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Sharri | 17 September · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why On Sky News, this is Sharry Good Evening.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show tonight.
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Speaker 1: The Labor Party in panic mode after polling shows Dutton
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Speaker 1: could win the next election.
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Speaker 2: Well it turns out he.
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Speaker 1: May not be as unelectable as the PM hoped. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: Penny One refuses to rule out supporting a pro her
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Speaker 1: Musk motion at the United Nations. I'm going to get
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Speaker 1: stuck into this in a minute.
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Speaker 2: And an ABC.
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Speaker 1: Executive today has refused to apologize to Heston Russell for
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Speaker 1: doctoring a video in a report accusing.
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Speaker 2: Him of war crimes.
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Speaker 1: This as new claims emerge of fabricated evidence that arrogance continues.
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Speaker 1: Also on the show, a cover up to avoid implicating
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Speaker 1: a public figure. That's the damning findings of a review
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Speaker 1: into the Daniel and Catherine Andrews twenty thirteen car crash. Well,
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Speaker 1: one of those in the probe will break down these
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Speaker 1: revelations shortly plus, Donald Trump breaks his silence.
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, we heard juds being fired in the.
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Speaker 1: Air, the former president speaking candidly about the second attempt
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Speaker 1: on his life. But first tonight, a legendary labor figure
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Speaker 1: and the business community are today accusing the Albanese government
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Speaker 1: of losing its way. Tonight, as we speak, the business
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Speaker 1: community is delivering a damning verdict on the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 1: saying he's taking our country backwards with a deteriorating economy.
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Speaker 1: In a major speech tonight, the Business Council of Australia's
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Speaker 1: Bran Black says Australia is losing its way thanks to
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Speaker 1: Labour's workplace laws and industry regulation.
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Speaker 3: My message receiving is that wish key that is real
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Speaker 3: and all Australia's already feeling in consequence. You be one
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Speaker 3: of the twelve hundred plus businesses that close their doors
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Speaker 3: if there an equidation in July. You feel that if
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Speaker 3: you are the employees of those businesses, and you feel
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Speaker 3: if you're in Australia, worry about future.
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Speaker 1: And his sentiment was echoed by the trailblazing Bill Kelty,
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Speaker 1: who has made scathing remarks about the current Labor Party
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Speaker 1: to leading figures. At a private lunch, he said, what
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Speaker 1: we do not need is a self congratulatory government telling
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Speaker 1: people they have really cared and looked after them. Pretty
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Speaker 1: strong for the man described correctly by the Finn Review
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Speaker 1: as one of the architects of Australia's modern prosperity. Well,
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Speaker 1: this all comes after the Mineral Council of Australia Chief
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Speaker 1: Tanya Constable's attack last week on Labour's IR laws, which
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Speaker 1: she called reckless. She said they were bringing conflict to
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Speaker 1: the workplace. Well, both Anthony Alberizi and Jim Chalmers are
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Speaker 1: in the room tonight as the Business Council ramps up
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Speaker 1: its political attack on the government ahead of.
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Speaker 2: The next election.
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Speaker 1: Already this election is shaping up to be highly competitive.
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Speaker 1: Labour had long dismissed Peter Dutton as a serious challenger.
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Speaker 1: They shrugged him off as too unpopular to be elected.
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Speaker 2: But now his tough.
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Speaker 1: Exterior and his policy convictions seem to suit the times.
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Speaker 1: He's exceeding voters and Labors expectations and a Dutton minority
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Speaker 1: government certainly isn't out of the question. The seemingly never
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Speaker 1: ending cost of living crisis is hurting families and the
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Speaker 1: business community. And in his speech tonight, well here's what
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Speaker 1: Bran Black said.
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Speaker 3: He should rather feeling confident in that growing posterity.
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Speaker 4: Many CEOs feel so we are losing our way instead
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Speaker 4: of taking the beaches on things that matter. Who's having
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Speaker 4: incremental but noticeable in such a giving its setbacks.
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Speaker 3: And this shouldn't be smissus talking Australia down. He's abilify
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Speaker 3: holsown membership that we can and must do earth for
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Speaker 3: the same future generations.
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Speaker 1: Now representing Corporate Australia, Black said there needs to be
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Speaker 1: cuts to regulation, more flexible workplace laws, simpler planning laws
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Speaker 1: for new projects, a more efficient tax system and that's
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Speaker 1: just the start. Political editor Simon Benson writes that it's
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Speaker 1: taken the Business Council long enough to work out that
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Speaker 1: the Albanese government's political agenda was not favorable to economic activity.
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Speaker 2: They have now finally.
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Speaker 1: Woken up and it's come at the same time as
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Speaker 1: trade union legend Bill Kelty's intervention.
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Speaker 2: He was that Labour needs to dramatically reshape.
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Speaker 1: Its economic agenda to lift productivity, and he's criticized the
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Speaker 1: Albaneze government for well, as he says, having no plan
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Speaker 1: and to revitalize a near stagnant economy. He's critical of
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Speaker 1: high personal income tax brackets and the effects of bracket creep.
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Speaker 1: He says people are not impressed by politicians telling them,
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Speaker 1: or at least implying that a tax cut has fixed
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Speaker 1: their problem paying bills, especially a tax cut that leaves
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Speaker 1: them paying more tax than.
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Speaker 2: They were two years ago.
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Speaker 1: And Kelty paints a realistic picture of the dwindling Australian gene.
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Speaker 1: He says for a great number of people, they face
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Speaker 1: a world of renting, not home ownership, total marginal tax
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Speaker 1: rates including GSD of over fifty percent, and jobs in
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Speaker 1: which the real value of their wages have declined. Radical
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Speaker 1: policy decisions taken across industrial relations, foreign policy, national security
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Speaker 1: and environmental laws are now coming home to roost for
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister, and they well may very well cost
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Speaker 1: him the next election.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 1: Now to revelations, the Bayner administration is putting pressure on
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Speaker 1: alban Easy to oppose an extreme pro Palestinian motion at
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Speaker 1: the United Nations that calls for Israel to immediately withdraw
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Speaker 1: from Gaza. Now, to be clear, this motion demands an
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Speaker 1: unconditional withdrawal from Gaza. It calls for sanctions and travel
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Speaker 1: bands on Israelis and a ban on armed sails to
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Speaker 1: the Jewish State. It also supports global boycotts on Israeli companies.
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Speaker 1: That is just simply racist and anti Semitic. It can't
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Speaker 1: be described as anything other than pro Hamas. And yet
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Speaker 1: again this demonstrates how the United Nations is a discredited
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Speaker 1: body that no longer protects the very people it was
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Speaker 1: created to act as a guardian over this UN motion
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Speaker 1: would mean forgetting about the hostages and allowing a terror
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Speaker 1: group to remain in control, free to commit massacres of
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Speaker 1: Jews over and over again. It's absurd that the Americans
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Speaker 1: have to pressure Australia to vote down this UN motion.
