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RBC Canadian Open PGA Leverage Lane | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS | Single-Entry GPP Strategy · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear your lift?
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Ember one? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and
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  Speaker 2: Tambo back for another edition of Leverage Lane here on
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  Speaker 2: the Ship at Nation YouTube Station. PGA DFS edition this week,
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  Speaker 2: talking all things RBC Canadian Open. You know your your
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  Speaker 2: favorite Canadian here, love to chat that through. I got
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  Speaker 2: my guy Alex blikel here with me as always, and
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a fun one because this is, of
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  Speaker 2: course we only just saw last year for the PGA Tour,
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  Speaker 2: so we're going to talk a little bit about how
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  Speaker 2: that can affect things. We've got some weather to discuss
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  Speaker 2: for this week, we're going to break down the Chalk build.
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  Speaker 2: What that looks like. Seems to be a couple pass
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  Speaker 2: that we can go there, so definitely stick around for that,
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  Speaker 2: and then of course we'll always talk about our way
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  Speaker 2: and how we're going to leverage the Chalk Build, leading
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  Speaker 2: to one and done conversation, betting breakdown, and then finally
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  Speaker 2: we'll give you our Leverage Lane from a single entry
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  Speaker 2: perspective for DFS this week. Alex, my friend, what's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 2: We're moving and shake it. We got the RBC Canadian
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  Speaker 2: Open and then next week, same time, same place, we'll
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  Speaker 2: be back to everybody knows here for the US Open,
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  Speaker 2: and then Mayo, you and myself will also be doing
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  Speaker 2: a show for the US Open as well. But what's
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  Speaker 2: going on, my friend? How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fun time of year right now with
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  Speaker 3: the US Open coming up and still trying to get
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  Speaker 3: those tickets. Came really close last night in the MLB streets,
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  Speaker 3: just barely missed a big ticket for baseball and the
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  Speaker 3: big ticket for the US Open. But it's been a
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  Speaker 3: really good baseball run lately, so enjoying that as well
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  Speaker 3: as the golf. And yeah, I think this is a
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  Speaker 3: week where, like I don't know how you feel about
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  Speaker 3: TVC Toronto, we can actually talk about that and the event.
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  Speaker 3: But like, I think the event has really suffered. But
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  Speaker 3: from a DFS perspective and just from like a solving
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  Speaker 3: the puzzle perspective, trying to find an edge type of perspective,
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  Speaker 3: I think it kind of works really well because now
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  Speaker 3: we're playing a course that we just saw last year,
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  Speaker 3: we have data on it, and yet there's also like
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  Speaker 3: this big new variable this year of it's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: really really windy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a you know, a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll get to that stuff in a second. But
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  Speaker 2: I definitely think from a DFS perspective. I talked about
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  Speaker 2: this with Mayo. This week is like it's sometimes the
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  Speaker 2: week before a major. You can definitely get a lazy week.
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  Speaker 2: And like, even like the first lineup when Mayo and
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  Speaker 2: I built it, he was like, man, that lineup sucks.
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  Speaker 2: I was, well, that's not. Everybody thinks that that's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a pretty popular lineup or at least some uh
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  Speaker 2: some range of that, and he was like, yeah, well
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  Speaker 2: then it could be a good week for that perspective.
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  Speaker 2: And I like weeks like this, so I'll breaking through
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  Speaker 2: and go down through the puzzle will definitely be some fun.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say, what's up to Jason, Timmy Doves, go collect
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  Speaker 2: wins a lot rap pack. My man Rick is in
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  Speaker 2: here and stat you know this. I'm you know, always
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  Speaker 2: get framed for this. I am Canadian, but I'm certainly
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  Speaker 2: cheering more for the US Open next week, just like
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  Speaker 2: when it comes down to hockey and all the stuff
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  Speaker 2: you hate on me for Like, I'm very Canadian, I
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  Speaker 2: love my country, but I get excited for the American stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Excited for World Cup too, by the way, and nobody
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  Speaker 2: ever hears me say that ever, But I love World Cup.
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  Speaker 2: I love anything where it's countries versus countries and things
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  Speaker 2: like that. So Gary is in here, Hotchdog is up here.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't get to listen live often, which is awesome. And
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  Speaker 2: then with you be a Canadian, you can only pick
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  Speaker 2: one Canadian to win who you're rooting for. Let's go with.
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  Speaker 3: Whoever he puts in his DraftKings lineup.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably the answer, really, But I'm just trying to
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  Speaker 2: think of like who else is down there, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't know it. Probably like Nick Taylor or Yella would
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  Speaker 2: be the most exciting. Pat was liking aj Ewart and
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  Speaker 2: going through some of those, but I don't know. Nick
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  Speaker 2: Taylor again would be cool. And I also think Yella
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  Speaker 2: has been sort of just finding his way through some
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  Speaker 2: of these fields, so that could be exciting as well.
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  Speaker 2: But where do you want to start here? Anything from
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  Speaker 2: last week you want to touch on first, and then
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  Speaker 2: getting to it for this week, I will just say
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  Speaker 2: from a satellite perspective, because we were talking about getting
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  Speaker 2: into the event next week, the big forty four to
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  Speaker 2: forty four Mega I did not get any tickets, but
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  Speaker 2: there is some two forty five with I think I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if it's five or ten to I think
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  Speaker 2: it's five tickets, So it's a you know, it's two
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  Speaker 2: or forty five dollars buy and there's a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: thirty seven and seventies and thirteens and everything. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: certainly glad I saved some budget for this week on
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  Speaker 2: the satellites because it's going to be a big satellite
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  Speaker 2: week for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely gonna be hitting the satellites hard, and like
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  Speaker 3: I said, hitting them every single day this week. They've
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  Speaker 3: done a nice job finally this week of putting some
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  Speaker 3: of those PGA satellites in the MLB streets. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why they're not doing that, Like all season long,
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  Speaker 3: we keep having this discussion. It's really been frustrating, but
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  Speaker 3: at least they're doing it this week, So give them
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  Speaker 3: props when they do. And hopefully everyone out there is
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  Speaker 3: playing those pretty aggressively and failing those early so that
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  Speaker 3: maybe DraftKings goes, Oh boy, the people really want these contests,
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  Speaker 3: maybe we should give it to them.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe our people hit up the reps when we told
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  Speaker 2: them last time. Because we're starting to see a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more action. I'm not sure how much a you know,
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  Speaker 2: JT post in versus Ryan Gerard playoff led to like
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  Speaker 2: let's get some bigger tournaments out there next week, or
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  Speaker 2: get some more satellites. But any final thoughts or any
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  Speaker 2: anything on last week that you wanted to discuss before
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  Speaker 2: we move into this week. I do think there's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be I will say this, I do think there's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be some recency bias, and it's based on they also
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  Speaker 2: fit the course too. Probably when we get there, we'll see,
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  Speaker 2: but like Wyndham Clark, Samburn's Fleetwood, Fitzpatrick, wrighton Cole, you
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  Speaker 2: know there's other guys down that list. Norrin Rose, maybe
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  Speaker 2: offsets and like secondary ownership, but realistically it looks like
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  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of those guys that just
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  Speaker 2: get carried over. And that's part of my thoughts around
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  Speaker 2: the Lazy Week just bringing Memorial immediately to TBC Toronto.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're definitely seeing that in the ownership.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I'm looking right now at just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: who are the guys that we have projected as the
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  Speaker 3: highest stone, particularly in single entry and yeah, they were
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  Speaker 3: all top ten at the Memorial and most of them
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  Speaker 3: to you know, the the credit of the field. Like
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  Speaker 3: most of these guys, it's not like they only played
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  Speaker 3: well last week. These guys have been in form and
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  Speaker 3: so it's not a surprise to see them getting so
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  Speaker 3: much ownership. I wouldn't even say that it's inefficient for
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  Speaker 3: these guys to get this much ownership. But it's also
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  Speaker 3: like there's so much going to just a handful of
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  Speaker 3: players that there are a lot of under owned guys
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  Speaker 3: this week, and that's gonna be a kind of a
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  Speaker 3: fun puzzle to to kind of work through.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want to see when we get
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  Speaker 2: to break it down the chalk build for this week
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  Speaker 2: and what we see, I'm curious to see where you've
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  Speaker 2: got the ownership at. I will say another just factor
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  Speaker 2: and spoiler alerder or jumping ahead a little bit, but
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  Speaker 2: have you ever seen we've done this every week almost now,
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe every week, and realistically it's always been like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: nobody's going to the eight k range. Nobody's going to
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  Speaker 2: the eight K range. This is the first week we're
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  Speaker 2: finally seeing it where like everybody is going to the
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  Speaker 2: eight K range and that'll be something we break down
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  Speaker 2: and we get to the chalk build or at least
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  Speaker 2: versions of it, and then obviously how to leverage the
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  Speaker 2: chalk build is looking at some of that stuff where
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  Speaker 2: maybe the nine k is completely overlooked, your different skill
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  Speaker 2: sets and things like that. So just talking about it
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  Speaker 2: this week before we get to weather and getting right
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  Speaker 2: into this event, what about the thought process around you know,
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  Speaker 2: only seeing one year of this event and only one
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  Speaker 2: class that played it, like it's this is the one
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  Speaker 2: group of players that played it last season. This year's
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  Speaker 2: a bit different from that perspective. There's so many factors
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about that are going into a weather maybe
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  Speaker 2: being different or things changing. But how do you sort
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  Speaker 2: of view that and then how do you apply it
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to dfs.
