Latest / Sports Exchange / A Tribute to Steve McMichael
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- 0:22Speaker 1: Good eeting everybody. We'll welcome to another edition of the
- 0:24Speaker 1: Sports Exchange. My name is Scott Morgan, enough motorc City,
- 0:27Speaker 1: mad Mouth, glad to be with have everybody with us tonight.
- 0:30Speaker 1: J B Ellis will be contributing as he sent us
- 0:34Speaker 1: his comments of what's going on. I mean, while I
- 0:37Speaker 1: want to welcome the crew, and then we're going to
- 0:38Speaker 1: start off with some tough news, but it gets a
- 0:41Speaker 1: little bit better. We're gonna lead off with Jacob Christner.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, Jacob, what's up?
- 0:47Speaker 2: How you doing?
- 0:48Speaker 1: And we're doing all right? George Ichor, welcome back.
- 0:52Speaker 3: Hey, good to see you guys again. And Lady.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Mike Santos is on here for the Wednesday night show
- 0:58Speaker 1: for the first time. He'll be back on next Wednesday
- 1:00Speaker 1: night as well. Did have Mike on our Hockey Expert,
- 1:03Speaker 1: And of course I know Mike has a lot of
- 1:05Speaker 1: other things they can talk about, So next week's show
- 1:08Speaker 1: we'll probably incorporate a little bit more variety in addition
- 1:10Speaker 1: to what's Thanks for being with us, Mike.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, thanks. Got any anything that has to do
- 1:15Speaker 4: with punching or wrestling or beating people up?
- 1:20Speaker 1: I'm in oh boy, that's what I like there.
- 1:24Speaker 5: At the end of this show, you're gonna want to
- 1:25Speaker 5: do more of it, really.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Right, and Mike Waker joins us, maybe everyone else going
- 1:35Speaker 1: and last but not Lea's candies, getting the taste of
- 1:37Speaker 1: the frozen found and a lot more.
- 1:40Speaker 6: Great to be here, Great to talk sports with you,
- 1:43Speaker 6: fine gentlemen.
- 1:45Speaker 1: All right, Well, unfortunately breaking news occurred just before we
- 1:49Speaker 1: went on air. And it's tough to talk about this one,
- 1:53Speaker 1: but to see what Michael, the legendary Chicago Bear died
- 1:56Speaker 1: at the age of sixty seven to the als I
- 2:00Speaker 1: in this battle actually was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic
- 2:03Speaker 1: in twenty twenty outter to get other opinions, and was
- 2:05Speaker 1: officially diagnosed the second one and twenty twenty one. This
- 2:10Speaker 1: is tough. It really is a guy, as Jacob mentioned
- 2:14Speaker 1: in our early chat, was about two to eighty five
- 2:17Speaker 1: when he was diagnosed and ended up declining to a
- 2:20Speaker 1: point where it probably reached about one twenty if I
- 2:22Speaker 1: heard collectly. But als is brutal. It just simply is.
- 2:28Speaker 1: And what else can you say? And I do want
- 2:32Speaker 1: to go ahead and preface something that George Hollis mentioned
- 2:36Speaker 1: and then I'll turn it over to Jacob because this
- 2:39Speaker 1: is very, very very important because he was originally attracted
- 2:43Speaker 1: by the New England Patriots and he had some traits
- 2:48Speaker 1: that the Patriots didn't really like. In fact, I'll say
- 2:52Speaker 1: that some of these traits, like I recall walking into
- 2:56Speaker 1: founder of George Allis office, it was like walking into
- 2:59Speaker 1: a nineteen twenty gangster movie. When he was signing Kagy
- 3:03Speaker 1: when he said when he signed the stuff the pop
- 3:06Speaker 1: up fair made it clear. You know what he said
- 3:08Speaker 1: to me, Micmichael said, I've heard what kind of a
- 3:11Speaker 1: dirty rat you are? In practice? Don't change Steve. He
- 3:15Speaker 1: didn't like him be doing, but boy, he was a
- 3:17Speaker 1: hate in Chicago. Jacob, you're from that area, Please elaborate big.
- 3:21Speaker 7: Bears fan the last forty years. I stopped mourning McMichael
- 3:29Speaker 7: a long time ago, like the minute he was diagnosed
- 3:32Speaker 7: with als. It is a devastating, ridiculous. The guy lived
- 3:38Speaker 7: on the as dusty roads as saying live at the
- 3:40Speaker 7: end of the he did all the stories.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Everything.
- 3:47Speaker 5: You want to listen to a Rick Flair story, just
- 3:49Speaker 5: talk about McMichael.
- 3:50Speaker 7: He can go off for hours, going two hundred miles
- 3:53Speaker 7: prior down a highway while having an a case of beer.
- 3:57Speaker 7: You hear it all, I mean, jumping, like junking, police steals,
- 4:02Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff. There's a billion of them.
- 4:05Speaker 7: There's a billion of them. He lived life on the
- 4:08Speaker 7: end of a lightning bolt. The only thing I ever
- 4:11Speaker 7: said when I heard he had als was just do
- 4:14Speaker 7: it quick, let him go to sleep. I stopped mourning,
- 4:19Speaker 7: and I started getting angry because everybody keep coming in
- 4:23Speaker 7: putting pictures of this guy who was a beast, a hass,
- 4:28Speaker 7: a monster and just wasted away, and we kept having
- 4:32Speaker 7: to see it and kept him to see And I
- 4:35Speaker 7: started getting angry at that, and I did I mean,
- 4:37Speaker 7: I just started racing the pictures. Everything just kind of
- 4:40Speaker 7: scrolling by. I don't want to see McMichael like that.
- 4:43Speaker 7: You want to remember the guy who was terrible at wrestling,
- 4:46Speaker 7: but he was part of this four Horsemen. You want
- 4:48Speaker 7: to remember him as the Chicago Bears, one of the
- 4:50Speaker 7: leaders of that defense. You want to remember that guy
- 4:55Speaker 7: who was part of that defense for ten years and
- 5:00Speaker 7: seven and six of them they were top five, two
- 5:03Speaker 7: of them they were first.
- 5:06Speaker 5: You want to remember that. You don't want to.
- 5:08Speaker 7: See people waste away. And he ended up getting that.
- 5:12Speaker 7: I can't believe they wanted to keep him around that
- 5:15Speaker 7: long to prop him up. Have Dan Hampton doing this
- 5:19Speaker 7: to take a picture while he's wasted away to bones.
- 5:24Speaker 7: So there's my that's I am. There's my deal with that.
- 5:28Speaker 5: I had a problem. I stopped the morning all time ago.
- 5:30Speaker 5: But I can say this with him. He was he
- 5:34Speaker 5: lived an unbelieve forget the last five years. He lived
- 5:37Speaker 5: an unbelievable life. Unbelievable. We can all wish for that,
- 5:43Speaker 5: we just don't wish how it ended.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Okay, let me trust somebody to chatter real quickly. Put
- 5:49Speaker 1: it out there, Candy, josh Odor rope being is this
- 5:52Speaker 1: a selfware tribune? I expect a lot of panthers like
- 5:55Speaker 1: you talking. I wouldn't say a lot, but it's definitely
- 5:57Speaker 1: be mentioned as the show goes on. We still have
- 6:00Speaker 1: of other hockey topics we want to get to, but
- 6:02Speaker 1: mark my word, we will not be knowing the panthers.
- 6:04Speaker 1: They will be on as the show goes on. So
- 6:07Speaker 1: hang in there, Joshua. All right, George, were her talks
- 6:11Speaker 1: about the legacy of Steve MacMichael.
- 6:15Speaker 8: Well, yeah, four years so he was announced he had
- 6:20Speaker 8: als in uh excuse me in twenty twenty one, and
- 6:25Speaker 8: then he died almost four years to the day.
- 6:28Speaker 3: Very sad.
- 6:29Speaker 8: It's a very said and like you said, Scott, a
- 6:31Speaker 8: very very tough disease to suffer through. I'm sure it's
- 6:37Speaker 8: it's it's a blessing for his family that he's moving on,
- 6:41Speaker 8: but it's always hard. I mean, you know, he won
- 6:43Speaker 8: the Super Bowl with the Bears, as you mentioned, two
- 6:46Speaker 8: time All Pro, two times to Bowl Football Hall of
- 6:51Speaker 8: Fame Class of twenty four, and then it was a
- 6:55Speaker 8: professional wrestling you know that he that he did and
- 6:59Speaker 8: tried doing some announcing and did a little bit of.
- 7:01Speaker 3: That too with wrestling.
- 7:03Speaker 8: But yeah, he was a real really he epitomized those
- 7:06Speaker 8: Bears teams, tough to his nail, very difficult to you're
- 7:14Speaker 8: the opposition trying to get around these guys on the Bears.
- 7:18Speaker 3: We all know the great years the Bears have had.
- 7:21Speaker 3: And it's really sad.
- 7:23Speaker 8: And again I want to send my support and sympathy
- 7:27Speaker 8: to all his fans and and YouTube Jacob and you
- 7:30Speaker 8: know all the fans out there.
- 7:32Speaker 7: Well, I grew up with it, thank you. I grew
- 7:35Speaker 7: up with that was the team I grew up with.
- 7:37Speaker 7: Eighty four, So then you get one year late and
- 7:39Speaker 7: get everything like that. People wonder why become a Bears fan,
- 7:43Speaker 7: considering all the past years have been miserable. But yeah,
- 7:49Speaker 7: I grew up and if they would have been the
- 7:51Speaker 7: same as we remember from the seventies and dons like that,
- 7:53Speaker 7: I probably would have been Steelers fan because my brother
- 7:55Speaker 7: had a Steelers coach, so I probably, But the Bears
- 7:58Speaker 7: were just that good and the Steelers would not very good.
- 8:01Speaker 7: So it ended up being Chicago. But if it wasn't
- 8:04Speaker 7: for the mussas of the Midway, weren't for Dicka went
- 8:07Speaker 7: for anything, the Bears would be the worst team in
- 8:08Speaker 7: the last sixty years. I don't want to hear anything about,
- 8:12Speaker 7: oh they were overrated, all that crap. Takes a lot
- 8:14Speaker 7: to win the playoffs and done everything, and they should
- 8:16Speaker 7: have had more decisions made. Who cares, But that was
- 8:19Speaker 7: those were special teams.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we'll turn over to Mike Santos.
- 8:25Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I didn't grow up in Chicago, but
- 8:28Speaker 4: I certainly I was a fan of that team.
- 8:34Speaker 1: You know, the era.
- 8:37Speaker 9: Was crazy.
- 8:40Speaker 4: I mean the eighties, go back into the seventies. The
- 8:44Speaker 4: teams that were successful had these guys that, like Jacob said,
- 8:50Speaker 4: lived on the edge, not just played on the edge,
- 8:53Speaker 4: but lived on the edge. I think of the Raiders
- 8:55Speaker 4: as a comparable team, you know, before the Bears in
- 8:59Speaker 4: the seventies, you know, whether it was you know, Ted
- 9:04Speaker 4: Hendricks or Lyle Alzado who died tragically in cancer, right,
- 9:13Speaker 4: and then I think of this Bears team and the
- 9:16Speaker 4: tragedy that they've had, you know, with this, but even beforehand,
- 9:22Speaker 4: with Walter Payton, I think we remember these these guys
- 9:30Speaker 4: more because they were so dare i say, full of
- 9:34Speaker 4: life off the field as well as on the field.
- 9:37Speaker 4: And so when something that happens to these guys, you.
- 9:42Speaker 9: You are shocked because they.
- 9:45Speaker 4: Because of their antics off the field, the things they
- 9:48Speaker 4: were involved in, you really start to feel that they're invincible.
- 9:52Speaker 4: And then you realize, whether it's cancer that's struck down
- 9:55Speaker 4: al Zado or now the Als with McMichael, that you
- 10:01Speaker 4: know in the end, they're they're they're just like us.
- 10:04Speaker 7: You know.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, Steve Gleason is fighting the battle
- 10:10Speaker 1: real well for New Orleans. Thankfully he's alive. We wanted
- 10:13Speaker 1: to sit here and talk about some tragedies in Chicago,
- 10:16Speaker 1: Bryan Picklow, certainly one that went way too soon. We
- 10:18Speaker 1: won't get into that. A lot to crowd that you
- 10:21Speaker 1: talked about story, well, I want to get too for
- 10:25Speaker 1: our topic. We have a lot to cover for sure,
- 10:27Speaker 1: Mike Whittaker. Some thoughts about mister.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Honestly, I can say I don't wasn't as familiar with
- 10:38Speaker 2: his career because I didn't really start following football growing up.
- 10:44Speaker 2: But uh, I mean obviously I do now, but not
- 10:47Speaker 2: as much when I was a kid. But yeah, just
- 10:50Speaker 2: a very tough situation.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Uh.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I've known people who have passed away from a LUs,
- 10:55Speaker 2: and its uh kind of like you mentioned, it is
- 10:58Speaker 2: so difficult kind of seeing the completely the opposite from
- 11:04Speaker 2: the person that you once knew, and you know, their
- 11:07Speaker 2: bodies literally wasting away. And it's just a very very
- 11:10Speaker 2: tough situation. And certainly condolences to his family and friends,
- 11:15Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully hopefully there can be more progression
- 11:19Speaker 2: with helping to fight the fight the disease into eventually
- 11:25Speaker 2: reduce the reduce the number of people who have it,
- 11:27Speaker 2: and and so we don't have to continuously see its
- 11:33Speaker 2: see things like that.
- 11:34Speaker 1: So I will turn over to Candy Flash JB. She
- 11:39Speaker 1: wears both hats tonight, Goad, Candy.
- 11:41Speaker 6: I'm gonna start with me first. As a Packer fan, obviously,
- 11:46Speaker 6: I was never happy when McMichael played against us. With
- 11:51Speaker 6: the Bears, he had eight sacks during the eighty five season,
- 11:55Speaker 6: and he added another during the Super super Bowl win.
- 11:59Speaker 6: He finished his career with ninety five sacks. He had
- 12:03Speaker 6: eight hundred and forty two career tackles, thirteen forced fumbles,
- 12:07Speaker 6: seventeen fumble recoveries, two interceptions, and three recorded safeties in
- 12:13Speaker 6: two hundred and thirteen games. His ninety two and a
- 12:17Speaker 6: half sacks with the Bears ranks second in team history
- 12:23Speaker 6: to Dent. One of the things that sticks out to
- 12:27Speaker 6: my mind is I remember head coach Mike Ditka said
- 12:32Speaker 6: McMichael was the toughest player that he ever coached. To
- 12:38Speaker 6: see him once he got als and to see all
- 12:43Speaker 6: the pictures, because we've all seen pictures of him, and
- 12:46Speaker 6: what that disease does to somebody is disheartening. I mean,
- 12:51Speaker 6: it's sad. It's sad to see somebody like that.
- 12:55Speaker 7: Well, one thing, Candy, I wanted to say this real
- 12:57Speaker 7: fast too. No way in heck the way that the
- 13:00Speaker 7: condition that Mike Dick is in right now. No way
- 13:02Speaker 7: he would have ever thought he's gonna have to go
- 13:03Speaker 7: to another funeral because he's close. But there's this, and
- 13:08Speaker 7: I'm like, there's to me in life. There's no business
- 13:13Speaker 7: of ever ever just lingering like this. It's why I
- 13:16Speaker 7: don't want to talk about Steve Gleason much either, because
- 13:18Speaker 7: it's no one should be able to linger like that
- 13:21Speaker 7: is ridiculous.
- 13:23Speaker 6: But as much as I'm gonna say, but as much
- 13:25Speaker 6: as I disliked seeing him against my team, I also
- 13:30Speaker 6: respect how well of a player he was on the
- 13:35Speaker 6: field and how much his presence dominated the game. So
- 13:41Speaker 6: those are my thoughts. No, I'm gonna transition and put
- 13:44Speaker 6: my JB hat on.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Look good luck, he said.
- 13:50Speaker 6: Ha gotten to know Missy the wife, and seeing what
- 13:54Speaker 6: she was like, she could he could sense that she
- 13:56Speaker 6: was always full of life. Michael was such a big
- 14:01Speaker 6: part of the eighty five Bears, of those Bears teams
- 14:04Speaker 6: that were really good in the mid eighties. He lived
- 14:06Speaker 6: his life to the fullest and to see him in
- 14:09Speaker 6: such a debilitating state was such a hard thing to see,
- 14:14Speaker 6: and He's sure for his family it was. He's at
- 14:17Speaker 6: peace now and not struggling anymore. But it's still hard
- 14:21Speaker 6: to imagine someone so strong suffering the way he did.
- 14:25Speaker 6: The amount of support he had from his fans was amazing,
- 14:29Speaker 6: from Chicago and the NFL.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Okay, what I want to do right now is last
- 14:37Speaker 1: week I didn't have the American dollars for the Alexander
- 14:41Speaker 1: Barkov find so I have a responsibility to put those
- 14:44Speaker 1: numbers out there because it was on my mind when
- 14:46Speaker 1: we signed out. I'm only going to put it out there,
- 14:49Speaker 1: and nobody asked the comment. All I know is that's
- 14:51Speaker 1: a pretty expensive speeding ticket. So following up with it,
- 14:55Speaker 1: then he had a speeding ticket that in euro dollars
- 14:58Speaker 1: and forty six thousand, six seventy five dollars and an
- 15:01Speaker 1: American currency it's fifty four thousand US dollars.
