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- 0:00You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.
- 0:10If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.
- 0:16So it's all acting like safe haven.
- 0:18I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their
- 0:23currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.
- 0:28I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin.
- 0:31If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.
- 0:36Dr. Anas El-Haji, welcome back to the show.
- 0:39Thank you. Thank you. It's always a pleasure.
- 0:42It's been a while since you were last on, and you haven't been on since the war in Iran started.
- 0:49And I was rereading through the notes of our last recording,
- 0:54and it was when the saber rattling around Iran was really beginning to heat up.
- 0:57And last time we spoke, he called Iran's nuclear standoff, the never ending crisis and said sanctions cannot take Iran's exports anywhere close to zero.
- 1:05We're not looking at a conflict that appears to escape the narrow Iran-Israeli frame spread into arteries of the global energy trade.
- 1:14But before we go into price, just give us the map.
- 1:17It's obviously been evolving, started between the U.S., Israel and Iran in recent weeks.
- 1:23It looks like the Houthis in Yemen have entered the fray in the Red Sea.
- 1:29There's been a memorandum of understanding, ceasefire on, off, on, off.
- 1:34Oil prices up above 100, down to the low 70s, high 60s back in the, I haven't checked today, but I imagine 80s or 90s.
- 1:44What is the map looking like today?
- 1:46Well, a couple of things before we look at the map, because there are some important issues that people must understand.
- 1:55That what we call the Iranian regime is not a unified regime.
- 2:00That there are people who want to negotiate.
- 2:03There are people who are sincere and they want to build a country and they want to build a nation.
- 2:08And there are the others who are after themselves.
- 2:11So there are elements of the IRGC, which is the Revolutionary Guard.
- 2:15who benefited greatly from the sanctions over the last three decades.
- 2:20And they literally make billions of dollars.
- 2:24And sanctions enable them to control the economy of Iraq
- 2:27and everything that comes in and out.
- 2:29So for them, a peaceful resolution basically will literally put them aside,
- 2:35and they don't want that.
- 2:36So for the last 10 years or so,
- 2:39they've been trying really hard to derail any negotiations.
- 2:42and when you see their reaction
- 2:46and you see the attacks,
- 2:48you can tell where the negotiations are going
- 2:50from the severity of their attacks,
- 2:53which means that the more severe the attack,
- 2:56that means the negotiations were doing very well
- 2:58and they want to derail them.
- 3:02And the issue right now is with those guys.
- 3:05But the bigger issue is,
- 3:06it just happened those guys
- 3:08who are now gaining control in Tehran
- 3:12They are the international arm of the regime, which means that they are connected to the Houthis,
- 3:18they are connected to Hejbollah, they are connected to the others in Iraq and other places,
- 3:25even to the drug cartels in South America and other places.
- 3:28Those guys do not care about the future of Iran or building a nation.
- 3:33Those guys behave like drug cartels, exactly like drug cartels.
- 3:37Look how the drug cartels, for 80 years right now, the United States has been fighting them.
- 3:41until now they were not able to conquer them.
- 3:44And they are awfully rich.
- 3:46They are well-trained.
- 3:47They have the most advanced kind of armors in the world.
- 3:51They have all kinds of weapons, and they fight.
- 3:55So those guys are behaving the same.
- 3:57So what is the problem?
- 3:58The problem is the U.S. is sending a regular army,
- 4:01a regular navy, trying to fight, in their thinking,
- 4:04a regular army and a regular navy,
- 4:06and that is not the case.
- 4:08You are sending a regular army to fight a guerrilla war or a militia, and that does not add up.
- 4:15That's one of the mistakes that's been done.
- 4:18The other mistake basically being done by the Trump administration is they fail to understand the motives because they thought, oh, well, those guys are after building Iran and the nation, and therefore we can do this and we can do this.
- 4:32No, they are not after that.
- 4:34They are literally after control and money.
- 4:37And if you go for a peaceful resolution, that means you wipe out all their income sources.
- 4:43And that does not fit.
- 4:44And that's what the Trump administration has to understand.
- 4:47So the Trump administration being after them in the recent attack for 14 days, they've been after those guys.
- 4:54Notice that they did not kill any of the negotiating team.
- 4:59They were after the extremists at the IRGC.
- 5:03and everything they done it seems they did not do much simply because those guys are mobile They keep moving And that why the whole structure of the world has to change to be able to make any advancement in the region
- 5:20At the same time, again, this part of the regime is the international arm of it.
- 5:27So they have people all around the world.
- 5:29And that is another problem.
- 5:32And that forces the U.S. government and others to think about another strategy on how to work the area.
- 5:40And so let's get into the state of the area, because obviously when the war started, there was bombing on both sides.
- 5:48And I think one of the biggest fears in the first month was the degradation of the refinery infrastructure, particularly in Qatar, with the natural gas refinery, water salination plants, potentially targets.
- 6:04You have a bunch of pipelines and other refineries across the region that were taking on heavy damage.
- 6:10And initial reports going to take years to build that capacity back.
- 6:16Now, again, like I said earlier, it looks like the Houthis are getting involved in the Red Sea, beginning to bomb Saudi tankers.
- 6:22So what is the state of, I guess, the supply chain of oil and gas look like right now as a sandstone?
- 6:27And obviously, the strait through which a lot of...
- 6:31Before we answer this question, people have to answer the following question.
- 6:39And this is kind of the answer to this will lead us to other questions.
- 6:42Do people believe that this war is about Iran and its nuclear program?
- 6:49Or is it part of a larger change that is happening around the world that includes trade wars, sanctions, tariffs, Venezuela, Panama Canal, China, Russia, Greenland?
- 7:06And is this part of the, of course, you add Ukraine and the European Union to this,
- 7:12Nord Stream 1, Nord Stream 2.
- 7:15So is this part of that big picture or is just limited to Iran and nuclear program?
- 7:21Once people understand that we have to make that distinction and then they get the answer,
- 7:27we can get other answers to the other questions.
- 7:31because the whole issue at the end, if this is part of this global change,
- 7:39then everything fits because the United States forced Russia out of Europe.
- 7:47As you know, Russian share in natural gas market declined from 55% to 14%.
- 7:55And U.S. share in natural gas market in the EU increased from zero to 30%.
- 8:01Now you look at Asia, Qatar is not able to export LNG to Asia.
- 8:09So what is the news two days ago?
- 8:12Qatar is going to import American LNG to export it to Asia instead of Qatar.
- 8:18So all of a sudden the U.S., well, again, when you start asking those questions, you start realizing things are not what the media is telling us and what people are telling us.
- 8:32So you go back and look at what happened to Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 and how they shut down the Ukrainian pipeline when the contract ended.
- 8:46And you look at how the U.S. LNG has become an integral part of U.S. foreign policy.
- 8:53And then you look at what happened in Egypt yesterday.
- 8:58In Egypt yesterday, we have an attack on LNG terminal, and then two regasification units, both of them are American, by the way, got hit.
- 9:10And the question is why and who did that?
- 9:13And the Egyptian government refused basically to say more than it is.