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  Speaker 3: So where I'll start with this answer is, let's remember
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  Speaker 3: what happened in round one at the PGA Championship at Aronomink,
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  Speaker 3: where like there was there was a hugely negative signal
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  Speaker 3: on distance. But when you kind of looked at the
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  Speaker 3: data and you said, well, why why was distance so
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  Speaker 3: ridiculously unpredictive in round one? You saw that there was
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  Speaker 3: just like this random trend where the longest guys in
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  Speaker 3: the field putted really poorly and the shortest guys in
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  Speaker 3: the field putted really well. And obviously there's no causation there.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing that says, oh, you know what, long guys
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  Speaker 3: are really going to struggle on the greens this week.
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  Speaker 3: And so when you're looking at just one year's worth
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  Speaker 3: of data, it's better than one roundsworth, but there is
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  Speaker 3: still a really small sample where in predictive and now
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  Speaker 3: you can get some just kind of random, chaotic outcomes
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  Speaker 3: that point you in an incorrect direction, where you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe really good short game players just didn't putt well
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  Speaker 3: or really struggled off the tee one thing or another,
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  Speaker 3: right where something that that the model's telling you that
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  Speaker 3: like this skill set did or did not translate into success,
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  Speaker 3: wasn't actually about that skill set and it was just
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  Speaker 3: about some random effect elsewhere. And so we do want
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  Speaker 3: to be on the lookout for that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 3: But one of the best ways to combat that is
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  Speaker 3: to have an idea, an expectation for the golf course
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  Speaker 3: coming in and then seeing how that aligns with your priors.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's you know, it's very base in the
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  Speaker 3: sense that like you're trying to kind of move what
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  Speaker 3: you saw towards your initial prior and the more data
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  Speaker 3: you get, the further you get from your priors, and
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  Speaker 3: the and the more you can let go of those priors.
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  Speaker 3: But the nice thing about TVC Toronto is we did
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  Speaker 3: see the course kind of fit what my expectation for
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  Speaker 3: the golf course was, which was, even though it's long,
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  Speaker 3: it's not a distance golf course, it's an accuracy golf course.
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  Speaker 3: The width of the fairways, I think the best way
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  Speaker 3: to put it is that they're wide enough that the
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  Speaker 3: accurate guys are just going to give themselves opportunity after
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  Speaker 3: opportunity after opportunity to go score. And that's what we
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  Speaker 3: saw play out last year. The new difficulty now, though,
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  Speaker 3: as we alluded to earlier, with the wind, is like
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  Speaker 3: the conditions are going to be so different this year
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  Speaker 3: that I'm kind of struggling a little bit in terms
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  Speaker 3: of how much do I really want to lean on
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  Speaker 3: last year and how do I think the wind is
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  Speaker 3: going to change things. There's definitely a lot of uncertainty
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  Speaker 3: in that. I think that Well, first of all, let
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  Speaker 3: me just say, like this was a unique course fit
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  Speaker 3: model in the sense that distance, approach play, and around
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  Speaker 3: the green play were all way down in predictive value.
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  Speaker 3: Around the green play was like insanely unpredictive last year.
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  Speaker 3: I think we will see more predictive value for approach
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  Speaker 3: play and around the green play with the wind just
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  Speaker 3: because it's gonna create harder scoring conditions. You're really gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to control your golf ball on your approach shots,
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  Speaker 3: things of that nature. I don't think we're gonna see
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  Speaker 3: more distance signal than we saw last year. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's still very much an accuracy golf course. The one
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  Speaker 3: place where that could change is if the wind direction,
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  Speaker 3: And this is something I still want to look into of, like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: are we getting a consistent wind direction and what does
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  Speaker 3: that wind direction mean for the golf course? Is it
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  Speaker 3: consistently into the wind on par five? So we're now
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  Speaker 3: suddenly like only the long guys are gonna be able
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  Speaker 3: to get there in two things of that nature. So
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  Speaker 3: I think it would take a really like just perfect
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  Speaker 3: scenario runout where day after day the wind is in
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  Speaker 3: a direction and a strength where distance is just like
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  Speaker 3: the perfect amount of necessary to make it a lot
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  Speaker 3: more predictive than last year, but in general, wind your
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  Speaker 3: conditions do not boost predicted value for distance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're gonna have a list too. That's interesting
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  Speaker 2: because when you start to break it down from that perspective,
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  Speaker 2: there's some guys that fit both buckets, Like surprisingly, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for me just doing a quick glance is like the
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  Speaker 2: you know, Bobby Max, the Brennans of the world, guys
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  Speaker 2: like that, the kind of have both of those in
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  Speaker 2: their bag, and you think, like, oh, just like Brandon
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  Speaker 2: just bombs it out there. But it's been accuracy as well,
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  Speaker 2: so maybe that's possible. But there's a lot of names
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  Speaker 2: on that list when you sort by sort of driving
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  Speaker 2: accuracy looking at it, of guys that aren't as popular
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  Speaker 2: this week, like call them Moracao or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll get to that later. Obviously, the nine day
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  Speaker 2: range going Overlook, do you want me to pull in
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  Speaker 2: the weather now and start there and maybe tie that
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  Speaker 2: together with everything you just mentioned. That might be the
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  Speaker 2: best way to bring it in. I think that'll refocus
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  Speaker 2: and then set you up there. But you've got it up,
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you sort of run through it here for
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  Speaker 2: everybody and go through what your thoughts are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I always like looking at kind of all
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  Speaker 3: the models because I'm trying to create a picture of,
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  Speaker 3: like what are all of the possible runouts of the weather.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a week where they all kind of agree.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the things you'll notice is I kind
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  Speaker 3: of scroll through here, is every model is sort of
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  Speaker 3: saying the same thing, which is, we're gonna get really
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  Speaker 3: windy conditions. Usually really windy conditions opens the opportunity for
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  Speaker 3: some pretty big wave splits. But notice that, like these
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  Speaker 3: are all saying the wind is gonna be up. It's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be up and consistent all day every day, where
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  Speaker 3: we probably don't need to talk too much about wind splits.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know, anytime you have weather this severe,
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  Speaker 3: you can blindly play a wave stack and just kind
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  Speaker 3: of hope it breaks in your favor. So certainly not
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  Speaker 3: a posed to those wave stacks, but it just seems
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  Speaker 3: pretty clear that like we are going to get these
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  Speaker 3: windier difficult conditions, it's gonna be windy all day. We
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  Speaker 3: can take a quick look at direction. Here we get
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  Speaker 3: a western wind, a west wind, i should say, and
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  Speaker 3: then another west wind, so it looks like it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be pretty consistent from the west all week long,
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  Speaker 3: at least according to this model. So so yeah, like,
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  Speaker 3: I think it seems like every player is playing in
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  Speaker 3: the exact same conditions over and over again, and it's
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  Speaker 3: just about who's going to deal with those best and
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  Speaker 3: and so I'm definitely a lean into wind splits this week.
