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Trick or Treat Wildcard: Weekend at Bernie's (1989) · Fumbling Through Film

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  Gathered together from the cosmic reaches of the universe, here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners, are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith!
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  God dang it, no, look, this is mine. I did the work. You sit back.
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  Terry!
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  It's like an educational curiosity I have about bone consumption.
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  Derek!
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  There's no way they're that stupid in the '80s where they're like, hey, let's just drag a real man behind this boat. They don't ever zoom in on
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  him! And the Power Twins, Zapp and Jordan, with their magical lemur snort, dedicated to fumbling their way through movies one forgotten gem at a time.
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  This week we watch the 1989 life-after-death comedy Weekend at Bernie's.
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  This is Fumbling Through Failure.
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  God, look how much is here! This is not recreational, Rich, this is a career! This man needs some help, you know that? If he's not careful, he's gonna wake up one morning dead. I watched 20/20, I know the statistics. I've read. Ooh. What?
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  Larry Lomax is dead.
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  No, he can't be. Oh, why do these things always happen to me?
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  Hello and welcome to another one-of-a-kind, genre-defining, brand new episode of Fumbling Through Film, the only show that dares to bring together 3 dudes to talk about movies, guaranteed. But these aren't just any movies though.
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  Not guaranteed.
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  These are the ones we've missed, overlooked, or feel are simply worth revisiting. So now if you're sitting there, you're like, boy, not any movie. But then you hear that, you're like, well, that's any movie. Anyway, my name is Derek and I am a fumbler. Joining me here in the Fumbledome as we sift through just about any goddamn movie is the one and only Prime Minister of Fumbling at Film, Keith.
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  Hey, hey, what's up, KG, fumbler extraordinaire? Wish I had a house in the Hamptons.
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  That other Hampton homeowner, or— yeah, he's more of a Martha Vineyards type.
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  Oh
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  yeah, I wish I had one. This guy has
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  one. Yeah, it's— well, it's the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry.
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  Hey, yeah, I'm a— I'm a Dr. Dre of Kansas. I'm a, um, a landowner, a man of many homes. I'm a home shark, as they say. I buy up homes. I hunt them down.
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  Oh no, Terry, you're the reason for the housing crisis in the United States.
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  I might be, but partially. my fault. Oh God. But I'm making money, so it's okay.
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  It's the American way.
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  Yeah, it's the American way where I own all the property and I rent it out to all the, the chief— the, the, the peasants out there.
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  I am a land baron.
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  All to the peasants out there.
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  That's the way this country works.
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  I'm the lord and they all live in my land.
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  We weren't supposed to call the listeners that. It's listeners.
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  Oh, sorry. Yeah, I love the listeners as long as they pay me my The tithes.
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  Well, let us tell all the other members of the high-tech serfdom what it is we do here, because that's what they're here for. They want to know, right?
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  That's—
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  I'd like to finally figure it out.
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  Yeah, we watch any movie, but not just any movie. Every month, one of us chooses a theme, a genre, something to define the month, a guiding light. something for us to follow.
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  Yes,
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  we each choose movies based upon that. And on the 4th week of the month, we spin the Wheel of Death. And then on that Wheel of Death is like 3 random movies that got mentioned throughout the month, and then we watch that movie. Now this month, our 11th month, as we established last episode—
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  Month 11. Yep,
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  month 11.
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  Makes us
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  sound like we're counting down on the, on the official Fumbler calendar.
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  On the official Fumbler calendar. It is Terry month, and Terry chose something very unique to what we've done so far.
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  Can I ask you a quick question?
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  You can.
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  So we started off doing January movies back in January.
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  I
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  assume we're going all the way around. Do we have a name for like month 13?
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  Well, it's just the, it's the bonus month.
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  Okay.
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  I don't know.
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  Year 2.
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  Bonuary?
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  Bonuary? No. Bonuary. No.
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  Every month is Bonuary for me.
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  Oh, okay. Well, I don't know if I like that,
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  but
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  that's— you do you. Um, if he's boning, he's boning. Just let the man bone.
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  Oh, I was— I just choke on chicken bones like I— oh, it's like a dog.
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  I learned the other day that there's birds that specifically only eat bones.
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  Really? Bone birds?
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  There's some sort of vulture and all they eat are bones. Oh,
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  that makes sense. They probably have a special organ for bone digestion.
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  I like how you're just dropping this knowledge. You're like, I just learned the other day. Like you were researching something, a big paper you were writing.
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  I'm doing my dissertation on bone burrs.
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  On bone consumption.
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  Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm bone con— I just happened to stumble. I'm just kind of curi— it's like an educational curiosity I have about bone consumption. Don't worry about it.
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  There's the clip.
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  Yeah, yeah. You gotta hold
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  on.
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  Anyway, this is Terry month. So Terry, tell us what it is you did here.
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  Okay, so it is a little long-winded, but let me explain. Um, usually, like Derek said, we pick a movie within a theme. Basically what this month was was a little bit of a flip on its head. We each pick a theme and get a random movie within that theme. It's all horror-based because of October. That's when we're recording these and when they're coming out, so Uh, the first month I picked slasher movies and we watched Alice Sweet Alice.
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  Yes. And then I had J-horror and we watched Audition. And Keith chose Australia and we watched—
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  Wake and Fright.
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  Wake and Fright.
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  Yeah.
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  And then we spun the wheel and Keith became a 2-time winner. And with that wheel spin, we were watching— or we watched
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  Weekend at Bernie's.
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  Weekend at Bernie's. I will have you know that my streak, or my consistent theme of watching movies I've never seen before, is intact. It keeps on going.
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  Really?
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  Yes.
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  You haven't seen this?
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  I'd never seen it. And well, there, there's my— I mean, I knew of it.
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  Sure.
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  And I knew, I knew what there was, the dead guy, and they manipulate him. Yeah, beyond that, I had no idea. I had— I mean, I, I said whatever. I, I know Doing a Weekend at Bernie's is a joke and it's part of the, you know, pop culture. It's— I bet you my kid might even know what that means if I asked.
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  Just bring her on. Let's see.
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  Yeah, we'll have to find out. We'll have to have like a special update next time.
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  Special episode drop.
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  Yep. Yeah.
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  We're interviewing people on the street, interviewing our family.
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  Oh, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta hide it though in the middle of like her explaining all the other youthful terms of the day.
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  Oh yeah.
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  And then just slide that one in there and see if it.
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  Well, yeah, I'll get called bruh like 25 times.
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  Well, I mean, that's a term of endearment. That's a good thing, right?
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  Yeah, I know. I'm not bad about it.
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  Hey, bruh. I like. I call my cab bruh.
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  Oh, there you go.
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  We were watching one of the one of the soccer games this weekend and. Older son's out there playing, and the kid who was trying to guard him, number was, uh, 67. And I pointed to my—
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  Oh my goodness.
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  I looked at my younger kid, I go, hey, look at that. He giggled a little bit.
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  Yeah. So I had never seen Birdie. Had— do you guys have any previous history or knowledge of Weekend at Bernie's?
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  Well, yeah, I mean, I saw this like a bunch of times as a kid.
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  Oh,
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  uh,
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  brag.
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  I'm gonna guess I saw the theaters.
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  Burn, bro.
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  And then like in the early days of HBO, it was probably on a bunch. And also the fact that it had come up in like previous incarnations of the show.
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  Oh yeah, we've talked about Bernie many times.
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  We felt the Bern, that's for sure.
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  Yeah. Mm-hmm.
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  Um,
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  wow. Say, that's more than my earlier comment that didn't make the taping. Yeah, we felt the Bern. Good job, Terry.
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  Thank you. Um, I, uh, I'm a Bern— Bernie bruh as well. Um, I was not really— I just recently watched these though, um, 1 and 2. My friend at work, he had the double disc DVD. He said I needed to see this. I said okay. He let me borrow it, so I watched them both and I returned it.
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  See this?
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  Yeah, that was a little bit crazy because I like that. But he's like— I don't remember, I think he just said he really— he— there's one of those like comedies he really liked, and so he gave me the discs and I was like, sure, I guess. I'll watch them. And I did. And then guess what? I watched it again for the show. So— Wow,
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  that's dedication to the show.
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  Last few months I've watched it twice.
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  We gotta talk about Weekend at Bernie's. But before we talk about Weekend at Bernie's, our viewing of— or, uh, no, I've already lost track of what the hell we do. We get so off track. Keith?
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  Yeah?
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  You're gonna take us closer to Weekend at Bernie's than anyone ever could imagine we could get, aren't you?
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  I could. Is this thing called something?
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  Yeah, I was getting there. I just, I just need a simple yes, an affirmation that I was—
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  Yes, affirmation.
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  Uh, yes, Derek, I am ready to get us close.
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  Oh God, here we go. Let's prepare for another patent-pended Fumbler's Deep Dive.
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  Let's do an autopsy into Weekend at Bernie's.
