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Speaker 1: My name is Jim. This germ warfare, the battle of ideas,
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Speaker 1: some rush as always. Thank you for joining me in
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Speaker 1: the trenches.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pleasure, Jeremy, it's a pleasure. Thanks for
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Speaker 2: having me.
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Speaker 1: So you were just saying, yes, you should, maybe I.
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Speaker 2: Should maybe just mention. I don't know if this is
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Speaker 2: the right opportunity. Sorry, I don't want to do things
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Speaker 2: the wrong way, but three orders of business. If I
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Speaker 2: look a bit shaggy with the diesel shortages and what
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Speaker 2: have you. The nearest place I can get a haircut
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Speaker 2: from my house is an hour and a half's drive away,
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Speaker 2: so it's not like the old days where I could
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Speaker 2: just whip up and down. So I'm in desperate need
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Speaker 2: of a haircut and a good beard trim. And I'm
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Speaker 2: self conscious of that because I represent a serious organization
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Speaker 2: sat lounders, you know. Yeah, I look like a tramp
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Speaker 2: in the television.
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Speaker 1: You were just saying to me a moment ago before
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Speaker 1: hit record that where you are, the water has been
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Speaker 1: frozen in the pipes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been frozen in the pipes every morning, you know, overnight,
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Speaker 2: for over a month, maybe thirty five days or so
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Speaker 2: something like.
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Speaker 1: That, until it doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense.
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Speaker 1: We're supposed to have global warming. Earth is heating up.
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Speaker 2: Oh, Jeremy, please don't get me started. After our conversation,
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Speaker 2: I've heard a couple of conversations this morning. I've been
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Speaker 2: working very hard since half past two. I usually started
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Speaker 2: four am, but I started early. And I feel like
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Speaker 2: I'm one hundred years old. I have been tested today
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Speaker 2: by dumbness.
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Speaker 1: Well, you said one hundred years and there's an interesting
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Speaker 1: segue there. There was a gentleman by the name of
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Speaker 1: Senaphan Rensburg, and you're often on my podcast and you
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Speaker 1: represent sate Londers. And actually, something that we've as far
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Speaker 1: as I can recall, never spoken about is the importance
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Speaker 1: of Senaphon Rerensburg and his relationship to the sate Londers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the organization was founded by our leader, mister Gustav
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Speaker 2: Miller to prepare a national emergency plan for the Africana
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Speaker 2: people in light of a series of prophecies that this
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Speaker 2: guy gave over seven hundred pertaining to at a time
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Speaker 2: when there will be black rule in South Africa. You know,
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Speaker 2: he was dismissed as a lunatic. He lived from eighteen
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Speaker 2: sixty two to nineteen twenty six, if I'm not mistaken,
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Speaker 2: or eighteen sixty four to nineteen twenty six. And he
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Speaker 2: he gave prophecies in which he said, one day the
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Speaker 2: Blackswell rule the country, blah blah blah, and people dismissed
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Speaker 2: him as an absolute lunatic. And over time his prophecies
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Speaker 2: came true. And of course, by the time of nineteen
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Speaker 2: ninety four, when the African National Congress was elected to
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Speaker 2: govern the country in the first multiracial elections, a lot
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Speaker 2: of people revised their opinion, and so people started writing
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Speaker 2: books about him and all sorts. And I joined this
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Speaker 2: organization because I was the only witness to two sets
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Speaker 2: of things. I was the only person who was witnessed
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Speaker 2: to my briefing to executute Nelson Mandela's funeral as the
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Speaker 2: project's manager of the entire project five years before he died.
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Speaker 2: Almost of the day it was called Operation Necessity. I
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Speaker 2: was sworn to secrecy and I was to be the
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Speaker 2: you know, the main chappier in that field of a big, large,
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Speaker 2: one off events. And I was witnessed. So in the
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Speaker 2: briefing they said three things that I could remember from
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Speaker 2: reading in a book about him years before, which I
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Speaker 2: dismissed as rubbish. And then I thought to myself, you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be judged if I don't. Nobody else
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Speaker 2: got this clue. Nobody else was brief that this is
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Speaker 2: how this funeral is going to happen, using the same
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Speaker 2: words as Sena farrenzb. It was a very uncanny thing.
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Speaker 2: So the next morning I went to had a meeting
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Speaker 2: with one of my cousins, and I saw a secondhand
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Speaker 2: bookshop across the road. It was in a suburb of
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Speaker 2: Johannesburg that I didn't know, and I thought, I wonder
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Speaker 2: if that book that I dismissed is you know, they've
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Speaker 2: got a copy, and they had three or four. So
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Speaker 2: I bought one and I went to work. I was
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Speaker 2: working as a contractor for a big company, and I
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Speaker 2: told him that I was I come in in the
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Speaker 2: spirit of conscientiousness and diligence, because I'm that kind of
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Speaker 2: reliable guy. But actually I've got internal bleeding, you know,
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Speaker 2: that's how ill I am. Not to be too graphic,
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Speaker 2: so I can't stick around. I've got to go home.
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Speaker 2: And I took the next three days off, supposedly dying
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Speaker 2: of internal bleeding and reread the book to satisfy myself
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Speaker 2: that I wasn't cookie. So this guy just prophesiut about
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Speaker 2: the future, and he said some very dark things. And
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Speaker 2: so our leader, mister Gustav Miller, thought he would found
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Speaker 2: an organization to devote itself to preparing for such eventualities.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, that's the story.
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Speaker 1: Senaphon Ronsburgh is quite an important figure in the history
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Speaker 1: of africanadom and Boor history. But in order to understand
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Speaker 1: Senaphon Rensburg, correct me if I'm wrong, we need to
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Speaker 1: first understand the boys and Africanas and in the actual fact,
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Speaker 1: the differences between the two.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the best definition of sorry, Jeremy. The other thing
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Speaker 2: that I wanted to mention to you is for your
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Speaker 2: audience's sake, is that I have two enormous, ferocious hounds
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Speaker 2: and they are you know the expression par fuss. When
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Speaker 2: a child is too clinging to its father, they say
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Speaker 2: it's it's farther fast, stuckluck glued to its father. My
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Speaker 2: dogs are very par fuss. And if they come in here,
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Speaker 2: which they will, I can't close the door because they'll
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Speaker 2: bash it down. And they hear a noise in the
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Speaker 2: yard monkeys or baboons, or I've got pet geese and
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Speaker 2: I've got flock of goats, they'll go mad. So if
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Speaker 2: anybody hears any loud barking and screaming and shouting, and
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Speaker 2: you know, just be a bit patient, it'll die down.
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Speaker 2: The best definition that I've heard of the difference between
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Speaker 2: africaners and boys is they're obviously the same genetic stock.
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Speaker 2: They are composed of the first Dutch who came to
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Speaker 2: South Africa, the German girl orphans and the demobilized German
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Speaker 2: soldiers who came later, and the Huguenots who fled France
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Speaker 2: after the revocation of the Edict of Nant the Edict
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Speaker 2: of not being the Kingly Edict the Fiat if you like,
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Speaker 2: as saying that after the Saint Bartholomew's Night massacre of
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Speaker 2: the non Catholics of France by Catherine de Medici, the
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Speaker 2: King said, all right, to tell you what, we won't
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Speaker 2: slaughter you again. You know, just mind your own business,
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Speaker 2: you you Protestants, and his grandson revoked that edict, so
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Speaker 2: they foresaw slaughter coming, and the Huguenots around, not only
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Speaker 2: to South Africa, but largely to South Africa. So it's French,
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Speaker 2: German and Dutch people whom so Arthur Conan Doyle described.
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Speaker 2: If you've ever read The Great Boer War by Sir
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Speaker 2: Arthur Conan Doyle, the foreword is a justification of why
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Speaker 2: the British struggled so greatly against these Africana boords. In fact,
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Speaker 2: it's technically speaking words, but we'll get to that in
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Speaker 2: just a second. He said, they're the toughest people in
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Speaker 2: the world genetically, and he goes on and on and
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Speaker 2: on and on and on about it, and called to
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Speaker 2: the American journalist. The conservative journalist famously spoke about this
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Speaker 2: very thing at a conference about seven years ago. Very famous.
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Speaker 2: Best genetic stock in the world. No human beings are
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Speaker 2: better bred than the Africanas of this country. When the
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Speaker 2: British stole the Cape Colony from depends how you want
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Speaker 2: to word the story. William of Orange gave it to them.
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Speaker 2: They were afraid the French were going to take. Oh,
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Speaker 2: they're various interpretations that fundamentally they stole it seventeen ninety,
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Speaker 2: seventeen ninety five, and eighteen and again in eighteen oh five.
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Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, the Bos the Africanas I should say,
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Speaker 2: were so horrified by British notions of justice that many
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Speaker 2: of them emigrated from the defined colony. The colony was defined.
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Speaker 2: I live on a farm on the far northern border,
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Speaker 2: the very last, very last farm of that defined colony.
