a little
• 34:05
  cleaner and they still lost, they'll still put a lot of love
• 34:08
  and support behind him. Now it's like, yeah, we don't
• 34:11
  know if we want the Texans to commit to you for that fifth
• 34:14
  year and you sign a long term deal.
• 34:16
  And obviously it's even the franchise is even kind of yeah,
• 34:19
  do we do we move forward with it?
• 34:21
  We'll see what you look like at the end of the year.
• 34:25
  So are you, I just want to clarify the question.
• 34:27
  Are you asking me if I think CJ is the guy?
• 34:30
  I would say, is there, is there a guy on the Texans, you would
• 34:34
  think that is like their true leader.
• 34:36
  Yeah, so I, you know, I think CJ gets a lot of Flack because he's
• 34:39
  more of that quiet leader type, right?
• 34:41
  He's not the in your face rah rah guy.
• 34:43
  But let me tell you about a guy who who was that guy who also
• 34:47
  had to learn how to win in the playoffs.
• 34:49
  And that guy's name was Peyton Manning.
• 34:50
  And don't get me wrong, I don't think CJ Strat and Peyton
• 34:52
  Manning are on the same level, but I do think that CJ Stroud
• 34:56
  has the same control and leadership of his offense that
• 35:01
  Peyton did in those early years. Not near what he, you know, was
• 35:04
  able to mastermind towards the end.
• 35:07
  But you know, CJ to me is the guy.
• 35:11
  He is that leader. I think his biggest problem is
• 35:15
  he didn't win at Ohio State. He's not sure how to win now.
• 35:19
  And, and, you know, there's a lot to be said for guys who know
• 35:24
  how to win. You know, Tom Brady is one of
• 35:26
  those guys. And we can say, oh, yeah, he won
• 35:28
  all these things with the the Patriots.
• 35:30
  What a lot of people don't know about Tom Brady.
• 35:32
  And I want to be very clear, I'm not a Tom Brady fan.
• 35:34
  In fact, I hate, I hate that I'm even talking about this right
• 35:37
  now. And I'm thinking about it.
• 35:39
  But Tom Brady won a national championship at Michigan as the
• 35:43
  second quarterback who still, I still don't understand his role
• 35:48
  in the team, But it was be compared to a pitcher coming in
• 35:52
  to close out a game. They they, they played in
• 35:56
  something crazy like 5 or 6. And somebody fact checked me.
• 35:59
  I might be wrong here, but it's a good amount of number of games
• 36:02
  where they were down in the fourth quarter and sent Tom
• 36:05
  Brady in and he led them back to win those games.
• 36:09
  And then they go to a national championship, same thing
• 36:11
  happens. That guy's a sixth round pick
• 36:14
  and he goes on to win. You know, I don't even want to
• 36:16
  say how many trophies that he won because we lost most of them
• 36:20
  to him in my opinion, but he was a winner 1st.
• 36:25
  And that's what CJ lacks and that's what Peyton lacked.
• 36:28
  I mean, how many times did Peyton throw ridiculous, gut
• 36:31
  wrenching interceptions in his first couple years in the
• 36:35
  playoffs? But he was as good as you could
• 36:37
  have ever, you know, asked any quarterback to be in the regular
• 36:42
  season. And I think that's a little bit
• 36:44
  of what CJ is experiencing. He doesn't know how to win.
• 36:48
  I mean, that's definitely, that's definitely what Allen's
• 36:52
  problem is out with the Bills. He's never, I mean, he went to
• 36:56
  Wyoming. They didn't win anything at
• 36:58
  Wyoming. You don't win anything at
• 36:59
  Wyoming. And you come into the NFL, the
• 37:01
  lesson of winning is a lot harder.
• 37:04
  You know, the only guy I've seen come into the league who wasn't
• 37:07
  a winner first and clearly was a winner is Patrick Mahomes.
• 37:11
  Like, I didn't do anything at Texas Tech, but man, he came in
• 37:14
  and, you know, after he was given the reins, he put on a
• 37:17
  show. But there aren't a lot of guys
• 37:20
  like that. And winning is hard.
• 37:22
  It's hard at the high school level in football.
• 37:24
  I mean, it's hard at the middle school level in football.
• 37:27
  You're talking about Pro Football.
• 37:28
  And if you don't know how to win and you don't know what that
• 37:30
  grit takes like, you can't always be the guy because of
• 37:33
  that. And I think that's what CJ runs
• 37:35
  into. I think he's just an ebb and
• 37:37
  flow guy. He was that at Ohio State.
• 37:39
  You know some some games he's gonna come out and and shock you
• 37:42
  with how his talent and other games he's gonna come out and
• 37:45
  shock you with his inability to do anything.
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  Yeah, I, I think to to to, to piggyback off of what you said,
• 37:52
  as far as guys kind of having that that dog in them.
• 37:54
  You know, Tom Brady had to make do with, with a lot less as far
• 37:58
  as, you know, being being able to make it work and being able
• 38:00
  to make it with Peyton had to do a lot of the same things.
• 38:03
  So you had to kind of grow into that.
• 38:05
  You know, CJ, he's at Ohio State during some of the peak years.
• 38:10
  You know you've got Garrett Wilson, Chris Alave, you know
• 38:13
  you've got all the Mecca Buca you've got.
• 38:14
  All get it done. And top receivers and yeah, you
• 38:17
  couldn't get it done. I will say because I'm, I'm the
• 38:21
  same way. I am not a Tom Brady fan by any
• 38:23
  stretch of the imagination. I've never met somebody cry more
• 38:26
  in my life as a grown man, believe it or not.
• 38:28
  I have seen a few interviews where they ask him like, how did
• 38:31
  you prepare? Like, how did you style your
• 38:32
  game? Believe it or not, he was like,
• 38:33
  I would always look at what Peyton would do, watch his film
• 38:37
  because he appreciated how Peyton approached and played the
• 38:41
  game. So I'm not the if there is a
• 38:43
  positive from him, he did at least enjoy the sheriff and what
• 38:46
  the sheriff did and continues to do so.
• 38:49
  Oh well. I I mean, you know, I think Tom
• 38:52
  Brady was it was not below him to take anything he could from
• 38:56
  anybody to win. And that that comes back to that
• 38:58
  point I was making. He was a winner, right.
• 39:01
  Like he was not the best quarterback that he have.
• 39:03
  Some seasons he was great, yes. Oh yeah.
• 39:05
  But he was not the best quarterback in the league.
• 39:07
  And to your point, some of the teams he won with were very
• 39:11
  below standard of winning teams. And he was a winner.
• 39:16
  And and I think in in the heart of it, I think Bill Belichick
• 39:19
  was a winner. And I think that made a
• 39:21
  beautiful marriage. And I think Bill Belichick's
• 39:23
  figuring out in college, too, you know, like, I think he's
• 39:26
  because he stunned some people. I don't think anybody was ready
• 39:28
  for that Clemson game, even after what he'd done.
