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10-20: Wildest 'October Surprise'? Mom Campaigns Against Daughter In OH Governor Attack Ad · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: You know that term, October surprise, here during, especially in
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  Speaker 1: political season, obviously all the politicians will have some sort
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  Speaker 1: of a thing attacking their candidate or some sort of
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  Speaker 1: breaking news story. They've all done it. They all do
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  Speaker 1: it all the time. And I know, let me preface
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  Speaker 1: this by saying it was yesterday on the live stream
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  Speaker 1: and then the replay I said I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about politics tomorrow. We're going to get out of this.
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  Speaker 1: But I think you're going to understand why we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about it today. I couldn't. I had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things to talk about today, but this one I cannot
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  Speaker 1: get off my mind. Is this the wildest October surprise
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  Speaker 1: of all time? I'll give you the gist of what
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  Speaker 1: it is, and then we'll actually play this thing start
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  Speaker 1: to finish, and we'll take it in steps and do
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  Speaker 1: a play-by-play to break it all down. An Ohio mother
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  Speaker 1: is campaigning against her daughter in the Ohio governor's race,
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  Speaker 1: the gubernatorial race, hotly contested out there. It's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: She's in an attack ad as the Democrat candidate's mother
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  Speaker 1: Telling the people of Ohio not to vote for her daughter.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this in my life. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's going to send, as bad as politics
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  Speaker 1: have been, you know, for us normal people, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to send them right down the gutter after this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think, I actually, as I talk about
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  Speaker 1: this more, I'm not even sure this is a political topic.
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  Speaker 1: Honest to God, I think it's beyond that. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a cultural, societal kind of thing. Because there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people asking the question this morning, because this
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  Speaker 1: came out overnight. Could you? Would you? I know I don't. Well,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, I would hope my kids don't go
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  Speaker 1: into politics and that cesspool, you know, unless they actually
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  Speaker 1: could make a positive change. But I just couldn't. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't go and attack it, telling them, telling the people
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  Speaker 1: of my state not to vote for my daughter. I
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  Speaker 1: would just I would just decline all interviews at that
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  Speaker 1: point if I didn't want her to be the governor.
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  Speaker 1: But this is, you're going to hear the story here
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  Speaker 1: of Donna Arthur. I'm sorry to laugh. This is a
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  Speaker 1: tragic thing. It's very sad. But it's like, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this. And it's asking a
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  Speaker 1: lot of questions. It's the wildest one ever. And it's
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  Speaker 1: the gubernatorial race between her daughter, Amy Acton, against a
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  Speaker 1: familiar name, Vivek Ramaswamy. He's a member of Vivek. He
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  Speaker 1: was running for president. He was, you know, a campaign
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  Speaker 1: surrogate guy for Trump after that, after he dropped out
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  Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. So we're going to Ohio
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  Speaker 1: next with a mother campaigning against her daughter in an
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  Speaker 1: attack ad. It actually happened. All right, we'll get to it.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, get your coffee ready for this one.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for finding me and Wicked Radio, the live stream
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  Speaker 1: and replay on X and YouTube and Facebook. Audio podcast
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  Speaker 1: always there for you. Shortly after the live stream, I
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  Speaker 1: upload that Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. Eastern time, which
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  Speaker 1: is when we're on live. All right, let's get right
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  Speaker 1: to it again. Amy Acton, where are we in this
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  Speaker 1: race in Ohio? Not that familiar with it either. I
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  Speaker 1: know it's a big one. I know some of you
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  Speaker 1: are in Ohio. I've heard from you. So you're familiar
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  Speaker 1: more than we are. Amy Acton, the Democrat, running against
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  Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy. Close race, apparently. I had to look it
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  Speaker 1: up this morning. Who's winning? Went to my friend Grok.
