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But what about women in the Middle East? | Rantzerker 217 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Coming to you live from deep within a sunny and
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  Speaker 1: radioactive wasteland. We're the survivors of the outright apocalypse, the few,
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  Speaker 1: the brave of the bitchy, once more wading into battle
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  Speaker 1: against the Femi zombie wares with but what about women
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  Speaker 1: in the Middle East? Rancer number two seventeen. I am
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  Speaker 1: your host, Allison, and with me is the indominitable Brian
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  Speaker 1: and she who must be obeyed Karen, So welcome, and
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  Speaker 1: we are going to be discussing a documentary about feminists
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  Speaker 1: in the Middle East and their concerns and whether or
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  Speaker 1: not they're legitimate. What we're really wading into. But this
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  Speaker 1: is the typical you know, every even if everything is
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  Speaker 1: absolutely slanted towards women in the West, Western feminists will
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  Speaker 1: always bring up something that happens somewhere else to prove
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  Speaker 1: that they're still they're still relevant in the West.
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  Speaker 2: I think so much work to be done.
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  Speaker 1: There's still so much work, not the work that they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: We've come very far, but there's so much further to go.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly because women in other cultures aren't living the same
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  Speaker 1: life as women in the richest cultures on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: So the men's issues in those cultures can take a
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  Speaker 1: back burner, even though the feminists themselves aren't actually really
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  Speaker 1: often really not doing anything.
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  Speaker 2: Men's issues in our culture can take a back burner.
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  Speaker 2: So long as there is one one thirteen year old
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  Speaker 2: girl who had the hood of her glitteris snipped off
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  Speaker 2: right somewhere in the hills of Tibet, right we cannot
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  Speaker 2: even think about looking at banning male circumcisions.
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  Speaker 1: If there's even one one thirteen year old girl getting
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  Speaker 1: married to thirty five year old men in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere, even though the customs might be that they
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't. She lives with her parents until she comes
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  Speaker 1: just like eighteen. We don't have to deal with the
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  Speaker 1: pervasive problem of boys being abused in juvenile detention facilities
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  Speaker 1: and probably also in high schools and middle schools.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have to deal with that, or divorce court
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  Speaker 2: in the divorce court. No, no, we don't have to
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  Speaker 2: deal with any of that. As long as there is
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  Speaker 2: one woman who couldn't divorce her husband in Iran without
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  Speaker 2: cause and five centuries ago, collect alimony and be kept
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  Speaker 2: in a house with servants, then.
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  Speaker 1: And we can't. We can't deal with men's issues in
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  Speaker 1: our collection. Essentially, the argument about the Middle East and
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  Speaker 1: other cultures around the world is feminists will use this
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  Speaker 1: argument to say, as long as there exist these problems
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  Speaker 1: over there, even if I am not actually personally advocating
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  Speaker 1: or doing anything about them, that means we can safely
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  Speaker 1: disregard all men's issues in the culture that we actually
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  Speaker 1: live in. And we've had this argument before. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: recently I pointed out that men's issues advocates have to
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  Speaker 1: deal with or men deal with issues that are not
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  Speaker 1: just ignored by institutions, but often perpetuated by institutions, and
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  Speaker 1: not just vague, Oh, there's only like thirty five percent
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  Speaker 1: of women in STEM or Oh, women don't tend to
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  Speaker 1: be politicians, not statistical stuff like this.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, it's kind of like woo woo. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of in the atmosphere. It's not written into law or policy. Right,
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  Speaker 2: And even though the laws and the policies actually encourage
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  Speaker 2: female participation in STEM, right, all those male autists make
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  Speaker 2: women feel a neurotypical, women feel uncomfortable, and therefore it's
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  Speaker 2: it's systemic. It's a systemic discouragement of women from entering STEM.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just like really really, this is where we're at, right,
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  Speaker 2: this amorphous kind of it's it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 2: it's just a vibe, you know, it's just a vibe.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's it's very it's a deterrent for women.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, can compare that? Can you ladies please
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  Speaker 2: grow a pair? Please?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? And compare that to oh, good lord, why is
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  Speaker 1: the announcements not going through the discord? Is something going
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  Speaker 1: on with YouTube? Okay? Whatever? Compare that to the situation
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  Speaker 1: for men. Because while they'll say that there's these vague
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  Speaker 1: sort of wu discrimination against women in stea, there's actual,
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  Speaker 1: like boots on the ground, ink and paper, ink and
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  Speaker 1: paper discrimination against men. And that's what I talk about.
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  Speaker 1: There's there is institutional, legitimate, institutional ink and paper has
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  Speaker 1: a paper trail discrimination against men.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's just like, I mean, this Scotus just struck
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  Speaker 2: down affirmative action, right for just at least in terms
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  Speaker 2: of racial biases and stuff in the admissions into colleges
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  Speaker 2: and universities. Right, you're not allowed to admit a black
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  Speaker 2: students student whose grades are like significantly lower than that
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  Speaker 2: Asian student's grades were, right, and choose choose him on
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  Speaker 2: top over over the Asian one, just to get your
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  Speaker 2: numbers to look better. But in Canada, like, it's still
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  Speaker 2: perfectly legal for the government of Canada when they do it,
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  Speaker 2: when they put up a job posting to say white
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  Speaker 2: males need not apply. Still perfectly legal, right, because our
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  Speaker 2: constitution isn't worth shit, right, They're like, everybody has an
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  Speaker 2: equal right to protection and opportunity, blah blah blah, and
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  Speaker 2: then it's like sub paragraph A accept men, Yeah, well
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  Speaker 2: accept in cases where there's an injustice that is being redressed, right,
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  Speaker 2: or in an equity that's being redressed, right, which means
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  Speaker 2: that women. And then all the case law over the years, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, as as feminists win the case case after
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  Speaker 2: case after case based on this, you know, except but
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  Speaker 2: you know, in our constitution they win all these cases,
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  Speaker 2: and the case law just stacks up, and every single
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  Speaker 2: legal decision says, well, yes, women have are his historically underprivileged.
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  Speaker 2: Women are an underprivileged group. Women are an underprivileged minority,
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  Speaker 2: and therefore it's okay to discriminate in their favor, And
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  Speaker 2: so every single precedent piles one on top the other,
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  Speaker 2: not just saying it's okay to discriminate in favor of women,
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  Speaker 2: but that the basis of that discrimination still exists, even
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  Speaker 2: though every single one of those decisions remedied some of
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  Speaker 2: that discrimination. But it's like it's it's it's like a
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  Speaker 2: giant fucking termite mound of who we legal precedent mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And it's all designed essentially to justify discrimination against men,
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  Speaker 1: which is really convenient because historically men are the ones
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  Speaker 1: who are expected to sacrifice their lives to protect and
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  Speaker 1: provide for the state. So it's just sort of an
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  Speaker 1: extension of that. It's our modern way.
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  Speaker 2: Of lives, well being, health, opportunity, these, you know, everything,
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  Speaker 2: just just just give it up to stand back and
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  Speaker 2: hand it to women. Otherwise you're an asshole.
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  Speaker 1: When is the historical injustice of conscription going to be
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  Speaker 1: put into that historical injustice analysis and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: only men were subject to it at.
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  Speaker 2: Least, you know, you know what's like, what's amazing about
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  Speaker 2: that is it's been Republicans who have largely said, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so if we're going to have selected selective service, we
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  Speaker 2: should probably include women, right, And they're supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: the the chivalrous traditionalists who you know, don't want to
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  Speaker 2: see their daughters in a fox hole and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: But but they're actually the ones who are like, this
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  Speaker 2: is kind of not right, right, And it's the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: the progressives who are like, perhaps the absolutely not we
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  Speaker 2: will get behind getting rid of selective service all together.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, trans women in the military really need
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  Speaker 3: their their career opportunities and their medical care.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, you know, my daughter wouldn't qualify
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  Speaker 2: for the military for any role in the military, just
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  Speaker 2: type one diabetes. You can't be deployed and need to
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  Speaker 2: carry an insulin kit. Like that's just not something that
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  Speaker 2: you can do. If you have psoriasis, you're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: make it into the military. You're gonna be rejected unless
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  Speaker 2: they're really desperate. It's like, but yeah, no, you're on
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  Speaker 2: a lifetime of what they call hormone replacement therapy, which
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  Speaker 2: is not hormone replacement. It's just hormones. M you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's just hormones that cross sex hormones is what
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  Speaker 2: it is. And uh and you're on that every single
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  Speaker 2: day and uh and and like you, I'm sorry if
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  Speaker 2: you need medicine all the time. My husband wouldn't qualify
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  Speaker 2: for the military. He needs to take at least two
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  Speaker 2: pills every day just to stay out of the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, and that's just how it is. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: qualify for the military. I take asthma meds mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And well we're also probably pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Old so well even when I was young.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I probably well, and we should be considered lingering.
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  Speaker 1: So I might have qualified because I I just have
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  Speaker 1: like anxiety depression, you know I.
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  Speaker 2: Yet Oh no, they want you in that foxhole, shell
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  Speaker 2: the fuck out of you and cure you that anxiety,
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  Speaker 2: social anxiety, fuck you nothing yet I.
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  Speaker 1: Have actually gone through. I know, I know it's social
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  Speaker 1: anxiety is different. It's it is, it is. It is
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  Speaker 1: a different beast than that in my experience. Like maybe
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  Speaker 1: maybe if I were directly shot at it might cure
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  Speaker 1: my social anxiety. But apparently having it took one, if
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  Speaker 1: I took one in the ear, yeah I cease to
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  Speaker 1: be I would cease to have any kind of social
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  Speaker 1: anxiety at that point. But I don't know. It's not
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  Speaker 1: an experiment I want to try. Apparently Shay Guevera had asthma,
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  Speaker 1: and when he was in firefights, he would be able
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  Speaker 1: to breathe because of the adrenaline. So maybe I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, epinephrine has always been like a treatment for asthma
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  Speaker 2: and anaphylaxis and and all that stuff. Unfortunately, it's not
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  Speaker 2: that great for your heart.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but because social species are a little bit strange,
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  Speaker 1: we can become much more anxious.
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  Speaker 2: Social social rejection is an existential threat for us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also actually a very real physical threat.
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  Speaker 1: want to just get started?
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  Speaker 6: Sure, let's uh, let's go ahead and get started. So
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  Speaker 6: you haven't seen this, right, you don't know this is
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  Speaker 6: a forty nine minutes long and it's a documentary called
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  Speaker 6: Beyond Borders. Arab feminists talk about their lives East and West.
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  Speaker 6: So I just played for the beginning. I watched some
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  Speaker 6: of it. I didn't get through at all because I
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  Speaker 6: was doing too many things. But yeah, just letting you
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  Speaker 6: know what we're getting into. So here we go.
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  Speaker 7: That's the Greek.
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  Speaker 8: That's agree, get a lie agree.
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  Speaker 9: These are images from the film The Battle of Algiers,
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  Speaker 9: banned in France in the nineteen sixties, its power as
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  Speaker 9: a document of the flourishing liberation wars throughout the region
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  Speaker 9: for women. Those wars were not only a promise of
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  Speaker 9: freedom from colonial rule, but also from female seducation.
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  Speaker 1: When is this documentary?
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  Speaker 10: Out of curiosity, I think it's taken the oh this
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  Speaker 10: this movie?
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  Speaker 5: This video?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah it was, it was. It's from the feminist VHS archive.
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  Speaker 6: So okay, and it's a Canadian Canadian.
