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Nation of Euthanization · David Pollack Primetime

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Speaker 1: ALL WEEK WE'VE BEEN ALL WEEK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
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Speaker 1: CHRISTA PIKE, THE MURDERER SET TO BE EXECUTED IN TENNESSEE. WELL,
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Speaker 1: THIS MORNING SHE'S IN A HOSPITAL BED IN NASHVILLE, CRITICAL CONDITION,
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Speaker 1: SUPPOSEDLY ON A VENTILATOR, RECEIVING WHAT HER LAWYER CALLS LIFE-SAVING
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Speaker 1: MEDICAL CARE. They spent their time trying to kill her.
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Speaker 1: 600 miles north in Canada, 45 people a day. 45
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Speaker 1: people a day die by lethal injection. But nobody files
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Speaker 1: an appeal in that case, and they ask for it there.
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Speaker 1: That is the difference. In Canada, we're not talking about criminals.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about innocent people asking to be euthanized. 16,499
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Speaker 1: Canadians were euthanized in 2024 under the program Ottawa calls
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Speaker 1: Medical Assistance in Dying or MADE. That's one out of
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Speaker 1: every 20 deaths in the country. Since the program began
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Speaker 1: in 2016, more than 76,000 Canadians have died this way,
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Speaker 1: and the trackers who count it say it crosses 100,000
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Speaker 1: this year. And it's not just some terminally ill person
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Speaker 1: who's suffering with cancer or some horrible disease. 732 of
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Speaker 1: last year's deaths were people who weren't dying at all.
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Speaker 1: The government's own report says nearly half of them cited
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Speaker 1: isolation or loneliness as a reason. Nearly half of everyone
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Speaker 1: in the program said they felt like a burden. A
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Speaker 1: Canadian think tank summed it up, saying euthanasia has gone
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Speaker 1: from exceptional to routine. And it's about to get easier
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Speaker 1: in March of 2027. Mental illness alone becomes a qualifying condition.
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Speaker 1: Depression will be enough. Parliament. Parliament is already debating whether
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Speaker 1: mature minors should be next. Mature minors. You know what
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Speaker 1: that is, right?
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Speaker 2: Children.
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Speaker 1: Children. The Netherlands, well, they got there first last week.
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Speaker 1: The Dutch health minister confirmed the first euthanasia of a
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Speaker 1: child under 12 since the rules changed in 2024. A
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Speaker 1: two-year-old born premature with brain damage and seizures, his parents signed.
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Speaker 1: The doctors agreed his suffering was unbearable. That's on top
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Speaker 1: of the 10,341 Dutch citizens euthanized last year, more than
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Speaker 1: 6% of all deaths, up from about 2,000 a year
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Speaker 1: in the 1990s. 499 had dementia, which raises the question
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Speaker 1: of who exactly consented in those cases. 174 died for
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Speaker 1: psychiatric suffering. The Dutch government's explanation for all of it
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Speaker 1: is Changing social attitudes towards death. Changing attitudes towards death.
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Speaker 1: For years, we argued that abortion was not only evil,
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Speaker 1: but a slippery slope. And look at where we are now.
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Speaker 1: Some states allow abortion up until the moment of birth.
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Speaker 1: And now it's okay, apparently, to abort people at any age.
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Speaker 1: And it's gaining popularity. Remember back in December of 2024
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Speaker 1: when a man walked up behind the CEO of UnitedHealthcare
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Speaker 1: on a Manhattan sidewalk and shot him in the head?
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Speaker 1: Brian Thompson had a wife and two sons. An Emerson
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Speaker 1: poll found about 4 in 10 voters under 30 called
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Speaker 1: the killing acceptable. A poll of college students found 48%
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Speaker 1: called it justified. The justification was his company's insurance denials.
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Speaker 1: And of course, we all remember when Lindsay Clancy strangled
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Speaker 1: her three children, ages five, three, and eight months old,
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Speaker 1: in their home in Massachusetts. Her defense was that she'd
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Speaker 1: been prescribed different psychiatric medications. And because of that, 11
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Speaker 1: of the 12 jurors thought she wasn't criminally responsible. Justification
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Speaker 1: was her pills. And Krista Pike, who tortured a 19-year-old
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Speaker 1: girl for an hour, ended up crushing her skull with
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Speaker 1: an asphalt chunk? Well, she had three justices of the
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Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court argue that her fundamental interest in
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Speaker 1: her own life outweighed the state's right to carry out
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Speaker 1: a sentence a jury handed down 30 years ago. Justification
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Speaker 1: was alleged abuse during her childhood. So the lonely get
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Speaker 1: a lethal injection on request. A disabled toddler gets one
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Speaker 1: with the signature of his parents. A CEO... gets one
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Speaker 1: on the sidewalk and kids cheer. Three children get one
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Speaker 1: from their mother and 11 jurors nod. And the one
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Speaker 1: person in all of this whom a jury actually sentenced
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Speaker 1: to die is the one person the system fights to
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Speaker 1: keep breathing? For 50 years, abortion has been the test
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Speaker 1: of how much death a society's conscience would tolerate. And
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Speaker 1: every time the line moved, we were told it would
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Speaker 1: stop there. Started at viability, remember Roe v.
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Speaker 3: Wade?
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Speaker 1: Then it was the moment of birth in some states. Now,
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Speaker 1: it's a two-year-old in the Netherlands, a lonely widow in Ontario.
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Speaker 1: Next March, anyone in Canada sad enough to ask. The
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Speaker 1: only question remaining now is how far an increasing immoral
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Speaker 1: society will allow the changing attitudes towards death to go.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now to answer that question is Amanda Aksman,
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Speaker 1: founder of Dying to Meet You and ethics director at
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Speaker 1: Physicians for Life. Amanda, welcome. I didn't know how bad
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Speaker 1: it was in Canada with respect to euthanasia. We just
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Speaker 1: don't hear about it. I remember not too long ago
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Speaker 1: that it was, what, Dr. Kevorkian, everybody made a big
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Speaker 1: deal that he had this assisted suicide, and apparently now
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Speaker 1: it's like suicide tourism in Canada. What is going on there?
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Speaker 4: Euthanasia was initially presented as being for the most extenuating
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Speaker 4: of circumstances. A grievous and irremediable medical condition was the
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Speaker 4: initial criterion, but gradually that changed. And why? Because if euthanasia...