- 9:18There were two drones and that's it.
- 9:21and then the media
- 9:23start telling us
- 9:25oh it's 2,000 miles
- 9:272,000 kilometers from Iran
- 9:29and 1,400 kilometers
- 9:31from Yemen and they started kind of
- 9:33redirecting our attention
- 9:35into something that does not make any sense
- 9:37okay
- 9:39so Iran is sending
- 9:40a drone
- 9:422,000 kilometers
- 9:44and no one will know until they hit their targets
- 9:47they crossed
- 9:49several countries by the way
- 9:51several countries and no
- 9:54it tells you that whatever we are hearing from the media
- 9:58is just not the right story.
- 10:02I mean, I can't stop thinking about the
- 10:04I think one thing that many people, particularly the mainstream media
- 10:08aren't pulling into this is the national security strategy document that was written last year
- 10:13by the Trump administration.
- 10:16This is part of it, basically.
- 10:18I don want to kind of like sound like talking about conspiracy theory or anything else I really would like to move to the energy markets and talk about the economics of it But if you go back to the national security strategy that was released last November it focuses on energy dominance and AI dominance
- 10:42But you cannot have AI without energy.
- 10:45So everything boils down to energy dominance.
- 10:48and the only way you can have energy dominance is to have the resources.
- 10:53You don't have all the resources in the world,
- 10:56so you control the U.S.,
- 10:59then indirectly control Canada,
- 11:01and then directly or indirectly control Venezuela,
- 11:05and now you want to directly or indirectly control the energy sources
- 11:09in the other side of the world.
- 11:11Well, what's better than waterways?
- 11:14Look at what's happening in Iraq today.
- 11:16All of a sudden, the Russian company that was controlling one of the largest oil fields being kicked out.
- 11:25U.S. companies are taking over.
- 11:27Exxon, Mabo, and Chevron are returning to Iraq.
- 11:30Here's the problem.
- 11:31They already left Iraq.
- 11:34They are coming back to the same fields.
- 11:36They asked them, why did you leave?
- 11:37Because they said, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
- 11:41Okay, now you are back.
- 11:43But 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 is still there.
- 11:46Nothing changed. So what changed in your attitude until you want to go back to Iraq now?
- 11:52And you look at other things. There are more questions than what we even can ask questions, and let alone answers.
- 12:02I'm going to give you one.
- 12:04Last week, Lloyd of London informed shippers that if they pay Iran to pass Hermes Strait,
- 12:14they will cancel insurance
- 12:16I mean this is
- 12:18kind of like the FBI
- 12:20or the State Department
- 12:22or someone else will do that
- 12:24why they are doing the job of a
- 12:26foreign government
- 12:27why insurance company is threatening them
- 12:30because people were saying
- 12:32oh they cancelled the insurance in the Gulf
- 12:34on March 1st
- 12:36simply because risk is very high
- 12:38well if it is about risk
- 12:40paying Iran reduces risk
- 12:42so why you cancel the insurance then
- 12:46so this is one of them
- 12:49then you add other things to the equation
- 12:52which a lot of things do not make
- 12:54any sense out of this
- 12:57we heard about
- 13:00the releases of the SPR
- 13:03and we can discuss the issues of SPR
- 13:07and what the conspiracy about the SPR etc
- 13:10But you look at the SPR releases and you look at the impact.
- 13:18Supposedly, Trump wanted lower gasoline prices.
- 13:22But releasing oil from the SPR does not have any impact on gasoline prices,
- 13:29simply because our refineries are running at maximum.
- 13:34And if they are running at maximum, they cannot use more crude anyway.
- 13:37So it doesn't matter.
- 13:40I heard some commentary on this. I mean, somebody was comparing Trump's draw, the SPR to Biden's.
- 13:47And the commentary I saw is that he was making a trade, because if you look at where the oil price was when Trump was draining it, he was trying to sell it, sell it high to lock in, I guess, some profits or something like that.
- 13:59No, they cannot. This is OK. I have I've written a lot about this and I have a long video on this kind of a timeless video.
- 14:08Let me explain something about the SPR that is very important.
- 14:12The release of Biden. Probably will end up the highlight of Biden presidency in a very positive way.
- 14:21Because if you go back and look at everything we've been told, even by analysts, it's all wrong.
- 14:29Why is it all wrong?
- 14:31Because they told us oil prices will go to $250 because of the sanctions on Russia.
- 14:36And we were going to, I was on your show, basically, and I said this at that time.
- 14:40And they said, we are going to lose up to 5 million barrels.
- 14:44Remember that?
- 14:45Because of the sanctions.
- 14:47And I said, none.
- 14:49And what happened?
- 14:51We did not lose any Russian oil.
- 14:52Yet prices increased to $120, $130.
- 14:58And Biden released 211 million barrels, 180 from the SPR that's the Biden release, plus the Congress mandated releases.
- 15:09There were 211.
- 15:11So if we did not lose the Russian oil and that 211 million being swallowed by the market, how do you explain that?
- 15:19Everything the analysts told us about basically was completely off, completely wrong.
- 15:24So how does that compare to Trump's draw on the SPR?
- 15:28I will explain in a minute.
- 15:30But what happened is we were coming off the lockdowns and the demand was the increase in demand was massive So what happened in 2022 was a repeat of 2007 2008 where the demand outstripped supply
- 15:46regardless of what happened in Russia.
- 15:48We did not lose Russian oil.
- 15:49It was demand that was extremely strong.
- 15:54And therefore, the actions of Biden, and I'm being completely apolitical here.
- 15:59The actions of Biden basically at that time was one of the smartest moves of his presidency,
- 16:04because otherwise prices would have gone above $200 and then destroy the world economy, destroy the U.S. economy.
- 16:12Now, you come to the Trump administration release.
- 16:16On a daily basis, it is the largest release in history, so it's way higher than Biden.
- 16:23So in total, Biden release is larger, but it's been done over a long period of time.
- 16:29With Trump, it's smaller in total, but on a daily basis, it's larger.
- 16:34And it has tremendous impact on the market simply because the amount is very large.
- 16:40The confusion we've gotten basically was about products versus crude.
- 16:47And that is really one of the main problems we have today.
- 16:51Throughout this crisis, after the initial period, let's say, so we start in April instead of starting in March,
- 16:59The crisis in the energy market was in the products, not in crude.
- 17:04So we have serious problems in the product market.
- 17:08And for your audience, I used this analogy before, and I'm going to use it again here.
- 17:14I'm going to explain what happened in the diesel market, and you can apply it to any other market,
- 17:19but diesel because we still have diesel crisis until today, and that's why I want to explain it to people.
- 17:25So what happened in the initial period is after the insurance was canceled and ships were not able to leave, and then we started all those problems and the claims of blockades and the U.S. blockades, et cetera, we have three major refineries in the Gulf.
- 17:42One in Kuwait, one in the UAE, and one in Saudi Arabia.
- 17:46None of them was able to export anything.
- 17:49So we lost their products.
- 17:51And that created panic in the market.
- 17:53The problem is these are massive, some of the biggest refineries in the world, and we lost that.
