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When Institutions Break Who Fills The Void · The Elsa Kurt Show

• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, hey, hi.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: How are you, Clay?
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_05: I'm good.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_05: How are you?
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_01: Gina, every time I watch our intro now, I'm like, gee, should I update this with the short hair, Elsa?
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: Or like just let it I mean, the hair is gonna grow.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I don't know.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: Probably by the time I get around to it, my hair will be long again.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe I'll just leave it.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_05: You know, hair fads.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_05: That's me.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_05: You got me.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I know you're all about that.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's you know top top of mind for you.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: So you know what I do to Clay once a month, at least, maybe more.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: Once a month before we get on air, I say, Clay, guess what?
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: And he says, what?
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I say, I'm entirely unprepared for tonight.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: And Clay says, That's okay.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's how Clay rolls.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like he's so chill, he's so easygoing about my chaos that I occasionally, occasionally bring to the table.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: So just a very quick public thank you for um giving me some grace here.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I uh I hope y'all will give me some grace because I feel like some of these topics, I'm not gonna lie, some of these topics I feel like it's almost the first time that I'm really hearing about it.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: So um it's gonna be fun.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be an adventure.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_05: You know what's interesting though is that uh probably a year ago, um, since we have been doing this show for like two and a half years now, actually, probably well, yeah, a little over two and a half.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway, somebody made a comment once that was like, God, does this guy ever shut up?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_05: Let Elsa talk.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_05: And so like it always like is in the back of my head.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_05: Am I much?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_05: Am I letting and then I, you know, we have such a great balance, I think, like topics-wise, there are some that you jump on that you're super passionate about and I let you go, and there are the other ones that you let me go, and I I think it all works out, but it that is always in the back of my head.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_05: So today, folks, I may run my mouth, but that's because Elsa did not do her homework.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I have to tell you, the same thought goes through my mind.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I think anybody who does on-air commentary, interviews, conversation, any of those things, I think we all go through the same thing.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: We're we have like a mental or we try to have a mental clock running in our head, a timer telling us like kind of when to shut up, basically.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I go through it every time, whether it's with you or somebody else, whatever the case is.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, am I talking too much?
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think I'm talking too long.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes, yes, I'm absolutely talking too long.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: So it it happens, but like you said, it's I think it's a great balance.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_01: And um, we kind of just shift back and forth to whoever's either it's a strong point, you know, like especially with you, it's like military type stuff, uh, global things are more of your strong stuff.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm more strong, not that you're not as strong, but like the cultural issues are things that I get pretty passionate about.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: So we have kind of like our passion points of things that we love to talk about.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: And it works great for us.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: If it doesn't work great for you, that's okay.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_01: We love you anyway.
• 3:26
  unknown: It's okay.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: So much love.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_05: Start your own podcast.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, start your own podcast, run it the way you want, but you can't tell us what to do.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, you know, as um as expected, uh, we have Iran not back in the conversation, but of course, still in the conversation, um, still refusing a real breakthrough.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: The ceasefire is shaky, and the strait remains the loaded gun on the table.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: So the answer to what happens next is not peace, not yet.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's pressure, posturing, more negotiations through intermediaries, and a very real risk that one maritime clash turns into something much bigger.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, obviously we're um I'm sure we all feel like we're constantly on this precipice of something.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, it's um so what has really kind of come out in the last 24 hours, by the way, folks, it is Wednesday.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_05: It is 4 15-ish Eastern time.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so you know the point of reference time-wise.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_05: Anything can happen in the next 24 hours, any 24-hour cycle, especially when it comes to Iran, can change things drastically.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_05: But what's come out in the last 24 hours or so is that, you know, in the in the governmental structure of Iran, it's this weird balance between, and I say weird because, you know, for the United States, separation of church and state, we don't have religious leaders, you know, within the government, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_05: Well, in Iran, so you've got the you know, supreme leader, the Ayatollah, who is a religious leader, but also essentially holds, you know, the premier leadership role in Iran to include political.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_05: They do have an elected president, although right now I think their elected president is like, you know, fourth man down the chain because everybody else has been killed between here and there.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and then of course, you've got the military.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_05: And so, you know, we're on our second Ayatollah.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_05: You know, we we killed uh Ayatollah Khomeini was killed in the initial strikes.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_05: His son is currently, you know, what were they referring to him as cardboard, cardboard Ayatollah?
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_05: He's currently in the seat, right?
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_05: And so the president who is in power is trying to re-establish government.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_05: He's trying to appoint people, he's trying to get things working again, but the IRGC, you know, their that their military has essentially put a they've put the Ayatollah in a box and they've surrounded him, and he has no contact with the president.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_05: So the president has zero power without the Ayatollah.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_05: He can't appoint anybody, he can't make any progress, he can't negotiate on behalf of the country.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, and that's what the IRGC, that's what the military wants.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_05: They want the Ayatollah isolated, they want him under their control.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_05: This is you can't call this a military coup, which there was an anticipation on whether or not that was going to happen.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you can't call it a coup because they haven't taken anybody out of power.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_05: But what they have done is put them on an island.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_05: So right now, negotiations have broken down.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_05: There is no viable negotiator on behalf of Iran.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_05: Um, IRGC has taken control of the Ayatollah, and so they are controlling any communication into him, and and so that puts everything on the precipice of violence, high violence.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_05: Because that's what the anticipation is, IRGC wants that.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_05: So they want to continue to fight, they want to continue everything that they've been doing for the last few weeks, and they they don't want the Ayatollah or anybody else negotiating a ceasefire of any kind.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_05: So I it it does not look good.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and we talked last week, you know.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_05: I've said this, I've been saying this since the beginning.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_05: Successful regime change is going to require boots on the ground.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_05: This is exactly what I was talking about.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_05: The only way this regime changes, especially when you've got the Ayatollah, the Supreme Leader, being protected and isolated by the military, is to remove the military leadership from the from the equation.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and and therefore, you know, reset the Ayatollah and potentially even the president.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_05: That's going to require the people to go in and do it at this point.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_05: And and so it's not looking good, folks.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, we had a nice, we had a drop.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_05: What was it?
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_05: There was a a gas dropped on average across the nation, like 50 cents overnight, and then within 24 hours it was back up 40 cents or something like that.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_05: Um, because oil, the price of oil dropped because the strait was open, and then the strait closed again, and then oil went back up.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_05: And yeah, Iranians are now shooting at uh vehicles or uh tankers and and other ships moving through the strait.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_05: United States took over a Iranian flagged cargo ship.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_05: Um, tensions are high, and and I don't think there is a good outcome anywhere in the near future.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, it certainly doesn't sound that way.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, that the number one, and correct me if I'm wrong, the number one sticking point here uh on the Trump administration side, the US side, is that dude, you're not getting any bomb-making nuclear weapons or materials to create.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's not happening.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: So that's the non-negotiable uh on our end, on our side of it.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, to me, it's kind of common sense that yeah, no, that's a non-negotiable, like you that's not going to happen, not now, not ever, or at least not during this administration.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so and they are clearly saying, well, that doesn't work for us, that's what we want.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, the straight um, you know, is is clearly where they're kind of putting all their energy right now.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I mean, I I don't know, I don't know an alternative uh to this because we're dealing with people that have absolutely no problem dying for their cause.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, these are the death to America people.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: They don't care, they don't care.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: So they will fight to the death, even if that means their complete annihilation, which by the way, these are the same people that uh when they suspect, and again, correct me if I'm wrong.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: I remember reading this recently that there was uh a threat or a belief that they we were going to uh bomb a particular area.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: And what did they do?