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Speaker 4: If a doctor or nurse ending the life of a
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Speaker 4: patient intentionally is seen as a reasonable and compassionate means
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Speaker 4: to alleviate suffering by ending the life of the one
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Speaker 4: who suffers, then why wouldn't it be expanded to more
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Speaker 4: and more people? And this is the crucial point. Many
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Speaker 4: Canadians have become persuaded that this is not only a
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Speaker 4: reasonable end of life, but that this is the ideal
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Speaker 4: end of life. I engage seniors every single day who
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Speaker 4: tell me that they feel the need to justify why
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Speaker 4: they wouldn't have a doctor end their life, rather than
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Speaker 4: why they would like to die a natural death. This
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Speaker 4: is a massive, massive cultural shift, where it's true, we
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Speaker 4: ended lethal injections for the guilty, and now it's ostensibly
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Speaker 4: voluntary and for the innocent. And in a massive way
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Speaker 4: that has swept the country, one in 20 deaths is
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Speaker 4: the result of a doctor or nurse prematurely ending a
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Speaker 4: patient's life. And so this concerns you in America, because
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Speaker 4: many states are legalizing assisted suicide. Illinois and New York
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Speaker 4: were the most recent. And while the difference is, in
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Speaker 4: the U.S., assisted suicide requires the self-administration rather than the
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Speaker 4: direct provision of the lethal substance, that could be the
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Speaker 4: next frontier in America, the direct provision by a doctor
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Speaker 4: or nurse of a lethal injection to a patient. So
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Speaker 4: you've got to be on guard and let Canada stand
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Speaker 4: as a cautionary tale, as the UK recently did, of
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Speaker 4: the path not to go down.
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Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, it's a
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Speaker 1: moral question, right? I mean, society decides what their laws are.
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Speaker 1: It's a community standard, basically codified, but based on what
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Speaker 1: that society decides should be allowed or not allowed. A
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Speaker 1: lot of it's based on biblical principles. This is a
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Speaker 1: moral question. It's the same question that you can apply
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Speaker 1: to abortion and you can apply to euthanasia. Does a
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Speaker 1: society believe that humans should have the right to decide
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Speaker 1: when somebody dies, whether it's a a fetus in utero,
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Speaker 1: whether it's a child who's suffering, whether it's an old
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Speaker 1: person suffering, or maybe just an old person who's sad.
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Speaker 1: And the question is, when you start to kind of
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Speaker 1: put gray area around who gets to make the call
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Speaker 1: about when somebody dies, something that was preserved to God
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Speaker 1: for centuries, Well, where does it end? Because it seems
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Speaker 1: like there's endless justifications. Now, if an old person is
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Speaker 1: very old and they think that sounds great, what about
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Speaker 1: a young person who's very sick or sad? I mean,
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Speaker 1: what if they have Down syndrome or autism? I mean,
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Speaker 1: at what point is it not okay to let a
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Speaker 1: parent or a doctor decide when to end somebody's life?
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Speaker 1: I mean, should they even have that right to make
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Speaker 1: that decision?
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Speaker 4: Simply having criteria is itself the problem because anyone who
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Speaker 4: fits that criteria is dehumanized, is sent the social message
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Speaker 4: that they qualify for a state sponsored society-endorsed, premature end
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Speaker 4: to their life. That's why when some people say, oh,
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Speaker 4: if you don't want MAID, if you don't want this,
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Speaker 4: don't go for it. No, this concerns everyone because it
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Speaker 4: denigrates people simply to have it offered, simply to have
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Speaker 4: a legal regime where it is pervasive. That's why this
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Speaker 4: concerns absolutely everyone and why it dehumanizes anyone who qualifies.
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Speaker 4: And as the disability rights community likes to put it,
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Speaker 4: we are all temporarily able-bodied. And so this really touches
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Speaker 4: all of us.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And you know what's really terrifying about this is— and look,
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of doctors set out to do good.
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Speaker 1: But when— in the age of government healthcare, in the age of,
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Speaker 1: you know, certain people having beliefs of population leading to
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Speaker 1: environmental concerns, You know, I could see, and we saw
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Speaker 1: this in the United States during COVID, where the doctors
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Speaker 1: felt compelled to not let you have certain treatments and
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Speaker 1: compelled to have a certain other treatment. At what point
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Speaker 1: do politics and sort of local community standards make doctors say, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think you should go through with this? It just
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Speaker 1: creates such a dangerous ethical boundary between something that shouldn't
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Speaker 1: be in the control of the hands of people and
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Speaker 1: and something we trust the doctor to do. And I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you what really concerns me, and you pointed it out,
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Speaker 1: if somebody has dementia or if a child is disabled,
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Speaker 1: we already have such moral, you know, there's such a
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Speaker 1: moral dilemma with abortion because, you know, just because it's
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Speaker 1: inside of a woman doesn't mean that she has a
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Speaker 1: right to end its life. It's its own life in
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Speaker 1: and of itself. That is the big argument with abortion. Well,
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Speaker 1: what if a child is still not able to make
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Speaker 1: decisions for himself? What if a very old person can't
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Speaker 1: make a decision for himself? Who do we trust to
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Speaker 1: make a decision about whether somebody lives or dies? I
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Speaker 1: don't think this is something people should ever have the
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Speaker 1: ability to decide, right?
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Speaker 4: What you say is not hypothetical or speculative. It's actually
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Speaker 4: Canadian history. In 1993, a Saskatchewan farmer named Robert Latimer
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Speaker 4: gassed his 12-year-old daughter, Tracy, in his pickup truck because
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Speaker 4: he thought that she was suffering profoundly. She was unable
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Speaker 4: to communicate verbally, and nobody was able to consult her
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Speaker 4: about how she saw the value of her life. And
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Speaker 4: after he did this, there were trials. This went to
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Speaker 4: the courts and the public sympathy went largely to the father,
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Speaker 4: who was described as a clean living, hardworking Saskatchewan farmer,
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Speaker 4: mercifully taking his daughter's life. And Tracy, this 12-year-old girl,
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Speaker 4: was dehumanized, referred to as a 38-pound diaper-clad disabled kid
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Speaker 4: who couldn't speak. And so that is the shift. I
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Speaker 4: would contend that is the turning point when you have
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Speaker 4: public sympathy shift, because this reveals that it wasn't about consent.
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Speaker 4: She couldn't consent. It was about a judgment on the
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Speaker 4: value of life, the value of a life that, yes,
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Speaker 4: may be fraught with challenges, but what do we do
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Speaker 4: in the face of suffering? Our own and that of
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Speaker 4: others in our lives, this presents so many moral questions,
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Speaker 4: so many existential questions. It is a moral issue. It
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Speaker 4: is a cry of the heart issue. It is touching
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Speaker 4: on the medical issue, but much wider. Who are we
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Speaker 4: going to be? And it really, really matters because how
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Speaker 4: we're treated at our moments of greatest vulnerability is decisive
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Speaker 4: for the culture that we put forward.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 4: This is.
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Speaker 1: This is something that's really hard to kind of come
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Speaker 1: to terms with. And I'm glad you're bringing this awareness
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Speaker 1: to our audience. And it's important for people to know
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Speaker 1: we have to be really careful. You know, we don't
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Speaker 1: want gateway euthanasia bringing its way into our country because
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Speaker 1: it'll get to a point, like you just said, where
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Speaker 1: people get to decide whether or not other people get
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Speaker 1: to decide who lives or dies. This isn't what a
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Speaker 1: civilized society would do. Thank you so much for being here, Amanda,
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Speaker 1: and sharing this with us.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Coming up. Two Ole Miss students are dead, and the
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Speaker 1: pills came from basically a convenience store down the road
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Speaker 1: A night I told you about two Ole Miss students
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Speaker 1: found dead 11 days ago, Aiden Hamilton, a freshman from Colorado,
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Speaker 1: and Robert Strang, a junior from Atlanta, and about a
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Speaker 1: drug sold next to the beef jerky in some places.
