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#233: FSU Orange Bowl Instant Reaction · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to the North Florida sports network, the NFL SN.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to live.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: It's December 30th.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: We're coming right after the orange bowl scrimmage.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Was that today?
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: What was today?
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Like you keep thinking, wow, credit to Georgia, they have a lot of good players, but I mean, the game seemed like JV.
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: I thought we were playing lip skill, that bow man.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, we were today.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: You know, that was three.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: We had a football game.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: Basketball lost a tough one man, I could buzz it.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a football game in orange bowl.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: They called it an orange bowl between 12 and one bulldogs who look like the best team in the country, no doubt.
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, but they definitely want to accept they deserved to be playing a Florida state team.
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: That was the least full strength, so at least we could sleep better.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: But they're going to now talk about basically what this orange bowl is.
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: That orange bowl was 63, three, by the way, bulldogs 60 point win all time.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: Bull record all that stuff.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: But into the video tape you go only pain you will find.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: Remember that.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: What was that, yoda?
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: Man, I mean, we knew this right.
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: I honestly anybody that sat there and watched it off more power to you.
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: I was on the way back, I listened, I listened until about 28 to three and then I just know I'm not turned it off.
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: If you got coach and the players that did play.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: But we knew the story and we told you that was going to be it and don't let it be twisted.
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: They're going to try to tell you things like these players are losers.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just bullcrap, yeah, and a complete move of just polarizing a sport that is not supposed to be dancing with the stars, but now it is.
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: It is figure skating, it is all of those things, and which are great shows, by the way.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: I love dancing with stars, by the way.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: Have you been watching lately?
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: No I don't watch a lot of TV.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, actually it's one show I do actually like I love some dancing with stars, but it shouldn't be college football.
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: What's great about college football is the unpredictability of it.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: You know the spontaneousness of it in Georgia there's usually a little bit of mystery man, I'm not going to Georgia is awesome man.
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: They're like a, like a pro team.
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: They are like a pro team.
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: It's like I said dude, they're going to like.
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: And they had all their players.
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: They get nothing.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: You know they suffer in this as well, because any time they want to, you know and they deserve to.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: They're not suffering much, though.
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: No, but in terms of the optics of this, they can't point to this game and be like you know get recruiting and we deserve a lot.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: We deserve a lot of credit for beating Florida stage JV team no, and it may impress recruits and it probably will, they'll keep.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: But I'm talking about in terms of you know the narrative that we really should have been in the playoff.
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: If you're a Georgia fan, well, we said nothing for that.
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: I said literally 50 to nothing.
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: I don't care if it's 50, nothing by half, yeah, and which?
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: it almost was Could like yeah, I mean, but the game was swept under the rug.
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: This was nothing but a JV versus varsity scrimmage against a program that has been the precedent of the sport, was going for three straight national championships.
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: That was motivating the senior class to win 50 games.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, against a team that was that came back a bunch of seniors to go undefeated and only get denied an unprecedented decision ever by that committee.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: That should never be.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: Ever forgotten what they did Never, ever remember.
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: Forget what happened December 3rd.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't.
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think everybody ever will, because this bowl game is forever tied into it, right, and it's set a record for the biggest blowout.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it was a disgrace man, it was disrespect to the game.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you right now it goes on and he actually improved.
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: This is a guy who made a big improvement.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: He actually played well.
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: I you know, this is a complete disgrace to the sport.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with you, man.
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: The fact that that we scored three points with Glenn and actually, you know on a big play, on an explosive play, and you look at a team like Ohio.
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: State Managed to like Georgia, with zero weapons available at your disposal in the in the actual heart of what you play for, taken from you.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: It's impossible to do and they're going to take no no, don't let them do this.
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: They're going to put Jordan Travis on a pedestal.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: You can already see that.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: They already did that.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: Once they're going to put him on another one because he was there at the game.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: Where was everyone else?
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
• 5:47
  Speaker 2: Verse was there, it's coming man.
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: Verse was there, they're going to try everything.
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: They're going to try everything and say it's a bunch of losers.
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: It's a bunch of losers.
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: It's a loser mentality, bad leadership.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: No, it's not actually.
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: No, you, you destroyed that with the decision.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine what, what the coach or anybody on that staff has been through, because they they don't lie, they tell people straight up what's best for them.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: That's why you want to come to Florida State, because they're looking out for what's best for you.
