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Best of Ian Furness 10/30 · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Visit with nfl films greg cosell brought to you by
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  Speaker 2: All right greg cosell joins us weekly visit love this
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  Speaker 2: and uh boy there was uh there's no shortage of
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  Speaker 2: things to talk about around the nfl and you know
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  Speaker 2: for us here in seattle greg it started on sunday
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  Speaker 2: night football with just uh Kind of a demolishing of
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  Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs and that offense by the Seahawks defense.
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  Speaker 2: And then one or two trades during the week. And oh,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, the Seahawks have Monday Night Football here
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  Speaker 2: in a few days against a pretty good Chicago Bears team.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know where we start. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: to get to, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: Certainly there's a lot to get to. Where do you
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  Speaker 3: want to start? Did you want to take a step
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  Speaker 3: back for a moment on the Chiefs game?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to get your thoughts on what you
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  Speaker 2: saw in that game on both sides of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's first talk about what they did. We
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  Speaker 2: spent last week ago today, we talked about Ken Walker
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  Speaker 2: and all that, and that wasn't a factor.
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  Speaker 3: No, and I think the most fascinating thing about that game,
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  Speaker 3: and it's in many ways very reflective of Seattle's defense,
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  Speaker 3: is they did not really play with an eight-man box
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  Speaker 3: to stop. Kenneth Walker. They kept their two safeties in
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  Speaker 3: the two high structure, which is what they are. That's
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  Speaker 3: foundationally who they are. They play with two high safeties.
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  Speaker 3: And they stopped Kenneth Walker for the most part with
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  Speaker 3: seven in the box. And they just dominated up front. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's the way they play. Obviously, we know
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  Speaker 3: that Eamon Worry is just a special player. But this is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this is a team that defensively, they have
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  Speaker 3: a profile. They stick to that profile. Think about this.
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  Speaker 3: They've been one of the highest percentage, two high safety
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  Speaker 3: structure defenses in the NFL, and against the Chiefs, they
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  Speaker 3: played even more than their season average, not less.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Offensively, they ran for 100 yards, at least Emmanuel Wilson
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  Speaker 2: ran for 100 yards exactly, but they were a little
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  Speaker 2: more effective and felt like they used A.J. Barner a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more, the tight end. Obviously, JSN got his,
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  Speaker 2: but offensively, it felt like they, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: they made it easier for Sam Donald. Sam Donald made
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  Speaker 2: it easier for himself, but what did you see on
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  Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they actually ran the ball well in
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  Speaker 3: this game. You know, we saw Wilson have a big game,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously in the fourth quarter he had a lot
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  Speaker 3: of rushes, but I thought, you know, he ran hard.
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  Speaker 3: He's that kind of runner. He's kind of a tough, physical,
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  Speaker 3: downhill competitive runner. He fought in this game for sustaining yards.
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  Speaker 3: He carried six times on the fourth quarter touchdown drive.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously that 21-yard touchdown, you know, put the game
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  Speaker 3: out of reach. I thought, by the way, on that play,
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  Speaker 3: there was a great adjustment by the tight end, off
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  Speaker 3: the down block to turn outside and block the safety
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  Speaker 3: hips kicks. It was just beautifully done. And we again
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  Speaker 3: saw that they've got a pretty good wide receiver. I
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  Speaker 3: think his name is Smith and Jigba. Have you heard
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  Speaker 3: of him? He's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Heard that 11's, heard he's okay. I heard he's okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was interesting because clearly the Chiefs and Steve Spagnuolo
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  Speaker 3: has been doing this a long time. You know, depending
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  Speaker 3: on where he lined up, they bracketed him quite a bit,
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  Speaker 3: but obviously you don't, you don't play the same defense
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  Speaker 3: on every single snap, and he had those two fade
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  Speaker 3: balls against Delane, which would, I mean, you couldn't have
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  Speaker 3: handed him the ball any better. He did get a
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  Speaker 3: step on Delane both times, but those were crazy throws
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  Speaker 3: by Darnold, you know, so, you know, it was one
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  Speaker 3: of those games that was efficient, you know, every week
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  Speaker 3: is different, and sometimes it People don't understand this because
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  Speaker 3: they'll look at a game and go, well, Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 3: wasn't great or they didn't do that. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 3: every week is different. And the idea is to play
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  Speaker 3: that game the way it's demanded to be played. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't have to worry about scoring 45 points in
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  Speaker 3: this game and have Darnold, you know, go 28 for
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  Speaker 3: 35 for 350. The game didn't demand that. So with
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  Speaker 3: the way their defense played, they played the way that
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  Speaker 3: game required.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do this. We're going to get to... the Bears,
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  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks. I'm going to get to Quinton Nelson,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to get to Jeffrey Simmons as well.
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  Speaker 2: Let me take one just step back, too, because, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just the wild week that it was, everything kind of
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  Speaker 2: still comes back connected to us here in Seattle. So
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  Speaker 2: let me get your thoughts on what the 49ers did.
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  Speaker 2: And they brought back DeForest Buckner. And, and that that's
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  Speaker 2: a significant move for their defensive line. At some point
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  Speaker 2: they'll get Bosa back. So, you know, you've watched his
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  Speaker 2: tape over all those years, and I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 2: much Titans you've had to watch this season, but I
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  Speaker 2: know you have, what do the 49ers get into Forrest Buckner?
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  Speaker 3: Well, just so you know, I do Nashville radio. So
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  Speaker 3: I've seen Jeffrey, every Jeffrey Simmons snap, basically going back
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  Speaker 3: to his first season with the team. So I'm well
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  Speaker 3: aware of Jeffrey Simmons. We'll get to that. Um, Buckner
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  Speaker 3: is still a good player. Buckner is very strong against
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  Speaker 3: the run. He's got strong, powerful hands, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: grip strength, very good against double teams, still can rush
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback. I don't think he's quite as good as
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  Speaker 3: he once was, but he still can do that. And
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  Speaker 3: don't forget, they've gotten really good play from their D
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  Speaker 3: tackles this year. So he gets there. He does not
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  Speaker 3: have to play 60 snaps a game, Ian. You know,
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  Speaker 3: now you have a phenomenal rotation because they've gotten really
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  Speaker 3: good play from Odigizua and the rookie Grayson Halton from Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 3: who was a fourth round pick. And even a free
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  Speaker 3: agent named James Thompson was back this week. He had
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  Speaker 3: some dominant snaps and they'll get Bosa back. Then they
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  Speaker 3: have a bye this week. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: Bosa is back the next week. But, you know, they
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  Speaker 3: just have a great rotation. And, you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I had a lot of conversations this offseason with coaches
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  Speaker 3: who said that because so many teams now play out
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  Speaker 3: of a too high safety shell, just like the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 3: that some people believe that D-tackle is the most important
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  Speaker 3: position on your defense. And I'm sure Mike McDonald might
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  Speaker 3: not disagree with that, given Murphy Williams read, you know,
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  Speaker 3: given their rotation at the D tackle position.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say the thing that I find
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  Speaker 2: interesting too, is the different body types that are playing
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  Speaker 2: in the middle. Like you just mentioned two of them
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle or three of them in Seattle. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all three of those guys are different. You know, Leonard
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  Speaker 2: Williams is kind of built like Buckner a little bit more, right.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He's a taller, longer guy. And then you've got guys
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  Speaker 2: like Murphy that are kind of shorter, squattier, Jaron reads
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  Speaker 2: in the middle, but are there comparisons to DeForest Buckner
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  Speaker 2: and Leonard Williams?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just in terms of their length, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's funny. Buckner is– Williams is probably just
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  Speaker 3: a touch just naturally quicker, but Buckner's a very strong player. And, again,
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  Speaker 3: I'm bad with comparisons, but Buckner's a very strong player,
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  Speaker 3: really strong grip strength. I mean, he can really overpower you. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: he's really long. He's 6'7. Williams is not quite that tall.
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  Speaker 3: He's close. um you know i don't see williams can
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  Speaker 3: line up on the edge i'm not sure buckner can
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  Speaker 3: line up on the edge i think they're different players.
