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Free Agency HEATING UP · The 3-0 Take

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  The Mets yet again just grabbing some sloppy seconds from from
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  the Yankees. I mean, this is just a it seems
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  like an annual tradition at this point.
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  And gentlemen, welcome to the three O take where we talk all
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  things Major League Baseball. Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate
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  Reyes. It all starts right now.
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  Welcome back to the Three O Take presented by Chinook Cedry this
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  episode of Five 85. I'll be your host Kyle Kord.
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  I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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  Nate. KCJB how are we?
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  It's a nice little add on. Josh in the corner.
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  Who? Dude, today it officially hit me
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  that I I do miss baseball today. Today was the official day.
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  There's this one, there's a mourning period and then there's
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  like a I'm frustrated period and then there's like a let me see
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  what else is going on in life period.
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  And that's now come to an end. There's nothing else going on in
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  life. And I now miss baseball.
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  I was imagining opening day. That's the first time that I
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  picture opening day is when the wheels start turning for me.
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  That's interesting. I feel like, correct me if I'm
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  wrong, I feel like traditionally you've required a longer mental
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  break than me in the offseason. Isn't that would that be safe to
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  say? It's possible because I feel
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  like I'm usually like ready to go.
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  But this year, I'm not to say that I don't miss baseball, but
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  I'm like, I'm, I'm just, I'm kind of, I'm chilling right now.
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  Like I'm, I'm cool. Like if, if it's, if the season
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  starts tomorrow, that'd be great.
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  But also like, let's just get to, let's just get the
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  Christmas. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm cool.
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  I've been watching a lot of Christmas movies, getting my
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  fix, trying to get ahead of the game because I I I fear that
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  December's going to fly by. It's already like, I don't like
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  how quick it's already moving. That's exactly what Meredith
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  said she's like. It's the third but.
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  It's really like the 12th right now.
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  Yeah, real. Fast 3 days.
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  We're already we're already moving and we're already going
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  in. Then we're flying.
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  We're flying, we're a tenth of the way through.
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  It's good math. Thank you.
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  It's good math. I did all right with fractions.
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  What? What movies have you crossed off
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  the list? Christmas with the cranks.
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  You're a big classic Christmas movie guy.
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  Yes, that's right. We we have the classic.
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  Yeah, black and whites. Well, right.
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  I thought you were going to say like the claymation stuff.
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  I was like, yeah, we have had this conversation before, 'cause
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  I think that's where you. And I are different names freak
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  me out. Yeah, they're weird me out a
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  little bit. Shout out year without a Santa
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  Claus. Yeah, yeah.
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  I mean it's. Reppin no, but we they freak me
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  out. We, I mean, I understand we got,
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  we got Christmas with the cranks.
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  That was the first one I think of, of the of the season.
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  That was a November watch. We.
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  We. Busted that one out early.
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  We've done both Home Alone's. What else have we done well?
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  Both there's there's more than two.
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  No, there's not 2. Relax, relax.
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  There's two that matter. Yeah, you're right.
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  No, I'm just two that matter. Meredith wanted to watch her
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  like a ROM com Christmas movie last night so we did that.
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  Sure, name it. You can name it.
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  While you were sleeping Sandra Bullock Sandra Bullock's a real
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  1 Sandra Bullock. 'S a real one.
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  I've never heard of that though. Is that new?
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  It's one of her earlier films for sure.
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  She's definitely a good bit younger in that movie.
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  I mean relatively. So I think she's probably sounds
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  creepy early 20s. It is.
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  It's a bizarre storyline. She you know what story time
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  real quick. Not I, I won't I won't spoil
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  anything, but there's this like weird triangle between I mean,
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  you'd probably read this on the back of the the movie box, but
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  it's like her, this guy who has a coma or who's in a coma.
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  He has an accent and and goes in a coma and then his brother this
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  weird triangle and it it all it all it all resolves itself in
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  the end. But very bizarre.
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  And we tried to watch Elf but apparently can't find Elf on any
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  streaming service right now so. Not for free.
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  That's fun. Elf not for free.
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  It's worth buying though man. Yeah, with physical copy, so I
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  don't have to buy it ever again because it's a great movie that
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  I'll most certainly watch. But I don't, I don't want to
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  have to pay $4.00 to to watch a movie I've seen a dozen times.
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  Like, let me just can I? I think I know that.
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  Can I exactly? They know.
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  Do you have the ability to watch physical copy movies?
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  Do I have the ability? That guy's still got the VHSDV
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  combo. No, no, no.
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  I've got the OG Xbox, I've got the 360, I've got the place, the
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  what do I have? PS4 I even have a an old PC
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  laptop over here I think has ACD Dr. I I we're we're good we're
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  we're squared away so I'm. So there are ways you can
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  purchase the digital copy and have it everywhere.
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  Sure, but. OK.
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  I'm I'm, I'm trying to get into my physical copy, my physical
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  media I like. That I like that.
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  Because you're hearing about how they're like changed all these
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  movies retroactively now. And I'm like, that's.
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  True if you don't need to pull a receipt.
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  None of that. None of that.
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  Well, not only that, but if the service ever goes away, it's
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  just gone. You don't have it anymore.
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  Exactly. Or if they take it off, yeah.
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  That too. Anyway.
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  I'm only, I'm only the Grinch in so far.
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  Jim Carrey Grinch. Of course, that's worth saying.
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  I will say the new, the new animated Grinch is decent.
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  It is decent. Is it?
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  It's different enough. Yeah.
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  To still be like a an original story in a way.
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  Yeah, I was going to ask like I. Mean it's different enough.
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  OK, OK. Good to know.
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  Still the OG. OG's yeah.
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  Jim Carrey's goat. No, no, no, no.
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  The OG. He's talking like the the true
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  OG animated. True OG.
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  Oh, that one. No, I'm not.
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  I'm not going to watch that one. It's the Jim Carrey version.
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  I don't even recognize the anything before that.
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  Well, that's just. Jim Carrey is.
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  That's ignorant to be the Grinch.
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  That's that's ignorant. Oh, well, I mean, I'll I'll hear
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  you on that, but to to just, I'm not.
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  Watching three different versions of the IT.
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  Completely just disrespect it too.
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  Well yeah, you should have stopped after the OG and the Jim
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  Carrey. We don't.
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  You didn't necessarily need to dabble into the new animated
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  version. You gotta give it a shot.
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  You gotta give it a shot. So, well, then you gotta give
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  the old. Well, you gotta give the old one
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  a shot. Then it's fair.
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  Fair is fair. We know what that is.
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  We know what that is. Oh boy, Nate's in one of these
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  modes tonight. I can already tell.
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  I can already tell. I dodge Page watch Love Actually
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  on the plane, so I dodge that bullet.
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  I don't have to watch that one, which is nice.
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  So do I get credit if my family watches them?
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  I don't, but you don't. I don't think it's.
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  No, I don't. No, I don't, I don't.
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  I don't think that's how that question works.
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  I can't figure this guy out. I'm.
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  Going I'm going for the golfs. I'm going for the golf score.
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  Speaking of watching stuff, I put out a poll on social this
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  week. I said, folks, if you could, if
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  you could show somebody one all time baseball game to make them
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  a fan for life, what game do you show them?
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  So I'll pose the question to you both.
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  So I'm going to pull up. I'm going to pull up some some
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  responses that I thought were pretty good.
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  A lot of a lot of common answers, I'll say in fact, I'll
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  give you I'll give you guys a second.
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  I think that over some of the some of the answers which I
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  don't I don't know what my singular answer would be, but I
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  I would most definitely have a short list that I could probably
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  dwindle it down to like there's a lot of game seven of the 16
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  World Series. Nate, I know that you
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  apparently, which this is news to me as of like a week ago that
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  you just you don't remember World Series matchups like as
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  recent as like 2000. That's just like a a black hole
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  in your baseball. Yes, you know, knowledge base,
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  yes, which is fine. It's it's your it's your blind
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  spot. It's OK.
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  I can. I could probably get 70% of them
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  right from 2000 up until this this past year.
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  It's better than I, I think I. Originally, as far as the way
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  you like, I have. Well, game seven of the 2016
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  World Series. Please tell me you you know who
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  was in that. The 2016. 2016 yeah, is.
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  It the Royals. Think, think.
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  Curse. Oh, the Cubs.
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  Duh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Fair enough. I knew that.
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  I knew that. I knew that.
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  Game seven of the 2016 World Series, there's a lot of those
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  which I would agree. I mean that, I mean, obviously
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  with what was at stake and, and then the delay and all that,
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  that, I mean, that's, that's a great one.
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  A lot of surprise amount of people said Game 7 of this World
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  Series. I was going to say that like I I
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  don't know if that's just recently by so that was one of
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  the greatest games I've ever watched.
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  It's both of those things. Can it?
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  Yeah. Can it be both?
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  Can can we be victims of the moment but also acknowledge that
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  maybe it is even even with enough time passing that maybe
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  we'll look back on it as one of the the games that you would
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  show somebody if you wanted to make him a fan for life, for
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  baseball, Yeah. I think baseball is so
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  interesting in this way that no, like no one game.
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  I even if even if you were to show that game, I still think
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  it's only as good if you set it up first.
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  Like, hey, I have to, I have to tell you the story before we
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  watch this. That then that's why Game 7's
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  hit different, right? Because it's got six games
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  telling the story. That's right up.
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  Until that point. So that's fair.
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  A lot of a lot of game four of the 2004 ALCS, which I mean, how
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  could you not the Kirk Gibson walk off game.
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  We have some some older folks in the in the replies saw some 2001
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  Nate another another another World Series that's near and
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  dear to your heart. Yeah, Game seven of that.
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  Yeah, there was some there. Wait, so are you saying, Nate,
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  that that's your answer right now?
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  Game 7 this month of this World Series?
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  Do you have drag? Do you have drag racing going on
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  outside low office? Low bit I.
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  Do they meet on room? Member, I don't remember what
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  year it was, but living in Colorado I think just kind of
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  had me a little more biased towards this.
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  But when Carlos Gonzalez hit a a walk off home run to complete
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  the cycle, that was pretty sick. That was pretty insane because
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  cargo had the drippiest swing in swag.
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  I mean, top five for me. That one was pretty cool.
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  I was going to say maybe 163. That was in the Rockies.
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  In the Padres, like I think that was pretty insane.
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  The David Freese game? Yeah.
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  The Joe Carter game? Sure.
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  The Bill Buckner game, Yeah. I mean, a lot of the classics,
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  No, Yeah, we don't need to talk about that.
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  It's hard. To go back, if you were, if you
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  were trying to get somebody to be a new fan, like to sit
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  through the 1960 Game 7 sure is like.
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  Which is why I think, which is why I think 2016 the the Cubs
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  went in at all. I think that's a good sweet spot
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  because it's. You can tell that story without
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  having to watch the the games leading up to it.
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  You're like, hey, it's been a million years since they've won.
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  So exactly. Yeah.
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  And everyone knows, I mean, Chicago like it's it's the
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  classic team. I think it's a good answer.
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  It's a very good answer. I think that might be mine for
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  now. I think that's where I'll
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  settle. Yeah, I have to say 2013 Wild
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  Card game in Pittsburgh because I'm a Pirates fan, so I have to
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  say that that was I. Have.
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  To put that that was a starving fan base as well go.
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  Pirates, that is another game that I, I will say that I like
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  there are people that aren't even Pirates fans that are just,
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  you know, fans of game or even not even baseball fans that know
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  a little bit about baseball. They somehow know about that
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  game, like, Oh yeah, that game in Pittsburgh where they were
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  yelling the guy's name and he dropped the ball and bought
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  like, so I, I could I that, that'd be an, that could be an
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  audible mention for me. I mean, that's.
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  AI think it's interesting because like the baseball game
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  itself was is not the reason, but it's that whole the the way
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  the fans were. You buy in more.
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  You know what I mean? So it wasn't it wasn't really
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  the epic game seven that we just saw sure, which is a fantastic
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  baseball game, which would have been a fantastic baseball game.
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  It was on June 3rd. Yeah, yeah.
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  You know, no, I mean, all of the external factors play into it,
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  like the storylines, the build up, the fan environment, all
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  that. So, yeah, I mean, there it's,
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  it's a question that could go many different ways, but I think
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  that's, I think 2016 might be where I settle for now.
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  That's that's where I arrive. All right, let's get into let's
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  get into some news. Feels like it happened a month
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  ago at this point, but that's what happens when you when we
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  hit the offseason and we're going once a week, sometimes
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  we're a little late, but Dylan Cease Blue Jays making actually
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  multiple moves Dylan's but we'll start with Dylan Cease.
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  Dylan Cease has signed A7 year, $210 million contract with the
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  Jays, the Toronto Blue Jays. I think with the way that this
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  post season went, with the way the World Series went and the
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  eagerness in which they're showing as it relates to some of
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  these moves, the the seriousness that it seems as though they're
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  they're they're approaching this off season with have we arrived
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  at the points where we have no choice but to take the Blue Jays
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  seriously moving forward, maybe for an extended period of time,
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  maybe not just the season, but beyond.
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  Probably. I think Boba Shet oddly tells me
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  a story if they bring him back. I think that kind of they're
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  they're almost checking all boxes, right.
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  Let's keep our core and our pillars together while still
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  going out and getting better. But I mean, I like, I look at
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  the, you look at the entire postseason for them and, and
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  especially in the World Series, it feels like they they couldn't
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  have played any better. They they, they maxed out.