- 15:07Speaker 2: So there you have it.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Now we have the American conversion that bothered me so
- 15:11Speaker 1: much I had to put it on there after what
- 15:14Speaker 1: happened to JB. He's not here tonight, but he's sending
- 15:16Speaker 1: us his answers. He should be back back Wednesday, all right,
- 15:19Speaker 1: So I just wanted to get that off. I check
- 15:21Speaker 1: fifty four grand worth speeding ticket I couldn't even do
- 15:25Speaker 1: that if I tried, I don't have it. I wouldn't
- 15:27Speaker 1: be bothered to try with my medical conditions. That's okay.
- 15:31Speaker 1: I got my pilot, and I get behind the wheel
- 15:33Speaker 1: when I get the iss to do it. We'll get
- 15:35Speaker 1: that out of the way. Now. I want to congratulate
- 15:38Speaker 1: my friend Kenny Albert, who landed the New York Rangers
- 15:41Speaker 1: full time play by played job. And as I'll say,
- 15:46Speaker 1: I had Kenny one of my shows before, and we've
- 15:50Speaker 1: been friends for a long time, and first thing he
- 15:52Speaker 1: said to me is thank you very much for it,
- 15:54Speaker 1: and I'm just and we had we exchanged text messages
- 15:58Speaker 1: for a three or four times. So Mike, obviously, if
- 16:01Speaker 1: anybody knows about Kenny Albert, what are your thoughts about
- 16:04Speaker 1: Kenny Albert replacing the legendary Sam Rose in Yeah.
- 16:07Speaker 9: Well, it's I think it's natural.
- 16:10Speaker 4: I've known Kenny since we were in our early twenties,
- 16:14Speaker 4: and obviously from a great broadcasting family, and as good
- 16:21Speaker 4: as anybody in that family, not the best of the family,
- 16:24Speaker 4: and probably better known for his work with the NFL,
- 16:30Speaker 4: particularly in the last twenty years of the NFL Box.
- 16:34Speaker 4: But ultimately I know him personally and his first love
- 16:38Speaker 4: is hockey, and his first love in hockey. So happy
- 16:45Speaker 4: for him because if there's one job that he would want,
- 16:49Speaker 4: it would be this one.
- 16:50Speaker 10: And I can tell you I don't want to say
- 16:53Speaker 10: this for him, but I could tell you that if
- 16:56Speaker 10: he had to give up all of his other broadcasting
- 16:58Speaker 10: gigs to cover the Rangers, like take saying spot, this
- 17:02Speaker 10: is this is what it's all about for him, and
- 17:05Speaker 10: this is the this is the cherry on top of
- 17:07Speaker 10: the Sunday for Yeah.
- 17:08Speaker 1: I actually met him over at the NHL All Star
- 17:11Speaker 1: Game in Tampa and Amili Arena. What a super nice guy.
- 17:14Speaker 1: We reconnect a National Sports Media Association. We exchange books,
- 17:17Speaker 1: and then he came on my show, The Motor City
- 17:19Speaker 1: mad Mouth. You won't ask for a better guy. I
- 17:21Speaker 1: have a cell phone number. We exchanged sex messages every
- 17:24Speaker 1: once in a while. If there's anybody who deserves that
- 17:26Speaker 1: Rangers gig, any good things he has coming for him,
- 17:29Speaker 1: as Kenny Albert, so God bless Kenny. I love you.
- 17:32Speaker 1: I appreciate you everything you've done for me. I know
- 17:34Speaker 1: you're going to do really really well with the Rangers. Okay,
- 17:37Speaker 1: but that said Mike Whittaker, What do you know about
- 17:39Speaker 1: Kenny Albert.
- 17:41Speaker 2: He's definitely one of my favorite announcers. I actually got
- 17:45Speaker 2: to speak to him, not this season, but last season
- 17:47Speaker 2: when he did a nationally televised game for the Red Wings,
- 17:51Speaker 2: just chatting with him for about thirty seconds, and he
- 17:53Speaker 2: was incredibly nice and gracious. I you know, tell him,
- 17:56Speaker 2: I've always enjoyed his commentating, and you know, I think,
- 18:00Speaker 2: like I said, I think he's one of the better
- 18:01Speaker 2: ones out there. And it's certainly gonna be tough to to,
- 18:05Speaker 2: you know, fill the shoes of a legend like Sam
- 18:07Speaker 2: Rosean in New York. But if anybody can do it,
- 18:10Speaker 2: I know that Kenny can. And we'll see if maybe
- 18:14Speaker 2: he can bring some some new luck to the Rangers
- 18:17Speaker 2: starting next season, because they definitely need it after the
- 18:19Speaker 2: year they had this year.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Great Jacob, When you think.
- 18:24Speaker 7: Of the Kenny Albert, you think of him alone in
- 18:27Speaker 7: a certain way because it's what you've seen.
- 18:29Speaker 5: Maybe it's the differences. Let me tell you this, it
- 18:32Speaker 5: feels like it does not feel like it's.
- 18:35Speaker 7: The broadcasting family. You can say what I'm saying with this,
- 18:38Speaker 7: I mean Mike, it does Mike and Mike, Yes, I mean,
- 18:42Speaker 7: not the most famous ones, but you get the you
- 18:45Speaker 7: get the feeling on something like this that it's like
- 18:49Speaker 7: you had al Albert, Kenny, Albert, Marv, and I'm like,
- 18:52Speaker 7: everything feels so different. Every style feels different, their personalities
- 18:57Speaker 7: feel different. I mean, it's a Marv, the oldest one, dad,
- 19:03Speaker 7: his dad. I don't thinking because that's what I was thinking.
- 19:07Speaker 7: I'm like, they couldn't possibly because of that thing, because
- 19:10Speaker 7: it was such a difference in age.
- 19:13Speaker 5: But everybody's personalities are so different. Everything's mind. When you
- 19:17Speaker 5: listen to them, you can't tell, like.
- 19:19Speaker 7: You if you get like if you get certain coaching
- 19:22Speaker 7: things with brothers, little brother, big brother, you can see
- 19:25Speaker 7: like the Ryots. I'm just saying for I'm not saying
- 19:27Speaker 7: for announcing. I'm saying for coaching, you can tell. I
- 19:31Speaker 7: can't tell anything with the Alberts. And remember I thought
- 19:35Speaker 7: they were all brothers. I didn't realize it was that why,
- 19:40Speaker 7: So that's just telling you something about this. It's like
- 19:43Speaker 7: just as a family alone, they're all different. And I
- 19:45Speaker 7: haven't seen al Albert years, but it's a great pickup,
- 19:50Speaker 7: wonderful pickup. It's like he's a wonderfully tremendous announcer.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Dude.
- 19:55Speaker 5: When he wants to do anything he can do, and
- 19:57Speaker 5: I personally think you.
- 19:58Speaker 7: Can give him just like I was talking about with me,
- 20:00Speaker 7: I believe you can give him a minute to spare
- 20:02Speaker 7: and he'd get it, just because he is that good.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Fact.
- 20:05Speaker 1: The Matterson onely the nice of people on the planet.
- 20:07Speaker 1: He's very down in earth, level headed, and he knows
- 20:10Speaker 1: his stuff really well. George here in the broadcasting business
- 20:12Speaker 1: like I am, and talks about Kenny Albert.
- 20:15Speaker 8: I'm very very happy for him, Scott. He is a
- 20:19Speaker 8: great guy and obviously has been around for a good
- 20:22Speaker 8: number of years doing hockey in addition to the other sports.
- 20:26Speaker 8: It says here that his parents gave him a tape
- 20:30Speaker 8: recorder for his fifth birthday to practice his broadcasting. That's
- 20:34Speaker 8: how far back down. He's fifty seven now, So for
- 20:37Speaker 8: fifty two years this man has said play by play
- 20:41Speaker 8: and color commentary and interviews and all the other great
- 20:45Speaker 8: things he's done.
- 20:46Speaker 3: You know, the Olympic Games he's covered.
- 20:49Speaker 8: You know, when I think about broadcasters, I think about
- 20:51Speaker 8: those that are most versatile, and certainly he wears that
- 20:54Speaker 8: crown very well. I mean, you talk about hockey but
- 20:57Speaker 8: he's also as we mentioned on the NFL, well, he's
- 21:00Speaker 8: done Major League Baseball on Fox. He's done the Washington Nationals.
- 21:05Speaker 8: You can just go down the line, you know, college
- 21:07Speaker 8: bowl games and every other sport. So he's a great guy.
- 21:12Speaker 8: I understand. I've never had the opportunity to meet him,
- 21:15Speaker 8: but through your interview Scott, that you did with him,
- 21:18Speaker 8: and for things that I know our friend Greg Annis
- 21:21Speaker 8: has told me about Kenny Albert. What a great guy
- 21:24Speaker 8: and so well deserving of that honor to take over
- 21:26Speaker 8: for such a legend like Sam Rose.
- 21:28Speaker 1: And yeah, okay, Candy and JB.
- 21:35Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go as Candy first. So kudos to Kenny.
- 21:40Speaker 6: I got to listen and talk to him when you
- 21:42Speaker 6: did your broadcast with him, Scott, and actually I was
- 21:45Speaker 6: there when you met him over at in Tampa. He
- 21:50Speaker 6: is one of the only sportscasters who currently does play
- 21:53Speaker 6: by play for all four major sports. He did four
- 22:00Speaker 6: sports in four days. On October twenty fifth of two
- 22:03Speaker 6: thousand and nine, he called play by play for the
- 22:06Speaker 6: Minnesota Vikings versus the Steelers NFL game for Fox. Then
- 22:11Speaker 6: he hosted the New York Yankees' Locker Room celebration after
- 22:13Speaker 6: clinching the American League Championship Series that night. The following night,
- 22:18Speaker 6: he broadcast a Rangers game on radio, and on October
- 22:21Speaker 6: twenty eight, he called play by play for the New
- 22:23Speaker 6: York Knicks season opener on MSG network. So he's the
- 22:29Speaker 6: one thing I remember, besides the stories that he told
- 22:32Speaker 6: on your show, Scott, was how prepared he is and
- 22:37Speaker 6: to think about like for most of us, we're really
- 22:40Speaker 6: good in one sport and here he can do all
- 22:43Speaker 6: of them. And he talks very knowledgeable and yes, I
- 22:46Speaker 6: know they have resources now and you can pull up things,
- 22:49Speaker 6: but he knows it. Like I was just very impressed,
- 22:54Speaker 6: and yet how down to earth and how he talked
- 22:56Speaker 6: about his dad and like the tape recorder and you
- 23:00Speaker 6: know how he just loves what he does and it
- 23:04Speaker 6: comes through and it shows. So that was the Candy version.
- 23:08Speaker 6: Now the JB great hire and he knows the area.
- 23:13Speaker 5: Well.
- 23:13Speaker 6: Nice to have Albert back at the garden full time.
- 23:17Speaker 1: There you go, Now you have it. Now we want
- 23:21Speaker 1: to congratulate, send our congratulations the Western Michigan Broncos as
- 23:26Speaker 1: they defeated Boston University in the NCAA Championship game capturing
- 23:29Speaker 1: the program first national title somewhere and having former player
- 23:33Speaker 1: John Saunders must be celebrating. The Broncos beat Denver that
- 23:37Speaker 1: Thursday night, and they finished the season thirty four to
- 23:40Speaker 1: seven and one, Mike, you can lead off with this one.
- 23:43Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised at all. I know
- 23:47Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know a lot about the
- 23:50Speaker 4: Western Michigan program. They really turned the corner when Andy
- 23:59Speaker 4: Maray went there. He gave them real credibility. And the
- 24:05Speaker 4: timing of this national championship is enormous for them because
- 24:10Speaker 4: it coincides with them building this new facility on campus.
- 24:15Speaker 4: And I saw them play early in the season against
- 24:19Speaker 4: Boston College, who was everybody's preseason and probably even regular
- 24:25Speaker 4: season pick to win the whole thing, and they played it.
- 24:30Speaker 4: It was a two to one game, and it was
- 24:32Speaker 4: it was a great game, and so I wasn't surprised
- 24:35Speaker 4: at all that they were the team standing at the
- 24:38Speaker 4: end and and and they did it in great fashion.
- 24:42Speaker 4: I mean, they beat a good bu team handily in
- 24:46Speaker 4: that final game.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Okay, Michael, your what's your take on Western Michigan.
- 24:56Speaker 2: I mean, what a what a tremendous accomplishment it was
- 24:59Speaker 2: for them. I know that, you know, the red wing zone,
- 25:01Speaker 2: Danny d Kaiser, they had to be smiling from ear
- 25:03Speaker 2: to ear as a former Bronco himself, and I know
- 25:07Speaker 2: some people who were down in Saint Louis for the game,
- 25:09Speaker 2: and they said it was just an incredible atmosphere. You know,
- 25:13Speaker 2: it's really great to see not only when a local
- 25:15Speaker 2: well not really local, but Michigan based here uh school
- 25:19Speaker 2: have the success, especially for the first time. You know,
- 25:24Speaker 2: just gott to tip your hat to them. Like you said,
- 25:27Speaker 2: it's definitely not easy to beat a team like Boston College,
- 25:29Speaker 2: who a lot of people thought were going to be
- 25:31Speaker 2: the last one standing. But good for them. They got
- 25:33Speaker 2: it done. And now there's a we got another trophy
- 25:36Speaker 2: year in the state of Michigan.
- 25:38Speaker 1: All Right, can't I gonna let you go this time
- 25:40Speaker 1: because you know you've had time to prepare for it,
- 25:42Speaker 1: but also give it was JV's.
- 25:44Speaker 6: Version, Okay, So from my version, Western Michigan has been
- 25:51Speaker 6: competing at the Division IE level since nineteen seventy five.
- 25:57Speaker 6: For the first thirty five years in Division one, it
- 26:00Speaker 6: made the NC two A tournament only three times and
- 26:04Speaker 6: had never won it all. So congratulations to them for
- 26:08Speaker 6: winning it all. Now JB's let me see give me
- 26:14Speaker 6: a second.
- 26:14Speaker 3: Okay.
- 26:15Speaker 6: The NCAA hockey field is made up of almost the
- 26:18Speaker 6: same teams, and for Western Michigan to beat a powerhouse
- 26:22Speaker 6: is a great accomplishment and they should be proud of
- 26:25Speaker 6: their achieve achievements and celebrate.
- 26:28Speaker 1: Right go to George Eiicorn.
- 26:31Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm very happy for them. I mean, it's kind
- 26:34Speaker 8: of came out of the blue for a lot of
- 26:37Speaker 8: Detroit area fans. You know, we're so used to hearing
- 26:40Speaker 8: about U of M, especially when the great Red Bearnson
- 26:42Speaker 8: was their coach at Michigan State, of course with Mason
- 26:46Speaker 8: and Colmley, and they had a great year of this
- 26:48Speaker 8: too this year while Michigan State Spartans.
- 26:51Speaker 3: I thought they might go to the finals.
- 26:53Speaker 8: But when you mentioned earlier Mike Santos about Andy Murray,
- 26:59Speaker 8: ye we'll forget that. Yeah, he laid that groundwork from
- 27:02Speaker 8: twenty eleven to twenty twenty one, and now they, obviously
- 27:08Speaker 8: four years later, are reaping the rewards of their hard work.
- 27:13Speaker 8: And it's unfortunate because in Detroit we saw some of
- 27:19Speaker 8: the CCHA teams, but we very rarely got to look
- 27:22Speaker 8: at Western Michigan at that time. But it's it's a
- 27:27Speaker 8: secret no more, it's a secret more. They're number one,
- 27:30Speaker 8: They're the top team in college hockey. So hats off,
- 27:33Speaker 8: of course to the Broncos on a great, great achievement.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Well, let alone the fact that they beat two historical programs.
- 27:41Speaker 1: You would beat Denver and then he ended up beating
- 27:43Speaker 1: Boston University. I mean, I understand college hockey. They're as
- 27:47Speaker 1: good as Again, take up some thoughts.
- 27:50Speaker 5: How many times do you hear the same teams in
- 27:53Speaker 5: this Frozen four?
- 27:54Speaker 7: You'll hear you brought up Denver, you bring up, you
- 27:57Speaker 7: brought up Michigan State, you bring up Michigan, you bring
- 28:00Speaker 7: up Cornell, you bring up I mean Billy a Bu you.
- 28:04Speaker 5: Bring up you know, any of these type of teams
- 28:06Speaker 5: there the ones you hear all the time. You don't
- 28:09Speaker 5: hear Western Michigan. Candy brought it up herself. That's mean.
- 28:13Speaker 7: I mean that they've basically been there six times and
- 28:15Speaker 7: never e won a game. But how many times do
- 28:19Speaker 7: I ever bring up how much of the world's changed
- 28:22Speaker 7: in sports? Usually all of the years that we ever
- 28:27Speaker 7: grew up, whether it I'll just talk about any sport
- 28:30Speaker 7: that it's like anybody that just kind of broke through,
- 28:33Speaker 7: they lose, they're done, you know what I mean, They're done,
- 28:36Speaker 7: and then they have to keep building.