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: Well, you can't, you can't, even with a good faith, tell any of those players that you expect them to take something seriously over their futures, over, you know, after they've just been told by the people that run college football, the network that runs college football, that they're best in what they've done for the past 13 weeks, doesn't really matter.
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: What's gonna be the saying though?
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: All right, well, I don't care if they had Jesus Christ in it.
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Defensive end.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: Well, that's great, man, that's great, that's gonna be it.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: If they had like, they would have lost that game and that might have been true, but Georgia would have never made it.
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: That doesn't matter, man.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: That just shows you the outcome of that game and how bad we just lost it, doesn't that?
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: shows you the system that was developed is four team best, best team, best team.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: No sport does that?
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: It's dependent on what team you're looking at.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now.
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: I just wish Florida State would have lost in a real game, because Probably would have been easier to take.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: yeah, and not ever been Actually had the team get beat Right.
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: That team never got beat as a coach how do you like?
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: Just you hold onto that.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: You tell the integrity of the whole.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: that's what you do, that's what you do man For Norville, like that's.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: One thing he can do is just hold onto the fact that you know what?
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: Nobody ever beat my team Right.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, we lost this game.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: We got blown off the field with it, but that was.
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: This is a bunch of guys that I'm taking into next year with Right.
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: Who plays what else?
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: Just like I mean that's.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: I asked a bunch of kids to do some stuff that they're not ready to do yet, you know, because we got thrown in a huge or be contributors, be relied upon to be.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: The main guys that have never played in a season.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: What was it 100% 97% of all, 97% of the touchdowns were not playing.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: I mean what are we doing?
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like, what are we doing?
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: We knew, we knew this was going to happen.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: That's what you expect when you're a six and six team going up against another six and six team.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: It's like you're losing a loved one.
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: They're in the hospital.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: You know they're going to die.
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: They lived a good life.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew it was coming.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: You knew it was coming they're going to die.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: And then they just had a bad like they.
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: They went out a little worse than it should have been.
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: They were like the nurses, somebody malfunctioned on the death, like there was some malpractice there.
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: They shouldn't have went out like this.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Like this team deserve better, this coach deserve better, this organization deserve better, the sport deserve better.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: What a mockery of this was to show right here in the holiday season to show 63 to three.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: And that's what you care about Unless you.
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: all you care about is the SEC.
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: Or eyeballs on your game Right, just to like, make it like just a hate list.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: Rg three said it's, it's a direct result of the snub.
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: What, what, what that game was?
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: It really was.
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: You never seen anything like it, you never seen anything like it because let's bring a camera.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: You never seen anything like it.
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: Let's bring a camera crew into the room where people's lives are going to be changed forever and you take the chance of winning a national championship away from someone without beating them is unjustified, like that decision.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: They should have got beaten a playoff, but the players should have played.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: I would have told you that.
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: Man I would, and Georgia was coming in.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: Let's say we're just saying this, so they're coming in hungry.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: Let's see what was the playoff game.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: They have young players, a better roster.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: They've won the last two national championships.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: For the love of God, I mean, what the hell kind of matchup was that?
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: What kind of disrespect was that?
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: So you're telling me Florida State fully, all the players except Jordan Travis, everybody else that opted out was playing in this game.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: You denied that chance.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: And they wanted to put an exclamation point by matching them up against one of the most historic teams ever and try to make it like FSU sucks and it's all unjustified, which is bull crap.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: And Georgia.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: Georgia is good.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: They're one of the best teams of all time.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Well, there's one play there in the SEC championship.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: They're in the playoff and if it was the four best teams, they should be in the damn playoff, because there ain't no four better teams than Georgia.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: No.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: And what are we doing?
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: What are we doing because Alabama beat him and there's a drama to it?
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: No, you can't.
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: You can't put a team in that didn't win their third.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: What's more important, though, this like getting FSU in and losing the ratings or losing the integrity of why you play the sport.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: It wasn't about ratings why FSU didn't get in man.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: No, there were.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: There were spots already reserved before this season, even kicked off man.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: They had certain conference patches affiliated with them.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: Right, doesn't have anything to do with ratings.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: You don't have any kind of like control over the sport.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: I want to tell you right now if that was a playoff game.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: if that game right, there was a playoff game, that Florida State had made the college football playoff and we get run off the field 63 to three and that the entire country is watching the entirety of that.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: That thing is lighting up Twitter, is lighting up the social media.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: It's still doing it now and it's a meaningless game with our JV team.