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Speaker 1: Police suspected in both deaths. Now, tonight, we know where
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Speaker 1: they bought it, who sold it, what the man behind
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Speaker 1: the counter said about it, and why three layers of
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Speaker 1: law didn't stop it. Investigators pulled the bank records. Aiden
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Speaker 1: Hamilton bought Smacks pseudo-DHM tablets at Puffs Vape, Tobacco &
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Speaker 1: Beer on Heritage Drive in Oxford on September 9th, the 14th,
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Speaker 1: and the 20th. He was found in his dorm room
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Speaker 1: the next day with the pills on his dresser. Robert
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Speaker 1: Strang bought the same pills at a gas station called
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Speaker 1: Express Mart in Water Valley, 20 minutes from campus. On
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Speaker 1: September 9th and on the 11th, he was found in
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Speaker 1: his bedroom off campus with the Smacks packet on his nightstand.
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Speaker 1: Two students, two stores, one product. The label says Kratom.
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Speaker 1: The lab, well, it says otherwise. Those tablets contain a
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Speaker 1: synthetic opioid compound cooked out of the kratom. And now
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Speaker 1: that's a plant, by the way. That's like a leaf.
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Speaker 1: They extract it and make this other chemical compound that
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Speaker 1: the DEA puts on Schedule 1 right alongside heroin. They
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Speaker 1: call it gas station heroin. Three days after the boys died,
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Speaker 1: an undercover informant walked into Puff's, Wearing a wire, according
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Speaker 1: to the federal complaint filed yesterday, the clerk, Yawa Mosley,
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Speaker 1: sold him the pills, tied the bag shut, and told him,
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Speaker 1: be careful because they were killing people. He hid the
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Speaker 1: product when other customers came in. The next day, narcotics
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Speaker 1: agents raided the store and carried out more than 500
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Speaker 1: units along with THC cartridges and gummies. Mosul of 51
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Speaker 1: and his 18-year-old son, Islam, now face federal charges of
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Speaker 1: possession with intent to distribute. The DEA raided the Express
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Speaker 1: Mart 2. Its owner says the pill found by Robert
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Speaker 1: Strang's body didn't come from his store and he hadn't
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Speaker 1: been charged. Toxicology on both students is still pending. And
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Speaker 1: police say they haven't proven what killed them. So, yesterday morning,
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Speaker 1: 5 a.m., it almost happened now. Again, a 22-year-old was
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Speaker 1: found unresponsive at a house on Sweetgum Lane in Oxford.
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Speaker 1: Paramedics brought him back. Synthetic kratom was in the room.
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Speaker 1: Police say this one isn't a student and isn't connected
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Speaker 1: to the two other deaths. It's just the third person
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Speaker 1: in 11 days in the same town. Now, get ready
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Speaker 1: for another twist. The owner of Puff's Well, it belongs
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Speaker 1: to a man named Amir Alaudi, 40 years old, born
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Speaker 1: in Yemen, a naturalized American citizen. In 2022, a grand
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Speaker 1: jury indicted him for trafficking hundreds of doses of an
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Speaker 1: illegal synthetic cannabinoid in vape cartridges, a charge that carries
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Speaker 1: up to 40 years. Now, before he could be prosecuted,
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Speaker 1: he fled the country. His store stayed open, though, for
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Speaker 1: four years. A shop whose owner was a fugitive from
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Speaker 1: a drug indictment kept selling synthetic drugs, essentially, to college
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Speaker 1: kids near a campus, and nobody shut it down. Now,
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Speaker 1: here's where the honest conversation starts. The Kratom plant itself,
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Speaker 1: the leaf people have brewed as tea for centuries, well,
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Speaker 1: that isn't what killed anyone in Oxford. As far as
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Speaker 1: anyone has shown, millions of Americans still use it. Many
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Speaker 1: of them get off harder opioids. The industry that sells
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Speaker 1: the plant says it wanted these synthetic knockoffs banned before
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Speaker 1: this happened, and that police should have named the product
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Speaker 1: the day they named the danger. Now, they may be right,
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Speaker 1: but the kid buying smacks at the vape shop doesn't
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Speaker 1: know the difference between LEAF, OR LAB, BECAUSE THE PACKAGE, WELL,
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Speaker 1: IS DESIGNED SO HE DOESN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. JOINING ME
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Speaker 1: NOW TO BREAK ALL OF THIS DOWN IS MAC HADDOW.
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Speaker 1: HE'S A SENIOR FELLOW ON PUBLIC POLICY AT THE AMERICAN
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Speaker 1: Kratom Association. And his group says these pills were never
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Speaker 1: Kratom at all. Mac, welcome to David Pollak Prime Time.
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Speaker 1: So a lot of people are talking about this. And look,
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Speaker 1: we've seen these weird things at gas stations, at convenience stores,
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Speaker 1: different boxes, different brands, different illustrations. But now people are
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Speaker 1: dying and now people are taking a close look at this.
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Speaker 1: Talk about what this product is and how the deaths
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Speaker 1: in Ole Miss are different from what this product's intent is.
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Speaker 2: So, David, you got it exactly right.
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Speaker 6: There's no way that a consumer is going to be
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Speaker 6: able to tell the difference between these products. And the
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Speaker 6: only way that we can deal with this is if
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Speaker 6: the law enforcement people do their jobs. They need to
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Speaker 6: make certain that the products that are available on the
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Speaker 6: shelves in the jurisdictions that they oversee and protect remove
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Speaker 6: these products and don't make it an ex post facto
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Speaker 6: thing after the fact. It's true that in Oxford and
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Speaker 6: in Lafayette County that the county sheriff and the police
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Speaker 6: chief made this a political talking point six years.
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Speaker 2: Ago when they wanted to ban all kratom.
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Speaker 6: That was unjustified, but it's banned in that county and
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Speaker 6: in that city, and yet these products are available. And
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Speaker 6: then adding insult to injury, the federal government actually scheduled
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Speaker 6: these substances that were sold in that shop back in
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Speaker 6: late August, and still they're on the shelves. It makes
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Speaker 6: no sense to us. The most important thing that consumers
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Speaker 6: should know is that 7-OH is not Kratom. They masquerade
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Speaker 6: as Kratom because they want to induce the 24 million
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Speaker 6: Kratom consumers in America to buy their products thinking that
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Speaker 6: they're Kratom, it gets them addicted very quickly, and they're
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Speaker 6: trapped into that cycle with all the risks of an opioid.
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Speaker 6: It's about time the federal government cracked down. They need
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Speaker 6: more work to do on that. But the local government
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Speaker 6: has no excuse that we can think of that they
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Speaker 6: didn't crack down earlier on this than they did. And sadly, tragically,
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Speaker 6: you have two deaths and you had an almost death
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Speaker 6: with another student or another young man in the area
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Speaker 6: that suffered from the very same.
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Speaker 2: Products that were found in those stores.
