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Credlin | 30 April · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandler live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Great to have your company. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight on Predline, Big Show, Penny Wrong Bells, the
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Speaker 2: cat on the Voice and everything else that comes with it,
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Speaker 2: including treaty all alive and well if.
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Speaker 3: Labor's re elected.
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Speaker 2: It was an out astounding admission. How to discuss that
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Speaker 2: shortly with former Prime Minister Tony Abbott the worrying influence
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Speaker 2: of the Chinese Communist Party linked to volunteers. This time
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Speaker 2: Labor front bencher Clara O'Neil caught up in a scandal.
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Speaker 2: Now she's quick to say today nothing to see here
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Speaker 2: but the Electoral watchdog things. Otherwise, an investigation is now open.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to do a whip around too tonight to
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Speaker 2: a few of the key seats candidates to have a
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Speaker 2: real shot of unseating Labor and those Gucci green teals
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Speaker 2: on Saturday. And it's a question that should be on
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Speaker 2: the mind of every voter as they head to the
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Speaker 2: polling booth. Yet today the Minister still couldn't give a
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Speaker 2: straight answer.
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Speaker 4: Our Australian's better off now than they were before you
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Speaker 4: were elected.
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what the.
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Speaker 6: Right answer that is, and that is that Australians would
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Speaker 6: be seven two hundred dollars worse off if Peter Dutton
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Speaker 6: had got his way.
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Speaker 2: But first, there were two big new developments today in
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Speaker 2: the campaign that's been most marked first by the other
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Speaker 2: deceit of labor and the second by a general avoidance
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Speaker 2: of all the big issues facing Australia. In the final
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Speaker 2: debate on Sunday, Anthony Halbernezi was grilled about the Failed
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Speaker 2: Voice and whether.
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Speaker 3: He try to bring it back if re elected.
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Speaker 2: Remember these were the first words on his lips on
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Speaker 2: election night last.
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Speaker 6: Time, on behalf of the Australian Labor Party, I commit
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Speaker 6: to the ULARUS statement from the heart and hold.
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Speaker 2: Berry was completely committed to the full Ularou Indigenous Separatist agenda, Voice,
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Speaker 2: Treaty and truth. Yet on Sunday, under pressure, there was
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Speaker 2: a febitish story. But eventually it was extracted out of
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Speaker 2: him that the failed Voice was.
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Speaker 3: He says, gone, do you still believe.
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Speaker 5: In it under the former government? It's gone?
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Speaker 4: No man, what's your personal viewssful? You still believe priminist?
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Speaker 4: I mean people want to know this, you still believe
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Speaker 4: in what the Voice was trying to achieve. It's just
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Speaker 4: the name that you've abandoned. You're still try and get
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Speaker 4: the objectives.
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Speaker 5: No, that process was not successful.
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Speaker 2: Until today, the government's Senate leader, the most powerful player
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Speaker 2: in labor bar none Penig Wong, saying that the Voice
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Speaker 2: was coming back and one day would be as unquestioned
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Speaker 2: and has taken for granted his gay marriage despite being
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Speaker 2: rejected sixty forty in that referendum just eighteen months ago.
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Speaker 2: Here was Wong in a podcast that was released on Monday.
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Speaker 7: Look, I think we'll look back on it in ten
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Speaker 7: years time and it'll be like marriage equality, don't you reckon?
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Speaker 7: Like I was just say, marriage equality, which took us
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Speaker 7: such a bloody fight to get that done, And I thought,
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Speaker 7: all this fuss, it'll become something to be like people go,
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Speaker 7: do we have an argument about that? They weren't even
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Speaker 7: like kids today or any even adults today, barely kind
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Speaker 7: of clock that it used to be an issue.
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Speaker 2: So the Foreign Minister supremely confident that the Voice just
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Speaker 2: won't have come about within the decade, but will be
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Speaker 2: all but universally accepted, even though it's just been resoundedly rejected.
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Speaker 2: As I said, by the majority of Australians, including in
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Speaker 2: every single state. So what is the government's plan here?
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Speaker 2: Or here's the PM trying to dig himself out of
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Speaker 2: the hole. Earlier today, asked on ABC Radio whether his
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Speaker 2: senior colleague had said an indigenous voice to part was inevitable,
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister implausibly deny that's what she said, even
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Speaker 2: though that's absolutely what she meant.
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Speaker 8: Here he is is Pennywong right, is the voice sort
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Speaker 8: of inevitable?
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Speaker 9: Well she didn't say that at all, So you just
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Speaker 9: played it people will I think. I think it was
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Speaker 9: a very modest proposal, but it didn't receive the support
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Speaker 9: of the Australian people, and that is what Penny Wong
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Speaker 9: is saying. During that campaign, we were told that it
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Speaker 9: would determine where Australia's defense basis would be, it would
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Speaker 9: make a difference to people's private property rights, it would
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Speaker 9: do extraordinary things. None of that was the case. It
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Speaker 9: was an advisory committee that was non binding about matters
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Speaker 9: that affect Indigenous Australians. It wasn't successful, but a serious question.
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Speaker 3: PM.
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Speaker 8: I do think the implication there is that it's inevitable
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Speaker 8: or not.
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Speaker 9: But she didn't say that rap. She did not say that.
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Speaker 9: She spoke about how people will look back on what
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Speaker 9: the issues were. That's very different from saying it's inevitable.
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Speaker 9: She did not say that at all. And in Penny
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Speaker 9: Wong is in fact from a state in South Australia
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Speaker 9: which you'd be aware, does have a voice to Parliament
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Speaker 9: that has elected representatives that is in place.
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Speaker 2: Semantic gymnastics from the Prime Minister and we hear this
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Speaker 2: so often from that liar in the lodge, saying one
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Speaker 2: thing yet doing another. He cannot be trusted. Now, Patty
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Speaker 2: Wong is one of the most political people in Australian
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Speaker 2: public life. Nothing she does is by accident. Nothing she
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Speaker 2: says is an accident. So here's what all of this
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Speaker 2: was about. Soong's comment about the voice that it's coming back,
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Speaker 2: that will happen is to lock in Labour's base, try
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Speaker 2: and claw back some of those younger voters in particular
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Speaker 2: who have drifted off to the Greens. Second, and this
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Speaker 2: is why she's pushing it out now in the dying
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Speaker 2: days of this campaign. Late enough Labor hopes that it
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Speaker 2: won't get picked up too widely in the media, but
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Speaker 2: in sufficient time that should they win, they can then
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Speaker 2: claim it as some sort of mandate. We told you
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Speaker 2: about it before the election. That's what they'll say now.
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Speaker 2: I would also argue that in the deal Labour's done
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Speaker 2: already with the Greens on preferences, a legislated voice is
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Speaker 2: already on at the table. It is a front and
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Speaker 2: center of that preference deal. See why I say this
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Speaker 2: election matters more than any other I can recall in
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Speaker 2: my lifetime. To bring back the voice is to trash
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Speaker 2: the democratic decision you took eighteen months ago to reject
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Speaker 2: this divisive race based change to our constitution. So every
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Speaker 2: Australian who voted No needs to send them a message
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Speaker 2: in terms he can't help but understand. And that message
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Speaker 2: is to throw him out of office on his ear.
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Speaker 2: Because you've heard me say this before for me. One's
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Speaker 2: shame on you form me twice.