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  Speaker 1: What is the title. I'll do a really quick search
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  Speaker 1: on it.
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  Speaker 6: Beyond Borders Arab feminists talk about their lives East and West.
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  Speaker 1: Arab feminists talk about their lives. Yeah, all right, okay,
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  Speaker 1: Well it looks like it is from nineteen ninety nine. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a VHS.
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  Speaker 2: A while ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a while ago. Well, certainly women in Afghanistan
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  Speaker 1: recently gall little screwed. But uh yeah, let's keep going.
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  Speaker 5: All right, we're gonna play some more.
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  Speaker 1: Hasn't gotten to the heat of anything yet, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no's just setting the tone, as it.
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  Speaker 11: Were, Yeah, setting the tone today for women living in
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  Speaker 11: more than twenty sovereign Arab states, the promise remains unfulfilled.
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  Speaker 2: These these are women, These these are women who were
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  Speaker 2: literally singing a nursery rhyme about how uh you chase him,
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  Speaker 2: you chase him in until he catches you, and and
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  Speaker 2: that once he does, he's wrapped around your little finger,
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  Speaker 2: and he's a he's a foolish groom for ending up
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  Speaker 2: married to you like it. It's it's very weird to
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  Speaker 2: say that, you know, people who would sing a song
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  Speaker 2: like that about the other half of the population are
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  Speaker 2: the people under the boot heel of the other half
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  Speaker 2: of the population. A little strange.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing that that occurs.
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  Speaker 2: Like they're trapping they're they're they're singing about trapping men
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  Speaker 2: into marriage, but then they're complaining that marriage is slavery
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  Speaker 2: for women. M m.
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  Speaker 1: But well here's the other thing, Like from what I
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  Speaker 1: remember of Cheeria law. Isn't it much easier for women
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  Speaker 1: to get a divorce then, for example law in Victorian England.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, anybody can get a divorce, yeah, under
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  Speaker 2: Sharia likes as far as I was able to tell
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  Speaker 2: after looking into, you know, the various laws, particularly the
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  Speaker 2: laws of Iran, because I was quite surprised when a
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  Speaker 2: Voice for Man published an article called the myth of
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  Speaker 2: patriarchal oppression in Iran or something like that, Right, So
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  Speaker 2: I looked into the articles of marital law in Iran
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, no, a woman, any man can divorce his
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  Speaker 2: wife just by saying I divorce you three times, right,
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  Speaker 2: And it's like saying it on the record three times,
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  Speaker 2: they're divorced. Right. But if he doesn't have cause, like
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  Speaker 2: legal cause, justification, right, if he just does it on
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  Speaker 2: a whim, he has to support her for the rest
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  Speaker 2: of his life in the in the comfort to which
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  Speaker 2: she has become accustomed, which includes servants, if that's what
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  Speaker 2: she's accustomed to, right, And he has to pay for
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  Speaker 2: her for the either for the rest of her life
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  Speaker 2: or until she remarries. And often these women do not
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  Speaker 2: get remarried, and so they just live off of the alimony,
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  Speaker 2: because the alimony is extremely generous. Right, a woman needs.
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  Speaker 2: She can't divorce just by decree, just by declaring that
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  Speaker 2: she wants a divorce. She can't divorce without cause. But
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  Speaker 2: if she has cause, And there's a wide variety of
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  Speaker 2: things that are just cause for divorce in Iran, including
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  Speaker 2: if he doesn't give her enough sex, if he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get her pregnant or give her a child within the
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  Speaker 2: first five years of the marriage, right, if he's impotent,
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  Speaker 2: if if he has a job that embarrasses her that
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  Speaker 2: that she finds humiliating. Right, these are all just causes
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  Speaker 2: for divorce, in which case she gets her bride gift
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  Speaker 2: and life lifetime of alimony. Right. And the bride gift
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  Speaker 2: is a paper debt for the most part. So I
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  Speaker 2: mean like that the guys from Lebanon that I knew
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  Speaker 2: back when I was working at at the local rib place,
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  Speaker 2: one of them, Alex, he he had just signed the
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  Speaker 2: marriage contract, right, So the betrol the betrothal agreement, right,
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  Speaker 2: which is where the bride gift is decided, and and
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  Speaker 2: it it's a signed contract and therefore it's not exactly
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  Speaker 2: a sin. They're not marri they weren't married yet, but
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  Speaker 2: you could tell he got his dick tugged while he
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  Speaker 2: was in Lebanon courting his wife, right and signing after
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  Speaker 2: he signed that contract, because it's a it's a basically
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  Speaker 2: a done deal, right, and and he he said he
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  Speaker 2: agreed to thirty five thousand dollars, which is more than
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  Speaker 2: a full year of his pay at the time, and
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  Speaker 2: four thousand of it would be in gold coins, paid
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  Speaker 2: up front and you know, on the wedding day, and
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  Speaker 2: then the rest would be a paper debt that if
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: he divorced her without cause or she divorced him with cause,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: he would have to pay within two months, or you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: he'd be in some serious trouble, like legal trouble. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: so it's basically like you are signing up for this
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: for good. It's like it's the ultimate pre nup for
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you know, like that locks men into marriage, makes it
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: so that they they number one, they can't divorce you
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: frivolously unless they're super wealthy. And number two, they can't
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: treat you so poorly that you have cause to divorce them.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Because if he divorces you without cause or you divorce
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: him with cause, you're getting that bride gift, right, whatever's
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: left of it after the upfront payment, and then you're
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: getting a lifetime of alimony. And that's just how that works.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, mean, that's that's one of the things that
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I think women.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Oh when you get custody of the kids until they're
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: age thirteen.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's one of the things that I think. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: this is all automatic. It's one of the things I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: think that women in our culture don't realize, is that
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: all of this stuff takes place in a so atmosphere
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: where men are one expected to provide for women and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: not just their husbands. Father is expected to provide for
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: his daughter. Brothers are expected to provide for their sisters,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you know, sons.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Are to provide for their mothers. And and on top
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: of that, what Alex told me was, oh, yeah, no,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the the the laws under Shariah are so strict as
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: to my obligation to provide, right, he said, like, he
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: has total say over whether his wife has a job
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: and what job she has if he agrees to let
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: her have one, because he bears the entire obligation financially
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: for the household. So if she needs a wardrobe and
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: transportation and daycare, and all of those things so that
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: she can go work some vanity job at a you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: as a bank teller or something like that and pretend
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: that she's independent. He has to pay for her clothes
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and her transportation and you know, all of the eddation here,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: any additional costs that that entails right out of his salary.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: She gets to keep all of her money and to herself.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: She doesn't have to mean, and I'm not saying that
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: women do this. I'm sure that women often, you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: they they would spend their money on their family, but
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: legally they don't have to. Right, Legally, they don't have
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: to provide. And and then you look at you know
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: that the issue with with he told me, if she
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: breastfeeds our children, she can demand a wage from me
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: for that. That's how strict that edict is that I provide
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: all the material needs for the family. If she breastfeed
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: it's our children, she can demand that I pay her
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: a wage to do it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Huh wow. Well, and but this is this is like
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: what I wanted to clarify. Like, we see a lot
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: of women in the West who are now very much
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: complaining about having to work forty hour weeks to maintain themselves,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and they call it wage slavery. Well oh really, yes, yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: who would have thought? Yeah, well, I mean, yeah exactly.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I mean you're spending forty hours a week working for someone.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You don't have any autonomy during that time.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: You have to listen, don't care about them? Them women
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: don't care. They don't care about the actual job, right,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: They're just there to earn the check, right, they don't
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: care about the work. They don't want to improve the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: working environment. They're like ninety percent of women are basically
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: just they're punching a clock, right, and probably a lot
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: of men are too.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, But but they complain about this, and they
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: don't they don't realize that a culture like this, where
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: there's this very strong expectation of male providership for women,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: every single man in a woman's life is expected to
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: provide for her, not just her husband. So if if
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you can't get a job with your husband, you go
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and you get a job with your with your with
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: your father, and it's not like you have to work
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: for him. It's that you go and you live with him.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: He has to provide for you, or you go get
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a job with your.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, my God, you have to be used depending.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: On depending on how much money they make, because if
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: they're extremely wealthy, then you'll have servants.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: So it's like the thing is what I'm trying to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: get at, is you look at this situation and what
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you are liberating these women into is is a the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: expectation that they provide for themselves. So a forty hour
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: a week job, which women in the West are already
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: complaining about that they have to do it. Well, that
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: is the cost if you want to liberate yourself from
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: being paid for by men, which comes with the cost
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of they have to have authority over your life because
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: if they're going to be financially obligated for paying for
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: your life, they need to be able to determine if
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: they are capable of paying for the things that you want.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: R yeah, like and and that is the trade off.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: And they and feminists never look at it in terms
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: of a trade off. Yes, you you are you are
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: under men make the decision what work you do. But
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're the ones who
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: are responsible for making sure you get food and bored
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and you know, living the life that they can afford
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: for you. And it's not just bare minimum it is,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and expected to be commiserate to whatever life they live.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, you're not allowed to dress yourself in
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: silk and your wife in sackcloth.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like so this is but this is
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the trade off, and the trade off is perfectly logical
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and reasonable. If you want to be a woman who
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: lives in this circumstance, you have to you have to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: give your husband the ability to maintain you. And that's it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: So if you want to be maintained by a man,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you have to give your husband the commisserate authority that
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: allows him to do so. That is not oppression. That
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: is a trade off.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Oh man man, I was you know, like I watched this.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I think it was a Vice documentary of all places,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: but you know, back when Vice was still good. But
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: it was about the shipbreaking yards of Bangladesh, right, and
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Bangladesh is largely Muslim and this and you know, any
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: kind of South Asian culture is going to be fairly
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: patriarchal and have similar kinds of rule and customs between
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: men and women and you know, for marriage and things
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: like that. But it was they were looking at this
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: family and the family was a fifteen year old boy,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: two sisters, I think one was older, one was younger,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: and the mother. The father had just died after a
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: beam fell on and a steel beam fell on him
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: in the ship breaking yard, and so the sun had
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: to go work in this ship breaking yard. And this
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: is where they take all these derel liked ocean like
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: cargo ships and stuff. Right, they're like completely wrecked and
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: they just break them down for scrap. Right. It's extremely
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: dangerous work. And these these people in these yards are
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: working without hard hats. They're working in flip flops often, right,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: and tank tops and shorts. They have no protective equipment.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: There's no safe these standards nothing. There is a law
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: saying that children, you know, miners under the age of
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: eighteen are not allowed to work in these yards. But
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: this fifteen year old he was like, well, I have
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: to support my mom and my sisters, So he lied
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: about his age and he got a job in the yard.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: And they're trying to portray this documentary is trying to
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: portray these girls and this mother as kind of like
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: put upon and like really really unfortunate because they're stuck
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: at home and they have to cook for him, they
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: have to present him with some non bread and chickpeas
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: when he gets home from work, right, and it has
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: to be like hot, because hey, he deserves it. And
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: it's like, and I'm thinking to myself, like, yeah, their
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: life is like the whole family's life is a struggle, right,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: But these women are not hard done by because they
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: have to give him some rice and non bread and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: chickpeas when he gets home like that. They haven't have
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: to have a hot meal for him. Like, what the
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: fuck is wrong with you? Are any of them gonna
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: go Like they're legally allowed to go out and work, right,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: they just don't because the only work that they could
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: get sucks almost as bad as the fucking shipbreaking yard.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: You have to feed your workhorse. My god, women are
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: so oppressed.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I know. I'm just I was just like, what the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm thinking, like, what woman would trade
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: places with that boy? None? None.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: If they would, they'd be a very decent human being.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Honestly, if they would, we'd be living in a very
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: different society.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah we would. But it's like they don't take into
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: account all of that. They're always trying to make women
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: out to be victims of things and the other thing
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: is that, of course women are going to be living
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: lives in countries that are not as well off, that
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: aren't as tied to the World Reserve, especially.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: If they're living in the shantytown of that fucking country.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, But they don't they And again, this is
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the distortion that happens when you don't consider the situation
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: for men.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this wasn't This wasn't a family of university professors.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: No, not at all. All right, so shall we watch
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit more. Are you doing okay, Brian? You
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: seem really quiet.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: No, I'm just watching the chat while you guys are talking.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I know better. All right, you're gonna hit play here,
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: we'll just uh.
