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Former New Mexico AG Gary King Faces New Epstein Scrutiny (Part 2) (9/10/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're getting right back to
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  Speaker 1: the article about Gary King from the Santa Fe New Mexican.
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  Speaker 1: And the headline of the article is he wasn't my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Former New Mexico AG Gary King distances himself from Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Once again this article was authored by Clara Bates. 2014
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  Speaker 1: Donations The next time that the pair talked was when
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  Speaker 1: King ran unsuccessfully for governor in 2014, he said. While
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  Speaker 1: King now maintains he told Epstein not to donate, Epstein
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  Speaker 1: went on to contribute more than $ 35, 000 to King in 2014,
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  Speaker 1: the New Mexican reported. Please call Gary King. He looks
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  Speaker 1: very forward to speaking with you, Epstein's assistant wrote to
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  Speaker 1: him on June 5th. Now remember, this is all after
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  Speaker 1: everybody knew what Epstein was. King can say whatever he
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  Speaker 1: wants now, and he can try and change history, but
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  Speaker 1: the truth is what it is. And the truth is, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: King was another person who decided to look the other way.
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  Speaker 1: And that's because they thought that Epstein could be helpful.
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  Speaker 1: And who gives a shit if a bunch of people
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  Speaker 1: had their lives ruined by Jeffrey Epstein? As long as
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  Speaker 1: he can help me. That's been the ongoing theme, hasn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Later that day, on June 5th, 2014, King wrote in
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  Speaker 1: an email to Epstein, Thank you for the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: speak with you today. It means a lot to have
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  Speaker 1: your friendship and support. And directed him on how to contribute.
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  Speaker 1: King said it was likely his campaign staff who sent
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  Speaker 1: follow-up emails, which was a standard letter, sent out to
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  Speaker 1: solicit donations. Was it likely that, or was it that?
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  Speaker 1: I think people are done with maybes, and they want
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  Speaker 1: the real story. And it seems like Mr. King is
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  Speaker 1: still playing games. He said that when Epstein reached out
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  Speaker 1: to him to donate and they spoke by phone that day,
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  Speaker 1: King actually rejected any contribution. Oh, well, Mr. King, what
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  Speaker 1: a hell of a guy. The sort of guy that
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  Speaker 1: you want running your state, huh? Just the kind of
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  Speaker 1: makeup we want our governors to have. No person who's
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  Speaker 1: running for office would want to be associated with or
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  Speaker 1: get campaign contributions from somebody who had been convicted of
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  Speaker 1: the crimes that Jeffrey Epstein had been convicted of, he said. Well,
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  Speaker 1: most people wouldn't even associate with him. Never mind, except
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  Speaker 1: their phone calls or have donations come in that you
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  Speaker 1: have to return. That should just be known, right? From
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  Speaker 1: everybody involved. Hey, look, Jeffrey Epstein, sick dude. If he calls,
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  Speaker 1: tell him the answer is no. We don't want his money.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want his support. In fact, if I become governor,
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  Speaker 1: I'm opening a case on his ass. Did Mr. King
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  Speaker 1: do that? We all know the answer. When I told
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  Speaker 1: him that I wouldn't accept the contribution, he basically hung
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  Speaker 1: up on me, King said. And there it is. The
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  Speaker 1: unassailable defense. Look, he hung up on me. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: even like me. Well, how can we verify that? Can
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  Speaker 1: we ask Jeffrey Epstein? I guess we can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: So how do we verify what Mr. King is saying?