- 28:37Speaker 5: Up and stepping up, stepping up. Not anymore, not anymore.
- 28:42Speaker 7: I mean you think of you think of the Golden
- 28:45Speaker 7: Knights first year in existence, we've been getting to the cup.
- 28:50Speaker 7: It's like it's not I mean, there's more money, there's
- 28:53Speaker 7: more competition in the way, there's all that kind of stuff.
- 28:56Speaker 7: Anybody can just slip on in and do whatever. And
- 28:59Speaker 7: Western Michigan be in two very very classic teams. Let
- 29:04Speaker 7: me tell you this, and this is not disregarding them
- 29:07Speaker 7: at all. Congratulations to them. I am so happy for them.
- 29:11Speaker 7: But I will tell you this, in like two thousand
- 29:14Speaker 7: and five, it would have been almost unbelievable, enormous everything
- 29:19Speaker 7: because people didn't step in like that.
- 29:22Speaker 5: Now it's pretty normal. They're just in the right timing.
- 29:26Speaker 9: Now.
- 29:27Speaker 5: Congratulations to them, and they took advantage. But beating two big.
- 29:31Speaker 7: Teams like that is not the same as it was,
- 29:35Speaker 7: like it would have been enormous fifteen years ago, enormous
- 29:39Speaker 7: just because people didn't teams that didn't have the history,
- 29:43Speaker 7: didn't step in and any kind of sport and just
- 29:45Speaker 7: do that. They're doing that more now just because it's
- 29:48Speaker 7: a different time. Like, congratulations to them.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna pick a back off George for a moment, okay,
- 29:54Speaker 1: And I don't have to beat you up really seriously really,
- 29:56Speaker 1: because you are really right. They're no longer the best
- 30:00Speaker 1: kept secret in Michigan for sure because they did what
- 30:02Speaker 1: they were able to do. I'm going to end this
- 30:04Speaker 1: topic on this note. I don't even know how much
- 30:07Speaker 1: nil and transfer portal stuff comes into play with this team,
- 30:10Speaker 1: but they still managed to come out of nowhere to
- 30:12Speaker 1: pull this thing off. And we'll leave it at that.
- 30:14Speaker 1: So with that said, we're going to go to one
- 30:16Speaker 1: Panthers topic. We go to a station break after that.
- 30:19Speaker 1: Congratulations to Florida Panthers head coach Paul Marives for picking
- 30:22Speaker 1: up at nine hundred and fifteenth wins for passing Barry
- 30:25Speaker 1: Trott's for third on the all time list. Mike Santos,
- 30:27Speaker 1: that's one whale of an accomplishment for Paul Marie.
- 30:31Speaker 4: Yeah, and tudos to Panther's ownership for making the decision
- 30:38Speaker 4: to bring him in. First of all, he actually had
- 30:43Speaker 4: quit on the Winnipeg Jets right the season before they
- 30:48Speaker 4: hired him, and it was not He was not well
- 30:53Speaker 4: regarded after he did that. You don't find a lot
- 30:56Speaker 4: of coaches that quit on a team the mien of
- 30:59Speaker 4: the season. But the Panthers also when they hired him,
- 31:06Speaker 4: came off of a great season, almost full season with
- 31:14Speaker 4: Andrew Burnett as the head coach.
- 31:17Speaker 9: In November when Quinnville was suspended. It was pretty much
- 31:21Speaker 9: the head coach.
- 31:21Speaker 4: For the for the full year and at that point
- 31:24Speaker 4: led them to the best season they had ever had.
- 31:27Speaker 9: So it took a lot of guts to.
- 31:31Speaker 4: Not keep Burnett in that position and also to hire
- 31:35Speaker 4: a guy like Maurice you know, who's had a good
- 31:38Speaker 4: track record before he was here, but you know, he's uh,
- 31:43Speaker 4: he's unfiltered, and it was a little bit of a
- 31:46Speaker 4: risk for them to make that move and it's paid off,
- 31:50Speaker 4: and kudos to him, obviously, it's paid off with two
- 31:53Speaker 4: straight finals appearances, Steel couple last year and whether after
- 31:59Speaker 4: a good start after last nank too.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to say this about that hire number one,
- 32:05Speaker 1: Andrew Brunette came off a heck of a year, he
- 32:08Speaker 1: really did, and I but I did feel and I
- 32:10Speaker 1: had spoken to George Richards and with Georgia, who obviously
- 32:14Speaker 1: covers the Panthers extensively, but he felt they needed a
- 32:17Speaker 1: veteran coach and that's why they opted to go with
- 32:19Speaker 1: Paul Maurice. But Andrew Brunette did end up doing an
- 32:23Speaker 1: admirable job with Florida and he ended up taking a
- 32:25Speaker 1: national job. Obviously, he has a lot of work to
- 32:28Speaker 1: do out there, and we'll talk about that a little
- 32:31Speaker 1: bit more next week. But pal ma Reice turned out
- 32:33Speaker 1: to be one big home run higher for Florida, and
- 32:36Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the Florida Panthers half to
- 32:38Speaker 1: be a lightning series later in the show. We're not
- 32:41Speaker 1: going to get in any more series outside of that one.
- 32:44Speaker 1: I want to see how the rest of them play
- 32:46Speaker 1: out before we go any deeper. We just feel like
- 32:48Speaker 1: we have a lot of other topics that are far
- 32:50Speaker 1: more important than going into what I consider incomplete series.
- 32:53Speaker 1: So more power to the Panthers. They brought in pal Maurice,
- 32:56Speaker 1: and the guy has done an outstanding job. I think
- 32:59Speaker 1: he felt like in a PEG he had done everything
- 33:01Speaker 1: that he could do with a small market team, and
- 33:03Speaker 1: he's been given all the resources a little and having
- 33:05Speaker 1: Bill Zito as your general manager, who I consider nothing short,
- 33:10Speaker 1: nothing less of a genius for being able to bring
- 33:13Speaker 1: in these guys and look what's happening. So we'll talk
- 33:16Speaker 1: a bit a bit more about the Panthers than Lightning
- 33:18Speaker 1: later in the show, but I will not get into
- 33:20Speaker 1: any other series until next Wednesday Night's edition of The
- 33:23Speaker 1: Sports Exchange. Okay, with that said, Mike, what are your
- 33:27Speaker 1: thoughts about paulm Reese.
- 33:34Speaker 2: Obviously, well, he's shown himself to be one of the
- 33:36Speaker 2: better coaches in the NHL. It was kind of strange,
- 33:39Speaker 2: kind of like you mentioned, when he literally stepped away
- 33:41Speaker 2: from the Jets in the middle of their season. Can
- 33:45Speaker 2: understand why some Jets fans would not be too pleased
- 33:48Speaker 2: about that. But obviously he's led he has a good
- 33:52Speaker 2: team of players, not only to oversee, but he's been
- 33:56Speaker 2: able to lead them to the Cup final two years
- 33:59Speaker 2: in a row, culminated with the first ever championship for
- 34:03Speaker 2: the Panthers last year, and so farther off to a
- 34:05Speaker 2: pretty good start this year with that pretty pretty convincing
- 34:09Speaker 2: takedown of the Lightning in their game one the other night,
- 34:13Speaker 2: and so we'll see that. If you know, he can
- 34:16Speaker 2: lead him to three peat appearance in the final and
- 34:19Speaker 2: maybe two titles in three years.
- 34:21Speaker 1: Hey, Joshua, have you ever heard of the work patience.
- 34:23Speaker 1: I'll give you some good advice. It works. We have
- 34:27Speaker 1: more hockey to get to. Just so you understand, hang
- 34:30Speaker 1: in there with us. Keep in mind this is a
- 34:33Speaker 1: national hockey show and I do my best to get
- 34:36Speaker 1: as much Florida stuff in there as I can, and
- 34:38Speaker 1: I have an entire NHL to get to. With that,
- 34:41Speaker 1: said George, go ahead.
- 34:44Speaker 8: Well, Buna Moris obviously has had a successful career. Yes,
- 34:50Speaker 8: it's he had his ups and downs, but you know,
- 34:52Speaker 8: going back to when he started in Detroit and winsor
- 34:57Speaker 8: you know, it's interesting that, to be honest with you,
- 35:01Speaker 8: it's interesting that the Red Wings. I don't know if
- 35:03Speaker 8: they ever tried to get him, but he would have
- 35:06Speaker 8: been probably a decent fit because, like I said, he
- 35:09Speaker 8: he no only played for the windsor Spitfires, but then
- 35:12Speaker 8: he coached them. He coached the Detroit Junior Red Wings.
- 35:15Speaker 8: But that was all in the past and now is now.
- 35:19Speaker 8: And to be a coach and win your first Stanley
- 35:23Speaker 8: Cup is remarkable and and for the franchises first, I mean,
- 35:27Speaker 8: and really it was an amazing season and they're continually
- 35:30Speaker 8: at like you guys said this year as well.
- 35:33Speaker 3: So hats off to Paul Maurice.
- 35:35Speaker 8: He's put in a lot of years in the NHL,
- 35:38Speaker 8: the KHL, the AHL and the OHL and certainly deserves
- 35:44Speaker 8: his UH, his tip of the hat from UH from
- 35:47Speaker 8: here in the UH, in the Motor City as well.
- 35:51Speaker 1: I don't think that they question Paul Ra's going to
- 35:52Speaker 1: get a statchout in front of a Merit Bank arena
- 35:56Speaker 1: if he wins another one. We know his name is
- 35:59Speaker 1: going into the raptors begin. It was all right, Jacob,
- 36:01Speaker 1: go ahead.
- 36:02Speaker 7: You have to ask what happened with Winnipeg just as
- 36:05Speaker 7: far as his mind, where was his mind? And when
- 36:07Speaker 7: they did that, Winnipeg's not happy. Don't get that wrong.
- 36:11Speaker 7: They have every right to me as much as I
- 36:13Speaker 7: get on fans of every sport ever, they have every
- 36:15Speaker 7: right on that.
- 36:16Speaker 5: You kind of just bailed on them. But we do
- 36:18Speaker 5: have to ask how much.
- 36:20Speaker 7: He's been an NHL coach since ninety five, right, that's
- 36:26Speaker 7: thirty years. How many times has he been to playoffs?
- 36:29Speaker 7: And you know how stressful the Stanley Cup playoffs. The
- 36:32Speaker 7: Stanley Cup playups are stressful to us as fans, insane.
- 36:37Speaker 7: How much would it be as coach?
- 36:39Speaker 1: And how many?
- 36:40Speaker 7: How many games? How many see cooks? You have to
- 36:45Speaker 7: wonder and ask him. Mind you, we don't have his answer,
- 36:48Speaker 7: and he's not going to really tell the media every
- 36:50Speaker 7: little detail unless he writes a book whever he's written
- 36:53Speaker 7: a book already. You have to ask the question, did
- 36:56Speaker 7: he just have to mentally decompress, you know, just from
- 37:00Speaker 7: the thing he Remember he was twenty seven years in
- 37:02Speaker 7: when he quit. You just have to wonder if I mean,
- 37:07Speaker 7: remember he retired, He just basically bailed out at thirteen
- 37:10Speaker 7: to ten. He bailed out thirteen and ten, So ask yourself,
- 37:16Speaker 7: I mean, was there pressure where there are people getting
- 37:18Speaker 7: on him?
- 37:19Speaker 8: Did he just do it?
- 37:20Speaker 7: Did he just need a decompressed for because remember he
- 37:23Speaker 7: coached like forty games the next year, so he had
- 37:26Speaker 7: to go through how many No, no, no, I'm sorry,
- 37:29Speaker 7: my apologies.
- 37:30Speaker 5: He was all eighty two. But you have to ask
- 37:33Speaker 5: how much was it was a mental decompression? How much
- 37:35Speaker 5: was it pressure?
- 37:37Speaker 1: And truthfully, I don't think it was going to come
- 37:38Speaker 1: back and coach until the Panther situation came about when
- 37:41Speaker 1: he saw that opportunity with the talent they had, he
- 37:43Speaker 1: had no choice but to take it all, right, can't he?
- 37:45Speaker 1: You can speak here yourself and JB. And then after
- 37:48Speaker 1: that we go to a station break a lot more
- 37:49Speaker 1: hockey to talk about tonight. And let's not forget our
- 37:52Speaker 1: pundents funded moment as well. That will come as we
- 37:55Speaker 1: go along as well, This funded funnel moment, it's gonna
- 37:57Speaker 1: be a really neat one, so hey, stay with.
- 38:00Speaker 3: Us, right.
- 38:02Speaker 6: Paul Maurice is a Canadian professional ice hockey coach and
- 38:06Speaker 6: a former player. At age forty three, Maurice became the
- 38:10Speaker 6: youngest coach in NHL history to coach a thousand games,
- 38:14Speaker 6: reaching the milestone on November twenty eight, twenty ten. He
- 38:17Speaker 6: also holds a record for the most losses by an
- 38:20Speaker 6: NHL coach with seven hundred and thirty six. But the
- 38:25Speaker 6: success that he's brought and that he's had at the
- 38:30Speaker 6: Panthers has changed the mindset of the Panthers here and
- 38:36Speaker 6: he's bringing fans back to the stands. They're they're drawing
- 38:39Speaker 6: better crowds. They're I mean, Florida is I will say
- 38:46Speaker 6: for lack of a better word, a fair weathered team
- 38:48Speaker 6: of fair weathered fans. They they support their team when
- 38:52Speaker 6: they're winning, but when they're not.
- 38:55Speaker 5: The rats come out and that's against the whole team.
- 38:58Speaker 6: But kudos to.
- 39:00Speaker 3: Him for.
- 39:02Speaker 6: Getting this opportunity and for it all gelling together and
- 39:06Speaker 6: working together, because, let's face it, in hockey, to maintain
- 39:11Speaker 6: that high level and being up on top is very
- 39:15Speaker 6: hard to do. You know that Detroit had their streak
- 39:18Speaker 6: where they made the playoffs for how many years? But
- 39:20Speaker 6: now they've missed for how many years? That tells you
- 39:23Speaker 6: how hard it is. It's not easy to do that,
- 39:25Speaker 6: so kudos to them. They're in a tough series right
- 39:28Speaker 6: now with the Lightning.
- 39:30Speaker 5: But hopefully they can pull it off.
- 39:33Speaker 1: As for JB, yep.
- 39:35Speaker 6: As for JB, it says a lot to move up
- 39:39Speaker 6: on an all time wins list. You have to be
- 39:41Speaker 6: good at what you do in order to have that chance.
- 39:43Speaker 6: You also have to have a great organization behind you
- 39:46Speaker 6: that supplies you the talent and believes in your vision
- 39:49Speaker 6: on the ice. It says a lot to get there
- 39:51Speaker 6: and there is more in his future. As they are
- 39:54Speaker 6: playing tough against the Lightning in the first round.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Okay, enough, all right, you go to a station break
- 39:59Speaker 1: a lot more stuff.
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- 40:57Speaker 1: Beck to you, Scott, all right, Well, I'm gonna tell
- 40:59Speaker 1: you what I think at the ratings ticket hit in
- 41:01Speaker 1: the National Hockey League. I'll give you a lot of
- 41:03Speaker 1: good reasons why. For the first time in NHL history,
- 41:06Speaker 1: four US based teams the original six have all missed
- 41:10Speaker 1: the playoffs Stanley Cup playoffs, the first time in the history,
- 41:14Speaker 1: believe it or not, the four American US based team
- 41:17Speaker 1: we talked about, the Rangers, the Bruins, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit
- 41:20Speaker 1: Red Wings and another first also if you have the Bruins,
- 41:23Speaker 1: the Rangers, and the Pittsburgh Tenguins, that's a lot of
- 41:26Speaker 1: big American markets out there, Mike Santos that are Can
- 41:30Speaker 1: you believe that this is unbelievable?
- 41:35Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 41:35Speaker 8: I can.
- 41:36Speaker 4: In this age of the NHL, there's so much parity,
- 41:43Speaker 4: and it doesn't take but a bad mover or to
- 41:48Speaker 4: a bad draft or two, and you can fall right
- 41:52Speaker 4: out of the right out of the top sixteen in
- 41:55Speaker 4: this league. And that's what's happened with all these organizations
- 42:00Speaker 4: that you mentioned.
- 42:03Speaker 9: Boston.
- 42:03Speaker 4: I listened to the press conference today with Kim Nealy
- 42:06Speaker 4: and Don Sweeney, and they are they're a mess.
- 42:10Speaker 9: They're a mess.
- 42:11Speaker 4: Uh the in from coach to Osaco who they still
- 42:16Speaker 4: don't know what they're going to.
- 42:17Speaker 7: Do with.