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  God dang it. No, look, this is mine. I did the work. You just sit back.
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  Sorry. All right, I'm gonna shut up now. I won't say another word.
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  All right, let's do an autopsy in The Weekend at Bernie's.
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  Oh, Keith, that's a really good one.
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  All right, so Weekend at Bernie's came out— this is a July 4th movie.
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  Wow,
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  it came out on July 4th?
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  Came out on July 5th, so it's a July 4th weekend.
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  But the movie— isn't it Memorial Day in the movie?
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  Labor Day. Labor Day.
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  What a missed opportunity. This should have been a 4th of July set movie. It would make no difference.
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  I don't think it really would have mattered. I'll accept it.
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  There'd been more fireworks.
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  Well, yeah,
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  and not just between Silverman and Bernie.
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  Um, anyway, uh, man, uh, 1 hour 37 minutes. It made $4.5 million in its opening weekend.
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  Wow.
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  Uh-huh.
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  Uh, as part of $30.218 million overall. which would be about $85.6 million now.
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  Okay.
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  It opened at number 8 in its opening weekend.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah, um, because Lethal Weapon 2 came out that weekend.
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  Yeah, that was the number 1
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  movie.
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  Yep.
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  Uh, Batman was number 2.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Then we had Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, Ghostbusters 2, Indiana Jones: The Last Crusade.
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  Wow.
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  Dead Poets Society, Karate Kid Part 3, and this came in right ahead of Do the Right Thing and Great Balls of Fire.
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  Wow.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah, for the top 10. So yeah, no matter— I, I don't— if it— I think if it moved to Labor Day weekend, it would have helped it out a ton.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, because this is so like— that's just a stacked lineup to go up against.
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  Sure, but this is the quintessential summer comedy though.
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  Yeah, think about this. How many times have I referenced, I don't know, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade? But how many times have I referenced Weekend at Bernie's?
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  Oh, I referenced Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade quite often.
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  It's almost a 1-to-1.
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  They're like, they're just so evenly matched. Yeah, in terms of cultural significance, I feel like, you know, it's
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  true. The cultural, the cultural significance.
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  History will show what the real winner was here.
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  Yeah,
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  Karate Kid 3 or Weekend at Bernie's. Hmm.
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  After We Are Long Gone. Now we already know that this was directed by Ted Kotcheff, uh, because we just talked about him.
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  We know it so well you could pronounce his last name smoothly.
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  We just talked about it last week. He directed North Dallas Forty, Rambo, and Hamlin Valor, uh, and In one scene in this movie, the man who comes out of his underwear, uh, and ruins, uh,
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  uh-huh,
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  uh, the one guy's chances with the lady, that is, uh, that's him. Yeah, that's him.
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  Wow.
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  That's kind of funny. I like that.
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  I like that too. What a great cameo.
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  Very Hitchcockian.
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  And well, here he put another level to it, uh, in his, uh, memoir Brat, Andrew McCarthy says that, uh, he got to direct that scene.
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  Oh, well there you go.
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  Yeah.
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  I wish I wish Alfred Hitchcock would just like come out in his underwear half the time instead
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  of that suit.
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  Yeah, just walking down the street.
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  Walks out, grabs something to drink out of the refrigerator and stops, and then talks to the audience for a second. This movie was written by Robert Klein.
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  Okay. Klein,
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  I guess Klein. K-L-A-N-E. Klein. Like Klein.
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  Klein sounds right.
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  Jeez, I'm having—
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  it could have been anything, Keith. You could have said his name was Robert Kerfujin and I've been like, all right, yeah, I
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  believe
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  that.
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  All right, uh, yeah, uh, could have been E.L. Fludge or whatever that guy's name was.
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  Yeah, but after I saw how it was spelled, it's, it's Cluj.
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  Uh, thanks for letting me know I mispronounced that. All right, uh, Robert wrote on several episodes of M*A*S*H. He wrote The Man with One Red Shoe, European Vacation, But in 1987, he did Walk Like a Man, starring Howie Mandel and Christopher Lloyd. A boy raised by wolves is reunited as an adult with his real family.
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  Wow.
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  I don't remember this movie at all.
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  A boy raised by wolves.
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  Yeah.
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  Howie Mandel and Christopher Lloyd, huh?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Now, which one was the boy that was raised by wolves?
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  Pretty sure it was Howie.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Uh, also Uh, playing wrote and directed Weekend at Bernie's too.
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  Oh, now that's interesting.
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  He likes that one.
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  There's one part of that whole movie that's like 10 out of 10, and if they'd put that part of the movie in this movie, it would make this movie a million times better.
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  Wow.
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  We'll get there. Maybe I'll reveal that later.
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  I hope you will, because I need to know what it— I need to know how we could have made this any better.
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  I don't know if it's possible.
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  Yeah. This movie stars Jonathan Silverman. Uh, he plays Richard. He plays Richard. Uh, Jonathan Silverman's biggest, uh, acting credits are Weekend at Bernie's 1 and 2, Brighton Beach Memoirs, Caddyshack 2.
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  Oh.
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  One of Derek's all-time favorites.
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  Yeah. And
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  he was also in, uh, Beethoven's Big Break and Beethoven's Treasure Trail.
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  What? What is that?
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  Is that a porn?
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  Yeah. What is that?
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  No, they, uh, they, uh, it— I think they were, they were doing a little Air Bud type stuff with the, uh, Beethoven series at this point.
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  So he's a treasure hunter in that one?
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  I— yeah, Beethoven does different stuff eventually, I guess.
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  But
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  yeah, he's in both of those.
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  Sure, why not?
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  Yep. Uh, the main star of this movie as far as like, uh, the overall work and stuff like that that he's done is Mr. Andrew McCarthy. Andrew was part of, uh, what was referred to as Hollywood's Brat Pack. He's part of the Brat Pack. This group that had been characterized by the partying of members such as Andrew McCarthy, Demi Moore, Emilio Estevez, Rob Lowe, Ally Sheedy, Molly Ringwald, Anthony Michael Hall, and Judd Nelson. Um, some other ones get, uh, thrown in there, like, um, the dude who voiced, uh, Ultron, James Spader. He's another one. There's a bunch of other people that are, that are technically thrown into this group. Now, David Blum, uh, was writing, uh, a story for, uh, New York Magazine titled Hollywood's First Brat Pack. It's originally supposed to just be about Emilio Estevez, but one night, uh, while he was hanging out with them and, and, you know, interviewing and stuff Um, SOS was hanging with Rob Lowe, Judd Nelson, and others at the Hard Rock Cafe. It seemed like it was a typical night out. They had all been filming St. Elmo's Fire at the time, and, uh, he decided to change the entire focus of the article to the whole group and thus then also named them the Brat Pack.
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  All right.
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  Okay, nice.
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  Uh, a lot of the Brat Pack was in, um, St. Elmo's Fire. That's one of the bigger movies, and Andrew McCarthy is in that. Uh, he is in Pretty in Pink. He's also in the movie Less Than Zero. But in 1987, a young artist searching for his vocation makes a mannequin so perfect he falls in love with it. Finding the mannequin in a store window, he gets a job there and his creation comes to life. Movie's called Mannequin, stars Andrew McCarthy, Kim Cattrall, and Estelle Getty.
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  He makes a mannequin and the mannequin becomes alive.
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  That's what it says. And I've seen that movie a bunch of times, so like every night. I
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  don't think he constructs the mannequin, does he? He works at the—
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  It says here he makes a mannequin so perfect he falls Falls in love with it. I don't.
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  Because the mannequin comes to life and he falls in love with it.
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  Or did he fall in love?
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  I think he falls in love with it and then some kind of like weird, you know, maybe he finds Zoltan and he makes a wish and.
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  Maybe maybe it's the power of love. The power. Maybe yes.
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  The power of love. Yeah. Brings you alive and they ride around on a scooter throughout the the. the city at night and stuff.
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  Does it turn into a human or does it still look like a mannequin?
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  No, it turns into Kim Cattrall.
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  Oh,
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  very young Kim Cattrall. Nothing wrong there.
• 18:07
  All right, I'll take your word for it.
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  Come on, like young prime Kim Cattrall. That's really good stuff.
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  I don't know, I got no context. I don't got no context.
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  Uh, Big Trouble in Little China?
• 18:17
  Yes, I love that movie.
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  Yeah, there's a girl in that too. Kim Cattrall. Kim Cattrall.
• 18:23
  I'll have to look this up. I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Do you know who Kim Cattrall is, Terry?
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  I mean, the name sounds semi-familiar.
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  I know you watch all the Sex and the City, right?
• 18:31
  Yeah.
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  Yes, that's her other— like, that's—
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  she was like the— she was like the blonde one that liked to fuck.
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  Yes.
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  Oh,
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  but back in the '80s, she was really hot actress.
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  Okay. All right.
