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SMNTY Classics: Power of Friendship · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie.
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  Speaker 2: And Smitha.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome to Stuff Never Told You, a production of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 3: And today, we are bringing back a classic, a Monday
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  Speaker 3: mini classic about friendship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I've been thinking a lot about the stress
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  Speaker 4: and everything. And one of the conversations we had was
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  Speaker 4: about the power of of friendship and how actually it
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  Speaker 4: is beneficial, especially when it comes to friendships with other women,
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  Speaker 4: women and women, because it just helps during a stressful time.
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  Speaker 4: And we're like, yeah, and it's backed by science. So
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  Speaker 4: definitely had to bring this in as a reminder that
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  Speaker 4: maybe one of the stress relievers that we do have
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  Speaker 4: that is cheaper than other things are friendships. So hope
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  Speaker 4: you enjoyed this classic.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie.
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  Speaker 2: And Samantha.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome to Stuff One Never Told You, a production
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  Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 4: And welcome to another edition of Monday Mini, where we
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  Speaker 4: talk about random things and put a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: statistics in there or facts or news. We try to
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  Speaker 4: make it a little different from our happy hour because
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  Speaker 4: it is a personal take or something that we're thinking on.
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  Speaker 4: And then we do pseudo research, meaning like we don't
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  Speaker 4: do a lot of in-depth research and or maybe come
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  Speaker 4: from an article that got us interested in it.
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  Speaker 2: However, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: So just to explain what the Monday Mini is again,
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  Speaker 4: because I think everybody's like, what is this?
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  Speaker 2: Just a small episode?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But today, I.
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  Speaker 4: Thought I would make a switch because my last happy
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  Speaker 4: hour was really sad. And unfortunately right now with the
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  Speaker 4: seasons and the holidays, I'm not the happiest person, most
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  Speaker 4: joyous person in the world. But I thought I'd take
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  Speaker 4: a minute to actually reflect on things that do make
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  Speaker 4: me happy. And as a reminder of things that can
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  Speaker 4: give you good support and happiness. And that's friendships, specifically
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  Speaker 4: female friendships or friendships with other women. And I'm not
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  Speaker 4: excluding anybody of the non-gender binary, any of that. We're
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  Speaker 4: including trans women in this. We're talking about the people
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  Speaker 4: who would see themselves as femme, because I think there's
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  Speaker 4: a specific energy and vibe in that. So when I
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  Speaker 4: say that, I'm meaning all. This is including all. So
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  Speaker 4: go ahead and put that at that very beginning. Of course,
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  Speaker 4: we know there's a lot of TERFs out there. There's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people who have a lot of prejudices.
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  Speaker 4: And they have nice messaging with sometimes really awful hearts.
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  Speaker 4: So I say this because a lot of these things
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  Speaker 4: that we talk about when it comes to friendships and
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  Speaker 4: keeping friendships comes from blogs. And you never know what
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  Speaker 4: these people that wrote these blogs, their real personality is.
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  Speaker 4: I think about that often when I'm thinking about like
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  Speaker 4: feminists first as well or feminists around the world that
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  Speaker 4: we don't know. They may have good intentions in one
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  Speaker 4: of these things, but some of these things are not pretty. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So just as a kind of a... Caveat to all
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  Speaker 2: of this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. But straying away from that to the good part,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's really important that we talk about the
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  Speaker 4: friendships that happen and how important it is to have
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  Speaker 4: friendships and holidays. Of course, I think we can look
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  Speaker 4: at things like Friendsgiving. We have a good thing called
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  Speaker 4: Friendsgivmas in our group because we can blend in both
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  Speaker 4: Christmas and Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because it gets a little difficult trying to get together sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: And so blending that in, but having opportunities to celebrate
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  Speaker 4: the seasons.
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  Speaker 2: Together with just friends or found families, as we like
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  Speaker 2: to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: And if you just listened to a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 4: as this comes out, we had the amazing Raquel Willis
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  Speaker 4: on the show and something she talked about when I
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  Speaker 4: had asked her specifically about finding the balance between transparency
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  Speaker 4: versus activism and then also self-preservation and knowing that you
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  Speaker 4: don't owe people your stories. But like, how do you
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  Speaker 4: keep the balance? And she talked about friendship. And I really,
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  Speaker 4: really loved that point. And it did remind me. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah, like keeping people like you, Annie,
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  Speaker 4: in my life. You just talked about the joy of
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  Speaker 4: wearing your Life Day sweater.
