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- 0:09Richard Piet: I'm Richard Piet.
- 0:10Richard Piet: Welcome back to PEST PROSpectives.
- 0:12Richard Piet: It's our perspective from the pros.
- 0:15Richard Piet: That's the point as we bring you these discussions from Pest Pros of Michigan trying to help eliminate pests in your environment.
- 0:27Richard Piet: In fact, today Amber Byers is back with us to talk about five ways to create a pest-free environment.
- 0:36Richard Piet: Hi, Amber.
- 0:38Amber Byars: Hey Richard, how are you?
- 0:39Richard Piet: Good, this is your zone, this is your expertise and in a way, this is kind of a zoomed out.
- 0:47Richard Piet: Look at how we do this.
- 0:50Richard Piet: We've talked several times now about specific pests.
- 0:55Richard Piet: In this case, we're really sort of zooming out.
- 0:58Richard Piet: So, when Amber goes to a party and tells people what she does, these are some of the things they want to know.
- 1:03Richard Piet: Wait a minute, how do I keep pests out?
- 1:06Richard Piet: We're going to give you five ways right now that you can do that.
- 1:10Richard Piet: What's number one on this list?
- 1:14Amber Byars: Well, we're going to start with mechanical control, with trying to mitigate or eliminate some of those entry points that pests are going to utilize to gain entry to the home.
- 1:23Richard Piet: Yeah, yeah, boy, sometimes we don't know these things are there, do we?
- 1:29Amber Byars: We do not know, or that's not the first thing clients think of.
- 1:32Amber Byars: They're just like what do you got to spray?
- 1:34Amber Byars: You know, what do you got to put around here to get rid of these guys?
- 1:38Amber Byars: But sometimes that's not the answer.
- 1:40Amber Byars: But we know that, especially here at Pest Pros, we utilize the integrated pest management methods, which are multiple different tools and tactics that play into coming to a solution, and exclusion is a huge part of that.
- 1:54Richard Piet: Yeah, and that word is descriptive.
- 1:56Richard Piet: We want to exclude the ability for pests to enter.
- 2:01Richard Piet: That's really what we're talking about.
- 2:03Amber Byars: Exactly, yeah, what are?
- 2:04Richard Piet: you looking for with that?
- 2:05Richard Piet: I guess it depends on what type of pest we're talking about Exactly.
- 2:06Richard Piet: Yeah, what are you looking for with that?
- 2:07Amber Byars: I guess it depends on what type of pest we're dealing with.
- 2:09Amber Byars: So if we're focusing on, let's say, a rodent or a mouse, we have to try to figure out where they're using to get in if it's foundation level, if it's roof level.
- 2:18Amber Byars: So we start by looking at the structure.
- 2:20Amber Byars: What's the exterior siding?
- 2:22Amber Byars: Are there any trees touching?
- 2:26Amber Byars: Are there any other bridges to the home that they could be utilizing?
- 2:28Amber Byars: So with a mouse, we know they only take a very small entry point about the size of your pinky or smaller if it's a smaller mouse to get in.
- 2:36Amber Byars: So we're looking for any area that big to seal off.
- 2:42Amber Byars: We're looking at siding corners.
- 2:43Amber Byars: We're looking at utility lines.
- 2:45Amber Byars: We're looking at foundation to siding gaps.
- 2:47Amber Byars: Clients aren't thinking about that.
- 2:50Amber Byars: They don't go around on their hands and knees looking at the foundation of their home.
- 2:54Amber Byars: That's what we're there to do.
- 2:56Richard Piet: And if it's the size of a pinky, we might look right at the entry point and say, nah, that's too small.
- 3:03Amber Byars: Yeah, exactly.
- 3:04Amber Byars: But then comparatively, if we're talking about something like a stink bug, then we know we're looking roof level, like gable vents or ridge vents, chimneys, window frames, door frames, and that doesn't matter what kind of siding or structural components.
- 3:21Amber Byars: That's the areas those bugs are going to go into the house.
- 3:24Richard Piet: All right, so you get it.
- 3:25Richard Piet: This is the situation.
- 3:27Richard Piet: A prospective on exactly what is happening on your property is important because, as Amber has just illustrated, she knows what to look for depending on what the pest is.
- 3:40Richard Piet: But the point is, exclusion is important.
- 3:43Richard Piet: Next step in one of the ways to create a pest-free environment, it's food and not having it.
- 3:51Amber Byars: Yeah, Food source, water source.
- 3:53Amber Byars: Whatever the case is, that can look a lot different depending on pest as well.
- 3:57Amber Byars: So with something like a German cockroach, they can eat whatever they want.