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Speaker 1: Australia was once a sound and rational, reliable international partner
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Speaker 1: that could be relied on to be a friend of Israel.
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Speaker 2: Now no longer.
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Speaker 1: Now Pennywang hasn't said whether Australia will support this or not,
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Speaker 1: but that it's even a consideration is unthinkable. She declined
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Speaker 1: to comment today when we contacted her office. The coalition's
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Speaker 1: position is that Albanezi and Penny Wang should categorically oppose
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Speaker 1: this UN motion and really this is a statement of
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Speaker 1: the obvious. But here was Shadow Foreign Affairs Minister Simon
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Speaker 1: Birmingham on Pete Stefanovick this.
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Speaker 2: Morning and he made the point.
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Speaker 1: That this is a one sided motion that the government
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Speaker 1: just shouldn't support.
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Speaker 5: It is a motion that would be deeply counterproductive to
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Speaker 5: long term peace efforts. And it's an entirely one sided
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Speaker 5: motion that makes no mention at all of Hamas of
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Speaker 5: the horrors and atrocities committed back on October seven last year,
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Speaker 5: or of the hostages who have now continued to be
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Speaker 5: held for almost a year.
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Speaker 1: And importantly, Birmingham pointed out how Australia is now becoming
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Speaker 1: out of step with our closest international ally, the United States.
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Speaker 5: The decision for the Albanesi government should be clear cut.
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Speaker 5: That should be to oppose it, to stand with friends
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Speaker 5: in allies, and to continue to support long standing bipartisan
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Speaker 5: policy in Australia about how we ultimately negotiate a two
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Speaker 5: state solution for Israel and the Palestinian people.
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Speaker 1: Now, Colin Rubinstein, who'll join me here on the show tonight,
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Speaker 1: he says the UN motion and support setting up an
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Speaker 1: international Commission of inquiry that would effectively dismantle Israel as
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Speaker 1: a Jewish national home. He calls this an ultra extreme motion.
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Speaker 1: He says it would be the ultimate reward for terrorism,
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Speaker 1: turning October seven into a victory for Hermas and Colin
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Speaker 1: Rubinstein says mass murder, rape and torture would not be punished. Instead,
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Speaker 1: they would become the successful Palestinian tactics that prompted the
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Speaker 1: international community to attempt to impose via coercion all the
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Speaker 1: extremist demands of the Palestinian leadership. It's bewildering how terrorism
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Speaker 1: has come to be excused by the international community, and
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Speaker 1: it's a sad indictment on the United Nations. The very
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Speaker 1: organization set up to protect Jews in the wake of
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Speaker 1: the Holocaust, it now perpetuates anti Semitism and acts as
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Speaker 1: a vehicle for bloodthirsty terrorists and evil regimes like Iran
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Speaker 1: seeking to dismantle the Jewish state.
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Speaker 2: How has this come to pass?
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Speaker 1: As I said, I'll be speaking with Colin Rubinstein about
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Speaker 1: the UN vote later in the show, but now let's
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Speaker 1: bring in our regular Tuesday panel, former Speaker of the
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Speaker 1: House Bronn Bishop and Sky News host Caleb Bond.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 1: Look, I want to start by getting your reaction to
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Speaker 1: the news. It's unfolding as we speak the Business Council dinner,
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Speaker 1: the fact that the Business Council is now turning on
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Speaker 1: the Albanesi government.
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Speaker 2: Brunwan.
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Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty two, Albanesi promised he was going
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Speaker 1: to be a pro business prime minister. Well it's taken
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Speaker 1: the BCA a long time to realize.
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Speaker 2: That that's actually not the case.
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Speaker 6: Well, Alberzi made a lot of promises, didn't he before
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Speaker 6: he's elected. I don't think one of them has been
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Speaker 6: delivered except to the trade unions. That's the only promises
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Speaker 6: he's delivered in So I'm very pleased to see that
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Speaker 6: the Business councilor is finally coming to its senses, dare
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Speaker 6: I say, and realizing that this government is absolutely in
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Speaker 6: their not in their interest at all. And I think
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Speaker 6: they're making a strong case. And I watched Albanezi's response
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Speaker 6: to the draft being leaked out and getting the points
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Speaker 6: coming out, and I can only describe it as pathetic.
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Speaker 6: I mean, he stands there when people are hurting, when
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Speaker 6: inflation is still sticky, when people are being talked about
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Speaker 6: of losing their houses, and he talks about for each other,
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Speaker 6: lowering the cost of childcare and free medicine or words
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Speaker 6: to that effect, and people just listen to these words
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Speaker 6: as if he's proud of what he's achieved, which is nothing.
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Speaker 6: So it is important that the Business Council will come
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Speaker 6: out and say that what you're doing is destroying this country.
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Speaker 6: Two surpluses charmbers.
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Speaker 1: Start and by the way, comments supported by Bill Keilty absolutely.
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Speaker 6: Remember well, bro I do remember well, and I do
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Speaker 6: remember that he and Bob Hawk with their accord was
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Speaker 6: aimed at stabilizing and brings them wages claims down so
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Speaker 6: that you could beat inflation and start to have people
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Speaker 6: have faith in the ability of their door to buy
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Speaker 6: the things that they need. All we're doing now is
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Speaker 6: with the wages chasing infletion is people have more money
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Speaker 6: in their pocket, but it buys lets, it can't pay
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Speaker 6: the bills.
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Speaker 1: It's a very different labor government what we're seeing today
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Speaker 1: from the whole Keeting era.
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Speaker 7: You know it was very different and understatement speak well, this.
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Speaker 1: Is a radical left government. You know, it's not mainstream
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Speaker 1: at all. Even under Kevin Rudd, labor was much more mainstream,
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Speaker 1: Caleb correct.
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Speaker 7: And you know the fact that the Business Council is
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Speaker 7: speaking out. I mean fights between business and labor are
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Speaker 7: not a new thing. But what it indicates is a
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Speaker 7: lack of business confidence right now, and a lack of
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Speaker 7: business confidence ultimately leads to less investment and less employment.
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Speaker 7: And that will be the biggest issue for the government here.
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Speaker 5: Potentially.
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Speaker 7: One of the things that's been spoken about tonight at
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Speaker 7: the dinner is the collective bargaining multi employer bargaining that
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Speaker 7: has come in as part of the government's IR laws. Now, interestingly,
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Speaker 7: that's something that actually benefits in some ways big business
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Speaker 7: over small business, So it's interesting that the BCA is
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Speaker 7: speaking out about it. But ultimately what it means is
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Speaker 7: that businesses that perhaps cannot afford to pay the higher
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Speaker 7: wages that a larger employer could absorb get put out
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Speaker 7: of the system. You move them out of the system. Well,
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Speaker 7: where those people going to go to work? And that
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Speaker 7: will ultimately be the problem. The union's now talking about
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Speaker 7: setting up a work Choices style campaign when it comes
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Speaker 7: to the next federal election. Good luck to them. The
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Speaker 7: Coalition and the Business Council have to run a campaign
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Speaker 7: on if you want a job, you have to defeat
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Speaker 7: these IR laws.