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Speaker 6: We don't know what the talk screen will say, but
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Speaker 6: certainly those products are illegal. They're dangerous and could have
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Speaker 6: contributed to these adverse outcomes.
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Speaker 1: Now, look, obviously Kratom has to be popular enough to
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Speaker 1: necessitate an entire association that you represent. So what is
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Speaker 1: the common use of Kratom, then, if not to be
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Speaker 1: manipulated and compounded into these dangerous substances?
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Speaker 6: So there are three categories of Kratom consumers. The first
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Speaker 6: are people that use Kratom recreationally, like a cup of coffee,
22:18
Speaker 6: gives them a boost of energy and increased energy. Then
22:22
Speaker 6: the second bucket of consumers, little higher serving size, are
22:25
Speaker 6: people that use it in order to fend off feelings
22:27
Speaker 6: of anxiety and depression. And then the third bucket of consumers,
22:31
Speaker 6: the one that gets the most attention, is one of
22:33
Speaker 6: the values that Kratom has, as identified by the National
22:37
Speaker 6: Institutes on Drug Abuse, that it helps people with acute
22:39
Speaker 6: and chronic pain and helps people stay away from opioids
22:43
Speaker 6: and get off of opioids. And they validated that with
22:46
Speaker 6: a new investigational new drug application they just announced.
22:50
Speaker 2: That is the beneficial purpose of Kratom.
22:52
Speaker 6: And despite all of the allegations that were false by
22:55
Speaker 6: the FDA originally, they've now come around. Today, FDA, the HHS,
23:01
Speaker 6: and the DA all agree natural Kratom isn't their focus.
23:04
Speaker 6: It's the synthetic, dangerous products.
23:07
Speaker 1: So then what can be done to ensure that the
23:11
Speaker 1: herb can't, or whatever, the supplement can't be manipulated and
23:15
Speaker 1: made to hurt people, but at the same time still
23:17
Speaker 1: make it available to the people who need it?
23:20
Speaker 6: So, David, that's exactly the right question. First, Congress needs
23:23
Speaker 6: to immediately pass the Connors and Gas Station Heroin Act,
23:28
Speaker 6: which is sponsored by Senator Moreno and Senator Lee in
23:31
Speaker 6: the Senate and Representative Gooden in the House. As soon
23:34
Speaker 6: as Congress gets back, they need to pass that bill
23:37
Speaker 6: because what it will do is even better than what
23:39
Speaker 6: the DEA has power to do, and that is it
23:41
Speaker 6: will require any Kratom product to maintain the same ratios
23:45
Speaker 6: that are present in the natural plant. No more tricks,
23:49
Speaker 6: no more manipulation, no more chemical synthesization because then all
23:53
Speaker 6: those products are banned. The second thing is the states
23:56
Speaker 6: need to enact strong KCPAs, Kratom Consumer Protection Acts. Let's
24:01
Speaker 6: make sure products that are available to the citizens in
24:03
Speaker 6: their state are safe. And then third, let's enforce this.
24:08
Speaker 6: We can't let sloppy enforcement, as we saw in Oxford,
24:11
Speaker 6: take place where it puts people at risk. This plant
24:14
Speaker 6: is helping save lives. We need to let that happen
24:17
Speaker 6: and not get interfered with because of opportunists who just
24:21
Speaker 6: want to profiteer on the backs of people that are
24:23
Speaker 6: desperately seeking relief.
24:25
Speaker 1: Yeah. And in reality, and it's a great point, because
24:27
Speaker 1: in reality, if they ban Kratom, they'll just find some
24:31
Speaker 1: other thing to manipulate into some other substance. Really, what
24:34
Speaker 1: it is, is like you said, it needs to be enforced.
24:37
Speaker 1: And there's a legislative solution to companies that are trying
24:40
Speaker 1: to create formulas of dangerous substances and then selling them
24:43
Speaker 1: just at any convenience store. So that is the right move.
24:46
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here and giving us
24:48
Speaker 1: your take on this. A very, very fascinating conversation.
24:51
Speaker 6: Last point is that 7-OH has not created any more
24:54
Speaker 6: than moonshine with corn. We need to find the right
24:57
Speaker 6: solution for the right problem. But thank you for this opportunity.
25:00
Speaker 1: A great point. Thank you so much for being here.
25:03
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Florida takes Pfizer to court, and the
25:08
Speaker 1: state's complaint says the company's own scientists flagged heart inflammation
25:12
Speaker 1: in March of 21, a month before Pfizer told the
25:16
Speaker 1: public there were no serious safety concerns. We have all
25:20
Speaker 1: the details coming up next.
25:25
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Speaker 8: Did you say free fries when you get vaccinated? Um,
26:11
Speaker 8: I got vaccinated. You're saying I could get this? These
26:16
Speaker 8: delicious fries?
26:18
Speaker 7: Wait a minute.
26:20
Speaker 8: But there's also a burger element to this?
26:23
Speaker 1: That was probably the cringiest thing I'd ever seen in
26:27
Speaker 1: my life. Who can forget the push to get vaccinated?
26:31
Speaker 1: FOR VACCINES, THE MANDATES, THE SOCIETAL PRESSURE, THE FRENCH FRIES
26:37
Speaker 1: AND THE FIRINGS. WE WERE ALL SUPPOSED TO DO OUR
26:41
Speaker 1: PART AND GET VACCINATED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
26:44
Speaker 1: GET BOOSTED AND VACCINATED, GET TATTOOS. WE WERE SO EXCITED
26:48
Speaker 1: TO BE VACCINATED. From the very old to the very young.
26:56
Speaker 1: And if you said otherwise, well, well, if you said otherwise,
27:01
Speaker 1: you were a criminal. Well, the criminals, they're fighting back. Yesterday,
27:07
Speaker 1: Florida Attorney General James Uthmeyer filed a lawsuit in St.
27:12
Speaker 1: Lucie County. And he didn't just sue Pfizer. He sued
27:16
Speaker 1: its CEO, Albert Borla, personally. Two counts under Florida's deceptive
27:22
Speaker 1: trade practices law, lying about safety and profiteering. $ 10, 000 per violation, $ 15, 000
27:30
Speaker 1: when the victim is a senior, plus disgorgement of profits.
27:35
Speaker 1: Every ad and every assurance made to a Floridian is
27:38
Speaker 1: a potential violation. So the exposure runs into the billions.
27:44
Speaker 1: Of Meyers' words, Pfizer deceptively marketed the products as safe,
27:50
Speaker 1: making billions while pregnant women were miscarrying their babies and
27:54
Speaker 1: teenagers were having heart attacks. Now, Pfizer says every representation
28:00
Speaker 1: it made had been accurate and science-based, and the suit
28:03
Speaker 1: has no merit. Let's look at the facts. On March 3rd, 2021,
28:10
Speaker 1: Israel's Ministry of Health wrote to the CDC and said,
28:14
Speaker 1: we are seeing a large number of myocarditis and periocarditis
28:19
Speaker 1: cases in young individuals soon after Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccination was administered.