• 39:30
  Yeah, I. I was kind of surprised at how
• 39:32
  that ended, to be honest with you.
• 39:35
  But we'll move on to the next game.
• 39:38
  There we go. This one it probably this one I
• 39:41
  think I'm the most surprised about more than anything.
• 39:44
  The Raiders are two and O and the Chargers are O and two.
• 39:48
  This is the first time as a head coach for Harbaugh, collegiately
• 39:52
  or professionally, he is open to to start a season.
• 39:58
  Did you picture the Raiders doing this last year?
• 40:00
  And this is even without Fernando Mendoza starting.
• 40:03
  This is with Kirk Cousins at the helm running the Raiders.
• 40:07
  Well, you can mark my words here, and this is going to upset
• 40:10
  a lot of Hoosier fans, but Mendoza is is not the guy.
• 40:14
  I don't believe him to be the guy as a as a professional
• 40:17
  quarterback. He clearly was the guy for the
• 40:19
  Hoosiers, but I don't think he's going to be the guy anyway.
• 40:22
  So but yes, all of this has surprised me.
• 40:25
  Like like this is a twilight zone.
• 40:28
  First of all, like living out here.
• 40:30
  I live in San Diego, CA where the Chargers used to be.
• 40:34
  There's the people here who absolutely hate the Chargers
• 40:37
  because they left. And then there's the people who
• 40:39
  are who are die hard Chargers and still talk about them all
• 40:42
  the time. Right, right.
• 40:43
  And I wanted, I wanted Jim Harbaugh so bad to be the Colts.
• 40:47
  I mean, Jim Harbaugh is the reason I'm a Colts fan.
• 40:49
  The 95 AFC championship game, that 95 AF AFC team captain
• 40:55
  comeback Jim Harbaugh. I mean, I had his jersey was the
• 40:57
  first football jersey I ever owned.
• 41:00
  That was my guy. And so I'm a big Jim Harbaugh
• 41:03
  fan. So for that, I've.
• 41:05
  I even rooted for Michigan when he was there a little bit.
• 41:07
  And that was one of the hardest things I've ever done in my
• 41:09
  life. Yeah, but you know, like, not
• 41:13
  against any of my teams, but when you when if they was on.
• 41:15
  OK, I'll root for Jim. So I I do think the bigger shock
• 41:21
  here is that the Chargers are owing to and I think it's
• 41:24
  because they played the Raiders in the second week.
• 41:27
  So the Raiders be in two and O like I did not see that coming.
• 41:31
  I did think Kirk Cousins still had some seasons left in him.
• 41:34
  I thought it was ridiculous that people kind of, you know, wrote
• 41:38
  him off the way he did. But no, like, I don't think
• 41:43
  that, you know, the Raiders are also in that Browns and Jets
• 41:46
  category. So I don't know what's happened.
• 41:50
  Maybe it is Mendoza. Maybe he brought whatever
• 41:53
  Indiana was cooking and took it out there to Las Vegas.
• 41:57
  I but the Chargers B&O and two is just crazy to me right now.
• 42:01
  I mean, clearly Mike McDonald is not the mad scientist that we
• 42:07
  thought he was. Because if you can't if you
• 42:09
  can't beat the Raiders in this game, like it's going to be a
• 42:12
  long season. And Justin Herbert, also a guy
• 42:16
  who never figured out how to win, but is the guy right?
• 42:19
  Like, I mean, he's had some really insane seasons, but he
• 42:24
  doesn't know how to win. And I think that, you know, that
• 42:26
  winning is that winning isn't, is a category or a you know,
• 42:30
  like in Madden, they got all those attributes, speed and
• 42:33
  awareness. Winning should be one of those,
• 42:36
  you know, and and some people's is down at 1:00 and 2:00 and
• 42:39
  other people are the 99 and, and you know who those guys are?
• 42:43
  'Cause you'll 'cause you'll see it every every single week on
• 42:46
  the field. And they may still lose some
• 42:48
  here and there, but for the most part, you'll, you'll see the
• 42:50
  fight, you'll see the, you'll see the comeback start to
• 42:52
  happen. This is one that I was kind of
• 42:55
  surprised on and, and I don't disagree when I watched Mendoza
• 42:58
  last year all throughout college and obviously throughout the,
• 43:01
  that whole entire season, throughout the play offs and
• 43:03
  whatnot, I was surprised. It does kind of make me wonder
• 43:07
  though, is this kind of like a, I'm not going to say a reverse
• 43:11
  Nick Saban because Nick Saban, God, he had how many first round
• 43:15
  picks? Like how many five star
• 43:17
  prospects just absolutely stack these teams.
• 43:20
  And it's like a quarterback would come out of Alabama and
• 43:22
  it's like, oh, look at how he played in college.
• 43:24
  Yeah, he's thrown up to like Julio Jones and Amari Cooper.
• 43:27
  Like you have to suck to to not be good with them as your wide
• 43:31
  receivers. Like, I wonder if Mendoza is a
• 43:34
  kind of a product of Kurt Signetti just being a not only a
• 43:38
  great coach as far as getting guys, being able to fit them
• 43:41
  into a system and a piece that actually works.
• 43:44
  And will he be able to translate that into the NFLI?
• 43:48
  Do think there is kind of a secret weapon that he has
• 43:51
  because we just talked about him with Brady being a partial owner
• 43:55
  of the Raiders. You know, how much of that
• 43:58
  mentorship goes into potentially teaching him?
• 44:01
  And same with Kirk Cousins, because like you said, even for
• 44:04
  all his mistakes that he had at Washington, for all the mistakes
• 44:06
  he had at Minnesota, like he was a solid quarterback for, you
• 44:10
  know, 1012 years. Now, obviously the last couple
• 44:12
  of years in Atlanta, yeah, not so much.
• 44:15
  But I would also say that's not necessarily Kirk's fault.
• 44:17
  Like they, they paid him a ton of money.
• 44:19
  He's getting his bag. I don't blame him at all because
• 44:22
  I would be doing the same thing if I was in his position.
• 44:24
  They were like, you know what we're going to do?
• 44:25
  We're going to draft a kid that's like 26 years old already
• 44:29
  and we're going to draft him first round instead of maybe get
• 44:32
  you some more help. And I'm like, that's not exactly
• 44:35
  the smart move I would do if I was AGM of the Falcons.
• 44:38
  But yeah, I do agree. I think the Chargers being owed
• 44:41
  to with Herbert now their wide receiver room to me is still a
• 44:44
  bit of a question. I mean, I don't I don't feel the
• 44:49
  crap. What is his name?
• 44:51
  The wide receiver number 11 that like drops balls just constantly
• 44:56
  Johnston. Yeah.
• 44:58
  Johnston, Quentin Johnston, like he he's been really kind of a
• 45:02
  hit or miss. I mean, Ladd Mcconkey is solid.
• 45:05
  I watched him a lot at Georgia, like he's great, but he can't do
• 45:08
  it by himself. They get into Joku, but he gets
• 45:11
  hurt. The offensive line has injuries
• 45:13
  and then I feel like the defense is just old, like that is just
• 45:15
  an old defense that they're still having a rally from the
• 45:19
  previous head coaches blunders and whatnot.