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Speaker 2: You think that would be a fight coalition would welcome.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's turn now to the shocking allegations against the
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Speaker 1: ABC that they doctored gunshot audio on a story that
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Speaker 1: accused the retired Special Forces soldier Heston Russell of war crimes.
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Speaker 1: We spoke about this at length last night on the show.
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Speaker 1: Well today Heston Russell has doubled down and he's accused
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Speaker 1: the ABC of fabricating more footage.
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Speaker 2: Here's that breaking news this afternoon.
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Speaker 8: But mister Russell alleged today that another broadcast on the
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Speaker 8: flagship seven point thirty report has even more added gunshots.
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Speaker 8: How many shots did.
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Speaker 9: You count there? It's about eleven or twelve? Do you
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Speaker 9: think they should take this down?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely?
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Speaker 10: This is completely new audio brought in from somewhere else
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Speaker 10: that digging themselves a deeper hole because there's been many
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Speaker 10: edits made to sensationalize this story.
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Speaker 8: The ABC has been contacted for comment, but mister Heston,
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Speaker 8: who's already won a successful defamation case against the broadcaster
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Speaker 8: for four hundred thousand dollars, also wants an apology and
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Speaker 8: is calling for a parliamentary inquiry into the issue.
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Speaker 1: And then, quite amazing timing, the ABC's director of News,
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Speaker 1: Justin Stevens, happened to be giving a speech at the
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Speaker 1: Melbourne Press Club today and he was asked whether he
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Speaker 1: was going to apologize to Heston Russell, and once again
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Speaker 1: he refused. He said, I'm not going to preempt that. Well,
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Speaker 1: the arrogance here is just unbelievable. Heston Russell now considering
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Speaker 1: further legal action against the public broadcaster. But bron when
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Speaker 1: Christa in The Nightly wrote a brilliant piece where he
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Speaker 1: spoke about Mark Willersey the journalist to arrogance, he said
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Speaker 1: he was caught out basically spinning a battlefield rumor into
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Speaker 1: a war crime. And I think that really captures the
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Speaker 1: nub of what's happened here.
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Speaker 6: This is really shocking. The ABC has been doing some
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Speaker 6: awful things, but this is just beyond the pale. And
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Speaker 6: if they think they can get away with just firing
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Speaker 6: some poor person who was in the editing booth and
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Speaker 6: letting everybody else float along on, that's not going to wash.
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Speaker 1: Do you know.
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Speaker 6: It's interesting the staff of the ABC are public servants,
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Speaker 6: so they are actually covered by the knack and perhaps
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Speaker 6: this is an issue it should be referred to the knack.
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Speaker 6: Interesting thought, Well, it's serious enough to because there's an
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Speaker 6: academic who wrote who said Stephen Morris, professor of Politics,
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Speaker 6: said political corruption is the illegitimate use of public power
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Speaker 6: to benefit a private interest and if a pursuit of
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Speaker 6: in the words of mister Stevens today trying to say
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Speaker 6: that journalists seeking to gain acclamation as journalists was.
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Speaker 2: A pursuit.
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Speaker 6: I think we're getting into very murky territory. I'm not
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Speaker 6: making any allegations. I'm just saying that this may matter
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Speaker 6: is so serious it cannot be left to the ABC
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Speaker 6: to investigate itself. The idea of a parliamentary inquiry is one,
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Speaker 6: but perhaps the NACKT does have a role.
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Speaker 1: Well, and Heston has said there might be further legal action.
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Speaker 1: That is something and you considering and talking about with
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Speaker 1: Supersanthro and.
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Speaker 6: Rebecca Jill as well as not instead of.
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Speaker 1: But Caleb, I think a lot of people looking at
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Speaker 1: this and they see the errors. They watch that amazing
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Speaker 1: spotlight show on Sunday Night on seven that revealed all
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Speaker 1: of this, and they think, how can that ABC keep going,
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Speaker 1: keep pursuing something to the point where he might nearly
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Speaker 1: be on the verge of taking his life, and then
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Speaker 1: just refuse to apologize. Well, when it's been found in
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Speaker 1: a court of law that they got it wrong.
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Speaker 7: Because the ABC is so high and mighty, and many
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Speaker 7: of the people who work at the ABC are so
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Speaker 7: high and mighty, they believe that they are more superior
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Speaker 7: than the rest of us. Those who work or work
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Speaker 7: in the quote unquote tabloid media or the Murdoch Media
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Speaker 7: or the nine media or what you're all scum. We
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Speaker 7: at the ABC are above all of you, and so
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Speaker 7: they feel like they can do anything without impunity.
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Speaker 2: A bottom of correct as willis he said.
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Speaker 7: And the problem is, though, that the ABC has engaged
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Speaker 7: here in fake news. I mean, this is just absolutely news.
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Speaker 7: And I do not for one second by this argument
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Speaker 7: that it comes down to an error that was made
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Speaker 7: in editing. Right now, you might forgive a print journalist
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Speaker 7: who wrote a story and there was a headline that
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Speaker 7: went on it that was a little bit misleading, but
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Speaker 7: it wasn't the breaking story of the day. Whatever, Right,
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Speaker 7: you make a complaint, someone complains about it, you go
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Speaker 7: to the subedter, to the subeter apologizes. If you're breaking
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Speaker 7: a major exclusive story, whether it's in television, print, online, whatever,
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Speaker 7: you go over every single little bit of that before
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Speaker 7: it goes to where or is printed, because it's ultimately
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Speaker 7: your name is the journalist, your barline that goes next
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Speaker 7: to it. I do not buy for a minute that
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Speaker 7: other people in the ABC were not aware of the
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Speaker 7: fact that was doocted. Either they were aware or they
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Speaker 7: took very little care in checking the product they were
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Speaker 7: going to put to it.
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Speaker 2: Just adding there.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the journalists have denied that they had anything
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Speaker 1: to do with it. Now, let's have a look at
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Speaker 1: the fallout from this freshwater polling that suggested a Dutton
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Speaker 1: minority government is within reach for the coalition.
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Speaker 2: Well, Labor is hitting back, going on the defense. They
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Speaker 2: are using the line that.
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Speaker 1: Darton has extreme right views and a lack of policy
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Speaker 1: and that this is going to see Poles tighten up
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Speaker 1: closer to the federal election. But Bronwin, this is the
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Speaker 1: issue Labor has always believed. Albanezy has always believed that
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Speaker 1: Peter Dutton is unelectable and so this has in a
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Speaker 1: sense given them a bit of protection.