- 18:01And the panic basically kind of took hold.
- 18:05As a result, governments around the world panicked, and they banned exports of petroleum products for fear of shortages.
- 18:14The method differed from country to country.
- 18:17So China, for example, it was outright ban.
- 18:21No export, period.
- 18:23And this is one of the reasons why it led to their decline in imports, by the way, because now they don't need to import to re-export.
- 18:32Anyway, India imposed taxes, heavy taxes, and South Korea put a minimum, said as long as you meet this minimum, you can export above that or maximum, whatever you want to call it.
- 18:49So we started losing diesel from around the world as a result.
- 18:55So we have the first effect.
- 18:57Then we have the secondary effect as a result.
- 18:59Here, diesel prices start going up.
- 19:02Again, this applies to other products too.
- 19:04This is just an example.
- 19:06If you are a trader and physically you own diesel or crude or gasoline or just fuel or anything else,
- 19:12and you know prices are going to go up next week,
- 19:15and the margin between this week and next week is way higher than the cost of storage.
- 19:22Will you store?
- 19:24Sure.
- 19:26So hoarding basically started.
- 19:28So that made the situation even worse because of this.
- 19:35So because of these situations now, we have people panicking because they want the diesel.
- 19:40So India was, and this is a true example, India was selling a shipment of diesel to South Africa.
- 19:50The shipment was around East Africa, around Tanzania, Madhashkar, and someone in Singapore bought it.
- 19:58Of course, they paid the higher price.
- 20:00So the ship got diverted.
- 20:02Now it's going to Singapore.
- 20:04Someone in China panicked.
- 20:06Now they bought the same shipment and redirected it from Singapore to China.
- 20:10On the way to China, a Japanese company panicked.
- 20:13Now they took it to Japan.
- 20:16But that shipment should have been delivered to South Africa a week ago.
- 20:20Now, two weeks later, it's still in the ocean.
- 20:23Now, take one ship and multiply it by hundreds, probably thousands.
- 20:27And you can see how the situation got exacerbated.
- 20:32As if this is not enough, we have Zelensky basically taking his time bombing the Russian refineries
- 20:39and bombing the ships and the outlets and all the stuff.
- 20:42And he literally turned Russia into an importing company.
- 20:50country instead of exporting. So in a sense, we did not only lose the gasoline out of Russia.
- 20:57Russia now is taking the gasoline out of the market out of India that's supposed to go to
- 21:01Singapore. So you put all of those together, you can see the impact. But what made the situation
- 21:10really scary right now is we have what I call right now the four seas crisis.
- 21:19Until last week, it was the three seas.
- 21:22Now, after the attack on Egypt, it's the four seas.
- 21:24So we have the Gulf, we have the Red Sea, we have the Black Sea, and we have the Mediterranean Sea.
- 21:30We have problems in all of them.
- 21:32And the question that needs to be answered is, now Kazakhstan exports stopped for the third time this month.
- 21:40why Ukraine is halting the exports of Kazakhstan.
- 21:47Seriously, why the Trump administration is not saying a single word?
- 21:50We lost 1.4 million barrels a day.
- 21:541.4 million.
- 21:56During crisis, when Babel Mendeb is semi-closed and Hormuz is semi-closed,
- 22:02and we lost 1.4 million, not a single senator, not a single congressman said anything.
- 22:07And everyone is complaining about gasoline prices and diesel prices.
- 22:10So what the situation is really kind of once you start looking at it in a different way, you try to kind of like ask questions, say, OK, what is really going on?
- 22:23Why Zelensky is doing this over and over and over?
- 22:27You look at the media and the big accounts on Twitter and other social media accounts, they've been fooling us all along.
- 22:35Whether intentionally or out of ignorance.
- 22:39So the Saudi refinery in Jazan was hit.
- 22:43There is no oil in Jazan, by the way.
- 22:45The whole area, the southwestern Saudi Arabia does not have any oil.
- 22:49All the oil, all the crude basically is far in the east.
- 22:52So this is the refinery.
- 22:54That's it.
- 22:55So we did not lose that much oil because the refinery was hit.
- 23:00That's mostly domestic, and there are some product exports out of it.
- 23:04And then two days later, the gig was hit, which is an essential part of Aramco in the eastern province.
- 23:12And they accused an Iraqi group that is part of the Iranian regime.
- 23:19And as a result, the U.S. and Saudi Arabia bombed them the following day.
- 23:24But the amount of oil lost from Saudi Arabia was very, very limited.
- 23:29And the reason why, because you cannot kill the horse twice.
- 23:33The Saudis cannot export from the east.
- 23:35They cannot export from the west.
- 23:36So whether their production goes up or down, it doesn't matter because they cannot export.
- 23:41During this time, we lost the 1.4 million barrels a day out of Kazakhstan.
- 23:46That was a real loss.
- 23:49But the media and social media accounts kept talking about Saudi Arabia,
- 23:53and they ignored Kazakhstan completely, where the real loss was.
- 23:58And the question is, why?
- 24:00Seriously, why?
- 24:01and those analysts basically why they are doing this.
- 24:04And during this period, of course,
- 24:06hundreds of videos were fake videos or old videos.
- 24:11So we have some big accounts basically,
- 24:14literally when Gig was bombed three days ago.
- 24:19I can guarantee you that some of those guys never heard of it before.
- 24:24And because of the use of AI,
- 24:27because some of those accounts depend heavily on AI in their postings,
- 24:31They went to AI and saved GIG, and the news is fresh.
- 24:37The AI has not collected the information yet.
- 24:40The only information exists from 2019 when GIG was hit, when we lost 5.5 million barrels a day.
- 24:46And those guys basically were too young at that time to even know it existed.
- 24:52So they literally pulled the 2019.
- 24:54They start posting it as if it happened today.
- 24:57with the pictures, with all the announcements, with everything.
- 25:01We lost 5.5 million barrels.
- 25:03That was from 2019.
- 25:07So we ended up with the four seas crisis with all this misinformation.
- 25:15And then we ended up with something I call the obsession crisis.
- 25:20And this is related to what you guys do on a daily basis, etc.
- 25:25Many of your followers basically do.
- 25:27We know that the first rule of investing is do not fall in love with your stock.
- 25:34Do not fall in love with whatever you are investing in.
- 25:38But obsession leads to that love.
- 25:43And we have people who get obsessed with the idea that all prices will go to $150.
- 25:47I'm talking about rent.
- 25:49And they went on and on and on and on and on.
- 25:53and it got so nasty
- 25:56that anyone will say no it not going to go to 150 became the enemy but it was the result of that obsession And that obsession led to literally taking the social media fake news
- 26:10and promoting it because it fits with the obsession of 150 or 120 oil.
- 26:17So in a sense, we got it from all sides.
- 26:19We have physical crisis on the ground and we have a mental crisis.
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- 28:44but sums up the whole situation. We are in deep trouble. Any way you look at it,
- 28:49We are in deep trouble.
- 28:51So if you look at the Saudi economy, the Saudi numbers being published yesterday, it was minus 4.5%.