• 45:21
  So not not super surprised on this, but we'll we'll move on to
• 45:26
  at least the last recap for week 3.
• 45:28
  Your Colts unfortunately coming up a little bit short against
• 45:32
  the Chiefs, but they did look a lot better than what they did
• 45:37
  against the Ravens. It definitely looked like they,
• 45:40
  you know, were clicking a little bit more on offense.
• 45:42
  But I do have to ask, because you are the Colts fan and
• 45:45
  because you you watch them pretty in depth, do you feel
• 45:48
  like this is the same recipe they had last year?
• 45:51
  Feed Jonathan Taylor because he's phenomenal back.
• 45:54
  You have an above off, above average offensive line.
• 45:57
  That's good. You've paid a lot of money into
• 46:00
  feed him the ball and just hope Daniel Jones doesn't have to be
• 46:03
  a quarterback too much. And I feel like once the kind of
• 46:08
  like what the Ravens did, they stopped Jonathan Taylor from
• 46:10
  running, Daniel Jones had to be, you know, a little bit more of
• 46:13
  an improviser and it caused them to kind of fumble.
• 46:16
  To me, I feel like it's the same recipe.
• 46:18
  They're just trying to do it again with slightly different
• 46:21
  pieces. Well, yeah, I, I, I, I don't
• 46:24
  question. It's the same recipe.
• 46:28
  But you know, as a Jonathan Taylor guy, I think it's the
• 46:32
  right recipe. The problem that I think, the
• 46:34
  problem that I think we've run into is our defense is not at
• 46:39
  all what was expected. And I think, you know, I saw a
• 46:43
  statistic today or yesterday that said we last year, we were
• 46:49
  the bottom four of the league. We missed 125 tackles.
• 46:54
  This year in the course of two games, we've already missed 22
• 46:57
  tackles. Wow, that's a staggering number.
• 47:00
  That's I think I ran the numbers and it was 182 missed tackles
• 47:04
  that were projected out right now.
• 47:06
  Like if that stayed consistent the whole way, Right, Right.
• 47:09
  So you can't win games if you can't tackle.
• 47:12
  Like that's, you know, honestly, what I saw from the Colts Chiefs
• 47:16
  game is, you know, I was really worried about Daniel Jones
• 47:20
  coming back. And yeah, he's not moving quick,
• 47:22
  But in Game 1, he was accurate. I mean, he was putting balls on
• 47:26
  guys, but he was not up to game speed.
• 47:29
  And I criticized the Colts for a very long time in not giving him
• 47:34
  any preseason snaps. You can't throw a guy out there
• 47:37
  who has is coming off an injury and doesn't know what the speed
• 47:41
  of that game is gonna feel like until he gets in it and expect
• 47:44
  him to perform. Like, there was no way in my
• 47:46
  mind we were even gonna compete with the Ravens.
• 47:49
  To be honest, it was worse than I thought it was gonna be, but I
• 47:52
  did think it was gonna be bad. Yeah.
• 47:54
  And then this week, coming in against the Chiefs, you know, I
• 47:58
  picked the, I picked the Colts to lose to the Chiefs.
• 48:01
  I called 3428, but I said what I thought was going to happen is
• 48:05
  that wasn't going to be a very close game.
• 48:08
  And instead it was going to be the Colts scored late and it
• 48:11
  looked good in the box score kind of thing, right?
• 48:13
  Yeah, I was wrong in that. I got the score pretty close,
• 48:16
  but I was wrong about the way the game went down.
• 48:18
  Last night was a prize fight. I mean, I saw the Colts
• 48:23
  throwback punches that I haven't seen them throwback since about
• 48:27
  week 9 last week last year. So the offense looks like it's
• 48:33
  ready to roll a lot faster than I thought it was going to be.
• 48:38
  Our defense though, we don't have linebackers who are
• 48:40
  tackling. In week one, our two linebackers
• 48:43
  combined for 8 tackles and they were all Davis Gaithier tackles,
• 48:49
  so Jalen Carlisle's didn't even make a tackle and CJ Allen's
• 48:53
  standing on the sideline. So then we come into this week,
• 48:56
  it's not the same, but it's pretty much more of the same in
• 48:59
  our inability to get around the field and tackle.
• 49:02
  And we also don't have any defensive ends, right?
• 49:05
  Like we don't have any pressure being applied to the
• 49:07
  quarterback. So if you take the the mad
• 49:10
  scientist Lou Amaniello and all his great plays and his great
• 49:15
  thinking, he's got the DBS, but we're lacking the linebackers
• 49:19
  who need to be making multiple digit tackles, like I'm talking
• 49:23
  about double digit tackles from both of them in order for his
• 49:27
  defense to work. And we have to have defensive
• 49:29
  ends applying pressure. If we have those things, then
• 49:33
  our DBS are going to be looking much better because those throws
• 49:36
  aren't going to be with all the time in the world.
• 49:39
  And that's what I, that's what I'm struggling with is we've now
• 49:42
  put a product out there that is 1/3 complete.
• 49:45
  Yeah. And I do think they were relying
• 49:47
  on CJ Allen to be a green dot guy and a guy who was out there
• 49:50
  in day one. But he gets a soft tissue
• 49:52
  injury. And if you've ever had a
• 49:53
  hamstring until you're ready to run full speed, it is both a
• 49:57
  physical and a mental thing. I once I once popped my
• 50:01
  hamstring so bad it took me almost two months to be able to
• 50:06
  even trust myself to get up to anywhere near my top speed.
• 50:10
  And so I can't imagine being a professional athlete being
• 50:13
  expected to be up there. So, you know, that's where I
• 50:17
  think the Colts have a problem. I, you know, they, they were,
• 50:21
  they were dogs though. They, they on defense, they gave
• 50:23
  up over 500 yards, but they were a bin, break bin, not bin, but
• 50:27
  not break defense like the old really great Colts teams were.
• 50:31
  We were all offense, but we can hold you to three points on your
• 50:34
  drive. That's what they look like.
• 50:36
  And I'm OK with that model. I'm OK giving up 500 yards.
• 50:40
  But our offense has to be that good.
• 50:43
  And we got to be able to figure out how to close them down.
• 50:45
  You know, if if we'd have told me that we were going to give up
• 50:48
  500 plus yards to the Chiefs and we were going to hold them to 27
• 50:52
  points in the first in the in the full game, like the four
• 50:55
  quarters, I'd have taken that any day of the week.
• 50:59
  Yeah, I will. I will be honest when I 'cause I
• 51:01
  didn't watch the entirety of the game, but I did catch the the
• 51:04
  last little bit as they finished regulation, then they go in
• 51:07
  overtime. I thought for sure they were
• 51:10
  going to give that, that, that last, you know, deep shot from
• 51:13
  Jones to, oh, what's his name, Treadwell Treadwell.