- 42:18Speaker 4: And that's after firing two coaches who had tremendous success
- 42:23Speaker 4: with them. The first one, Cassidy, then went on to
- 42:27Speaker 4: win the Stanley Cup the very next year with Vegas,
- 42:30Speaker 4: and and then Jim Montgomery, who had the best record
- 42:34Speaker 4: in the NHL and the best record all time in
- 42:38Speaker 4: the HL a couple of years ago, gets dismissed in
- 42:43Speaker 4: the middle of this season, moves on to Saint Louis
- 42:45Speaker 4: and brings Saint Louis back from the dead into the playoffs.
- 42:49Speaker 4: So that's just one example. You know, the Red Wings,
- 42:53Speaker 4: the Rangers, the Blackhawks, they all have their own issues, right,
- 42:58Speaker 4: but yeah, it's different and it's a big league now.
- 43:05Speaker 4: Money means so much, how you spend it being so much.
- 43:12Speaker 9: There's just.
- 43:14Speaker 4: You know, I think Jacob was brought up Vegas. First
- 43:18Speaker 4: year they go to the finals. You know, third year
- 43:21Speaker 4: they win the Cup, right that that would never happen
- 43:24Speaker 4: with an expansion team before. The rules have changed, the
- 43:27Speaker 4: way things, the way teams play the game has changed,
- 43:32Speaker 4: the way they travel has changed. And we've gone through
- 43:36Speaker 4: years where you know, one or no Canadian teams have
- 43:41Speaker 4: made the playoffs, which is crazy.
- 43:44Speaker 9: And there's uh you know, there's seven of them.
- 43:47Speaker 4: So so four of the six US four of the
- 43:51Speaker 4: six teams who happened to be four of the six
- 43:54Speaker 4: original teams.
- 43:56Speaker 9: Who happen to be for the US missing doesn't surprise me.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're major TV markets and that's for ESPN
- 44:03Speaker 1: and TNT and ABC have to be salvating. But I
- 44:06Speaker 1: agree with you one hundred percent.
- 44:08Speaker 9: I do. But that's on the NHL.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Okay, No, I get that. I'm just saying because the NHL.
- 44:15Speaker 4: Had a decade with teams like well, they had a
- 44:20Speaker 4: Stanley Cup Final. It was with the Rangers in LA
- 44:26Speaker 4: in the Stanley Cup Final. I mean, what markets in
- 44:28Speaker 4: the US are bigger than that for TV? What did
- 44:32Speaker 4: they do to capitalize on that?
- 44:33Speaker 9: Nothing?
- 44:35Speaker 1: Nothing.
- 44:36Speaker 4: You know, they had the Chicago Blackhawks who were in
- 44:39Speaker 4: three finals, you know, in ten years, another major market
- 44:43Speaker 4: Original six team.
- 44:44Speaker 9: They did nothing to capitalize that.
- 44:46Speaker 4: I mean, there was a decade of Original six teams
- 44:50Speaker 4: in the finals, between the Blackhawks, the Boston Bruins who
- 44:54Speaker 4: were in the finals twice, the Rangers who we just mentioned, right,
- 44:59Speaker 4: I mean the Red Wings of course with their run.
- 45:02Speaker 4: I mean they had Original six teams and major markets
- 45:05Speaker 4: in the playsts for years and they didn't do anything
- 45:08Speaker 4: with it.
- 45:08Speaker 9: And the game has changed.
- 45:10Speaker 4: It's you can talk about major TV markets, but the
- 45:13Speaker 4: game is now played all over this country. It's not
- 45:17Speaker 4: a sport just for the Northeast anymore. And you know,
- 45:20Speaker 4: teams have been in Dallas and in southern California for
- 45:25Speaker 4: years now, not you know, not ten years, not fifteen years,
- 45:28Speaker 4: twenty five, thirty years.
- 45:30Speaker 9: So it's changed.
- 45:32Speaker 4: The NHL has changed, the landscapes changed, and if they're
- 45:37Speaker 4: not taking advantage of, you know, when they have the
- 45:40Speaker 4: opportunity to have some of these major television markets in there,
- 45:43Speaker 4: then sorry, that's their fault.
- 45:48Speaker 1: No, I agree with you. Everything you're saying is on point.
- 45:51Speaker 1: Online is is do you lose four major markets of
- 45:54Speaker 1: these nature? The reality is the number is going to suffer.
- 45:57Speaker 1: But everything you said is on point. I'm not disagreeing
- 45:59Speaker 1: with it. I'm agreeing. And then you add Pittsburgh to
- 46:03Speaker 1: the frame. And then you look at some of the
- 46:05Speaker 1: star power out there, like sending Crosby. That all adds up.
- 46:09Speaker 1: But that's not taking away from all the other teams
- 46:11Speaker 1: that played their way and earned their way in there.
- 46:13Speaker 1: That rightfully deserves the opportunity, and there's still some major markets. Luft.
- 46:17Speaker 1: Let's turn over to Jacob in your thoughts. Let me
- 46:20Speaker 1: tell you this.
- 46:21Speaker 5: You brought up the major TV markets. Here's an issue
- 46:24Speaker 5: with something like that.
- 46:25Speaker 7: It's not what it used to be because it's we're
- 46:28Speaker 7: not You don't look at New York, Chicago or anything
- 46:30Speaker 7: like that. Let me brings a little deal to you.
- 46:33Speaker 7: I can go to ESPN Plus, I can I watch
- 46:37Speaker 7: say Saint Louis versus Las Vegas hypothetical.
- 46:41Speaker 5: I'm just giving this is me.
- 46:42Speaker 7: In the regular season, it said I go to ESPN Plus.
- 46:46Speaker 7: I clicked that game. It says the Blue I mean
- 46:50Speaker 7: the Blues announcers or the Vegas announcers.
- 46:54Speaker 5: That's what I pick.
- 46:54Speaker 7: I'm a Blues fan, everybody I say, I. But I
- 46:57Speaker 7: can also pick from either side. Do you want Spanish
- 47:00Speaker 7: or do you want English? So many different options, and
- 47:03Speaker 7: I'll bet you they'll be French eventually, because you know
- 47:05Speaker 7: there's French, Canadian.
- 47:08Speaker 5: So many different.
- 47:08Speaker 7: Options now the big TV markets that aren't going to
- 47:11Speaker 7: be there because it's all streaming. Now everything is streaming.
- 47:15Speaker 7: So I mean, I'm from Quincy, Illinois, small town two
- 47:19Speaker 7: hours outside of Saint Louis and I can watch Late
- 47:23Speaker 7: Night Vegas same thing. It'd be the same rating, so
- 47:27Speaker 7: it really would matter. But here's the deal with this.
- 47:29Speaker 7: And when I'm gonna bring something else up, I brought
- 47:32Speaker 7: up Detroit earlier. I brought up how it irritated I
- 47:35Speaker 7: was with the fans. They're wanting the tank and then
- 47:38Speaker 7: they still can't get back now because they're stupid. The
- 47:42Speaker 7: Blackhawks were the same three Stanley Cups, and all they
- 47:45Speaker 7: could do is whine and cry about stan Bowman, who
- 47:49Speaker 7: is from a hockey royalty.
- 47:53Speaker 5: All they could do is complain about him. They want to.
- 47:55Speaker 5: It's like now they are in the world.
- 47:59Speaker 7: I mean, the didn't they get Jeremy Collington, who was
- 48:02Speaker 7: I mean, they wanted their guy out. Then they get
- 48:03Speaker 7: Jeremy Colliden, who's horrible, and then they complain about him.
- 48:06Speaker 5: Well they want any.
- 48:09Speaker 7: I mean, it's I mean, just seriously, it's no different
- 48:11Speaker 7: from Greek fall. I'm just gonna say this. In the
- 48:13Speaker 7: White Sox after LaRussa was going same, they all complain,
- 48:17Speaker 7: they all celebrate, then they pretend they never did. It's
- 48:21Speaker 7: like these front offices of any type of sports team
- 48:24Speaker 7: will say hockey right now, say to any of them,
- 48:26Speaker 7: Quit listening to fans, Quit giving them the.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Time of day.
- 48:31Speaker 5: You don't know anything. They don't know anything.
- 48:35Speaker 3: It's like, I really.
- 48:36Speaker 7: Believe, if you didn't make some of these moves to
- 48:38Speaker 7: try to quiet things down, you're probably in the playoffs
- 48:41Speaker 7: a lot quicker than you are now. The whole thing
- 48:45Speaker 7: with Detroit, Chicago, New York, all of this. It's on
- 48:49Speaker 7: them for their deals, but it's not really gonna matter
- 48:51Speaker 7: with the market. But we got to get to a
- 48:53Speaker 7: point where we just quit.
- 48:56Speaker 5: The people that go to these games.
- 48:58Speaker 7: They're there to gamble, they are to drink that, they're
- 49:01Speaker 7: to yell. They're not in that, they're not in those
- 49:04Speaker 7: draft rooms, and they're not in the offices. Quit trying
- 49:08Speaker 7: to appease them, ignore the noise, and build a team again.
- 49:13Speaker 3: You know, let me let me that.
- 49:16Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't all that long ago when sixteen
- 49:21Speaker 4: of twenty one NHL teams used to make the playoffs. Okay, true,
- 49:26Speaker 4: Now we've got thirty two teams. Yeah, so the odds
- 49:29Speaker 4: of making the playoffs aren't is quite as great as
- 49:32Speaker 4: they used to be. And all of us graybeards here
- 49:36Speaker 4: who you know, learned for the years when we were young,
- 49:40Speaker 4: and you know, the Red Wings and the Bruins and
- 49:42Speaker 4: the Canadians and the Maple Leafs and the Rangers, and
- 49:44Speaker 4: they were the black Hawks were always were always in
- 49:47Speaker 4: there fighting for the cup every year. The game's changed,
- 49:51Speaker 4: as I said, the markets have changed, and there are
- 49:54Speaker 4: fans in Vegas, in San Jose and Anaheim and Dallas
- 49:58Speaker 4: and all these places. They're not They're not just in
- 50:01Speaker 4: the places where we're from anymore.
- 50:05Speaker 1: That's an excellent point. Succeed out a twenty one for
- 50:08Speaker 1: all those skys like an aarp, which Mike Whinnaker is
- 50:12Speaker 1: not one of them. All right, So Mike, what are
- 50:14Speaker 1: your thoughts about what I just talked about for US
- 50:18Speaker 1: Originals teams not making it well?
- 50:22Speaker 2: Obviously some excuse me the some of those teams that
- 50:27Speaker 2: are going in different directions. Obviously of the Red Wings,
- 50:30Speaker 2: who you know I cover intimately here. Uh, you know,
- 50:35Speaker 2: they certainly had a long run of success, and I
- 50:37Speaker 2: think they are kind of paying the price for that
- 50:39Speaker 2: success of having never had the first overall draft pick
- 50:43Speaker 2: all those years. Obviously, there were many numerous missteps with
- 50:49Speaker 2: Ken Holland in his later years as the general manager,
- 50:53Speaker 2: and you know, I think you know, obviously what Steve
- 50:57Speaker 2: Eiserman is doing. He uh, he certainly had his work
- 51:01Speaker 2: cut out for him, because the situation that you inherited
- 51:04Speaker 2: that truly was pretty rotten. But you know, obviously there
- 51:08Speaker 2: there is some there is some impatience growing around here,
- 51:12Speaker 2: and I know that George can certainly see it too,
- 51:14Speaker 2: with fans who feel that maybe this team should be
- 51:17Speaker 2: progressing quicker than they are. But then again, you talk
- 51:21Speaker 2: about the other some of the other original six teams
- 51:23Speaker 2: who are not in the playoffs. I don't think anybody
- 51:25Speaker 2: expected Boston to completely implode on itself the way that
- 51:30Speaker 2: they did. I mean, this is a team that's only
- 51:32Speaker 2: two years removed from sixty five wins. They've they sold
- 51:39Speaker 2: at the trade deadline. Obviously they are going to be
- 51:43Speaker 2: probably on the verge of a painful rebuild. And then
- 51:46Speaker 2: you have teams like the Blackhawks, who have been near
- 51:49Speaker 2: the bottom of the NHL now for the last couple
- 51:51Speaker 2: of years. They're obviously hoping that you know, conniber Dark
- 51:54Speaker 2: can help to kind of lead them out of that
- 51:57Speaker 2: out of that darkness. But he can't do it all himself, obviously,
- 52:01Speaker 2: he needs help. And then uh, the new York Rangers.
- 52:05Speaker 2: That's that's just kind of a mess of a situation,
- 52:09Speaker 2: especially with how things went for them this season. They
- 52:12Speaker 2: started out tremendously well and looked like they were going
- 52:14Speaker 2: to cruise through on their playoffs butt and then things
- 52:16Speaker 2: just completely fall apart. And so obviously a lot of
- 52:20Speaker 2: Rangers fans are not happy today with the news that
- 52:22Speaker 2: Chris Drury was re signed as general manager for multiple years.
- 52:29Speaker 2: That that's that's a situation I would not want to
- 52:32Speaker 2: be overseeing right now because kind of like you all
- 52:35Speaker 2: atted to, it really is a mess right now.
- 52:37Speaker 5: I should have signed up for longer.
- 52:38Speaker 7: If it fans are complaining about it, fans don't know anything,
- 52:43Speaker 7: Just sign up for longer.
- 52:45Speaker 4: To add to that too, again, we kind of hit
- 52:48Speaker 4: a nerve with this one, Scott, but you know again,
- 52:53Speaker 4: the league is so much bigger than it used to be,
- 52:56Speaker 4: and so when you when you're on top for as
- 52:59Speaker 4: long as as those teams were on top. I mean again,
- 53:02Speaker 4: go back to the decade from two thousand to twenty twenty, Boston, Chicago, Detroit.
- 53:10Speaker 4: You wanted to go to Pittsburgh and there the Rangers,
- 53:13Speaker 4: they were all on top, and you know what, happens
- 53:16Speaker 4: when you when you're on top in a thirty two
- 53:18Speaker 4: team league, you draft thirty seconds. That's a lot different
- 53:22Speaker 4: than drafting twentieth in a twenty team leade or a
- 53:26Speaker 4: twenty one team league.
- 53:28Speaker 9: And so that's the way it's set up.
- 53:30Speaker 4: It's set up that way for a reason, you know,
- 53:33Speaker 4: whether it's the new expansion draft rules or the fact
- 53:36Speaker 4: that when you win, you draft last. And so that's
- 53:41Speaker 4: that's why you get into these situations. You try to
- 53:44Speaker 4: keep yourself and Jacob's right, and you know they have
- 53:49Speaker 4: no clue what's really going on here. But they sure
- 53:52Speaker 4: were happy in Chicago when they were you know, they
- 53:55Speaker 4: were on the break and winning the Cup for ten
- 53:56Speaker 4: years in a row. You know that that was fine.
- 53:59Speaker 4: But then all of a sudden and and what it
- 54:01Speaker 4: took to manage that team with a salary cap, Who
- 54:06Speaker 4: do you let go and manage that team so that
- 54:09Speaker 4: they could win three Cups in those ten years?
- 54:12Speaker 9: Like that's that's hard.
- 54:14Speaker 4: But when you when you hit bottom, now, you hit
- 54:17Speaker 4: bottom because it's just ten years in a row of
- 54:20Speaker 4: managing a salary cap, trying to keep your team as
- 54:23Speaker 4: competitive as it can be to win while you're in
- 54:25Speaker 4: that window and drafting last, so they're not really getting
- 54:28Speaker 4: any of those top protects coming in your organization to
- 54:31Speaker 4: refill the cupboards.
- 54:32Speaker 3: It's hard.
- 54:34Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, And Mike, you niel it little something else
- 54:37Speaker 1: about the Austin Bros. You just like you said earlier, Mike,
- 54:40Speaker 1: you don't let a guy like Jim Montgomery and Bruce
- 54:42Speaker 1: Cassidy get away because you were headed for a much
- 54:45Speaker 1: quicker rebuild because you let two elite coaches go. That's
- 54:48Speaker 1: that's that's what it is. And I agree with you totally.
- 54:51Speaker 1: So let's turn over to George.
- 54:54Speaker 3: Well.
- 54:56Speaker 8: Lots of different things going on here in this discussion
- 54:59Speaker 8: about trying to mine out. The networks are not turning
- 55:02Speaker 8: a deaf ear to these teams as we know NBC, ABC,
- 55:08Speaker 8: I mean, and TNT. You get their schedules out that
- 55:12Speaker 8: come out way in advance, and you see how many
- 55:14Speaker 8: games involving Pittsburgh, Detroit, New York, Boston are on that schedule.
