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Elder Abuse? · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start
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Speaker 1: your day and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, twenty seventh day of May.
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Speaker 3: I'm Wes.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me day after Memorial Day, so I
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Speaker 2: hope you took some time to reflect and I hope
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Speaker 2: you gave the appropriate, appropriate reaction to the holiday. Hope
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Speaker 2: you're not one of those people shooting fireworks. I don't
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Speaker 2: understand that we had people shooting fireworks again this year.
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Speaker 2: It seems to have tapered off a bit. I don't
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Speaker 2: understand what the thinking there is behind the fireworks on
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Speaker 2: Memorial Day. It doesn't really I think it goes back
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Speaker 2: to COVID. I've pondered this a bit. I think it
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Speaker 2: goes back to COVID.
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Speaker 3: I know there was a.
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Speaker 2: Period where the fireworks distributors, the sales people, the businesses
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Speaker 2: that that was there, that that was their business when
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Speaker 2: they weren't able to sell fireworks for Independence Day, and
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Speaker 2: then they had some problems issues with getting sales for
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Speaker 2: New Years and it was a significant hit form. It's
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Speaker 2: a business that basically has two days a year that
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Speaker 2: they all of the sales revolve around. Sure, there might
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Speaker 2: be someone that wants to pop in and buy fireworks
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Speaker 2: just for fun. Maybe they've got a big event and
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Speaker 2: they want to have some fireworks at their big event.
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Speaker 3: And I get it.
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Speaker 2: If you take that kind of a hit, you're looking
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Speaker 2: for some sort of ways, I guess, to recover and recoup.
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Speaker 2: And I think there was a period where people said, well,
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Speaker 2: maybe some of these other holidays we can because there
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Speaker 2: were people shooting fireworks around you here, maybe not this
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Speaker 2: past Christmas, but at Christmas time, and it's just what
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Speaker 2: is that. I don't understand anything about that. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you want to, you want to celebrate, but it's a
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Speaker 2: strange connection. And I would still continue to argue that
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of insensitivity to shooting fireworks for Memorial Day.
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Speaker 2: It's not what the holiday is. It's got nothing to
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Speaker 2: do with fireworks. Some people take it as hey, we
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Speaker 2: have flags and we put out red, white and blue
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Speaker 2: decorations and things for it, and therefore it makes it
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Speaker 2: a patriotic holiday, I guess. I mean, I'm trying to
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Speaker 2: play Devil's advocate here, but just know that if it's
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Speaker 2: a holiday that's memorializing people, some people who gave all
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Speaker 2: for freedoms and an idea that is America. Maybe just
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Speaker 2: assume that some of the survivors that maybe knew them,
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Speaker 2: loved them, cared for.
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Speaker 3: Them with them.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they don't want to hear booms and bombs going
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Speaker 2: off over their heads. I mean, they probably don't want
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Speaker 2: to hear them on Independence Day. They probably don't want
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Speaker 2: to hear them at midnight for the New Year. Probably,
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Speaker 2: But with those I think there's a certain acceptance that
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Speaker 2: those are going to be the holidays that's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: We're going them in the mix for Memorial Day. It's insensitive,
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Speaker 2: it's not thinking it through very well. And I don't
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Speaker 2: fault the businesses that wanted to try to recoup their losses.
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Speaker 3: I get it.
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Speaker 2: But as a place where you go, we did it
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Speaker 2: a couple of times. It's time to let it go.
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Speaker 2: It's my thoughts on it.
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Speaker 3: All.
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Speaker 2: Right, We're just days away from June, and we'll blow
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Speaker 2: through June quickly, one of those thirty day months, and
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Speaker 2: then we'll be on the second half of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 2: And I know we don't want to think ahead that way,
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Speaker 2: but it's just it's all happening fast.
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Speaker 3: It's all happen been very, very quickly.
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Speaker 2: I want to go back to something we talked about
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Speaker 2: last week because it's something that's kind.
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Speaker 3: Of been eating at me over the weekend. It's really
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Speaker 3: been eating at me.