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: They moved all their civilians in the way, and you know, so these are the people that you're dealing with.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: They don't care about loss of life, it means nothing to them.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: So uh I don't know.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_05: That the nuclear material is the the that is the red line for the Trump administration.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and now we're at the point where we have said, hey, we'll we'll come excavate it, we'll come pull it out of there, uh, which again is now a high-risk operation, boots on the ground.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_05: That is not, you know, that becomes an issue as well.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_05: But um, you know, we've said, you know, is the goal the non-nuclear capability, non-nuclear weapon capability, non-nuclear energy capability, is the goal regime change?
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_05: Is it both?
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_05: And I think at least what's being presented is it's kind of a moving target.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_05: I think when applicable, we talk about no nuclear capability, but I also think you know, we're not being, we the United States are not being totally honest in the sense of this does have to do with regime change.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_05: This does have to do with um, you know, potential free trade and alliances that Iran has and and movement of of goods and serve, you know, goods and and especially oil through the strait.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of pieces to this.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_05: It's very, very um, it's it's not as simple as no nukes.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_05: Like it just is not that simple in you know in the red lines, but also in the execution.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_05: So we we have uh we've put ourselves in a little bit of a corner here uh because it has it has gone a little bit off the rails.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_05: I think our expectation was that the Iranians would uh kind of cave by now uh after killing literally levels and levels of leadership.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we figured that once we got down to the four or fourth tier guy, he'd be like, hey man, you can do whatever you want, but they're they're not.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_05: And so it's gonna be a challenge and it's gonna be high tense.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_05: You know, I I almost liken this, it's non-nuclear, and it and of course the difference make or the distance is very different, but this has to me kind of a you know, Cuban missile crisis kind of a feel to it, in that you've got a a uh you know, somebody's it's almost a game of chicken.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_05: Who's gonna blink first?
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_05: And so we're just gonna have to watch.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, President Trump's not gonna blink.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: No, he's not going to.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: There's no way.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: There's no way he simply can't.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_05: So this is what is on the fringes.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_05: You've got the whole NATO thing, you've got, you know, obviously, you know, the lack of oil is affecting not just trade, but it's affecting industry everywhere.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_05: And and so yeah, there's there's a lot involved with this.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, you know, I'm sure that a week from now we will be back here talking about this in a very different context because I'm sure every something significant develops.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: So talk to me about so here's something that I'm struggling to uh really grasp, and and it's as I you know scroll social media and and all of those things.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm watching people, like, for example, I'm not sure if you saw this, but uh Chris Murphy, uh senator from Connecticut, who is an absolute tool.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh absolute 100% tool, just such a punchable kind of face.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry I shouldn't say things like that, but I just did.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: He commented or he tweeted uh it was a it ended up being a fake post about like Iran getting like 26 ships through the strait or something, like some outlandish thing that uh it was basically termed as a success on the Iranian part against the US in the strait.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: And he retweeted it and commented awesome news or just simply awesome.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: And then it turned out to be fake, it didn't really happen and all that stuff.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: But the fact that he found that to be awesome, and of course, we're now I just saw something from uh the actress Ann Hathaway.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, which yes, we all say who cares what they say and think, but she used uh uh an Arabic term or something, you know.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_05: So you said she said inshallah.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yeah.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: So you have all of these um, you know, left-leaning typically, and some right, quite a few on the right, um people in support of Iran and against you know, against our involvement, all of those things, but more so like you can be against it and not for Iran.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: And here's where I'm struggling.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are these people thinking?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like these this is in part also obviously you've got the whole oil thing and the strait and all of this stuff going on, which are major factors, but there's also this major humanitarian factor of the people, the Iranian people who are essentially held hostage in their own country.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: By the way, Trump just uh secured the release, I think it was eight women, uh Iranian female protesters, and he secured their their freedom, um, which is pretty amazing.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I I I just don't get it.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: Do they not understand the difference between the Iranian regime and the Iranian people?
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Because to me, there's two very different things.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, no.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, correct me where I need to be corrected.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this is um I I think this is uh, you know, wave the Palestinian flag last week, wave the Ukrainian flag two weeks ago, now wave the Iranian flag.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_05: You know, it's whatever's cool and kosher in in those circles.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_05: I think the Ann Ann Hathaway thing was a little bit blown out of proportion because just the use of inshallah, if you if somebody views that as support for Iran, there's an entire generation of veterans who spent years saying inshallah because it's as God wills it.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_05: Like that it's one of those things the Iraqis, the Afghans used to say it like inshallah.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_05: Like if it if it happens, it happens.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_05: Like that's what God wants if it happens.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so it is, you know, if if God if God wills it.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_05: So I think that's a little bit blown out of proportion.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_05: Now, Chris Murphy, totally different story.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, you know, the idea that we've got American politicians, uh it's okay if you don't support the war.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_05: Like that's the way our political system is.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_05: You should never be rooting against the United States, right?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_05: And there's a there's a significant difference between being anti-war and anti-US, but at the same time, you know, kind of goes back to the discussion about the Pope.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_05: Like at some point, violence has to be inflicted to stop violence from happening, right?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_05: And it goes back to what you were talking about with these with the protesters and the slaughter of innocent civilians by the Iranian government, and so any bit of uh perceived support for them from anyone who is a US citizen, let alone a politician, um feeds into this, like, you know, um, see, see, the Americans, there's it, there's an American celebrity that thinks we're doing the right thing, or an American politician thinks we're right.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_05: And yeah, and so you know, this is one of those cases where it's like just keep your if you don't agree that's okay, keep your mouth shut.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_05: Like just stop.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_05: Um because you're really not help, you're not helping anything, you're not helping stopping of you know, violence and combat operations, you're not you're not helping anything.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_05: Again, the Ann Hathaway thing I think is blown out of proportion, but Chris Murphy, I think, is completely in the wrong for anything.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_05: I and I did as you were describing it, I'm like, I did see that.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the tweet.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_05: And I was like, and it and in the context of it, I looked at it and I was like, what is this idiot trying to say?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_05: Because it was seemed very odd, but again, anything that can be misinterpreted, uh, it's just as dangerous as saying something purposeful.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know, again, these are the things like people like Chris Murphy, just keep it in your pocket.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_05: You want to say it to your spouse at the dinner table, fuck, keep it off the social media.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: Or, you know, if you can't, if you can't keep your mouth shut, make sure you are very clear on what you're trying to say.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, if that was misconstrued or misunderstood, that was, you know, that's a pretty big one.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: That was a pretty big uh one to be misunderstood on because you know what the implication there is, um, you know, like you said, anti-America to the max.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like you know, clearly saying, Oh, good, well, you know, unfortunately, like you said, Clay, we will absolutely have more to say about this next week.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: So we will keep an eye on all of it uh as everything unfolds.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and just uh keep watching those strong, strong opinions uh uh from both perspectives on it.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: But I don't know.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh all right, let's bring it in uh a little, well, basically local.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: The labor secretary, Lori Chavez Derrimer.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: Did I say her last name right?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: Derrimer?
