Latest / B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast / Club racing grit, MotoAmerica battles, WorldSBK shakeups, and the latest MotoGP whispers in S6 Ep 23
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- 0:09What are we here for? What do you truly want?
- 0:13When change is not enough, what do you do?
- 0:24What are we here for? What do we truly want when
- 0:33change is not? What do you do?
- 0:44Let's talk about it. The crowns in face.
- 0:48Let's fight hatred no down ways. The man that is naked, we can
- 0:55see it without an X-ray. Life is easy if we work
- 1:03together. We are the keepers, we are the
- 1:06people. We are all equal, fit with
- 1:08purpose. The past has pain, it'll drive
- 1:14you, even make you take aim. But together is where we should
- 1:19aim. Together is where we should.
- 1:25What are we here for? What do we truly want?
- 1:34When change is none? What are you doing?
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- 3:21All right, now that we got all that public service announcement
- 3:25stuff out the way, let's bring the guys in tonight.
- 3:28Bobby Shakes man, finally we got you out of whatever prison you
- 3:34are or Rock You are under. I mean, clearly you got the
- 3:38helmet on, so you were you at. What you're saying?
- 3:41You're dealing with pressure. I can't hear a word you're
- 3:45saying. That's unfortunate, Shakes.
- 3:47Shakes. Maybe I should put the
- 3:49headphones on, take the helmet off?
- 3:52Maybe you should do that Shakes. How is that?
- 3:55Is that is that is that working out for you?
- 3:57I can. Hear you now.
- 3:58I tell you, you've been dropped on your head one time too many,
- 4:01Bobby. I can hear.
- 4:03I can hear you now. How you been, my brother?
- 4:06Man, I'm I can't complain. Nice, nice, nice.
- 4:10It's good to be back with you guys.
- 4:13I. Know man, how you been doing?
- 4:15I mean, I, you know, you know, I'm looking in the background
- 4:19trying to see what I see. But right, I see you're still
- 4:22Jamaican, so that's what's up. Yeah, so basically I just had to
- 4:25rebuild everything. I finally got a desk, put up new
- 4:32posters and trying to make it look like a 16 year old bedroom.
- 4:36Got you. So that's.
- 4:37The vibe we're going with right now.
- 4:39The hurricane really wiped things out, no?
- 4:41No, no, hurricane. Hurricane didn't wipe anything
- 4:43out, man. We.
- 4:44We, we. We.
- 4:45We. Survived.
- 4:47No doubt. I mean, are you excited to talk
- 4:50about motorcycle racing, my man? Yeah, I mean, I, I, I wish my
- 4:55bike had new tires on, I would have took it out today.
- 4:59Today was a Today was a whopping 73° out here in Boston.
- 5:04Sounds chilly? Sounds chilly.
- 5:06You don't need tires, man. Just go out there and slip and
- 5:08slide. That's the best way to ride.
- 5:11No, no, no, no, no, no. And I, I need, I need tires.
- 5:14I need tire. All right, my.
- 5:16My my bike has been sitting for almost 4 years so those tires
- 5:19are probably rotted. I, I, I think you might need to
- 5:22go renew your motorcycle license, man, if it's bike
- 5:25you've been sitting for four years.
- 5:27I mean what you think your MJ, you just come come back and and
- 5:30start. Yeah, what?
- 5:32You think I got to take the test over again?
- 5:34We'll find out. We'll find out.
- 5:35We won't find out. TJ, what's good, man?
- 5:39Four years is a long time not to be riding a bike.
- 5:43I can't even imagine. Like, I mean, you know, I don't
- 5:46ride every day, but I'm working on trying to ride every day.
- 5:50So to have four years off on a bike, man, it's it's it's pretty
- 5:53wild. How you doing, man?
- 5:54How are things in the mean? Everything is good.
- 5:58I was going to say yeah, even the bike being now written for
- 6:01years, man, I have to stretch out a little bit.
- 6:04So they both both need some TLC. But the bee's been good.
- 6:10But the weather has been good, like you said, we've been
- 6:14getting a couple of 70° days. We haven't touched 80 so there's
- 6:17a lot more bikes out and we're riding so we're getting closer
- 6:21to the season, the club racing, so can't wait till that starts.
- 6:25But you know we just got this little drought with the racing
- 6:29so I'm glad we're back into that.
- 6:30We got a World Super bike coming up in Moto America and GP after
- 6:35that couple weeks so I'm excited to get talking about some
- 6:38racing. No doubt, no doubt.
- 6:40I completely agree. Well, let's talk a little bit
- 6:44about the club racing before we jump into Motor America World
- 6:46super bike, all that fun stuff, because it's one of the things
- 6:50that I we haven't really talked about as much as I would like.
- 6:54Just the preparation and stuff like that.
- 6:57You know, it's a lot to it. You hear Bobby Shakes, Who
- 7:00hasn't been been on a bike in four years is is, you know,
- 7:05unheard of and he gonna have to change that.
- 7:07So we have to get him some tires, get him some pearly tires
- 7:09or something, you know. So let's talk.
- 7:12We'll start with TJ on this because Shakes is not at the
- 7:15track. Like, you know, what's the
- 7:16preparation like for you? You know, we got Loudon in a
- 7:20couple of weeks, the first weekend in, in May essentially.
- 7:25You know, you've been at this town for a little bit, man.
- 7:27So like, you know, you must have a routine by now of of what you
- 7:31know, but what you need to get done.
- 7:33And let's just talk about that, that actually what you get done
- 7:35because sometimes we have a lot of things that we need to get
- 7:38done, but that that schedule don't allow it.
- 7:42So you know, you've been at this for a little while.
- 7:44So what's your game plan when you go into the track, TJ?
- 7:48Well, you know, first I'll just make sure my my bike's running.
- 7:51All the wires, you know, and bolts are all attacked and I
- 7:57kind of wait to the last minute to do the oil change.
- 7:59So that's like the one of the things I got to do still.
- 8:02But other than that from from when the rounds end last year, I
- 8:07usually keep everything in basically a corner in in my
- 8:12basement. So once I pull that out, I just
- 8:14make sure, you know, I got everything that I can think of,
- 8:18you know, power strips, extension cords, typically you
- 8:23can't have enough of anything. There's always someone that can
- 8:26possibly help you if you need something.
- 8:28But try to check my toolbox, make sure I got enough tools and
- 8:32stuff like that, and just, you know, make sure we got these
- 8:36stands and all that good stuff. But yeah, just getting
- 8:39everything in order, knowing your orders or operation, what
- 8:42you need as the day goes on, you know, so get your coolers and
- 8:47all that good stuff ready and, and stuff like that.
- 8:51So that's kind of like my basic preparation.
- 8:54Yeah, I mean, you know, everyone's a little bit
- 8:57different and, you know, there's people that, you know, they wait
- 9:00till day one and they start stripping down everything and
- 9:02doing everything they need to do.
- 9:04I'm kind of in the middle because I don't really wrench on
- 9:06my bike that much. So I try to get like the bike
- 9:09stuff, bike maintenance stuff done that I'm not going to do.
- 9:13I try to get it done sooner than later just because I know
- 9:16towards the beginning of the season there's a lot of people
- 9:19that wait to get their bike done.