- 55:21Speaker 8: So the networks themselves are not ignoring the teams. But
- 55:25Speaker 8: the fact of the matter is is that, like you said, Mike,
- 55:30Speaker 8: these teams, there's so many teams now in hockey, they
- 55:33Speaker 8: are stepping right over They don't have a sense of
- 55:36Speaker 8: being afraid to play in Detroit or being afraid to
- 55:39Speaker 8: go to the New Boston Garden and playing. I mean,
- 55:42Speaker 8: these guys now, they're strapping up and they're great players
- 55:47Speaker 8: all around the league. There is a certain part of
- 55:51Speaker 8: Scott and myself and others at Relish Jacob probably too,
- 55:55Speaker 8: the original six, But the rest of the hockey world
- 56:00Speaker 8: a lot of people don't give a darn about the
- 56:01Speaker 8: original sex. They just care about obviously. I like Vegas,
- 56:05Speaker 8: I'm gonna support Columbus. I'm gonna put my fun into
- 56:08Speaker 8: the Florida Panthers. So it's spread out all over. So
- 56:12Speaker 8: I think the fact that your original six does not
- 56:15Speaker 8: carry as much weight obviously as it used to, because
- 56:18Speaker 8: we have so many more teams now, and that makes
- 56:21Speaker 8: it even harder for the Isserman's and the Kenny Hollins
- 56:25Speaker 8: and the Bowman's of the world to try to turn
- 56:27Speaker 8: these franchises around or in some cases try to keep
- 56:31Speaker 8: them up, like the Rangers and the Bruins have been
- 56:33Speaker 8: more successful lately obviously than Detroit Chicago, but there's so
- 56:38Speaker 8: much competition out.
- 56:39Speaker 3: There, there's so many games.
- 56:40Speaker 8: I think the networks still long for it because A
- 56:43Speaker 8: Scott and I have talked about this on other shows.
- 56:47Speaker 3: You get that schedule published and there you go.
- 56:49Speaker 8: They'll do a Red Wings game, they'll do a Bruins game,
- 56:52Speaker 8: and they'll get good ratings for those they will.
- 56:55Speaker 3: But it's a tough playing.
- 56:59Speaker 8: The ice surface is is just shared by so many
- 57:03Speaker 8: different entities and so many different teams.
- 57:05Speaker 3: That makes it harder and harder for the original sex
- 57:08Speaker 3: to make it.
- 57:09Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll take that one step further, George. In
- 57:13Speaker 4: nineteen ninety three when Gary Bettman became commissioner of the NHL,
- 57:18Speaker 4: one of the things that he changed or that was changed,
- 57:21Speaker 4: and it was done for broadcasting reasons is they.
- 57:27Speaker 9: Made all the ice surfaces.
- 57:29Speaker 4: In the age of the same size fighter than teams
- 57:35Speaker 4: had different size ice surfaces different arenas. They also wanted
- 57:40Speaker 4: in many arenas they also would have the home bench
- 57:42Speaker 4: next to the penalty benches, so that was an advantage
- 57:45Speaker 4: when he had a guy having out of the penalty boxers.
- 57:47Speaker 9: Close to your bench.
- 57:49Speaker 4: All that was changed for one for broadcasting, so the
- 57:52Speaker 4: broadcast could could broadcast be in the same way in
- 57:56Speaker 4: every arena, and two to make that things fair and equitable.
- 58:01Speaker 4: The problem with that, and you alluded to it, George
- 58:04Speaker 4: is they took away what was thought of as the
- 58:07Speaker 4: home ice advantage, and now you cannot build your team
- 58:13Speaker 4: specifically for your ice surface. So back in the day,
- 58:17Speaker 4: there were places like Boston, for instance, that had a
- 58:20Speaker 4: small eye surface and they always had big, tough teams.
- 58:24Speaker 4: But when you went to Montreal with a bigger, faster
- 58:27Speaker 4: ice surface, you better be ready to skate. That doesn't
- 58:30Speaker 4: exist in the NHL. Every night you're playing in a
- 58:33Speaker 4: two hundred and eighty five rink with the same sized
- 58:37Speaker 4: glass and the same size boards and Jacoble like this,
- 58:42Speaker 4: and the fans have no influence on these players because
- 58:46Speaker 4: the fans are more interested in what's going on with
- 58:48Speaker 4: the dot race on the scoreboard. They're not They're not
- 58:52Speaker 4: reaching over the bench like they used to do with
- 58:56Speaker 4: the Spectrum in Philly or the Forum in Montreal and
- 58:59Speaker 4: grabbing a grabbing a handful of some guy's.
- 59:02Speaker 9: Mullet on the bench, or spitting on them or anything else.
- 59:05Speaker 4: These guys, if you took an NHL team, and I
- 59:08Speaker 4: know this from experience, and you blindfolded them, they wouldn't
- 59:13Speaker 4: know what arena they were in until the other team
- 59:16Speaker 4: came up because they're all the same. There's no more
- 59:19Speaker 4: home ice advantage, and there's no way that you can
- 59:22Speaker 4: build your team for your home ice or to play
- 59:26Speaker 4: a certain style because you've got to play all the
- 59:30Speaker 4: same style. Before you could play a certain style at home,
- 59:33Speaker 4: you would have to be ready for your forty well
- 59:35Speaker 4: now forty one games in the road, but you had
- 59:38Speaker 4: a big advantage for your forty one games at home.
- 59:41Speaker 9: No more, everything's the same now.
- 59:44Speaker 1: Excellent points, Elilay. I didn't know that. Learn every time
- 59:47Speaker 1: you come out, and might always learn an awful lot.
- 59:49Speaker 1: I will turn over to Candy Slash JV. We have
- 59:51Speaker 1: a lot more good NHL information and then we'll have
- 59:56Speaker 1: we'll talk about one series that's in particular interest for
- 59:59Speaker 1: a lot of people in these parts. There'll be the
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: Panthers and the Lightning, but we have a few more
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: things we want to get to. All right, Kney, go ahead.
- 1:00:06Speaker 6: So so one of the things I'm gonna put my
- 1:00:08Speaker 6: head on first and I'm going to talk about So
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: there are more teams in the NHL. So there are
- 1:00:16Speaker 6: more so if you're taking your top talent, because let's
- 1:00:20Speaker 6: face it, normally in most drafts, your your talent is
- 1:00:24Speaker 6: not going to be really really deep, and if even
- 1:00:27Speaker 6: if it is, maybe each team gets one really good player,
- 1:00:31Speaker 6: but then you're not getting two or three good, really
- 1:00:34Speaker 6: good players. You have to hit on everything because there's
- 1:00:38Speaker 6: so many other teams in the league. You have to
- 1:00:40Speaker 6: hit on your head coaching, you have to hit on
- 1:00:41Speaker 6: your drafts, you have to hit on your GM. The
- 1:00:44Speaker 6: other thing that you that we haven't discussed is you
- 1:00:48Speaker 6: have to stay healthy because big injuries play a role
- 1:00:53Speaker 6: in hockey too, because if a player goes down for
- 1:00:56Speaker 6: any significant amount of time and you're without one of
- 1:01:01Speaker 6: your key players, that affects the rest of the team
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: and all the different lines and who's who's gelling with
- 1:01:09Speaker 6: who and who's not, and maybe it's your goalie goes
- 1:01:11Speaker 6: down and you know your goalie was significant. So I
- 1:01:15Speaker 6: think we forget about all of that. And I think,
- 1:01:20Speaker 6: especially in all of sports, everybody is so quick to
- 1:01:25Speaker 6: I need results now, and if I don't get the
- 1:01:28Speaker 6: results I want now, I'm gonna make some kind of change.
- 1:01:30Speaker 6: And we got to keep changing instead of maybe sticking
- 1:01:34Speaker 6: with people two or three seasons to see if it
- 1:01:37Speaker 6: will gel and work. I think a lot of teams
- 1:01:41Speaker 6: are quick to do that as well. Now I'm gonna
- 1:01:44Speaker 6: put my JB hat on. The NHL is a new
- 1:01:48Speaker 6: and exciting time. The original six are not the powers
- 1:01:51Speaker 6: that they used to be. There are opportunities for expansion
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: teams aka Vegas and other exciting teams to make waves
- 1:01:58Speaker 6: and create dynasa. It is based off the TV deals
- 1:02:02Speaker 6: and the salary caps or is it bad hires and
- 1:02:05Speaker 6: upper management is the question. Either way, the NHL playoffs
- 1:02:10Speaker 6: are the best playoffs in sports.
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna add to close up the
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: topic as this. The Organs are losing. They had bad
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: luck and a lottery anyways. They could even land the
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: number one pick a little too, So as far as
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: I'm concerned, you don't need to tank. They I know
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: if they were tanking, but they were bad and they
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: still never got the number one or two picking the draft.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: So even at that a few other things I want
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: to get to. Connor Helibic becomes the seventh goal in
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: NHL history record forty five wins in a single season.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: They can go a little bit wrapping on some of
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: these thoughts, So Mike with your thoughts about Connor Hellibik.
- 1:02:44Speaker 4: Great goalie, probably on a mission this year after his
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: disappointing first round last year against Colorado. They were, you know,
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: they were a favorite in the West last year and
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: and they got bounced early, and he would is not
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: very good. I mean, I think the game one he
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: gave up seven or eight. So kuros to him for
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: evident bounds back season, also for wanting to play in
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: Winnipeg and for signing the signing. There a lot of guys,
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: especially his caliber and a goaltender, I would take the
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: money to get the heck out of there, but he
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: committed himself long term there to be the guy. He's
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: on a mission this year, had a great season, and
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: I would I would make them my favorite right now
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: in the NHL. And nobody wants to say that, but
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: look at what they did in the regular season. I
- 1:03:37Speaker 4: don't I don't know why they're not the favorite to
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: win the whole thing.
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: Good point, sorry, Mike.
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: Obviously, Connor hellibuckets u arguably the best goalie in the league,
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: I would say, And obviously he has a lot of
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: local UH connections, being a Michigan native and having gone
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: to high school locally here, which is to see Michigan
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: pumping out so many great hockey talents. But I think
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: that as as Connor Hallibut goes the so Goo, the
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: Winnipeg Jets essentially obviously they have a lot of great
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: players up front, but you're not gonna get it done
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: without good goaltending. He's been their rock all season. I
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: would he would be my pick for the Vesna Trophy
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: as the league's best goalie this year again, and we'll
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: we'll see how far you can take them. Maybe maybe
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: it's the Jets who can finally end the long Canadian
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: Stanley Cup droughty.
- 1:04:36Speaker 7: Good when you win forty five games and then you
- 1:04:39Speaker 7: have the memory of the first round bounce. The biggest
- 1:04:42Speaker 7: thing is you don't want a reputation. And I'm gonna
- 1:04:45Speaker 7: say this for front officees. Remember all of these leagues,
- 1:04:48Speaker 7: whether it's baseball, basketball, football, hockey, any but it's gonna
- 1:04:51Speaker 7: be a fraternity. There's gonna be our thought process. You
- 1:04:53Speaker 7: don't want the idea of being the regular season guy.
- 1:04:58Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: You don't want to be.
- 1:05:00Speaker 5: Okay, he's so.
- 1:05:01Speaker 7: Good there that Willie bomb will he bomb win accounts.
- 1:05:05Speaker 7: He's gonna need these type and in truth to be
- 1:05:08Speaker 7: in Winnipeg, they're probably they got two oh on Saint Louis.
- 1:05:11Speaker 7: They probably need to sweep them right in truth to
- 1:05:15Speaker 7: really keep that thing. I mean, you said it yourself, Mike,
- 1:05:19Speaker 7: coming in with on a mission, they kind of be
- 1:05:22Speaker 7: really need to be a mission.
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: You don't need.
- 1:05:24Speaker 7: They really don't need a battle from an eight seed,
- 1:05:28Speaker 7: from a team that's done this before in nineteen came.
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: All the dang way back.
- 1:05:33Speaker 5: They don't need a battle.
- 1:05:34Speaker 9: They need to get rid of him quick, George.
- 1:05:39Speaker 8: Yeah, Connor is a great goaltender. Obviously, he's first in
- 1:05:43Speaker 8: this season with forty seven wins. He's first with the
- 1:05:46Speaker 8: goals against two point oh one, and he's second in
- 1:05:50Speaker 8: say percentage at ninety two and first in shutouts with eight.
- 1:05:54Speaker 8: So there's no question about it. Thirty one years old,
- 1:05:57Speaker 8: and you're right, Mike, commerce Township which is the home
- 1:06:01Speaker 8: of our friends Jim Brandstadter, Uh and Robbie. You know,
- 1:06:07Speaker 8: it's great to see Connor do this. And I agree
- 1:06:10Speaker 8: with you, Santos, I did pick Winnipeg. I know there
- 1:06:14Speaker 8: was one show, it was either a week or two
- 1:06:17Speaker 8: ago that Scott was asking us who we might think
- 1:06:19Speaker 8: in the playoffs have an extended run or end up
- 1:06:22Speaker 8: in the finals. On the paper, what a pick should
- 1:06:25Speaker 8: do it? But there's that old thing that still bothers
- 1:06:28Speaker 8: so many people. It's called the President's Trophy, jinks. And
- 1:06:32Speaker 8: obviously Winnipeg won the President's Trophy.
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: I think it's the.
- 1:06:35Speaker 8: First time in history. I'm sure it is. But hey,
- 1:06:40Speaker 8: with Connor at the helm, I agree they should be.
- 1:06:43Speaker 8: They should be all the way to the finals. But hey,
- 1:06:46Speaker 8: we know it's the toughest postseason in all of sports.
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: Okay, Candy, what hell do you wear it? First?
- 1:06:53Speaker 6: You know where JB's hat for. If every win's by
- 1:06:57Speaker 6: a goalie is a great achievement, especially in today's NHL,
- 1:07:00Speaker 6: where goalies don't usually play back to back games and
- 1:07:02Speaker 6: the talent level is so much faster and quicker. He
- 1:07:06Speaker 6: had hell of a season. And now if you can
- 1:07:07Speaker 6: stay hot, who knows where his team can end up.
- 1:07:10Speaker 6: NHL players are our NHL playoffs are all about hot
- 1:07:16Speaker 6: goalies at the right time.
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: All right, what's your sake, Candy.
- 1:07:21Speaker 6: We're gonna say the same like anytime you have excel
- 1:07:27Speaker 6: and win as many as as he did from a goalie,
- 1:07:32Speaker 6: that's young, young, goalie. Kudos to him, like that's awesome
- 1:07:39Speaker 6: and hopefully, well hopefully or not hopefully, depending on what
- 1:07:43Speaker 6: team you're rooting for, whether you want to see him
- 1:07:46Speaker 6: have continued success in the playoffs.
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say about this whole thing is this,
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people might let to
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: see this matchup if it ever plays out. How many
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: people wouldn't want to see winnip take on Florida, Paul
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: Maurice's old team. Many thought there was a chance of
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: it last year. I tell you, if you thought the
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: ticket prices were high for Edmonton and you had Connor McDavid,
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: I think one thing that would happen was Paul Maurice
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: is He's gonna have a lot of heart burn over this,
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: facing a team that he decided to leave. But he says,
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: if the Panthers don't win it, and I want to
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: see the Winnipeg Jets win it, you never know, You
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: just never know. I'm just simply throwing it out there,
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: all right. So if we're talking to the NHL, we're
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: doing a lot of hockey tonight, just gonna mention some
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: more fyis and people can call me in on them
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: if they want, and we do have a pun pundit
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: segment buried into this whole hockey show. Connor McDavid becomes
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: the fourth active player in NHL history to achieve eight
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: career one hundred point seasons. He joins the lakes of
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: Marcel Dion with eight, Marie Lemou with ten, and Wayne
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: Gritzky with fifteen. We don't need long answer to this one,
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: but Mike, what are your thoughts about what Conner McDavid
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: just did.
- 1:09:06Speaker 4: Well, He's I mean, he's far and away right now
- 1:09:09Speaker 4: the best player of this generation, and I include Ovechkin
- 1:09:16Speaker 4: and Crosby in the previous generation. Ah, but I don't
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: think there's anybody that can touch him. I mean Matthews obviously,
- 1:09:25Speaker 4: you know he's on a on a on a pace
- 1:09:27Speaker 4: to score a ton of goals in this league. But
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: I don't think he's the dynamic player that McDavid is.
- 1:09:34Speaker 4: I don't think he's the exciting player that McDavid is. Sadly,
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: for the NHL that we've been talking about tonight, which
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: has lots of great markets now in places like Vegas
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: in southern California and Texas and Florida, he's stuck up
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: there in Edmonton, and so most of you know, most
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: of the country, especially on the Eastern seaboard here gets
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: to see him play one time a year in their market,
- 1:10:05Speaker 4: and so it's too bad. I don't think I don't
- 1:10:09Speaker 4: think a lot of people really know as much about him,
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: and it's too bad.
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: All right, Mike Whittaker.
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: The actually apologize guys. It's just bear with me. One
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: secondary seems to be having an issue with Mike.
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: All right, we'll come back to go to George Acorn.
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: Yeh Scott. I agree with what Mike Santo said.
- 1:10:37Speaker 8: I mean, you know, here's here's a guy that you're
- 1:10:39Speaker 8: one of your premier players in your league and he's
- 1:10:42Speaker 8: playing for a team in the middle of Canada. Now,
- 1:10:45Speaker 8: of course, we saw with Wayne Gretzky, and we saw
- 1:10:47Speaker 8: how great the Edmonton Oilers achieved success with Messi A
- 1:10:51Speaker 8: and Gretzky and all the other ones.
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: But this is a little bit different.
