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The Bolt Report | 17 June · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Gives the report good evening.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Danikiti Giorgio filling in tonight on the show Coming Up.
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  Speaker 3: Sky News journalist.
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  Speaker 2: Chung Lai is shockingly blocked by Chinese officials in our
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  Speaker 2: nation's Parliament house as the Prime Minister Cozy's up to China.
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  Speaker 2: He claims he's not aware of the incident. Stand by
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  Speaker 2: to see the moment Albanesi was grilled while Albo was
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  Speaker 2: busy banding around terms like worse than Scott Morrison on
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  Speaker 2: climate Peter Dutton has gone right ahead and edged out
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  Speaker 2: Albanesi is preferred. PM is Albo's second term under threat,
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  Speaker 2: and new data suggests what we've long suspected, the tills
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  Speaker 2: a labor aligned Who would have thought but first Australia
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  Speaker 2: has rolled out the red carpet for Chinese Premier Lee
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  Speaker 2: Kwung's visit Downer. Yeah, full ceremony and even a toast
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  Speaker 2: to the People's Republic.
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  Speaker 4: So allow me to once again welcome you to Australia
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  Speaker 4: and invite everyone to join me in a toast to
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  Speaker 4: the President and the People's Republic of China. To the
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  Speaker 4: President and the people of the People's Republic of China.
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  Speaker 2: It's all smiles and happiness. And yesterday you'll remember the
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  Speaker 2: cushy panda diplomacy at Adelaide Zoo, where Premier Lee observed
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  Speaker 2: Yang Wang and Funi to Chinese pandas about to be
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  Speaker 2: shipped back to Beijing. But don't worry, China has presented
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  Speaker 2: us with a gift of another two panda replacements.
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  Speaker 3: It's all very sweet and very cute, isn't it The
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  Speaker 3: catch here? It feels more like propaganda than panda.
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  Speaker 2: According to Ben Packham and The Australian, Australia has so
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  Speaker 2: little trust in China that some officials involved in the visit,
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  Speaker 2: including in ministerial offices, have been issued with temporary Berna
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  Speaker 2: foams to protect their data from Chinese spies who are
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  Speaker 2: assumed to be traveling with Lee's delegation. But you won't
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  Speaker 2: hear about that in front of the cameras and the
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  Speaker 2: picture opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: Instead, you'll hear this.
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  Speaker 4: Australia and China have renewed and revitalized our engagement. We've
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  Speaker 4: grewed across a range of MOUs and arrangements today that
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  Speaker 4: will continue to shape and drive our practical cooperation. As
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  Speaker 4: we continued the process of stabilizing the relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Now, of course we need to have a robust, open
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  Speaker 2: channel relationship with China. But the elephant in the room
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  Speaker 2: remains because in the background of Prime Minister Albanesi and
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  Speaker 2: Premier Leese remarks in Cameberra, Chinese officials attempted to block
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  Speaker 2: Sky News journalist Chung Lay from being viewed by cameras. Extraordinary,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it. A journalist in Australia is blocked by the
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  Speaker 2: Chinese on home soil, in a country where we have
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  Speaker 2: free press and democracy which isn't compromised. And here is
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  Speaker 2: Chung Lai, who was detained in a Chinese prison for
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  Speaker 2: three years, explaining the incident.
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  Speaker 3: Went to lengths.
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  Speaker 5: To block me from the cameras and to flank me.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm only guessing that is to prevent me from
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  Speaker 5: saying something or doing something that they think would be
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  Speaker 5: a bad look.
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  Speaker 6: But that itself was a bad look.
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  Speaker 3: It was a terrible look.
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  Speaker 2: How can Australia be boasting of reset relations when something
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  Speaker 2: like this happens in our own parliament. It's a display
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  Speaker 2: of the same heavy handness we have seen time and
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  Speaker 2: time again by China, and now it's happening on our
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  Speaker 2: own home soil.
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  Speaker 5: Is it acceptable to import that kind of behavior into.
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  Speaker 7: The heart of Australia's democracy.
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  Speaker 2: Here in Parliament House?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I didn't see that.
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  Speaker 1: I saw.
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  Speaker 4: Chang lay and we smiled at each other during during
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  Speaker 4: the event. Look, I'm not aware of those issues. It's
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  Speaker 4: important that people be allowed to participate fully and that's
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  Speaker 4: what should happen in this building or anywhere else in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: He's not aware, he's not aware. Where have we heard
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  Speaker 2: that line before.
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  Speaker 4: I've been traveling in the car, so I haven't been
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  Speaker 4: advised about that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Look, it's the same old answer, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, China does what it does best, adopting nothing to
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  Speaker 2: see here attitude, and Anthony Albanezi obliges.
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  Speaker 9: It's not credible, Tom.
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  Speaker 10: It's been publicly reported earlier this year that the Prime
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  Speaker 10: Minister employs eleven media advisors in his office. Standard operating
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  Speaker 10: procedure for a meta advisor is to brief your principle
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  Speaker 10: on recent breaking events before they go out into a
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  Speaker 10: press conference. It is completely not credible the Promeister did
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  Speaker 10: not know when he walked into the press conference that
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  Speaker 10: this incident happened.
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  Speaker 2: It does seem very odd that he would not have
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  Speaker 2: seen the video of chung Li.
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  Speaker 3: It's all over the news.
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  Speaker 2: His team would have known, but he is so scared
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  Speaker 2: of upsetting China. He has proven time and time again
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  Speaker 2: he does not have the strength to stand up to Beijing.
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  Speaker 2: You remember in November, two Navy divers were injured after
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  Speaker 2: they were subjected to sonar pulses from a Chinese warship
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  Speaker 2: during an operation in international waters on HMAS to Woomba.
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  Speaker 2: Earlier this year, a Chinese fighter jet dropped flares in
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  Speaker 2: front of an Australian Navy helicopter in a near catastrophic incident.
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  Speaker 4: This action by China was unprofessional and unacceptable. Look, this
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  Speaker 4: is unacceptable and it was unprofessional. We have made very
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  Speaker 4: strong representations at every level to China about this incident,
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  Speaker 4: which we regard as unprofessional and unacceptable.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure Beijing was shaking in its boots. What about
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  Speaker 2: China's punitive trade sanctions on twenty billion dollars worth of
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  Speaker 2: Australian goods. And they aren't exactly rushing to drop the
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  Speaker 2: remaining bands on lobster fisheries and beef abatoars. And yet
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  Speaker 2: labor is acting as if China has done us a
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  Speaker 2: favor in dropping the other sanctions, only the current government
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  Speaker 2: would see this as a win.
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  Speaker 3: The return to status quo is not a win.
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  Speaker 1: Would be for improved.
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  Speaker 2: Trade, not a removal of punishment trade. So the joke
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  Speaker 2: is on us again. Now is Albo going to front
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  Speaker 2: up and ask the tough questions of Premier League, including
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  Speaker 2: the human rights abuses, the plight of jailed Australian pro
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  Speaker 2: democracy writer doctor Yang Hen John.