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  Speaker 3: But as far as it changes the course fit model, like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it changes it much, except for we've
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  Speaker 3: probably seen more approach and around the green signal than
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  Speaker 3: we saw last year. But the general theme here is
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  Speaker 3: still the field is not going to care enough about
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  Speaker 3: accuracy in the field is going to care too much
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  Speaker 3: about distance, just based on the length of the golf course.
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  Speaker 3: In the width of the golf course.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me swap this out then and pull this
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  Speaker 2: up real quick, and then I will swap over. We
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  Speaker 2: can look at sort of what you're seeing as the
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  Speaker 2: common or the chalk build if you will. I mentioned
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  Speaker 2: it earlier, so I already hinted that it some. But
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  Speaker 2: I think, like I said, the eight K range and
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  Speaker 2: this is just our initials again. Last week had a
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  Speaker 2: few different changes to it that we talked about. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, you know, Scotty last week doing the op
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  Speaker 2: like that was just we had it pegged on the show,
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  Speaker 2: and then I still went against it too and brought
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  Speaker 2: him way back down and then he went back up
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  Speaker 2: and it kind of messed everything up. But it's just
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  Speaker 2: one of those weeks where when Scotty's in there, it's
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  Speaker 2: always a little bit extra tricky to figure out. It's
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  Speaker 2: still turned out good overall, but the Scotty move, going
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  Speaker 2: back to day one of you bring it up with
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  Speaker 2: like the comminatorial ownership and then how things change and
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  Speaker 2: how much like one move can matter for your entire
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  Speaker 2: ownership projections. Way off on him, way off on who's
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  Speaker 2: the other guy? Somebody else got steamed last week? Shoot,
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  Speaker 2: there was somebody else that got really steamed last week.
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  Speaker 2: There was like a bit surprising off by like five
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  Speaker 2: or six percent from most places. But after that it
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  Speaker 2: was kind of good up the middle, So that was nice.
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  Speaker 2: But mentioned it earlier, the ak range here, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, Cole Taylor, Rye Fitzpatrick right, and definitely gonna
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  Speaker 2: be popular. I mean, these guys are all showing up.
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  Speaker 2: What are you sort of seeing coming into this one
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  Speaker 2: as the chalk build If you will.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much exactly what you just mentioned. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: AK range is loaded with chalk. We've got Ryan at thirty,
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  Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick Alex Fitzpatrick at twenty percent, Rye around thirty percent,
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  Speaker 3: Cole near twenty five percent, Calling near twenty percent, and
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  Speaker 3: then up top it does look like Tommy's kind of
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  Speaker 3: gonna separate and be his own level of chuck. But
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  Speaker 3: then you also have Burns and Wyndham Clark at twenty,
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick at sixteen, and I think the main thing that's
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: worth pointing out also Nikolai at like sixteen and a
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: half percent. But I think the biggest thing to point
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: out here is there's a very clear top tier of
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: player here where I think DraftKings really could have moved Fitzpatrick, Fleetwood,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Burns in Morikawa to upper ten k's even low eleven k's,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: leaving everyone else where they're at, and it would have
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: been a much more interesting decision at the top, and
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: maybe the low nine K range would have gotten more ownership.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: But right now it's just so easy to start with Tommy,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: then go hammer the eight K range and you're only
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: gonna need like two seven K guys to do that.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: You can go one six K guy and then get
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: a fifth eight K guy if you'd like. So, I
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: definitely think we're gonna see the eight K range just
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: loaded up on. And the interesting thing here is like
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: it's probably something at ninety five percent of the time
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: my lineup is more balanced than the average field lineup,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: and this week the field lineup, the Chalk build is
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: a really really balanced build, and so it's gonna be
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: very interesting to see kind of how we end up
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: wanting to pivot off of it. Are we going to
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: studs and duds for like the first time all year
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: when the when the field is on a balance build,
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: or are we trying to find our own version of
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: a more balanced build where maybe we're hammering like the
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: low nine K range something like that. So very very
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: interested in talking through this with you, because at the
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: moment I don't have my answer yet.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you you've nailed sort of the setup
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: of it though here, like I pick your poison, Like
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: some people are gonna go Putnam pot Eider feed now
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: whatever they end up going based on projections. I guess
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: my point is like this is a real nice four
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: to twenty right there. For the four twenty folks, I know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: go collects at sixty nine watching Noise yesterday. By the way,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: six nine sixty seven was on Sunday. Six nine was
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: yesterday June ninth, so the dates are in line as well.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: But if something like this just shows that the three
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: eight K guys should be pretty prevalent even in a
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Fleetwood lineup. And I know, like you've talked about, this
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: is a ton but just to rehash it, not everybody
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: watches every week, like someone says, Okay, I'm gonna do this,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: then I'm gonna go to like uh Alec Fitz and
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: then I'm gonna get Windham. Nobody will do this because
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: that puts a six K player in there. It's like, yeah,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: your Wyndham and one guy are different, but like your
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: other four are so popular with everything else. Yeah, but
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: it's four eight k's instead of three. It's still so
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: mixed into what everybody else doing. Doesn't mean it can't work. Obviously,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: anything can win hashtag Kevin Garnett anything as possible. People
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: know that one. But this is the setup of like
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: you know, we can find ways to get different off
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: of this. And I think one of the most interesting
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: things you said, I mean there's another quick build and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: then I'll go to what you said. What you said
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: was like how we could maybe go stars and scrubs,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and that's kind of my thoughts. But just to note it,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: what you know about PGA tor U number one, Ben James,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: This guy is projecting everywhere, as you know, somewhat decent
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: and you know in the models and sims and things
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: like that when you pull them out of them, he
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: is popping into these things. But it kind of lands
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: you on the perfect you know, like if Bud Cawley
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: was to get in with those guys you mentioned him
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: right away, I think he definitely is getting it. And again,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I don't love this line up I'm saying, but I
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: think that people are gonna find this or some very
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: similar variation. Right. It's like, oh, I will I won't
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: play Ryan Fleetwood because they're gonna be too popular, but
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I'll play the next most popular guy like Wyndham Clark,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: and I'll throw in you know, Fitzpatrick, and then maybe
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I can take Ben James up to seven k flat, right,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: somebody whoever you want to mention there, whether it's Ecro
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I think Mayo was talking about, you have to say
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that he liked, there's super there's other guys that you
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: see how these all project very similarly, but they all
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: still leave two to three eight K guys and mostly
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: three AK guys.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I let's talk about Ben James for a minute,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: because I think he's He's like an interesting kind of
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: case study, not just on should we be using him
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: this week, but also just I think talking about him
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: will give people a better understanding of how a lot
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: of projection models work, why he's projecting well, and why
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: that might be a little bit misleading. The thing to
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: notice is the vast majority of his events where we're
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: still getting signal, right, Like, we don't get data from
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: everything he does on or in his college events, but
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: we are still learning about how good he is in
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: those college events, and we can compare how his college
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: performance compares to like Luke Clinton's and other really good
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: young guys over the last few years who then get
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: PG starts. But in terms of starts where he had
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: shot linked data, they're only three this year or three
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: since the start of last year. The Valero Texas opened
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: last year, the US opened last year, the John Deere
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: last year. In two of those three events, his ball
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: striking was phenomenal. It was neutral at the John Deere,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: it was phenomenal. At the US Open, he putted really
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: poorly in the cut, it was phenomenal. At the Valero.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: He finished thirty third putting really really poorly, like losing
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: almost two strokes per round. So what most of these
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: projection models are doing is they're saying, when I look
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: at a player, the skills that are going to continue
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: into the future are ball striking, particularly off the tee,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: but then iron play as well, and putting is more
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: likely to change from the past into the future. So
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: when it sees a guy who's extreme in the sense
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: that like his ball striking his strength, his putting is
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: his weakness, it's going to give that guy a big
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: boost relative to like the observed strokes gained from that player.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: The problem with that is it's only a three event sample,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: and in those three events he only played eight rounds,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: and so you're only getting eight rounds of shot linked data. Yes,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: in those eight rounds, he was an outstanding ball striker
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: and a just like an atrocious putter. And we're talking
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: like a better ball striker than Rico Ho and a
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: worse putter than Rico Hooey, that's probably not sustainable for
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Ben James over a long period of time. Maybe it is,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: maybe he is like the Maybe he is Rico Hoey
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: on steroids Kurt Kadiyama on steroids in that way. But
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: chances are he's not quite as good of a ball
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: striker as we've seen, and he's not quite as poor
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: of a putter as we've seen, And so when models
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: are making an adjustment, they're over correcting and over regressing
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: the bad and not regressing the good enough. And so
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I think across the industry he's probably pretty severely over projected.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: That doesn't make him bad play. He still seems like
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: a very good, super talented young player and maybe we're
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: gonna see some instant success from him. But just from
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: like a modeling standpoint, that's that's like the mechanism of
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: why he would be really over projected.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: People think I'm serious when it says but maybe he's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: like the next Ludwig, which means you just come on
