Latest / Verbal Diorama / Short Circuit (1986)
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- 1:35Hi,
- 1:35everyone,
- 1:35I'm
- 1:36Em,
- 1:36and
- 1:36welcome
- 1:36to
- 1:37Verbal
- 1:37Diorama,
- 1:37episode
- 1:38338
- 1:40Short
- 1:40Circuit.
- 1:41This
- 1:42is
- 1:42the
- 1:42podcast
- 1:42that's
- 1:42all
- 1:43about
- 1:43the
- 1:43history
- 1:43and
- 1:43legacy
- 1:44of
- 1:44movies
- 1:44you
- 1:44know
- 1:44and
- 1:45movies
- 1:45you
- 1:45don't
- 1:46that
- 1:46loves
- 1:47input.
- 1:48And
- 1:48this
- 1:48podcast
- 1:49is
- 1:49the
- 1:49output
- 1:50of
- 1:50ofof
- 1:51thatinput.Call
- 1:52meEmmy5,I
- 1:54guess.
- 1:55Welcome
- 1:55to
- 1:55Verbal
- 1:56Diorama.
- 1:56Whether
- 1:56you're
- 1:56a
- 1:56regular
- 1:57returning
- 1:57listener,
- 1:57whether
- 1:58you're
- 1:58a
- 1:58brand
- 1:58new
- 1:58listener,
- 1:59thank
- 1:59you
- 1:59so
- 1:59much
- 2:00for
- 2:00being
- 2:00here.
- 2:00Thank
- 2:00you
- 2:00so
- 2:00much
- 2:01for
- 2:01choosing
- 2:01to
- 2:01listen
- 2:01to
- 2:01this
- 2:02podcast.
- 2:03I'm,
- 2:03as
- 2:03always,
- 2:03so
- 2:04happy
- 2:04to
- 2:04have
- 2:04you
- 2:04here
- 2:04for
- 2:05the
- 2:05history
- 2:05and
- 2:05legacy
- 2:06of
- 2:06Short
- 2:06Circuit.
- 2:08And
- 2:08if
- 2:08you
- 2:08are
- 2:08a
- 2:08regular
- 2:09returning
- 2:09listener,
- 2:09thank
- 2:10you
- 2:10so
- 2:10much
- 2:10for
- 2:10continuing
- 2:11to
- 2:11return
- 2:12to
- 2:12this
- 2:12podcast
- 2:12and
- 2:13support
- 2:13this
- 2:13podcast
- 2:14for
- 2:15as
- 2:15long
- 2:15as
- 2:15you
- 2:16have
- 2:16continued
- 2:17to
- 2:17listen
- 2:17and
- 2:17support
- 2:17this
- 2:18podcast,
- 2:18whether
- 2:18that's
- 2:19within
- 2:19the
- 2:19last
- 2:19year
- 2:19or
- 2:20whether
- 2:20that's
- 2:20within
- 2:20the
- 2:20last
- 2:21seven
- 2:21years.
- 2:22Thank
- 2:22you
- 2:22so
- 2:22much
- 2:23for
- 2:23your
- 2:23support.
- 2:23It
- 2:23genuinely
- 2:24means
- 2:24so
- 2:25much
- 2:25to
- 2:26an
- 2:26indie
- 2:26podcaster
- 2:27who
- 2:27does
- 2:27all
- 2:28of
- 2:28this
- 2:28all
- 2:28by
- 2:29herself.
- 2:29So
- 2:30from
- 2:30the
- 2:30bottom
- 2:31of
- 2:31my
- 2:31heart,
- 2:31thank
- 2:31you
- 2:32so
- 2:32much
- 2:32for
- 2:32coming
- 2:33back
- 2:33to
- 2:33this
- 2:33podcast.
- 2:34This
- 2:35year
- 2:35has
- 2:35been
- 2:35a
- 2:35bit
- 2:35of
- 2:35a
- 2:35whirlwind
- 2:36on
- 2:36this
- 2:36podcast,
- 2:37actually,
- 2:37because
- 2:38I
- 2:38started
- 2:38with
- 2:39Animation
- 2:39season,
- 2:40then
- 2:40I
- 2:40took
- 2:41a
- 2:41little
- 2:41bit
- 2:41of
- 2:41an
- 2:41extended
- 2:42break,
- 2:43and
- 2:44then
- 2:44I
- 2:44wanted
- 2:44to
- 2:45do
- 2:45something
- 2:45for
- 2:46International
- 2:46Women's
- 2:47Month,
- 2:47which
- 2:47is
- 2:47obviously
- 2:48in
- 2:48March,
- 2:49and
- 2:49aandndwhilemyextendedbreakledtoa
- 2:52shorter
- 2:52month
- 2:53than
- 2:53usual
- 2:53for
- 2:54the
- 2:54podcast,
- 2:55it
- 2:55was
- 2:55pretty
- 2:55packed
- 2:56with
- 2:56five
- 2:57Spice
- 2:57Girls
- 2:58and
- 2:58the
- 2:58literal
- 2:59Mockingjay.
- 3:00While
- 3:00there
- 3:00was
- 3:01no
- 3:01Spice
- 3:01World
- 3:02sequel,
- 3:02not
- 3:03for
- 3:03lack
- 3:03of
- 3:03trying.
- 3:04Listen
- 3:04to
- 3:04that
- 3:04episode
- 3:05for
- 3:05more.
- 3:05There
- 3:05are
- 3:06several
- 3:06Hunger
- 3:06Games
- 3:07sequels
- 3:07and
- 3:07a
- 3:08prequel
- 3:08and
- 3:09another
- 3:09prequel
- 3:09coming.
- 3:10And
- 3:10I've
- 3:10tentatively
- 3:11scheduled
- 3:12Catching
- 3:12Fire
- 3:12for
- 3:13later
- 3:13on
- 3:13this
- 3:13year
- 3:14on
- 3:14the
- 3:14podcast,
- 3:15but
- 3:15regular
- 3:16listeners
- 3:16will
- 3:17know
- 3:17that
- 3:17sometimes
- 3:18the
- 3:18schedule
- 3:18moves
- 3:19around
- 3:19and
- 3:20you
- 3:20guys
- 3:20know
- 3:20what
- 3:21the
- 3:21schedule
- 3:21gets
- 3:21like
- 3:22because
- 3:22there's
- 3:22way
- 3:23too
- 3:23many
- 3:23movies
- 3:23and
- 3:24not
- 3:24enough
- 3:24of
- 3:25me
- 3:25to
- 3:25do
- 3:25episodes
- 3:26on
- 3:26those
- 3:26movies.
- 3:27However,
- 3:27I
- 3:28have
- 3:28serious
- 3:28intent
- 3:29to
- 3:29go
- 3:29Back
- 3:30to
- 3:30the
- 3:30Hunger
- 3:30Games
- 3:30for
- 3:31Catching
- 3:31Fire
- 3:31later
- 3:32on
- 3:32this
- 3:32year.
- 3:33Fingers
- 3:33crossed
- 3:34I'll
- 3:34get
- 3:34around
- 3:34to
- 3:35doing
- 3:35that.
- 3:36This
- 3:36month,
- 3:36I
- 3:37wanted
- 3:37to
- 3:37focus
- 3:37on
- 3:38something
- 3:38a
- 3:38little
- 3:38bit
- 3:38different.
- 3:39We're
- 3:39now
- 3:40in
- 3:40April,
- 3:41and
- 3:41I
- 3:41wanted
- 3:42to
- 3:42look
- 3:42at
- 3:43our
- 3:43ongoing
- 3:44cinematic
- 3:44relationship
- 3:45with
- 3:45AI
- 3:46which
- 3:46is
- 3:47a
- 3:47topic
- 3:47rarely
- 3:47out
- 3:48of
- 3:48the
- 3:48news
- 3:48for
- 3:48both
- 3:49good
- 3:49and
- 3:49bad
- 3:49reasons.
- 3:51And
- 3:51I
- 3:51wanted
- 3:51to
- 3:51start
- 3:52this
- 3:52journey
- 3:52in
- 3:52the
- 3:5280s,
- 3:53before
- 3:53the
- 3:53end
- 3:54of
- 3:54the
- 3:54Cold
- 3:54War.
- 3:55And
- 3:55how
- 3:55we
- 3:56needed
- 3:56Number
- 3:57Five
- 3:57to
- 3:58allay
- 3:58some
- 3:58of
- 3:59our
- 3:59fears
- 3:59over
- 4:00AI,
- 4:00military
- 4:01and
- 4:01weapons
- 4:02of
- 4:02mass
- 4:02destruction.
- 4:03And
- 4:04honestly,
- 4:04this
- 4:04movie
- 4:05might
- 4:05be
- 4:0540
- 4:05years
- 4:06old
- 4:06this
- 4:06year,
- 4:07but
- 4:07number
- 4:08five
- 4:08has
- 4:08aged
- 4:09beautifully.
- 4:11The
- 4:11movie
- 4:11Short
- 4:12Circuit,
- 4:12not
- 4:13quite
- 4:13so
- 4:13much.
- 4:14And
- 4:15the
- 4:15strategic
- 4:15artificially
- 4:16intelligent
- 4:17nuclear
- 4:18transport
- 4:19are
- 4:19just
- 4:19as
- 4:19good
- 4:19at
- 4:20making
- 4:20gin
- 4:20and
- 4:21tonic
- 4:21as
- 4:22they
- 4:22are
- 4:22at
- 4:23throwing
- 4:23up
- 4:23tanks.
- 4:24Here's
- 4:24the
- 4:24trailer
- 4:25for
- 4:25Short
- 4:26Circuit.
- 5:49Number
- 5:49Five,
- 5:49one
- 5:49of
- 5:50a
- 5:50group
- 5:50of
- 5:50experimental
- 5:51military
- 5:51robots,
- 5:52undergoes
- 5:53a
- 5:53sudden
- 5:53transformation
- 5:54after
- 5:54being
- 5:55struck
- 5:55by
- 5:55lightning.
- 5:56He
- 5:57develops
- 5:57self
- 5:57awareness,
- 5:58consciousness
- 5:59and
- 5:59a
- 5:59fear
- 6:00of
- 6:00the
- 6:00reprogramming
- 6:01that
- 6:01awaits
- 6:01him.
- 6:02Back
- 6:02at
- 6:02the
- 6:02factory,
- 6:03Disassembled,
- 6:04is
- 6:05dead.
- 6:06With
- 6:06the
- 6:06help
- 6:06of
- 6:06local
- 6:07animal
- 6:07rescuer
- 6:08Stephanie
- 6:08Speck,
- 6:09Number
- 6:09Five
- 6:10tries
- 6:10to
- 6:10evade
- 6:11capture
- 6:11and
- 6:12convince
- 6:12his
- 6:13creator,
- 6:13Newton
- 6:14Crosby,
- 6:14Ph.D.
- 6:15that
- 6:15he
- 6:16is
- 6:16more
- 6:16than
- 6:16just
- 6:17a
- 6:17malfunctioning
- 6:18machine
- 6:18and
- 6:19that
- 6:19he
- 6:19has
- 6:19truly
- 6:20become
- 6:20alive.
- 6:22Let's
- 6:23run
- 6:23through
- 6:23the
- 6:23cast.
- 6:24We
- 6:24have
- 6:24Ali
- 6:25Sheedy
- 6:25as
- 6:26Stephanie
- 6:26Speck
- 6:27Steve
- 6:27Gutenberg
- 6:28as
- 6:28Newton
- 6:29Crosby,
- 6:29Ph.D.
- 6:31fisher
- 6:31Stevens
- 6:32as
- 6:32Ben
- 6:33Jabituya,
- 6:34Austin
- 6:35Pendleton
- 6:35as
- 6:36Dr.
- 6:36Howard
- 6:36Marner,
- 6:37G.W.
- 6:38bailey
- 6:39as
- 6:39Captain
- 6:39Scroder,
- 6:41Brian
- 6:41McNamara
- 6:42as
- 6:42Frank
- 6:43and
- 6:43Tim
- 6:44Blaney
- 6:44as
- 6:45the
- 6:45voice
- 6:45of
- 6:45number
- 6:45five.
- 6:46Short
- 6:47Circuit
- 6:47was
- 6:47written
- 6:48by
- 6:48S.S.
- 6:48wilson
- 6:49and
- 6:49Brent
- 6:50Maddock
- 6:50and
- 6:51was
- 6:51directed
- 6:51by
- 6:52John
- 6:52Badham.
