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Yoreh De’ah 242:4-7. Honoring Rabbis: Distinct Vs Regular Rav and Teacher, Semicha, Rulings · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, we're continuing with cover Rabo resh membet.
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  So we're in the middle of see if Dalid, if Dalid, we're actually
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  in the the middle of the Rama. Let's see.
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  I'll just read from the middle of the you know what, I'll just
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  read from the Shulkanark. First we're skipping the first
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  part of the Rama and then we'll get to the next part.
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  So we we'll read it, we'll see it all together.
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  Asur la Adel maharalifini rabbo la olam, right?
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  One cannot be poste kalaka in front of his rabi.
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  The Kola moralifinet in the fan of Hayev mita person who does
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  this Haya Misa fine the IM who not fine, but let's keep reading
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  the IM who Rahoc me rabo. Now we're in remember this.
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  I'm just pointing out there's going to be two, two opinions
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  over here. 2 two sets of rishonium.
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  So the first one is 1 We're reading right now in the the
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  stomm of the of the Chauhanar, the Imhu Rahulk Merabo Shneem
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  Asamil Vishalo Adam Dovaralakar Bederak Mikre Yahola Hashif.
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  So you see, you're allowed to answer if you're outside of 12
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  nil, the same as 3 parcels if it's Bidarak Mikra.
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  In other words, he just, he needs to ask you a question in
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  halacha, you're not setting up shop to be posted Kalacha on a
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  regular basic, basic basis calls you on the phone, calls you,
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  stops you on the street, whatever it is comes to your
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  house to ask you a question, fine.
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  But to set up a a base measuration of coal when you're
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  teaching or perhaps ifilo midrash afiluhuba sofa olam
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  anywhere asala olaharud achiyama rabbo achiyama rishut either he
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  dies or he get rishas. That's typically what's done now
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  anyways, as we get rishas. So fine.
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  You mentioned that. So the smika of the of the
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  Mishnah and Tanaya Gamara has always been when you read the
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  Rishonim. It kind of depends what you're,
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  you know, the, the context, but basically the real smikha that's
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  always been spoken about or referred to is the smikha.
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  It's I believe it's part of Halakhala Moshe Mesini.
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  That has to be yeah, I mean, it is ish.
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  Ish has to be a straight line giving over from one to another,
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  Rav to Rav go starting from Moshe Rabenu down the chain and
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  you in various places you can find the list.
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  It goes to Yoshua, right, the different leaders in Tanakh,
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  right? And then and then eventually we
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  get to the we're all familiar with Perkyavos and then the
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  Zugos. That's where it continued.
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  When did it end? It ended with Rabi Hillel the
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  son Rabihuda Hanasi in the times of Mishnah times.
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  So that's well post mission. Post mission.
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  OK, so some say Rabe no Kanano. I don't know.
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  I I didn't hear that. I think we assume it ended
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  right. So that's the Sumika that you
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  need in order to give Kanas A narrative surreal and in your
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  moment and and for the for those issues or what's it called
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  Bayesdin Mithas Bayesdin. So that's what's Sumika is
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  necessary for. Otherwise we can't and can it be
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  reinstituted? So that's a Mahoka Rishonim
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  famous. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say
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  where the whole thing, but basically the Rambam holds if it
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  could be reinstituted as long as all the Rabbani Maneris Israel
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  agreed to to restart it. And but some say it's can't
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  until the Messiah comes. Fine.
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  So here when we talk about getting smika nowadays, it's all
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  about getting permission. It's either so we don't violate
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  being more a Rabo, more a halacha Bifini Rabo.
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  And so it's always a, you know, there's it's a little bit these
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  halakhas just in general, a little bit Gray.
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  I'll just point out the Gray points.
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  And there's we get nowadays is you get permission to Paskan.
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  But when you're Rebbi's asked a question, you know, you can't
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  just blurt out the answer right in front of him either.
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  That's still going to be a problem of he didn't give you
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  permission to be rude. So there's anyway, so there's a
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  so so there's two different explanations.