• 51:18
  I thought for sure they were going to call that a fumble and
• 51:20
  go to the Chiefs too. I was like, I'm waiting for old
• 51:24
  Tay Tay to just call down and be like, hey, we, you know, give my
• 51:27
  husband the give my husband the way I was.
• 51:30
  I was waiting for it. Well, I was so I'm on a I'm on a
• 51:33
  regular, I'm a regular panelist on a podcast called the the sick
• 51:37
  podcast anvil show, which is all about Colts.
• 51:40
  Check me out at Devin Colts, dude on all my stuff.
• 51:44
  But we just had this discussion and and the guys on that show
• 51:48
  are really upset with the way Sean Sean, I can't even talk.
• 51:51
  Shane Steiken called this game the the you know that he didn't
• 51:55
  go for the win at the end. They were both there by the way,
• 51:57
  they were inside the stadium. I think the emotions there get
• 52:00
  you. I don't think you can think
• 52:02
  clearly. I actually thought he played it
• 52:03
  right. You know, I hate giving the ball
• 52:05
  to Patrick Mahomes, but you know, you're 4th and eight.
• 52:10
  You know what? What he did was he sent in a
• 52:12
  play. If they got the look, go for the
• 52:14
  win. If they don't take the five
• 52:16
  yards, kick it to tie it. See what your defense can do and
• 52:20
  honestly like they put them in the third and long like they did
• 52:24
  everything they needed to do. Well, it's one of those because
• 52:28
  I always hear that whenever I see teams when they, when they
• 52:31
  do something risky or tricky on like fork down.
• 52:33
  You know, even as an LSU fan and as someone who attends LSU, like
• 52:37
  the whole miss thing, it was like, all right, go for it.
• 52:40
  And they screw it up. It's like it's a it's a 5050
• 52:42
  shot because if you get it, you're an absolute genius.
• 52:45
  Like you went for it, you trusted your guys, you did it.
• 52:48
  But if you don't, Oh my God, this guy's an idiot.
• 52:50
  What are you doing? Like it, It's a 5050 shot.
• 52:53
  So, I mean, I wasn't mad at it. Like you said, your if your
• 52:56
  defense can play well enough and you never know if you can get
• 52:58
  that one more stop to at least say that you did it, then yeah,
• 53:02
  you you walk away with a tie and then it it's better than a loss,
• 53:06
  but it is what it is. But we'll move on though to to
• 53:09
  the preview of of some week four games.
• 53:11
  We won't do all of them, but we'll do we'll do some of the
• 53:13
  bigger ones. This one, the Falcons at the
• 53:15
  Packers. I picked this one because
• 53:17
  Falcons finally have a starting quarterback back again.
• 53:19
  They have Michael Pinnix coming back as a starter.
• 53:22
  Now, for how long, we don't know that that that is TBD, but we
• 53:26
  know 2 is probably not going to be there, at least mentally and
• 53:30
  consciously. He may or may not be there.
• 53:32
  But nonetheless, you have the Packers going, you know, facing
• 53:36
  the Falcons, the Falcons looking for their first win real quick.
• 53:39
  Who do you think ultimately comes out with a win in this
• 53:42
  game? Do you think Phoenix can get the
• 53:43
  Falcons in the ship right under Kevin Stefanski or you think the
• 53:47
  Packers kind of cruise to to 2:00 and 1:00?
• 53:51
  Oh, no, I definitely think the Packers are gonna I, I actually
• 53:54
  don't think this game's gonna be close.
• 53:55
  I don't trust Pinnix as an NFL quarterback.
• 53:57
  I thought it was a ridiculous draft pick when they made it.
• 54:01
  So no, I think the Packers, like I said before, they're they're
• 54:04
  they always seem to be a little bit slow and not not really have
• 54:08
  things figured out, but but catch fire.
• 54:10
  I think this is a, you know, it's a potential gotcha game
• 54:13
  where the Packers think that they've got it.
• 54:15
  But no I I think Green Bay. I'd honestly pick Green Bay by
• 54:20
  13 plus in this game. OK, OK, I could, I could see it.
• 54:24
  I'm not going to lie, this one, another kind of interesting one
• 54:27
  because again, is it, is it a trap game for Buffalo?
• 54:30
  Because they're like, yeah, you know, the Chargers lost to the
• 54:33
  Cardinals of all teams that I'll be honest, I thought the
• 54:35
  Cardinals were going to be way worse than what they were.
• 54:38
  They lose to them, then they lose to the Raiders.
• 54:41
  So do you think the Bills get cocky or do you think the
• 54:42
  Chargers kind of, you know, right, the ship and like, hey,
• 54:45
  we'll get a big win and maybe this propels us to have a
• 54:48
  somewhat better season than what it's looking like currently at
• 54:51
  the moment. Were you let me ask you this
• 54:53
  question before I answer it. Were you able to see the the
• 54:56
  Bills Lions game, that first home game for the Bills?
• 54:58
  Did you see any of it? I saw part of it, but I didn't
• 55:01
  see all of it. OK, so it was, you know, I, I
• 55:04
  honestly, it was during my daughter's soccer practice.
• 55:06
  I went to the location, watched it while I was there.
• 55:08
  That place is electric and it's not going to be electric for
• 55:13
  just the first game. It's going to be electric all
• 55:15
  season to a degree where we already talked about how going
• 55:19
  to play in the Bills was like a big deal.
• 55:20
  And it was loud. No, I, I listened to that on the
• 55:23
  radio after I picked her up and they were talking about how hard
• 55:27
  as, as radio analysts with these things on, how loud it was for
• 55:32
  them that they were having trouble hearing within their own
• 55:34
  speakers because it like bounces off that top, the metal piece.
• 55:40
  And so no, I think it's going to be bills are going to ride that
• 55:43
  high every home game this season.
• 55:46
  And it, you know, they might lose 1, maybe two games at home.
• 55:50
  But I also would not be surprised if they're not
• 55:52
  undefeated at home and are the kind of the dogs on the block
• 55:55
  like we talked about. So no, I the Chargers are going
• 55:58
  to have to improve vastly for me to believe they've even got a
• 56:01
  chance in this game right now. It's kind of random.
• 56:03
  Do you think Buffalo's new stadium kind of becomes the new
• 56:06
  Lumen Field as far as like the crazy decibels?
• 56:08
  And it's like you can hardly hear yourself even think
• 56:11
  whenever you go there. So from what they said, from
• 56:13
  what I heard the radio people say, because again, I was
• 56:16
  listening to it on on Sirius, I think so.
• 56:20
  And I think that, I mean, in a playoff atmosphere, if you got
• 56:23
  to go there in the winter when it's already cold and they got
• 56:26
  that top open and that sound is coming off and, and no, I mean,
• 56:31
  I think that's going to be a scary place to have to go play.
• 56:34
  And if you remember too, most teams hate to come in here to
• 56:36
  the RCA Dome because that that same issue, it was all that
• 56:39
  sound was just compressed and getting just blasted back down.