- 28:57In the first quarter, it was plus 3%.
- 29:01This is a country that was one of the most promising countries in the world, and it tanked.
- 29:07And Saudi Arabia, relative to other oil-producing countries, fared very well because they tried to diversify their economy,
- 29:14and they have pipelines to divert from east to west.
- 29:18But other countries, if you look at Iraq, you look at Kuwait, you look at Qatar, they have no other choice.
- 29:22They got stuck.
- 29:24So even at minus 4.5%, the Saudi performance was way better than others.
- 29:30But now you take it worldwide, you got to think the following.
- 29:33Those countries, whether you're talking about Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, and Iraq, those are countries, they are heavy purchasers.
- 29:45They are heavy consumers.
- 29:46They are heavy importers.
- 29:48They are the ones who import all kinds of things, whether from wheat to plains.
- 29:54And they are the ones who are supposed to make those massive investments in the United States.
- 29:59And they are the ones who are expected to be the largest donors to the poorer countries in the world.
- 30:05All of that is gone.
- 30:07All of that is gone.
- 30:08The consumption is gone.
- 30:09The investment is gone.
- 30:10The aid is gone.
- 30:12So what do you expect is going to happen?
- 30:13The Q2 data, the second quarter data, is not out yet.
- 30:19Only we have very few countries that came out with the data.
- 30:24And even if we get out of the data, if you think, and this is a message to the audience,
- 30:30if you really think that the oil prices and the oil market is heavily manipulated by the government
- 30:35and by the Trump administration, if you really believe it,
- 30:39then you must believe that the economic data is manipulated too.
- 30:44It's just logical.
- 30:46Okay?
- 30:47I believe when it comes to the oil market that, yeah, there is some manipulation,
- 30:51but based on evidence for the last hundreds of years, basically,
- 30:56and there are many theories, there are books and articles on this,
- 31:00you can manipulate the market or cheat the market twice, three times, and that's it.
- 31:04And then the market figure it out, and then you lose that edge.
- 31:08And even OPEC basically realized this long ago That why they became very innovative in the way they make their announcements Because once they are discovered people will know what the game is
- 31:20So they became very innovative.
- 31:21And to think that the Trump administration is repeating the same thing again and again and again,
- 31:25and you are being fooled again and again and again, it is your problem, not Trump's problem.
- 31:30That tells you it's not.
- 31:32There is some manipulation in the market.
- 31:34That's absolutely correct.
- 31:36But we do have some structural issues.
- 31:38We have major decline in demand and we have demand destruction.
- 31:44Because one of the problems when we talk about that obsession that we talked about earlier, we still have today, until today, we have analysts, well-known names, who think that oil prices have not increased to mask the crisis.
- 32:01And that is absolutely not correct.
- 32:03Because if you look at prices in March,
- 32:08medium sour crude in Asia was sold above $170.
- 32:12That was the record.
- 32:13And we have some shipments being sold close to $200.
- 32:17And the damage came from there.
- 32:19You are living in the United States or Europe,
- 32:21probably you are not feeling it.
- 32:22But in Asia, they felt it.
- 32:24When China stopped importing 6 million barrels a day,
- 32:27they did because prices were $170.
- 32:29and even when they declined, they declined to $155
- 32:34and they stayed there for a while
- 32:35and people are still saying, well, WTI is $95 only
- 32:40that's absolutely correct
- 32:41but you are looking at the wrong marker
- 32:44you are looking at the wrong market
- 32:45they don't use WTI in Asia, WTI is for North America
- 32:50you want to look at the prices in Asia, you look at Dubai and Oman
- 32:53and that was one of the problems
- 32:56so what happened is, those countries basically
- 32:59and refiners reacted to those extreme
- 33:02prices. But that's not the only story.
- 33:07You look at what happened in Japan. The Japanese yen, as you know,
- 33:11collapsed. So oil prices in the end
- 33:15were the highest ever.
- 33:19And Japanese refiners are not going to buy that oil. There is no way they are going to buy
- 33:23at the highest price ever. That's why their inventories declined substantially
- 33:27because they would rather use their inventories than to pay the highest price ever.
- 33:33So I'm going to tell you, you've been in this market, you've been there for a while.
- 33:36How many times you heard about Japan basically having the highest prices ever?
- 33:42Quite a few, because they're heavily dependent on it, right?
- 33:45Sorry?
- 33:46They're heavily dependent on oil, right?
- 33:48No, no, I'm talking about Japan refiners paying the highest price ever.
- 33:52How many times you heard that?
- 33:54No, never.
- 33:55why but this is reality why the media why analysts are not talking about that
- 34:00so there are there is this obsession thing that oh we still need for prices to go up well if the
- 34:07damage already is already happening and it already happened because prices went up and japan basically
- 34:13was damaged you cannot kill the horse twice the horse already being killed you cannot kill it
- 34:21twice. That's it. It's not there. And if it's not there, then you cannot feed it. It's dead.
- 34:27So the demand destruction was so strong in Asia and parts of the world, like a higher price doesn't
- 34:33make sense because nobody's going to pay it. But even you look at the United States, look at the
- 34:37data that was released this morning. This morning, the decline in gasoline demand is almost 2.5%
- 34:45year over year and has nothing to do with EVs, by the way.
- 34:50It has nothing to do with EVs at all.
- 34:52And so how do you explain that?
- 34:54U.S. demand was going up.
- 34:56Now it's 2.5%.
- 34:58It was going up by 1.7%.
- 35:00So the difference is between 1.7 and 2.5.
- 35:03That difference is very large.
- 35:06So the damage is already happening even in the United States,
- 35:10but we still need more time to get the data.
- 35:13In other countries, you look at Pakistan,
- 35:14You look at Bangladesh, you look at Tanzania, Kenya, and South Africa, Egypt.
- 35:21Those countries are completely devastated.
- 35:24And it's not only oil.
- 35:25Let's remember that.
- 35:27This is my cheating sheet here.
- 35:32Okay.
- 35:32So, Hermos rate is not only about oil.
- 35:37It's about helium.
- 35:39And you cannot make any computer chip without helium.
- 35:42It is about fertilizers and we cannot find food without fertilizers.
- 35:47It is about methanol and you cannot make biofuel without methanol.
- 35:51There are many products we cannot make without methanol.
- 35:54It's about aluminum.
- 35:55Aluminum price is basically set at record high right now as a result of that.
- 36:00So it's not only about that.
- 36:01And once you start adding those together and you see the massive increase in prices and costs and everything else,
- 36:08it's not only about energy.
- 36:10It's about everything else.
- 36:12It was my mistake because I was supposed to buy two laptops.
- 36:18And I kept delaying it and now prices going up All the high end computers basically went up And I on the morning show that I speak on every single morning I told them that there was a time when an air conditioning unit need to
- 36:38be changed, but I can't wait. But the moment the crisis happened, immediately I decided to change
- 36:45it. And the cost is about $20,000, by the way, because I know if I wait, the cost will go up.
- 36:52The same unit that I paid $20,000 at the beginning, that's only five months ago, now is $26,000.
- 37:00And this is in the United States.