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  Yeah. All right. Um, Terry Kisner, he's, uh, the guy who plays, um, Yeah, that's a good one. Uh, Jesus, he responded to his
• 18:53
  name.
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  I'm just—
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  oh, I'm trained to do that.
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  Yeah, I got so many years of doing it, I just can't help myself.
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  Yeah, I— we, we moved this, uh, recording time up a bit. I am totally thrown off. So the, the stunt double who plays him during the movie, uh, suffered several broken ribs during filming, mostly in the scene in which Bernie is dragged around the surface of the ocean bumping into floating—
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  That was a real person?
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  That's what it says, and I find that to be absolutely ridiculous.
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  Why would they do that to
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  him? I have no idea.
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  Would you try to murder him? I feel like maybe they were like, we'll get this guy. Yeah, like
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  they couldn't get a dummy and drag it behind?
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  That, that's what's— that's the whole reason this little, uh, tidbit made it on here, because I could not believe it. Wow, that's amazing.
• 19:42
  Yeah. All
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  right, that guy needs to get a stunt Oscar.
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  Yeah, no kidding.
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  Yeah, late, uh, posthumous one.
• 19:50
  There's no way they're that stupid in the '80s where they're like, let's just drag a real man behind this boat.
• 19:55
  How bad could it be?
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  They don't ever zoom in on them. It's like they see them up close.
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  Yeah, you just mostly hear them from a
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  distance. Yeah, I don't— there's no close-up.
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  Yeah, I, I don't get it. Uh, if you would have told me it was from being like thrown off the edge of the, of the, you know, patio or something like that, that would make sense.
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  But I could have— They had something to crash pad for him to land on. Yeah, like land on the The beach.
• 20:18
  That was good stuff, man. Maybe he did. You never know.
• 20:20
  They should just got like an actual dead body and did that with that.
• 20:23
  Yeah.
• 20:23
  No. Yeah, they probably could have.
• 20:25
  Yeah. It would have been definitely more humane, and there's plenty of people that donate their bodies to science. When I die, I'm gonna donate my body to Hollywood,
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  to cinema.
• 20:33
  Oh yes, yes. I think
• 20:35
  take mine too.
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  Please do whatever you want.
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  I think we should start doing that. That should be a thing.
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  Light up fire. I don't care.
• 20:41
  Yes, yes. Throw me into a plane propeller.
• 20:44
  The Posthumous Award for Burning Corpse. Burning Corpse Derek Glasscock.
• 20:49
  Yes, Derek. Yes. Wow, they're giving out awards to dead bodies.
• 20:54
  This year's Burning Corpse Award goes to—
• 20:57
  oh no, if you're really good, you could put in the in memoriam thing.
• 21:01
  In memoriam, eaten by piranhas in James Bond 5.
• 21:05
  Oh, I love this idea. Let's— that should be added. Like, you can turn your, you know, you can turn your, uh, body to like an LP or Uh, you get like a tree planted with, you know, with your ashes wrapped around or whatever.
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  But keep my head above ground.
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  Let's, let's do this whole thing here though, where it's, uh, you donate your body to be used as a stunt.
• 21:26
  Harvest my organs and then put me in Hollywood. I don't care. Go.
• 21:30
  Throw me off a building. Use me as much as you can. Yeah.
• 21:34
  Get it. Use all the parts.
• 21:36
  Have Keanu stab a pin in my eye and throw me down some stairs. Go ahead. Put me on some strings to puppet me around. That'd be awesome.
• 21:45
  Mm-hmm. I'm totally down for this.
• 21:48
  Uh-huh. Yeah, me too.
• 21:49
  Now, um, according to Andrew McCarthy, one thing that kept him entertained during the shoot, uh, because they were on— they were in North Carolina actually for this whole thing, not actually in the Hamptons, um, was playing board games. And apparently, uh, director Ted, he let people kind of improvise when they needed to and just kind of, you know, make up some of this as they went along. And, uh, so there's a scene in the movie where him and Bernie are playing Monopoly, and that's totally just— Andrew McCarthy brought the game with one day and was playing while he was waiting for the scene and stuff, so they just fit it right into it.
• 22:21
  Nice.
• 22:22
  And finally, uh, the final little bit that I have, and I think this is the closest we can get to Bernie, is when, uh, his girlfriend goes to his bedroom to have sex with him, assuming they did it after she comes downstairs, uh, to have a cigarette, tells Larry and Richard it was the best sex she ever had. Of course, it's quite impossible that Bernie satisfied her being dead, those organs not functioning after his demise.
• 22:45
  Wait, what? You're saying it's not possible?
• 22:48
  That's according to IMDb. It says it's not possible.
• 22:50
  I'm glad that was clarified.
• 22:52
  Well, thank God. That's good to know. That's good to know, Keith.
• 22:58
  I, I think that's what was able to get us as close as possible.
• 23:01
  That is pretty close.
• 23:03
  So let's, let's not be that close. Let's back off a little bit here and Derek, take it away.
• 23:07
  Yeah, I'm glad someone else did the research on that.
• 23:10
  Yeah, I'm disturbed with the fact that a living human being was dragged behind the boat for zero purpose whatsoever.
• 23:19
  You know, when he watched the movie, he's like, that's what I almost died for. To be fair, one of the funniest—
• 23:28
  I love it. I love it. They don't tell him the rest of the movie, like what it's about.
• 23:32
  It's like, oh shoot, we forgot to get the close-up camera. Didn't turn on. Um, let's just, uh, let's just—
• 23:37
  it got wet and it ruined the film. Sorry,
• 23:40
  sorry, dude. Yeah, he's like laying there in the hospital bed. But you got the footage, right? Uh, yeah. What if they had to refilm it? What if they refilmed it with a dummy like after? Because the camera wasn't on.
• 23:56
  Yeah. All right, let's do it. Let's plunge into Weekend at Bernie's.
• 23:59
  Yeah,
• 24:00
  let's— yeah, let's, let's do an autopsy here on Weekend at Bernie's.
• 24:03
  I gotta say, I am incredibly surprised that the amount of dead person manipulation is actually small.
• 24:13
  It's not as much as you think.
• 24:15
  When I was— remember seeing the commercials and the trailers when I was a kid, I assumed it was like the whole movie, like they were taking them on the town and they had to—
• 24:23
  Yeah, like walking around with them.
• 24:24
  Yes.
• 24:25
  They don't do that hardly at all.
• 24:26
  No. Really?
• 24:28
  Yeah, I thought there was a lot more of, um, like when they take that, uh, little golf cart thing out and he's driving around. I thought there was a lot gonna be a lot more of that, and like people seeing him in that, like having them wave and stuff. And they really don't really do much with that.
• 24:41
  It's got like the strings attached to his arms so he can like wave and say hi and stuff like that. I like that. Yeah, I'm sorry, I feel like the movie did need a little more of that because it was probably the best part of the movies when they're doing weird stuff like that.
• 24:52
  Well, the best part of the movie is definitely the dead Bernie getting drug behind.
• 24:56
  Yes, that is the funniest. Like when everybody's waving, go Bernie, go! And then they turn around and see him like just getting drug through the waves.
• 25:04
  I, I do like that. So the first party when everyone just starts showing up and Bernie's just laying there and he's supposed to be dead, not, you know, like he— well, he's dead at that point, but like everyone that comes to talk to him, it's just like the small minor way somebody like sits on the couch Or like leans onto her, or that his head turns, twists, you know, all around. The guys come over to give him like, uh, like a little rubdown, a little chiropractor work. So they're like doing stuff without noticing. That's probably one of the best parts of the movie is because there's not that whole manipulation you're talking about, Derek, of like taking him out around, around town and stuff like that, or, you know, using the puppet strings to like move his hands up. But he actually does look like he's still all involved through that entire scene.
• 25:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 25:48
  And just like not really ever talking to anybody. And, but everyone's going along with it. They're like, oh, this is just Bernie. Just Bernie.
• 25:55
  Yeah.
• 25:55
  But I, I, I did find that to be very funny, especially once you then later realize that that one guy who was bugging him about buying the Porsche.
• 26:03
  Yes.
• 26:04
  Is just trying to buy that golf cart.
• 26:06
  Oh, is that what he's trying to buy?
• 26:07
  Yeah. 'Cause it's a Porsche golf cart. And then you see the guy later on when they're driving around, I think he's even
• 26:12
  like, He was willing to pay $50 grand for that golf cart.
• 26:16
  It's got— that's the only reason they put it back in the scene and stuff like that. And then they show him in the distance like he's just got a normal golf cart. I think he was really trying to push to buy that from him.
• 26:24
  I did like that scene too, but because it's like the partygoers, they like— they're like all doing like their, their small talk with Bernie and then like moving, you know, like they don't really care. They're just there to party. Bernie's probably— they just assume drugged out of his mind.
• 26:37
  Yeah. And Bernie is either drunk or drugged out most weekends by the time they get the party back to his house anyway.