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: Well, it wouldn't have been like that.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: It's never about ratings.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: It's always been about who you're bringing to the table in terms of what those three letters are on your jersey and, like I said, we're rocking with the junior detective badge.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and when it comes down to it, florida you knew it Go have a Coke and a smile.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: It was announced, yeah, and it was like oh shit, georgia, this is a complete screw job, right, it's complete.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: Well, duh, they filed the it's, it's.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: It's like almost the legal thing is being now carried over on the field.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to an extent, but it I mean that's it's not new, man, it's not new, I know.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: We've been like we've been in the second Federal Conference since they, since they started the whole network dude.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's what it comes down to, yeah it was 10 years ago, they wrote it in there and we right right.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: We didn't have a lot of people.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: You know they'll.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: You know a lot of.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: We said it.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: And listen.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Alabama deserves to be in the playoff.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: They beat Georgia.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Well that when you wrote it in like best teams, you could just write in whoever the fuck you want it any year.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you could literally have like no, but I'm in like why don't you get some scouts and let's do a draft like you have the production to have all these analysis on who's projected.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Let's just do that, yeah.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: And let's just put up a, but that's not the sport, man.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: I believe Mike makes it.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: That was great back in 2017.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: I know I know that was it.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, florida State happens to be the guinea pig of this whole operation.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Right, meltdown, right, that's what it was.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: And my biggest, my biggest.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: No, discredit all of this to the quality of Georgia man.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: No, because.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Georgia looked like a machine tonight, that's the state played hard and I played better than he probably has the top two teams.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: man, I would have been in Georgia probably a two best team.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Right, my, my big, yeah, my big, and just screw the whole thing Right Right With teams.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big team, you're gonna leave out Florida State and like, oh it's because an injury Right.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Don't tell me that Georgia's not better than Washington, then Well, it's because Michigan beat up on on Penn State.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Screw it all, then what are we doing?
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Beat Ohio State right those two powerhouse teams ever fucking put those stupid rules in there.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Right, I got best.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: That's like a freaking like they.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: They found out the computer was hacked and then Randy, from fucking it, found a chance to write in his fucking own fucking rules and use that as an excuse to do so, or whoever.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: It was best teams, well things a joke.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: And they got lucky in the 10 years.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: The first year was an undefeated.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Florida State team was ranked third.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that, but combined 26 and oh, 26 and oh, and they were led what's the sport, and you know, but this is what you get, though.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get players like well, what the hell's the point of it?
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: That's that's.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I have to practice.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Have you played football?
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: You know you have to practice every day and it's a and it's a dedication and the thing you have to do every day.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: So, yes, the answer is it's about what's earned.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm, that's what I'm saying.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: The best.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Having to be subjective in a sport is ridiculous.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what we all found out.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: That was supposed to be what sports was not about.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: That's the whole beauty of sports is there's not really any subjectivity, it's it's competition.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Right, compete Are you just saying that because you for state Right, but no, I'm right, I'm saying that because I watch this never happened to any other team.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I watched the right now right, and then I watched him get told no, that shit sucks, you're not good enough.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: It was good, and I want the entire team decide.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, if it doesn't matter, then I got to go do what's best for me and which hurts the sport it does.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: It's a question hurts Florida State too.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: But now they're gonna have to answer questions they shouldn't have to know what he has any right to decision made by a committee.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's let's.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Let's decide it on a committee.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: But nobody has any of any right to question any of the kids that that sat out the game.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, here.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Well, if you really wanted to prove your championship medal, no, oh, we would be playing for it.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: For who for what?
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: For who for what Exactly?
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Have you all been here?
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna give us a?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: trophy if we be Georgia.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Did you write that in?