- 37:03So the problem and the crisis or what we've seen so far is only the tip of the iceberg.
- 37:12Yeah, well, I'm happy you brought that up, particularly fertilizer, because I had somebody in my DMs the other day.
- 37:20basically saying that they have a buddy that works at a fertilizer refinery in Louisiana and
- 37:28the workers there have gotten noticed that their hours are being reduced to 80%
- 37:34and he thinks it's basically like a extend and pretend before furloughs and
- 37:40layoffs come because they started importing fertilizer from Morocco because the input
- 37:48cost here and the refineries in the u.s went from something like 400 to 1700 or something like that
- 37:56in addition basically we have a new problem that we covered in the daily energy report today
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- 38:13and when we are talking about 15 billion dollar ai center the of course the energy consumption is
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- 41:10throughout the throughout the years you said uh you've been saying natural gas isn't a bridge to
- 41:16the future it is the future it seems absolutely absolutely but now it's getting like what i as you
- 41:22know i've been bullish on on lng etc but whatever we have right now is is way above the expectations
- 41:30And one of the problems is once the cost goes up, everyone gets hurt because for LNG, you have only limited margin.
- 41:39For the AI, the competition is so severe that if your cost, basically, you cannot manage your cost, you have a serious problem.
- 41:51And with AI, by the way, people are talking about solar and wind, etc.
- 41:54You cannot afford to lose power for one second, not even one second.
- 42:00So you need a reliable energy, and that's why they are moving toward nuclear and natural gas as a result of that.
- 42:08It's nice to have solar and wind next to you as redundancy basically becomes important.
- 42:14But you need those things.
- 42:15So if you look at all the data centers around the United States, all of them have backup.
- 42:21And the irony is all that backup is a diesel backup.
- 42:27So what does this mean?
- 42:28What are the next 30, 60, 90 days look like?
- 42:32what should we be hoping for in terms of any resolution?
- 42:38I really want people to read that paragraph, that long paragraph that I wrote,
- 42:44and it sounds gloomy and kind of very pessimistic view.
- 42:50And probably we have to go through that to get the better future that we are looking for.
- 42:56Otherwise, things the way they are in will drag on for a very long time,
- 43:01and this is not in the interest of anyone.
- 43:03Let's get it over with.
- 43:05Let's get the bad news and get it over with.
- 43:08And let's have that demand destruction and everything else until we move forward.
- 43:12Otherwise, it's going to be a very, very difficult situation.
- 43:17And something got to give.
- 43:20Things do not add up.
- 43:21So I'm going to give you another example on how things got to give.
- 43:24I don't know how much time we have left.
- 43:26You've played 20 minutes.
- 43:27As you know, the Saudis couldn't export their oil through Bab el-Mandeb on their own ships.
- 43:36So Saudi oil is going through Bab el-Mandeb, but on someone else's ships.
- 43:42And Saudis have one of the largest VLCC fleet in the world.
- 43:48And now the discussion is going toward, okay, how they are going to export it through the Swiss Canal.
- 43:54Here are the issues.
- 43:56If they want to export it through the Swiss Canal, the Swiss Canal cannot handle a fully loaded VLCC.
- 44:05So you've got to forget about that.
- 44:07They can send the ships that can take 700,000 barrels to a million 1.1.
- 44:14That can go through.
- 44:16But if you are talking about 2, 2.2, they cannot.
- 44:20Long time ago, they found a solution.
- 44:22The solution is, if you can imagine the map, you send the ships north in the Red Sea.
- 44:29You go to Egypt.
- 44:31Just before you reach the Swiss Canal, on the left, there are a couple of lakes there.
- 44:35On the left, there is a small town called Ayan al-Sukhna.
- 44:39Ayan al-Sukhna, they built a terminal there with storage facilities,
- 44:43and it's connected to the Mediterranean via a pipeline called Sumed.
- 44:48Sumed, that's the Waste Mediterranean Pipeline.
- 44:50And the pipeline, if you can imagine the map, it goes west, crosses the Nile, crosses Cairo, and then turn north and go to Alexandria.
- 45:01Next to Alexandria, there is a small town called Sidi Kray.
- 45:04They made the terminal there, and it has a storage facility of about 22 million boroughs.
- 45:10So those big ships basically would go historically.
- 45:13They used to go to Ayan Sakhna and load some.
- 45:16they will float and because of the shape of the ship now they can go through the Swiss Canal.
- 45:24But later on the Saudis basically kind of because of efficiency and better management everything else
- 45:29they learned I don't even have to send all of them at all. I can just unload everything in
- 45:34and send it via pipeline because the pipeline capacity is 2.5 million barrels a day and I can
- 45:41send it to the other side, ships can come from the other side and load.
- 45:45I don't have to go through the Swiss Canal and pay for it and all that stuff.
- 45:51So the question now is, can Saudi Arabia export 6 million barrels a day, which is the amount
- 45:56of export they had before, through this method, both Swiss Canal and Sumit pipeline, to compensate
- 46:05for the losses of Hermes and Babelmende?
- 46:08And the answer is, yes, they can.
- 46:11And you can work the math, you can work the capacities, everything else.
- 46:16They literally can.
- 46:17That's the easy part.
- 46:20The problem is now ships, instead of going from Bab al-Mandeep directly to Asia,
- 46:25now they have to go from the Mediterranean all the way around Africa to go to Asia.
- 46:32Once you start playing the math, there will be a time when the Saudis wanted ships,
- 46:38but there are none because all of them in the ocean.
- 46:42Those are going to deliver and those who are returning.
- 46:46And therefore they have to stop exports and they have to stop production That the problem right now with the supposedly the new system if we are going to go with that new system So we do have a serious problem
- 47:00But with the hit to Egypt the day before yesterday for the LNG terminal and the two
- 47:08regasification terminals, this is very serious because the question is, whoever did that,
- 47:14did they really mean to head the LNG?
- 47:19Or that was a message about the Swiss Canal?
- 47:21Because that unit on the Mediterranean is very close to the Swiss Canal.
- 47:26Very close.
- 47:28So was that a message, look, we can close the Swiss Canal too?
- 47:32Or that was the LNG literally was intended?
- 47:36And of course, there are several suspicious leaderships in countries you can put there.
- 47:42But the issue here is, even if all the stars line up for the Saudis and the rest of the world, aside from the risk, we will reach a point where we have more oil and water and we don't have enough ships.
- 47:59And what is the problem?
- 48:01The problem is a large number of the ships that could be available are sanctioned because they carried in the past or they're still carrying the Iranian oil and the Russian oil.
- 48:15So in a sense, you look at all of this, it's kind of like almost a self-made crisis once you start expanding and looking at the details of it.
- 48:25The final issue here is when we talk about those sanctions,
- 48:31we got to remember that in the short run, China was prepared.
- 48:36And China built those massive inventories of almost everything.
- 48:41So China was doing very well throughout this period.
- 48:44The only way to hurt China is to drag whatever we are in right now until,
- 48:52let's say, a year from now.
- 48:54That's when you start hurting China.
- 48:56But by that time, the whole world would collapse.