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  That's the best they could have played and they still came up
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  short. And that says something about
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  the Dodgers as well, because it's like the Dodgers I felt
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  like got outplayed and yet still won.
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  So they they pressed all the right buttons.
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  They played as well as they could have played, and yet you
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  still came up short. Shows me that like, all right,
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  well, let's go. Let's go figure out what we need
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  to pluck. And I think Cease kind of maybe
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  having like somewhat of a mid year last year, like, you know,
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  especially for what we've seen out of him, like in his
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  standards, it's probably a down year.
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  One could argue that it's maybe somewhat of a bargain still 30
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  million a year. But it's like, I don't know,
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  it's interesting to me that it happened quickly and each guy's
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  different. You know, I'm sure there's guys
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  that are like, yeah, I want to get like, I want to get out of
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  the way. I want to get settled in, like,
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  take advantage of the offseason in my new city and like, get
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  established before spring training, you know what I mean?
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  And then there are some guys that are like, yeah, let's just
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  maximize what these offers can be.
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  And I think there's no doubt that SEES could have gotten
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  similar offers elsewhere. I think it just goes to show you
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  that like, Blue Jays are messing around, but Beau Bichette, I
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  don't know why It's just like that to me, tells me what?
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  Trajectory they're taking. You bring him back and you're
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  committed to all things. Or I or IKF.
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  Definitely not, but the move, I think there's got it.
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  There's probably a conversation about the move, like are are you
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  willing to play second base moving forward?
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  Because Andres Jimenez looked great at short and you know, was
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  the top five glove in in in the game.
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  So like, I wonder if that's a part of the conversation, you
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  know, but it's just it's like a let's commit to our guy.
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  You already done it once with Vladdy.
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  You've now added to your roster pitching which was coming up
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  short. Bring back your guy.
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  Keep the core together. So what I'm hearing you say is
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  your CIS edition is only going to be as good as your Bichette
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  decision as sort of what I'm hearing you say.
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  Say it again. Your CIS edition is only going
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  to be as good as your Bichette decisions.
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  You're saying if you bring Bo back, it's only going to amplify
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  what they're doing this offseason, building off the
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  momentum that they built in October heading into 2026.
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  It sounds like you're saying they're connected.
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  Yeah, in a way, I think it's just like the overall offseason
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  for me. If the the the grade that I
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  would give the Blue Jays is going to, I think it's important
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  to bring back Boba Shet. I would agree.
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  Just for what he means for the team and and he had a great year
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  last year. I knew he was hurt and like
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  missed most of the postseason, but he started fantastic year.
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  Then he's he brings an element to that lineup.
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  That is exactly what we all witnessed.
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  It's like you guys put the ball in play, you don't strike out
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  and I don't know, he's just he's been there and I could I to have
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  like 2 cornerstone pieces that came up in the organization
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  together. It's like, I don't know, it's
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  just like it's a well established.
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  Game plan I guess. Execute it.
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  Another thing on sieves, I don't think I realized how checkered
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  his success was. How like the the pattern is
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  crazy. He finished I I think it was in
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  2022 and 24. He finished what, 2nd and 4th
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  respectively in the Cy Young and then in 23 and 25 was well below
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  500 for those that care about that and had an ERA of like 4
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  1/2 I think. Or 58 and 455.
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  Yeah, just like so you could argue if that's if that's his
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  MO, then maybe do for a bounce back.
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  But I, I'm always, and I've said this before, I'm always
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  interested and it is a case by case situation, of course, but
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  I'm always curious to see how being in a situation where your,
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  your future is uncertain. I'm always curious how that
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  impacts a guy and a guy like Dylan sees who I just feel like
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  for the last three, three years, we could probably call it has
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  just been constantly in the news on the block.
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  What's it like? What's what's happening with
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  this guy? Could he end up elsewhere?
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  He's in, he's being pursued by XY and Z teams and I just wonder
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  how how that how that has has impacted his ability to just be
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  where his feet are and maybe having a little bit of long term
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  security now. Maybe he's in the decision of
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  like committing this. Early, right, which is what I
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  was going to say, combined with the fact that it's a long it's
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  it's a long term. He did it early.
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  Like you said, Nate, get get get in and and get after it.
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  I, I think we, we could be, we could be on the on the cusp of
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  a, of a bounce back for C. So that should be interesting to
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  see Another move they made. Cody Ponce three-year, $30
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  million deal. Bringing them over from the KBO
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  was the KB OS MVP, going 17 and one with A189252 strikeouts with
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  41 walks and 180 and 2/3 innings for the Hanwa Eagles.
• 22:51
  Look, I mean JB, don't get mad at me.
• 22:55
  No disrespect. I've never heard of this guy.
• 22:58
  I've never heard of him. I like good for you of what you
• 23:01
  did over the pond, but like I I've never heard of this guy.
• 23:08
  Have you? Did you hear about this guy?
• 23:10
  Did you know who this guy was before pre MVP of a different
• 23:14
  league? Did you know who he was?
• 23:15
  Is talking to me, yeah. No, no, no.
• 23:19
  Why is, I don't know why. It's getting like it's being
• 23:22
  talked about a lot. No doubt.
• 23:24
  And and which is. Cool, because like, I love a
• 23:27
  story of like, Oh. Love a good like KBO success
• 23:30
  story. Couldn't make it MLB.
• 23:33
  Go reinvent yourself in another league.
• 23:35
  Now you have an opportunity to come back.
• 23:37
  Dope, cool story. I I just, I've never heard of
• 23:40
  the guy. I don't.
• 23:42
  What's what's kind of blowing my mind on this is usually when a
• 23:46
  when a move like this is made and a team makes.
• 23:50
  I mean, I I use air quotes makes a splash.
• 23:52
  They go over and get a guy for bring them back from the KBO.
• 23:56
  It's never for more than like. $12.00 Yeah.
• 24:03
  I was going to say like, like talking serious though, like Max
• 24:07
  like 10, twelve, $15 million. When I saw $30 million, I'm
• 24:13
  like, granted, it's an AV of 10, but I'm like that's still a
• 24:17
  somewhat of a hefty price tag for a guy that clearly just
• 24:21
  don't know ball as as it relates to Cody Ponts.
• 24:24
  No disrespect, but when I saw the move, I was like, well, it
• 24:30
  seems like the Jays are serious, but I just don't entirely know
• 24:33
  what this move means for them. I don't know, Josh.
• 24:38
  Tell us about him. He's a He's a pirate.
• 24:40
  Yeah, he was the guy that yeah, he was the guy that we got in a
• 24:43
  in a trade with Milwaukee. I think it was Jordan Lyles.
• 24:48
  And there we go. Listen to this.
• 24:50
  Listen, there's not a lot of good to talk about.
• 24:52
  When he was with the Pirates, there was he's got stuff and he
• 24:56
  had stuff. The stuff was always there.
• 25:00
  But I mean, he didn't make it. I got it.
• 25:05
  Well, obviously, because he just.
• 25:06
  Yeah, he's obviously 29 starts. I mean those numbers in the KBO
• 25:09
  or no joke, where do you, where do you have the KBO?
• 25:12
  That would be my question. Is it somewhere between AA and
• 25:15
  AAA? Do you think it's higher than
• 25:17
  that like that? I guess that's my question
• 25:21
  because I mean he had a 270 ERA in Japan in 24, but that was in
• 25:25
  there. I looked it up before we talked
• 25:27
  about that was in their minor league, the Japan, the Japanese
• 25:30
  minor league. When he when he was in the
• 25:33
  actual like Pacific League, he had a 672 ERA.
• 25:38
  So like this is one year of this one year in the KBO.
• 25:42
  Those numbers are no joke. 181 innings, 252 strikeouts with a
• 25:48
  0.9 WHIP is is fantastic. Yeah, three years.
• 25:52
  Just nuts. Man, I I don't know.
• 25:55
  I would. Have given the guy three years
• 25:58
  6,000,000 and I'm sure he would have said yes to that.
• 26:01
  I you're giving me a guarantee to come back and pitch for
• 26:06
  stuff. Something that matters like 30
• 26:09
  mil has got to be an overpay. He's married to George Kittle's
• 26:14
  sister. There's I don't know why
• 26:16
  everybody wants to bring that up, but we may as well.
• 26:19
  Everybody else does. How does so so many people know
• 26:23
  about this guy and I've never heard of him before?
• 26:25
  I don't. God forbid a white guy gets a
• 26:27
  little motion. Well, and Ryan and Ryan Weiss,
• 26:32
  it was his teammate over there and the KBO also just signed
• 26:36
  with I already forgot. I don't think it matters that
• 26:41
  much. I Yeah, I'm.
• 26:42
  Just not. I'm just going to call a spade
• 26:47
  a. Spade here.
• 26:48
  Oh my gosh, brother. Yeah, no, he and.
• 26:57
  The thing is too, I I've heard of him because my team traded
• 27:01
  for him right before he left the league, you know, I mean.
• 27:04
  That's I can, yeah, I I get it. I.
• 27:05
  Didn't hear about him when he was pitching with Milwash.
• 27:11
  I get it, I get it. I mean, I, I understand.
• 27:13
  I'm just like I so many details have come out about this guy.
• 27:17
  Our our group chat was blowing up about him today and I'm like
• 27:21
  I've never heard of this joker and and.
• 27:25
  No, you know what, Nate, you're right.
• 27:27
  Let's stand our ground. Forget the whole like, oh, you
• 27:30
  don't know ball. No, shut up to anybody who's
• 27:33
  going to sit here and act like they have like Cody Ponce's
• 27:36
  resume in their notes app, like ready at any moment to just
• 27:40
  like, let RIP in a party. Relax.
• 27:42
  Staying up till 3:00 AM to watch some some starts over in the
• 27:45
  KBL. Yeah, who's watching?
• 27:46
  Who's watching? Cody Ponce's highlights mixtape?
• 27:50
  Relax. OK, In fact, you know what, I'm
• 27:53
  going to no disrespect, this is this is no slight to Cody Ponce,
• 27:58
  but I'm going to look. I'm going to go to YouTube.
• 28:00
  I'm going to type in Cody Ponce highlights.
• 28:07
  Can we watch them? Can you throw it up?
• 28:08
  No, I'm not going to throw it up.
• 28:10
  While you're looking that up, let let me just let me just say
• 28:13
  like we we read off the the Cody Ponce numbers, right?
• 28:17
  Ryan Weiss last year in the KBO same team had a 287 ERA and 30
• 28:23
  starts in 178 innings, which is like the same, right?
• 28:26
  Not as many strikeouts, slightly high, like 1.02 wit like still
• 28:32
  fantastic. And he was good the year before,
• 28:34
  right? The Astros signed this guy to a
• 28:37
  one year deal guaranteeing him Major League deal guaranteeing
• 28:40
  him 2.6 million. Bang that's a that deal makes
• 28:44
  sense and honestly, somebody should go get this pitching
• 28:47
  coach because he's clearly the common denominator here.
• 28:51
  So I three years 30 is just absurd.
• 28:55
  I, I don't understand that. I, I don't know what I mean.
• 28:59
  He's probably going to dice. I don't know, like.
• 29:03
  Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of all caps YouTube video titles.
• 29:08
  So apparently this is a huge deal that we apparently just
• 29:10
  missed the boat on, but we're going to talk about another deal
• 29:13
  now. Enough Jay's talk.
• 29:15
  Let's talk. I'll talk.
• 29:18
  New York Mets Devin Williams. Yankee legend Devin Williams has
• 29:25
  reluctantly moved across town, just dismantled the the Yankees
• 29:32
  organization, the Yankees franchise, brick by brick.
• 29:36
  Lost this the division. And then that that's I mean, I
• 29:41
  was just talking about the beard thing, but you're right, he
• 29:43
  actually he was kind of booty cheeks too.
• 29:45
  So this is like a multi faceted dismantling.
• 29:49
  So good. Good on you for bringing that
• 29:50
  up. Just comes in for a year, says I
• 29:56
  don't like the way things are are going around here.
• 29:59
  I'm going to mix things up. Does the things we just
• 30:02
  mentioned and then says I'm I'm heading across town.
• 30:05
  So how how do you feel, Nate, about losing a pinstripe legend
• 30:11
  three-year, three-year, $51 million deal with the Mets?
• 30:17
  This has to hurt. Oh I'm devastated.
• 30:20
  You have to be losing sleep night after night.
• 30:23
  Devastated. By the way, side tangent, the
• 30:26
  amount of people on social media that's spelled losing with two
• 30:30
  O's blows my mind. It's horrendous.
• 30:37
  Why is it it's so common anyway? The Mets yet again just grabbing
• 30:44
  some sloppy seconds from from the Yankees.
• 30:46
  I mean, this is just a seems like an annual tradition at this
• 30:51
  point. Enjoy.
• 30:55
  I don't know, like we the guy was awful.
• 30:58
  He was, he was miserable and he has like the worst body language
• 31:04
  I've ever seen on, on a, on a any pitcher ever on a mound
• 31:08
  before. That's that's so far.
• 31:12
  So far from being. Correct.
• 31:15
  Watch any highlights in a Yu and you're like, somebody kick this
• 31:26
  guy's dog every day in front of him.
• 31:30
  The guy was just beaten down. The man punted Baxter.
• 31:38
  Good movie, just high maintenance and refused.