• 56:42
  So the last two seasons in the RCA Dome, I had season tickets
• 56:47
  and then went into Lucas Oil and had season tickets and our
• 56:51
  season tickets for the RCA Dome were like 4 rows from the back.
• 56:56
  Like they weren't, you know, they weren't very good.
• 56:58
  We were first time ticket holders, that sort of thing.
• 57:00
  We got a lot better seats at Lucas Oil when we moved there.
• 57:02
  But that place, I mean literally you could feel the, the, what do
• 57:08
  I want to call it? The the the big metal piece that
• 57:11
  holds up the IT would ricochet right next to us like you could
• 57:15
  hear it going itself. Like the reverberations and
• 57:20
  whatnot. Yes, you could hear it as an
• 57:22
  additional sound. So the I think the same thing's
• 57:25
  happening there and you have that cold level and you add Alan
• 57:28
  being a dog and he might figure out how to win this year.
• 57:32
  Yeah, he he might. And especially if now he has a
• 57:34
  home field advantage just like Patrick Mahomes does.
• 57:36
  Yeah, it'll be, it'll be a rough time.
• 57:39
  Obviously, the game that you're going to highlight.
• 57:41
  We have the Texans coming to the Colts, both O and two looking
• 57:44
  for their first win of the season.
• 57:46
  Do you think this is 1? You know, whoever wins, do you
• 57:50
  think this kind of rights the ship to at least get them on
• 57:53
  performing better as the season progresses and as we move on
• 57:56
  down the line? I haven't looked at the, I
• 58:02
  haven't looked at Houston's schedule.
• 58:03
  I actually looked at the Jaguars schedule and boy, that is a
• 58:06
  scary schedule coming up for them because I wanted to see
• 58:09
  like, oh, what do the Jaguars face in the next couple games to
• 58:11
  see if we could if the Colts might be able to catch up with
• 58:14
  them. They got a really scary next
• 58:16
  three games. So I don't know what the what
• 58:18
  the Houston's has, but the Colts have in the next four games,
• 58:23
  three games that I I feel really strongly hang in my hat that
• 58:27
  they're going to win. And it starts with the Texans.
• 58:30
  Let's see, Texans have the Colts, Cowboys at they have them
• 58:35
  in Houston. They go to Tennessee and then
• 58:37
  they host the Jags, and then they host the Giants.
• 58:40
  Wait, that's Houston. That's so I don't think, I don't
• 58:43
  think Houston can beat the Cowboys.
• 58:45
  I mean, I'm not, you know, I know you're not a Cowboys fan
• 58:48
  anymore per SE, but there's some dogs out in Dallas and this, you
• 58:55
  know, I don't think this is the season, but I do think this is
• 58:58
  the season where they get back into that conversation of one of
• 59:02
  the top NFC teams. So for me, I think the Texans,
• 59:07
  this has got to be scary for them.
• 59:08
  Like they go to a place where they haven't predominantly won
• 59:12
  in history, right? I mean, for the most part, we've
• 59:14
  owned the Texans in Indianapolis.
• 59:18
  In Houston too, Ty Hilton used to wipe.
• 59:20
  For whatever reason, Ty used to. Wipe them up against the Texans
• 59:25
  himself. But you know, I, I think the
• 59:28
  Colts win this game. I, I don't think it's going to
• 59:31
  be a blowout by any means, But what I saw, I feel like the
• 59:35
  Texans, we saw who they were right now last weekend and that
• 59:39
  was 6 points against a really good team.
• 59:44
  And I think we also saw who the Colts can be and who, as long as
• 59:49
  they keep that trajectory, are this coming week.
• 59:52
  And I think the Colts win by I'm going to, you know, I'm going to
• 59:56
  say a field goal or more. I'd, I do think it could be
• 59:58
  close. I, I could see us winning by as
• 1:00:00
  much as 10 right now. I don't see us really doing much
• 1:00:03
  more than that. But if the Texans get out of
• 1:00:06
  here with with a win, the Colts are in a lot of trouble.
• 1:00:10
  Yeah, I think so. And I know this is maybe a
• 1:00:12
  little off topic. Do you think if they do the
• 1:00:16
  conversations and I, I don't know how much it's considered
• 1:00:19
  because honestly I thought this would have happened like 3-4
• 1:00:22
  years ago. You think the conversation
• 1:00:24
  finally starts to happen? Oh, hey Chris, time for you to
• 1:00:27
  go buddy. You have not been a great
• 1:00:29
  general manager. You have produced like no
• 1:00:32
  success. Like, time for you to go.
• 1:00:35
  All right, You know, I, I, you know, I, I, I struggle with this
• 1:00:39
  'cause I still have a belief in Chris Ballard, right?
• 1:00:41
  Like, I there, he's done a lot of really impressive things.
• 1:00:46
  And I think he came in and if, if you know, at the time when he
• 1:00:50
  came in, I was a, I, I, Ryan Gregson was leaving.
• 1:00:53
  I was, I was really zoned in. I was listening to the press
• 1:00:56
  conferences. He's, he laid out a plan that
• 1:00:58
  the truth is he's followed that model up until a couple recent
• 1:01:02
  decisions in the last, I'm going to say 818 months, which
• 1:01:06
  includes that Sauce Gardner trade.
• 1:01:09
  You know, I, I don't think that was in that plan.
• 1:01:12
  And I think they saw an opportunity to finally win and
• 1:01:15
  he sold out in a way that he had never done before.
• 1:01:19
  And so I, you know, I, I think he is probably on his last leg.
• 1:01:26
  And because of that, I think he is, you know, making some
• 1:01:29
  decisions that maybe aren't the best.
• 1:01:31
  And if that keeps happening, yes, he's out.
• 1:01:34
  But I think Carly Ursay has been very clear.
• 1:01:36
  I don't know if the if the directive is we make the
• 1:01:39
  playoffs or you're out, or if it's, you know, we got to win a
• 1:01:46
  Super Bowl or you're out. But I can tell you this team
• 1:01:48
  isn't going to win a Super Bowl. That's not who they are right
• 1:01:50
  now. You know, could they be a
• 1:01:53
  contender if they if they continue the progression that
• 1:01:56
  they did from week 1 to Week 2 every week in the season, maybe
• 1:02:00
  we're right there. But otherwise, like I don't
• 1:02:03
  foresee that happening. It's going to be a a real grind
• 1:02:06
  out season where we're gonna make the playoffs 9 and 8 as a
• 1:02:10
  wild card, 10 and seven, maybe as a division winner or as a
• 1:02:13
  wild card. And that right now, you know, we
• 1:02:17
  might even get in the playoffs and win a game.
• 1:02:19
  Like I could see us win in a game with what I saw last week.
• 1:02:22
  But can we go to Arrowhead? Can we go to, you know, New York
• 1:02:28
  with, with Allen out there and Buffalo?
• 1:02:31
  Like, I don't think, I don't think we can win those games.
• 1:02:34
  And, and again, it comes back to Daniel Jones has never been a
• 1:02:37
  winner and win at Duke and win with the Giants.