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Speaker 2: But it's just not the case.
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Speaker 6: Well, they also said the same thing about Tony Abbott.
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Speaker 2: They did.
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Speaker 6: And when I look at mister alban Easy, he sometimes
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Speaker 6: looks like he's come off on our selection and think
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Speaker 6: that this is supposed to be the leader of a
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Speaker 6: modern contemporary society.
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Speaker 2: Come off what sorry on our selection.
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Speaker 6: It's an old movie where it's kind of like Dad
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Speaker 6: and Dave.
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Speaker 1: Right, I'm in pieces which have a screening, a family
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Speaker 1: screen that's.
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Speaker 2: By the bye.
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Speaker 6: But I mean other people say, of course, mister Chalmers
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Speaker 6: looks like I'm a pile, which is another old television production.
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Speaker 6: But to the point, to the point, it is a
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Speaker 6: matter of Peter Dutton being very mainstream. He's expressing the
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Speaker 6: views that ordinary people see are the way we should
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Speaker 6: be going. That labor is taking the country absolutely in
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Speaker 6: the wrong direction. You're seeing already people putting themselves out
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Speaker 6: to be alternate leaders. You've got Burke out there, you've
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Speaker 6: got charmers, and now you've got Blebersec who's busy promoting
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Speaker 6: herself as a good left wing candidate. And I was
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Speaker 6: fascinated by the words of Kelty in particular that the
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Speaker 6: government was losing its way. Yes, of course, I think
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Speaker 6: I remember that there were similar words a good government
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Speaker 6: losing its way the put Gillard in place of Rudd.
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Speaker 6: So I think there's no accident about some of these
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Speaker 6: words being used, and I think there is. I think
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Speaker 6: there is time for Alban Easy to make some progress.
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Speaker 6: But I do think that that Financial Review poll it
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Speaker 6: shows that Peter Dutton is possible to get the keys
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Speaker 6: to the lodge is certainly true.
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Speaker 1: And there's no question there are people in Labor, particularly
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Speaker 1: in marginal Western seats like Tony Burke, who are panicking
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Speaker 1: about this Caleb.
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Speaker 7: Of course they are, and deservedly so. I mean, the
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Speaker 7: great thing about Peter Dutton is that he has been
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Speaker 7: so underestimated for such a long time, and polling for
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Speaker 7: the better part of a year now has shown that
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Speaker 7: at least on terms of strength, people rate Peter Dutton
22:00
Speaker 7: better than the Prime Minister. He doesn't necessarily win on popularity,
22:04
Speaker 7: but he wins on strength. He wins on understanding issues
22:08
Speaker 7: like cost of living, the biggest issues that are around
22:11
Speaker 7: right now exactly and ultimately when it comes to an election,
22:15
Speaker 7: they are the things that people will be thinking about.
22:18
Speaker 7: He's been strong to characterize him as you know, extreme
22:21
Speaker 7: right or far right, as Labor is trying to do,
22:24
Speaker 7: or at least they believe privately, is nonsense. And if
22:27
Speaker 7: that's how they're going to estimate him, well they're on
22:30
Speaker 7: a hiding too. Nothing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's such a far left government, you know,
22:34
Speaker 1: compared to Siss governments, right, They that he would be
22:38
Speaker 1: far right to that, you know, compared to Centrius governments
22:40
Speaker 1: like I said, like Rudds, like Gillards, like even State
22:44
Speaker 1: Chris Men's and Peter Mullen askus there's very Centrius labor company.
22:47
Speaker 7: By the way, Bronwin, I played a bit of Bye
22:49
Speaker 7: Bye Birdie on the Sunday show Down the other night
22:51
Speaker 7: and Paul chardedly for that. So you're in good company.
22:54
Speaker 2: Have to give us a list of the movies to
22:56
Speaker 2: catch up on. Brunwin, Bishop and Caleb bind Great to
22:58
Speaker 2: see you both well.
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Speaker 1: Today, let's turn to today's bombshell revelations around Daniel Andrews
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Speaker 1: and that infamous crash with the teen cyclist Ryan Mulliman
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Speaker 1: will A review by a former police assistant commissioner says
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Speaker 1: the investigation into the crash was an overt cover up
23:17
Speaker 1: to avoid implicating a political figure. The review suggested that
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Speaker 1: the police investigation into the accident was flawed, unfounded, and
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Speaker 1: contrary to the available evidence.
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Speaker 2: These are damning findings now.
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Speaker 1: Sadly, the commissioner who did that review, doctor Raymond Shuey,
23:35
Speaker 1: died in August, just days after completing his final report.
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Speaker 1: The review was commissioned by the cyclist's lawyers as part
23:45
Speaker 1: of an ongoing Supreme caught damage proceedings into the crash. Now,
23:49
Speaker 1: in response, former Premier Daniel Andrews and his wife have
23:53
Speaker 1: just this afternoon made a statement. They said, this so
23:56
Speaker 1: called report was commissioned by lawyers on behalf of their
23:58
Speaker 1: clients who seking money through the courts by suing their
24:02
Speaker 1: former lawyers. We are not a party to this legal action.
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Speaker 1: We did nothing wrong. This matter has already been comprehensively
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Speaker 1: and independently investigated and closed by Victoria police and integrity agencies. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's bring in now Colin Robertson. He's a design engineer
24:20
Speaker 1: and consultant to the mueller Men family. He's been helping
24:24
Speaker 1: them fight for in their eyes justice. Welcome to the show,
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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time. Look just how damning are these findings.
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Speaker 10: I'll put simply, Shari, very damning. Doctor Shuey looked at
24:41
Speaker 10: Dr Shuey looked at two main aspects. He looked at
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Speaker 10: the actual crash itself, how it happened and how it
24:47
Speaker 10: didn't happen. And he looked at the police investigation. That
24:52
Speaker 10: was another area of expertise is police procedure, police investigation.
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Speaker 10: So to the first to the first item, the accident itself.
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Speaker 10: He's concluded conclusively that it's implausible or impossible for the
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Speaker 10: accident to have happened the way that the Andrews and
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Speaker 10: Victoria Police that had happened. To the second point, the
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Speaker 10: police investigation put simply, there was no investigation.
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Speaker 1: So he's concluded this was a cover up to protect
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Speaker 1: a public figure, a cover up to protect Daniel Andrews.
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Speaker 2: That's the allegation here.
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Speaker 1: Can you point to some of the details that doctor
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Speaker 1: Shuey drew on in his reppoint to make this claim.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, certainly. One of the points that he strongly emphasized
25:43
Speaker 10: was that the driver's name was recorded as Catherine Kessick
25:47
Speaker 10: in the official police documents and all the other documents,
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Speaker 10: he's referred to as Catherine Andrews. Another point that he
25:55
Speaker 10: was very firm on, as the police failed to provide
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Speaker 10: Peter Melman, the father of Ryan, with the driver's details.