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  Why is Smika became a thing. It's either it's it's it's some
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  right. It became more of a thing only
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  in European countries. First the official what we call
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  nowadays Smika. But anyways, the point is it's
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  either to, you know, so you don't violate it's in the Telus
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  richer so you don't violate the Salaka.
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  And it's also just to make sure that not every single person
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  gets up and says, Hey, I'm I'm befitting to be a post.
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  So you don't have too many people coming up with the I
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  don't know how to put it anyway, not following the masara to help
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  keep keep in check a little bit as much as possible.
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  That OK, that your local so that your local Orthodox rabbi should
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  still be Orthodox. OK, so that's and then we're
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  going to see a little bit more about Rabo Mouvak is not, but
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  I'll just point out there are many nowadays who write the den
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  of Rabo Mouvak does not apply nowadays because everyone's
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  learning most of their khokma from books.
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  Also, every year you go to new Rebbe, you get a new it's, it's
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  so hard to nowadays to really say that, especially with art
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  scroll makes it even more difficult.
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  But but it's many writes already, the araka Sholkhan
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  writes, Vanish, Chai writes and others that nowadays we don't
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  really have this rabble move back to the same level that we
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  have now, but we still do have the concept of Rebbi Talmud
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  relationship. So we're going to see and then
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  Sholkhanar is going to talk about it.
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  A lot of the halakhos that we're we're learning about that apply
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  to Rabbul Muvak, A lot of them don't apply nowadays, but some
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  of them do because there's still that Rebbe Talmud relationship.
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  Kind of depends for what? OK, so it's OK, let's let's read
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  inside. Oh, we didn't lose a train of
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  thought. So that was the first opinion of
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  the Shulkanar that within that you're allowed outside of 12
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  meal, you're allowed to be posted a little bit question is,
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  should I read the Rama or jump to the Shulkhanar?
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  I just, I think you'll understand the Shulkhanar better
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  if we skip to the next line of the Shulkhanar and then we'll
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  come back to the Rama. Now, Viyesh Omrin, this is a
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  more Mahmar opinion. Just otherwise it's going to be
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  this if it's very confusing if you don't.
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  So there's two parts of the two parts of the Sholkhanar 2 Manda
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  amrim estam vyesh Almrim, and then he has another nakuta at
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  the end, Vyesh Omrim, the Talmud, Gomer Tokshinima Sarmil
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  Hayev mitta in Humora he's Hayev Misa if he's within 12 mil, so
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  that for sure he can't do even just a little bit back, right?
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  Even just makes no difference if you're setting up a base
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  measures or basin or not. You can't answer at all.
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  Then if you get permission things then it's OK.
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  The huts lishname azar mil patraval assar and if it's
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  outside of 12 mil then it's still assar patraval assar and
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  then he points out the Talmud Khaveer talk Shneem Azar mil is
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  pater aval assar and a Talmud khaveer.
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  So that's a Rebbe that you learn from, but you but you learned a
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  lot. And so now there's not
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  necessarily again, how to define Talmakhava is a little bit of a
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  question. We're going to see more about it
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  going forward. But basically you still have a
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  Rebbe Talmud relationship. You still learned from him, but
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  now you know a lot and you have you have what to give back and
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  you have what to say. And perhaps you could even argue
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  Lahalaka. It depends.
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  OK, let's keep reading. Note the Hutz lushname masar mil
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  mutter. And once you're outside of the
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  12 mutter 12 mil, then it's a mutter 100% because he's only a
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  Talmud cover. He's not your rabble muvak.
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  And then I think I'll, I'll just finish this last line of the
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  Chauhanarak and then we'll go over to the Rama Alpha P Shenata
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  Overshoot MI Rob Eckhard Lesagi Achita overshoot Nicole Rabutava
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  Muvakim. So here also right now, we'll
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  just explain how many point out Rabo muhakim over here.