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  Speaker 1: Who's winning this race so far? As things usually go,
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  Speaker 1: high interest in the race. There's been a lot of
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  Speaker 1: polls on this, obviously. The most accurate ones, if any
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  Speaker 1: polls are accurate, is saying that Amy Acton is leading
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  Speaker 1: A hotly contested race over Vivek. You can imagine how
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  Speaker 1: that goes. We're two weeks away from this election. This
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  Speaker 1: is all part of the midterms and all that other
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  Speaker 1: good stuff. Hotly contested. Ton of money spent. This is
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  Speaker 1: my second question to Grok. Who has spent more money
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  Speaker 1: in this campaign so far? Ramaswamy's campaign, apparently, because I
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  Speaker 1: guess he's facing an uphill battle. Okay. TAC ads have
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  Speaker 1: been going on back and forth, obviously. You know, poor
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  Speaker 1: blown Ohio, like every other state. It's all they're being
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  Speaker 1: bombarded with, and that's all they can see. They can't
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  Speaker 1: escape it. But this one is a little different. Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, we're going to take it play by play.
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  Speaker 1: Amy Acton's mom, Donna Arthur, is in this ad. It's
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  Speaker 1: a long one. She's telling you her daughter is a
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  Speaker 1: liar and you shouldn't vote for her. Piece by piece,
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  Speaker 1: here we go.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Donna Arthur, and I'm Amy Acton's mother. I worked
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  Speaker 2: at Children and Family Service Association, building one of the
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  Speaker 2: first two sexual abuse programs in America. I love my daughter,
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  Speaker 2: but when I saw her lying about her opponent, it's
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  Speaker 2: not easy for a mother to say this, but Amy
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  Speaker 2: has a serious problem. She is a liar. All right,
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  Speaker 2: hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you didn't? Now, this is in
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  Speaker 1: the news. Everybody is picking this up. The New York Times,
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  Speaker 1: CNN is showing this. Fox News, of course, is showing this.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you're sitting down, uh, last night,
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  Speaker 1: you're watching Monday night football or something. You're in Youngstown, Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: or any other Ohio town. You had no idea this
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  Speaker 1: was coming out and you're just, you're waiting for a
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  Speaker 1: game to resume. And you're like, uh, here's another political ad,
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  Speaker 1: but then you have it on the TV because you
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to change it. And you didn't know this
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  Speaker 1: was coming. And you see this mom telling you not
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  Speaker 1: to vote for her daughter because she has a serious
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  Speaker 1: problem and she's a liar. Now she gets into the
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  Speaker 1: past here. Here's what, uh, Donna Arthur goes into saying,
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  Speaker 1: and it's, it's gross stuff. It's tragic. It is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's acknowledge that. But still, have you ever seen or
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  Speaker 1: heard anything like this?
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  Speaker 2: Past. She says she grew up living in a tent.
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  Speaker 2: None of that is true. She's lied her entire life. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter needs help and she can't help you if
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  Speaker 2: she needs help.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Now this goes into the past and the tragic
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  Speaker 1: past that I had to look. up more about this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing to see what's going on here. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: the claims about the past. Completely above board, and I
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  Speaker 1: guess this is acknowledged and published fact, the mother we're
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  Speaker 1: seeing here in the ad, Donna Arthur, lost custody of Amy,
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  Speaker 1: the governor candidate daughter here, and I think it was
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  Speaker 1: 1978 was the year. So there's a family trouble here,
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  Speaker 1: there's domestic problems, there's, you know, just for what it is,
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  Speaker 1: objectively speaking. Objectively speaking, that's what it is. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: keep that up there. But it has happened before. This
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  Speaker 1: Amy Acton character, all throughout politics, has claimed she grew
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  Speaker 1: up in a tent. The mom says that's not true.
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  Speaker 1: Something's going on here.
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  Speaker 2: People can change, but first they have to tell the truth.
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  Speaker 2: And my daughter still isn't doing that. Don't vote for
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  Speaker 2: people who lie. Don't let her become your governor.
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  Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha! Okay, so here we have this.
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  Speaker 1: So now the next logical question is also this. And again,
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  Speaker 1: I go to my friend Grok because it's the most up-to-date.
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  Speaker 1: It's right there. It's a great ad. Or you can
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  Speaker 1: find it on ChatGPT. You could go to Google, anything
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  Speaker 1: like this. Okay, who paid for this particular ad at
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  Speaker 1: this point in time? Because it's such a bombshell. You
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  Speaker 1: got a mother telling an entire state not to vote
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  Speaker 1: for her daughter. Who paid for this? It is, according
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  Speaker 1: to all research... It is an ad paid for by
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  Speaker 1: the Vivek Ramaswamy campaign. That's not so much of a surprise, okay?