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  Speaker 4: I certainly raised our issues in the Pacific as well
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  Speaker 4: as other issues, including including human rights including doctor Young's case,
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  Speaker 4: as well as the the Australians who are on death row.
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  Speaker 4: We of course in Australia post capital punishment, and I
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  Speaker 4: reiterated our position there.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go, he says he has, but will
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  Speaker 2: Beijing listen to the handsome boy from Australia. I think
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  Speaker 2: Johannes Leek summed it up perfectly in his cartoon in
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  Speaker 2: the Australian Anthony Peckingheese holding the hand of Premier Lee
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  Speaker 2: with Aleisha around him, saying, see, it is possible to
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  Speaker 2: stabilize the relationship and maintain our self respect. So it's
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  Speaker 2: the backdrop of pandas the smiling, the handsome man from Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Serious issues remain, but what is clear is labor is
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  Speaker 2: a dream for the CCP. Now to the National Disability
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  Speaker 2: Insurance Scheme, the most bungled disastrous scheme in this country
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  Speaker 2: right now that could blow out to ninety billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: a year by.
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  Speaker 3: The end of the decade.
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  Speaker 2: The Daily Telegraph has today revealed Dungeons and Dragons gaming
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  Speaker 2: nights and lego based therapy are just some of the
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  Speaker 2: services being advertised in an emerging online marketplace for ends
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  Speaker 2: participants just pend their taxpayer funds on now have a
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  Speaker 2: look at this. The pages on Facebook are linking participants
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  Speaker 2: to everything from cleaners to dog groomers, to fishing camps,
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  Speaker 2: lego based therapy. They offer NDS four wheel drive weekends,
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  Speaker 2: luxury accommodations, ski trips, excursions to the movies. Several people
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  Speaker 2: also promote Dungeons and Dragons gaming nights, and they're also
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  Speaker 2: posts from NDS participants seeking services, including one requesting hug
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  Speaker 2: therapy and another a couple of handy men to help
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  Speaker 2: paint a home. The Daily Telegraph says the overwhelming majority
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  Speaker 2: of the businesses advertising on these pages and not officially
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  Speaker 2: NDS registered, So basically every matter and their dog can
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  Speaker 2: set up shop and offer these services, get a slice
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  Speaker 2: of the pie for themselves.
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  Speaker 3: And who's paying us? Of course the taxpayers.
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  Speaker 2: The NDIS was originally designed for the most severely disabled,
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  Speaker 2: but it's being rotted, there is poor regulation, and it
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  Speaker 2: is costing US billions. It already costs more than Medicare
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  Speaker 2: and will soon outstrip defense. And where is the NDIS
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  Speaker 2: Minister Bill Shorten, you ask, He's at a peace summit
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  Speaker 2: for Ukraine in Switzerland.
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  Speaker 11: I extend Australia's warm thanks to Switzerland for hosting this
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  Speaker 11: important event and reader at our commitment to peace, prosperity
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  Speaker 11: and stability.
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  Speaker 2: What on earth has the Ukraine War got to do
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  Speaker 2: with his portfolio?
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  Speaker 3: And the Minister for endis, I mean the roots, the.
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  Speaker 2: Cost blowouts, the dungeons and Dragons gaming sessions are certainly
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  Speaker 2: not on the agenda of Ukraine's President volodimire Zelenski. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you'd think Bill Shorton has enough on his plate already,
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  Speaker 2: given the NDIS is being raughted by two billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: a year. Instead, he's outbrokering peace, moonlighting as the Minister
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  Speaker 2: for foreign affairs on the global stage at an event
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  Speaker 2: attended by the German Chancellor, the French President and the
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  Speaker 2: US Vice President, A point not lost either on Liberal
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  Speaker 2: Senator Dave Shalma.
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  Speaker 7: The National Disability Insurance scheme Bill Shorden's creation. Bill Shorden's
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  Speaker 7: portfolio responsibility is in christ This should be Bill Shorden's
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  Speaker 7: number one priority. But instead he's going off to Switzerland
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  Speaker 7: freelancing in diplomacy, attending a Ukrainian peace summit, something completely
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  Speaker 7: outside his portfolio, area of responsibility and frankly outside his
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  Speaker 7: area of expertise. Where is the Foreign Minister on this?
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  Speaker 2: Bill Shorten has been in this role for more than
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  Speaker 2: two years now. The scheme is in a mess and
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  Speaker 2: it's costing us a bomb. Joining me now is our
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  Speaker 2: Monday panel former Labor Senator Stephen Conroy and former Speaker
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  Speaker 2: of the House Broman Bishop.
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  Speaker 9: Hi to you both.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on the show
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  Speaker 2: this evening. Look, let's start, of course with China and
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  Speaker 2: Premier Leese visit Bromwin. The Prime Minister says, this relationship
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  Speaker 2: with Beijing is being renewed.
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  Speaker 3: Yet in the background, as we've seen, they tried to.
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  Speaker 2: Block journalist Sky News journalist Chung Lei from being in
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  Speaker 2: sight of the cameras at a precedent, I just find
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  Speaker 2: it extraordinary.
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  Speaker 9: How would you describe this?
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  Speaker 6: I describe it as cringeworthy.
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  Speaker 12: I was, as an Australian embarrassed by the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 12: of my country and his behavior, that pathetic performance about
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  Speaker 12: not having been.
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  Speaker 6: Made aware of it.
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  Speaker 12: Oh, I smiled at Chinge, but I didn't see those
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  Speaker 12: heavies come in front of him blocker.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the man just is not up to the job.
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  Speaker 12: I've said again and again twenty years plus in that
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  Speaker 12: chamber with that man, nobody ever said he was a leader,
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  Speaker 12: and we see it on dis play, and that behavior
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  Speaker 12: in our parliament to an Australian citizen who had been
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  Speaker 12: in prison by those that government is absolutely unbelievable. So
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  Speaker 12: Panda diplomacy, all the positive niceties in the woods and
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  Speaker 12: they were words. There was not much substance there all
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  Speaker 12: of that. The reality is that he is weak. He
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  Speaker 12: does cowtow, he does kiss the hand that holds the whip.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we saw that today. Doesn't know it's again,
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  Speaker 2: it's just nothing to see here. Attitude when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to China Stephen. How can it be believed that he
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  Speaker 2: didn't see what had happened, or at least didn't hear
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 3: He's got eleven media advisors.
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  Speaker 2: Surely one of them has told him, hey, this could
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  Speaker 2: be breaking news.
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  Speaker 13: Well, I'm just going to respond to a few of frankly,
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  Speaker 13: your opening comments, your loaded question and Bromwin's usual invective.
