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The DiCecco Daily: An Updated look at Eagles Rookie Class in Training Camp · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Philly fans. Game day is stressful enough. Parking, traffic,
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  Speaker 1: long line, We've all been there, but when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to your cannabis.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome into another episode of The Checker Daily.
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  Speaker 2: It's Andrew to check the Birds dot com. The Eagles
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  Speaker 2: have released defensive linemen. Take Long Bran, no veteran, play
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  Speaker 2: a couple of different positions on the defensive line. He
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  Speaker 2: was on the Eagles practice squad last season.
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  Speaker 3: And feel taking care of the eye.
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  Speaker 2: Training camp was excused from practice on Saturday. On Sunday afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: waits now have a roster spot.
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  Speaker 3: So let's get into the Europos and.
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  Speaker 2: Where they stand. Just a few days in the training camp.
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  Speaker 2: The commun start with wide receiver Kaye Lemons. Going into
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  Speaker 2: training camps. Members understood that picked up for lost time
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  Speaker 2: and anytime you're not out there in the spring was
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  Speaker 2: putting together their offense. Especially with this offense where there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of details that are involved from the wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver position. Naturally you're going to have a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of concern as to how mckaye Lemon will take to it.
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  Speaker 2: Is he going to enter training camp behind the eight ball,
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  Speaker 2: So all of the eyes were on McKay lemon to
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  Speaker 2: see how he was going to really immerse himself in
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  Speaker 2: this offense.
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  Speaker 3: Where he was in terms of this offense.
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  Speaker 2: And while it's been sort of a slower burn for McKay,
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  Speaker 2: it really has been for the entire offense. They haven't
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  Speaker 2: really been able to get rolling in training camp. The
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  Speaker 2: Eagles defense has sort of had their way, and that
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  Speaker 2: really should be expected. That's not cause for concern. This
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  Speaker 2: is an elite defense. The offense is newly installed. They're
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  Speaker 2: working through some things, but I do think that going
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  Speaker 2: up against a defense of this caliber should ultimately help
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles. But let's get back to McKayle lemon, because
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  Speaker 2: he did have a handful of receptions and team drills
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  Speaker 2: through the first few practices. There was a deep pass
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  Speaker 2: in his direction from Jalen Hurts late on Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 2: He had a half step on Cooper Dejen was not
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  Speaker 2: able to get it because there was just a little
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  Speaker 2: bit too much on it. I thought Drew mccooba had
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  Speaker 2: a nice play over the middle on mackay lemon, and
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  Speaker 2: he did catch a few during the team period. But
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  Speaker 2: he looks like he belongs and that's really what all
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  Speaker 2: you can ask for right now, and you could see
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  Speaker 2: the body type, the route running he's when he catches
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  Speaker 2: the football, it's easy to envision him shedding tackles and
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  Speaker 2: really making defensive backs works to bring him down. But
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  Speaker 2: he's also gotten some looks as a punt returner and
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  Speaker 2: the two different occasions where the Eagles have worked on
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  Speaker 2: punt returns, he's been back there along with other players
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  Speaker 2: like Britain Covey or on the first day was Elijah Moore.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't in practice on Saturday, but Cooper dejen has
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  Speaker 2: been there quiz walk and has repped there as well.
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  Speaker 2: So with Makayle Lemon, I'm going to be keeping an
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  Speaker 2: eye on that because of all the candidates who are
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  Speaker 2: back there, they're not likely to use Cooper de Gene.
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  Speaker 2: They're not likely to go with someone who's sort of
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  Speaker 2: a long shot for the roster where it's Kus Watkins
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  Speaker 2: to a lesser degree, Britain Covey, Makayle Lemon would make
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  Speaker 2: some sense and or what they could do, and we're
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  Speaker 2: getting ahead of ourselves here is elevate Britain Covey from
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  Speaker 2: the practice squad for a few weeks while you wait
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  Speaker 2: for the roster to shake out a little bit, but nevertheless,
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  Speaker 2: that's the early outlook of Makayle Lemon Eli Stowers. I
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  Speaker 2: haven't really seen a ton from he's been coming in
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  Speaker 2: as the third tight end. Johnny Munk's been comfortably the two,
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  Speaker 2: and it's pretty clear that Stowers is the three. He's
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  Speaker 2: coming along a little bit and he hasn't done a
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  Speaker 2: ton during the team drills. But this is someone that
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to continue to grow throughout the summer
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  Speaker 2: and on some things. And I mean that was kind
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  Speaker 2: of part of the understanding, at least my view of
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  Speaker 2: the player going into training camp.
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  Speaker 3: I never thought he.