- 49:00And probably the U.S. economy would collapse even before that happened.
- 49:04So there is a serious problem there that it's not only Hermos, it's not only Bab el-Mandeb,
- 49:09it's really this trade war and the issues with China and everything else that we got to look at.
- 49:17And when Trump visited China, the Chinese tried to be nice,
- 49:22So they imported LNG from the United States to please Trump.
- 49:26What they've done last week, the same shipment that arrived in China, they resold it at a higher price.
- 49:34Now, China's talking about trade routes to Europe, to the Arctic, too, as well, which gets to the question, how does all this impact the relationships between the U.S., Gulf states?
- 49:45I mean, Europe is obviously affected by this.
- 49:48I've been viewing this through the lens of,
- 49:50it seems like a big proxy war with China and this AI race.
- 49:54At this time, emotions are very raw.
- 49:59So when people in the Gulf basically are extremely angry,
- 50:04they're being hit, their economy's being hit,
- 50:07their factory's being hit, their refiner's being hit,
- 50:10and their emotions are very raw.
- 50:13against the Iranians and they are blaming Trump because supposedly they have those contracts with
- 50:21Trump and they paid a lot of money and it says to be protected and they were not protected.
- 50:27You look at countries like Kuwait, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, etc. They were not protected. So
- 50:32the emotions at this stage are very raw. That's why we see articles like one yesterday saying that
- 50:39Saudi Arabia literally should tilt
- 50:41toward the Chinese
- 50:42big time as a result of that.
- 50:45And that goes back to your old theory
- 50:47about the dollar and the Bitcoin
- 50:49and all the stuff. If you remember that,
- 50:51we did this, what, three years ago or something like this.
- 50:54So,
- 50:54if that happened,
- 50:56that is a crisis. But why the Saudis
- 50:58are even talking, or why some Saudis
- 51:01are talking about this?
- 51:02Because the emotions are very raw.
- 51:05And the Europeans are the same thing.
- 51:06They are suffering from the highest jet fuel
- 51:08prices ever diesel prices, energy prices, everything you just too expensive. And they
- 51:16blame the United States because from their point of view, if Trump and Netanyahu did
- 51:20not go to Iran would not we would not have this problem. And of course, from my point
- 51:26of view, our problem with Europe is not only the United States, our problem with Europe
- 51:32is its leadership. And if you look at what they've been doing, it's crazy. I mean,
- 51:38And crazy beyond imagination, I'm going to tell you a story.
- 51:42Just last week, Germany signed a contract with Canada to import LNG from Canada, from northwest Canada.
- 51:53So if you can imagine the map from that corner where Alaska meets with Canada that where they are building an LNG terminal So Germany wants to buy LNG from there Germany has all the choices from around the world that are way closer to Germany But yet they chose this one because it has the lowest CO2
- 52:15footprint per unit. Why? Because they use hydroelectric. They don't use fossil fuel.
- 52:24but it is fossil fuel
- 52:27okay
- 52:29so here is the issue
- 52:30how you are going to get that gas to
- 52:33Germany
- 52:34look at the map
- 52:36we are talking about
- 52:38northwestern Canada
- 52:41so that's almost like across the ocean
- 52:43from Japan
- 52:44okay how you are going to get that to Germany
- 52:47the only way to get it to Germany
- 52:50is to have an LNG carrier
- 52:51going from the north pole because this is close
- 52:54to the North Pole, going all the way south to the South Pole, going around South Africa,
- 53:00going back again to the North Pole.
- 53:03Imagine the footprint of the fuel that is used in the carrier just to get that LNG to Germany.
- 53:12So that's the first crazy story.
- 53:14The second crazy story is they said, oh, no, no, we are not going to do that.
- 53:19We'll be doing something else.
- 53:21What are you going to do?
- 53:22Oh, we are going to do swaps.
- 53:24What do you mean swabs?
- 53:26Oh, we take that LNG from Canada.
- 53:29We send it to nearby Japan and China.
- 53:33Okay.
- 53:34And then whatever Japan and China was going to get from the U.S.,
- 53:37from the Gulf, we get it from there.
- 53:40So we do this swap, so we save.
- 53:43Here is the crazy thing.
- 53:45By their own definition, U.S. gas is dirty
- 53:48because they chose the Canadian one because it had the lowest CO2.
- 53:51That's not the case for the U.S.
- 53:54And the second one is they are anti-fracking.
- 53:57And that gas came from shale where it's fracked.
- 54:01So why just go ahead and get it from the United States?
- 54:04It's cheaper.
- 54:05It's better.
- 54:06You are getting it anyway.
- 54:08Why you have to play like this?
- 54:11So you take this mentality of the European leaders and apply it to so many things.
- 54:17And you will find they are playing all those games like that.
- 54:20And they are destroying Europe.
- 54:22The deindustrialization of Germany basically has become so obvious right now.
- 54:27It's a big problem.
- 54:29Finally, I would like to end with the following.
- 54:34As we speak right now, we have 15, literally 15 events around the world.
- 54:43All of them are bullish for oil, for energy in general.
- 54:4915 events.
- 54:50We never seen something like this in history in terms of everything lining up this way.
- 54:57Now, that does not mean oil prices will go through the roof.
- 55:00No, it just means that the economies will self-destruct.
- 55:04That's what that means.
- 55:06So we have the four seas crisis.
- 55:08If you look at the Panama Canal, in addition to everything we've seen, we have the Panama Canal.
- 55:17So when we talk about the waterways, by the way, as you all know, Panama Canal is a waterway.
- 55:22Bab el-Mendeb is a waterway.
- 55:24Swiss Canal, which was nearby the incident that happened, that's a waterway.
- 55:28And then we have the Hermann Street, that is a waterway.
- 55:31The Black Sea, the only way to exit the Black Sea, that's a waterway.
- 55:34And guess what?
- 55:35You've seen the video of those Moroccans crossing to Spain?
- 55:40That's another waterway.
- 55:41And one of my colleagues asked me today whether this is just another event of a waterway rather than an immigration issue.
- 55:49So almost every waterway we know of basically is having problems.
- 55:54The Turkish waterways, well, Zelensky from time to time is bombing ships there.
- 56:01That's other waterways.
- 56:03And the Danish waterways there, they are thinking about blocking the Russian, the sanctioned Russian ships from passing.
- 56:11So that's another waterway.
- 56:14Anyway, so we have the Panama Canal because of low water level.
- 56:20So shipping is slowing down.
- 56:22Then we have the Rhine River where the water level is just like 30, 40 centimeters only.
- 56:28So barges cannot go through.
- 56:30They carry everything, including fuel and everything else.
- 56:34So we have problems there.
- 56:36In France, because of the heat wave, the temperature of the water in the rivers is a little bit high to cool the nuclear plants, so they shut some of them down.
- 56:47And now they are using oil instead to generate electricity.
- 56:54So you start looking at all those events worldwide, and you can see that where are we heading now?
- 57:01We have a serious problem in all those events basically taking place.