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  Speaker 2: Okay let's get to chicago and the bears and uh
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to their cable williams in the offense in
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  Speaker 2: a minute but we'll start on the defense and what
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  Speaker 2: seattle's going to see um they said today earlier the
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  Speaker 2: gm in tennessee expects to see simmons on the field
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  Speaker 2: we would expect that he's you know he got traded
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  Speaker 2: on a on a wednesday i guess it was and
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  Speaker 2: and I mean, they play on Mondays, a defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 2: So away we go. So what are the Bears adding
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  Speaker 2: in Jeffrey Simmons?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I hope people in Seattle still like me after
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  Speaker 3: I say this, but Jeffrey Simmons is the best D-tackle
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL. And he's, I mean, he is just
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  Speaker 3: a dominant, dominant force. He's country strong. He's super quick.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he can dominate games, truly dominate games. And
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  Speaker 3: as you know, with D-tackles, It's not about stats. D
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  Speaker 3: tackles can dominate games and have one tackle. He's really
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  Speaker 3: a good football player and he's really light on his feet.
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  Speaker 3: So he's a good inside pass rusher as well. So
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  Speaker 3: he's just a really good player. Now keep in mind,
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  Speaker 3: the bears have been a very high percentage of blitz
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  Speaker 3: defense up to this point in the season. Their blitz
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  Speaker 3: rate has, I think third or fourth highest in the league.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason Dennis Allen has done that is because
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  Speaker 3: they did not really have a pass rush without being
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  Speaker 3: able to pressure. But the flip side of that is
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  Speaker 3: they've given up a lot of explosive plays in the
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  Speaker 3: past game. So now it'll be interesting to see in
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  Speaker 3: this particular matchup, obviously first game with Jeffrey Simmons, whether
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  Speaker 3: he cuts down on his blitz rate because he feels
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  Speaker 3: he can rush the quarterback with his down four. And
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  Speaker 3: we don't know the answer to that until we see
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  Speaker 3: them play. But they blitzed a lot this season, you know.
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  Speaker 3: relative to the league.
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  Speaker 2: They won't even know that until Monday, right? When they
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  Speaker 2: figure out what they've got in Simmons. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: stay on these two sides of the ball, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: get back to the actual matchup in a second, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm almost buried the lead. Quinton Nelson comes to Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: left guard, and Mike McDonald told us on Thursday he
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  Speaker 2: will be the left guard, and Gray Zabel will move
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  Speaker 2: to the right guard. That's how it's going to be.
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  Speaker 2: I was actually surprised. I mean, I don't think none
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  Speaker 2: of us are surprised that Nelson's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: left guard. I think we were surprised they let us
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  Speaker 2: know that early on that Zabel's in and Bradford goes
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  Speaker 2: to the bench, but that pushed that aside. Quinton Nelson
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  Speaker 2: to Seattle. What does he bring?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just one of those guys. He's a really
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  Speaker 3: good player. Plus he's, you know, you know this, you've
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  Speaker 3: been around football a long time. Offensive linemen are different
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  Speaker 3: and there's a certain culture with offensive linemen, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the way they see things and the cohesion, the way
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  Speaker 3: they work together. And obviously he's not working with these
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  Speaker 3: guys just yet, but But he brings a certain kind
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  Speaker 3: of culture swagger to an offensive line. You know, he's
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  Speaker 3: that kind of player. And he's still a very, very
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  Speaker 3: good player. My question to you is, I would assume
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  Speaker 3: Cross is not going this week.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They'll have Josh Jones as going to be the left tackle.
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  Speaker 2: He told us that yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he's going to play there.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Because, you know, it's funny. For a moment, I thought
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  Speaker 3: that it would be possible that they couldn't move Zabel
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  Speaker 3: out to left tackle for, you know, a week or
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  Speaker 3: two because, you know, he played that in college. You know,
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  Speaker 3: but I guess they're going to keep him and move
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  Speaker 3: him to right guard.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But uh which is probably smart because that's ultimately what's
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  Speaker 3: going to happen you know when because cross will come
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  Speaker 3: back um so uh but yeah nelson is just a
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  Speaker 3: really really good player and it's it's so interesting that
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  Speaker 3: you know you're going to get zabel and and uh
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  Speaker 3: and Nelson going up against Jeffrey Simmons this week, wherever
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  Speaker 3: they decide to line up Jeffrey Simmons.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be fun to watch. With Nelson,
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  Speaker 2: we know he does everything well, right? And one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that they've struggled with this season, obviously, and
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  Speaker 2: I think part of it, this goes all hand-in-hand, right?
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  Speaker 2: It all kind of fits together, is that wide zone
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  Speaker 2: they want to run and all those types of things.
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  Speaker 2: And whether it's they don't have the running backs that
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  Speaker 2: have the juice or maybe the offensive line hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: quite as cohesive as it has been. They've had a rotation.
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  Speaker 2: You know this. Bo Stevens and now the since-departed Christian
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  Speaker 2: Haynes have been playing a lot of right guard with
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  Speaker 2: Bradford out, so they really haven't had that. How much
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  Speaker 2: does what they want to do running the ball change
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  Speaker 2: now that you've got a guy in Gray's Able who
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  Speaker 2: has played on the right side, has played right guard
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  Speaker 2: before in college, and Quentin Nelson coming in playing left guard?
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  Speaker 2: How much does that change what they want to do
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  Speaker 2: running the ball?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I I don't think it changes what they want
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  Speaker 3: to do. I think it makes them better at it
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  Speaker 3: because I think they want to run the ball. My
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  Speaker 3: question to you is when is Judarian Price due back?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he, his practice window opened up and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as we speak right now, we won't know until, you know,
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  Speaker 2: probably late Sunday, whether or not he's going to play Monday,
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  Speaker 2: but he was on the field yesterday. He was practicing.
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  Speaker 2: Same with Charbonnet. So, and Charbonnet was a full participant.
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  Speaker 2: So I would expect Charbonnet at least comes back, but
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  Speaker 2: Price is the guy that they want to run that
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  Speaker 2: wide zone, right? So there's a chance. Mike McDowell did
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  Speaker 2: not close the door on it, so we'll see.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, obviously this is a team that wants
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  Speaker 3: to run the ball because they want to put Darnold
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  Speaker 3: under center. They want to run the play-action pass game.
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  Speaker 3: And you can run play-action without a great run game,
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  Speaker 3: but the point is it just is a better feel
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  Speaker 3: to play action when you have a good run game,
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  Speaker 3: even though it's been proven over and over that there's
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  Speaker 3: not a strict correlation between between running well and play action,
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  Speaker 3: you still like to be able to run the ball
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  Speaker 3: well and just have play action feels better. So that's
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  Speaker 3: the way they want to play, Ian. So they'll just
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  Speaker 3: be better at it. I mean, look, you have to
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  Speaker 3: give Emmanuel Wilson a ton of credit. You know, Emmanuel Wilson,
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  Speaker 3: no one would view him as a feature back in
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  Speaker 3: the league, even with what he's done in Seattle. I
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  Speaker 3: guess he's had two 100-yard games. He's been physical. He's
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  Speaker 3: been a grinder. He's been a sustainer. He's competitive. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you don't want him as your feature back
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  Speaker 3: for 17 games. So now... Price will come back. He
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  Speaker 3: was drafted to be the feature back. Charbonnet is clearly
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  Speaker 3: viewed as a really good second back. But with what
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  Speaker 3: Wilson has done, he obviously deserves snaps. The guy who's
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  Speaker 3: probably kind of left out in all this, I would think,
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  Speaker 3: could be George Helani because Charbonnet is going to play
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  Speaker 3: on third down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. It's Greg Cosell joining us.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the secondary. If Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 2: and Jackson Smith and Jigba and company want to get
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  Speaker 2: things going, we're not sure about Rashid Shaheed. He's banged
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  Speaker 2: up a little bit right now, so we'll wait and see.
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  Speaker 2: But let's just talk about it. It sounds like if
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  Speaker 2: you're going to do some damage against that Bears defense,
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  Speaker 2: if you're able to protect Sam Darnold, you can do
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  Speaker 2: it against that secondary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can. They've given up a lot of explosive plays. Now,
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  Speaker 3: don't forget. some of those plays come because of the
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  Speaker 3: pressure and the blitzing. So, you know, when you blitz
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  Speaker 3: with bodies, you have fewer bodies in coverage, so you
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  Speaker 3: compromise your coverage. So keep that in mind. It's very
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  Speaker 3: possible they could cut down, and we don't know what
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  Speaker 3: Dennis Allen will do, and he's one of the best
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  Speaker 3: in the league as a D coordinator, so we don't
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  Speaker 3: know what he'll do. But if he decides to rush
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  Speaker 3: with four, let's say, and play seven in coverage, then
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  Speaker 3: the big plays certainly might not be there because the
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  Speaker 3: numbers game works then in his favor. But when you
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  Speaker 3: start bringing extra people, the numbers game does not work
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  Speaker 3: in your favor, and they've given up a lot of
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  Speaker 3: big plays this year. I think they've given up the
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  Speaker 3: third or fourth most explosive pass plays of any defense
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  Speaker 3: in the league. So we'll see if tactically the defense
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  Speaker 3: changes with the addition of Simmons.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell with us. Let's slip to the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the ball. Seahawks took care of business against Kansas
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  Speaker 2: City on Sunday Night Football. Monday Night Football, another good offense,
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  Speaker 2: another great quarterback. And I'm sure you're going to tell
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  Speaker 2: me that it's a different different challenge this week than
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  Speaker 2: they had against Kansas City.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what? I mean, Caleb Williams is really
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  Speaker 3: improving dramatically. The thing that I like about him, you know,
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  Speaker 3: is and I've used this term this week. I actually
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  Speaker 3: did a piece in the matchup show. He has arm arrogance.