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: The dedication of Arab women activists are traveling throughout the
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: US bringing the word dead in the Sudan, Gaza, Palestine, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, Algeria.
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: They are fighting for women's rights and they're well versed.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Well, those places are fucked.
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: In the hard lessons women learned in the anti colonial revolutions.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Anti colonial revolutions. That all right, But here's the thing.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: Feminism is a colonizing force. Though it is colonization.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: That's what's hilarious about this. It's like, if you think
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: about it, the women in the West enjoy the lifestyle
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that they get. I mean, we could say that, you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: there's a certain element of meritocracy to it. They just
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: out competed other cultures in terms of well, let's face it,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: war and violence. The West did and established Yeah, they
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: established the world Reserve currency, which is the US and
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: everybody else, all of the other Western nations that are
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: attached to it, because we're not exempt from benefiting from that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: And that was a result of a huge conflagration World
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: War two, World War one, you know, and all of
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the subsidiary wars that fell out of that. So women
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: in the West are the benefit beneficiaries of their men's sacrifice,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and they're the beneficiary of their men's sacrifice subduing the rest.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Of the world.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: So it's really interesting to me to have women from
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the rest of the world go to the West and say, hey,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: we are, hey ladies, hey ladies, fighting the effects of that,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: you know, all that shit that you get and you enjoy. Yeah,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: we're we're fighting that and and oh we have a sisterhood.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: No you don't, there is no sisterhood there and because
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: by definition, the subjugation of these other cultures are what
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: creates the asymmetrical wealth that goes to the West. And
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: again you can say that it's justified or it's just
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: an aspect of human nature, but but that's that's the reality.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: And women in cultures that aren't aren't beneficiaries that that
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: aren't going to have as good a situation, you know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and maybe they will prioritize less vanity jobs or jobs
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that make them feel good versus just the ex social
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: expectation of being supported by the men. The other thing
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: is that when you go to those cultures, you find
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: out that the home isn't of itself a unit of production.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: It's not something that's that isn't that is is a
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: is like optional or insignificant in terms of its economic
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: effect on the on the on the world right that world,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and in fact, often in these places which haven't been
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: attached to like monetary modern monetary systems yet, the home
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: is where most of the products that family consumes are created.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: So and women have control over it, which means they
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: always have a job, they always have education, they always
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: have the means to produce, and they always have the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: means to be respected, which is not true of boys
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and men, who are the ones who end up on
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the street if they're not deemed useful.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: You look.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: But my overall point, just let me finish the point
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: is that the West goes into places like this, it
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: starts creating these little micro loans, and it gets women
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: involved in the monetary system that eventually privileges the West.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: So I'm bringing this up because she's talking about colonialism. Well,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: like you said, feminism is colonialism. Feminism is the foot
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: in the door saying hey, ladies, your traditional role as
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: in many cases the primary material producer of your community
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and your family. Having this secondary, this autonomous form of
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: education and production, your role in that is actually oppression.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: And what you want to do is you want to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: attach to a currency that we control. That's feminism. You're
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: absolutely right, it is colonialism. It is actually predatory. It's
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: it's like it's a currency wars. But on the level
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: of the personal is political and that's what they're there,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: that's what they are exporting. And it's funny to see
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: these women go to these countries, like the Western feminists
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: go to these countries, say hey, get up, give up,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: give up your traditional role for feminism, and it just
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: so happens to reduce your independence and your your economic
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: independence and autonomy and make you more reliant on the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: system that benefits us. Just so happens.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean, but you look at you look
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: at something like the microcosm of North Korea, right, which
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: is like they're they're not particularly engaged in any kind
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: of global anything. Uh, you know, like nobody's making money
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: off of what's going on in North Korea. No Western
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: women are profiting from that. But you look at the
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: system there and they, you know, they were like, well,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: you know, we we've recently seen a this was like
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: years and years ago. I read this big long article
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: recently seen an increase in domestic violence male and female
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: domestic violence in North Korea. Well why why? Okay, because
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: all men in North Korea have to work, like they're
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: forced to. They are assigned jobs, their employer is the government.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Their government decides where they work when they show up,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and their government pays them. Right, the women operate a
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: black market, they operate an underground economy right where they're
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: making ten, twenty, sometimes a hundred times more than their
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: husbands are because hey, the government is so broke that
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: half the time, half the months of the year, these
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: men who have to show up to work every day
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: or go to prison, aren't even getting a cut of paycheck. Right.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: They're not even getting a paycheck, right, They're not bringing
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: any money home. They can't be useful at home, they
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: can't be useful anywhere else. They have to do what
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: the government tells them to do. And then they got
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: these wives saying you're useless, You're just dead weight on
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the family. You're like a pet. Yeah. No, all you
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: do is eat and take up space.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, hopefully that works a little better for my camera.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Tell me if that's working better, Brian.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: Seems fine, Okay, good, Okay, so we play more of
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: the video.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: All right, let's do it.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: I'm cringing a bit of this.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: But the drums and the yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: The music, yeah, and the.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Whole theme of like, no matter what happens, we're always
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: a victim. Yeah, like East or West. You know we're oppressed,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you can you can copyright? Then all right, I'll play
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: East or West the women are oppressed.
• 44:46
  Speaker 12: Mm hmm, don't.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: But what about male circumcisions, because that's also practiced in sa'dan.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I guess that's just a free action. But here's the
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: other thing. Yes, male children are selected for why because
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: you're in a resource depleted area and men create more resources.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: It's as simple as.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: That, and they bring them home, all right?
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: With the sa'dan, the local culture is going to have
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: more of an effect. So the local cultural customs are
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: going to have more of an effect on the treatment
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: of men and women than legal stuff or even economic stuff.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: And who is the one who teaches the local customs?
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, women. Then this is the thing that that feminists
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: just refuse to look at.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Women are children learn sexist attitudes primarily from theirs.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: But also we learn most of our cultural etiquette, especially
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: in cultures where there is a much stronger demarcation between
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: the domestic and men doing work to bring back home. Right,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: So women are the ones who are teaching the cultural
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: traditions of any particular culture, and those traditions, in most
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: places are going to be the strongest determinant of how
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: you're treated, not law, not economics, because you're living in
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: a tribal situation that is dominated by social factors. You know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: once your world. Contrast about two hundred and fifty people.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter what the TV says, what law says.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: What matters is how well you interact with those people,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: how well you uphold their social customs, and what those
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: social customers tay about your treatment. And I'm guessing in
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the Sudan that women aren't expected to protect their tribe,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: women aren't expected to provide for men, and these things matter.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: To ignore them, Allison. Eighty percent of people in refugee
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: camps are women and girls, I mean, and that proves
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: that women and girls suffer way more than men and
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: boys who didn't make it as far as the refugee
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: camp exactly, they didn't survive long enough to get to
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: the refugee camps.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. All right, Moore to Schay Karen, all right.
• 47:45
  Speaker 13: There we got I mean, not this, but.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Because okay, the British colonialists were the ones who told
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: you that that was not okay to cut lop off
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: lady bits from your little girls.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And often it's the women who are performing this
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and enforcing the soci.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Just deciding on their It's the mothers who decide for
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: their sons and daughters.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And and it's like I'm fucking sorry, bitch, but you
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: know you can't complain, Okay, you can't complain. Oh the
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: British colonialists who don't whack parts of their children's genitals
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: off right, Oh, they're the baddies. But you know, they
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: just had one good idea that we shouldn't do this
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: but only to girls. We should only not do this
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: to girls. We can just keep doing it to boys.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: It's fine, hm hmm, Like, yeah, I hate these people.
• 49:09
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's it's.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: So selfish, it's so fucking selfish. It's it's like it's
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: like if you listen to them talk, right, and and
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: then you see that like there is nothing outside their
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: little tunnel vision of like how am I being harmed today?
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: And it really is like that fucking stupid cartoon Bride,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if you can Google search it,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: but it's the one with the woman in the bikini
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: right and the and the sunglasses walking and and the
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: woman in the burka right passing each other on the street, right,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: and they're both thinking, you know, like the ones thinking
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: everything but her eyes is covered? What a horrible patriarchal society,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: and the other one's thinking nothing but her eyes is covered, right,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: what a horrible patriarchal society And.
• 50:04
  Speaker 12: That's that's what.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: All of it is.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: These ladies are gonna get what they want, right and
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: then and then they're gonna be like, uh decided wage slavery.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: We decided we don't want it anymore, and it's your
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: fault man for giving it, giving us what we demanded, Like, oh.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, is that play more I'm.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Gonna have I'm gonna have a heart attack, I think, Yeah,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: all right, okay, what is that?
• 50:46
  Speaker 12: I know I didn't That doesn't mean.
• 50:49
  Speaker 15: I know I didn't accept.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Why ain't.
• 50:54
  Speaker 16: Songs really community de monnaissance?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: And she.
• 51:02
  Speaker 13: Set the fine.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Don't neglected daughters though?
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: No, okay, okay, she's she's the fourth daughter. Then there's
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: a son. Okay, there's finally a son, and they're like, oh,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: fucking thank god, we're not going to be stuck paying
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: for these bitches for the rest of our lives. We're
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: gonna maybe be able to retire.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, we could. We can finally give the responsibilities
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: for these four girls over to his son, you know,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: like and it sort of reminds me of like pride
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: and prejudice a little because they had the similar kind
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: of thing going on where there was a high expectation
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: that men provide for women. And the main family is
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: a family of all girls and they're facing a oh yeah, well,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: they're facing an inherentance crisis because they're part of a
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: region of the UK that I guess is based on
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Salik law instead of Roman or whatever, and it has
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: to go to the next next male heir, which happens
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: to be some distant cousin and and so there's this
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: whole crisis over that, and it's it's because there will
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: be nobody to take care of. What they were hoping
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: is that they would have a son. And all of
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: the girls were also hoping that they would have a son.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: And why were they hoping Why was the whole family
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: hoping that they would have a son so his son
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: would inherit the estate and the daughters could continue to
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: live off of him. Yeah, And it's like, yeah, and
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I guess if I guess if one of the daughters
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: inherited the estate, she doesn't have a social and legal
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: obligation to take care of her sisters.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: So it was a matter like a lot of this
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: has to do with female female competition and reducing it
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: so that you can have a functioning society. Because if
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: a woman doesn't have responsibility to take care of her sisters,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: they're out on their ear. Yea, you know, they're gone.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: She has no obligation to take care of them, but
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a boy does. So why was everybody waiting for a boy?