• 26:42
  Mm-hmm. And I, you know, I feel like this role would equally, like, how easy and difficult at the same time, just be sitting there lifeless as like an actor. Yes. Like, 'cause he does a pretty good job of like, yeah, like you'd say, like moving to like react, but like in a dead body way, like, like what they're saying. But like most of the time he's just sitting there, you know, like you just can't move. It won't move, you know, like That had to be kind of hard, you know, to just like hold it perfectly still.
• 27:12
  And they, and they do a good job using the glasses so like, you know, the guy can blink whenever he needs to, stuff like that. Otherwise, you know, that would have probably been like super annoying for the, the guy acting to like have to sit there, you know, because anytime they get in close enough, you can see his eyes are wide open.
• 27:27
  Yes.
• 27:28
  And also, I, I also gotta say, like, it takes a— it doesn't take quite a long time to get to finding out that Bernie's dead, but it does really get a long time around to like What's supposed to actually be happening of the the guys coming to kill them?
• 27:40
  Yes, yes. To me, this movie is very long-winded. Like it's the idea is funny. The the the the concept is very funny, but they don't do a whole lot with the concept. Like they do some and some of that stuff they do is good. But yeah, the fact that it's all based around this, I'm surprised they don't really just lean in all the way with it because yeah, it feels like they're just kind of. You're saying they kind of improvise a lot. Kind of feels to me like they're kind of just buying time, like making things up as they go until the plot kicks in.
• 28:08
  They came, they came up with basically what probably was like a, a decent SNL sketch worth of something. And then they had, they had bookends of this guy's in, uh, you know, is embezzling from his own company and we need to kill these guys. And, and hey, here's at the end, hey, we also But now we gotta be there to actually kill these guys at the end. And they had those 2 parts, which are about maybe 30 minutes total, and they said, all right, in the middle, let's take this idea that we have and stretch it as far as possible.
• 28:41
  Yeah, let's add a romance, let's do all this stuff. I'm just like, oh, that's just not— Bernie's is the best part of the movie, right? Like, I mean, that's what we want, and we don't get a whole lot of Bernie.
• 28:52
  I think Bernie— I think the hitman who thinks he's killing Bernie Yeah, that's pretty funny when they're fighting. I like that where he's like, he doesn't believe that he's dead, right? I enjoyed that.
• 29:03
  They have like their little showdown.
• 29:04
  Even after he shoots them, they're like, they're even like poking at the holes like, yeah, he's dead, buddy.
• 29:10
  There's no blood coming out. Uh, he's been dead for a hot minute. Yeah, so there's a few things that— he's wearing white pants, and when you die, you evacuate your bowels. And that clearly didn't happen.
• 29:25
  No, unless he had like a plug or something, you know. I don't know.
• 29:32
  Just in case.
• 29:33
  Yeah, when you're partying like that, you get drunk, you know, you gotta like never— Yeah. You gotta clog it up.
• 29:40
  Yeah. And he's— I like how they, they allude to but never show his, uh, immense cocaine use.
• 29:48
  Yes, they keep mentioning it, but they like they find out.
• 29:51
  Well, he goes to the bathroom and he comes out and he's always like touching his nose and rubbing his nose.
• 29:55
  Oh, true. Yeah. Sniffing. You never see him do it though.
• 29:57
  Oh, it's a PG movie though, right?
• 29:59
  PG-13. PG-13.
• 30:02
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:03
  So there's hardcore drug use. Well, there's also death and messing around with the dead body for.
• 30:08
  Yeah, but it's done. It's like cartoon violence, but there is a like a foot massage to the groin under the table.
• 30:17
  Oh yeah,
• 30:17
  which is a very bold move on her part.
• 30:19
  And yeah, right next to the mob, mob boss. Yeah,
• 30:22
  that's his girlfriend, and that's what gets him killed.
• 30:24
  Then he talks too much. He's getting careless.
• 30:26
  Yeah, so I so the basic concept here though is apparently I like he he's at a law he's law firm uh or insurance firm
• 30:35
  insurance
• 30:36
  and uh these these other two guys they realize that somebody has been Like doubling up and stealing by, you know, using some fake death claims on insurance. Turns out it's actually Bernie knows all about it. Him and his mob friends know about it.
• 30:51
  It's because Bernie's doing it.
• 30:52
  Yep. And he's gonna have him come out to the island to hang with him and just— and they're gonna kill him. But then he also finds out that he's sleeping around with the one guy's girlfriend, so they're gonna just take out Bernie and, uh,
• 31:07
  the other 2 guys as well. No, they didn't worry about the other 2 kids. They're just gonna take out Bernie.
• 31:10
  And Bernie was gonna— Bernie's left a note.
• 31:13
  Bernie wanted them to kill the kids. Yeah, but they're just like, we're just gonna kill Bernie.
• 31:16
  Yeah, we'll take care of Bernie. And then they were like, oh, we're gonna— Bernie wants to— his idea is to leave a murder-suicide note, suitcase full of money, which I don't know if anybody ever took. I would have walked away with that one.
• 31:31
  Yeah, I'm gonna tell you what, if I'm those 2 kids and this all happens and I listen to that message and I see all that cash, I'm just walking out with that cash. I don't care. I'm not calling the police.
• 31:41
  Yeah,
• 31:42
  yeah. I think as soon as the guy's dead, I'm leaving. I don't think I'm gonna stick around. I know these guys want to party it up or whatever one of them does, and I'm like, no, I think I'm good after that. You know, let's just get out of there. Why are we messing with her? You could probably still hang out. Yeah, you know, after you reveal he's dead.
• 32:00
  Yeah, you could rent a nice place down the street and still hang out and, uh, do things to impress that, uh, young lady.
• 32:06
  But it probably would have killed the mood of the island since everybody seems like Bernie. Oh
• 32:10
  yeah.
• 32:11
  The one dude is so concerned with them blaming them for some— somehow they'll probably blame us. It's like, the moment you do an autopsy and you find like however many ounces of heroin in his system, it's over with. Like, okay, it's like you don't have to Like, oh, it wasn't you guys, clearly. Like, you're calling the police for him. Like, yeah, it just— those sorts of things bug me. It's like, why would they— why? They'll blame us. Why?
• 32:42
  But I think the longer you wait, the more suspicious.
• 32:46
  Yes, the more suspicious you become. Yeah, right.
• 32:48
  You should probably do it right away. That's just me. But yeah, I don't know, they want to live it up for the weekend, so What else can you
• 32:57
  do? Find a dead Bernie, call the police. That's it. And then you're done. You probably get a reward or something for that.
• 33:05
  The police will probably give you like $1,000.
• 33:07
  Yeah, yeah, just keep that money you found in the case.
• 33:11
  Oh, you're Bernie's houseguest? Yeah, just hang out. Yeah, you're fine.
• 33:14
  Just gonna have the house. He had no children.
• 33:17
  Just take it. Yeah, you must— you're the, the sole inheritors.
• 33:19
  And they're probably gonna like once they find out, the whole island's probably gonna throw a big, like, uh, you know, funeral party for him.
• 33:29
  Probably like a Viking funeral.
• 33:30
  Oh yeah, they'll burn Bernie.
• 33:34
  But yeah, I just— I don't know, like, it's like a bit of like a slapsticky end to the movie of like them, you know, smacking a couple of other guys over the head with bottles and logs.
• 33:45
  Yeah, very easy to take out the killers.
• 33:47
  Yeah, yeah. Well, those guys— well, those guys weren't even killers. Those guys came to do work at Bernie's place, like And eventually, like, that they wrapped the actual murder guy up with the, the phone cord.
• 33:59
  Oh, true.
• 34:00
  And all, but it's, it's still, there's just the setup is like the first 15 minutes and then you have this whole wrap-up at the end of like 15 minutes. And then the middle is just, let's see how many stupid things we can do with a, with a corpse or a stunt double of a corpse.
• 34:15
  See, now that's a challenge. I wish that was like, that was the premise of the movie. How many dumb things can we do with this corpse? All right, and they and it's like ding ding. It's like yes, they should have been like office.
• 34:26
  They go we hated Larry.
• 34:28
  Yeah, I think that's Larry's thing is like how much stuff can we get done with him?
• 34:32
  Yeah,
• 34:32
  but not necessarily stupid things. It's like how much stuff can we do? And
• 34:35
  they should have been using him to do more things, right? Like you know because Bernie's a high level high society guy. They could get in. Oh, take him out.
• 34:43
  There's gotta be a golf course there.
• 34:44
  Yes, they should be taking him and using his like high profile to get into places. That would be. such a bunch of— so much of a better movie. But instead, they're, yeah, like trying to like kind of like play it cool. But I would love if they just were like going all in on it. Like, okay, fine, let's— yeah, let's go to the pool with Bernie. Let's go to the, the golf course. Let's— yeah, let's go to a fine restaurant, you know?