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: and crush and then suck on Sundays. That's what you do, right,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: But I will say, going back to it, that was
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: a great breakdown. But Smally who by the way, shot
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: plus fifteen and did not make the cut. Was the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: steam last week that just out of nowhere skyrocketed up
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: to almost like twenty percent at some point in some
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: tournaments even higher for like single injury and stuff. So
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I think that's interesting. Bart had asked earlier, you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: if you're building sixty lineups, could you disperse them into
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: three twenty max. Most certainly think that's fine if you
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: want a bigger you know, if you want to spread
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: out your portfolio. I think that's always the way that
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: you can go about it. If you're you know, trying
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: just to say, hey, I don't care which one comes through,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I just want to make sure something does. Yeah, it's
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: more your portfolio that you're managing from that perspective, So
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: let's just see.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: The one thing I'll the one thing I'll say on
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: that real quick is my hesitance there would be it's
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: probably hard to find three twenty macs that are similar
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: in terms of, you know, in the amount that you
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: have to invest into each lineup, the price point to
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: get in for each lineup, because you don't want to
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: add just this like purely random aspect of did I
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: happen to put the right set of lineups in the
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: right contest, Or did my best lineup go into a
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: twenty five cent when my worst lineups were all in
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: the five dollars and now I had one awesome lineup,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: but I still lost money. So typically I would say,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: you want to decrease as much of the variants as possible,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: since we're already playing a game that there's so much randomness,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: there's so much variance, it's already a battle to decrease
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: that variance and to actually recognize and realize our expected value.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing I'd look out for. If you
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: can find three contests that are similar structure, similar entry points,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: and maybe one's like really big and has a high
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: purse or is really top heavy, and now you can say, okay,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: what are my most valuable what are my highest upside,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: highest risk lineups? Like that would actually work really, really well.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: But if you're just putting them in three different contests
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: at various price points and you don't really have a
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: system for choosing which one goes where, then I think
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: it's a bad thing.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Bang, that's what I was jumping in and you did
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: it for me. Perfect segue. It's like we have great chemistry.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Now that's the key that people miss. And I talk
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: about this over i DFS Mastermind. It's a foundational piece
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: of what you have to start off with. If you
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: don't have any process for it, then yeah, to Alex's point,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: it's just you're just like ramping up variants for no reason,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and you could land in this type of position like
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: go collect says, imagine shipping the twenty five cent when
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you could have won six k in this first off
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I'll say setting it up. We had this conversation a
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: couple weeks ago with like the one hundred dollars, the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: two hundred dollar, and the two hundred dollars. There's a
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: different Those are more of this type of conversation. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: know we're talking here twenty max and that's single entry,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: but the concept of like the one hundred dollars only
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: five hundred people, the two hundred dollars only two hundred
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: and seventy seven people, the other two hundred dollar is
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: thirteen hundred people. You could and should have a process
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: for that if you were doing this taking this seriously,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: because like you're a two seventy seven field is much
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: different than a thirteen hundred person field and you can
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: figure it out. I've got great friends that play at
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the highest levels and on Sundays during NFL, this is
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the best time because tow Stad's point, you can't say
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I'm worth winning, first of all, by the way, because
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: your money is different than somebody else's money. Somebody else
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: winning one hundred dollars off of seventy five cents or whatever.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: The the you know the amount is the seventy high
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: scent tournament or the fifty cent. That's still massive, right,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: it's one hundred into a thousand. It's a thousand and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: a ten thousand to each their own. And I know
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: you said, not entry shaming, just noting it. You don't
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: get to decide what's worth winning for somebody. But his
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: point is that in golf it is tricky to find
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: these fields, to Bart's point earlier. So that's why I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: went to the single entry example. But in NFL, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: have really good friends that do this every week. And
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I was in I can't remember where which one it
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: was one of the King of the Beaches I was at,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and he he played the nine dollars slant, he played
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the forty dollars, won fifty max. Maybe it was like
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a one twenty max or somebody. It's the one that's
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: like super balanced structure, like every min cash is awesome
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: because it's still can boost it. And then he played
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the twenty dollars milli maker. He won the nine dollars
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: slang or sorry, he won the forty dollars for like
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: with a lineup that would have won the twenty dollars
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: million maker, and he was not shook at all. It
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: literally couldn't have been. There was no possibility that lineup
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: set ends up in the twenty dollars million maker because
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the twenty dollars million maker has two hundred thousand plus
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: people and the forty dollars had like fifteen thousand people
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: or or maybe even less. Honestly, it might have been
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: like eight thousand or something. But the point was that's
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: more advanced. But for most people playing to your point
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: is like you would have to look out for that
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: stuff and think about it differently. That's why I brought
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: up the single entry example and bounced around a little bit,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: because that one most people that are playing five hundred
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: bucks and just want to play three single entries. Any
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: of those scores back to Stat's point, are going to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: be worth winning, so well, it would suck to win.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Like again we'll say would suck. It's probably or most
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: likely somebody who has never even won one thousand dollars
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: winning five grand instead of thirty. Yeah, not as ideal,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: like you know it's six times last, but five grand
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: pretty big score. Ox the races, feeling good, finally found
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: success could have won you more elsewhere, but it's how
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you played it and you got to move on. So
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good topic of just like thinking
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: through it, you know, getting a foundation understanding that stuff,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and then and you never you never land in that spot.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: And we could go on for days, Alex. But I mean,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you think about this yourself, even playing when
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you know, typically playing single lineup in NFL. As an example,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: late swap don't late swap, just a late swap like
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you have to kind of late. Everyone knows it's a possibility,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: but it's like, why am I late swapping? What is
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: my process? And because what you don't want to do
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: is late swap today just because you feel I got
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: a feeling, and then next time it's like, well I
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: late swap because of projection, Well I late swap because
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: of risk or like, if you don't have a process
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: for it, it's probably just a good idea just to
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: leave it alone. Right, that's my thoughts. Anything you want
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to add to any of that stuff, I just I
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: want to chime in on all that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I agree with all of that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And the other thing I'd say is, I think there
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: are two ways that you can do this. Like the
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: first is you can build your lineups first and then say, okay,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: which lineup fits in which contest or which lineup set
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: fits in which contests. And then you can also say, okay,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I've got these contests that I'm already in. Now i'm
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: gonna go build this one, and now i'm gonna go
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: build that one. And now i'm gonna go build that one.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: And so you can do it either way, and that's
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: probably a personal preference thing. I think like optimally you
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: would do it the latter way, where you are you're
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: going one contest at a time and building specifically for
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: that contest. But I don't think you're gonna lose a
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: whole lot of you know, expect to value in things
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: of that nature if you are doing it the opposite way,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and you're building the lineups that you like first and
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: then figuring out which ones they best fit into.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, love that call, man, we can we can happily
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: move on here. Now, where do you want to go next?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, looking at the Chalk Build, I think again,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: we've talked about it enough weeks now, but just to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: say it again one more time is like, to me,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: it's not about the select plays within it, Like I
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: love that you broke down, still got him up there
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Benjamin James, and obviously he fits into that one version
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: of it, but just noting it. The overall build construck
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: is you know, two to three eight K guys, and honestly,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: if it could get further in some it could get
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: you know, down from three to two and some. But
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I see two eight k guys in most lineups here,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: which makes it pretty intriguing for the next segment, which
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: would be sort of how to leverage that? So do
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: you have anything else you want to add on the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Chalk Build? If not, let's start talking about how we
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: can leverage this baby up.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would definitely say that Benjamin James is probably
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: not in the Chalk build, So let's go. Let's start
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: I think we actually want to start in the eight
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: K range or with Tommy, but I like I would
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: throw in writing and writing Ryan Cole to start. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: think that's how most people are going to start or
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: It is the starting point with even Tommy in there,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: because again it could be someone else. But my point
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: is more like the Tommy version because of projections, actually
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: does want to put Ben James in there, because you
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: can just put Collie and then land on Ben James.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: It's a projection thing, like you explained perfectly. It's what
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, though, is I don't think enough people know
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: that or do it. By the way, there's gonna tons
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: of people out there are like, oh, Ben James is
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: gonna be chalk too, Yeah, like four percent like who
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: knows what he actually gets to and something stuff. But