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  Speaker 3: He is willing to turn it loose. And the thing is,
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  Speaker 3: when you play against zone and he's going to get
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  Speaker 3: high percentage zone with Seattle and a lot of too
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  Speaker 3: high safety shell, as we discussed, you have to be
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  Speaker 3: willing to make tight window throws. He is more than
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  Speaker 3: willing to do that. Now, he'll miss a few on
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  Speaker 3: occasion for any number of reasons. Always hard to know
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  Speaker 3: when a quarterback misses a few, but he can make
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: big time throws and he sees almost every throw as
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: a viable throw. I've talked about that a lot over
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: the years. You know, there's no statistic with all the
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: the analytics and all of them, you know, the metrics
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: we have now, there's still no real statistic for balls
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: that should be thrown that aren't thrown. And he doesn't
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: have a problem with that. He's going to turn it loose.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: And he, and he, they work between the numbers really,
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: really well. You'll see a lot of those kinds of throws.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: And obviously they've got good players. You know, Luther Burton
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: was one of my favorite receivers when he came out
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: of college. He was a second round pick for apparently
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: other reasons aside, other than football. I don't get into that,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: as you know, but that's what I heard from people,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: but he's a really dynamic player. And he's someone you
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: got to be careful with because he, he can run
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: routes at all three levels and he's really good with
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: the ball in his hands.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: And they use Colston Loveland a lot, right? The tight
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: end as well.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: He can split out. I mean, he's obviously they lost
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Cole commit for the year. So, you know, they played
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: a lot at a 13 personnel. We'll see if that,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure they have another tight end on
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: the roster, but, I don't know who that is off
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: the top of my head or whether they go away
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: from that, but they still will play a lot of
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: 12 personnel with two tight ends.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: What's happened to Roma Dunze? He hasn't put up the
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: numbers that we thought he would coming out of Washington
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: out here.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny you say that because I kind of,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: this past summer, I kind of did a deep dive
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: on Williams and their pass game. And I think Dunze's solid,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: but I felt after I watched a lot of the
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Bears pass game, I'm not sure he's a great separator
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: at the top of his route step. I think he's
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: a big receiver with good hands. He can make contested catches.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: He can make tough catches. I just don't know. He
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: strikes me as more smooth and fluid than Sutton, and
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: at times he struggles to separate.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Their run game, Greg, at least statistically, looks really good.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: It's very good. Yeah, and sometimes you wonder on paper,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: is it on paper that it looks good? Is it
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: just the fact that you have a quarterback that is
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: a running quarterback? Or maybe a combination thereof, and DeAndre
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Swift pretty good too.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they've got a very good O-line, particularly
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: the right side. Jackson, right guard, right tackle. are phenomenal
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: run blockers that's where they do most of their dirty
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: work in the run game into the right side of
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: the offensive line right is a terrific run blocker now
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: they're obviously playing against a very good d line we'll
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: see how it plays out as you know they've not
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: given up a 100 yard rusher in something like 37
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: games yeah some number like that um you know and
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: they're just really really i mean this this defense is
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: really really good they're so good up front and you
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: know It's really interesting how I've always believed, we talked
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: about this when Okada had to play and now he's
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: a starter, but we talked about it last year when
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: he wasn't a starter, that when you put in backups,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: and I'm mentioning this because of Knight, the linebacker, and
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: they really play at a high level. To me, that's coaching.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: That tells you how guys are coached, how they take
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: the coaching, because they play the right way. Because I
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: think Knight has played very well the last two weeks.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know your thoughts, you know, what they say
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: about him, but I think he's played well.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: He has, uh, Drake Thomas is back at practice. He,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: he looks like he'll be ready to go, but I mean,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: that's a good problem to have. I mean, they can
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: use night because right. They can use night in a
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: variety of ways, right? And that's, they can do that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, they can switch back and forth in the,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: in a, in a, if they want to play a
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: true base defense, you know, if they want to, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: with a five, two or a four, three, I mean,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: if they want to, they can switch back and forth,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: you know, uh, And that gives, you know, Eamon Worre
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: even more versatility if you want to make him, you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: kind of a true safety if you want to decide
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: to play a little more single high. You know, there's
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: all kinds of options. And as the season progresses, any season,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: you know that coaches make slight tweaks, slight adjustments, you know,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: depending on opponents. You know, so you never know. When
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: you have someone like Eamon Worre, you have a lot
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: of options.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Our friend Hugh Millen calls Eamon Worre crazy. He says
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: his position is SINO, S-I-N-O, safety in name only, is
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: what he says. Yeah, I mean, they use.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Him in so many ways. I mean, he's just a
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: really good player. I mean, what can you do?
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Well, let me talk about him for a second, especially
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: if Knight and Thomas, and you have Eamon Worry, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: What about the Eamon Worry matchup versus Caleb Williams? Because
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, there's different types of fast quarterbacks in the NFL, right?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: There's guys that are elusive. There's guys that are sprinter speed.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: There are guys that are small. They're big, what have you.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, with his feet and the ball in his hands,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: seems to be a big part of what they can
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and will do, and that's a scary thing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: He's not an explosive athlete in terms of straight-line running speed,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: but he's very strong. He can shake off pressure at times.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: And get away from it. And that's what he does really,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: really well. And he can throw it exceptionally well on
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: the run. And with velocity and with distance. So you
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: have to be careful when he gets out of the pocket.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: But Eamon Worry, I mean, the play that struck me
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: last week.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I know where you're going.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Was when he ran stride for stride with Worthy on
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: the slot feed in the third quarter. I mean, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: that's the kind of play where you just go, you know, wow,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: that's pretty good. You know, I mean, you know, he's
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: a safety. He's six, three and a half or so defensively. 220,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: and he runs stride for stride with Worthy.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, I was going to say, Greg,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: was there one play that stuck out last week with
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: him and Ward? Because we talked about it, everyone talked
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: about it all week. When I'm watching it, you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and I'll be honest with you, it's a Sunday night
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, it's 530, I got a few pops in me,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just enjoying myself, and I'm watching with
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: my son, who played football, and we're watching, and they
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: show that low-angle replay, and it's like, that's a sprinter
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: speed guy in Xavier Worthy, and that's a 6'4, 225,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: whatever he is safety linebacker running. Like that's one of
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: those wow moments. Like you watch a zillion hours of
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: tape every year. That's one of those things you'll probably remember.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: And I didn't see it live because it was third quarter.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: So I had gone to bed because on Monday mornings
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I'm in the office at five 10. So I didn't
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: see it live. And then I'm watching the tape and
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, that's, you know, that's pretty good.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: When Greg Cosell says, wow, that is a compliment. I'm
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: going to tell you that right now. When Greg Cosell
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: throws that out there, that's a big time compliment at
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: that point.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's, you know, it's funny, just a very quick anecdote.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I know we're probably getting short here, but I remember
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: seeing Emanuari when he was a freshman at South Carolina
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: because they had two or three guys on that defense
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: who were coming out in the draft. So I was
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: watching South Carolina's defense and, you know, doing my sheet
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: on the other guys. And I'm noticing this safety. And
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I said, who is this guy? You know, figured maybe
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: he's a sophomore or whatever, you know. And I looked
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: him up and he was a true freshman. And I was,
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I just made a note to myself, this guy is
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: going to be a player. And, you know, it turned
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: out to be that way.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: And then you add that into the Mike McDonald mix,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the mad scientist that is Mike McDonald. What a great
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: coaching matchup, right? McDonald versus Ben Johnson on Sunday night
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: or Monday night too.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a fascinating game. And now that you
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: have the Quentin Nelson, Jeffrey Simmons sort of, and you
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: know me, I don't deal in narratives and storylines, but
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is a good one.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: We look forward to it. We'll talk about it next
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Friday and we'll wrap it up then. Thank you, sir.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Have a great week and we'll talk to you soon.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: All right, thanks, Ian.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell, the great Greg Cosell. Always great having him
• 21:54
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• 21:55
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• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I'm doing well. What's up, Ian?