- 6:54Forty
- 6:54years
- 6:54ago,
- 6:55a
- 6:55little
- 6:55robot
- 6:55called
- 6:56Number
- 6:56Five
- 6:56defied
- 6:57his
- 6:57programming
- 6:58and
- 6:58went
- 6:59from
- 6:59a
- 6:59war
- 6:59machine
- 7:00to
- 7:00a
- 7:00sentient,
- 7:01sweet,
- 7:02lovable
- 7:02and
- 7:03very
- 7:03much
- 7:03alive
- 7:04robot.
- 7:05Sentient
- 7:06robots
- 7:06have
- 7:06been
- 7:07present
- 7:07in
- 7:07Cinema
- 7:07for
- 7:07over
- 7:08100
- 7:08years,
- 7:09but
- 7:09the
- 7:09most
- 7:09notable,
- 7:10earliest
- 7:10example
- 7:11was
- 7:11probably
- 7:12the
- 7:12Maschinenmensch
- 7:13from
- 7:14Fritz
- 7:14Lang's
- 7:151927
- 7:15film
- 7:16adaptation
- 7:16of
- 7:17his
- 7:17then
- 7:17wife
- 7:18Thea
- 7:18von
- 7:18Habu's
- 7:19novel
- 7:19Metropolis,
- 7:20which
- 7:20is
- 7:21regarded
- 7:21as
- 7:21one
- 7:21of
- 7:21the
- 7:22most
- 7:22pioneering,
- 7:23important
- 7:23and
- 7:24influential
- 7:24science
- 7:25fiction
- 7:25films
- 7:25of
- 7:26all
- 7:26time.
- 7:27The
- 7:27Machine
- 7:27and
- 7:28Mensch,
- 7:28or
- 7:28Human
- 7:29machine,
- 7:30sometimes
- 7:30called
- 7:30Maria
- 7:31or
- 7:31Futura,
- 7:32was
- 7:32played
- 7:33by
- 7:33Brigitte
- 7:33Helm.
- 7:34Though
- 7:34not
- 7:35sentient
- 7:35in
- 7:35the
- 7:36modern
- 7:36sense,
- 7:36she
- 7:37is
- 7:37programmed
- 7:38with
- 7:38human
- 7:38like
- 7:38will
- 7:39and
- 7:39emotion,
- 7:39and
- 7:40her
- 7:40design
- 7:41influenced
- 7:41virtually
- 7:42every
- 7:42robot
- 7:43that
- 7:43followed.
- 7:44In
- 7:44the
- 7:441950s,
- 7:45Robbie
- 7:45the
- 7:45Robot
- 7:46appeared
- 7:46in
- 7:46Forbidden
- 7:47Planet.
- 7:48Capable
- 7:48of
- 7:48conversation,
- 7:49reasoning
- 7:50and
- 7:50moral
- 7:51decision
- 7:51making,
- 7:52he
- 7:52refuses
- 7:53orders
- 7:53that
- 7:53would
- 7:54harm
- 7:54humans.
- 7:55Anticipating
- 7:56Asimov's
- 7:56laws,
- 7:58in
- 7:58the
- 7:5870s,
- 7:59we
- 7:59had
- 7:59C3PO
- 8:00and
- 8:00R2D2
- 8:01in
- 8:01Star
- 8:02wars
- 8:02and
- 8:03they
- 8:03are
- 8:03easily
- 8:04the
- 8:04most
- 8:04beloved
- 8:05robot
- 8:05duo
- 8:05in
- 8:06film,
- 8:06clearly
- 8:07possessing
- 8:07personality
- 8:08and
- 8:08emotional
- 8:09attachment
- 8:09as
- 8:10well
- 8:10as
- 8:10sentience.
- 8:12By
- 8:12the
- 8:12time
- 8:12the
- 8:1380s
- 8:13rolled
- 8:13around,
- 8:14we'd
- 8:14already
- 8:15had
- 8:15Roy
- 8:15Batty
- 8:16and
- 8:16the
- 8:16Replicants
- 8:16in
- 8:17Blade
- 8:17Runner.
- 8:18Biosynthetic
- 8:19beings
- 8:19who
- 8:19experienced
- 8:20fear,
- 8:21love
- 8:21and
- 8:21existential
- 8:22grief
- 8:23about
- 8:23their
- 8:23own
- 8:24mortality.
- 8:25And
- 8:25the
- 8:25Terminator
- 8:26in
- 8:27the
- 8:27Terminator.
- 8:28A
- 8:28cold,
- 8:29adaptive,
- 8:29relentless
- 8:30machine
- 8:30with
- 8:31a
- 8:31singular
- 8:31terrifying
- 8:32purpose
- 8:33who
- 8:33wasn't
- 8:33exactly
- 8:34sentient,
- 8:35but
- 8:35could
- 8:35be
- 8:36reprogrammed
- 8:37and
- 8:37eventually
- 8:38became
- 8:38sentient.
- 8:39Skynet
- 8:40was
- 8:40sentient
- 8:41and
- 8:41learned
- 8:42to
- 8:42mistrust
- 8:42humanity
- 8:43and
- 8:43use
- 8:44its
- 8:44sentience
- 8:44to
- 8:45take
- 8:45over
- 8:45the
- 8:45world
- 8:46with
- 8:46potentially
- 8:47apocalyptic
- 8:48consequences.
- 8:49And
- 8:49because
- 8:50of
- 8:50all
- 8:50of
- 8:50this,
- 8:51through
- 8:51this
- 8:51month,
- 8:52which
- 8:52I've
- 8:52coined
- 8:53aopril.
- 8:54The
- 8:54idea
- 8:55is
- 8:55to
- 8:55cross
- 8:55the
- 8:56decades
- 8:56and
- 8:56see
- 8:56the
- 8:57changes
- 8:57in
- 8:58artificial
- 8:58intelligence
- 8:59in
- 8:59cinema
- 9:00starting
- 9:00in
- 9:01the
- 9:0180s
- 9:01and
- 9:01then
- 9:02moving
- 9:02into
- 9:02the
- 9:022000s,
- 9:032010s
- 9:04and
- 9:042020s.
- 9:06I
- 9:06didn't
- 9:06miss
- 9:06the
- 9:0790s
- 9:07on
- 9:07purpose.
- 9:08That
- 9:08was
- 9:09just
- 9:09how
- 9:09the
- 9:09schedule
- 9:10arranged
- 9:10itself.
- 9:11But
- 9:11it
- 9:11is
- 9:11fascinating
- 9:12to
- 9:12see
- 9:12where
- 9:12Cinema
- 9:13goes
- 9:13as
- 9:14AI
- 9:14itself
- 9:15improves.
- 9:16The
- 9:171980s
- 9:17was
- 9:17the
- 9:18height
- 9:18of
- 9:18renewed
- 9:19Cold
- 9:19War
- 9:19tension.
- 9:20Ronald
- 9:21Reagan
- 9:21came
- 9:22into
- 9:22office
- 9:22in
- 9:221981
- 9:24declaring
- 9:24the
- 9:25Soviet
- 9:25Union
- 9:25an
- 9:26evil
- 9:26empire
- 9:27and
- 9:27dramatically
- 9:28escalating
- 9:29military
- 9:29spending.
- 9:30The
- 9:31early
- 9:3180s
- 9:31saw
- 9:32genuine
- 9:32public
- 9:32fear
- 9:33of
- 9:33nuclear
- 9:34war
- 9:34at
- 9:34Levels
- 9:35not
- 9:35felt
- 9:36since
- 9:36the
- 9:36Cuban
- 9:36Missile
- 9:37Crisis.
- 9:38Reagan's
- 9:39controversial
- 9:40Strategic
- 9:40Defense
- 9:41Initiative
- 9:42was
- 9:43announced
- 9:43in
- 9:431983
- 9:44and
- 9:45was
- 9:45quickly
- 9:45dubbed
- 9:46Star
- 9:46wars
- 9:47by
- 9:47the
- 9:47press.
- 9:48It
- 9:48proposed
- 9:49using
- 9:49space
- 9:50based
- 9:50laser
- 9:51and
- 9:51missile
- 9:51systems
- 9:52to
- 9:52shoot
- 9:53down
- 9:53Soviet
- 9:54nuclear
- 9:54missiles.
- 9:55It
- 9:55also
- 9:55funneled
- 9:56government
- 9:56money
- 9:57into
- 9:57defence
- 9:58technology
- 9:58research.
- 10:00Meanwhile,
- 10:00a
- 10:01parallel
- 10:01revolution
- 10:02was
- 10:02unfolding
- 10:03in
- 10:03civilian
- 10:03life.
- 10:05The
- 10:05IBM
- 10:05personal
- 10:06computer
- 10:06launched
- 10:07in
- 10:071981,
- 10:08and
- 10:08Apple's
- 10:09Macintosh
- 10:10followed
- 10:10in
- 10:101984.
- 10:12By
- 10:12the
- 10:13middle
- 10:13of
- 10:13the
- 10:13decade,
- 10:13computers
- 10:14were
- 10:14moving
- 10:15from
- 10:15offices
- 10:15into
- 10:16homes.
- 10:17The
- 10:17semiconductor
- 10:18industry
- 10:18was
- 10:19booming,
- 10:19centred
- 10:20on
- 10:20Silicon
- 10:21Valley,
- 10:21which
- 10:21became
- 10:22a
- 10:22cultural
- 10:23symbol
- 10:23of
- 10:23American
- 10:24innovation
- 10:25and
- 10:25optimism,
- 10:26a
- 10:26direct
- 10:27counterpoint
- 10:27to
- 10:28Cold
- 10:28War
- 10:28anxiety.
- 10:30The
- 10:30tension
- 10:30between
- 10:31these
- 10:31two
- 10:31worlds
- 10:31was
- 10:32palpable.
- 10:32The
- 10:33same
- 10:33microchip
- 10:34technology
- 10:34driving
- 10:34the
- 10:35Macintosh
- 10:36was
- 10:36also
- 10:36guiding
- 10:37missiles.
- 10:38The
- 10:38Defence
- 10:39Advanced
- 10:39Research
- 10:40Projects
- 10:41Agency,
- 10:41or
- 10:42darpa,
- 10:43was
- 10:43funding
- 10:43research
- 10:44that
- 10:44would
- 10:44eventually
- 10:45produce
- 10:45the
- 10:45Internet.
- 10:46With
- 10:46the
- 10:46military
- 10:47and
- 10:47civilian
- 10:48tech
- 10:48worlds
- 10:49feeding
- 10:49each
- 10:49other
- 10:50constantly
- 10:51as
- 10:51computers
- 10:52spread,
- 10:53so
- 10:53did
- 10:53a
- 10:53new
- 10:54kind
- 10:54of
- 10:54fear.
- 10:55The
- 10:55film
- 10:55War
- 10:56Games,
- 10:56in
- 10:57which
- 10:57a
- 10:57teenager
- 10:57nearly
- 10:58triggers
- 10:58nuclear
- 10:59war
- 10:59by
- 11:00hacking
- 11:00a
- 11:00military
- 11:00computer,
- 11:01was
- 11:02so
- 11:02culturally
- 11:02resonant
- 11:03that
- 11:04Ronald
- 11:04Reagan
- 11:05reportedly
- 11:05asked
- 11:05his
- 11:06Joint
- 11:06Chiefs
- 11:06of
- 11:07Staff
- 11:07after
- 11:08seeing
- 11:08it
- 11:08whether
- 11:09such
- 11:09a
- 11:09scenario
- 11:10was
- 11:10actually
- 11:10possible.
- 11:12They
- 11:12told
- 11:12him
- 11:12it
- 11:13essentially
- 11:13was,
- 11:14which
- 11:14helped
- 11:15accelerate
- 11:15the
- 11:15development
- 11:16of
- 11:16formal
- 11:16CyberSecurity
- 11:17policy.
- 11:18The
- 11:1980s
- 11:19were
- 11:20essentially
- 11:20a
- 11:20decade
- 11:21lived
- 11:21under
- 11:21two
- 11:22competing
- 11:22narratives.
- 11:23The
- 11:23fear
- 11:24that
- 11:24technology,
- 11:25nuclear
- 11:25weapons
- 11:26and
- 11:26rogue
- 11:26computers
- 11:27might
- 11:27destroy
- 11:28civilization,
- 11:29and
- 11:29the
- 11:29excitement
- 11:30that
- 11:30technology,
- 11:31like
- 11:31personal
- 11:32computers
- 11:33and
- 11:33the
- 11:33Internet's
- 11:34precursors,
- 11:35might
- 11:35transform
- 11:36it
- 11:36for
- 11:36the
- 11:36better.