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: again like ninety five percent of the people don't even
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: know who I'm talking about or who else was just
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: talking about right now. So my point being though, for
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the standard handbuilders, which is what I'm using here over
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: on the Stone two point zerot ship a nation, it's
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: like you have very clearly right here, seventy three hundred
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: per player left. Yes, I get Collees popular but like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: who else do you have in that mid range? Is
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: it gonna be like Putnam fenw Like who were you
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: seeing Tom Kim? What are some of the names down
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: here that you were seeing getting getting ownership?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Final Yellow, Miraju Grazerman, Putnam, Bosho, Tom Kim,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: maybe some with Homa Suber. But like as you kind
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: of just alluded to, we're not talking about, oh, these
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: guys have a chance to be twenty percent. It's like,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: these are the guys who have a chance to even
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: get to ten percent, and they it's like it absolutely
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: will not be the case that they all do. Maybe
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: two of these guys get to ten, maybe one of
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: them gets to fifteen to twenty, and that makes the
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: others five or six something like that, And so uh there,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: there's definitely not gonna be a lot of ownership down
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: here because you just don't have to go down here
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: very often. And when you do, like if if basically
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: if every single person in the field we're choosing between
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: like the seven to seven point four k range once
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: or twice in their lineups, you'd still see very spread
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: out ownership down here because there are so many guys
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: and there aren't any who really stand out as the
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: best plays, and so it's like these guys just don't
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: really have a chance to get a ton of ownership.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, just look at the number of players in
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: the eight K range. Let's see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: There are eleven guys in the eight K range. There are,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: like I'm just doing some quick math, at the time,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I had like forty three, forty four guys in the
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: seven K range. Like that's a massive discrepancy. And so
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: that's a big reason why the eight K ownership is
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: kind of concentrating so much more than the seven candership,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: simply because like Jefkins didn't allow a single player to
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: be overlapped in price until eight thousand dollars, and then
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: they have so many guys at seven point five, seven
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: point four, seven point thirty seven point two. So, uh,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: it's it's just a sheer volume thing, honestly.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't find it from last week I was
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: looking for while you were talking about it, because it's
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: gonna you know, everything you said lined up for this one,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: but one thing I'm gonna just go back to again.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I feel like I have a good read on it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: We'll see when numbers come out like in the finale. Obviously, Scotty,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I mean our our stuff. I know Fleetwood's gonna go
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: up and whatnot, But just in general the nine K range,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I just outside of like Man, I don't want to
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: just go to a rest of here, but outside of
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: like Windam, I just don't know how these guys get
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: They'll get something, yes, they'll be like ten percent, but
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: there's a massive difference. Again, like I said it last week,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: but if you've got Bobby Mack actually comes in at
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: ten percent, and then you've got Fleetwood at thirty, like,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: that's a massive dy diference. Oh he's double digits though
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: he is. He does happen to have a one on
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: a zero in front of his name, which is factually
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: double digits. But that is not the same as a
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: three and a zero in front of your name in Fleetwood.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I mean that is still massive leverage in builds there,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: not just from the you know, picks and plays perspective,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: but of like how the rest of the build could
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: shake out and all of that. So I definitely got
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: to think about this. But I can see Windham like
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: even the other one. You said it earlier, and I
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: don't know if I fully believe this either, but like,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: how does Nico go to ninety one hundred? We know
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: how he does? I mean you particularly, and then me
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: being beside you here. We've talked about it all season,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Like you your statement at the PGA Championship was, well,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: they've got a sixty eight hundred dollars guy that should
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: be eight thousand plus. So there's the first issue. But
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: he makes sense, like to me, and what you're gonna
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: probably say is like, that's we know why he's ninety
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: one hundred. But I don't think the clickers out there
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: want to be clicking ninety one hundred dollars Nico. When
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: you can go to writing, you can go to Fitzpatrick,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: you could even go to Norin, you could go above
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: the Rose, Bobby Mack, Wyndham Clark, and then all of
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: the ten k guys. I just don't know how these
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: ten k guys or these nine k guys can actually
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: get clicked.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I want to put in a formal request. I want
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Nikolai Hoygard to be Nikolai and Nico to exclusively refer
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: to Nico at your area.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good with that. I'm good with that, thank you.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Just it's the first thing that came to mind and
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: saw I believe it was in the chat there earlier
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: somebody said it. So I'm kind of stuck, but you
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: are one hundred percent correct, and I'm all about that game.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: So I love that call. Thank you for that. It's
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: a good co host here, Yea. What do you think
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: though on his ownership?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's he's in a range where like
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: it should be capped because anyone who likes Nikolai this week,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: like what is pointing you to him?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: It could be part of a distance stack. And so
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: if if there's a distance stack, it's it's harder to
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: find that in the eight k range, at least among
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: the chalk. Like you're not gonna go to Cole, You're
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: not gonna go to Rye, You're not gonna go to
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Alex Fitzpatrick. But you still can't go to Righte. You
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: can go to Brennan instead, you can, so you like
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: right you can pivot there. You're not going to go
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: to Callie, so you're going to land on different names.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: But in a distance stack, like you can still get Nikolai.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: You can still get Wyndham Clark, things of the nature,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: so you can still play a lot of guys who
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: are in form. But the other reason to land on
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Nikolay is because you're just playing guys who are playing
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: really well this season. I know he hasn't played it
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: as well in the last few weeks, but so it's
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: gonna be hard I think for most people though, to
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: click Nikolai when you can go down a little bit
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: and get right and Fitzpatrick, Rye cole Cally, or you
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: can go up just a little and get Wyndham, who's
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: like the one of the hottest players on tour. You
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: can go to Tommy, who's the best player in this field.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: You can go to Burns who's playing really well. It's
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: just that nikola is kind of in a no man's land,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: so I think that is going to keep his ownership
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: in check. Fifteen, sixteen, seventeen percent something like that. I'd
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: be very surprised if he got to twenty five. But
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I'd also be really surprised if he was ten percent.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want to see. So that's why
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like the twelve number might be correct because
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: enough people get to it, like there is this super
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: chalk veil that I wouldn't be playing myself, but just
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: noting it because I don't mind. I'll throw it up there.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: But it's like you still have what you said earlier.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: You've got the right and the cole the rye put
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Kali because we know he's kind of popping in the
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: seven k's and oh look at me, I'm different. I
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: got Nikolai and I got Nick Taylor. It's like that's
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: not very true. So there's that, but then there's like
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: alternate universe of that. To your point, Oh, I'm gonna
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: get sneaky, I'm gonna fade the ten K range. I'm
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: going with this, okay, plug in you know whoever Putnam
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: or Poteid or Fena or Yohoma or whoever here, like,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: no matter what, the nine K range just doesn't get.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: The eight K range doesn't ever go outside of two
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and every bill we've looked at, the nine K range
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: doesn't go more than one pretty much in any build
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: we've looked at. So I mean, I think we're moving on,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: but I do want to talk about it because, like
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: we said earlier, there is some interesting stuff if you
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: went with just like the driving accuracy stuff. You could
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: have like a more cowa Bobby Mack lineup, and you
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: know that is already a couple things, and everyone knows
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: this is one people confuse like, oh, you're just clicking
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the most look again initial ownerships. But I can't imagine
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: either of these guys get super popular, but you're just
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: clicking them to be different. It's like, no, there's a
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: couple things about it. We're looking now at a certain
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: roster construction. We're looking at a skill stack. We're looking
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: at how this actually fits the players around them. Like
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Sam Burns could be three X call him more Cow.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I think it was our guy Monday Dynamo, speaking of
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the the ownership, said more Cow and I late swap
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: him out of this turnt late swap himself. We just
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: saw him come back. I think it's like I think
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Mayo was saying yes, or maybe he finally had the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: kid or I don't know if we got confirmation of
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: that or whatever. But the point being, you could find
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: guys to fit in this after this, and you don't
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: even have to go in the eight K range. You
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: could go like one eight K guy and drop down
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: you could add another. What if you do windom and
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: you use wyndom to slice it. You slice a nice
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: windom by going one above and one just slightly below. Oh,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: now you still have seven thousand if you don't do
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: wind them. Maybe this is where a rose with seventy
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: one hundred comes in or back to Nikolai, like you
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: talked about, now you got seventy two hundred. We named
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: like five to six guys down there that you could
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: easily go with, and they would all fit this build
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: three nine's, three sevens and the seven K in a
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: different range than most people are landing. You're not just
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: landing on seventy four hundred or seventy eight hundred. You
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: can't even you're unlikely you can, but you're unlikely to
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: get to Bud Cawley in this So what are your
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: thoughts on something like a two or three nine K lineup?