• 31:45
  To Did he attend the school of Marcus Stroman?
• 31:49
  Probably there's a little bit of that rubbed off, I believe a
• 31:53
  little bit of that. Was he a student?
• 31:56
  There he's just soft with AW, like SAWFT soft.
• 32:01
  Oh. Yeah.
• 32:03
  Yeah, you're going to. You're going to sign your name
• 32:04
  to that take. Yes, Devin Williams.
• 32:09
  And spelling right after telling everybody they spelled losing
• 32:12
  wrong. SAWFT SWFT see ya, have fun.
• 32:18
  I don't like what you think the the lights aren't as bright over
• 32:22
  there like it. Mets fans are miserable.
• 32:27
  Well, I mean, I'm a Red Sox fan and I can even acknowledge that
• 32:32
  the lights aren't as bright in Queens.
• 32:33
  Who are we kidding? But there's who are we kidding?
• 32:36
  It's still it's still the added pressure.
• 32:38
  It's still you guys suck. It's still the oh, all this
• 32:42
  money, like I I don't know, I good luck.
• 32:45
  I don't he's he's was awful as a closer.
• 32:49
  The only way he was like somewhat manageable down the
• 32:54
  stretch is because like they had to pick and choose when they
• 32:57
  used him and it it was as a setup man, if not more like a
• 33:02
  middle relief. Like he was awful.
• 33:06
  I don't, I don't know, maybe that's maybe it was a fluke.
• 33:10
  I don't know. But like, but clearly there's a
• 33:15
  disconnect. Something in the water in
• 33:18
  Milwaukee, I guess. I don't know, That's like maybe
• 33:21
  that's the like the stuff in Space Jam, you know, special
• 33:26
  stuff, not the New York water. Good for bagels, bad for Devin
• 33:35
  Williams. Realistically though, you think
• 33:41
  based on what you saw, you think I mean like what do you think
• 33:49
  happens with the Mets? Do you do you think it ends up
• 33:52
  better for him there than in the Bronx?
• 33:54
  Do you think it's going to be more of the same?
• 33:57
  Do you think it's going to somehow be worse because it's
• 33:59
  the Mets? I don't, I, it's hard to say
• 34:04
  because like, like we just had this conversation about like
• 34:06
  Sonny Gray, like there, there's certain pictures that like the
• 34:09
  philosophy just doesn't work in certain places.
• 34:12
  And like, the Yankees are very specific about how they go about
• 34:16
  their pitching philosophy. And some guys fit and some guys
• 34:20
  don't. And I maybe I mean, he he
• 34:28
  complained about the, the pitch calling for a while.
• 34:31
  And it was the first few months of, you know, not agreeing.
• 34:34
  And then he puts the little thing on his belt and he starts
• 34:37
  calling pitches. And it's like, well, now what?
• 34:40
  You're calling your own pitches and you still suck.
• 34:41
  And like, I don't, I don't know what we what we.
• 34:46
  Yeah, the guy. What a waste.
• 34:48
  Honestly. Bring back the beard policy just
• 34:51
  because of this. Well, I'm glad you brought that
• 34:54
  up because I was, I was going to if you didn't.
• 34:56
  Is that, is there any what? What's the deal there?
• 34:58
  Are they? Is it?
• 34:59
  Is there a realistic chance they bring this thing back?
• 35:02
  I freaking hope so. Well, when you say beard policy,
• 35:04
  you mean no, no facial hair. Facial hair policy, yeah, but
• 35:09
  yeah is. The what the The Yankees said
• 35:12
  that they had been having this discussion for years and that
• 35:17
  how had been approaching different people in the
• 35:19
  organization to get their opinion players.
• 35:22
  And then it really kind of said something when Devin Williams
• 35:26
  came over and was like, hey, like just a heads up.
• 35:31
  Like I'm not about it. And I'm pretty sure there's
• 35:33
  other guys in the league that like specifically will say no to
• 35:36
  coming here because of this. Which in my mind.
• 35:40
  I, I don't know how you don't know that, right?
• 35:43
  So I, I don't know, I, I know everyone's like, oh, it's they
• 35:48
  changed the policy for him. I, it's hard to say.
• 35:50
  I don't know, I don't really care.
• 35:52
  I I I'm glad he's gone. As a as a, as a non Yankee fan,
• 35:57
  I got to say it would have. I don't know.
• 36:06
  We've, we've had this conversation, like what we, we
• 36:08
  talked about it when they made the announcement that they are
• 36:10
  getting rid of the rule. Yeah, but I had to, and I, I
• 36:13
  feel like I said this back when they announced it, that even
• 36:17
  though personally I think it's, I think it's fine to have facial
• 36:22
  hair and play baseball at the Major League level.
• 36:24
  I do think it is unique that the Yankees have that.
• 36:28
  I think that it's unique that they've had it for what, almost
• 36:30
  50 years? However, I feel like it would
• 36:35
  have been a little more interesting if the year they did
• 36:40
  it would have been their World Series run well technically last
• 36:45
  year, but two seasons ago now 2024.
• 36:49
  And I'm like OK, like this is interesting.
• 36:51
  Maybe it like effects? You know.
• 36:53
  Yeah, maybe there's something there, but they do it in a year
• 36:57
  when nothing happens ultimately, and it's prompted by a guy
• 37:03
  that's now playing across the street a year later.
• 37:06
  That's that's what's so funny. Like this to me is a thing that
• 37:10
  would happen to the Mets, ironically enough.
• 37:12
  Like this just seems like it would be some a little bit of an
• 37:15
  identity crisis. Yeah, that's the Mets, just
• 37:17
  Mets. And but yeah, it it happened to
• 37:19
  the Yankees. So that's what's interesting.
• 37:21
  I mean, look, it's. I think Devin Williams catfished
• 37:26
  a lot of people. I think we thought that guy had
• 37:30
  a tough jawline and then that beard went away.
• 37:33
  It was like your chin. You got a soft chin, guy, and
• 37:38
  now we can see. AWF.
• 37:41
  T Yeah. And now we can see that like
• 37:44
  you're, you're kind of soft because of this, you've been
• 37:48
  outed. Hence, you know, the poor
• 37:50
  performance. I think that explains all of it.
• 37:53
  Wow. Bring the bring the policy back.
• 37:55
  Honestly, I I think that's funny.
• 38:00
  Devin Williams added the newest name on Nate's list.
• 38:07
  The list doesn't even have a name, but it's.
• 38:09
  It's this list. We had the same record as the
• 38:11
  Blue Jays and that guy blew like 17 games last year.
• 38:15
  So I buy, enjoy I was. Genuine, it got to the point it
• 38:24
  was so bad. I got to the point where I was I
• 38:26
  was excited when Devin Williams was getting was getting the
• 38:30
  call. It was insane.
• 38:33
  I was like, how, how creatively are they going to lose this game
• 38:36
  it. Took so long to take him out of
• 38:39
  that spot and I didn't understand why because he was a
• 38:43
  rental. That was nuts.
• 38:50
  Another reliever from the aforementioned Mets?
• 38:55
  Ryan Helsley. I'll be at a short stay heading
• 38:58
  to Baltimore on a 2 year deal worth $28 million with an opt
• 39:04
  out after the first season. Talking about a guy that was
• 39:09
  kind of booty cheeks his what was it his last two months, I
• 39:14
  believe posted A-772-O that's. The start of my phone number.
• 39:23
  Sure is don't I don't want to doxy JB.
• 39:29
  Didn't want me to put it out there.
• 39:31
  No. I'll put it out there, I'll put
• 39:36
  it out there, posted a 720. Millions of people watching.
• 39:42
  Posted a 720. 202. Relax guy, relax.
• 39:56
  So I don't know, we've been we, I'm going to keep, I'm going to
• 40:03
  keep saying it. We've been clamoring.
• 40:05
  I I won't speak for you, but I've been clamoring for the
• 40:08
  Orioles to just make some moves. And I'm not talking about no
• 40:15
  disrespect, I'm not talking about Tyler O'Neill like I'm
• 40:19
  talking actual long term moves, not a Corbin Burns.
• 40:26
  As great as that worked out for them, at least in the short
• 40:29
  term, I'm talking substantial long term moves to where you're
• 40:39
  spending money, you're spending your your your prospect capital
• 40:44
  that you so obviously have and the league knows it to improve
• 40:50
  your Major League ready team at the Major League level now like.
• 40:59
  Yeah, stop doing lottery tickets.
• 41:00
  This and I'm stupid. No, I mean, I'm not like I know
• 41:03
  I said all that to it may sound like I'm knocking this move.
• 41:06
  It's not that I'm knocking this move, but it's like, OK, this
• 41:11
  and what else? Like what else are you planning
• 41:13
  to do? Because I'll be honest, I
• 41:15
  haven't heard, I haven't heard the O's really seriously
• 41:21
  connected to much of anything this offseason.
• 41:25
  And I, I, I know I've said it before, I've pretty much done a,
• 41:32
  I've, I've done a pretty good job of staying out of the rumor
• 41:35
  mills, you know, staying out of the, the nonsense in a little.
• 41:39
  Bit. I'm, I know it's a slippery
• 41:42
  slope. I understand that right?
• 41:45
  So I'm doing what I can to stay away from that slope because I
• 41:48
  know the second I look over the edge, it's all it's literally
• 41:52
  downhill from there. But even for the stuff I've seen
• 41:56
  it, you know, high level stuff, I'm not really seeing them tied
• 42:01
  to much. So it's like if you're not even
• 42:04
  like this is the time where everybody seems to be tied to
• 42:08
  every team is tied to everybody. And if you're not really in the
• 42:10
  mix, even at this stage of the game, what is that to?
• 42:14
  I know you're not, I know you're not working in the shadows
• 42:17
  because you haven't given us any reason to believe that that's
• 42:20
  what you're doing right now. So what else?
• 42:24
  What else is there to do? What else are you going to do?
• 42:27
  And I don't, I just don't. I'm not.
• 42:29
  I'm not filled with much hope if I'm an Orioles fan.
• 42:33
  Me neither. I don't like it.
• 42:36
  I don't like, I don't like the way they've been operating for
• 42:38
  the last year and a half doesn't make any sense.
• 42:43
  You have a bunch of pieces. You have only so many guys that
• 42:49
  you can play and you're like Gary Sanchez.
• 42:57
  Let's do that. Tyler O'Neill.
• 43:01
  Feminist. Like what?
• 43:04
  Dude, forgot about that name. How?
• 43:06
  About that poll. That's absurd.
• 43:08
  What are we doing? Go get people.
• 43:11
  I don't. I'm lost.
• 43:16
  Is is Adley Reichman broken? He.
• 43:20
  He seems to be. A shell of himself What's going
• 43:23
  on in Baltimore? What's going on in Boston?
• 43:30
  Sonny Gray. Just I don't know, man.
• 43:35
  This guy's a clown Oh my. I hate this.
• 43:38
  You know it, too. You know he's a clown.
• 43:40
  I know I well, I'm not I'm not going to agree with you as a
• 43:43
  clown, but I'll I'll agree with you in that I I just don't like
• 43:47
  this. I wasn't a fan of this the whole
• 43:53
  and I'll have to Josh. Maybe you can pull him up or
• 43:56
  Nate, if you're familiar with what with the receipts that are
• 43:58
  being pulled. Apparently, apparently Yankee
• 44:01
  fans are clapping back with their seats.
• 44:02
  I didn't get that far into the end of the game with this whole
• 44:05
  situation, but I did I I saw the comments that he made.
• 44:09
  He said quote. It feels good to me to go to and
• 44:12
  for those, if you've been living under a rock, Sonny Gray sign
• 44:14
  with the Red Sox recently and after the fact, I think after it
• 44:20
  was made official, was talking about, you know, how it, how it
• 44:22
  feels to be here and yadda, yadda, yadda, and was talking
• 44:25
  about his stint with the Yankees.
• 44:26
  He said it feels good to me to go to a place now where, you
• 44:28
  know what, it's easy to hate the Yankees, right?
• 44:31
  The Yankees stint just wasn't a good situation for me.
• 44:34
  It wasn't a great setup for me and my family.
• 44:37
  I never wanted to go there in the 1st place when that was
• 44:40
  happening and we were in Oakland and getting traded.
• 44:43
  That was a long time ago. I never wanted to go there.
• 44:45
  So so then I was there with the Yankees and it just didn't
• 44:49
  really work for who I am. But the the line that's being,
• 44:53
  you know, hyper fixated on is the part where he says I never
• 44:59
  wanted to go there in the first place.
• 45:03
  Why why he wants to sauce. No, he doesn't.
• 45:10
  He he's Sonny Gray. He doesn't he's he's not about
• 45:13
  that. He he's this only puts an
• 45:18
  unnecessary target on his back for I don't know the wrong
• 45:24
  reasons. It just it, this seems so
• 45:26
  pointless. Like there's no, I'm all for a
• 45:29
  guy coming in and and trying to like rile up the, the, you know,
• 45:36
  the fan base in the city and all that.
• 45:38
  I I get that, but like just do it in a way that resonates with
• 45:46
  those people and not like this. Like when Martine Perez came
• 45:50
  into town, he was quoted, I don't know if it was on Carabas
• 45:54
  podcast or some other media outlet, but he was, he was like,
• 45:58
  you know what? F the Yankees.
• 46:00
  And everybody was getting all hyped up because like, all
• 46:02
  right, yeah, this guy just comes in.