• 35:04
  Yeah, you know, you know, and if Bernie's not necessarily with them, they're like, oh yeah, yeah, we're Bernie's friends. Uh, he said just to put it on his— on his—
• 35:12
  he's out in the car. Yeah, yeah, look out the car and there he's just sitting there,
• 35:16
  just
• 35:16
  like leaning against the window, you know? Yep.
• 35:18
  Yeah.
• 35:20
  That would be 100 times better. I think they should embrace the dead Bernie. And then they have to, like, you know, then they confront the killers. And yeah, then it's like becomes a— that'd be more exciting, I think.
• 35:30
  Because like the killer guy comes back around, like, and, you know, has this like fight scene with dead Bernie, which is kind of funny. But I, I don't know, maybe if the, like, the killer and the other 2 dudes cross paths, like, like Maybe they tried— like, the guy still thinks Bernie's alive and they come through and almost like save Bernie or something so that like it doesn't wait until like this very last, very end when the guy shows up. Because he even sees him when he's on the boat and he's trying to get off the boat because he thinks Bernie is still alive. And they have no idea what this guy— who this guy even is or why he's there or doing anything.
• 36:08
  I mean, they talked to him a couple times in passing because he dresses up like a priest to get out of there.
• 36:13
  Yeah, but they have no idea, like, actually, like, any— like, that he's anything to do with this. And also, it'd be kind of cool if, like, he— like, someplace, like, earlier in the movie, like, if they crossed paths with him. Like, like, instead of them, like, suddenly looking, seeing Bernie getting buried in the sand, them run into this guy a couple times. Because then all of a sudden it's, oh, maybe now that guy wants to kill them because he knows what's going on, or because they know what's going on. And, and maybe it, it gets that final 15 minutes of the movie a little bit like earlier in the movie and there's a little bit more, I don't know, cat and mouse, uh, adventures with Bernie too. I don't know. Something though that I just thought there was just way too much in between the two parts.
• 36:49
  Well, it, I mean, Bernie isn't dead until what, 43 minutes into the movie or whatever it is?
• 36:55
  When everything changes.
• 36:57
  Everything changes. That is the midway point, just about.
• 37:00
  Yeah, I think around 39 minutes and 46 seconds.
• 37:03
  Yeah.
• 37:03
  Which is just, that's, well, that's when they declare him dead.
• 37:07
  Yeah, but say find the dead. I think if they make the decision to continue partying, that's the midway point.
• 37:14
  Yeah, because everything really does change.
• 37:16
  Everything does change after that.
• 37:17
  Yeah, and that's the right change.
• 37:18
  I did like the people in the party. Like the one woman, he walks up and he tries to like, uh, flirt with her. What did she— did she tell him to fuck off? I can't remember, but it made me laugh. Fuck off, Larry. All right. Yeah, but then the other woman who, who's doing her dissertation on if Sherlock Holmes and John Watson were secretly married. It's like all that stuff. I really enjoyed that. Uh, but I will say there were 2 parts that made me laugh in this movie. Like laugh, like, like out loud audible. The boat dragging Bernie's corpse. The boat scene was way too long to begin with because then there was like that 3 to 4 minutes of jockeying the boat in and out of the dock.
• 38:01
  And yeah, I don't need that. There's like— I'm just like, how do you drive the boat? Oh yeah, this button.
• 38:06
  Too much of that.
• 38:06
  Well, plus they crash into the other boat and people— and you hear them be like, oh, Bernie. Like, this is just— again, it's just Bernie being Bernie.
• 38:13
  Yep. But when, uh, dude and girl are on the beach and they're beginning the most timid makeout session I've ever seen in my life, and dead Bernie like floats in with the tide, I cackled. I was not— I was not ready for that. I don't know why it was so funny, but it was awesome.
• 38:30
  It's like a reverse jump scare. Yeah. Yes. That, that, that is funny. I agree. Those are probably 2 highlights as well for me.
• 38:37
  Yeah. And he somehow— and Richard somehow manages to keep her from turning her head that way.
• 38:42
  Yeah. She doesn't see Birdie somehow.
• 38:45
  I like it when the kid wants to bury him as well. That's pretty funny. He's like, can I bury you? And he like falls over. He's like, cool.
• 38:51
  And then that kid fucks with him, which is like such an '80s movie move. There's something about like, then there's a kid in the house with a cap gun.
• 39:01
  He's pretending to shoot them with yeah. He makes machine gun fire noises somehow,
• 39:05
  and he looks he looks back at him and just gives the middle finger.
• 39:09
  Yes. Yep. Bratty kid from the eighties.
• 39:12
  Yeah. Suck my dick, and he runs off or whatever he says. I don't think it was that, but it was close.
• 39:18
  Basically, that was like the general idea he was trying to get off. See? Okay. So Weekend at Bernie's two, there's a key change to Bernie's behavior.
• 39:27
  All right. Okay. So yeah.
• 39:28
  So what's the premise?
• 39:29
  How much? Yeah. How much? How much longer after Bernie's One is Bernie's two.
• 39:34
  Like, how do they continue? Like, so
• 39:37
  it's only been a couple days, I think.
• 39:40
  What did you do?
• 39:42
  Okay, they bring up that he stinks, um,
• 39:45
  as they should.
• 39:46
  Yeah,
• 39:47
  surprised they didn't do it in this movie.
• 39:48
  I mean, he's sitting out in the sun all the time. He's gotta be smelly.
• 39:52
  So the general premise is that there's these like, uh, voodoo guys who bring Bernie They tried to bring him back to life.
• 39:59
  Why?
• 40:01
  I don't remember, but they need, I think they're trying to find some money or something. Maybe it had to do with the briefcase. I don't remember, but they were trying to like figure out where his money was. They're going to try to bring him back to life, but it doesn't go quite right. And it turns out he only like, quote unquote, comes back to life when he hears music. And so like he gets up and he starts dancing and he just starts dancing, but he doesn't like talk or, you know, he just does this weird dance and he just starts walking around. He gets like attracted to any sound music he hears, he gets up. He starts like kind of like zombie-like dancing over to the music and just starts dancing. And it legit is hilarious watching him like get up and start dancing. Like, that's the best part of that whole movie. If they put that in this movie, it would have changed everything.
• 40:44
  I'm picturing him doing, uh, like, uh, Peacekeeper opening credits dance. That's like— Yeah, you should slow—
• 40:49
  well, like, look up Weekend at Bernie's dancing and, you know, it's amazing. It really is amazing.
• 40:55
  Mm-hmm. So the fact that there's a Weekend at Bernie's 2, and it's not—it's just two other people manipulating another dead body, but it's still the—it's still Bernie. Bernie as the same two guys, I assume. Yeah.
• 41:10
  Yep. Yep.
• 41:12
  You.
• 41:13
  Yep.
• 41:13
  Especially for a movie that didn't like like dominate the box office, they went to a sequel and came up with like a whole idea after this.
• 41:20
  Yeah.
• 41:21
  And they really went crazy with it. Voodoo and.
• 41:24
  Yeah, they really went— took a hard left on a movie that's already a hard left.
• 41:28
  Yes, they're trying to find the money that Bernie had stolen. That's what they're trying to do. And they had to— the main 2 characters have to clear their name because they're getting framed for it.
• 41:36
  It's like City Slickers 2.
• 41:38
  Search for Curly's Gold.
• 41:39
  Search for Curly's Gold or whatever.
• 41:41
  Yeah, same premise. Yeah,
• 41:44
  I think one of them's dead in that one too, aren't they?
• 41:46
  I think Curly dies.
• 41:48
  Yeah,
• 41:49
  that one isn't Yeah,
• 41:50
  I'd never seen it, but I'm pretty sure he's like dead and riding on a horse.
• 41:54
  I've never seen either, but I'm assuming you're right.
• 41:57
  I think I am. Wicked Dead Birdies 2 and City Slickers 2 are the same movie.
• 42:02
  Yeah, and they're ripping each other off.
• 42:04
  Yeah,
• 42:05
  it's kind of like, uh, you know, Deep Impact versus Armageddon.
• 42:08
  Yeah, they should both be very embarrassed.
• 42:10
  Or Walkabout and Awaken Fright.
• 42:13
  Yeah, I'm intrigued by Walkabout.
• 42:15
  I
• 42:16
  liked Wake and Fright.
• 42:17
  Yeah, if it's in that 1,001 movies to watch before I die, I better get on it.
• 42:21
  Yeah, if I'm watching one a week, it's gonna take me 20 years.
• 42:25
  Oh God, at least I got something to do every week.
• 42:30
  But we're on month 562. Here's the thing, if you're, if you're starting at the bottom, those movies gotta fluctuate quite a bit every time new movies come out.
• 42:39
  Imagine how annoying it is to have to re-go back. You're like, wow, I just wasted my time watching that because now it's not on the list anymore.
• 42:44
  We start watching from the bottom of the list. Yeah, exactly. And it's like every once a year we have— we're like, goddamn, we gotta start, we gotta jump in.
• 42:53
  Yeah.