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Speaker 2: The africaners fled British justice, and some events happened along
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Speaker 2: the way. For instance, they were the only people in
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Speaker 2: the world who weren't recompensed for their slaves. In eighteen
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Speaker 2: thirty four, here comes one of these hounds when the
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Speaker 2: British abolished slavery. So in eighteen oh seven they say
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Speaker 2: the slave trade is abolished and not allowed to buy
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Speaker 2: and sell slaves anymore. Fast forward twenty seven years, eighteen
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Speaker 2: thirty four, and they say now you may no longer
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Speaker 2: own slaves. There's an uproar throughout the British Empire. The
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Speaker 2: British government relents. They say, all right, all right, all right,
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Speaker 2: will recompense you. You did spend the money under law.
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Speaker 2: After all, they were the only people in the world
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Speaker 2: who were not recompensed unless they went individually. You weren't
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Speaker 2: allowed to have proxies individually to London to collect their money,
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Speaker 2: so none of them did. By that time, they were
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Speaker 2: fed up with these barbarian English, so they trekked into
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Speaker 2: the interior. There's some debate about and I know the debates,
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Speaker 2: but they're not worth going into about how they first
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Speaker 2: got the name were it means farmer. I'll give you
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Speaker 2: one version of the origins of the story. They were
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Speaker 2: called track Buren pull farmers, and from that word we
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Speaker 2: get the star trek. They pulled wagons into the interior
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Speaker 2: of South Africa, and they were pastoralists who took cattle
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Speaker 2: with them, and they hunted, and they settled in some places,
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Speaker 2: but they moved about very much. So they were the
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Speaker 2: pull farmers, the farmers being pulled into the interior large
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Speaker 2: by large ox carts. So a very sort of different
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Speaker 2: arrangement to the way it was done in the United
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Speaker 2: States of America, a much larger card being pulled by
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Speaker 2: much slower, heavier animals, namely oxen.
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Speaker 1: Because they had to be but also but also that
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Speaker 1: could have been called pioneers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they just got the name track Bura and
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Speaker 2: that was shortened to bura. So you had those who
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Speaker 2: remained in the cape and they were playing africanas, and
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Speaker 2: then you had those who were intrepid pioneers fighting the
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Speaker 2: difficulties of Africas as Arta. Conan Doyle describes at length
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Speaker 2: how tough Africa is compared to the rest of the world.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they no other tough places in the world.
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Speaker 2: I am saying we're a contender for first place from
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Speaker 2: north to south.
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Speaker 1: That's that's that's quite true.
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Speaker 2: You have to look at that.
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Speaker 1: You understand that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that's that's the difference between Budha and
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Speaker 2: Africaan and same genetic stock. But the Burha called themselves Bora.
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Speaker 2: They don't like to be called Afrikaners because we're the
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Speaker 2: ones in the interior and we're we're not like those
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Speaker 2: sissies who remained behind in Cape Town and swell and
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Speaker 2: dumb and all those cushy places who sucked up to
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Speaker 2: the British. No, we went down and fought the Zulus
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Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. That's that's the simple
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Speaker 2: origin of the name.
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Speaker 1: Or in English, you say bors, not not Bha. Buddha
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Speaker 1: would be the Afrikaans word, but the plural in English
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Speaker 1: as Bors. The Afrikaaners who were around in the Cape
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Speaker 1: Colony at the time didn't want to be ruled by
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Speaker 1: the British. The ones who stayed behind lived with British rule,
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Speaker 1: and the ones who didn't want that decided to move upwards,
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Speaker 1: and that was the Great Trek. And they are the
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Speaker 1: ones who basically became the farmers close to the soil,
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Speaker 1: to the land, and they were the ones who identify
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Speaker 1: with the term boord.
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Speaker 2: Yeah in Afrikaans. Well, let me put it to you
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Speaker 2: this way that the burs are the only people of
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Speaker 2: the world who are named for the soul farmers. It's
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Speaker 2: a very very profound thing in the Africano psyche. It's
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Speaker 2: it's the meaning and the significance and the value and
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Speaker 2: the power of it is just everything. To Africana boods.
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Speaker 2: You know, the two terms are very bewildering. So to
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Speaker 2: those people who speak Afrikaans who come from the interior,
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Speaker 2: who can place their lineage back to the Great Trick,
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Speaker 2: it means everything. So yeah, that's the gist of it.
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Speaker 1: But here in South Africa, the difference between the two
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Speaker 1: is becoming increasingly more relevant.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it is such a confusing subject. If
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Speaker 2: you get into detail on the subject, oh you'll just
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Speaker 2: get mired or the audience will become bewildered and perplexed.
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Speaker 2: But you over the past that he the years it
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Speaker 2: is what are in twenty twenty six, nineteen ninety four,
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Speaker 2: thirty six years as thirty two years mansalmonly of ANC rule.
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Speaker 2: White people generally have become obliged to conform to the
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Speaker 2: ANC's core values. Otherwise you're just a bad person. Unless
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Speaker 2: you see everything the way I see it, you are
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Speaker 2: just a bad person. And many people in the in
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Speaker 2: the in the big cities for instance, have have conformed
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Speaker 2: to that. They've become kind of you know, they've abandoned
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Speaker 2: their values because they didn't want to be seen to
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Speaker 2: be holding them. I'll give you an example. Up until
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Speaker 2: say thirty years ago, the celebration of the Battle of
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Speaker 2: Blood River victory the Battle on the Norme River in
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Speaker 2: eighteen thirty eight, sixteenth of December was a very very
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Speaker 2: important quasi religious day in South Africa. It was celebrated
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Speaker 2: as a senior Christian holiday. Banks, hospitals, petrol stations, you
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Speaker 2: name it. Boy, they didn't dare function and there's all
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Speaker 2: sorts of religious stuff on television. Along comes the ANC
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Speaker 2: and people go from attending the services on the sixteenth
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Speaker 2: of December in all of the little towns of South Africa,
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Speaker 2: everywhere the length and the breath to not wanting to
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Speaker 2: be seen driving there by the new South African Rainbow nation.
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Speaker 2: You know, the black mayor or the black policeman. You
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Speaker 2: know who's going to think I'm a terrible racist because
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Speaker 2: I uphold my traditional African values and we celebrate this
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Speaker 2: day as a day of God in which four hundred
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Speaker 2: and sixty four men took on. And I happened to
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Speaker 2: know this very well. People can verify it by listening
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Speaker 2: to one of the greatest audio books in the world
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Speaker 2: called The Day of the Dead Moon by a man
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Speaker 2: called David Ratray, who was tragically shot dead in the
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Speaker 2: community that he was so devoted to the Zulu community
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Speaker 2: killed him, in which he describes how a royal legate,
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Speaker 2: if that's the right word, recorded the number of soldiers
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Speaker 2: that marched from Lundi and definitively it was exactly forty
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Speaker 2: amabuto which means regiments and the regiments work according to
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Speaker 2: age in the Zulu tradition, and ibuto one regiment as
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Speaker 2: nine hundred men nine hundred times forty thirty six thousand,
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Speaker 2: so four hundred and sixty four men fight thirty six thousand,
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Speaker 2: and they win. It was considered a thing that could
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Speaker 2: not have been achieved without God, so it was celebrated religiously,
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Speaker 2: so religiously. Now in some places it's no longer even celebrated.
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Speaker 2: But because people are too shy about these things, because
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Speaker 2: they're not politically correct, because white people shouldn't celebrate victories
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Speaker 2: over black people. God or not, then that tells you
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Speaker 2: everything you need to know about this episode that we're
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Speaker 2: recording now.
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Speaker 1: Jeremy, Now there's an interesting connection there to sinevon Ronsberg
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Speaker 1: because he became Delaray's right hand man essentially during that time, didn't.
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Speaker 2: He Yeah, well by then, you know we're talking about
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Speaker 2: the nineteen hundreds, but yeah, he was in not a
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Speaker 2: battle Blood River eighteen thirty eight. He was in the
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Speaker 2: Second Anglo Boer War or the Second War of Freedom.
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Speaker 2: And that's where he became famous because he kept on
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Speaker 2: making prophecies about what would happen the next day, who
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Speaker 2: would come around the corner. They famously got trapped in
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Speaker 2: a desert and we're drinking the blood of the neck
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Speaker 2: arteries of their horses to stay alive, and he said,
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Speaker 2: don't worry if we go left rather than right around that.
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Speaker 2: We have small mountains in South Africa with flat tops
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Speaker 2: that are called little heads copies little head, and if
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Speaker 2: we go this way around the copy rather than that way,
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Speaker 2: there'll be a fresh, beautiful spring. And two men who
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Speaker 2: were from that area said that it's not true. My
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Speaker 2: father farm's one kilometer downriver and his father farms one
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Speaker 2: mile up or not river. But you know they were
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Speaker 2: from that precise area, and there are no springs there.
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Speaker 2: When Sina said, don't you worry. And by this time
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Speaker 2: General Delaray trusted him so much. In fact, that wasn't Delarayate.