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, I think that's right.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_05: She's out in a station.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh she's out, not a graceful uh career pivot at all.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: She resigned under a misconduct cloud with allegations involving misuse of resources, inappropriate conduct, and internal dysfunction.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what the heck?
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: So it's listen, uh, we all know that this is not something new that's going on uh it in Washington in politics, period.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: These are, you know, um bunch of dirty dogs there, you know, and it's like I think it's like the you know, it's the power thing.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh absolute power absolutely corrupts.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this is, you know, I think another example of it.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: I I feel like the only difference is is now everybody's getting caught and and they're not turning a blind eye.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it's always um when it's convenient also to get rid of somebody, right?
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so you know, you and I had talked, we've been talking that this is the time it's been 15, 16 months since inauguration and the implementation or you know, put putting these cabinet members in.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_05: And President Trump is, you know, he's trading people out.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_05: We knew this was coming.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, but this one she did on her own.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_05: And so there was an accusation of um, you know, kind of a I think if I remember reading this correctly, abusive language towards staffers.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but there's also an accusation of her having an affair with a uh bodyguard or somebody on her security detail.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_05: Um she's a Republican from Oregon, so there's a joke in there somewhere about like how we should have known something was not right, but I I'm not too sure what it is.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_05: But so you know, we had um we had Swalwell and Gonzalez last week.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_05: She resigned this week.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and then of course we've also got uh Representative Sheila Churf Cherfilis McCormick out of Florida.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Say that ten times fast.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_05: Who also resigned out of Congress, Democrat out of Florida, uh for twenty.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_05: Count them ethics violations.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the uh House Ethics Committee uh was gonna come after her.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_05: They were gonna essentially they were gonna force her to resign, or they were gonna put up a vote to to kick her out.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_05: So she just kind of beat her, beat them to it.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so I think this is kind of the swamp stuff that most of us were hoping for, right?
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_05: Um, right?
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: Get rid of the I mean you and you got both sides here.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: This is not just one side.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I I think one of the things that I'm disappointed in with the White House is especially when you look at the statement that was made about the labor secretary.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_05: Do you know what they said?
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_05: No, the exact same thing they said about Pam Bondi.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_05: She is moving to a uh position in the civilian sector, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_05: And it's like when you use, okay, when you said it about Bondi, that was one thing, right?
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_05: And there were a little bit of swirling rumors about her, and then she was, you know, basically told to resign or whatever.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_05: And then they said, Oh, well, she's moving on to the civilian sector.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_05: She has an opportunity that's you know is going to be beneficial to her, blah, blah, blah.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_05: And so everybody was like, Yeah, I don't know how true that is.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_05: But okay, when you have somebody who has this kind, these kinds of issues, yeah, right, and a whistleblower and all kinds of accusations, and and she resigns, and then you say the exact same thing, that makes you go back and look at the Pam Bondi one and go, sure.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_05: See, they were lying.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_05: I knew they were lying.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_05: You don't use the same thing twice.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_05: So I think that the White House probably needs to be a little bit more upfront uh about where they stand on these.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_05: And I know it's you know, you know, you're kicking a dog, you know, that's already on its way out.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe it's necessary, maybe it's not, but it the the impression of it is what matters, the optics of it for the rest of us.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, we're happy they're emptying the swamp, but at the same time, be truthful with us uh as we do it.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_05: Don't spare them, none of them, truthfully.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_05: If they've been caught doing something wrong, spare and I don't care what party is, spare none of them, you know.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um, call it like it is, you don't have to be harsh about it.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_05: Um don't but don't soften it either.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you that's it is what it is.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_05: So um yeah, more resignations.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_05: Why do I think there's more coming?
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_05: I think there is more coming.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_05: I I think it's great.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um, yes, I did see though.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_05: Did you see they they released I think it was our girl Luna, um and maybe Mace as well, were like we need to release every invest sexual uh misconduct and investigation that's happened, and they released all the way back to like the 90, like 79, I think was the oldest one in the list.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_05: Wow, and I was like, first of all, there was like 25 of them, I think, and it goes back all the way to 79.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, first of all, that's all.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's it.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: There has been we know there's more, we know there's more time.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_05: If you said seven twenty-five, yeah, and then you didn't give a timeline, and and you know, so it's probably good that they went back and they named they named them all, every one of them, and they named the results.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_05: Nothing, you know, nothing founded or you know, resigned, or I mean, there were people in there that are dead for crying out loud, like there was some really old stuff in there.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_05: But uh I think that was an attempt at transparency.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: I guess it's better than nothing, but yeah, it's something, and I don't think it's quite all of what they were asking for.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: There was more than that, I think, that they wanted uh release, like all of the ones that that um basically were paid to quietly go away, right?
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's there, oh what do they call that?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: The swatch fund.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, thank you.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, and you know, yeah, we absolutely should should know.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: We should be told who those people are, what they did, you know, do the uh, you know, the the national walk of shame, basically.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh just yeah, enough protecting these people.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: And again, to echo you, and I know we've said it many times, I don't care what side they're on, I don't care.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, and I said I've said similar about, you know, I've had, of course, over the years with my husband in law enforcement, many, many conversations with people about, you know, the there's always like um uh the the bad apples that that spoil the bunch and all of those things.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, and the reality is is nobody hates a bad cop more than a good cop, you know, and I feel like it should be the same across every profession.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: If whatever your profession is, whatever you're representing, you should absolutely abhor anyone who does not represent the title as they should.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: And you should expect, whether you like them or not, you should expect the same consequence for them.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: So again, I don't care what side of the aisle they're on.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: If you're garbage, get out, just go, do your walk of shame.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and if you've done something criminal, you know, I I that's the thing that kind of gets me with some of these.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I'm going to assume maybe wrongly that all of these things, well, with the exception of the there was the Florida one, you said that they were like she has potential criminal charges coming.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: So that, you know, that's kind of the the the caveat there that, you know, obviously if they've done something criminal, I want you charge.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: That should be kind of automatic.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like it, I don't like the idea or the perception that they're just able to resign and go away quietly.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: So, and I would hope that's not the case if there are criminal allegations there.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it goes into the like illegal, immoral, unethical, right?
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_05: And so there's an ethics code for Congress, right?