• 42:54
  And you're like, goddamn it, 951 is now 963.
• 43:00
  Yep.
• 43:00
  Because new movies were added and I gotta go back through and redo this.
• 43:03
  And it's not clear which was added, which was taken away, so you have to just restart from the beginning and go back.
• 43:09
  That dude that we talked about, Stephen Schneider, He must have some like list that he keeps track of, like what's number 1 and what's number 1,001, because he has to drop some off every year when something new comes out. I am curious as to like what's the highest that he's ever— like since the original list that he put together, what's the highest rated something that he's put in? Like, has he put something like, oh, this came out now, it's, this is a top 20 overall?
• 43:35
  Well, something coming out, be like, well, this will always be on the list. Yeah, so he's— I feel like that happens and there's the bottom 50 that are constantly being pushed around and stuff and pushed off.
• 43:48
  The Weekend at Bernie's. The—
• 43:50
  I bet you Weekend at Bernie's was on the top 1,001 movies to watch in 1990 when a year after this movie came out, we just don't have anything else to put on here.
• 44:00
  It was just fresh on their mind.
• 44:02
  Yeah, that list's only been around for like 15 years.
• 44:03
  We're not gonna put Snow Buddies 6 on here. We'll put Weekend at Bernie's.
• 44:06
  I guess we should maybe consider 6. Karate Kid 3. I don't know. Let's see, we can have Bernie's.
• 44:13
  Karate Kid 3 doesn't belong on any list other than movies to avoid.
• 44:16
  Or, or if you're just putting like the Karate Kid series as one.
• 44:22
  No, there's only one Karate Kid worth watching. I don't know if it's worth watching anymore.
• 44:26
  It is. It's good. I just recently watched it. It's good.
• 44:28
  There you go.
• 44:29
  Uh, any of the sequels are kind of pointless. I recently watched, uh, Karate Kid Legends. The new one that came out this year that's now on Netflix.
• 44:38
  Not the one with Will Smith's kid.
• 44:40
  No, no, I've seen that one as well. But this is the movie that pulls in, that brings in Jackie Chan.
• 44:48
  Yeah. Daniel Caruso's back in it as well.
• 44:50
  And it brings in Daniel Russo, not Daniel Cruz.
• 44:55
  Whatever. This shows you how much I care.
• 44:59
  Ralph Macchio. Yeah. They bring it in, but there is, I'll be honest, half of the movie there's an interesting concept and then they just bail on it to like,
• 45:08
  oh, what's
• 45:08
  interesting?
• 45:08
  I'll never watch this movie. I don't care.
• 45:10
  Okay.
• 45:10
  Well, Terry, do you, do you care if it gets spoiled?
• 45:13
  Terry, go ahead, I guess.
• 45:14
  Yeah. So Joshua Jackson is in this movie.
• 45:19
  Pacey from Dawson's Creek. All right.
• 45:22
  Yes. I was gonna say Pacey, but I didn't know if you guys would get that one. Nope. Yeah. Joshua Jackson is in this and he, he owns a, he's a, former boxer who owns a pizza place. His daughter is the love interest of the kid, you know.
• 45:36
  No, I think you said the daughter's love of his life. He's a very proud father.
• 45:41
  Well, yeah, he is, but she's also the love interest of, um, the new Karate Kid.
• 45:47
  Okay, not the old Karate Kid.
• 45:49
  No, no, no, the new young kid.
• 45:50
  Ralph Macchio's love interest is the daughter of the pizza—
• 45:54
  no, but Uh, this guy, uh, Joshua Jackson's character, owns— he owes money to like a loan shark.
• 46:02
  Okay.
• 46:02
  And so he's gonna, he's gonna do a couple fights to, to work it off. And this Karate Kid comes over and he's like, he's— he sees him do some moves to like help him out at some, some point. He's like, hey, can you train me so I can be like, you know, I'm an old guy now, I want to be like a little younger, I want to be faster on my feet, more fluid, you know, doing the stuff you do. And so he trains him, and I'm like, if they— I, after I watched, I was like, man, they should have kept going with that.
• 46:30
  It's like reverse Karate Kid, like Karate Man, where the young kid teaches the man.
• 46:35
  The kid helps the old guy get back into boxing.
• 46:37
  That's a good idea.
• 46:39
  It helps him take out the, you know, and win his fights to pay off the loan shark and get his, you know, his whole life in order. Like that,
• 46:47
  the boxer does like Instead, the boxer does a crane kick to take out his opponent. Is that—
• 46:54
  well, no, I'm just saying he helps him like become a more good boxer. But instead, have like at the halfway point where everything changes, it switches back and goes to where now he has to get involved in this, um,
• 47:05
  oh,
• 47:06
  Five Boroughs karate tournament.
• 47:08
  Kid tournament as well.
• 47:10
  Yes.
• 47:11
  Yeah. Is it like a mixed age tournament? Men fighting boys?
• 47:14
  Karate man versus karate kid?
• 47:16
  I'll be honest, I have no idea how they picked the people for this. Fights, but it's, it's really, they've all got dumb names. It's, it's super ridiculous.
• 47:23
  Like the actors have dumb names or the, or the characters have just boxers? The characters' names.
• 47:28
  I don't remember offhand, but some, they're stupid. But they, they go around and they're like, they fight a bit in each of the 5 boroughs until they end up like on a rooftop in Manhattan someplace for the final fight. And it's like—
• 47:39
  Between the fights, do they, they do like an interstitial where like a little plane flies from one borough to the other?
• 47:45
  No, they— but it's— it— they do cut from like spot to spot. Yeah, it's— and I'm like, you gotta be kidding. This is so stupid.
• 47:51
  You know what they should do? This is— we're getting off topic maybe a little, but—
• 47:55
  What? How much further can we go?
• 47:59
  Karate Kid. He gets into a tournament, but he doesn't realize he like entered Street Fighter and it's like, yeah, dude, you gotta watch out. This guy's got some crazy moves. Like, yeah, yeah, I just won my last tournament. I'm gonna be just fine.
• 48:09
  I won the All— I won the All-Valley.
• 48:11
  Yeah, then this guy does like a Hadouken and just blasts him.
• 48:15
  You're fighting a yoga master that's floating across the screen and you're like, what?
• 48:20
  Teleports behind you.
• 48:21
  Yoga, yoga. Why do you keep screaming that at me?
• 48:25
  Yoga fire.
• 48:27
  Oh yes, tiger uppercut, tiger uppercut.
• 48:31
  Yeah, he just says tiger, tiger, tiger uppercut, tiger uppercut. Shoryuken.
• 48:37
  Or he gets pulled into like the, uh, Mortal Kombat universe.
• 48:40
  Oh God, fatality. Yeah, yeah. Get over here.
• 48:44
  He watches as somebody gets their head bitten off and you're like—
• 48:48
  Can you imagine entering a tournament? No, you don't know the rules and you show up in the first round, somebody's head gets eaten.
• 48:55
  One, I can't imagine entering a fighting tournament of any variety.
• 48:59
  What?
• 48:59
  And then 2, I can't imagine entering a fighting tournament that happens to be Mortal Kombat.
• 49:04
  Hold on, wait a minute. Terry questioned like you not entering into a fighting tournament at all.
• 49:09
  Terry, he seems— that's crazy. Bare-knuckle boxer? I am not.
• 49:13
  Well, Derek, well, we'll get you trained up.
• 49:15
  Well, if only if a Karate Kid can turn this— if there's a Couch to Karate Man app, then maybe I will.
• 49:22
  I would love that. I want to be a Karate Man too. Yeah, and then they're gonna mean Mortal Kombat and I'll go fight Reptile and, um, Cyrax. I punch Cyrax, my wrist just breaks because he's made of metal.
• 49:36
  That's true. The moment— yeah, like, I don't even know. I don't know who— like, what's the kiddie pool wade into the Mortal Kombat?
• 49:45
  Mortal Kombat? Oh,
• 49:46
  like, if you're just like, I don't know it, and you're like, you get your first combatant, it's not like Goro coming out with 4 arms like that.
• 49:52
  I'm not fighting him first.
• 49:54
  Yeah, you're not gonna get any— like, it would have to be the one guy who's just a Hollywood celebrity, right?
• 50:00
  Oh, Johnny Cage.
• 50:01
  Johnny Cage. Or was it— what was the girl's name? I can't remember.
• 50:06
  Sonya Blade.
• 50:07
  There, it had to be one of those two because they don't like shoot lightning or breathe fire or eat your head or anything like that.
• 50:12
  They still have powers.
• 50:13
  They just beat the crap out of you though.
• 50:16
  They, they get powers that— maybe not yet, maybe there's certain games they don't, but in racing games they have like weird like energy powers. So I don't know.
• 50:22
  Oh no, like the original ones, I don't think they And they were just like—
• 50:25
  Just normal people.
• 50:26
  Or like, what was the one that's like the Bruce Lee character? He does just like bicycle kicks. Yeah.