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Speaker 2: It was MANI merits in the million of nineteen fourteen,
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Speaker 2: my mistake. But anyway, the principle is this guy had
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Speaker 2: this phenomenal gift for predicting what would happen on the
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Speaker 2: battlefield next, next, and lear and behold they find the spring,
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Speaker 2: spend a few days, they rest their horses, and then
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Speaker 2: race off to German Southwest Africa, running away from the
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Speaker 2: British rulers of South Africa in nineteen fourteen, obviously, who
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Speaker 2: were trying to recruit them to go to the Great
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Speaker 2: War and die in delvil Wood and passioned of So
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Speaker 2: that's who he was. He had these incredible gifts, and
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Speaker 2: some very very important people came to realize that he
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Speaker 2: had a gift of prophecy. Called it hocus pocus, called
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Speaker 2: it abracadabra, call it whatever you like, but he had
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Speaker 2: a gift. There's it's just been proven over and over
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Speaker 2: and over again.
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Speaker 1: And specifically he was a Boer prophet, not an Africana prophet.
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Speaker 2: No. Yeah, because the track Buren, who emigrated from the
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Speaker 2: Cape running away from British notions of justice, who then
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Speaker 2: had their slaves taken away from them without recompense, founded
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Speaker 2: two republics that they called the Boer Republics, so they
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Speaker 2: had adopted their own name. Yes, we're the track Buren
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Speaker 2: it shortened to Burs and they founded the Republic of
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Speaker 2: the Orange Free State, named for the House of Orange,
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Speaker 2: the ruling monarchy of the Netherlands. And the transvole, which
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Speaker 2: means across the file river across the fall is like
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Speaker 2: muddy or faint. It's a word that is idiomatic and
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Speaker 2: difficult to translate faithfully every time. But yeah, if you're
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Speaker 2: very dusty, somebody might say, you know, clearer as fall,
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Speaker 2: your clothes are full. So there's this sort of muddy river,
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Speaker 2: big river in South Africa, and on the other side
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Speaker 2: of it, they they've formed the Second Republic. So the
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Speaker 2: two republics are formed. Lo and behold, we discover the
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Speaker 2: greatest trove of diamonds in the history of the world.
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Speaker 2: Then the greatest trove of gold in the history of
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Speaker 2: the world. And the city of London wants to lay
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Speaker 2: their hands on it, and they send, you know, four
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand soldiers all told, I think, to South Africa
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Speaker 2: to get those. And the irony is that after the
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Speaker 2: war was completed, that the mines didn't go to ethnic
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Speaker 2: black people, ethnic Indian people. You know, we have a
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Speaker 2: lot of Indian people in South Africa, ethnic mixed race people,
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Speaker 2: ethnically English people or ethnically Africana people. Gave them to
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Speaker 2: a totally different ethnicity that came from England to steal
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Speaker 2: all the stuff or to get other people to steal
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Speaker 2: it on their behalfs and then give it to them.
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Speaker 2: So the British Empire was bankrupted. There is interesting work
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Speaker 2: on this. Britain was done as a viable entity. It's
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Speaker 2: like clinging on during illness when you know the person
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Speaker 2: is not going to get better, and the doctor says
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Speaker 2: there's no cure, there's no nothing. So they're not going
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Speaker 2: to get up the next day and mow the lawn
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Speaker 2: and you go to work, do one hundred sit ups
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Speaker 2: or whatever whatever. And this very interesting work that demonstrates
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Speaker 2: that Britain was done by the end of the of
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Speaker 2: the Second War of Freedom eighteen nineteen ninety ninety nine one.
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Speaker 2: But it did, you know, still have its empire and
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Speaker 2: then it was able to fight in World War One
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Speaker 2: and in World War Two. But financially they pushed the
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Speaker 2: limits too far and the system was broken, it was exhausted.
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Speaker 1: But Sina was nevertheless important because he offered hope. I
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Speaker 1: mean the the Africaners. The Boors were under heavy attack
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Speaker 1: by the British and by the Bantu tribes, and they
24:27
Speaker 1: faced an uncertain vectory. In fact, they obviously eventually lost,
24:31
Speaker 1: as everybody knows to the British, but history has always
24:36
Speaker 1: treated them very kindly.
24:38
Speaker 2: Sena van Rainsburg gave a people that had been smashed
24:45
Speaker 2: into the ground reason to believe in their culture. You know,
24:52
Speaker 2: when a prophet comes. Let's assume that we all believe
24:56
Speaker 2: in prophecy. Just for a second. And let's assume that
25:00
Speaker 2: we get a profit in a certain community, and that
25:03
Speaker 2: guy's going around and he's saying, hey, buddy, don't water
25:07
Speaker 2: your lawn on Thursdays, and I encourage you to mow
25:11
Speaker 2: your lawn on Tuesdays, and that he's giving everybody a
25:14
Speaker 2: little bit of a sense of insight into the realities
25:18
Speaker 2: of the world. And given house.
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Speaker 3: Smashed, the boors slash the Africanas were after the Boer War,
25:31
Speaker 3: with just everything taken away from them.
25:36
Speaker 2: Knowing that you have in your history and your culture
25:41
Speaker 2: and your tradition somebody who can tell you the truth
25:46
Speaker 2: about the will of God is a very, very powerful thing.
25:51
Speaker 2: It's a very It's not always the truth that you
25:54
Speaker 2: want to hear, but it's I think it's very powerful,
26:01
Speaker 2: very encouraging to know that on your team, your team,
26:06
Speaker 2: your team has a guy who knows the two secrets
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Speaker 2: that are that are kept from the rest of us.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: How many of his visions did materialize? I mean you
26:21
Speaker 1: said earlier yet over seven hundred.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeremy, it was seven hundred and forty three or
26:28
Speaker 2: something like that. I haven't looked at the figures for
26:30
Speaker 2: a long time. It's a long time since I did
26:33
Speaker 2: scholarly applied research to the facts and the figures of
26:37
Speaker 2: this side of things. As you know, for some years
26:40
Speaker 2: now I've focused almost entirely on on international finance and
26:46
Speaker 2: trade and economics and kind of related things. But seven
26:51
Speaker 2: hundred and forty odd of which I know account was
26:54
Speaker 2: done some years ago by a professor, and the count
26:59
Speaker 2: some years ago was that over four hundred could be
27:02
Speaker 2: demonstrably said to have come to Yes, there was a
27:06
Speaker 2: first black ruler on the throne of South Africa. Such
27:09
Speaker 2: a thing, albeit impossible to conceive in the mind of
27:15
Speaker 2: the colonial if you want to use that word white
27:17
Speaker 2: person of the early nineteen hundreds, it did in fact
27:21
Speaker 2: transpire when Nelson Mandela was elected in nineteen ninety four. Yes,
27:26
Speaker 2: that man did subsequently die. Yes, the people came from
27:32
Speaker 2: all over the world to his funeral. Yes. As again
27:36
Speaker 2: as a completely separate prophecy, there was a state viewing
27:42
Speaker 2: in a glass coffin Yes, Europe. He called it a
27:50
Speaker 2: sudden wave of black and brown skinned mirants, migrants. We
27:55
Speaker 2: saw a sudden wave in two thy and fifteen. He
27:59
Speaker 2: said that would be a revival of conservatism in Europe.
28:03
Speaker 2: As a result of how it deteriorates, and it looks
28:06
Speaker 2: like we're seeing that now. He said that they at
28:10
Speaker 2: some point in Britain, in these sort of last dark times,
28:16
Speaker 2: they will go to the banks to get money. He
28:21
Speaker 2: used other words, I'm simplifying the story. He used certain
28:27
Speaker 2: words to mean certain things, over and over and over
28:29
Speaker 2: and over again. Many books have been written about that,
28:32
Speaker 2: about just that one feature. And if I have to
28:38
Speaker 2: tell it to you in the original wording and then
28:41
Speaker 2: interpret it to you becomes bewildering. But it's universally accepted
28:46
Speaker 2: that they go to the banks to look for more
28:48
Speaker 2: money and they see that there is none left, and
28:51
Speaker 2: we see this fantastic global crisis that is emerging as
28:56
Speaker 2: you and I speak, with US Treasury bond stity of
29:00
Speaker 2: bonds at over five percent. This is one of the
29:05
Speaker 2: great cataclysms of history. You know, people have talked about
29:08
Speaker 2: the day that US bonds goes to over five percent
29:11
Speaker 2: and guilts are maybe you know at whatever saw a
29:14
Speaker 2: British expert said yesterday that he thinks guilts are going
29:17
Speaker 2: to attract or have to have to offer yields of
29:21
Speaker 2: ten percent. He talked about how the pork sausages are
29:26
Speaker 2: no more, you know, and we understand what he meant,
29:30
Speaker 2: what he was saying. He explained it to his daughter
29:33
Speaker 2: and explained it to his friend, Boy Mussmann. These prophecies
29:37
Speaker 2: are well understood, they're not obscure. And so that's my
29:41
Speaker 2: long winded way of saying that many scores of them
29:44
Speaker 2: have come true, about four hundred, and the others may
29:48
Speaker 2: yet come true. There may yet be a bank crisis
29:53
Speaker 2: in Britain. There may yet be a civil war in
29:57
Speaker 2: South Africa. There may yet be discovery of unknown minerals
30:02
Speaker 2: in South Africa. There may yet be a submerging. You know.