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  Doesn't mean you're Rebbe Muhak, but it does mean you have a, a,
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  a number of Rebbe and that you learned a lot of Torah from they
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  know much more than you and you're, and you have to give
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  them, you have to give them respect, but it's not exactly
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  the same as Rabo Muhak. We'll see that that's so
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  somewhere in past just the Shah and the Shah and perhaps the
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  Shah Khannaath, the Rama has a little bit of a different
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  interpretation on Rabutov Mufakim.
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  We'll see you in a moment. So anyways, if you have a number
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  of Rabaeum, but but they're clearly your rabaeum that you,
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  you learn from and you're under you're, you're, you're not a
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  Ptolemy Khader. You're not close to them and and
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  learning and suck. So then you have to get
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  permission from all of them. OK, I actually told we shoot and
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  you cool them. Fine.
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  Now let's go back to the Rama. I'll just read from the
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  beginning. It'll be easier from the Haggah.
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  The the haggah before the it's where there's the hay of the of
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  the Shah, the hay of the Shah, that haggah basically the second
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  one. OK, the call Zebaraba Muvak.
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  So this where we said you have to be more than three mil or a
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  few or that's a bit mikra or forever anywhere in the world as
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  long as you're coveya. That's the Rabo Muvak of all the
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  Talmud khaveer. I feel a talk show.
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  Oh, sorry, but if it's a Talmud Khaveer.
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  So now you know, very similar to your Rebbe, you can challenge
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  each other. Sometimes you know more than
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  him. So now you're on the level of a
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  Talmud Khaveer VA. And so therefore you're allowed
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  to give a random suck even within three mil.
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  OK, at 12 mil Vyesh, only the komako mifine rabo mamesh ASA.
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  Now some say that if but regardless if, if it's you're
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  right in front of your Abbey, you're in the same room, then
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  it's ASA, right, right. Even if it's a Talmud Khabar,
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  right? You're Ravi, but you know a lot,
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  right? You're in the you could be OK,
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  so, but it's still us. Or since he is your Ravi and he
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  taught you that's if you're right in front of him.
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  Now imit khila bakava dorav lomarshi Shalularav OSHA no,
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  let's say your Rav is not right in front of you.
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  But you decide let's go ask him the Rav and see what he says.
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  You guys agreed to go to him and then he's not in the room and
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  then you decide, you know what, let me answer myself.
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  So then that's that's not proper covered because he's your Rebbe
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  and you already said we're going to go ask him.
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  Oh, Shahrava Mufflagh Bahama Vizikana or you're the Rav is of
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  exceptional Khokhama. So then a in laharos Bureau, you
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  should not be Mora halacha anywhere in a city, right?
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  If you get Rashas, it's then it's OK.
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  And I'm sure many rebellion would would be happy to give
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  rashas because they need to share the load of all the
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  questions. They don't want the entire, you
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  know, based on your hierarchy, right?
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  It's like Mosher Beni. You don't want everyone in the
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  in the entire city asking one person all their questions.
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  So he's happy to share the wealth.
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  OK, let's. So that's OK.
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  So now we're going into the Yesh Omrin and the Haggah says I
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  believe. I believe the Shah answers your
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  question. By the way, this Rama agrees
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  with the Shah Khanar, which is often the case if it doesn't say
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  Yesh Omrin. But you pointed out which is
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  Patilava Asur that's in the Yesh Omrin going on.
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  OK, OK, so let's read the haggard.
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  Now the next Viesh omrim, this is in the Viesh omrim.
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  That's more strict Shokhanarak, right where the with the
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  Shokhanarak writes Viesh omrim. So now it's even more strict
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  even beyond the 12 meal. So the haggar says Viesh omrim,
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  the dafka the raghil lavo le hero shotamid.
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  Now the only time where it's you have this problem of being away
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  from 12 meal, right, three parcels a fair distance and it's
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  still a problem to be pose kalacha without rashas.
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  That's if your Rav shows up once in a while.
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  If the Rav has lives in another state or a country and he's
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  never coming next to you, then then you don't have to.
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  You don't have to get rashas. What is raghyo?
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  The Shah says it means on a weekly basis he has to be there
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  every week. It's unclear exactly how often,
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  but he writes Kagon Byom Ashok or Besheni Vahamishi.