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  Speaker 13: So let's peak clear. Bromwin, you were voting for renditions
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  Speaker 13: from Australia to legal in legislation when you were in Parliament.
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  Speaker 13: Disgraceful Labor said it would oppose it Bill Shorten Anthony
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  Speaker 13: LPNs and they would oppose it. When it comes to
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  Speaker 13: who's going to be tough? Well, look, you could try
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  Speaker 13: the approach I guess saying you're going to shirt front
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  Speaker 13: putin that work well made a big difference. You could
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  Speaker 13: humiliate yourselves on the international stage by making all sorts
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  Speaker 13: of threats that were completely ignored by China. The bottom
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  Speaker 13: line in dealing with Chinese, they don't care what we think.
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  Speaker 1: This is all theater for them.
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  Speaker 6: They don't we care what we don't know whether you.
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  Speaker 13: Scream at them, thanks bro, when I'll just finish. They
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  Speaker 13: care about not a word. We say, you can shout
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  Speaker 13: through a foghorn like the previous government did, or you
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  Speaker 13: could talk to them moderately, sensibly, get some trade barriers
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  Speaker 13: that were wrongly put up taken down. Neither of them
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  Speaker 13: will actually affect the way China want to behave. You've
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  Speaker 13: just got to look at their behavior in the South
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  Speaker 13: China Sea at the moment. They've just us legislation. They've
• 15:02
  Speaker 13: just passed legislation to say anyone they can detain anyone
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  Speaker 13: in the South China Sea in their territorial waters that
• 15:08
  Speaker 13: they want. Now that's targeted at other nations specifically, rather
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  Speaker 13: than Australia in general. But if they wanted to allegedly
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  Speaker 13: detain some Australian citizen who was sailing through without their
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  Speaker 13: permission or one of our warships, and you think they
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  Speaker 13: don't have freedom of navigation, So I just don't think.
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  Speaker 12: You think that Australian behavior, as it did today, in
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  Speaker 12: that weak fashion, is the right way to combat what
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  Speaker 12: you're just describing. It was the sort of communication.
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  Speaker 13: Rubbish, the fog horn diplomacy of Therior. Don't you don't
• 15:51
  Speaker 13: get to lecture labor. You should do a failed policy agenda,
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  Speaker 13: A failed policy. It wasn't a your team tried before
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  Speaker 13: the last election.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, Stephen. So that's the first The warrior.
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  Speaker 12: Treatment by China had finished before the twenty two election.
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  Speaker 12: It was already dropped because they saw it was counter
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  Speaker 12: productive for them. So don't go saying, look, we introduced
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  Speaker 12: communications and that's what's brought all this beautiful we can
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  Speaker 12: now sell wine to China.
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  Speaker 13: Nothing really, that's China's actual No, there's no change in
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  Speaker 13: China's actual behavior on the ground. They are competing to buy, steal,
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  Speaker 13: and bribe Pacific Island nations to their side.
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  Speaker 12: Of correct the Penny Wong's Penny Wong's policy happened.
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  Speaker 13: It happened on your watch. No, it didn't happened on
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  Speaker 13: your watch.
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  Speaker 12: Opened up an opportunity faults.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you both, the Foreign Minister for your.
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  Speaker 2: Government, I want to I want to ask you both
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  Speaker 2: about the Pacific Islands, because Penny Wong says that Peter
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Dutton's plan to ditch Australia's twenty thirty climate target will
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  Speaker 2: actually strengthen Beijing's hand in the permanent contest in the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Pacific Bromen, do you think that that is the case.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that Tonga really care about Australia's abissions targets.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, they care about climate change very much, but they
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  Speaker 12: also appreciate the support we give them. They appreciated during
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  Speaker 12: the COVID emergency. They appreciated that we gave them vaccines.
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  Speaker 12: They appreciate that we give them finance to reconstruct their economies.
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  Speaker 12: They appreciate our defense and our assistance that we give them.
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  Speaker 6: But the question is that there's no two ways about it.
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  Speaker 12: China is trying to buy those Pacific island states and
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  Speaker 12: then bankrupt them when they can't repay the money there
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  Speaker 12: lint and then have total influence over them. But you
• 17:51
  Speaker 12: don't combat that by saying, as Penny Wong has done,
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  Speaker 12: that it's all about climate change and targets, because it's not.
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  Speaker 12: The question is are we there as their best neighbor.
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  Speaker 12: We have the policy where we let workers come into
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  Speaker 12: Australia where we where we have policies that make.
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  Speaker 6: Us a good neighbor.
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  Speaker 12: And for Penny Wong to come out and try to
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  Speaker 12: destroy that relationship by saying it's all about climate change
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  Speaker 12: is just shows what a mean girl she really is.
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  Speaker 3: Stephen, what's your response to that.
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  Speaker 13: Well, I'm glad Brohman is endorsing the actual policy initiatives
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  Speaker 13: that Penny Wong is engaged in under the countries. Maurice
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  Speaker 13: Maurice Paine, as you just said, failed to do her
• 18:37
  Speaker 13: job and she's got pat Conroy, Yeah, failed.
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  Speaker 1: To do her job. Thank you for agreeing again. So
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Labor is.
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  Speaker 13: Actually following through on those policies. We've had Richard Miles
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  Speaker 13: there all the time, Wall there all the time, Pat Conroy,
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  Speaker 13: pat Conroy there all the time, and now we've got
• 18:56
  Speaker 13: the latest initiative which to people in the Southern States,
• 18:59
  Speaker 13: brom when you I'm surprised that they're confused by this,
• 19:01
  Speaker 13: but rugby diplomacy where we're talking with about pops.
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  Speaker 12: You're guinea than you are and their love for rugby league.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm absolutely people from Victoria.
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  Speaker 13: People from Victoria won't get this, okay, but it is
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  Speaker 13: a massive issue that the government is pursuing. So Labor
• 19:24
  Speaker 13: is actually following through, not talking big words, not on
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  Speaker 13: the megaphone, actually delivering outcomes.
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  Speaker 12: Or policies in the in the in the Pacific Island
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  Speaker 12: States as I described them, were coalition policies in place
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  Speaker 12: before the election in twenty two.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: All right, let's move on because I want to coalition,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: not the I want to move on.
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  Speaker 2: I want to move on because I want to get
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: to you both on the NDIS. I've just spoken about
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  Speaker 2: the mess, and now we've got Dungeons and Dragons gaming
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: nights to add to a whole list of roots that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: we've been hearing about over the last few months.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Browin, the scheme is blowing out all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Every every month there's a new different rules, something different
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  Speaker 2: pops up. Well, but Stephen's laughing. This is not a
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  Speaker 2: laughable matter, Steven, it's costing.
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  Speaker 13: I'm laughing because I can't wait to see how Browin,
• 20:11
  Speaker 13: how Brodman wants to follow the same statement. These are
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  Speaker 13: the Liberal government's policies that have.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Led to these blowouts and raws. Bill, it's your policies.