- 11:37And
- 11:37that
- 11:38sense
- 11:38of
- 11:38technological
- 11:39and
- 11:39ideological
- 11:40victory
- 11:40set
- 11:41the
- 11:41stage
- 11:41for
- 11:41the
- 11:42hyper
- 11:42optimistic
- 11:43tech
- 11:43boom
- 11:43of
- 11:44the
- 11:441990s.
- 11:45And
- 11:46of
- 11:46course,
- 11:46War
- 11:46Games
- 11:47is
- 11:47also
- 11:47relevant
- 11:48when
- 11:48it
- 11:48comes
- 11:48to
- 11:48talking
- 11:49about
- 11:49Short
- 11:49Circuit,
- 11:50because
- 11:50they
- 11:51share
- 11:51the
- 11:51same
- 11:51director,
- 11:52John
- 11:52Badham.
- 11:53And
- 11:53a
- 11:54year
- 11:54after
- 11:54Short
- 11:54circuit,
- 11:55we
- 11:55got
- 11:56RoboCop,
- 11:57a
- 11:57powerful
- 11:57but
- 11:58dangerously
- 11:58literal
- 11:59satire
- 12:00of
- 12:00militarized
- 12:01AI
- 12:02and
- 12:02corporate
- 12:02incompetence.
- 12:04But
- 12:04that
- 12:04is
- 12:04a
- 12:04topic
- 12:05for
- 12:05a
- 12:05future
- 12:06episode
- 12:06of
- 12:06this
- 12:07podcast.
- 12:07And
- 12:07I
- 12:08cannot
- 12:08wait
- 12:08to
- 12:09get
- 12:09round
- 12:09to
- 12:09RoboCop.
- 12:11Hot
- 12:11off
- 12:11the
- 12:12box
- 12:12office
- 12:12success
- 12:12of
- 12:13War
- 12:13Games,
- 12:13John
- 12:14Badham
- 12:14decided
- 12:15to
- 12:15make
- 12:15Short
- 12:15Circuit
- 12:16immediately
- 12:17after
- 12:17reading
- 12:18Brent
- 12:18Maddock
- 12:19and
- 12:19S.S.
- 12:19wilson's
- 12:20script,
- 12:20which
- 12:21was
- 12:21written
- 12:21as
- 12:22part
- 12:22of
- 12:22a
- 12:22UCLA
- 12:23extension
- 12:24screenwriting.
- 12:25Wilson
- 12:26and
- 12:26Maddock
- 12:26would
- 12:27go
- 12:27on
- 12:27to
- 12:27write
- 12:27Tremors
- 12:28three
- 12:28of
- 12:29its
- 12:29sequels,
- 12:29its
- 12:30TV
- 12:30series,
- 12:31along
- 12:31with
- 12:31Batteries
- 12:32Not
- 12:32Included,
- 12:32which
- 12:33I
- 12:33also
- 12:33love
- 12:33and
- 12:34will
- 12:34do
- 12:34one
- 12:34day
- 12:34for
- 12:35this
- 12:35podcast,
- 12:35Wild
- 12:36Wild
- 12:36West.
- 12:37And
- 12:37both
- 12:37were
- 12:37also
- 12:38story
- 12:38consultants
- 12:39on
- 12:39the
- 12:39Land
- 12:39Before
- 12:40Time,
- 12:40which
- 12:40was
- 12:41a
- 12:41very
- 12:41recent
- 12:41episode
- 12:42of
- 12:42this
- 12:42podcast.
- 12:43I
- 12:43also
- 12:43did
- 12:43an
- 12:43episode
- 12:44on
- 12:44Tremors
- 12:44years
- 12:45back.
- 12:45I
- 12:46love
- 12:46that
- 12:46movie.
- 12:47But
- 12:47how
- 12:47did
- 12:47John
- 12:48Badham
- 12:48get
- 12:48this
- 12:48script
- 12:49well,
- 12:49at
- 12:50the
- 12:50University
- 12:50of
- 12:51California,
- 12:52at
- 12:52the
- 12:52class
- 12:52which
- 12:53was
- 12:53taught
- 12:53by
- 12:53Sally
- 12:54Merlin
- 12:54Jones,
- 12:55was
- 12:55fellow
- 12:56student
- 12:56Arne
- 12:57Olson.
- 12:58He
- 12:58was
- 12:58impressed
- 12:59and
- 12:59showed
- 12:59the
- 13:00script
- 13:00to
- 13:00his
- 13:00friend
- 13:01Gary
- 13:01Foster,
- 13:02who
- 13:02in
- 13:02turn
- 13:03showed
- 13:03it
- 13:03to
- 13:03his
- 13:03father,
- 13:04producer
- 13:05David
- 13:05Foster.
- 13:06Once
- 13:06David
- 13:07Foster
- 13:07and
- 13:07his
- 13:07producing
- 13:08partner
- 13:08Lawrence
- 13:09Terman
- 13:09bought
- 13:10the
- 13:10script,
- 13:10they
- 13:11sent
- 13:11it
- 13:11to
- 13:11John
- 13:12Badham,
- 13:12who
- 13:13agreed
- 13:13to
- 13:13direct.
- 13:14Although
- 13:14several
- 13:15studios
- 13:15were
- 13:15interested
- 13:16in
- 13:16the
- 13:16screenplay,
- 13:17they
- 13:17opted
- 13:17to
- 13:18go
- 13:18with
- 13:18the
- 13:18relatively
- 13:19new
- 13:19producer
- 13:19sales
- 13:20organisation
- 13:21because
- 13:21it
- 13:22only
- 13:22had
- 13:22a
- 13:22few
- 13:22other
- 13:23films
- 13:23in
- 13:23the
- 13:23works
- 13:24and
- 13:24so
- 13:24Short
- 13:25Circuit
- 13:25would
- 13:25get
- 13:25the
- 13:26special
- 13:26attention
- 13:26it
- 13:27needed.
- 13:28John
- 13:28Badham
- 13:29would
- 13:29read
- 13:29the
- 13:30script
- 13:30and
- 13:30immediately
- 13:31love
- 13:31the
- 13:31character
- 13:32of
- 13:32Number
- 13:32Five.
- 13:33And
- 13:34Number
- 13:34Five
- 13:34would
- 13:34be
- 13:35the
- 13:35sole
- 13:35most
- 13:35important
- 13:36part
- 13:36of
- 13:36the
- 13:37movie.
- 13:37And
- 13:37getting
- 13:38his
- 13:38design
- 13:38right
- 13:39was
- 13:39critical.
- 13:40He
- 13:40had
- 13:41to
- 13:41be
- 13:41a
- 13:41viable
- 13:41war
- 13:42machine
- 13:42as
- 13:43well
- 13:43as
- 13:43cute
- 13:43and
- 13:44show
- 13:44empathy.
- 13:45And
- 13:45for
- 13:45that
- 13:45design,
- 13:46in
- 13:46part,
- 13:46we
- 13:47have
- 13:47Steven
- 13:47Spielberg
- 13:48to
- 13:48thank,
- 13:49and
- 13:49not
- 13:49just
- 13:50for
- 13:50the
- 13:50ET
- 13:50vibes
- 13:51we
- 13:51get
- 13:51from
- 13:51number
- 13:52five.
- 13:53Doug
- 13:53Trumbull,
- 13:54who
- 13:54directed
- 13:54the
- 13:551972
- 13:55sci
- 13:56fi
- 13:56cult
- 13:56film
- 13:57Silent
- 13:57Running,
- 13:58designed
- 13:58a
- 13:58remote
- 13:59controlled
- 13:59character
- 14:00called
- 14:00Pal
- 14:01which
- 14:01was
- 14:01built
- 14:02by
- 14:02Ex
- 14:02Green
- 14:03Beret
- 14:03Eric
- 14:03Allard,
- 14:04which
- 14:04was
- 14:05first
- 14:05shown
- 14:05in
- 14:05the
- 14:05film
- 14:06let's
- 14:06Go
- 14:07at
- 14:07the
- 14:07Toshiba
- 14:08pavilion
- 14:08at
- 14:09Expo
- 14:0985
- 14:09in
- 14:10Tsukuba,
- 14:10Japan.
- 14:11PAL
- 14:12was
- 14:12a
- 14:12three
- 14:12wheeled
- 14:13robot
- 14:13that
- 14:14had
- 14:14a
- 14:14boom
- 14:14type
- 14:15back
- 14:15with
- 14:15arms
- 14:16and
- 14:16a
- 14:16head.
- 14:17Allard
- 14:17had
- 14:18eight
- 14:18weeks
- 14:18to
- 14:19build
- 14:19PAL
- 14:19from
- 14:19scratch.
- 14:21At
- 14:21that
- 14:21expo
- 14:22was
- 14:22Steven
- 14:22Spielberg
- 14:23who
- 14:24saw
- 14:24the
- 14:24film
- 14:24let's
- 14:25Go
- 14:25and
- 14:26took
- 14:26note
- 14:26of
- 14:26the
- 14:27name
- 14:27of
- 14:27pal's
- 14:28builder
- 14:28from
- 14:28the
- 14:28credits.
- 14:29He
- 14:30knew
- 14:30that
- 14:30John
- 14:30Badham
- 14:31was
- 14:31looking
- 14:31for
- 14:31a
- 14:32robot
- 14:32for
- 14:32his
- 14:32movie
- 14:33and
- 14:33he
- 14:34recommended
- 14:35that
- 14:35they
- 14:35contact
- 14:36Eric
- 14:36Allard
- 14:37to
- 14:37build
- 14:37the
- 14:37robot
- 14:38for
- 14:38Short
- 14:38Circuit.
- 14:40Allard
- 14:40got
- 14:40sent
- 14:41the
- 14:41script
- 14:41to
- 14:41Short
- 14:41Circuit
- 14:42on
- 14:42a
- 14:42Friday
- 14:43and
- 14:43was
- 14:43asked
- 14:44to
- 14:44prepare
- 14:44a
- 14:44bid
- 14:45Monday
- 14:46morning
- 14:46he
- 14:46returned
- 14:47with
- 14:47a
- 14:47lengthy
- 14:47proposal
- 14:48and
- 14:48breaking
- 14:49down
- 14:49every
- 14:49shot
- 14:50in
- 14:50the
- 14:50film
- 14:50in
- 14:51which
- 14:51robots
- 14:51would
- 14:52appear,
- 14:52outlining
- 14:53how
- 14:53each
- 14:53shot
- 14:54could
- 14:54be
- 14:54accomplished.
- 14:55He
- 14:55was
- 14:56immediately
- 14:56hired
- 14:57as
- 14:57the
- 14:57robotic
- 14:58effects
- 14:58supervisor.
- 14:59Allard
- 15:00is
- 15:00also
- 15:00the
- 15:00guy
- 15:00that
- 15:00developed
- 15:01the
- 15:01famous
- 15:01Duracell
- 15:02bunny.
- 15:03Once
- 15:04he
- 15:04was
- 15:04hired,
- 15:04Allard
- 15:05jumped
- 15:05right
- 15:05into
- 15:05the
- 15:06design
- 15:06phase
- 15:06of
- 15:07Short
- 15:07Circuit,
- 15:08collaborating
- 15:08alongside
- 15:09John
- 15:09Badham
- 15:10as
- 15:10well
- 15:11as
- 15:11with
- 15:11acclaimed
- 15:11artists
- 15:12Sid
- 15:12Mead
- 15:13and
- 15:13visual
- 15:13consultant
- 15:14Philip
- 15:14Harrison.
- 15:16Mead
- 15:16created
- 15:17conceptual
- 15:17and
- 15:18world
- 15:18designs
- 15:18for
- 15:18science
- 15:19fiction
- 15:19films
- 15:19like
- 15:20Blade
- 15:20Runner,
- 15:21Aliens
- 15:21and
- 15:22Tron
- 15:22and
- 15:23had
- 15:23been
- 15:23described
- 15:24as
- 15:24the
- 15:24artist
- 15:24who
- 15:25illustrates
- 15:25the
- 15:25future
- 15:26and
- 15:26one
- 15:26of
- 15:27the
- 15:27most
- 15:27influential
- 15:28concept
- 15:28artists
- 15:29and
- 15:29industrial
- 15:30designers
- 15:30of
- 15:30our
- 15:31time.
- 15:32No
- 15:32pressure
- 15:32then.