30:07
Speaker 2: He famously prophesied that Britain would be drowned, submerged beneath
30:13
Speaker 2: the waves, and nobody could ever understand the prophecy. And
30:20
Speaker 2: this is a true story. I did an interview with
30:24
Speaker 2: a British group called World Broadcasting Network and I told
30:28
Speaker 2: this story. It goes like this, Sena Fanarinsburg says Britain
30:35
Speaker 2: will be drowned. Last week, a submarine carrying six This
30:42
Speaker 2: is when I told this story. A few years ago,
30:45
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two Octoberish Septemberish slipped its moorings in a
30:54
Speaker 2: Russian port, and it is believed that it deposited six
30:59
Speaker 2: person two megaton warhead nuclear torpedoes drones effectively off the
31:07
Speaker 2: coast of Britain. And the producer said to me, the
31:14
Speaker 2: next time I came on, he said, you know that
31:15
Speaker 2: story you told the other day? He said, you will
31:17
Speaker 2: not believe what happened to me. He said, yesterday I
31:20
Speaker 2: was at Portsmouth at the Admiralty for an afternoon soire
31:27
Speaker 2: or matinee, and I was just like, my friend asked
31:33
Speaker 2: me to go with him. He didn't want to be alone,
31:34
Speaker 2: and he kind of had to attend because he's got
31:36
Speaker 2: a big contract, but his wife didn't want to go.
31:38
Speaker 2: And he said, I found myself kind of stranded talking
31:41
Speaker 2: to a commodore with whom I have known nothing in common.
31:45
Speaker 2: And I said to him, there's this guy, this a
31:49
Speaker 2: South African guy who tells these stories about prophecies, and
31:54
Speaker 2: he claims that the Russians have prepositioned these six instruments
32:01
Speaker 2: and they're meant to cause title waves that completely swamp
32:05
Speaker 2: Britain and eradicated forever. And the guy said to him,
32:08
Speaker 2: since those submarine disappeared from our view from NATO, you
32:13
Speaker 2: know the sonar, the undersea sonars. We have been searching
32:16
Speaker 2: for it with every available vessel, day and night. The
32:19
Speaker 2: British Admiralty believed that that was the purpose of that
32:22
Speaker 2: that thing. So who knows, maybe it'll turn out to
32:26
Speaker 2: be true, just like those that have turned out to
32:28
Speaker 2: be true.
32:30
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, he had a vision of his commander,
32:35
Speaker 1: who I think was Delaery Chris Delaray at the time,
32:37
Speaker 1: and I think the quote something along the lines of
32:39
Speaker 1: passing into caves beyond Pretoria, followed by crowds of women
32:43
Speaker 1: and children fleeing from burnt down houses. Simon. I think
32:48
Speaker 1: that's more or less correct. And he was referring to
32:51
Speaker 1: the scorched Yes, sorry, he was referring to the scorched
32:55
Speaker 1: earth policy, wasn't he?
32:58
Speaker 2: I think so, Yes, the policy of Herbert Kitchener too.
33:04
Speaker 2: I've actually got something I want to show you, and
33:06
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna lean over. You'll be impressed by thiss
33:11
Speaker 2: my desk.
33:14
Speaker 3: M h.
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Speaker 2: M hm. Lord Kitchener came up with the idea of
33:25
Speaker 2: a scorched earth policy, destroying every last boor farm and
33:29
Speaker 2: putting the women and children in concentration camp in order
33:33
Speaker 2: to break the spirit of the boors and.
33:38
Speaker 1: Which actually is what happened, Yeah, which is what happened.
33:41
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. That murdered thousands of people,
33:45
Speaker 2: and that destroyed farms. It took oh gee, they've got
33:49
Speaker 2: a lot of people off the land. They caused a
33:51
Speaker 2: lot of poverty. You know, the farmer has lost everything,
33:55
Speaker 2: and to start a farm from nothing is practically impossible.
33:58
Speaker 2: It can't be done if all you've got is, say,
34:02
Speaker 2: two goats. To increase the flock to the point at
34:06
Speaker 2: which it will sustain you, your wife and your child
34:09
Speaker 2: and allow you to build a house is decades. The
34:12
Speaker 2: farmers who left the Cape, the original track burden, left
34:16
Speaker 2: with the wealth that had been created over generations in
34:20
Speaker 2: the building up of the Cape Colony. They could have
34:23
Speaker 2: been whatever they were in that relatively speaking, relatively speaking,
34:27
Speaker 2: confined space, blacksmiths were and they decided, we don't want
34:31
Speaker 2: any more of this British justice. It's ungodly, and so
34:35
Speaker 2: they became farmers. But they left with flocks and herds.
34:38
Speaker 2: You know, they had to have they had to have
34:40
Speaker 2: an oxbag, and they had to have a rifle, had
34:42
Speaker 2: to have something to begin with. And then it took
34:45
Speaker 2: ages that they destroyed everything. The British destroyed tens of
34:49
Speaker 2: thousands of lives that couldn't be then repaired. This book,
34:56
Speaker 2: whose title I'll tell you now, the Man who Killed Kitchener,
35:04
Speaker 2: is the story of the most incredible action adventure hero
35:10
Speaker 2: in the history of the world. There is no story
35:14
Speaker 2: that comes close to it. The story of Fritz du Kane,
35:21
Speaker 2: the story of the man who got revenge on Lord
35:24
Speaker 2: Kitchener for destroying his family's farm and who caused the Germans,
35:34
Speaker 2: who went in league with the Germans to sink Kitchener's
35:39
Speaker 2: ship and you know, by submarine during World War One,
35:44
Speaker 2: and he jumped off laughing, got you at last, you
35:48
Speaker 2: horrible human being, and his entire life story there is
35:53
Speaker 2: no comparison. I'm pretty well read person. There is no
35:59
Speaker 2: story like it, but people don't know it. It's like
36:02
Speaker 2: talking with respect with respect to Bour's about the battles
36:09
Speaker 2: of kop and fah lar means fight head like I
36:15
Speaker 2: spoke about the copies earlier, and fahla means a fight lager,
36:20
Speaker 2: so we talk about a lager of wagons in a ring.
36:26
Speaker 2: They are far more impressive stories than the story of
36:28
Speaker 2: Blood River notwithstanding the intervention of our our Lord and
36:33
Speaker 2: Savior in the Battle of Blood River. I'm I'm not
36:36
Speaker 2: downplaying the Holy One who lives forever. I'm just saying
36:40
Speaker 2: as stories of battles, nobody knows about them. It's like
36:45
Speaker 2: meeting a Protestant who's ever read the ninety five Theses.
36:49
Speaker 2: They don't exist. I've never met one. I'm sure there's
36:52
Speaker 2: some pastors out there who have some professors, but the
36:57
Speaker 2: people who base their faith on the ninety five thess
36:59
Speaker 2: have never end them. They don't know what they are.
37:01
Speaker 2: So it's a tragedy. It's a tragedy that this story
37:04
Speaker 2: is not known because all of the James Bond adventures
37:07
Speaker 2: put together don't compare to this guy's real life. And yeah,
37:13
Speaker 2: as I say, it's a tragedy that people don't know
37:15
Speaker 2: about the greatest odds in the history of warfare. There's
37:21
Speaker 2: nothing that comes close to them.
37:23
Speaker 1: Mhm. So, so Sena essentially predicted the scorched earth and
37:29
Speaker 1: the concentration camps. Uh, there's a there's another famous prophecy
37:33
Speaker 1: of Is where the British had cornered Christian de Vet,
37:39
Speaker 1: General Christian de Vet and they had to cross the river,
37:43
Speaker 1: and the river was flooded and it's very difficult to yeah,
37:47
Speaker 1: very very difficult to to to to get across. And
37:49
Speaker 1: in other words, the British had surrounded them and Sena
37:53
Speaker 1: had a had a vision of how they could cross
37:56
Speaker 1: that river.
37:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are so many such stories, Jeremy. The phenomenal,
38:03
Speaker 2: it's phenomenal. It's a gift. You don't have to believe
38:06
Speaker 2: in it your own self, but it exists independently of
38:11
Speaker 2: your opinion, you know, not, not you, Jeremy. Now, I'm
38:14
Speaker 2: just talking to your audience. Yeah, he said, if we
38:19
Speaker 2: cross over there rather than over here, we'll be just fine.
38:24
Speaker 2: The Lord tells me it'll be aoka and some of
38:28
Speaker 2: the generals. It was quite a big gang of guys
38:31
Speaker 2: that was entrapped. He said, that's ridiculous. Let's say that
38:38
Speaker 2: Johnny over there, who is in my contingents, his farm
38:43
Speaker 2: is across the river, and he says, this is the
38:45
Speaker 2: deepest point of that where you want us to cross.
