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Oli Marmol & Derrick Goold Clash in Cardinals Postgame · Kenny Wallace Media

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  What's up everybody, Charlie Marlow here got to jump on and
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  talk about this post game press conference last night after the
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  Cardinals lost to the Rockies. Ali Marmole, the skipper and
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  Derrick Gould of the Saint Louis Post Dispatch kind of going at
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  it, I think it's fair to say. First of all, you should check
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  out the clip. Valley Sports Midwest put it out
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  in its entirety. I believe the clip they put out
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  was about 6 minutes, I think in 22 seconds.
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  So you should watch the whole clip so you have some context
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  and perspective of what I'm about to talk about.
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  Beautiful day, beautiful morning here in St.
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  Louis, MO. Not too hot, not too cold, but
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  OK. So first of all, look, Ali
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  Marmol is frustrated. We all get it.
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  The Cardinals lose their second game of the three so far to the
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  Rockies. You have the series finale
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  today, but just check the old standings.
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  The Rockies are one of the worst teams in all of baseball.
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  The Cardinals are now in last place in the National League
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  Central. But I just, I just thought that
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  the post game was really, really interesting.
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  So there were there were several questions between Derek and
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  Ollie that led to what what happened at the end.
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  So and and look, I'm paraphrasing here.
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  So, so please go watch the clip, but I think it started with so,
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  so Derek was asking about errors, but also, you know, non
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  plays that aren't called errors. And he used the, the phrase
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  attention to detail, which I, I don't, I don't take offense to.
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  I, I think Ali, Ali took some offense to that insinuating and
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  he explained this, that he looks at attention to detail like the
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  guys aren't prepared. So you can understand why a
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  manager would take offense of that.
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  Although I don't think that's what Derek meant.
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  I'm not sure. I don't want to speak for him.
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  But sometimes also you just don't say the perfect thing.
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  I don't think in that specific case Derek had any ill intent.
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  But I think, look, man, Ollie is frustrated.
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  This team is not very good at all.
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  They're very mediocre. They've played better, obviously
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  the last three weeks or so. Let's give them credit.
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  But they're not a good team and they're losing games to one of
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  the worst teams in baseball. So, OK, that was the that was
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  the first one, not, not a big deal.
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  And I get it. Look, if you're a manager and a
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  coach and, and, and you think somebody's calling you out that
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  you're not getting your guys prepared, I would take offense
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  to that as well. On the other hand, though, let's
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  be real. Do you do you think answer me
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  this? Do you think Ali Marmol and his
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  coaching staff, do they do a great job of getting these guys
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  prepared? Do they do they add value to the
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  team? I think that's a fair question
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  to ask. Certainly after after a couple
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  seasons, especially, especially look a couple seasons ago when
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  the guys the Cardinals expected to be the pitching coach and
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  Mike Maddox and the hitting coach and Jeff Albert left
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  pretty unexpectedly. So I think it's certainly fair
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  to question if this if this coaching staff and and Ali
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  Marmol staff and himself, you know, are they a value add when
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  it comes to helping this team get ready.
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  Now, again, look, I've said this a million times.
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  Ali is not the the first guy I'd ever blame.
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  Coaching staff is not the first group of guys I'd ever blame.
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  It's it's Mosaic, it's DeWitt. And really, especially
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  offensively, the first month or so, it comes down to the
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  players. It comes down to no one Arenado,
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  Paul Goldschmidt, guys that are making twenty five $30 million a
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  year to come through. But in this particular video
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  we're doing, we're talking about what happened last night and the
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  coaching staff. So that's why I brought that up.
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  And then I I think the next question, you know, Derek asked
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  about the the middle of the order has to get going.
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  Like I just said, I mean, look, it's it's got to be Nolan
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  Arenado at some point and Paul Goldschmidt that leads this
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  offense. And and Ollie kind of I think in
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  fun, but sarcastically said, well, yeah, isn't that every
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  offense? Doesn't every offense the middle
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  of the order? Isn't that where the production
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  comes? And I get it.
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  I also, I don't I don't think Derek was asking these questions
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  to try to get Ollie. And I'm not down there anymore.
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  OK, just so everybody knows. So I don't know the dynamics
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  between all of the reporters. I really don't.
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  I have not been down at Cardinals on any type of
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  consistent basis since what, 2021?
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  And really my last two years in TV were weird.
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  COVID years, 2020 and 2021 where you didn't even have great
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  access at all because of all the Zoom crap.
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  So I honestly feel like I've been super detached from being
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  there and knowing the players and knowing any of the staff
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  really. I mean, honestly, since that
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  spring training 2020 when COVID hit and the whole world changed,
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  that's the last time I really was around the players a lot.
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  And that's freaking what we're talking over four years ago.
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  So I'm just trying to to say I don't know the exact dynamic
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  between Derek and Ollie, but I, I watch all the I watch all the
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  post games and I, I try to consume as much content as
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  possible. And David Solomon from 590, the
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  fan gets a lot of audio and sends it and emails it to me.
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  And I try to listen as much as that as possible.
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  So, but then the thing that I think was, was really
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  interesting was at the end. And so, so Derek's asking the
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  questions. I don't remember exactly.
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  Oh, I, I think what happened was, so Ollie says, I don't mean
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  to push back. And I think that was about the
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  middle of the order. So Ollie says something along
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  the lines of, you know, I don't mean to push back, but you know,
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  yesterday you're in the back row.
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  We come back, we do some things. You don't ask any questions
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  today. You know, we lose the game.
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  And so the line that Ali says is now you're in the front row like
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  a kid in the candy store, asking a bunch of questions.
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  And Ali's, Ali's smiling as he says it.
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  And so Derek replies, and you guys should really go watch the
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  clip, Watch the clip. It's a good clip.