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  Speaker 2: And I love that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I need to use that as an
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  Speaker 4: example and find something like that for myself where I
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  Speaker 4: just find some of the like something that's personal to
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  Speaker 4: me that I can put on physically and be like, ah,
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  Speaker 4: this makes me happy. I will say cardigans. Especially at
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of fall when I get to actually wear it.
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  Speaker 4: I did do a dance. My partner was like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: you're ridiculously happy. And he understands like why for me.
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  Speaker 2: That gives me a little bit of joy.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, stuff like that is like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: things like that are nice. So I had that good moment.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for giving me that. But just the friends
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  Speaker 4: of this time of year is really, really important. In general,
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  Speaker 4: I went through articles about that. femme friendships and why
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  Speaker 4: they're important and here's some of the things research y'all
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  Speaker 4: because it's like years and years and years of research
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  Speaker 4: and i think the last 15 years has been beautiful
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  Speaker 4: where the ties are turned from don't be that i'm
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  Speaker 4: not that type of girl and be a girl's girl
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  Speaker 4: and know what that means and i love them yeah
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  Speaker 4: so one of the things they talk about is emotional
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  Speaker 4: support the benefit of having support from friends when things
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  Speaker 4: are down whether it's like lifting you up because you're
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  Speaker 4: sad about something. And so they try to help you
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  Speaker 4: understand why you're sad or distract you, which both of
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  Speaker 4: those things are beautiful. Validation, having friends who understand and
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  Speaker 4: appreciate you just for you and giving you that confidence. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: and by the way, this was from a blog that
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  Speaker 4: was researched. They also found research for it called The
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  Speaker 4: Power of Female Friendship. And it's from grace.health. So I
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  Speaker 4: don't know much about grace.health. So don't take that as a, Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm advocating for it. It's just they had good research.
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  Speaker 4: So once again, that's about shared experiences. Yeah. I think
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  Speaker 4: especially when you have old, old friendships that you've had
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  Speaker 4: for years and you can look back on things and
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  Speaker 4: laugh to you, cry type of situations, knowing some like
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  Speaker 4: I explained that. something to my partner. I ran into
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  Speaker 4: a friend that I haven't seen in like five years,
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  Speaker 4: literally out of nowhere. And it was really lovely to
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  Speaker 4: see her. And I say this with all like so excitement.
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  Speaker 4: And it literally shocked me to the point I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you don't live here. Like it sounded like an accusation,
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  Speaker 4: but it was more of shock. And that's all I
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  Speaker 4: could say because I was so like confused to see her.
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  Speaker 4: But I just brought back some of the memories I
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  Speaker 4: had of her and who she was and how joyful
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  Speaker 4: it was. And I was explaining to my partner about her.
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  Speaker 4: And it was like, You know, that smile moments of like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that's shared experience because I lived with her as well
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  Speaker 4: for a year. So it was lovely to see her.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought about that. And then, of course, the accountability.
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  Speaker 4: I will tell you, people who keep me accountable are
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  Speaker 4: some of the best. Caroline from the previous shows is
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  Speaker 4: one of the best ones to keep me accountable. But
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  Speaker 4: she does it in such a way that it's so good.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, you're right. I did that
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  Speaker 2: in my bed.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like stuff like that. But it keeps you
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  Speaker 4: as a better person and as a better friend, which
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  Speaker 4: I want to be. And I love everything about that.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, the laughter and joy. We all know that
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  Speaker 4: that's a great benefit. I love listening to Annie talk
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  Speaker 4: about her stuff and then just watching her laugh at herself.
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  Speaker 4: And then I'll make a joke and she'll laugh at it, too.
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  Speaker 4: It is a delightful moment. And then me laughing, watching
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  Speaker 4: her laugh. Or I will say I do laugh when
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  Speaker 4: she cries at shows like Last of Us and I
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  Speaker 4: enjoy every bit of her love for it.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy that you enjoy it.