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  Speaker 1: The answer is, we can't. And we have to take
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  Speaker 1: him at his word. Now, if that's something you're interested
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  Speaker 1: in doing, that's great. Me personally? No, thank you. Don't
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  Speaker 1: believe a word? any of these politicians say. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't care what fucking letters in front of their name. Republican, Democrat,
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  Speaker 1: everything in between. The whole lot of them? Untrustworthy. Shortly
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  Speaker 1: after King and Epstein spoke by phone, Epstein and his
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  Speaker 1: attorney were corresponding about how best to donate to King. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure King told them not to donate, and then
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  Speaker 1: Epstein decided, you know what, we're going to donate anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Does that sound logical to you? Now, of course, we
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  Speaker 1: can't discount anything when it comes to Epstein, but it
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  Speaker 1: sure sounds to me like Mr. King is just looking
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  Speaker 1: for an excuse and a way out. Unfortunately for him,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to give that to him. Epstein directed
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  Speaker 1: his staff to make contributions to King's campaign, but his
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  Speaker 1: longtime attorney Darren Indyke noted in a June 14th email
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  Speaker 1: that King's platform included fighting crimes against children. Do you
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  Speaker 1: risk additional news coverage regarding his accepting Of your contributions,
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  Speaker 1: Indyk wrote to Epstein, noting King's campaign website promised to
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  Speaker 1: strengthen New Mexico's child crime laws. Epstein responded, good catch,
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  Speaker 1: let's use companies or trusts. Always a workaround, right? Always
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  Speaker 1: a loophole. Always a way for these rich people to
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  Speaker 1: do what they want to do. And it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: what anybody else thinks. And the only reason Mr. King
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  Speaker 1: has anything to say now is because he was outed.
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  Speaker 1: But if he was a real man, he would have
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  Speaker 1: come out previously and said all of this. But like
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  Speaker 1: the rest of these roaches in Jeffrey Epstein's world, they
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  Speaker 1: had to be compelled to do so. And if you
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  Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong, if you weren't involved in any
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  Speaker 1: of the abuse or anything like that, I would think
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  Speaker 1: that you'd be mortified that you spent even one second
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  Speaker 1: with this dude and you'd want to talk to every
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  Speaker 1: single authority that wanted to talk to you. But that's
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  Speaker 1: not what we've seen. Throughout the years, these people have
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  Speaker 1: retreated behind lawyers and canned-ass statements. And then when the
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  Speaker 1: files come out, oh, it's a whole different ballgame, right?
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  Speaker 1: People like Kathy Rumler, Larry Summers, Mr. Lutnick, and the
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  Speaker 1: rest of them, well, they can no longer lie to us.
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  Speaker 1: Because we have the emails to back up everything we've
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  Speaker 1: been saying for the past seven years. Asked why Epstein
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  Speaker 1: would have donated after King told him not to, King
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  Speaker 1: said he didn't donate. They are companies that he's affiliated with. Oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: in that case, no big deal. Who do you think
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  Speaker 1: runs those companies? Where do you think the money is
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  Speaker 1: coming from? Did it magically appear in the money jar?
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  Speaker 1: There is a tree in the backyard and money grows
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  Speaker 1: off of it? Or did Jeffrey Epstein use his ill-gotten
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  Speaker 1: gains to fund your bitch-ass campaign? What's the truth, Mr. King?
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  Speaker 1: The money was donated to King's campaign through several different U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Virgin Islands-based companies registered to Epstein's address. Those donations, too,
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  Speaker 1: came under scrutiny after a September 2014 report by the
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  Speaker 1: New Mexican traced the company's addresses. Look, there's no doubt
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  Speaker 1: that he was getting money directly from Epstein. And what,
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  Speaker 1: were to believe that he didn't have any idea that
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  Speaker 1: it was coming in from the trust? That when he
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  Speaker 1: had that phone call with Epstein, Epstein didn't lay it
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  Speaker 1: all out for him? Okay, sure. Mr. King, just another
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  Speaker 1: man that's been victimized by Jeffrey Epstein, the world's greatest criminal.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they'd have you believe. But the truth is,
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  Speaker 1: the vast majority of these scumbags were willing participants. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: not in the abuse, but in the enabling, in being adjacent,
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  Speaker 1: and trying to benefit from the crumbs that fell from
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  Speaker 1: this bitch-ass motherfucker's table. Whenever it came to my attention
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  Speaker 1: that we had received contributions from Epstein-affiliated organizations in 2014,
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  Speaker 1: then I instructed my campaign finance organization to either send
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  Speaker 1: those back or send them to non-profits in Santa Fe
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  Speaker 1: that were dealing with victims of domestic violence, King said.
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  Speaker 1: Always the same thing, right? Let me wrap myself in
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  Speaker 1: my charitable givings. I'm such a great guy. No, bitch.