38:48
Speaker 2: It's the deepest point of the river. It's absolutely out
38:50
Speaker 2: of the question. But course Della Ray would persuade these guys.
38:54
Speaker 2: He would say, listen, I thought the same, I thought
38:56
Speaker 2: the same until he proved me wrong for the sixteenth time.
39:00
Speaker 2: Trust me, just do it, you know, go in on faith.
39:04
Speaker 2: And they crossed the river safely. In along come the
39:06
Speaker 2: British chase after them. Some of them drown. It's like
39:10
Speaker 2: the parting of the Red Sea. He would foretell of
39:14
Speaker 2: contingents pursuing them. One famous one was that a party
39:21
Speaker 2: of Red Coats would come through a certain gap and
39:28
Speaker 2: would catch them, and they had to flee. And somebody said, well,
39:35
Speaker 2: that can't be true, because we have definitive information from
39:38
Speaker 2: our scouts that they are three days away, and that'll
39:44
Speaker 2: never happen. And lo and behold it did. He managed
39:49
Speaker 2: to persuade them to get moving, and the rear god
39:52
Speaker 2: of their gang was the binoculars could see that if
39:56
Speaker 2: they'd lingered another hour and a half, they would have
39:58
Speaker 2: been caught by the red Coats. Where's that particular contingence,
40:02
Speaker 2: Let's say the fifth Scott's Highlanders or whatever was not
40:08
Speaker 2: even believed to be in that territory. You know, there
40:11
Speaker 2: were days away, weeks away. Whatever. The stories are legion
40:16
Speaker 2: of him foreseeing the death of three hundred sheep, and
40:22
Speaker 2: he thought it was an allegory, and he told his mate, gee,
40:29
Speaker 2: I'm really perturbed by this prophecy that's been granted to
40:33
Speaker 2: be given to me, this vision call it. Choose your
40:36
Speaker 2: favorite word. Three hundred sheep die, And I don't know
40:42
Speaker 2: what it means, but I'm afraid that it's a portent
40:45
Speaker 2: of great danger and I have to get a word
40:48
Speaker 2: to somebody to so that they can save themselves, they
40:52
Speaker 2: can avoid terrible tragedy. And he saw the guy about
40:57
Speaker 2: a fortnight later. He went into for church for Nachmal
41:02
Speaker 2: holy communion, and the guy said to them, so, what
41:07
Speaker 2: was the story? Did you figure out? What was the
41:08
Speaker 2: story of the sheep? He said, I didn't have to
41:12
Speaker 2: warn anybody. It was God warning me. He said, we
41:14
Speaker 2: had a terrible storm. The guy said, yeah, no, I
41:17
Speaker 2: could see the storm above your farm from where I
41:19
Speaker 2: stayed twenty miles away. He said, who lightning struck a
41:24
Speaker 2: flock of sheep and killed every last one?
41:26
Speaker 4: I counted them, and it was precisely three hundred Jereman.
41:30
Speaker 4: The prophecies of this man were unbelievable, and they were
41:35
Speaker 4: verified by many, many different people, and they were written down,
41:39
Speaker 4: and you know, it almost becomes funny to talk about
41:43
Speaker 4: them at some point.
41:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, he couldn't write, but they were written down by
41:47
Speaker 1: I think your sister, if memory.
41:49
Speaker 2: Serves his daughter, Anna barden Orst.
41:52
Speaker 1: Was her name, daughter. I beg your pardon.
41:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were alluding to it earlier. So his real
41:56
Speaker 2: name was Nicolas van rensburgan Ensburg, but his nickname is
42:04
Speaker 2: Sena van Reinsburg. Sena means sea, so you know, in
42:09
Speaker 2: allegorical Afrikaans, that means a Christian.
42:11
Speaker 1: Prophet talking about his predictions or his prophecies. By the
42:16
Speaker 1: way I used predictions and prophecies sort of interchangeably, I
42:20
Speaker 1: suspect that I shouldn't be doing that, but nonetheless this
42:24
Speaker 1: is the single most documented and most striking prediction. Long
42:28
Speaker 1: before Delaray's death, Sena had described a vision the number
42:32
Speaker 1: fifteen on a dark cloud from which blood flowed, Delray
42:38
Speaker 1: returning home without his hat, and then a carriage covered
42:41
Speaker 1: in beautiful flowers. He could not say what the symbols meant.
42:45
Speaker 1: On the fifteenth of September nineteen fourteen, Dela Ray was
42:48
Speaker 1: killed at a police roadblock when officers fired on his car,
42:53
Speaker 1: mistaking it for the vehicle of a notorious Foster gang.
42:57
Speaker 1: He was shot by his own side exactly as Sina
43:00
Speaker 1: had told people would happen. And the year nineteen fourteen
43:04
Speaker 1: itself adds up to the number fifteen one plus nine
43:07
Speaker 1: plus one plus four. The flower draped carriage was the
43:10
Speaker 1: hearse at his funeral. And by the way, anyway, it's
43:15
Speaker 1: also quite important in South African history.
43:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I encourage people who are looking for a book
43:23
Speaker 2: to read to read The Lion of the West transwol
43:26
Speaker 2: by Louis Maynkes. The story of courste La Rey is
43:33
Speaker 2: just the most incredible story, story of a man's man,
43:40
Speaker 2: of a very adventurous life, very splendid life. Another good book,
43:44
Speaker 2: although not well written, but a gripping yarn is Paul
43:49
Speaker 2: Krueger's autobiography, The Story of How He Lost his Thumb
43:54
Speaker 2: just bigg as belief. The story of hunting lions is
44:01
Speaker 2: it's not possible. They couldn't have done it, but apparently
44:05
Speaker 2: they did so. Deli Ray's fantastic tale Senna for Arinesburg
44:09
Speaker 2: wonderful read. If you can find a good version of
44:13
Speaker 2: a book about him. Not all of them are equally good.
44:20
Speaker 1: It just so happens that about three years ago, I
44:23
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember three or four years ago, the
44:26
Speaker 1: official archive of Senna's prophecies burnt down just coinciate.
44:35
Speaker 2: Jeremy. I'm not dead certain when it happened, but I
44:38
Speaker 2: suspect that I can recall that it was during COVID
44:41
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, and I remember making a video saying
44:49
Speaker 2: it might have been in the extent of lockdowns, but
44:51
Speaker 2: in any case, it was so suspicious. The Lichtenburg museum
44:56
Speaker 2: that kept all of his original stuff, so a lot
45:00
Speaker 2: of that original material was lost to history, and the
45:04
Speaker 2: fires kind of inexplicable. Ah, you know, just one of
45:09
Speaker 2: those dodgy things. And it was at a time when
45:11
Speaker 2: I was speaking almost daily about Cenoph and Rainsburg. I
45:15
Speaker 2: did a lot of touring and a lot of interviews,
45:17
Speaker 2: a lot of speeches at conferences in the USA over
45:21
Speaker 2: the period twenty seventeen eighteen nineteen, and then during twenty
45:26
Speaker 2: when we were locked down, I was just doing these
45:28
Speaker 2: sorts of things, you know, over the internet, and all
45:31
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the entire trove of original Cenophon Rainsburg
45:36
Speaker 2: memorabilia is all burnt in a conflagration equivalent to what
45:42
Speaker 2: should happen in an inferno in a chemicals factory. Museum
45:53
Speaker 2: turns out to be as incendiary as a as a
45:58
Speaker 2: bullet making factory. It was just stank stank in the nose.
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Speaker 1: Sena's last recorded or one of his last recorded visions.
46:10
Speaker 1: I've got it here was a quote detailed description of
46:14
Speaker 1: General Bitter's death and funeral when there was no reason
46:18
Speaker 1: to suspect that the general's end was near unquote. He
46:21
Speaker 1: also described a quote sickle of death unquote that would
46:25
Speaker 1: find Butzer abroad. Bitter died suddenly in Ireland in August
46:30
Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen from a heart attack, shortly after returning from
46:34
Speaker 1: the Paris peace Conference.
46:38
Speaker 2: The story of General Louis but is a very very
46:52
Speaker 2: demultuous nil NISI bonum don't speak ill of the dead
46:57
Speaker 2: erm but very very sinister. His treachery in the Boer
47:07
Speaker 2: War was phenomenal. When he was confronted by Curs Delarayu,
47:17
Speaker 2: they were on their way in the train to assign
47:20
Speaker 2: the peace, the peace treaty with the British at the
47:26
Speaker 2: conclusion of the war, and the author I think it
47:32
Speaker 2: was Rudyard Kipling or Sir Ryder Haggard, but I believe
47:38
Speaker 2: it was Rudyard Kipling was seated diagonally from them and
47:48
Speaker 2: in the you know, in the train, and he heard
47:54
Speaker 2: General Cours Delaray continually confront General Louis boy about why
48:00
Speaker 2: he did not act in the interests the best interests
48:04
Speaker 2: of the boys, over and over and over and over
48:09
Speaker 2: again in the prosecution of the war. And he, that
48:14
Speaker 2: is to say, Radio Kipling said that Louis Berta refused
48:18
Speaker 2: to answer him or look at him in this repeated,
48:23
Speaker 2: ongoing confrontation. Refused to answer and refused even to look
48:31
Speaker 2: at him, and just turned his head and looked out
48:33
Speaker 2: of the window of the train through the entire journey
48:37
Speaker 2: on the on the way to the signing of the
48:43
Speaker 2: I want to say the Treaty of Renchant, but I forget. Yeah,
48:49
Speaker 2: Louis Berta, there is a belief that he died of
48:56
Speaker 2: shame after what he did to the boys in that war.