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Speaker 10: In fact, outright refused to provide those details, which in
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Speaker 10: a matter of police procedure, both the driver and in
26:12
Speaker 10: an accident and the person who's been hit are entitled
26:17
Speaker 10: to those details.
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Speaker 1: You've been involved in this case for the past couple
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Speaker 1: of years. You've been helping Ryan's family and Ryan himself
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Speaker 1: creating re enactments pouring.
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Speaker 2: Over the evidence. What to you is one of.
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Speaker 1: The most compelling pieces of evidence that indicate there was
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Speaker 1: something wrong with this investigation right from the start.
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Speaker 10: Well, listen, anyone with the technical background, or in fact
26:45
Speaker 10: a functioning brain, when they saw those three grainy photographs
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Speaker 10: of the crash damage. The official version, Andrew's version of
26:54
Speaker 10: the crash is that Ryan hit them at speed, in
26:58
Speaker 10: fact a perfect tea bone. So look at those photos,
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Speaker 10: it becomes immediately apparent that the car hit Ryan. In fact,
27:06
Speaker 10: Dr Suey has concluded that the car has cut the
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Speaker 10: corner or made a sweep turn as he calls it,
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Speaker 10: at speed at say forty five kilometers hour, and they
27:15
Speaker 10: simply run Ryan down as he's crossed the road.
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Speaker 1: Now that these damning findings have been made public, this
27:23
Speaker 1: report is finished. Are Ryan and his family looking at
27:27
Speaker 1: further legal action? Are they looking at any other complaints
27:31
Speaker 1: to other organizations in Victoria?
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Speaker 10: Well, listen, I'll emphasize at the start that Ryan's family
27:40
Speaker 10: are not looking for monetary compensation, although of course that
27:44
Speaker 10: may be an outcome that the current legal action sort.
27:48
Speaker 7: Of leads to.
27:49
Speaker 10: They are actually seeking justice for Ryan. They want the
27:52
Speaker 10: truth of They want the truth of the accident to
27:55
Speaker 10: come out, and they want the public to know what
27:57
Speaker 10: happened that day. So there is a current civil action
28:01
Speaker 10: against the lawyers Slater and Gordon who represented Ryan against
28:06
Speaker 10: the TAC and the initial accident. But the family are
28:11
Speaker 10: also calling for the Victoria Police to reopen the investigation
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Speaker 10: in light of Dr Shuey's comprehensive forensic thirty six page report.
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't expect that to happen under the current labor government,
28:26
Speaker 1: I suppose.
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Speaker 10: Well, look, I guess at this point, let's just say
28:31
Speaker 10: they're asking if no action is taken. As my understanding is,
28:37
Speaker 10: there are civil remedies, legal action that can be taken
28:41
Speaker 10: against Victoria Police and not just the force themselves, but
28:46
Speaker 10: the actual officers involved in what Doctor Shuey was absolutely
28:50
Speaker 10: out of. It was a cover up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this now is going to have a long
28:54
Speaker 1: way to run. As you've just said, there Ryan's family,
28:57
Speaker 1: the cyclist family asking Victoria Police reopen its investigation.
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Speaker 2: If not, there are other legal avenues to pursue.
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Speaker 1: Colin Robertson really appreciate your time now after the break.
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Speaker 1: The US is pressuring Australia to reject a PROHAMUS UN resolution. Well,
29:14
Speaker 1: how can Penny wang possibly support such an extreme proposal
29:19
Speaker 1: that ultimately does back terrorism. Colin Rubinstein will join me next,
29:24
Speaker 1: and what a surprise, the Prime Minister's social media band
29:28
Speaker 1: for kids hits a roadblock with big Tech refusing to
29:31
Speaker 1: enforce age checks. All of that still coming up, welcome back. Well,
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Speaker 1: the pressure is on Pennywog tonight, and not just from US,
29:43
Speaker 1: but from the Biden administration. Biden's own team is urging
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Speaker 1: Australia to say no to a draft UN resolution by
29:52
Speaker 1: the Palestinian Authority that demands an unconditional withdrawal from Gaza
29:56
Speaker 1: and the West Bank, as I spoke about at the
29:59
Speaker 1: start of the show, also recommends sanctions against Israel. Now,
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Speaker 1: Labor is reportedly weighing its position it should be a
30:08
Speaker 1: direct and easy no. Well, to discuss this further, let's
30:11
Speaker 1: bring in now Australian Israel Jewish Affairs Council Executive Director,
30:15
Speaker 1: doctor Colin Rubinstein.
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Speaker 2: Colin, welcome to the show.
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Speaker 1: Thanks very How extreme is this resolution in your opinion, It's.
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Speaker 11: About as extreme as you can get. It's the ultra extreme.
30:26
Speaker 11: It's basically calling not only for the isolation of Israel,
30:30
Speaker 11: but the delegitimization of Israel and ultimately is dismantling. So
30:36
Speaker 11: it's an omnibus resolution got everything in it, all sorts
30:39
Speaker 11: of boycotts, economic boycotts, military boycotts, calling Israel apartheid and
30:46
Speaker 11: basically calling for the unraveling of Israel and demanding the
30:49
Speaker 11: imposition the coercion of Israel to accept the extreme Palestinian
30:54
Speaker 11: demand for a state not calling for negotiations. It upsets
30:58
Speaker 11: thirty years of Australian by partisan support, by the way,
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Speaker 11: which is very negotiated resolution leading to a two state outcome.
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Speaker 11: None of that in this resolution show it should be
31:09
Speaker 11: very clear cut for Australia simply devote against it because
31:14
Speaker 11: it's so extreme and it's totally counterproductive actually to moving forward,
31:19
Speaker 11: because it will only delay the possibility of genuine negotiations
31:22
Speaker 11: going forward, not expedite them.
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Speaker 1: Apart from the racism or anti semitism of boycotts on
31:30
Speaker 1: Israeli companies and depriving Israel of weapons to defend itself
31:36
Speaker 1: and to fight terrorists, I think one of the most
31:38
Speaker 1: extreme parts of this is the demand for an unconditional
31:42
Speaker 1: withdrawal from Gaza. What country in the world would leave
31:48
Speaker 1: its own civilians, over a hundred of them, just as
31:51
Speaker 1: hostages in the arms of terrorists. Who would ever support
31:56
Speaker 1: an unconditional withdrawal leaving behind the hostages.
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Speaker 11: None, of course, it's completely Israel's right to self defense.
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Speaker 11: There's no mention whatsoever of the atrocities of Ocloba seven.