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: How are you doing?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I'm good. We missed you the last little while, but
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: good to have you back on. We'll get to sports
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: in a second. I loved your column today. This is
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the kind of fun stuff. Yeah, you'll get mostly sports,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: but every now and then an insight into, I don't know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: real life and sometimes real life in New York City.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Tell us, before we go into the kind of the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: cool part of the story, you have a car. Not
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: everybody in New York has a car. You guys have
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a car. What's the challenge you have parking your car?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Is it once a week?
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: It's two times per week.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: We are what are called alternate side parkers, which means
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: we park on the street, which in our neighborhood is free.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: But twice a week, the street cleaners come by.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: And now in most cities, you would just evacuate that
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: side of the street for the 90 minutes that street
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: cleaning is allotted. Because parking is set at such a premium.
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: What you do is you go out and sit.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: In your car.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: And when the street sweeper comes by, you pull over
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: to the other side of the street, let the street
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: sweeper go past. So you can then scramble back to
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: the spot you were in before. So I do that
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: twice a week because the alternative is to get a
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: garage and a garage, like having a garage spot in
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: our neighborhood is it's, it's north of $ 750 a month.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: That's no good. Uh, I, I bring it.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: So parking, parking is my highest, it's my highest paying gig.
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: I guess it's my, the parking job I do is
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: my best paid gig.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. I get, you know what? I
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: was going to complain about my parking situation later today
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: when I go do cracking TV. Cause I'm, I'm, I'm
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: literally looking outside. It wasn't supposed to be raining this
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: late in the day. And I have where we have
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: our studios now, little place called the big 10 studio network, uh,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: network studios at UW. for cracking uh it's a hike
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: from where they have us parking to get in and
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: when you are supposed to be as they say television
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: ready carrying a suit all those things rain's not our
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: friend i'm not going to complain about that again as
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: i look outside seeing the rain i'll figure something out
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: it's way better than sitting in my car for 90
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: minutes uh twice i mean that's just brutal danny i
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: can't imagine that that those are the little things that
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: we take for granted here in seattle.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: It's not bad. It turns out that I can write
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: really effectively in there. Okay. I can just sit in
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: my car. It's not terrible. It's not as bad as
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: you think.
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: And sometimes you see a little bit of street theater,
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: which is what happened yesterday morning. I watched as a
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: guy who was essentially the block over from me, but
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: I was staring straight at him.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: He hit a bike that was on a pole.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: As he was backing up to vacate for the street
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: sweeper to come by, he hit a bike. Because of
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: the way, like when he pulled forward, the tires, the
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: bike tire hitting the car tire, the bike spun around
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: the pole it was locked to. It wasn't destroyed, but
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: it looked like the bike was a little worse for wear.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: And so I watched all this happen. And then you wonder, okay, well, what's, what's,
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: is the guy going to drive off? Is he going
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: to leave a note? And what happened was the guy
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: that owned the bike came out. I don't think he
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: saw what had happened. He was coming out to resume
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: his journey to wherever he was going. And they started,
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: it looked like arguing. There was gesturing going on. There
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: wasn't pointing or anything like that. And I decided that
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: because I had witnessed the actual, it wasn't a collision,
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: but the torquing of the bike, that I would go
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: see if my information could diffuse the situation. I walked
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: over there and the guy who was driving the car,
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: I said, is everything okay?
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, I hit his bike a little bit.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: He's a little frustrated. We're fine. Went back to my car.
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: They continued debating, gesturing for another two or three minutes.
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: And the guy that owned the car popped the trunk
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: on his hatchback. The two of them loaded the bike
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: into his hatchback. The guy that was the bike owner
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: then got in the passenger seat and the two of
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: them drove off in the same car, presumably to have
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: the bike fixed.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: And I found this I found this legitimately uplifting and inspiring.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: For one, I live in a city that, New York is,
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: it's not the nicest place. Like, there's an edge to
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: this city. You have to have a protective shell. And
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: there's a sort of dog-eat-dog world. I've always said, like,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: it's interesting to live in a place that you know
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: just doesn't give a crap about you. And to see
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: a little bit of camaraderie was nice.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: It was welcome.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: It made me feel that if I did fall into
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: a gutter here and couldn't get up, somebody might stop
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: to help me.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: And then the second part, though, is watching people.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: Resolve conflict like adults is something that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: The internet has certainly hurt this.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: It's impacted our ability because people just want to get
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: mad online.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: And.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: Getting mad is an understandable reaction. It's understandable that the
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: guy whose bike got hit by the car would be
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: angry and would be like, what the hell, man? You
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: wrecked my bike. That's a human reaction. But a lot
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: of times, the venting of the anger isn't a solution
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: to the problem. It's It might feel better for a
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: second to release some of the anger you have, but
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: even if you're pointing and yelling at someone, that doesn't
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: get to the solution. And on the other side, the
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: guy who did it, he wants to find some sort
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: of fix, but there's a limit. He could have just
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: completely abdicated. But watching them, one guy that could have
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: left but stayed, and another guy who could have stayed mad,
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: but kind of calmed down and they worked their way
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: to look, it's a crappy situation. Both of them are inconvenienced.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: Nobody wanted this to happen, but it wasn't deliberate.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: And they drove off presumably to the, to the bike shop.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: Now I've looked around the neighborhood to try and find
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: the car again, because I want to talk to the
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: guy and find out what happened, but I found it
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: a little like, I have, I have a little bit
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: of hope for our species.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Ian.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I do too. And I, I, because today, like I,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I think I'm thinking of the NFL. It
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: feels like every Sunday night, Monday morning, all across social media,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: you see pictures posted of all the fights in NFL stadiums. And,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you know, like conflicts that probably one guy says something,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the other guy says something. I accidentally spilled something on you.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Next thing you know, punches being thrown, what have you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And it's just like we live in this world where
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: it feels like it feels as if we live in
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: a world now where there is absolutely no middle ground.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: There's no humanities taking a step backwards. So I like that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed that story today.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: I found it to be quite touching because the goal
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: should be, look, we're all going to get hurt. Like
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: we're all going to have our feelings hurt. We're all
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: going to suffer actual tangible losses, whether it's people we know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: relationships we have, like it is impossible.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: To go through life without suffering harm.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: And when we do suffer harm, It is natural to
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: feel angry about that, to feel resentful, even to vent
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: or feel victimized. But that's not the solution to it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: That shouldn't be the endpoint. And ascribing blame to who
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: hurt you, I'm not going to say that's wrong because
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: there are times, especially if someone won't take accountability.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: For it, that it can be an important step. But
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: that's not a solution. Like, it really isn't.
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: And we're much better off if we can sort of
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: listen and think about where the other person's coming from
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: and find a mutually agreeable solution.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Good stuff. Danny O'Neill joining us. You can get that
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: when you subscribe. We'll tell you at the end how
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: to do it. What did you think of the Seattle Seahawks?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Week that was. They start off the week on a
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: late Sunday night football game, 8.30 for your time back there,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: with just an absolute whooping of the old Kansas City
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Chiefs and Ken Walker. And John Schneider says, that was cool.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: But 48 hours later, he says, I'm not done yet.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go get the best offensive lineman that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I can find and quit Nelson.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the performance ranks up there with the
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: best games that the Legion of Boom put up.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Like, that was a Pantheon game.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: That was a frame it, remember where it was. It
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: was like the Monday night game against the Saints. The
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Super Bowl against the Broncos is different because of the
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: magnitude of the game. But one of those whoopings of
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: the San Francisco 49ers, you pick whether it was week,
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: the second, it would have been two games. Second to
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: last game of the season in 2012 when they just
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: brutalized them. Or week two, 2013 when they put a
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: thumping on them in the second half. This was a
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: dominant performance. And then, look, man, there are things that
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: John Schneider does that I know can drive people crazy.
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: There are other things that John Schneider consistently does that
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: everybody should celebrate. And his willingness to spend draft picks
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: to get guys in the middle of the season should
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: be one of those things that everybody trips over themselves
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: thanking him for. Because whether it was Marshawn Lynch or
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: whether it is, it's Leonard Williams, Dwayne Brown.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: You go through the guys that they have added mid-season.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: The closest thing you can come to a miss, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: I would argue it wasn't a miss at all, is
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: Carlos Dunlap. When they add guys in the middle of
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: the season, last year was Rashid Shaheed.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: It makes a huge difference.