- 9:22So you know, it, it, it, you just get, you can get shuffled
- 9:25to be like, oh, your bike might be ready the weekend or the week
- 9:28of the race weekend. And I don't, and I've done that
- 9:31a couple of times and I don't like that because it's like, I
- 9:34have to get my bike back and, and know what I'm doing and, and
- 9:37go over and, and go over it and stuff like that.
- 9:39So for me, I, I, I, I, I'm kind of in the middle, middle of the
- 9:45pack like when it comes to that. As far as getting the getting,
- 9:51getting maintenance done, but then there's also your gear, you
- 9:55know what I mean? You also got to go through your
- 9:57gear. Make sure your gear is good
- 9:59before you know, go through your gloves, make sure you got like
- 10:01your gloves are going to make it through another season or at the
- 10:04beginning of the season and stuff like that.
- 10:05Because you can have gloves for 3-4 years.
- 10:08Never go down, never anything. But they still wear out because
- 10:11you're just putting them on every day or if you or not every
- 10:14day, but every race weekend. And if you're, and especially if
- 10:17you if you're in the rain and stuff like that.
- 10:19I've found that I've had gloves tear in the past just from just
- 10:22just wear and tear, you know what I'm saying?
- 10:24So it's good to go through your equipment to see what that's
- 10:27about and just make sure you're good there.
- 10:30You know, go through your, go through your trailer, whatever
- 10:34trailer you're using to, to tow the bike, you know what I'm
- 10:36saying? Make sure all that stuff is good
- 10:38too. You know what I mean?
- 10:39You got to go through the vehicle, make sure the vehicle
- 10:42is good so the vehicle can get another year.
- 10:44The funny thing is that my trailer is the open trailer, so
- 10:50one of the wires came loose so I actually had to rewire the not
- 10:55rewire the whole trailer, but I actually had to do some
- 10:57maintenance on it because I wasn't able to use it because it
- 11:01wasn't producing any light. So I got that out of the way.
- 11:05One big bike maintenance is that I did last year was the the
- 11:10forts in the rear shock. So that I completed last year.
- 11:14I didn't ride as much last year, so it's still in good shape.
- 11:17So I went through sewer bike services, Tim, so that that was
- 11:23done. So I didn't really have to tear
- 11:24down the bike ranch or anything major.
- 11:27So that part is good to go. Yeah, no, you know, trailer
- 11:31tires, brakes, if you got brakes on a trailer, if you got any
- 11:38type of custom work done, check that stuff to make sure that's
- 11:44all good and everything. But you know what I'm saying.
- 11:48If you have subscriptions to transponders or if you got, you
- 11:52know, if you're with, with some of these club racers, club
- 11:55racer, club race, race and racing organization, you need to
- 12:01be a member of a AMA. So make sure your AMA
- 12:06subscription is up. Because, you know, even though
- 12:08the tech is a lot better to me, you have to track the, these
- 12:11days as far as like everything is more electronic than paper,
- 12:14It's still not. You don't want to, you don't
- 12:15want to be dealing with trying to, you know, renew a
- 12:19transponder or something like that while you're at the track
- 12:21and, and, and dealing with that and stuff like that.
- 12:24I because I have had to done it, do it and, and it's not fun, you
- 12:27know. So these little things, I think
- 12:29you need to, you know, and no, but then also you got to, you
- 12:34got to read the rule books. So the clubs you're going to
- 12:35race, because every year the rules change a little bit, you
- 12:39know what I'm saying? So it's good to make sure you
- 12:41look at the real books, look at what classes you can race your
- 12:43bike in, because for me, like I'm on a small bike and this and
- 12:47the classes are getting smaller and fewer.
- 12:49So it's not like, you know, Once Upon a time I had a lot more
- 12:52classes I could throw my bike in than I do today.
- 12:54So it's always good to make sure you look at the rule book before
- 12:57you, you know, at this point it's the racing season.
- 13:00So you already have a bike, but you don't want to have a bike
- 13:02and then, you know, it's, it only qualifies for like one or
- 13:05two classes or whatever the case may, because you might want to
- 13:08be going doing, you know, four or five races a weekend versus
- 13:12just two races a weekend and stuff like that, or racing upper
- 13:15class. And you know, your bike is not
- 13:18at the level of some of these other bikes, but you at least
- 13:21you still get to race. I mean, you know, if you're
- 13:23really fast, that's not a that's not a big deal.
- 13:26But if you're, if you're a middle of the pack kind of rider
- 13:29and you're on a less horsepower bike, you're going to notice
- 13:31that, right? You, you know what I'm saying?
- 13:35So I think those are some of the things to, to be ready for.
- 13:38And and I mean, it's too late to be sitting here saying go to the
- 13:41gym because. This season.
- 13:44So it's like if you didn't go to the gym already, you can start
- 13:47now because it never hurts to start for sure.
- 13:50But that, that's something you should have been doing from the
- 13:52offseason. I, I think I got everything.
- 13:55I don't yeah. Anything I I didn't think of
- 13:57that you that you guys think it would be good to to to have and
- 14:00be prepared for to go to the track.
- 14:02I know Shakes don't go to track that much, but he still.
- 14:05Maybe a new helmet, new helmet, new.
- 14:09What about the paint job on the bike?
- 14:12Make sure make make sure the plastics are all up to date.
- 14:15Make sure all the scuff marks are gone.
- 14:16Hopefully you never went down so your paint job is always
- 14:19Immaculate. But you know, checking your
- 14:21paint, your bike tires, obviously.
- 14:25Make sure you have no, they'll say helmet's huge because with
- 14:29the club racing, depending on the organization, I think it's
- 14:32either four or five years. You has the age of your helmet
- 14:35has to be. So on the helmet somewhere
- 14:38there's a there's AI don't know if it's a creation date or or
- 14:42whatever sale date or whatever it is, but there's a date on it.
- 14:45And from that date you got, you got up to four or five years to
- 14:48use the helmet. So I've had to buy, I bought, I
- 14:52bought older helmets not realizing they were older.
- 14:56I bought a helmet on a deal, was a deal because of the leftover.
- 15:00So I had less time on the helmet at the racetrack, right?
- 15:04So it's kind of like, you know, sometimes you see deals out
- 15:06there and you know, you got to find out what that date is.
- 15:10Because if that date's a couple of years old and you get a deal
- 15:14on the helmet now you got two years less or a year less that
- 15:17you can use this helmet. You know that that kind of
- 15:20thing. Absolutely right.
- 15:21My helmet's huge And having additional stuff.
- 15:24You know, if you, if you have the luxury of being able to have
- 15:27additional gloves and additional helmet and food and these in a
- 15:31suit and stuff like that, or you know, it makes in parts, you
- 15:35know, certain parts, it makes your life easier just in case
- 15:37anything happened, You can, you can, you know, get yourself
- 15:41organized and still race and not and not be done for the weekend.
- 15:46Because a good buddy of ours, TJ and I, Jim, you know, he made a
- 15:51good point. It's like you don't want to
- 15:53drive all this way. You put all this investment into
- 15:55coming here and just sit here and just watch the weekend and
- 15:57not do anything. So the more prepared you are,
- 16:01you know, the more you be like, all right, yeah, I broke this.
- 16:03OK, I can fix that. I can still race.
- 16:04Because at the end of the day, that's what you're here to do.