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Speaker 2: And I've told you many times I don't I don't
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Speaker 2: listen to a lot of other similar type shows. I
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Speaker 2: like my thoughts to be mine. I didn't spend a
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Speaker 2: lot of time listening to people. So if I'm behind
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Speaker 2: on this thought, then it's just because I haven't haven't
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Speaker 2: listened to other people talking about I don't. I haven't
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Speaker 2: heard anybody mention it to me either, And.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm getting way out ahead of myself on this thought,
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Speaker 2: or maybe I'm I'm in the wrong, because again, no
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Speaker 2: one's been able to explain anything to me about the
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Speaker 2: woman in the coma, or the woman that she's not
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Speaker 2: even in a coma, the woman who has is on
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Speaker 2: life support and has been declared brain dead, that doctors
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Speaker 2: are trying to save the life of her unborn child,
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Speaker 2: and people are saying, oh, this is like the Handmaid's Tale.
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Speaker 2: You can't do this. You got to let that baby die.
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Speaker 2: And no one's been able to.
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Speaker 3: Explain to me.
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Speaker 2: The logic on the left, and I think it's in
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Speaker 2: a very extreme group on the left. I don't think
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Speaker 2: your left of center people are saying that baby needs
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Speaker 2: to die. I don't think. I don't know. Maybe you
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Speaker 2: know some of the people that feel that way, but
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Speaker 2: I haven't talked to anybody that feels that way. And
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Speaker 2: there are certainly, you know, maybe the further left you go,
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Speaker 2: you're going to start finding those people now, the people
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Speaker 2: that I know that have been talking about it, I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have known that they were that extreme left. I
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Speaker 2: don't know, or if they just feel like they're mad
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Speaker 2: because someone told them to be mad.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Both sides have people that get that way.
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Speaker 3: I want to be clear on that as well.
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Speaker 2: So, uh, this is another one I don't understand. And
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Speaker 2: I think at some point maybe we need to have
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Speaker 2: this conversation. And I want to say, I'm gonna say
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Speaker 2: some names, and you tell me, maybe just think about
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Speaker 2: what some of these people.
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Speaker 3: Have in common, Okay.
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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna start with I mean, they're all famous people.
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Speaker 2: I think, all right, we'll start with Priscilla Presley, ex
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Speaker 2: wife to Elvis, you know, movie star in her own right,
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Speaker 2: that's that's number one on the list. That's the first
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Speaker 2: name I'm gonna throw out. Let's start at Wendy Williams,
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Speaker 2: a you know TV talk show host, famous.
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Speaker 3: In her own right. That's another one.
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Speaker 2: Mickey Rooney. Everybody loved Mickey Rooney. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 2: some of his stuff, Breakfast of Tiffany's stuff didn't age well,
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Speaker 2: but you know Mickey Rooney.
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Speaker 3: That's another one.
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Speaker 2: Beloved actor stan Lee comic book Godfather, if you will,
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Speaker 2: creator of many of your favorite Marvel characters over the years,
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Speaker 2: and a movie star in his own right. I mean,
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Speaker 2: the guy had a role in most of the highest
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Speaker 2: grossing movies ever as playing basically a version of himself.
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Speaker 2: That's just a handful. There's others, but let's just start
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Speaker 2: with that group. What are these people have in common.
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Speaker 2: They've all had, at least in some degree, accusations of
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Speaker 2: people in their lives. In some cases, you know, these
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Speaker 2: turn into criminal complaints elder abuse. Right, this is serious.
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Speaker 2: You can't take advantage of someone who is a very
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Speaker 2: senior and incapable of, you know, functioning properly in our world.
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Speaker 2: You can't take advantage of them. There are laws in
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Speaker 2: place to protect seniors so that the things that they
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Speaker 2: do on a daily basis that maybe puts them in
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Speaker 2: a vulnerable position that they can't be taken advantage of.
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Speaker 2: I can tell you I have a first hand experience
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Speaker 2: with one of these people that I've named, and I
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Speaker 2: can't tell you one way or the other where things
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Speaker 2: fall from a criminal standpoint with stan Lee. But Stanley,
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Speaker 2: of course passed away and a lot of people felt
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Speaker 2: like maybe in his final days there were people in
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Speaker 2: his life who were taking advantage of him. Very seniors,
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Speaker 2: still very sought after. And you think, and I mentioned
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Speaker 2: the Marvel movies, the fact that he was still a
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Speaker 2: very high profile person in the comic book world, comic
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Speaker 2: book movies, and you know, people still wanted an opportunity
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Speaker 2: to meet stan Lee, take a photo with Stanley. They
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Speaker 2: wanted an opportunity to do that.
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Speaker 3: And there were people in.
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Speaker 2: His life who said, Hey, we can make this happen.