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  Speaker 1: Why'd you take the money in the first place? The
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  Speaker 1: day before the news of Epstein's 2014 donation to King
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  Speaker 1: appeared in print, King was flying to Washington with his
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  Speaker 1: staffers on a plane Epstein had helped charter. Epstein was
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  Speaker 1: not on the flight, but several emails detail his involvement
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  Speaker 1: in setting up the charter. Again, why are you taking
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  Speaker 1: anything from this dude after 2014? You have to know
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  Speaker 1: that it comes with a whole ass lot of stink.
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  Speaker 1: Please call Gary King when you have a moment, Epstein's
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  Speaker 1: assistant wrote to Epstein August 21st in an email released
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  Speaker 1: by the U.S. Justice Department. He said he was returning
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  Speaker 1: your call, but also wanted to speak to you about
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  Speaker 1: possibly using your plane to get him from Santa Fe
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  Speaker 1: the evening of September 8th around 8pm so he can
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  Speaker 1: make a breakfast in DC on September 9th. He says
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  Speaker 1: he can pay for the fuel and landing airport fees.
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  Speaker 1: King in interviews this week said he never sought out
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's assistance in arranging the flight and his name might
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  Speaker 1: have been used as shorthand for his campaign. No, you're
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  Speaker 1: the one that's running. It's your campaign. Sorry, the buck
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  Speaker 1: stops with you. I'm so tired of that bullshit. Oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: it was my campaign who said it. No, bitch, you're
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  Speaker 1: the one behind the campaign. They're speaking on your behalf.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just like when they talk about systemic issues
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  Speaker 1: within the BOP. Well, those issues are because the people
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  Speaker 1: you have working don't give a fuck, okay? That's why
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  Speaker 1: we have issues. If they'd follow the guidelines, if they
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  Speaker 1: do everything they're supposed to do, breaking news, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those issues go away. So it's about the people, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's not just about the system. Who do you think
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  Speaker 1: is putting those rules into effect or not putting those
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  Speaker 1: rules into effect? Actual people. So if we don't hold
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  Speaker 1: people accountable, then we get this bullshit. Oh, it was
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  Speaker 1: my campaign. No, it was you. King didn't know Epstein
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  Speaker 1: helped arrange the flight, he said, and wonders if it
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  Speaker 1: was former Governor Bill Richardson who had arranged for King
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  Speaker 1: to meet with union leaders in D.C. who was responsible. Richardson,
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  Speaker 1: who was friends with Epstein for years, died in 2023. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: more than friends. And I don't understand why there's not
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  Speaker 1: more being made of Bill Richardson and George Mitchell. Is
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  Speaker 1: it because the party that they're in? Because if that's
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  Speaker 1: the case, man, I got a lot to say. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that have a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: to say about Jeffrey Epstein, but they conveniently leave Bill
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  Speaker 1: Richardson and George Mitchell out of the conversation. I assure
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  Speaker 1: you that Virginia was not so willing to leave them
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  Speaker 1: out of the conversation, considering what she said and considering
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  Speaker 1: the allegations she made against both men. So I would
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  Speaker 1: think that would be a bigger conversation, especially George Mitchell.
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  Speaker 1: but like usual, just swept under the rug. One of
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  Speaker 1: my staff members said, well, I think that we got
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  Speaker 1: the information on where to lease the airplane from Bill Richardson,
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  Speaker 1: King said. I think it's more than possible that Richardson
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  Speaker 1: might have called whoever he knew there and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Gary King needs an airplane to fly to DC. And people,
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  Speaker 1: when you're campaigning, people use your name for all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. Oh yeah, okay, so that's an excuse. I
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  Speaker 1: guess that settles it. People were using his name. Who
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  Speaker 1: are the people that used your name? Can we get
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  Speaker 1: a list of them? Can we talk to them? Or
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  Speaker 1: was it just the system? King's campaign reported spending about $ 22, 000
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  Speaker 1: for the flight, which Epstein helped arrange through a company
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  Speaker 1: called InJet. Federal files and campaign finance reports submitted by
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  Speaker 1: King show. Five passengers flew on that September 8, 2014
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  Speaker 1: charter flight, including Holland, according to a flight information sheet.