- 57:07We lost by the way Libyan production from two oil fields because of disputes among the tribes So that was another one And now we are coming into the refining maintenance season What next Hurricane season too Oh hurricane Yeah you right There was
- 57:26by the way, we lost some production because of the recent storm. What, Bertha? I think the name
- 57:31was Bertha. Yeah. And then it's not really oil and gas related, but then obviously Taiwan's an
- 57:37an island that is a waterway that can pop off at any moment.
- 57:44What would your advice to this administration be?
- 57:49I would rather just avoid talking about the politics here because it's too late.
- 57:55The damage already happened.
- 57:57And it seems that there is a lot of things that we don't know.
- 58:02But one issue when it comes to investment, I think, and I still think that LNG is going to be one of the best investments ever.
- 58:14And LNG names, especially American names, basically are going to pay off handsomely.
- 58:20And natural gas, basically, in the United States is going to go up and down.
- 58:24So it's kind of very dangerous trade and investment.
- 58:28But for LNG, I mean, it's kind of like the best choice.
- 58:34Anyway, you look at it even 10 years from now, 15 years from now.
- 58:38On the oil front, it is a very dangerous trade, not because of the politics of it, not because of manipulation,
- 58:49simply because of the demand destruction and the demand decline that happened.
- 58:54And as a result of this, everyone is looking at China and say, okay, only China was not affected that much by this crisis.
- 59:06So what we need to do to avoid this crisis again?
- 59:11So they are going to study China and they are going to find out that the success of China stems from the fact that they knew the information ahead of time and they prepared for it.
- 59:21So they linked energy security to national security.
- 59:25They linked energy sources to energy security, and therefore they made the immediate link between energy sources and national security.
- 59:33And therefore, cost does not matter anymore.
- 59:38So what will happen now is every country, including European countries, are going to look at their domestic sources.
- 59:44and in most cases they will say, okay, we have those climate change policies that failed on solar, wind, EVs, and batteries.
- 59:53Now we are not going to use the word or the expression climate change anymore.
- 59:58We are going to use national security because no one can argue with us when we say national security.
- 1:00:04So we are going to provide a lot of subsidies.
- 1:00:06We are going to give tax breaks.
- 1:00:08all this criticism about subsidies and tax breaks will disappear once you start talking about national security.
- 1:00:15And once you do that, you are going to see emphasis on solar, wind, storage, batteries, EVs.
- 1:00:25So one of the best investments probably will be in the future or in the coming years, basically,
- 1:00:30is storage batteries in addition to LNG because this is going to be very big no matter what.
- 1:00:35And governments are going to subsidize it.
- 1:00:38So it's going to happen.
- 1:00:40But that does not mean the emphasis on climate change and their national security does not mean that renewables are going to take over.
- 1:00:49It's exactly the opposite.
- 1:00:51Now countries basically are going to hold into coal.
- 1:00:53We are bullish on coal.
- 1:00:56Coal is going to stay with us for years to come after Hermes.
- 1:00:59So Hermes saved coal.
- 1:01:02And then there will be a lot of emphasis on natural gas.
- 1:01:05Natural gas, like we said before, is going to be the future.
- 1:01:08Hermes has sealed the case for natural gas and energy.
- 1:01:13So when it comes to energy, I think the road is very clear right now.
- 1:01:18The idea that we'll go back to the past is not going to happen.
- 1:01:21Hermes is not going to be the same.
- 1:01:23Barmendip is not going to be the same.
- 1:01:25And the whole oil industry is not going to be the same.
- 1:01:28It's a brave new world.
- 1:01:29And the issue of national security, basically, and that's where the fear is.
- 1:01:38Remember, there were a government that owned companies, oil companies, and then they privatized them, but they still own 49 percent or 20 percent or 10 percent or whatever.
- 1:01:52And I fear that there will be a time when we are going to see nationalization, even in the West.
- 1:01:58It's already happening.
- 1:01:59So we see more government control.
- 1:02:01It's already happening in AI.
- 1:02:03Until?
- 1:02:04Yes.
- 1:02:05Rare earth metals.
- 1:02:06So the fear is it might move to the energy sector.
- 1:02:11Where do you think they would start?
- 1:02:13Batteries or natural gas?
- 1:02:16I mean, you sort of already have it, right, with the renewable energy credits.
- 1:02:20I guess it's not really nationalization.
- 1:02:21They don't have equity stakes in these companies, but.
- 1:02:24In a sense, the SPR is the Strategic Petroleum Resilient
- 1:02:29but I don't think it's going to be enough because when it comes to energy
- 1:02:34dominance, those who created the concept of energy dominance,
- 1:02:39basically they missed one area and it is the most important area,
- 1:02:44which is refining. If the United States wants energy dominance,
- 1:02:49they need to increase refining capacity by at least 4 million barrels a day
- 1:02:55a day, above today, which means that probably we need at least three, four refineries, new
- 1:03:01refineries. And you need more because some of the refineries have to literally, they are so old that
- 1:03:08you need to get rid of them. So probably we need more than that. But for the energy dominance, you
- 1:03:13need more refining. And the refining sector did an incredible job in terms of financial performance
- 1:03:21a recent mass i mean just look at uh valero and all the other sisters just incredible performance
- 1:03:30and we wouldn't even talk about venezuela and if the u.s wants to take advantage of that oil it's uh
- 1:03:36ask me i mean what is the state i don't know last time we talked about guayana
- 1:03:44and the deposits obviously since we last talk maduro was taken out it seems like the u.s is
- 1:03:50for partly taking part in regime change there.
- 1:03:55I think there's...
- 1:03:56Since December, it was very clear,
- 1:03:59and we published reports on that,
- 1:04:01basically saying that, look,
- 1:04:03Venezuela, based on various pieces of information we have,
- 1:04:07they can increase production up to,
- 1:04:10or exports to 1.1, probably 1.2 million barrels a day,
- 1:04:14and then they stop,
- 1:04:15and then they need way more time
- 1:04:17to increase production and exports.
- 1:04:19And that's where we are right now. So they reached their maximum. And now we need that investment to take place for it to increase production. The problem is people have to realize that the problems are too many.
- 1:04:32And the Trump administration and the Venezuelan government have done a big, very big mistake.
- 1:04:39It's a historic mistake, which is the speed in which they changed the laws in Venezuela to allow the American companies to come back.
- 1:04:51That's a big mistake because any new Chavez, any new young Chavez basically can come back and say, look, this was under duress.
- 1:05:00The American army was in our capital and our leadership was threatened and therefore they had to change the laws and they did not consult the Venezuelan people, etc.
- 1:05:11And therefore, all of those basically are void.
- 1:05:15They should have taken their time literally to change those laws so they can be on kind of firm ground to make the changes Because if you look historically at what happened you can see it And not only in Venezuela basically in various countries
- 1:05:35the same thing.
- 1:05:36So I think they have not learned from history
- 1:05:38that they should have taken their time to change those laws.
- 1:05:41Trump was in hurry,
- 1:05:43and those guys in charge in Venezuela were in hurry,
- 1:05:46and they've done it quickly,
- 1:05:47and that is a very big mistake.