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  Speaker 4: I literally pulled up the video of you saying, this
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  Speaker 4: is me before the episode of this, the Bill and
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  Speaker 4: Frank episode, and this is you after, and me laughing
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  Speaker 4: in the background. The love you have for that show
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  Speaker 4: is amazing. And it talks about improving your immune function.
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  Speaker 4: And I have a couple of articles that talk about that,
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  Speaker 4: that it actually has higher levels of a particular antibody
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  Speaker 4: that helps to fight off infection. And this one is
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  Speaker 4: from a flashback.com article.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't know who they are either. But it
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  Speaker 2: is written by Kate Lehi, L-E-H-I.
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  Speaker 4: Again, not necessarily... advocating for them or anything. But I
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  Speaker 4: think she did an amazing job with this article. But
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  Speaker 4: she actually wrote, most surprisingly of all, female friendships are
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  Speaker 4: actually good for your physical and mental health. Researchers at
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  Speaker 4: UCLA found that female response to stress can be reduced
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  Speaker 4: after a release of oxytocin, which came when surrounded by
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  Speaker 4: their female friends. In another study, it was found that
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  Speaker 4: valuing friendships influenced better health among adults. And the head
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  Speaker 4: of psychiatry at Stanford University in the U.S. said one
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  Speaker 4: of the best things a woman can do for her
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  Speaker 4: health was to, quote, nurture her relationships with her friends.
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  Speaker 4: And then goes on to say it's noted that women
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  Speaker 4: who are around their female friends see an increase in
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  Speaker 4: release of chemical serotonin, which controls your mood and is
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  Speaker 4: responsible for happiness. And studies have also shown a strong
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  Speaker 4: link between human attachment and good mental health. And I
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  Speaker 4: feel like these are all obvious, but it's also exciting
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  Speaker 4: that they did the research for it, specifically among women
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  Speaker 4: in that level. I will say yesterday was really sad.
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  Speaker 4: If you heard my happy hour a week ago, it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't cute. But like it was a lot of things
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  Speaker 4: that was going through my head and I was kind
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  Speaker 4: of spiraling. And then last night I decided to go to...
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  Speaker 4: work out and I have made really good friends when
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  Speaker 4: I go work out to these places. We just connect
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  Speaker 4: on a very like superficial level, but it's joyous. It
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  Speaker 4: helped my mood so much to be around them, to
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  Speaker 4: do something together, to enjoy the music. The teacher there, DeMarco,
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  Speaker 4: he's an amazing guy. But just connecting with friends again.
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  Speaker 4: And the women that we get to hype each other.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of the best things. Hyping one another up,
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  Speaker 4: I think, is a whole different level. Especially being on
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  Speaker 4: a superficial level, just enjoying their personality.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice.
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  Speaker 4: And I definitely see that kind of level of like
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  Speaker 4: serotonin rising and feeling being able to like calmly sit
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  Speaker 4: instead of watching the world burn. And then I was
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  Speaker 4: thinking about this again, specifically with the holidays. We were
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  Speaker 4: very stressed. I was very I am very stressed with this.
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  Speaker 4: And I was thinking about the people who have lost families.
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  Speaker 4: I talk about not having a connection, and that does
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  Speaker 4: feel like a loss to me, but truly losing, grieving
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  Speaker 4: over families who have died, passed on, who you have
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  Speaker 4: cut off all connection with, and how that really is
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  Speaker 4: a painful, these holidays are a painful, painful time, especially
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  Speaker 4: if you feel alone. And there was an article written
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  Speaker 4: by Rebecca Brenner for The Times, and it's titled, The
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  Speaker 4: Revolutionary Power of Female Friendships During the Holidays. And she
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  Speaker 4: specifically talks about the loss of her mother. And she
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  Speaker 4: also talks about the fact that she doesn't do the
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  Speaker 4: depth of what her mother did.
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  Speaker 2: And she never will. And I appreciated that.
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  Speaker 4: Because, yeah, no way in hell I would do what
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  Speaker 4: my mother loves to do and also stresses out about.