- 16:07And that's what we, you know, we take the time off to do, lose
- 16:10vacation time over to do and stuff like that or whatever it
- 16:14is to go do. Also, too, you want to keep your
- 16:17equipment out of the sun, right? Especially if you're up in
- 16:21Massachusetts and you just throw it in the basement or in your
- 16:23shed. You know, the leather,
- 16:25everything's going to shrink. And then when you go out to
- 16:29Daytona or Alabama, wherever you're racing, or California
- 16:33now, it's going to expand. So just keeping your gear cool,
- 16:37nice and warm over the summer, you know what I'm saying?
- 16:40Because you don't want the plastics just breakdown
- 16:43automatically. So you just want to make sure
- 16:45that you keep everything, keep everything good.
- 16:48Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Just have that climate control
- 16:51garage that everybody has. Not everybody's.
- 16:54Saying. Right.
- 16:58Let's say make sure the the canopies are up to parks.
- 17:01I know as the as you get to like September, October, I know
- 17:06you're like, I don't feel like buying a new canopy.
- 17:07I'm going to get one next year. I know there's probably some
- 17:10that have a little Ripper tear, so you don't want to open up the
- 17:14beginning of the year and have a beat up canopy.
- 17:17So I know I had to go through that.
- 17:19I had to buy a new one before the seasons over so.
- 17:22You know, that's a real good one.
- 17:24The canopy, the canopy is probably more important than the
- 17:28damn helmet, right? You get, you get to the track
- 17:31and you're like, oh man, that the sun is beating down on you
- 17:35or it's raining and you're a, he's got a hole in it.
- 17:39That's just, you might as well just race without a helmet on
- 17:41that because and, and, and, and that will kill your vibe, right?
- 17:43You know what I'm saying? That's why back in the day when
- 17:46you were going to war, they gave you 2 pairs of socks because
- 17:49nobody likes to go to war with with wet feet.
- 17:51Nobody wants to race. You got your bike under, maybe
- 17:55you're wrenching your bike in between races.
- 17:57And guess what? The canopy has no cover and it's
- 18:01it's just raining through and and then the sun.
- 18:03Yeah, you want a good canopy? You do and, and I, you know, I
- 18:08did not pay me to say this, but I, I've went through a few
- 18:11canopies and now I use Euromax. So I think any canopy that you
- 18:15can replace broken parts, who's a canopy to get because you are
- 18:19going to break parts on them. So rather than buy, I mean,
- 18:22there may be something to buying cheaper canopies and knowing
- 18:25that you can buy two or three and if you break them, it's no
- 18:28big deal. I mean, there's some places that
- 18:30offer warranty on canopies. So you might want to look at a
- 18:34situation where it's like you, you pay extra to get warranty on
- 18:36it and chances are you're probably going to use that
- 18:38warranty, especially if you go into Jersey and some of these
- 18:42tracks that eat up canopies for some reason, you know what I
- 18:48mean? So wind tunnels, yeah.
- 18:53I mean, we, we tend to use water because we can pour it out at
- 18:57the end of the race weekend. We're saying you got to carry it
- 19:01around with you. So, you know, but however you,
- 19:06however you anchor your, your, your, your canopy is the is the
- 19:11way to go. So that's for sure.
- 19:15So yeah, man, let's talk about Motor America.
- 19:17Motor America is this weekend. It's a it's kind of weird
- 19:22because not weird. It's it's it's, it's not the
- 19:27official start of the season because the season started at
- 19:29Daytona 200. All other classes raced at the
- 19:34Daytona 200 except for I think, I don't know if the bag, I think
- 19:38the bag was raised. So all of the class raced at the
- 19:40200 except for the Super bike. So it's like for everyone that's
- 19:44already got points, but the Super bike class doesn't have
- 19:46points yet. So but so, but every other year
- 19:49up until this year, it would have been this weekend would be
- 19:52the first round of of the season.
- 19:55Last year, Bobby Fong, I believe, finished second place.
- 20:02It was the Cam. Cam Bobie look goodness
- 20:04gracious. We got to dust off the cobwebs.
- 20:06Cam Bobie won the championship. You know, what are you guys
- 20:11thinking? Looking to see this year in a
- 20:13super bike class. We got Josh Sharon is not going
- 20:17to be in world super bike this year in the world like in in
- 20:20motor America super class this year.
- 20:22So that's going to be interesting.
- 20:23You got PJ Jacobs who's moving up to world super bike.
- 20:29I think Matthew, Matthew Schultz is back in World Super Bike now
- 20:31on a Yamaha, Yamaha. But I think Schultz is back on a
- 20:34bike, right? What you thought, TJ?
- 20:37Yes. Schultz is on R1R1.
- 20:42Nothing like which track racing, right?
- 20:46Last year, the end of season it was probably really it was
- 20:50really exciting the way it panned out.
- 20:54You know, Bobby Fong was winning the championship, not expecting
- 20:57to win and Cambobier snug his way and he got got the the win
- 21:03for the season. So going into this year, fairly
- 21:07room for the tack Yamaha squad see with JDB Chan and and Bobby
- 21:17Foll can do. But it's going to it's going to
- 21:20be good to see you with how Campbell B starts the season and
- 21:23what Matthew Schultz can do back in the Super bike class.
- 21:28So I know he was there before and yeah, it's going to be a
- 21:32good start of the season for the Super bike class.
- 21:35Just a few who's going to run up front.
- 21:39I mean, we already can kind of guess who we we think we it's
- 21:42going to run up front, but there's a lot of talent in there
- 21:44like Shawn Dale and Kelly, you know, Richie Escalante.
- 21:49So it's going to be a good season, obviously, hopefully
- 21:53some good weather where everyone can get, you know, about the
- 21:55same equal playing field. So.
- 21:59Nice shakes. What are your thoughts man?
- 22:01We do have as you heard. I fumble through and TJ
- 22:06mentioned with Campbell BA winning the world title on the
- 22:10US Motor America title on the BMW, but you know, like Jorge
- 22:16Martin when he wanted on a Ducati, Cam is now moving to a
- 22:20Ducati for this year and not on a BMW that he won last year.
- 22:26You know, being the the Panigale is the 2026 V 4 with a double
- 22:30sided swing arm. We're seeing what it's doing in
- 22:33World Super Bike already with Ikaluku Ono and Bulaga one and
- 22:38two at the last round in Portugal for the whole weekend.
- 22:44What do you expect to see from a rider that's, you know, won a
- 22:47title on on one manufacturer move into a new manufacturer of
- 22:51the V4 is a new bike for this year because it's a double sided
- 22:55swing arm. A little bit of data, but not a
- 22:58lot. What are your thoughts, Shakes?
- 23:03I'm not a fan of people switching because I always say
- 23:07the, the rules go for a couple years and then once the once we
- 23:12get a new rule change, then I believe that that's I always
- 23:15believe that that's the new season, right?
- 23:17And that's just how I think about.
- 23:19I just think going from manufacturer to manufacturer, it
- 23:22takes time to get used to that bike When you go from BMW
- 23:27because the BMW is an in line and then you go to Ducati, which
- 23:31is a four V. It's, it's, it's, I don't, I
- 23:35don't like it and I get it. It's a business, right?
- 23:39This guy's giving me more money. There's more opportunities.
- 23:42This bike is winning. So I want to be on a winning
- 23:44bike and I get it. So I'm, I'm, I'm not opposed to
- 23:47anybody switching over. But what I don't like is I don't
- 23:51like the going back and forth. I think you should stick with
- 23:56the team. Ride it out.