28:25
Speaker 1: Four weeks later, Pfizer put out a press release reporting
28:29
Speaker 1: no serious safety concerns. By June, the FDA had added
28:33
Speaker 1: a heart inflammation warning to the label. January 2023, Borla
28:39
Speaker 1: was still saying, we've seen not a single safety signal.
28:46
Speaker 1: On pregnancy, the complaint cites Pfizer's own internal analysis from
28:51
Speaker 1: February 2021. Pride loosed through a freedom of information lawsuit.
28:55
Speaker 1: 458 vaccinated pregnant women tracked 52 miscarriages, most in the
29:02
Speaker 1: first trimester. And it cites a text message from January 2021,
29:06
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci to Rochelle Walensky, warning that if the reaction
29:16
Speaker 1: after the second dose, it could theoretically be associated with
29:21
Speaker 1: miscarriage in the first trimester. They knew. They knew the
29:25
Speaker 1: risk was there. The reply was definitely a good point.
29:29
Speaker 1: It was acknowledged. Five years later, the label still says
29:32
Speaker 1: there are no available data on use before 24 weeks.
29:36
Speaker 1: On transmission, Borla told the country in December 2020 that...
29:40
Speaker 1: CHOOSING NOT TO VACCINATE WILL AFFECT THE LIVES OF OTHERS.
29:44
Speaker 1: THE FDA SAID THAT SAME MONTH IT HAD NO EVIDENCE
29:46
Speaker 1: THAT THE VACCINE PREVENTED TRANSMISSION. PFIZER NEVER TESTED FOR IT.
29:51
Speaker 1: AND THE MONEY, MORE THAN $ 80 BILLION IN VACCINE REVENUE
29:54
Speaker 1: IN Now, the fight. Texas filed a similar case two
30:05
Speaker 1: years ago. A federal judge threw it out under the
30:08
Speaker 1: PrEP Act, the federal law that shields vaccine makers from
30:11
Speaker 1: liability during an emergency. Pfizer will try the same thing here.
30:14
Speaker 1: But last month, the Fifth Circuit heard Ken Paxton's appeal,
30:19
Speaker 1: and the judges spent most of the argument asking whether
30:21
Speaker 1: Pfizer had any right to move the case out of
30:24
Speaker 1: state court at all. Florida filed in state court on purpose. 2021,
30:31
Speaker 1: ask about myocarditis and you were spreading misinformation. Ask about
30:34
Speaker 1: pregnancy and you were anti-science. Say the shot didn't stop
30:38
Speaker 1: transmission and you got kicked off your social media platforms. 2026, though,
30:43
Speaker 1: Pfizer will finally have to answer those questions under oath
30:48
Speaker 1: in front of a jury. Jury, by the way, made
30:51
Speaker 1: up of people it called criminals. Dr. Kat Lindley is
30:55
Speaker 1: a board-certified family physician in Texas and president of the
30:59
Speaker 1: Global Health Project. Doctor, welcome back to David Pollack Prime Time.
31:05
Speaker 1: This is possibly good news for people demanding accountability for
31:08
Speaker 1: Pfizer's role in pushing out this COVID vaccine, right?
31:13
Speaker 9: It is, and you've really covered it all. Within 10
31:17
Speaker 9: weeks of the emergency use authorization, Pfizer already knew about
31:21
Speaker 9: the adverse events. They had about 158,000 adverse events and 42,000
31:23
Speaker 9: case reports. But as you said, Borla denied any of that.
31:32
Speaker 9: Even two years later in the interview, he denied that
31:34
Speaker 9: there are any issues with the safety signals. And I
31:37
Speaker 9: think it's really important that the state of Florida is
31:40
Speaker 9: going specifically after Pfizer and Borla because they are responsible
31:45
Speaker 9: for what has happened. And since Fauci has, you know,
31:49
Speaker 9: that auto pen immunity, I think this is a good
31:52
Speaker 9: way of trying to get some transparency and accountability.
31:56
Speaker 1: Now, if this works in Florida and the federal courts
31:59
Speaker 1: don't prevent the liability for Pfizer, this could potentially spread
32:03
Speaker 1: to all 50 states, right?
32:06
Speaker 9: It could, but the problem is the law that we
32:09
Speaker 9: have where you cannot sue the manufacturers for the vaccines.
32:13
Speaker 2: And even, you know, there.
32:14
Speaker 9: Were some cases where Merck got sued for the HPV
32:17
Speaker 9: vaccine and they ended up settling a lawsuit. I think
32:23
Speaker 9: if Florida can do this, this would be....
32:26
Speaker 2: Amazing.
32:27
Speaker 9: It will really make a difference in lives of many
32:30
Speaker 9: people who are vaccine injured.
32:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:32
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people. And I remember when
32:34
Speaker 1: we were told that there was no vaccine injuries, you
32:36
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to talk about vaccine injuries. Even on TikTok today,
32:39
Speaker 1: you can't say vaccine injuries or say anything about vaccines
32:42
Speaker 1: or your videos get taken down. This is, if nothing
32:45
Speaker 1: else comes out of this, the truth will. And that
32:48
Speaker 1: in and of itself will protect people in the future, right?
32:52
Speaker 9: Absolutely. And, you know, we do have military data from
32:55
Speaker 9: 2021 that showed myocarditis in male service members. And I
33:00
Speaker 9: think it's really important to look at that specific population
33:04
Speaker 9: to see what happened. And then, you know, you mentioned
33:08
Speaker 9: you have young adults, young male adults with myocarditis, pericarditis.
33:12
Speaker 9: You have mothers who are miscarried in the first trimester.
33:17
Speaker 9: And during this whole time, Pfizer, Fauci, Pfizer, Walensky at CDC,
33:24
Speaker 9: they're all saying it's safe and effective. Go ahead and
33:26
Speaker 9: have it done. In the meantime, many people have suffered
33:30
Speaker 9: and there is no accountability so far.
33:32
Speaker 3: Dr.
33:33
Speaker 1: Kat Lindley, thank you so much for being here and
33:35
Speaker 1: explaining all of this. And yeah, we're all hoping for accountability.
33:38
Speaker 1: We were lied to, people got sick, and the truth
33:40
Speaker 1: will finally come out. Doctor, thanks for being here.
33:44
Speaker 2: Thank you.
33:45
Speaker 1: Still ahead, the Theodore Roosevelt sailed out of San Diego
33:48
Speaker 1: Sunday with 2,000 Marines a day behind it. That makes
33:51
Speaker 1: three carriers heading to Iran or going to be in
33:54
Speaker 1: the area of Iran. The president told Time magazine more
33:58
Speaker 1: bombing after the midterms is possible. George Papadopoulos on what
34:03
Speaker 1: the ships are telling Tehran coming up next. Then, Fired
34:07
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34:09
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34:13
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34:15
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34:19
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35:04
Speaker 1: A massive naval buildup is underway. Up to 10,000 American
35:08
Speaker 1: sailors and Marines are steaming towards the Mideast. And the
35:11
Speaker 1: president says more bombing of Iran after the midterms is possible.