- 1:05:50To increase Venezuelan production
- 1:05:52by another one million barrels a day,
- 1:05:54They need three years. The problem is U.S. companies, even in the negotiations, are still having serious problems. Why? Because the change of the laws was so quick, there is a kind of mismatch between certain laws and those laws.
- 1:06:10Just to give you an idea on how the mismatch happened.
- 1:06:14Remember when Trump allowed Iran, what that was a month and a half ago, when he removed the sanctions or suspended the sanctions on Iran, and he said Iran can sell its oil freely and for U.S. dollars?
- 1:06:29Okay.
- 1:06:30Well, it did not work out.
- 1:06:33Iran did not sell a single drop of oil to any country except China.
- 1:06:38despite that. Why? Because the Trump administration missed two things.
- 1:06:45First, to deliver that oil, you deliver it on ships.
- 1:06:50And those ships were sanctioned individually.
- 1:06:54So no country is going to allow those ships to come in no matter what.
- 1:06:58So they kind of ease the sanctions on one side,
- 1:07:04but when it comes down to practical things on the ground, it did not happen.
- 1:07:10And then Iran is still out of the SWIFT system.
- 1:07:14So how are you going to pay them?
- 1:07:15And the Iranians said, if you're not going to pay me cash,
- 1:07:17I'm not going to take anything from you.
- 1:07:19I'm not going to deal with you.
- 1:07:21So you take this idea of conflict between the policies,
- 1:07:25you have Trump easing the sanctions, but all the other laws are still there.
- 1:07:30So easing the sanctions meant nothing.
- 1:07:32We have the same problem in Venezuela now.
- 1:07:35They changed the laws here, but we still have many things here, here and here, that do not work to achieve that objective.
- 1:07:43So companies are still struggling.
- 1:07:46The other thing is because of what's been happening in the last 15 years or so, think about it this way.
- 1:07:54The cream of the crop of Venezuelan engineers left the country long ago.
- 1:08:00to work where?
- 1:08:03To work in Aramco and Adnok and BP and NE and Total around the world.
- 1:08:11And guess what?
- 1:08:12Their salaries are international salaries.
- 1:08:16So they got paid handsomely.
- 1:08:19Those guys are not going to go from let say a year to or There is no way which means that you have to pay them the same international salary to bring them back
- 1:08:35And that changes the calculus because they kept telling us
- 1:08:38it's so cheap, it's so cheap, it's so cheap.
- 1:08:41But if the cost is going up, that changes the calculus.
- 1:08:46And this is one of the problems.
- 1:08:47Otherwise, they have to bring the American engineers.
- 1:08:50And the American engineers are the most expensive engineers
- 1:08:52in the world.
- 1:08:54So they have all kinds of problems right now, and they can be solved on the margin.
- 1:09:02But in terms of politics and political instability, I think Venezuela is still an explosive kick,
- 1:09:11and we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.
- 1:09:13And the reason why, because the actual Venezuelans on the street have not benefited from the change that happened until today.
- 1:09:24They haven't seen it, and they need to see it to believe in it.
- 1:09:28A lot going on all over the world.
- 1:09:32Man, I'm sorry.
- 1:09:33I have bad news today.
- 1:09:34It's all bad news.
- 1:09:35So I don't know what to say.
- 1:09:37No, it makes you, I mean, going back to national security strategy, I think, yes, energy dominance was a theme.
- 1:09:43But the other big theme in that was like, hey, we're going to stop expanding our military excursions throughout the rest of the world and try to pack it in, focus on the Western hemisphere.
- 1:09:52and it seems like almost immediately,
- 1:09:55I mean, obviously,
- 1:09:56when Maduro was taken out overnight,
- 1:09:58it was very odd how it happened.
- 1:10:00Thank God it was very swift and quick.
- 1:10:02There's no ground war.
- 1:10:05I think everybody's like,
- 1:10:05okay, this makes a little sense.
- 1:10:06But then when Iran started,
- 1:10:07it's like, wait a second,
- 1:10:08you just went back on.
- 1:10:09Everything you said was the strategy.
- 1:10:11No more Middle Eastern wars.
- 1:10:12And you literally start one three months later.
- 1:10:16One of the criticisms that's been pointed out
- 1:10:19against what I've been saying,
- 1:10:20basically is saying that
- 1:10:21those plans are too complex for President Trump and his team.
- 1:10:28In a sense, they don't think highly of them in terms of being smart,
- 1:10:32and therefore I am completely wrong.
- 1:10:35I have no problem, and I hope I am wrong,
- 1:10:38because if I am wrong, that means things are better.
- 1:10:42But they have to realize that these plans,
- 1:10:46being constructed over a long period of time,
- 1:10:49way before Trump,
- 1:10:50And Trump and his team basically just executed the plan, and probably they executed it badly.
- 1:10:57It does not mean that all these plans that we see today are coming out of Trump.
- 1:11:03So the issue here is whether you like it or not, if you look at how the United States took over 30% of the AULNG from 0% to 30%,
- 1:11:15if you think that just happened, no, it did not happen just like that.
- 1:11:19They were planned.
- 1:11:20They were planned.
- 1:11:21They put those plans and we have construction and we have things and we have companies and we have government involved and we have President Trump and President Biden going around basically marketing this LNG etc
- 1:11:35This did not happen overnight.
- 1:11:38These things happened because of a plan.
- 1:11:41So to think what, because they are trying to sell us the idea that, oh, Netanyahu came into Trump and said we are going to attack Iran and Trump just got convinced.
- 1:11:50and all of a sudden we have all the US Navy overnight there and just happen.
- 1:11:55This is naive.
- 1:11:57Just to put those ships there takes months to prepare.
- 1:12:02So it cannot be just the way they are describing it as just, you know, things just happen.
- 1:12:07There is more to the story than that.
- 1:12:09And then you all have the variable of like drone warfare, asymmetric drone warfare,
- 1:12:13really throwing a wrench in conventional naval battles as well.
- 1:12:18So that adds a layer of chaos and unpredictability to the mix that you'd like to think people would have the foresight to imagine.
- 1:12:28But I mean, when there's the drones going from Ukraine to Russia or Iran to Gulf states, I think it's pretty clear that these drones are having an asymmetric effect.
- 1:12:40Absolutely. Absolutely.
- 1:12:42Well, Nas, it's always a pleasure. I know it's Friday afternoon for both of us.
- 1:12:46Thank you. Thank you.
- 1:12:46I appreciate you.
- 1:12:49Thank you.
- 1:12:50And I apologize to the audience.
- 1:12:51I don't have better news to tell you, but just be careful out there and just focus on the real things.
- 1:13:00Don't be fooled by the media.
- 1:13:01Don't be fooled by this big account on social media, et cetera.
- 1:13:05And don't take my words for granted in any way.
- 1:13:08Take my words, basically, and judge them against everything else you hear because that's the way to go.
- 1:13:14If you just take things for granted and you have that obsession that I criticized in the beginning, you are going to lose money.
- 1:13:21So be careful and best of luck for all of you.
- 1:13:24Beware, Freaks. Peace and love.
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