- 24:00Everybody wants to be in that duck.
- 24:02But BMW was dominant in this, in this class, you know, I mean, B,
- 24:07MB, MWSI don't know. Well, you know, it just to to
- 24:12hear rumors because I wasn't there.
- 24:15He didn't say to me it, it, it sound like Cam was saying last
- 24:18year, you know, anytime he tried to go fast the, the BMW wanted
- 24:23to kill him. I mean, he's still got a title
- 24:26out of it. So I mean, that's not the way
- 24:28you want necessarily want to race, you know, 12 rounds a
- 24:32year, you know, 2 races a a weekend riding a bike that you
- 24:36think as soon as I I want to go a little bit faster is going to
- 24:38try to kill me. Hey, BMW is just raw power and
- 24:44you're a rider and and I mean, come on, I mean.
- 24:55Yeah, exactly. I, I, I, I just shake my head
- 24:59like the BMW is just trying to kill me.
- 25:01Like that's, that's, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
- 25:05Well, I mean, you know, I'm pretty sure it's not the first
- 25:08person or manufacturer to, for someone to say that because we,
- 25:13we said that about the Honda and Moto G, We didn't say it, but
- 25:15riders said that about the, the Honda and Moto GP.
- 25:19Some, you know, the you know, up until recent, you know, so there
- 25:25are bikes out there that may have raw power, but may not have
- 25:29enough to to make you go fast and and and and we and we have
- 25:32seen that with Ducati in the early days as well.
- 25:35When I say early days, you know the the 24th 1516 years, but
- 25:401718 when the bike was had the power, but you know what I'm
- 25:44saying you. Couldn't, you couldn't turn it.
- 25:45The only way to turn the thing was on training wheels.
- 25:49The bike just wouldn't turn right.
- 25:50Just want to go straight, straight through the turn.
- 25:52So I get it. I think as a rider you have to
- 25:56adjust. This is the game that we're in.
- 26:02I don't. So you're going to go to Ducati,
- 26:04you're going to get a completely different motorcycle, completely
- 26:08different data. What are you going to say over
- 26:10there now? I think it's good to say with
- 26:13the evil that you have. Yeah, yeah.
- 26:15I, I mean, I don't, you know, we don't know the back story.
- 26:17I don't mean obviously Ducati, I mean BMW is a factory team as
- 26:22well. So I don't, I don't know the
- 26:23insurance and out. I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, you
- 26:25know, as some of these riders after a certain, I mean, I think
- 26:29always, but maybe after a certain age, it's more about,
- 26:31you know, how happy I am with an organization and, you know,
- 26:35maybe Cam is chasing the money or maybe he just, you know, it
- 26:38want to be in a better situation, Who knows?
- 26:41It's not just, it doesn't just come down to the bike.
- 26:43When I think riders, you know, make a decision, a decision,
- 26:47especially when these guys have been 1, you know, multiple World
- 26:52Motor America titles and 1, I don't think he won any races in
- 26:55Moto 2, but he might have been on a podium so.
- 27:00In, in, in all of racing right, who has left one factory, go to
- 27:06another factory and be immediately be successful.
- 27:10Valentino Rossi. He cheats.
- 27:14I mean, I mean, Valentino Rossi is, is is is an anomaly, right?
- 27:18I mean, that's just. With top, top top rack.
- 27:23Even if Yamaha won a championship with the BMW,
- 27:26right? Yes, I guess he did that as
- 27:28well. Yes, he did that as.
- 27:29Well, yeah, he did do that and and.
- 27:33Almost, Mark. Marquez wait, wait, wait.
- 27:35Did so how many how? How many years is top rack with
- 27:37BMW? Two or three?
- 27:41Two. I think it's two, yeah.
- 27:44OK, yeah, yeah. So yeah, then he won
- 27:45back-to-back on two year. OK, yeah, he was another guy,
- 27:48but he didn't win. He didn't win the title the year
- 27:50before, though. Right.
- 27:52That's OK. Maybe because Alvarez when he
- 27:55got to back-to-back and then he left and then he got the
- 27:59back-to-back. OK.
- 28:00But yeah, so I mean, you know, Rossi came off and win a title
- 28:04with Yamaha, Honda and and went to Yamaha, won a title.
- 28:09I think there's a couple of other riders that did that too.
- 28:11So I'm not going to sit here and say Rossi.
- 28:12It's the only one, but it's far and few, you know, and most,
- 28:17most riders kind of struggle a little bit.
- 28:20I think there's a few riders that go to a new manufacturer, a
- 28:23new, a new brand and and do well right out the gate.
- 28:28Most people, it'll take them half a season towards the end of
- 28:32the season to start, and some guys will take even the whole
- 28:35season to start to feel that, feel a bike underneath them.
- 28:39Yeah. I mean, it's just everything
- 28:45that the the compression of the front brakes, certain
- 28:47manufacturers is easier. The front brake feels different,
- 28:50the rear brake feels different, the clutch feels different, the
- 28:53seating is different, the way the pegs are on the motorcycle
- 28:56feels different. The steering, there's just so
- 29:01much to account for. And I just believe he should
- 29:04have railed BMW out because I think that's BMW series.
- 29:10Well, I listen before we're not going to jump into we're going
- 29:13to stay in motor America. But yeah, it should be BMW
- 29:18series in the world super bike, but it doesn't look that way and
- 29:21we'll get to that. But let's talk about some of
- 29:23these other guy, you know, Bobby went on a Bobby Fong, you know,
- 29:27new bike last year or factory seat last year because he rode
- 29:31the Yamaha year before, but just not factory first time on a
- 29:34factory seat. He had that.
- 29:36He had the title. Like I mean, they were starting
- 29:39to engrave his name in it. And and, you know, a couple of
- 29:43bad, bad decisions towards the ends and it's mostly crashes for
- 29:47one reason or another. He didn't he didn't get there.
- 29:50So you know, for a Ryder like that coming to this season, you
- 29:54know, I would say, you know, he he should be the favorite to
- 29:57win. But what would it take?
- 30:00Because it's going to take us. You know, you have to have that
- 30:02Kobe mentality in O8 when they lost to the Celtics, right to
- 30:05say here and go, I'm going to do everything I need to do to be
- 30:09ready. What are your thoughts Bobby on
- 30:11on on what it takes to for Fong to to try to win the title this
- 30:16year? I think you just got to lock in
- 30:18like you said. I mean it was the name was being
- 30:21engraved on on the side of the trophy.
- 30:23You just have to lock in. And I think that's the problem
- 30:26with racing too, which a lot of people really understand.
- 30:28Yeah, it's bike. Yeah, it's pit.
- 30:31But 95% of it's just cognitive, right?
- 30:34It's all in your head. Are you seeing, are you seeing
- 30:38the turns coming up before this guy?
- 30:40Are you seeing the chaos? Are you able to escape the
- 30:43chaos? All that stuff just weighs on on
- 30:45your mental. And I just think over the course
- 30:47of the season that broke down for him, I don't think it was
- 30:50anything mechanical. I just thought it was all mental
- 30:53and you got to clear your mind and you just got to get back at
- 30:57it again. Like that song Clear your mind.
- 31:00What are your thoughts, TJ Man, what, what, what, what can Fong
- 31:04do? What should Fong do differently
- 31:06this year to to hopefully, you know, make it over the hill or
- 31:11make it on top of the mountain, however you want to call it?