• 46:03
  He's he's going to try to, you know, light up the Yankees when
• 46:06
  he's on the bump. I'm like, OK, that's fine.
• 46:09
  Like you come in, you make it clear they're like, OK, I don't
• 46:11
  really like the Yankees, but to go in and like and and reference
• 46:15
  the time that you were there and try to like rewrite history like
• 46:19
  I'm it just wasn't sitting right with me.
• 46:22
  And I'm like that you could have easily just not taken this route
• 46:26
  and just avoided this. And now it's a story and now
• 46:29
  people are talking about it. And now it's going to carry into
• 46:32
  the 2026 season, no doubt. But then what I was saying
• 46:35
  earlier is there was apparently people pulling receipts from
• 46:38
  things he had said, I guess while he was in New York or when
• 46:41
  he got, you know, when he, when he got moved there.
• 46:44
  I don't know. I didn't go that far back.
• 46:46
  I don't remember what he said. Did he?
• 46:48
  Did he say he enjoyed it when he was there?
• 46:50
  I don't know. There was something about
• 46:52
  because it got further into this same interview where he said all
• 46:56
  this stuff the the last couple days, 'cause he was wearing a
• 46:59
  2007 World Series hat, which again, if you don't know, the
• 47:04
  Red Sox won. How did they win that one?
• 47:07
  Remember that one? How did they win that?
• 47:08
  One swept the Rockies. I sure did.
• 47:10
  Yep, Yep, Yep. He had talked about how he loved
• 47:17
  the 2007 World Series team and that he followed because he was
• 47:21
  in high school and he followed them and it was like a big deal
• 47:26
  for him. Well, the the receipts that are
• 47:29
  coming out is when right after he got traded to the Yankees, he
• 47:32
  did the same thing and said the same thing about the two 2009
• 47:35
  World Series with CC and AJ Burnett and how he loved to
• 47:39
  witness that. And they said he loved New York.
• 47:43
  He was happy to that he landed there like it during his press
• 47:46
  conference. So it's like you're just running
• 47:49
  it back. But now, like why don't you just
• 47:51
  admit that you sucked like you weren't good and it was a bad
• 47:55
  like it's fine to say it's a bad fit.
• 47:57
  There's nothing wrong with that. I appreciate players kind of
• 48:00
  putting the PC answer and like the copy paste answer to the
• 48:04
  side and actually being honest, have some accountability.
• 48:07
  Exactly. Don't don't like manufacture
• 48:09
  this like weird. Like I hated it there.
• 48:13
  I always hated it. It's like you just sound like a
• 48:16
  child at this point. So good luck.
• 48:19
  I It's going to be interesting. I don't like the honestly, now
• 48:24
  that now that you're talking about it, like with the
• 48:25
  manufacturing element of it, that combined with, with, with
• 48:30
  Schlittler, there's there's too much manufacturing going on with
• 48:35
  this rivalry. We need like.
• 48:36
  Schlitz, a dog. I like him.
• 48:39
  OK, Yeah, we'll also soft. We'll see about that.
• 48:43
  What? No, you know what's going to
• 48:44
  happen? You know, what's going to happen
• 48:46
  with that is now that Devers is out of the equation, Kohl's,
• 48:51
  Garrett, Garrett Cole's in the clear.
• 48:54
  Now we're just going to have to figure out who on this current
• 48:56
  Red Sox team is going to fill Rafi's role.
• 49:00
  And now Schlittler is going to be the new Cole and he's going
• 49:03
  to pair up with the with the Red Sox bat that's just going to own
• 49:06
  him for the next 4, however many years.
• 49:09
  That's what's inevitably going to happen.
• 49:10
  But that's besides the point. There's too much manufacturing
• 49:13
  going on in this rivalry now, and it should, it should never
• 49:17
  be that way. There's no need to manufacture
• 49:20
  like. There's too much.
• 49:23
  I hate in the in the equation here that none of that should be
• 49:26
  happening. Well, we talked about it like I
• 49:28
  think last year, I don't remember specifically who, but
• 49:33
  I'm just we're, I'm just very over the like, Oh, here's a
• 49:36
  picture of me as a kid in Little League wearing this team.
• 49:40
  Like I've been, I've been rooting for this team since I.
• 49:42
  Was I said you had a choice. But it's like, OK dude,
• 49:45
  whatever. Like I, we've all played on
• 49:49
  stupid teams when we were in Little League and there's bound
• 49:53
  to be a year that ends up being correlating with like where we
• 49:56
  are in real life. You know what I mean?
• 49:58
  It's like, well. For the record, for the record,
• 50:00
  my first ever T-ball team, I was a Philly and I am an honorary
• 50:06
  Phillies fan, so. I was a Rocky.
• 50:09
  I'm an honorary Rocky fan. There you go.
• 50:12
  I was a Cardinal a lot. A lot.
• 50:17
  We sure were. We we shared many, many, yeah,
• 50:23
  many teams. Were in Astro.
• 50:26
  Yeah, man, if, if I ever, if I pulled a rookie and I I made it
• 50:30
  to the bigs at 40 and they they wanted to pull a a picture, I'll
• 50:35
  try it out. I'll try it out.
• 50:37
  If they wanted to pull a Little League picture, I've got plenty
• 50:40
  of teams they could choose from. I was a member of the White Sox.
• 50:44
  I was a Diamondback. I was a Astro As.
• 50:48
  Well, yeah. That was the purple and teal.
• 50:51
  That was, that was nice. Real nice, yeah.
• 50:55
  Orioles, Cubs, Mariners. I was an oriole.
• 50:59
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Was a national and a giant.
• 51:07
  I was also Blue Jay. Crazy, I don't even remember
• 51:11
  there being a Blue Jay and. I was, I was, I was young.
• 51:15
  I was young, young days. I was a Ranger.
• 51:17
  I, I mean, I, I covered, I covered my bases.
• 51:20
  Man, I see when I'm like enough stop trying to dig up and like
• 51:24
  it's, it's, it's stupid. Just go this is like your fifth
• 51:30
  team. Just go say I want to help this
• 51:33
  team win. And like, and you know, I didn't
• 51:37
  like my time in New York. I didn't do well.
• 51:39
  And you know, I'm excited to go pitch there again now that I've
• 51:44
  developed into who I am. You know what I mean?
• 51:47
  Like I don't something it's it's very easy to to throw shade
• 51:51
  subtly versus like this like weird.
• 51:54
  Like I actually never liked it there and I never wanted to go
• 51:58
  there. OK bro, sounds good.
• 52:03
  Speaking of helping A-Team, a guy that most likely won't even
• 52:08
  have to worry about doing that this year, Anthony Rendon, the
• 52:13
  Angels are talking about buying out this last year of his
• 52:20
  contract. Sorry that I mean, that was that
• 52:25
  was a little disrespectful. I'm sorry.
• 52:28
  I think it was right on. But I'm kind of over it, kind of
• 52:32
  over it. Go away.
• 52:34
  I'm super tired of this. Angels are talking about buying
• 52:36
  out the last $38 million. What's the I guess?
• 52:44
  He's appeared in 205 of the 810 games, 205 out of 810 games.
• 52:57
  Anthony Rendon also vocally being like baseball's not the
• 53:01
  most important thing. It's like, OK, guy sounds good.
• 53:10
  What what's the buyout? I don't I fill me in here.
• 53:15
  I guess maybe I don't know ball what I don't understand the
• 53:18
  whole like, can we just release him?
• 53:21
  I know the money's guaranteed, but like what's the advantage of
• 53:23
  buying him out versus just releasing him?
• 53:28
  I don't. I guess I just don't know the
• 53:29
  difference really. I don't know how, like I don't
• 53:35
  know how the the details of that process fall into into place,
• 53:40
  but the the angels and Boris would have to finalize it.
• 53:45
  So it's more I think it's more complex than it just then
• 53:49
  something being triggered and then it him just riding off into
• 53:53
  the sunset. I think there has to be a a more
• 53:58
  intense conversation that has to follow suit.
• 54:02
  Once Upon a time, I feel like I heard something.
• 54:05
  I don't know if it's true or not, but do teams take out like
• 54:12
  insurance policies on these contracts?
• 54:17
  You know what I mean? This is a conversation that we
• 54:21
  had, where we talked, where. We talked about.
• 54:23
  This where we said that it should be something that happens
• 54:26
  but that it doesn't. Or or does it?
• 54:28
  I think they can. I think they have.
• 54:32
  It's just not as it's not a an everyday occurrence necessarily.
• 54:35
  Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
• 54:39
  I don't really know. You know what it was we had, I
• 54:42
  think we had this conversation when Strat, when that Strasburg
• 54:46
  saga was going down, when they were just like, yeah, actually,
• 54:49
  no, we're we don't really like you anymore.
• 54:52
  See ya. That was weird.
• 54:53
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's when we when we
• 54:57
  revisited this conversation. I, I, I want to say that that's
• 55:00
  a thing. I I have a feeling it's a thing,
• 55:08
  but like the most head and most hated man in baseball,
• 55:11
  potentially I. Mean I.
• 55:16
  Mean he doesn't. Like baseball?
• 55:18
  Yeah. Yeah, so hate and baseball go
• 55:22
  together in the same sentence when it comes to Anthony
• 55:25
  Randone, I guess you could say. But I mean, worst contract for
• 55:29
  sure. Yeah, without a doubt.
• 55:32
  Right. I mean, yeah.
• 55:35
  I think so. Played 1/4 of the games.
• 55:40
  Not even. 200 and I'll say it again, 205 out of 810 games over
• 55:48
  the past five seasons, that's terrible.
• 55:55
  And like you said, if you threw in some some bites over the last
• 55:59
  few years of him being like nothing more, like I love
• 56:05
  nothing more than this game. I mean, obviously taking into
• 56:07
  account family and all that, but you know the guy, you've heard
• 56:10
  guys come by like, I love this game, man.
• 56:13
  Nothing in this world means more to me than just going out there,
• 56:16
  just giving it all for my team, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 56:19
  I just don't feel like we really got that sentiment.
• 56:22
  And even if we did, it wasn't commonplace enough given the
• 56:26
  circumstances. The things that stood out were
• 56:30
  the the, you remember the year where they like didn't disclose
• 56:35
  the injury or something and he was sort of dismissive of the
• 56:39
  whole thing. Yeah.
• 56:40
  And then like the trainer was like, Nah, he's actually fine.
• 56:43
  Like that whole thing? Yeah, and then you got the
• 56:46
  scuffle in Oakland with the fan. Swung at a guy, just super.
• 56:50
  This guy sucks. Get it.
• 56:51
  Go away. Just a super bizarre, just a
• 56:56
  fall off is what it was really like a massive, massive fall
• 57:01
  off. So yeah, I, I mean, injuries
• 57:05
  suck. I'm not going to sit here and
• 57:07
  like be happy that the guy like missed so much time because if
• 57:13
  you even remotely care about baseball, like.
• 57:15
  I think there's injuries and then there's this.
• 57:18
  Yes, I think Byron Buxton has an injury.
• 57:23
  You know, a history full of injury, but like the guy still
• 57:27
  gets out there and plays and gives it his best and you know,
• 57:32
  because of his style of play, he kind of forces his way into
• 57:36
  another injury. Anthony Rendon just like doesn't
• 57:40
  do anything. It nothing.
• 57:45
  So let me ask you this. He's got the 2026 contract that
• 57:49
  he's signed for, right? Guaranteed money, 38 million,
• 57:53
  all that stuff. This is the last year on his
• 57:55
  contract. What the Angels are really
• 57:57
  saying is we don't want you to play for us anymore.
• 58:00
  So let's work something out. If I release you right now, I
• 58:04
  have to pay you $38 million. So instead, let's do something
• 58:07
  mutual here. Let me defer some of that money.
• 58:10
  Give me some payroll flexibility right now.
• 58:13
  There's no way Boris is going to let him walk away without it $38
• 58:16
  million. And if you're doing him a.
• 58:18
  Minimum. Minimum.
• 58:19
  Minimum, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 58:21
  If you're doing, if you're doing, the team is solid.
• 58:23
  I'm probably going to, if I'm Scott, Boris, knowing the way
• 58:26
  that he works, he's going to ask for a little bit more.
• 58:28
  Let's defer some of that money, give you some flexibility, I'll
• 58:31
  walk away. We don't have to talk about it
• 58:32
  anymore. But like 10 years from now,
• 58:34
  we're still going to be talking about the fact that they're
• 58:36
  paying $4,000,000 to Anthony Redone.
• 58:39
  Right, and that's that's what I'm saying with the optics with
• 58:41
  him and his situation are so bad right now.
• 58:44
  If it if the report came out, they're like, hey, the buyout
• 58:46
  agreement between the team and Boris was that they they
• 58:49
  actually bumped it up to, you know, whatever amount.
• 58:53
  I don't know what they would bump that up to, but so that
• 58:56
  they could defer it and sort of make up, you know, sort of
• 58:59
  bridge that gap a little bit. You're telling me that the
• 59:04
  optics aren't going to be 10 times worse if, if it comes out
• 59:08
  that like they're actually on the hook for more for longer
• 59:12
  like that. I mean, I, I totally hear what
• 59:14
  you're saying and like, and I think payroll flexibility here
• 59:17
  and now is very important, especially if you're just trying
• 59:20
  to get him out the door. But I'm like, I, I just don't
• 59:23
  see a situation where the, the angels come out looking good
• 59:28
  here like it. Anyway, I feel like you go, it's
• 59:31
  going to it's going to look bad. Didn't they just sign Alec
• 59:34
  Manoa? Yeah, let's talk about it.