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  So I don't know, maybe twice a week, maybe once a week will
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  pass. But it has to be on a regular
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  basis, Aval. Not not once a year.
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  That's not going to cut it. Aval.
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  I am ain't no raga love Oshama, but if he doesn't regularly
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  come, rak badera a cry. Just he'll come.
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  You know, you invite him to come once a year, then it's mutter
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  Koshu hoots Vishwasha parsout. So then it's mutter according to
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  both opinions in the that it's outside of 12 meal.
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  It's OK. That's this yeshomim shaddafka
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  the the regular, which is OK, which right the Rama codifies
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  seem still tell me the caviar. We said that the hoots the Sheni
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  masar mil mutter. OK, let's go to the next the
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  final haga, the high move Hakim Lomari keshar rabbo Muvhak.
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  Now, these muvhakim are not like every other, like the prime
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  distinct Rebbe relationship with you Shiro ahmatomi menu that
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  most of your hakama comes from him.
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  The in Kane la escher Leo Tarbella botab Muvakim.
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  It's not possible to have. If Rabbi Muvak means you get
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  most of your khokma from him, then it's impossible to have
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  more than one, right? Can only have more than can't
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  have. Can't have more than one
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  majority, right? OK, in a pie, right?
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  There's only going to be how many majorities?
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  This could only be one, right? Fine.
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  So how do you get this a la rot sono lomar that here when we say
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  tell me that, what's it called? The rebootava muvakim?
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  It means talmid gamer la fuque Talmud khaber.
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  It has to be. We're talking about when you
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  have a clear rebbi Talmud relationship where the rebbi is
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  superior in knowledge than the Talmud la fuque, Talmud khaber,
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  as opposed to a Talmud Khaber. The Hainu should need to get del
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  Batara Venazir Khaber la Rabbo, where he grew in Torah.
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  He learns a lot. He knows a lot now.
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  And he becomes kilu, a friend to his Rebbe, Dahainu Shukharovliot
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  Gadol Karabo. He's OK.
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  Don't ask me how to define it. But you're getting close to be
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  on the level of your Rebbe. OK MU yesh hulkim some disagree
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  with svirlu that E kibo rashut MI rabo ekhad mihan ilaha wrote
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  hoots with shlosha parse OT. Some say as long as you get
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  reshoot from one of your rebeam, then you're OK to give suck
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  without permission from the other rebeam as long as you're
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  outside of three parse oat from them.
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  About talk sholosh parsa oat LO mehani lay but certainly.
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  But if you're within 3 Parsa Oat, which is 12 mil, then it's
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  not going to help to get rashes from one and not the other.
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  VH Omrim Nicole Sheeno Rabbo Muvhak, the Hainos Sheen and
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  some learn that if you're not the distinct 1 Rabbo Muvhak,
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  then there is then you're automatically a Talmud Hagar.
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  There's no, there's not a big middle ground.
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  But obviously, and we're going to see you still have to give
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  covered anyone who's your Rebbe, anyone who teaches you, even if
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  from your friend, you learn anything from a friend, we're
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  going to see you still have to give Kavod to.
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  So nowadays, Rove, wait. So that's what most say Lahalaka
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  is it's most comes from Swarim or too much scattered out year
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  to year Rabin. So nowadays we have a dinner
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  with Talmud Kavir that for sure we have.
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  And the question is, how far is it?
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  How do you how do you define it's a Talmud cover or, or
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  what's that's Talmud cover is the most is the most cooler,
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  right? What's the film right?
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  Sushant, who says that anybody who should not cost a lot of
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  without looking. OK, I'll, I'll, I'll quote
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  better emotionally. He points out from the Shiva
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  Siako. It's in the pesky chuva.
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  OK. OK, so it's quoted widely that
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  since most of our chachma comes from books, you shouldn't pass
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  them without checking your books, you know, taking a look
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  inside, which is always a very good idea, as we mentioned I
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  think last time, like looking up sources helps to make sure that
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  you remember correctly. OK, let's go on to hey, A not
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  tell me the alcoholism in Comrabo.