- 31:16To the pinnacle. I mean, hey, I said I'd say just
- 31:24got to right off the gate. Just attack basically just what
- 31:29their name is, attack Elma. He's got the right off the gate.
- 31:34Just try to get his marks in where he was able to go to World
- 31:38super bike last year and get some testing.
- 31:40I'm sure hopefully that can rub off a little bit where he can
- 31:45set his marks in just already be as fast as he can and then
- 31:50gradually get better during the season because he started really
- 31:55well last year. I'm sure you can do the same
- 31:56thing. It's just he just let it slip
- 31:59away. So I'm sure he still has a sour
- 32:03taste in his mouth over that. And it's just one way around it.
- 32:06It's just you just got to start right from the jump.
- 32:08You can't let anything slip. And like we were talking to
- 32:12Reese before, he just can't overthink.
- 32:14I just got to go. So that's one thing that he's
- 32:16really big on. So hopefully he can just not
- 32:21thinking, just just be in his groove and go and I'm sure the
- 32:25results are going to come, right.
- 32:27No, no doubt, no doubt. JD Beats is going to be his
- 32:31teammate this season. He's his teammate this season.
- 32:35He came off of a Honda last year.
- 32:39Do you think this is a good combination for these guys?
- 32:44You know, I mean, last year he had Gonye.
- 32:46Gonye had a world, a bunch of titles.
- 32:49JJD beats is a fast ride. I'm not, you know, he but this
- 32:52is going to be new for him on the on the Yamaha, new on his
- 32:55team and stuff like that. You know, as a as a guy coming
- 32:58in. I mean, you know, I guess he's
- 33:00Bobby last year. I mean, but it's possible that
- 33:03JD could be fighting for the world title.
- 33:05I mean, the the the vote of America title.
- 33:08What are your thoughts on that Shakes?
- 33:10Like I said, I guess I have to, I have to be consistent because
- 33:12people are going to watch the show, right?
- 33:15Yeah. Yeah, I mean, so I got to be
- 33:17consistent, so I don't want to sound like I don't know what I'm
- 33:19talking about. I think it's going to be hard to
- 33:22adjust on a new machine, especially when you're chasing
- 33:26the world title. And now you have to, not only do
- 33:29you have to get yourself up to speed, you have to get your
- 33:31partner up to speed too. It it's, it's, I don't like it.
- 33:39I just don't like it. I think.
- 33:40I think it's tough and that's when the mental breakdowns start
- 33:43to happen over the course of the season because you're not just
- 33:46worrying about your bike, you're worried about the data coming
- 33:50off your partner's bike and then now you're talking in the
- 33:52paddock. What should we do?
- 33:53This and that and that, instead of you just going in and
- 33:56concentrating, It's like you have to carry a teammate.
- 33:58And I get it, it's team sport, right?
- 34:00It's a team sport. You got to carry a teammate.
- 34:03But at what point do we stop doing this?
- 34:06Yeah. You know, you guys are both in
- 34:09Boston, so I'll give you this analogy, TJ, You know, JD Beats
- 34:15and and Fong might be like Tatum and Brown in the sense that JD,
- 34:21he could get MVP. So he's no slouch.
- 34:28So I think it's a really, I, it's a really good replacement
- 34:32for Jake Kanye to have JD beats for the seats with Bobby Fong.
- 34:39JD Beach is a really good writer.
- 34:42He's a very likeable writer. He's definitely won a lot of
- 34:46races, especially towards the end of the season.
- 34:51But he's a writer that you can count on that can get it done.
- 34:55So even though it's on a, you know, a, a factory seat might
- 35:01take him a little bit to get a test, but you can count on that
- 35:04he's going to get a podium. So I think Bobby's would be a
- 35:07good example for him to pull him along.
- 35:10And I think that that squad is going to be probably at the top,
- 35:14I'm hoping. But I think he I think he's a
- 35:16really good writer. Like he's no slouch at all.
- 35:18So I think there will be a good combination for the season.
- 35:23Got you, got you. I, I, I, I completely agree.
- 35:25I mean, I think it's, it's, it's a really good replacement and
- 35:29I'm glad to see him in the paddock.
- 35:30I remember seeing him in, in Austin for the first time back
- 35:34in like 20-19 at the my Moto GP. I figured who he was with.
- 35:39He might have been with camp, but I figured who he was with.
- 35:43No, actually, he was with Jake Connie, I think back then.
- 35:46What about, you know, risky, Richie Escalante, Sean Dylan,
- 35:51Kelly, Hatem Gillan, You know, these are some guys that as you
- 35:57were saying, the field is going to be pretty thick.
- 36:00You know, I, I think that Aston Yates, we got PJ Jacobson coming
- 36:07into World Super Bike, North America Super Bike Championship
- 36:11and these are the guys, I mean, you know, on paper they should
- 36:19be right there, right. So what are your thoughts on
- 36:21these guys? We, we saw, we saw Cam last
- 36:25year, Heron last year and Fong kind of rise to the top as the
- 36:29season went on. You guys think it'd be kind of
- 36:32be similar. It might just be 3 riders that
- 36:34figure it out because as we know with racing all these things got
- 36:39to go right and if you keep putting that bike on the deck in
- 36:43a race, you ain't getting points that way.
- 36:46So what are your thoughts, Shakes?
- 36:50Like, like we just said, you can't.
- 36:51The bike, bikes got to stay up. We also got to understand when
- 36:55rain weather's coming, we're picking the right tires.
- 36:58So there's a lot to go on over the course of the season.
- 37:00I hope that it's just not a 1/2. I hope that there's more
- 37:03competition. I hope more people step up
- 37:06because it gets boring after a while when there's just this
- 37:08this, this dominance. But I believe the you know what?
- 37:13I'm going to go on a limb like I did last year on the show all.
- 37:17Right. I'm going to take the field.
- 37:20OK, you so you think the field's going to do well?
- 37:23I think the field's going to do. I got to take the field.
- 37:25Last year, you know, I was all Ducati and, you know, won again.
- 37:30But this year, think I'm going on.
- 37:32I think, I think I'm stepping on the limb and I'm going with the
- 37:34field this year. Yeah.
- 37:36I don't think it's going to be I, I, I there's a lot of
- 37:38shifting going around, a lot of seats being moved around.
- 37:42Something's got to give. And I'm going with the field and
- 37:45I and I want that market. I want that in pen, in pen. 8:57
- 37:504/15/2020 6:00 I'm going with the field.
- 37:53OK all. Right.
- 37:54We're going to state. We're every every week there's
- 37:56going to be a different podium. Yeah, OK, All right, let's see
- 38:00that I'm. I'll listen, man.
- 38:01I'm going to, you know, rouch it when I get there.
- 38:05I'll be there this weekend. I'll ask some riders.
- 38:07I'm like Shake says it's going to be a shake up.
- 38:10What are we seeing? What are your thoughts, TJ, man,
- 38:12you believe what Shakes the same that, you know, we got the top
- 38:15ten, right? Any top ten rider can win.
- 38:19There's 12. There's 11-12 rounds.
- 38:22I mean, I, I don't think that I mean maybe maybe the first
- 38:26couple of races, but I think it'll even out.
- 38:28I think the first team that can get up to speed the quickest
- 38:31will have the best advantage to, you know, get past the hump.