• 59:37
  Alec, Manoah and the Angels agreed on a deal.
• 59:42
  I don't on a, on a deal yesterday, one year deal worth
• 59:45
  $1.95 million. And quite frankly, I feel like
• 59:49
  that's $1.95 million too much at the the unnecessary nature of
• 1:00:00
  this move cannot be stressed enough.
• 1:00:05
  I mean what are why? The slap in the face that it is
• 1:00:09
  to your prospects at at at a certain point where it's like,
• 1:00:14
  I'd rather just see what we have in our system.
• 1:00:17
  And I know this is probably the worst system to say that about,
• 1:00:21
  specifically about pitching, but I'd rather see what we have in a
• 1:00:25
  guy I don't understand. Well, I mean, where are we at
• 1:00:30
  with the with the guys that they drafted that was that three
• 1:00:34
  years ago now, or the whole draft, the whole draft, just
• 1:00:37
  pictures like where are we at with their development?
• 1:00:40
  Because maybe we're at a point where it's like, all right, you
• 1:00:43
  know, now, now maybe we. Can one of those Tik toks where
• 1:00:46
  there was like where are these draft picks now?
• 1:00:48
  And it went over that and I think there's only like 1 of
• 1:00:51
  them that still relevant. Five of five of their top six
• 1:00:57
  prospects are pictures right now.
• 1:01:00
  And that's what I'm saying. It's like what?
• 1:01:01
  I, let's give that guy a shot. To be fair, you're not going to
• 1:01:07
  compete. You're not going to go win
• 1:01:09
  immediately, especially with nearly $40 million tied up in
• 1:01:16
  the waste of space of Rendon. It's like I why not use somebody
• 1:01:22
  who's I and I? I'm not saying that the 1.95 is
• 1:01:25
  like a a huge cap hit here, but it's like.
• 1:01:29
  No, but it's still too much. We know what he is.
• 1:01:32
  We know what the we know. We already know.
• 1:01:36
  Go I'd I'd rather them go sign Joey Gallo that's trying to come
• 1:01:40
  back as a pitcher than Alec Manila.
• 1:01:43
  This is dumb. Let your prospects come up and
• 1:01:46
  prove it. Freaking angels.
• 1:01:52
  Not to mention trading for Grayson Rodriguez.
• 1:01:57
  Oh I forgot about that. What a dumpster fire.
• 1:02:04
  I don't know, I've had a little bit of time.
• 1:02:06
  No, I feel like even in the moment when we talked about it,
• 1:02:08
  I wasn't like I wasn't, I wasn't completely against it.
• 1:02:12
  Like I, I mean, I think there's some, I, I feel like there's
• 1:02:16
  some upside there. It's just that's just a a.
• 1:02:21
  Let's roll the dice. Let's recap at the end of this
• 1:02:23
  offseason and just list off the number of moves and what moves
• 1:02:28
  the Angels made. I'm going to hate most of them.
• 1:02:35
  That's a quote. That's a quote.
• 1:02:38
  Let's get into some DMS, shall we?
• 1:02:41
  Yeah, please? Max asks.
• 1:02:44
  JB hits me with a don't forget Regas and Rodriguez like oh.
• 1:02:50
  I. Want to, I want to visit all the
• 1:02:52
  ballparks. I don't think I ever want to go
• 1:02:54
  there. I it's a decent ballpark, but I
• 1:02:57
  just I I what a garbage organization.
• 1:03:08
  Max asks. Actually, hold on real quick,
• 1:03:13
  what's a surprise stadium that most people or would would
• 1:03:18
  consider like not good that you would be more willing to go to
• 1:03:22
  than Angel Stadium? A surprise stadium, like one
• 1:03:28
  that might, you know, shock us a little bit 'cause it's commonly
• 1:03:32
  labeled as maybe a little little Doo Doo ballpark that you would
• 1:03:37
  be more willing to go to than Anaheim.
• 1:03:41
  Miami. Really.
• 1:03:45
  Yeah. Yes.
• 1:03:50
  Wow. Yeah.
• 1:03:52
  That's that's the kind of answer I was looking for.
• 1:03:54
  Well done, Bravo. I was just curious.
• 1:03:56
  I was just curious because I mean, I don't, I mean, I I I
• 1:04:00
  can't imagine Anaheim being that bad.
• 1:04:03
  Is it? Is it that bad?
• 1:04:05
  I mean, I'd rather go to Anaheim than like a White Sox game.
• 1:04:09
  Sure, I've been there. That's the most boring ballpark
• 1:04:14
  ever. I was 8 and I knew that.
• 1:04:18
  Oh, you wait, you've been there. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:04:21
  Were you on that team? We were like we were in, I think
• 1:04:25
  like the Midwest and then we were taking like a road trip
• 1:04:27
  back and someone on the team was connected with Rocco Baldelli
• 1:04:33
  when he was a Devil Ray. Like at one point I had AI had a
• 1:04:38
  ball signed by Rocco Baldelli as a Devil Ray, and we went there
• 1:04:43
  and I remember getting a Frank Thomas pin because it was the
• 1:04:48
  day after he had just hit like his 400th home run.
• 1:04:52
  Wow. Vibes are high.
• 1:04:54
  I was not there I've. Never been there and I'm like
• 1:04:56
  this place stinks like. I've never been to rate field.
• 1:05:03
  I think there was US Cellular back then.
• 1:05:09
  That sounds right. But I remember being there with
• 1:05:12
  my team and Rocco Bell delis like coming out of the dugout
• 1:05:15
  and be like, what's up, boys? And like, throwing us signed
• 1:05:18
  baseballs like Rocco, yeah, didn't know who he was.
• 1:05:25
  Go on to lead the Twins to. Mediocrity.
• 1:05:29
  No, I'm just kidding. That's that's disrespectful.
• 1:05:31
  That's disrespectful. Ricochets just.
• 1:05:36
  Factual Factual Ricochets Max wants to know the greatest
• 1:05:40
  championship, trophy and pro team sports between the
• 1:05:43
  NHLNFLNBA and MLB. Greatest trophy?
• 1:05:48
  Like physically the trophy, yeah, I don't.
• 1:05:54
  I mean, it's kind of a hot take. I don't think the Vince Lombardi
• 1:05:56
  trophy is all that great. I think it's an OK trophy.
• 1:06:02
  I think it's just kind of a boring trophy.
• 1:06:05
  I'm gonna go ahead and say the Stanley Cup.
• 1:06:06
  The Stanley Cup is hands down the right hand.
• 1:06:10
  It's not really hot to take, but like.
• 1:06:12
  It's a mini fridge and it's like it's sick.
• 1:06:16
  It's dope. I mean, I love what they do in
• 1:06:18
  hockey, and I mean, this is in fact what they do, correct?
• 1:06:23
  They it's the same trophy and it just gets passed around and it
• 1:06:28
  just gets updated. All the guys just drink booze
• 1:06:31
  out of. It drink it.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah, I mean come on like that's cool.
• 1:06:34
  You wanted to I mean no disrespect to their sports that
• 1:06:37
  obviously you you you have to work to earn that.
• 1:06:41
  I'm not saying the other sports don't, but like you want to talk
• 1:06:43
  about having to earn like a trophy that you got to earn like
• 1:06:47
  that, you're putting life in a limb out there.
• 1:06:51
  There's something legendary about the size of it, and then
• 1:06:53
  them like skating around after they win it and there's just one
• 1:06:56
  guy holding it up and it's like a Oh yeah, a.
• 1:06:58
  Full on trash can. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:07:01
  Like that thing's huge. I'm not a, I'm not, I'm not
• 1:07:05
  necessarily a hockey guy, but when either when you mention
• 1:07:08
  that, my mind immediately goes to OV because I mean, obviously
• 1:07:11
  not too far, but that's the big, that's the, that's the image
• 1:07:15
  that plays in everyone's head around here.
• 1:07:16
  So. Yeah, that's that's the right
• 1:07:18
  answer. I can't even, I can't even
• 1:07:23
  really think of the NBA trophy. I had to.
• 1:07:26
  I just had to look it up. It's.
• 1:07:27
  Gold with the ball, it's it's like.
• 1:07:30
  Oh, it's like on the rim. Oh that's that one sucks.
• 1:07:34
  Is that? I don't think it's supposed to.
• 1:07:36
  Be like a rim, right? Oh I guess there is like a net
• 1:07:39
  imprint on the gold base it it looks close to NFL.
• 1:07:44
  Yeah, I was going to say it it it's like Lombardi esque.
• 1:07:47
  It is. Oh yeah.
• 1:07:48
  Yeah, I see. OK.
• 1:07:49
  Isn't the MVP trophy just like the same thing, just smaller?
• 1:07:56
  I don't know. Feel like it is the NBA.
• 1:07:58
  I will say the Stanley Cup had it even goes further.
• 1:08:02
  Than that I think it is, yeah. My father-in-law.
• 1:08:05
  My father in law's strike out at the Stanley Cup.
• 1:08:08
  Yeah, that's. Like the fan bases get to do it,
• 1:08:10
  you know what I mean? Yeah, that's sick, dude.
• 1:08:13
  I I love, I do love our World Series trophy.
• 1:08:17
  I think it is it, it's a very creative trophy.
• 1:08:20
  I I think it's a beautiful. Trophy.
• 1:08:23
  It really is. Artistically.
• 1:08:25
  Oh yeah, but like. It's hard to beat a mini fridge
• 1:08:28
  that's got a ton of things etched in it, you know what I
• 1:08:31
  mean? That's.
• 1:08:33
  Dents and bruises and yeah, and. The guys just take it home, like
• 1:08:36
  eating a bowl of cereal out of it, like that's.
• 1:08:39
  Going back to Ovie, didn't he? I mean, I'm sure a bunch of guys
• 1:08:41
  have, but he like, slept with it the night they won or something.
• 1:08:44
  Yeah, crazy, crazy. Well, I guess they didn't sleep
• 1:08:48
  that night, but maybe. What were the other options?
• 1:08:50
  Was there anything else? Was it just their?
• 1:08:52
  Just the four. Four major ones.
• 1:08:54
  The NBA should just ship it in, by the way.
• 1:08:56
  It's that thing is. Agreed.
• 1:09:00
  That that week isn't. Dire Straits Speaking of the
• 1:09:04
  league, Chris wants to know what are our plans to keep the MLB
• 1:09:08
  from going on strike in 2027? What are our thoughts
• 1:09:12
  physically? Yep.
• 1:09:13
  What are what are our thoughts? Yeah, the the what do we?
• 1:09:15
  Need to do. Well, I mean, I think, you know,
• 1:09:21
  calling a spade a spade, here we are.
• 1:09:24
  You know, we're historically pro players.
• 1:09:26
  So you we got to look at this through the lens of, you know,
• 1:09:29
  coming to the table on the side of the MLBPA.
• 1:09:34
  So that's the side of the the discussion table we will be on.
• 1:09:39
  So what is it that we're going to throw out there?
• 1:09:41
  It's. Hard to say, man.
• 1:09:52
  I don't, I don't know where like the biggest issues are for the
• 1:09:54
  players at the moment. Like I feel like the players are
• 1:09:57
  coming out on top more often than not.
• 1:10:01
  You know, I feel like things are pretty solid at the moment.
• 1:10:05
  I know they're not, but like I in the in from the player's
• 1:10:07
  perspective, it's like, what more could you want?
• 1:10:11
  I I know the salary stuff is like the biggest thing.
• 1:10:14
  That is the biggest thing and I you know, we look at like the
• 1:10:17
  the rule changes that have been proposed in previous Cbas and
• 1:10:21
  things like that. And at the end of the day, you
• 1:10:24
  know, players are going to, you know, share their thoughts on
• 1:10:27
  social media and, you know, have their sound bites and this and
• 1:10:30
  that. But at the end of the day, you
• 1:10:33
  know, let's let's be real here. They're not looking at that with
• 1:10:37
  the same weight that they're looking at the conversation of
• 1:10:41
  salary cap and salary floor like that.
• 1:10:44
  That's what the players care most about.
• 1:10:46
  That's what these owners care most about.
• 1:10:48
  And I feel like that's really coming to a head with this
• 1:10:53
  upcoming CBA. And I feel like that's the
• 1:10:55
  primary talking point. And if I, I don't know, like if
• 1:11:00
  they can't it, it's, it sounds like we're, it's, it's, it's
• 1:11:06
  basically guaranteed that we're not playing.
• 1:11:08
  Like that's, that's kind of the vibe that I'm getting that we're
• 1:11:10
  just not, we may as well just, you know, you mentioned shipping
• 1:11:13
  it in. Sounds like you may as well ship
• 1:11:15
  in the 2027 season. So, you know, I, I don't know if
• 1:11:20
  there's anything you can throw out there that would avoid that
• 1:11:25
  because they're going to they're you.
• 1:11:26
  We saw how the last CBA went. They get so entrenched.
• 1:11:30
  You saw how the, the, the COVID stuff went down.
• 1:11:33
  You just get so entrenched in your, in your points of view.
• 1:11:36
  You, you get, you get in these echo chambers on social.
• 1:11:40
  You get, like I said, you get these players sharing their
• 1:11:42
  thoughts and opinions about the, the individual issues on social.