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Because that boy, as soon as she was born, one manacle,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: two manacles, three manacles, four manacles, manacles on his legs,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: manacles on his arms, manacles on his neck, because of
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: all the expectations that he was going to grow up
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: to abide by, to to provide for others. So as
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: soon as that boy is born, and I'm guessing that's
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: the case in the Sudan as well, manicles aren't getting
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: put on him. Oh, you're expected to take care of
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: your elder sisters. A little got a little bit of
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: a lazy eye, not very good looking. He's probably gonna
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: end up being single for the rest of her life.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Your obligation to take care of her. Oh, your younger
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: daughter's a bit of or your younger sister's a bit
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: of a skank, so no guy's gonna marry her. Your
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: obligation to take care of us. Oh, and we expect
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: to be able to retire at some point, So little
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: timmy your obligation to pay for that. So the boy
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: comes and everybody sharpens the knives because they're gonna get
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: a piece of ham. That is the privilege that you're
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: all like salivating over. Do you want to take up
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: that responsibility? Do you want to take up the responsibility
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: now being the bread winner for your family, making sure
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: every vulnerable person in your family has a spot, has
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: has food and shelter. Do you want that, ladies? Because
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: it looks like now that we've done the experiment for
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: how many generations, women aren't int that they're not interested
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: in being the ones who pay. They're just interested in
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: being the ones who get money. As far as I
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: can tell, because there's no like the dynamics and dating
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: hasn't changed. Men are still expected to pay now that
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: women have their own jobs. They're not like, oh, hey, no,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I can treat him to to steak and beer. You
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: know I can't wait to treat my man to steak
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: and no. You still want money to flow one way.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: We literally have We literally have two days two days
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: of the year. We have Valentine's Day, the men are
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: expected to do everything, and it's a hallmark holiday. It's
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: like a well recognized day. And then there's another day
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: day for men mm hm, and it's called steak in
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: a blow job Day and it's not well known card informal. Yeah,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: they don't sell cards, but taking a blow job day.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: And I'm here to tell you that if you want
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: to make men happy, every other day is staking a
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: blow job day.
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: All right, let's play some more on that note.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
• 56:22
  Speaker 16: See dam pertition minu a, see don qui vive in
• 56:30
  Speaker 16: class sala, the bat in fan batu mer e hoefull
• 56:43
  Speaker 16: Lissa de solo Christian.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Garson, Sorry, lady, stop, what about the battered man? Well,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: why of course did they have well?
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: And also also we don't even.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Get to talk. They're not even here being heard documentary
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: where they are described. And believe me, like if everybody's
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: probably shaking their head. But it's the Middle East. The
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Middle East has a higher level of domestic violence against
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: men than the West.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you look at you look at her, she's
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: just like she's only looking at the fact that her
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: dad beat her mom. She doesn't she doesn't ever say,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: you know, and Okay, I'm gonna sound I'm gonna sound
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: pretty ignorant here in the words of Bilberr. What did
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: that woman do to deserve it? Because not every ass
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: kicken just falls out of the fucking sky, right, yeah,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: all right, So there was obviously some conflict going on
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: in that family between those two people. Right, it's almost
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: we all know from the statistics that more than fifty
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: percent of domestic violence is reciprocal, with women initiating the
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: violence more than half the time. Right, that's seventy percent
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: of domestic violence, pretty much across cultures, seventy percent involves
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: the woman hitting first. So and sometimes that's the woman
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: being the only person who hits, and sometimes she gets
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: hit back. So I'm just saying, all right, I'm just saying,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: she wasn't just they She wasn't just asking for a
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: box of tissues or pointing out a baskin Robbins Hmm.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, Karen, can you move a little bit towards your
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: the the the hallway that uh has that opening.
• 58:52
  Speaker 10: There or it's her right, Okay, a little bit more
• 58:57
  Speaker 10: towards your little bit more towards You're right, Just no, no,
• 59:01
  Speaker 10: not not your camera you or.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: No, I can't kids over a little on the couch.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: No, I've got I've got the boar at bed right
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: here and.
• 59:19
  Speaker 15: Definitely and only not Jeffrey minister.
• 59:25
  Speaker 17: What ma, I'm a center about them? Can he's marjet?
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Can you?
• 59:40
  Speaker 15: Can you call it.
• 59:42
  Speaker 17: Yata have That's the cost of being.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Supported supported, Like, if you want to be supported, the
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: person who's supporting you has to be able to have
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: the means to do so, which means you can't have
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: as much control over your life, you know. And that's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: again we did that in the West, and now women
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: are complaining and actually voting to get rid of work. Yeah,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: because you don't want work. Oh what a surprise you
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: You You basically get rid of men's social and legal
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: obligations to support you. And not just your husband, your
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: brother would have had that obligation, your father, your nephews,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: your sons. You know they were all your male all
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: your male all your your cousins, your male cousins could
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: just hit up be like walk over to oh, man,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: who's just your cousin? Hey, cuz, looks like I'm on
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: my on on the skid row. Looks like you're gonna
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: have to keep.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Me up there, and yeah, yeah, yeah, you got a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: guest room, don't you.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a guest room. And he's pretty much
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: socially or legally obligating. If he doesn't take you in,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: his social credit's gone if he's not legally obligated. So
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: that was the situation that women lived in. They were
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: garren a living guaranteed. And now we changed that. We
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: got rid of all the social expectations and the legal
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: expectations except for husbands. And now women have to work
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: on their own. And suddenly they're starting to say, hey,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: but I don't like doing that. Let's get rid of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: work somehow. The government can just manufacture goods and give
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: it to us because the government is magical.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Guaranteed basic income.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, guaranteed basic income, but.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Not nothing to buy with it. Well, because nobody's doing.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Anywhere, no services to buy, no goods to buy, nothing
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: to buy with it. You know what, we already got
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: basic income. You could just go get some monopoly money.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: There you go, ladies, there's your basic income. You can't
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: buy anything with it, but there you go.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 14: You got it.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all magical thinking, and it's because you got
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: rid of all of the other supports for women. You
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: got rid of that, that social expt. And now women
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: have to go it alone. And they don't like it.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they hate that shit.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they want to make it so magically the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: government is going to construct the ability for them not
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: to work and yet still have money made, be be
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: worth something. Yeah, nobody can do that. Nobody can do that.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know, in Venezuela, it only costs
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five US dollars a month to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: feed an adult person. It's just a real shame that
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: the average salary is one hundred and forty five US
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: dollars a month because nobody's nobody's making anything there.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, let's watch some more.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going about. I'm about to just have a mass that,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: like I won't be able to continue in a few
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: in ites here, So I got to deal with that.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: And I'm.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Just, uh the for some reason, my computer is using
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: power faster than I thought it would, so I have
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: to deal with that. Yeah, like I didn't. Usually my
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: computer manages to work through the entire show, but now
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: it's only at six percent, So I gotta do with that.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you or I can try, but I don't
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: really have a plug in here, so I would suggest
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: just continue on with Karen because she's got more insight
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: into the Middle East than I do, and I will
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: fix this, all.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: Right, all right, okay, well I'll play some more.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 15: Listen.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: Any wait, what's the Algeria and Utopia? Look like this
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: is a new thing.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: I never heard of.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: It sounds calmy.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah right, no ship, oh boy, but you know what
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: this told me. I haven't finished it, but all it
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: really told me is that women are the same everywhere.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: That's what it is.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, ultimately, can fly him in from whatever country,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: whatever corner of the world, doesn't matter.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they they'll be like, Okay, what are you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: going to give me? And then you give them everything
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: they want and then then they come back and say, well,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: what have you done for me lately?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Exactly, they just turn into they just turned into umfufu.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: It's from Eddie Murphy bit no matter what.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 14: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to have Eddy, what
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 14: have you done for me lately?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: No matter what? It's like, we're just gonna.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is daddy? What does daddy get?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Sure? Knocked out that rent all Daddy gets a big
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: piece of chicken.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: Let's play the rest or more of this?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 15: Not if not not on that stick original?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, but okay, how did how did the women fight
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: for the liberation of Algeria? Like did they pick up
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: machine guns? No?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: I think they complained.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you remember, you remember the woman in the blue
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: bra in Egypt, the Egyptian woman in the blue bra, right,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: And it was like this big freaking protest in Egypt,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: and and there were all these men, male protesters, just
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: getting freaking stomped by the police. And then they the police,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: they knocked down this woman in a burka, and one
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: of the cops is just getting ready to stomp on her,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: and but her burka fell open and there was this
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: blue bra, and so everybody realized that it was a
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: woman under there. Like I think that they figured that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: it was like a man in a burka, and because
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: like that's been known to happen. And and so the
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: one cop pushes the other cop who's just about to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: stomp her away, and then they drag her. They drag
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: her away because they're like, oh, she's injured, right, And meanwhile,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: like ten feet away there's like this cop just stomping
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: on a man's head, right, and there's all these other
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: men being beaten, but everybody was like just transfixed by
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: the woman in the blue bra And then like a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: couple of days later, the women of Egypt finally rose
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: up in defiance because yeah, and they marched, and the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: cops just let them. Yeah, the cops just let not
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: just not only did the cops let them, the cops
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: protected them and their march while they marched, to show
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: that the women mean business, right, And and I'm like,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: that's embarrassing. That's really fucking embarrassing, because it's like everybody
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: and like I literally like I had to go back
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: and watch the video several more times because I was
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: horrified by this, right, like this woman right and or
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Berka falls open, and you know, and it's a woman
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: and she's being brutalized and all of this, right, And
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: I went back and I watched it three or four times,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: and I'm and not looking at that, right, but looking
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: at everything else that was going on in you know,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: around meet in the immediate vicinity, and I was like,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, and everybody's freaking out over this because it's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: a woman, and then that the Egyptian government and the
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: UN are like who the UN was like, we think
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: the Egyptian government may be targeting women for brutality. And
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what, like, what universe are you living in?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Like that cop pushed the other couple. Oh fuck it,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: it actually is a woman, a woman. Don't go no,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: don't stomp her, right, And I'm like, you think you
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: think they're like targeting women? And I was just like,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: I was just fucking blown away, Like we are living
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: not in a simulation, We are living in a fog
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: of brainwashing. Yes, and and it like and then every
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: once in a while somebody comes out and says, what's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: actually going on? And every time that happens, I'm just like,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: thank fucking god, somebody said it.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 9: This tour takes place four years after the Gulf War,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: the forgotten. Amid the violence and international posturing, air women's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 9: lives were deeply inadversely affected.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Oh they were forgotten. These women and children, women and children, women.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 9: And feminists about US foreign policy. They come from countries
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 9: racked by war, famine, and oppressive state regimes with oil
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 9: and strategic advantage tied these internal questions to the larger geopolitics,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 9: American interests and local elites find common cause in internal
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: repression from Algeria. VI.