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Speaker 2: We can make these appearances happen, and he was showing
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Speaker 2: up at these appearances. Now I met stan Lee, if
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Speaker 2: you want to call it, meeting him at Dragon Con
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Speaker 2: several years ago. A friend came to me and said, hey,
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Speaker 2: I have paid for a chance to take a photo
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Speaker 2: with stan Lee and you can have up to four
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Speaker 2: people in the photo, and it's just me and my daughter.
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Speaker 2: Would you and your brother like to join us for
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Speaker 2: the photo? And I said, sure, I get to take
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Speaker 2: a photo with stan Lee. Absolutely, I would love to
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Speaker 2: have an opportunity to say hi to stan Lee or
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Speaker 2: shake his hand or you know whatever, and photo sounds fantastic.
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Speaker 2: So the four of us were standing in a line
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Speaker 2: where they corral people in to take photos.
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Speaker 3: And it's a big part of.
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Speaker 2: Conventions like Dragon Con an opportunity to meet and take
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Speaker 2: photos with Now, I've taken many photos with many people
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Speaker 2: to typically maybe in a party setting or you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm someone that I've interviewed and I take a photo
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Speaker 2: with them. This was my first experience with one of
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Speaker 2: these situations where you're paying for this photo where they
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Speaker 2: take you in and you take the photo, and a
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Speaker 2: lot of people they collect these photos with these different
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Speaker 2: famous people. Again, it's a big part of how these
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Speaker 2: conventions work, built into the business model of it. So
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Speaker 2: we go into a room with stan Lee. Stan Lee
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Speaker 2: and I want to be clear the way this business
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Speaker 2: is all set up, This is not the convention itself organized.
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Speaker 2: This isn't dragon Con organizing this scenario. There's a business
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Speaker 2: model in place where there are people that are coordinating
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Speaker 2: these photos, the photos getting printed, people being able to
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Speaker 2: take the photos with them. Dragon Con is the event,
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Speaker 2: the business side of the photos and things. That's different. Okay,
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Speaker 2: it's different people that are organizing and running these photos.
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Speaker 2: So we go into the room with Stanley and stan
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Speaker 2: Lee is you know he was. He was awake, he
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Speaker 2: seemed to sort of barely be awake. He seemed very tired,
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Speaker 2: He wasn't talkative, and all we did really was stand
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Speaker 2: next to him and they took photo and then we
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Speaker 2: moved on. That was it, no conversation, nothing else, and
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Speaker 2: we left and we thought, oh my gosh, that was
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Speaker 2: stan Lee. Then the stories of elder abuse came out,
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Speaker 2: and there were accusations that there were people in his
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Speaker 2: life that were forcing him to do these things and
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Speaker 2: making money off of him. And again, I don't know
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Speaker 2: the story behind all of that, other than to tell
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Speaker 2: you that, yes, there were people that were in his
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Speaker 2: life that said that there were other people in his
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Speaker 2: life that were definitely taking advantage of him. Videos circulating
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Speaker 2: online of him saying are we done? Can I stop,
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Speaker 2: Do I still need to do this? What's the status
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Speaker 2: of all this? Why are we still still taking photos?
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Speaker 2: And those certainly didn't look great. But again, I can't
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Speaker 2: prosecute this case or defend this case one way or
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Speaker 2: the other. I can just tell you my experience with Stanley.
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Speaker 2: He didn't seem to be fully aware of what was
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Speaker 2: going on when we were there.
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Speaker 3: Maybe he was, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: So now we're hearing reports of all these stories that
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Speaker 2: are coming out of the White House from the previous administration,
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Speaker 2: where we had a president of the United States who
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Speaker 2: times didn't know where he was, didn't know what was
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Speaker 2: going on, didn't know how to move around, didn't know
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Speaker 2: he needed to be walk from one point of the
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Speaker 2: stage or the other. There were times where he started
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Speaker 2: to answer questions. The Easter Bunny had to step in,
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Speaker 2: and obviously with someone who was undercover, whose job and
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Speaker 2: responsibility it was to make sure that he did not
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Speaker 2: answer whatever questions that were going to be asked in
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Speaker 2: those scenarios. So then the auto pen accusations come in
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Speaker 2: and all these stories about someone using an autopen a
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Speaker 2: digital signature to sign documents on his behalf. Then we
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Speaker 2: hear stories from a speaker of the House where he
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Speaker 2: said that he talked with the President who had signed
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Speaker 2: a document that was limiting some type of fossil fuel.