- 1:10:55Speaker 8: This is a guy who is undoubtedly one of the
- 1:10:58Speaker 8: top tier players in the league. Gosh sixty four goals
- 1:11:01Speaker 8: just a couple of years ago, and h three hundred
- 1:11:05Speaker 8: and sixty one goals in his career already in seven
- 1:11:08Speaker 8: hundred and twelve games played. Connor McDavid is a is
- 1:11:11Speaker 8: a matinee idol. He should be focused of a lot
- 1:11:14Speaker 8: of teams. But the thing is, just like you said, Mike,
- 1:11:18Speaker 8: is that you know you're see him once a year.
- 1:11:20Speaker 8: You're gonna come to madisonsquare Garden once, You're going to
- 1:11:22Speaker 8: go to Detroit once, You're going to play at the
- 1:11:24Speaker 8: Forum once. So it is difficult to be a star
- 1:11:28Speaker 8: in this league now, especially when you're with a team
- 1:11:30Speaker 8: that is not at one of the market cities, the
- 1:11:33Speaker 8: premier cities, if you will, What what.
- 1:11:36Speaker 4: Would have happened had Gretzky not been traded to LA.
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: Yeah, good question.
- 1:11:46Speaker 4: That trade is given a lot of credit for the
- 1:11:50Speaker 4: expansion of the league into what they called the sunbuilt markets,
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: And people have to realize that Gretzky played more than
- 1:11:59Speaker 4: the second half of his career in the United States,
- 1:12:04Speaker 4: you know, in LA, but obviously also.
- 1:12:06Speaker 9: In New York, in St. Louis.
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
- 1:12:13Speaker 4: That added a lot to the league, obviously, but it
- 1:12:16Speaker 4: added a lot to his legacy as well, because once
- 1:12:22Speaker 4: that happened and he had all the he had all
- 1:12:24Speaker 4: the Stanley Cups behind him at that point in time, Right,
- 1:12:28Speaker 4: I mean, he won all the Stanley Cups up at Edmonton,
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: but it was the second half of his career.
- 1:12:34Speaker 9: But everybody in the US really got.
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: A chance to see him, and that's probably what he
- 1:12:38Speaker 4: did the most good for the sport and the league,
- 1:12:42Speaker 4: was his second half of his career.
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'll say this much. The one thing
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: the NHL has going for at the NBA, doesn't You
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: don't ever worry about load man event in the NHL,
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: these guys played through practically everything. In the NBA doesn't
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: play through anything, so you don't have to worry about
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: load management the NHL. These are the most peerson athletes
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: I've ever seen that really worked as hard as they
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: can and get paid lesson to these other guys in
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: the league. So I just hope that Toner McDavid does
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: win a Stanley Cup championship at some point. All right,
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: back to Mike Whittaker. Then we go to Jacob and
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: then we go to the Candy JV combination.
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: Well, I think we saw it McDavid's greatness on display
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: there the other night. The other night against the Los
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: Angeles Kings with his UH pretty much single handedly taking
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: over the third period UH for the Oilers. Unfortunately that
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: game did not end well for them, and obviously Edmonton
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: Vans are extremely upset with their goaltending today. But McDavid
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: just continues to be just completely on another level. We
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: can see how much he cares about winning, especially after
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: his uh, you know, his his his tiers in the
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: locker room after losing Game seven to the to the Panthers.
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: I think that really sticks with a lot of Oilers fans.
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: They can see his devotion to his craft and he
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: he he truly is on another level, and it would
- 1:14:04Speaker 2: be cool for the game to see him win the
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: Stanley Cup at some point. But I mean, I guess
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: we could open Pandora's box and wonder whether or not
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: it's going to be with the Oilers though.
- 1:14:17Speaker 7: All right, Jacob, if you'd never watched one single solitary
- 1:14:23Speaker 7: hockey game ever and your first game, I've watched thousands,
- 1:14:27Speaker 7: you know, and I've done all that kind of stuff.
- 1:14:29Speaker 7: But I'm just saying that if a person hasn't and
- 1:14:31Speaker 7: they watched that tournament to the USA Canada Final and
- 1:14:35Speaker 7: they watched all that, first thing they would see if
- 1:14:39Speaker 7: you look at that is Connor McDavid flying down the
- 1:14:42Speaker 7: middle of the ice, realizing that's a star right there
- 1:14:47Speaker 7: out of everybody that we see. It was a wonderful game.
- 1:14:50Speaker 7: But you just take one look at it. You could
- 1:14:52Speaker 7: just tell things. When someone's a star, you give them
- 1:14:56Speaker 7: a point, you could just say, you can just tell
- 1:14:58Speaker 7: their movement, their there are uh, their confidence connorc David
- 1:15:03Speaker 7: has it in more and you brought up yourself, George
- 1:15:05Speaker 7: three hundred and sixty four career goals already.
- 1:15:07Speaker 5: That's ridiculous.
- 1:15:08Speaker 7: I mean, I mean we were thinking, without a shadow
- 1:15:12Speaker 7: of a doubt, no one's catching Wayne, and no one's
- 1:15:15Speaker 7: will catch his points regardless, but no one but ob
- 1:15:20Speaker 7: catches Wayne's goals. And the way that McDavid's going and
- 1:15:24Speaker 7: that Wayne's will be third, the way that that's going.
- 1:15:28Speaker 7: But far the biggest thing is as far as will
- 1:15:33Speaker 7: we win it with Edmonton and everything like that. This
- 1:15:36Speaker 7: isn't Peter Pocklington anymore. This isn't that kind of deal
- 1:15:40Speaker 7: by itself. It's like more than just that team has
- 1:15:43Speaker 7: their kind of issues whatsoever.
- 1:15:45Speaker 5: By itself.
- 1:15:45Speaker 7: It's such a changed league that I mean, we've watched
- 1:15:49Speaker 7: thirty for thirty and what happened with Wayne? You know
- 1:15:52Speaker 7: what I'm saying, we've seen it, we know the whole
- 1:15:53Speaker 7: story by now, just to touch a different time, I
- 1:15:57Speaker 7: think he wins it, but it's like, is it with
- 1:15:59Speaker 7: Edmonton fifty to fifty?
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Interesting point, Mike, it's the problem with the camera. Let's
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: get it figured out accord in there. I just want
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: to make sure that everything school on your own, all right,
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: Let's go to Candy.
- 1:16:13Speaker 9: And jb Okay.
- 1:16:15Speaker 6: So as for me, I think since I'm not as
- 1:16:21Speaker 6: big of a hockey fan as some others on this panel,
- 1:16:23Speaker 6: especially knowing that people are talking putting him and talking
- 1:16:29Speaker 6: about him in the same sentence as Wayne Gretzky tells
- 1:16:34Speaker 6: you what kind of a player he is, because Wayne
- 1:16:38Speaker 6: is known for everybody, anybody that knows anything about sports knows.
- 1:16:44Speaker 6: Wayne Gretzky's name is synonymous with hockey, and so to
- 1:16:47Speaker 6: be putting Connor McDavid's name in the same sentence means
- 1:16:51Speaker 6: he's a great player, means he's very and he's been
- 1:16:55Speaker 6: very off. He's had a dominance on the offensive side.
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: I do.
- 1:17:01Speaker 6: I did watch some of the finals last year and
- 1:17:04Speaker 6: saw and I've seen some of his games. He is
- 1:17:07Speaker 6: a great player and he's good for hockey because he's
- 1:17:13Speaker 6: just because he's so good, because he seems like an
- 1:17:17Speaker 6: all around good player. He's good for what's good in hockey. Now,
- 1:17:21Speaker 6: as far as JB's comments, is there any question he
- 1:17:24Speaker 6: is the best on the ice at the moment. Would
- 1:17:27Speaker 6: love to see him play for the Stanley Cup and
- 1:17:29Speaker 6: get the ratings up. Think he is what the NHL
- 1:17:32Speaker 6: needs to draw in eyes and become more relevant.
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: All right, I'm kind of the last here. Most goals
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: all the time, including the playoffs. Top ten. I want
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: each and everyone you to size up this list. Okay,
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: we'll start off with Mike Wayne Gretzky has one thy
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: sixteen goals, Alexovetska say nine sixty sixteen, counting forty, Hall
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: eight sixty nine, Red Hull eight forty four, alng with Yarmer,
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: Yagur same number eight four before, Mark Messi eight O three,
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: Phil Esposito, can't he put that picture up there? I'm
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: proud of this one seven seventy eight. There's a good picture.
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: When I was up there recently. I'll be in front
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: of his statue and Emily, what I mean, what a
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: nice statue to be in front of Bill, Phil mary
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: O Lemeue seven sixty six, these Iserman seven sixty two,
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: and Marcel Dion seven fifty two. Basically enough, all of
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: Dion's points were with the La King, so he never
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: made it to the postseason with the Red Wings. All right, Mike,
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: size up this list. What do you think about this group?
- 1:18:30Speaker 4: I mean, obviously elite performers and elite playoff performers, but
- 1:18:36Speaker 4: I think there's a difference between say, Brett Hall and
- 1:18:41Speaker 4: Alex Ovetskin who scored goals, and Wayne Gretzky and Mario
- 1:18:47Speaker 4: Lemieu that did so much more in the playoffs than
- 1:18:50Speaker 4: just score goals. And and you can go down the list, right,
- 1:18:54Speaker 4: I mean you put I'd put Eisenman in on the
- 1:18:58Speaker 4: on the side with Gretzky and the mu right.
- 1:19:00Speaker 9: Uh Esposito.
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: Uh not as.
- 1:19:07Speaker 4: A better a better complete player than most people gave
- 1:19:11Speaker 4: credit for, but still known as the guy that's going
- 1:19:13Speaker 4: to put the puck in the net.
- 1:19:15Speaker 9: So I mean that's how I size up the list.
- 1:19:17Speaker 4: There's there's guys in that list that there's no doubt
- 1:19:20Speaker 4: they could score goals, but there's also guys on the
- 1:19:22Speaker 4: list that did so much more during the playoffs than
- 1:19:24Speaker 4: just score goals.
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: All right, Mike, how do you size up the list?
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: It's obviously he's very very difficult to when you talk
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: about the intangibles of certain players that we that you
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: were just discussing there. Obviously, player like Alex Ovechkin is
- 1:19:42Speaker 2: gonna be known for his goal scoring, whereas a player
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: like Wayne Gretzky played an all around game. Obviously, his
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: amount of assists alone, who would put him in first
- 1:19:52Speaker 2: place in any NHL history just for points, And so
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: maybe some of these players are regarded as a bit
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: more one mentioned. But you know what, what Ovechkin was
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: able to accomplish this season by tying Gretzkien goals. I
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: don't think anybody ever thought at the time that that
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: record would be broken. Then you have a guy like
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: kind of like you mentioned Yar Mary Yager, who not
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: only consistently scored, but was his longevity was just legendary.
- 1:20:20Speaker 2: Not I believe he's even still playing at the age
- 1:20:23Speaker 2: of fifty or or you know however old he is
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: in his native homeland right now. Obviously, you have the
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: greats that people around here that where George and I
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: are are greatly familiar with. Obviously, like Steve Eisman. Like
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: Gordie Howe, Marcel Dion did play in Detroit and albeit briefly,
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: but went on to enjoy more of a more notable
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: career with the Los Angeles Kings. But yeah, just every
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: every player on that on the list that he gave
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: is great in their own way. Some excelled that different
- 1:20:55Speaker 2: things better than others. But it's really hard to stack
- 1:20:58Speaker 2: up great and it's more than more than those names there.
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: We'll turn over to George Well.
- 1:21:06Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, well obviously in Detroit. Yeah, Gordie how I
- 1:21:10Speaker 8: think you said, Scott is number three on the list.
- 1:21:13Speaker 8: And the thing that strikes a lot of us about
- 1:21:15Speaker 8: Gordy is, obviously Gordy was not afraid to muck it
- 1:21:19Speaker 8: up and give you an elbow getting your Gordi how penalty.
- 1:21:25Speaker 3: I mean, a hat trick, as they as they label it.
- 1:21:28Speaker 3: You know, I think of him as more of.
- 1:21:31Speaker 8: A complete Okay, don't get me wrong. I'm not taking
- 1:21:34Speaker 8: away from Gretzky and Novechkin. They're great goal scorers and
- 1:21:37Speaker 8: all that, but I mean, you talk about a guy
- 1:21:39Speaker 8: who toughed it out and and and that was Gordi
- 1:21:42Speaker 8: how But then again, all the other great players that
- 1:21:44Speaker 8: you mentioned.
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: It's just phenomenal.
- 1:21:46Speaker 8: I mean it's like this, Okay, you could do well
- 1:21:49Speaker 8: in your career, and you can have great regular seasons,
- 1:21:52Speaker 8: but what you are remembered for most by the die
- 1:21:56Speaker 8: hard fans. I believe how many titles did your team
- 1:21:59Speaker 8: win or how many finals games you played and championships
- 1:22:03Speaker 8: you brought to our team.
- 1:22:05Speaker 3: So I mean you could keep.
- 1:22:06Speaker 8: Bracking up statistics and goals and all that. Now, Vechigan's
- 1:22:10Speaker 8: only got one Cup so far, so and they got
- 1:22:12Speaker 8: a good chance this year. But let's see if he
- 1:22:14Speaker 8: could do it. And he's Washington team. But I always
- 1:22:17Speaker 8: look at it, how did it fit into the master
- 1:22:20Speaker 8: plan of the team, the franchise he's playing for, and
- 1:22:24Speaker 8: going and yeah, going to the finals.
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: Jacob my, I mean you brought.
- 1:22:30Speaker 5: Up Gretzky to Saint Louis.
- 1:22:32Speaker 7: I thought they had it after all those times of
- 1:22:35Speaker 7: watching Detroit take them out all those times, and.
- 1:22:40Speaker 5: Then what happens.
- 1:22:41Speaker 7: Gretzky gives up the turnover and double overtime bang after
- 1:22:47Speaker 7: pretty much after the bet in the clink off the
- 1:22:50Speaker 7: top of the post.
- 1:22:51Speaker 5: I still remember that clink. I was listening to it
- 1:22:53Speaker 5: on the radio it's crazy, and then Gretzky does that,
- 1:22:57Speaker 5: but really overall you I brought up another one. It
- 1:23:01Speaker 5: was one of my favorites, Brett Hall. Never hear it anymore.
- 1:23:03Speaker 5: I never hear that name anymore. And that was one
- 1:23:05Speaker 5: of my favorites ever.
- 1:23:07Speaker 7: And it's like eight hundred and forty four goals and
- 1:23:11Speaker 7: you just think about that for a second. But again,
- 1:23:14Speaker 7: goal scorer, you know, slap shot guy, just like with
- 1:23:17Speaker 7: Al mcguinnis you have all of those you have, I mean,
- 1:23:21Speaker 7: but here's the thing with these points, with the way
- 1:23:24Speaker 7: they're going, and it's such a different game now, and
- 1:23:28Speaker 7: the OBI started something. How much longer before some of
- 1:23:30Speaker 7: these other guys do it and then the pat and
- 1:23:32Speaker 7: the future draft picks do it. How much longer do
- 1:23:37Speaker 7: these records have? I thought that these were going forever?
- 1:23:41Speaker 7: I think Wayne's is it twenty eight fifty? I believe
- 1:23:45Speaker 7: twenty eight to seventy nine or something something like that.
- 1:23:48Speaker 7: I believe that stays just because he did it all.
- 1:23:52Speaker 7: But how much longer do the goal scoring, the all
- 1:23:55Speaker 7: that stuff, any the individual things, How long does that have?
- 1:24:00Speaker 5: I would have thought it then forever?
- 1:24:03Speaker 6: Good kadie, I'm gonna put the JB hat on first.
- 1:24:08Speaker 6: The talent on this list, it's top right either way.
- 1:24:11Speaker 6: Gretzky is the best to lace the skates, followed by
- 1:24:13Speaker 6: Howe and Hull, But that doesn't ever take away from
- 1:24:16Speaker 6: Wevechkin's greatness. To even be included with those names shows
- 1:24:22Speaker 6: that you are a great player. What I'm going to
- 1:24:26Speaker 6: say is there's lists. There's a list for everything. You
- 1:24:29Speaker 6: can list whatever you can list, and a list always
- 1:24:34Speaker 6: has have to have a cutoff point. When you're talking
- 1:24:39Speaker 6: about greatness of players, you're being subjective because obviously you can't. Yes.
- 1:24:46Speaker 6: A lot of times you qualify. A lot of people
- 1:24:50Speaker 6: will qualify by did you win champions were you MVP?
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: Did you you know?
- 1:24:56Speaker 6: Like for football is how many Super Bowl trophies do
- 1:24:59Speaker 6: you have for a quarterback? That determines if you're, you know, elite.
- 1:25:04Speaker 6: But I think those named on that list are very talented,
- 1:25:13Speaker 6: very talented players. But again I think Gretzky, I think
- 1:25:18Speaker 6: some of them stand above and I think there's a
- 1:25:21Speaker 6: little bit of a drop off in that list.
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you a summary of every player where
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: when I think I know in my mind is correct,
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: Lane Gresky was smart took number ninety nine. Why didn't
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: want to wear nine for Gordy? How? I guess part
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: of the thing is I'm surprised he played for as
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: many franchises as he did. Alexovechkin has a goalscoring record
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: that will never be broken Ordy. How what can I say?