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Speaker 11: And you know, voting for this or even abstaining it
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Speaker 11: away would represent a reward for Hamas terrorism, for the genocidal,
32:16
Speaker 11: barbaric tactics and strategy of Comas, and also the Palestinian
32:21
Speaker 11: authority which has its pay for slave policy, which also
32:27
Speaker 11: incites hatred towards Jews, which needs the radical lising. And
32:32
Speaker 11: so it's just totally counterproductive in every possible respect. And
32:38
Speaker 11: you know, a country like Australia shouldn't have to think
32:41
Speaker 11: twice about rejecting and opposing this resolution, and for the
32:44
Speaker 11: Americans to have to even pressure Australia to do this,
32:48
Speaker 11: it's not a good look for Australia in terms of
32:50
Speaker 11: our relationship with the United States, in terms of our
32:53
Speaker 11: standing as a democratic country which should be supporting our
32:56
Speaker 11: friends and democratic allies in this situation.
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Speaker 1: It shows the weakness of the current alban Ezi government.
33:03
Speaker 1: As you say, all Australian governments, it's been bipartisan policy
33:07
Speaker 1: for years to support Israel and its right self defense.
33:11
Speaker 1: The fact that the Biden administration has come to Australia
33:15
Speaker 1: and urge it to reject this motion, and I mean
33:18
Speaker 1: it could very well be the position that Pennywong ends
33:20
Speaker 1: up abstaining from.
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Speaker 11: It, well, that would be very disappointing if Australia can't
33:25
Speaker 11: simply reject this resolution. An abstension, unfortunately, would reflect the
33:31
Speaker 11: tilt against Israel that we've seen not only since October seven,
33:34
Speaker 11: but since this government took power, and it would be
33:37
Speaker 11: a very retrogade step, I think for Australia standing in
33:40
Speaker 11: our national interests and our national security.
33:43
Speaker 2: Now I want to ask you about this story.
33:45
Speaker 1: This was originally front page of the Daily Telegraph last week.
33:48
Speaker 1: I covered it on my show. It's now in the
33:51
Speaker 1: Australian today that the federal government, the alban Ezi government
33:55
Speaker 1: has made available millions of dollars in funding to organizations
33:59
Speaker 1: they have to apply for it for grants. One of
34:02
Speaker 1: those organizations is UMA United Muslims Australia.
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Speaker 2: Which promotes on its website one of.
34:09
Speaker 1: The hate preachers, Sheikh Dadoune, who said the day after
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Speaker 1: October seven attacks that he was elated.
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Speaker 2: He was literally celebrating in the streets. What do you
34:20
Speaker 2: think about the Albanezi government making.
34:22
Speaker 1: Available millions of dollars in funding to organizations that are
34:26
Speaker 1: promoting hate preachers.
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Speaker 11: Look, the program itself is good. It's to enhance security
34:32
Speaker 11: of faith organizations, Jewish, Muslim and so on, So the
34:35
Speaker 11: program is good. But actually giving grants to organizations with
34:40
Speaker 11: who have within them speakers and individuals who actually promote
34:45
Speaker 11: hatred and violence is totally counterproductive the whole purpose of
34:48
Speaker 11: the program. You don't give grants to those who are
34:52
Speaker 11: inciting hatred and violence. That simply undermines the whole purpose
34:56
Speaker 11: of the program, which is to enhance the security of community.
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Speaker 11: Is an organization, So it's a nonsense proposition. And of
35:03
Speaker 11: course I think, as the opposition spokesman correctly put it today,
35:07
Speaker 11: this sort of grant should not be given. It's really
35:10
Speaker 11: an abomination.
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Speaker 1: It really isn't At the same time, failing to crack
35:15
Speaker 1: down on hate speech. It's been nearly a year we
35:19
Speaker 1: know the laws need to be improved, and nothing's been done.
35:22
Speaker 11: There's certain slackness in granting public money all around front
35:26
Speaker 11: the Australian Research Council to a variety of other programs
35:30
Speaker 11: designed to enhance social cohesion. You do not give it
35:33
Speaker 11: to individuals who enhance racial hatred, racism and even inside violence.
35:40
Speaker 11: So we have to have a good look at the
35:42
Speaker 11: way in which the taxpace money is spent. I think
35:45
Speaker 11: in all of these cases, I just.
35:47
Speaker 1: What gets me is that front page of the Daily
35:49
Speaker 1: Telegraph in the Australian covering it here on the show,
35:52
Speaker 1: and the government just shrugs its shoulders, doesn't care, moves
35:55
Speaker 1: on the rest of the media.
35:56
Speaker 2: Let them get away with it.
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Speaker 11: I don't think the Australia and public will let them
35:59
Speaker 11: get away with it. At the end of the day,
36:01
Speaker 11: I think we still live in a democracy and you
36:04
Speaker 11: can't fill all the people all the time. I really
36:06
Speaker 11: feel the Australian public is waking up to the problems
36:10
Speaker 11: being inflicted on us. We want to see cohesion. We
36:13
Speaker 11: don't want to see programs and policies going to those
36:16
Speaker 11: individuals and organizations who are undermining the very fabric of
36:20
Speaker 11: our So far cohesive multicultural society. You don't give money
36:24
Speaker 11: your support to those who are undermining our commitment to
36:27
Speaker 11: the core values of democracy and the security and viability
36:32
Speaker 11: and liberty of our society.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely agree, Like I say often, you know, we can
36:36
Speaker 1: all have our own opinions as we do. It's a
36:38
Speaker 1: democracy on what's happening in the Middle East. But the
36:40
Speaker 1: most important thing for all of us is not to
36:43
Speaker 1: have racism, not to have violence on our streets, for
36:45
Speaker 1: our children to grow up in peace, that those conflicts.
36:49
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be playing out here.
36:50
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be worried for everyone's physical safety. Colin Rubinstein
36:55
Speaker 1: really appreciate good time, Thanks very much. Now after the break,
36:58
Speaker 1: how a twelve year old girl was let down by
37:01
Speaker 1: the school system, Her family now begging for answers. Plus,
37:05
Speaker 1: Donald Trump speaks out after a second failed assassination attempt,
37:09
Speaker 1: with bodycam footage showing the moment the gunman was captured
37:13
Speaker 1: by the cops.
37:14
Speaker 2: That's coming up, Welcome back well.
37:21
Speaker 1: Labour strategists are now panicking after the weekends council elections
37:25
Speaker 1: in New South Wales. In key seats, particularly in western Sydney,
37:30
Speaker 1: voters punished labor and they put their preferences and votes
37:34
Speaker 1: with the independents or the Greens. Well, let's bring you
37:36
Speaker 1: now Menzies Research Center executive director Nick Cater and former
37:41
Speaker 1: Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger.
37:43
Speaker 2: Welcome to you both.
37:45
Speaker 1: Michael, what's your read on Saturday's local election. We are
37:50
Speaker 1: hearing reports in all the papers that Labour's absolutely panicking.
37:54
Speaker 2: After the fall in their vote. What message does this
37:57
Speaker 2: send to Albanezi.