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you write that in that that we're gonna get a freaking credit for it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: No, you said you're undefeated.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Hey, I know you're upset about not having a chance to do your whole lifelong Like journey and having that, but once you get over that and go play and show us what you're really worth against the best team ever Possibly because we want.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: We wanted to be an interesting matchup.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: We want people to be entertained.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: We wanted.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: We want you to take it seriously because we think you should, right.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: So I like, take, take Fabian, love it, for instance.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Right, you're gonna tell this guy right, you haven't been there, the work that he's put in the years he's been here.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Right, you didn't make the sacrifice to come back right and do this with a goal.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: You know, none of the people there did that.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Now you got to tell him.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Now you think you have the right to tell him that, hey, you should play in this game.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Right, because it means something to us what you did.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and what you did the other 13 weeks, it didn't necessarily mean anything to us, but you, we still think you and that's just an example, man, you, none of the kids who sat this game out like nobody has any right to expect them.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: They wanted this.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they knew this was gonna happen.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Haha, we're gonna fucking leave floor stayed out.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Not only we're gonna leave Mount, they're gonna be so mad, yeah.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: And then guess what?
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to play George.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Haha, we're gonna put him against Georgia.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: That's that mean.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: It was Because I'm gonna, I'm gonna be honest, is that good?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I'll give.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I'll give credit to the team and to Mike Norvell and all the coaches.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah for not coming out there and just taking a knee on every single snap and protest.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: No, exactly because that's what I would have wanted to do.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I was like you know what I'm not doing.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Burning face couldn't play in this game.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: No, but he's not.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: He's not healthy, he's not healthy.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: So why?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: sacrifice and any agent that that is good at his job anybody.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Gets this kid.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Even the coaches get this kid in a room.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Why didn't?
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: listen that.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Why didn't they tell him that?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: You let him Before why didn't they tell him that the previous game?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Why didn't they tell him that in the ACC championship?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Why did the agent tell him that before?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Not because what the committee just compromised in?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: The sport right and I now you know what they decided, so joy thinking about enjoy your dancing with the stars the Michigan, alabama, yeah, texas, the Washington.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: When do you start having kids opt out in the playoffs?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You know, hey, we're not.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: We're not on a team.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: We're not on a team in a buy.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You know we're the 10 seed, we're probably not gonna win.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Our quarterbacks hurt.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I'm a top wide receiver pick.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not playing why not?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's coming, that's coming, it's coming.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Next step yeah, yeah, and people are gonna bitch about it and there's no, oh my god it rule the sport about the same.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: They're the same brainless Druling at the trough man when they watch Florida stay, get snubbed and then just watch what happened in the Orange Bowl.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: It's, it was pretty bad, yeah, but that's, it's all, just indicative where the sport is going, but Georgia is a team that's littered with talent.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Georgia had no business playing a team that played hyped up.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: No, they had no business playing a team that had 25 players from the 2d right not playing in the game.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: That that's insulting to Georgia, that is true.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: It's a waste of their time to go there and have to practice that and, like kids, could have gotten hurt.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Whose fault is that?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: because it's not fine, I'm gonna say that oh Florida stays fault.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: It's your fault.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Culture losers yeah well that's went 13 and oh okay, yeah, and that's my point.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Is that who is Paul?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Fine bomb to tell any of those players.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: He's a radio, yeah.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: You've been there on the radio, man.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: The whole time these kids have been working, sacrificing who knows what each an individual kid, weekend, week out, year in, year out.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: You know a lot of them had the opportunity to go and get paid to play the sport and they came back.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: They sacrificed that because they had a goal in mind, right?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And then they just got told by a network and a room for fat nerds.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: So don't get like this every so it doesn't matter.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: So don't bitch about your shit game that the orange ball was exactly You're not.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: This is the dump you get when you try to fucking paint a picture that you did with the Rose Bowl against Alabama and Michigan well, in the historic matchups.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But there's a fucking undefeated elephant over there that's gonna get shat upon.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Well, you can't tell people that what they did, doesn't matter though, and then expect them to keep doing it, because it matters.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it should have been, that's just.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: You know it is Orange ball.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: You know what it really would have been a cool match up to see, would have been a better game is Alabama Georgia.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, rematch like like the the old Florida State, florida game in 96, you know.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Constellation prize for the SEC.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Any God forbid.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: We let that happen.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: That would have been fun, but it's not.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: It's not about that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Do you feel better?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: No, I mean.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm sure Georgia fans are happy they won the game and players are happy and you know, yeah, you didn't want to.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know you didn't want to lose to Florida State when they're down.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: No, that was too deep, that was obvious, yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: It came out.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: There was some you know Florida State Like the first.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: When you stopped him from scoring the first time it felt like in monumental.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I was taken like I was like holy, holy crap, yeah, we keep them scoreless in one whole quarter.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And then I just ran right down the field.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: It wasn't.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a team that was ahead of schedule, that piece together Key pieces to compete and they were discredited for the moves they made.