49:00
Speaker 2: Then how he became part of the British system, you know,
49:06
Speaker 2: he became the British proxy in South Africa. Whatever the
49:12
Speaker 2: Queen said, that was what we should do, and we
49:14
Speaker 2: should get over past grievances. And if the Queen says this,
49:18
Speaker 2: or if the Prime Minister says that, or the Chancellor
49:21
Speaker 2: of the Exchequer says the next thing, Well, that must
49:23
Speaker 2: be right. We should be behind it all the way.
49:26
Speaker 2: And many, many, many people in the last portion of
49:30
Speaker 2: many ordinary Africanus slash words god fearing conservative Christian people
49:37
Speaker 2: that they were believed that he was an out and
49:40
Speaker 2: out traitor, and young Sputs too for that matter, Young
49:44
Speaker 2: Sputs is wrong.
49:48
Speaker 1: You know, he loved he loved the crown. So simon,
49:57
Speaker 1: let's let's just also be fair to.
50:00
Speaker 2: Listeners.
50:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jan Smutz, who was a Prime Minister of South
50:03
Speaker 1: Africa is not looked kindly upon by Africanas.
50:10
Speaker 2: Well, no, he's a hated figure this one. But yeah,
50:14
Speaker 2: the Africanas you know.
50:16
Speaker 1: Sorry, now I was gonna say so, just one more
50:20
Speaker 1: talking point around Sina. I mean, the people can look
50:22
Speaker 1: him up. There's a huge amount on him if they're
50:25
Speaker 1: interested at least in sort of Africana history. But this
50:28
Speaker 1: is very tartly into woven into into the history of africanadom.
50:33
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've got it, Ja says. Sena said the
50:36
Speaker 1: African nation would pass through three siftings before entering the furnace.
50:41
Speaker 1: I mean, this is quite dark about his own people.
50:44
Speaker 1: The first sifting would have been the nineteen fourteen rebellion,
50:48
Speaker 1: when burs who refused to find Germany split from those
50:51
Speaker 1: who did and Brother stood against Brother. The second sifting
50:56
Speaker 1: would have been the nineteen eighty nine election, widely interpreted
50:59
Speaker 1: as the last moment of Africana political certainty, and then
51:03
Speaker 1: the third sifting was April nineteen ninety four, when the
51:07
Speaker 1: Africanas entirely lost control of South Africa.
51:14
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if I would agree that those
51:17
Speaker 2: would be the three great siftings. But I'm not saying
51:20
Speaker 2: they're wrong. I'm not saying your barcles better than You're.
51:22
Speaker 2: Far from it. I would just wonder if sure, I
51:26
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know, is that Yeah, I suppose
51:31
Speaker 2: because a sifting, You're right, you make a good point, Jeremy.
51:34
Speaker 2: A sifting is to remove the weavils, or to remove
51:39
Speaker 2: the husks of whatever cereal, or to make flower finer.
51:50
Speaker 2: So maybe, I mean, I'll spend the afternoon contemplating it.
51:57
Speaker 1: He also said that Africana leaders would succumb to the
52:02
Speaker 1: temptation of greed.
52:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, it's a it's a thing. Huh, it's a thing.
52:09
Speaker 2: I don't I think you know. There's been these attacks,
52:12
Speaker 2: these fleming news twenty four attacks on one Africana entity
52:18
Speaker 2: this week, and you know it's it's very reminiscent you
52:24
Speaker 2: and I made a big mistake, Jeremy, a grave error.
52:30
Speaker 2: Some years ago. We were I'm talking of the non
52:34
Speaker 2: experts who endeavored to learn, endeavored to become quasi experts
52:39
Speaker 2: on COVID. There were doctor Sherry Tenpenny and Mike Eden,
52:43
Speaker 2: and we know who the cast of characters was who
52:47
Speaker 2: were experts, and then there was Russell Brand. Don't put
52:51
Speaker 2: myself in your class or Russell Brand's class. But every fortnight, wait,
52:59
Speaker 2: bear with me, every fourth I don't now, I do it.
53:03
Speaker 2: Once a month. I did an interview that attracts safely
53:06
Speaker 2: five million listeners, So you know, I don't think but
53:12
Speaker 2: the only people I know who stood up against the
53:14
Speaker 2: COVID narrative with those experts, but we're not counting them.
53:17
Speaker 2: And then Russell Brand was allowed to keep his YouTube
53:20
Speaker 2: channel and he talked about COVID being rubbish for a lot.
53:23
Speaker 2: As you know, doctor Chris Martinsen, who's not a medical doctor.
53:27
Speaker 2: That's why I don't include him with the experts. I
53:29
Speaker 2: include him as an as a broadcaster. Doctor John Coleman
53:33
Speaker 2: who's got a PhD in nursing, so it's not directly
53:37
Speaker 2: that he's a virologist expert. And you and me and
53:41
Speaker 2: Scott Bolson, I can count seven people who continue to screamed,
53:48
Speaker 2: screamed about the COVID about.
53:53
Speaker 1: This well, UK column UK call him. Actually, I wasn't
53:58
Speaker 1: with you. I wasn't with you Colin at the time though.
54:00
Speaker 1: But yes, they were part of the pushback.
54:05
Speaker 2: And so we pushed back on the COVID, then on
54:08
Speaker 2: the injections, and then on how to handle it. So
54:12
Speaker 2: it was we were saying something like this, if you
54:16
Speaker 2: walk into a store and you stand in a queue,
54:19
Speaker 2: definitively everybody is not dropping deadlight flies around you, You
54:24
Speaker 2: stupid retard, You stupid retard. It's not possible for them
54:29
Speaker 2: to have invented a vaccine this quickly, and the ingredients
54:32
Speaker 2: that they're showing us are going to kill all of you,
54:37
Speaker 2: you mentally retarded full The last thing you should do
54:42
Speaker 2: is take the standard treatments for the illnesses that you
54:46
Speaker 2: got from the blasted thing. Those were our three chief narratives.
54:50
Speaker 2: And not to be great, I don't want to be.
54:53
Speaker 2: The Lord will judge me, and he will sort me out, Jeremy,
54:56
Speaker 2: I fear the Lord, my God. I don't mean to
54:59
Speaker 2: be grand about this, but we might have contributed to
55:02
Speaker 2: the savings of millions upon millions upon millions of lives.
55:07
Speaker 2: And we saved the lives of many very deeply, profoundly
55:13
Speaker 2: stupid people, you know, just in this very week. We
55:18
Speaker 2: are the cause. If anybody doesn't know the story of
55:22
Speaker 2: the Darwin Awards, look it up. It's an awards that
55:25
Speaker 2: the website still exists. For about forty years, a Canadian
55:28
Speaker 2: woman ran a website from the proto Internet in which
55:32
Speaker 2: she gave an award for the people who died most
55:34
Speaker 2: stupidly during the course of the previous year, thus doing
55:39
Speaker 2: the human gene pool a favor. Another thing worth mentioning
55:44
Speaker 2: is that one of the greatest interviews of all time
55:47
Speaker 2: is doctor Edward Dutton's interview with the title Spiteful Mutants.
55:58
Speaker 2: Spiteful Mutants. He talks about danger to the human gene
56:02
Speaker 2: pool of stupid people. And so you have now these
56:06
Speaker 2: journalists saying profoundly, deeply stupid things, and you're meant to
56:11
Speaker 2: take them seriously. You know, You've got to, Oh, heavens above,
56:16
Speaker 2: it's like people who criticize Oranya. All that Oranya is
56:20
Speaker 2: is an enclave about the size of a postage step.
56:24
Speaker 2: Forty two percent of the province of I think it's
56:27
Speaker 2: forty two forty two something like that has always only
56:31
Speaker 2: ever been owned by the Zulus. The Zulu royal house
56:36
Speaker 2: is called the Ingonyama Trust. It is against the laws
56:39
Speaker 2: of the Republic of South Africa for white people to
56:42
Speaker 2: buy land in the Transky and the Siski. The Africans,
56:46
Speaker 2: under a similar arrangement, occupy a space not much bigger
56:52
Speaker 2: than this enormous farm yard that I live on. But
56:55
Speaker 2: we're meant to take seriously the stupid, the deeply earnestly, profoundly,
57:03
Speaker 2: elementally stupid, the dumb assertions of journalists about Urania, or
57:11
Speaker 2: about COVID, or about a free forum, which is a
57:15
Speaker 2: certain organization in South Africa having too much money. News
57:20
Speaker 2: twenty four, unless I'm very much mistaken, is owned by Naspaus.