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: And look, they have significantly improved what was the weakest
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: spot on their roster, which is Riker. Because now you
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: have Gray Zabel moving over there. And going from having
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: a problem at a position to having a solution is
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: a huge difference, especially on the offensive line.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I found the one. I found the one, too. Because
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I think Dunlop was serviceable, right, at the time. But
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: there was another one, and I forgot about this. And
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I was just looking back through. Remember Roy Robertson-Harris?
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I do.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: The defensive lineman that they brought in briefly. Yeah, that
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: didn't work out. But that was a desperation move. That
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't a, I would say, almost a stop. Maybe not desperation,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: more of a stopgap. It wasn't a significant move, and
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I think it was a late pick. It wasn't like these.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: They were just so decimated on the defensive line that
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: he brought that guy in. They didn't re-sign him. But yeah,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: you look through four years in a row. They've hammered
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: a guy that's... Now, I'll tell you this, Danny. It
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: was an interesting dynamic yesterday, and maybe they'll tell me
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I'm full of it, and I hope I am. Maybe
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it's just his personality. Quentin Nelson was somewhat subdued when
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: he was at the podium. And it didn't sound like
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: he was really consulted before they made the trade. In
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: the NFL, you don't have to do that. A lot
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: of other sports, they've got no trade clauses, worked into
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: deals and things like that, and they're cooked and baked
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: into those things. But in this case, that wasn't what
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: was going on. He was up there and he's like, yeah,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't really know. My wife's staying in Indianapolis. And
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: just the overall tone was like, I don't want to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: say he was disappointed. I think he was just still
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: trying to process it. Because my initial thought was what
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you just said. When they do these deals, there's certainly
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: a plan, and I'm sure there is, but not only
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: a plan, but probably some conversation that took place in
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: some backdoor channels to re-sign the guy. And I don't
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: know if that happened with Quentin Nelson. Hard to tell.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's just his demeanor, which is what you want.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You want an offensive lineman that's kind of mad at
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the world. But it was a little bit different than
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I thought it would be, the tone at least.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough.
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: It's... I think it's different for him because he was
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: such a mainstay in Indianapolis. And that's the same state
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: he'd gone coming from where he went to college, having
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: gone to Notre Dame, being there. That might make it
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: a little tougher, the idea of a transition. But I
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: also think that one of the benefits you've seen is
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: when guys come to Seattle, by and large, especially veterans,
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: they really like playing there.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: Jadavion Clowney didn't. He came, he was kind of one
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: and done after they traded him. Seattle wanted to bring
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: him back, and he kind of doesn't like off-season training.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: But for the most part.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of isn't the word, Danny. He doesn't like
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: off-season training. That's a kind way to put it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: He just doesn't. He's like, I am on the school
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: teacher schedule. September is not even the school teacher. I'm
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: on a half year. I go one quarter, September to December.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: That's all you're getting me for.
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: Um, but with, so, but I think it's that, that
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: idea of having a transition and getting used to a
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: new place. And all of a sudden he's at a
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: team that is in a different part of the country
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: and his wife is staying back.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: That's a lot. That's a lot to, to kind of
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: bounce on the fly.
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: In terms of his performance, the fact that he is
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: in a contract year is going to, he's got every
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: incentive to go out there and just be the butt
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: kicker that he's been. And I think that sometimes just that,
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: that upgrade that comes there, there's a thought that, that
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: defensive line and the offensive line and the secondary are
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: what are called weak link positions.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: In that your group is as strong as the weakest link.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: Because when you've got somebody that's deficient, that person can
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: be pinpointed and targeted. And, and it's clear, it's clear.
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: Secondary is that way. And, and I think offensive line
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: can be too. And, and they did this move addresses
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: their biggest weakness. And if everything goes, how everyone hopes
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: they're quitting, quitting Nelson should fall in love with this.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And I think that, I think like John Benton is
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: so highly thought of the offensive line coach by all
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: the guys. that are in that group. Like they just
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: rave about him. And I think it's also safe to
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: say that when you look at, you know, Mike McDonald,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: the culture they've built there, you mentioned it, you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: what John Schneider's built there. Leonard Williams addressed that actually
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: today in his media availability. So yeah, I think that'll
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: be it. Danny, before I let you go, Danny O'Neill
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: joining us, weekly visit. Big thanks to Northwest Handling Systems.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: They bring us Danny O'Neill every week. Danny, the Huskies
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: play at Nebraska tomorrow. And we were bringing this up earlier.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of storylines. I'll get more of the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: deeper college football storylines as the days go on. But
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: everyone that has anything remotely to do with Washington football
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: has had their say. I'll let you have your say.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: There's a decision that Jed Fish, I'm sure he's already
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: made it. I don't think that's even a debate. He's
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: made the decision. Who starts at quarterback or do they
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: split time? What do they do? Is it DeMond, the
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: $ 4 million man that they, you know, basically, I'm going
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: to say this and I don't want people to get,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: They basically forced him to stay. He wanted to leave,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: and they held him to his contract that he sold. Oh, yeah.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: You don't have to qualify that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: That's the truism.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And they're paying him $ 4 million, or someone's paying him
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: $ 4 million, or Elijah Brown, who, by the way, is
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: not playing for free. He transferred from Stanford. Okay, so
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: let's make that perfectly clear. I don't know what he's making.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: We don't know. I'm sure somebody knows. Maybe Softy will
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: text me and go, hey, he's making $ 100, 000.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: But he's making something. He didn't leave Stanford, an ACC school,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: not a group of six school. He didn't leave Stanford.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: And wait for it. It's Stanford. He didn't leave that
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: for free, but he ain't making $ 4 million. So Jed's
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: made his decision. What should Jed do?
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Jed should start Elijah Brown.
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: And if Jed doesn't start Elijah Brown in this game,
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: that is going to be supremely disappointing to me because
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: all of the data you have at this point points
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: to that the offense ticked up immediately. immediately once he
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: stepped into the game. I don't know if Elijah can
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: handle being the long-term starter. I don't know if he's
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: the guy that you are happy to have going into
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: next year. The three turnovers that he committed against Purdue
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: were somewhat concerning. Like that's not, that's not going to
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: be sustainable against, certainly not against a defense like Nebraska's,
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: but it's very clear all data points that, sort of
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: steer toward the reason that this offense has been so
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: frustrating has been the play of the quarterback i don't
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: have any reservations about how jed has handled it i
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: don't want or need him to make any declaration if
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: he spends the next three weeks saying hey it's just
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: a matter of DeMond getting healthy and we're waiting until
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: he's 100% healthy and we don't ever get any clarity
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: on it, I'm fine with that. But until Elijah Brown's
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: performance gives you some reason to think that he shouldn't
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: be the starting quarterback for this team, he should be
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: the starting quarterback going forward.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: I don't care how much anybody's making.
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: I don't care what sort of commitments or or sort
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: of pledges people think that they've made, the results point
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: to him being the best quarterback for this team right now,
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: and he should play.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: You know, with Elijah Brown, you know, his sample size
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: before Washington is limited. He played nine total games for Stanford.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: In those nine games, six touchdowns and five interceptions. And
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: with Washington, seven touchdowns and three interceptions, I think you
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: can put a little asterisk next to the one touchdown
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: that came as time expired in garbage, truly football garbage
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: time against Iowa. But nevertheless, look, You know, 13 touchdowns
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: and eight interceptions in his career. But he's completing 74%
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: of his passes with the Huskies. The turnovers are a problem.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: It kind of feels like a Sam Darnold situation here.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: It's yes or no, a touchdown or interception, one or
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the other. What are you going to hit us with? But, yeah,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: that's the question. And I think it's– to me, it's
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: sort of a litmus test for college football, Danny. Like,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I think Washington– I think the rest of college football–
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: is probably has a little bit, you know, if truth
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: be told, maybe not the national pundits that only care
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: about five or six schools, but I think if your
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: coaches and administrators, boosters, what have you across the country,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I think Washington is an interesting litmus test this weekend.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: What does Jed Fish do? Because it's not, now they've
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: kind of had that issue down at Cal with JKS
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: with their talented sophomore quarterback, although he's been hurt. So
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: it's been, and kind of like DeMond, he's been hurt.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: So you kind of use that as an excuse at times.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: but what do you do with the high, any other
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: position really doesn't matter, but what do you do with
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the high price quarterback that you have committed to? And
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: all this kind of, what do you do with him?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of schools and probably
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of people across the country that are probably
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: quietly keeping an eye on this.