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Speaker 3: Shame on me. Tell you what I am fired up
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Speaker 3: about that voice. I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 2: Labor also out there today this ongoing energy train wreck
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Speaker 2: due to the government's obsession with the renewables only electricity
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Speaker 2: grid that Labour keeps doubling down on, despite the trillion
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Speaker 2: dollar costs, despite the experience overseas. Despite the pleas today
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Speaker 2: from energy experts or the intervention of labor luminaries like
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Speaker 2: former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, the one thing no
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Speaker 2: one in the Albanezer government wanted to talk about today
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Speaker 2: and they were pushed was the near twenty four hour
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Speaker 2: national power blackout in Spain and Portugal, Countries like US
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Speaker 2: that are aiming for a renewables only power grid and
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Speaker 2: that just have only celebrated the first full day of
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent renewable power, except that the power has
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Speaker 2: just gone completely out, triggering a national chaos. Now most
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Speaker 2: likely it was all caused by the highly fluctuating production,
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Speaker 2: inevitable in a weather dependent renewables system. Meanwhile, some unlikely
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Speaker 2: people started to call out the damage caused by this
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Speaker 2: whole net zero crusade. In a carefully considered intervention, former
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Speaker 2: British labor Prime Minister Tony Blair has advised his labor
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Speaker 2: colleagues to about face on net zero. His message to
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Speaker 2: the current British PM is that net zero is doomed
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Speaker 2: to fail.
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Speaker 3: Blair said it's wrong that.
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Speaker 2: People were being asked to make financial sacrifices and changes
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Speaker 2: in lifestyle when they know that their impact on global
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Speaker 2: emissions is minimal. In appointed message, he told his form
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Speaker 2: my labor colleagues that they must face up to when
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Speaker 2: I quote inconvenient facts. He accused Labour's leaders of being
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Speaker 2: quote terrified to admit the climate policies are not working
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Speaker 2: from fear of being climate deniers. And he's being joined
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Speaker 2: by other British MPs from working class seats most damaged
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Speaker 2: by de industrialization. Here's one Graham Stringer, an MP who
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Speaker 2: holds a seat centered around the hard scrabble parts of Manchester,
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Speaker 2: who said, and I quote net zero is helping the
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Speaker 2: Chinese economy to the detriment of the British economy. Now,
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Speaker 2: in all of that, you could just substitute Australia for Britain.
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Speaker 2: But is anyone listening here to Tony Blair or the
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Speaker 2: fifty prominent Australians including the former head of the Australian
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Speaker 2: Nuclear Science Technology Organization Anstoe that runs our medical nuclear
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Speaker 2: reactor at Lucas Heights in the suburbs of Sydney, who
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Speaker 2: today published an open letter in all of our major papers.
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Speaker 2: It said, I We're being pushed into a reckless, multi
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Speaker 2: trillion dollar energy experiment without proper planning, honest debate or
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Speaker 2: engineering oversight. Powerful vested interests, they said, are shaping energy policy.
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Speaker 2: Quote many energy and environmental organizations are funded by foreign investors,
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Speaker 2: foreign renewable manufacturers, and billionaire donors. Without sufficient transparency under
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Speaker 2: current policies, they said, the risk of blackouts is real
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Speaker 2: and rising. Why do renewables still require massive subsidies if
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Speaker 2: they are so cheap, they asked. We don't bulldoze the
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Speaker 2: environment to save it, they said, We don't ignore slave
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Speaker 2: labor to meet a climate target, they said. Another signatory
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Speaker 2: form Australia of the Year, Dick Smith said, a delusion.
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Speaker 3: It is a.
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Speaker 2: Delusion that we can run a country on renewables and batteries.
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Speaker 2: Once renewables get to around twenty percent of the system,
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Speaker 2: they start to destroy the economics of baseload twenty four
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Speaker 2: to seven power, the sort of power we need to
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Speaker 2: keep the lights on.
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Speaker 3: Once renewables get.
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Speaker 2: To about fifty percent of the system, or they put
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Speaker 2: its stability and reliability at grave risk. Yet, Chris Bowen,
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Speaker 2: if he has returned to power, wants eighty two percent
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Speaker 2: renewables within five years. Remember what I just said. This
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Speaker 2: is the most consequential election in generations. Australia cannot afford
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Speaker 2: a second term of labor for me once, shame on you,
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Speaker 2: for me twice, Shame on me.
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Speaker 10: All right?
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Speaker 2: The PM half of that speech today and canbet to
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Speaker 2: the Press Club jetted off to Perth. He's doing a
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Speaker 2: lot of travel across another Boardsdy might be worried about
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Speaker 2: those seats. Our reporter, Treaty Macintosh was there and of
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Speaker 2: course filed this report.
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Speaker 11: Appearing at the National Press Club. The Prime Minister's sidestepped
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Speaker 11: one of the central questions in this election campaign.
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Speaker 4: Our Australint's better off now than they were before you
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Speaker 4: were elected.
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what the.
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Speaker 6: Right answer that is, and that is that Australians would
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Speaker 6: be seven two hundred dollars worse off if Peter Dutton
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Speaker 6: had got his way.
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Speaker 11: Medicare is at the center of the Albanese government's re
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Speaker 11: election pitch. It's also the central attack on his rival,
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Speaker 11: with repeated claims the coalition plans to slash the health system.
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Speaker 12: Do you have to exaggerate in this campaign? Why can't
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Speaker 12: you win this election by telling the truth.
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Speaker 6: Just days ago he was saying that Medicare is not sustainable,
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Speaker 6: so you know, and when Medicare and when and when
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Speaker 6: he tried to abolish bulk billing.
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Speaker 5: He tried.
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Speaker 11: Faced with a decade of deficits and soaring debt. The
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Speaker 11: PM pressed on whether labor is eyeing off revenue gains
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Speaker 11: from trusts or superannuation.
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Speaker 12: Is the caviat that anything you work on takes effect
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Speaker 12: after the next election and then breaking a promise.
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Speaker 5: What we're doing. What we're doing is putting forward our policies.
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Speaker 5: They're out there. The costumes were put out there.
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Speaker 3: From here.
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Speaker 11: The Prime Minister plans to visit six states in just
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Speaker 11: three days. It's the final sprint until the polls close
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Speaker 11: on Saturday night.
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Speaker 2: All right, now, the pend Dutton's campaign. He was busy
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Speaker 2: in Victoria today traveling again. They are now. Political reporter
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Speaker 2: Cam Reddin filed this report.
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Speaker 8: Peter the opposition leader, stopping here for his fifteenth refuel
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Speaker 8: of the campaign on one last big push through Victoria,
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Speaker 8: from visiting a sea for charity in the seat of
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Speaker 8: Dunkley to yum Cha in Chisholm.
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Speaker 3: I've been working forward to this lunch and.
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Speaker 8: Dishing out early dessert in Aston.
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Speaker 3: Put the camera down, they come and have come and
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Speaker 3: have one of them.
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Speaker 13: Come on, come on, don't be so shy.
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Speaker 8: No visit yet though to the nearby TiAl seats of
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Speaker 8: Goldstein or coup Yong, where the former member has floated
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Speaker 8: a potential return.
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Speaker 14: When are you coming back?
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Speaker 15: Not in a hurry, but you never say never, but
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Speaker 15: you want to be Prime ministerday.
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Speaker 12: I don't think ambitions are crime to.
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Speaker 8: A comeback of a different kind. The Opposition seizing on
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Speaker 8: comments from the Foreign Minister about a potential revisit of
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Speaker 8: the Voice to Parliament.