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_05: And and they have committees, ethics committees on in both houses.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_05: You know, immoral is is uh, you know, kind of caught between, or I guess is the catch-all.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_05: But then illegal is illegal.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_05: Like I don't care.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_05: Like, again, if you know, this the rep from Florida, there's potential criminal charges for you know, misappropriation of funds and and all kinds of things.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_05: So if it's illegal, it's illegal, and there should be criminal charges that come along with it.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_05: And you're right, nobody should be able to just resign and walk away from those things.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_05: So hold them accountable.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_05: That's what we've all been asking for, and it still goes back to Hillary Clinton.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_05: Like, what like why that and Epstein?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_05: Like, nobody's been arrested, and we're all irritated about it.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_05: And so the last thing we want to see is somebody walk away when you know we know that they've done something illegal.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_05: So, yeah, we you know, I know Kosh Patel's been under a lot of fire lately, and you know, he defended himself standing at a podium.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_05: I think it was either today or yesterday, but uh um arrest people like this.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_05: We want to see some of this.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_05: I get it.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_05: Fentanyl dealers and the 10 most wanted, and like all of the, you know, child molester, all that stuff.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like we're we're all for everything the FBI is doing.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_05: But at the same time, corrupt politicians need to go too.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's you know, it's when you're not seeing those things happen.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: And and let's face it, let's be realistic here.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: All we're gonna hear, particularly from the the mainstream media, is the failings or the um incompletes, essentially, right?
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: We're only gonna hear about that.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: And that is what we tend to focus on the most collectively, um, the not realized um promises.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: And there there are, you know, I actually was just compiling a list um just yesterday for like because I was thinking about it.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are all the wins?
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I know we're talking about the the things that people aren't happy about right now.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, Iran, a lot of uh feelings about that.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, a lot of feelings about those gas prices going, of course, all related, but the gas prices going up, the Epstein uh lack of arrests in that, and you know, so whatever what other issues that are going on that people are discussing right now.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it got me thinking like, hang on, I know there's been a lot of winds too, and we're not paying any attention to those.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Those are just getting like swept under the rug.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I will be addressing that once I get that all wrapped up with a tidy bow.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: That'll be fun.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, because I think it's important to do, you know, and it and I I think both things can be true at the same time, right?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: There are things that we are not happy about and we want to see go in a different direction than what they are, and they should be called out and we should be making a lot of noise about it, but we can also point out the good.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it's it's my one of my favorite words in the entire world is balance.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: There is a balance here, and you know, I think there is a space to to be in the middle of things where you can see both and all things objectively, you know, and I it gets harder and harder to do, and I've been guilty um uh of not having that balance in my opinions, uh, just like everybody else.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: So it I feel like just really, really striving for that.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and transitioning to another topic.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, we have a lack of balance in the late night, guys, as we've always known.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_05: But this is so blatant.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so obviously last week Eric Swalwell, you know, resigned uh among you know tons and tons and tons of accusations.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_05: But here's the kicker, and this is why you know we don't we we all see the imbalance, um, but but you know, this is one that you can actually capture.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know, between Colbert and Kimmel, there was zero and and Fallon too, but truthfully, Fallon stays away from this stuff.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_05: Like I did some some deeper research on this because you know Colbert and Kimmel are are outwardly political.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_05: Fallon is less political.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_05: He takes his shots every once in a while, but is much less political and truthfully doesn't dip into stuff like this.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_05: So he stayed away from Swalwell too.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, Colbert and Kimmel, both of them, not a single thing about Swalwell.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_05: Now, here's where the hypocrisy comes in.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_05: 2020, when Swalwell said, I'm gonna run for president.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_05: Do you know where he made the announcement?
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_05: Where on the Colbert show.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: I I knew it was gonna be one of those two.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: I just wasn't sure which one.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_05: When he when he announced he was running for governor of California, do you know where he made the announcement?
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_05: On Timmel.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_05: Of course.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_05: So he's been a guest on both of those shows for major announcements with support from both of those late night hosts, and then this happens and not a peep from either one of them.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_05: And so, for all of us who see this, right?
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_05: We all see it happening.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_05: The hypocrisy is so blatant, and then you wonder why.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_05: Like Colbert and Kimmel both, you know, they get upset.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_05: Well, why is Colbert ending?
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_05: Why is my show being taken off the air?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_05: And Kimmel, you know, same thing.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_05: Why did I get suspended?
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_05: This is ridiculous.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_05: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_05: Well, it's because of garbage like that.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_05: Like you don't have the intestinal fortitude or the integrity to call out a piece of garbage like swallow, truthfully.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_05: And so it, you know, it is what it is.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_05: Um, don't expect anything out of them, and you won't be disappointed because that's all you're gonna get.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: And you can't get, I mean, you just can't get any clear, as if it shouldn't be already obvious, uh, clear indication of who's paying them, where their paychecks are coming from.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, can't can it get any clearer than this when your narrative, you know, I'm sure, and I'm sure people have done it, but if you did like a running um tracker of how many times uh those particular shows bashed Trump or bashed right?
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_05: People keep track of check and the numbers are ridiculous, they're accurate.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like the skew on that is it's almost absurd.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: And anyone who has, oh, I don't know, any kind of balance in their thinking will notice that and say, hang on, here, something's wrong.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: And clearly, you know, Colbert ending and uh Kimmel getting in trouble, you know, somebody's paying attention, somebody with some kind of influence is paying attention.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: But until people really start waking up and saying, you know, enough is enough.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: I I want to hear both sides.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: I want to hear more than just one perspective on this topic, or better yet, how about you just tell me what's going on and and call it a day and let me decide what I think of it.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: And if you're uh a supposed comic or late night, you know, comedic host of what's supposed to be entertaining and fun.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember the old days when they when everybody was fair game?
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody took their shots and it wasn't mean, unless it was like the um the what's his name?
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and I love them too.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: The roast.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: You remember the roast with like Don Rickles and Oh, yeah.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, those were I could barely watch those.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're so vicious.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_05: Rickles was mean, but that was his thing, right?
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_05: That was his thing.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_05: Saturday Night Live made fun of every single president, like made fun of every single president until President Obama.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and then it went off, and then it went off the rails.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_05: So um, you know, the the landscape has changed, they're not being honest anymore.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, it it I it's why those it's why that medium is ending.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_05: That's why late night television is dying.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's a self-inflicted wound, and it's because they're not honest.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_05: They're they're not honest about anything, and they're super politically leaning one direction.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know, you get what you pay for, uh both cases.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's amazing to me that we're in an era where we're actually watching in real time like mainstream media, um, mainstream television shows and movies, and just that entire industry is really imploding because they they are destroying themselves with their overt liberal agenda.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, and it's not to say, you know, I watch, I've I've gone back to watching, I'm basically only for the most part watching shows that were pre 2010, I think, or maybe even up to like 2016 when, oh, I don't know, a certain president uh became president, right?