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: Mister Hockey owns the name no matter how many of
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: his records are broken, Mister hockey is what it is,
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: and mister Hockey will be known for his loggy as
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: well as his goal scoring process prowess. I should say
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: Brett Hall. Can't believe this, but somebody's actually better than
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: Bobby Hall. And is Brett Hall. Jar Mary Agar another
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: one of those guys, has played into his fifties and
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: as durable as you can believe. And his career played
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: with Florida, played with Pittsburgh, He's played everywhere. I'm just
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: amazed that he's had the dedication to the sport that
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: he's had. Mark Messi, what's he known for the Cups
- 1:26:27Speaker 1: in Edmonton?
- 1:26:28Speaker 9: No?
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: How about the one he won with the New York
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: Rangers and broke that major trout in New York. Bill
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: Lisposito scored seventy six goals back in the seventies. That's
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: uni legal. We talked about the goals that were being
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: scored these days. Let's not forget that Mario Lemue. Without
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: Mary Oleumieux, there would be no Pittsburgh Penguins period. They
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: were bankrupt and they're ready to go. And Mario Olumieue
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: not only Amass's seven hundred and sixties six goals with
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: saves the franchise. Steve Weiserman, we'll see what we'll see
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: if he can get this bill figured out. But on
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: the ice, he was unbelievable and it was good for
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: three Stanley Cups and was a major factor with Tampa
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: Bay Lightning turning into what they are in Marcel Dion.
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: The reason why is that they have that thing to
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: protect the players at Olympia Stadium was because of Marcel Dion.
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: The guy still to me, is one of those players
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: that put Southern California out of the map by playing
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: with the LA Games. That's what I think of them all.
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: There's the top ten list, and I think that all
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: the reasons they stated for him, they all disserve kudos
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. So that we have
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: one more topic, I want to get to hockey wise,
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: and the one that obviously is most interesting for a
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: lot of people in these parts. As the Florida Panthers
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: ended up beating the Dampa Bay Lightning six to two
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: at Amile Arena, Matthew to Chuck comes back his first game, Jacob,
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about what took place down in Tampa?
- 1:27:54Speaker 5: You actually had a I actually had a little thing here.
- 1:27:56Speaker 5: You need to kind of half repeat the deal because
- 1:28:00Speaker 5: getting a storm.
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: Here right now?
- 1:28:01Speaker 5: Say it again?
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: Sure the problem Florida Panthers six Tampa Bay Lightning too.
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: Lightning were actually favorite to win this series. Florida leads
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: the series one and not think about Matthew Chuck breaks
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: his return after being out with an injury from the
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: Four Nations. So give me your thoughts about he signed
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: up the Panthers Lightning series. We know what's going on.
- 1:28:23Speaker 7: Well, the thing about it is the fact that we
- 1:28:25Speaker 7: just talked about Florida by itself, it's like until then
- 1:28:28Speaker 7: to me, they're death favorites just I mean maybe then
- 1:28:31Speaker 7: maybe Winnipeg. But just from that thing, there's no shock.
- 1:28:35Speaker 7: It's like all I'm seeing right now is until they're
- 1:28:38Speaker 7: otherwise we talked about pal Maurice, we talked about all
- 1:28:40Speaker 7: of this. Until they can get beat I think I
- 1:28:44Speaker 7: consider it favorites.
- 1:28:45Speaker 5: That's just truth, Okaya.
- 1:28:50Speaker 2: Mike Whittaker, I think the biggest storyline so far in
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: that series is just how bad Andrea Vezeleski looked. I
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: think the Panthers had less than twenty shots on goal
- 1:29:02Speaker 2: and Vasileski allowed six, which is just unthinkable for him. Obviously,
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: the Panthers got a tremendous boost by getting Matthew could
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: Chuck back second year in a row that they've met
- 1:29:15Speaker 2: each other in the first round of the playoffs, and
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: the Lightning did not take advantage of their home ice
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: during the game. And I mean they're the chance for
- 1:29:26Speaker 2: a reason. That's the Stanley Cup is theirs until somebody
- 1:29:28Speaker 2: takes it from them. And based on their performance in
- 1:29:31Speaker 2: Game one, they they have no intention of letting of
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: letting the Lightning knock them down.
- 1:29:37Speaker 3: So George Kelrn, well, yeah, I mean I think he
- 1:29:43Speaker 3: nailed it.
- 1:29:44Speaker 8: They're Whittaker, they are the champions and until somebody can
- 1:29:48Speaker 8: take them away. Wins thirty one losses during the year,
- 1:29:55Speaker 8: Florida had a really good season, but Tampa Bay did also.
- 1:29:58Speaker 8: This is really to me, it's kind of like unfortunate
- 1:30:01Speaker 8: on two counts. Two counts is that they both deserve
- 1:30:04Speaker 8: to advance in the playoffs. The other count is they're
- 1:30:07Speaker 8: both from the same state, so a lot of the
- 1:30:09Speaker 8: hockey fans are split, and obviously the uh, you know what,
- 1:30:14Speaker 8: the state's going to lose one of their teams rather
- 1:30:16Speaker 8: quickly here. I still think it's going to go seven games,
- 1:30:19Speaker 8: but I think the Panthers have the edge. But I
- 1:30:21Speaker 8: think this is going to be This is going to
- 1:30:23Speaker 8: be a real war, I believe. But I'm giving forward
- 1:30:26Speaker 8: to the advantage of the Panthers, that is to win
- 1:30:29Speaker 8: four games to three.
- 1:30:30Speaker 4: Do you think, Mike, Well, first of all, this is
- 1:30:36Speaker 4: why I'm thankful that the NHL went back to divisional
- 1:30:41Speaker 4: playoffs for two rounds, because untill they did that, the
- 1:30:46Speaker 4: Panthers and.
- 1:30:46Speaker 9: The Lightning never played a playoff series.
- 1:30:49Speaker 4: Right, How great is it now they've both been competitive
- 1:30:53Speaker 4: for one thing, but that they've met so often in
- 1:30:57Speaker 4: the last ten years in the playoffs.
- 1:31:00Speaker 9: That's great for the sport of hockey and Florida.
- 1:31:03Speaker 4: It's great for the rivalry, and it's great in other
- 1:31:06Speaker 4: markets when you can have those matchups. I mean, you
- 1:31:09Speaker 4: guys are Detroit guys, I'm sure you're fond of all
- 1:31:12Speaker 4: those matchups you used to have in the Norris Division
- 1:31:15Speaker 4: back in the days. You have a fighting way out
- 1:31:17Speaker 4: of the division for two rounds, and that's what that's
- 1:31:20Speaker 4: what we have again for the most part with the
- 1:31:23Speaker 4: with the divisional playoffs, and everybody's like, oh, it's not fair,
- 1:31:26Speaker 4: we should line them up one to eight and all
- 1:31:27Speaker 4: this other bs. This is this is what people want
- 1:31:32Speaker 4: to see. This is what makes NHL playoffs so great.
- 1:31:35Speaker 4: And who cares if once in a while the Minnesota
- 1:31:38Speaker 4: north Stars make it to the finals with a five
- 1:31:41Speaker 4: hundred record. Who cares? That being said, I do agree
- 1:31:46Speaker 4: with Florida. I think it's going to be a long
- 1:31:48Speaker 4: series despite what happened in Game one. But what happened
- 1:31:51Speaker 4: in Game one is the Florida pan Panthers played playoff
- 1:31:55Speaker 4: hockey and the Tampa Bay Lightning did not. There's not
- 1:31:59Speaker 4: a lot of space on the ice in playoff hockey.
- 1:32:02Speaker 4: The shots were like twenty one or twenty two to seventeen.
- 1:32:07Speaker 4: Florida Panthers got the better goaltending. They scored three goals
- 1:32:11Speaker 4: on the power play, and they were a much more
- 1:32:15Speaker 4: aggressive and physical team, and that's.
- 1:32:18Speaker 9: How you play playoff hockey. So that's why they went
- 1:32:22Speaker 9: and I.
- 1:32:24Speaker 4: From the physical standpoint, getting kid chucked back.
- 1:32:28Speaker 9: Had a lot to do with that.
- 1:32:30Speaker 4: But they played a better playoff game than Tampa did.
- 1:32:33Speaker 4: They got the goaltending, they scored on the power play
- 1:32:36Speaker 4: three times, and they were the more aggressive and more
- 1:32:39Speaker 4: physical teams.
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: Okay, Candy, so.
- 1:32:44Speaker 6: I'm gonna put my candy head on first. So let's
- 1:32:51Speaker 6: remember to Chuck missed the last twenty five games. Twenty
- 1:32:56Speaker 6: five games of the regular season, so that means there's
- 1:32:58Speaker 6: other people in there trying taking his place. So that
- 1:33:04Speaker 6: means their bench was deeper because they've had the bench
- 1:33:07Speaker 6: players had more time. One of the things to Tuck
- 1:33:10Speaker 6: said is you miss competing. You miss the fans, the energy,
- 1:33:15Speaker 6: the emotion, the battles with the other team, the chirps
- 1:33:19Speaker 6: on your own bench. It's just so much stuff that
- 1:33:21Speaker 6: you miss. He played with so much more energy, and
- 1:33:24Speaker 6: I think because he missed it. One of the things
- 1:33:28Speaker 6: that Paul Maurice said is that to Chuck's impact is
- 1:33:33Speaker 6: as a difference maker. He's got an incredible set of hands,
- 1:33:37Speaker 6: got an incredible gift for the emotional needs of the game,
- 1:33:41Speaker 6: when you need a hit, when you need a big play.
- 1:33:45Speaker 6: He's been great for us and he's been there, so
- 1:33:48Speaker 6: I think him coming back elevated the team that much more.
- 1:33:52Speaker 6: And in playoff hockey, it's the little things that you
- 1:33:55Speaker 6: that give you the edge. You got to do everything right,
- 1:34:00Speaker 6: but I think they played with a little different, better edge.
- 1:34:04Speaker 6: I'm hoping they take the series. Let's see what happens
- 1:34:08Speaker 6: tomorrow night in Game two and now the JB. This
- 1:34:14Speaker 6: should be a fun series and hopefully it becomes a
- 1:34:16Speaker 6: heated rivalry. I like the Panthers and six over a
- 1:34:19Speaker 6: Lightning team that has seen better days.
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: Fair enough, and just a little teaser, we're going to
- 1:34:26Speaker 1: be Mike, just so you know ahead of time, we're
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: going to talk about Steven Stamkos on next week's edition
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: of the Sports Exchange, So I want to bring that up.
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: You didn't have time for it this week, but just
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: a little sum to prepare you for all. I can
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: tell you, Serge, but Rosky's on money goaltender in the playoffs,
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: and until anybody tells me he's not, that's one thing.
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: But this series is definitely going to be a war
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: for sure. I've seen these teams play during the regular season,
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: and the amount of fisticuffs that go on to me,
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: reminds me of that old book. I don't know, Mike,
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: if you ever saw that book Blood on the Ice
- 1:34:58Speaker 1: many years ago, I will give you that feeling. That's
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: what it seems like out there. It days so, but
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: I expect the Lightning to come back stronger. The Game
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: one was a wake up calls about justice now to
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: Lightning get into trouble tomorrow. This thing could be a
- 1:35:13Speaker 1: short series for sure, So we're gonna lighten this thing
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: up a little bit with the Pundit's Pundit segment. Mike,
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: I don't know what it is as a very light,
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: heighted segment, and Pundit's Punnit was the show that Jacob
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: and I and George had a while back. We talked
- 1:35:26Speaker 1: about some other than sports. But because we're bringing you
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: on for the first time since we started the show
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: off on a tough note with Steve McMichael, this one
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: is as softened note as you can get. And let
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: me tell you people, the nineteen year old took his
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: eighty five year old grandmother to a prom because she
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: never got to go to one when she was young.
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: Austin Dennison nineteen of Ohio invited his eighty nine year
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: old grandmother, Dolores. Oh, my goodness, Grandma Sophie, I never
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: went to a prom. But now when I read this,
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: I would have taken you to one. But I still
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: would have worn jeans. I don't believe interested enough.
- 1:36:12Speaker 4: That's me.
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: She wouldn't have cared. I would have taken my grandma
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: Sophie to a prom. Love your grandma Sophie recipes and
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: I thought of this story. I thought of my grandma Sophie.
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: I talked her in a while. Great stuff. All right, Mike,
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: what do you think about that? Would you take your grandmother.
- 1:36:27Speaker 8: To a prom?
- 1:36:30Speaker 3: Sure?
- 1:36:31Speaker 4: I think it's very nice for this guy to take
- 1:36:34Speaker 4: his grandmother and a prom. My question is, what the
- 1:36:38Speaker 4: hell is a nineteen year old doing going to the
- 1:36:40Speaker 4: high school prom. He's still in high school at nineteen
- 1:36:43Speaker 4: years old. That's a little bit of a problem.
- 1:36:48Speaker 3: That's true. Nineteen.
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: I never thought about that.
- 1:36:52Speaker 5: Even worse, if she's eighty nine and still in high school.
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: Goodness, Well, now that you mentioned that, Jacob is your topic,
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: what do you think nineteen. Well, the only way I
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: could think of that is if he missed the deadline
- 1:37:05Speaker 1: in December and he's one of the oldest in his classes.
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: Because I fell a victim of that. I should have
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: graduated high school in nineteen eighty, not eighty one. That's
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: the only thing that comes to mind. But Mike, I
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: breathed up eighty nine versus what nineteen or No. Eighty five?
- 1:37:25Speaker 7: Talk about it? Talk about Robin the Cradle. Let's go
- 1:37:27Speaker 7: to a cut point. But still, but I love it
- 1:37:33Speaker 7: because I was close to my I was close to
- 1:37:36Speaker 7: my grandma too. I was close to my parents, close
- 1:37:38Speaker 7: to everything. I didn't I didn't I'll tell you this.
- 1:37:41Speaker 7: I didn't go to my own personal problem like I
- 1:37:44Speaker 7: went to somebody else's, but I didn't go to my
- 1:37:46Speaker 7: own personal one. So I get to this point and
- 1:37:49Speaker 7: he's probably very close to her. And I love hearing
- 1:37:51Speaker 7: stories like this because there.
- 1:37:52Speaker 5: Weren't a lot. You hear this because we hear too
- 1:37:56Speaker 5: much anger in news. We hear too much anger. We're
- 1:38:00Speaker 5: hearing them where they're stabbing their parents, stabbing their grandparents,
- 1:38:04Speaker 5: they're getting angry, they're doing all this stuff. It's good
- 1:38:07Speaker 5: to see somebody that you just loves, you know, and
- 1:38:10Speaker 5: it's like, now we're getting this point where it's like,
- 1:38:13Speaker 5: let's do a lighthearted deal of the day.
- 1:38:16Speaker 3: What if we ignored some of the.
- 1:38:18Speaker 5: Heat once in a while and started showing more.
- 1:38:22Speaker 7: And that's the one thing I can say with media
- 1:38:25Speaker 7: by itself, if it bleeds, it leaves you've been I mean, remember,
- 1:38:29Speaker 7: by itself, you had all the smoke inside of the place,
- 1:38:32Speaker 7: with the click clack, click clack, click clack.
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: You were in that world.
- 1:38:36Speaker 5: But you were in that world.
- 1:38:38Speaker 7: But the big thing about this by itself is the
- 1:38:42Speaker 7: fact that there seemed to be more respect than there
- 1:38:44Speaker 7: isn't any kind of respect right now. So what if
- 1:38:46Speaker 7: we change things up a little bit. What if we
- 1:38:48Speaker 7: made these affront page a little bit? You know, people
- 1:38:53Speaker 7: will say, oh, it wouldn't make the same money. Maybe
- 1:38:56Speaker 7: not at first, but maybe people get Maybe people either
- 1:39:00Speaker 7: love it so much or they get out because they're
- 1:39:04Speaker 7: so bored, they get out.
- 1:39:05Speaker 5: And touch grass for once. Maybe we need to think
- 1:39:08Speaker 5: of something along those lines.
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: That's why I brought it up tonight, Diaco, this lighthearted.
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: I have other stuff that we can get to, but
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: this one just got to my heart and considering I've
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: had head injuries. At least it took my mind off
- 1:39:21Speaker 1: the head injuries, and go ahead, put the mind on
- 1:39:24Speaker 1: my heart, Candy. You don't have to wait last on
- 1:39:26Speaker 1: this one. This is an unbelievable thing here. I mean,
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: think about the guy. The kid's nineteen, he's taking an
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: eighty nine year old grandmother or a prom. First of all,
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: I never went to a prom, so it doesn't matter,
- 1:39:38Speaker 1: no loss to me. But if I had taken my
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: grandmother or might have thought differently, All right, can't do
- 1:39:42Speaker 1: what do you think?