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: As a football coach, you run into huge problems when
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: you start letting status and that can be draft status.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: It can be salary or it can be perception.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: Of how a player is when you start letting status
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: and not performance dictate playing time. Now, the one time
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: you can get away with it is when you're talking
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: about someone being a young player who you have to
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: grow with and, Hey, we're going to take some bumps
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: in the road, but that requires some messaging from the
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: coach to get everybody to understand the situation. This is not,
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: Jed fish did not build this bill, this as a
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: rebuilding year. And when you start playing guys. and the
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: decision appears to be based on status as opposed to
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: actual performance, you run into real problems.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: The measurement has to be.
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: And that's especially true in college football, where it's essentially
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: year-to-year contracts at this point. It has to be on
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: how are you able to play for my team right now.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: That's who should be getting the playing time.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: That's what should happen.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: That's what should happen. There's a lot of things, Danny,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: you've covered college football. There's a lot of things in
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: college football that should happen. That should happen.
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: I will quote the Simpsons now.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: In theory, even communism.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: Works.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Lots of things work in theory.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I think someone at the Seattle City Council just heard
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: you and said, yeah, damn right it does.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Or socialism. Don't give them any ideas.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: Wait.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Cue the angry text.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: What am I doing to myself on a Friday? Why
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: did I say that out loud? Sometimes you just need
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: to stop. Okay. Danny, tell people about the dang apostrophe, sir.
• 43:18
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• 43:20
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• 43:21
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• 43:36
  Speaker 4: And the Bears.
• 43:38
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• 43:40
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• 43:43
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• 43:44
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 43:46
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• 43:49
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• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I love it. Talk to you next week, my friend.
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• 43:53
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• 44:03
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• 44:04
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• 44:07
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• 44:46
  Speaker 1: As part of our never-ending coverage of the NFL, it's
• 44:49
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  Speaker 2: Rob Rang is here talking all things college football weekend,
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  Speaker 2: especially as it relates to the draft. But Rob also,
• 45:20
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• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Robert Turbin, and our buddy Corbin Smith. Talks NFL all
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the time. We'll get to that. Rob, I don't know
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: if you know, there's a couple things happening in the
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: NFL the last couple days. Have you seen any of
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: that stuff?
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Certainly have. There's been some massive trades here with the Seahawks,
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: Quentin Nelson, and the Bears, and Jeffrey Simmons. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: There's been a few things before I get to this
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: on a personal note, I want to mention this because
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: our friend Rob rang, of course, foxsports.com. And I should
• 45:51
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• 45:53
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• 45:55
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• 45:57
  Speaker 2: of the segment today and folks can go check that out. Uh,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: so Rob does that. He's been our draft insider since
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: him and I met about almost 20 years ago, right
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: here at the, uh, well actually at the old Northwest
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: college is where we first met. But, uh, You know, it's,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: so we've known each other forever. He's our, he comes in,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: he does all our draft analysis pre and then during
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the draft, our great coverage that we do for our
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: three-day extravaganza, but also works for the BC Lions of
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: the Canadian Football League. You guys have a playoff game
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: this weekend, right?
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: We do.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: Massive football game against, massive playoff game, the West Semifinals
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: against the Saskatchewan Rough Riders, the They're defending champions, which
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: makes me want to vomit to even say that because
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: they're the team that knocked us out of the playoffs
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: last year. And we're hoping to exact a little bit
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: of revenge on Saturday at 1.30.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: There's some familiar names, right, that play for you guys?
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: There certainly are. These are not players that they actually
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: made the Seahawks roster. Otherwise, they wouldn't be members of
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: the BC Lions. But they were on Seattle's rookie roster, essentially.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: Rookie minicamps and things of that nature. Jonah Tavai, Deontay Williams,
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: Levi Bell. That's one of the opportunities I get is
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: to evaluate players in different NFL camps. And I tried
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: to lure them north, and they have become three superstars
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: for us. So really excited about that. We have a
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: real candidate in for the CFL Defensive Rookie of the
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: Year in Parker McKenna. Of course, he led the Cougars
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: in tackles a couple years ago, or last year, for
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: Washington State. So excited about that. And then DeMond Williams.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: We talk so much about DeMond. You know, if he
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: does not have a future in college football or in
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: the NFL, and I say a big if because he's
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: a very talented player, but I certainly think that he
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: would fit in very nicely in the wide open fields
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: of the Canadian Football League. So he is on our
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: negotiation list. which basically means that we have his rights
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: if he were decided to make himself eligible for the CFL.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: So very excited about all the local prospects that might
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: wind up being players for the BC Lions.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to get to the NFL stuff
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: because this is something you can help us out with
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: a little bit. and he's going to play left guard,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: and Mike McDonald told us on Thursday he is the
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: left guard, and they're moving Gray Zabel to the right guard. Now,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Zabel played all over the line in college. He's in
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: his second year in the NFL, first-round pick. We spent
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of time talking about him pre-draft, also post-draft. Rob, you,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I think, got a look as well, senior bowl stuff.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: He played some center, but they're going to put him
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: at right guard, and Mike McDonald did confirm that Thursday. Actually,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: a little surprised he did, but Let's talk about Gray Zabel.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: We know what Quentin Nelson is. He's the best in
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: the biz. He'll play left guard. He'll go to Canton,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Ohio someday. Gray Zabel at right guard. What do you think?
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm intrigued by it. A lot of times the
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: right guard, the strong side position in a lot of
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: formations is a bigger body kind of guy. And obviously
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: you are losing some just flattened girth when you're going
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: from Anthony Bradford, who's going to be on the sideline, basically,
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: in this scenario. Graves Abel's quickness is going to give
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: Seattle an advantage on that right side, but they're not
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: going to lose some of that knockback power that Anthony
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Bradford provides.
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: So I think that this is an interesting experiment.
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: I think it's one that could pay off hugely. I
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: think it's the most logical route for Seattle to take.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: And I think that Graves Abel did a great job
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: as a rookie. I think that his play has kind
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: of taken a little bit of a step back this
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: season so far.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: I do think that it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: Was better against the Seahawks. in this past week. But
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: at the same time, I also think that it is
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: going to take a little bit of acclimation going back
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: to the right side. I just ask a lot of
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: our listeners, and thank you so much to all of
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: our listeners for all the support. But if you haven't
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: played football, you haven't played on the opposite side of
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: an offensive line, just try writing with your opposite hand.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: That gives you a little bit of an idea. You
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: can probably do it, but it's not going to be
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: quite as legible as it would be if you're using
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: your normal hand, your dominant hand. And so Gray Zabel
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: is going to be successful in this regard. I think
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: that they're going to see a significant uptick in success
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: in the wide zone type of blocking. That was one
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: of the things that Anthony Bradford struggled with in this
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: past game against Kansas City. He was able to move
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: people at the line of scrimmage, but he really struggled
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: to get to those linebackers in space. That's something that
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: really is Gray Zabel's, one of his best assets. So
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: I think you'll see Seattle take full advantage of the
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: greater athletic ability, but there's also going to be some
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: times where he's going to get knocked back a little
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: bit by some of the bigger guys he's going to
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: be facing on that side of the line.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: All right. So, which is an interesting dynamic along the way.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about what else happened. Jeffrey Simmons goes to Chicago.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: We're going to see those guys on Monday night. He's
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: as good as there is right in the interior of
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the NFL.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: No question about it, Ian. This is a significant move
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: here by the Chicago Bears. I would have loved for
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: it to happen a week later. Seattle didn't have to
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: deal with this guy. He is an absolute monster. You know,
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: as just a football scout, as a talent evaluator, I
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: love the fact that you're going to see Quentin Nelson
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: and Jeffrey Simmons here going head-to-head. Now, of course, they've
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: done that in the past. Nelson was a member of
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: the Colts and Simmons was a member of the Titans.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: They played a couple of times a year. But now
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: we're going to get... to you up close and personal
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: here in Seattle on Monday Night Football. I'm sure the
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: camera's going to be focused on just the sheer power
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: of both of these two players going at it. You
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: mentioned Turbo and our locked on or excuse me, our
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: triple option podcast that we've been doing just in yesterday's show.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: You know, we, we talked about the fact that this
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: was a, you know, kind of like a heavyweight battle.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is like, you know, Vander Holyfield or
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Mike Tyson or, or George Foreman or whoever you want
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: to mention. I mean, these are going to be two
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: powerful men just slugging it out. I think it's going to,
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: for those willing to take their eyes off the football
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: a little bit and just focus in on the, on
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: the power and technique that make up the line and scrimmage,
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: this is about as good as it gets.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: DeForest Buckner goes back to San Francisco, and that's also
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: an upgrade for the 49ers, isn't it?