• 1:11:46
  And then the fans like, yeah, we're with you.
• 1:11:50
  And then you get the people that are like, stop being stop being
• 1:11:52
  babies. You play a kids game for
• 1:11:54
  millions of dollars and it just ends up being this big mess and
• 1:11:58
  then we get nowhere. So I don't, I legitimately, I
• 1:12:02
  just don't know if there's anything I can.
• 1:12:03
  Throw out there that's what I'm saying is that I feel like I
• 1:12:06
  feel like MLBPA has won in these past agreements.
• 1:12:13
  I feel like that, you know, like the minor league guys are
• 1:12:15
  getting paid more, they're getting more security.
• 1:12:18
  You have the, the, the whole revenue sharing, right?
• 1:12:23
  Like we saw that with, I think it is the A's this past year of
• 1:12:27
  like needing to get over a certain threshold for payroll to
• 1:12:31
  in order to qualify or continue to qualify for revenue sharing.
• 1:12:35
  Like I, I think there's, there's certain things that are going in
• 1:12:39
  the right direction for the players perspective.
• 1:12:42
  I get where they're coming from as far as the, you know, owners
• 1:12:46
  needing to spend thing, but like, I don't know, man, I don't
• 1:12:52
  know. I didn't.
• 1:12:55
  We probably, we don't have enough time for all of my
• 1:12:58
  thoughts on this. You know that yeah, coming from
• 1:13:02
  a broke franchise fan over here. However, I will say that I don't
• 1:13:08
  think that that's entirely true. I think there's some of that
• 1:13:13
  with minor leagues getting paid and everything, but there are
• 1:13:16
  more players in the league pre ARB then are getting $300
• 1:13:21
  million contracts. And so I, I think that the idea
• 1:13:25
  that like the players have always been getting what they,
• 1:13:28
  what they want, I think there's a lot more voices, especially
• 1:13:33
  how young this game is right now.
• 1:13:36
  There's a lot more voices pre ARB players, even first year ARB
• 1:13:40
  players who were saying I could, I could stand to make more
• 1:13:43
  money. And I think any time you start
• 1:13:45
  talking about revenue sharing increasing, which is what would
• 1:13:50
  need to happen in order to fund a floor, right, There would need
• 1:13:54
  to be more revenue sharing money going around in order to fund
• 1:13:58
  that baseline to go up. As a Pirates fan, I can say the
• 1:14:02
  Pirates can spend more money, but not to the level of what you
• 1:14:07
  would think. Like if they if they spent 150
• 1:14:09
  million, they'd go broke, right? They just, they couldn't do it.
• 1:14:13
  But, and that's not factual, that's a roundabout number, But
• 1:14:17
  either way, I think there's a lot that players could get
• 1:14:20
  earlier in their career. And if you think that something
• 1:14:23
  like this goes down and players as a result can go to free
• 1:14:28
  agency after four or five years instead of 6.
• 1:14:32
  Yeah. You're talking being on this
• 1:14:34
  side of 30, going to free agency, you know what I mean?
• 1:14:37
  I could see getting rid of maybe you know, or limiting the pre RB
• 1:14:41
  years, you know, dropping that down or dropping down the
• 1:14:43
  overall, you know, years of of protection, you know, and I
• 1:14:47
  think. Increasing the money.
• 1:14:49
  And, and probably creating some type of penalty around the, the
• 1:14:55
  service time manipulation that teams are doing.
• 1:14:58
  Like, you know, some of that which I think has there, there's
• 1:15:01
  been different rules that have been added in.
• 1:15:02
  So it's, I don't know, I'm not smart enough to know how to fix
• 1:15:06
  it. I think, you know, maybe we just
• 1:15:10
  kidnap Rob Manfred's granddaughter and and a holder
• 1:15:14
  for ransom to say, Hey, let's make sure we play in 2020. 7
• 1:15:19
  Let's let's go on record as saying that's not happening,
• 1:15:26
  not. Happening.
• 1:15:27
  We don't know yet. I'll wait for 2027.
• 1:15:33
  I don't even know if he has a granddaughter, but I'll for sure
• 1:15:36
  take a dog. He probably has a cat.
• 1:15:41
  We're on we're, we're on a slippery.
• 1:15:45
  We're on a. Slippery eyes I would do
• 1:15:46
  personally. Who?
• 1:15:47
  Who wrote that? DMI.
• 1:15:50
  Mean we go from, we go from like we go from revenue sharing to
• 1:15:55
  kidnapping. That's yeah, that's quite a
• 1:15:58
  leap. There's only so much I'm capable
• 1:16:02
  of, Casey and. All right, well, hopefully you
• 1:16:05
  got a little left in the tank because Murray I need Murray is
• 1:16:10
  is coming up with a question a week.
• 1:16:13
  We I feel like we almost seem to make it a stand alone segment.
• 1:16:15
  Just Murray the Murray question of the week.
• 1:16:18
  That's fine. Maybe even a little Jingle.
• 1:16:20
  I don't know the. Murray's Question of the Week.
• 1:16:26
  Done You like that? There you go.
• 1:16:27
  I might just clip that. There you go.
• 1:16:30
  Murray wants to know you're on a deserted island. 3 movies go.
• 1:16:36
  I don't. Want to go first?
• 1:16:40
  I know one of the movies I'm taking Miracle I've.
• 1:16:44
  Oh, good one. The last in the last year I've
• 1:16:46
  really arrived. I like, I've really grown in my
• 1:16:51
  conviction that that is one of my all time favorite movies.
• 1:16:54
  Like, I've always loved that movie, but the last year I'm
• 1:16:56
  like, I need to, I need to come to terms with the fact that this
• 1:16:59
  is just an all time favorite for me.
• 1:17:01
  OK, what else you got? Rounded out, I could throw
• 1:17:06
  Saving Private Ryan into the mix.
• 1:17:08
  Good, Really good. Get a little bit of action there
• 1:17:13
  mixed up with the sports, but probably lean heavy on the
• 1:17:16
  sports. Invincible is another great one.
• 1:17:20
  It's been a while, I haven't visited.
• 1:17:21
  That actually, no, I'm going to go, you know what, I'm going to
• 1:17:24
  cover my bases here. I'm going to go Miracle, Saving
• 1:17:28
  Private Ryan and 51st states. Yeah, you almost got to think
• 1:17:35
  about getting a comedy in there. I hope I'm on a different
• 1:17:40
  island. I think I'm just going to.
• 1:17:43
  There will not be any slander of any of those three films.
• 1:17:47
  We'll just go ahead and get that cleared up.
• 1:17:52
  No Chris Farley. I said I.
• 1:17:56
  Can't no Sandlot. I said what?
• 1:17:58
  I said, OK, this is a conversation for another day.
• 1:18:01
  We've actually talked about this one here before.
• 1:18:03
  But the I I will forever love Sandlot, but it's it's harder
• 1:18:10
  for me. What?
• 1:18:12
  It's just in its place in time. Yeah, like I can't be, I can't
• 1:18:16
  carry that into like my, my 70s and 80s be like, hey, this is my
• 1:18:20
  favorite movie of all time. Like I, I and it was hard.
• 1:18:23
  It was hard for me to read, like to admit that.
• 1:18:25
  But like, I'm just, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm 32 and I, I, I just
• 1:18:32
  have to look at other, other options here.
• 1:18:35
  Is it because of the perception of that because you're on a
• 1:18:37
  deserted island for the rest of your life, there's no other
• 1:18:40
  people there? You can like whatever you want.
• 1:18:43
  It's fair. I, I'm not going to say like
• 1:18:45
  I've outgrown it, like I don't, I don't mean that because I
• 1:18:48
  still, I still enjoy the movie, but like it's just, I, I think
• 1:18:52
  it's served its, its role for my, for the appropriate portions
• 1:18:59
  of my life. And now I need to adjust my.
• 1:19:02
  I just need to refresh my list, you know?
• 1:19:05
  You've put more thought into this.
• 1:19:06
  If I had the same favorite movie list now as I did when I was 10,
• 1:19:12
  that says a lot about me. You know, I got to got to grow,
• 1:19:16
  got to grow as as an individual, got to got to make make some,
• 1:19:20
  some updates. I'll go Gladiator, The Dark
• 1:19:28
  Knight and I'm in between 2:00. I don't know which way to go.
• 1:19:36
  You got to go, you said you got to go comedy.
• 1:19:37
  So you decide between 2:00. Comedies, comedy is not in
• 1:19:40
  there. That's intense, man, for being
• 1:19:45
  on a deserted island. I guess the play might be find
• 1:19:50
  the longest movies. It's either Interstellar or
• 1:19:54
  Remember the Titans. I would go remember the Titans
• 1:19:58
  interstellar you're I'm not saying.
• 1:20:01
  On the plane it's fantastic. I could watch it again tomorrow.
• 1:20:06
  I know, but that's that's a movie that just gets you in your
• 1:20:09
  head a little bit. Well, I'm thinking Inception,
• 1:20:13
  but also Interstellar. Interstellar also kind of, you
• 1:20:16
  know, gets in your head a little bit and you've already got
• 1:20:18
  you've got 2 rather rather deep 10 Titans.
• 1:20:24
  Good. Soundtrack.
• 1:20:26
  Oh. Fantastic soundtrack.
• 1:20:28
  Yeah, gets me going. I'll go.
• 1:20:30
  Remember the Titans. Gladiator, Dark Knight.
• 1:20:32
  Remember the Titans? Josh, what do you got?
• 1:20:35
  Oh my gosh, I'm so bad at this. Josh in the corner.
• 1:20:38
  Almost heroes, Chris. That's it.
• 1:20:40
  Just I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
• 1:20:43
  What do you got? Man, it would be hard for me.
• 1:20:47
  Almost heroes. I don't even know what that
• 1:20:49
  movie. Is never heard.
• 1:20:50
  It Chris Farley's last movie, they're him and him and Matthew
• 1:20:55
  Perry are racing Lewis and Clark to see the Pacific.
• 1:20:58
  It's hilarious. That sounds funny.
• 1:21:01
  That does it's. Very.
• 1:21:03
  Funny, yeah. What's it called?
• 1:21:05
  Almost Almost heroes. Almost heroes.
• 1:21:08
  Yeah, and it's like back in time of like with like the Lewis and
• 1:21:11
  Clark times. That's I might have to give that
• 1:21:15
  a watch dude. It's so quotable too, probably
• 1:21:19
  like so if I already have Chris Farley, so maybe Dumb and Dumber
• 1:21:27
  I I would. It would probably be all comedy
• 1:21:29
  for me. I I just, I don't have time to
• 1:21:35
  watch something that doesn't make me laugh.
• 1:21:39
  The other guy is up there for me, by the way, as far as comedy
• 1:21:42
  goes. As as far as repeat like re
• 1:21:45
  watchable movies, that's a that's a great thing.
• 1:21:48
  That's a good point because like I already almost know some of
• 1:21:52
  these movies quotables, so like I can't just keep picking them.
• 1:21:57
  Yeah. Can I?
• 1:21:57
  Can I cheat? Can I do Ken Burns baseball
• 1:22:00
  documentary? Oh my God.
• 1:22:04
  Because. That would that would take a
• 1:22:05
  long time to get through and that would pass the time.
• 1:22:09
  That would pass the time. I think I'd rather just have two
• 1:22:11
  movies. I would.
• 1:22:13
  Rather, I don't know man. I can't do it.
• 1:22:17
  Look, I respect the play, I respect the play.
• 1:22:20
  I love baseball, but. Wow, so I'm on the spot.
• 1:22:25
  I've never thought about this. I'm not much of a movie guy to
• 1:22:28
  be honest with you. Like there's movies I've watched
• 1:22:31
  and I've liked and then like once I've seen it, I don't need
• 1:22:35
  to watch it again. There's a few that I watch
• 1:22:38
  again. Comedies.
• 1:22:39
  But couldn't that go for watching anything like the Ken
• 1:22:42
  Burns documentary like you once you've seen it?
• 1:22:44
  Like why would you need to watch it again?
• 1:22:46
  Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question.
• 1:22:48
  I guess just. I don't know, it is a good
• 1:22:50
  question. It's a good like I could vibe
• 1:22:52
  out and just like lay there and not do anything and it kind of
• 1:22:56
  like you're in and out of sleep and I mean, you're by yourself
• 1:23:00
  forever. I don't, I don't know.
• 1:23:02
  What about TV shows? You do this for TV shows.
• 1:23:05
  Cheers, hands down. Cheers.
• 1:23:06
  Not even close. I want.
• 1:23:07
  Three Let's go. Three TV shows Let's.
• 1:23:09
  Here's two hours tonight. Let's go 2 hours.
• 1:23:12
  Let's let's really lock in here. Three TV.
• 1:23:15
  Shows I'll be bad at this. Casey's definitely got the
• 1:23:18
  office in there office. Has to be there.
• 1:23:22
  Yeah, that's good. Oh, shoot, definitely.
• 1:23:40
  You know, funny enough, we're talking island.
• 1:23:42
  I would not. I would not have lost on there.
• 1:23:47
  For. Some reason people love lost
• 1:23:49
  where I was just we were just talking about that with somebody
• 1:23:51
  that they just when you. Get to that last season, you're
• 1:23:53
  like, I wasted the last six months of my life watching.
• 1:23:58
  And we watched play during like the very beginning of COVID.