57:24
Speaker 2: Naspaus is owned by a little consortium of guys that
57:27
Speaker 2: put up much of the cash to found ten Cent,
57:31
Speaker 2: which is the biggest social media platform in China. Just
57:35
Speaker 2: that investment made them billionaires many times over. This poor
57:40
Speaker 2: girl born born or maybe she might be on statins.
57:44
Speaker 2: She might be taking Statn's German Jeremy, you know your
57:48
Speaker 2: brain has made up seventy five percent of myelin and
57:50
Speaker 2: myolin has made one hundred percent of cholesterol. So you
57:54
Speaker 2: have to have a very cholesterol rich diet to keep
57:58
Speaker 2: your brain intact. And if you take if you take
58:00
Speaker 2: cholesterol drugs, by definition, you rip your brain apart. By definition,
58:05
Speaker 2: it's not like an implied thing. It is the first
58:09
Speaker 2: thing that it does. It breaks claw marks through your
58:17
Speaker 2: brain as it pulls the cholesterol. That it does its job,
58:21
Speaker 2: it gets sort of the cholesterol. So it requires profound.
58:27
Speaker 5: Earnest convicted willful stupidity to take cholesterol drugs, as it
58:36
Speaker 5: takes profound stupidity.
58:39
Speaker 2: By this journalist Bianco von Vaig, whose fellows at News
58:45
Speaker 2: twenty four, it's some enormous figure like fifty percent of
58:48
Speaker 2: the staff, of thirty percent of God. Maybe you know
58:50
Speaker 2: the figure interrupt me. We're just laid off. It was
58:53
Speaker 2: an act of graciousness by the Holy Lord to get
58:57
Speaker 2: rest these people. But surely should be in the spirit
59:01
Speaker 2: of her questioning AFRI Forum being a successful organization, surely
59:08
Speaker 2: she should be saying, I want to see the books
59:13
Speaker 2: of of News.
59:14
Speaker 5: Twenty four that is owned by a consortium of billionaires
59:18
Speaker 5: before I allow my piers to be laid off.
59:22
Speaker 2: It's profoundly stupid, and I am expected to deal with
59:30
Speaker 2: this stuff, which is why when I came on the show,
59:34
Speaker 2: I told you I had just had about as much
59:37
Speaker 2: as one man could take.
59:40
Speaker 1: Well, simon, speaking of ownership, just quickly, you alluded earlier
59:44
Speaker 1: to the mines. Remember when the when the Boor's tracked
59:49
Speaker 1: from the Cape colony into the interior and they discovered
59:53
Speaker 1: gold and diamonds, et cetera. Just as a matter of trivia,
59:59
Speaker 1: because you're talking about who the owners were from the
1:00:05
Speaker 1: eighteen seventies to nineteen twenties, the I big, your pardon,
1:00:11
Speaker 1: I've got the wrong table in front of me. Let
1:00:13
Speaker 1: me find the table. I've got it. Yeah, where is it?
1:00:15
Speaker 2: No?
1:00:16
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, sorry, I had the wrong table there. Yes,
1:00:19
Speaker 1: there we go.
1:00:20
Speaker 2: Okay.
1:00:20
Speaker 1: So we had Cecil John Rhodes was British and he
1:00:24
Speaker 1: used the founder of the Beers, right, that's one of
1:00:28
Speaker 1: the largest, one of our largest mines. We had Barney
1:00:32
Speaker 1: Bonato British but Jewish, a diamond and gold magnet rival
1:00:39
Speaker 1: to Cecil Rhodes, so he found diamonds in Kimberly. We
1:00:45
Speaker 1: had Alfred Bite or Bait. I don't know to pronounce
1:00:47
Speaker 1: his surname Jewish. He was a silent partner and key
1:00:53
Speaker 1: financier to Rhads and the Biers. We had Julius van Her,
1:01:02
Speaker 1: I think that's how I pronounced it.
1:01:03
Speaker 2: German.
1:01:04
Speaker 1: He was not Jewish but Jewish, but German, a diamond
1:01:09
Speaker 1: gold magnet co founder. He co founded van Her, Bait
1:01:14
Speaker 1: and Co. I don't know where that mine actually is.
1:01:16
Speaker 2: You might.
1:01:17
Speaker 1: And then we had Oppenheimer. Oh, I think everybody knows
1:01:22
Speaker 1: Jewish German founded Anglo American nineteen seventeen, took over to
1:01:26
Speaker 1: Beers nineteen twenty nine, and Anglo American is one of
1:01:30
Speaker 1: the largest owners in South Africa. I don't know if
1:01:34
Speaker 1: you know this, but in nineteen ninety four, when South
1:01:36
Speaker 1: Africa became quote unquoted democracy, over fifty percent of our
1:01:42
Speaker 1: entire private sector was controlled by Anglo American.
1:01:49
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, but I'm not going to forget
1:01:51
Speaker 2: it in a hurry.
1:01:56
Speaker 1: So those were the foreign interests in our mining operations
1:02:01
Speaker 1: which the boys discovered. I think you could probably argue
1:02:04
Speaker 1: that the British also, But I mean it was the
1:02:08
Speaker 1: boys who tracked into the interior to get away from
1:02:10
Speaker 1: the British, and then the British followed them.
1:02:13
Speaker 2: Jeremy, if you unfortunately, I don't think I would find it.
1:02:17
Speaker 2: I can look for it. But if you ever get
1:02:20
Speaker 2: you know something. You and I consume a lot of material.
1:02:25
Speaker 2: We can't consume everything that everybody wishes that we would.
1:02:30
Speaker 2: But if you ever get to hear Stephen Mitford Goodson's
1:02:36
Speaker 2: lecture on the Treaty of Breda, listen to it. Don't
1:02:46
Speaker 2: say I don't have time for this. Listen, Jeremy. It
1:02:50
Speaker 2: will open your eyes about what a concerted orchestrated, premeditated,
1:03:02
Speaker 2: talmudic ritual the story of South Africa is. It is
1:03:09
Speaker 2: as a matter of interest to you. I don't know
1:03:11
Speaker 2: if you know this, but you know that they found
1:03:14
Speaker 2: they discovered the true identity. This is a true story. Now,
1:03:17
Speaker 2: just for anybody who thinks I might be playing, they
1:03:20
Speaker 2: have discovered the identity of Jack the Ripper. Did you
1:03:23
Speaker 2: know that just a few years ago? Look this up, Jeremy.
1:03:29
Speaker 2: It will make your hair stand on end. For years,
1:03:33
Speaker 2: every time, for decades, every time the subject came up.
1:03:37
Speaker 2: I heard this, I was witnessed to it. Somebody would
1:03:40
Speaker 2: say those women were killed in Talmudic rituals, and then
1:03:44
Speaker 2: you'd have the chief Rabbi of London come along and say,
1:03:47
Speaker 2: oh no, what a slur the Anti said. Every time,
1:03:51
Speaker 2: it turns out it was Talmudik. They were slaughtered as
1:03:56
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein slaughtered the children to summon demonic energies from
1:04:02
Speaker 2: ball Lucifer Moloch. You know, Satan. You choose your favorite
1:04:07
Speaker 2: way of looking at the facets of the diamond as
1:04:11
Speaker 2: it were. And I have a private theory that they
1:04:17
Speaker 2: were slaughtered for. They were definitely slaughtered for a group
1:04:21
Speaker 2: of Tumudis. You can read about it. They were slaughtered
1:04:26
Speaker 2: for certain demonic energies that were then directed towards the
1:04:30
Speaker 2: poorer war. But that's a private theory that The last
1:04:34
Speaker 2: portion of what I've just told you is just my
1:04:35
Speaker 2: own trying to join dots. But the rest is very viable.
1:04:39
Speaker 2: You can look it up. That story was solved and
1:04:44
Speaker 2: nobody spoke about it again. Not a single television vision
1:04:50
Speaker 2: series in Britain. They used to do about two a decade.
1:04:53
Speaker 2: Literally every five years they would do a new series
1:04:55
Speaker 2: on Jack the Ripper in Britain and obsessed Britain throughout
1:04:59
Speaker 2: the entire ag of television, and previous to that, throughout
1:05:02
Speaker 2: the entire age of the of the wireless, of the
1:05:04
Speaker 2: of the radio. Now not a word stoom stoom, stoom. God,
1:05:15
Speaker 2: people wonder why I get into these into these these things,
1:05:18
Speaker 2: you know, where I lose control of myself. It's not
1:05:21
Speaker 2: because I don't have self control. I have the most
1:05:25
Speaker 2: self control of everybody. If you were subject to the
1:05:30
Speaker 2: same intellectual torments that I'm subject to, you not you,
1:05:35
Speaker 2: Jeremy Nell. I know you very well, not very well
1:05:40
Speaker 2: as a as a housemate, but as somebody who I've
1:05:43
Speaker 2: talked to about very important subjects, both family and otherwise
1:05:50
Speaker 2: over years and years. The intellectual torment that I go through.