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I like it. It actually kind of gets right to
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: a question that I was going to ask you, what
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: are your thoughts on on Hoveland? Because I think number one,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: like you can you can group Hoveland and Marikawa together
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: in the sense that, like, these are two guys who
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: are historically absolutely elite players with their irons, they're elite
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: with their accuracy off the tee. Hoveland's form hasn't been
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: as good, so you can toss that out there. But
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: at least with like Morikawa, we know he hasn't played
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: since the PGA Championship because he was expecting a baby
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: last week, and I assume he had it because otherwise
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: why is he here this week. So there's that we assume.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: And we assume Kat had it, but you know, his wife,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: but yeah, definitely most likely they had it. Yeah it
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: got you got it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Hoveland is weird because why in the world did he
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: skip the Memorial to play.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: In Canada That I have no idea, but I was
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: supposedly like I can't imagine there was a world where
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: he wanted that to be the outcome. It feels like
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: again and we all don't be where the injured golfer.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but the back spasm, you know,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: piece that was out there, and then on top of it,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: it's like that would not be intentional in my opinion.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: It's like, hey would love to play Memorial and win
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Jack's Tournament, not gonna be ready, gonna try and see
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: what it's like going into getting prepared for the Major.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: The week after, I just got to see if I
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: got it or not. But that's just my thoughts.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Matt's kind of that's kind of where I
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: am too. Is like it can't it seemingly can't say
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: something good about where he's at physically right because either
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: either it's like you said, he wasn't ready last week,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: now he feels ready, or it's he still isn't ready,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: but he feels like he needs just to get some
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: kind of reps in before the US Open. But to me,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: that's confusing. It's like, if I if I was really
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: unsure about how physically ready I am, and I want
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: to make sure that I can play the US Open,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: that I'm as prepared as possible. If I wasn't healthy
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: enough to tee it up at Jack's place last week,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: there's no chance I'm flying to Canada to go try
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: to play there instead of staying at home, getting whatever
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: practice I can in at home and making sure that
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I'm doing everything I possibly can to stay as healthy
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: as I possibly can for next week. It's just it's
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: really odd to me, and like the numbers aren't telling
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: me he's one of the absolute best plays of the
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: week that he's a good fit for the course. He's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: a good wind player, and he's going to be extremely
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: under owned, at least relative to his like general talent level.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: And he also kind of fits the the like, Hey,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: we can pivot off of the chalk build by loading
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: up on this low nine K range. I do really
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: like Rose. You've kind of mentioned Bobby mack a bunch already.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I think you can also throw Brooks Kopka into that.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I like Shane Lowry. He's a win specialist. So like,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: this is a range that I'm really interested in. Everything
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: about this play is like this is an Alex Blickel special.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: But I don't think I can click him this week
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: just because I have no confidence whatsoever in how he's
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: doing physically.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: That's right, and that's the this is the hard part.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: It's like, if you didn't have any validation after all
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the good points that you made, it's like you did
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: right that that's where it would be that would have
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: more merit to me. But you're like, Okay, I really
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I could get behind Rose. I could get behind McIntyre.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I could get you know, we talked about Nikolai, we
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: talked about you. I mean, you just mentioned Brooks Kapta.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: These guys just aren't getting played either, and to me,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: at least would have a little bit more. You know,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: it's not about just like safety. It's like I actually
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: think it's like the potential for the floor ceiling is there.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Vic has shown us like nothing and now everything you
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: just said, at least with these guys, we've seen signs
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: and it wouldn't shock me if a Justin Rose or
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: a Bobby Mack, and it wouldn't shock anybody for that matter.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: We're in the mix and getting the job done. So
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: you can still go with like the same theme but
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: end up on something like this like Mari Kawa, Rose,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Bobby Mack, and these are guys that could you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: find fair ways, grind it out, make some putts things
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: like that. If that happens, I mean, you're not landing
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: in a zone that anybody is landing in. Yet all
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: these plays down here still have a ton of projection value,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: right Like, I'm sure there's tons of guys within this
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the screen that you're seeing right now that you could say, Okay,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: some of these guys would definitely fit what we're building
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: out here. And there's just no way because even when
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: these numbers are just some You're gonna have three guys
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: under ten percent. There's a chance that at least one,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: if not two. Again, it's a chance maybe they're the
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: ten to twelve range, But I'm just saying there's there's
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: a high likelihood that I'll say it this way, that
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: all three of those guys on the screen on the
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: on the build are under fifteen percent, and there's a
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: chance a couple of them are even under ten slightly.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: So to me, it's not like too crazy or too wild.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: You're still building it accordingly. It's an upside construction. It
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: makes sense for the course, like all those factors. I
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: don't know if you have anything else you want to
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: add on that one, but that was just the first
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: thought that I had of like a way that you
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: could go, and that's that's not what my lane is.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: But I definitely will have lineups like that and even
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: some mains and stuff that I throw out there, because
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I think that's a definite way to find something that's
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: unique but not stupid.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I very much agree, and I think regardless of
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: like who your top players are in this range, you're
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: going to find under own guys. So whether you totally
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: disagree with what we're saying about Bobby Mack or you're
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: with me in the sense that, like you just can't
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: make yourself play holin this range, you can. You can
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: find somebody that you like, even if it's not the
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: same guys that we prioritize.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: The other option that we talked about earlier is it's
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: not like a secret. And again some people will land
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: on this, but I will say it's somewhat interesting to
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: me that it's it's definitely when people go up here
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: going to be Fleetwood Burns with a bunch of the
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: chalk together as opposed to I mean, well, I guess
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: combo wise, I don't think you'll see, you know, a
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: fits Fleetwood as much, you know what I mean, Like,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I think you'll see versions of this or also people
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: will lump Wyndham Clark into this, so you'll see like
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: a Fleetwood Clark or something where like a Burns Clark
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: maybe might might even be be even more popular, you
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, as like a combo pack, obviously
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Fleetwood being the most popular, but just saying when people
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: are comboing up sometimes they also go by tea time,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: and you could see where Burns and Clark would go
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: together if you were sort of doing that. So anyway,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: my point being, what are you what are your thoughts
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: on Fit? Specifically you asked me about Holin. I want
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: to go back to Fits for a second and then
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: just building this way, because well, you do land in
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the same range. There's a ton of options. I think
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: you said it earlier, forty three guys down there, you
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: could still get one eight k guy and then drop
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: down from there as well.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: He's not playing well, but he's still not playing poorly.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I think the biggest issue that I had with Fits
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: right now is that the driving has fallen off. Right
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: if it was just the putter, and the putter has
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: been bad and it was awful at the Memorial. If
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: it was just the putter would be one thing.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: But the.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Driving, which was like from the Phoenix Open through the
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: win at the Zurich, his driving was spectacular. He was
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: gaining almost like a full stroke per round off the tee.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Then he lost point eight per round at the Truest,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: gained point two at the PGA, and lost point zero
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: one at the Memorial. So like this big advantage that
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: he was creating for himself. He hasn't created since April
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: twenty sixth. That is a very real concern for me,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: because that's sort of what we saw as Like, the
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: thing that really turned around last year was that he
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: found the low stinger off the tee that consistently put
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: him in play and he could always go to it
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: every time he needed to hit a fair way, and
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: that really unlocked the rest of his game. The nice
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: thing is the approach playing there on the green play
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: is still spectacular. I mean, his short game has to
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: be among if not the best in the world right now,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: and so I do like that aspect if it does
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: indeed play tougher this year and we do actually get
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: that like increased around the green single. But I will
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: note surprisingly Fitzpatrick is not that good of a wind player,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: right Like. I think of some of the hardest, windiest
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: rounds of golf on tour in the last five years,
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: and I remember Fitzpatrick being like the only guy with
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: a great round that day a number of times. But
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: he's been really volatile. He also has some absolutely horrific
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: rounds in those windy conditions. So not quite as good
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: of a win players as I think most would think
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: of when they think of it, So something to keep
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: in mind with him there.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's always, you know, something to look at.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I think this is the other version I was looking
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: at as like the more popular version I think would
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: be like a Fleetwood burns. It does leave you seventy
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: four hundred. Do you have any just tips or advice?