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Well, in the environment that is now college football where you took the biggest hit was a bad matchup man, and it was along the defensive front.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Right, and you you, you were going to need every single gun you had, and I know this.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: No, you knew, you knew.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: So, it was over before it started.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Well, this just shows the whole chant.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Like Georgia was favored to beat every team in the playoff.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's supposed to be the best for Right.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Right, it's the laughable joke of it all.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: So I mean, like duh, the Bills were the best team in 90.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Right Missy.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Fuego, you know like.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, it happens Like Georgia lost the SEG Georgia is really good.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Florida State wasn't good enough.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: They would have lost the semifinal to somebody else and the sport would have moved on and you would have had the integrity of it Exactly.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And now you've lost that, it's gone, and everything that, that, everything else is bullshit.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, paul Feinbaum whatever Reese Davis has to say.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That's a fucking network that is paying them to say it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Nobody's paying me to say shit.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: All right, I am saying the fucking truth.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: It's bullshit, that's bullshit, all of it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: They're getting paid hundreds millions of dollars to say that shit, yeah.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: All right, and they laugh about it because they know it's bullshit, shit that anybody can't even say it with a straight face.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: No, watch them, watch them.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: They cannot say it with a straight face.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: They know what they're saying is just giant loads of shit Dump in the orange ball.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: The whole thing was a big shit.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: That was a great great, just a great show man, I guess.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad, I'm glad, enjoy it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: The kids got to, you know.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not even joking man.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: If this like I, if this happened to like another arrival school, I would be upset.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I really would.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not even joking, I would be upset.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I would be upset, man it's.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, you never really see anything like it because you never saw off an undefeated team just get shit on like that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I mean like college football has always been something that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it took really advertisers to the family and the memory and they just took the whole sport kind of and took a big dump on it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got a real, Real greyhound racing kind of.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Fiat rose petal pile of shit.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just Just gross, man, I don't know, I do.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a gross effort but, like I said, breville and looked a little bit better.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: A little bit better, I mean.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: It was a mismatch Right.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Like I said you, you Roster is at full strength.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: You know it's going to be a game.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: No, you probably talking about a game that's like you probably don't win because they got you beat at the quarter.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: You're talking about.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You just ripped the heart out of a team and then now you're going to put them on display against the best team in college football for the last three years for everyone to see.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a snuff film, man, it was a freaking.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: It was a freaking snack, it was a ESPN just aired a snuff film.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Was it on ABC or ESPN?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Espn, there's your headline, there's your tag line ESPN view air snuff film.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: It's what it was.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: You knew, that's what they're.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Joe Tessatory knew what he was doing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: And try to know it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Trot the tag team back down there, man Guys it's been the entire ACC championship talking about how great Texas looked.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Douchebag man, every single one of them.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Herb Street's topped on the list, don't come back to Tallahassee, Right?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Well, it's why I don't get on camera Now.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, what do you come back?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can come back.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: You even know, you might just.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Trunk of my core.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Trunk of my beauty.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: No, man just yeah yeah, let it out, man.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: That's what the show is about.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Oh man, we're all.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: We're just joking here.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Just let it out, man.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine it.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: If I didn't have that, I would.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I mean you talked about yeah, I remember the backward pass in the Miami game 2019.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, just just.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: This is the ball man For all of everything.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to put in his perspective just how horrible we were until this past few years.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I mean it has been enjoyable to watch the improvement over time.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: It's such that most of these kids yeah most of these kids are gone.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that sucks is that you know we heard it, man.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: You heard it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: When we talked to Fabian man, we heard it like he was.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: He was like trying to act like he was, you know, tough about it, which he should be, because his team's tough as nails.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the message man, his work do's better.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about what it should be.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And they, they, they discredit.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: It came in.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look what they put into it, man.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: All those kids have stayed for for three, four years, and not only did they do, that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: If they wanted to make a good match up, why didn't you put Missouri in the friggin orange bowl then?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it, dude.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Once it became apparent that, like Florida, state was gonna be down almost an entire half of their roster, like it should have just let me know that was gonna happen.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't care that was gonna.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Guys aren't pulling out right their hearts.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: You're gonna try it out there and watch and then watch when they don't.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: They're gonna.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna play.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: There's those guys.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: We know that Keon Coleman and these guys, if they don't have a chance, they're not gonna play.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So won't you leave them out?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna freaking.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: It's their fault.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Blame them.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Why didn't they prove how good they were?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: This shows how they're true, because no matter, yeah, proof, prove.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Are you serious now?