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  Speaker 2: Was necessarily gonna get off to a faster start. He
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  Speaker 2: had a quiet beginning in the spring, and I just
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  Speaker 2: think that as as the summer advances, you'll start to
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  Speaker 2: see Eli Stowers make some more plays. I would imagine
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  Speaker 2: the athleticism's there, you could see it in his movements,
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  Speaker 2: but he just really hasn't done all that much through
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  Speaker 2: the first three Nothing much to say really there, but
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  Speaker 2: he's going to have to continue to also to grow
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  Speaker 2: as a blocker. That's going to be paramount for him
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  Speaker 2: to get on the field and start to factor in
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more than he has on offense, but
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  Speaker 2: that's probably gonna take a little bit of time. Then
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  Speaker 2: you get to Mark hel Bell, the third round pick,
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  Speaker 2: the offensive tackle out of Miami, and Mark hal Bell
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  Speaker 2: was repping at left tackle on Saturday. He's largely repped
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  Speaker 2: on the right side during practices, whether it's the spring
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  Speaker 2: or right.
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  Speaker 3: Now training camp.
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  Speaker 2: But remember Lane Johnson didn't participate on Saturday. He was excused,
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  Speaker 2: so Fred Johnson took over at right tackle and Markel
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  Speaker 2: Bell left.
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  Speaker 3: Look.
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  Speaker 2: Fred Johnson didn't necessarily have a good practice. Jay loox
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  Speaker 2: Hunt gave him a pretty challenging session, but that's not
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  Speaker 2: to say that Fred Johnson should be all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden challenged by Bell after three days of practice for
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  Speaker 2: that number three tackle job. Fred Johnson's played a lot
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  Speaker 2: of football. He served as a critical depth piece for
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  Speaker 2: this team. Experience counts for something, and for three days
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  Speaker 2: in you have to let things develop a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what you know.
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  Speaker 3: That kind of goes without saying.
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  Speaker 2: And if Fred Johnson was having trouble against jay loox
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  Speaker 2: Hunt and some of that, some of those edge rushers,
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  Speaker 2: imagine what a rookie would really struggle with in that instance,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he wouldn't, but I mean Fred's played a lot
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  Speaker 2: of football. Fred's gone against these players in practice before.
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  Speaker 2: So I just think that it's more of a testament
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  Speaker 2: to the player that Jay Oakes Hunt's be coming and
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to get over you know, over carried
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  Speaker 2: away and overreact to that. It's something I'll monitor certainly
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  Speaker 2: and something that we'll keep an eye on moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: But I do have a lot a lot of optimism
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  Speaker 2: for Mark hal Bell, and I did mention that I'm
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  Speaker 2: curious to see what would happen if you've reached the
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  Speaker 2: end of the summer and Mark hal Bell has outperformed
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  Speaker 2: Fred Johnson.
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  Speaker 3: But after three days we're certainly not there yet. Let's
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  Speaker 3: move on to uh Cole Peyton.
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  Speaker 2: Cole Payton's had some good days, He's had some he
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  Speaker 2: had a really bad day on day two. I should say,
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  Speaker 2: he's had a couple of nice moments. He's had a
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  Speaker 2: bad day, which was Day two where he threw three interceptions.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to reiterate this, there's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the ebbs and flow when it comes to a young
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  Speaker 2: developmental quarterback. That is part of the territory so you
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  Speaker 2: never want to make too much out of one day,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's a standout day, whether it's one in which
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  Speaker 2: there's turnovers. You got to let things play out. What
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  Speaker 2: ultimately matters is where that player is at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the summer. Did he grow from day one to
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  Speaker 2: the end where there are certain areas of his game
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  Speaker 2: that look a little bit more polished, whether it's mechanically,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's in terms of decision making. So there's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be days where he has maybe not three interceptions, but
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  Speaker 2: he will have some less than accurate days, maybe turn
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  Speaker 2: the football over once or twice. And then there's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a practice where in his flurry of reps he
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  Speaker 2: delivers with a nice deep strike down the field and
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  Speaker 2: maybe does some things as a runner. But that just
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  Speaker 2: goes to show you it shouldn't read like an EKJ.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna read like an EKJ G machine. And because
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  Speaker 2: of that, you can't necessarily, you know, look at it
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  Speaker 2: too strongly one day or another. So he's someone that
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm a little surprised that he's gotten a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more reps. Is the number four then you
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  Speaker 2: might expect, especially when you look at some of the
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  Speaker 2: other quarterbacks over the years the Eagles have had and
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  Speaker 2: they haven't really factored all that much into the practice.
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  Speaker 2: It's really hard to carve out reps for that fourth quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: But the Eagles deserve a little bit of credit for
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  Speaker 2: being able to balance things in a way that seems
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  Speaker 2: to really work for all four players, and someone.
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  Speaker 3: Like Cole Payton needs reps.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is is you're not going to get reps
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  Speaker 2: over Andy Dalton or Tanner McKee.
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  Speaker 3: So the reps that you do have, you have to
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  Speaker 3: make the most of them.
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  Speaker 2: You have to put in work after practice developmental period
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  Speaker 2: with Parks Frasier, the Eagles quarterbacks coach. So he's going
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  Speaker 2: to get a lot of work in the preseason, not
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  Speaker 2: as much in training camp.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine that's going to continue to to be the
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  Speaker 3: case here.