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Speaker 13: The Prime Minister should have heard the voice of the
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Speaker 13: Australian public when they voted No in the referendum.
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Speaker 8: Clearly they haven't, Peter, this is our ninth campaign stop
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Speaker 8: in the last three days. We're told there could be
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Speaker 8: as many as nineteen more to go on this final
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Speaker 8: few days of the campaign.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the PM's address today at
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Speaker 2: the Press Club the Canberra Gallery. Kid gloves were on
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Speaker 2: except for one very memorable question from our own Andrew Clenal.
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Speaker 2: First up, though, this is the inspiration for Andrew's question.
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Speaker 3: Have you finished the question?
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Speaker 4: Answer?
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Speaker 16: It's perfectly plain. The Australian Labor Party is going out
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Speaker 16: after the financial institutions, the funded's programs and a massive
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Speaker 16: scale four thousand billion dollars of additional funding. And if
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Speaker 16: you can't under oh well that's a good bipartisan approach.
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Speaker 16: Rullship comes from the breast gallery.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine Malcolm Fraser saying bs that word in
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Speaker 2: the middle of the day. Well, here's how Andrew put
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Speaker 2: that updated version to mister Albanezi today.
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Speaker 12: It could be said there's been a fair amount of
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Speaker 12: bs in this campaign and also before the last election.
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Speaker 5: You know we're in like it's the middle of the
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Speaker 5: day so kids are watching.
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Speaker 12: Was when Malcolm Fraser addressed the press club too before
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Speaker 12: the last election. You said power bills would reduce they didn't.
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Speaker 12: You said you wouldn't alter the tax cuts.
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Speaker 5: You did.
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Speaker 12: You said you wouldn't change souper you're trying. You said
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Speaker 12: we'd have cheaper mortgages. We don't. You said an election
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Speaker 12: night you'd commit to the Ullery statement in full. You haven't.
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Speaker 12: And you said when you're messed up you would admit fault.
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Speaker 12: Now you say Peter Dutton is seeking to americanize the
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Speaker 12: health system. He's promising to match your bulk billing funding.
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Speaker 12: Some of your ads basically say he's going to abolish
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Speaker 12: Medicare you say he's nuclear plan will be funded by cuts?
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Speaker 12: You're renewable subsidies and rewiring the nation aren't paid for
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Speaker 12: by cuts.
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Speaker 5: You might come out here, Andrew, and.
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Speaker 12: My question is how why do you have to exaggerate
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Speaker 12: in this campaign? Why can't you win this election by
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Speaker 12: telling the truth.
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Speaker 2: It was a crack of a question, suffice to say,
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Speaker 2: he didn't like it, and he certainly didn't answer it either.
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Speaker 3: Join him now my panel.
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Speaker 2: Send your reporter Carolyn Marcus, sending your fellow too with
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Speaker 2: the Mensies Research Center, Nick cat Well. Nick, there are
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Speaker 2: a couple of other tougher questions beside that one there
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Speaker 2: from Andrew Cleanew. But the usual sort of camera a
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Speaker 2: bubble barely ride that labor politicians get there. However, that
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Speaker 2: stopped him in his tracks. What were your key takeaways
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Speaker 2: from today?
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Speaker 17: It's like trying to wrestle a slippery or eel, isn't it,
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Speaker 17: and trying to get a slippery eel by the throat.
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Speaker 17: And when you see Andrew Glanell make very little progress
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Speaker 17: in trying to get the prime Prime Minister to actually
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Speaker 17: answer a question, you realize what a slippery, devious man
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Speaker 17: this is. But there's a deeper point here, Peter, and
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Speaker 17: that point is that I think the Prime Minister is
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Speaker 17: showing great disrespect to the Australian public. He's treating them
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Speaker 17: like children. He hasn't been at any point of this
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Speaker 17: campaign to fly his many appearances. He is not once
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Speaker 17: fronted up and been honest about the great challenges this
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Speaker 17: country faces faces, particularly in economics and national security. Nor
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Speaker 17: has he, of course come up with any solutions or
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Speaker 17: serious policy for that. Instead, we've had bs, and we've
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Speaker 17: had slogans, and we've had a bunch of electoral giveaways.
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Speaker 17: There's been nothing approaching a policy, and therefore I think
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Speaker 17: he will have no mandate when he comes to power,
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Speaker 17: which given that he will probably be governing with the
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Speaker 17: help of the Greens, who have a tremendous agenda, an
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Speaker 17: ideologically driven agenda that's very harmful for this country. I
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Speaker 17: think that puts US in a very dangerous position.
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Speaker 2: Unless Australians wake up between now and six o'clock on
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Speaker 2: Saturday night, a lot still haven't voted, and our hope
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Speaker 2: revelations in the last couple of days will wake them up.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to that scandal.
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Speaker 2: More news today regarding volunteers from organizations linked to the
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Speaker 2: Chinese Communist Party today Labor front bench of Claire O'Neill.
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Speaker 2: She was exposed in The Australian this morning with reporting
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Speaker 2: that ALP member Chap Chaw, a self described friend of O'Neil,
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Speaker 2: arranged for the Hubei Association to recruit volunteers to staff
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Speaker 2: her polling booths on election day. Now, since this report broke,
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Speaker 2: it's been referred to the Electoral Watchdog. For her part,
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Speaker 2: she says, nothing to see here and nothing to do
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Speaker 2: with her staff.
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Speaker 18: Staff and my office did not make any request for
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Speaker 18: assistance from this organization. The organization offered assistance to the office,
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Speaker 18: and my team did exactly the right thing, which has
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Speaker 18: politely declined that offer of support.
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Speaker 14: Pretty concerning, Caroline, Very concerning, especially when you consider that
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Speaker 14: this group, the hube Organization, has been accused previously of
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Speaker 14: basically being a front group for the Chinese Communist Party
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Speaker 14: and for advancing their message overseas.
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Speaker 3: And if that.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't carry the stench foreign interference with it, then I
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Speaker 1: don't know what does. Now we've already seen the TLMP
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Speaker 1: monique Ryan. She's being investigated by the Australian Election Commission
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Speaker 1: over having some of this group's volunteer for her and
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Speaker 1: being caught out. And after that happened, the president of
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Speaker 1: this group, the Hube Association, that he claimed that it
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Speaker 1: was the Minister Clara O'Neil who had contacted them, or
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Speaker 1: at least her team had contacted the group asking for
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Speaker 1: volunteers to help, and it was only after the story
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Speaker 1: concerning Miss Ryan came out Doctor Ryan came out that
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Speaker 1: they frantically made a call to this group saying we
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Speaker 1: better cancel because obviously there's a lot of heed around
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Speaker 1: the group and we don't want to be involved in this. Now,
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Speaker 1: that's two very different version of events. The minister who
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Speaker 1: says her team was approached by the group and politely declined,
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Speaker 1: and the group which said that no, it was the
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Speaker 1: other way around. So look, it'll be up to the
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Speaker 1: AAC to completely investigate this, but certainly not what Labour
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Speaker 1: wants at all on the eve of a federal election.