• 1:24:01
  So how do you think we felt? We're like, what are we?
• 1:24:03
  What is going on in this in the world?
• 1:24:05
  What is going on with our lives? No spoilers.
• 1:24:07
  No, maybe the play is something like that.
• 1:24:09
  Something like Survivor and Castaway.
• 1:24:10
  You might actually get off this island by the end of it.
• 1:24:13
  That's true. Great.
• 1:24:15
  Audi TV is not a bad play either.
• 1:24:17
  There's like 47 seasons of Survivor so.
• 1:24:22
  They're on 49 right now. You're getting.
• 1:24:25
  I'm not just. There's a number out there, no?
• 1:24:26
  They're literally on 49. Next season, they'll be 50.
• 1:24:29
  That's big time. What's his name?
• 1:24:31
  That's a good guess, Jeff. Oh, yeah.
• 1:24:33
  Jeff, props. That's a good.
• 1:24:37
  That's a good guess. Yeah.
• 1:24:43
  Office. You gotta, you gotta wonder, you
• 1:24:47
  gotta wonder if there's like a game show like you threw out
• 1:24:49
  like Family Feud or something, you know, 25 years of Family
• 1:24:54
  Feud shows. No, I went, I went, I took my
• 1:24:57
  brother, we went to we took him out for like his batch.
• 1:25:01
  It's just me, him and my dad. We just went out for like his
• 1:25:04
  bachelor weekend thing. Just went out to a little like
• 1:25:07
  lake or whatever and they had ATV and it was like the, the
• 1:25:11
  limited channels that you could choose from and it was like, it
• 1:25:14
  was, it was the old people game show channel and then like the
• 1:25:18
  local news station and, and then like a couple others.
• 1:25:20
  And so like, all right, I guess we're watching family viewed and
• 1:25:23
  we watch it for like maybe an hour and a half.
• 1:25:26
  By the end of it, I'm like, I, I've seen.
• 1:25:29
  I mean, I'd seen it before, but after watching it for an hour
• 1:25:31
  and a half, I'm like it's. Is this pre Steve Harvey?
• 1:25:34
  No, Steve Harvey, but I'm like you kind of get the gist after
• 1:25:39
  after like an hour and a half, you know, it's kind of like
• 1:25:42
  there's the jokes are the jokes and the game is game, you know,
• 1:25:48
  I don't know. I think that Steve Harvey kind
• 1:25:52
  of yeah, I I like him on that. But it it it would be a lot.
• 1:25:56
  It's the same thing That's I. Like Steve?
• 1:26:00
  I love Steve, but that's a lot of.
• 1:26:02
  Steve, I do too. But it is, it's a lot of Steve
• 1:26:04
  and you've seen all the antics if you've watched it for an hour
• 1:26:06
  and a half. I could.
• 1:26:12
  I mean you. Still doing it.
• 1:26:16
  You looking up shows? I I, well, I'm like blanking on
• 1:26:20
  shows for some reason. Love Parks and Rec?
• 1:26:24
  Yeah, but I you got to you got to sprinkle variety in guy.
• 1:26:29
  If you got office, you can't go parks and.
• 1:26:31
  That's a good point. That's true.
• 1:26:32
  It's literally the same people. Oh, Band of Brothers.
• 1:26:37
  I was thinking Band of That's a great if.
• 1:26:40
  I wish it was longer though, yeah.
• 1:26:43
  Pause. Like 8 or 9 episodes.
• 1:26:46
  That's, that's a good, that's a good, a good option.
• 1:26:51
  There's something that I'm trying to think of that we
• 1:26:54
  watched like recently, right within the last like 3 or so
• 1:27:00
  years. I'm struggling to remember what
• 1:27:02
  it was. Am I the only one going right
• 1:27:08
  now? Suits.
• 1:27:09
  Yeah. Yes, that's that's what I'm
• 1:27:11
  thinking of. OK.
• 1:27:12
  Yeah. Suits.
• 1:27:13
  I was like, we've literally watched this recently.
• 1:27:15
  Suits. I'll throw this.
• 1:27:17
  I'll throw suits out there. The office.
• 1:27:19
  Thank you. That was going to kill me if I
• 1:27:21
  couldn't remember that. And I won't.
• 1:27:28
  I mean, I won't say it's like a top three show of all time, but
• 1:27:30
  I would take a deserted island. Friday Night Lights.
• 1:27:33
  Great show. Fantastic show.
• 1:27:35
  Just finished that White Collar. Another good one.
• 1:27:40
  Yeah, I tried Paige. Didn't like it, really.
• 1:27:44
  Yeah. And it made it like 5 episodes
• 1:27:45
  in and I was like, we got to get past the first season.
• 1:27:47
  She's like, no, I'm well done. As with every show, yeah.
• 1:27:50
  Like you owe every show at least that, yeah.
• 1:27:53
  Cheers though. Cheers.
• 1:27:55
  First season. Most watchable season.
• 1:27:58
  Tony JB is secretly 67 years old.
• 1:28:02
  I found out how old he was before we started the the pod
• 1:28:05
  tonight. I don't know if you know how old
• 1:28:07
  he is. I don't.
• 1:28:09
  He could be 23 or he could be 78 years old.
• 1:28:14
  You're young, aren't you, Josh? How old?
• 1:28:16
  How old are you? Well, you know, COVID age is the
• 1:28:19
  brain. You don't, you don't have to.
• 1:28:23
  Did you like Cheers before? COVID or did you come out of
• 1:28:26
  COVID and you were like did? Cheers is cheers did.
• 1:28:29
  You like? Cheers.
• 1:28:30
  Hey. Josh, did you like Cheers when
• 1:28:32
  it originally aired? I don't think so.
• 1:28:36
  I would have been a bit young for.
• 1:28:38
  Cheers. A couple shows that have yet to
• 1:28:40
  be named that I feel like are owed the the respect here in the
• 1:28:43
  conversation. Friends and Seinfeld couple all
• 1:28:47
  time greats. I can quote friends with the
• 1:28:50
  best of them for sure. And there's a lot there too.
• 1:28:53
  So I think Friends would be a good one, but then it would have
• 1:28:57
  to be something different. I don't know.
• 1:29:02
  Oh yeah, dude, I don't want to watch Friday Night Lights watch
• 1:29:04
  TV. It's great, Yeah.
• 1:29:06
  How old are you? Josh, what do you do?
• 1:29:09
  How old are you I? Watch baseball.
• 1:29:12
  He watches Cody Pont's highlights.
• 1:29:14
  Live live sports or else I'm doing something else like I I
• 1:29:20
  just don't like not doing something I would I would pick
• 1:29:24
  up and this is very this doesn't.
• 1:29:25
  Happen all time something. I would pick up a game like a
• 1:29:29
  video game before I would watch something.
• 1:29:33
  I respect it. Friday night, Friday nights, Sea
• 1:29:35
  of Thieves, that's my gym. I only play it on Friday nights,
• 1:29:38
  but Friday nights, that's my night to play Sea of Thieves.
• 1:29:41
  That's my video games. How old are you?
• 1:29:43
  What is Sea of Thieves? Is this like a a a Domino's?
• 1:29:46
  Game not answering this question on.
• 1:29:48
  Purpose. It's a pirate pirate game.
• 1:29:50
  I'm all pirate. Course it is.
• 1:29:52
  Of course it is. Oh, I see, Unbelievable.
• 1:29:57
  Right on brand. Yeah, on brand.
• 1:30:00
  Cap it off with a show, Nate. Yeah.
• 1:30:05
  Tap it off with the show. You got to finish your list
• 1:30:07
  right. Yeah, this is really tough.
• 1:30:10
  I don't. I think we've spent more time on
• 1:30:16
  this question than we'd talked about, Dylan sees for the
• 1:30:19
  record. That might be true, but don't
• 1:30:22
  worry, trivia's got you. Trivia's got you with more,
• 1:30:24
  Dylan. CC Oh yeah, we got trivia.
• 1:30:26
  Let's get to trivia with Dylan CC.
• 1:30:28
  Yeah. Let's take, let's go 3 hours
• 1:30:30
  with this thing. I'm literally I'm here for it.
• 1:30:35
  I don't think I can narrow it down, guy.
• 1:30:36
  I just don't think. What do you have?
• 1:30:38
  What did you submit so far? You had nothing.
• 1:30:40
  I don't know. Nothing.
• 1:30:42
  I can't submit anything. I thought you had like 2 or
• 1:30:46
  maybe you're just throwing stuff out.
• 1:30:47
  I was throwing stuff out for you.
• 1:30:49
  There's, I mean, I so many good shows.
• 1:30:53
  I love shows. I'll take show.
• 1:30:54
  I love movies, but I'll take shows over movies.
• 1:30:58
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:02
  The commitment, that's the big burn.
• 1:31:04
  Yeah, that's the biggest thing is you can, you can jump in and
• 1:31:07
  out. You don't.
• 1:31:07
  You're not. Yeah, I get that.
• 1:31:09
  I can see right through that though, because my wife says
• 1:31:12
  that movies take too long, but she'll happily sit there for
• 1:31:15
  three consecutive episodes. Right.
• 1:31:16
  But you you have the flexibility if you don't want to in a given
• 1:31:20
  night. That's the difference.
• 1:31:22
  And you didn't have to wait as long.
• 1:31:23
  You still got the first thing resolved in 30 minutes.
• 1:31:25
  They may go to the You got a brand new story.
• 1:31:27
  Exactly, Meredith, God love her. She has no problem stopping a
• 1:31:33
  movie like 2/3 of the way through.
• 1:31:35
  No, it'd be like, let's finish up and I'm like you.
• 1:31:39
  Can't. Do that.
• 1:31:40
  No. I've actually stopped, Paige
• 1:31:43
  will fall asleep with about 12 minutes left in an episode.
• 1:31:47
  And I'm like, I'm, I'm past that point where I'm just like, I'm
• 1:31:50
  not pausing it for you. We're not starting this thing
• 1:31:52
  up. Yeah, that's nuts.
• 1:31:54
  Look. You better pause the next
• 1:31:56
  episode. You got a recap previously on
• 1:31:59
  because that's the best you're going to get out of me.
• 1:32:02
  You're going to pause. You're going to miss the best,
• 1:32:04
  the literal best part of that given episode.
• 1:32:06
  She knows too. She like hides her face from me
• 1:32:10
  when we're when we're like and I'm like, I know what you're
• 1:32:12
  doing. I know you're getting comfier.
• 1:32:14
  I know you're it's a matter of seconds.
• 1:32:17
  I can't do shit. I'm sorry.
• 1:32:19
  I can't. This was your idea, by the way?
• 1:32:22
  Yeah, it was. All right.
• 1:32:24
  Let's get on to trivia, then. Let's.
• 1:32:25
  Yeah. Let's get on to it.
• 1:32:29
  Talk A. Little bit, so check this out.
• 1:32:31
  Since 2021, Dylan Cease is the only pitcher take.
• 1:32:35
  Us another 30 minutes. By the way, week it's going to
• 1:32:38
  take us a week. It might see you guys at Craig
• 1:32:40
  can already tell. He's the only pitcher in
• 1:32:43
  baseball to start at least 32 games every year for the last
• 1:32:48
  five seasons. So there is value.
• 1:32:50
  I mean, like, listen, the best abilities availability, he gets
• 1:32:54
  some added value there. Sure.
• 1:32:56
  He's he's reliable. He's posting DID.
• 1:32:58
  You say one O 5. 2021 to to 2025.
• 1:33:03
  He's the only, oh, the only, the only pitcher.
• 1:33:06
  I lowered the minimum to 30 starts and there are three other
• 1:33:11
  pitchers to post at least 30 starts in all five seasons.
• 1:33:19
  Who are they? Is Kevin Gozman in the mix?
• 1:33:25
  Dude, Kevin Gozman, we're one for.
• 1:33:28
  Good. One for one, let's go do more.
• 1:33:31
  Good for you, good for you. And, and I'll and I'll, I will
• 1:33:35
  give you a hint. close Tate 22 through 25.
• 1:33:41
  Logan Webb, for a hint, is one of these guys as a free agent,
• 1:33:47
  but he's a bit on the He's not one of the top, but a reliable
• 1:33:55
  arm. Wow, way to start that.
• 1:33:58
  Way to start it KC. Well, I feel like he was about
• 1:34:01
  to say on the older side. I was but.
• 1:34:04
  Verlander. No, what's?
• 1:34:07
  No, no, he's. Worth a shot.
• 1:34:10
  No, he was injured. Of all the shots, that's
• 1:34:15
  certainly. One of them, yeah, we're looking
• 1:34:17
  for 30 starts every year since 2021.
• 1:34:20
  So I you're, So what you're saying is I was right with Logan
• 1:34:23
  Webb, except I like he's a year short.
• 1:34:26
  He's a year. Short of 2022 through 2025, he's
• 1:34:29
  four straight years. So I mean, I'm giving myself
• 1:34:32
  half a point there. That's off.
• 1:34:33
  That's a good start. Well, there's only a Yeah, it
• 1:34:36
  there's 7. There's there's seven more
• 1:34:41
  pitchers with Four Seasons. So we're, I mean, we're 11 deep
• 1:34:44
  like that. And not all of those are.
• 1:34:46
  Some of those are 21 through 24, right?
• 1:34:49
  I like your threshold though. That that's it.
• 1:34:51
  It's like. Being thrown at me.