35:17
Speaker 1: The USS Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group left San Diego
35:21
Speaker 1: Sunday with the guided missile cruiser chosen and its destroyer escorts.
35:26
Speaker 1: One day, right behind it, the USS Macon Island Amphibious
35:31
Speaker 1: Ready Group carrying the 13th Marine Expeditionary Unit. The administration's
35:36
Speaker 1: line on what all of it is came from Mike
35:41
Speaker 1: Waltz Sunday morning.
35:43
Speaker 7: The president is keeping all options on the table. I've
35:46
Speaker 7: spoken with the negotiators. I've spoken with Secretary Hegseth. What
35:51
Speaker 7: the president is doing right now, as we've seen all along,
35:54
Speaker 7: is giving some talks some space.
35:58
Speaker 4: Talks are ongoing.
35:59
Speaker 7: They're happening at every level, from the more technical aspect
36:03
Speaker 7: of it all the way to the highest levels, of course,
36:07
Speaker 7: within both the Iranian government and the U.S.
36:09
Speaker 4: Government.
36:10
Speaker 10: What we are.
36:10
Speaker 7: Constantly seeing, though, is the— on the Iranian regime side, they
36:15
Speaker 7: are divided.
36:16
Speaker 1: There is internal fighting. All options. The carrier strike group
36:21
Speaker 1: is a floating air force, fighter jets, surveillance aircraft, missile defense,
36:25
Speaker 1: and destroyers that could put Tomahawk cruise missiles on a
36:28
Speaker 1: target from hundreds of miles away. Unlimited military options right
36:32
Speaker 1: off Iran's coast. Two American carriers, the George H.W. Bush
36:37
Speaker 1: and the George Washington, are already operating in the region.
36:41
Speaker 1: The Roosevelt is slated to relieve the Washington eventually. And
36:45
Speaker 1: nobody has said when. In the meantime, the overlap puts
36:49
Speaker 1: three carrier strike groups around the Middle East alongside two
36:53
Speaker 1: amphibious groups, more than 20,000 sailors and Marines, and hundreds
36:59
Speaker 1: of aircraft. Here's the president yesterday on how he thinks
37:03
Speaker 1: the war is going.
37:04
Speaker 3: We have a war going on with a country that
37:07
Speaker 3: will never have a nuclear weapon and is ready to
37:09
Speaker 3: fold up.
37:10
Speaker 10: We'll win very easily right now.
37:12
Speaker 3: They're just about.
37:19
Speaker 3: I believe right after the election we'll win, but maybe
37:22
Speaker 3: before the election, because they have 300%, almost like 312,
37:26
Speaker 3: I heard, inflation.
37:29
Speaker 5: Think of that.
37:29
Speaker 10: They have no Navy.
37:32
Speaker 3: The Navy, 159 ships, all lying beautifully at the bottom
37:36
Speaker 3: of the sea.
37:37
Speaker 10: They have no Air Force.
37:40
Speaker 3: Their Air Force has been totally extinguished.
37:43
Speaker 1: Now, of course, oil is moving with the ships up
37:46
Speaker 1: and down again. Big announcement today that the EU is
37:49
Speaker 1: sending diesel our way, and that means we don't have
37:52
Speaker 1: to ban our own diesel exports. So there will be
37:56
Speaker 1: relief for those prices soon, regardless of the military operation.
38:00
Speaker 1: But the military clock and the political clock I DON'T
38:02
Speaker 1: THINK THE PRESIDENT WOULD TEST PRESIDENT TRUMP. THEY ARE MOVING
38:03
Speaker 1: TOWARDS THE SAME MOMENT. THE MIDTERMS ARE A MONTH AWAY.
38:06
Speaker 1: IRAN KNOWS IT. TEHRAN MAY THINK THAT IF THEY CAN
38:08
Speaker 1: ABSORB THE PRESSURE, DRAG THIS OUT FOR A WHILE AND
38:12
Speaker 1: JUST WAIT TO SEE IF DEMOCRATS CAPTURE CONGRESS, THAT MIGHT
38:15
Speaker 1: BE GOOD FOR THEM. On that, somebody who understands that
38:22
Speaker 1: better than anybody else is George Papadopoulos, former foreign policy
38:25
Speaker 1: advisor to President Trump's 2016 campaign and author of Deep State. George,
38:30
Speaker 1: welcome back. It's been quiet on Iran for the last
38:33
Speaker 1: few days. And all of a sudden, we find that
38:36
Speaker 1: this strike group is heading their way. And, you know,
38:38
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't really dismiss this if I was Iran, right?
38:43
Speaker 11: Well, thanks a lot for having me, David. No, absolutely not.
38:46
Speaker 11: And Iran understands that President Trump's rhetoric are always followed
38:52
Speaker 11: up by direct action. For the last seven months, Iran
38:56
Speaker 11: has faced both the wrath of Israeli and American military
39:01
Speaker 11: power and are now facing the single greatest financial offensive
39:07
Speaker 11: that has ever taken place against an adversary by the U.S.
39:11
Speaker 11: Treasury Department's Their military has been decimated. Their former leadership
39:17
Speaker 11: is no longer ruling the country. Their once burgeoning nuclear
39:20
Speaker 11: program is non-existent. And economically, their inflation, as the president stated,
39:26
Speaker 11: is over 300 They can't pay their bureaucrats.
39:30
Speaker 2: People can't purchase food.
39:31
Speaker 11: They can't export their oil and natural gas the way
39:35
Speaker 11: they used to because of the secondary sanctions that the U.S.
39:38
Speaker 11: has imposed on countries that once purchased them. So essentially,
39:42
Speaker 11: Iran is a ticking time bomb of waiting.
39:45
Speaker 2: To implode from within.
39:47
Speaker 11: And the most important thing that's been happening just recently
39:51
Speaker 11: is that in September, oil exports from the Middle East
39:57
Speaker 11: rebounded to about 80% to what they were at.
40:01
Speaker 10: The beginning of the Iran conflict.
40:03
Speaker 11: You add that up with the G7 exporting diesel and
40:08
Speaker 11: the United States becoming a U.S. net energy exporter under
40:11
Speaker 11: the Trump administration, that will bode well for both oil
40:14
Speaker 11: prices and the economy. And I think as long as
40:18
Speaker 11: the American people actually know these facts, they will be
40:21
Speaker 11: galvanized for the midterms.
40:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, and regardless of what happens, I mean, we do
40:25
Speaker 1: have to do a better job, I think, of explaining
40:27
Speaker 1: how there will be a relief from gas prices soon.
40:30
Speaker 1: And what the president just announced today with diesel coming
40:33
Speaker 1: from the EU, these are all really big things that
40:35
Speaker 1: are going to drive down price. It's just going to
40:37
Speaker 1: take a little bit. But the president is doing something.
40:40
Speaker 1: He cares. He's concerned. He's doing something. But regardless of
40:42
Speaker 1: what happens in the midterms, it would be foolish for
40:45
Speaker 1: Iran to sit back and think it's going to make
40:47
Speaker 1: any difference whatsoever. President Trump isn't operating— contingent upon Congress's approval.