• 1:02:40
  I, I, I'm not convinced he can win one with us if we get in the
• 1:02:44
  playoffs with that team. But I think he's a guy after
• 1:02:47
  what I saw last season, what I saw in Week 2, who can
• 1:02:50
  absolutely lead us to where we need to go.
• 1:02:54
  Yeah, absolutely. And so this one, this one,
• 1:02:57
  again, we don't have to spend too much time on it.
• 1:02:59
  But again, I I think it's interesting because I don't
• 1:03:01
  think at any point we would have talked about the Raiders going
• 1:03:05
  to New Orleans. And Joy asked, I'm going to put
• 1:03:08
  it, I'm going to put it up here in a second.
• 1:03:09
  Joy asked for a link to your channel.
• 1:03:12
  She's really sweet. She watches my show a lot.
• 1:03:14
  She always hypes me up quite a bit.
• 1:03:16
  Absolutely sweet lady. But she is a Saints fan.
• 1:03:20
  She's also ALSU tigers fan Go Tigers.
• 1:03:23
  But I don't think any of us expected the Raiders to be two
• 1:03:25
  and O and the Saints to get a shocking win in Baltimore of all
• 1:03:30
  places to it. I did not expect that given, you
• 1:03:33
  know, they always have salary cap issues.
• 1:03:35
  They've lost a lot of good players, you know, but it it's
• 1:03:37
  kind of showing Kellen Moore is maybe a better head coach than
• 1:03:41
  what I thought he would be kind of going into that situation.
• 1:03:45
  So do you expect this to maybe be a kind of an entertaining
• 1:03:49
  game? Because it's two teams that I
• 1:03:51
  think most of us expected to maybe be at the bottom of the
• 1:03:54
  league, but here they are. It's like, OK, the Saints are
• 1:03:56
  kind of entertaining. They almost beat the Lions and
• 1:03:59
  they go into Baltimore and they beat Lamar and the Ravens of all
• 1:04:01
  teams. Well, I definitely think this is
• 1:04:04
  going to be a very entertaining game.
• 1:04:05
  In fact, you know, from, you know, I think that, and I've
• 1:04:09
  thought this for a while, Fernando Mendoza's ceiling is
• 1:04:14
  Kirk Cousins. Like I think his top ability is
• 1:04:17
  going to look very similar to to Kirk Cousins, right?
• 1:04:20
  But I also think that he he was a winner, right?
• 1:04:25
  So I think when he comes on, like I could be wrong when I
• 1:04:28
  said he wasn't the guy because, you know, maybe it's a winning
• 1:04:30
  thing and he's got Tom Brady to educate him and all those things
• 1:04:32
  in there. But what I see on the other side
• 1:04:36
  of the ball, and I think Joy's going to be happy about this
• 1:04:39
  boy. The Saints are some dogs, bro.
• 1:04:42
  Absolutely there to grind with you.
• 1:04:44
  What they did to the Ravens was embarrassing.
• 1:04:47
  If I'm a Baltimore fan and it is because of what the Saints have
• 1:04:51
  shown out lately, I like in the past couple seasons, Kellen
• 1:04:55
  Moore is, you know, I don't know if he's a head coach.
• 1:04:58
  I'm with you. I still got question marks on
• 1:05:00
  that. But he's a dog and call an
• 1:05:02
  offense and Tyler Shook looks like.
• 1:05:04
  I mean, he was not even on my radar as a guy that I would have
• 1:05:07
  thought was going to be anything in the NFL.
• 1:05:10
  And not only did he show out in his rookie season, I mean, if
• 1:05:13
  you saw the, the, the, I mean, his face was bleeding in the
• 1:05:17
  game and he was still playing his butts out.
• 1:05:21
  And that's what you need in a quarterback.
• 1:05:23
  That's what you want in a quarterback.
• 1:05:25
  I actually got the Saints winning this game.
• 1:05:27
  You know, like, I think they're at home.
• 1:05:30
  I think the Raiders have, they've been on a high.
• 1:05:32
  And sometimes when you've been on a high and you think you're a
• 1:05:35
  little bit better than you are, you get hit in the face.
• 1:05:38
  And I, I think the Saints know who they are and I think they're
• 1:05:41
  ready to throw that punch. So I think the Saints, but I
• 1:05:44
  think it's a good game. I think it's a within 7 point
• 1:05:47
  game, but I think the Saints get em could be on a last second
• 1:05:50
  field. I mean it could be really close,
• 1:05:52
  but I think the media is gonna all of a sudden be like, whoa,
• 1:05:56
  who are these Saints? Because they beat A2 and O
• 1:05:59
  Raiders team that shouldn't be owed to.
• 1:06:01
  But I think some of that excitement's come and joy.
• 1:06:03
  So I hope you enjoy it. I think she will 2nd to last
• 1:06:08
  one. This one I feel like is
• 1:06:09
  interesting because now we get to see the Rams have another
• 1:06:13
  true test. That's not, you know, 24 hours
• 1:06:16
  away in a in another country and all that debauchery that
• 1:06:19
  happened. The Rams go to Denver to take on
• 1:06:22
  Bo Nicks and the Broncos. Obviously they get a big win
• 1:06:25
  against the Giants. Unfortunately, that large part
• 1:06:29
  of that was due to Jackson Dart, you know, getting hurt and now
• 1:06:31
  come find out he's out for the season.
• 1:06:34
  Saw that? Terrible.
• 1:06:36
  Absolutely terrible 'cause I mean, he, he kind of the same
• 1:06:39
  thing as Baker. Like he's giving the Giants kind
• 1:06:41
  of that swag between him and Cam Scataboo, who apparently just
• 1:06:45
  eats CTE for breakfast. As far as like inviting
• 1:06:49
  everything. Like who, who do you have
• 1:06:52
  winning in this 'cause I mean, I feel like this is kind of really
• 1:06:55
  a tale of I, I would think 2 defenses that could really be
• 1:07:00
  elite or kind of, you know, poop, poop the bed and two
• 1:07:04
  offenses that can honestly do do the same.
• 1:07:07
  Yeah, I think the, you know, so the question mark here is the
• 1:07:11
  Broncos defense. Like that is the big question
• 1:07:13
  mark in this game. You know, the what the Ravens
• 1:07:17
  did in Week 1 was was poor team management.
• 1:07:19
  It wasn't that like if they'd have gone over there and and
• 1:07:22
  done some different things, I think they win that game too.
• 1:07:25
  The Broncos, however, I think right now they're fool's gold.
• 1:07:28
  Like last last week's game was not one to hang your hat on if
• 1:07:31
  you're a Broncos fan for for the things you said.
• 1:07:34
  And the defense still didn't play at the level that I would
• 1:07:37
  have hoped they'd played. So I feel like what they got was
• 1:07:41
  an extra pre season game, right? Like, I think that's what they
• 1:07:44
  got last week. And I think the Rams are gonna
• 1:07:48
  come in. I mean, the Rams are a bully,
• 1:07:50
  bro. They're a bully on offense.