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  Speaker 1: But we have another relevant question. I think it's the
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  Speaker 1: most relevant question. Was Donna Arthur, the mom here, was
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  Speaker 1: she paid directly to make this campaign ad against her daughter? Like,
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  Speaker 1: did she get, like, a cash payment? Nobody can say
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  Speaker 1: that she is. So voluntarily felt so compelled to tell
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  Speaker 1: the people of her state not to vote for her daughter...
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  Speaker 1: She did it for free. It goes on. Here's the
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  Speaker 1: end of the ad.
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  Speaker 2: If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself.
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  Speaker 2: It will only get worse.
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  Speaker 1: Holy crap. I thought it was, I forgot about the
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  Speaker 1: end part. It will only get worse if you vote
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  Speaker 1: for my daughter is what she's saying. Yikes. Yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is new ground. Something that's tragic already. I mean, it's refreshing,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, in a sense, in that you have a
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  Speaker 1: family member telling what she obviously believes to be the truth.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think she's lying. You can't have somebody,
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  Speaker 1: a mother of all things, and maybe she's the one
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  Speaker 1: with mental problems. I have no idea. But you can't
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  Speaker 1: deny the fact that she believes what she's saying. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: you'd never put yourself out there, and you'd never create
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  Speaker 1: an ad saying this about your daughter that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be blasted everywhere. And apparently... People in Ohio, just regular
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  Speaker 1: people who actually have to suffer through these political ads
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  Speaker 1: there like we all do, they're saying this thing is
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  Speaker 1: like it's getting so much attention. Obviously, all the money
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  Speaker 1: is going to this ad. So it's like every commercial
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  Speaker 1: break on every network in the middle of this. It's
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  Speaker 1: all you can't avoid it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: If you knew they were going to be out that
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  Speaker 1: far as the mother, could you actually concoct a lie
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  Speaker 1: this big? I don't know if that's possible. It may. Now,
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  Speaker 1: there's difference here. It may not be true. But it's
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  Speaker 1: what she believes absolutely wholeheartedly, 100%. And apparently she said
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  Speaker 1: this before in the past, even before this gubernatorial race.
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  Speaker 1: Amy Acton has made these claims before, whatever her past
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  Speaker 1: life was, that she grew up in a tent and
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  Speaker 1: all these other things. The mother has said in interviews
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  Speaker 1: before this political ad was made, I guess that's how
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  Speaker 1: they found her, none of that's true. She's a liar.
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  Speaker 1: So there's consistency there. Now, here's the thing to make clear.
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  Speaker 1: A sad situation, an unbelievable situation, even worse. I actually
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  Speaker 1: think it happened. As gross as politics are, I think
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  Speaker 1: we've hit new ground. Some people are loving this because
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  Speaker 1: it's refreshing. You know, if you happen to really dislike
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  Speaker 1: this Amy Acton character, you're loving this even more. And
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  Speaker 1: you're hoping that this turns the tide. Unfortunately, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think it would happen. I think this is going to
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  Speaker 1: start a trend because everybody's got a family member that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like him. Good God, look at the Kennedys. They're
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  Speaker 1: always fighting back and forth. Almost 95% of the Kennedys
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  Speaker 1: hate Bobby Kennedy Jr. for working in the Trump administration.
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  Speaker 1: They just can't stand him.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: If that happens in their family, I'm sure it happens
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  Speaker 1: in your family. I'm sure it's going to discourage other
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  Speaker 1: people from running for any kind of a political position
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  Speaker 1: because their family members are going to come out. We're probably, guys,
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  Speaker 1: honestly going to see more campaign ads like this going
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  Speaker 1: forward in the future, probably. No, we've seen it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: In smaller cases like this, we've seen family members come
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  Speaker 1: out and attack their members, but they're part of a
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  Speaker 1: different party. They're really not even part of a family.