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um so anything before that, it's okay.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like there is clearly, you can see if you're paying attention, you can clearly see the the liberal um slant, but there was a there was fairness.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_01: There was fairness in it, and it was funny, and it was actually funny.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you could see, you know, all of that stuff, but it wasn't what the whole show was about.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't look for ways to sneak in those digs and those shots every chance they got.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, now of course it's uh not that at all.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: People are tired of it.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think people who are even, you know, somewhere leaning in that direction, but maybe not full middle of the road people, balanced people, um, you know, they're the ones that are like, nah, you know, it's just too much.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's too much.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: And they're destroying themselves and they can't see it and they don't care.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: They're so big and high on their moral ground, you know, their grandstanding and soapboxing that they can't see what they're doing to their own industry.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_05: And so that, you know, transitioning again, the downfall of Swalwell is far reaching because now in California, what you've got are, you know, so in various polls, and I looked up probably three or four of them, in various polls, the top five candidates are kind of, you know, there's some interchangeability um in really spots two through five, depending on the the uh the poll that you look at.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_05: But Mr.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_05: Hilton, who is a British-born conservative, yeah, uh is leading in all the polls.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um now, with Swalwell bowing out and the his supporters, although not huge, but his supporters kind of spreading the wealth across the other Dem candidates.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_05: So you've got Republican Hilton, uh, you've got Democrat uh Becerra, you've got Democrat Steyr, you've got Republican Bianco, and then you've got Democrat Porter, right?
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_05: Those are the top five.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so right now there's there's a lot of splits in there.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_05: This is, you know, almost like we had, you know, when we were worried about Kennedy as an independent, screwing up the last election, right?
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_05: Or even going back to Ross Perot, because California is what it is right now, you know, there's a lot of divided um bases across the board.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_05: So there is a a pretty significant possibility that California is gonna end up with a Republican governor uh coming out of this next cycle.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_05: And and it's you know, Hilton's the guy.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_05: And if you've ever listened to him speak, he is very, very intelligent.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_05: He was a Fox News correspondent for a long time.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_05: Some of you may be familiar with him, it may not be somebody who readily like, but if you saw a picture of him and you heard him speak, you go, Oh, I know who that guy is.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um, but he's a great candidate.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_05: I think he's gonna do very well for California.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but again, when Swalwell dropped out, it shuffled things.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_05: And so, as an example, the top five in one of the polls that I watched, the the votes right now are divided 20, 15, 15, 14, 10.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_05: With uh with a with a four percent margin of error in that right, and so and you've got 20, I think they said 23 undecided.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_05: So there's a lot of leeway that can happen in this election, and really, you know, unfortunately, I think what the best thing that could have happened for Republicans was if Swallow would have stayed in the race.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_05: Sure.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_05: Because he truthfully would have drawn a massive, a significant amount of um support, but not enough to win.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_05: So now that he broke out, it shuffles the cards.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_05: And and I think there's a lot up in the air in California, but I think there is a pretty good possibility.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_05: In fact, I'm gonna call it right now.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_05: You know me and my predictions.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna say California's got a Republican governor after all of this is over with.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, okay.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's interesting because my my question to you was going to be um it first in pointing out that we talked about last week with Swalwell that this happened.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: This all came out because somebody wanted him out.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_01: It was time for him to go.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: So, because this is, you know, one of those everybody knows secret.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: They all knew that this guy's a piece of garbage and all the stuff that he's doing.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't convenient until right now to bring it to light.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_01: So, my question was going to be why now?
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: Why, why do they want to get rid of him?
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: Because he's obviously, you know, uh seems to be a standout guy.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_01: He's everybody knows his name and making the you know late night show circuit.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_01: So why now?
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess you kind of just answered that with um, they didn't feel like he could win, right?
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's kind of like I think there's gonna be a consolidation.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_05: I think you're gonna see he was my guess is he was the guy who was gonna get the the highest number of Democratic votes, and he was never gonna back out of the election, and there was gonna be a split, and so therefore no Democrat was gonna win.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_05: So they got him away because he couldn't win, because like you said, everybody knew he was a dirtbag.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right, but he was still gonna hold enough votes that it was gonna screw up the election.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_05: So I think what you're gonna see is other Democrats are gonna drop out and they're gonna consolidate right the base so that a Democrat has a much better shot of winning.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_05: But I think with him in the race, he was gonna screw it up for everybody.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, I I still don't think they're gonna win, but I think if he stayed in, it would have been uh a much easier win for a conservative in California because he would screw up the mix.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_05: So I think he got removed to to make things to give the Dems a fighting chance in California.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that um California is is changing politically, or do you think we're just like watching the Democrats?
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's exhaustion.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_05: I and I think I think you're gonna start seeing it.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_05: I think California's one.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, we we got a little bit of a taste of it in New York with with Adams, you know, being elected mayor, and then and then the pendulum swung in the opposite direction.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_05: But I think there's there is exhaustion in places that it you're gonna start seeing some swings.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_05: I think yeah, President Trump, I think his, you know, Kamala, your buddy Kamala was such a horrible candidate.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think there was some exhaustion with the Democrat Party and how all that was handled, and that led to not his victory, but the size of the victory, right?
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_05: I think clearing every swing state had a lot to do with exhaustion.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_05: I think California is experiencing a lot of exhaustion and it has to do with homelessness and you know, fraud and wasted money and all of these things.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_05: Um, right.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_05: So I I think they're tired of it.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I think how can they not be tired of it?
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_05: Well, but but at the same time, you've got places like Seattle and the state of Washington, and you know, which keeps getting worse.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_05: By the day, and they don't seem to be tired of it.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_05: So, but I think California's got enough of a red base, especially north of the bay, um that that there's enough that can be done there.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_05: So I I think it's exhaustion, truthfully.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's I mean, everybody should be exhausted at this point.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um right.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of exhausting, let's move on to another part of the country, Virginia gerrymandering.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Virginia voters narrowly approved a mid-decade redistricting measure redistricting measure.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: And suddenly the people who spent years preaching that gerrymandering is evil are now calling this one democracy in action.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: Surprise, surprise.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_01: Funny how the moral principle always seems to arrive wearing the jersey of whoever benefits.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, Clay.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_05: So this is, you know, this is in, and it's not been a secret.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_05: This is in reaction to Texas.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_05: And so the difference though is that in this one, I looked at it and so it was 51 and a half percent yes and 48.6 percent no, um, right in the vote.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_05: So it was really that close.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but the impact is massive.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_05: And and when I say massive, this will essentially go from a six-five split in represent in representatives.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so right now it's like six districts are blue, five districts are red, uh, going in in the house of representatives is gonna go to a 10 to one.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_05: So this is a massive four, eight, really eight-seat swing.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, it's a plus four, minus four, you know, plus four blue, minus four red.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_05: So an eight-seat swing um just coming out of Virginia.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_05: There there is, and this is temporary, folks.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_05: They know they they have acknowledged that come 30 when the 3030 or 2030 census happens, and they have essentially said, when 2030 census happens, we're gonna go back to the old way of district drawing based on the 2030 census.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_05: This is a temporary uh action, solely has to do with 2026 elections.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and so um, but this is about you know offsetting Texas, controlling the House of Representatives, um, potentially winning, you know, hopefully swinging in the for the Dems, they want to swing as much as they can in Congress.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_05: So um, but it was that close that there is hope that the Virginia Supreme Court is gonna step in and say, no, this is right unconstitutional.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_05: I think at the state level is the argument at this point, but I don't, I'm not a, you know, I don't know Virginia, I don't know their state constitution.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_05: But um, that is the hope at this point.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_05: But it is a referendum that has been passed, and uh supposedly it's gonna go into law, and it will affect the 2026 midterm elections.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: And there's uh there's no blocking that before that.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it is what it is.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_05: I I don't know, I don't know how quickly it's gonna get to the state supreme court.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_05: I I really have no idea.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but you know, this is purposeful, and this is stacking the deck, folks.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_05: That's what this is.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_05: This has nothing to do with betterment of uh our political system or anything like that.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_05: This has or better representation.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_05: This is literally about rigging the system, finding the loopholes.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_05: This is cheating on your taxes.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_05: Like for everybody who screams and yells about rich people cheating on their taxes, this is the same thing, right?