40:52
Speaker 1: I don't know if Iran understands that. If Trump is
40:55
Speaker 1: sending a carrier group to the waters off of Iran,
41:00
Speaker 1: he plans on using them, just like you mentioned. So
41:04
Speaker 1: this really is setting up the next phase of this operation. Iran,
41:08
Speaker 1: I do believe, is running out of time because I
41:10
Speaker 1: don't think President Trump's playing anymore.
41:13
Speaker 11: Well, this is going to really drive a lot of
41:17
Speaker 11: what President Trump's foreign policy legacy was going to look like.
41:20
Speaker 11: And the president is fully aware of how important once
41:25
Speaker 11: and for all reigning in this terroristic regime will be
41:29
Speaker 11: for his legacy and for international peace and security and
41:33
Speaker 11: for the future potential of U.S.-Iran relations. The president campaigned
41:39
Speaker 11: on and he won on preventing Iran from ever acquiring
41:43
Speaker 11: a nuclear weapon and from continuing to be the massive
41:47
Speaker 11: threat that it has been the last 50 years. During
41:50
Speaker 11: his first term, he took out General Soleimani and he
41:53
Speaker 11: showed the Iranians that he wasn't playing games. This time around,
41:57
Speaker 11: he doubled down on that effort And he showed them
42:00
Speaker 11: that my actions will always be followed up with direct
42:04
Speaker 11: military and economic might of the United States. So that's
42:08
Speaker 11: ultimately what's happening here, David, and why Iran is reeling,
42:11
Speaker 11: the United States is negotiating a position of power, and
42:14
Speaker 11: whether the Republicans win or lose the midterms, Eventually, every
42:19
Speaker 11: American will thank President Trump for his leadership when it
42:23
Speaker 11: comes to this specific conflict.
42:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the world will thank President Trump at
42:26
Speaker 1: the end. And Iran is running out of negotiation tools.
42:29
Speaker 1: I think the longer they stretch this thing out, I
42:32
Speaker 1: think it gets worse and worse for them, because at
42:33
Speaker 1: this point, they don't have any cards to hold. George Papadopoulos,
42:37
Speaker 1: always great to have you on. Thank you so much
42:38
Speaker 1: for being here.
42:40
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, David. Thank you. Thank you.
42:42
Speaker 1: Coming up next, it is Fired Up Friday, and we
42:46
Speaker 1: got some crazy stories for you. A Florida mom, a
42:49
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42:53
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42:55
Speaker 1: youngest was just two months old. The judge's words, you
42:59
Speaker 1: can't make this up. Chad Caton is fired up about
43:02
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43:47
Speaker 1: Well, it's Friday, and that means it's time for another
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Speaker 1: Fired Up Friday with my good friend Chad Caton. Now,
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Speaker 1: as usual, there's plenty to be fired up about. Now,
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Speaker 1: Chad doesn't know any of these stories. I haven't told
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Speaker 1: him what we're talking about, so he's going to see
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Speaker 1: it for the first time now on this show and
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Speaker 1: this week. A mother left her kids alone to go
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Speaker 1: on a carnival cruise. There's also a fly Dubai flight
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Speaker 1: we talked about earlier this week, that hijacking with those heroes. Well,
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Speaker 1: apparently some people think it's a false flag operation now.
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Speaker 1: It's all crazy as usual. Let's get right into it.
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Speaker 1: You know him, you love him, at least I do.
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Speaker 1: He's the founder of Operation Free Nation, Chad Caton.
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Speaker 9: Mr.
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Speaker 1: Fired Up himself, welcome back, Chad. Look, I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: to my home state of Florida, A mom was arrested
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Speaker 1: for leaving her four children at home to go on
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Speaker 1: a carnival cruise. I understand everybody wants to do that sometimes.
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Speaker 1: But now, this is a 29-year-old mother from North Miami Beach.
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Speaker 1: She left her kids, including a two-month-old infant and a
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Speaker 1: two-year-old child, to go on a three-day cruise, leaving from
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Speaker 1: the Port of Miami. According to police, they only found
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Speaker 1: out because the father was told she was taking the
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Speaker 1: kids to her grandmother for the weekend. But when he
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Speaker 1: stopped by to check in on his kids, the TV
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Speaker 1: was on, the kids were home, but there were no
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Speaker 1: adults present. Chad, what are we thinking about, you know,
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Speaker 1: the lady just wanting to get a break from her
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Speaker 1: kids in Florida?
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Speaker 12: Well, she shouldn't be allowed to own a teacup poodle.
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Speaker 12: I mean, at this point, she shouldn't be allowed to
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Speaker 12: have a fish. If anything has a heartbeat in her house,
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Speaker 12: she shouldn't be allowed.
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Speaker 10: To have it.
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Speaker 12: That being said, the only thing that I can hand
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Speaker 12: this to is the hippies that started this weird school
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Speaker 12: feminist movement back in 1969 in the Summer of Love.
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Speaker 10: And all those hippies realized they.
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Speaker 12: Couldn't smoke dope and hug on one another.
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Speaker 10: Since we're on network television. And they had to go
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Speaker 10: get a job.
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Speaker 12: So they all became teachers and went and taught our
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Speaker 12: kids to be complete and total morons. This lady obviously
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Speaker 12: needed a break. And at least she didn't kill him.
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Speaker 12: She just left him there like that other lady that
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Speaker 12: had a bad moment and jumped out the window.
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Speaker 1: Well, that is true. At least she didn't kill them.
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Speaker 1: She could have.
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Speaker 10: Isn't it sad we have to have a spectrum now?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, isn't it? All right, moving on. Now,
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Speaker 1: you heard, Chad, you heard about this fly Dubai plane.
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Speaker 1: It's the craziest story of the week. Hijacked by its co-pilot.
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Speaker 1: We talked about it yesterday. And then, you know, apparently
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Speaker 1: there's people who crashed into the cockpit. They took control
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Speaker 1: of the plane. It was starting to nosedive, dropped to
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Speaker 1: above 14,000 feet. And that's an important point because the
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Speaker 1: mask didn't come down, any of that stuff. They retook
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Speaker 1: the plane. And now, surprise, surprise, people like Marjorie Taylor
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Speaker 1: Greene are saying, oh, the mask didn't come down. This
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Speaker 1: whole thing was orchestrated. It's a setup. The Jews did it,
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Speaker 1: of course. Chad, how is there a growing narrative that
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Speaker 1: every time somebody does something heroic, it's a false flag
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Speaker 1: operation and it's all so the United States and Israel
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Speaker 1: can go to war or something?
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Speaker 10: Well, we're not allowed to feel good. We're not allowed
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Speaker 10: to look at people and say, hey, that was pretty cool.
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Speaker 10: We're not allowed to do that anymore.
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Speaker 1: The spears are out.
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Speaker 12: The tribes are in the chucking position and they're trying
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Speaker 12: to take.
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Speaker 10: Each other out. You're not allowed to have heroes anymore, David.
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Speaker 10: You're not allowed to.
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Speaker 12: If you have any sense of shalom or American pie,
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Speaker 12: you are automatically some.