37:59
Speaker 12: Look, what's been happening over the last few months is
38:01
Speaker 12: it's sour. It's sands through the hourglass, I should say,
38:06
Speaker 12: bit by bit, day by day. The vote is ebbing
38:10
Speaker 12: away from federal labor. And this is due to just
38:14
Speaker 12: massive disappointment by the general populace with their economic performance
38:20
Speaker 12: and by various sections and groups within the community anger
38:25
Speaker 12: about what they've done. So the mining industry is furious
38:28
Speaker 12: about this gold mining decision in New South Wales, the
38:32
Speaker 12: business community generally, the furious about industrial relations changes, the
38:35
Speaker 12: Aboriginal community of furious that he's dumped out the Macaratic Commission,
38:39
Speaker 12: and on and on it goes. So it's just massive disappointment.
38:44
Speaker 12: It's a b grade government, you can see it. And
38:46
Speaker 12: every electoral result, whether it's New South Wales and Northern
38:48
Speaker 12: Territory or Shari next month, it's also going to then
38:52
Speaker 12: translate into Queensland. So I think the electorate are over
38:56
Speaker 12: Labor and I think petered Up is probably the favorite
39:01
Speaker 12: now to become Prime Minister after the next election.
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Speaker 1: And that is a prediction that Mare and Mara are making.
39:07
Speaker 1: But Nick, it's interesting that at least with these council elections,
39:10
Speaker 1: the vote from Labor didn't go to the Liberal Party.
39:14
Speaker 1: It went to the Greens or to Independence in their
39:17
Speaker 1: heartland seats.
39:18
Speaker 2: What does this tell you? Do you think this is
39:19
Speaker 2: about the Gaza issue?
39:21
Speaker 9: Well, I think yes, it was about Gaza. I think
39:25
Speaker 9: we've got to be cautious about how we interpret this
39:26
Speaker 9: because I've got to remember, of course, the Liberal Party
39:29
Speaker 9: stuffed up really badly and didn't get candidates in a
39:33
Speaker 9: lot of those seats. So many of those many of
39:36
Speaker 9: those councilarious, many of those wards there would be no
39:38
Speaker 9: Liberal Party candidate. But this is seriously troubling for Labor
39:42
Speaker 9: because you know, traditionally the Green vote holds up about
39:46
Speaker 9: as far as Alburns for people who know Sydney, and
39:48
Speaker 9: then it drops right off a cliff, and yet it's
39:50
Speaker 9: in those far west, in the western Sydney regions that
39:55
Speaker 9: it's picked up where it's normally isn't high. In one way,
39:58
Speaker 9: I think nobody be pleased with himself, in the sense
40:01
Speaker 9: that obviously he's been able to hold on to the
40:04
Speaker 9: reality on the Middle East enough that at least the
40:09
Speaker 9: extreme Palestinian supporters think he's let them down. But I
40:12
Speaker 9: must say he's been all over the place. He's neither
40:15
Speaker 9: one thing nor the other on this. And because of
40:17
Speaker 9: danger now it is, of course he'll go completely the
40:19
Speaker 9: other way, push out towards the Greens, because he knows
40:22
Speaker 9: how his own seat could potentially be under threat.
40:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're already seeing him speak very vocally about
40:28
Speaker 1: the housing issue, which is one area that the Greens
40:31
Speaker 1: have dominated.
40:33
Speaker 2: Now it looks like the Prime.
40:34
Speaker 1: Minister's pledge to have a social media ban on mobile
40:39
Speaker 1: phones for uzzie kids or up to the age of
40:42
Speaker 1: forteen or sixteen, it's already hitting roadblocks. Reports that big
40:46
Speaker 1: tech companies aren't very cooperative in trying to help labor
40:50
Speaker 1: navigate this. I mean, Michael Kroiger, this isn't a surprise.
40:54
Speaker 1: This was always going to be difficult, and the problem
40:56
Speaker 1: is the Prime Minister and Michelle Roland didn't start work
40:59
Speaker 1: on this until the eleventh hour, when they could have
41:04
Speaker 1: been working on it the entire year. They started working
41:06
Speaker 1: out they think they're going to have this legislation in
41:08
Speaker 1: by the end of the year.
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Speaker 2: It's just not going to happen.
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Speaker 12: I think it's unlikely they'll get legislation before the Parliament
41:16
Speaker 12: parsuitar of the Senate that's going to get passed, because
41:19
Speaker 12: as you say, it's been a rush and these big
41:21
Speaker 12: tech companies, they're not fools. This is not the first
41:23
Speaker 12: government that's tried to curtail air their activities and it
41:27
Speaker 12: won't be the last. So these people are masters of
41:31
Speaker 12: the univers as they say.
41:33
Speaker 7: So.
41:33
Speaker 12: I think Albanizi having made such a slow start, even
41:37
Speaker 12: though his intentions and the intention of the federal government,
41:40
Speaker 12: the state governments and all parties effectively agree with this,
41:43
Speaker 12: that's something's got to be done. It's going to be
41:46
Speaker 12: very hard to do it quickly. Albanesi hasn't shown the
41:50
Speaker 12: propensity to be strong on issues, and you know, they'll
41:56
Speaker 12: probably run the clock down until the election and try
41:58
Speaker 12: and try their luck with the new Liberal government. But
42:01
Speaker 12: I don't think they'll get fired with Peter Dutton either,
42:03
Speaker 12: so I think it's just a matter of time, but
42:06
Speaker 12: it may not be this year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, it's not going to be this year.
42:09
Speaker 2: I mean their trial.
42:11
Speaker 1: Sorry, the tender for the company to run the trial
42:14
Speaker 1: doesn't even finish until well into October, so the trial
42:18
Speaker 1: is not going to start until mid October. There's no
42:20
Speaker 1: way they're going to have legislation in by the end
42:23
Speaker 1: of the year if it is based on that trial. Now,
42:25
Speaker 1: I want to end with this really devastating story that
42:28
Speaker 1: Ben Fordham broke yesterday morning on his show. This is
42:31
Speaker 1: about a little girl called Charlotte, twelve years old. She
42:36
Speaker 1: took her own life last Monday after relentless bullying at school.
42:40
Speaker 1: Now her parents have set in a statement to Ben Fordham,
42:44
Speaker 1: we lost our baby girl in the most awful circumstances.
42:48
Speaker 1: They said, no words can ever describe what it's like
42:51
Speaker 1: for us and life will never be the same again.
42:54
Speaker 2: Nick the family are making this public.
42:58
Speaker 1: They've agreed for permission for their daughter's photograph to be
43:02
Speaker 1: aired there saying this is what she was dealing with.
43:05
Speaker 2: But yet the school sounder Sabina is refusing to really
43:09
Speaker 2: accept that this was a case of bully.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, our thoughts and prayers go out to
43:13
Speaker 9: the family. This is just terrible. He'd never had covered
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Speaker 9: from this. It's a most horrible, horrible thing you can imagine.