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  Speaker 18: Now with respect to this particular visit, this particular tourist.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 18: Before coming here, I was completely persuaded that the entire
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 18: American community were imperialists, just like all the Americans always
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 18: thought that all of us we were terrorists, which is
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 18: completely false.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 15: There is a cool with you.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: Had to have a subtitles. Can I just jump to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: something else?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 15: And you know, I'm not.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 14: Not accept the Khan speaks up the veil. The k
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 14: speaks up the veil.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Speaks of the veil.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 13: If it is your free choice.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 14: So I just wanted to say in.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: America, so okay, so women arguing with women about the veil,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, like I don't care.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: Seems seems kind of low on my list of things
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: to worry about.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: I I don't want to wear a headscarf. I don't
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: want to cover my arms.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I do it in certain company orthodoxy in particular cover
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: my elbows. But but yeah, no, it's it's like, yeah, no,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: I want to be able to do what I do
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: and like dress the way I want and all that.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: But I mean this, this is just like even the women,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: even the freaking women who are fighting supposedly fighting for
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: their rights, can't agree on what those rights are. Yeah,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: the right to wear a headscarf or the right to
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: not wear one, you know, the right to wear one
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: and not be stared at, or the right to not
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: wear one and not be stared at. And it's just
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: like or judged and and and I'm just like like
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: it fashion. Fashion is not a human right, Okay, it's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: it's just not so uh yeah.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 7: And do you have a lot of people, women and
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 7: men and children that needs this money?
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 9: The emerging Palestine is a place where most people only
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 9: get a trickle of water. How do women like Maha
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 9: abdu Savak run a rape crisis center in the middle
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 9: of occupation, political upheaval, and transition?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: What are the are the problems in Gaza are not
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: uniquely female problems?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: I mean not, you know, like, without getting too involved with.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: The whole.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even want to touch the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Israel Palestine thing. But I'm just going to say pretty
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: sure life is shitty in Gaza for everybody exactly.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: Yes, the also agreement is not, by the way, it came,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: and it came as a result of the Gulf work
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 7: all the time. The West wants something to let the
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 7: people think about, and they don't want the people to
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: think about their real situation, the economical, their political situation.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 13: They're poverty.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 15: They want them now to.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 7: Think this is the fashion to think about fundamentalism, about Hamas,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: about you had Islam, about anything else, but not about
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: their true and real situation.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Well that's.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: Will say.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I have a home to be.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 9: A Surely it is a daily and constant struggle to
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 9: keep focused, to handle Israeli checkpoints, Palestinian national aspirations, and
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 9: were to ensure that equality for women is written into
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 9: the new constitution.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of men there, Yeah, no, and
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: they're they're like, I'm seeing a lot of men saying, like,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: we'll sacrifice our souls in blood.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah you know.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Uh okay, I'm just I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But like
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: this idea that the women are forgotten, It's like, no,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: the women are the perfect fucking foil, right, They're they're
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: the perfect prop Okay. It is like Allison said in
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: that Son of Threat narrative the Ugly Tropes video, right
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: that you know The only messaging that gets you to
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: hate the men of another culture more than they're coming
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: to rape our women is they hurt their own women, like,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: and these feminists are just playing into that entire narrative,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: these supposedly Muslim feminists, right, they're like, yeah, no, our
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: men hurt us. And it's like, well, you know, you
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: might as well just lay out a freakin red carpet
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: for the colonialists then, yeah, because that's how the colonialists
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: always justify. Oh, it's babies being being taken out of
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: incubators and the incubators got stolen. And you know, a
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: fifteen year old girl said that in front of Congress
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: and nobody could find her afterwards or verify her story,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: but she testified that oh they were. They were like
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: there were babies and incubators, premature babies that you know,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: got removed from the incubators, and they stole the incubators.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, no, it was all. It was
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: all a line of bullshit, right, And it's like women children,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: women children, women children, women children, right, and but never
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: women girls and boys. No, no women children, women generic
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: children or women and girls. That's it. That's their prop,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: that's their prop. And that's their justification for doing every thing.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's right, all right.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: How much longer can you go, Karen, because I know else.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: Is coming back?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: No, only about ten more minutes. I gotta have a nap.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Ellison's not here for me to interrupt.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: So not as fun, not as much fun, right, Like.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 6: So male soldiers getting beat up while women look from
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: like relative safety.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, boys there, but like this, the one on the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: one boy there is like maybe fifteen or sixteen something like, yeah.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 14: That's.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: He seems to be fearlessly sassing at that guy.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I know. I know. It's like these
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: women they're like, no, we're not respected yet. They literally
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: let you like cuss them out to their faces and
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: just drive away like I I and see this. This
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: this is why, this is why I got burnt out right,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: It's it's because of ship like this right, Okay, Like
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: I see in my twenty nineteen didn't really help because
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: it was very stressful, but and it was twenty nineteen.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: It was a very stressful year. And then COVID didn't help,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: and then there were other rabbit holes to dive down.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: But but uh, this us this whole idea that like
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: woman is the ultimate victim of everything, right, including what
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: she demanded. Right, she demanded it and it happened just
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: the way she wanted, and she's the ultimate victim. Oh
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: there's Allison.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: He's coming back.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I guess I'll just use this camera.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: Is this better?
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Like you have to adjust the position.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: Get.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Closer, a little bit more to the middle, move.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: Your face down.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Oh there you go.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: All right, I'm back.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Everything is done. Oh you really moved. I figured that
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: would happen once I got away.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Oh no, he skipped ahead of a whole bunch of stuff.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Put the CC back.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: There was there was stuff that was like straight up
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: not even SubTime.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's a closed caption button on the.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: But I don't think it's going to translate from Arab.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Oh you know what, I also forgot to mention that
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: this is a this is a sponsored video. So this
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: particular video, the topic was requested by the Great Indoors,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: otherwise known as Koran Strong. Oh yeah, Koran Strong Strong.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: And he he sponsored He made me, He made me
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: look really foolish in a burko.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Really no, he took that photo.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why people use that photo. Of me
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: fake smiling, right, I was just absolutely miserable and I
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: fake smiled for the camera and then like Sargon used it,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Koran Strong used it, like lots of people have used it.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like, they're like, but it looks nice, and I'm like,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: I'm super fake smiling.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: Maybe that fits. Yeah the burkah what? Okay, Well, okay,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: thank you, thank you much. I don't I don't suspect
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: it's going to work, but.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, So thank you to Koran Strong
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: for supporting this show in this topic. And U yeah,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: let's continue.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: All right, let's continue. I'm just going to set this
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: up again.
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  Speaker 9: This landmark gathering was held in Egypt in nineteen sixty
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 9: one for many Middle Eastern and North African Arab women
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 9: in the nationalist movements. It was a time of optimism. Today,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 9: in Algeria, in a brutal war between the government and
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 9: Muslim fundamentalists, women are being killed for not wearing the
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 9: veil and for taking part in public life. In Tunisia,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 9: basic protections in the law for women are eroding. In Lebanon,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 9: emerging from fractious civil war, like precarious, like in a
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 9: lot of these places.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Killed for having an emo haircut.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 19: Yeah, I don't think the war there is also really
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 19: strict Yeah no, there's there are really strict expectations of
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 19: what men wear.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah no. And you know, like there there was this
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: one uh feminist who you know, got after me because
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: oh well women have to wear these big drapy garments
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: and men can be naked from the waist up in public.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: And it's like yeah, because men are expected to do
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: like hard physical labor outdoors and so in the desert, yeah,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: in the freaking desert, So they're allowed to wear that
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: kind of shit. But generally, any man who with any
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: kind of status is wearing what the Saudi princes wear,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: which is the big long, draping white robes and the
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: and the whatever it is, burnous or whatever the fuck
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: it is. Right, that's what they wear, right, or they
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: wear you know, like very plain clothes. They're not supposed
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: to dress ostentatiously. They're not supposed to have a display bling. Right.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: There's men and women in Muslim countries are expected to
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: dress modestly, right, And for men that means they're not
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: supposed to display trappings of wealth and social status and
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: for women. That means they're not supposed to display their
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: primary asset, which is their body and their sexuality. And
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: that's just how it goes, right, But don't give me
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: this crap about like, oh, men are allowed to go
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: around shirtless. It's like, yeah, because they're working.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're just not not just their flex.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, this is pretty typical. They just don't
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: They don't talk about wait am I muted?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: No I muted? Or no you're okay, what's going on here? Okay, Well,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: they just don't talk about the expectations placed on men
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: or the situation that men are responding to. I mean,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: that's how you create feminism. You just ignore all the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: depredations placed on men, the expectations placed on men, the
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: corresponding obligations placed on men relative to women's limitations. Like,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: you just ignore all of that. You ignore the situation
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: for men entirely. You say, anybody who brings it up
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: as a misogynist and bada boom, you've created an entire
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: fictional universe.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Oh no, your your little equation that you did. You know,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: where you were like X is greater than why where
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: X's women's oppression? And why is men's oppression. Right, and
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: then then you would just ask people, right, you know,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: have you measured why? And they'd be like, well, I
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: measured X, like yeah, and and and it's like, but
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: how can you say that X is greater than why
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: if you have only measured X and never measured why? Right,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Like like what? But they do they do? Just like
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: you remember Charles Climber. No, you don't remember a male
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: feminist during the Hugo Schweitzer days, right, and but he was.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: He was a male progressive feminist, and he he wrote
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: an article you might have remembered the article that claimed
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: and he supposedly crunched the numbers basically meaning he mangled
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: the numbers on false rape accusations and found that any
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: given man in the United States is more likely to
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: be killed by an asteroid than to be falsely accused
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: of rape. You remember that, You don't remember that doing
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: the circulation of all the yeah no, men are actually
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: more likely to be killed by an asteroid than be
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: falsely accused of sexually assaulting a woman. Okay, but yeah, no,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: he he got booted out of the feminist clubhouse because
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: he was creepy. Now he's back, But yeah, no, Like
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: you look at it and it's like you look at
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: their math. Right. You know what he did, You know
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: what he did to come up with that absurd notion.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: He took the entire the number of the entire adult
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: population of men in America, and then he compared it
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: against the number of rape reports in America. And then
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: he applied the two percent statistic right to find the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: false accusation number of false accusations per year. Right, and
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: then he assigned every adult man over the course of
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: fifty years of sexual activity, assigned them one hundred sexual
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: encounters per year on average. Figured that seemed to be
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: a good ballpark number, and compared the per sexual encounter
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: risk of being falsely accused with the lifetime risk of
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: being killed by an asteroid.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wouldn't that also apply to rape too? Like woman
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: is more likely to be killed by an asteroid than rape.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, but I'm thinking to myself, I'm reading this article,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: and I'm saying, you do realize that men who did
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: not have sex have been falsely accused of rape. Like
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: a virgin can be falsely accused, a man who has
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: never had sex can be falsely accused of rape. And
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: it's like, because it's a false accusation, right, sex doesn't happen,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to happen for there to be a false
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: accusation that non consensual sex happened. Like, I'm just like
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking at it. Anyway, he's back and he's
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: chilling for Kamala. He was in the Uh, I don't
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: know if you if you know about the there's the
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: white women white no white women for Harris, right, and
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: then there was the white dudes for Harris. But Charles
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: Climber was on. He was hosting the women for Harris
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: because after he got kicked out of feminism for being
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: too creepy, he decided to transition.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 14: Oh hm hmm.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: And now he's Charlotte Climber's douar.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: Really yeah, oh yeah no.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: And he had he had almost yeah, he had ye
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: had almost as as uh, this as ignominious fall from
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: grace as Hugo Schweitzer did. I mean, like the only
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: thing Hugo Schweitzer had on Charles Clymer was you know, okay, yeah,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: I tried to murder suicide my girlfriend while she was
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: passed out on narcotics, right by blowing up the apartment.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: And then and then I then I drank and drove,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: and no, when when I was like committed to a
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: mental hospital, I went on a Twitter rent and admitted
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: that I had no business teaching women's studies, fucked a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: whole bunch of my female students, and talked young men
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: out of making complaints that they were sexually violated while drunk,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: because hey, it's not really a sexual violation if you're
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: a man. And then oh, and then I drank and
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: drive and a woman that I hurt had to be
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: airlifted to another hospital. She was that badly injured. And
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: now I work at Trader Joe's. So he transitioned careers
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: from tenured women Studies professor to Trader Joe's.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Which presumably he has more experience in or more qualifications for.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, the only qualification he had to teach women's studies
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: was banging as female students and being a borderline personality, bipolar,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: freaking individual in a relationship in a dysfunctional relationship with
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: a woman that he tried to kill.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, but and that wasn't as bad as the guy
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: who transitioned to a woman right, Well, No, no, that was.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: That was probably worse. But this guy, like, there's no resurrecting,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: there's no redeeming of Hugo Schweitzer, right, Like, there's no
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: bringing him back from that catastrophic series of events, right
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: that he brought on himself, Right, Charlotte Climber, The world
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: needs to know that. I don't know whether it's whether
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: it's a man thing or a woman thing, or whether
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: it's just a feminist thing. But for whatever reason, feminists
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: cannot math and they cannot logic, and that article was
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: the pinnacle of mangling of math, logic, statistic right. It
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: was literally like, oh, yeah, no, you have like a
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: thirty times greater chance of being hit by lightning. You
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: have a two times greater chance of being killed by
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: an asteroid than ever being falsely accused of sexual assault.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: Is it a similar math as the math for the bear?