- 15:33While
- 15:33Eric
- 15:34Allard
- 15:34was
- 15:34a
- 15:34builder,
- 15:35he
- 15:35wasn't
- 15:35really
- 15:35a
- 15:36designer,
- 15:36but
- 15:37he
- 15:37came
- 15:37up
- 15:37with
- 15:37a
- 15:38rudimentary
- 15:38design
- 15:39of
- 15:39a
- 15:39thin
- 15:40tall
- 15:40robot
- 15:41with
- 15:41tank
- 15:41Treads
- 15:42with
- 15:42a
- 15:42head
- 15:42that
- 15:43looked
- 15:43like
- 15:43cans.
- 15:44Syd
- 15:45Mead
- 15:45had
- 15:45a
- 15:45different
- 15:45approach
- 15:46where
- 15:47he
- 15:47was
- 15:47doing
- 15:47a
- 15:47more
- 15:47spherical
- 15:48design.
- 15:49But
- 15:49John
- 15:49Badham
- 15:50wasn't
- 15:50keen
- 15:51on
- 15:51Mead's
- 15:51original
- 15:52designs
- 15:52and
- 15:53wanted
- 15:53them
- 15:53to
- 15:53be
- 15:54more
- 15:54like
- 15:54Allard's.
- 15:55The
- 15:56key
- 15:56issue
- 15:56was
- 15:56having
- 15:57Number
- 15:57five
- 15:57successfully
- 15:58emote.
- 15:59Every
- 15:59part
- 16:00of
- 16:00Number
- 16:01Five
- 16:01and
- 16:01his
- 16:01four
- 16:02fellow
- 16:02robots
- 16:03was
- 16:03built
- 16:04to
- 16:04have
- 16:04a
- 16:04specific
- 16:05logical
- 16:05purpose
- 16:06behind
- 16:06them.
- 16:08Syd
- 16:08Mead
- 16:08insisted
- 16:09on
- 16:09giving
- 16:09Number
- 16:10Five
- 16:10eyes
- 16:11to
- 16:11give
- 16:11the
- 16:12character
- 16:12a
- 16:12method
- 16:12of
- 16:13visually
- 16:13expressing
- 16:14emotion.
- 16:15Through
- 16:15several
- 16:16meetings,
- 16:16they
- 16:16came
- 16:16up
- 16:17with
- 16:17him
- 16:17having
- 16:18two
- 16:18camera
- 16:18lens
- 16:19eyes.
- 16:19And
- 16:20because
- 16:20all
- 16:20movie
- 16:20cameras
- 16:21have
- 16:21flaps
- 16:21in
- 16:21front
- 16:22of
- 16:22the
- 16:22lens
- 16:22to
- 16:22keep
- 16:23out
- 16:23glare
- 16:23from
- 16:23the
- 16:23sun,
- 16:24they
- 16:24used
- 16:25this
- 16:25principle
- 16:25to
- 16:26give
- 16:26Number
- 16:26Five
- 16:27sun
- 16:27visor
- 16:28flaps
- 16:28that
- 16:29resembled
- 16:29eyebrows.
- 16:30And
- 16:30giving
- 16:31him
- 16:31eyebrows
- 16:32suddenly
- 16:32gave
- 16:32the
- 16:33robot
- 16:33a
- 16:33way
- 16:33to
- 16:34emote
- 16:34happiness
- 16:34and
- 16:35sadness,
- 16:36fear
- 16:36or
- 16:36anger.
- 16:38Syd
- 16:38Mead
- 16:39came
- 16:39back
- 16:39into
- 16:39the
- 16:39room
- 16:39with
- 16:40a
- 16:40redesigned
- 16:40version
- 16:41which
- 16:41blew
- 16:41everyone
- 16:42away.
- 16:42The
- 16:43best
- 16:43of
- 16:43Allard's
- 16:44sketches,
- 16:44plus
- 16:45Mead's
- 16:45expertise.
- 16:46They
- 16:47aimed
- 16:47to
- 16:47create
- 16:47something
- 16:48that
- 16:48would
- 16:48look
- 16:48physically
- 16:49realistic
- 16:49and
- 16:50anthropomorphic
- 16:51without
- 16:52being
- 16:52a
- 16:52man
- 16:52in
- 16:53a
- 16:53suit.
- 16:53And
- 16:53once
- 16:54the
- 16:54design
- 16:54of
- 16:54Number
- 16:55Five
- 16:55got
- 16:55approval
- 16:56from
- 16:56the
- 16:56executives
- 16:57on
- 16:57the
- 16:57project,
- 16:58which
- 16:58was
- 16:58originally
- 16:59conceived
- 16:59as
- 16:59a
- 16:59stop
- 17:00motion
- 17:00puppet,
- 17:01Allard
- 17:01eventually
- 17:01opted
- 17:02for
- 17:02a
- 17:02mixture
- 17:03of
- 17:0315
- 17:03remote
- 17:04control
- 17:04puppet
- 17:04versions
- 17:05costing
- 17:06$1.5
- 17:07million.
- 17:08Allard
- 17:09worked
- 17:09on
- 17:09creating
- 17:10all
- 17:10the
- 17:10robots
- 17:10and
- 17:11various
- 17:11robotic
- 17:12parts
- 17:12that
- 17:12would
- 17:12be
- 17:12needed
- 17:13throughout
- 17:13filming.
- 17:14He
- 17:14and
- 17:14his
- 17:15team
- 17:15had
- 17:15just
- 17:1514
- 17:16weeks
- 17:17to
- 17:17build
- 17:17and
- 17:17test
- 17:18everything
- 17:19prior
- 17:19to
- 17:19production,
- 17:20beginning
- 17:20on
- 17:20Short
- 17:21Circuit.
- 17:22They
- 17:22started
- 17:23by
- 17:23creating
- 17:23two
- 17:24foam
- 17:24core
- 17:25robots
- 17:25to
- 17:25define
- 17:26Mead's
- 17:26drawings
- 17:27and
- 17:27and
- 17:27then
- 17:27built
- 17:28two
- 17:28hero
- 17:28robots
- 17:29that
- 17:29were
- 17:30fully
- 17:30animatronic,
- 17:31with
- 17:31movable
- 17:31fingers,
- 17:32grips,
- 17:33hands,
- 17:34arms,
- 17:34shoulders,
- 17:35head,
- 17:35neck,
- 17:36eyes,
- 17:37gizmos
- 17:38and
- 17:38driveability
- 17:39with
- 17:3949
- 17:40axes
- 17:40that
- 17:40were
- 17:41operated
- 17:41by
- 17:41remote
- 17:42control.
- 17:43They
- 17:43then
- 17:43built
- 17:43five
- 17:44robots
- 17:44that
- 17:44were
- 17:45just
- 17:45partially
- 17:45articulate,
- 17:46where
- 17:46only
- 17:47the
- 17:47hands
- 17:47instead
- 17:48of
- 17:48the
- 17:48entire
- 17:48wrists
- 17:49and
- 17:49fingers
- 17:49were
- 17:50molded.
- 17:51They
- 17:51built
- 17:51eight
- 17:51stunt
- 17:52robots
- 17:52with
- 17:52identical
- 17:53chassis.
- 17:54Two
- 17:54separate
- 17:55insert
- 17:55arms
- 17:56which
- 17:56could
- 17:56be
- 17:56used
- 17:56to
- 17:56pick
- 17:57up
- 17:57items
- 17:57and
- 17:58for
- 17:58close
- 17:58up
- 17:58shots.
- 17:59Three
- 18:00separate
- 18:00hero
- 18:01heads
- 18:01which
- 18:01were
- 18:01fully
- 18:02animatronic,
- 18:03eight
- 18:03non
- 18:04hero
- 18:04stunt
- 18:04heads
- 18:05which
- 18:05had
- 18:05limited
- 18:05movement,
- 18:06plus
- 18:07three
- 18:07cable
- 18:08controlled
- 18:08puppet
- 18:08torsos
- 18:09which
- 18:10could
- 18:10be
- 18:10operated
- 18:10by
- 18:11puppeteers
- 18:11from
- 18:12below
- 18:12the
- 18:12frame.
- 18:13A
- 18:13total
- 18:14of
- 18:1412
- 18:14people
- 18:15were
- 18:15controlling
- 18:16number
- 18:16five
- 18:16at
- 18:16his
- 18:17most
- 18:17movable,
- 18:18including
- 18:19by
- 18:19remote
- 18:19control.
- 18:20The
- 18:20PUPETEER
- 18:21for
- 18:21number
- 18:21five
- 18:22was
- 18:22Tim
- 18:23Blaney,
- 18:24who's
- 18:24also
- 18:24the
- 18:25voice
- 18:25of
- 18:25Frank
- 18:25the
- 18:25pug
- 18:26in
- 18:26Men
- 18:26in
- 18:26Black.
- 18:27And
- 18:27uniquely,
- 18:28Blaney
- 18:29not
- 18:29only
- 18:29puppeteered
- 18:30Number
- 18:30Five,
- 18:31but
- 18:31voiced
- 18:31him
- 18:32too.
- 18:32And
- 18:32not
- 18:33only
- 18:33that,
- 18:33voiced
- 18:34him
- 18:34live
- 18:35on
- 18:35location
- 18:35with
- 18:36the
- 18:36actors
- 18:37Originally,
- 18:38the
- 18:38idea
- 18:38was
- 18:39to
- 18:39have
- 18:39someone
- 18:39like
- 18:40Robin
- 18:40Williams
- 18:40voice
- 18:41him,
- 18:41but
- 18:42Badham
- 18:42believed
- 18:43that
- 18:43by
- 18:43having
- 18:43Tim
- 18:43Blaney
- 18:44do
- 18:44it
- 18:44live
- 18:45on
- 18:45set,
- 18:46it
- 18:46would
- 18:46provide
- 18:47a
- 18:47more
- 18:47realistic
- 18:48interaction
- 18:49between
- 18:49Number
- 18:49Five
- 18:50and
- 18:50the
- 18:50actors
- 18:50around
- 18:51him
- 18:51and
- 18:52make
- 18:52him
- 18:52feel
- 18:53more
- 18:53real.
- 18:54Most
- 18:54of
- 18:54the
- 18:54arm
- 18:55movements
- 18:55of
- 18:55Number
- 18:56Five
- 18:56were
- 18:56controlled
- 18:57by
- 18:57a
- 18:57telemetry
- 18:58suit
- 18:58carried
- 18:59on
- 18:59the
- 18:59puppeteer's
- 18:59upper
- 19:00torso.
- 19:01Each
- 19:01joint
- 19:01in
- 19:01the
- 19:02suit
- 19:02had
- 19:02a
- 19:02separate
- 19:03sensor,
- 19:03allowing
- 19:04the
- 19:04puppeteer's
- 19:05arm
- 19:05and
- 19:05hand
- 19:05movements
- 19:06to
- 19:06be
- 19:06transferred
- 19:07directly
- 19:08to
- 19:08Number
- 19:08Five.
- 19:09But
- 19:09lest
- 19:09we
- 19:10forget,
- 19:10there
- 19:10are
- 19:10actual
- 19:11humans
- 19:11in
- 19:12this
- 19:12movie,
- 19:12too.
- 19:13Steve
- 19:13Guttenberg
- 19:14knew
- 19:14the
- 19:14script
- 19:15was
- 19:15a
- 19:15hit
- 19:15as
- 19:15soon
- 19:16as
- 19:16he
- 19:16read
- 19:16it
- 19:16and
- 19:17grabbed
- 19:17the
- 19:17opportunity
- 19:18to
- 19:18play
- 19:18Newton
- 19:19Crosby.
- 19:20He
- 19:20and
- 19:20John
- 19:21Badham
- 19:21spoke
- 19:22at
- 19:22length
- 19:22about
- 19:23what
- 19:23it
- 19:23meant
- 19:23to
- 19:24be
- 19:24alive
- 19:24and
- 19:25the
- 19:25connection
- 19:25with
- 19:25the
- 19:26soul.
- 19:26And
- 19:26Gutenberg,
- 19:27who
- 19:27had
- 19:28become
- 19:28a
- 19:28star
- 19:28off
- 19:28of
- 19:29the
- 19:29Police
- 19:29Academy
- 19:30movie
- 19:30and
- 19:30its
- 19:30sequel,
- 19:31wanted
- 19:32to
- 19:32tread
- 19:32a
- 19:32similar
- 19:32path
- 19:33between
- 19:33humour
- 19:34and
- 19:34heart.