- 38:37Every track is different. So we got to find out who will
- 38:40have the best setup for for this layout.
- 38:44Like Shondell Kelly, like you mentioned him, he's on a BMW,
- 38:47but you know, he's a really good rider, but can he muscle that
- 38:50bike around like Beaubier did and and get wins?
- 38:55So that's going to be a tough task for him.
- 38:57And you know, Richie Esconte has a like all new paint job this
- 39:02year. So with his, I forget what what
- 39:05it's called, but but will that give him motivation to try to,
- 39:11you know, get on the podium more because of, you know, the
- 39:15troubles that he had in the past?
- 39:16So, oh, I think I think I think hopefully the field can step up.
- 39:21But at the end, Bobby Fong has been on this bike.
- 39:24It'll be his second year. So he knows what's what's going
- 39:27on same team. And so I think he has the best
- 39:30advantage. And yeah, there's we'll see.
- 39:34Hopefully it's a fair, hopefully we see like Schultz up there,
- 39:37PJ, that would be good to see that they already did the bike
- 39:42before stuff. Yeah, you know, I got to say
- 39:45Schultz and PJ got to be hungry because, you know, all these
- 39:48guys are similar in age, but you know, Schultz and Schultz have
- 39:51to go back to Super Sport and I, I'm not 100% sure, but I'm sure
- 39:56PJ was in Super Bike and they went back as well.
- 40:00And so, you know, they had, they've been sitting there in
- 40:02the Super Sport class the last few years, sitting here looking
- 40:05at them Super Bike class. Like man, I'm just, I'm just one
- 40:10contract away, you know what I'm saying?
- 40:13So those guys, you know. So shakes might be on or
- 40:15something because those guys going to be hungry too.
- 40:18And and they're not feeling like, you know, they haven't
- 40:20been on this big stage before that they're coming back.
- 40:24And you know what happens when you when you get your second
- 40:25opportunity, you generally come back with a vengeance.
- 40:28So you tap out early. Yeah, I mean, everybody's
- 40:32getting paid on the grid, right? It's not, it's not the first two
- 40:35guys are the only one getting paid.
- 40:37Everybody's getting paid. Everybody's hungry.
- 40:39And I just believe there's a lot of shifting going on with the
- 40:41top teams. And I, I got to take the 5th.
- 40:44If I'm a better man, you got to take the 5th.
- 40:46OK, all right. No doubt, No doubt we got.
- 40:49I believe, sorry, I believe Max Flinders.
- 40:51I don't know if he that's his own team, right.
- 40:54So I don't know if he's. They're they're privateer team,
- 41:00so it's, it's a little different than the factory team.
- 41:04And I think he wears a couple of hats.
- 41:06He he I think he also drives the truck and also races.
- 41:10So let's change so you know, it's different.
- 41:14You're privateer and you know your your, your, your
- 41:17expectations are different because if you ain't got the
- 41:20money like the factory guys, it's gonna be hard to keep the
- 41:23same ride. I mean that that that is the
- 41:25reality with with this sport. But let's go into before we get
- 41:29out of here, let's go into world super bike.
- 41:31That's also happening this weekend at Assen racetrack.
- 41:34One of my favorite tracks. I was fortunate to washer Moto
- 41:38GP race there in 2017. It's it's a it's a pretty fun
- 41:44place. We have world super bike there.
- 41:46We got Ika Luka Ono on the Ducati.
- 41:50He's looking really good on on that bike.
- 41:52We got Bulaga who got 1 foot in Moto GP already sounds like like
- 41:57that, like they're really trying to get him there.
- 42:00You know, what are your thoughts on world super bike guys?
- 42:05You know, we got Yari Montela, we got the Nilo Petrucci on the
- 42:09BMW. We also got Aloe Vera on the BMW
- 42:13who got on the podium in Portugal, his home track last
- 42:16round. So he got to be feeling good as
- 42:18well. You know, is, is it the Ducati
- 42:22Bulgar show like we have been hearing or do you guys, you
- 42:27know, think some of these other writers like I do, I'm not just
- 42:30going to lay down and just let let let them take it.
- 42:35It's always shakes, man. Oh, you know, I, I, I, I, I
- 42:38can't, can't be a front runner. You know, our, our homie from
- 42:41tacky Yamaha, but was on my back all season last year, all he was
- 42:46on my back. So I, I'm no longer team Ducati.
- 42:51I'm I'm out. I'm out.
- 42:53OK, for. Gucci.
- 42:55I'm going for Gucci and you know, I've been watching a lot
- 42:59of Brazilian videos of guys Wheeling that that double R in
- 43:04the streets and and, and I've just fallen in love with the
- 43:07BMWI Don't know why. It's just what I see on social
- 43:11media. It's the only bike I see people
- 43:12Wheeling and they, they, they and then bring it up, you know,
- 43:18like every, like any other bike that just roll and it goes up
- 43:20and these guys are like throwing the background wheel and, and
- 43:24I'm like, oh, I'm, I'm, I'm a BMW guy now.
- 43:26OK, I I think I've seen some of those videos too so I got an
- 43:29idea what you're talking about. They do seem to throw those bike
- 43:32around like like like a washcloth.
- 43:34Yeah, like and and they're doing it in, in, in slippers, right,
- 43:37Flip flops and and it's flip flops and, and the shirt and
- 43:42with the, the tattoo on the back.
- 43:44And then it's it's, it matches the BMW power, right.
- 43:56A bike just has an outlaw feel, right?
- 43:59Even when when it first got introduced, right, Heated grips,
- 44:02like, Oh my God, that's, that's, that's, you know, it.
- 44:05The, the BMW has always been just an outlaw bike, a lot of
- 44:11power and I like the street culture behind BMW this year.
- 44:14Ducati, you know, it's, it's, it's too much now, you know,
- 44:17tea, cappuccino, cannolis, too much.
- 44:20I can't go on. This.
- 44:24Year I can't be the same like last year.
- 44:26You know, you, you have to evolve, no doubt, no doubt.
- 44:29And the BMW is a different machine for sure.
- 44:32So what are your thoughts, TJ? Is BMW the new rebel?
- 44:40Definitely. I mean, those DMW's got those
- 44:42big wings on the front. You know, it's hard to come up.
- 44:45You know, they plant them to the ground.
- 44:47But at the end of the day, right now it is the Ducati Boudiga
- 44:52show. So it is his season to lose.
- 44:57Like we all know that. Like he knows that he's coming
- 45:02out every race so far now, playing around this races that
- 45:06he slipped back a few spots and was still able to make his way
- 45:10to the front. So right now it's his show.
- 45:14Last round was a really good round to see, you know, like
- 45:18Miguel get a podium all three races and you know, they've seen
- 45:23the BMW up there. But hopefully he can have that
- 45:29carry over to Athens. He knows the track, he's been
- 45:34there the Moto GP. So it's just more less the setup
- 45:38and what the BMW can do. Hopefully you can call top
- 45:41brackets and data, but hopefully Ecolac Iwana can stay up there.
- 45:46But right now I think it's the the Bulgug show.
- 45:50I don't know if Petrucci and and Olivera can.
- 45:55Maintain. You know, maintain all the way
- 45:57through, especially 3 races a weekend and surpass Ducati right
- 46:01now so. No, if I'm if I'm Danilo and my
- 46:07teammate who just got to World Super Bike is already doing
- 46:11better than me, I would be very hungry.