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  Speaker 1: This is a mother telling the state of Ohio not
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  Speaker 1: to vote for her daughter. This is like a new
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  Speaker 1: high in low. And it's probably, you know how politics
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  Speaker 1: goes and the grossness of it. It's probably not going
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  Speaker 1: to stop here. You're probably going to see more of this,
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  Speaker 1: most likely. All right. Strategic question. Could this backfire? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I could see this backfiring tremendously. First of all, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think there's a response. I looked for it today,
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  Speaker 1: this morning. This is all fresh. I looked for a
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  Speaker 1: response from this Amy Acton campaign. This is a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: This is for the governor's race in Ohio. No official
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  Speaker 1: response on this whole thing yet, but I'm sure they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have some kind of a response denying this,
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  Speaker 1: attacking the mother herself, going back and forth, whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: that's going to happen. Is there a chance this could
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  Speaker 1: backfire against the Ramaswamy campaign?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. Because I'm sure... The good people of Ohio
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  Speaker 1: may look at this and say, oh, you put the
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  Speaker 1: mother on camera to attack the daughter. No, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: voting for you. Or I'm going to stay home. I
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  Speaker 1: could see that happening, too. Or it goes the other way.
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  Speaker 1: And you have the people out there saying, if this mother,
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  Speaker 1: right or wrong, knows that much about her daughter running
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  Speaker 1: for governor, she's got to know something. I can't vote
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  Speaker 1: for her. Could go that way. But this is the
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  Speaker 1: more interesting question. And this is what started to pop
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  Speaker 1: up on social media. Here's the real topic. Could you? God,
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  Speaker 1: this is terrible. Could you or would you ever do
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  Speaker 1: a campaign ad, an October surprise, a bombshell attack ad
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  Speaker 1: against your own child? This is just, that's an awful thought.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. And I hope it doesn't ever come
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  Speaker 1: to that. First of all, I hope, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't want my kids in politics in that swamp. Make
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  Speaker 1: a difference for society and life in the world in
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  Speaker 1: different areas. You know, do something as a have, not
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  Speaker 1: a have not. But my God, it's got people asking
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  Speaker 1: this question this morning. Could you ever, could you ever
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  Speaker 1: Do this. Appear in an attack ad against your own daughter.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not Arthur, and I'm Amy Acton's mother. I worked
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  Speaker 2: at Children and Family Service Association, building one of the
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  Speaker 2: first two sexual abuse programs in America. I love my daughter,
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  Speaker 2: but when I saw her lying about her opponent, it's
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  Speaker 2: not easy for a mother to say this, but Amy
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  Speaker 2: has a serious problem.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? I just can't. If I was in
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  Speaker 1: that position as a parent, if one of my daughters
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  Speaker 1: was running for some sort of office, God forbid, I
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  Speaker 1: would just, like, deny all interview. I'd go into hiding,
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  Speaker 1: I think. I'd support her behind the scenes. But unbelievable. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there you go. We're in politics now, baby. There you go.
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  Speaker 1: You got mothers campaigning against daughters. Now there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be some sort of an attack ad, obviously, from the
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  Speaker 1: daughter against the mother. American politics in the year 2026.
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  Speaker 1: You try to get away from it. I mean, we're
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  Speaker 1: two weeks away from the midterms. It's kind of hard
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  Speaker 1: to avoid this topic-wise. I understand that. I tried. I
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  Speaker 1: tried to get out of it. I did not want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about politics, but something like this comes down
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  Speaker 1: the pike. It's tough to avoid. So look at it
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  Speaker 1: not as a political issue. This is more like a
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  Speaker 1: societal issue. Are we circling the drain? If you've got
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  Speaker 1: a daughter and a mother fighting in political ads against
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  Speaker 1: each other, I don't know. Do keep it in mind, though,
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  Speaker 1: that was at this You know, the background of the
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  Speaker 1: story will come up more and more. She did lose
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  Speaker 1: custody of her daughter in like 1978. I already talked
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  Speaker 1: about that. So there's problems. There's problems there already. But
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  Speaker 1: the mother has said, Amy has problems. She's a liar. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Something to watch either way. I don't know. I never thought.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of crap. So have you. But
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  Speaker 1: have you ever seen anything like this? Unbelievable. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: the best description of it is it's a new high
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  Speaker 1: in low. Anyway, thanks for finding me. I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll try. I'm going to try tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: not to talk about anything related, any possible way to politics.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't dictate what's in the news cycle. And
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  Speaker 1: something this unbelievable comes along, I'm probably going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. Anyway, almost into midweek. Make it a wicked
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