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  I tell him it is not allowed to give Samika.
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  He got samika from his rabbi. He can't give Samika to anybody
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  else. If his rabbi's around, that's
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  his rabbi has to give samika. OK, He has to have permission or
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  he has to have. The rabbi has to have moved on
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  into the next World valve. IMO kibra nisma khasmika Miyad
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  Harava, who has Sommer. Al aide rabbani akharim.
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  OK, vahuna selehem. Sniff.
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  So let's say I read this. IMO Kibra Nisma Smith, Hamiyad
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  Harava who has Sommer. One person gets basically you
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  have a group of rabbis that form a committee together or they
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  grew form a basin together, something on those lines.
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  And you got smika from one of the ribaeum, but not all of the
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  Ribaeum. So then in La OSO Harav listerer
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  Alav khal in Eno Rabo. So just because you got Sumiko
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  from your Rebbe, so you have to have cover to your Rebbe and
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  you're Rebbe, right, has entitled to have jurisdiction
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  over you. But just because you're Rebbe
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  who got Sumiko from now join the a Bays dinner, some kind of, I
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  don't know, a group with other rabbanim.
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  Those other rabbanim now don't have jurisdiction over you.
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  You don't have to give those other rabbanim any special
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  cover. Maybe it's written in the
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  opposite direction, but it's the same.
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  I think I said it clearly correct.
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  OK Hagar. Thank you.
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  IME Eval IM sancho Lovato nagu shanisma Kafov kasat osamko.
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  One second about IM Sancho Lovato, Nagu, Shanisma, Kafov,
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  Kasat Osamko. What does that mean?
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  He he got his own Kabbalah from one rat, even if that rat wasn't
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  necessarily oh, he's the one I get he's the one.
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  Who dragged? It and OK OK OK anyone who gives
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  you Smith and now you have to give him covered even though
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  he's not your main rabbi OK but then me Shalom be yeshiva's man
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  Echad Nagulomarshi would tell me about yeshiva.
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  Once a person learns in the yeshiva and a yeshiva for you
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  know Isman, so then period of time, then he is considered a
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  Talmud of of that yeshiva or the Russia Shiva alphabish Shabala
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  yeshiva, Shamayotera Hindu Shimmenu.
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  It could be the Talmud who came to learn in the yeshiva gave
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  more Kedushim to the Russia Shiva than Russia Shiva gave
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  too, right? Friends who gave Shira more or
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  what they learn about Carusa who taught more.
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  It doesn't matter the because at the end of the day, that's the
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  the Rasha Shiva gets that title and the the Talmud still has to
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  give respect to him because he's a Talmud of the Yeshiva.
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  Viyesh, let me hug him. Even if the Rasha Shiva learnt
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  more from the Talmud, the Talmud still has to give him.
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  Respect. Because yeah.
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  I think so. I think so.
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  Or both. Yeah.
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  Vyesh, Lamina, Ikar, Alma, she is OK and so one should be.
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  I should follow this one again. Fine, let's do one more maybe
• 23:25
  Zion. Let me create Harala Kashimura
• 23:27
  amasa shabalafana. The only time we call it halakha
• 23:31
  of giving suck is when is particular case comes to you on
• 23:36
  how to ask and what to do in this situation that happened.
• 23:39
  I thought you shall tell me Halakha Kadivari Miyakhol
• 23:44
  Kadivari. Me person says OK, what's the
• 23:46
  halakha like? Right.
• 23:47
  We're learning Mishnagura casually.
• 23:49
  We're learning something about Rosh Kodesh sphera shaving on
• 23:53
  Friday. Whatever it is me as what's
• 23:56
  Halloween Paskin so Yahoo Lomar Mashaabedita.
• 24:00
  I give his opinion that's not called sock.
• 24:02
  Kevin Shenomore al Masha Shabalafanov.
• 24:06
  But you're not giving a particular sock on a mice.
• 24:09
  OK, fine.