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  Speaker 6: Bill Shorten created the NDIS.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: It was legislators for nine years.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: It was legislated by Labor and every time.
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  Speaker 9: A.
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  Speaker 1: Plenty of times in nine years.
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  Speaker 12: The Labor Party would say, oh, you're destroying the NDS
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: and attacking disabled people. So the problem with the scheme
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: is its original design. Now Bill Shorten's in charge of
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  Speaker 12: it now.
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  Speaker 6: And he's got to fix it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: And that means parameters correct, it means putting rules in that.
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  Speaker 12: Here is medical legislation is Medicare Parliament now, Stephen.
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  Speaker 2: The scheme was designed for the most severely disabled. And
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: now you've got about forty five percent everything.
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  Speaker 13: And that's why Bill shortened. Who hasslation?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Everyone is getting right now.
• 21:07
  Speaker 13: It's in Parliament today waiting for the Liberals.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Why is Bill shortening you? Why is Bill short and
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: out broker in piece for Ukraine?
• 21:15
  Speaker 13: Well, well, look, Bill Shorton has some experience. Bill Shorton
• 21:22
  Speaker 13: has some experience as a former leader for six years
• 21:26
  Speaker 13: in the world stage. Okay, he actually as leader had responsibilities.
• 21:30
  Speaker 13: But to your issuer, where is Penny one. She's actually
• 21:33
  Speaker 13: here dealing with a visit, the most senior visit in
• 21:36
  Speaker 13: seven years from the Chinese, with the Prime Minister and
• 21:39
  Speaker 13: a raft of other ministers.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: They're all involved here.
• 21:42
  Speaker 13: Bill Shorten is a significant contributor and leaders.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Right, all right, and he can't tax then.
• 21:52
  Speaker 13: He is over there legislation.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: In Parliament today. Vote for it, Bromwin and help fix
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the ruts.
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: Doesn't fit the raw and it's not about rats. It's
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: about the way in which Bill shortened, set it up.
• 22:05
  Speaker 12: It needs fundamental restructure for nine years.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe mining as a foreigners look just really quickly.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton has gained a narrow Leader's preferred Prime Minister
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in the latest Resolve poll thirty six to thirty five
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: percent over Anthony Aberanese Browin.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: You know we can't read much.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: This is one poll, but I've got to ask you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the Greens lifted their primary vote from twelve to fourteen percent.
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: What does that suggest, Well, it suggests like everybody else,
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: they see that the Prime minister is weak, floundering and
• 22:37
  Speaker 12: ineffective and nothing's going to hide that. And I've heard
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: Albanese you say again again, Oh I've never been bitten
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: in a poll.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Well, sorry, so I'm showing you have today.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it should. Should Labor be worried about this, Stephen.
• 22:51
  Speaker 13: Look, there's been a softening trend over the last six months.
• 22:54
  Speaker 13: The cost of living crisis is no question biting. But
• 22:57
  Speaker 13: what you'll see from the first of July is as
• 23:00
  Speaker 13: tax cuts come in, it's energy relief come in Australia, Agenda,
• 23:05
  Speaker 13: more jobs in Australia. So yes, certainly the government should
• 23:09
  Speaker 13: be paying very close attention to this it's heavily weighted
• 23:14
  Speaker 13: in Queensland where Peter Dutton is hit the most popular,
• 23:17
  Speaker 13: and that slightly because he's so popular in Queensland. That's
• 23:20
  Speaker 13: making the waiting around the rest of the country. But
• 23:22
  Speaker 13: if you took Queensland out and look to the rest
• 23:24
  Speaker 13: of the country, Albow is more popular than queen to
• 23:29
  Speaker 13: be replacements not for a moment. We only hold five
• 23:34
  Speaker 13: seats from and it's hard to be hard to do
• 23:36
  Speaker 13: much worse in Queensland than our current in the past
• 23:39
  Speaker 13: we've we have that as low as to yes, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: agree with you. So that's why we can't be complacent.
• 23:45
  Speaker 13: Labor should be absolutely not complacent about these polling. It
• 23:49
  Speaker 13: says that the settings that we've made, the changes in
• 23:52
  Speaker 13: the budget that come in on the first of July,
• 23:54
  Speaker 13: are necessarily important for the people of Australia.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: All right, look, we've got a little too Labor Ones.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: We've got to go, so love the debate tonight. Stephen
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Conroy browin Bishop, great to be with you.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us on the show
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: this evening.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Well let's move on now because we've heard today some
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: very interesting polling and we know that the tills They
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: were in a tiars last week over Peter Dutton flouting
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the possibility of ditching Australia's Net zero twenty thirty targets.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: But now new data has revealed the six tieral MPs
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: who won Blue ribbon seats off the Liberals and the
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: last electioner labor aligned in the House of Representatives. Who
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: would have thought Parliamentary Library research conducted for Queensland Liberal
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: MP Garth Hamilton shows the Teals voted in support of
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: labor bills during second reading divisions between seventy one percent
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and seventy four percent of the time in their first
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: two years in Parliament. Now the second reading is said
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: to be the most important stage that a bill must pass,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and Liberal MP Garth Hamilton joins me now, Garth, good
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: to see you as always.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: What exactly does the research tell us?
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  Speaker 8: Well, for those of us who follow politics closely, you,
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: me and most of your viewers, this is no surprise whatsoever.
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: We've seen the tills in action. They have been very
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: labor aligned all the way through. But I think to
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: the average punter out there, someone who doesn't pay that
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: much attention to politics, this will come as a bit
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: of a surprise. Because all of these Tials build themselves
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: as independence and it turns out actually they are one
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: hundred percent get right behind or seventy four percent I think, sorry,
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: seventy four percent get right behind Labour's agenda. And the
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: only time they disagree with Labor is when they think
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: Labor should go harder. So these are people who are
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: right behind everything mister Albineezi has been doing on the Voice,
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: on ir on renewables, on his inflationary budget, on every
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: one of these stages. The Tials have been the biggest
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: cheerleaders for Labor. They've been providing cover for this Labor
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: government in those small, ill liberal seats, and I think
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: it's good to call them out and reveal them for
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: who they are. Remember they did run on integrity.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Well that's what the mandate was, wasn't it. We run
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: on integrity vote? I see in But what do you think, Garth,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that this could mean. Then in the event of a
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: hung parliament, if Labor goes into minority, surely the Teals
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: will have a big, big say, well, I hope.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: We don't get there.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: The only people in Australia who want minority government are
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: the Tials and possibly the Greens who think that they
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: can gain more power out of this. Everyone else thinks
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: this is a terrible thing. We remember twenty ten to
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: twenty thirteen how much damage a minority government did and
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: how bad labor performed when tethered to the Greens. So
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: I think it's very clear that this data shows these
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: guys are labor aligned on all of those issues that
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: this labor government has driven through, some of them spectacularly
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: without mandate whatsoever. On every one of those issues, the
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: Teals are right there with labor. They will be very
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: keen to form government with labor. And what it tells
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: us if you want to stop this labor government, there
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: is only one way to do that. That is the VOELMP.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Look, it's a fascinating pol I've got to say, one
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: that you would think is unsurprising. Garth Hamilton, good to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: speak with you. Thanks so much for joining us this evening,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: or do stay with us coming up after the break.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: With the world more reliant on fossil fuels than ever
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: is net zero little more than wishful thinking plus police
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: clash with anti CCP protesters As Chinese Premier Kwanli arrives
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: in Canberra, Greg Sheridan will.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Join me next. Welcome back well.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: The Prime Minister says Australia and China have renewed and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: revitalized their engagement during a historic visit from the Chinese premier.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: The full panda diplomacy was on display. Yet outside Parliament,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: pro and anti Chinese protesters clashed.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: The National Disability Insurance game Bill Shorden's creation. Bill Shorden's
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: portfolio responsibility is in christ This should be Bill Shorden's
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: number one priority, but instead.