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Speaker 2: I guess it was a natural gas or something coming
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Speaker 2: out of his home state of Louisiana. And the President said,
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Speaker 2: I didn't sign anything about that, and he said, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you did, and he explained it and he said no, no,
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Speaker 2: I signed something that was about doing research and studying that.
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Speaker 2: And he said no, it was to restrict it. And
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Speaker 2: he said, well, that's not what they told me.
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Speaker 3: It was, So I guess that.
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Speaker 2: Now we also have this story about him finding out
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Speaker 2: the former President Biden finding out that he has prostate
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Speaker 2: cancer and realizing that it's possible at least that they
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Speaker 2: knew that he had it and weren't going to tell us.
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Speaker 2: It is possible that they didn't know and that they
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Speaker 2: hadn't been tested because he was too senior for the testing.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's been some of that. It's strange that
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Speaker 2: a president of the United States wouldn't be tested for
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Speaker 2: everything that they could be tested for.
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Speaker 3: I think that's odd.
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Speaker 2: He's not just a regular citizen and they say, oh, well,
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Speaker 2: he's pasted seventy five, he doesn't need to do these
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Speaker 2: tests anymore. That seems like a bit of a stretch.
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Speaker 2: That seems strange, But it's possible that that's where the
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Speaker 2: thinking was or that's what was going on.
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Speaker 3: But my point is, if they knew that.
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Speaker 2: He had prostate cancer, it didn't want to tell us,
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Speaker 2: and we're holding onto that information until he potentially got
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Speaker 2: reelected and served a couple of years of his term
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Speaker 2: and was able to hand the presidency off to potentially
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Speaker 2: another person who was very willing or maybe even incapable
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Speaker 2: of themselves of knowing what was going on around them,
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Speaker 2: but maybe at the very least willing to just have
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Speaker 2: the official title and let things happen behind the scenes
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Speaker 2: with auto pen But I guess my question is, are
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Speaker 2: we ever going to get to the point where we
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Speaker 2: start asking the question as a country it was this
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Speaker 2: a case of elder abuse in the White House with
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Speaker 2: the President of the United States? I mean, is it
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Speaker 2: a reach to ask the question? At least I can't
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Speaker 2: make the accusation, but I can tell you that if.
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Speaker 3: They're the stories and reports.
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Speaker 2: They say that there were people in the White House
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Speaker 2: who referred to the president as our zombie in chief.
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Speaker 2: If that was really how they felt about him, I
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Speaker 2: think that's a classic definition of elder abuse, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: If he was going to events and doing things as
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Speaker 2: the quote unquote president while they were behind the scenes
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Speaker 2: doing whatever they wanted to do in his name. Yes,
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Speaker 2: it's not quite Stanley sitting in a chair taking photos,
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Speaker 2: but it's not that far off if they're auto penning.
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Speaker 3: His signature.
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Speaker 2: On pardons on a lot of pardons at the last minute,
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Speaker 2: when clearly he wasn't even there because he was in
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Speaker 2: the middle of the next president taking over and he
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Speaker 2: was out ready to do speeches and give speeches. So yes,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like a drastic leap to get to
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Speaker 2: elder abuse, does it. I want to be clear too,
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Speaker 2: there were a lot of conventions stan Lee.
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Speaker 3: Was going to and taking photos with people.
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Speaker 2: I give Dragon con as an example only because that's
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Speaker 2: the convention I was at when I met him. That
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Speaker 2: was the convention where I had the first hand experience
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Speaker 2: with it. But he was being taken to a lot
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Speaker 2: of conventions, and at least that's one of the accusations
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Speaker 2: when it comes to the elder abuse. So presidential l abuse,
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Speaker 2: is it possible. I think it is. I spent a
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Speaker 2: lot of the weekend thinking about it, and I'm wondering
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Speaker 2: if we're ever going to get to a point where
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Speaker 2: some of those people could possibly be investigated for that.
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Speaker 3: Out New York and Dallas.
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Speaker 2: It seems like a weird like I would think LA
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Speaker 2: would be eating like tofoo dogs or something that doesn't
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Speaker 2: quite seem right, does it. Chicago was fourth, Boston, Houston, Philadelphia, Miami, Phoenix,
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Speaker 2: and Washington, d c. Round out the top ten for
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Speaker 2: cities and how many hot dogs they eat. It's not
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Speaker 2: a coincidence. They're all large cities, and I think a
21:48
Speaker 2: lot of them are very heavy sports towns. On top
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Speaker 2: of that, I think that kind of goes together, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: About fifty eight percent of Americans grilled over the weekend,
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Speaker 2: and they say the weekend sales for meat were.