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, really yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: And that kind of speaks to the whole thing.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I mean it it's, it's done.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Nothing will ever make it better or or rectify it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: The whole country could unifiably agree like oh my god Florida State got screwed.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: It was bullshit or the.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make it any better.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't put the games back on there, doesn't give them the opportunity again.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: So it's, you know, melody really gives a crap outside of Florida State fans, but don't forget this team.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Now to come back and bite some hopefully that hopefully, I mean I like to believe that real college football fans will remember this For like what it really is.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, trash well, just like there are when it fun.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the last straw, how it just like, was like alright, where it's a, it's a freaking, oh Right, it's all TV, it's all commercial.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You know, you try it, you know it's crazy.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I think there's a good number of fans that have already, I mean I know, bought into that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah we just we've had the privilege when it happens right here, mac, us in the face, north Florida yeah, like anything else, you learn when it happens to you or something you would care about.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Or team, not necessarily, I don't really care, doesn't do me anything.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: If Florida States went, wins this game, I don't benefit in any way.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I Enjoy watching, being located close to a team that competes and To see it up and I to see that what happened kind of messed up, man, it's kind of messed up, yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: And to see how it ended, that they deserved a little bit better but that that we're gonna take away from George.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: George doesn't feel bad, they just look great.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: No, they shouldn't feel proper.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Georgia, we're not gonna put you in, we're gonna.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be the team that should have won it all.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I tell you what yeah, alabama won it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what George is better.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Hey what George?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Probably better.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my Alabama might have just got him on a day, would have got a rematch.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Georgia would have beat him like, like they did in the last few years.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: What you're gonna get is just tell you what Every year.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: So as long as Kirby and Nick are around, they're gonna be.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be in that playoff One way or the other.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I mean they just it's going to 12 teams.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: They just got a guaranteed spot.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Every year, every stinking year, man, 9 and 3, you are Alabama.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Who's your kid?
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, next to coach, alabama won't go.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: 9 and 3, that's the thing.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: What's gonna suck is when Florida State is fighting a nine and three Auburn team To get that spot.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've been got destroyed.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they just would have freaking blocked a damn rush to damn passer in that damn iron ball yeah.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but hey.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: People would have just gonna know that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear Whoever's gonna justify this result as to any kind of conclusion of this season.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: You need to cancel that person well, it's gonna be if you listen to anybody that says anything, otherwise you don't know shit.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unsubscribe, follow and right on everything.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: How do you?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror and put a middle finger up and flick yourself off.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: You take a double in your hand.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not doing it yourself, it's any freaking credit by denying what's real.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: All right, so take a huge dump in your own hand and then flick yourself off with it and smell it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ah, huh, hey, we scored the 63 to 360 scored.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Oh how state scored three points against Missouri.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but they had guys sitting out man.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: And what about the quarterback for Ohio State?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: They were in transfer, they're back up.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Right, they're supposed to be just as good, right?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I mean the?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: whole bowl sham.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: That's.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: This is what you get.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: You had it, man.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: You just gotta put that on the feet of team man, man.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: So if they win it, even if you don't want them in, it's like damn it, just put them in, okay they don't want a man, you got it, but they did it, shit, they did it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: What's worst case?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: scenario.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Now your shit is to get beaten.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Everybody laughs at him.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Now it's a joke man, the whole sports of joke.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: But I'll be watching.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Probably I'm not watching the playoff.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I Both Monday.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe you see a movie, you watch some birds, iron claw yes, yes, I'll go see some iron claw playoff?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: How about Efron with no shirt?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, all right, man.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Well, they appreciate you coming on, man, I Know man.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Well, it was a great year for the nose, don't?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: It's 13?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, and we'll talk to you next time right here on the North Florida sports network, you.