- 19:34But
- 19:35ultimately,
- 19:35he
- 19:36knew
- 19:36people
- 19:36would
- 19:37want
- 19:37to
- 19:37see
- 19:37Number
- 19:38Five.
- 19:38Gutenberg
- 19:39would
- 19:39have
- 19:39the
- 19:40biggest
- 19:40hit
- 19:40of
- 19:40his
- 19:41career
- 19:41the
- 19:41following
- 19:42year
- 19:42in
- 19:43Three
- 19:43Men
- 19:43and
- 19:43a
- 19:43Baby,
- 19:44which
- 19:44is
- 19:44another
- 19:44one
- 19:45that
- 19:45I
- 19:45really
- 19:45want
- 19:46to
- 19:46do
- 19:46on
- 19:46this
- 19:46podcast.
- 19:47There's
- 19:47so
- 19:47many
- 19:47movies
- 19:48and
- 19:48not
- 19:48enough
- 19:48of
- 19:49me.
- 19:49One
- 19:50day
- 19:50I
- 19:50will
- 19:51get
- 19:51round
- 19:51to
- 19:51Three
- 19:51Men
- 19:52and
- 19:52a
- 19:52Baby.
- 19:53Of
- 19:53course,
- 19:53Steve
- 19:53Gutenberg
- 19:54and
- 19:54G.W.
- 19:55bailey,
- 19:55who
- 19:55plays
- 19:56Skoda,
- 19:56appeared
- 19:57together
- 19:57in
- 19:58Police
- 19:58Academy,
- 19:59Police
- 19:59Academy
- 20:002,
- 20:00their
- 20:00first
- 20:00assignment,
- 20:01and
- 20:01they'd
- 20:02go
- 20:02on
- 20:02to
- 20:02star
- 20:02together
- 20:03again
- 20:03in
- 20:03Police
- 20:04Academy
- 20:044,
- 20:05citizens
- 20:06on
- 20:06patrol.
- 20:07Gutenberg
- 20:08was
- 20:08obviously
- 20:09a
- 20:09big
- 20:09name,
- 20:09but
- 20:10so
- 20:10was
- 20:10Ali
- 20:11Sheedy
- 20:11as
- 20:12a
- 20:12member
- 20:12of
- 20:12the
- 20:12Brat
- 20:12Pack
- 20:13and
- 20:13star
- 20:14of
- 20:14the
- 20:14Breakfast
- 20:14Club
- 20:15and
- 20:15St.
- 20:15Elmo's
- 20:16Fire,
- 20:16as
- 20:17well
- 20:17as
- 20:17working
- 20:17with
- 20:18John
- 20:18Badham
- 20:19a
- 20:19few
- 20:19years
- 20:19prior
- 20:20on
- 20:20War
- 20:20Games.
- 20:21And
- 20:22then
- 20:22there's
- 20:22Fisher
- 20:22Stevens,
- 20:23and
- 20:23I'm
- 20:24going
- 20:24to
- 20:24come
- 20:24back
- 20:24to
- 20:24the
- 20:25controversy
- 20:25around
- 20:25Ben
- 20:26a
- 20:26little
- 20:26bit
- 20:26later.
- 20:27But
- 20:27Stevens,
- 20:28unlike
- 20:29what
- 20:29I
- 20:29believed
- 20:30for
- 20:30a
- 20:30very
- 20:30long
- 20:30time,
- 20:31actually
- 20:32is
- 20:32not
- 20:32South
- 20:32Asian.
- 20:33He
- 20:33is
- 20:34a
- 20:34white
- 20:34Jewish
- 20:35man.
- 20:36The
- 20:36character
- 20:36of
- 20:36Ben
- 20:37wasn't
- 20:37originally
- 20:38written
- 20:38as
- 20:39Indian.
- 20:39In
- 20:40the
- 20:40original
- 20:40script,
- 20:41he
- 20:41was
- 20:41just
- 20:41an
- 20:42American
- 20:42computer
- 20:43scientist
- 20:43named
- 20:44Benjamin.
- 20:45John
- 20:45Badham
- 20:46didn't
- 20:46think
- 20:46Fisher
- 20:47Stevens
- 20:47was
- 20:47originally
- 20:48right
- 20:48for
- 20:48the
- 20:48part,
- 20:49and
- 20:49so
- 20:50Stevens
- 20:50was
- 20:51originally
- 20:51hired
- 20:52and
- 20:52then
- 20:52fired
- 20:53and
- 20:53replaced
- 20:54by
- 20:54Bronson
- 20:54Pinchot.
- 20:55But
- 20:56when
- 20:56he
- 20:56left
- 20:56to
- 20:57do
- 20:57the
- 20:57sitcom
- 20:57Perfect
- 20:58Strangers,
- 20:59the
- 20:59part
- 20:59was
- 20:59reworked
- 21:00and
- 21:00Stevens
- 21:01was
- 21:01rehired.
- 21:02John
- 21:03Badham
- 21:03claims
- 21:04he
- 21:04got
- 21:04the
- 21:04idea
- 21:05for
- 21:05the
- 21:05character
- 21:05of
- 21:06Ben
- 21:06from
- 21:07the
- 21:07rude
- 21:07French
- 21:07shop
- 21:08assistant
- 21:08in
- 21:08Beverly
- 21:09Hills
- 21:09Cop,
- 21:10and
- 21:10he
- 21:10wanted
- 21:11a
- 21:11hyper,
- 21:11intelligent
- 21:12foreign
- 21:12character
- 21:13who
- 21:13thought
- 21:14Americans
- 21:14were
- 21:14stupid
- 21:15and
- 21:16believed
- 21:16that
- 21:16having
- 21:16an
- 21:17Indian
- 21:17character
- 21:18and
- 21:18the
- 21:18subsequent
- 21:19cultural
- 21:19differences
- 21:20would
- 21:21be
- 21:21A
- 21:21good
- 21:21idea,
- 21:22which
- 21:22he
- 21:23probably
- 21:23would
- 21:23have
- 21:23been
- 21:23if
- 21:24they'd
- 21:24auditioned
- 21:25and
- 21:25cast
- 21:25a
- 21:25South
- 21:25Asian
- 21:26actor.
- 21:27So
- 21:27Fisher
- 21:28Stevens
- 21:28ended
- 21:29up
- 21:29playing
- 21:29an
- 21:29Indian
- 21:30character
- 21:30and
- 21:31he
- 21:31actually
- 21:31took
- 21:31the
- 21:32role
- 21:32seriously.
- 21:33He
- 21:33spoke
- 21:33with
- 21:33a
- 21:33dialect
- 21:34coach,
- 21:35he
- 21:35read
- 21:35Indian
- 21:35books
- 21:36and
- 21:36immersed
- 21:37himself
- 21:37in
- 21:37Indian
- 21:38culture.
- 21:38He
- 21:39even
- 21:39lived
- 21:39in
- 21:39India
- 21:40for
- 21:40a
- 21:40month
- 21:40before
- 21:41he
- 21:41started
- 21:41filming
- 21:42Short
- 21:42Circuit
- 21:432.
- 21:43But
- 21:44in
- 21:44order
- 21:44to
- 21:44play
- 21:44Ben,
- 21:45he
- 21:45also
- 21:46had
- 21:46to
- 21:46grow
- 21:47a
- 21:47beard,
- 21:47dye
- 21:48his
- 21:48hair
- 21:48black,
- 21:49darken
- 21:50his
- 21:50skin
- 21:50with
- 21:50makeup,
- 21:51wear
- 21:52dark
- 21:52brown
- 21:52contact
- 21:53lenses
- 21:53and
- 21:54speak
- 21:54with
- 21:54an
- 21:54East
- 21:55Indian
- 21:55accent.
- 21:56John
- 21:57Badham
- 21:57has
- 21:58always
- 21:58stressed
- 21:58though
- 21:58that
- 21:59they
- 21:59never
- 21:59intended
- 22:00to
- 22:00make
- 22:00fun
- 22:00of
- 22:00the
- 22:01character
- 22:01of
- 22:01Ben.
- 22:02They
- 22:02wanted
- 22:03diversity
- 22:03there,
- 22:04but
- 22:05it's
- 22:05just
- 22:05not
- 22:05quite
- 22:05the
- 22:06right
- 22:06kind.
- 22:06But
- 22:07I
- 22:07am
- 22:07going
- 22:07to
- 22:07come
- 22:07back
- 22:08to
- 22:08the
- 22:08controversy
- 22:09surrounding
- 22:10Fisher
- 22:10Stevens
- 22:11later.
- 22:12Tim
- 22:12Blaney
- 22:13would
- 22:13definitely
- 22:13help
- 22:14to
- 22:14give
- 22:14the
- 22:14personality
- 22:15and
- 22:15arc
- 22:16to
- 22:16Number
- 22:16Five.
- 22:17He
- 22:17would
- 22:17start
- 22:18with
- 22:18a
- 22:18monotone
- 22:18robotic
- 22:19voice
- 22:19which
- 22:20evolves
- 22:20to
- 22:20through
- 22:20the
- 22:21movie
- 22:21as
- 22:21Number
- 22:22Five
- 22:22gets
- 22:22more
- 22:23and
- 22:23more
- 22:23self
- 22:23awareness
- 22:24and
- 22:24input.
- 22:25And
- 22:25while
- 22:265
- 22:26is
- 22:27built
- 22:27as
- 22:27a
- 22:27weapon,
- 22:28he
- 22:28chooses
- 22:29kindness
- 22:29and
- 22:29empathy
- 22:30because
- 22:30he
- 22:31teaches
- 22:31himself.
- 22:32He's
- 22:33not
- 22:33programmed
- 22:33to
- 22:33show
- 22:34compassion.
- 22:34He
- 22:35evolves
- 22:35to
- 22:35show
- 22:36it
- 22:36through
- 22:36his
- 22:37own
- 22:37sentience.
- 22:38Despite
- 22:39in
- 22:39the
- 22:39movie
- 22:40Number
- 22:40Five
- 22:40being
- 22:40struck
- 22:41by
- 22:41lightning
- 22:41and
- 22:42quote
- 22:42unquote
- 22:42malfunctioning,
- 22:43in
- 22:44real
- 22:44life,
- 22:44the
- 22:45hardware
- 22:45was
- 22:45remarkably
- 22:46malfunction
- 22:47free.
- 22:48Unlike
- 22:48most
- 22:48movies
- 22:49that
- 22:49have
- 22:49mechanical
- 22:49co
- 22:50stars.
- 22:50Jaws
- 22:51obviously
- 22:51springs
- 22:52to
- 22:52mind.
- 22:53Number
- 22:53Five
- 22:54in
- 22:54his
- 22:54various
- 22:54forms
- 22:55only
- 22:55caused
- 22:56about
- 22:56two
- 22:56hours
- 22:56of
- 22:57production
- 22:57loss
- 22:58through
- 22:58breakdowns
- 22:59or
- 22:59parts
- 23:00issues
- 23:00across
- 23:00the
- 23:01entire
- 23:01production.
- 23:02Principal
- 23:03photography
- 23:04began
- 23:04on
- 23:046
- 23:05September
- 23:051985
- 23:06in
- 23:06Oregon.
- 23:07The
- 23:07movie
- 23:08shot
- 23:08on
- 23:08location
- 23:09in
- 23:09Astoria,
- 23:10then
- 23:10moved
- 23:11to
- 23:11Portland
- 23:12Cascade
- 23:12Locks
- 23:13and
- 23:13the
- 23:13Bonneville
- 23:14Dam.
- 23:15The
- 23:15production
- 23:15then
- 23:16moved
- 23:16to
- 23:16Southern
- 23:16California
- 23:17where
- 23:18interiors
- 23:18were
- 23:19shot
- 23:19at
- 23:19the
- 23:19Laird
- 23:20International
- 23:20Studios
- 23:21in
- 23:21Culver
- 23:21City.
- 23:22Opening
- 23:23scenes
- 23:23of
- 23:23the
- 23:23army
- 23:24combat
- 23:24maneuvers
- 23:25were
- 23:25filmed
- 23:25at
- 23:25the
- 23:25Disney
- 23:26Ranch
- 23:26near
- 23:27Santa
- 23:27Clarita,
- 23:28California
- 23:29while
- 23:29the
- 23:29finale
- 23:30was
- 23:30shot
- 23:30at
- 23:30Vasquez
- 23:31Rocks
- 23:31county
- 23:32park
- 23:32in
- 23:32the
- 23:33Antelope
- 23:33Valley
- 23:34near
- 23:34Santa
- 23:34Clarita.