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not about filling the lineup out, it's
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: looking for ways to sort of leverage it and move up.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: But just from your perspective, you do land in a
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: very popular range, Like you can still get Callie, you
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: can get them all, you can get all the popular
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: seventy four hundred dollars guys. Like, it's not like you're
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: gonna get that unique or different with it, depending but
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: you probably should in my opinion of just looking at it, like,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: there's so many options down there and so many ways
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: that you can go. But is there anything that you
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: would think differently when you're trying to leverage the chalk
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: bill with something where you're going double stud up top. Yeah.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I think like there are two main ways that you
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: can do this. The first is that you'd say, okay,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I can still now fit in and Colley and Maisner
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: or Calling and Fox or Colling and Cole. The problem
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: then is right, and and the thought process that most
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: would take if they made that pick with is they'd say,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: and then I've got to go into the six K
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: range twice, so I don't have to worry about ownership
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: because those six K guys are gonna be crazy low.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: The problem is now you're relying on like Kevin Roy
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: or Lee Hodges or Ben James or Luke Clinton as
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: your separators, and those guys are your least likely to
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: have success, and they're by far you're least likely to
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: give you a top five or a top ten outcome.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: So I think the better route to do this would
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: be to say, now that I have seventy four hundred
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: remaining for these last four spots or whatever it is,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go hammer like seven or four seven
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: point four K players, right, and there are like really
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: under owned guys at each range. Or maybe you go
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: to a seventy three, a seventy four, seventy four and
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: a seventy five something like that, But that's gonna keep
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: you in a range where you're avoiding the fluckiest of
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: the chalk plays, and so I would turn this type
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: of build into a pivot away from the more balanced
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: loading up on the AK range type of builds. Whereas
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: if you try to turn this into a line that
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: accesses that range, now you're getting too really really weak
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: spots that you need to do well to actually create
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: that separation for you, and they're far more likely to
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: like totally destroy you than they are to get anywhere
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: close to helping you the way that you need them to.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean this is you're hoping that the
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: AK range almost fails in this sometimes, and then on
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: top of it, that's why you want those upside seven
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: K guys that can get you out of there where
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: they're If the AK guys are mediocre, well, those seven
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: K guys are still helping them. But you've got you know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: nothing different up there. If you go this way and
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: just play different guys, I think that's fine. The other
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: thing I wanted to see though, just real quick, was
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: if you go like last one for me and then
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: we could sort of move on. Yeah you can't. I mean,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want, but it just one
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: way I was looking at it is like if you
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: went something like this, let's just use this example. I
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: think if I was using two six K guys, I'd
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: rather it be in this way, Like, how can I
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: play a write in a completely different way? It's only
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: one eight K guy, I'm just making this up as
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: not the three that I like, we talked about these guys,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying, at least then in the two six
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: K build, it would only be one eight K guy
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: that you'd be relying on the one that everybody's relying on.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: But you would literally again, could you be in the
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: seven K range? Yes, but it might be better off
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: to find like a sixty nine and a sixty five
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: or a sixty eight and a sixty six or something
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: like that. Is just a way to play it. Extremely
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: unique in this perspective, from this perspective as well. So yeah,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I think that's good man. I think we covered a
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: lot of ways to sort of go through it. We'll
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: get to our lanes at the end. Anything else you
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: wanted to add there before we get to one and done.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: No, I think you said that really well, and I'm
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: in complete agreement that this is a better way to
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: use that six K range.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of ways to use the different ranges based
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: on those explanations, I think, but what a lot of
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: people will have to do here is decide at the
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: top what they want to do. Or if you have
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: a really clean cut, like I only like these guys
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: up top, well, then you can take a lot of
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: what we just talked about and start to make those
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: decisions down low. If you love the bottom, you could
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: start to say I'm going to lock in on these
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: and then move it up from there and go back.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: It just yeah, it just changes what you're asking of
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: the six K range, right, Like you had three separators
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: there who were around nine K. Like, those guys have
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: a legitimate upside, and if those guys hit, if your
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: separators hit, now what are you asking of those six
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: K guys. You're not asking them to help separate, You're
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: just asking them to do decently well, you just hold
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: that advantage that you just created for yourself in that
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: nine K range. So I think that's probably like the
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: easiest way to think about it, and is just what
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: am I actually asking of these players? If those six
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: K guys are your only real differentiation from the field
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: and you need them to be separators, that's not a
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: good bet to make. If you just need them to
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: finish thirtieth fortieth. Now they're much much much better plays.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's move on to one and done.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: What do we got for this week? And what are
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: your thoughts as we go into this one?