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  Speaker 2: Which ends up with her calling my father a sh * *.
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  Speaker 2: Also part of our family tradition. Uh-huh. One of my
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  Speaker 2: favorite moments.
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  Speaker 4: But she genuinely is mad at my father for being
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  Speaker 4: neglectful and not helping.
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  Speaker 2: Out as much as he should. But I think it's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: She talks about it and she says, this holiday season,
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  Speaker 4: I won't cook her elaborate holiday dinners. I won't go
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  Speaker 4: to midnight mass or track my two young kids across
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  Speaker 4: the country for large extended family gatherings. But I will
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  Speaker 4: step closer to the memory of her because of the
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  Speaker 4: love and the support of the women in my life.
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  Speaker 4: I really thought that was a beautiful story. Like, yes,
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  Speaker 4: she lost a mother, and she might not do exactly
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  Speaker 4: what she did. And there feels like a little lost
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  Speaker 4: in that. But she knows where she can find that
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  Speaker 4: same love and level of love and care and support
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  Speaker 4: through the women in her life. She also talked about
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  Speaker 4: the 2010 study, which was written by Ana M. Martinez-Almond.
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  Speaker 4: entitled College Women's Female Friendships, A Longitudinal View. And she writes,
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  Speaker 4: found that female friendships are, quote, a site for assessing
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  Speaker 4: meaning of self and of reality, a site for the
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  Speaker 4: experience of different perspective and viewpoints, and an opportunity for
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  Speaker 4: growth through interdependency. And in a more recent 2020 study
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  Speaker 4: in feminism and psychology, found that female friendships are, quote,
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  Speaker 4: a site of ease, escape, and refuge. And I think
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  Speaker 4: it's so perfect, especially as we talk during the holidays
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  Speaker 4: as a stress, feeling a little bit of loss, feeling
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of non-direction, I guess, not sure what
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  Speaker 4: to do half the time. There's a lot going on.
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  Speaker 4: And seeing articles like this and reminding yourself, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: friendships are important. And it can be hard to maintain
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  Speaker 4: as adults with different stretches of life. But it is
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  Speaker 4: important to try to try to maintain them. And she
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  Speaker 4: goes on, Brenner goes on, writes, and perhaps this is
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  Speaker 4: the best gift we can offer one another, our presence
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  Speaker 4: and kind words in a culture and season that can
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  Speaker 4: feel so transactional, being shaped and nurtured by your people's
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  Speaker 4: compassionate attention feels revolutionary.
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  Speaker 2: And it does. And it does. And Annie, I want
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  Speaker 2: to thank you because you're one of those revolutionary people
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  Speaker 2: for me. I love you.
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  Speaker 1: And you are for me. I love you too. The
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  Speaker 1: other day I was.
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  Speaker 3: Like smiling to myself, remembering, because I told the story
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  Speaker 3: recently of our disastrous lazy river.
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  Speaker 5: But it's just like having those memories where we were
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  Speaker 5: literally being laughed at by the hotel staff and an
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  Speaker 5: old man in.
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  Speaker 1: A tube and a young kid in a tube.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: But we shared it together.
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  Speaker 4: We did.
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  Speaker 1: And it was so funny. It was so funny.
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  Speaker 2: It was because both of us were in the same boat.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Realizing both of us were bad at this.
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  Speaker 1: We're bad at relaxing, which is perhaps clear with this episode.
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  Speaker 4: No, everybody else was confused. And they're like, but we
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  Speaker 4: love it. I'm like, I'm glad you weren't a part
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  Speaker 4: of this because that would have stressed me out more.
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  Speaker 1: And then we did it twice because we got stuck
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  Speaker 1: in the loop.
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  Speaker 2: We couldn't get out.
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  Speaker 4: The first time wasn't good, but we couldn't get out,
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  Speaker 4: so we just sacrificed it.
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  Speaker 1: We did. Oh, man, it was funny, though.
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  Speaker 2: What a haunting.
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  Speaker 3: But it's things like that, having those memories, sharing those times.