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_05: You know, rich people look at the tax code, they know how to work the tax code, they understand where the the deductions are, and they use the tax code to their benefit.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_05: In this case, the Democrats looked at you know the legal procedures for redrawing districts in the state of Virginia.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_05: They passed some laws, they put this referendum in place, and and they got what they wanted.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_05: So if you hate rich people quote unquote not paying their fair share, because they're actually using the tax code, this is the same thing.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_05: They use the legal system to get what they wanted and rig the system, and they found a loophole.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so again, this goes back to the legal, moral, ethical issue.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_05: You know, um, this is the this is the part where is it legal?
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, it is.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_05: Is it ethical?
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_05: Well, according to the state, it is ethical.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_05: Is it moral?
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_05: And I would tell you that probably not.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so it feels like not.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_05: So we this would this is one that uh is gonna continue to stay in the news cycle as it as it progresses, and hopefully uh the sub state supreme court will step in and and strike this down pretty quickly.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: We can uh we can hope.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see what happens with it.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, it's hard.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: I find myself so much of the time now uh giving myself the you know mental pulling the brakes basically and saying, don't get mad, don't get mad, don't get agitated by these things.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's you know it is getting agitated about it is not gonna do a darn thing, especially when it's out of out of your own state and out of, you know, literally and completely out of your control.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_01: But man oh man, if you if you're somewhere where you've got a say or the ability to at least try and have a say, you should be jumping in here.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_01: You should be jumping in, but oh so we'll see.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see what happens.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, all right, let's move on to how about Apple?
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: We talk about Apple yet.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't talk about Apple yet.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_05: No, so this folks is uh uh somewhat monumental.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_05: Uh if you're an Apple fan, uh, but but I think it's something to be appreciated.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not an Apple fan.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but you know, the CEO Tim Cook, who has been the CEO there for a while.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how long?
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's been a long time.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_05: It's been a long time.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so he is moving on to be the executive executive chair of their board, um, being replaced by a guy named Turnus, um, who is an engineer uh by trade, uh, but is supposedly has a very innovative kind of personality.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_05: But here's the kicker and to tell you what kind of value Tim Cook has had at Apple.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_05: So he has overseen in his tenure as CEO the Apple Watch, right?
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, AirPods.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_05: Uh he has expanded services like Apple Pay, Apple TV Plus, Music, right?
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_05: Apple Music.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_05: Their growth in the market has grown 20 times in his tenure as CEO.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: Big shoes to fill.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_01: Big shoes to fill.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_05: This guy, you could I I don't care what the package is, and I don't care what the golden parachute looks like.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_05: You could not pay me to follow that guy any amount of money.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_05: You are setting yourself up for a for failure as a as an adult.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_05: Like you're done.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_05: Because trying to replicate that is gonna be almost impossible.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_05: And so um, but for the for the market, I would assume everybody who you know pays attention to that is gonna keep an eye on Apple.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sure there's probably some, you know, hey, should I keep my stock in Apple or should I get rid of it?
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_05: Because we don't know how this is gonna go.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_05: You know, I'm sure those investors are probably a little cautious.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_05: Uh because again, trying to follow that is gonna be very, very difficult.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_05: Um and and for Apple lovers, you know, you hope that the innovation and the quality of innovation from that company continues.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_05: And again, I'm not an Apple fan, but you can't deny the quality of what they bring to the table that benefits everybody, right?
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and so you know, good on old Tim Cook.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_05: Good luck.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_05: Good luck to the guy that's gonna replace him.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_05: But if you're an Apple investor, um, I would I would watch stock prices very, very now.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_05: This isn't supposed to happen until the first of September, so there may be some more indicators on on the impact of this change, but I'm sure for the summer months, uh, Apple investors are gonna be a little uh leery about what their future looks like.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I you know, I I'm with you.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: I am a diehard Android girl.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care what anybody says, I will not be switching.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I've ever had, I've never had an iPhone.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_01: I've always been Android.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_01: No regrets, bro.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: No regrets.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_05: I had I had an Apple, an iPhone for work, uh a couple of jobs after I retired, and then I had uh I've had some Macs over the years computer-wise, and there's some value to them, but the operating system is so different.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_05: You to me, like I I had an Android for personal use and I had a iPhone for work, and like trying to go back and forth between the two phones was breaks your brain, yeah.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_05: You're definitely one or the other.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_05: You are definitely one or the other.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's no in-between at all.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just can't do it, you know.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: And it started like really early, like back in the iPod days.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: It made me, which I had one of those for a period of time.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: I think everybody did, right?
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I just remember the you know, the annoyance that if um, you know, anything with Android, you could just like reboot it yourself, just reset it, reboot it.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_01: Used to be that you could, I'm going dating myself here.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: You could like take the battery out and put it back in.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, you can do like these things.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: And Apple delete exactly, yeah.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like an Apple, you gotta go to the store and have one of their techie people do it for you.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: So that irritated me to no end.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: And then just watching some of the progressions, and then the next thing that I remember hearing about like my husband has the iPhone and I'm the Android, so it's kind of funny.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but he was telling me that like the new phones, this was a while back already.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: You couldn't just plug in your headphones.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_01: Now you have to get a special adapter for it and all this, like it was like all this drama with it.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I don't have any drama with my phone.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: My phone is nice and easy, nothing, I don't have to do anything special.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_01: And then the last funny thing that I saw with the AirPods, and and and I know like everybody has copied that, you know, there's wireless AirPods for everything, yeah.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: Of course.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but those AirPods, I saw a commercial um that they were selling, it's too funny, selling um straps for them so that you get like hello, hello, so silly, but yeah, so everything old becomes new again, apparently.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, so uh good luck to uh what's his first name?
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know his first name is Tom.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, good luck to him.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, good luck to him.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see what he does.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: He's never gonna win me over, I can tell you that.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_01: So I know that's like his highest priority.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_01: He's like thinking about what can I do to get Elsa current to pie.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_05: Everybody, Elsa's everybody's target audience.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, of course.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_01: I I do, I will say, um, uh, you know, Mac is pretty tempting.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: They're their laptops, their MacBooks, and all that stuff.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's tempting because it is pretty superior to everything, but it's not gonna happen.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: No way.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: What do we got?