• 28:00
  Speaker 14: Need to burn it burn CCP, CZP criminal gup.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Away.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Dave Schama obviously has nothing to do with the protests
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: outside today, but they were quite tough scenes. Joining me
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: now is The Australian's Foreign Affairs editor, Greg Sheridan. Greg,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: good to see you, Anthony ABERESI would rather focus on
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the nice stories when it comes to China and this visit.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yet we have seen these clashes today.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Do you think that the Prime Minister cares about the
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: human rights abuse issues when he's trying to woo Premier League.
• 28:49
  Speaker 15: Well, Donika, great to be with you. I'd give the
• 28:51
  Speaker 15: alb government a mixed mixed report. I thought Petty Wong
• 28:55
  Speaker 15: was quite sensible. On Insiders on Sunday, listing some of
• 28:58
  Speaker 15: the things we disagree with China about and very importantly
• 29:01
  Speaker 15: saying we're in permanent strategic competition with China in the
• 29:04
  Speaker 15: South Pacific. I think this big Panda diplomacy visit is
• 29:08
  Speaker 15: all about trying to reset China in the Australian public
• 29:11
  Speaker 15: mind as a sweet and cuttly thing, whereas it's not
• 29:13
  Speaker 15: a sweet and cuttly thing. It's a vicious, brutal, totalitarian dictatorship.
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: And I think in several key ways the Prime Minister
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: has underperformed in this visit very very significantly. First of all,
• 29:25
  Speaker 15: on the Chung Li matter. Now it's not a huge incident.
• 29:28
  Speaker 15: I greatly admired Chung Lay, but this is not a
• 29:30
  Speaker 15: huge incident. It wasn't a fundamental breach of for human rights,
• 29:33
  Speaker 15: but it was absolutely improper behavior for foreign diplomats to
• 29:37
  Speaker 15: try to muscle their way around the Australian Parliament House. Now,
• 29:41
  Speaker 15: if Albaneze he wasn't briefed, he has the most incompetent
• 29:44
  Speaker 15: prime ministerial office in Sydney and the government is fast
• 29:47
  Speaker 15: asleep and should be sacked for incompetence. If he was briefed,
• 29:51
  Speaker 15: but wasn't game to simply say I don't want to
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: overblow this incident, but the Chinese officials were plainly out
• 29:56
  Speaker 15: of order. That's not the way we react, that's not
• 29:59
  Speaker 15: the way we treat journal in Australia. Well, then he's
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: at Coward and he has ceded an element of Australian
• 30:05
  Speaker 15: democracy to China. The same with the demonstrators. No other
• 30:09
  Speaker 15: embassy in Canberra can organize bus loads of demonstrators to
• 30:15
  Speaker 15: intimidate and influence Australian politics. That's inconsistent with diplomatic practice.
• 30:20
  Speaker 15: Imagine if the Australian embassy in Beijing tried it for
• 30:23
  Speaker 15: a single second. Now, governments of both persuasions the liberals
• 30:27
  Speaker 15: were as pathetic as on this as labor, have not
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: enforced on the Chinese embassy in Canberra the proper restrictions
• 30:35
  Speaker 15: which should apply to an embassy. God alone knows why
• 30:39
  Speaker 15: we allow so many Chinese diplomats to stay in this country.
• 30:42
  Speaker 15: And it is a standing rebuke to the pucill animity
• 30:47
  Speaker 15: of Australian governments that they won't restrict the Chinese embassy
• 30:52
  Speaker 15: to behaving like an embassy, which doesn't include organizing bus
• 30:56
  Speaker 15: loads of demonstrators and doesn't include man handling Australian report
• 31:00
  Speaker 15: orders in our own parliament.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I just think it's extraordinary, as you said, that
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: this has happened on Australian soil when we have an
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: open and free Australian press in a democratic nation.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Do you think that, in fact.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: The Prime Minister needs to raise this with the Chinese Premier.
• 31:19
  Speaker 15: So, Denika, I don't want to be unbalanced about this.
• 31:22
  Speaker 15: It's not a huge incident, but Albanizi has made it
• 31:25
  Speaker 15: a bigger incident than it needs be because of his
• 31:29
  Speaker 15: apparent extreme timidity about saying that. He's so scared to
• 31:33
  Speaker 15: say anything that might annoy the Chinese and derail this visit.
• 31:38
  Speaker 15: He doesn't need to raise this matter with the Premiere.
• 31:40
  Speaker 15: He simply needed to say at the press conference this
• 31:44
  Speaker 15: is a small incident, but completely unacceptable. We utterly stand
• 31:49
  Speaker 15: with Chang Lei. She's an Australian citizen and an Australian
• 31:52
  Speaker 15: journalist and this behavior by the Chinese officials was unacceptable.
• 31:56
  Speaker 15: Then if the Chinese decide to overreact to that, that's
• 31:59
  Speaker 15: up to them.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: But he is so scared.
• 32:01
  Speaker 15: The Albanesi government is so scared that if they say
• 32:05
  Speaker 15: one word out of the Chinese approved script, they'll get
• 32:09
  Speaker 15: a bad reaction. So the analogous case was after he
• 32:12
  Speaker 15: met with Shejinping in San Francisco, four or five days
• 32:16
  Speaker 15: after the Chinese navy had fired sonars at Australian naval
• 32:21
  Speaker 15: divers and caused them physical injury. He still won't tell us,
• 32:25
  Speaker 15: the Prime Minister, whether he raised that with c Jinping,
• 32:27
  Speaker 15: which probably means he didn't raise it because there'd been
• 32:29
  Speaker 15: no reason not to tell us. But then he had
• 32:32
  Speaker 15: a press conference but made sure that Canberra didn't release
• 32:35
  Speaker 15: the information about this incident until after the press conference
• 32:39
  Speaker 15: was over. Well, this kind of sort of pathetic timidity,
• 32:43
  Speaker 15: it's unbecoming. I mean, Albo, you know, I've got a
• 32:45
  Speaker 15: lot of apiration. I think he's a good bloke, but
• 32:47
  Speaker 15: this is unbecoming. This looks like a prime minist who's
• 32:51
  Speaker 15: got stage fright, who can't cope with the Chinese just
• 32:55
  Speaker 15: in a normal way. Doesn't have to be you know,
• 32:57
  Speaker 15: it doesn't have to. I think Dutton and Morrison did
• 32:59
  Speaker 15: over the Retrick doesn't have to go down that road.