- 1:39:43Speaker 6: I think it's a beautiful gesture because I think in
- 1:39:48Speaker 6: a lot of things in society, we don't show our
- 1:39:52Speaker 6: elders the respect that they deserve. And to share this
- 1:39:56Speaker 6: special moments like this with a grandmother that had never
- 1:40:00Speaker 6: gone to prom shows a lot of character for a
- 1:40:08Speaker 6: young high school age kid, because, let's face it, in
- 1:40:10Speaker 6: a day and age where a lot of people pick
- 1:40:13Speaker 6: on people, a lot of people bully people, a lot
- 1:40:15Speaker 6: of people talk down to other people, he did a
- 1:40:19Speaker 6: grand gesture that meant a lot to his grandmother. And
- 1:40:25Speaker 6: that's what it's all about. It's all about, it's all
- 1:40:28Speaker 6: about making family happy and doing what you can to
- 1:40:32Speaker 6: help them be happier. So I think kudos to kudos
- 1:40:38Speaker 6: to him on the JB hat. That's what life should
- 1:40:42Speaker 6: should be about, taking care of your family, especially your
- 1:40:45Speaker 6: grandparents as they age. This kid is all class taking
- 1:40:49Speaker 6: his grandmother to the prom and letting her have that experience.
- 1:40:52Speaker 6: Stories like these are the ones you wish the Evening
- 1:40:55Speaker 6: News would lead with the world might be a better placed.
- 1:41:00Speaker 5: Still, get a hat that says jab and right the front.
- 1:41:03Speaker 9: I just put it there.
- 1:41:05Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. That's why I like my
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: book Old School Media Versus News school Media. I believe
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: in bringing this stuff on. All these big news outlets
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: get on my nerve. I'd rather eat my cooking and
- 1:41:15Speaker 1: read some of this garbage, all right, Mike.
- 1:41:21Speaker 2: Uh kind of kind of just building on what everybody
- 1:41:24Speaker 2: else has said. I mean, taking obviously was a very
- 1:41:30Speaker 2: nice gesture, and I'm sure that she appreciated that. And uh,
- 1:41:34Speaker 2: kind of going back to what Candy just said there,
- 1:41:36Speaker 2: it'd be nice if we had more high character people
- 1:41:38Speaker 2: like that in the world, especially especially in the on
- 1:41:43Speaker 2: the younger side of things, you know, I'm I'm sure
- 1:41:47Speaker 2: it was a very very well meaning thing to do.
- 1:41:50Speaker 2: And hopefully he kind of hopefully the person in uh
- 1:41:54Speaker 2: in question here kind of takes that Madra with him
- 1:41:58Speaker 2: for the rest of his life.
- 1:41:59Speaker 8: Here, George, Yeah, I'll just to repeat the echo of
- 1:42:04Speaker 8: the earth sentiments. Most of you said that this is
- 1:42:07Speaker 8: a great thing for him to do, and you know
- 1:42:09Speaker 8: what a throw for his grandma as well. So hats
- 1:42:13Speaker 8: off to this young man and just a quick plug.
- 1:42:16Speaker 8: NBC News has a good News story every Saturday. The
- 1:42:22Speaker 8: guy summarizes all good news that came out during the week,
- 1:42:25Speaker 8: So this is definitely a candidate for that.
- 1:42:27Speaker 3: This is a great story. I'm happy for the kid
- 1:42:30Speaker 3: and grandma.
- 1:42:32Speaker 7: No, I was just saying, George, I'm glad that they
- 1:42:35Speaker 7: do something like that, But just Saturday, I'm like the
- 1:42:38Speaker 7: reasoning I said something along those lines with that.
- 1:42:41Speaker 2: Is what I mean.
- 1:42:44Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe it doesn't make amount of the same amount
- 1:42:48Speaker 7: of money, but maybe long term it either does or
- 1:42:52Speaker 7: it's the idea of people getting out on their feet
- 1:42:54Speaker 7: and meeting others, like getting.
- 1:42:56Speaker 5: Out on grass.
- 1:42:57Speaker 7: That's what my thought process of this is. Media used
- 1:43:00Speaker 7: to be the Lost Leader needs to go back to that.
- 1:43:04Speaker 7: Maybe sixty minutes ruined something, but I'm just going to
- 1:43:06Speaker 7: say that right there.
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: I'll just say sixty minutes is my favorite show.
- 1:43:10Speaker 7: And it is, but just the idea of what they
- 1:43:12Speaker 7: used to do and then be a number one that
- 1:43:14Speaker 7: kind of ruined the idea of a loss leader.
- 1:43:17Speaker 11: Let me tell you some sixty Minutes was the reason
- 1:43:20Speaker 11: I ended up watching the Master Tournament the last round.
- 1:43:23Speaker 11: Bye goodness, we had some good number and by the way,
- 1:43:25Speaker 11: we had some good numbers on that show. Sixty Minutes,
- 1:43:29Speaker 11: to me is something that I could lock into and
- 1:43:32Speaker 11: talk about everything that's right about old school media that
- 1:43:35Speaker 11: you're talking about, good hard new stuff for these reporters
- 1:43:38Speaker 11: asked requests Mike QJ comment on this one already, Santos, Yes, good.
- 1:43:44Speaker 11: So now you can comment about hockey operations.
- 1:43:46Speaker 1: What's the latest update?
- 1:43:49Speaker 4: Not much going on, but we will have a big
- 1:43:51Speaker 4: announcement in probably once two weeks, so stay tuned.
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: Great, we're going to make sure we get it first.
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: So but that' said, we welcome j Yellows back. That way,
- 1:44:01Speaker 1: Candy only has to wear one apple when he's not here,
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: she or the other. So anybody have any quick parting shots.
- 1:44:08Speaker 1: We do parting shots. We don't have them, no problem,
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: We'll wrap up the show with how everybody can get
- 1:44:13Speaker 1: a hold of each other.
- 1:44:15Speaker 5: I'll do mine.
- 1:44:16Speaker 7: I'll do mine, and then I'll do the party because
- 1:44:19Speaker 7: I got we went pat way past I thought. But
- 1:44:22Speaker 7: here's the parting shot. And I'm going to say this tonight.
- 1:44:25Speaker 7: A lot of people I was reading this little deal
- 1:44:27Speaker 7: about AI and our movies and what's going on right now,
- 1:44:32Speaker 7: and there's a lot of people that are in traditional
- 1:44:35Speaker 7: idea of the traditional movie, the traditional television show. They're
- 1:44:38Speaker 7: worried about AI and what it could take over the
- 1:44:40Speaker 7: writing any of that stuff. Here's the thing, and a
- 1:44:43Speaker 7: lot of them are just panicking. And this is the
- 1:44:45Speaker 7: problem that we have with internet because we're on it
- 1:44:48Speaker 7: too much. As people panic, they're not thinking in context.
- 1:44:53Speaker 7: Here's the thing to realize people. It's going to make
- 1:44:58Speaker 7: the independent and the regular movies that we know of
- 1:45:01Speaker 7: even better. It's gonna be because there's gonna be people
- 1:45:04Speaker 7: coming out there. There's gonna be a market for those
- 1:45:07Speaker 7: type of movies, the ones that are written, the ones
- 1:45:12Speaker 7: that don't have any AI, the ones that have a
- 1:45:14Speaker 7: low budget.
- 1:45:15Speaker 5: There's gonna be plenty of that market. It's good, especially
- 1:45:17Speaker 5: what Hollywood's.
- 1:45:18Speaker 7: In trouble right now, it's gonna be a little bit
- 1:45:20Speaker 7: of a war between Marvel and the AI and all
- 1:45:22Speaker 7: that stuff, and the movies that were made way back
- 1:45:25Speaker 7: in the day and the type that you have, there's
- 1:45:28Speaker 7: gonna be that, and the sports is gonna be that.
- 1:45:30Speaker 7: Everything's gonna be that. People panic too much because of AI.
- 1:45:35Speaker 7: Eventually in AI and everything is just gonna be there.
- 1:45:37Speaker 7: We can't do anything about it. But until that point,
- 1:45:41Speaker 7: just realize there's people that are gonna what they call
- 1:45:44Speaker 7: troll and they're gonna want that type of stuff, And
- 1:45:46Speaker 7: then you're gonna want to be in that world because
- 1:45:49Speaker 7: it's gonna be interesting. The movies are gonna be the
- 1:45:52Speaker 7: ones that generate the most right now because you're gonna
- 1:45:55Speaker 7: see a battle and you watch it in the next five.
- 1:45:57Speaker 9: Or ten years.
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: Mike Wig or any party.
- 1:46:03Speaker 2: I guess kind of building on what was just said
- 1:46:06Speaker 2: a moment ago as far as AI is concerned, I mean,
- 1:46:11Speaker 2: I'm kind of split on it, but I think kind
- 1:46:14Speaker 2: of like what you said there, it's going to be
- 1:46:17Speaker 2: developing a bigger presence in our lives, and I think
- 1:46:19Speaker 2: it's just something that most people have to get used to.
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: George any party shots.
- 1:46:26Speaker 3: Well, The only partying shot I have is hats off
- 1:46:28Speaker 3: to the Pistons.
- 1:46:29Speaker 8: A lot of people wouldn't give them a snowballs chance
- 1:46:33Speaker 8: of hell to to even beat New York in Madison
- 1:46:36Speaker 8: Square Garden, and they did in Game two, setting up
- 1:46:39Speaker 8: a return to Detroit now with the series tied one one,
- 1:46:42Speaker 8: So the Pistons are for real, folks, and this is
- 1:46:45Speaker 8: going to be a very interesting series, a seven game series.
- 1:46:50Speaker 1: Might He'll be there tomorrow night, Yes, yes, I will.
- 1:46:54Speaker 1: That's all right, Candy. Any parting shots, I'm not worrying
- 1:46:56Speaker 1: about JB. Whether he has any or not. No matter is.
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: I don't think you set one, and we didn't ask him.
- 1:47:01Speaker 6: I don't think so, No, he didn't. My parting shot
- 1:47:05Speaker 6: would just be enjoy anyone that's attending the NFL Draft.
- 1:47:13Speaker 6: Enjoy Green Bay. Enjoy all of the history and all
- 1:47:16Speaker 6: that it has to offer. There are a lot of
- 1:47:18Speaker 6: things to do there. Even though some people say that
- 1:47:21Speaker 6: there's nothing to do in Green Bay, there's a lot
- 1:47:23Speaker 6: of things that they did for the draft. They even
- 1:47:27Speaker 6: canceled school garbage collection along some of the roads because
- 1:47:32Speaker 6: the roads are shut down for the draft. Isn't happening,
- 1:47:35Speaker 6: So just enjoy the whole experience.
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: Mike, everything on your mind you want to get off
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: your chest, parting shots, anything which parting shots, anything you
- 1:47:52Speaker 1: want to say about sports, or anything that you want
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: to get off your chest. Say anything about.
- 1:47:57Speaker 9: For me. Yeah, oh, I don't know what you're talking about.
- 1:48:01Speaker 4: No, NHL playoffs have begun, probably the greatest time of
- 1:48:07Speaker 4: year in sports. So enjoy the playoffs for the next
- 1:48:10Speaker 4: two months, especially the first round when there's hockey every night.
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: All right, tell you what I have won, and it's
- 1:48:18Speaker 1: a pretty interesting one. I'll give you a good reason
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: to laugh at the New York Jets because they're the
- 1:48:25Speaker 1: only NFL, NBA or mL team to not make the
- 1:48:28Speaker 1: postseason during Pope France's tenure. Get that. In his tenures
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: the Pope the pot div the New York Jets never
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: made the postseason. Oh I'm gay to get that one off.
- 1:48:42Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Pope Francs and more importantly, rest in peace,
- 1:48:46Speaker 1: Steven Michael. Well, that does it for this edition of
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: the Sports Exchange, we welcome Jamie Ellis back. Mike. You're
- 1:48:52Speaker 1: gonna really like this guy. He's one of my partners,
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: so he can talk any sport you want. We have
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: a lot of good things we're going to talk about.
- 1:48:58Speaker 1: Next week I'll be working on no So with that said, Jacob,
- 1:49:01Speaker 1: Christopher know you got to get out of here shortly,
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: so launch everybody know how they can get hold of you.
- 1:49:06Speaker 5: I am here on the Wednesdays. I also do the pun,
- 1:49:10Speaker 5: not on this punt, I'm sorry. I do confidential and
- 1:49:13Speaker 5: I do this show on the Wednesday.
- 1:49:14Speaker 9: Is my big time.
- 1:49:15Speaker 7: I also I'm also working a way back into the
- 1:49:18Speaker 7: acting world and I probably get to start writing against him.
- 1:49:21Speaker 5: Just letting you folks know.
- 1:49:22Speaker 7: So life and I appreciate and I'm good to meet
- 1:49:25Speaker 7: you both. Mike's this is the this is the Mike.
- 1:49:28Speaker 7: This is the Mike and Mike that no one knows.
- 1:49:31Speaker 9: We can just play it that way.
- 1:49:34Speaker 5: So it's good to meet you both.
- 1:49:35Speaker 1: Hey, Jacob, we like to introduce you to a lot
- 1:49:37Speaker 1: of new people. And I'll tell you one thing. Mike
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: Santos has been a long time friend of mine. You
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: talk about relationships, We've been good friends for a long time. Mike,
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: and I'm proud of him. Is my buddy. And Mike
- 1:49:48Speaker 1: Whittaker is a prospect on the rise. So that said,
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: we'll turn over to Mike Whicker, goodnight everybody, all right,
- 1:49:54Speaker 1: can I Jacob thanks for being here all right, Mike Whittaker,
- 1:49:58Speaker 1: everybody knows how they get a hold of.
- 1:49:59Speaker 2: You on Twitter at m Whitaker Underscore eight to nine.
- 1:50:05Speaker 2: I'm gonna be posting start posting a lot more of
- 1:50:10Speaker 2: the work that I do for the Detroit Monitor, which
- 1:50:12Speaker 2: also gets posted on the South Florida's Tribune as well.
- 1:50:16Speaker 2: And like George mentioned, you'll be at the Pistons game tomorrow.
- 1:50:19Speaker 2: I will be there covering on Sunday afternoon for Game
- 1:50:22Speaker 2: four of the Pistons series. Let's hope for a win
- 1:50:25Speaker 2: and email M W H I T A K two
- 1:50:29Speaker 2: at emails dot edu.
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know, Mike Santo's you probably a lot
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: of contact information you want to get out there, so
- 1:50:36Speaker 1: please feel free to put it out there.
- 1:50:39Speaker 4: Just the easiest way to reach me is that m
- 1:50:42Speaker 4: Santos at Hockeyoperations dot org. If you've got anything to
- 1:50:47Speaker 4: do with hockey, there questions about hockey.
- 1:50:50Speaker 9: Let me know.
- 1:50:51Speaker 1: All right, look forward to seeing the next wednesdanight, Mike,
- 1:50:54Speaker 1: We're gonna have another great show. I know we had
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: a lot of topics that we were on last week's agenda,
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: I hadded a couple well more. I'm glad we got
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: all those covered and we're going to be a little
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: more versatile next week, all right, George Iikorn, let everybody
- 1:51:07Speaker 1: know how they get a hold of and then Candy
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: will take us home.
- 1:51:09Speaker 3: Sure there.
- 1:51:10Speaker 8: I write for the South Florida Tribute on the contributor section,
- 1:51:14Speaker 8: and I also have a book out there. Came out
- 1:51:17Speaker 8: several years ago Detroit Sports Broadcasters on the air, and
- 1:51:21Speaker 8: there's a link to that book that Candy puts that
- 1:51:24Speaker 8: link at the end of my columns.
- 1:51:26Speaker 3: Feel free to order a copy.
- 1:51:28Speaker 8: You can reach me at g Corn at yahoo dot
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- 1:51:34Speaker 8: and also on LinkedIn and Instagram and those kind of
- 1:51:38Speaker 8: things as well.
- 1:51:40Speaker 1: Okay, Candy take us home.
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- 1:52:37Speaker 1: All right, I want to thank Mike Santos for hanging
- 1:52:39Speaker 1: with us a little longer than we normally do. But
- 1:52:42Speaker 1: we had a lot to get to and I think
- 1:52:43Speaker 1: he certainly was well aware that we had a lot
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: more as we get to the playoffs of all those
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: conclusions of the regular season next week, we're gonna have
- 1:52:51Speaker 1: five people probably on anyways, and we're gonna be a
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: little bit more versatile with the topics. Just to give
- 1:52:56Speaker 1: you an idea. So with that said, anything she want
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: to add, Candy, you want to talk about the Chicks
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: or anything.
- 1:53:03Speaker 9: Nope, I'm good all right.
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: So with that said, that does conclude this edition of
- 1:53:07Speaker 1: the Sports Exchange. On the thingk Joshua Door and Ralph
- 1:53:09Speaker 1: Williams for their participation in the chat room. So on
- 1:53:12Speaker 1: behalf of George Khorn, Jacob Christner, Candy Eveling, Mike Whittaker
- 1:53:16Speaker 1: and Mike Santos. My name is Scott Morgan, Rot the
- 1:53:18Speaker 1: Motor City mad Mouth. Thank you for joining us on
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: this edition of the Sports Exchange. We will see you
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: next Wednesday night. Every great week, everybody, and enjoy the
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: hockey playoffs, let alone the NBA playoffs and the NFL Draft.
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: Tonight everybody, Hey Ric