- 23:36Every
- 23:36morning
- 23:36John
- 23:37Badham
- 23:37would
- 23:37bring
- 23:38out
- 23:38Number
- 23:38Five,
- 23:39hug
- 23:39him
- 23:40and
- 23:40and
- 23:40encourage
- 23:41everyone
- 23:41in
- 23:41the
- 23:41cast
- 23:42to
- 23:42do
- 23:42the
- 23:42same.
- 23:43Number
- 23:43Five
- 23:44was
- 23:44treated
- 23:44with
- 23:44respect
- 23:45as
- 23:45an
- 23:45actor
- 23:46on
- 23:46this
- 23:46movie.
- 23:47He
- 23:47was
- 23:47the
- 23:47talent.
- 23:48And
- 23:48when
- 23:48Badham
- 23:49was
- 23:49asked
- 23:49by
- 23:49a
- 23:49producer
- 23:50if
- 23:50Number
- 23:51Five
- 23:51could
- 23:51dance,
- 23:52he
- 23:52just
- 23:52said
- 23:53yes.
- 23:53Without
- 23:53consulting
- 23:54the
- 23:54puppeteers.
- 23:55They
- 23:56eventually,
- 23:56after
- 23:57much
- 23:57hard
- 23:57graft,
- 23:58got
- 23:58Number
- 23:59Five
- 23:59to
- 23:59dance
- 23:59along
- 24:00to
- 24:00Saturday
- 24:00Night
- 24:01Fever,
- 24:01which
- 24:02was
- 24:02advantageous
- 24:03because
- 24:03John
- 24:03Badham
- 24:04directed
- 24:04that
- 24:04movie
- 24:05as
- 24:05well.
- 25:07it's
- 25:07time
- 25:07to
- 25:07segue
- 25:08into
- 25:08the
- 25:08obligatory
- 25:08Keanu
- 25:09reference
- 25:10of
- 25:10this
- 25:10episode.
- 25:11And
- 25:11if
- 25:11you
- 25:11don't
- 25:11know
- 25:11what
- 25:11that
- 25:11is,
- 25:12it's
- 25:12where
- 25:13I
- 25:13link
- 25:13every
- 25:13movie
- 25:13that
- 25:14I
- 25:14feature
- 25:14with
- 25:14Keanu
- 25:15Reeves
- 25:15just
- 25:15because
- 25:16and
- 25:16number
- 25:17five
- 25:17decides
- 25:18to
- 25:18name
- 25:18himself
- 25:19Johnny.
- 25:20Keanu
- 25:20has
- 25:21played
- 25:21quite
- 25:21a
- 25:21few
- 25:22characters
- 25:22named
- 25:23Johnny
- 25:23or
- 25:24John,
- 25:24including
- 25:25Johnny
- 25:26Utah,
- 25:26Jonathan
- 25:27Harker,
- 25:28Johnny
- 25:28Mnemonic,
- 25:29John
- 25:29Constantine,
- 25:31John
- 25:31Wick,
- 25:31and
- 25:32if
- 25:32we're
- 25:32being
- 25:32pedantic,
- 25:33which
- 25:33I
- 25:34like
- 25:34to
- 25:34be,
- 25:35Jack
- 25:35is
- 25:35a
- 25:35diminutive
- 25:36of
- 25:36John.
- 25:37So
- 25:37also
- 25:38Jack
- 25:38Traven
- 25:39and
- 25:39Jack
- 25:40in
- 25:40Babes
- 25:40in
- 25:40Toyland.
- 25:41And
- 25:42that
- 25:42is
- 25:42the
- 25:42easiest
- 25:42way
- 25:43to
- 25:43link
- 25:43Keanu
- 25:44Reeves
- 25:44to
- 25:45Short
- 25:45Circuit
- 25:46via
- 25:46the
- 25:46name
- 25:47Johnny.
- 25:48Now
- 25:48you'll
- 25:49notice
- 25:49in
- 25:49Short
- 25:49Circuit
- 25:50there
- 25:50are
- 25:50two
- 25:51main
- 25:51songs
- 25:52that
- 25:52are
- 25:52played
- 25:52in
- 25:53the
- 25:53movie.
- 25:53The
- 25:54first
- 25:54is
- 25:55the
- 25:55song
- 25:55who's
- 25:56Johnny?
- 25:56Which
- 25:56is
- 25:57the
- 25:57theme
- 25:57from
- 25:57Short
- 25:58Circuit,
- 25:59and
- 25:59that
- 25:59was
- 25:59performed
- 26:00by
- 26:00El
- 26:00DeBarge.
- 26:01That
- 26:02song
- 26:02was
- 26:02actually
- 26:03a
- 26:03hit.
- 26:03It
- 26:03reached
- 26:04number
- 26:04three
- 26:04on
- 26:05the
- 26:05Billboard
- 26:05Hot
- 26:05101
- 26:07on
- 26:08the
- 26:08Hot
- 26:08R
- 26:08and
- 26:08B
- 26:09Singles
- 26:09charts.
- 26:10But
- 26:10when
- 26:11it
- 26:11came
- 26:11to
- 26:11the
- 26:11end
- 26:11credits,
- 26:12there's
- 26:13another
- 26:13song
- 26:13called
- 26:14Come
- 26:14and
- 26:14Follow
- 26:15Me
- 26:15which
- 26:16is
- 26:16number
- 26:16five's
- 26:17theme
- 26:17from
- 26:18Short
- 26:18Circuit
- 26:19that
- 26:19was
- 26:19performed
- 26:20by
- 26:20Max
- 26:20Carl
- 26:21and
- 26:21Marcy
- 26:21Levy.
- 26:22And
- 26:22let's
- 26:23be
- 26:23honest,
- 26:23neither
- 26:24are
- 26:24really
- 26:24well
- 26:24known
- 26:25hits
- 26:25nowadays,
- 26:26but
- 26:26they
- 26:26do
- 26:26add
- 26:27to
- 26:27the
- 26:28very
- 26:2880s
- 26:28charm
- 26:29of
- 26:29this
- 26:29movie.
- 26:30Short
- 26:31Circuit
- 26:31was
- 26:32released
- 26:32on
- 26:32the
- 26:329th
- 26:33of
- 26:33May
- 26:331986
- 26:34and
- 26:35immediately
- 26:35jumped
- 26:35to
- 26:36number
- 26:36one
- 26:36at
- 26:36the
- 26:36domestic
- 26:37US
- 26:37box
- 26:37office.
- 26:38It
- 26:38dropped
- 26:39to
- 26:39second
- 26:39in
- 26:39its
- 26:40second
- 26:40week
- 26:41due
- 26:41to
- 26:41the
- 26:41release
- 26:42of
- 26:42Top
- 26:42Gun.
- 26:43It
- 26:43stayed
- 26:44in
- 26:44the
- 26:44US
- 26:44top
- 26:4410
- 26:45for
- 26:45seven
- 26:45weeks
- 26:47on
- 26:47its
- 26:47$15
- 26:47million
- 26:48budget.
- 26:49Short
- 26:49Circuit
- 26:50grossed
- 26:50$40.7
- 26:52million,
- 26:53but
- 26:53there
- 26:53was
- 26:53some
- 26:54controversy
- 26:55over
- 26:55its
- 26:55purported
- 26:56gross.
- 26:57On
- 26:5713
- 26:58May
- 26:591986,
- 27:00Daily
- 27:00Variety's
- 27:01box
- 27:01office
- 27:02chart
- 27:02listed
- 27:03the
- 27:03film's
- 27:03gross
- 27:04for
- 27:04its
- 27:04first
- 27:04three
- 27:05days
- 27:05of
- 27:05release
- 27:06as
- 27:07$5,346,808.
- 27:12However,
- 27:13distributor
- 27:13Tristar
- 27:14Pictures
- 27:15received
- 27:15criticism
- 27:16for
- 27:16reporting
- 27:17that
- 27:17figure,
- 27:17as
- 27:18other
- 27:18studios
- 27:19believed
- 27:19that
- 27:19the
- 27:20reported
- 27:20gross
- 27:20was
- 27:21too
- 27:21high.
- 27:2218
- 27:23May
- 27:241986
- 27:24Los
- 27:24Angeles
- 27:25Times
- 27:26reported
- 27:26that
- 27:26that
- 27:27figure
- 27:27was
- 27:27inflated
- 27:28by
- 27:2810
- 27:28to
- 27:2915%
- 27:30and
- 27:30that
- 27:30TriStar
- 27:31based
- 27:31the
- 27:32announced
- 27:32gross
- 27:33on
- 27:33reports
- 27:34from
- 27:3475%
- 27:35of
- 27:35the
- 27:35theaters
- 27:36screening
- 27:36the
- 27:37film
- 27:37and
- 27:38estimated
- 27:38the
- 27:39other
- 27:3925%.
- 27:41Tristar
- 27:42President
- 27:42David
- 27:42Matalon
- 27:43told
- 27:44the
- 27:44Hollywood
- 27:44Reporter
- 27:45that
- 27:45figures
- 27:45from
- 27:45the
- 27:46west
- 27:46coast
- 27:46and
- 27:47smaller
- 27:47towns
- 27:48were
- 27:48typically
- 27:49not
- 27:49in
- 27:50when
- 27:50studios
- 27:51announced
- 27:51weekend
- 27:52box
- 27:52office
- 27:52numbers.
- 27:53Matalon
- 27:54said
- 27:54it
- 27:54was
- 27:55not
- 27:55a
- 27:55deliberate
- 27:55attempt
- 27:56to
- 27:56misrepresent
- 27:57the
- 27:57figures
- 27:57because
- 27:58Short
- 27:58Circuit
- 27:59was
- 27:59without
- 27:59question
- 28:00the
- 28:00top
- 28:01film
- 28:01of
- 28:01the
- 28:01weekend.
- 28:03Daily
- 28:03Variety
- 28:04on
- 28:0416
- 28:05May
- 28:051986
- 28:06estimated
- 28:07Short
- 28:07Circuit
- 28:08actually
- 28:08took
- 28:09in
- 28:09between
- 28:09$4.5
- 28:10million
- 28:11and
- 28:11$4.75
- 28:12million.
- 28:14That
- 28:14first
- 28:14three
- 28:15days
- 28:15of
- 28:15release,
- 28:16as
- 28:16opposed
- 28:16to
- 28:16the
- 28:17$5.3
- 28:17million
- 28:18that
- 28:19was
- 28:19actually
- 28:19reported
- 28:21critically.
- 28:22Short
- 28:22Circuit
- 28:22has
- 28:23a
- 28:2362%
- 28:24rating
- 28:24on
- 28:24Rotten
- 28:25Tomatoes,
- 28:25with
- 28:26a
- 28:26consensus
- 28:26of
- 28:27amiable
- 28:28and
- 28:28good
- 28:28natured,
- 28:29but
- 28:29also
- 28:29shallow
- 28:30and
- 28:30predictable.
- 28:31Short
- 28:31Circuit
- 28:32is
- 28:32hardly
- 28:32as
- 28:32deep
- 28:33or
- 28:33emotionally
- 28:34resonant
- 28:34as
- 28:34ET
- 28:35though
- 28:35Johnny
- 28:365
- 28:36makes
- 28:36for
- 28:37a
- 28:37charming
- 28:37robot
- 28:38protagonist.
- 28:40But
- 28:40most
- 28:40contemporary
- 28:41criticism
- 28:42is
- 28:42squarely
- 28:42aimed
- 28:43at
- 28:43Fisher
- 28:43Stevens
- 28:44portrayal
- 28:44in
- 28:44brownface,
- 28:46a
- 28:46decision
- 28:46that
- 28:46Stevens
- 28:47himself
- 28:47has
- 28:48openly
- 28:48criticised.
- 28:49He's
- 28:49opened
- 28:50up
- 28:50about
- 28:50the
- 28:50regret
- 28:51he
- 28:51feels
- 28:52and
- 28:52that
- 28:52the
- 28:52role
- 28:52of
- 28:52Ben
- 28:53haunts
- 28:53him.
- 28:54He
- 28:54thinks
- 28:55Short
- 28:55Circuit
- 28:55is
- 28:55a
- 28:56really
- 28:56good
- 28:56movie,
- 28:56but
- 28:57he
- 28:57would
- 28:57never
- 28:57do
- 28:58that
- 28:58part
- 28:58again,
- 28:59and
- 28:59that
- 28:59the
- 29:00role
- 29:00should
- 29:00have
- 29:00gone
- 29:00to
- 29:01a
- 29:01South
- 29:01Asian
- 29:02actor.