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Speaker 2: And you've got to wonder what other candidates are also
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Speaker 2: involved in this mode, Will one's like it? Nick, I've
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Speaker 2: been speaking to a lot of polsters and campaign insiders
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Speaker 2: for the last week just to get some sort of
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Speaker 2: steer on what they've got in their truck polling and
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Speaker 2: what's running at a published pole level. And also I'm
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Speaker 2: talking to people working on prepole booths because there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of feedback coming in from you know, it's different
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Speaker 2: state by state. Obviously, it's different electric by electric, but
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Speaker 2: it's very, very interesting. There's a real surge in the
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Speaker 2: One Nation vote that's clear. Will it materialize on Saturday night, Well,
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Speaker 2: we'll see. But this puts one Nation in the box
21:36
Speaker 2: seat and One Nation voters in the box seat because
21:39
Speaker 2: their preferences will be key if the race is as
21:43
Speaker 2: tired as we predict on Saturday night. Now, normally they're
21:46
Speaker 2: not so disciplined with preferences. If they are disciplined, if
21:50
Speaker 2: they're as disciplined as the Greens are and funneling their
21:52
Speaker 2: preferences back to labor, absolutely this.
21:56
Speaker 3: Is game on. Now.
21:57
Speaker 2: I know you've been out a number of seats this week.
21:59
Speaker 2: What can can you report from the ground.
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Speaker 17: Well, I can confirm that One Nation is looking very
22:06
Speaker 17: strong at this election. I mean I was twice this
22:08
Speaker 17: morning on a booth in Woollongong handing out how to
22:12
Speaker 17: vote cards for Amanda in the seat of Cunningham, which
22:14
Speaker 17: is a seat actually we're doing just brightening strongly, despite
22:17
Speaker 17: the fact that it's always been a Labor stronghold. Twice
22:20
Speaker 17: people came and asked me for the One Nation how
22:22
Speaker 17: to vote card. I wasn't able to help them. But
22:24
Speaker 17: there's clearly a push on for one Nation and I
22:27
Speaker 17: think the one Nation votes will be come back in
22:30
Speaker 17: terms of preferences much more solidly for the Liberal and
22:33
Speaker 17: National Party this time than previously. I mean they were
22:36
Speaker 17: pretty solid last time. By the way, it was the
22:38
Speaker 17: Palmer votes that were really flaky. The Palmer's not really
22:42
Speaker 17: running a serious campaign this time. So I think that
22:46
Speaker 17: the Coalition in some seats, and it's a seat by
22:48
Speaker 17: seat version basis here we're for hading one hundred and
22:52
Speaker 17: fifty micro elections, as you know, Peter. Then in some
22:55
Speaker 17: seats and important seats like where were like Whitlam, like Cunningham,
23:00
Speaker 17: I think that we will get we will be in
23:02
Speaker 17: better position to benefit.
23:05
Speaker 6: From the.
23:07
Speaker 17: Preference votings from the independence and minor parties than Labor
23:11
Speaker 17: because the Green Boat is not particularly high in those electorates.
23:14
Speaker 17: So I'm confident it'd be better, of course if people
23:18
Speaker 17: just dispensed with that all together and just put the
23:20
Speaker 17: liberals first in my view, but then other people have
23:23
Speaker 17: a different opinion on that one.
23:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I urge people if you're on the center
23:28
Speaker 2: right and you're listening to the ads from the Palma
23:30
Speaker 2: Group or the Trumpet of Patriots, just understand if you
23:34
Speaker 2: follow their how to vote card, you'll be funneling votes
23:37
Speaker 2: back to labor. They are a wolf in sheep's clothing.
23:40
Speaker 2: Let's go Caroline to these disgusting flies that have been
23:43
Speaker 2: sent out in the heavily Jewish Melbourne suburb of Corefield.
23:46
Speaker 2: They are from the National Socialist Network. This is a
23:50
Speaker 2: neo Nazi group. It's designed to look like a liberal pamphlet,
23:54
Speaker 2: right down to liberal logo, although the star of David
23:56
Speaker 2: or the Israeli flag there is on the Liberal l
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Speaker 2: It's deeply disturbing.
24:02
Speaker 3: What can you tell.
24:03
Speaker 1: Us, Well, I can tell you that this neo Nazi
24:07
Speaker 1: group has been behind some of the most appalling public
24:11
Speaker 1: displays of anti Semitism in recent months.
24:15
Speaker 3: They're the same group.
24:16
Speaker 1: That were on the steps of the Victorian Parliament just
24:19
Speaker 1: before Christmas, who I exposed while hosting your program over
24:23
Speaker 1: that time, Peter. They were chanting white Man fight back
24:28
Speaker 1: and Jews must go.
24:29
Speaker 3: And the man.
24:30
Speaker 1: Leading that group, Joel Davis, on the day, is the
24:34
Speaker 1: same person who's authorized these fliers and whose name appears
24:38
Speaker 1: at the bottom of them. He was arrested at the time.
24:41
Speaker 1: He was arrested again in January over the public display
24:46
Speaker 1: of a Nazi symbol that some of the group were
24:50
Speaker 1: involved in the booing of the Welcome to country at
24:54
Speaker 1: the Anzac Day dawn dawn service that we've been discussing
24:59
Speaker 1: at length on the programs on Sky News. But they're
25:04
Speaker 1: very disturbing group. And I can now show you some
25:06
Speaker 1: footage of Joel Davis and some of the members of
25:10
Speaker 1: that group from today at a pre poll center in
25:13
Speaker 1: Kuyong this afternoon. This is new footage. Some of the
25:18
Speaker 1: group have we dressed as fake Orthodox Jews in black
25:23
Speaker 1: hats and beards, and they're holding larger versions of these
25:27
Speaker 1: same flyers that had been distributed to homes around the area,
25:31
Speaker 1: and it's a very heavily Jewish area. The liberal candidate
25:35
Speaker 1: for Kuyong, Amelia Hama, has condemned the stunt. She said,
25:39
Speaker 1: I am appalled by the atrocious anti Semitic material being
25:43
Speaker 1: circulated and paraded at the q early voting Center by
25:46
Speaker 1: the National Socialist Network, which includes a manipulated Liberal logo.
25:51
Speaker 1: There is no place for racism in Australia. I am
25:54
Speaker 1: proud to stand with the Jewish community and Israel and
25:58
Speaker 1: til MP Minique Grin has also slammed this display at
26:03
Speaker 1: the q prepolls. She said she too was appalled.
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Speaker 3: Now the flyers, as.
26:08
Speaker 1: You pointed out, obviously are very misleading. But they if
26:12
Speaker 1: people don't look close enough, they might think it really
26:15
Speaker 1: is a Liberal Party flyer which says things like giving
26:19
Speaker 1: the Jews everything they want and has fake policies like
26:23
Speaker 1: abolish free speech and give Jews free money. But and
26:28
Speaker 1: this group is even planning to register a Nazi party
26:31
Speaker 1: with the Australian Electoral Commission, they say. But I think
26:34
Speaker 1: what's really disturbing here is how brazen that they've become recently.
26:40
Speaker 1: And I have previously said that they've been emboldened clearly
26:44
Speaker 1: by the federal Labor government and the state Victorian government
26:49
Speaker 1: to be so bold about their public displays of anti
26:53
Speaker 1: semitism because we haven't seen so I'll leave it crazen.
26:56
Speaker 2: Display because I want to move on because thank you Carolyn,
27:00
Speaker 2: I'll leave it there. I want to move on because
27:01
Speaker 2: I will get to at the end of the show
27:03
Speaker 2: as some commitments that Adam Band has made to Muslim
27:07
Speaker 2: voters and that are disturbing in relation to Gaza. This
27:11
Speaker 2: will go down to the wire in some labor held
27:13
Speaker 2: seats with the Greens and the Muslim vote. But I'll
27:16
Speaker 2: get to that a bit later on. Thank you both,
27:17
Speaker 2: Nick and Caroline. Let's turn now to those comments from
27:20
Speaker 2: Penny Wong, who in her podcast debut, has suggested an
27:24
Speaker 2: Indigenous voice to Parliament was inevitable or is inevitable? Never
27:28
Speaker 2: bind the fact of course Australians voted against it sixty forty.