- 46:14I'll be be in Brazil doing wheelies with these guys on with
- 46:17tattoos on your back and flip flops.
- 46:21I'll be riding with them trying to figure out like yo oh y'all
- 46:24made that BMW do what it's doing.
- 46:27Can I ask Tja question? Tji thought it was the Ducati.
- 46:31I thought it was Ducati last season.
- 46:33Was it last season? Their season?
- 46:36Why this season? Well, I'll say, 'cause you know,
- 46:41Bullock is only the county, the factory.
- 46:43So it's, well, I'll say it's the Bullock show, It's the Bullock
- 46:46show. I mean last round Igolaka won
- 46:51all three races 1 and 2. Last year Why it was not a
- 46:55Bullock show last year 'cause it's.
- 46:57Not a Bullock show. It was a it was a top rash show.
- 47:00I said this year is a Bullock Booga show this year.
- 47:03Yeah, but oh, OK, I, I because because the best guy's out.
- 47:08So I, I guess you're right. Second place is the first loser
- 47:12when the first, the first guy's out and you become in the 1st
- 47:15place. I don't think it's a Beluga
- 47:17show. Listen, shakes the first shakes
- 47:20the first time you brought your camera into three.
- 47:22CSI was going to bring my camera but I forgot my battery at home.
- 47:26Rest is history. What do you want?
- 47:27What do you want? All right, OK, It makes sense.
- 47:37So you, you you could have been the great, right, but you forgot
- 47:42your battery. And then and then I just took
- 47:45off. OK, so, so, so, so this year's
- 47:48Bullock's Chance because. All right.
- 47:52Top rock is not there, no battery.
- 47:55I guess, I guess Petucci doesn't get any doesn't, doesn't get
- 47:59paid right, doesn't get paid to race a bike, right.
- 48:02I mean, look, I'm, I'm, I'm a huge Petucci fan and you know,
- 48:07I, I think this guy is, I wish he would have stayed with
- 48:10Ducati, right? But you know, you, you have a
- 48:13factory team offering you factory money.
- 48:16You're taking it right. I mean, at the end of the day,
- 48:19so you can't, you can't be wrong with what he's done.
- 48:23And you never know, the season is young, but I do hope he's
- 48:25able to put that bike on a podium because when he since
- 48:28he's been with Ducati and World Super bike, he's done really
- 48:31amazing things on a satellite team.
- 48:34And I yeah, yeah, Eka Eka Luca owner deserve that factory
- 48:40Ducati see, because what he did on the Honda.
- 48:42So I'm not even mad with Ducati picking Eco over over Petrucci
- 48:47and Petrucci got a factory seat. So I do hope he does well and
- 48:52I'm not going to rule him out with Olivera.
- 48:54Olivera is a is a nice rider as well.
- 48:57So it's it's it's it should be good fighting every weekend.
- 49:01But Olivera getting those 3 podiums last round and Petrucci
- 49:05was nowhere that that's that doesn't look good either.
- 49:08So Petrucci really has to do something ass and, you know, to
- 49:14show that he can he's just as competitive because right now
- 49:17Olivier is saying, hey, yeah, give me some time.
- 49:19I'm third place. I can, I can at least maintain
- 49:223rd place. You know, we'll see.
- 49:25That's my thought with Petrucci and Bulguga.
- 49:28But Bulguga is right on a different level and you know,
- 49:32he's only been in World Super Bike now this is his third year,
- 49:35so you have to keep that in mind as well.
- 49:37And it looks like he's going to have a seat in Moto GP next year
- 49:42at the moment. So, you know, so let's talk
- 49:45about some of these other riders before we talk a little bit
- 49:47about those rumors and get out of here.
- 49:50You know, it's mostly Bulaga for sure.
- 49:51We talk about Eka. Let's talk about the lows
- 49:54brothers. One on a bit Moto, one on a
- 49:57Ducati. These guys look both look really
- 50:00strong. The Bitmodo looks really strong.
- 50:04What are your thoughts on, you know, these, these, these guys
- 50:07and you expect to see a lot from them this weekend?
- 50:11They're the best. They're from England.
- 50:13I. Was just going to say that I.
- 50:14Mean. Come on, come on, come on.
- 50:18I'd save the king. Where's my passport?
- 50:20I'll have my passport. I'll never say anything bad
- 50:23about an English writer. OK, there you go.
- 50:26So there you have it. Like there's not much else to
- 50:29say what you're talking to. Say and that's it.
- 50:31On the On the Lone Brothers. I think it's, I think they're
- 50:37doing so far really well this year.
- 50:39I mean we know them as what the like Lewis calls them, the Crash
- 50:43brothers. What you.
- 50:46Know, I, I think they're, they're doing really well,
- 50:48especially, you know, the promoter, what is on his second
- 50:52season, I believe, or third season.
- 50:54So just carrying it the way he is, just you can see their
- 50:59improvement. And I don't know how they
- 51:02jellies off the track with each other, but it seems like when
- 51:06one's doing good, the other one's doing good and one's not
- 51:09the host is not also, But hopefully they can keep it going
- 51:15and see him in the mix and, you know, stir the part and, and
- 51:20hopefully change the, the race outcome.
- 51:24But I know last year at this race, I know Lockatelli, not to
- 51:28go switch the subject, but Lockatelli was up there and
- 51:30hopefully knowing that he's one hair that he can get himself on
- 51:36the podium as well to shake things up.
- 51:40Yeah, hopefully. Speaking of a Yamaha rider, what
- 51:43about Remy? I got to say Remy's been he's
- 51:48one of the one of the only one of the few riders that's kind of
- 51:51struggled in the world super bike.
- 51:53I expected to see Remy a lot faster, a lot further in the in
- 51:58the in the grid position, in the finishes and stuff like that.
- 52:03And you know, he's really, you know, he's I wouldn't say
- 52:07struggle, but Remy Gardner definitely, you know, is like he
- 52:11won the world title Moto Moto 2, right?
- 52:14And and and him and and him and Martine went to Moto GP together
- 52:19the same year, right, because it was Remy one and he was 2 on the
- 52:22KTMS. And to see him struggle like this in in in world super
- 52:28bike is interesting and and Moto GP, but he only had one year
- 52:31Moto GP. We have thoughts on Remy Gardner
- 52:34in the Yamaha and and how he's doing and should we expect to
- 52:37see more from him. He should be a top five writer
- 52:39in my in my eyes in the by the end of the season.
- 52:43But we'll see what happens be a thaw shakes.
- 52:46I don't want to get beat up, so I'm Yamaha all the way.
- 52:50I, I don't know where he is. I'm looking over my shoulder,
- 52:55but I'm doing Yamaha. I I got to go Yamaha.
- 52:58I, I told you, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a change man from last season.
- 53:02I'm a change man. And, and, and to go back to the
- 53:06lows, I don't like how what what TJ said about calling those guys
- 53:10crash dummies. That sounds like 4th of July
- 53:12talk. Like, yeah, yeah, that's like
- 53:161776. We got our independence talk.
- 53:19I was kind of offended by that, but I'm just going to let it go.
- 53:22Don't be 4th of July of TJ. Well, it's not, it's not.
- 53:25He's just repeating what someone else has said.
- 53:27So, OK, all right. And he's actually just a message
- 53:30in this this instance. Don't kill the messenger.