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  Speaker 1: There's no evidence he was involved, with setting up the flight,
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  Speaker 1: or knew, who helped arrange it. It was maintained she
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  Speaker 1: didn't know about the Epstein connection. Well look, this is
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  Speaker 1: on Gary King. Now Holland, she has her own things
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  Speaker 1: to answer for, right? What did you know? When did
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  Speaker 1: you know it? Go on record, let's hear it. But
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  Speaker 1: this is really about Mr. King. He's the one who
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  Speaker 1: set this up. He's the one that was pals with Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: And he's the one who accepted donations. The only other
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  Speaker 1: contact King remembers was in Epstein's later years, perhaps between
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  Speaker 1: 2014 In 2018, when Epstein called to complain, the Santa
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  Speaker 1: Fe County Sheriff was harassing his employees. He felt like
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  Speaker 1: whenever his ranch foreman was driving to Santa Fe, that
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  Speaker 1: the County Sheriff would stop him and ask him questions,
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  Speaker 1: King said. King remembers telling him he'd need to take
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  Speaker 1: up the issue with the Sheriff. Oh, I'm sure that's
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  Speaker 1: what you told him. I'm sure you didn't call the Sheriff.
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  Speaker 1: King was Attorney General at the time Epstein's crimes in
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  Speaker 1: Florida became well-known, but he didn't open an investigation. Why not?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the salient question, and nobody's really asked
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  Speaker 1: me that question, but the answer to that is that
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  Speaker 1: as a prosecutor, you need probable cause, King said. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that pleading guilty to a crime in another
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  Speaker 1: jurisdiction is probable cause to trigger an investigation. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: not at all. No probable cause whatsoever. As Attorney General,
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  Speaker 1: you don't pick up the phone and call Florida and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's the deal with this guy? He's a resident here too.
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  Speaker 1: The truth is you had no gut for it. That's
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  Speaker 1: what it comes down to. Former Attorney General Hector Balderas,
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  Speaker 1: who assumed office in 2015, opened an investigation in 2019
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  Speaker 1: into Epstein, which was ultimately suspended at the request of
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  Speaker 1: federal prosecutors. Balderas said, in a letter to the Truth
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  Speaker 1: Commission in July, said he began investigating as a result
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  Speaker 1: of news reports, not complaints, and he didn't inherit any
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  Speaker 1: case file on Epstein from prior administrations. He wrote, He'll
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  Speaker 1: have you believe it's because he didn't know. I have
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  Speaker 1: a different opinion. Despite the lack of an existing case
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  Speaker 1: file at the Office of the Attorney General, I was
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  Speaker 1: concerned that if Epstein had a residence in New Mexico,
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  Speaker 1: an investigation needed to be launched based on the public
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  Speaker 1: reporting alone, Baldaris wrote. The Truth Commission has said it
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  Speaker 1: plans to investigate whether there were missed opportunities to investigate
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  Speaker 1: Epstein in earlier years. King said he'd be glad to
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  Speaker 1: talk to the Truth Commission not only about his experiences,
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  Speaker 1: but to provide advice on legislative reforms. Oh, that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what we need. This guy putting his hands back in
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  Speaker 1: the mashed potatoes. As the Attorney General, I had written
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  Speaker 1: and found a sponsor to carry my human trafficking laws.
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  Speaker 1: My whole career has been working to help protect victims
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  Speaker 1: of domestic violence and victims of sexual assault, he said. Oh, well, Mr. King,
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  Speaker 1: the hero of it all. The man, the myth, the legend, Mr. King.
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  Speaker 1: This guy, for real, is he even reading what he's writing?
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  Speaker 1: It's only been now that I've been out of office
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  Speaker 1: for 10 years that there are a group of people
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  Speaker 1: out there Who feel like attacking my character is going
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  Speaker 1: to forward their political career. It's going to get them
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  Speaker 1: more clicks, he said. Or maybe, just maybe, you're being
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  Speaker 1: outed now in a more public manner. Could that be it, Mr. King?
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  Speaker 1: And that question is rhetorical. Because I think everybody out
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  Speaker 1: there already knows the answer. All the information that goes
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