• 1:07:52
  They're a bully on defense. And I think they're going to do
• 1:07:56
  some dirty, dirty work in in this scenario.
• 1:08:01
  So I'm a I'm a little bit cautious to say that the Broncos
• 1:08:08
  are anything and, and I, you know, shout out to the Broncos
• 1:08:12
  defense. They're my fantasy.
• 1:08:13
  I kept them as a in my in my dynasty league, thinking they
• 1:08:16
  were going to be awesome. And I'm not sold that they're
• 1:08:19
  the guys. But I do think this game is
• 1:08:21
  going to tell us if they're if they're a contender in the AFC,
• 1:08:25
  because if they go just get beat down at home to the Rams after
• 1:08:29
  what just happened with the Chiefs, they're Sean Payton that
• 1:08:35
  people are gonna be yelling at Sean Payton real quick in the
• 1:08:37
  media. Yeah, and they already have
• 1:08:39
  because he kind of, I guess, has this weird relationship with the
• 1:08:41
  offensive coordinator David Webb, because he he had to give
• 1:08:45
  up plays because they wanted to even hire an OCS.
• 1:08:47
  He's not giving up plays. He, he, he was told to give up
• 1:08:51
  plays. He's created the illusion of
• 1:08:53
  giving up plays. Sean Payton will not give up the
• 1:08:55
  control. And props to him.
• 1:08:57
  Like I was the same way as a coach.
• 1:08:59
  I wanted to control every aspect of the game that I could.
• 1:09:02
  And that's how he wants to be. And for that?
• 1:09:05
  And I'll be honest, like it worked last year and it's like
• 1:09:09
  I. Don't know why they told him he
• 1:09:10
  couldn't. I don't either.
• 1:09:11
  It's like, with the exception of Bonex getting an injury, you
• 1:09:14
  were one game away from the Super Bowl.
• 1:09:16
  And I mean, I think if Bonex was in that game, that's a whole
• 1:09:20
  different story. There's a different play, a team
• 1:09:22
  playing in that Super Bowl. I agree with that.
• 1:09:24
  And, and I think it would have been I, I don't know about a
• 1:09:27
  potential like different Super Bowl result, but I mean that
• 1:09:31
  like those team versus see, I mean that that would have been a
• 1:09:34
  hell of a game to watch, an absolute hell of a game to.
• 1:09:37
  Watch. I guess my question about that
• 1:09:39
  whole Sean Payton situation is he just took you in what season
• 1:09:43
  2? Was that season 2 for him there
• 1:09:47
  or season 3? Three, 'cause he had Russ for
• 1:09:49
  one year, I think. One or two he takes you in
• 1:09:52
  season 3 with Bonex basically to the AFC championship game and
• 1:09:58
  your response is you can't call plays.
• 1:10:00
  Why are you broke? Why why are you trying to fix
• 1:10:03
  something that isn't broken? Like that's, that's a question
• 1:10:05
  that I had about that as a as a Bron, if I'd have been a Broncos
• 1:10:09
  fan, I would have been really upset about that because why are
• 1:10:14
  we changing it? It seemed to work before.
• 1:10:16
  And especially when they go out and they get another dynamic
• 1:10:18
  weapon and Jalen Waddle for Bonex to throw, like why
• 1:10:21
  wouldn't you put that combination of you know, you
• 1:10:24
  know, his play calling with Bonex, Waddle, Cortland,
• 1:10:28
  something like that. That's nasty.
• 1:10:29
  Nobody wants to deal with that. No, Jalen Waddle is like
• 1:10:33
  literally the prototypical wide receiver that Sean Payton would
• 1:10:36
  want. I mean, think about what he was
• 1:10:37
  able to do with Brandon Cooks. And I, I, I, I don't, I'm not a
• 1:10:41
  big Brandon Cooks guy, but Jalen Waddle is better than Brandon
• 1:10:44
  Cooks. And, and Brandon Cooks has been
• 1:10:47
  a dog in the league for, I mean, he I think holds a single record
• 1:10:51
  of being from the most teams and having 1000 yards season with
• 1:10:55
  each one of them. Do you know how hard it is to go
• 1:10:57
  from offense to offense to offense and still produce
• 1:11:00
  Incredible. And I think Jalen Waddle's
• 1:11:02
  better than him. So absolutely.
• 1:11:04
  And I mean, he was successful even with the Dolphins amidst
• 1:11:07
  all of their shenanigans that they deal with.
• 1:11:11
  Last one though, before, before we get out of here, because it's
• 1:11:13
  the Monday night game, the Eagles at the Bears.
• 1:11:16
  And this one is interesting because, again, the Eagles kind
• 1:11:19
  of play down to their opponents. And we may or may not see Caleb
• 1:11:23
  Williams in this. But much to your point that you
• 1:11:26
  talked about earlier with a hamstring injury, because it's a
• 1:11:28
  soft tissue. This isn't exactly something
• 1:11:31
  like, oh, yeah, if I don't do anything for like a week, it'll
• 1:11:33
  get better. Like it'll, it'll progress.
• 1:11:35
  No. And especially for as much as
• 1:11:37
  Caleb likes to move around as much as he's going to scramble
• 1:11:40
  and as much as he's going to want to move around because he's
• 1:11:42
  not your traditional like Peyton or Brady step up in the pocket
• 1:11:47
  and, you know, cerebrally, you know, dissect the field and, you
• 1:11:50
  know, dissect your defense. Like, I don't I, I, I have the
• 1:11:55
  Eagles winning this, unfortunately, because, you
• 1:11:57
  know, I I just because the quarterback play like I like
• 1:12:00
  Tyson Baigent, but I don't feel like he's going to be able to do
• 1:12:02
  enough in Ben Johnson's system, even with all the talent that
• 1:12:06
  the Bears, you know, have on offense to be able to, you know,
• 1:12:09
  counteract Philly, at least having their franchise
• 1:12:12
  quarterback with. I think Saquon is potentially
• 1:12:15
  going to miss some time because he has a little bit of some
• 1:12:17
  injuries as well. But this is just one of those
• 1:12:20
  when I heard, oh, yeah, Caleb might start.
• 1:12:23
  Don't do that. Don't rush him back.
• 1:12:24
  Like, it's still early in the season.
• 1:12:26
  You can lose a couple of games and it's not going to be the end
• 1:12:28
  of the world. But but what's your thoughts on
• 1:12:30
  it? Well, first of all, I 100%
• 1:12:32
  agree. And you have to protect him from
• 1:12:34
  himself in that. There's no, I mean, if you, if
• 1:12:37
  anybody who saw that game, I was actually watching that game live
• 1:12:39
  and they did a replay where you could see his face when it
• 1:12:43
  tweaked and you could see him reach back and try to get it.
• 1:12:46
  And then he just went both legs limp when he fell.
• 1:12:48
  I don't care how light of a of a tweak it was.