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: You know, for the bear meme?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely, It's like, yeah, no, how many men do
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: you encounter every day? How many bears do you encounter
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: every day?
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, I feel safer around the bear because I've never
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: been attacked by one, right, And I don't know anybody
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: who's been attacked by one. Well, you know what I
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: used to live in bear country, and you know, you
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: negotiated a truce with the bears, right, you know, eight
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: eight twenty five in the morning, they're clearing their way
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: off the sidewalks because the kids are getting ready to
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: walk to school. Right. It was an agreement. It was,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: you know, like they'd rip apart your garbage, they drag it,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: they'd dig up your tulip bulbs and eat them, throw
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: at your door whatever, you know, as long as it
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: was in past eight twenty five in the morning, the
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: truce held, the ceasefire held, right. And but yeah, no,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: these people, these are people who have never ever been
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: within fifteen feet of a bear. I was pregnant one
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: time and fifteen feet from a bear and then my
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: husband was like, go go get back in the car
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: right now because her cubs were twenty feet on the
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: other side of me. Yeah yeah, And I'm like, oh fuck,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: I better get back in the car, right But like, yeah, no,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: like this hole the bear thing, Oh yeah no. Your
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: odds of being attacked by a bear of whom you
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: might be three times in your life within fifteen feet
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: of right, are lifetime risk of being attacked by a
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: bear substantially lower than your lifetime risk of being raped
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: by the twenty thousand men you encounter every week m
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: walking down the street, in the grocery store, at the
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: convenience store, driving in traffic, right, like really really? Oh
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: my god, Oh my god. So you feel safer around bears,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: do you? Yeah? No, you don't, and you know it.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: But you'll make shit up, because hey, if there's any
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: cause worth making shit up, four, it's bashing men.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I got a super child. I should read
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: it before it gets too late from Quran Strong. Oh,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 6: and he gives us five dollars and he says two questions, Brian,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: have you ever mentioned the YouTube channel tick History?
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: If not, he might be interesting to check out. Uh, yeah,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: I've watched him. I like tick History.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: I haven't mentioned him on here because I don't know
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: that it's entirely relevant and towards all of you. Have
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 6: you ever heard of the Adam Sandler movie That's My
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: Boy from twenty twelve, a comedy about how a twelve
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: year old kid got his thirty year old teacher pregnant,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: and the whole courtroom cheers. It's supposed to be a
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: real barrel of laughs. Well, twenty twelve sounds like that
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: was like the Adam Sandler low point maybe, you know,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: like Jack and Jill type of shit.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: Also sounded like the Laturno.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, Mary Kay Laturno.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: Yeh yeah, I forget that guy his name? Oh god,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: peely M.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: I know Bill was like totally on their side.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, chenk Hugar too.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: They always show you what they are.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: Because she was good because she was good looking. Yeah,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: that's right, and that's that's all that matters, you know.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: And and you know, thirteen year old boys are horny, right, so,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: and of course they are like any thirteen year old
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: boy who isn't like springing a boner when he's called
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: up to the blackboard to answer a math question is
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: on puberty bloggers.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, but you're also supposed to protect kids from
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: themselves too.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know, it's the weirdest thing.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: Thirteen year old girls could be pretty hornies as well.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, And they're not allowed to smoke, and they're
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: not allowed to drink, and they're not allowed to like drive,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: and they're not allowed to decide what time their curfew
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: is or make their own dietary choices, and you know,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: eat cake for breakfast and and ice cream for lunch
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: and candy for dinner, and they're not allowed to do
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: all those things because they can't be trusted to make
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: those kinds of decisions about their daily lives. Right, But
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: you know, it's fine if a thirteen year old has
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: sex with a woman in a position of trust, Okay,
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: and yeah, who can who can grade him? Who can
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: give him an A or give him a D in class?
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: And it's totally fine, totally totally also totally fine to
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: to to let them make absolutely life altering, permanent decisions
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: about their bodies.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: But not a tattoo. Got to be sixteen for that, all.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: Right, Shall we try to get a little bit more
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: of this done? A Yeah, this particular set up really
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: bugs me because I got way too much in my face.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: I'm so sick of this ship.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 9: In Egypt, violence between government and fundamentalists engulfs more and
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 9: more public space swept away, whether by progressive or conservative regimes,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 9: are fundamental human rights for women? What these early feminists?
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 6: So you see, Alison, When there is a struggle between
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 6: two factions, which usually involves men dying on both sides,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: the real victims spills out into the public.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, the real victims are the women because they
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: don't get exactly what they want, or not exactly what
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: they want, exactly what they're demanding today, because what they
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: demand today might not be what they want a week
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: from now. This is like, I'm sorry, repeal nineteen. I
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: said it.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: I said it based bring on the cat turd.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 6: All right, let's let's play some more of this. We're
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: almost I think we're gonna there. There isn't a whole lot.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 6: It doesn't get a lot better than this.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this seems about as deep as a puddle.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: It isn't very deep. It's just like stuff is happening
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 6: in these parts of the world.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: And look, women aren't getting their fair share.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's basically the whole It's like forty nine
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: minutes of that.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: It's just like it's just feminist winging in different languages,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: but it's the same winging.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 9: Future.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 20: I started to be a sirect to the system when
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 20: I started to make the link between my profession as
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 20: a medical doctor and economy in politics and sexuality and
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 20: women issues and general issues, et cetera.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: I was born in Egypt.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 12: When it was a British colony.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: Why weren't you just giving your jobs?
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 7: And then.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: Well, she was born in Egypt when it was a
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: British colony, right, that's why she was able to be
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: a doctor.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, probably, Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: I guess all right, let's keep going just a moment.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 20: I was very much fighting in school and when I
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 20: entered the medical college against British colonialism. The Naser came
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 20: the revolution in nineteen fifty two. So I lived the
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 20: revolution of Naser and the nationalization during the sixties and
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 20: the independence of Egypt.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: President Abdel Nasser is Gustavna Morocco's king Boy.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: This was an important pol for LaSure.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 20: Laser died and then Sadad came and said that was
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 20: very much pro capitalism, pro America, et cetera. So he
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 20: shifted the whole policy towards the West, and we became
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 20: a new colony. Sadad encouraged political religion and the politicization
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 20: of religion in politics to fight against the left groups
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 20: and the socialist groups, and he was encouraged by the
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 20: US government. And we found that after Saddad encouraged the
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 20: religious groups, female veiling and circumcision increased, and said that
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 20: was pro America policy. So in a way we become
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 20: more illuminated to the linkage between international politics and sexual politics.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: From all for women apparently, I guess the link between
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: international politics and sexual politics for men is so obvious
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: nobody can see it. Usually when political shifts happen, men die.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: Well, but she's trying to blame like Western values for
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: female circumcision.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, she's trying to blame like.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: No, like if if if if Saddat right on our
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: Sadat was more friendly toward the West, right, any kind
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: of cultural uh great higher uptake of uh female general
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: mutilation would have been in a like a backlash to that,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: mm hmm. Like it wouldn't have been like, oh yeah, no,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: the US is like saying, like in cibulate your freaking daughters,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: you Egyptians. No, no, no, it would have been it
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: would have been done as a backlash to Western influences.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Precisely. Yeah.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, like politics is downstream of culture.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: So basically what we're gonna be, what we're going to
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: be listening to is these tepid insights that are just
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: trying to make.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Now they're connecting dogs that don't actually join up right.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes it's just sometimes it's not a pointalless painting.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just flex of dogs not on the window.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're connecting it here.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, like my neighbor's house across the street
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: looks like an impression is painting, but only because I'm
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: doing it through the dogs, not on the window.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 14: Mmm.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: So what we're saying here is that feminism is dogs
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: not on the window, on the window.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, let's let's uh listen to some more.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 20: In fact, okay to that they say it's the Islamic
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 20: fundamental groups.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 12: Yes, one of them kill So the son killed the fun.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: He created that was killed women most affected?
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: Yeahd was killed, was killed?
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Women most affected? Yeah, but no, here look at this,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: look at let's let's continue to see how she justifies this.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: Was Saddat was killed. Was killed because he was too
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: friendly with the West, and and his friendship with the
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: West is is why girls got circumcised. More because British
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: colonialism and Western colonialism and and specifically.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 10: Said capitalism, which is even capitalism was forunate capitalism.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 5: Was that capitalism leads to female general mutilation?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, on Egyptian mothers who made the
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: decision for their daughters. Yeah no, and it's like except
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: for except for I thought I thought the women weren't
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: part of the capitalist system because they were confined to
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: their homes like I'm but.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: But capitalism emboldens the toxic masculinity of the men.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 6: And yeah women, oh yeah, also versus heteronormativity and other oppressive.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: These hermeneutics are very disappointing.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: All right, let's play some more for as long as
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: my soul cantolerated.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 20: It seems like the Fundam the Islamic groups in the
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 20: US who burned the World Trade Center from where they came.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 20: They were trained by US in Afghanistan, and they came
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 20: to bomb you as who trained them. So the son
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 20: killed the father. So it's a it's a story that
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 20: is repeated in history. So usually we say that the
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 20: political religious groups are the other face of new colonialism.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 20: New colonialism.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: Anti neo colonialism is the face of colonialism. Communism is
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: the face of capitalism. Liberty is the face of imprisonment.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: War is the face of peace or back not fry.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: God damn. Yeah, this is too much female logic for me.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna need a long break just to just
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: to unwind, try to remember that reality exists.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 5: I'm with that.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: I'm with that, you know, I I How do these women,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, how do they need so so stupid,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: so profoundly stupid, so so incapable of actually examining a
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: set of facts and putting them together.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 6: It's just not convenient for them, Like, well, there's also
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 6: so much confidence in what they're saying. Serious, Like look
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 6: at how she's like how she's like her facial body language.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 6: She's just like, I'm about to blow your mind with
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 6: this truth. And she's wearing like what is that a
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 6: Kathy Bates style? Like you know, like I saw this
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 6: on Misery and I'm gonna wear this and and and
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 6: she's just she she thinks that she is spitting fire
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 6: here when she says neo colonialism and religious political fascism
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 6: and all that, it's all just gobbledygood man.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, but what what? Okay, bitch? Tell me what you want?