- 4:03Amber Byars: They'll eat glue off of a book or cardboard boxes or organic material, but they will not survive without water.
- 4:12Amber Byars: So if we can eliminate the water source or barriers up around the water sources, we'll eliminate the cockroaches.
- 4:19Amber Byars: With something like a spring tail, which we're dealing with crazy right now a lot of our clients, with all of the rain and either the rain or really high heat springtails are invading homes like crazy.
- 4:30Amber Byars: So they will not invade a home unless there is a moisture issue, because they will not thrive without organic growth, fungi, mold, algae.
- 4:41Amber Byars: Something has to be in that home for them to feed on, for them to be able to thrive indoors.
- 4:46Amber Byars: So we eliminate that.
- 4:48Amber Byars: We eliminate the springtails.
- 4:51Richard Piet: There you are again, so specific examples of a pest that then you go into your data bank and say, okay, here's what they want, here's what we should look for.
- 5:02Richard Piet: That's probably why they're here.
- 5:04Richard Piet: Reducing those things reduces them.
- 5:09Amber Byars: The important thing to know about that, when you're talking to a client, is just the simple fact of educating them, because what we don't want their perception to be is that our treatments are failing.
- 5:21Amber Byars: There are no amount of pesticides that will ever eliminate a certain species of pest.
- 5:28Amber Byars: Without eliminating conducive conditions, without eliminating the food source, without excluding them, no amount of product will ever be the cure-all.
- 5:38Amber Byars: So that's the bigger picture.
- 5:40Amber Byars: There is trying to inform people of that, because the first thing we hear is hey, you guys aren't doing your job, which isn't true.
- 5:48Richard Piet: Yeah well, it's a multi-layered approach, as you pointed out when we started here.
- 5:52Richard Piet: So what was that comment?
- 5:54Richard Piet: You may just come and spray something.
- 5:56Richard Piet: It's more than that.
- 5:58Amber Byars: Exactly.
- 5:59Richard Piet: And these are all examples of it.
- 6:00Richard Piet: Another one and I venture to say we've talked about this in other episodes because it keeps coming back the idea of not providing access points that might be your landscaping.
- 6:14Amber Byars: Yes, overgrown vegetation, and it might not even be vegetation but something like a mulch bed.
- 6:21Amber Byars: It could be something just like a normal tree that is overhanging onto the roof.
- 6:25Amber Byars: We have to manage those types of conditions because that is a literal bridge from a part of the earth to your structure.
- 6:34Amber Byars: You don't want that, whether that's for carpenter ants, whether that's for a squirrel.
- 6:39Amber Byars: You don't want an easier access point than you would, you know, necessarily want to have.
- 6:45Amber Byars: So we look at all of those things on site.
- 6:48Amber Byars: We look at if there's brush touching the structure, overgrown like invasive vines that come right up to the home and then trail up the siding.
- 6:57Amber Byars: That is a jungle gym for a lot of rodents.
- 7:00Amber Byars: They love to climb, you know.
- 7:02Richard Piet: It's a playground.
- 7:03Richard Piet: They like that.
- 7:04Amber Byars: Yeah, so we want to talk to people about let's trim that back, and not just for rodents but for things like moisture pests.
- 7:12Amber Byars: If there's something directly in contact with the house.
- 7:14Amber Byars: We always recommend putting a barrier up between the foundation and at least four or five feet out, with something like dried pebble obviously, like a landscape fabric underneath, to put that barrier between the soil and the stone underneath, to put that barrier between the soil and the stone.
- 7:32Amber Byars: It just is all a reduction process of reducing the amount of pests that are in the environment.
- 7:35Richard Piet: Well, you made a good point about describing that overgrowth as a bridge, because it's very similar to the point of the exclusion point we were talking about before.
- 7:45Richard Piet: So we're eliminating the entrance points.
- 7:48Richard Piet: We also want to take the bridge down.
- 7:51Amber Byars: Yeah, because that will relieve some pressure.
- 7:53Amber Byars: With all that touching of the structure, the pressure is higher yeah.
- 7:58Richard Piet: Okay Now the next thing in our list of five ways to create a pest free environment is to keep an eye on all of this stuff.
- 8:07Richard Piet: It's not like you can trim that stuff back and then you're good for the rest of the time you live there.
- 8:13Richard Piet: These things will grow again.
- 8:15Richard Piet: But an overall inspection, right?
- 8:18Amber Byars: Yeah, yeah, monitor and inspect regularly are very important.