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  Speaker 2: But Cole Payton's someone that you could see the qualities
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  Speaker 2: with them.
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  Speaker 3: You just know that it's gonna be a little mile.
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  Speaker 3: He's still a work in progress.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Morris was working with the second team at right
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  Speaker 2: guard on Saturday, suffering an injury went inside. He had
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  Speaker 2: been working with the third team and he bumped up
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  Speaker 2: to the second team.
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  Speaker 3: I like his.
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  Speaker 2: Size, I like the way he moves. I think he
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  Speaker 2: can be sort of a mauler there. I just haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen enough of them over three days. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to sit here and tell you one thing. If I
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  Speaker 2: don't have enough to go off of here, and I
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  Speaker 2: just don't have enough information here to give you an
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  Speaker 2: accurate depiction here what I think of him. But he
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  Speaker 2: was hurt and we'll see where he is coming out
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  Speaker 2: of that injury and what that means. On Monday when
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  Speaker 2: they returned the practice field and moving forward, Safety Cole
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  Speaker 2: was Nesky another player who hurt was he has a
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  Speaker 2: hamstring injury. He didn't practice on Saturday. He's been working
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  Speaker 2: with the third group as safety. So you like his
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  Speaker 2: frame that stands out. I haven't seen a ton otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: He was on the receiving end of a really big
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  Speaker 2: time catch from Don Tavian Wicks.
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  Speaker 3: He was in double coverage.
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  Speaker 2: He was in coverage along with Jacory and Bennett and
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  Speaker 2: Don Tavian Wicks. They would come up with it. Was
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  Speaker 2: Nesky probably should have intercepted it. He was certainly in
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  Speaker 2: position to do so, but that didn't happen. And then
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  Speaker 2: if you remember he missed a little bit of time
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  Speaker 2: in the spring, well, he missed time in the spring,
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  Speaker 2: and he's missing time well at least one practice. Now
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what that means moving forward. I still think
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  Speaker 2: he is the front runner to win that spot as
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  Speaker 2: the fourth safety, but I would not be so quick
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  Speaker 2: to write off Andre Sam.
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  Speaker 3: The eagles third year of safety.
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  Speaker 2: He could make things interesting if was Nesky is sidelined
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  Speaker 2: for a little bit there.
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  Speaker 3: That brings us to U. R.
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  Speaker 2: Bernard, the international pass player who is from Nigeria, And
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  Speaker 2: it was always explained and understood that it's going to
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  Speaker 2: take some time. The Eagles have a good support system
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  Speaker 2: in place to have a plan in place. Or hasn't
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  Speaker 2: repped a ton in training camp. He's worked with the
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  Speaker 2: developmental team. You see the size. I mean he's naturally
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  Speaker 2: having some trouble disengaging from lineman. He's, as Adam Kaplan said,
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  Speaker 2: he's really in the why phase right now, learning why
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  Speaker 2: you need to do certain things from your position. Then
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  Speaker 2: he'll learn the how down the line.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be a long term process.
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  Speaker 2: Here, and I think any reps that he does get
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  Speaker 2: is going to be hugely important to his growth. But
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to certainly do that at the expense
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  Speaker 2: of some other players who can provide, who are ready
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  Speaker 2: to help with providing reps in practice to benefit the team.
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  Speaker 2: But Or really has been working with the developmental period
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  Speaker 2: of practice and we'll see where things continue to go.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really interested to see him in the preseason, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm also interested to see how many snaps he does
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  Speaker 2: in fact play. Rounding things out, you have outside linebacker
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  Speaker 2: Keishawn James Newby. Then Kishawn James Newby had an interception
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  Speaker 2: of Cole Payton on Saturday late in the session, returned
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  Speaker 2: it for a touchdown when he was dropping into coverage there.
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  Speaker 2: I think he moves well, and that's a player that
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  Speaker 2: I think has done a little bit more. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even want to say he did a little bit more,
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  Speaker 2: but you could see the qualities that he has and
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  Speaker 2: I want to see more from him. And he also
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  Speaker 2: left practice injured on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't quite know what the extent of it is.
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  Speaker 3: I will look to learn more Monday when we return.
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  Speaker 2: And hopefully for all the players who were injured, Keyshawn
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  Speaker 2: James Newby, Michael Morris, and Jaden Roberts, who his injury
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  Speaker 2: looked pretty nasty.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll have to We'll have to see what the.
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  Speaker 2: Extent of all of those injuries are, but we'll have to.
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  Speaker 2: I will keep you posted on that here on the
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  Speaker 2: Checkodaily and on insidethebirds dot com.
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  Speaker 3: But now that's going to do it for this episode
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  Speaker 3: of the check Odeily.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Andrew to checko and I'll catch you all on
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  Speaker 2: the next one.