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: What else?
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, last one.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, you know what?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: I forgot there was one more before.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there's technically two more.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: Our Andrew, uh, go ahead.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about this.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so folks, this you know, there's uh two incidences in the last week, which is a little bit of uh cause for a pause.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_05: So um at Temple University in Philadelphia, a temple student, and this is not the first incidence at Temple, it's just the most recent one.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_05: A student, which that's a very urban campus.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_05: And if you're not used to an urban campus, obviously you're walking on the streets of Philadelphia, you just happen to be in between buildings that's a temple on the front.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_05: But a a student was chased by nine local teens into a campus building where they physically attacked the student.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_05: And again, this isn't the first time this has happened.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_05: These are just teen mobs, they decide that they're gonna attack somebody, they chase somebody down.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_05: This was a temple student, chased him into a building, beat on him a little bit.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_05: He refused, um, he refused medical care, was claimed to be okay, which gives you a little bit of pause for what's really going on.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_05: But again, this is encroaching into those campuses.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_05: There was a shooting on Saturday night in at University of Iowa, again, just off campus, just in the bar district, which truthfully is one of the safest universities in America.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_05: Literally a block off of campus in the bar district.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, five young men who have been identified as people of interest.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_05: Um, they were in the in and amongst the bars, got into an argument inside one of the bars.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_05: It spilled out into the street, and about 1:45 in the morning, a fist fight ensued, a brawl, and and you know, the bars are getting ready to close, and all these college kids are out on the street, and of course, everybody pours out into the street to watch the fight, and there's crowds of kids around, and there's video footage of you know, students jumping in and trying to stop the fight.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_05: And then, of course, somebody pulls a gun, they start shooting.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_05: Five people end up in the hospital, uh, one critical, four uh stable conditions.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_05: Some of those have even been released.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_05: Three of those were Iowa students.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_05: The five people of interest were not Iowa students, they were not student university students.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_05: Um and so, you know, no arrests have been made, frighteningly enough.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but so there's there's a trend now, and I and I again this goes back to people like, and I'm not blaming him specifically for this one, but people like Mayor Johnson from Chicago, yeah, who are looking at these teen mobs, and this has been happening again, not just in Chicago, but major metro areas, where through social media, you know, teenage kids are saying, Hey, everybody meet it so and so.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_05: You know, you've got cars showing up, kids doing donuts, you've got people ransacking businesses, you've got kids, you know, attacking people on the street for no reason, they're in these large mobs, but you've got a mayor of a major metro area that just says, Oh, he's calling these teen trends.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_05: That's what he's calling, that's how he's referring to them.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_05: Teen trends.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_05: And he's saying, That's insane.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_05: You know, parents, do you do you know, do you know which you should be talking to your children?
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_05: Do you know it's like when we were kids?
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_05: 10 o'clock, yeah.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_05: It's 10 o'clock.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know where your children are?
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and but we're not going to the root of the problem, which goes way deeper than that, right?
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_05: When you've got a mayor who says he's putting some onus on the parents, which I like, okay, sure, yeah.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_05: Totally in support of that.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_05: But when you personally downplay the criminality of what's going on by referring to them as teen trends, um, you're part of the problem.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_05: And and now all you're doing is blame shifting, right?
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_05: When you when you lay it on the parents, which again, I think they bear a lot of this responsibility, but when you're the mayor and you say, you know, hey parents, what are you doing about this?
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_05: And at the same time, you're not doing anything about it as the mayor, you are definitely part of the problem.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_05: So these two cases, the university, and and and my point is from that is that it bleeds, right?
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_05: It bleeds from everywhere.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, you have a very similar environment in the city of Philadelphia.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_05: I live there, I work there, I know this for a fact, right?
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_05: Um, the th the there is a lot of speculation that the that the young gentleman, the five persons of interest that had that contributed to this fight in Iowa that started the shooting, we're all from Chicago.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_05: That is the speculation.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know how much fact is in that, but that's the speculation.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_05: So it bleeds outside of your city, folks.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_05: It it bleeds outside of your, you know, when you've got an environment like that, it doesn't, it's not just a teen trend, right?
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_05: You are advocating or at least ignoring a trend of violence and you're downplaying it and you're just making it worse.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_05: So, you know, I do lay this continually on our political leaders as much as I do the parents um when you're a contributing factor.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_05: So um, listen, folks, if you're key, if you've got kids in college and I do, um, you know, just they they they're gonna grow up faster than any of us did, unfortunately, uh, for a lot of really bad reasons.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_05: But uh, you know, smart decisions.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_05: Don't don't run toward don't run towards the mob, right?
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_05: Right getting away from the mob.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_05: That's uh that's that's probably the best lesson they can all learn.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, when you um, you know, when you're sending your kids off and and it's not even just college camp, it's like you know, high school, it's it's everywhere now where you do, you know, you do need to be talking to them about those scenarios, you know, when and and even listen, even a vibe, if you're feeling you tell your kids, if you feel like something is not right, if you feel like something's just off, that the energy of the place is just feeling off, like you, you know, we're pretty perceptive people.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_01: We just tend to ignore our our instincts, our gut, uh, you know, telling us something is wrong.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: And and you know, tell your kids, man, listen to your instinct of getting away from a situation.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to be there.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, it's a sad, sad world that that's the case that, you know, you actually want to tell your kids.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I just told my daughter, I think we talked about it a little while ago.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_01: My daughter wanted to go to a and she's an adult, you know, she's a mother of four.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_01: She is a grown, grown woman here, not a student.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she wanted to go to a concert, and I was like, oh honey, I just you know, I know I have no say here, but I really wish that you wouldn't.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: And it's a it's a sad world when you know you are discouraging your your child your children, your loved ones, to not do fun things, public crowd related things, because you know what is you know possible of happening.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: And and you could go down a whole different route with this and take it in a different direction, certainly.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but generally speaking, yeah, I mean, this is a different, it's a different time, it's a different world.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you want to do the things certainly go ahead and do them, but um man oh man, head on a swivel, tell your kids head on a swivel, pay attention.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, trust your gut, head on a swivel, go the uh and I you made such a great uh point, Clay.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_01: When you see everybody going that way, you go that way, yeah, and understand the vibe.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_05: Like if there's a ooh, let's let's all go watch this, like yeah, you need to go the other way.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_05: If the vibe is we're all running away from something, then yeah, follow those two.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, excellent clarification.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, but yeah, and and the vibe, believe me, folks, I've been in enough of these.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_05: The vibe is very clear.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_01: You can you can listen, even if you're unobservant like me a lot of times.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, you know, I just I just shut my brain off when my husband's around because I can, because you know, I let his brain do the work.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's actually not true.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_01: I, you know, I find myself now like we're it's actually pretty weird.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_01: Can I tell a quick story?