27:31
Speaker 2: Wong says, Australians will one day be incredulous there was
27:34
Speaker 2: ever an argument over the voice. Now, the guys that
27:37
Speaker 2: advance Australia, they are quick off the mark today and
27:39
Speaker 2: they could not have.
27:41
Speaker 3: Put it better.
27:42
Speaker 5: Remember the Voice to Parliament referendum.
27:44
Speaker 3: Australia has made the choice and voted no.
27:47
Speaker 19: Well, Anthony Albanesi and Penny Wong want to ignore your vote,
27:52
Speaker 19: saying that the voice is inevitable.
27:54
Speaker 7: Look, I think we'll look back on it in ten
27:56
Speaker 7: years time and it'll be like marriage equality, don't you reckon?
28:00
Speaker 7: I was just say marriage equality, which took us such
28:02
Speaker 7: a bloody fight to get that done, and I thought,
28:05
Speaker 7: all this fuss, it'll become something to be like. People go,
28:10
Speaker 7: do we have an argument about that? They weren't even
28:11
Speaker 7: like the kids today or any even adults today. Barely
28:15
Speaker 7: kind of clock that it used to be an issue.
28:19
Speaker 5: What authorized by Sounderbock advanced Australia camera.
28:24
Speaker 3: And more and more and more.
28:26
Speaker 2: We're going to hit social media networks in the coming hours.
28:30
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton two. He hit back, have a listen.
28:34
Speaker 13: I thought the Prime Minister had heard that we said no,
28:36
Speaker 13: and now it turns out Labor's thinking about legislating it.
28:41
Speaker 2: Look at the whole debate this week about Welcome to
28:43
Speaker 2: Country that News dot com pole one hundred and thirty
28:46
Speaker 2: plus thousand Australians sixty seven percent said no, No, we
28:51
Speaker 2: want all these welcome to countries to stop. Saw how
28:53
Speaker 2: people voted in the Voice referendum. It could not be clearer.
28:57
Speaker 2: The vast majority of Australians do not want this divided
29:00
Speaker 2: by race. But Labor isn't listening and As I've reported
29:04
Speaker 2: repeatedly in the past, Truth and Treaty are both still
29:09
Speaker 2: funded in the federal budget. The work is continuing. Join
29:13
Speaker 2: me now from Lon cest and former Prime Minister Tony Abbott.
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Speaker 3: Well, Tony Abbert, I would.
29:18
Speaker 2: Regard this as a denial of democracy.
29:21
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you?
29:24
Speaker 15: Absolutely right, Peter. This is a giant two fingered salute
29:28
Speaker 15: to the voters of Australia who resoundingly said no to
29:32
Speaker 15: a voice. And what Penny Wong has admitted today is
29:35
Speaker 15: you're going to get the voice anyway if we stay
29:38
Speaker 15: in government. Now. The only language that people like Penny
29:42
Speaker 15: Wong and Antony ALBANIZI will understand is being booted out
29:47
Speaker 15: because if they stay, the voice is coming regardless of
29:51
Speaker 15: how we voted, whether we like it or not, because
29:54
Speaker 15: that's exactly what green left governments do. They deny the
29:58
Speaker 15: will of the public to avoid it at every turn.
30:03
Speaker 2: You and I both have discussed this. We've never thought
30:06
Speaker 2: the labors dropped the voice. I mean, labor don't drop
30:09
Speaker 2: any of these sort of causes. It's a bit like
30:12
Speaker 2: an iceberg. You only see a little tip every once
30:14
Speaker 2: in a while, but it's there. And as I mentioned,
30:17
Speaker 2: all the underlying work's been still done in the public service.
30:21
Speaker 2: How though, given the election and the majority of people
30:24
Speaker 2: will still be voting on Saturday, how on earth do
30:26
Speaker 2: you get this message out So the Australians who voted
30:29
Speaker 2: no understand if they vote for Labor or the Greens
30:32
Speaker 2: on the weekend, they get something that they opposed back
30:36
Speaker 2: regardless of the referendum.
30:40
Speaker 15: Well, yes, Peter, it was only ever a tactical retreat
30:44
Speaker 15: by the Prime Minister and by the Green Left. And
30:49
Speaker 15: what people need to understand between now and polling day
30:53
Speaker 15: is that if you never want to see this divisive
30:56
Speaker 15: race based voice, you've just got to get rid of
30:59
Speaker 15: the government. That's all, because they haven't given up. And
31:03
Speaker 15: if we want them to understand that no means no,
31:07
Speaker 15: we've got to get rid of the Albanezy government that
31:10
Speaker 15: brought all this on.
31:13
Speaker 2: Talk to me about energy, because it's been front and
31:16
Speaker 2: center of the campaign. If Labour's returned though under Chris Bowen,
31:21
Speaker 2: we're going to look like Spain. They've been left in
31:23
Speaker 2: the dark in recent days and that's in relation to
31:26
Speaker 2: a renewables power breakdown. We've even got the former UK
31:30
Speaker 2: Labor PM Tony Blair say that zero is a big problem.
31:34
Speaker 2: He says, rapidly phasing out fossil fuels or limiting energy
31:38
Speaker 2: consumption is doomed to fail. How is it that the
31:42
Speaker 2: rest of the world's waking up, and yet here we've
31:45
Speaker 2: still got our head in the sand.
31:49
Speaker 15: Look, the biggest single disaster, master minded and brought on
31:54
Speaker 15: by the current government is the energy train wreck, and
32:00
Speaker 15: it's just getting worse and worse all the time. And Spain,
32:04
Speaker 15: which has had a national twenty four hour blackout, shows
32:08
Speaker 15: what's just around the corner if we keep going down
32:12
Speaker 15: this path. Tony Blair has had the decency in the
32:17
Speaker 15: common sense to call this out, But the two people
32:21
Speaker 15: who will never listen are Anthony Albanezi and Chris Bowen.
32:26
Speaker 15: This is worse than economic self harm. It's almost attempted
32:31
Speaker 15: economic suicide.
32:32
Speaker 1: Peter.
32:33
Speaker 15: Now, I've been in probably a dozen or more marginal
32:37
Speaker 15: seats over the last few weeks, and the message that
32:41
Speaker 15: I'm getting from the general public it's not just about
32:45
Speaker 15: cost of living. It's about the economic vandalism behind the
32:49
Speaker 15: cost of living crisis. And there's no better illustration than
32:53
Speaker 15: energy policy. People understand, as Dick Smith said today, it
32:59
Speaker 15: is a semi delusion, delusion to think that you can
33:04
Speaker 15: run a country on solar panels and batteries. You can
33:08
Speaker 15: run a house, but you can't run a country. And
33:11
Speaker 15: if we keep going down this path, it won't just
33:13
Speaker 15: be our cost of living that goes through the roof.
33:16
Speaker 15: We'll lose our jobs, We'll lose our industries. We'll lose
33:20
Speaker 15: our security, our national security, not just our financial security,
33:25
Speaker 15: because energy security is national security. This is the scale
33:29
Speaker 15: of the unfolding disaster if we don't change the government
33:33
Speaker 15: on Saturday.
33:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just showed very quickly.
33:38
Speaker 2: They're an open letter that went into the newspapers today
33:41
Speaker 2: fifty experts, so people not pushing a particular barrow. These
33:45
Speaker 2: are experts in energy who have called out the issue
33:48
Speaker 2: of our renewables only greed. You're in Tazzi, and I
33:52
Speaker 2: know Tazzy's had, you know, some good and some tough
33:56
Speaker 2: and some challenging economic times over the year is and
34:01
Speaker 2: you've got a lot of lovely young people behind you
34:05
Speaker 2: who want to be able to stay in Tasmania. I
34:07
Speaker 2: suspect you want to run a business or join an
34:10
Speaker 2: industry and stay on the apple isle. And if we
34:14
Speaker 2: send our industry off shore. If we end up becoming
34:18
Speaker 2: a country of nail bars and baristas, for God's sake,
34:21
Speaker 2: if we don't make things in this country anymore, then
34:25
Speaker 2: there's no opportunity for these young people.
34:29
Speaker 15: Completely correct, Peter. Obviously Tasmania is a wonderful place, but
34:36
Speaker 15: you can't have a great community without a strong economy
34:39
Speaker 15: to sustain it. And as Peter Dutton has said, electricity
34:44
Speaker 15: is the economy.
34:45
Speaker 3: Power is the economy.
34:47
Speaker 15: And if we go back to the Middle Ages relying
34:51
Speaker 15: on the sun and the wind to provide our power,
34:55
Speaker 15: eventually we're going to have a commensurate lifestyle, commendurate living standard.
35:01
Speaker 15: And that's the folly of all this. I mean, China's
35:05
Speaker 15: not doing it, India is not doing it, Russia is
35:08
Speaker 15: not doing it. Now the United States is not doing it,
35:12
Speaker 15: and yet we are still embarked on this road to
35:16
Speaker 15: economic nowhere.
35:20
Speaker 3: I'll leave you there.
35:21
Speaker 2: I know you're in marginal seats and you're working right
35:23
Speaker 2: until Lawaia. Someone think you're still still in office, Tony Abbat,
35:26
Speaker 2: but I know you love a campaign.
35:28
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time.
35:30
Speaker 15: I'm a recovering politician, Peter. I'm a recovering politician, and
35:33
Speaker 15: this is a relapse.
35:35
Speaker 2: I know you are, I know you, I know you
35:36
Speaker 2: love a campaign.
35:37
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tony. All right, after the break, I'll do
35:39
Speaker 3: a whip.
35:39
Speaker 2: Around to some of the candidates, the real candidates out
35:41
Speaker 2: there on the ground, with a shot of unsetting Labor
35:44
Speaker 2: and the teals this weekend, plus the worrying sign the
35:47
Speaker 2: US China trade war is about to get a lot worse,
35:50
Speaker 2: with plenty of blowback here in Australia.
35:57
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks to the calm.
35:58
Speaker 2: Why Labour's later tax on unrealized capital gains is just
36:02
Speaker 2: the beginning and Adam Band's pitch for the Muslim voter
36:05
Speaker 2: as the race gets tighter and tighter in some key
36:08
Speaker 2: Labor seats. Crossing now to the seat of Aston in
36:12
Speaker 2: Melbourne's e's former local mayor, deputy principal of a large
36:16
Speaker 2: school in the area, manacur Cello is the homegrown Liberal
36:19
Speaker 2: candidate vying to win back what was once a coalition
36:22
Speaker 2: stronghold that Labor one in that surprise narrow victory in
36:27
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three by election. Mannie, welcome to the program.
36:32
Speaker 2: Labor holds Aston. You've grown up there, You've lived your
36:34
Speaker 2: whole life there. Labor holds it. By three zero point
36:37
Speaker 2: six percent. Give me a sense of the feeling on
36:40
Speaker 2: the ground in this campaign and the issues that are
36:42
Speaker 2: being raised with you.
36:46
Speaker 10: Well, thank you Peter for having me on your show tonight.
36:49
Speaker 10: What I've seen at the polling booth these last few
36:52
Speaker 10: days is people are voting for change. Crime is a
36:57
Speaker 10: massive issue here in Aston. Just this year crime has
37:02
Speaker 10: gone up fourteen percent.
37:04
Speaker 3: Now, three years ago.
37:06
Speaker 10: Crime wasn't even an issue. But unfortunately in Victoria we
37:09
Speaker 10: have double trouble. We have just into Alan with more
37:12
Speaker 10: crime and Anthony Albanezi with more debt, but doing nothing
37:17
Speaker 10: to solve our crime crisis here in Aston and in Australia.
37:23
Speaker 3: So it's interesting you mentioned crime.
37:24
Speaker 2: You mentioned just interrollen because when I talk to people,
37:26
Speaker 2: particularly on booths in the Arter suburbs of Victoria, of Melbourne,
37:30
Speaker 2: places where you are, Daniel Lanrew's name comes up time
37:35
Speaker 2: and time again as people grab the how to vote
37:38
Speaker 2: card from the Libs. They say, I've never voted Liberal,
37:40
Speaker 2: but I remember Daniel l Andrew's and I'm voting with
37:43
Speaker 2: you this time. Is that something you're seeing in Aston?
37:49
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
37:50
Speaker 10: At the pre poll people were coming in and saying
37:53
Speaker 10: it's time for change. We want to give someone else
37:56
Speaker 10: a go. They've seen a failure from the state labor
38:00
Speaker 10: government and also from this federal government with increasing cost
38:04
Speaker 10: of living pressures.
38:05
Speaker 3: One lady came out.
38:06
Speaker 10: To me and showed me her expenses at the end
38:09
Speaker 10: of the week, after paying the rent, paying for her bills, groceries,
38:14
Speaker 10: She's got nothing left, nothing left for anything else. It's
38:18
Speaker 10: quite a serious issue here in Aston, all right.
38:24
Speaker 2: Mannie, be REMISSI with me before I say goodbye to
38:26
Speaker 2: say a shout out to your dear dad, who tells
38:29
Speaker 2: me he's my number one fan. So all the best
38:31
Speaker 2: for you on Saturday. But my best regards to your
38:34
Speaker 2: mum and your dad. Thanks for your time. Let's go
38:37
Speaker 2: out of the contest on the Northern Beaches. The seat
38:39
Speaker 2: of war Ringer once, of course held by my former boss,
38:41
Speaker 2: Tony Abbott, but it's been tealed territory for some time.
38:46
Speaker 2: Jamie Rodgers, though she is an exceptional candidate, she's hoping
38:50
Speaker 2: to make her mark for the Coalition in the seat
38:52
Speaker 2: of Wringer, and she joins me, Now, hey, you are
38:56
Speaker 2: an accomplished competitive swimmer. You're up against a formist. How
39:01
Speaker 2: does the challenge of running for politics compare.
39:05
Speaker 3: Well.
39:05
Speaker 20: Peter, It's certainly been an interesting challenge and thank you
39:09
Speaker 20: so much for having me on this evening. Well, I've
39:11
Speaker 20: got to say, when you sit across the English Channel
39:13
Speaker 20: and it takes twelve and a half hours to do that,
39:16
Speaker 20: you need discipline, you need resilience, but most importantly it's
39:19
Speaker 20: just a lot of hard work. And that's exactly what
39:21
Speaker 20: I'm doing in this political space to win back Waringer.