• 1:12:52
  Like even if he got away with it just being a tweak, but he he
• 1:12:55
  left that field. That was more than a tweak.
• 1:12:57
  That was definitely a pull. I'm glad it wasn't a tear.
• 1:13:00
  I was really worried. I texted some people like, I
• 1:13:02
  think he tear tore it, you know, and I was really worried about
• 1:13:05
  that. But you know, I think the story
• 1:13:09
  of the the Vikings Bears game was more about the Vikings and
• 1:13:13
  and what they can do than it was.
• 1:13:15
  The Bears went from 59 points to six points.
• 1:13:18
  I think that was a story more about the Vikings.
• 1:13:21
  So my fear here actually is that this is a catch you game for the
• 1:13:25
  Eagles. Here's why I think the Eagles
• 1:13:28
  win this game too. I think they probably win by 10
• 1:13:30
  or more. However, there is a reality
• 1:13:34
  where they go in here thinking, well, the bill, the Bears just
• 1:13:37
  scored six points against the Vikings.
• 1:13:39
  They don't have Caleb Williams and Tyson Baigent puts up 325
• 1:13:44
  and two or three tuddies on him and and and wake them up and win
• 1:13:48
  this game somehow, and I think that's a Ben Johnson ability.
• 1:13:52
  Do I think it will happen? No.
• 1:13:54
  Do I think it's possible and there's a reality?
• 1:13:56
  Yes, but I got the eagles by 10. You know, me playing the
• 1:13:59
  conservative. This is what I think the the
• 1:14:01
  majority of the universes. It's going to happen.
• 1:14:04
  Yeah, and it's funny. Joy commented on this.
• 1:14:06
  So I have a buddy that I do this show with two named MM is from
• 1:14:10
  Chicago. He lives, eats, breathes and
• 1:14:13
  dies Chicago Bears. So and he's actually a huge
• 1:14:16
  Tyson Bajet fan too, so he would be ecstatic to hear you say that
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  there's a possibility. There's a reality.
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  I'm not saying this happened. There's a reality.
• 1:14:23
  Like, like he could possibly do 325 and like, Mike would be
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  ecstatic right now to hear that. Hey, he's a solid backup.
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  He's he's a very solid backup. And if there's there's anything
• 1:14:35
  that we've learned about the NFL, it is that a solid backup
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  can flash in the pan week by week.
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  And who better to do it against an Eagles team that just made
• 1:14:44
  Cam Ward look good and the Titans look good.
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  And I don't think they're very good.
• 1:14:49
  I'm still mad at at, Oh my gosh, who's the good morning football
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  guy? Michael Strahan.
• 1:14:58
  No good morning football with it's a not.
• 1:15:02
  Michael Strahan's a good morning American now I can't think of
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  his name. Kyle Brandt.
• 1:15:09
  Kyle Brandt. I got a big bone to pick with
• 1:15:11
  Kyle Brandt. He picked the Titans to make the
• 1:15:13
  playoffs. I got major issues with that as
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  a wild card, and so to me, they're Owen, too.
• 1:15:20
  I'm really glad about that. I hope he takes them off their
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  list. But the Eagles played down to
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  them in a game they shouldn't have.
• 1:15:25
  It's possible they do that with the Bears and Tyson.
• 1:15:28
  Beijing shows out. Yeah, I think the, I, I think
• 1:15:31
  the two things that kind of offset and we'll see ultimately
• 1:15:34
  where it leads to. You have a very old Philly
• 1:15:37
  offensive line like they're like they're still good, but they're
• 1:15:42
  old. Like Wayne Johnson.
• 1:15:43
  This is probably going to be his last season.
• 1:15:45
  Obviously they lost Kelsey within the last couple of years
• 1:15:48
  due to some age. So they do have some other
• 1:15:50
  younger pieces in there, but for the most part they are older.
• 1:15:53
  Saquon got hurt, you know, and there's been a lot of questions
• 1:15:56
  with Jalen Hurts. I for one, I watched Jalen at
• 1:15:59
  Alabama. I watched him Oklahoma, thought
• 1:16:01
  he was great. I didn't mind him going to
• 1:16:03
  Philly until I can't. It's funny Joey posted this.
• 1:16:09
  I hate him so much I can't even remember his name.
• 1:16:11
  That's how I feel about the Eagles head coach Nick Siriani.
• 1:16:14
  Like I like, I cannot stand Nick Siriani so much.
• 1:16:17
  And it was like between him and then just the tush push thing
• 1:16:20
  and I'm like, I can't stand. Him, dude, the tush push is
• 1:16:23
  brilliant. It's brilliant.
• 1:16:24
  It it's one of those it's funny when I as much as I dislike
• 1:16:29
  Philly, even though I'm not a Dallas fan anymore, the the hate
• 1:16:32
  for Philly is still strong. And it got even worse when I had
• 1:16:34
  to do a work trip to Philly, and that was a whole awful
• 1:16:37
  experience with their airport and whatnot.
• 1:16:40
  It was like, I'm watching this and I heard people like, oh, we
• 1:16:43
  want to vote to ban the Tush push.
• 1:16:44
  I'm like don't do it. No, no, that's that's been a
• 1:16:47
  legal part of the game for since the game's inception.
• 1:16:50
  That is that the roots of what the game is.
• 1:16:52
  If you can't stop it, too bad you.
• 1:16:54
  Can't win. You got to figure out a way and
• 1:16:57
  teams have because it's obviously not as effective as
• 1:16:59
  much as it was anymore. And it may also be just you have
• 1:17:02
  to have the right skill players like a Kelsey, like the
• 1:17:05
  offensive line that they have to make that.
• 1:17:08
  Yeah, Jalen. I mean, Jalen Hurts is a dog
• 1:17:10
  too, bro. Have you ever seen what he?
• 1:17:11
  What he? Oh.
• 1:17:15
  My goodness, it's no wonder he's he's at the back of that push
• 1:17:18
  and of course they're going to win that.
• 1:17:19
  Right. And and plus it was one of those
• 1:17:21
  that's like, God, if if you give Nick Siriani that fuel for his
• 1:17:24
  ego, like he'll never, we'll never hear it now, never hear
• 1:17:27
  the other. No, do not ban it.
• 1:17:28
  Whatever you do, don't ban it. Just figure out how to stop it.
• 1:17:31
  Exactly. But nonetheless, man, I
• 1:17:33
  appreciate it. This has been an absolute blast.
• 1:17:36
  Thank you again. Thank you so much.
• 1:17:39
  No, thank you, man. So I put it up on here.
• 1:17:41
  I'll put it up on here again if you want to hear more of of
• 1:17:45
  Devin and like you said, he primarily talks Colts.
• 1:17:47
  I'm assuming they talk more about, you know, other football
• 1:17:50
  shows, but checking out of the sick podcast, the Amble shows,
• 1:17:52
  it's every Tuesday and Thursday, right?
• 1:17:55
  Tuesday and Thursday at 7:15 Eastern Standard Time.
• 1:17:59
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• 1:18:02
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• 1:18:06
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