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I can, and I will.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: We were at the movie theater pretty recently.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_01: We don't go to the movies a lot, but we were there pretty recently.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_01: It was a relatively quiet theater.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_01: It was to see the uh Elvis, latest Elvis movie and irrelevant information, but I'll tell you anyway.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_01: And um, we were in the second to last row from the back, you know, all the way up top towards the back, second to last row.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_01: And behind us to my husband's right, there was a guy sitting by himself.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_01: He had a mask on, it's all dark colors, you know, and he was literally, you know, the man like it's like it's 200, you know, uh 20, whatever.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so right away we both clocked it, you know, and thought that's weird.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_01: And the way that I was sitting, if I turned towards my husband, I had a really good peripheral of the guy.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I and we hadn't even discussed this uh initially.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, we found out afterwards that we both clocked this guy and thought it was just kind of odd.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so I turned my body to kind of face my husband so I could have this guy in my peripheral.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_01: And my in the movie hadn't started yet.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_01: My husband and I are chit-chatting, and and after a minute, my husband goes, you know, does one of those.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm like, yeah, same.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's all it takes now.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know how it is.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's all it takes.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_01: Just, you know, a little like, hmm, okay.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_01: And um, my husband says, Let's go sit in that row.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_01: And we did.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_01: We moved back to that guy's row, sat like one seat in between my husband and him, because his logic was this guy's gonna make a move.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_01: He's not getting far, you know, he's not going far and he's not doing much.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, but it is it's crazy, isn't it?
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like this is how your brain works now when you just know too much stuff.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yes, I I was knocking myself a little bit saying that I I can be oblivious, but I'm not anymore, unfortunately.
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_01: I miss being oblivious.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, all right.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_01: So uh that's somebody's oblivious though.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_05: Somebody's oblivious.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody's a wee bit oblivious.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, let's just talk about the comment section.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I only pulled one today and I happen to catch it kind of like I caught it within I I probably like 15, 10, 15 minutes of this uh person posting it.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_01: And because it was a lot of it's you know, when you hit me with the cap locks, it tends to get my attention.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's not an encouragement, by the way, to to caplop your cap lock your comments, not an encouragement.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, for anybody who doesn't know, when you cap lock, it means you're yelling.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like when you're yelling.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_01: So, but I happened to see it as I was scrolling my phone.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, what is this all about?
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, here's here's what it's all about.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_01: I want to go up.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: Hang on.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_01: Remove, add to stage.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so for those of you listening and not watching, let me read it to you.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_01: It says, You're an idiot.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_01: Just another run-on sentence, guys.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_01: You're an idiot.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_01: Bathroom sports, your Y-O-R, by the way.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_05: Your and the first one is Y-O-U-R.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_05: And not Y-O-U-F-R-E.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_05: So spelled your twice, spelled it wrong twice in two different ways.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_01: Twice.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_01: Beautifully, beautifully.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_01: So your Y-O-U-R an idiot.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_01: Bathrooms, sports, your and idiot.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_01: Y-O-R, and idiot.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's women like you, these are the caplocks.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's women like you that make it hard for women to defend themselves against sex offenders.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_01: I bet if you found yourself in a situation where a man was in the bath separate word room with you and became aggressive, you just might change your mind, sicko.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_01: Sicko, she ended it with.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I so I um I read it like three times because I'm like, is she talking to me?
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_01: Who is she talking to?
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_01: What is even happening here?
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because she cannot possibly be talking to me.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't understand.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_01: So the comment was on a video clip from last week's show where Clay and I were talking about the draft, and the conversation had drifted into whether or not uh women should be included in the draft.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_01: So this was the entire context of that conversation.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_01: Should women be um included in the draft?
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_01: To which I said, well, listen, if you want to be as a woman, if you want to be in all of the quote unquote men's spaces, meaning, you know, active military, the physical part of the military, and all of these things and all the lanes that have been traditionally considered male-dominated fields.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to be included in that, then you gotta be included in this.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like you got to accept that you should be part of the draft.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_01: That was the whole context.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like it was pretty clear in the clip that that's what we were talking about.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_01: It was not clear to this woman.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_01: She um completely misunderstood the whole context of that conversation and was essentially saying, hang on, I gotta look at it again.
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she was essentially saying that I thought that um men should be in women's spaces like uh bathrooms and and things like that, right?
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_01: Am I understanding?
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_05: I I don't I don't know what she was saying.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_05: It was a rant, it was definitely a you know, type it, read it, read it again, edit it, correct things, and then after you think about it a fourth time, then it's said she did none of those things.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_05: She literally spammed it out with her thumbs, hit posts.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_05: This is what you get, folks.
• 1:09:59
  SPEAKER_05: Like, we're we are not in we are not discouraging people from posting.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_05: If you post something like this, you're gonna get mocked.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_01: You're I mean, it's gonna have to happen.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna have to happen.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like you you can't, in all seriousness, call somebody else an idiot when you have not only misunderstood two times, when you have not only misunderstood the entire video that you're commenting on, but also misspelled words twice in it, as you're calling them any Y-O-U-R and idiot.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so my advice would be if you want to comment angrily, I mean uh or us, uh go ahead.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_01: We like we've said many, we can take it, we're fine, but uh just for your own sake, for your own sake, proofread before you hit send.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Just proofread before you hit send.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_01: And if everything still looks good to you, by all means, fire away.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's all good, but yeah, uh, you know, listen, God bless her and um, you know, God bless her.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I could.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I that's all I got.
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_01: It was just amusing.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we, you know, we are tremendously appreciative of the comments that you guys put.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh we both see oftentimes we see those beautiful, wonderful comments where you say that you love the show and you think we're great and you love us and thank us and all of those things.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_01: And we're so profoundly grateful uh to you for doing that.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_01: And and I do, you know, I don't often apologize for things, but I do apologize for kind of more often pointing out these funny, you know, not so nice ones because they're funny, it's entertaining, and you know, it's not to say that we don't appreciate the kindness and that we don't see it because we see it, it means the world, and we're incredibly grateful.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_01: So, Clay, what do you got to say?
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_05: I, you know, I I pop in, I I actually go back and forth between uh Facebook and YouTube when it drops.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_05: I'm I am back and forth between the two, um, and watching the comments and watching how many people are are watching along with us, and and uh I don't always like I always have to scroll, especially Facebook.
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_05: Like I've got to scroll back.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_05: I miss so many comments that I don't catch them all, maybe on the first go round.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but we do appreciate it.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we love watching with you, we love doing it, uh doing this every week with everybody.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_05: And uh, you know, like we said, we will be back again next week, and it'll be a whole new deck of cards, folks.
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_05: Guaranteed.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you guys for watching, and uh, we will see you next week.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Clay, I can't do it.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta have you.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, I forgot.
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I I I started to do it.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, nope, it doesn't feel right.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_01: Can't do it.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta do it.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_05: As always for me, keep moving, keep shooting.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_01: There it is.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_01: All right, guys, take care.
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you next week.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Bye-bye.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_03: The headlines will change by tomorrow, but the patterns won't.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for spending this time with us.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_03: We'll be back to keep asking the harder questions and telling the quieter truths.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_03: Until then, stay grounded, be discerning, and we'll see you next time.