• 33:02
  Speaker 15: But if it can't call out egregious Chinese misbehavior, even on.
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: Our own soil.
• 33:07
  Speaker 15: Well, that's an overreaction. It's too defensive, it's too timid.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: But I just think that there needs to be more
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: of a stand up for Australian values by this government.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: And there's been so many incidents as I went to
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: earlier and maatorial. But look, I just want to ask
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: you about climate because you've written in The Australian Today
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: that the oil, gas and coal boom have shattered this
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: decarbonization myth. Now we hear it all the time, Greg,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: that the climate was that they have been sparked, particularly
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: ahead of the next election, But you don't actually think
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: that is the case.
• 33:39
  Speaker 15: Why Well, climate is contentious all over the world, except
• 33:44
  Speaker 15: most of the world is not nearly as obsessed about
• 33:47
  Speaker 15: it as we are. I mean, it's hardly figuring in
• 33:49
  Speaker 15: the American debate and in the European elections recently there
• 33:54
  Speaker 15: is a massive drop in the Greens vote and the
• 33:56
  Speaker 15: European Union has abandoned many elements of its Green New Deal.
• 34:01
  Speaker 15: But simply as a matter of fact, I wouldn't want
• 34:03
  Speaker 15: any of your viewers to take my word for it,
• 34:06
  Speaker 15: and of course ABC viewers will never hear anything like this.
• 34:09
  Speaker 15: But oil gas and coal. Yes, coal are at record
• 34:14
  Speaker 15: high usage in the history of the human race today.
• 34:18
  Speaker 15: Not only that, global greenhouse gas emissions are rising and.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Are at a record high.
• 34:25
  Speaker 15: So it's simply a matter of fact that the world
• 34:28
  Speaker 15: is not decarbonizing.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 34:30
  Speaker 15: Very advanced nations like North America, Europe and US are
• 34:34
  Speaker 15: reducing our emissions a bit, but the big growth in
• 34:37
  Speaker 15: emissions comes in China, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, the Philippines and
• 34:42
  Speaker 15: so on. Now, I don't think therefore we abandon the
• 34:46
  Speaker 15: idea that we reduce our emissions, but it's crazy to
• 34:51
  Speaker 15: send the economy bankrupt and massively increase our energy prices
• 34:55
  Speaker 15: in order to reach an insane target like a forty
• 34:58
  Speaker 15: two percent reduction by twenty thirty. The world will not
• 35:02
  Speaker 15: notice whether we have a forty two percent reduction or
• 35:05
  Speaker 15: a zero reduction. But if we ended up with a
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: twenty percent reduction.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: That would be perfectly fine.
• 35:10
  Speaker 15: It's not going to have the slightest effect on the
• 35:13
  Speaker 15: physical climate. And as a simple matter of fact, the
• 35:16
  Speaker 15: rest of the world is not decarbonizing.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: We are.
• 35:19
  Speaker 15: The world is increasing its greenhouse gas emissions. That may
• 35:23
  Speaker 15: be a terrible thing, but we ought to be aware
• 35:25
  Speaker 15: of that reality when we shape our own policy.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's certainly a fair point, Greg Sheridan, we have
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: to leave it there. Thanks for joining us this evening.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: We'll stay with us.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, Jerry Seinfeld's epic SmackDown of
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: an anti Israel heckler at his Sydney show.
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: It's a pretty show.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Here were on.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: That after the break, plus Barack Obama to the rescue
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: as Biden appears to freeze again at an on stage event.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: That's next, welcome back, We'll all make Chris Bowl one
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: is added again, giving the green light to a fourth
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: offshore wind zone, this time off the Illawarra Coast in
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: New South Wales, at a cost of ten billion dollars.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Where's the condemnation from the Greens the environmentalists for the
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: damage that will be caused by having these monstrosities in
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the water? Shred Toby now is author and history lecturer
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Stephen Shivura and IPA Deputy executive director Daniel Wilde hight
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: to both of you. Thank you so much for joining
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: us on the show this evening. Daniel, the opposition is
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: vowing to scrap this project if it is elect elected.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: It would be a complete I saw up there.
• 36:38
  Speaker 16: Well, that's right, Danikia. The communities that are facing these
• 36:42
  Speaker 16: projects don't want them. We've seen a lot of community
• 36:45
  Speaker 16: resistance to the wind towers and the solar factories and
• 36:49
  Speaker 16: in the farmland the high tension high voltage transmission lines,
• 36:52
  Speaker 16: whether it's onshore or offshore, the communities do not want them.
• 36:55
  Speaker 16: You rightly described it as a monstrosity and an I saw.
• 36:58
  Speaker 16: It's not good for the environment, and it's not good
• 37:00
  Speaker 16: for the economy. It's not good for local communities. This
• 37:04
  Speaker 16: has been important leadership from the Coalition and from the
• 37:07
  Speaker 16: Nationals to say that they're going to scrap this project
• 37:10
  Speaker 16: if elected. It comes on the back of Peter Dutton's
• 37:12
  Speaker 16: leadership to say that the Liberals and Nationals will not
• 37:15
  Speaker 16: be taking a twenty and thirty emissions target to the
• 37:18
  Speaker 16: next election. And this is further evidence. Dan ocurred that
• 37:21
  Speaker 16: net zero is dead. Project after project is getting held
• 37:26
  Speaker 16: up or delayed or canceled, and Australians don't want it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 16: A recent poll that we released found that ninety five
• 37:32
  Speaker 16: percent of Australians were at most willing to pay one
• 37:36
  Speaker 16: hundred dollars a year for Australia to meet it's net
• 37:39
  Speaker 16: zero targets. And I can guarantee you that every single
• 37:41
  Speaker 16: Australian has had power bills go up by a lot
• 37:44
  Speaker 16: more than one hundred dollars a year because of net zero.
• 37:47
  Speaker 16: So this is another example of important leadership in ending
• 37:52
  Speaker 16: these economically disastrous climate mandates.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Well, you're right, I mean renewables weren't they They were
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: meant to actually bring power bills down instead, as we know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: they've gone in the opposite direction, Stephen. But there's yet
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: to be any condemnation from the Greens or any environmental
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: groups about the impact on.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Marine life, impact on the water. They're very silent right now.