- 53:45When you cause TJ man on Remy Gardner, no, he he should be
- 53:49doing more than what he's doing. Yeah, I mean like he seems like
- 53:54he's just mid pack right now. So luckily he's not in the back.
- 53:57He's finishing between like 10 and 12 or 13 ish, but I think he
- 54:02can do a lot better. Just got to get got to lock in.
- 54:06I mean, I don't know if it's the transition part.
- 54:09I know he's been in war Super bike for a few years now, but
- 54:13you know, like Moto 3, Moto 2 and GP, they have more of a
- 54:17consistent schedule and World Super Bikes kind of like little
- 54:20spread out more. I mean, there's no excuses, but
- 54:23I don't know, just trying to find out what's the struggle.
- 54:27But it could be his teammates, not his teammates, but like, you
- 54:31know, his crew members not communicating well or something.
- 54:35Him not communicating what really needs to be done.
- 54:40I think he came over the same time as Ika, Luka Ono and
- 54:43outside of their crashes that Ika had and had injuries, that's
- 54:46the only reason why he wasn't riding where this guy, he just,
- 54:50I mean, he crashed a lot, but just it just it just seemed like
- 54:53he's been, you know, he he didn't show the same.
- 54:57I shouldn't say that in Moto 2. It took him a while to get
- 55:00going, but he was on a less spec bite and everybody else.
- 55:04And when he got that factory seat on the, on the KTM, he won
- 55:09a title. So and you know, he, they, he's
- 55:12been, no, people have been known to say he it takes a little bit
- 55:15to get going. So I do, I do hope to see a lot
- 55:19from him this year because this will be the year that is that's
- 55:21for him. It's time to get going.
- 55:23You know what I mean? And you know it.
- 55:26It's, I mean, for me, I don't really care.
- 55:28But like, if you're not producing or you don't have
- 55:30photos of your boss, I I think it's hard to stay in the world.
- 55:34Super bike about a GP if you ain't producing.
- 55:38Yeah. Yeah, it might.
- 55:42Do something, need some some results, need some results.
- 55:46Like it'll be good to see him. They at least be top five.
- 55:49You don't even have to get back on the podium just to see him,
- 55:53you know, on the camera basically because you know, they
- 55:56show basically top, top 10 writers.
- 55:59So. Yeah, no, I, I, I completely
- 56:01agree. All right, guys, before we get
- 56:03out of here, let's talk about the silly rumors that we that
- 56:06we've been seeing on social media and stuff like that.
- 56:10Somebody over there is having a good time, but you know, what
- 56:14are your thoughts on, you know, we got a couple of young riders
- 56:17that look like they're coming in Moto GP, so we probably got some
- 56:20guys that'll leave in Moto GP. So it looks like, you know,
- 56:24Miller might not be here right now next season.
- 56:30They may be that this talks of Luca and stuff like that.
- 56:33What do you guys think of the silly, silly season as far as
- 56:37the rumors and stuff like that? I've seen people come out and
- 56:39say these guys are already signed and they just waiting to
- 56:42announce it and all this craziness.
- 56:45Should we just wait and see or or some of this is kind of is
- 56:49true, but it'll just wait until for the public to tell it.
- 56:52Tell it to the public. Be a thought, shakes.
- 56:57Miller, Miller. Miller.
- 57:03Miller Miller Miller, Miller Last season is always on the
- 57:06ground. I hate these type of rumors.
- 57:13I want to see Miller stay. I think last season was bad for
- 57:18him. I also get it.
- 57:21It has to be progression. We have the only way the sport
- 57:24grows is with young riders, right?
- 57:28Just the the the sport can't move forward with old guys and I
- 57:32just feel that some old guys need another season to just to
- 57:36prove their worth. We talked about Bullogan, maybe
- 57:45Gabby, Alonzo, Mean. These guys are coming in.
- 57:50It it's good for the sport, it's good for the sport to get fresh
- 57:55blood in, but sometimes I feel the Ogs just need one more
- 58:01season to really prove their worth.
- 58:03I think Miller, I mean, said it all last year.
- 58:06If, if he if he wasn't at the grid, he was in the gravel,
- 58:11right? Either grid or gravel.
- 58:15And he did, did he? He did get a wet rain, right?
- 58:20Last year, no, that's Zarko, but he did.
- 58:23I think he did well, but it. Was I did well once in the rain?
- 58:27I think it was a struggle on on the Yamaha overall last.
- 58:30Year it was a struggle. You know what, whatever I just
- 58:38said just delete it. Can I just delete it?
- 58:40Sure. I want new blood, I want the
- 58:43sport to grow and that's the only way SP is going to grows.
- 58:46Only where Motor America is going to grows, only way that
- 58:49club racing is going to go. The only way the sport can
- 58:52evolve, it would just keep on filling it with new blood, fresh
- 58:55blood that can actually ride. So I'm all for it.
- 59:01As you get older, like I said before, cognitive, you just get
- 59:04slower. You just get slower.
- 59:07And as a spectator of the sport, I want to see people who go
- 59:11fast. And it sucks though.
- 59:16It sucks when you get to that old age and there's there's a
- 59:23new Moto G. There was just a million Moto GP
- 59:26guys born today, right now all over the world, all over the
- 59:31world, a whole bunch of them, millions of them just born
- 59:33today. Now we have to wait and see.
- 59:36Can they make it? No doubt.
- 59:37What are your thoughts, TJ? I mean, rumors, I think we
- 59:46should just wait and see. I mean wait and see.
- 59:48I mean, at the end of the day, we kind of know where things
- 59:54kind of like are going to be lined up for the most part or
- 59:59where where riders are headed. Some sometimes a little
- 1:00:03confused. And like, like Barbara, she's
- 1:00:04saying he wants some of the best to stay a little longer, like
- 1:00:07one more year. I mean, that's like how we we
- 1:00:10see Brad Bender, but you know, other writers just get get out
- 1:00:13quick. You know, that that has
- 1:00:16experience that that you know that I'm not producing.
- 1:00:19And then like we looked at like Mober deli.
- 1:00:23You can just kind of see where where that's going to.
- 1:00:25So like the rumors that you hear.
- 1:00:28I kind of just rather wait and see if you kind of already like
- 1:00:33sort of have an idea what's going to happen except for like,
- 1:00:36you know, major contracts. Like I think we know I Gore's
- 1:00:40going to Yamaha and. So you heard that too.
- 1:00:50So. I mean, yeah, this guy has his
- 1:00:52ear to the door with the glass. He's listening.
- 1:00:59But yeah, just wait to see, man. Everybody was like, we never can
- 1:01:03get the news anyway. It's like we always got to fight
- 1:01:05for it. So I'm just I'll be content.
- 1:01:07Just wait. Wait till it comes out and and
- 1:01:10judge when that happens. I agree.
- 1:01:14I agree there's something to be said about waiting, but we don't
- 1:01:19have to wait. We got racing this weekend.
- 1:01:21I'm looking forward to it. My name is Rex 45.
- 1:01:24It's the Be forever Cool podcast.
- 1:01:25I want to thank Bobby Shakes. I want to thank TJ with two Wiz
- 1:01:30on coffee. Peace.
- 1:01:33Peace. Never wear a full face.
- 1:01:36Who? Who never wear a full face?
- 1:01:40Indian Motorcycles. Let's go.