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Speaker 10: Way or another a conspiracy retard. And this is the
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Speaker 10: world we live in right now. We are not allowed
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Speaker 10: to have heroes.
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Speaker 12: Thank God I'm not a firefighter anymore because, I mean,
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Speaker 12: I like going out in hell.
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Speaker 10: But now they throw things at you.
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Speaker 12: They don't say thank you. So this doesn't frankly surprise me.
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Speaker 12: And somebody like a Marjorie Taylor Greene that her ship
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Speaker 12: has sailed a long, long, long time ago. Now she's
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Speaker 12: got to find herself in some way or another to
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Speaker 12: be relevant.
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Speaker 10: Maybe she'll be the new Q or she was the
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Speaker 10: first one.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 10: But equally as dumb.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know, it is really concerning, though, when somebody with
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Speaker 1: a profile like Marjorie Taylor Greene gets out on her
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Speaker 1: social media and uses, doesn't understand the situation, uses evidence
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Speaker 1: that doesn't actually exist to suggest that, you know, this
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Speaker 1: is a false flag. It's just really reckless for people
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Speaker 1: to just go and abuse her platform. Plus, it hurts
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Speaker 1: her credibility. She's not always wrong on things. She gets
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Speaker 1: it right sometimes, but it really hurts her credibility when
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Speaker 1: she does stuff like that.
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Speaker 9: All right.
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Speaker 1: Last up. I think you're going to be more fired
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Speaker 1: up about this than anything. I've been really fired up
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Speaker 1: and disappointed really more than anything. As we get closer
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Speaker 1: to the midterms, everybody seems to have an opinion about
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Speaker 1: who will win power in Washington. We seem to be
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Speaker 1: fighting ourselves more than we're fighting the Democrats lately. And
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Speaker 1: now prediction markets... are getting in on the action. Polymarket
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Speaker 1: announced earlier this week that they are predicting over 93%
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Speaker 1: chance that Democrats will win control of the House next month. Now, look,
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Speaker 1: prediction markets, and I say this all the time now,
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Speaker 1: it used to be facts don't care about your feelings.
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Speaker 1: But thanks to the prediction markets and social media, feelings
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Speaker 1: don't really care about facts anymore. And regardless of the
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Speaker 1: fact that gas prices will go down, regardless of the
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Speaker 1: fact that President Trump is making deals with Europe to
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Speaker 1: bring diesel prices down, regardless of the good news coming
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Speaker 1: out of the economy, regardless of all of that, people
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Speaker 1: don't feel good. And because they don't feel good, they're
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Speaker 1: putting their money where their thoughts are. And it doesn't
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Speaker 1: look good for Republicans. Chad, what do you think in
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Speaker 1: heading into the all-important midterms? ABOUT THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT ABOUT
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Speaker 1: WHERE THEY THINK THE HOUSE IS GOING TO GO?
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Speaker 10: Well, again, I'm going to go back to history.
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Speaker 12: You can't give everybody a trophy and an orange slice
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Speaker 12: and expect them to go through life and understand a
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Speaker 12: little adversity.
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Speaker 10: And that's what we're currently dealing.
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Speaker 12: With with the Burger King Republicans, trademarked by Chad Caton,
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Speaker 12: because those people want.
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Speaker 10: It their way and they want it now. They will
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Speaker 10: burn the whole.
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Speaker 12: Damn thing down one way or another in order to
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Speaker 12: get it their way because they got a trophy and
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Speaker 12: an orange slice after every game. And then the last
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Speaker 12: two years, things have gotten a little complicated. And instead of,
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Speaker 12: I don't know, using.
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Speaker 10: AI, maybe a little Google, they.
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Speaker 12: Go out there and they say, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 12: You did all of this wrong. You didn't do anything
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Speaker 12: right for me. I'm not going to go look it
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Speaker 12: up because I don't want to be wrong.
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Speaker 1: And you know what?
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Speaker 12: I didn't get my trophy. I didn't get my orange slice.
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Speaker 12: So I'm going to cry and I'm going to cry, cry,
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Speaker 12: cry all the way to not voting because that makes sense.
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Speaker 12: It's like putting a shotgun in your mouth and not,
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Speaker 12: and pulling the trigger.
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Speaker 10: To see if it's loaded. This is the stupid that
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Speaker 10: we're dealing with right now.
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Speaker 12: It's because we become weak as a country and the
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Speaker 12: people in it are lazy.
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Speaker 10: This is where we are. And unfortunately, I'm not sure if.
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Speaker 12: Polly market's right, but I'm praying every day and night
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Speaker 12: that it isn't. And I'm out there as you see
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Speaker 12: on Twitter saying, smacking anybody I can that says, don't
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Speaker 12: go vote because we have one duty, one duty in this,
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Speaker 12: in this country. And that is to vote and be
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Speaker 12: a part of your civics. We don't do that. And
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Speaker 12: people are trying to find their trophy and they didn't
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Speaker 12: get it. Now they're mad.
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Speaker 1: It's sad. It's weak.
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Speaker 10: And it's pathetic on the most elementary level.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I understand people are hurting out there.
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Speaker 1: They don't like this economy. They feel like it isn't
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Speaker 1: benefiting them. They're feeling pressures of homes and car prices
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Speaker 1: and gas prices. And I get that. I'm sympathetic towards it. But, man,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to go far back in history. Like
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Speaker 1: you said, you can just go back two years and
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Speaker 1: remember what it was like when Democrats were in charge
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Speaker 1: of the House, the endless investigations, the impeachments. And by
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Speaker 1: the way, all of the reasons why gas is expensive
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Speaker 1: right now, why cars are expensive, even why homes are
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Speaker 1: expensive is because of the late effects of Democrat policies,
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Speaker 1: their fuel standards that President Trump just reversed, their lack
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Speaker 1: of refineries because of environmental regulations, their antagonistic stance towards
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Speaker 1: oil production, all of that. The late effects of bad
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Speaker 1: Democrat policies are hurting people right now. But President Trump
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Speaker 1: is doing everything he can to fix it. I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: put the people who ruined all of this and set
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Speaker 1: us astray back in power. And hopefully people remember that
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Speaker 1: message going into the midterms. Chad Caden, fired up as always.
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you being here, my friend. Have a
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Speaker 1: great weekend.
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Speaker 8: Hoorah.
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Speaker 1: Hoorah. All the time we have for tonight. Be sure
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Speaker 1: to join us Monday because this weekend, guys, big elections
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Speaker 1: in Brazil on Sunday. What will happen? Will Flavio Bolsonaro win?
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Speaker 1: Will Lula let him? We're going to break all of
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Speaker 1: that down on Monday. Watch it very closely. And plus,
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Speaker 1: we're following these developments in France. There's riots. Firefighters are
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Speaker 1: getting attacked. It's madness in the world, and we're going
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Speaker 1: to look into all of it over the weekend, bring
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Speaker 1: you the latest on Monday. As always, stay in touch
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Speaker 1: We'll see you same time, same place on Monday. Until then,
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Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Stay classy, America.
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