1:05:56
Speaker 2: But if it was anybody else that would be in
1:05:58
Speaker 2: a psychiatric ward. By now, the fact that I've come
1:06:02
Speaker 2: this far without losing my marbles, no people should be.
1:06:09
Speaker 2: They should admire my discipline, my ability. Imagine sitting with
1:06:13
Speaker 2: the knowledge that it was. And I don't know anybody
1:06:16
Speaker 2: else who knows this, Not one person in the world,
1:06:19
Speaker 2: not as far as I know, who has to try
1:06:22
Speaker 2: and reconcile the murder of women and children in the
1:06:29
Speaker 2: Boer War to Talmudic rituals, blood rituals performed on a
1:06:37
Speaker 2: street in or in a in a region portion of
1:06:43
Speaker 2: London adjacent a certain Talmudic temple. And it is a
1:06:51
Speaker 2: Talmudic temple. It just is, simply is. It's not arguable.
1:06:55
Speaker 2: It is of an improbable sort, by the way, just
1:07:00
Speaker 2: in case people are leaping to conclusions that are erroneous,
1:07:04
Speaker 2: of a very improbable sort. But yeah, it's gut wrenching,
1:07:09
Speaker 2: it's heartbreaking, it's it's tormenting. If you can get a
1:07:14
Speaker 2: copy of Stephen Mitford Goodson's a lecture on the Treaty
1:07:19
Speaker 2: of Breda Jeremy, the Story of South Africa is the
1:07:31
Speaker 2: story of Satan himself.
1:07:33
Speaker 3: Of.
1:07:35
Speaker 2: A project of the devil to rest South Africa away
1:07:43
Speaker 2: from the Africana Bouefalk. And nobody knows, nobody that I know.
1:07:46
Speaker 2: I've never met anybody who who knows anything about it.
1:07:51
Speaker 2: And Stephen Mitford Goodson knew a lot about it, but
1:07:54
Speaker 2: he was murdered and but I don't think I think
1:08:01
Speaker 2: he knew one half of the story. So I've been
1:08:03
Speaker 2: in the privileged position of being able to get his
1:08:06
Speaker 2: half and put it together with another half. I don't
1:08:08
Speaker 2: say I know everything that there is to know in
1:08:10
Speaker 2: the world. I just say I just don't know of
1:08:12
Speaker 2: anybody who who understands the thread of this story. And
1:08:16
Speaker 2: you can talk about where the battle of Corfitzen in
1:08:20
Speaker 2: the Battle of Fachlar, and how the you know, the
1:08:26
Speaker 2: numbers involved in the British effort and the I know
1:08:29
Speaker 2: some people know some stuff. There's a great guy called
1:08:31
Speaker 2: Lucas Lucas, Lucas Lucas. He's a Lucas swart of Swartberg.
1:08:36
Speaker 2: It's his company. Nice man. He can talk about some
1:08:40
Speaker 2: of the numbers, but you know, I don't. It's very
1:08:43
Speaker 2: sad that people don't know that the Satanic project that
1:08:47
Speaker 2: was carried out in this country going back two hundred
1:08:52
Speaker 2: and odd years, you know, from the late seventeen late
1:08:55
Speaker 2: seventeen hundreds, and it's going to become a project now,
1:09:00
Speaker 2: you know. I was thinking to myself earlier that you
1:09:02
Speaker 2: and I are condescending to subjects that we shouldn't. They
1:09:06
Speaker 2: are beneath us. We're forced to hold conversations about about
1:09:13
Speaker 2: dumb stuff, and we should be you know, have the
1:09:16
Speaker 2: freedom to speak about more more important things. And I
1:09:19
Speaker 2: was thinking to myself, We've got this confluence coming now
1:09:23
Speaker 2: of the diesel shortages and the fertilizer and the marginal
1:09:28
Speaker 2: agricultural lands across the whole world that haven't been planted,
1:09:33
Speaker 2: and especially in the USA, and the big trouble coming
1:09:37
Speaker 2: to South Africa because of the sixteen you know, the
1:09:41
Speaker 2: sixty the fifty one percent of the cereals and grains
1:09:43
Speaker 2: that are consumed in the Southern African the sixteen countries
1:09:46
Speaker 2: of the Southern African Development Community, over fifty percent come
1:09:50
Speaker 2: from South Africa. And we should be talking about that,
1:09:52
Speaker 2: and about the Carrington event, the forthcoming one, it's imminent,
1:09:56
Speaker 2: and about the weakening of the Earth's magnetic force that
1:10:01
Speaker 2: is so dramatic that the European Space Agency refuse to
1:10:05
Speaker 2: answer questions about why they don't publish the results anymore,
1:10:10
Speaker 2: and the implications of that and the shifting of the pole,
1:10:13
Speaker 2: this this phenomenal shift that's just going. But we're forced
1:10:18
Speaker 2: to talk about these stupid arguments about Ornya and a
1:10:26
Speaker 2: free forum made people taking status, people who were born
1:10:32
Speaker 2: very very profoundly stupid, or have destroyed their brains through
1:10:38
Speaker 2: cholesterol drugs, who knows, but in any case, very very
1:10:41
Speaker 2: deeply stupid.
1:10:44
Speaker 1: All right, Simon, as always, how can I follow you?
1:10:51
Speaker 2: Uh? People can go to SAT London's dot org. Sorry,
1:10:56
Speaker 2: I was just laughing because I don't really need anybody
1:10:59
Speaker 2: to allowed me. They should follow sat Lunders. They can
1:11:03
Speaker 2: go to Londons dot org and make a donation.
1:11:07
Speaker 1: If you know, at least you know what it means.
1:11:11
Speaker 1: I interviewed, so I'll literally continue a moment. Last week
1:11:14
Speaker 1: I interviewed it doesn't matter, but I interviewed a gentleman
1:11:19
Speaker 1: who's who's who's on in years? And when I said
1:11:24
Speaker 1: a little bit of a blood? And when I asked
1:11:26
Speaker 1: him at the end, how can I follow? You said, Look,
1:11:28
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what you mean by that question,
1:11:30
Speaker 1: but if people want to email me.
1:11:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dangerous. I know about wacky people and email.
1:11:43
Speaker 2: You don't give out your email address and your.
1:11:45
Speaker 1: Telephone, but at least you know, at least you know
1:11:47
Speaker 1: what it means when I say, how can I follow you?
1:11:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, email address? That will be rude by the cases
1:11:59
Speaker 2: that contact you once they've got your telephone number and email.
1:12:01
Speaker 1: Adrees inut you sorry, ww what what you just type?
1:12:10
Speaker 2: In st Lunders dot or go to our website make
1:12:12
Speaker 2: a donation, or if you really want to listen to
1:12:15
Speaker 2: me talk and generally talk professionally and look smart but
1:12:20
Speaker 2: sometimes lose my temper. You can find me on there's
1:12:24
Speaker 2: a State Landers channel. Just type in Stlanders Simon Ross
1:12:27
Speaker 2: because we've got two channels. R O c H E
1:12:31
Speaker 2: is how you spell my surname. You can. I'm on
1:12:36
Speaker 2: World Broadcasting Network once a month. I'll just be once
1:12:39
Speaker 2: a month now for an hour, and it is one
1:12:42
Speaker 2: of the top four radio format streamed shows live that
1:12:47
Speaker 2: goes out live in the whole world on the talk
1:12:51
Speaker 2: stream ratings. So there there. I have a lot more
1:12:54
Speaker 2: attitude on our rent and Raven perform like a lunatic
1:12:58
Speaker 2: as I should be doing. We should be screaming from
1:13:00
Speaker 2: the rafters about the madness that is prevalent at the moment.
1:13:09
Speaker 2: I hope you get me on Jeremy. I've never this
1:13:12
Speaker 2: is the first time in ten years that I've requested
1:13:15
Speaker 2: an interview from any of the two hundred interviews. It's
1:13:19
Speaker 2: always been people coming to me, oh two, much more
1:13:22
Speaker 2: than two hundred now, if I think about it, maybe
1:13:27
Speaker 2: over one thousand. But for the first time, I'm asking
1:13:31
Speaker 2: somebody to ask me about the confluence of factors that
1:13:35
Speaker 2: is building in the world between fertilizer oil, el Nino
1:13:39
Speaker 2: pole shift, and weakening of the Earth's magnetic force, because
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Speaker 2: there's not, as far as I know, any one person
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Speaker 2: in the world who is bringing those six or seven
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Speaker 2: factors together to forecast the true extent of the crisis
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Speaker 2: that is coming in six to nine months time.
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Speaker 1: All right, I will accept your challenge. We'll chat offline,
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Speaker 1: but for now, Smon Rash, thank you for joining me
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Speaker 1: in the trenches.
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Speaker 2: It's my pleasure. It's always my great pleasure to be
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Speaker 2: on your show. Jim