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: I have I have no idea what we should do
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: at this point. We are. We are very much in trouble.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't play the chock, that's for sure. I
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people still have, like you know,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: this is one thing where we again, it'll be different
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: for everybody, but my name. My main takeaway is like
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I was looking at the Mayo Cup today with my
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: dad's choices and stuff and looking at that and like
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: everyone has Sam Burns and some of these bigger names
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: there that they can use, So I think those guys
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: will just be extremely popular. So it really comes down like,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: if you're way behind, let's look for some leverage hence
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: the name leverage lane, and find our way to try
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: and find our own lane versus using the same one
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: everybody else is.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the three most popular. I would guess Burns,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Windham writing yeah.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent on right, and I believe was the number.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a name that I'm gonna hate myself
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: for throwing up there because I don't think he can win.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: He's allergic to be near the lead. But Shane Lowry,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: with how ridiculously good he is in the wind and
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: the fact that I know I will never ever ever
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: want to play him in an elevated event, I think
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: he's a pretty good option this week.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I like that call quite a bit. I did bring
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: it up yesterday talking to Mayo as well, and I
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: know it's a totally different course and all of that,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: but he likes coming up to Canada, jolly oldfellow. I
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: was having a good time, So I do like that
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: of it, but nothing to do with that obviously. I
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: like the way you worded that, but realistically, that's where
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: people need to remove their bias and things like that
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: when it comes to it, because it's what you said,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: it's like, I feel really disgusting. He's probably not gonna win, etcaid.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: But like, if you play Burns and he does it, great,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: you got the same thing everybody else got out of him.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: It's like you need to find a way to leverage that.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: You really want to hope for that outcome where it's
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: like Lowry, does you know finish second or third or
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: maybe even somehow get it done, and Burns just doesn't
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: do well at all, and you're now picking up real
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: money on Lowry when nobody else knows there has any
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: idea where they're going to get it from or maybe
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: even need him, and they get hurt by not getting
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: much money out of somebody else. That's kind of the
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: concept there.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Here's just to put some context on why it feels
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: so gross. Think about, now, Burns was actually decent last
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: week when in contention, but think about how bad Burns
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: has been in contention, Think about how bad Keith Mitchell
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: has been in contention and Michael Thorpejornson has been winning contention,
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: and then realize the Chane Lowry is significantly worse in
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: contention performance score than those three guys. So he is,
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: like I said, I mean, he got within like five
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: of the lead on Sunday after going Birdie Birdie eagle
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: and totally lost it. So you were absolutely running the
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: risk of being one hundred percent correct that he would
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: play well and that he gets himself into contention and
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: still walking away with like fourteenth place and nothing valuable
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: whatsoever in one and done because he just loses all
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: the advantage that he gains for himself. But in terms
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: of of like who's somebody that has a really good
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: chance of getting into contention and isn't going to be
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: a popular one and done pick, I don't think we
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: can do any better than shamee.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also I think it's interesting too, just like you're
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: kind of looking for a perfect scenario of last week,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Like let's have like a Post and Gerard playoff in
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Canada like some not those two, but like the version
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: of that that nobody is on in one and done
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: and you have like, yeah, Lowry was in attention, fell
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: to a third, that's what he does. It's like, okay,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: but I'll still take that because as long as Burns
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: and Fleetwood and Windham and Right and then guys like
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: that don't win, I'll still have that opportunity and get
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: something out of him from that perspective. So I like
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: that call. We can go with him betting breakdown. I
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: think you sent it a live one while you're here,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: But do you have anything you want to discuss live here? Yeah?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: I did just send it out and we were talking
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: about him. Actually, we were talking about the nine K
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: range and I was looking at Rose and he was
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: second Teta Green last week, like I had, I had
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: an outright on him last week. He should have won.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: He really should have. He lost point nine strokes a
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: round putting, and we're talking about one of the better
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: putters in the world, especially once in contention, and he
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: was phenomenal Teita Green. I love the way he drove
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: the ball. He's a really good wind player, So I
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: like everything about Rose right now. His irons have been
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: spectacular all season. He started the year really good with
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: his driver. He ran some trouble with driver, like at Pebble,
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: at the Genesis, and then really at Api. He struggled
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: with the driver, but he's gotten it back. He's hitting
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: it further than he did in a few previous seasons,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: but significantly more accurate than he has in the last
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: few years. So you put the rest of his game
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: with improved driving. His short game has been awesome, his
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: approach play has been excellent, and we know how good
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: he can be with the putter, so I really like
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: his outright. He's also, by the way, still one of
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: the best contention performance scores and one of the most
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: volatile event to event players, and so from just an
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: upside person, like it's really hard to beat Rose, and
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: for that reason, like we actually have him at four
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: point nine percent to win, tied for the best win
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: odds in the field. You can get him at forty
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: to one with with bet three six five's one fifth
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: each way for three spots. So that's my outright of
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: the week. It's the only one I have so far.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I might add to it, but I really really like
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: that one.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Uh, we had didn't you have Rose the
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: earlier in the season.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had him at a what was it Torri
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: that he won, uh, and it was like just the
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: easiest outright win of all time and they never got
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: sweaty for a single moment. And hopefully he does that
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: again because that was a lot of fun.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another thought as well too. Should be
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: a good showdown week, I think gone there and again.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Lots of satellites, so going to be getting into that.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: I think Timmy Dubbs asked the boat like Bridgeman is
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: the one and done. I'm fine, he's kind of outside
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: the box a little bit too nowhere that I'd be
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: hoping that, you know, save him for or anything like that.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: All Right, leverage lane for the week, and I've got mine.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna simplify it. You know, somebody said, I told
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: you earlier it wouldn't be this because I actually don't
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: know yet what it's going to finalize. But I'm going
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: to play no eight K guys in my single entry,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: not just despite it. I just think we talked through
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: like three to four scenarios where I don't require any
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: There is a scenario where one could work, like I said,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna commit to the bit because I think,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: like in reality, I have like three or four different
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: versions of what I'm looking at that require none of
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: those popular eight K guys, And you know, every other
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: week it's going to be in the opposite So why
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: not stick with it and go to the opposite side
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: of that. What's your leverage lane for the week?
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Mine's going to be just leaning into wind splits and
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: guys who I think should play well in the wind.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Like I said, the part about the course that I'm
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: least confident in this week is just like what skill
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: sets is it going to emphasize because we only have
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: one year's worth of data and the conditions are going
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: to be so so different, So The thing that I'm
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: actually confident in is it's going to be really windy,
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: and you're going to have to control your ball in
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: this wind, both off the tee, especially with your approach play,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: you know, being able to flight the ball, being able
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: to turn the ball into in both directions based on
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: the on the wind. I do want to look at
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: with a wind direction, like I said earlier, and how
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: that actually affects Part fives mostly is do I think
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: a distance is going to be more predicted than it
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: was last year as a result. But the one constant,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: the thing that I know is going to be true
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: is guys who know how to play and know how
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: to flight their ball in the wind, know how to
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: make putts in the wind is also a big key,
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: like those guys are are going to have really good
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: chances for success because a lot of the time when
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: we talk about like hey, it's gonna be really windy
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: this week, it's it's gonna be windy Thursday and Friday,
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: and so it's important to care about the wind to
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: get to the weekend. Or it's gonna be windy on
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: the weekend, but it's not gonna be windy on Thursday
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: and Friday, it's going to be windy throughout every single
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: day all four days. It looks like, so you better
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: have some chops in the wind. And I have a
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: really kind of specific way of doing my wind split
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: analysis where I don't just look at how much better
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: or how well a guy does in the wind, but
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: I reference that compared to his baseline, So who's playing
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: better in windy conditions than in calm conditions? And then
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: the other thing I like looking at is who gains
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: strokes more often at a higher frequency and wind than
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: they do outside of that, So it's not just about like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this guy has been fine in the wind, but then
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  Speaker 3: he had one awful week in the wind, and consequently
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  Speaker 3: his like average is really bad, but he still gains
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  Speaker 3: more often than not. So all of that stuff will
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  Speaker 3: be in my discord. You can check that out. But
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  Speaker 3: that's that's my leverage lane is just kind of really
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  Speaker 3: leaning into that. And and I think one like reason
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  Speaker 3: for doing that is because it's it's a hard thing
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  Speaker 3: for the average DFS player to do because not everyone
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  Speaker 3: has access to that data, not everyone knows how to
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  Speaker 3: actually use that data in a really productive way. Then
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  Speaker 3: you know they're just looking at, oh, who have been
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  Speaker 3: the best players in the wind Fitzpatrick, Tommy Fleetwood, Sam Burns. Oops,
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  Speaker 3: this is just a list of who the best players are.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, finding those guys who are actually going
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  Speaker 3: to outperform their baselines or conversely who might underperform their
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  Speaker 3: baselines is a really good way to do it. And uh,
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  Speaker 3: and that's going to be hopefully paths of success this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost saying too the Euros and even Pat
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  Speaker 2: Manshito yesterday too. It's like a no, no American hecklers.
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  Speaker 2: There are very few up in Canada, so maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: part of the cause as well. But definitely like that
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  Speaker 2: you talked about your discord having that stuff. Let the
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  Speaker 2: people know about your discord where they can find you,
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  Speaker 2: and then we'll get out of here.
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  Speaker 3: At alex plicka one on Twitter you can find the
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely get in there if you guys aren't already.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be looking out for the wind data later when
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  Speaker 2: you've got it this, you know, Hotchdog says, it's is
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  Speaker 2: it also going to be really firm? Windy plus firm
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  Speaker 2: could be super card you could see, like, who knows
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  Speaker 2: how it actually goes. The tempts are okay, but I
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: don't know. You seem like you got other thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's going to be that firm,
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  Speaker 3: just because some of the wind is because there are
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  Speaker 3: storms in the area, so it looks like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they I think they've had someone some precipitation already this week.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like they are gonna have some overnight tonight
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  Speaker 3: and then maybe some more on Friday, and then definitely
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  Speaker 3: it looks like storms on Sunday. So I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be crazy for him. I think it's just
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  Speaker 3: gonna be windy.
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