• 50:32
  He shoots fireballs and stuff.
• 50:33
  Not in the first— in the—
• 50:36
  Maybe in the first games then. Okay. Well, maybe not. I don't know. You might be right. Yeah. I'd rather fight, I guess, like a good guy who recognizes that I shouldn't be there and hopefully he won't rip my head off.
• 50:45
  Takes pity on me.
• 50:46
  Yeah.
• 50:46
  Doesn't like push punch into my chest to remove my spine.
• 50:52
  First round, Terry versus Raiden, God of Thunder. Huh?
• 50:57
  Terry Terry wants a bit more of a crossover fighting games. He wants Glass Joe in the the first round.
• 51:02
  Oh yeah, I'd see I'd fight Glass Joe. I
• 51:05
  probably not not not not to not to get us off topic or anything, but you know me make a really cool fighting game.
• 51:14
  No,
• 51:14
  is is if they did one where it was all the. Like all food mascots.
• 51:19
  What, like the Colonel versus Wendy from Wendy's?
• 51:24
  Yeah. Or, or like the Colonel versus like Tony the Tiger.
• 51:27
  Oh, Taco Bell. See, I would always take Hamburger Helper glove. That'd be mine.
• 51:31
  Yeah.
• 51:32
  I wanna be the chihuahua from Taco Bell.
• 51:34
  Yo, take care. Take care of Taco Bell.
• 51:38
  And each one of 'em has like some special power and stuff like that. I think that'd be kind of fun.
• 51:41
  Yeah. Well, that would be fun.
• 51:42
  That's a great idea.
• 51:44
  Yeah.
• 51:44
  I want to be, uh, yeah, like Chef Boyardee too.
• 51:47
  Sour Patch Kid.
• 51:48
  Oh yeah, I bet he's wily.
• 51:51
  Yeah, well, since they're Sour Patch Kids, you got like some kind of thing where like you can like triplicate or something like that.
• 51:58
  Oh yeah, you just like wad up a whole bunch of them into a boulder and then you just roll somebody over.
• 52:04
  Yeah, that's fun. That's a fun game idea.
• 52:08
  That is a fun game idea.
• 52:11
  I want to be the Pringle guy or Mr. Peanut. Oh God, can you imagine Mr.
• 52:17
  Peanut versus the Pringle?
• 52:18
  Oh man, Mr. Peanut's taking people out with that little, uh, cane he's got.
• 52:21
  Yeah, I feel like Mr. Peanut's like the evil overlord. He's kind of got that vibe.
• 52:25
  Oh, he's like the M. Bison of the whole thing.
• 52:27
  Yeah, yeah,
• 52:29
  we did it. We got through Weekend at Bernie's. What'd you guys think?
• 52:35
  Uh, Yeah, man. I mean, I could have done without it, but you
• 52:40
  know. All right.
• 52:43
  I, but I've not, but again, I've never seen the magic of Weekend at Bernie's 2 to make me have more hope about the entire franchise. So
• 52:49
  don't, yeah, don't get me wrong. Weekend at Bernie's 2 is worse, but that, that dancing thing that he does is legit hilarious. It made me laugh.
• 52:58
  It's awful.
• 52:59
  But don't get me wrong. It's bad. It's not, it's not like the worst thing ever, but it's worse than this movie. And but that dancing scene is amazing in that movie, so I would recommend watching it.
• 53:09
  Um, yeah, you know what, I, I mean, I think this movie is probably ripe for a remake.
• 53:13
  No, it's old.
• 53:14
  Yes, you get a little Timothée Chalamet and—
• 53:17
  Oh yes, and Tom Holland.
• 53:20
  I don't think you can give them enough money to be in this movie.
• 53:23
  Chalamet and, and Tom Holland.
• 53:26
  And then, uh, get J.K. Simmons to be Bernie.
• 53:28
  Yeah. Oh, we are right on it right here. And then yes, have him do more crazy stuff around the area.
• 53:33
  Oh God, we are dangerously treading into the waters that ended up getting what's-her-face the writing deal for Fifty Shades of Grey. We are in dangerous fan fiction area.
• 53:47
  All I've got to do is rewrite the script to remove any reference to Weekend at Bernie's and we'll be fine.
• 53:53
  Weekend at Steve's. Or well, a fortnight at Steve's. Yes, a weekend. So 2 weeks, 2 weeks of a dead man All right. All right.
• 54:05
  Yeah. Not, not, not the best movie. Not the worst. It's just very middle of the road.
• 54:09
  A couple of days not during the work week at Birdie's.
• 54:12
  Yeah. Yep, exactly.
• 54:14
  An extended long couple of days.
• 54:17
  Yep. Extended holiday. Uh, I thought it was all right. I didn't hate it. I, I expected to hate it though, as a matter of fact.
• 54:26
  Oh,
• 54:27
  uh, going in, I was like, this could be terrible. And it really was, it was a little bit long-winded. Like Terry said, there was a lot of stuff. Like, Bernie isn't dead till like 40 minutes in, right? And they could have done a lot more with that. And like, the love, the love interest, pointless. The meeting her at work, pointless. Could have met her there, didn't make a difference. They met her at first. And even having that first, like, other than it's kind of a funny scene with his dad walking out, pointless.
• 54:52
  She's really not that important in the whole movie at all.
• 54:55
  No. Not at all. And she's even at the end and it's just like, okay, whatever,
• 54:59
  good for you, I guess. Yeah,
• 55:01
  yeah. Like, she doesn't solve the mystery of the dead Bernie or whatever. She doesn't believe it.
• 55:05
  I'm not sure how long he's been working there, but she's still in college,
• 55:08
  so— She's still in college, but what? It's not like she's 15.
• 55:13
  True, true. Yeah, they don't really establish like how long these guys have actually—
• 55:18
  Is it like a month or like 9, like 12, 9 to 13?
• 55:22
  That's how long they've worked there, but like how long have they been been like adults in the industry.
• 55:27
  Who knows?
• 55:28
  45 years old each,
• 55:30
  easily. Ah, all right. Well, we know what we thought. What did the internet have to say? Well, on February 7th, 2006, Tommy S-5 had this to say: Top 5 greatest movies ever.
• 55:47
  Okay.
• 55:48
  For a movie to consistently bring sheer enjoyment and happiness every time you watch it, and I mean every time you watch it, you know there's something special about it. I'm 29 years as I write this, and I was 12 years old when this came out. I was enjoying 6th grade summer down at the good old Jersey Shore. The movie exemplifies the late '80s feel-good personality. As for the movie, the chemistry between Andrew McCarthy and Jonathan Silverman was just amazing and magical, to say the least. Magical is a stretch. But they did have a good banter, like rapport. Uh, Andrew McCarthy reminded me of myself. Well, he—
• 56:29
  nice. Wow. Party guy.
• 56:30
  And Jonathan Silverman reminded me of my best friend. The movie just makes me feel good every time I watch it. And yes, I own the DVD. Rock on, Bernie. And let's hear it for the 1980s and especially 1989, baby.
• 56:48
  Here we go.
• 56:48
  New Jersey. I, I guess that's what he's signing off as. Tommy, New Jersey.
• 56:54
  That's his name.
• 56:55
  That's what it says. 12 found it helpful, 3 not so much. 10 out of 10.
• 57:01
  Wow, he loved it. 5 top 5 movies of all time. Uh, that's
• 57:05
  somebody doesn't see a lot of movies.
• 57:09
  Consistently tough.
• 57:10
  I'm glad he liked it.
• 57:12
  He's only seen 5 movies.
• 57:15
  Top 5 movies to see before you die. Yeah, you know, Bernie's. Yeah, bring it. Bernie's 2. Yes, Cry Kid 3.
• 57:23
  Yeah.
• 57:26
  Uh, and then a couple others. Cry Kid 4.
• 57:28
  Also, it does— it only counts as Weekend at Bernie's if, like, if it's been a couple days since—
• 57:35
  oh, I think they say it's only Weekend at Bernie's if it comes from the Bernie region of France. Otherwise, that's just sparkling Bernie.
• 57:42
  No, I was gonna say, uh, Weekend at Bernie's 2, really? I mean, unless it's been like a whole full week to get back to Friday again, I guess like it's technically not even Weekend at Bernie's anymore, right?
• 57:53
  Oh God, yeah, it's like midweek at Bernie's.
• 57:56
  Yeah.
• 57:56
  All right, well, not to be outdone, about a year earlier, April 8th, 2005, Leroy Marco had this to say. Is this supposed to be funny? This flick is worth one big yawn. It's awful. It's pretending to be a slapstick comedy, but there's just one or two good laughs, like when the two idiots are jumping on the ferry. Oh,
• 58:21
  that's one of the funniest moments.