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Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, I think we haven't seen enough
43:20
Speaker 9: action from the school. But I think this goes back
43:23
Speaker 9: to the previous story on social media and smartphones particularly,
43:27
Speaker 9: evidence is there. It's in abundance that there has been
43:31
Speaker 9: a big rise in teenage anxiety, in suicide, everything connect
43:36
Speaker 9: mental illness, which started with the smartphone. Once kids have
43:40
Speaker 9: got the smartphone and they could do all this stuff
43:42
Speaker 9: on the mown. Now, I don't know in this case
43:44
Speaker 9: whether that's a factor, but it's certainly a factor with
43:47
Speaker 9: a lot of youth suicides, particularly girls as it happens,
43:50
Speaker 9: The statistics are very clear on that. So this goes
43:53
Speaker 9: to why Alban Easiest waited this long for something that
43:56
Speaker 9: people knew was a problem years ago. In fact, the
43:59
Speaker 9: coalition took a policy to the last election to deal
44:02
Speaker 9: with this, and he's taken right till the end of
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Speaker 9: his term to try and rush something through which clearly
44:07
Speaker 9: isn't thought through the technology is not there. He doesn't
44:09
Speaker 9: even know what age he wants is to kick in at.
44:12
Speaker 9: So the priorities of the government are wrong. And I
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Speaker 9: really hope that the incoming government focuses on this very
44:19
Speaker 9: very strongly.
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Speaker 1: And you're right social media plays such a big role
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Speaker 1: because before kids could go home from school, they'd have
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Speaker 1: at least a reprieve. But now the bullying follows the
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Speaker 1: kids on the phone, on the social media. They feel
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Speaker 1: like they can't escape at it and it can become
44:35
Speaker 1: too overwhelming. And we should point out that if you
44:38
Speaker 1: or anyone you know is in distress, Lifeline is on
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Speaker 1: thirteen eleven fourteen and Kids Help Line on one eight
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Speaker 1: hundred fifty five, one eight hundred. All right, Nick Cata
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Speaker 1: and Michael Kroger, great to see you both.
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Speaker 6: Thanks y.
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Speaker 1: Now after the break, Donald Trump is blaming Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris for inciting the second assassination attempt, once
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Speaker 1: again calling out their rhetoric. We'll got it live to
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Speaker 1: the US with Adam Crichton after the break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go live now to Washington and
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Speaker 1: bring in the Australians. Correspondent Adam Crichton adam so much
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Speaker 1: news with the upcoming US presidential election. A shocking second
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Speaker 1: assassination attempt.
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Speaker 2: We've now seen.
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Speaker 1: Today the body cam footage very dramatic of the moment
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Speaker 1: that the cops arrested.
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Speaker 2: The man who's now been charged. How did Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: respond to this today? He spoke for the first time.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, certainly the response has been very different from
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Speaker 13: the first assassination attempt, where he really reigned in his
45:46
Speaker 13: rhetoric and he was more careful to not put blame
45:49
Speaker 13: on the Democrats. But this time, certainly he's gone full throttle.
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Speaker 13: He's been extremely aggressive in saying that the reason for
45:55
Speaker 13: this second attempt was the Democrat party rhetoric and that's
45:58
Speaker 13: from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris down. So certainly a
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Speaker 13: very different response this time. Look, I mean, is that fair?
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Speaker 4: Maybe?
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Speaker 13: I mean both sides I think engage in this sort
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Speaker 13: of extreme rhetoric, and I think that's you know, that
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Speaker 13: is partly because there are very large differences now between
46:13
Speaker 13: the two major political parties in the US, and they
46:16
Speaker 13: also need to get their base out to vote.
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Speaker 1: You know, this is an assassination attempt. I think we
46:22
Speaker 1: just in a sense have really undermined just how serious
46:28
Speaker 1: this is trying to kill off a future president and
46:32
Speaker 1: past president.
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Speaker 2: Do you think that maybe some of the.
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Speaker 1: Leading political figures in the United States former presidents haven't
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Speaker 1: been as vocal about this as they should be.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, look, that's a very good point, show. I mean,
46:47
Speaker 13: certainly the US does have a horrible history of political assassinations.
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Speaker 13: You know, way more in this country, I think than
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Speaker 13: other countries around the world, even per capita. And yes,
46:56
Speaker 13: you're right. Look, I think you know, the former presidents
46:59
Speaker 13: have not really said any think about this. I mean,
47:01
Speaker 13: you know, and maybe that goes to the point that
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Speaker 13: Kamala Harra said that she was very glad that Donald
47:06
Speaker 13: Trump was safe, but she also says that, you know
47:08
Speaker 13: that he's an existential threat to democracy. So, I mean,
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Speaker 13: can you believe both of those things at the same time.
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Speaker 13: You know, some Democrats liken him to Hitler. I mean,
47:17
Speaker 13: you know, would you be happy if Hitler was still alive?
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Speaker 13: I don't think so. So I think there's a real
47:21
Speaker 13: problem here with the rhetoric.
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Speaker 1: Well, the Secret Services once again under scrutiny, but Donald
47:28
Speaker 1: Trump has thanked all the law enforcement officials. The thing
47:33
Speaker 1: that concerned me though, is that there are reports of
47:36
Speaker 1: this assassin was in the vicinity of the golf course
47:40
Speaker 1: for some eleven hours before he was noticed. I mean,
47:44
Speaker 1: how does that happen, that there's someone driving around with
47:47
Speaker 1: weapons for eleven hours before being picked up.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, look, it is extraordinary. I mean he was in
47:55
Speaker 13: the city of the golf course. Well, actually in the
47:57
Speaker 13: same spot. That's what the FBI said press conference earlier,
48:01
Speaker 13: and that's why he brought packs of food. Apparently the
48:04
Speaker 13: backpacks of course. Well, I mean one of the mysteries
48:07
Speaker 13: was that Trump's arrival at the course was not on
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Speaker 13: his public schedule. He doesn't have a public schedule, and
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Speaker 13: so I guess this guy Routh was just waiting around
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Speaker 13: for that twelve hours until he arrived. I mean, everyone
48:17
Speaker 13: knows that Trump likes to play golf. Was on the weekend,
48:21
Speaker 13: that's when Trump does play golf, So look, he was
48:24
Speaker 13: just waiting around.
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Speaker 5: I Mean.
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Speaker 13: The one crazy thing about this guy is his age.
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Speaker 13: I think he was fifty eight. Like, that's a really
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Speaker 13: old would be assassin, don't you think. I Mean, most
48:33
Speaker 13: people tend to calm down as they get older, but
48:36
Speaker 13: certainly not this guy. Who's you know whose social media
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Speaker 13: posts actually reflected all the Democrat talking points.
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Speaker 1: All right, Adam Crichton, we're out of time. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: joining me. I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. Right now,
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Speaker 1: here's Paul