• 38:11
  Speaker 17: They are because the Greens know that Australians in general
• 38:14
  Speaker 17: don't care about this particular issue. And the Greens have
• 38:17
  Speaker 17: basically jumped on a completely different issue to try to
• 38:19
  Speaker 17: become relevant to another sector of Australia, and that is
• 38:22
  Speaker 17: the pro Palestine anti Israel issue. And I reiterate everything
• 38:28
  Speaker 17: Daniel said, but very importantly, not only are they ugly
• 38:32
  Speaker 17: and they leak oil, they're bad for the environment, bad
• 38:34
  Speaker 17: for wildlife, They're just not energy efficient producers. They're just
• 38:39
  Speaker 17: a bad idea they're not going to reach the goal
• 38:41
  Speaker 17: that they're supposed to reach. And this is an excellent
• 38:43
  Speaker 17: move from Dutton. He's distinguishing himself from the Labor Party
• 38:47
  Speaker 17: and it's showing in the poles. The latest resolved strategy
• 38:50
  Speaker 17: pole has Donte ahead for the first preferred leader in
• 38:53
  Speaker 17: Australia and the Liberal Party ahead as it always is
• 38:56
  Speaker 17: in terms of being able to manage an economy. Good
• 38:58
  Speaker 17: move from Dutt.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Well, it's unsurprising people clearly don't care as much about
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: renewables as alban Easy and Bowen constantly talk about. But look,
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  Speaker 2: Pro Palestine activists in Melbourne have been displaying and wearing
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  Speaker 2: Hesbela and Hamas emblems, despite criminal legislation outlawing the usage.
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  Speaker 3: Of the two terror groups symbols.
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  Speaker 2: Now, photographs obtained by The Australian from recent Melbourne pro
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  Speaker 2: Palestine rallies show a cohort of activists wearing this distinctive
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  Speaker 2: Hamas emblem. Daniel, what is going on here? And there's
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  Speaker 2: laws in place to actually ban this? Are people just
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  Speaker 2: turning a blind eye? Are law enforcement going too hard?
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  Speaker 16: What seems to be another example of the double standards
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  Speaker 16: we've seen applied. Certainly here in Melbourne and across Australia,
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  Speaker 16: where there's one set of rules for mainstream Australians and
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  Speaker 16: another set of rules for activists. Look, the issue here
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  Speaker 16: is I think the law should be applied and that
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  Speaker 16: these symbols should not be used or disseminated. But even
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  Speaker 16: if you get rid of the symbols, even if you
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  Speaker 16: stop the hate speech, even if you stop the anty
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  Speaker 16: ste sematism, the deeper problem is that we have thousands
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  Speaker 16: of people in this country, many of whom are citizens,
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  Speaker 16: who not only say these things, but they believe these things.
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  Speaker 16: And that goes to a very significant challenge, a failure
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  Speaker 16: of our migration program over a number of years. At
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  Speaker 16: the exact times we are bringing in record numbers of
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  Speaker 16: new migrants, many of whom do the right thing, but
• 40:24
  Speaker 16: record numbers of new migrants, we have watered down the
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  Speaker 16: values test. We have watered down any leadership in relation
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  Speaker 16: to expectations of the values and beliefs that new migrants
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  Speaker 16: will have when they integrate and come to Australia. So, yes,
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  Speaker 16: deal with the hate symbols and speech, but let's recognize
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  Speaker 16: that there is a much much deeper cultural problem that
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  Speaker 16: we are facing and.
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  Speaker 3: It's a debate, Daniel, that few are willing to have.
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  Speaker 2: But speaking of Jerry Seinfeld has delivered a scathing roast
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  Speaker 2: an anti Israel heckler who briefly derailed his show in
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  Speaker 2: Sydney on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: This is what happened.
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  Speaker 18: We have a genius, ladies and gentleman.
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  Speaker 1: He served the Middle East.
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  Speaker 18: He sved them. It's the Jewish mobise that we have
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  Speaker 18: to go tomorrow. We will read in the paper Middle
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  Speaker 18: East one hundred percent Sar. Thanks to man at the
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  Speaker 18: Kudo Serena stopping two comedian.
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  Speaker 3: They stop him, Stephen.
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  Speaker 2: This person was chanting, you know, from the river to
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  Speaker 2: the sea, Palestine will be free.
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  Speaker 3: How do you think Jerry Seinfeld handled that?
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  Speaker 17: He's a consumer professional. I've seen him in I've seen
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  Speaker 17: his show in Pennsylvania years ago. The guy is absolutely
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  Speaker 17: brilliant and he did exactly what his show was famous
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  Speaker 17: for doing, pointing out absurdity. That's what the whole show
• 41:47
  Speaker 17: was about. And he pointed out quite correctly, the absurdity
• 41:50
  Speaker 17: of this one man performance in his comedy show, thinking
• 41:54
  Speaker 17: that he's you know, from Palestine to the from river
• 41:57
  Speaker 17: to the sea. Actually, when you think about it, it
• 42:00
  Speaker 17: to a Jewish comedian, We're a pretty nasty thing to do,
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  Speaker 17: as though that was going to change anything. And Jerry
• 42:05
  Speaker 17: Seinfeld did what he's done through his whole career, pointed
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  Speaker 17: out the absurdity of something that maybe we've forgotten how
• 42:10
  Speaker 17: absurd some of these protests really are.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe, but he's also a professional, as you said.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Now, look, I've got to ask you about this because
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: he's done it again. Joe Biden has had another dead
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: man walking moment after appearing to freeze at a fundraiser
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: before Barack Obama had to come to his rescue.
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  Speaker 3: This is what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dear Daniel, we're almost out of time. But I
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: just think it's getting sad now. I mean, this is
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: a man who genuinely needs help, and yet they're making
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: him go.
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  Speaker 3: Through the ringer again for another election.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 16: I don't know whether it's too late for them to
• 43:06
  Speaker 16: replace him on the ballot. I suspect it might be.
• 43:09
  Speaker 16: But every day you can see the contrast between Biden
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  Speaker 16: and Trump. Is going through all of these legal issues
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  Speaker 16: among other things, he's doing campaigns. He's energetic, he's looking
• 43:18
  Speaker 16: forward to the future. Contrast that to Biden. But what
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  Speaker 16: I will say is the debate that's happening very shortly
• 43:23
  Speaker 16: will be very interesting to watch.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: It's we all can't wait for that. Unfortunately we've run
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: out of time. Stephen Shavera Daniel Wild. Great to have
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: you both on the show this evening. Thank you so
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: much for joining us.
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: After the break we head to the UK where Prince
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan are divided over the breakdown of relations
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: with the royal family and Princess Kate makes a rare appearance.