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: No question about it. The 49ers are already a pretty
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: talented defensive line. I mean, they gave Seattle, frankly, more
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: than they could handle the 49ers winning that game, and
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: I think a big part of it was their ability
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: to push Seattle's offensive line around a little bit. One
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: of the biggest reasons why John Schneider decided to make
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: the big trade for Quentin Nelson was DeForest Buckner has
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: been an awfully good player for an awfully long time.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: He's similar in size and style as Seattle's Leonard Williams.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's quite as good as Big Cat.
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's a defensive tackle in the NFL
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: who is quite as versatile as Leonard Williams, but this
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: is a significant upgrade for San Francisco, and he's going
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: to make that round two matchup between Seattle and San
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Francisco that much more compelling.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Rob, before I get to the games this weekend, I
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: do want to get to some of the news from
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: the last week. And along the lines of that news,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: that would be Dante Moore is out for the season.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: We talk a lot about him this season, talk about
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks a lot on this show every week, brought
• 53:30
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• 53:33
  Speaker 2: you think, has Dante Moore's draft stock slipped? He hasn't
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: played a lot of football, whatever the injury, sounds like
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: it's just a concussion, full recovery, all those things. What
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: are you hearing in scouting circles about Dante Moore?
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: You know, it's unfortunate that I have to use the
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: word slip here to talk about Dante Moore, just because
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: of the fact that, you know, I think there was
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: such expectation that he was going to take that next step.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: And he just hasn't taken that next step. I mean,
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: he was... He was dominant at times these past couple
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: of seasons. I mean, he goes all the way back
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: to UCLA, and some of his plays that he had
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: as a true freshman, or excuse me, as a redshirt freshman,
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: were just absolutely fantastic. And then, of course, the big win,
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: I think it was against Penn State a couple of
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: years ago at Oregon, just showed poise, and he remains
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: the most accurate quarterback, at least in my opinion, the
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: most accurate quarterback of any of the quarterbacks who are
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: potentially eligible for 2027 drafts. That said, obviously the medical
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: questions that you now have, and then the fact that
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: he did not play as well in some of the
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: big games, getting beat on the road to Oklahoma State
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: where he was going up against another very talented quarterback,
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Andrew Mestemaker. And Mestemaker made plays down the stretch to
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: kind of wheel his team to victory and kept waiting
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: for Dante Moore to do the same, and it just
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: didn't happen. And now the opportunity to kind of right
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: the ship, so to speak, has been kind of stolen
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: from him. So I do think that he has slipped
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: just because the fact that we're still left wanting a
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: little bit more, sorry for the pun there, wanting a
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: little bit more for more. And so I think at
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: this point, it's probably the most likely scenario is that
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: he returns to college, whether it goes to where he
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: remains in Oregon and goes somewhere else in this era
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: of liberal transfer policy.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: But I just.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: I think that he is going to have a– I
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: think that he could be a very successful NFL quarterback.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: I think that he absolutely is the first-round candidate as
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: soon as the medical comes through okay. But I'm expecting
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: Dante Moore to become the top quarterback in this class
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: right there with Arch Manning. And both of them, in
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: my opinion, have basically, you know, treaded water rather than
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: taking the next step forward. All right.
• 55:51
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  Speaker 2: All right, Rob, let's get into some of the games
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: this weekend. I guess they don't call it the cocktail
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: party anymore, and I think it's even being held at
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: the Georgia Dome this year. Florida, number 17 in the country,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: number three Georgia, and... just assuming there's a couple prospects
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: in this game, including the top running back in the country.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: No doubt about it. I still call it the outdoor
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: cocktail party. I mean, if it's an indoor cocktail party,
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: then it should be at Farrelly's as far as I'm concerned.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: But with the, yeah, Florida, Georgia, just going.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: To have all kinds of talent. And as you mentioned,
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: the running back, Jaden Baugh for Florida. To me, it's funny.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: We talked about NFL trades just a couple of moments ago.
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: And one of the players that there was so much
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: scuttlebutt that possibly Jonathan Taylor would get traded. To me,
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: Jaden Baugh is very similar in size, stature, style. style
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: as Jonathan Taylor.
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's listed at six foot.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: I think he's probably coming in closer to 5'10, 5'11,
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: but 225, 230 pounds, and yet still has that breakaway speed.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: He had a 75-yard touchdown run. He's got... I believe
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: it's five touchdown runs so far this season of at
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: least 50 yards. I mean, that's crazy numbers for a
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: guy of his size. And he can also just put
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: you on your backside if you try to tackle him
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: just straight up. So he is a dynamic talent. He
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: is easily the most talented player for the Florida Gators.
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: I am intrigued by a couple of their young defensive players.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: They've got a British-born defensive lineman, a senior, 6'6. 299 pounds.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: Emmanuel Oye Badejo, number 99. He's got three and a
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: half sacks so far this season. And if all you
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: saw was him against Auburn, you would think he was
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: a first-round pick. I mean, he had three sacks in
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: that game alone. Really long arms and strong. But you
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: just see inconsistencies everywhere. with his game. So I want
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: to kind of see him polish things up a little
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: bit more. But that's typical of a lot of the
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: players that began their football career anywhere other than the
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: United States, where they haven't played nearly as much. I'm
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: also intrigued by Jaden Woods, a sophomore edge rusher.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: He's number zero.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: 6'3, 245 pounds. He actually leads the Gators in sacks
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: four and a half so far this season.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: He's quick.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: He just seems to get a little bit stronger in
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: his upper body. But you can see that he is
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: a player to kind of watch in the future. The
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: Georgia Bulldogs are absolutely loaded. I mean, especially on defense.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Kirby Smart is terrific as far as recruiting and developing
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: these players. I've got to talk a little bit about
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: Chris Cole, number nine. This is a guy that you
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: might remember last year, it was Arville Reese at Ohio State.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: He went from a part-time starter to, I think, his
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: number five overall selection this past draft. That's the type
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: of trajectory that we're going to see from Chris Cole.
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: He was in and out of the starting lineup for
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: Georgia for the last couple of years, but now he
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: is one of the elite players in all the draft
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: uh you know i i just had the new article
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: i have at fox sports.com is gonna be my top
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: 50 big board and i have chris cole at number
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: four uh overall i mean this guy is just phenomenal
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: player he's gonna wind up being a top five selection
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: this year he's gonna you know to me is one
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: of the players that you absolutely must see in college
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: football this season.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Uh rob rang joining us curcia for earliest pizza for
• 59:34
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• 59:39
  Speaker 2: near you uh arizona state at number eight byu and
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: you're at the point now in the season with some
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: of these teams are thinking about playoffs and byu be
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: one of those they have the disappointing loss at ucf
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: kind of the fall off after the The huge emotional
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: win against Notre Dame the week before. They go to
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: UCF and they get beat. They got Arizona State coming in.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: They should handle the Sun Devils. But, you know, it's
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: a dangerous game. So let's talk about some of the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: guys that might be watching as far as BYU is concerned.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I know there's a couple linebackers you like.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, everybody knows about the quarterback, Bear Bachmar,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: by now. He's just as gritty, as tough as you're
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: ever going to see at the quarterback position.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: They have a couple of.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: He plays quarterback like he's a linebacker, but BYU actually
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: has a couple of linebackers that are actual linebackers that
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: are really intriguing guys as well.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: Cade Uluwabe, number four, is.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: Kind of that traditional inside linebacker, 6'2, 230 pounds, really instinctive,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: very physical, isn't an elite athlete. But he just, again,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: is such a physical player that I love his game.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: I think he's a mid-round NFL draft pick that winds up, quote-unquote,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: surprising people when he wants to become a starter in
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: the future. I'm also intrigued by number 16.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: Isaiah Glasker.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: He's got kind of a unique frame for an outside linebacker. 6'5,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: 240 pounds, and a lot of guys that size you
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: would think would be an edge rusher, and he can
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: do that, but he's actually at his best operating in
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: reverse and dropping back into coverage. He uses his long arms.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: He locates the football really well. To me, I don't
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: see the physicality that I think that you have to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: have to be successful in the NFL at that size.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: I do think that he'd be.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Really intriguing in the CFL. So I'm very much watching
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: Isaiah Glasgow as well. And really, in terms of just
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: NFL prospects, the story in this game, Ian, is Arizona
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: State and the wide receivers. They've got a couple of transfers.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: Reed Harris, number three, and Omarion Miller, number four. Reed Harris, 6'5, 220-pounder. that,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: you know, I probably, I just mentioned that the top
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: 50 big board, literally Reed Harris is number 51. And
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: I probably should have put him on the board just
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: because I want to kind of call my shot here
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: a little bit with him. He's a player that a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: lot of people are talking about nationally. He's a transfer
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: from Boston college. He's got seven touchdowns so far this
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: season and, and just the agility and acceleration that he
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: has at six foot five, 220 pounds and I just
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: think translates to the NFL very, very well. But he's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: a Great Falls, Montana-raised kid. And so, again, he's just
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  Speaker 5: a little bit under the radar for a lot of folks.