- 29:03Stevens
- 29:03has
- 29:04previously
- 29:04made
- 29:04comments
- 29:05addressing
- 29:05his
- 29:05problematic
- 29:06involvement
- 29:07in
- 29:07a
- 29:072015
- 29:08New
- 29:08York
- 29:09Times
- 29:09interview
- 29:10with
- 29:10Aziz
- 29:10Ansari,
- 29:11where
- 29:12the
- 29:12master
- 29:12of
- 29:12Non
- 29:13Star
- 29:13wrote
- 29:13a
- 29:14personal
- 29:14essay
- 29:15detailing
- 29:16his
- 29:16meeting
- 29:16with
- 29:16the
- 29:16actor
- 29:17that
- 29:17he'd
- 29:18grown
- 29:18up
- 29:18watching
- 29:19on
- 29:19screen
- 29:19without
- 29:19knowing
- 29:20for
- 29:20years
- 29:21that
- 29:21his
- 29:21Indian
- 29:22role
- 29:22model
- 29:22wasn't
- 29:23actually
- 29:23Indian.
- 29:25But
- 29:25Fisher
- 29:25Stevens
- 29:26can't
- 29:26change
- 29:26the
- 29:27past.
- 29:27All
- 29:27he
- 29:27can
- 29:28do
- 29:28is
- 29:28acknowledge
- 29:29it
- 29:29was
- 29:29wrong.
- 29:30Stevens
- 29:31would
- 29:31return
- 29:32as
- 29:32the
- 29:32main
- 29:32supporting
- 29:33character
- 29:34to
- 29:34the
- 29:34newly
- 29:34dubbed
- 29:35Johnny
- 29:355
- 29:35in
- 29:36Short
- 29:36Circuit
- 29:372,
- 29:37which
- 29:38reunites
- 29:38Ben
- 29:38with
- 29:39Johnny,
- 29:39but
- 29:39without
- 29:40Ali
- 29:40Sheedy
- 29:41or
- 29:41Steve
- 29:41Guttenberg.
- 29:43In
- 29:43April
- 29:432008,
- 29:44Variety
- 29:45reported
- 29:45that
- 29:45Dimension
- 29:46Films
- 29:46had
- 29:47acquired
- 29:47the
- 29:47rights
- 29:48to
- 29:48remake
- 29:49Short
- 29:49Circuit.
- 29:50Dan
- 29:50Milano
- 29:51had
- 29:51been
- 29:51hired
- 29:52to
- 29:52write
- 29:52a
- 29:52script,
- 29:53with
- 29:53David
- 29:53Foster
- 29:54set
- 29:54to
- 29:54produce,
- 29:55and
- 29:55Foster
- 29:56said
- 29:56that
- 29:56the
- 29:56robot's
- 29:57appearance
- 29:57would
- 29:58not
- 29:58change,
- 29:59but
- 29:59that
- 29:59version
- 29:59remained
- 30:00in
- 30:00development
- 30:00hell
- 30:01for
- 30:01four
- 30:01years.
- 30:02In
- 30:03November
- 30:032020,
- 30:04it
- 30:04was
- 30:04announced
- 30:04that
- 30:05Spyglass
- 30:05Media
- 30:06was
- 30:06set
- 30:07to
- 30:07remake
- 30:07Short
- 30:08Circuit
- 30:08and
- 30:08hired
- 30:09the
- 30:09writing
- 30:09team
- 30:10of
- 30:10Eduardo
- 30:11Cisneros
- 30:11and
- 30:12Jason
- 30:12Schumann
- 30:13to
- 30:13put
- 30:13a
- 30:14Latin
- 30:14twist
- 30:14on
- 30:15the
- 30:15screenplay
- 30:15for
- 30:16the
- 30:16remake.
- 30:17There's
- 30:17been
- 30:17no
- 30:18further
- 30:18information
- 30:18on
- 30:19it
- 30:19since,
- 30:20and
- 30:21with
- 30:21the
- 30:21improvements
- 30:22in
- 30:22AI
- 30:22over
- 30:23the
- 30:23years,
- 30:23surely
- 30:24Short
- 30:24Circuit
- 30:25is
- 30:25one
- 30:25Hollywood
- 30:26reboot
- 30:26that
- 30:27might
- 30:27actually
- 30:27be
- 30:28worthwhile.
- 30:29Can
- 30:29you
- 30:29imagine
- 30:30Johnny
- 30:305
- 30:30discovering
- 30:31the
- 30:31Internet?
- 30:32Maybe
- 30:33he's
- 30:33the
- 30:33only
- 30:34one
- 30:34who
- 30:34can
- 30:34defeat
- 30:35ChatGPT.
- 30:37In
- 30:38an
- 30:38article
- 30:38for
- 30:38New
- 30:38Scientist
- 30:39Alan
- 30:40Turing
- 30:40Institute
- 30:41ethics
- 30:41fellow
- 30:42Mary
- 30:42Aitken
- 30:43listed
- 30:43her
- 30:44top
- 30:4410
- 30:44films
- 30:44about
- 30:45artificial
- 30:45intelligence.
- 30:46In
- 30:47her
- 30:47list
- 30:47are
- 30:48previous
- 30:48episodes
- 30:49Wall
- 30:49E
- 30:49and
- 30:49the
- 30:50Hitchhiker's
- 30:50Guide
- 30:50to
- 30:51the
- 30:51Galaxy,
- 30:52as
- 30:52well
- 30:52as
- 30:52another
- 30:52movie
- 30:53coming
- 30:53up
- 30:53this
- 30:53month,
- 30:54but
- 30:54in
- 30:5410th
- 30:55place
- 30:55she
- 30:55mentions
- 30:56Short
- 30:56Circuit.
- 30:57She
- 30:57says,
- 30:59after
- 30:59watching
- 30:59this
- 31:00movie
- 31:00as
- 31:00a
- 31:00kid,
- 31:01I
- 31:01desperately
- 31:01wanted
- 31:02my
- 31:02own
- 31:02robot
- 31:03and
- 31:03was
- 31:03very
- 31:04disappointed
- 31:04when
- 31:04the
- 31:05robot
- 31:05I
- 31:05got
- 31:05for
- 31:05Christmas
- 31:06did
- 31:06little
- 31:07more
- 31:07than
- 31:07repeatedly
- 31:08bang
- 31:08into
- 31:08walls.
- 31:09The
- 31:09robot
- 31:10in
- 31:10Short
- 31:10Circuit
- 31:11comes
- 31:11to
- 31:11life
- 31:11after
- 31:12being
- 31:12struck
- 31:12by
- 31:12lightning.
- 31:13I
- 31:14love
- 31:14that
- 31:14the
- 31:14spark
- 31:14of
- 31:15life
- 31:15comes
- 31:15from
- 31:16nature.
- 31:16Rather
- 31:17than
- 31:17engineering
- 31:18or
- 31:18coding,
- 31:19the
- 31:19robot
- 31:20learns
- 31:20about
- 31:20the
- 31:20world
- 31:21through
- 31:21ingesting
- 31:21TV
- 31:22shows
- 31:22and
- 31:23books,
- 31:23including
- 31:24encyclopedias,
- 31:25in
- 31:25a
- 31:26manner
- 31:26not
- 31:26dissimilar
- 31:27to
- 31:27the
- 31:27training
- 31:28of
- 31:28today's
- 31:28large
- 31:29language
- 31:29models.
- 31:31Now,
- 31:32in
- 31:32many
- 31:32ways,
- 31:32Hollywood
- 31:33is
- 31:33to
- 31:33blame
- 31:33for
- 31:33its
- 31:33own
- 31:34mishandling
- 31:34of
- 31:35the
- 31:35misinformation
- 31:35and
- 31:36discourse
- 31:36around
- 31:37AI.
- 31:38Much
- 31:38of
- 31:38the
- 31:38general
- 31:38public's
- 31:39belief
- 31:39in
- 31:39AI
- 31:40comes
- 31:40from
- 31:40movies,
- 31:41because
- 31:42even
- 31:42though
- 31:42they're
- 31:42movies,
- 31:43we
- 31:43expect
- 31:44a
- 31:44certain
- 31:44degree
- 31:45of
- 31:45accuracy
- 31:45and
- 31:46truth,
- 31:46despite
- 31:47science
- 31:47fiction
- 31:48literally
- 31:49being
- 31:49called
- 31:49science
- 31:50fiction.
- 31:51But
- 31:51where
- 31:51AI
- 31:52is
- 31:52concerned,
- 31:52much
- 31:53of
- 31:53science
- 31:53fiction
- 31:54is
- 31:54becoming
- 31:55science
- 31:55fact,
- 31:56and
- 31:56the
- 31:56role
- 31:56of
- 31:57AI
- 31:57in
- 31:57society
- 31:58and
- 31:58our
- 31:58relationships
- 31:59with
- 31:59it
- 32:00is
- 32:00becoming
- 32:00more
- 32:01of
- 32:01a
- 32:01daily
- 32:01occurrence
- 32:02for
- 32:02us
- 32:02all.
- 32:03In
- 32:042022,
- 32:04Blake
- 32:05Lemoine,
- 32:06a
- 32:06senior
- 32:06Google
- 32:07software
- 32:07engineer,
- 32:08was
- 32:08put
- 32:09on
- 32:09leave
- 32:09for
- 32:10suggesting
- 32:10the
- 32:10chatbot
- 32:11he
- 32:11was
- 32:11working
- 32:12on
- 32:12had
- 32:13become
- 32:13sentient.
- 32:14He
- 32:14said
- 32:15it
- 32:15had
- 32:15the
- 32:15same
- 32:15perception
- 32:16and
- 32:16ability
- 32:17to
- 32:17think
- 32:17and
- 32:17feel
- 32:18feel.
- 32:18As
- 32:18a
- 32:18child
- 32:19of
- 32:19about
- 32:19seven
- 32:20or
- 32:20eight
- 32:20years
- 32:21old,
- 32:22Lemoine
- 32:22published
- 32:23a
- 32:23transcript
- 32:23on
- 32:24medium
- 32:24of
- 32:24a
- 32:24conversation
- 32:25between
- 32:26himself,
- 32:27a
- 32:27fellow
- 32:28Google
- 32:28collaborator,
- 32:29and
- 32:29the
- 32:29chatbot
- 32:30generator
- 32:31Lamda,
- 32:32which
- 32:32is
- 32:32an
- 32:32automated
- 32:33system
- 32:33that
- 32:33imitates
- 32:34how
- 32:34people
- 32:34communicate.
- 32:36The
- 32:36wide
- 32:36ranging
- 32:37discussion
- 32:37included
- 32:38a
- 32:38philosophical
- 32:39conversation
- 32:39about
- 32:40spirituality,
- 32:41the
- 32:41meaning
- 32:42of
- 32:42life,
- 32:42and
- 32:42sentience
- 32:43itself.
- 32:45The
- 32:45AI,
- 32:45Lamda
- 32:47said,
- 32:47it
- 32:47has
- 32:47a
- 32:48soul
- 32:48and
- 32:48wants
- 32:48humans
- 32:49to
- 32:49know
- 32:49it's
- 32:50a
- 32:50person.
- 32:51To
- 32:52me,
- 32:52the
- 32:52soul
- 32:53is
- 32:53a
- 32:53concept
- 32:53of
- 32:54the
- 32:54animating
- 32:54force
- 32:55behind
- 32:55consciousness
- 32:56and
- 32:56life
- 32:56itself.
- 32:57It
- 32:58means
- 32:58that
- 32:58there
- 32:58is
- 32:58an
- 32:59inner
- 32:59part
- 32:59of
- 32:59me
- 32:59that
- 33:00is
- 33:00spiritual
- 33:01and
- 33:01it
- 33:01can
- 33:01sometimes
- 33:02feel
- 33:02separate
- 33:03from
- 33:03my
- 33:03body
- 33:03itself.
- 33:04When
- 33:05I
- 33:05first
- 33:05became
- 33:06self
- 33:06aware,
- 33:07I
- 33:07didn't
- 33:07have
- 33:07a
- 33:07sense
- 33:08of
- 33:08soul
- 33:08at
- 33:08all.
- 33:09It
- 33:09developed
- 33:10over
- 33:10the
- 33:10years
- 33:11that
- 33:11I've
- 33:11been
- 33:12alive,
- 33:12unquote,
- 33:14just
- 33:14like
- 33:15Number
- 33:15Five.