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  Speaker 3: That's next.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back well.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: As Princess Kate made her first public appearance in over
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: six months at the Weekends Trooping the Color, there were
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: two notable absentees, Prince Harry and Meghan Now. One royal
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: expert believes Harry might find missing the event difficult due
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: to his military connections, but Meghan would be unphased unsurprising
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  Speaker 2: joinning me now is Russell Meyer's royal editor at The
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Daily Mirror.
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  Speaker 3: Russell great to speak with you.
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  Speaker 2: We know that Prince Harry has missed out on many
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: significant moments, but this weekend he of course skip Trooping
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: the Color his father's birthday as well as Father's Day.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think he would be feeling isolated or is
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: equally unphased like Megan.
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  Speaker 14: Well Great Seesar Ddikia Well, I suppose it's a tale
• 44:30
  Speaker 14: of two halves of Prince Harry certainly, I mean he's
• 44:33
  Speaker 14: made his decision. He's chosen to exit the Royal family
• 44:36
  Speaker 14: for good or worse. And certainly his fractured relationship with
• 44:40
  Speaker 14: the rest of the Royals has been very very well
• 44:43
  Speaker 14: documented over the last couple of years, and I think
• 44:45
  Speaker 14: for Harry there is a sense of yearning about what
• 44:47
  Speaker 14: he's missing out on. I mean, he would have been
• 44:49
  Speaker 14: a central figure to all these great occasions we've seen
• 44:52
  Speaker 14: over the last couple of years, and certainly he is
• 44:55
  Speaker 14: missing out and I'm sure he wants to be there
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  Speaker 14: for his father who's undergoing can TO treatment.
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  Speaker 9: That's been a very very tumultuous time for the royal family.
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  Speaker 14: We know pretty much that Meghan has made a decision,
• 45:07
  Speaker 14: she's not going to be coming back to Britain as
• 45:09
  Speaker 14: Harry has done over the last few months, and how
• 45:12
  Speaker 14: he does want that relationship with his family, So it's
• 45:15
  Speaker 14: a bit of a gray area at the moment, I
• 45:17
  Speaker 14: think for them.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Now, look, it was obviously fantastic to say Princess Kate
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: back as she undergoes cancer treatment. But how important was
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: that moment for the monarchy to have her back standing
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: side by side, shuttle to shoulder with King Charles, who's
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: also been treated for cancer.
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  Speaker 9: Well, absolutely huge.
• 45:36
  Speaker 14: I mean, just a few days ago we didn't know
• 45:37
  Speaker 14: whether the Princess of Wales would make it to.
• 45:39
  Speaker 9: The King's official birthday.
• 45:42
  Speaker 14: Just a few weeks ago, we didn't know whether the
• 45:43
  Speaker 14: King was going to make it.
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: I mean, what a time this has been.
• 45:47
  Speaker 14: Just this year, the last few weeks have been especially fraught.
• 45:51
  Speaker 14: We know that the Princess of Wales has been undergoing
• 45:55
  Speaker 14: some good times and some bad times, she said in
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: a statement just before she attended King's birthday. But the
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: King was absolutely delighted that she was able to attend.
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  Speaker 14: And I think that you look at these moments, there's
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: certainly historic, there's certainly very very important for her family
• 46:09
  Speaker 14: that has been very very fractured over the last couple
• 46:12
  Speaker 14: of years.
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: She's talking about the Harry and Meghan situation.
• 46:14
  Speaker 14: There's fury over Prince Andrew's disgrace it for exit from
• 46:19
  Speaker 14: the royal family, and this is a family that is
• 46:21
  Speaker 14: very very united because of the King and the Princess
• 46:24
  Speaker 14: of Wal's cancer treatment and hopefully that will sort of
• 46:27
  Speaker 14: embolden them to kick on for the rest of the year.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Do you think we'll be seeing the princess again in
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: public anytime soon?
• 46:36
  Speaker 14: Well, if she said in that statement, which was very
• 46:38
  Speaker 14: very moving, you know, talking about the good and the
• 46:40
  Speaker 14: bad days, and very much that the stress of dealing
• 46:44
  Speaker 14: with this cancer diagnosis. But she did say that she
• 46:47
  Speaker 14: is enjoying to sort of get back to working from home.
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: She's enjoying being part of her children's.
• 46:52
  Speaker 14: School life when she can, and I'm told that she's
• 46:55
  Speaker 14: very very keen to try and get to a couple
• 46:57
  Speaker 14: of public engagements over the summer.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: But it's a bit it's very much baby steps.
• 47:01
  Speaker 14: It's all about her rest and recovery and that really
• 47:04
  Speaker 14: does need to be the focal point for her moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Oh look, absolutely fair enough, but I certainly was lovely
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: to see her back out there again. Now, speaking of Meghan,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: At first she released a home brand jem of course,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: as part of her American Riviera Orchard brand, but now Russell,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: it appears she's moved on to something bigger and better.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Dog biscuits look I'm not sure even what to make
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: But tell us more about this, please, well.
• 47:33
  Speaker 14: I mean it's going from sort of bad to worse
• 47:36
  Speaker 14: or worse to bad. I don't know why how to
• 47:38
  Speaker 14: describe it. I mean, listen, this is something that Megan
• 47:41
  Speaker 14: is trying. She's trying to relaunch this lifestyle brand. When
• 47:44
  Speaker 14: before she joined the royal family, she had a very
• 47:46
  Speaker 14: successful website called The Tig which was talking about, you know,
• 47:49
  Speaker 14: the lifestyles of the rich and famous, if you will,
• 47:52
  Speaker 14: And she's trying to sort of launch herself into a
• 47:54
  Speaker 14: new sphere.
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: It hasn't gone too well with the streaming giant.
• 47:57
  Speaker 14: She was dropped by her Spotify deal. Netflix dropped her
• 48:01
  Speaker 14: from a couple of deals as well. So now she's
• 48:04
  Speaker 14: into sort of the lifestyle brands. She's making jams, she's
• 48:06
  Speaker 14: releasing dog biscuits.
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  Speaker 9: The announcement was a bit of.
• 48:10
  Speaker 14: Poor timing, I think, because it was just coinciding with
• 48:12
  Speaker 14: the King's birthday. We've just spoken about of the trials
• 48:15
  Speaker 14: and tribulations of the royal family over the last few
• 48:19
  Speaker 14: months and the fact that they're united, and then you've
• 48:21
  Speaker 14: got across the pond that Meghan is trying to launch
• 48:24
  Speaker 14: this business world, piggybacking on sort of the.
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: Pr of the royal family.
• 48:27
  Speaker 14: I mean it's something we've come to expect from Harry
• 48:30
  Speaker 14: and Meghan, and I don't think it will be the
• 48:32
  Speaker 14: last time.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: No, I mean I'm absolutely not surprised that they're always piggybacking.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: And good luck to her dog biscuits. There you go,
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  Speaker 2: Russell Wise, good to see. Thanks so much for joining us.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I'll be back again at seven pm tomorrow night. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up next is Sharry Markson