• 58:23
  The idea is somehow original, but it's poorly developed. Making love to a dead man— are we supposed to laugh at that? They didn't— they didn't make love to a dead man, but if they did, I would have laughed. I know the, the girl supposedly went up there, but if the 2 dudes—
• 58:40
  those 2 dudes had done it, yeah, that would be kind of funny.
• 58:43
  He is dead. Let's see what's the worst that could happen.
• 58:45
  Let's just see what he's got.
• 58:46
  Yeah. The movie is sometimes way too slow. The director could have easily shaved 30 minutes from his film. And Andrew McCarthy is so annoying. Seems he's always shouting. Can't he talk like a regular human being? Hmm. Skip this one. In fact, I saw the sequel back in the mid-'90s, and even though I've got almost no memory of it, I think I preferred it to the first one.
• 59:13
  Wow. Okay.
• 59:15
  Seen at home in Toronto on April 9th, 2005. 52 out of 100, 0 stars out of 4. 9 found it helpful, 13 not so much. One out of ten.
• 59:32
  He he gave it a lot of different types of ratings. I know.
• 59:35
  That's why I wanted to read this when I saw like there's so many different levels here that make zero sense.
• 59:41
  It doesn't make sense at all. Fifty
• 59:42
  two out of a hundred should be two out of four.
• 59:45
  Yeah, that's about half. Yeah.
• 59:48
  Yes.
• 59:49
  What does that mean? Why is it different for each rating?
• 59:52
  Fifty two out of a hundred, zero star out of four. One out of ten.
• 59:56
  One out of ten is not even close. It'd be a five, a little over five.
• 59:59
  None of it makes sense.
• 1:00:01
  What a bold choice! Wow!
• 1:00:02
  What a bold choice!
• 1:00:04
  I bet you the scene he remembers from Wicked Birds Two is him dancing. I'm guaranteeing it. That's all he remembers. That's why he thinks it's better.
• 1:00:11
  Probably.
• 1:00:13
  Well, we made it through the month, and you know what we have to do now?
• 1:00:17
  Oh, it's time.
• 1:00:18
  Keith's got his little list making chubby.
• 1:00:20
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:21
  We gotta go climb up to the mountain where Keith resides with his tablet. And he writes down as we decree our ratings.
• 1:00:28
  Our ratings.
• 1:00:29
  I'm the official archivist of the, uh, Bumbledome here.
• 1:00:33
  So just as a quick review, Keith, what were the movies again?
• 1:00:37
  Alice, Sweet Alice.
• 1:00:38
  Yes.
• 1:00:38
  Audition.
• 1:00:39
  Yes.
• 1:00:40
  Wake and Fright.
• 1:00:41
  Uh-huh.
• 1:00:42
  Weekend at Bernie's.
• 1:00:43
  Weekend at Bernie's. I have mine.
• 1:00:45
  I have mine as well.
• 1:00:46
  All right, it goes Audition.
• 1:00:48
  Yep.
• 1:00:49
  Wake and Fright. Alice Sweet Alice, Weekend at Bernie's.
• 1:00:56
  Wow, you took a long time to think between those 2.
• 1:00:58
  Well, those last 2 is one of those where they were fighting for 3rd.
• 1:01:03
  Okay, um, I am going with Audition Number One, followed by Alice Sweet Alice. Oh, Weekend at Bernie's. And then
• 1:01:14
  you disliked Wake and Fright that much, huh?
• 1:01:17
  Yeah, yeah, it's
• 1:01:19
  all
• 1:01:19
  right.
• 1:01:20
  For me, it's Audition, one of the best movies we've seen for the show, uh, and then Wake and Fright. And then I'm with Derek, this is the battle. I don't know, I'd probably go, uh, Alice Sweet Alice, I guess, just because I like the vibe of it. And then Weekend at Bernie's.
• 1:01:38
  Yeah, I didn't want to do Weekend at Bernie's at 3 because I would feel its recency bias because it's the freshest movie in my head. Because it really wasn't that good of a movie. It was fine, right? But it's not like— it wasn't a 52 out of 100.
• 1:01:53
  It also wasn't a 1 out of 10.
• 1:01:55
  It definitely wasn't a 0 out of 4 stars.
• 1:01:58
  No. Yeah, but 52 out of 100 is too high, I think, and 1 out of 10 is too low. It's somewhere in between.
• 1:02:05
  I feel like I would like this movie better if I had seen it for the first time. I just— not so recently, but recently enough I've seen it already. I was like really bored watching this.
• 1:02:14
  Like, you did fight. You didn't even have to watch it again.
• 1:02:16
  I didn't really. I was like kind of browsing my phone a little bit, like looking up like, oh yeah, here's the good part, you know? Like, okay, now they're going around playing board games. Okay, whatever. Like,
• 1:02:24
  yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:26
  I really wish you would dance during this.
• 1:02:28
  Yeah, I was like, wasn't this the dance scene? And like, oh wait, then I busted out my disc of Breaking a Bridge 2, started watching that.
• 1:02:37
  I guess now we have the very important—
• 1:02:41
  Yes, I'm excited.
• 1:02:43
  I have to, I have to give you guys the next month's assignment.
• 1:02:48
  Yes.
• 1:02:49
  Now there's a little work that goes with this because—
• 1:02:51
  Month 12, month 12 for those people.
• 1:02:53
  Month 12 for those scoring at home.
• 1:02:55
  Well,
• 1:02:56
  Fumbler's Month 12, not calendar month.
• 1:02:59
  This, this is going to be— I'm going to give you The, the initial premise, and then you have to wait for me to clarify.
• 1:03:08
  Okay, I won't react, or maybe I'll react a little bit.
• 1:03:11
  Well, keep it internal.
• 1:03:13
  Okay, I won't react at all.
• 1:03:14
  Next month is you have to choose a movie you've never seen before.
• 1:03:21
  Oh,
• 1:03:21
  but there's more. It's not just any movie you haven't seen before. I went to Reddit and I posted a question.
• 1:03:29
  Oh,
• 1:03:30
  and I said, what's your— how have you not seen this movie? And I put an example. Mine's Road to Perdition. If people have never— people haven't seen Road to Perdition, I, I tell them to watch it, right? Like, it's stuff going on for it. Did this the other day. It has 493 comments. Whoa, you have to choose a movie that is suggested from r/movies on Reddit on this thread that you've never seen before.
• 1:03:58
  I've never seen. Wow.
• 1:04:00
  And I guarantee there are movies that you haven't seen in this. There's some I've never even heard of.
• 1:04:06
  And I bet there's a huge variety.
• 1:04:07
  There's some that are really old. You know what's also on there? Walkabout. So there's the thread.
• 1:04:15
  Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm very excited about this.
• 1:04:19
  And I've— to get So I don't know if this is just because I asked a good question or I followed, uh, with the ChatGPT and I said, how can I make a Reddit post that'll get traction? It's like, don't use this as a title. Yeah. That's the most comments I've ever gotten anything on Reddit. 493 responses. So out of that, I went through and I'm like, well, I gotta pick a movie I've never seen before. And so I chose from 2006 It's called The Fall.
• 1:04:51
  The Fall?
• 1:04:52
  Yes. In 1920s Los Angeles, a bedridden patient in a hospital captivates a young girl with a fantastic tale of heroes, myths, and villains on a desert island.
• 1:05:03
  Whoa.
• 1:05:04
  Now it's from 2006. There's several other The Falls, so don't be fooled.
• 1:05:12
  2006. Tarasim Singh is who directed it?
• 1:05:15
  Yes.
• 1:05:16
  Okay.
• 1:05:17
  Um, an American movie.
• 1:05:19
  It is?
• 1:05:20
  Yes. Okay, well, that's, that, that's the month. Movies you've never seen before, but as suggested by r/movies. We got through a month. We got through spooky month, and it really wasn't too terribly spooky.
• 1:05:35
  And you know what I thought was really cool is we started like leading into it. We did Slither for the previous wheel. And technically, I mean, Bernie's a dead body that they're kind of like moving. That is true. So I mean, we have a little horror aspect still maybe kind of floating around there.
• 1:05:52
  An animated corpse.
• 1:05:54
  Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Not reanimated, just an animated—
• 1:05:57
  No, she just got animated.
• 1:05:58
  Oh, the old-fashioned way by hand.
• 1:05:59
  Yeah. Hand animated.
• 1:06:01
  I
• 1:06:02
  miss the day where we would hand animate all our corpses instead of— Yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Instead of using necromancy.
• 1:06:07
  Yeah.
• 1:06:09
  Well, I guess that leaves us with nothing to do than end this the way we end everything. Yes?
• 1:06:15
  Yes.
• 1:06:16
  The last dance! Come on, everyone, let's
• 1:06:18
  join in! Arnold, this is the last dance. Come on, one time. You won't be embarrassed. I'm not gonna dance. I want to eat. Forget you, Arnold. Forget me, Brenda. Sit
• 1:06:32
  down!
• 1:06:55
  He's leading the walk.
• 1:06:57
  His day— his walk is amazing.
• 1:07:05
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