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: Do you want the Western neo colonialism that would make
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: you free, okay, to go and work as a doctor
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: and make your own money and not have you don't
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: need no man, Okay, And all you don't get one either,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah you don't. You don't frankly, you don't deserve one.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: But or or do you want the religious political backlash
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: against the neo colonialism? Do you want the capitalism? Like
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: if you if you didn't want the capitalism, why did
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: you become a doctor? Right?
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: Where to God? This politics, this politics is just resource
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: wars between conservative women or traditionalist women. I don't know
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: how you want to say it. Who just want to
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: keep You know, my son is obligated to pay for me,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: My cousin is obligated to pay for me. My brother's
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: obligated to pay for me, my father's obligation. They want
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: to you want to have the full field, right, they
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: want to.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Have, but they also they also want to be like,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: but I don't have to do what any of those
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: men tell me.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking about the traditional women who don't want
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: to have to work, which apparently also includes the women
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: now in our society who also don't want to have
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: to work.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, like sixty six percent of full time
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: working women would rather work less or not at all.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so all of those women, and incidentally,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to work if we were in a
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: system where every conceivable male in their life that had
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: any passing link to them was financially responsible for them,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't because they would have an entire baseball team
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: of men to decide upon. Oh who am I going
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: to Who's gonna be supporting me today? Well, not like,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: not quite that frivolous, but you know what I mean.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: And so it's a competition for between women who want
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: to keep that and women like this who want freedom,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: and the men in the middle trying to negotiate both.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah and uh and apparently no matter what, men are wrong.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: So there you go. If you want to be right,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: don't even try.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, men can't. Men can't do right for doing wrong. Yeah,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: they're damned if they do. They're damned if they don't. Yeah,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: damned if.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: They do don't, they're damned if they do. Do don't don't?
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: Well, and the do do is.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: Flying an on fire. Yeah, Okay, I don't know.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: I'm just like I'm looking at this and I'm like,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: like these arguments that they're making are so they're not
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: even surface level. They're not even like looking at the
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: surface and going like you know, oh, you have a fever. Hm,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: maybe you have a virus. Right, Well, maybe it's not
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: a virus, maybe it's something else, right, But but it's
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: like the diagnosis is you have a fever. You're perfectly healthy.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: Oh you don't have a fever. It must mean you're sick,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: you know. Like it's so it's so insanely backwards and wrong,
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: like neo colonialism brought female circumcision to the freaking North
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: of Africa, really really really British colonialism, and then US
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: colonialism brought female circumcision to the Middle East and North Africa. Okay,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: all right, all right.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 6: Uh, let's play a little bit more. I'll just let
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 6: her finish her dire tribe Allison seems to have.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: Yeahs, so well, let's let's play a little bit more.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 12: Yea, the word was a Christian.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 20: Islamic, Jewish Buddhist are two faces of the same coin,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 20: and they serve each other.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: Religion.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: What all religion is bad for women?
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 6: Yes, what she is ultimately saying is that religion is
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: it is the it is how men control women.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: It is the domain of men. I mean, that's what
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 5: she seems to be suggested.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: That's not a broad brush, So all all human, like
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: all human spiritual systems are oppressive of women, all of them,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: all of them like just just they're just.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: All except for Wicca.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: And this and this is real. This is real. This
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: isn't just you saying that I have moral authority over
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: everybody conceivable, throughever and throughout history, because that's sort of
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: what it seems to end up being. Have you noticed that?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, everything is wrong, and I'm the one
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: who's in position to judge it all. Notice how that
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: sort of works.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, that's the purpose of it.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: All right, Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: All right, just a moment he.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 15: Collect collect.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: That's kind of.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 9: Midway through the tour, after visiting different cities, the activists
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 9: meet to compare notes.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 21: And little machine fla and hat. But it will be done,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 21: will be domb.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: It was like, it's sort of like because they're seeing
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: all of this stuff happen, and then men have ideas
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: and then there's revolutions and the war and men die
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: and all this other stuff, and so they're like, oh,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: we want to do something like that. So we're just
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: gonna go around, have tea, talk to each other and
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: it's going to be the same thing.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 6: Oh, you're saying that they're basically like, apparently they seem
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 6: to be very comfortable women that have like enough luxury
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 6: in their life that they can actually travel and meet
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 6: with their friends and go out for lunch or tea
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 6: and complain about their respective societies or like whatever they're
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 6: seeing around them. And they're and they're literally saying here
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 6: like it doesn't matter if it's like what it is.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 5: They're they're saying, oh, there's.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 6: Extremists, extremist Christians and extremist Muslims, and those things are
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 6: exactly the same because.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: Men and also colonialism is the same everything. Everything, everything
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: that men do and everything that we can blame on
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: men is bad.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, basically.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: That's such a tiresome narrative.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: It's kind it's kind of like, I mean, it's it
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: really is the whole. It's the whole thing. This is like,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: this is allis and it doesn't get much deeper.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: No, it's the royal flush.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 10: Mm hmm.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: I guess you're right, man, man, men, men, men in
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: a row.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Suit.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you really could if you don't
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: have to, You don't have to add any detail to
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: any of this. It's always the same thing, always the
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: same conclusion, regardless of.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: The decisions that hurt women. Mm hmm. Yeah. If they're capitalist,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: it hurts women. If they're communist, it hurts women public property,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: if there's the colonialist, it hurts women. If they're isolationist,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: it hurts women if they respect property rights. It hurts
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: women if they don't respect property rights. It hurts women. Right,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: no matter what happens, no matter how it works, right,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: it hurts women and men. Did that, Yep, I had it.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: I got into like an argument with a Twitter feminist,
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: of course, and at one point she said, the only
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: difference between me and you is your private property, and
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: I'm public property. And I read that, yeah, because she's well,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: because she's a liberal, right, and apparently I'm a conservative,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: which and I read that. I'm like, your life sucks,
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: like literally the amount of mental energy you have to
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: put into and this is this might upset people. Caring
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: about men's opinion because you think that they control everything
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: is exhausting. I mean, it's almost like a fourth shift
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: that you've taken on. And I'm gonna explain that now
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: I care about men's issues, but I recognize that men
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: do not have the level of control over my life
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: and the world that this woman thinks they have. So
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: I don't have to be as concerned, you know, if
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: there's men going out and going to like the Freemason
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: meetings or like, well maybe Freemason's the wrong one Water
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Lodge, the Water Buffalo Lodge, I don't have to
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: sit there going what are they talking about? How come
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: I know?
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: It's literally like it's Betty and Wilma snuck into the
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: Water Buffalo Lodge disguised as men, right, and they were like,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: because we want to know, we want to know what
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: Fred and Bernie you're up to at the Water Buffalo Lodge.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: And then they realized, uh, was just stupid juvenile shit.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: It was like that meme where it's like you're wondering
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: where he was when you were texting him, right, and
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: he's like, how can I like throw a bag of
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: like skittles into this fan? Like how big will that make?
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: Or how deep ho hole can can I dig in
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: the in the sand on the beach or something?
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 13: Yeah?
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And it's like, yeah, no, he's not ignoring
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: you because he's with some other woman, right, He's ignoring
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: you because he's found some retarded bullshit that he just
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: needs to find out. He just needs to find out, right.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's the more the more you understand or
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: you give, gain perspective over what men have control over
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: and you know what they actually think about. And even
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: more even when you gain perspective of a recognizing that yay,
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: maybe men do have control over something, but probably dead
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: last on the list is using it to oppress women. Right, yeah, okay,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: so that's maybe peace is about the top thirty and
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: then maybe getting a beer and then women probably doesn't
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: even oppressing women doesn't even register. So I don't have
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: to spend my days worrying about what men are doing
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: or what men are cogitating.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: Because I know to there're up to.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: This woman does. She spends her days, she's I don't
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: know how many hours a day terrified and wanting to
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: control and needing and can you imagine the level of
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: cortisols she lives with daily? You know, it's like it's insane.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like you, you you have you This entire philosophical
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: framework requires so much mental upkeep. I'm sorry. I don't
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: want to get involved. I don't want to have to
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: take on that task. I don't want to do the work,
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: and that's part of it. Maybe I'm just too lazy.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: That's why I became interested in men's issues, because then
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: I would be like, no, I don't have to spend eight, ten,
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: thirty sixteen hours a day worrying about what men do,
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: what men get up to, and trying to control them
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: on the internet and writing screeds and petitioning the UN
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: and all that other shit like that sheer mental load.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 15: That is involved.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I don't need that. You don't need
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: my life.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: I look at other women too, write like and my
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: husband he used to work like in a you know,
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: sort of a local, smallish business about one hundred employees, right,
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: and and he uh he said, you know, like the
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: boss's wives, right, they keep tabs on them, right, Like, uh,
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: Tony's wife is calling him like five times a day, right,
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: just to talk. And I'm like, oh, fuck, Like I
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: never call my husband at work. The only time I've
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: ever called my husband while he was at work was okay, okay,
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: the time I had to call the ambulance. And then
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: there was another time where I, uh, just yesterday when
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: I was going to pick him up and there was
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: like a semi that turned over, rolled over on the freeway,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: and I had to phone him and let him know
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: I was gonna be late. So I phoned him while
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: I was sitting at a red light. And and it's like,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: I I never phone him at work, Like why would
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: I phone him at work? Like yeah, why why?
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: No, it's not even it's not even like keeping track
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: of just your partner.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: Though. It's like literally, yeah, I know, I know, but
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: it's like the mentality expands outward, right, like MIGHT have
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: to keep track. I have to keep track. I have
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: to know what he's doing all the time.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: To control, I have to get I can have to
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: put into position, control and so much energy.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he even says, he even says to me,
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: I have a work wife, right, he has a work wife,
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: and you know, and she's really nice and you know,
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: she's got baby rabies and she's not after his she's
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: not like gonna jump on him and uh and and
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: it's fine. And I'm like, oh yeah, no, Like she's
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: your friend and she's your work wife, and she sticks
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 2: up for you at work and you guys work as
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: a really good team, and she seems really cool. And
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: all of that. And you know she's thirty two and
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: has to get her baby situation sorted out. But you
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: know you're not gonna help her with that because you can't.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: So and she knows that, and so like it's like yeah,
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: but I you know, like I'm looking at it and
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, when did women become so frickin' paranoid?
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: It's like they are paranoid. It's like, I need to
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: know what my husband's up to. I need to know
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: what my kids are up to, my son is up to. Right,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: I need to know everything. I need to know all
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: of it. I need to have a you know. And
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: then then the women get together, right, and the men
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: are thinking, oh, well, you know, she's just getting together
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: with their coffee ladies or whatever, right, and you know,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: I can just have some time on my own to
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: watch the game. And you know what, you know what
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: those women are doing because I used to attend the
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: occasional coffee ladies thing. You know what they're doing. They're
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: talking shit about their husbands. They're talking absolute shit. I
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: have never seen men sit and just bash their wives,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: like sit together and just do nothing but like bad
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: mouth their wives, talk about how their wives aren't worth shit,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: talk about any anything like I've you know, like and
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 2: I've I've been around a lot of men, you know,
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: and and it's not like they're singing their wives praises
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 2: to the freakings. They're not like it's not like a
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: hymnal or anything like that, right, but they're not bashing
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: their wives. Right. Occasionally there's like a thing where like
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: a guy's like, oh God, I haven't seen my wife
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: spussy in like six months, and I don't know how
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: long much longer I can take it, right, And then
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: that's it. It just goes back to football, right, And yeah,
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: but it's it's like women will just and every little thing,
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: Like I knew this woman. She she had a husband. Okay,
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: he got his leg crushed in a mining accident, okay,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: and so he had to quit working for the mine
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: and they rebuilt his leg and he's got all these
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: pins and bolts and shit in it. And then he
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 2: started filling potholes for the town and you know, like
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: mowing lawns, mowing the parks and stuff like that. Right,
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: So he's doing physical he's still doing physical work, right,
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: And but he would leave for work at seven am
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: and she would leave for work at eight am, and
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: if it was frosty before he left, he would scrape
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 2: her cars her vehicle's windows for her and uh and
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: she had nothing but fucking complaints about this guy.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what what, Like, Okay, what is there
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: to complain about?