39:26
Speaker 2: I mean it when I say, and I've spoken to
39:28
Speaker 2: a lot of people that have dealt with you, you
39:29
Speaker 2: are an exceptional candidate. I think the Libs out there
39:34
Speaker 2: have feelin felt a bit fulaorn in recent times. I
39:36
Speaker 2: think they're thrilled to have you on the campaign trial.
39:39
Speaker 2: What are the issues that people are raising with you?
39:41
Speaker 2: Is there any sort of buyers remorse with the Teals?
39:45
Speaker 20: Yeah, Peter, I must say there certainly is. And that's
39:48
Speaker 20: what we've been hearing over and over and over again,
39:50
Speaker 20: is that they did vote for the incumbent in the
39:53
Speaker 20: last two elections, but they are coming back to the
39:56
Speaker 20: Liberals this time around. And it's because when you look
39:59
Speaker 20: at when you've had in this seat for six years,
40:02
Speaker 20: that's a long time under two different governments, and we
40:05
Speaker 20: just don't have a lot to show for it. And
40:07
Speaker 20: I guess the evidence is in things like Hansard, who's
40:10
Speaker 20: done an analysis and shows the Zali in last parliament
40:13
Speaker 20: only mentioned Boringa fourteen percent of the time. And I
40:16
Speaker 20: guess that then also shows with her voting record that
40:19
Speaker 20: she's votes with the Green seventy one percent of the time.
40:22
Speaker 20: So Waringa's not her priority, and voters are really starting
40:26
Speaker 20: to see that. We are seeing cost of living is
40:28
Speaker 20: also an issue in Maringa, but across different ways. I mean,
40:31
Speaker 20: childcare comes up over and over and over again, Peter.
40:34
Speaker 20: We pay the highest childcare fees in the entire country.
40:37
Speaker 20: On average, it's about two hundred and twenty dollars a
40:39
Speaker 20: day to send your child to childcare. But small businesses,
40:43
Speaker 20: you know, we've lost thirty thousand businesses under this state
40:45
Speaker 20: labor government across the country in the past three years.
40:48
Speaker 20: And we walk along Manly corso there's four lease signs
40:51
Speaker 20: in the window when you go down Military Road in Mossman.
40:53
Speaker 20: It's the same story there. So businesses are hurting and
40:56
Speaker 20: families are hurting, and we're just hearing that they really
40:58
Speaker 20: want change that that's away from the tials, but also
41:02
Speaker 20: this state list labor government.
41:05
Speaker 2: All Right, we got to fight down to the wire.
41:07
Speaker 2: Jamie Great Tavy on the program. All the best for Saturday.
41:10
Speaker 2: All right, quick break after the break. Just how significant
41:13
Speaker 2: was Donald Trump's impact on the Canadian election? Plus Adam
41:17
Speaker 2: Band's pitch for the Muslim vote. Even more concessions are
41:20
Speaker 2: promised on Gaza and the anti Morrison message written in
41:23
Speaker 2: Chinese that's being circulated to key marginal seats. All right,
41:31
Speaker 2: coming up, of course, Kel Richards in a moment. The
41:33
Speaker 2: first there's been a dramatic drop in the number of
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Speaker 2: bookings for shipping containers from China to the United States
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Speaker 2: amidst Donald Trump's trade war. According to the tracking group Vision,
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Speaker 2: bookings plummeted some forty five percent year on year by
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Speaker 2: mid April. At the same time, here at home, of course,
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Speaker 2: we've had this warning from SMP about the nation's triple
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Speaker 2: A credit rating and concern too about Labour's massive spendeth
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Speaker 2: on to try and.
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Speaker 3: Buy our voters.
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Speaker 2: It comes as a coalition and claims annual GDP would
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Speaker 2: have been some two hundred and fifteen billion dollars higher
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Speaker 2: if labor ad met it's one point two percent productivity
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Speaker 2: growth assumptions. Join me now, the panel columists at the
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Speaker 2: Spectator Terry Barnes, chief economist, and seeing your fellow at
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Speaker 2: the IPA.
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Speaker 3: Adam Crichton.
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Speaker 2: Well, Gens, I'll start with you, and this is your
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Speaker 2: patch economics. I mean, if you look at that shipping data,
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Speaker 2: it is sobering.
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Speaker 3: So at all the.
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Speaker 2: Stuff you can see out there this week in the economy,
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Speaker 2: this S and P warnings, we've got some pretty uncertain
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Speaker 2: economic times ahead.
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Speaker 21: Well, just in terms of the shipping fall, I think
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Speaker 21: Donald Trump would probably say, well, it's working, My policy
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Speaker 21: is working. But I think the rubber is really going
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Speaker 21: to hit the road with his supporters because there will
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Speaker 21: be shortages of cheap formerly Chinese produced goods. There'll be
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Speaker 21: more inflation. So I think the stock market declines and
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Speaker 21: the volatility there you know, his his supporters can deal with,
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Speaker 21: but they don't have many shares. But this is going
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Speaker 21: to be a real test for him.
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Speaker 3: And I mean, as for.
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Speaker 21: The Australian figures that you mentioned, I mean it's Australia's
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Speaker 21: productivity performance has been appalling for years and it's no
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Speaker 21: surprise because you know, we keep foisting all these regulations
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Speaker 21: on the economy, net zero in particular, I mean the
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Speaker 21: cost of net zero on the economy, and.
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Speaker 3: Yes, which is extraordinary.
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Speaker 21: So even the Labor Party in the UK is now
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Speaker 21: backing away from this insanity. And the same thing is
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Speaker 21: going to happen here for sure in the next five
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Speaker 21: to ten years.
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Speaker 3: But all the collateral.
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Speaker 2: Damage except if we run with the Greens, if you know,
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Speaker 2: Adam Bant and Anthony Albanezer and an unholy alliance come
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Speaker 2: Sunday morning, that's the nightmare.
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Speaker 21: That's the nightmare, isn't it that basically it's a joint
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Speaker 21: government with the Greens. Let's hope that is not the case.
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Speaker 21: But look at you know, if there's any silver lining
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Speaker 21: to that is I think it will accelerate the backing
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Speaker 21: off from net zero in the long term as people
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Speaker 21: will see just how crazy it is.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to Canada.
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Speaker 2: The best result there for the Conservative side in some
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Speaker 2: thirty seven years in terms of votes and seats.
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Speaker 3: But they still lost.
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Speaker 2: Not only that, the guy we all admire PV he
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Speaker 2: lost his seat. Now it's tough there, it's first past
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Speaker 2: the post. There were some ninety one candidates in the race.
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Speaker 2: God forbid Terry. But I mean Trump was the third
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Speaker 2: candidate in this election.
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Speaker 19: Oh absolutely, I mean, and I don't think he cares.
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Speaker 19: That's the thing about Donald Trump. I think he's focusing
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Speaker 19: entirely on his own agenda and didn't realize that there
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Speaker 19: was collateral damage north of the border. And he's going
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Speaker 19: to take out one Conservative leader on Monday, and there's
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Speaker 19: this possibility of okay, have a second one on Saturday,
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Speaker 19: which I think is absolutely falling. But in terms of
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Speaker 19: the election result, there's the Conservatives there.
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Speaker 3: Did very well. I mean, basically they just.