• 1:34:53
  I'm tracking. I'm tracking with you, Josh.
• 1:34:55
  So we've got Dylan Cease. We've got Kevin Gossman.
• 1:34:58
  There's two more. One of them is a free agent and
• 1:35:01
  one of them might surprise you. There's a theme.
• 1:35:06
  Sonny Gray. Not Sonny Gray.
• 1:35:10
  Who close? I'll see if he's on here.
• 1:35:13
  Not Sonny. Rages 2.
• 1:35:17
  Nate, you would know this not no, not Carlos Rodon, right?
• 1:35:22
  I. It his name crossed my mind. 3
• 1:35:28
  is the last three. No, you're saying just three.
• 1:35:32
  Times in the in that fan, yeah, between 22 and 25.
• 1:35:37
  Three. So 23 or 24.
• 1:35:39
  He, he didn't. Man, I felt good with that Logan
• 1:35:45
  Webb pick. I thought we were just going to
• 1:35:48
  have to dwindle. The sound of one who posts who
• 1:35:55
  posts somebody in is that gallon.
• 1:36:02
  No gallon was 3. Somebody in Texas?
• 1:36:09
  Am I missing somebody in Texas? Framber Valdez. 3.
• 1:36:15
  Oh shoot, I was ready. To hit the button, you were you.
• 1:36:17
  Were ready to hit the button. So there was the The free agent
• 1:36:22
  did pitch for Texas last year, but only last year, and pitched
• 1:36:27
  for a team relatively close to you before that.
• 1:36:36
  I'm assuming that's Baltimore, Baltimore and Texas.
• 1:36:41
  DC in Texas. Patrick Corbin.
• 1:36:45
  Patrick Corbin. We got one more left and and
• 1:36:48
  this one is on like there's a theme.
• 1:36:52
  If you remember the first two, this is a huge hint.
• 1:36:56
  Here there is a theme. The first.
• 1:36:59
  Two. Remember the first two?
• 1:37:01
  Yeah. Cease.
• 1:37:03
  Cease. And who did I say it's a blue
• 1:37:08
  Jay? It's a blue Jay, maybe.
• 1:37:10
  It's a Patrick Corbin. It's a blue Jay.
• 1:37:15
  Don't let. It's maybe it's a maybe it's a
• 1:37:17
  Patrick Corbin teammate. No, he said the 1st 2:00 there's
• 1:37:22
  a theme. Listen to what he's saying.
• 1:37:25
  It's a Riddle. It's not a Riddle, it's a clue.
• 1:37:29
  It's a hint that he's giving us Jose Brios.
• 1:37:34
  There it is. Bang it.
• 1:37:38
  So listen to this Chris Bassett, who's a free agent now, but
• 1:37:41
  pitched for Toronto last year, also four since 2022.
• 1:37:46
  So like like Toronto's looking at this thing.
• 1:37:50
  I mean, they're in pretty good shape right now.
• 1:37:52
  I you've got Sis now you've got Brios, you've got Gosman.
• 1:37:56
  They're kind of an old school team here.
• 1:37:58
  They're getting all their starts.
• 1:37:59
  They don't strike out. They put the ball in play.
• 1:38:01
  I. Like that a lot.
• 1:38:03
  However they are looking they're they're they're open to trading
• 1:38:07
  Rios right now. We'll see.
• 1:38:08
  They got pawns coming in now they've got you.
• 1:38:12
  Savage coming up I. Don't want to hear this guy's
• 1:38:14
  name again. Pawns.
• 1:38:16
  I'm I'm excited to watch you, Savage.
• 1:38:18
  Don't trade, don't trade. Don't trade, Rios.
• 1:38:20
  All right, look, you we watched it first hand with the freaking
• 1:38:23
  Dodgers. They had 17 starters going in
• 1:38:26
  the year and they needed all of them because all of them went
• 1:38:28
  down. Don't trade anybody like that.
• 1:38:31
  Run a six man rotation if you need to.
• 1:38:33
  Don't trade anybody. Keep it healthy.
• 1:38:37
  I love that I hate that I love that.
• 1:38:41
  I hate that I love what the Blue Jays are doing.
• 1:38:46
  Excitedness. What else do you guys want?
• 1:38:49
  By the way, I will say, I will say too about what you said
• 1:38:53
  about Bichette earlier about whether or not he'll be willing
• 1:38:55
  to go to second base. I think he's going to have that
• 1:38:58
  sort of conversation no matter who he talks to.
• 1:39:00
  There's been a lot of talk about Philly in third base, Boston and
• 1:39:04
  third base. There's a lot of the attention
• 1:39:06
  going to him might not be shortstop.
• 1:39:09
  So I don't think he'll he'll shy away at that.
• 1:39:13
  I, I can't think about anything else except the fact that
• 1:39:17
  there's a very good chance we end up with Pete Alonso from
• 1:39:20
  what I'm hearing, Not that I'm hearing, just reading, consuming
• 1:39:27
  again at a very high level, not I'm not in the weeds, but so
• 1:39:32
  that's fun. I guess thought you weren't
• 1:39:35
  getting caught up in the rumors. I'm not.
• 1:39:38
  That's like very high level stuff.
• 1:39:41
  I'm not. I'm not reading Heyman tweets to
• 1:39:43
  figure that out. We got do we got winter meetings
• 1:39:46
  next week. Yes.
• 1:39:49
  Isn't it this weekend or is it this next week?
• 1:39:51
  Start Sunday, I think, right? Yeah.
• 1:39:53
  I think so. Love that.
• 1:39:58
  Let's go. Let's go to the winter meetings.
• 1:40:05
  Like now well, no, because they haven't started yet.
• 1:40:10
  They I'm saying when when they happen, let's let's just go.
• 1:40:14
  We'll fly down. It's in Florida, right?
• 1:40:17
  So is it Orlando? It's.
• 1:40:19
  Orlando. Let's fly down to Orlando I.
• 1:40:26
  Don't think Orlando is that great.
• 1:40:27
  Go go to Disney Weld. Definitely not in on that.
• 1:40:34
  Adults that go to Disney World without kids red flag.
• 1:40:40
  That's big red flag. Oh.
• 1:40:46
  That's a hill I'll die on. That's that's your hill to die
• 1:40:49
  on. Nate, you're on fire tonight.
• 1:40:51
  Yeah, watch out for those people anyway.
• 1:41:00
  What else do you want to talk about?
• 1:41:04
  You want to go to you want to go to the winter meetings?
• 1:41:05
  You want to, you want to catch Boris in his natural element.
• 1:41:09
  Let's sneak into the CBA agreements next year.
• 1:41:15
  Where are those held? On an undisclosed.
• 1:41:18
  Does anybody know? Yeah.
• 1:41:20
  Does anybody know? We'll probably hear a lot about
• 1:41:24
  preliminary discussions at winter meetings.
• 1:41:26
  Honestly, ship him to freaking South Dakota.
• 1:41:28
  Put him somewhere there's nothing else to do.
• 1:41:30
  Let's get this thing hammered out, you know what I mean?
• 1:41:34
  Don't put him in. Except don't.
• 1:41:36
  You can go ahead and leave Tony Clark behind and put somebody
• 1:41:38
  else in that position. Yeah, I'm kind of.
• 1:41:41
  I'm kind of out on Tony. I'm we need the attitude.
• 1:41:43
  We need a new yeah, we need a new voice.
• 1:41:46
  Yep. Yeah, he's, he's getting to
• 1:41:49
  like. Who would your ideal guy be?
• 1:41:52
  I wasn't going to do that. I got smarter people than me.
• 1:41:55
  Who's your guy? Who's your?
• 1:41:57
  I would say CC dude. CC would just be.
• 1:41:59
  Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't hate it.
• 1:42:01
  Yeah. And his wife is an Asian, right?
• 1:42:04
  Yes. Yeah.
• 1:42:05
  So he, he has like a little bit of a business lens to work
• 1:42:08
  through there, I guess. I.
• 1:42:09
  Think he'd cut through the BS for.
• 1:42:10
  Sure, I'd be, yeah. And doesn't he have like a like
• 1:42:15
  him and him and old Bobby Manfred, they get along, don't
• 1:42:18
  they? Sure.
• 1:42:22
  I mean out off the field I feel like CC would be a hard guy to
• 1:42:27
  to get along or a hard guy not to get along with.
• 1:42:30
  Yeah, you almost tripped yourself up there.
• 1:42:33
  No, I'll give him his. I'll give him his credit, Bear.
• 1:42:36
  Yeah, I'll give him his credit. He seems like a seems like a
• 1:42:38
  good dude to hang out with. Wouldn't want to mess with him
• 1:42:41
  on the field obviously, but. Who's the last guy you would
• 1:42:44
  ever want to be? Dustin Pedroia, Max Scherzer,
• 1:42:48
  they would. He would never.
• 1:42:50
  He wouldn't compromise on a single thing.
• 1:42:54
  I was going to say Jonathan Papabon.
• 1:42:55
  So that's pretty funny, yeah. Papabon cut from the same cloth,
• 1:43:00
  I guess. Yeah, that's funny.
• 1:43:05
  We arrived there at the same same place.
• 1:43:08
  It's a. Ridiculously long episode.
• 1:43:10
  What else you want to talk about?
• 1:43:11
  It keeps. Saying.
• 1:43:13
  What else you got? I'm here for the long haul.
• 1:43:17
  This is fun do. Some comments.
• 1:43:19
  You want to read through some comments?
• 1:43:23
  Yeah, Let's see, it's almost midnight for you guys.
• 1:43:29
  Yeah, man, it's it's nuts. We still got a while.
• 1:43:35
  You're you're a night owl, JB. Yeah.
• 1:43:37
  Yeah, yeah. It's almost bedtime for me.
• 1:43:49
  People agree with me on my take that this Pirates logo is one of
• 1:43:53
  the most criminally underappreciated logos of all
• 1:43:56
  time. Sure.
• 1:44:03
  I, I mean, I would agree with that.
• 1:44:05
  I'm, I'm, I'm biased in two different ways because I grew up
• 1:44:10
  near Pittsburgh. So I like the Pirates, but also
• 1:44:12
  I like Pirates. So I just think that all their
• 1:44:17
  stuff is the coolest stuff all. Right, I'm with you there.
• 1:44:25
  Yeah, we can. Let's read through some comments
• 1:44:27
  another time. We can wrap it.
• 1:44:29
  I don't want to go down too many rabbit holes.
• 1:44:33
  Let's let's wrap it and go hang out with my dog for a little bit
• 1:44:38
  before I call it so. It's a confusing comment.
• 1:44:45
  I don't think people really read posts sometimes.
• 1:44:47
  I don't think they do either. I don't.
• 1:44:50
  Have you heard? All right, here's something we
• 1:44:53
  can talk about. Have you heard about the The
• 1:44:55
  Dead Internet Theory? No.
• 1:44:59
  I'll give you an official definition.
• 1:45:06
  The Dead Internet theory posits that the Internet is no longer
• 1:45:09
  dominated by organic human created content in interactions,
• 1:45:12
  but has been largely taken over by artificial intelligence and
• 1:45:15
  bots. I buy that.
• 1:45:18
  According to the theory, AI driven accounts now create most
• 1:45:21
  content manipulating engagement metrics and generate fake
• 1:45:24
  interactions to achieve goals like financial gain or
• 1:45:26
  propaganda. In other words, the people that
• 1:45:29
  you're interacting with online aren't actual people, which
• 1:45:36
  which relates to what you're saying is that I, I just,
• 1:45:41
  they're, we're lacking. Have you heard about that guy on
• 1:45:44
  TikTok who is like stuck as a time traveller and he's like
• 1:45:53
  going to different places and not seeing anybody?
• 1:45:57
  He's just alone. Yes, I've seen that.
• 1:46:00
  That's pretty wild. That's a That's a wild.
• 1:46:04
  I mean, it's got to be AI, right?
• 1:46:06
  I don't know. He like they tell him like go to
• 1:46:09
  certain places. They're like, go to this
• 1:46:10
  restaurant at this time, I'll be there.
• 1:46:14
  And he goes there and it's empty.
• 1:46:20
  It's odd, but like, why? He's like walking through Times
• 1:46:22
  Square and it's like, there's no way you're going to have, you
• 1:46:27
  can't get Times Square to be empty.
• 1:46:32
  Movies spend like millions of dollars to do that for like a
• 1:46:35
  film, but like, there's no way. That's strange.
• 1:46:39
  I'll hear you on that. I'll hear you on that for sure.
• 1:46:43
  Let's let's round it out with with a green that we need to do
• 1:46:49
  a three O fake sometime soon. Agreed and we'll leave it there.
• 1:46:57
  That's all that's all we got. That was fun.
• 1:47:00
  Good stuff. Very.
• 1:47:04
  I feel like we touched all bases tonight.
• 1:47:06
  I think we did I, I think we covered most, if not everything,
• 1:47:11
  not just in baseball, but you know, literally everything shows
• 1:47:15
  movies, kidnapping again, on record, not not happening.
• 1:47:21
  Feel like we did well on trivia. You did very well on trivia.
• 1:47:25
  Comparatively, we did. We did well, yeah.
• 1:47:28
  Yeah, that doesn't say much. Don't go chasing car balls.
• 1:47:32
  We love you all and as always looking forward to talking more
• 1:47:34
  baseball and amongst other things with you guys soon.
• 1:47:37
  Until next time, stay filthy.