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Speaker 3: About two billion dollars.
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Speaker 2: According to a yug Of survey, seventy eight percent of
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Speaker 2: Americans say they prefer meat based burgers. Eight percent of
22:14
Speaker 2: those surveys said they didn't like burgers at all. When
22:16
Speaker 2: it comes to how people liked them cooked, survey found
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Speaker 2: forty percent prefer their burgers well done. Yes, that makes
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Speaker 2: the most sense. When it comes to burgers, at least
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Speaker 2: twenty percent like them cooked medium well, seventeen medium, twelve
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Speaker 2: percent medium rare, two percent who eat hamburger rare.
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Speaker 3: That's it's a wild thought to me.
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Speaker 2: Women more likely to prefer burgers well done compared to men,
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Speaker 2: So that seems right. And as far as toppings go, yes,
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Speaker 2: over the weekend, a lot of people put cheese on
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Speaker 2: their burgers and all the traditional stuff. I'm looking down
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Speaker 2: the list, maybe a little bit non traditional on this list.
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Speaker 2: When you get past all of the you know it, lettuce,
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Speaker 2: tomatoes and things, pickles, mustard, ketchup, you get down to mushrooms.
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Speaker 2: And that's not crazy. It is for me, I'm allergic
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Speaker 2: to mushrooms, but it's not a crazy thing to put
23:16
Speaker 2: on a burger. People that put fries on a burger. Yeah,
23:19
Speaker 2: I got it avocado, Sure, why not? I do like
23:23
Speaker 2: an egg on a burger. And then we started getting
23:26
Speaker 2: out into things like ranch dressing in Thousand Island. That's
23:30
Speaker 2: a little different, but you know, pretty standard kind of
23:34
Speaker 2: things that you put on a burger. I had a
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Speaker 2: great burger over the weekend. My buddy Mark and his
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Speaker 2: wife Katie and family had us over for grilling and
23:45
Speaker 2: swimming and we had a good time and company.
23:48
Speaker 3: That's a good company. And I'm holding a.
23:50
Speaker 2: Three D printed Millennium falcon that Andy, their son, printed
23:56
Speaker 2: for me while we were there, like he started it
23:59
Speaker 2: to show us demonstrate, and then he gave it to
24:01
Speaker 2: me and I've got it here on my desk right
24:03
Speaker 2: next to the microphone. So I appreciate the company and
24:07
Speaker 2: the hospitality and the swim and the food and and
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Speaker 2: my my new little Millennium falcon. It's I say little,
24:15
Speaker 2: it's it's about the size of my cell phone. It's
24:18
Speaker 2: not tiny, but anyway, I appreciate that. And that's always
24:21
Speaker 2: fun hanging out with Andy and Mikey one Chip, their
24:26
Speaker 2: other son, and it's just you know, a great hanging,
24:29
Speaker 2: great conversation with.
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Speaker 3: All of them.
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Speaker 2: Second highest period for beer sales in America happened this
24:37
Speaker 2: past weekend, with Independence Day being at the top of
24:41
Speaker 2: the list and Labor Day being third. So you think
24:46
Speaker 2: we like to drink beer in the summer, that that
24:49
Speaker 2: certainly fits.
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Speaker 3: It's the two bookends.
24:53
Speaker 2: For the unofficial start of summer, and then of course
24:55
Speaker 2: Independence Day. So and a lot of racing happened over
25:01
Speaker 2: the weekend. And I told you that they had the
25:05
Speaker 2: Weienie five hundred or whatever it was called, which was
25:08
Speaker 2: the Wienermobile race from the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile, and they
25:17
Speaker 2: raced several of those at the Indy five hundred track.
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Speaker 3: And I learned I didn't know.
25:25
Speaker 2: This, that there was actually a Columbus High School graduate
25:30
Speaker 2: who was apparently driving one of those wienermobiles. So that's
25:34
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool in it's own right, isn't it. I
25:38
Speaker 2: guess the slaw Dog was the name of the car
25:41
Speaker 2: that won the race.
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Speaker 3: So that's pretty good stuff there. All right.
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Speaker 2: That'll do it for this Tuesday edition of the show.
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