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Speaker 19: Got over just short of the forty two percent that
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Speaker 19: the Canadian the pull Scott. But the other side of
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Speaker 19: it is that Pierre Pollier, who I think is the
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Speaker 19: best leader on the conservative side around the world at
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Speaker 19: the moment, got done in his own seat because of
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Speaker 19: those ninety one candidates and possibly because he didn't spend
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Speaker 19: enough time looking at his own seat like John Howard
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Speaker 19: used to do. But look, I think Donald Trump was
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Speaker 19: a huge factor. Absolutely because Mark Carney as the incoming
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Speaker 19: clean skin establishment man, I can deal with Donald Trump.
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Speaker 19: Pierre Poliev as mini Trump, he was not in parliament
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Speaker 19: a second, He's only just got into parliament, so there's
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Speaker 19: no record for him to actually worry about, and he
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Speaker 19: was able to claim that he was a new government.
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Speaker 3: There was a change of government.
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Speaker 2: He sells himself as a banker, but he's not. He's
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Speaker 2: a lot more than that. Is a climate zealot, isn't he.
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Speaker 21: Yeah, certainly, you know, he's a hard variety alogue. I mean,
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Speaker 21: he's championed central banks to do something about climate change
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Speaker 21: for years, which is of course ridiculous. They meant to
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Speaker 21: be controlling inflation, which was not controlled very well by
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Speaker 21: the way, but yeah, they really have. You know, I
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Speaker 21: think they made a terrible mistake Canadians. I think that
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Speaker 21: they're going to regret it. You know, the Trump factory
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Speaker 21: is going to fade away, and then the other costs,
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Speaker 21: you know, the other issues will come back, housing and energy,
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Speaker 21: which are just as much a big issue in Canada
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Speaker 21: as they are here. So I think, you know, I
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Speaker 21: think his popularity will fall pretty quickly in coming years.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this anti Morrison memo written in Chinese
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Speaker 2: that's been circulated Terry. It's gone out in the seat
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Speaker 2: of Tagny in Perth. According to Google Translate, the signs
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Speaker 2: read Morrison disappointed you, Darton will only get worse supporting
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Speaker 2: how it all is to support Dutton.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of this?
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Speaker 19: Well, it looks like Labour's personal attacks on Peter Dutton
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Speaker 19: have gone multi lingual, haven't they. And I mean it
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Speaker 19: still comes down to the basic campaign message that Labor's
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Speaker 19: running that Peter Dutton is bad. They are good because
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Speaker 19: they can't run on their own record.
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Speaker 2: What does it say to you though, they've been in
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Speaker 2: power three years and they can't touch their record and they.
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Speaker 19: Have to lie, that's right, and they have to demonize
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Speaker 19: their opposition and invent as you say, they basically lie.
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Speaker 19: They have a I think lie counts up to about
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Speaker 19: eighty now.
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Speaker 3: Isn't it.
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Speaker 19: But certainly I think that's not what boters want to see.
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Speaker 19: They actually want to see a contest of ideas. They're
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Speaker 19: not getting a contest byde is. They're getting a contest
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Speaker 19: of personal abuse. Not just think that's wrong, just.
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Speaker 21: Very briefly so sad that we've reached a position in
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Speaker 21: this country where significant chunks of the population can't read
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Speaker 21: English use a different language.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a powerful point.
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Speaker 2: And if you go out to some suburbs in western
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Speaker 2: western Melbourne and Sydney. You get it in other languages,
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Speaker 2: other scripts even Hey, just just on that. Though Adam
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Speaker 2: Band has put a pitch out for the Muslim vote,
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Speaker 2: we know the seat of Will's Peter Khalil labors.
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Speaker 3: Khalil's in the fight of his life there.
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Speaker 2: But he's basically offering a whole lot of stuff in
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Speaker 2: relation to Gaza.
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Speaker 3: That's a worry.
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Speaker 21: Well, it's no longer a Green party really, it's a
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Speaker 21: far left ideological party. They're far more concerned about Israel
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Speaker 21: and Gaza than they are about the environment. And I
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Speaker 21: think more and more Green supporters should you should realize
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Speaker 21: what they're actually voting for, extremely high taxation government and
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Speaker 21: it's all these kind of soft green teal supporters in
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Speaker 21: these rich seats. They're really voting for much higher taxes
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Speaker 21: on themselves.
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Speaker 2: They're the other party of the Greens. Yes, a bet
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Speaker 2: addressed flank, aren't they terrible?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's true.
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Speaker 19: But I think when it comes to Muslim vot's pitch,
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Speaker 19: which I think is absolutely reprehensible, I think you've got
47:46
Speaker 19: to you've got to remember that Muslims don't vote as
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Speaker 19: a block, and they don't like the type of social
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Speaker 19: agenda that the Greens have. They would find it.
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Speaker 3: Repugnant if they are told about it.
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Speaker 2: This is the issue if they are told about it,
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Speaker 2: and to Adam's point, not the whole community is literally
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Speaker 2: in English. So this is always a challenge. But we'll
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Speaker 2: see what we gentz. Thank you right, quick break, quick break.
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Speaker 2: Kel's on the other side of the break. The wonderful
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Speaker 2: Kel Richards joins me now from Sydney.
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Speaker 3: Kell. We're going to get straight into it tonight.
48:21
Speaker 2: We're focused on our election, of course, but there's another
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Speaker 2: big one happening in Rome.
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Speaker 3: It kicks off next week.
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Speaker 2: VICKI wants to know why the Vatican's called the Holy Sea,
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Speaker 2: and several wants to know where the word conclave comes from.
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Speaker 22: Okay, start with conclave comes from a Latin source word
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Speaker 22: meaning a room that could be locked from conn together
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Speaker 22: and clavis meaning key. And for centuries, the voting cardinals
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Speaker 22: were physically locked in the Systeine Chapel to each sleep
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Speaker 22: vote until they finally reached a decision. These days, they
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Speaker 22: are allowed out at night and they go and eat
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Speaker 22: and sleep at a place called Santa marta house on
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Speaker 22: the grounds of the Vatican, and they're only conclaved, locked
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Speaker 22: together while they're voting. Holy See. Well, the word c
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Speaker 22: came into English from a Latin word via Anglo Norman French,
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Speaker 22: and the Latin source word means seat, so it means
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Speaker 22: the throne of a bishop. Now, the connection Holy See
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Speaker 22: with the capital h capitalist applied to the papercy from
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Speaker 22: about fourteen hundred, but under the lateran agreement between Italy
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Speaker 22: and the Papacy it was restricted to just the Vatican
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Speaker 22: City State from nineteen twenty nine.
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Speaker 3: All right, red scent brass razo.
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Speaker 22: Red scent American from about eighteen twenty nine. It was
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Speaker 22: a small one cent coin mainly copper, hence a bit
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Speaker 22: read hence used as an idiom for a very trivial
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Speaker 22: bit of money. Brass razu mythical never was a brass
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Speaker 22: razoo in any country, in any currency, and Australian invention
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Speaker 22: from about nineteen nineteen to say a bit of money
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Speaker 22: that's worth nothing whatsoever, although one souvenir shop used to
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Speaker 22: make fake coins with brass razos stamped on them to
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Speaker 22: cash in on the.
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Speaker 2: Expression all right, I've gotta leave it there. I've got
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Speaker 2: a throat at Andrew Bob, but we'll come back to
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Speaker 2: the rest of them next week. Thank you, Kel, thank
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Speaker 2: you all right.
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Speaker 3: That's it for me.
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Speaker 2: Last Kredlin show tomorrow night before the election. Do not
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Speaker 2: miss it, although I will see you from five o'clock
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Speaker 2: on Saturday night as I'm on the panel.
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Speaker 3: That's it. Here's Andrew