- 8:23Amber Byars: That is also a part of the integrated pest management cycle is to follow up and, you know, re-inspect, make sure the program is working, whether that's by hiring a pest control company to do that for you or you having the self-discipline to do that yourself, because what you don't want to happen is for you to do all this work up front get the pests under control, eliminate the pests, possibly, and then forget about it, and that is in relevance to a lot of things in our daily lives.
- 8:51Amber Byars: Anyways, right.
- 8:53Richard Piet: That's probably true.
- 8:54Richard Piet: Some problems don't go away without upkeep.
- 8:58Amber Byars: Yes, that's what you're talking about.
- 9:00Amber Byars: Exactly.
- 9:01Richard Piet: Now do you end up I imagine you do teaching homeowners and residents how to walk around their property and spot things?
- 9:11Richard Piet: Is that fair to do?
- 9:14Amber Byars: We absolutely love to educate our clients anytime we have the chance.
- 9:18Amber Byars: It's just a part of who we are.
- 9:20Amber Byars: We will share information, especially if we have a lot of clients that are DIY people, and we're not against that.
- 9:30Amber Byars: All we can do is just educate them.
- 9:33Amber Byars: If that's going to be the path they choose, they might as well do it in the right way.
- 9:37Amber Byars: You know what I mean.
- 9:39Amber Byars: So we have some clients that, oh, I just want you to do the recurring maintenance, but I want to seal the house.
- 9:44Amber Byars: Okay, well, let me give you a couple of pointers here.
- 9:48Amber Byars: Use this product versus this product, because?
- 9:49Amber Byars: But I want to seal the house.
- 9:50Amber Byars: Okay, well, let me give you a couple of pointers here.
- 9:51Amber Byars: Use this product versus this product, because it will last a lot longer.
- 9:55Richard Piet: So, yeah, we love to educate our clients and, speaking of products we did talk about, you know, it's not just about spraying.
- 10:00Richard Piet: However, this is one of the five ways to create a pest-free environment.
- 10:05Richard Piet: There's going to be an incorporating of appropriate products that will help right.
- 10:12Amber Byars: Oh yeah, you nailed it.
- 10:13Amber Byars: There is a place for pesticides or insecticides in this cycle.
- 10:17Amber Byars: Absolutely, what we try to steer clear from is that being the only thing we're doing right, because we know that alone will not solve a pest issue.
- 10:26Amber Byars: So, yes, we know that alone will not solve the pest issue.
- 10:29Amber Byars: So, yes, insecticides definitely play a part in this.
- 10:31Amber Byars: You just have to understand the mode of action and the active ingredient and how that affects whatever it is you're trying to control so that you can be successful.
- 10:40Amber Byars: We know, as professionals, that there are certain species that need a certain product to be able to control them, and that is what we train our staff to look for.
- 10:52Amber Byars: That is what we move forward with in any of our services.
- 10:55Richard Piet: What is the?
- 10:56Amber Byars: best plan of action for this specific issue.
- 10:59Amber Byars: It's different at every house.
- 11:02Richard Piet: Oh, think about that.
- 11:03Richard Piet: It's different at every house.
- 11:04Richard Piet: So the pest prospective is to evaluate each individual situation and come up with this action plan of sorts that probably includes these five things to create a pest-free environment, or maybe one of them is somehow different, probably the products thing, but that depends.
- 11:26Richard Piet: So having this viewpoint is important.
- 11:30Amber Byars: Absolutely Cause there's so many oh my gosh, there's so many factors that play into these decisions.
- 11:34Amber Byars: What's the weather like?
- 11:36Amber Byars: You know?
- 11:37Amber Byars: What's the structure made of?
- 11:39Amber Byars: What's the environment look like?
- 11:40Amber Byars: How much vegetation is there mulch?
- 11:42Amber Byars: Is it rock?
- 11:43Amber Byars: Is there a lot of cement?
- 11:44Amber Byars: You know what's the pest they're dealing with.
- 11:46Amber Byars: All of that will come to the decision of okay, this is the best pesticide to use and this is where I'm going to apply it.
- 11:55Richard Piet: All right.
- 11:55Richard Piet: So what is the situation at your property?
- 11:58Richard Piet: You certainly can reach out to the Pest Pros of Michigan and have them evaluate the situation and give you a report, and very likely these five things will be part of the integrated pest management approach that Pest Pros will take.
- 12:15Richard Piet: Amber Byers is one of those Pest Pros.
- 12:18Richard Piet: In fact, she surveys all of the outreach that goes on at Pest Pros of Michigan, and so she is one of the pest pros Happy to help Click through and find out more from their website and also subscribe to this podcast, where you get them, because there are plenty of pest perspectives to share.
- 12:39Richard Piet: Thank you, Amber.
- 12:40Amber Byars: Thank you so much.