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  Speaker 3: Even if it's maybe not necessarily your thing, like with
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  Speaker 3: Life Day, my friends, But like having that and like
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  Speaker 3: having those stories, it does feel like such a boost
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  Speaker 3: and such a light.
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  Speaker 1: And so precious, like so important.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I can totally see the kind of healing
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  Speaker 3: nature of it. We've talked about it before in other
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  Speaker 3: episodes too. So yeah, I am so lucky to have
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  Speaker 3: the friends I have and That they're willing to be
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  Speaker 3: goofy with me and I can be goofy with them.
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  Speaker 4: And just to the Sminty fam, if you do feel alone,
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  Speaker 4: I hope you hear this episode and know that we
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  Speaker 4: do hear you when you.
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  Speaker 2: Write to us, when you let us know what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: I know we got a lot of messages on Instagram
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  Speaker 4: specific to a lot of Annie's loves.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't respond to those.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I showed it to her though. I love y'all. I
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  Speaker 2: will respond.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, we do see them. We do hear them.
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  Speaker 4: Those who send out support to us, that's the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: There's a healing to that as well. When you hear
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  Speaker 4: our own struggles or vulnerability, and then you come in
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  Speaker 4: and just talk about your own and like validate what
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  Speaker 4: we're saying.
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  Speaker 2: It's lovely. So we thank you.
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  Speaker 3: We do thank you. It really means so much. So
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  Speaker 3: And I hope sometimes I worry that it sounds like,
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  Speaker 3: because when you get like one bad message, and I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I worry that we make it sound like
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  Speaker 3: we're not talking to the people who are listening. I'm
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  Speaker 3: pretty sure the people who send those like saw a
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  Speaker 3: title and will send it. You are all lovely is
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. No, we get like one.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: The review is the same way for me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, they all hate me. No, everyone is so kind.
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  Speaker 3: And I do love another thing I love about things
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  Speaker 3: like like what you were talking about Friends Give Smith.
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  Speaker 3: I love like the traditions people make because I have
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  Speaker 3: the cheese giving.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My friends and I used to do a gift exchange
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  Speaker 3: where you couldn't spend any money on it. So you
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  Speaker 3: would get the most ridiculous things. And I loved it.
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  Speaker 3: I've told this story before, but one of my favorite
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  Speaker 3: things was for the show, Katie. It was a big
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  Speaker 3: bird ornament, but the legs were broken off.
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  Speaker 1: And I adore it. It's like one of my favorite ornaments.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's so weird and funny.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: And every time I see it, I think about that.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, where did you get this?
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: She stepped on it and was like, oh.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I'll give it to Annie.
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  Speaker 4: My imagination that goes into, there are ornaments that you
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: can't touch.
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  Speaker 2: On my mother's tree. And if you break it, like,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: oh no.
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  Speaker 4: In my head, I was like, yeah, I would have
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: taken that and just given it away and be like, no,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: don't ask.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: This is the way of my hiding it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Could be.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I've never gotten the full story out of her. Maybe
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe this year.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: But yes, we would love to hear listeners about your
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: thoughts about this. If you have any traditions with your friends.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's also... Oh man, I meant to talk about this.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Over on Saver, we did an interview with somebody who
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: used to work at the Butterball Hotline, not a sponsor.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And one of my favorite stories she told was about
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: getting a call from a group of women in college
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: who were, like, trying to cook a turkey in a
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: crockpot and had shorted the power.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Like, that is the fun memories you make.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I love it. Anyway, if you have stories like that.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, please. We need them.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Please, we need them.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: We'd love to have a collection we could share for
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: a holiday episode.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Please send us your stories.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, please. That would be great.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: You can email us at stuffmediamomstuff at iheartmedia.com. You can
• 19:05
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• 19:08
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• 19:11
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• 19:13
  Speaker 3: get wherever you get your books and an audio book
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: because some people have been asking.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Me about that.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Yes. Yes.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: And we did narrate it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Thanks as always to our super producer, Christina, our executive producer, Maya,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: and our contributor, Joey.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I think we need a tradition. What do y'all think? Christina,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: what do you think?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Ooh. And thanks to you for listening. Stuff I Never
• 19:37
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• 19:39
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• 19:42
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