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  But Derek replies, And that's because yesterday I wasn't
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  writing. So I don't know if Derek was
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  just in the post game. He wasn't writing, but he's
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  sitting back there. He's just kind of watching
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  because he's still the beat writer.
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  But there, to me, it really shows the frustration from Ollie
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  Marmol. Look, man, and by the way, I'm
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  all for it because this team is boring and what happened last
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  night was way more interesting than these games in my opinion.
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  But I thought that was immature on Ollie's part.
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  Whatever you think. Look, Derrick Gould is really
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  good at his job. He's been doing it for a long
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  time. He'll probably be in the
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  freaking Baseball Hall of Fame down the road in the writers
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  wing, whatever they call that. He, he is a professional.
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  He is a professional. And look, I understand he's
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  doing his job. He's asking questions.
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  Ali Marmole is frustrated. He's not happy.
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  Maybe he thinks Derek's going after him.
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  I don't know. But the insinuation in that
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  comment is, oh, Derek is happy. Basically, like the day before
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  Cardinals win, Derek doesn't ask any questions.
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  Oh, next day, Cardinals lose. Derek Gould is like a kid in the
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  candy store who can't wait to dig in there.
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  And he's so happy that the Cardinals lost and he can he can
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  kind of get Ollie with his questions.
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  I thought that was very, very immature to me.
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  Like really, anybody watching this video, you guys like the
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  Cardinals. You love the Cardinals.
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  Derrick Gould has been around for a long time.
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  I've been in Saint Louis since 2008, covering the team in some
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  capacity. He's been here way before me.
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  So you guys, you know of Derrick Gould, you've read him, you've
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  heard him on the radio. He's on 590.
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  Bernie Nicholas, I mean, you know, Derrick Gold.
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  So I mean, does Derrick Gold seem like the type of guy who's
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  excited he's happy the Cardinals lost, right?
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  He's happy the Cardinals lost so he can get after Ollie and
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  really kind of stick it to him. Come on.
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  Don't you think that's BSI thought that was very immature
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  on Ollie's part, but also it's super entertaining.
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  So I'm not mad that he did it. But my thing with Ollie all
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  along, and again, I just want to reiterate, it's more on Mozalak,
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  it's more on DeWitt, it's more on the players.
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  But Ollie and his coaching staff are also to blame, in my
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  opinion, for a lot that's gone on the last year and a half.
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  It's on everybody. You know, last year the baseball
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  was bad. It was sloppy defense, base
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  running. This year, I think it's hard to
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  blame Ollie when the offense is so awful.
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  Remember last year the pitching was awful.
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  Again, that's not all on Ollie, but did it take too long for the
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  coaching staff to help dig these players out of that offensive
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  slump? I think that is that's fair.
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  You know, is is this this is not a a veteran big league coaching
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  staff. It's not the Dave Duncan of the
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  past, You know, Mark McGuire when he was here back in the
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  day. So I think it's fair to say, you
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  know, how how good are these guys?
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  And my thing with Ollie has always been too.
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  I just with Ollie, I just always feel like he's been just a
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  little too big for his britches. And you may take offends me
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  saying that, but just I feel like he carries himself like a
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  guy who has won two World Series.
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  I like the confidence. I know he's young.
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  I know he never played in the big leagues.
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  I think some guys have a chip on their shoulder because of that.
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  He's very confident. I like the way he explains
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  things. I really do.
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  But I just think sometimes you have to earn your keep.
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  Even as a manager. That first year Cardinals were
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  really good. You know, Albert was amazing.
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  I do think he bungled game one and versus the Phillies.
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  We can debate that if you'd like.
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  Last year was terrible. This year is mediocre.
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  And again, it's not all on Ally, but, but the manager has a very
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  significant job. So tell me what you guys think.
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  Do you think that's fair? And, and this, I feel like it
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  always goes back to the Tyler O'Neill thing with me.
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  But I just felt like when he publicly called out Tyler
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  O'Neill last year, I just, I really did not think that was
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  the way to handle that situation.
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  I have not heard one professional athlete tell me
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  over the last year or so that they agreed with, with how he
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  handled that. And that's where I just think
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  sometimes I, I think you got to earn your keep a little bit.
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  I do. I like the confidence.
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  Hey, you are a big league manager.
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  You got to protect your players. You got to go out there, you got
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  to defend your players with the UMS and all that.
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  But I think sometimes you also have to earn your keep.
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  And I think sometimes Ali carries himself like he's won
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  multiple World Series and I don't know, I don't, I don't
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  know how Tony Larussa acted before he won World Series.
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  I only covered him and interacted with him after he'd
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  won, what, 2 World Series? Then he won the third, obviously
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  in 2011. So I don't know, that's just
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  kind of my deal. I can't be too mad at it though,
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  because I do like how Ali challenges reporters in the post
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  games. I think it's very interesting.
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  It makes for good television. So again, I can't, I can't
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  really complain. I'm just trying to give you my
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  thoughts. Those are my real thoughts.
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  I'm kind of thinking through it as I go, but all right, let me
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  know comment, like subscribe, give me your opinions on what
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  happened. Is it a big deal?
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  Is it not a big deal? Are you taking Ollie side, Derek
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  side or you think it's a little bit of both and you think it's
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  just a nothing much. I I do think the post game was
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  very interesting though. So go back and watch the clip
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  from Valley sports Midwest and have a great Sunday.
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  Go Battlehawks. I might actually watch the
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  Battlehawks game tonight. I don't really think I've
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  watched hardly any of the Battlehawks this year, but if
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  they win, I think I'm even going to go next week to the
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  championship game if they win. So have a great Sunday.
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  Everybody go Cardinals, go Battle Hawks.
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  Peace out. Comment like subscribe.