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: Like, not only is he like five times better looking
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: than you, you're punching up, like seriously punching up. Okay,
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 2: but he does that for you without you even asking, right,
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: And then you're complaining because he took the last of
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: the cream for his coffee and he didn't go out
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: zip out to the store and buy some for when
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: you got home from work, Like.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, But my overall point was not specific to
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: like relationships. I'm talking about just a uh No.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: It's just an geological attitude, a general attitude of ingratitude
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: and suspicions. Suspicion.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: But it's a huge amount of mental load, is what
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: I was trying to get at. You're life with this
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: nonsense complain like you don't need to spend this much
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: time worrying about what men are up to. It really
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: is not necessary, or they are a failure, or how
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: you would choose a bear or Wade Wilson who killed
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: two women instead of the average man. You know, like
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's all just a bunch and the honesty God,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: is that the cognitive load? I wonder if that itself
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: can explain some of the differential and achievement between men
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: and women. The sheer need to control men that women
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: have the focus on trying to control men, that women
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: seem to have, you know, and then they complain about
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: emotional labor.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: Bitch, you spend ten hours a day trying to.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: Figure out how to control your partner, and you spend
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: maybe like well, I really doubt that any of these
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: women really spend any time actually considering their partner's needs.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: But you know, like any woman who uses the term
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: emotional labor, how much time.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: You spend deficits That's what they're considering, not how much
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: time deficits.
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: Having a paranoid thoughts about man or what is in general?
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: Men in general? Do you include that is part like
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: do you which which exceeds the other? Maybe I should
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: put it that way, which exceeds the other? The paranoid,
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: suspicious thoughts you have about your men and men in general,
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: or the loving concerned thoughts that you have about men,
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: Probably not men in general, but you're men. And you
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: dare to say, blame him for the emotional labor of this,
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: and don't know, responsible for the emotion of the labor
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: Oh no, And it's not just the emotional labor of
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: like that. It's the emotional labor of like I'm the
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: one who has to wrap the Christmas presents and do
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: the Christmas shopping and send out the Christmas cards and
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 2: blah blah.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: And you're the one who decided to do it.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you know the last time I went Christmas shopping?
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 2: I think my kids, my older two were still living
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: at home, and my older son gave me his debit
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: card and said, Christmas is on me this year. Just
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: get us all something nice and and and I didn't
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 2: put up a tree. I didn't. I have never sent
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: out Christmas cards ever in my life. Right, I don't
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: like them. They're just garbage. They're like junk mail, right,
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: you know, like you, Christmas is like you go visit
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: your relatives and see them and spend time with them
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: or talk to them on the phone or whatever. You
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 2: touch base with them, like a card is the dumbest, fucking,
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: most wasteful waste of times. Yeah, and I'm just like,
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: you know, people are always asking me because I forgot
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: my son's birthday this month. It was the twelfth, right,
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: and my other son, let's see, it's oh it's his
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: birthday July thirty first. But you know, like and I
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: miss them. I I don't remember them, you know, I
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: don't even remember to text. But it's just like I
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: forget my own birthday. It's like, what a waste of time,
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: What a waste of you know. And meanwhile, I've got
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: these women in my life who are like, you know, uh,
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: you have to let them know what you want for
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: your birthday, right And if what you want is a
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 2: surprise party, just have to you just have to drop
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: a bunch of hints and and then he'll arrange it.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, that's no man that I know,
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: But it is the man that you're married to that
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 2: you complain about all the time, you know.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, just gonna get back to the to the original
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: topic that I brought up. So this this feminist essential
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: said that I'm private property, she's public property because she's
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: a liberal and both you know, liberal men turn their
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: women into public property, and traditional men turn their women
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: into private property. And I'm like, you're giving men a
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: lot of credit over your circumstance, way more than I
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: would give. And what I mean by that is, I
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: don't think men are doing that to women. Okay, No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: That is Sarah is Sarah Palin was her husband turning
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: her into public property, Conservative private property. Yeah, so she
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: was like untouchable in the public sphere. You nobody ever
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: had to criticize her or anything. No, they didn't have
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: any opportunities to do that because she was private property.
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, really really, like, I I know so many
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 2: conservative women who are like highly active in their if
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: not in their immediate community, you know, online, you know,
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: in the public sphere. And it's like, no, like, if
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: you are a church lady. If you're a church lady,
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: your public property. You're interfacing with the public all the time,
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: right if you if you work that ironically named courtesy
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 2: desk at Walmart, your public property.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: But the whole concept is that women can never escape
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: being property of men. And I'm like, I think that's
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: a you problem.
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: That is a U.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: It's a you problem. You you want to take on
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: this cognitive load of paranoia and suspicion. You want to
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: cultivated like your own little personal secret garden of cortisol sucking,
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, or just just you're enjoying marinating your
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: brain and constant cortisol, you know, like that's you.
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 13: No, none of the.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 2: Actually I think they might actually get off sexually on it.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they do.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 14: Maybe.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I might have just walked into somebody's
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: fetish and just started kicking things over. No wonder she
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: had a very negative reaction.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: No wonder if fifty Shades of Gray was the top
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: selling book of all time.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she had to repent of his ways or something.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: But oh, yeah, he's weird.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: We have like a little thing here. It's from Nobafen,
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: so I might as well read it. No Offen gives
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: us one dollar and says, if feminists claim religion is
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: back women because men, what's their explanation for women still
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: pointing the finger at other women and witch burnings men
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: started all sin. Yeah that's a good point, But I
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 1: think everybody's forgotten the fact that the Salem witch trials
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: was because of women accusing, in particular teenage girls accusing
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: other people of being witches. Just they just conveniently forget it.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: And they also forget that it's women who drag their
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: husbands to church, not the other way around.
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, welcome back, Brian. Uh, we have a
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: super chow and I have a thank you to give.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: Let me just double check because I think, you know what,
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: I sense that this is not going to get much deeper.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to be getting any kind
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: of dissertation into.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's not going to be anything more to say.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, basically, yeah, basically, guys, guys, preview the rest
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: of this man bad uh, Conservative man, bad, Capitalist man, bad,
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: Buddhist man bad, Hindu man, bad, Muslim men, bad, Jewish men, bad,
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: Zoroastrian men, bad seek men, bad men, and possibly also
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: alien men we have not had first contact with also bad.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: It just it's just it's just it's it's it's got
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: a little sameness to it, you know what I mean.
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: It's it's pretty condifortable.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 6: It doesn't it does not even require pattern recognition or rhyming,
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 6: you know, like, yeah, it doesn't even rhyme, right, it's
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 6: just the same words.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just the same words over and over again.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 11: Man bad man bad man bad.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to thank the Great Indoors. He
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: did indeed put his sponsorship for you for this for
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: five hundred bucks. So thank you Great Indoors, which means
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: we are thank you. We are done for this month's fundraiser,
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: including the stretch goal. So thank you, Great Indoors. And
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: also I want to give it thank out thank you
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: to Craig C because I didn't before and he did
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: put twenty five dollars through, So thank you, Craig C.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: And I also want of you know, big things to
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: Brian for dealing with all these technical issues and also
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: my camera switching. I I really want to use this
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: one just because it allows me to actually touch my
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: keyboard without having to juggle like multiple things. But uh,
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: but you know, and I know that it might be
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult, but anyways, so thank you
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: to Great Indoors, Thank you to the Craigcy. Again, I
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be much more insight to be
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: had in this particular uh micro nanoparticle deep puddle that
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: we're looking at. I just also wonder did these women
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: ever get bored of this? Actually, I guess this is
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: women's bigging and digging a big hole in the beach,
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: like this is this is this is the equivalent for
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 1: women emotionally of digging a hole in the beach is
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: to just sit there and contemplate how men have done
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: them wrong. Like that's that's there, that's that's there. You
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: know that if you are a man and you imagine
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: just just going to the beach a bunch of bros
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: and maybe some kids, and just lots of shovels and
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: just seeing how how deep you can dig, that is
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: the emotional equivalent of this for women. Apparently, except unfortunately
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: for women, this stuff actually harms people. So I don't know,
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 1: Like it isn't quite digging a hole in the beach.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: It's more like something much more toxic and dangerous. Like
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: constantly constructing these threat narratives around men is not as
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: benign as the things that men get up to generally,
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, Yeah, entertainment, this is not benign behavior. Yeah,
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: I guess this is this is gilgament before in kind
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 1: of behavior. Yeah, okay, all.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 2: Right, maybe it's time for women to grow up.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's time for women to find their inky do
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 2: That means, all right, the heroine's journey.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what we talked about yet on Monday
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: and the maid Ladies, and it's time to move on.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 6: Neuroticism that's pointed at men should be pointed at your kids.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know, that's probably where it's supposed to be directed.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's possible.
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, all right, anyway, go ahead, Yeah we know.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: Uh, okay, So Coron Strong has a final super chow
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: so you might want to get you want to read it?
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: Or shall I read it?
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 5: I read it?
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 6: Okayn Strong gets this five bucks and says, related to
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 6: this topic, I would still like to request Holy Spider
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 6: for HBr movie Night. It would be a nice case
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 6: study into how the West basically makes propaganda the misogyny
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 6: happening in the Middle East through intellectual, thought provoking art
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 6: house movies.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 5: Thank you for that.
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I will, I'll check it out. I mean, I'm
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm sure that uh for that. It's you know,
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 6: it is exactly as you say it is. Our man
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 6: gave us a super chat for five bucks and says,
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 6: good to see you again, Karen, you too as well.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 6: Alison and Brian, Well, I'm glad to have been have
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 6: made your list of people, that is you're happy to see. Well,
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 6: it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just hiding under the blanket's too much
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: these days.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, well at least you think it. Can
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: you occasionally see Karen here. Yeah, it's been like, honestly,
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: the last four years have been somewhat unsettled. Yeah, harrowing,
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: just surprisingly huh. But we're here, we're still here, we're
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: still doing things, so that's good, all right.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 5: So well, just drink water, guys, Yeah.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: Just drink water, exter, stay hydrated, exercise, meditate.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 5: We're gonna make it.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: We're gonna make We're gonna make it. We're all gonna
• 2:21:13
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• 2:21:15
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• 2:21:19
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• 2:21:25
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  Speaker 1: the posters. I think that I'm I will be fulfilling
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: the posters for anybody who wanted one this month. But
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: I think I will probably have to think about this
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: really like we're still we're still working on it, but
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• 2:23:01
  Speaker 22: Men's right activists are machines, dude, Okay, they are literal machines.
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 22: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 22: deal with, especially if you have, like especially if you
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 22: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 22: On top of that, too, holy shit, you're fucked