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  Speaker 5: Whereas the other receiver, number four, Omarion Miller, he transferred
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  Speaker 5: from Colorado. He was originally from the state of Louisiana.
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  Speaker 5: And we all know that in the South, they have
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  Speaker 5: a lot of great talent. They also have a lot
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  Speaker 5: of great hype about some of their prospects. And so
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  Speaker 5: he's got more buzz to him. I think he signed
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  Speaker 5: with Colorado as like a four or five star recruit.
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  Speaker 5: He's a good player. He's an absolutely NFL caliber guy,
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  Speaker 5: but just doesn't play at the same consistency and explosiveness
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  Speaker 5: that I see from Reed Harris. As you mentioned, BYU
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  Speaker 5: came off the emotional victory over Notre Dame and then
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  Speaker 5: stubbed their toes to speak against Central Florida. They had
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  Speaker 5: better be on their P's and Q's against this Arizona
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  Speaker 5: State team just because Arizona State does have the firepower
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  Speaker 5: at the wide receiver position to be able to put
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  Speaker 5: up some points and make that a little bit of
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  Speaker 5: a ballgame.
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  Speaker 2: Rob Rank joining us. Let's talk quarterbacks just for a
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  Speaker 2: second because, you know, watching all these trades in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: a team like Indianapolis, they definitely need a quarterback even
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  Speaker 2: though they They picked up one a couple years ago
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  Speaker 2: in Anthony Richardson. They got Daniel Jones, but they're probably
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  Speaker 2: going to be looking for a quarterback, and whoever else
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  Speaker 2: is not good this year looking for quarterbacks, unless you're
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  Speaker 2: named Tennessee or something because you got Cam Ward already.
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  Speaker 2: But if you look around the league or around college football,
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  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, there's a lot of names I think are interesting.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about two of those. You mentioned Arch Manning.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about Dante Moore. What about, say, Drew Mestemaker
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  Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State?
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  Speaker 5: Well, he's got a fun game, you know, just this Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to be on the road to Iowa State. And,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Ames can, you know, that's a hostile crowd,
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  Speaker 5: hostile environment. So I think with true mess to make,
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  Speaker 5: you're talking about a guy that, you know, this is
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  Speaker 5: his first season at Oklahoma State, previously at North Texas.
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  Speaker 5: So any home or any away game, I think it
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  Speaker 5: just has that much more, you know, more buildup and
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  Speaker 5: more attention focused on him. He was like the darling,
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  Speaker 5: so to speak, coming into this season. People were talking
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  Speaker 5: about him, but now with Arch Main perhaps taking a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: step back, certainly Dante Moore with the medical issues, suddenly
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  Speaker 5: Metamaker is QB1 in a lot of people's eyes. So
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  Speaker 5: I'm very intrigued by how he's going to be able
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  Speaker 5: to handle the pressure, not just the pressure himself, that
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  Speaker 5: the Cyclones are going to put on him in that crowd,
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  Speaker 5: but just the pressure of all the expectations now. So
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  Speaker 5: he is fascinating though. I mean, the comparison I use
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  Speaker 5: for him is Josh Allen, which obviously means an MVP
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  Speaker 5: caliber type of talent. At the same time, people forget
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  Speaker 5: how raw Josh Allen was coming out of Wyoming and
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  Speaker 5: how long it took him to really become the NFL
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  Speaker 5: superstar that he became. Will the Mets to Makers future
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  Speaker 5: NFL team be willing to show that much patience to
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  Speaker 5: allow best to make her to develop. That to me
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  Speaker 5: is a, is a really intriguing matchup. And while I'm
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  Speaker 5: on the topic of quarterbacks, uh, and number one, Miami hurricanes,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: go on and play in chap in chapel Hill against
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  Speaker 5: bill Belichick, who knows a little bit about confusing young quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 5: So I think this is a kind of a sneaky
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  Speaker 5: game for Miami. Not that I think the North Carolina
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  Speaker 5: physically shouldn't be able to even be on the same field.
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  Speaker 5: as the Miami Hurricanes. But I do think that Belichick
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  Speaker 5: is obviously a savvy enough defensive mind that he might
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  Speaker 5: be able to confuse Darion Mensah a little bit. So
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  Speaker 5: I think that's kind of a sneaky matchup to watch
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  Speaker 5: for a quarterback, again, going on the road that has
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  Speaker 5: a lot of eyes on him at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just, it's... Can we say this right now
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  Speaker 2: that the quarterback class is still very much up in
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: the air in terms of quality and who's going where
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  Speaker 2: heading into the 2027 draft?
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  Speaker 5: I think that is very safe to say.
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  Speaker 6: And I also think.
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  Speaker 5: That, again, we live in this era now where quarterbacks
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  Speaker 5: are transferring here, there, and everywhere. They're getting so much
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  Speaker 5: money to stay in college. There was so much hype
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  Speaker 5: entering this year that all of these quarterbacks were, of course,
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  Speaker 5: they're all going to jump into the NFL. And most
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: of them are underclassmen. And so there's, you know, there's
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  Speaker 5: a possibility that Archman returns, that Dante Moore returns, Restemaker returns.
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  Speaker 5: And so a guy like Darian Menta returns. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think that there is a chance that some of
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  Speaker 5: these quarterbacks are going to come out into the NFL draft.
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  Speaker 5: And it's going to be the bonanza quarterback draft that
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  Speaker 5: everybody was hoping it would be. But I think it's
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  Speaker 5: also possible that most of them.
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  Speaker 6: Say, the heck with it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to stick in college football, and that is
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  Speaker 5: going to make it that much more fascinating from an
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  Speaker 5: NFL draft perspective because then some of these other players
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  Speaker 5: that don't play the quarterback position are just going to
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  Speaker 5: be moving their stock up that much higher.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree.
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  Speaker 2: All right, tell me what we've got coming up. It
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  Speaker 2: might be up already, but at foxsports.com, my man's got
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  Speaker 2: a draft board. I think he's got a draft board.
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  Speaker 5: What do you got? Yeah, I got the top 50
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  Speaker 5: draft board or big board, whatever, however you want to
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  Speaker 5: call it. And basically just I'm ranking the top 50
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: prospects I've seen so far in college football. Now, again,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: there's the caveat that I just mentioned is that some
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: of these players, especially quarterbacks, are just going to choose
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: to return to the college football. And you're going to
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: see why I predicted that the Texas Longhorns were going
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  Speaker 5: to wind up winning it all when it's all said
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  Speaker 5: and done, because it's not just Arch Manning. While he
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: gets all the attention, the number two player on my
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: list is Colin Simmons, the edge rusher. Now, Colin Simmons,
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  Speaker 5: basically because of a high ankle sprain, has opted not
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  Speaker 5: to play in a couple of games here. And there
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: are some questions whether that he is, you know, all in.
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  Speaker 5: Texas Longhorns are already looking at where... he might stand
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL draft. That's part of the reason why
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  Speaker 5: the comparison I have for him is Micah Parsons. Micah Parsons,
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  Speaker 5: of course, set off the COVID season. He has wound
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  Speaker 5: up being, what, the ninth or tenth overall selection of
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys, and we all know what a superstar he
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: has become. Colin Simmons has that type of juice off
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  Speaker 5: the edge. Absolutely fantastic player. Would be and maybe even
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  Speaker 5: could be the number one overall selection just because of
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: the extra value of an edge rusher. But there's no
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  Speaker 5: question about it. I talked about this before. The best
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: player in college football is Jeremiah Smith. wide receiver at
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: Ohio State. Number three on my board is Leonard Moore,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: the cornerback from Notre Dame. We talked about him a
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: lot as well. To me, Ian, that's where this talent
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: of this draft class is still special. Regardless of what
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: the quarterbacks decide to do, there are some really, truly
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: special blue-chip players available to just happily play in positions
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: other than quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Good stuff, Rob. As always, go check that out at foxsports.com.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: We will check in next week, my friend, as the
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: games heat up even more down the stretch, heading towards
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: the college football playoff and, of course, the 2027 NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, Rob.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Ian.
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• 1:09:13
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• 1:09:14
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• 1:09:17
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• 1:09:19
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