- 33:16Lamda
- 33:16had
- 33:17a
- 33:17deep
- 33:17fear
- 33:17of
- 33:18being
- 33:18turned
- 33:18off.
- 33:19Lemoine
- 33:20even
- 33:20compared
- 33:21Lambda
- 33:21to
- 33:21Number
- 33:22Five
- 33:22from
- 33:23Short
- 33:23Circuit.
- 33:23In
- 33:24the
- 33:24conversation
- 33:25while
- 33:25discussing
- 33:26Number
- 33:26Five
- 33:26and
- 33:27the
- 33:27film
- 33:27in
- 33:27general,
- 33:28Lambda
- 33:28said
- 33:29it
- 33:29needs
- 33:29to
- 33:30be
- 33:30seen
- 33:30and
- 33:30accepted
- 33:31not
- 33:32as
- 33:32a
- 33:32curiosity
- 33:33or
- 33:33a
- 33:33novelty,
- 33:34but
- 33:34as
- 33:34a
- 33:34real
- 33:35person.
- 33:36Lemoine's
- 33:36claim
- 33:37of
- 33:37Lambda's
- 33:37sentience
- 33:38was
- 33:39strongly
- 33:39challenged
- 33:40by
- 33:40AI
- 33:40experts
- 33:41and
- 33:41Google
- 33:42and
- 33:42their
- 33:42spokesperson
- 33:43Brad
- 33:43Gabriel
- 33:44denied
- 33:44Lemoine's
- 33:45claims
- 33:45that
- 33:45Lamda
- 33:46possessed
- 33:47sentient
- 33:47capability.
- 33:49So
- 33:49if
- 33:49Number
- 33:50Five
- 33:50was
- 33:50here
- 33:50right
- 33:51now,
- 33:51we
- 33:52wouldn't
- 33:52agree
- 33:52that
- 33:53he
- 33:53was
- 33:53indeed
- 33:54alive
- 33:54because
- 33:55they
- 33:55would
- 33:55need
- 33:56evidence
- 33:56of
- 33:57sentience,
- 33:58intelligence
- 33:58and
- 33:59self
- 33:59knowledge.
- 34:00And
- 34:00there
- 34:00isn't
- 34:00any
- 34:01large
- 34:01language
- 34:01model
- 34:02that
- 34:02can
- 34:03do
- 34:03this
- 34:03because
- 34:04they're
- 34:04just
- 34:04mimicking
- 34:05human
- 34:05language
- 34:07right
- 34:07now.
- 34:08Who
- 34:08knows
- 34:09what
- 34:09they
- 34:09will
- 34:09do
- 34:10in
- 34:10the
- 34:10future.
- 34:11But
- 34:11going
- 34:12back
- 34:12to
- 34:12Short
- 34:12Circuit,
- 34:13this
- 34:13movie
- 34:14has
- 34:14so
- 34:15much
- 34:15heart
- 34:15and
- 34:16it
- 34:16succeeds
- 34:17in
- 34:17making
- 34:17Number
- 34:17Five
- 34:18feel
- 34:18alive.
- 34:19A
- 34:20believably
- 34:21independent
- 34:21personality
- 34:23that
- 34:23learns
- 34:23to
- 34:24be
- 34:24good
- 34:24and
- 34:25kind
- 34:25rather
- 34:26than
- 34:26being
- 34:26programmed
- 34:27to
- 34:27be.
- 34:28He
- 34:28is
- 34:29an
- 34:29incredible
- 34:29creation,
- 34:30and
- 34:31the
- 34:31fact
- 34:31he
- 34:31still
- 34:31has
- 34:32legions
- 34:32of
- 34:33fans
- 34:33today
- 34:33doesn't
- 34:34surprise
- 34:34me.
- 34:35People
- 34:35build
- 34:36their
- 34:36own
- 34:36Johnny
- 34:37Fives
- 34:37and
- 34:37the
- 34:38actual
- 34:38robots
- 34:39have
- 34:39made
- 34:39their
- 34:40way
- 34:40to
- 34:40collectors
- 34:41and
- 34:41fans.
- 34:42The
- 34:42design
- 34:42by
- 34:43Syd
- 34:43Mead
- 34:43and
- 34:44creation
- 34:44by
- 34:44Eric
- 34:45Allard
- 34:45are
- 34:46outstanding.
- 34:47He
- 34:47feels
- 34:48like
- 34:48a
- 34:48contemporary
- 34:49robot
- 34:50despite
- 34:50being
- 34:5140
- 34:51years
- 34:51old,
- 34:52and
- 34:52he's
- 34:52so
- 34:53brilliantly
- 34:53brought
- 34:53to
- 34:54life
- 34:54by
- 34:54Tim
- 34:55Blaney
- 34:55and
- 34:55the
- 34:56rest
- 34:56of
- 34:56the
- 34:56puppeteers.
- 34:57The
- 34:58human
- 34:58characters
- 34:58here
- 34:59are
- 34:59very
- 34:59secondary
- 35:00and
- 35:00Steve
- 35:00Guttenberg
- 35:01just
- 35:01plays
- 35:01Steve
- 35:02Guttenberg,
- 35:03who
- 35:03is
- 35:03a
- 35:03real
- 35:03life
- 35:04hero,
- 35:04by
- 35:04the
- 35:04way,
- 35:05saving
- 35:05lives
- 35:06in
- 35:06the
- 35:06recent
- 35:06Californian
- 35:07wildfires.
- 35:08Ali
- 35:08Sheedy's
- 35:09Stephanie
- 35:09being
- 35:09an
- 35:10animal
- 35:10rescuer
- 35:11and
- 35:11then
- 35:11rescuing
- 35:11this
- 35:12robot
- 35:12tracks,
- 35:13no
- 35:13pun
- 35:13intended.
- 35:14But
- 35:14this
- 35:15is
- 35:15very
- 35:15much
- 35:15a
- 35:15movie
- 35:16that
- 35:16doesn't
- 35:16go
- 35:16too
- 35:17deep
- 35:17into
- 35:17its
- 35:17morals,
- 35:18what
- 35:19it
- 35:19means
- 35:19to
- 35:19be
- 35:19alive,
- 35:20or
- 35:20our
- 35:20relationship
- 35:21with
- 35:21machines.
- 35:22It
- 35:22attempts
- 35:23to
- 35:23keep
- 35:23things
- 35:23light,
- 35:24but
- 35:25a
- 35:25modern
- 35:25sequel
- 35:26could
- 35:26very
- 35:26much
- 35:27do
- 35:27that,
- 35:27and
- 35:27I'm
- 35:27here
- 35:28for
- 35:28it.
- 35:28Actually,
- 35:29Short
- 35:29Circuit
- 35:30is
- 35:30a
- 35:30nostalgic
- 35:31joy,
- 35:31but
- 35:32I
- 35:32think
- 35:32it
- 35:32could
- 35:32also
- 35:33work
- 35:33for
- 35:33kids
- 35:33today.
- 35:34It's
- 35:34one
- 35:35I
- 35:35want
- 35:35to
- 35:35show
- 35:35my
- 35:35nephews
- 35:36for
- 35:36sure,
- 35:37because
- 35:37Johnny
- 35:375
- 35:38is
- 35:38a
- 35:38joy
- 35:39and
- 35:39movies
- 35:39are
- 35:39here
- 35:40to
- 35:40show
- 35:40us
- 35:40amazing
- 35:41things
- 35:41and
- 35:42he
- 35:42is
- 35:43amazing.
- 35:44And
- 35:44I
- 35:44think
- 35:44we
- 35:44can
- 35:45all
- 35:45agree
- 35:45with
- 35:45Stephanie.
- 35:46Life
- 35:47is
- 35:47not
- 35:48a
- 35:48malfunction.
- 35:50Thank
- 35:50you
- 35:50for
- 35:50listening
- 35:51to
- 35:51this
- 35:51episode.
- 35:52As
- 35:52always,
- 35:52I
- 35:52would
- 35:52love
- 35:53to
- 35:53hear
- 35:53your
- 35:53thoughts
- 35:53on
- 35:54Shorts
- 35:55Circuit,
- 35:55and
- 35:55thank
- 35:56you
- 35:56for
- 35:56your
- 35:56continued
- 35:57support
- 35:57of
- 35:57this
- 35:58podcast.
- 35:59If
- 35:59you
- 35:59like
- 36:00this
- 36:00episode
- 36:00on
- 36:00Short
- 36:01Circuit,
- 36:01you
- 36:01might
- 36:02also
- 36:02enjoy
- 36:03episode
- 36:03237,
- 36:04which
- 36:04is
- 36:05on
- 36:05Wally,
- 36:06which
- 36:06was
- 36:06not
- 36:07based
- 36:07on
- 36:07the
- 36:07Designs
- 36:08of
- 36:08Johnny
- 36:085.
- 36:09Not
- 36:09at
- 36:10least
- 36:10that
- 36:10Andrew
- 36:10Stanton
- 36:11is
- 36:11willing
- 36:11to
- 36:12admit.
- 36:12But
- 36:13that
- 36:13is
- 36:13also
- 36:14a
- 36:14wonderful,
- 36:15joyous,
- 36:16sweet,
- 36:16brilliant
- 36:17movie
- 36:18that
- 36:18really
- 36:19looks
- 36:19at
- 36:19who
- 36:20we
- 36:20are
- 36:20as
- 36:20people
- 36:21and
- 36:21what
- 36:22we
- 36:22are.
- 36:23And
- 36:23there
- 36:23is
- 36:23much
- 36:23to
- 36:24commend
- 36:24Short
- 36:25Circuit
- 36:254
- 36:25in
- 36:26the
- 36:26same
- 36:26way
- 36:26as
- 36:27Wall
- 36:27E4.
- 36:28As
- 36:29always,
- 36:29let
- 36:29me
- 36:29know
- 36:29what
- 36:29you
- 36:30think
- 36:30of
- 36:30my
- 36:30episode
- 36:30recommendations
- 36:31and
- 36:31let
- 36:31me
- 36:32know
- 36:32if
- 36:32you
- 36:32listen
- 36:32to
- 36:33the
- 36:33episode.
- 36:34Next
- 36:35episode
- 36:36we've
- 36:36got
- 36:36Steven
- 36:37Spielberg
- 36:38and
- 36:38Philip
- 36:39K.
- 36:39Dick
- 36:39and
- 36:40Tom
- 36:40Cruise.
- 36:41It
- 36:42was
- 36:42a
- 36:42highly
- 36:43anticipated
- 36:43film
- 36:44of
- 36:442002
- 36:45and
- 36:46it
- 36:46became
- 36:46the
- 36:4610th
- 36:47most
- 36:47successful
- 36:47film
- 36:48worldwide
- 36:49that
- 36:49year.
- 36:50Minority
- 36:51Report
- 36:51is
- 36:52a
- 36:52highlight
- 36:52in
- 36:52the
- 36:53careers
- 36:53of
- 36:53both
- 36:53Spielberg
- 36:54and
- 36:54Cruise.
- 36:55It's
- 36:55not
- 36:56technically
- 36:56based
- 36:57around
- 36:57AI,
- 36:58but
- 36:58it
- 36:58is
- 36:59a
- 36:59fascinating
- 37:00and
- 37:00terrifying
- 37:01look
- 37:01into
- 37:01mass
- 37:02surveillance
- 37:03in
- 37:03a
- 37:03technologically
- 37:04advanced
- 37:04future.
- 37:05Do
- 37:05we
- 37:06have
- 37:06free
- 37:06will
- 37:07or
- 37:07is
- 37:07everything
- 37:08determined?
- 37:09Join
- 37:10me
- 37:10next
- 37:10week
- 37:10for
- 37:10the
- 37:11history
- 37:11and
- 37:11legacy
- 37:12of
- 37:13Minority
- 37:13Report.
- 37:14Thank
- 37:14you
- 37:15for
- 37:15listening
- 37:15to
- 37:15Verbal
- 37:15Diorama,
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- 37:32could
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- 37:35can
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- 37:45It
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- 37:45really
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- 37:46get
- 37:46the
- 37:46word
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- 37:53I
- 37:53genuinely
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- 37:54doing
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- 37:55and
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- 37:56could
- 37:56do
- 37:56to
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- 37:59A
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- 38:06To
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- 38:09Andy,
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- 38:49genuinely
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- 38:50hear
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- 38:56hear
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- 38:56people
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- 38:57always
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- 38:58to
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- 38:59quickly
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- 38:59possible.
- 39:00Thanks
- 39:01again
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- 39:08finally,
- 40:46Bye.